Re: [expert] Gramofile and Splitting Tracks

2003-10-18 Thread dfox
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I have had the same prob before, some tapes have a bad sig/noise ratio
or use shorter gaps between songs (or as in the old Chicago soundtrack I
did recently, some songs had no gaps at all).

Hmm. I haven't tried this with cassettes but if i remember, some tapes had 
a signal embedded in them - and i had a tape player years ago that had 
some kind of music skip feature in that it would seek to the next track. 
I hardly listen to anything other than cd's nowadays, though. But it 
brings up a thread on svlug i saw recently where people were discussing 
related things. Anyway, sox may be of use if you have the cassette .wav 
file -- there's apparently a 'silence' option that uses a threshold value 
and silences anything below that value. you might then have better luck 
in splitting the tracks.

Anyway, it was years since i had a box that would do that music search 
thing, and it seemed to work well only on commercially-produced tapes.


My answer was to split the tracks manually, and I feathered the sound at
the end of each track down to 0 to make it sound better.. it worked

IMHO it's better to do it in audacity since you can visualize the parts 
that are the gaps between the songs. I was planning on splitting up one 
big mp3 of a full album i had, but then later saw that soneone had posted 
the same album on usenet, with the songs split :).

Franki

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Re: [expert] Gramofile and Splitting Tracks

2003-10-05 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 05 October 2003 12:26 am, Rob Blomquist wrote:
 OK, I made it through ripping my first tape, and I was really impressed
 with how it sounds, but I was really unimpressed with how it split the
 tracks. On Lou Reed 'New York' out of 14 tracks, it only found 4 and I used
 Audacity to split the others.

 Has any one fiddled around with splitting tracks, and correcting the
 default setup to do a better job? I will dive into it myself if no one has,
 but I would hate to figure it out myself, only to find someone beat me to
 it.

 Rob

Hmm, don't know about that. I used gramofile to record 3 full cassettes:

Warlock
Warrior
Da'nang

and it found and split the songs on all 3. I'm sure you did, but I'll ask 
anyways - did you follow the correct sequence/steps?

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Re: [expert] Gramofile and Splitting Tracks

2003-10-05 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 05 Oct 2003 5:26 am, Rob Blomquist wrote:
 OK, I made it through ripping my first tape, and I was really
 impressed with how it sounds, but I was really unimpressed with how
 it split the tracks. On Lou Reed 'New York' out of 14 tracks, it
 only found 4 and I used Audacity to split the others.

Rob - I don't know this particular music, but a common problem is 
applause between tracks.  Could that be it?

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Re: [expert] Gramofile and Splitting Tracks

2003-10-05 Thread Franki
Ronald J. Hall wrote:

On Sunday 05 October 2003 12:26 am, Rob Blomquist wrote:
 

OK, I made it through ripping my first tape, and I was really impressed
with how it sounds, but I was really unimpressed with how it split the
tracks. On Lou Reed 'New York' out of 14 tracks, it only found 4 and I used
Audacity to split the others.
Has any one fiddled around with splitting tracks, and correcting the
default setup to do a better job? I will dive into it myself if no one has,
but I would hate to figure it out myself, only to find someone beat me to
it.
Rob
   

Hmm, don't know about that. I used gramofile to record 3 full cassettes:

Warlock
Warrior
Da'nang
and it found and split the songs on all 3. I'm sure you did, but I'll ask 
anyways - did you follow the correct sequence/steps?

 

I have had the same prob before, some tapes have a bad sig/noise ratio 
or use shorter gaps between songs (or as in the old Chicago soundtrack I 
did recently, some songs had no gaps at all).

My answer was to split the tracks manually, and I feathered the sound at 
the end of each track down to 0 to make it sound better.. it worked 
great. but no software can find the endpoint of all songs if the 
original has non standard gaps or the sig level is such that the app 
can't tell where the song stops, you don't have much choice but to do it 
manually.

rgds

Franki



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[expert] Gramofile and Splitting Tracks

2003-10-04 Thread Rob Blomquist
OK, I made it through ripping my first tape, and I was really impressed with 
how it sounds, but I was really unimpressed with how it split the tracks. On 
Lou Reed 'New York' out of 14 tracks, it only found 4 and I used Audacity to 
split the others.

Has any one fiddled around with splitting tracks, and correcting the default 
setup to do a better job? I will dive into it myself if no one has, but I 
would hate to figure it out myself, only to find someone beat me to it.

Rob


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