Re: [expert] How to set up a printer with CUPS/KUPS?
James grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > Rumors that I have anything that even comes close to a clue are often over > stated. :) > > One curiosity. I remember that when I installed kups and cups on my > system cups-drivers somehow isn't installed by default. With 8.1 it is > cups-drivers-1.1-15mdk. I do remember having a problem back with 7.2 that > was caused by this one not being installed. Is it on your system? It > seems that the database of drivers is in the cups rpm the actual drivers > are in the cups-drivers rpm. I belive it *was*. :-) See my other message with the subject along the lines of "How to get CUPS to recogonize new printer drivers." I've now got cups-drivers-1.1-24.1mdk installed. Not that it's helping any :-? --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to set up a printer with CUPS/KUPS?
Rumors that I have anything that even comes close to a clue are often over stated. :) One curiosity. I remember that when I installed kups and cups on my system cups-drivers somehow isn't installed by default. With 8.1 it is cups-drivers-1.1-15mdk. I do remember having a problem back with 7.2 that was caused by this one not being installed. Is it on your system? It seems that the database of drivers is in the cups rpm the actual drivers are in the cups-drivers rpm. James On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 07:24:05 -0800 "David Guntner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Followup to myself, but directed to James or anyone else with a clue (since > I'm definitely lacking one here :). > > While looking at /usr/lib/cups/filter/cupsomatic, I descovered that it has > a debug option that writes tons of stuff to an output file. I tried > running another "test printer" function from within KUPS, and the last > entries in the trace file said this: > > Printer escp2-c80 is not a known model > Printer escp2-c80 is not a known model > Unable to open the initial device, quitting > > Ok, so how come KUPS (and the "printers" option under the "system" part of > the tree in control-panel) can figure out what the printer is, but when a > job is passed off to CUPS itself, it doesn't know what the printer is? How > do I go about giving CUPS the information that it needs?? > > --Dave > > David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > > > James grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 11:42:30 -0800 > > > "David Guntner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > There may also be a CUPS error log somewhere. Look in /var/log or > > > > > > /var/spool/. > > > > > > > > I did find /var/spool/cups, which had a error_log file in it. I checked > > > > > > > that, and found the following entries from when I told KUPS to send a > > > > test print to the printer: > > > > > > > > I [time] Job 10 queued on 'lp' by 'root'. > > > > I [time] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops (PID 4888) for job > > > 10. > > > > I [time] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/cupsomatic (PID 4889) > > > > for job 10. > > > > I [time] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/parallel (PID 4890) > > > > for job 10. > > > > E [time] PID 4889 stopped with status 32! > > > > > > > > (Where I have "[time]" is where the timestamp appeared in the log. But > > > > since I'm typing this by hand, I figured that the timestamp wasn't that > > > > important. :-) I'm indenting where something was actually part of the > > > > line that's before it, since my mail program was wrapping in a way which > > > > might have made it harder to follow.) > > > > > > > > That last line seems to indicate a problem, but it doesn't exactly > > > > explain what is causing it. > > > > > > > > When I do a "lp some-text-file", I get the same log entries in error_log > > > > as above, but with an extra line saying: > > > > > > > > I [time] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/texttops > > > > > > > > with the PID and job number. Everything else is the same, including the > > > > > > > error message for the cupsomatic PID. > > > > > > > > Any thoughts on where I should look next? > > > > > > > > > Another useful place for errors is $HOME/.xsession-errors. I recently > > > > > went through some problems with my printer, and found some good info > > > > > there. Try doing a "tail -f .xsession-errors", and then launching a > > > > > print, and see if you can capture anything useful. > > > > > > > > When doing that "test print" function from within KUPS, I saw the > > > > following lines in the .xsession-errors log: > > > > > > > > which: no openProfile in (directories in my $PATH) > > > > which: no webbrowsing in (directories in my $PATH) > > > > /usr/bin/kfmclient > > > > QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range > > > > QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range > > > > QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range > > > > QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range > > > > undecodable token: \001b(hex)[361 > > > > QObject::connect: No such slot > > > > CupsdServerSecurityPage::cleanupEventFilter() > > > > QObject::connect: (sender name: 'unnamed') > > > > QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'unnamed') > > > > > > Don't know if this will help but I'm noticing that sender/reciever unamed. > > > I had a problem before setting up a printer through samba and found that > > > using kups I had to "Name" the printer calling it lp didn't work I > > > acutally had to give it a name (mines called Epson) as for location I used > > > the samba name for the print share. I know yours' is local... but it > > > might need a unique name. > > > > Tried that, it made no difference. /var/log/cups/error_log showed the same > > messages as before, but .xsession-errors was quiet. In fact, other than > > that one time, it's continued to be quiet. I'm not sure at this point that > > the message I did get that on
Re: [expert] How to set up a printer with CUPS/KUPS?
Followup to myself, but directed to James or anyone else with a clue (since I'm definitely lacking one here :). While looking at /usr/lib/cups/filter/cupsomatic, I descovered that it has a debug option that writes tons of stuff to an output file. I tried running another "test printer" function from within KUPS, and the last entries in the trace file said this: Printer escp2-c80 is not a known model Printer escp2-c80 is not a known model Unable to open the initial device, quitting Ok, so how come KUPS (and the "printers" option under the "system" part of the tree in control-panel) can figure out what the printer is, but when a job is passed off to CUPS itself, it doesn't know what the printer is? How do I go about giving CUPS the information that it needs?? --Dave David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > James grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > > > On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 11:42:30 -0800 > > "David Guntner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > There may also be a CUPS error log somewhere. Look in /var/log or > > > > > /var/spool/. > > > > > > I did find /var/spool/cups, which had a error_log file in it. I checked > > > > > that, and found the following entries from when I told KUPS to send a > > > test print to the printer: > > > > > > I [time] Job 10 queued on 'lp' by 'root'. > > > I [time] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops (PID 4888) for job > > 10. > > > I [time] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/cupsomatic (PID 4889) > > > for job 10. > > > I [time] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/parallel (PID 4890) > > > for job 10. > > > E [time] PID 4889 stopped with status 32! > > > > > > (Where I have "[time]" is where the timestamp appeared in the log. But > > > since I'm typing this by hand, I figured that the timestamp wasn't that > > > important. :-) I'm indenting where something was actually part of the > > > line that's before it, since my mail program was wrapping in a way which > > > might have made it harder to follow.) > > > > > > That last line seems to indicate a problem, but it doesn't exactly > > > explain what is causing it. > > > > > > When I do a "lp some-text-file", I get the same log entries in error_log > > > as above, but with an extra line saying: > > > > > > I [time] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/texttops > > > > > > with the PID and job number. Everything else is the same, including the > > > > > error message for the cupsomatic PID. > > > > > > Any thoughts on where I should look next? > > > > > > > Another useful place for errors is $HOME/.xsession-errors. I recently > > > > went through some problems with my printer, and found some good info > > > > there. Try doing a "tail -f .xsession-errors", and then launching a > > > > print, and see if you can capture anything useful. > > > > > > When doing that "test print" function from within KUPS, I saw the > > > following lines in the .xsession-errors log: > > > > > > which: no openProfile in (directories in my $PATH) > > > which: no webbrowsing in (directories in my $PATH) > > > /usr/bin/kfmclient > > > QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range > > > QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range > > > QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range > > > QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range > > > undecodable token: \001b(hex)[361 > > > QObject::connect: No such slot > > > CupsdServerSecurityPage::cleanupEventFilter() > > > QObject::connect: (sender name: 'unnamed') > > > QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'unnamed') > > > > Don't know if this will help but I'm noticing that sender/reciever unamed. > > I had a problem before setting up a printer through samba and found that > > using kups I had to "Name" the printer calling it lp didn't work I > > acutally had to give it a name (mines called Epson) as for location I used > > the samba name for the print share. I know yours' is local... but it > > might need a unique name. > > Tried that, it made no difference. /var/log/cups/error_log showed the same > messages as before, but .xsession-errors was quiet. In fact, other than > that one time, it's continued to be quiet. I'm not sure at this point that > the message I did get that one time is actually related to the problem at > all It's really weird - it can detect which printer I've got hooked up > to the computer, but it won't actually send anything to it. I wish I knew > what "status 32" meant, since it continually tells me in the error_log that > the cupsomatic pid is exiting with that status... > > Any other ideas? -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to set up a printer with CUPS/KUPS?
James grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 11:42:30 -0800 > "David Guntner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > There may also be a CUPS error log somewhere. Look in /var/log or > > > > /var/spool/. > > > > I did find /var/spool/cups, which had a error_log file in it. I checked > > > that, and found the following entries from when I told KUPS to send a > > test print to the printer: > > > > I [time] Job 10 queued on 'lp' by 'root'. > > I [time] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops (PID 4888) for job > 10. > > I [time] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/cupsomatic (PID 4889) > > for job 10. > > I [time] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/parallel (PID 4890) > > for job 10. > > E [time] PID 4889 stopped with status 32! > > > > (Where I have "[time]" is where the timestamp appeared in the log. But > > since I'm typing this by hand, I figured that the timestamp wasn't that > > important. :-) I'm indenting where something was actually part of the > > line that's before it, since my mail program was wrapping in a way which > > might have made it harder to follow.) > > > > That last line seems to indicate a problem, but it doesn't exactly > > explain what is causing it. > > > > When I do a "lp some-text-file", I get the same log entries in error_log > > as above, but with an extra line saying: > > > > I [time] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/texttops > > > > with the PID and job number. Everything else is the same, including the > > > error message for the cupsomatic PID. > > > > Any thoughts on where I should look next? > > > > > Another useful place for errors is $HOME/.xsession-errors. I recently > > > went through some problems with my printer, and found some good info > > > there. Try doing a "tail -f .xsession-errors", and then launching a > > > print, and see if you can capture anything useful. > > > > When doing that "test print" function from within KUPS, I saw the > > following lines in the .xsession-errors log: > > > > which: no openProfile in (directories in my $PATH) > > which: no webbrowsing in (directories in my $PATH) > > /usr/bin/kfmclient > > QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range > > QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range > > QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range > > QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range > > undecodable token: \001b(hex)[361 > > QObject::connect: No such slot > > CupsdServerSecurityPage::cleanupEventFilter() > > QObject::connect: (sender name: 'unnamed') > > QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'unnamed') > > Don't know if this will help but I'm noticing that sender/reciever unamed. > I had a problem before setting up a printer through samba and found that > using kups I had to "Name" the printer calling it lp didn't work I > acutally had to give it a name (mines called Epson) as for location I used > the samba name for the print share. I know yours' is local... but it > might need a unique name. Tried that, it made no difference. /var/log/cups/error_log showed the same messages as before, but .xsession-errors was quiet. In fact, other than that one time, it's continued to be quiet. I'm not sure at this point that the message I did get that one time is actually related to the problem at all It's really weird - it can detect which printer I've got hooked up to the computer, but it won't actually send anything to it. I wish I knew what "status 32" meant, since it continually tells me in the error_log that the cupsomatic pid is exiting with that status... Any other ideas? --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to set up a printer with CUPS/KUPS?
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 11:42:30 -0800 "David Guntner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ric Tibbetts grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2002-02-07 at 06:57, Kevin wrote: > > > On Wednesday 06 February 2002 08:43 pm, you wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > Hopefully, *someone* can help me out here > > > > > > Probably someone can, but I suggest modifying the subject line a little to > > > reflect your problem. I know you're frustrated, but subjects like that > > > usually get ignored. > > Frustrated doesn't *begin* to describe it. :-) But you make a good point, > and I've modified the subject line accordingly. > > > > When you try to print something, do a: > > > > > > tail /var/log/messages > > > > > > and see if there's anything in there relating to the print (i.e. errors on > > > lp0, permissions, etc.) > > I did a "tail -f /var/log/messages" and then started KUPS. Told it to > "Test Printer" - no messages in /var/log/messages. > > > > There may also be a CUPS error log somewhere. Look in /var/log or > > > /var/spool/. > > I did find /var/spool/cups, which had a error_log file in it. I checked > that, and found the following entries from when I told KUPS to send a test > print to the printer: > > I [time] Job 10 queued on 'lp' by 'root'. > I [time] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops (PID 4888) for job 10. > I [time] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/cupsomatic (PID 4889) > for job 10. > I [time] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/parallel (PID 4890) > for job 10. > E [time] PID 4889 stopped with status 32! > > (Where I have "[time]" is where the timestamp appeared in the log. But > since I'm typing this by hand, I figured that the timestamp wasn't that > important. :-) I'm indenting where something was actually part of the line > that's before it, since my mail program was wrapping in a way which might > have made it harder to follow.) > > That last line seems to indicate a problem, but it doesn't exactly explain > what is causing it. > > When I do a "lp some-text-file", I get the same log entries in error_log as > above, but with an extra line saying: > > I [time] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/texttops > > with the PID and job number. Everything else is the same, including the > error message for the cupsomatic PID. > > Any thoughts on where I should look next? > > > Another useful place for errors is $HOME/.xsession-errors. I recently > > went through some problems with my printer, and found some good info > > there. Try doing a "tail -f .xsession-errors", and then launching a > > print, and see if you can capture anything useful. > > When doing that "test print" function from within KUPS, I saw the following > lines in the .xsession-errors log: > > which: no openProfile in (directories in my $PATH) > which: no webbrowsing in (directories in my $PATH) > /usr/bin/kfmclient > QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range > QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range > QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range > QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range > undecodable token: \001b(hex)[361 > QObject::connect: No such slot > CupsdServerSecurityPage::cleanupEventFilter() > QObject::connect: (sender name: 'unnamed') > QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'unnamed') Don't know if this will help but I'm noticing that sender/reciever unamed. I had a problem before setting up a printer through samba and found that using kups I had to "Name" the printer calling it lp didn't work I acutally had to give it a name (mines called Epson) as for location I used the samba name for the print share. I know yours' is local... but it might need a unique name. > > When I did the "lp some-text-file", no new messages showed up in the > .xsession-errors file. > > Any thoughts on this? > > > I know these things can be frustrating. But with enough information, the > > answer can be found. :) > > I sure hope so. :-) I'd like to be able to actually *use* my printer with > my Linux machine > > --Dave > -- > David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! > http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server > for PGP Public key > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to set up a printer with CUPS/KUPS?
Ric Tibbetts grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > On Thu, 2002-02-07 at 06:57, Kevin wrote: > > On Wednesday 06 February 2002 08:43 pm, you wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > Hopefully, *someone* can help me out here > > > > Probably someone can, but I suggest modifying the subject line a little to > > reflect your problem. I know you're frustrated, but subjects like that > > usually get ignored. Frustrated doesn't *begin* to describe it. :-) But you make a good point, and I've modified the subject line accordingly. > > When you try to print something, do a: > > > > tail /var/log/messages > > > > and see if there's anything in there relating to the print (i.e. errors on > > lp0, permissions, etc.) I did a "tail -f /var/log/messages" and then started KUPS. Told it to "Test Printer" - no messages in /var/log/messages. > > There may also be a CUPS error log somewhere. Look in /var/log or > > /var/spool/. I did find /var/spool/cups, which had a error_log file in it. I checked that, and found the following entries from when I told KUPS to send a test print to the printer: I [time] Job 10 queued on 'lp' by 'root'. I [time] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops (PID 4888) for job 10. I [time] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/cupsomatic (PID 4889) for job 10. I [time] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/parallel (PID 4890) for job 10. E [time] PID 4889 stopped with status 32! (Where I have "[time]" is where the timestamp appeared in the log. But since I'm typing this by hand, I figured that the timestamp wasn't that important. :-) I'm indenting where something was actually part of the line that's before it, since my mail program was wrapping in a way which might have made it harder to follow.) That last line seems to indicate a problem, but it doesn't exactly explain what is causing it. When I do a "lp some-text-file", I get the same log entries in error_log as above, but with an extra line saying: I [time] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/texttops with the PID and job number. Everything else is the same, including the error message for the cupsomatic PID. Any thoughts on where I should look next? > Another useful place for errors is $HOME/.xsession-errors. I recently > went through some problems with my printer, and found some good info > there. Try doing a "tail -f .xsession-errors", and then launching a > print, and see if you can capture anything useful. When doing that "test print" function from within KUPS, I saw the following lines in the .xsession-errors log: which: no openProfile in (directories in my $PATH) which: no webbrowsing in (directories in my $PATH) /usr/bin/kfmclient QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range undecodable token: \001b(hex)[361 QObject::connect: No such slot CupsdServerSecurityPage::cleanupEventFilter() QObject::connect: (sender name: 'unnamed') QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'unnamed') When I did the "lp some-text-file", no new messages showed up in the .xsession-errors file. Any thoughts on this? > I know these things can be frustrating. But with enough information, the > answer can be found. :) I sure hope so. :-) I'd like to be able to actually *use* my printer with my Linux machine --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
