Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL - which cooker kernel?

2002-12-18 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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On Sunday 15 December 2002 06:29 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote:
> Yes, you are right, 9.0 totally F***ed up Supermount, even for me (I
> disable it on all vanilla 9.0 installs). It was broken on every install
> I tried (probably 5 or so, including and especially laptops). In the
> current cooker kernel, Supermount seems to work flawlessly for me on my
> home box. It also works on my fathers box and he's running the latest
> cooker too. I can't vouch for it across the board but it seems to have
> been addressed by now and I haven't heard much about it on the Cooker
> List (in itself a good sign). As for USB support, I can't comment,
> perhaps the list can give more insight here...
[...]

Could you please specify the kernel version you are using/talking about?  In 
the Atmel mailing list, there appears to be issues with USB not only with the 
stock 9.0 kernel, but several cooker variants as well - in particular, 
problems that either prevent building the Atmel USB wlan driver or once built 
leads to hard system lockups.

Cooker kernels can change with the day so I'd like to have a starting point 
for getting around the stock 9.0 kernel problems.  I envision having to go 
back to and build a 2.4.18 kernel (from 8.2) to obtain a usable system at 
this point.  I have an Atmel-based usb wlan device (Linksys WUSB11 v2.6) that 
works in 8.2, kernel 2.4.18-8mdk and -8.1mdk, but doesn't work properly in 
the 2.4.19 stock mdk 9.0 kernel.  This is besides the supermount problems of 
9.0.

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Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL

2002-12-16 Thread Robin Ballantine
On Sunday 15 December 2002 8:13 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> I have been trying and trying and trying to build a functional KDE 3 system
> for days now.  I have tried with mandrake 3.0.3, 3.0.4, and 3.0.5 src rpms
> and have managed with varying success to get most of kde built.  The latest
> problem is that though I have gotten ALL src rpms built except
> kdemultimedia, it is this last one that adamantly refuses to build.  I have
> met ALL dependencies for it yet with 3.0.3-7mdk., 3.0.4-1mdk, and
> 3.0.5-1mdk it fails with the same messages:
> 
> praedor

You could try building that package from the source 
(kdemultimedia-3.0.5.tar.bz2) rather than the src.rpm. 
That might help.

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Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL

2002-12-16 Thread flacycads
You can get the 3 cd 9.0 set from Cheap Bytes or SpiderTools for $3.49, 
shipped. Just a thought, but perhaps it is a 2.96 compiler problem. As I 
recal, 8.2 used gcc 2.96, which had a few weird problems. I did finally get 
KDE 3.0.1 installed on 8.2, but I believe I had a problem with multimedia 
package too. IMO, 9.0 is much better than 8.2 was. I've never had a problem 
installing any package from the 9.0 cd's, and gcc 3.2. Are you sure the qt 
version is correct, and is already installed?

Robert Crawford



On Sunday 15 December 2002 04:13 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote:
> Ok, I offer 2 possible solutions for you then. Download the 9.0 ISO's
> for free (or have them burned to CD by someone you know who already has
> them) and upgrade the lot (or just upgrade KDE by adding the 3 9.0 CD's
> as sources in URPMI). Download the (Cooker) KDE RPM's via RPMdrake, and
> then satisfy the dependencies the same way. I just don't understand why
> you can't do the downloads (for free) that you need instead of going
> through the hassle of compiling something that requires vastly different
> libs etc. than the system you are currently running. Just my .0002c worth.
>
> Regards
>
> J
>
> Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> >On Sunday 15 December 2002 15:37, Jason Greenwood wrote:
> >>Just wondering why you don't use the pre-built mdk RPM?? Wouldn't it be
> >>easier??
> >>
> >>Cheers
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >I cannot use the prebuilts because I am not running MDK 9.0.  I am still
> > using 8.2 so I must rebuild for my system.  It seems rather ridiculous
> > for me to shell out for 9.0 just so I can have a working KDE 3 but have
> > to go back to the 8.2 kernel in order to retain functionality (usb,
> > supermount).  I tried the 9.0 kernel for a while (built like all my
> > kernels for years) and it was too borked for me to tolerate it so I went
> > back to the 2.4.18 kernel.  It seems more reasonable to stick with 8.2
> > until 9.1 comes out with a, presumably, bug-fixed kernel.  Thus, I must
> > build kde 3 myself as the prebuilts are based on the wrong glibc.
> >
> >praedor
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL

2002-12-16 Thread Praedor Atrebates
Thanks,

Well...I'll relent and go with 9.0 as the kde rpms I've built don't work 
properly vis a vis alsa.  As a matter of fact, one of the things I had to do 
to get one of the rpms to build (arts?  I don't recall) was update my kernel 
alsa-driver from 0.5.12a to 0.9.0rc2.  I got everything except for 
kdemultimedia rpms built without any burps.  The kdemultimedia builds for a 
long time then craps out with kmix problems regarding alsa.  Doing a 
./configure --path=/usr && make && make install in the 
/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdemultimedia-3.0.x directory produces a "successful" 
build but sound doesn't work properly.  In order to get all this working I 
either have to go back and reinstall 8.2 it seems or move on to 9.0 and fix 
its problems (upgrade to Cooker kernel).  

I'll give it a go.  My supermount problem was with regards to my zip drive - 
loading fine but refusing to unload.  I don't recall the specifics of my usb 
problems at this point, only that going back to the 2.4.18 kernels on 8.2 got 
around them (as well as avoiding the supermount problem).  My hardware is 
"cheap" either.

On Sunday 15 December 2002 06:29 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote:
> Yes, you are right, 9.0 totally F***ed up Supermount, even for me (I
> disable it on all vanilla 9.0 installs). It was broken on every install
> I tried (probably 5 or so, including and especially laptops). In the
> current cooker kernel, Supermount seems to work flawlessly for me on my
> home box. It also works on my fathers box and he's running the latest
> cooker too. I can't vouch for it across the board but it seems to have
> been addressed by now and I haven't heard much about it on the Cooker
> List (in itself a good sign). As for USB support, I can't comment,
> perhaps the list can give more insight here...
[...]


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Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL

2002-12-15 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 19:22, Damian Gatabria wrote:
> El Dom 15 Dic 2002 21:25, James Sparenberg escribió:
> > On the installs I've done.  7 boxes  supermount works fine, on my
> > laptop only am I having trouble.  Seems that the supermount problems are
> > related to hardware, not a generality (BTW the other boxes I've put
> > it on don't have cdroms )
> >
> > James
> 
> 
> James, several people have already said supermount's problems 
> in 9.0 can be blamed on crappy hardware.
> 
> I have seen this excuse several times already, but i just
> can't buy it. Mandrake 9.0 includes a kernel whose Supermount
> does not work in my box. This would be, according to the many
> people that say so, my crappy hardware's fault.
> 
> But why does it work OK with 8.2, then?
> 
> I would be more inclined to say "Mandrake 9's stock
> kernel has bugs that arise only on certain kinds of
> hardware" more than "it's a hardware related problem",
> as the latter gives the idea that the hardware is to blame,
> which it is not.
> 
> 
> Damian

Interesting and accurate thought... But I still hold to hardware,as a
possible source, only because the same box that has this problem had it
with 8.2 and 8.1 also.  (I didn't have it before that, it's a used
laptop btw) The boxes that aren't having problems all have cdroms or
cdwriters that are under 1 year old.  I can on my personal desktop
recreate the problem by putting in a 4 year old cdrom drive I own.  Yet
with the newer Asus CDwriter I've never had a lick of problems.  If my
thought is accurate it doesn't mean the hardware is bad per se but
rather that the kernel builders aren't accurately supporting legacy
hardware. Greatest problem is the fact that no author can ever test
beyond the hardware he/she has in front of him.

James

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> 
> 
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Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL

2002-12-15 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Sunday 15 December 2002 10:51 am, mycal62 wrote:
> I must agree with this estimation.
>
> I have a perfect 8.0 install that has everything working PERFECTLY !
>
> I now have a 9.0 install that seems to also work perfectly. ( seems to
> so far that is ;-) )
>
> But I couldn't get 8.2 to work on my "crappy hardware"  ;-) ;-) ;-)
>
> It's not the hardware it's the OS.  Obviously , not ALL Mandrake
> versions work with all hardware configurations.
>
> though some may not like this opinion, it seems to be a fact of life.
>
> My 2 cents

mycal62:
I've run every distribution from 7.0 to 8.2. Most of them worked very well 
right out of the box. 7.2, however, would always trash itself after a couple 
of days. I made a couple of tries, but ended up back at 7.1. It's too soon to 
tell about 9.0, but we're not off to a real good start here. Your assessment 
that hardware variations have a lot to do with it is probably correct. (And 
probably the origin of YMMV.)
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Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL

2002-12-15 Thread mycal62
I must agree with this estimation.

I have a perfect 8.0 install that has everything working PERFECTLY !

I now have a 9.0 install that seems to also work perfectly. ( seems to 
so far that is ;-) )

But I couldn't get 8.2 to work on my "crappy hardware"  ;-) ;-) ;-)

It's not the hardware it's the OS.  Obviously , not ALL Mandrake 
versions work with all hardware configurations.

though some may not like this opinion, it seems to be a fact of life.

My 2 cents

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Then you have lost sight of your goal! " 




Damian Gatabria wrote:

El Dom 15 Dic 2002 21:25, James Sparenberg escribió:
 

On the installs I've done.  7 boxes  supermount works fine, on my
laptop only am I having trouble.  Seems that the supermount problems are
related to hardware, not a generality (BTW the other boxes I've put
it on don't have cdroms )

James
   



James, several people have already said supermount's problems 
in 9.0 can be blamed on crappy hardware.

I have seen this excuse several times already, but i just
can't buy it. Mandrake 9.0 includes a kernel whose Supermount
does not work in my box. This would be, according to the many
people that say so, my crappy hardware's fault.

But why does it work OK with 8.2, then?

I would be more inclined to say "Mandrake 9's stock
kernel has bugs that arise only on certain kinds of
hardware" more than "it's a hardware related problem",
as the latter gives the idea that the hardware is to blame,
which it is not.


Damian


 



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Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL

2002-12-15 Thread Damian Gatabria
El Dom 15 Dic 2002 21:25, James Sparenberg escribió:
> On the installs I've done.  7 boxes  supermount works fine, on my
> laptop only am I having trouble.  Seems that the supermount problems are
> related to hardware, not a generality (BTW the other boxes I've put
> it on don't have cdroms )
>
> James


James, several people have already said supermount's problems 
in 9.0 can be blamed on crappy hardware.

I have seen this excuse several times already, but i just
can't buy it. Mandrake 9.0 includes a kernel whose Supermount
does not work in my box. This would be, according to the many
people that say so, my crappy hardware's fault.

But why does it work OK with 8.2, then?

I would be more inclined to say "Mandrake 9's stock
kernel has bugs that arise only on certain kinds of
hardware" more than "it's a hardware related problem",
as the latter gives the idea that the hardware is to blame,
which it is not.


Damian



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Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL

2002-12-15 Thread James Sparenberg
On the installs I've done.  7 boxes  supermount works fine, on my
laptop only am I having trouble.  Seems that the supermount problems are
related to hardware, not a generality (BTW the other boxes I've put
it on don't have cdroms ) 

James

On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 14:27, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> On Sunday 15 December 2002 05:15 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote:
> > Ok, I'm with you now. I know plenty of people who have 9.0 and would
> > burn it for you for free (if you replaced the CD's for them). I am sure
> > you do as well. If not, I suggest giving your location (roughly) to the
> > list to see if there is someone near you who is willing to burn you a
> > copy of 9.0. From there, simply upgrade the kernel to the cooker one (it
> > works, I know, I run Cooker at home) and you're all set. I see what you
> 
> As I understood it (and experienced it) some people were having no problems 
> with the 9.0 kernel but there were a large number who found supermount 
> partially or totally borked and had to disable it.  Were you among this 
> contingent?  If so, are you saying the Cooker kernel fixes the supermount 
> problem?  I also have a usb wireless device.  Under the 9.0 kernel, it was 
> unreliable and prone to lockups (the device, not the system).  If I can be 
> reasonably assured that 1) supermount is now fixed in the Cooker kernel and 
> 2) usb is updated, then I would consider going with a full 9.0 and 
> immediately update to the Cooker kernel.  
> 
> praedor
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL

2002-12-15 Thread Ron Stodden
Praedor Atrebates wrote:


I cannot do the iso download because I am stuck with a 56k dialup with a time 
limit per call (university rules).  There is NO proper option for broadband 
that would make downloading ISOs and whatnot doable. 

Many downloaders have a resume option which lets you continue 
downloadong where you left off at the end of the last session.

Use rsync to download over your 56KB link, but make sure the --partial 
option is set.

You have been around here long enough to be aware of our 
troels.rsync8.3.pl from my web site.   Use it (--partial is always set).
The web site also contains an example of using cron to automatically 
redial after a server timeout disconnect to enable a fully hands-off 
automated troels download under time-limited session conditions.

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Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL

2002-12-15 Thread Jason Greenwood




Yes, you are right, 9.0 totally F***ed up Supermount, even for me (I disable
it on all vanilla 9.0 installs). It was broken on every install I tried (probably
5 or so, including and especially laptops). In the current cooker kernel,
Supermount seems to work flawlessly for me on my home box. It also works
on my fathers box and he's running the latest cooker too. I can't vouch for
it across the board but it seems to have been addressed by now and I haven't
heard much about it on the Cooker List (in itself a good sign). As for USB
support, I can't comment, perhaps the list can give more insight here...

All the best

J

Praedor Atrebates wrote:

  On Sunday 15 December 2002 05:15 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote:
  
  
Ok, I'm with you now. I know plenty of people who have 9.0 and would
burn it for you for free (if you replaced the CD's for them). I am sure
you do as well. If not, I suggest giving your location (roughly) to the
list to see if there is someone near you who is willing to burn you a
copy of 9.0. From there, simply upgrade the kernel to the cooker one (it
works, I know, I run Cooker at home) and you're all set. I see what you

  
  
As I understood it (and experienced it) some people were having no problems 
with the 9.0 kernel but there were a large number who found supermount 
partially or totally borked and had to disable it.  Were you among this 
contingent?  If so, are you saying the Cooker kernel fixes the supermount 
problem?  I also have a usb wireless device.  Under the 9.0 kernel, it was 
unreliable and prone to lockups (the device, not the system).  If I can be 
reasonably assured that 1) supermount is now fixed in the Cooker kernel and 
2) usb is updated, then I would consider going with a full 9.0 and 
immediately update to the Cooker kernel.  

praedor

  
  

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Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL

2002-12-15 Thread Praedor Atrebates
On Sunday 15 December 2002 05:15 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote:
> Ok, I'm with you now. I know plenty of people who have 9.0 and would
> burn it for you for free (if you replaced the CD's for them). I am sure
> you do as well. If not, I suggest giving your location (roughly) to the
> list to see if there is someone near you who is willing to burn you a
> copy of 9.0. From there, simply upgrade the kernel to the cooker one (it
> works, I know, I run Cooker at home) and you're all set. I see what you

As I understood it (and experienced it) some people were having no problems 
with the 9.0 kernel but there were a large number who found supermount 
partially or totally borked and had to disable it.  Were you among this 
contingent?  If so, are you saying the Cooker kernel fixes the supermount 
problem?  I also have a usb wireless device.  Under the 9.0 kernel, it was 
unreliable and prone to lockups (the device, not the system).  If I can be 
reasonably assured that 1) supermount is now fixed in the Cooker kernel and 
2) usb is updated, then I would consider going with a full 9.0 and 
immediately update to the Cooker kernel.  

praedor


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Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL

2002-12-15 Thread Jason Greenwood




Ok, I'm with you now. I know plenty of people who have 9.0 and would burn
it for you for free (if you replaced the CD's for them). I am sure you do
as well. If not, I suggest giving your location (roughly) to the list to
see if there is someone near you who is willing to burn you a copy of 9.0.
>From there, simply upgrade the kernel to the cooker one (it works, I know,
I run Cooker at home) and you're all set. I see what you are trying to accomplish
it is just that in my experience, trying to update *components* of a system,
especially with such a big jump in Libs, GCC etc. is difficult and fails
miserably.

Wish you all the best anyway.

Regards

J

Praedor Atrebates wrote:

  On Sunday 15 December 2002 16:13, Jason Greenwood wrote:
  
  
Ok, I offer 2 possible solutions for you then. Download the 9.0 ISO's
for free (or have them burned to CD by someone you know who already has
them) and upgrade the lot (or just upgrade KDE by adding the 3 9.0 CD's
as sources in URPMI). Download the (Cooker) KDE RPM's via RPMdrake, and
then satisfy the dependencies the same way. I just don't understand why
you can't do the downloads (for free) that you need instead of going
through the hassle of compiling something that requires vastly different
libs etc. than the system you are currently running. Just my .0002c worth.

  
  
This all started when I noticed that kde 3.0.3 wasn't working properly on my 
desktop (the problems with konqueror and javascript and any and all netscape 
plugins).  On my laptop kde 3.0.3 works perfectly fine.  Both systems are 
running 8.2.  

I cannot do the iso download because I am stuck with a 56k dialup with a time 
limit per call (university rules).  There is NO proper option for broadband 
that would make downloading ISOs and whatnot doable.  If not for the kernel 
problems with 9.0 I would be quite happy buying the boxed set to make it easy 
but the kernel IS defective vs 8.2 (supermount is important and I had nothing 
but problems with usb devices with it as well when I tried the 2.4.19 
kernel).  

While writing this, my latest attempt at kdemultimedia succeeded...but not the 
rpm.  I installed the src rpm and tried several times to build the rpm.  
Nope.  I then did my last option in such cases and went right to the 
/usr/src/RPM/BUILD directory and did an old-fashioned ./configure && make && 
make install in the kdemultimedia directory.  More often than not, if an rpm 
fails to build due to some (usually) bogus error, building the source 
directly works.  This would appear to indicate a defect in the spec (or 
other?) rpm-specific config.

praedor

  
  

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Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL

2002-12-15 Thread Praedor Atrebates
On Sunday 15 December 2002 16:13, Jason Greenwood wrote:
> Ok, I offer 2 possible solutions for you then. Download the 9.0 ISO's
> for free (or have them burned to CD by someone you know who already has
> them) and upgrade the lot (or just upgrade KDE by adding the 3 9.0 CD's
> as sources in URPMI). Download the (Cooker) KDE RPM's via RPMdrake, and
> then satisfy the dependencies the same way. I just don't understand why
> you can't do the downloads (for free) that you need instead of going
> through the hassle of compiling something that requires vastly different
> libs etc. than the system you are currently running. Just my .0002c worth.

This all started when I noticed that kde 3.0.3 wasn't working properly on my 
desktop (the problems with konqueror and javascript and any and all netscape 
plugins).  On my laptop kde 3.0.3 works perfectly fine.  Both systems are 
running 8.2.  

I cannot do the iso download because I am stuck with a 56k dialup with a time 
limit per call (university rules).  There is NO proper option for broadband 
that would make downloading ISOs and whatnot doable.  If not for the kernel 
problems with 9.0 I would be quite happy buying the boxed set to make it easy 
but the kernel IS defective vs 8.2 (supermount is important and I had nothing 
but problems with usb devices with it as well when I tried the 2.4.19 
kernel).  

While writing this, my latest attempt at kdemultimedia succeeded...but not the 
rpm.  I installed the src rpm and tried several times to build the rpm.  
Nope.  I then did my last option in such cases and went right to the 
/usr/src/RPM/BUILD directory and did an old-fashioned ./configure && make && 
make install in the kdemultimedia directory.  More often than not, if an rpm 
fails to build due to some (usually) bogus error, building the source 
directly works.  This would appear to indicate a defect in the spec (or 
other?) rpm-specific config.

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Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL

2002-12-15 Thread Jason Greenwood




Ok, I offer 2 possible solutions for you then. Download the 9.0 ISO's for
free (or have them burned to CD by someone you know who already has them)
and upgrade the lot (or just upgrade KDE by adding the 3 9.0 CD's as sources
in URPMI). Download the (Cooker) KDE RPM's via RPMdrake, and then satisfy
the dependencies the same way. I just don't understand why you can't do the
downloads (for free) that you need instead of going through the hassle of
compiling something that requires vastly different libs etc. than the system
you are currently running. Just my .0002c worth.

Regards

J

Praedor Atrebates wrote:

  On Sunday 15 December 2002 15:37, Jason Greenwood wrote:
  
  
Just wondering why you don't use the pre-built mdk RPM?? Wouldn't it be
easier??

Cheers

  
  
Hello,

I cannot use the prebuilts because I am not running MDK 9.0.  I am still using 
8.2 so I must rebuild for my system.  It seems rather ridiculous for me to 
shell out for 9.0 just so I can have a working KDE 3 but have to go back to 
the 8.2 kernel in order to retain functionality (usb, supermount).  I tried 
the 9.0 kernel for a while (built like all my kernels for years) and it was 
too borked for me to tolerate it so I went back to the 2.4.18 kernel.  It 
seems more reasonable to stick with 8.2 until 9.1 comes out with a, 
presumably, bug-fixed kernel.  Thus, I must build kde 3 myself as the 
prebuilts are based on the wrong glibc.

praedor

  
  

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Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL

2002-12-15 Thread Praedor Atrebates
On Sunday 15 December 2002 15:37, Jason Greenwood wrote:
> Just wondering why you don't use the pre-built mdk RPM?? Wouldn't it be
> easier??
>
> Cheers

Hello,

I cannot use the prebuilts because I am not running MDK 9.0.  I am still using 
8.2 so I must rebuild for my system.  It seems rather ridiculous for me to 
shell out for 9.0 just so I can have a working KDE 3 but have to go back to 
the 8.2 kernel in order to retain functionality (usb, supermount).  I tried 
the 9.0 kernel for a while (built like all my kernels for years) and it was 
too borked for me to tolerate it so I went back to the 2.4.18 kernel.  It 
seems more reasonable to stick with 8.2 until 9.1 comes out with a, 
presumably, bug-fixed kernel.  Thus, I must build kde 3 myself as the 
prebuilts are based on the wrong glibc.

praedor


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Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL

2002-12-15 Thread Jason Greenwood




Just wondering why you don't use the pre-built mdk RPM?? Wouldn't it be easier??

Cheers

J

Praedor Atrebates wrote:

  I have been trying and trying and trying to build a functional KDE 3 system 
for days now.  I have tried with mandrake 3.0.3, 3.0.4, and 3.0.5 src rpms 
and have managed with varying success to get most of kde built.  The latest 
problem is that though I have gotten ALL src rpms built except kdemultimedia, 
it is this last one that adamantly refuses to build.  I have met ALL 
dependencies for it yet with 3.0.3-7mdk., 3.0.4-1mdk, and 3.0.5-1mdk it fails 
with the same messages:

mixer_alsa.cpp:108: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:109: parse error before `<'
mixer_alsa.cpp:110: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no 
type
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:110: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()'
mixer_alsa.cpp:109: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:110: parse error before `<'
mixer_alsa.cpp:111: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no 
type
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:111: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()'
mixer_alsa.cpp:110: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:111: parse error before `<'
mixer_alsa.cpp:112: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no 
type
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:112: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()'
mixer_alsa.cpp:111: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:112: parse error before `<'
mixer_alsa.cpp:113: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no 
type
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:113: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()'
mixer_alsa.cpp:112: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:113: parse error before `<'
mixer_alsa.cpp:114: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no 
type
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:114: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()'
mixer_alsa.cpp:113: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:114: parse error before `<'
mixer_alsa.cpp:115: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no 
type
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:115: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()'
mixer_alsa.cpp:114: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:115: parse error before `<'
mixer_alsa.cpp:116: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no 
type
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:116: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()'
mixer_alsa.cpp:115: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:116: parse error before `<'
mixer_alsa.cpp:117: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no 
type
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:117: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()'
mixer_alsa.cpp:116: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:117: parse error before `<'
mixer_alsa.cpp: In method `int Mixer_ALSA::openMixer ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:132: `snd_defaults_mixer_card' undeclared (first use 
this function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:133: `snd_defaults_mixer_device' undeclared (first use 
this function)
/usr/include/alsa/mixer.h:84: too many arguments to function `int 
snd_mixer_open (snd_mixer_t **, int)'
mixer_alsa.cpp:136: at this point in file
mixer_alsa.cpp:141: `snd_mixer_groups' undeclared (first use this 
function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:145: `snd_mixer_gid_t' undeclared (first use this 
function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:145: parse error before `)'
mixer_alsa.cpp:154: `gid' undeclared (first use this function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:157: `snd_mixer_group_t' undeclared (first use this 
function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:157: parse error before `;'
mixer_alsa.cpp:158: `group' undeclared (first use this function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:160: `snd_mixer_group_read' undeclared (first use this 
function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:169: `SND_MIXER_GRPCAP_VOLUME' undeclared (first use 
this function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:173: `SND_MIXER_GRPCAP_CAPTURE' undeclared (first use 
this function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:198: `snd_mixer_info_t' undeclared (first use this 
function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:198: parse error before `;'
mixer_alsa.cpp:199: `info' undeclared (first use this function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:199: `snd_mixer_info' undeclared (first use this 
function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:205: confused by earlier errors, bailing out
make[3]: *** [kmix_panelapplet_la.all_cpp.lo] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdemultimedia-3.0.5/kmix'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdemult

[expert] I am in KDE HELL

2002-12-15 Thread Praedor Atrebates
I have been trying and trying and trying to build a functional KDE 3 system 
for days now.  I have tried with mandrake 3.0.3, 3.0.4, and 3.0.5 src rpms 
and have managed with varying success to get most of kde built.  The latest 
problem is that though I have gotten ALL src rpms built except kdemultimedia, 
it is this last one that adamantly refuses to build.  I have met ALL 
dependencies for it yet with 3.0.3-7mdk., 3.0.4-1mdk, and 3.0.5-1mdk it fails 
with the same messages:

mixer_alsa.cpp:108: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:109: parse error before `<'
mixer_alsa.cpp:110: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no 
type
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:110: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()'
mixer_alsa.cpp:109: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:110: parse error before `<'
mixer_alsa.cpp:111: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no 
type
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:111: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()'
mixer_alsa.cpp:110: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:111: parse error before `<'
mixer_alsa.cpp:112: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no 
type
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:112: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()'
mixer_alsa.cpp:111: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:112: parse error before `<'
mixer_alsa.cpp:113: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no 
type
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:113: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()'
mixer_alsa.cpp:112: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:113: parse error before `<'
mixer_alsa.cpp:114: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no 
type
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:114: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()'
mixer_alsa.cpp:113: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:114: parse error before `<'
mixer_alsa.cpp:115: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no 
type
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:115: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()'
mixer_alsa.cpp:114: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:115: parse error before `<'
mixer_alsa.cpp:116: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no 
type
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:116: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()'
mixer_alsa.cpp:115: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:116: parse error before `<'
mixer_alsa.cpp:117: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no 
type
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:117: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()'
mixer_alsa.cpp:116: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here
mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:117: parse error before `<'
mixer_alsa.cpp: In method `int Mixer_ALSA::openMixer ()':
mixer_alsa.cpp:132: `snd_defaults_mixer_card' undeclared (first use 
this function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:133: `snd_defaults_mixer_device' undeclared (first use 
this function)
/usr/include/alsa/mixer.h:84: too many arguments to function `int 
snd_mixer_open (snd_mixer_t **, int)'
mixer_alsa.cpp:136: at this point in file
mixer_alsa.cpp:141: `snd_mixer_groups' undeclared (first use this 
function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:145: `snd_mixer_gid_t' undeclared (first use this 
function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:145: parse error before `)'
mixer_alsa.cpp:154: `gid' undeclared (first use this function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:157: `snd_mixer_group_t' undeclared (first use this 
function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:157: parse error before `;'
mixer_alsa.cpp:158: `group' undeclared (first use this function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:160: `snd_mixer_group_read' undeclared (first use this 
function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:169: `SND_MIXER_GRPCAP_VOLUME' undeclared (first use 
this function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:173: `SND_MIXER_GRPCAP_CAPTURE' undeclared (first use 
this function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:198: `snd_mixer_info_t' undeclared (first use this 
function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:198: parse error before `;'
mixer_alsa.cpp:199: `info' undeclared (first use this function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:199: `snd_mixer_info' undeclared (first use this 
function)
mixer_alsa.cpp:205: confused by earlier errors, bailing out
make[3]: *** [kmix_panelapplet_la.all_cpp.lo] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdemultimedia-3.0.5/kmix'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdemultimedia-3.0.5/kmix'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdemultimedia-3.0.5'
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