Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL - which cooker kernel?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 15 December 2002 06:29 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: > Yes, you are right, 9.0 totally F***ed up Supermount, even for me (I > disable it on all vanilla 9.0 installs). It was broken on every install > I tried (probably 5 or so, including and especially laptops). In the > current cooker kernel, Supermount seems to work flawlessly for me on my > home box. It also works on my fathers box and he's running the latest > cooker too. I can't vouch for it across the board but it seems to have > been addressed by now and I haven't heard much about it on the Cooker > List (in itself a good sign). As for USB support, I can't comment, > perhaps the list can give more insight here... [...] Could you please specify the kernel version you are using/talking about? In the Atmel mailing list, there appears to be issues with USB not only with the stock 9.0 kernel, but several cooker variants as well - in particular, problems that either prevent building the Atmel USB wlan driver or once built leads to hard system lockups. Cooker kernels can change with the day so I'd like to have a starting point for getting around the stock 9.0 kernel problems. I envision having to go back to and build a 2.4.18 kernel (from 8.2) to obtain a usable system at this point. I have an Atmel-based usb wlan device (Linksys WUSB11 v2.6) that works in 8.2, kernel 2.4.18-8mdk and -8.1mdk, but doesn't work properly in the 2.4.19 stock mdk 9.0 kernel. This is besides the supermount problems of 9.0. praedor -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+ALNNmkm5RO1gX9cRAjihAKCrSePKkKti5WB301on0ASFhtRG0gCfeVHL 7DGWFLJi/hKyIVW0Rv8cd0c= =sAze -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
On Sunday 15 December 2002 8:13 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > I have been trying and trying and trying to build a functional KDE 3 system > for days now. I have tried with mandrake 3.0.3, 3.0.4, and 3.0.5 src rpms > and have managed with varying success to get most of kde built. The latest > problem is that though I have gotten ALL src rpms built except > kdemultimedia, it is this last one that adamantly refuses to build. I have > met ALL dependencies for it yet with 3.0.3-7mdk., 3.0.4-1mdk, and > 3.0.5-1mdk it fails with the same messages: > > praedor You could try building that package from the source (kdemultimedia-3.0.5.tar.bz2) rather than the src.rpm. That might help. Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
You can get the 3 cd 9.0 set from Cheap Bytes or SpiderTools for $3.49, shipped. Just a thought, but perhaps it is a 2.96 compiler problem. As I recal, 8.2 used gcc 2.96, which had a few weird problems. I did finally get KDE 3.0.1 installed on 8.2, but I believe I had a problem with multimedia package too. IMO, 9.0 is much better than 8.2 was. I've never had a problem installing any package from the 9.0 cd's, and gcc 3.2. Are you sure the qt version is correct, and is already installed? Robert Crawford On Sunday 15 December 2002 04:13 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: > Ok, I offer 2 possible solutions for you then. Download the 9.0 ISO's > for free (or have them burned to CD by someone you know who already has > them) and upgrade the lot (or just upgrade KDE by adding the 3 9.0 CD's > as sources in URPMI). Download the (Cooker) KDE RPM's via RPMdrake, and > then satisfy the dependencies the same way. I just don't understand why > you can't do the downloads (for free) that you need instead of going > through the hassle of compiling something that requires vastly different > libs etc. than the system you are currently running. Just my .0002c worth. > > Regards > > J > > Praedor Atrebates wrote: > >On Sunday 15 December 2002 15:37, Jason Greenwood wrote: > >>Just wondering why you don't use the pre-built mdk RPM?? Wouldn't it be > >>easier?? > >> > >>Cheers > > > >Hello, > > > >I cannot use the prebuilts because I am not running MDK 9.0. I am still > > using 8.2 so I must rebuild for my system. It seems rather ridiculous > > for me to shell out for 9.0 just so I can have a working KDE 3 but have > > to go back to the 8.2 kernel in order to retain functionality (usb, > > supermount). I tried the 9.0 kernel for a while (built like all my > > kernels for years) and it was too borked for me to tolerate it so I went > > back to the 2.4.18 kernel. It seems more reasonable to stick with 8.2 > > until 9.1 comes out with a, presumably, bug-fixed kernel. Thus, I must > > build kde 3 myself as the prebuilts are based on the wrong glibc. > > > >praedor > > > > > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
Thanks, Well...I'll relent and go with 9.0 as the kde rpms I've built don't work properly vis a vis alsa. As a matter of fact, one of the things I had to do to get one of the rpms to build (arts? I don't recall) was update my kernel alsa-driver from 0.5.12a to 0.9.0rc2. I got everything except for kdemultimedia rpms built without any burps. The kdemultimedia builds for a long time then craps out with kmix problems regarding alsa. Doing a ./configure --path=/usr && make && make install in the /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdemultimedia-3.0.x directory produces a "successful" build but sound doesn't work properly. In order to get all this working I either have to go back and reinstall 8.2 it seems or move on to 9.0 and fix its problems (upgrade to Cooker kernel). I'll give it a go. My supermount problem was with regards to my zip drive - loading fine but refusing to unload. I don't recall the specifics of my usb problems at this point, only that going back to the 2.4.18 kernels on 8.2 got around them (as well as avoiding the supermount problem). My hardware is "cheap" either. On Sunday 15 December 2002 06:29 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: > Yes, you are right, 9.0 totally F***ed up Supermount, even for me (I > disable it on all vanilla 9.0 installs). It was broken on every install > I tried (probably 5 or so, including and especially laptops). In the > current cooker kernel, Supermount seems to work flawlessly for me on my > home box. It also works on my fathers box and he's running the latest > cooker too. I can't vouch for it across the board but it seems to have > been addressed by now and I haven't heard much about it on the Cooker > List (in itself a good sign). As for USB support, I can't comment, > perhaps the list can give more insight here... [...] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 19:22, Damian Gatabria wrote: > El Dom 15 Dic 2002 21:25, James Sparenberg escribió: > > On the installs I've done. 7 boxes supermount works fine, on my > > laptop only am I having trouble. Seems that the supermount problems are > > related to hardware, not a generality (BTW the other boxes I've put > > it on don't have cdroms ) > > > > James > > > James, several people have already said supermount's problems > in 9.0 can be blamed on crappy hardware. > > I have seen this excuse several times already, but i just > can't buy it. Mandrake 9.0 includes a kernel whose Supermount > does not work in my box. This would be, according to the many > people that say so, my crappy hardware's fault. > > But why does it work OK with 8.2, then? > > I would be more inclined to say "Mandrake 9's stock > kernel has bugs that arise only on certain kinds of > hardware" more than "it's a hardware related problem", > as the latter gives the idea that the hardware is to blame, > which it is not. > > > Damian Interesting and accurate thought... But I still hold to hardware,as a possible source, only because the same box that has this problem had it with 8.2 and 8.1 also. (I didn't have it before that, it's a used laptop btw) The boxes that aren't having problems all have cdroms or cdwriters that are under 1 year old. I can on my personal desktop recreate the problem by putting in a 4 year old cdrom drive I own. Yet with the newer Asus CDwriter I've never had a lick of problems. If my thought is accurate it doesn't mean the hardware is bad per se but rather that the kernel builders aren't accurately supporting legacy hardware. Greatest problem is the fact that no author can ever test beyond the hardware he/she has in front of him. James > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
On Sunday 15 December 2002 10:51 am, mycal62 wrote: > I must agree with this estimation. > > I have a perfect 8.0 install that has everything working PERFECTLY ! > > I now have a 9.0 install that seems to also work perfectly. ( seems to > so far that is ;-) ) > > But I couldn't get 8.2 to work on my "crappy hardware" ;-) ;-) ;-) > > It's not the hardware it's the OS. Obviously , not ALL Mandrake > versions work with all hardware configurations. > > though some may not like this opinion, it seems to be a fact of life. > > My 2 cents mycal62: I've run every distribution from 7.0 to 8.2. Most of them worked very well right out of the box. 7.2, however, would always trash itself after a couple of days. I made a couple of tries, but ended up back at 7.1. It's too soon to tell about 9.0, but we're not off to a real good start here. Your assessment that hardware variations have a lot to do with it is probably correct. (And probably the origin of YMMV.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
I must agree with this estimation. I have a perfect 8.0 install that has everything working PERFECTLY ! I now have a 9.0 install that seems to also work perfectly. ( seems to so far that is ;-) ) But I couldn't get 8.2 to work on my "crappy hardware" ;-) ;-) ;-) It's not the hardware it's the OS. Obviously , not ALL Mandrake versions work with all hardware configurations. though some may not like this opinion, it seems to be a fact of life. My 2 cents -- ° Currently triple booting 98lite; MDK 8.0 kernel 2.4.3-20; MDK 9.0 kernel 2.4.19-16 Registered Linux User #248955 ° "If obstacles are what you see in your path... Then you have lost sight of your goal! " Damian Gatabria wrote: El Dom 15 Dic 2002 21:25, James Sparenberg escribió: On the installs I've done. 7 boxes supermount works fine, on my laptop only am I having trouble. Seems that the supermount problems are related to hardware, not a generality (BTW the other boxes I've put it on don't have cdroms ) James James, several people have already said supermount's problems in 9.0 can be blamed on crappy hardware. I have seen this excuse several times already, but i just can't buy it. Mandrake 9.0 includes a kernel whose Supermount does not work in my box. This would be, according to the many people that say so, my crappy hardware's fault. But why does it work OK with 8.2, then? I would be more inclined to say "Mandrake 9's stock kernel has bugs that arise only on certain kinds of hardware" more than "it's a hardware related problem", as the latter gives the idea that the hardware is to blame, which it is not. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
El Dom 15 Dic 2002 21:25, James Sparenberg escribió: > On the installs I've done. 7 boxes supermount works fine, on my > laptop only am I having trouble. Seems that the supermount problems are > related to hardware, not a generality (BTW the other boxes I've put > it on don't have cdroms ) > > James James, several people have already said supermount's problems in 9.0 can be blamed on crappy hardware. I have seen this excuse several times already, but i just can't buy it. Mandrake 9.0 includes a kernel whose Supermount does not work in my box. This would be, according to the many people that say so, my crappy hardware's fault. But why does it work OK with 8.2, then? I would be more inclined to say "Mandrake 9's stock kernel has bugs that arise only on certain kinds of hardware" more than "it's a hardware related problem", as the latter gives the idea that the hardware is to blame, which it is not. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
On the installs I've done. 7 boxes supermount works fine, on my laptop only am I having trouble. Seems that the supermount problems are related to hardware, not a generality (BTW the other boxes I've put it on don't have cdroms ) James On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 14:27, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > On Sunday 15 December 2002 05:15 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: > > Ok, I'm with you now. I know plenty of people who have 9.0 and would > > burn it for you for free (if you replaced the CD's for them). I am sure > > you do as well. If not, I suggest giving your location (roughly) to the > > list to see if there is someone near you who is willing to burn you a > > copy of 9.0. From there, simply upgrade the kernel to the cooker one (it > > works, I know, I run Cooker at home) and you're all set. I see what you > > As I understood it (and experienced it) some people were having no problems > with the 9.0 kernel but there were a large number who found supermount > partially or totally borked and had to disable it. Were you among this > contingent? If so, are you saying the Cooker kernel fixes the supermount > problem? I also have a usb wireless device. Under the 9.0 kernel, it was > unreliable and prone to lockups (the device, not the system). If I can be > reasonably assured that 1) supermount is now fixed in the Cooker kernel and > 2) usb is updated, then I would consider going with a full 9.0 and > immediately update to the Cooker kernel. > > praedor > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
Praedor Atrebates wrote: I cannot do the iso download because I am stuck with a 56k dialup with a time limit per call (university rules). There is NO proper option for broadband that would make downloading ISOs and whatnot doable. Many downloaders have a resume option which lets you continue downloadong where you left off at the end of the last session. Use rsync to download over your 56KB link, but make sure the --partial option is set. You have been around here long enough to be aware of our troels.rsync8.3.pl from my web site. Use it (--partial is always set). The web site also contains an example of using cron to automatically redial after a server timeout disconnect to enable a fully hands-off automated troels download under time-limited session conditions. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
Yes, you are right, 9.0 totally F***ed up Supermount, even for me (I disable it on all vanilla 9.0 installs). It was broken on every install I tried (probably 5 or so, including and especially laptops). In the current cooker kernel, Supermount seems to work flawlessly for me on my home box. It also works on my fathers box and he's running the latest cooker too. I can't vouch for it across the board but it seems to have been addressed by now and I haven't heard much about it on the Cooker List (in itself a good sign). As for USB support, I can't comment, perhaps the list can give more insight here... All the best J Praedor Atrebates wrote: On Sunday 15 December 2002 05:15 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: Ok, I'm with you now. I know plenty of people who have 9.0 and would burn it for you for free (if you replaced the CD's for them). I am sure you do as well. If not, I suggest giving your location (roughly) to the list to see if there is someone near you who is willing to burn you a copy of 9.0. From there, simply upgrade the kernel to the cooker one (it works, I know, I run Cooker at home) and you're all set. I see what you As I understood it (and experienced it) some people were having no problems with the 9.0 kernel but there were a large number who found supermount partially or totally borked and had to disable it. Were you among this contingent? If so, are you saying the Cooker kernel fixes the supermount problem? I also have a usb wireless device. Under the 9.0 kernel, it was unreliable and prone to lockups (the device, not the system). If I can be reasonably assured that 1) supermount is now fixed in the Cooker kernel and 2) usb is updated, then I would consider going with a full 9.0 and immediately update to the Cooker kernel. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
On Sunday 15 December 2002 05:15 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: > Ok, I'm with you now. I know plenty of people who have 9.0 and would > burn it for you for free (if you replaced the CD's for them). I am sure > you do as well. If not, I suggest giving your location (roughly) to the > list to see if there is someone near you who is willing to burn you a > copy of 9.0. From there, simply upgrade the kernel to the cooker one (it > works, I know, I run Cooker at home) and you're all set. I see what you As I understood it (and experienced it) some people were having no problems with the 9.0 kernel but there were a large number who found supermount partially or totally borked and had to disable it. Were you among this contingent? If so, are you saying the Cooker kernel fixes the supermount problem? I also have a usb wireless device. Under the 9.0 kernel, it was unreliable and prone to lockups (the device, not the system). If I can be reasonably assured that 1) supermount is now fixed in the Cooker kernel and 2) usb is updated, then I would consider going with a full 9.0 and immediately update to the Cooker kernel. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
Ok, I'm with you now. I know plenty of people who have 9.0 and would burn it for you for free (if you replaced the CD's for them). I am sure you do as well. If not, I suggest giving your location (roughly) to the list to see if there is someone near you who is willing to burn you a copy of 9.0. >From there, simply upgrade the kernel to the cooker one (it works, I know, I run Cooker at home) and you're all set. I see what you are trying to accomplish it is just that in my experience, trying to update *components* of a system, especially with such a big jump in Libs, GCC etc. is difficult and fails miserably. Wish you all the best anyway. Regards J Praedor Atrebates wrote: On Sunday 15 December 2002 16:13, Jason Greenwood wrote: Ok, I offer 2 possible solutions for you then. Download the 9.0 ISO's for free (or have them burned to CD by someone you know who already has them) and upgrade the lot (or just upgrade KDE by adding the 3 9.0 CD's as sources in URPMI). Download the (Cooker) KDE RPM's via RPMdrake, and then satisfy the dependencies the same way. I just don't understand why you can't do the downloads (for free) that you need instead of going through the hassle of compiling something that requires vastly different libs etc. than the system you are currently running. Just my .0002c worth. This all started when I noticed that kde 3.0.3 wasn't working properly on my desktop (the problems with konqueror and javascript and any and all netscape plugins). On my laptop kde 3.0.3 works perfectly fine. Both systems are running 8.2. I cannot do the iso download because I am stuck with a 56k dialup with a time limit per call (university rules). There is NO proper option for broadband that would make downloading ISOs and whatnot doable. If not for the kernel problems with 9.0 I would be quite happy buying the boxed set to make it easy but the kernel IS defective vs 8.2 (supermount is important and I had nothing but problems with usb devices with it as well when I tried the 2.4.19 kernel). While writing this, my latest attempt at kdemultimedia succeeded...but not the rpm. I installed the src rpm and tried several times to build the rpm. Nope. I then did my last option in such cases and went right to the /usr/src/RPM/BUILD directory and did an old-fashioned ./configure && make && make install in the kdemultimedia directory. More often than not, if an rpm fails to build due to some (usually) bogus error, building the source directly works. This would appear to indicate a defect in the spec (or other?) rpm-specific config. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
On Sunday 15 December 2002 16:13, Jason Greenwood wrote: > Ok, I offer 2 possible solutions for you then. Download the 9.0 ISO's > for free (or have them burned to CD by someone you know who already has > them) and upgrade the lot (or just upgrade KDE by adding the 3 9.0 CD's > as sources in URPMI). Download the (Cooker) KDE RPM's via RPMdrake, and > then satisfy the dependencies the same way. I just don't understand why > you can't do the downloads (for free) that you need instead of going > through the hassle of compiling something that requires vastly different > libs etc. than the system you are currently running. Just my .0002c worth. This all started when I noticed that kde 3.0.3 wasn't working properly on my desktop (the problems with konqueror and javascript and any and all netscape plugins). On my laptop kde 3.0.3 works perfectly fine. Both systems are running 8.2. I cannot do the iso download because I am stuck with a 56k dialup with a time limit per call (university rules). There is NO proper option for broadband that would make downloading ISOs and whatnot doable. If not for the kernel problems with 9.0 I would be quite happy buying the boxed set to make it easy but the kernel IS defective vs 8.2 (supermount is important and I had nothing but problems with usb devices with it as well when I tried the 2.4.19 kernel). While writing this, my latest attempt at kdemultimedia succeeded...but not the rpm. I installed the src rpm and tried several times to build the rpm. Nope. I then did my last option in such cases and went right to the /usr/src/RPM/BUILD directory and did an old-fashioned ./configure && make && make install in the kdemultimedia directory. More often than not, if an rpm fails to build due to some (usually) bogus error, building the source directly works. This would appear to indicate a defect in the spec (or other?) rpm-specific config. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
Ok, I offer 2 possible solutions for you then. Download the 9.0 ISO's for free (or have them burned to CD by someone you know who already has them) and upgrade the lot (or just upgrade KDE by adding the 3 9.0 CD's as sources in URPMI). Download the (Cooker) KDE RPM's via RPMdrake, and then satisfy the dependencies the same way. I just don't understand why you can't do the downloads (for free) that you need instead of going through the hassle of compiling something that requires vastly different libs etc. than the system you are currently running. Just my .0002c worth. Regards J Praedor Atrebates wrote: On Sunday 15 December 2002 15:37, Jason Greenwood wrote: Just wondering why you don't use the pre-built mdk RPM?? Wouldn't it be easier?? Cheers Hello, I cannot use the prebuilts because I am not running MDK 9.0. I am still using 8.2 so I must rebuild for my system. It seems rather ridiculous for me to shell out for 9.0 just so I can have a working KDE 3 but have to go back to the 8.2 kernel in order to retain functionality (usb, supermount). I tried the 9.0 kernel for a while (built like all my kernels for years) and it was too borked for me to tolerate it so I went back to the 2.4.18 kernel. It seems more reasonable to stick with 8.2 until 9.1 comes out with a, presumably, bug-fixed kernel. Thus, I must build kde 3 myself as the prebuilts are based on the wrong glibc. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
On Sunday 15 December 2002 15:37, Jason Greenwood wrote: > Just wondering why you don't use the pre-built mdk RPM?? Wouldn't it be > easier?? > > Cheers Hello, I cannot use the prebuilts because I am not running MDK 9.0. I am still using 8.2 so I must rebuild for my system. It seems rather ridiculous for me to shell out for 9.0 just so I can have a working KDE 3 but have to go back to the 8.2 kernel in order to retain functionality (usb, supermount). I tried the 9.0 kernel for a while (built like all my kernels for years) and it was too borked for me to tolerate it so I went back to the 2.4.18 kernel. It seems more reasonable to stick with 8.2 until 9.1 comes out with a, presumably, bug-fixed kernel. Thus, I must build kde 3 myself as the prebuilts are based on the wrong glibc. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
Just wondering why you don't use the pre-built mdk RPM?? Wouldn't it be easier?? Cheers J Praedor Atrebates wrote: I have been trying and trying and trying to build a functional KDE 3 system for days now. I have tried with mandrake 3.0.3, 3.0.4, and 3.0.5 src rpms and have managed with varying success to get most of kde built. The latest problem is that though I have gotten ALL src rpms built except kdemultimedia, it is this last one that adamantly refuses to build. I have met ALL dependencies for it yet with 3.0.3-7mdk., 3.0.4-1mdk, and 3.0.5-1mdk it fails with the same messages: mixer_alsa.cpp:108: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:109: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:110: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:110: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:109: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:110: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:111: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:111: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:110: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:111: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:112: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:112: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:111: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:112: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:113: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:113: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:112: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:113: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:114: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:114: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:113: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:114: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:115: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:115: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:114: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:115: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:116: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:116: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:115: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:116: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:117: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:117: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:116: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:117: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp: In method `int Mixer_ALSA::openMixer ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:132: `snd_defaults_mixer_card' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:133: `snd_defaults_mixer_device' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/include/alsa/mixer.h:84: too many arguments to function `int snd_mixer_open (snd_mixer_t **, int)' mixer_alsa.cpp:136: at this point in file mixer_alsa.cpp:141: `snd_mixer_groups' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:145: `snd_mixer_gid_t' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:145: parse error before `)' mixer_alsa.cpp:154: `gid' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:157: `snd_mixer_group_t' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:157: parse error before `;' mixer_alsa.cpp:158: `group' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:160: `snd_mixer_group_read' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:169: `SND_MIXER_GRPCAP_VOLUME' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:173: `SND_MIXER_GRPCAP_CAPTURE' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:198: `snd_mixer_info_t' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:198: parse error before `;' mixer_alsa.cpp:199: `info' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:199: `snd_mixer_info' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:205: confused by earlier errors, bailing out make[3]: *** [kmix_panelapplet_la.all_cpp.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdemultimedia-3.0.5/kmix' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdemult
[expert] I am in KDE HELL
I have been trying and trying and trying to build a functional KDE 3 system for days now. I have tried with mandrake 3.0.3, 3.0.4, and 3.0.5 src rpms and have managed with varying success to get most of kde built. The latest problem is that though I have gotten ALL src rpms built except kdemultimedia, it is this last one that adamantly refuses to build. I have met ALL dependencies for it yet with 3.0.3-7mdk., 3.0.4-1mdk, and 3.0.5-1mdk it fails with the same messages: mixer_alsa.cpp:108: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:109: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:110: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:110: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:109: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:110: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:111: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:111: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:110: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:111: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:112: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:112: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:111: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:112: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:113: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:113: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:112: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:113: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:114: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:114: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:113: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:114: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:115: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:115: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:114: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:115: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:116: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:116: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:115: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:116: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:117: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:117: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:116: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:117: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp: In method `int Mixer_ALSA::openMixer ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:132: `snd_defaults_mixer_card' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:133: `snd_defaults_mixer_device' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/include/alsa/mixer.h:84: too many arguments to function `int snd_mixer_open (snd_mixer_t **, int)' mixer_alsa.cpp:136: at this point in file mixer_alsa.cpp:141: `snd_mixer_groups' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:145: `snd_mixer_gid_t' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:145: parse error before `)' mixer_alsa.cpp:154: `gid' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:157: `snd_mixer_group_t' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:157: parse error before `;' mixer_alsa.cpp:158: `group' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:160: `snd_mixer_group_read' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:169: `SND_MIXER_GRPCAP_VOLUME' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:173: `SND_MIXER_GRPCAP_CAPTURE' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:198: `snd_mixer_info_t' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:198: parse error before `;' mixer_alsa.cpp:199: `info' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:199: `snd_mixer_info' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:205: confused by earlier errors, bailing out make[3]: *** [kmix_panelapplet_la.all_cpp.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdemultimedia-3.0.5/kmix' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdemultimedia-3.0.5/kmix' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdemultimedia-3.0.5' m