RE: [expert] How to install EVERYTHING on LM 8.0?
There are other dangers with installing everything. I've attempted to install more than the default number of applications before. Including VNC Server, which I use to access my Linux box from my Windows computer in another room, and seamingly had a computer that wouldn't bootup. It wasn't until I actually tried telnetting in once that I found out it was the VNC Server package which was installed as a server, and was pausing the boot to prompt for a password. Kind of a pain, being behind the graphical bootup display, and therefore undisplayed. I kept on thinking it was the last program displayed on the screen that was locking up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Benjamin Sher Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 10:03 PM To: Expert Subject: [expert] How to install EVERYTHING on LM 8.0? Dear friends: This may seem like a trivial question, but it's been driving me crazy. I have to reinstall LM 8.0, and, for the life of me, I can't find any option to INSTALL EVERYTHING.
Re: [expert] How to install EVERYTHING on LM 8.0?
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Benjamin Sher wrote: > Dear friends: > > > This may seem like a trivial question, but it's been driving me crazy. I > have to reinstall LM 8.0, and, for the life of me, I can't find any > option to INSTALL EVERYTHING. One click of the mouse and you just > install everything on LM 8.0 (at least the 2 CD version, which totals > 3.6 gig, I believe). Red Hat 5.2 used to have that option. You could > just select "Everything", relax, go for a walk, walk on your hands, > whatever. You didn't have to THINK about what to download and what not. > I switched to Mandrake after Red Hat 6.0 so i don't know whether that > option is still available in Red Hat. However, I can't help but wonder > whether a) such an option does exist buried somewhere deep within LM 8.0 > or b) whether there is no such option at all, and if not, then, by God, > why not? I don't mean selecting groups of programs or sets or parts of > sets. I mean clicking on an option that says: INSTALL EVERYTHING, every > file and byte on these CD's. After installation, you can aquaint > yourself with all the goodies in LM 8.0, but why force the user to have > to THINK about what's on those CD's before installation. Just get it on > the hard drive first, get LM 8.0 fully installed and then you can enjoy > leisurely exploring its riches. >From what I can tell (I have no special information as the mandrake developers might), there are two ways of going about doing this: 1) Select all package groups at the package Group selection part at install time, then use Individual Package selection to select the remaining ones. Or, 2) After having installed, run rpm -i *rpm in the RPMS/ directory of both CD's (assuming the GPL edition) Of course, you'll get lots of error messages about packages already installed, and possibly that a package conflicts with another one (eg., postfix and sendmail may not want to be installed together). > Does any of this make sense to you all? Has anyone ever wondered about > this. I mean, even if you have a 20 Gig hardrive, you won't be able to, > you can't install all of LM in one go. There is no option for it. Am I > right? I certainly hope I am wrong. I sure could use such an option > right now before I go really batty. Being a Debian refugee, the option "install everything" just doesn't feel right. Debian got me used to having a huge number packages that are completely extraneous and some which are mutually incompatible. > > Thanks so much for listening. Looking forward to your answers. > > Benjamin -pete
Re: [expert] How to install EVERYTHING on LM 8.0?
On Monday 09 July 2001 23:03, Benjamin Sher wrote: > Dear friends: > > > This may seem like a trivial question, but it's been driving me crazy. I > have to reinstall LM 8.0, and, for the life of me, I can't find any > option to INSTALL EVERYTHING. One click of the mouse and you just > install everything on LM 8.0 (at least the 2 CD version, which totals > 3.6 gig, I believe). Red Hat 5.2 used to have that option. You could > just select "Everything", relax, go for a walk, walk on your hands, > whatever. You didn't have to THINK about what to download and what not. > I switched to Mandrake after Red Hat 6.0 so i don't know whether that > option is still available in Red Hat. However, I can't help but wonder > whether a) such an option does exist buried somewhere deep within LM 8.0 > or b) whether there is no such option at all, and if not, then, by God, > why not? I don't mean selecting groups of programs or sets or parts of > sets. I mean clicking on an option that says: INSTALL EVERYTHING, every > file and byte on these CD's. After installation, you can aquaint > yourself with all the goodies in LM 8.0, but why force the user to have > to THINK about what's on those CD's before installation. Just get it on > the hard drive first, get LM 8.0 fully installed and then you can enjoy > leisurely exploring its riches. > > Does any of this make sense to you all? Has anyone ever wondered about > this. I mean, even if you have a 20 Gig hardrive, you won't be able to, > you can't install all of LM in one go. There is no option for it. Am I > right? I certainly hope I am wrong. I sure could use such an option > right now before I go really batty. > > Thanks so much for listening. Looking forward to your answers. > > Benjamin I cannot think of a time when "everything" was truly "everything". If for no other reason, some packages conflict with others. You can still select all of the top level options and get 95% of the packages (of the ones that are not installed most are pretty esoteric, but one or two -- oh those one or two -- are really great). In any case you can choose to select packages individually, and honor dependancies, about 30-45 minutes work and select everything (though it seems I did this and didn't get the "supplementary applications" CDs -- a problem you won't have with the 2 CD set anyway).
[expert] How to install EVERYTHING on LM 8.0?
Dear friends: This may seem like a trivial question, but it's been driving me crazy. I have to reinstall LM 8.0, and, for the life of me, I can't find any option to INSTALL EVERYTHING. One click of the mouse and you just install everything on LM 8.0 (at least the 2 CD version, which totals 3.6 gig, I believe). Red Hat 5.2 used to have that option. You could just select "Everything", relax, go for a walk, walk on your hands, whatever. You didn't have to THINK about what to download and what not. I switched to Mandrake after Red Hat 6.0 so i don't know whether that option is still available in Red Hat. However, I can't help but wonder whether a) such an option does exist buried somewhere deep within LM 8.0 or b) whether there is no such option at all, and if not, then, by God, why not? I don't mean selecting groups of programs or sets or parts of sets. I mean clicking on an option that says: INSTALL EVERYTHING, every file and byte on these CD's. After installation, you can aquaint yourself with all the goodies in LM 8.0, but why force the user to have to THINK about what's on those CD's before installation. Just get it on the hard drive first, get LM 8.0 fully installed and then you can enjoy leisurely exploring its riches. Does any of this make sense to you all? Has anyone ever wondered about this. I mean, even if you have a 20 Gig hardrive, you won't be able to, you can't install all of LM in one go. There is no option for it. Am I right? I certainly hope I am wrong. I sure could use such an option right now before I go really batty. Thanks so much for listening. Looking forward to your answers. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]