Re: [expert] I don't know how to head this

2003-08-23 Thread Ron Stodden
Anne,

If any message submitted to sympa contains any of the magic mailing list 
commands like submit cancel, remove, it will be dropped.

Anne Wilson wrote:

because sympa appears to bounce my efforts to raise the problem.

I am posting messages to the lists that never get through.  On the 
15th I posted 3 to the expert list and only one got through.  On the 
14th 1 out of 4 appeared (and this is embarrassing because it looks 
as though you can't be bothered to answer those who try to help you).  
On the 17th I posted a message to the list headed 'What the ...' 
raising the problem, but sympa bounced it, saying that it appeared to 
contain commands.  In the bounce message there is an invitation to 
reply to sympa-request if you are not satisfied. I did that, but I've 
heard nothing and the message was not released to the list.

This week, Tuesday was ok.  Wednesday, all my messages to expert got 
through, but only 6/8 to newbie.  On Thursday 11/12 to expert got 
through and 1/4 to newbie.

Has anyone any idea what is going on, and what, if anything, I can do 
about it.

Anne

 



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Re: [expert] I don't know how to head this

2003-08-23 Thread Todd Lyons
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Anne Wilson wanted us to know:

contain commands.  In the bounce message there is an invitation to 
reply to sympa-request if you are not satisfied. I did that, but I've 
heard nothing and the message was not released to the list.

I'm a list admin for the expert and cooker lists.  I don't see your
request having come through.  All of my posts go through, so I'm
assuming that it's a transport problem and not a problem with the
server.  Note that I'm just a list admin, I don't have admin priveleges
on the actual machine that does the mail.  I'll keep watching for any
hiccups though.
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[expert] I don't know how to head this

2003-08-22 Thread Anne Wilson
because sympa appears to bounce my efforts to raise the problem.

I am posting messages to the lists that never get through.  On the 
15th I posted 3 to the expert list and only one got through.  On the 
14th 1 out of 4 appeared (and this is embarrassing because it looks 
as though you can't be bothered to answer those who try to help you).  
On the 17th I posted a message to the list headed 'What the ...' 
raising the problem, but sympa bounced it, saying that it appeared to 
contain commands.  In the bounce message there is an invitation to 
reply to sympa-request if you are not satisfied. I did that, but I've 
heard nothing and the message was not released to the list.

This week, Tuesday was ok.  Wednesday, all my messages to expert got 
through, but only 6/8 to newbie.  On Thursday 11/12 to expert got 
through and 1/4 to newbie.

Has anyone any idea what is going on, and what, if anything, I can do 
about it.

Anne

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Re: [expert] I don't know how to head this

2003-08-22 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Freitag, 22. August 2003 11:35 schrieb Anne Wilson:
 because sympa appears to bounce my efforts to raise the problem.

I don't know who said that initially, but I could say this every day: 
Sympa sucks!

[... missing mails ]

Anne that is on all mandrake lists. It is really annoying. I'm on 
expert-en, expert-de, newbie-de cooker and cooker-i18n. on 4 of the 5 
lists I had this problem. I don't think that they do not know about it. 
And I don't know who is responsible. 

 Has anyone any idea what is going on, and what, if anything, I can do
 about it.

Maybe Sobig.F gets the servers down ? For me it looks like a server 
overload. Some mails take several hours to make it trough, some mails 
never do come trough, some mails are in the archiv but only half the 
people got it, some mails don't come trough at all. 
I got 40 Mails from cooker an 90% of that were bugzilla mails. that does 
not sound right to me either (knowing that there were 700+ Mails in pre 
9.1 Cooker over a day) . Lets hope they get it fixed soon :(

Steffen



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Re: [expert] I don't know how to head this

2003-08-22 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 22 Aug 2003 12:36 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote:
 Am Freitag, 22. August 2003 11:35 schrieb Anne Wilson:
  because sympa appears to bounce my efforts to raise the problem.

 I don't know who said that initially, but I could say this every
 day: Sympa sucks!

 [... missing mails ]

 Anne that is on all mandrake lists. It is really annoying. I'm on
 expert-en, expert-de, newbie-de cooker and cooker-i18n. on 4 of the
 5 lists I had this problem. I don't think that they do not know
 about it. And I don't know who is responsible.

  Has anyone any idea what is going on, and what, if anything, I
  can do about it.

 Maybe Sobig.F gets the servers down ? For me it looks like a server
 overload. Some mails take several hours to make it trough, some
 mails never do come trough, some mails are in the archiv but only
 half the people got it, some mails don't come trough at all.
 I got 40 Mails from cooker an 90% of that were bugzilla mails. that
 does not sound right to me either (knowing that there were 700+
 Mails in pre 9.1 Cooker over a day) . Lets hope they get it fixed
 soon :(

 Steffen

There has to be a reason that they stick with Sympa, when everyone 
else seems to have changed to Mailman.  I had hoped that the recent 
server upgrade would get rid of the problem for us, but obviously 
not.

Anne

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RE: [expert] I don't know how to head this

2003-08-22 Thread Frankie
I doubt it is sobig.. at least that would not take mandrakes sympa down
since it will not accept any mail from sobig machines because their dns
would not be setup properly..

Heck, its hard enough to get legit mail onto this list, let alone prefab
smtp engines of virus's..

I am on the wget list, and we had a head of sobig.F virus mail come
through, (without their attachments.)

I suspect that Sobig.F is the worst mailing virus every in terms of
prevalence.

rgsd

Franki

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Am Freitag, 22. August 2003 11:35 schrieb Anne Wilson:
 because sympa appears to bounce my efforts to raise the problem.

I don't know who said that initially, but I could say this every day:
Sympa sucks!

[... missing mails ]

Anne that is on all mandrake lists. It is really annoying. I'm on
expert-en, expert-de, newbie-de cooker and cooker-i18n. on 4 of the 5
lists I had this problem. I don't think that they do not know about it.
And I don't know who is responsible.

 Has anyone any idea what is going on, and what, if anything, I can do
 about it.

Maybe Sobig.F gets the servers down ? For me it looks like a server
overload. Some mails take several hours to make it trough, some mails
never do come trough, some mails are in the archiv but only half the
people got it, some mails don't come trough at all.
I got 40 Mails from cooker an 90% of that were bugzilla mails. that does
not sound right to me either (knowing that there were 700+ Mails in pre
9.1 Cooker over a day) . Lets hope they get it fixed soon :(

Steffen






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Re: [expert] I don't know how to head this

2003-08-22 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:36:24 +0200
Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maybe Sobig.F gets the servers down ? For me it looks like a server 
 overload. Some mails take several hours to make it trough, some mails 
 never do come trough, some mails are in the archiv but only half the 
 people got it, some mails don't come trough at all. 
 I got 40 Mails from cooker an 90% of that were bugzilla mails. that
 does not sound right to me either (knowing that there were 700+ Mails
 in pre 9.1 Cooker over a day) . Lets hope they get it fixed soon :(


To add to the problem/strangeness
I run multiple systems on my home lan and use sylpheed-claws on all
system.
Mail is set to remain on server for 2 days before it is deleted.
There have been occasions where I have sent postings to some list or
other and it never appears on my main system.
But if I go to 1 of the 2ndary system and retrieve mail through it the
posting Does appear on that system.

Go figure...


Charles

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