Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 22:31, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> James Sparenberg schrieb am Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:21:38 -0700:
> 
> > On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 20:23, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> > > Fmmmfpfmffmpmpmppffp mmmpppmpm Mpffmfmmfpmp Opfmpfmpf!
> > 
> > I think I've seen that one.  It was in the early win98 disks for
> > Hangul(korean)Win98 the "help" files where in a mixture of English
> > Korean and Gibberish. 
> 
> You can read such in every manual sheet of those cheap electric
> household devices you buy at Woolworth or Walmart in Germany. As German
> consumer laws demand that every product which needs a manual has to have
> this manual in German language, those people in Korea or Taiwan or China
> just let Babelfish do the translation. You can imagine what that looks
> like.
> 
> Every stand-up comedian knows at least a couple of lines from those
> manuals. 
> 
> wobo

Like the infamous "These Knives sharp, please keep out of children."

James

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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
James Sparenberg schrieb am Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:21:38 -0700:

> On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 20:23, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> > Fmmmfpfmffmpmpmppffp mmmpppmpm Mpffmfmmfpmp Opfmpfmpf!
> 
> I think I've seen that one.  It was in the early win98 disks for
> Hangul(korean)Win98 the "help" files where in a mixture of English
> Korean and Gibberish. 

You can read such in every manual sheet of those cheap electric
household devices you buy at Woolworth or Walmart in Germany. As German
consumer laws demand that every product which needs a manual has to have
this manual in German language, those people in Korea or Taiwan or China
just let Babelfish do the translation. You can imagine what that looks
like.

Every stand-up comedian knows at least a couple of lines from those
manuals. 

wobo

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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 20:23, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> James Sparenberg schrieb am Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:51:28 -0700:
> 
> > Can you imagine a blue screen of death in the SouthPark edition *grin*
> 
> Or a help text from Kenny?
> Fmmmfpfmffmpmpmppffp mmmpppmpm Mpffmfmmfpmp Opfmpfmpf!

I think I've seen that one.  It was in the early win98 disks for
Hangul(korean)Win98 the "help" files where in a mixture of English
Korean and Gibberish. 

James

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> wobo
> 
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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 20:16, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> James Sparenberg schrieb am Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:50:17 -0700:
> 
> >  A study in Korea a few years back found that as a group Baby
> >  Boomers (the post WWII born) tend to be the most confounded by 
> >  technology. 
> 
> Hmm, that counts me in (born 1946). So that's why I never curse at my
> computer. It's sheer fear of what it could do to me in my sleep!
> 
> wobo

Well ya got me by 10, but if you think about it.  How many of your
friends can't figure out how to open a file or program that isn't
iconized on their desktop?  However my Mom (68) is a Unix (Qnix) user. 
*grin*

James

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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
James Sparenberg schrieb am Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:51:28 -0700:

> Can you imagine a blue screen of death in the SouthPark edition *grin*

Or a help text from Kenny?
Fmmmfpfmffmpmpmppffp mmmpppmpm Mpffmfmmfpmp Opfmpfmpf!

wobo

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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
James Sparenberg schrieb am Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:50:17 -0700:

>  A study in Korea a few years back found that as a group Baby
>  Boomers (the post WWII born) tend to be the most confounded by 
>  technology. 

Hmm, that counts me in (born 1946). So that's why I never curse at my
computer. It's sheer fear of what it could do to me in my sleep!

wobo

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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 06:31, Brian Parish wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 22:25, ed tharp wrote:
> > > 
> > > BTW: We'll have to face a whole lot of little girls swarming all over
> > > Linux at the end of this year:
> > > http://qrxx.4t.com/barbieOS.htm
> > > 
> > > wobo
> > is that for real? the barbie stuff?
> > 
> Absolutely!  In fact there is also a companion South Park version in
> which fsck is spelled correctly. ;-)

Can you imagine a blue screen of death in the SouthPark edition *grin*




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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 06:25, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> Glen Kjærulff schrieb am Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:37:55 +0200:
> 
> > no its a joke, read it again.
> 
> [quote]
> "Most girls up through adult women become frightened and confused, often
> hysterical when presented with a traditional command prompt," Cesterino
> explained.
> [unquote]
> 
> Where is the joke in that? Sounds pretty realistic as far as my
> experiences with middle-aged female workerbees in office environments
> go.
> 
> And as far as I know Mattel (I know the German branch near Frankfurt,
> Germany) and the attitude of the company this BarbieOS sounds really
> realistic as well.
> 
> wobo


Wobo,

   A study in Korea a few years back found that as a group Baby Boomers
(the post WWII born) tend to be the most confounded by technology.  The
childeren of Baby Boomers and the parents of Baby Boomers are the most
proficient because they aren't afraid of doing something wrong.  They
know that in the end a re-install or a reset will fix everything. 
Nothing really breaks. 

James



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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 05:10, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> ed tharp schrieb am 12 Oct 2003 07:50:17 -0400:
> 
> > > I gave him 3 points as a first aid:
> > > 
> > > 1. Try a text installation
> > > 2. Monitor the tty2 and tty4 logs for further error messages
> > > 3. Maybe the CDs I burned on my machine don't work 100% on his CD
> > > drive.
> > > 
> > > Any other suggestions?
> > > 
> > > wobo
> > > 
> > imho, all three of your answers are dead on. 
> > I bet his cd reader is over 3 years old, well used. 
> 
> He just phoned me and told me that he tried again this morning and
> everything worked well without errors. He even sent his first mail from
> Linux (Evolution, HTML formatted!).

Proves he knows how to read config files... now teach him why it
shouldn't be html *grin*
> 
> Maybe a hickup of the cd drive? :)


> 
> Anyhow, Linux is spreading!
> 
> BTW: We'll have to face a whole lot of little girls swarming all over
> Linux at the end of this year:
> http://qrxx.4t.com/barbieOS.htm

No problem.  The more the merrier. 
> 
> wobo
> 
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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread Eric Huff
> > is that for real? the barbie stuff?

> Absolutely!  In fact there is also a companion South Park version
> in which fsck is spelled correctly. ;-)

LOL!

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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread Olaf Marzocchi
At 15.25 12/10/2003, you wrote:

Where is the joke in that? Sounds pretty realistic as far as my
experiences with middle-aged female workerbees in office environments
go.
And as far as I know Mattel (I know the German branch near Frankfurt,
Germany) and the attitude of the company this BarbieOS sounds really
realistic as well.
A friend of mine told me that it's a fake, he heard it on IRC.
Do you think that a similar device would need DISK PARTITIONING???
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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread Brian Parish
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 22:25, ed tharp wrote:
> > 
> > BTW: We'll have to face a whole lot of little girls swarming all over
> > Linux at the end of this year:
> > http://qrxx.4t.com/barbieOS.htm
> > 
> > wobo
> is that for real? the barbie stuff?
> 
Absolutely!  In fact there is also a companion South Park version in
which fsck is spelled correctly. ;-)


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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
Glen Kjærulff schrieb am Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:37:55 +0200:

> no its a joke, read it again.

[quote]
"Most girls up through adult women become frightened and confused, often
hysterical when presented with a traditional command prompt," Cesterino
explained.
[unquote]

Where is the joke in that? Sounds pretty realistic as far as my
experiences with middle-aged female workerbees in office environments
go.

And as far as I know Mattel (I know the German branch near Frankfurt,
Germany) and the attitude of the company this BarbieOS sounds really
realistic as well.

wobo

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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread Glen Kjærulff
>  
> > BTW: We'll have to face a whole lot of little girls swarming all over
> > Linux at the end of this year:
> > http://qrxx.4t.com/barbieOS.htm
> > 
> > wobo
> is that for real? the barbie stuff?
> 

no its a joke, read it again.

/Glen
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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread ed tharp
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 08:10, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> ed tharp schrieb am 12 Oct 2003 07:50:17 -0400:
> 
> > > I gave him 3 points as a first aid:
> > > 
> > > 1. Try a text installation
> > > 2. Monitor the tty2 and tty4 logs for further error messages
> > > 3. Maybe the CDs I burned on my machine don't work 100% on his CD
> > > drive.
> > > 
> > > Any other suggestions?
> > > 
> > > wobo
> > > 
> > imho, all three of your answers are dead on. 
> > I bet his cd reader is over 3 years old, well used. 
> 
> He just phoned me and told me that he tried again this morning and
> everything worked well without errors. He even sent his first mail from
> Linux (Evolution, HTML formatted!).
> 
> Maybe a hickup of the cd drive? :)
> 
> Anyhow, Linux is spreading!
> 
> BTW: We'll have to face a whole lot of little girls swarming all over
> Linux at the end of this year:
> http://qrxx.4t.com/barbieOS.htm
> 
> wobo
is that for real? the barbie stuff?


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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
ed tharp schrieb am 12 Oct 2003 07:50:17 -0400:

> > I gave him 3 points as a first aid:
> > 
> > 1. Try a text installation
> > 2. Monitor the tty2 and tty4 logs for further error messages
> > 3. Maybe the CDs I burned on my machine don't work 100% on his CD
> > drive.
> > 
> > Any other suggestions?
> > 
> > wobo
> > 
> imho, all three of your answers are dead on. 
> I bet his cd reader is over 3 years old, well used. 

He just phoned me and told me that he tried again this morning and
everything worked well without errors. He even sent his first mail from
Linux (Evolution, HTML formatted!).

Maybe a hickup of the cd drive? :)

Anyhow, Linux is spreading!

BTW: We'll have to face a whole lot of little girls swarming all over
Linux at the end of this year:
http://qrxx.4t.com/barbieOS.htm

wobo

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Re: [expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-12 Thread ed tharp
On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 01:15, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Yesterday I presented Mandrake Linux to some guys and gave them a copy
> of the RC2 CDs from which I installed on 2 machines without problems. So
> the ISOs are correct.
> 
> One of them started right away as soon as he came home and mailed:
> 
> During 'System installation' an error occurred:
> ---
> /mnt/tmp/drakx-images/pubbeta-CLUB.png.small.png: Image file
> '/mnt/tmp/drakx-images/pubbeta-CLUB.png.small.png' contains no data.
> ---
> 
> I don't know his machine or any other information.
> 
> I gave him 3 points as a first aid:
> 
> 1. Try a text installation
> 2. Monitor the tty2 and tty4 logs for further error messages
> 3. Maybe the CDs I burned on my machine don't work 100% on his CD drive.
> 
> Any other suggestions?
> 
> wobo
> 
imho, all three of your answers are dead on. 
I bet his cd reader is over 3 years old, well used. 





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[expert] Error during installation (RC2)

2003-10-11 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
Hi,

Yesterday I presented Mandrake Linux to some guys and gave them a copy
of the RC2 CDs from which I installed on 2 machines without problems. So
the ISOs are correct.

One of them started right away as soon as he came home and mailed:

During 'System installation' an error occurred:
---
/mnt/tmp/drakx-images/pubbeta-CLUB.png.small.png: Image file
'/mnt/tmp/drakx-images/pubbeta-CLUB.png.small.png' contains no data.
---

I don't know his machine or any other information.

I gave him 3 points as a first aid:

1. Try a text installation
2. Monitor the tty2 and tty4 logs for further error messages
3. Maybe the CDs I burned on my machine don't work 100% on his CD drive.

Any other suggestions?

wobo

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