was Re: [expert] IE6 masquerading - How to do it in Galeon?

2003-09-20 Thread Douglas Bainbridge
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 12:34, Douglas Bainbridge wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 17:43, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: 

> > 
> > -Type in "about:config" in the address bar.
> > -Right click on "Preference Name" and choose New => String
> > -Enter "general.useragent.override" as the name.
> > -Enter "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)" as the string.
> > -Restart Mozilla and you're done.
> > 
> > I hope that's the final revision. :-)
> 
> Thanks, Brant and all the others.
> I'll try this final version.
> 
> DougB

That appears to be working with Mozilla 1.4.

It looks as though I ought to be able to do the same in Galeon -
about:config brings up the preferences.
There is already a general.useragent.override entry present

"Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686) Gecko/20030630 Galeon/1.3.5".

After 'Modify'ing the String to 

"Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686) Gecko/20030630 Galeon/1.3.5
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)"

this works also; but on re-loading Galeon, I find the String back where
it was before.

How do I get to save the change? 

TIA,

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Re: [expert] IE6 masquerading

2003-09-20 Thread Douglas Bainbridge
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 17:43, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: 
> James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 12:41, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> > 
> >>Douglas Bainbridge wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>A particular website I want to access insists on IE6 (or just possibly




> Revised again:
> 
> -Type in "about:config" in the address bar.
> -Right click on "Preference Name" and choose New => String
> -Enter "general.useragent.override" as the name.
> -Enter "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)" as the string.
> -Restart Mozilla and you're done.
> 
> I hope that's the final revision. :-)

Thanks, Brant and all the others.
I'll try this final version.

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Re: [expert] IE6 masquerading

2003-09-19 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
James Sparenberg wrote:
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 12:41, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

Douglas Bainbridge wrote:

Hi,
A particular website I want to access insists on IE6 (or just possibly
it may be satisfied with Netscape Navigator 6), reckoning this is needed
for 128-bit encryption of contributions. 
I think there's been some discussion about Opera masquerading as IE6,
but is it possible to set Galeon (1.3.3) to masquerade, or failing that,
Konq?

TIA
DougB
Yes there is.  I posted this on the newbie list a couple of weeks ago 
and it looks like it would apply here also.

Here's the trick for Mozilla:

-Type in "about:config" in the address bar.
-Right click on "Preference Name" and choose New => String
-Enter "general.useragent.override" as the name.
-Enter "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)" or "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)" as the string.
-Restart Mozilla and you're done.


Brant,
   I'm running 1.4 here and ran into a problem.  If I used this string,
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
I got an error saying
"INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Expected a version > 5! Version = 4"
So I switched to 

Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) and mozilla is able
to start just fine.
James
Noted.

Revised again:

-Type in "about:config" in the address bar.
-Right click on "Preference Name" and choose New => String
-Enter "general.useragent.override" as the name.
-Enter "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)" as the string.
-Restart Mozilla and you're done.
I hope that's the final revision. :-)

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Re: [expert] IE6 masquerading

2003-09-19 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 12:41, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> Douglas Bainbridge wrote:
> > Hi,
> > A particular website I want to access insists on IE6 (or just possibly
> > it may be satisfied with Netscape Navigator 6), reckoning this is needed
> > for 128-bit encryption of contributions. 
> > I think there's been some discussion about Opera masquerading as IE6,
> > but is it possible to set Galeon (1.3.3) to masquerade, or failing that,
> > Konq?
> > 
> > TIA
> > DougB
> 
> Yes there is.  I posted this on the newbie list a couple of weeks ago 
> and it looks like it would apply here also.
> 
> Here's the trick for Mozilla:
> 
> -Type in "about:config" in the address bar.
> -Right click on "Preference Name" and choose New => String
> -Enter "general.useragent.override" as the name.
> -Enter "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)" or "Mozilla/4.0 
> (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)" as the string.
> -Restart Mozilla and you're done.


Brant,
   I'm running 1.4 here and ran into a problem.  If I used this string,
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)

I got an error saying
"INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Expected a version > 5! Version = 4"

So I switched to 

Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) and mozilla is able
to start just fine.

James

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Re: [expert] IE6 masquerading

2003-09-18 Thread Paul
> > Can't get that to work on Mozilla 1.4  right click does nothing. 
> > However with 1.4 if I click in the body of the "page" I can get it to
> > allow the edit.  Now If I can just get Mozilla to start back up I'll
> > test it out *grin*
> > 
> > James
> 
> I'll change it to reflect that in the future.  It did that to me when I 
> was testing it out, but it didn't do it every time.  I'm not quite sure 
> what the magic sequence was to get it to work as I explained it, but 
> what you stated is a more repeatable way to do it.
> 
> Revised:
> 
> -Type in "about:config" in the address bar.
> -Right click just below "Preference Name" and choose New => String
> -Enter "general.useragent.override" as the name.
> -Enter "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)" or "Mozilla/4.0 
> (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)" as the string.
> -Restart Mozilla and you're done.
> 
> Is that any better?

I found the same as James, clicked on preferences - nothing. Went onto
do as you both describe and - *no* Mozilla.

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Re[2]: [expert] IE6 masquerading

2003-09-18 Thread rikona
Hello Anne,

Thursday, September 18, 2003, 4:59:25 AM, you wrote:

AW> Philosophically, I hate the idea of masquerading - I don't want to
AW> be though to be using IE, but I recognise that it's sometimes
AW> necessary.

I hate it too, but for another reason. I've had the discussion "why
not support other browsers" with a number of sites. They all say that
95% (or some high number) are IE users, and they can't justify working
to allow others. Part of the problem is those who are not really using
IE at all, but trying to look like IE. Distorts the statistics rather
badly.

It's getting worse, too. Many sites are now using scripts to ID the
browser, and M$ is apparently helping develop some commercial ones
too.

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Re: [expert] IE6 masquerading

2003-09-18 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
James Sparenberg wrote:
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 12:41, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

Douglas Bainbridge wrote:

Hi,
A particular website I want to access insists on IE6 (or just possibly
it may be satisfied with Netscape Navigator 6), reckoning this is needed
for 128-bit encryption of contributions. 
I think there's been some discussion about Opera masquerading as IE6,
but is it possible to set Galeon (1.3.3) to masquerade, or failing that,
Konq?

TIA
DougB
Yes there is.  I posted this on the newbie list a couple of weeks ago 
and it looks like it would apply here also.

Here's the trick for Mozilla:

-Type in "about:config" in the address bar.
-Right click on "Preference Name" and choose New => String
-Enter "general.useragent.override" as the name.
-Enter "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)" or "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)" as the string.
-Restart Mozilla and you're done.


Can't get that to work on Mozilla 1.4  right click does nothing. 
However with 1.4 if I click in the body of the "page" I can get it to
allow the edit.  Now If I can just get Mozilla to start back up I'll
test it out *grin*

James
I'll change it to reflect that in the future.  It did that to me when I 
was testing it out, but it didn't do it every time.  I'm not quite sure 
what the magic sequence was to get it to work as I explained it, but 
what you stated is a more repeatable way to do it.

Revised:

-Type in "about:config" in the address bar.
-Right click just below "Preference Name" and choose New => String
-Enter "general.useragent.override" as the name.
-Enter "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)" or "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)" as the string.
-Restart Mozilla and you're done.

Is that any better?

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Re: [expert] IE6 masquerading

2003-09-18 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 12:41, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> Douglas Bainbridge wrote:
> > Hi,
> > A particular website I want to access insists on IE6 (or just possibly
> > it may be satisfied with Netscape Navigator 6), reckoning this is needed
> > for 128-bit encryption of contributions. 
> > I think there's been some discussion about Opera masquerading as IE6,
> > but is it possible to set Galeon (1.3.3) to masquerade, or failing that,
> > Konq?
> > 
> > TIA
> > DougB
> 
> Yes there is.  I posted this on the newbie list a couple of weeks ago 
> and it looks like it would apply here also.
> 
> Here's the trick for Mozilla:
> 
> -Type in "about:config" in the address bar.
> -Right click on "Preference Name" and choose New => String
> -Enter "general.useragent.override" as the name.
> -Enter "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)" or "Mozilla/4.0 
> (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)" as the string.
> -Restart Mozilla and you're done.


Can't get that to work on Mozilla 1.4  right click does nothing. 
However with 1.4 if I click in the body of the "page" I can get it to
allow the edit.  Now If I can just get Mozilla to start back up I'll
test it out *grin*

James

> 


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Re: [expert] IE6 masquerading

2003-09-18 Thread Dick Gevers
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:59:25 +0100, Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote about Re: [expert] IE6 masquerading:

>> Yes, Under Konqueror, Settings, Browser Identification.
>
>Philosophically, I hate the idea of masquerading - I don't want to be 
>though to be using IE, but I recognise that it's sometimes necessary.  
>What would be nice is to be able to set a profile that uses the 
>masquerading, while all others don't, but I guess that isn't 
>possible.  Still, one could always use one browser when masquerading 
>is necessary and another for the default browser.

Though I usually employ Mozilla for surfing, I find the Konqueror way of
masquerading by far the easiest: it can be setup and stored per site and it
fools even Microsoft: I haven`t convinced my kids yet to use Linux all the
time and I regularly get updates from Microsoft for them. Konqueror is very
good for that. (BTW it does not require KDE to be running). 

But on this list or another one I read recently that some interactive
banking programmes are not fooled by masquerading, so YMMV.

HTH
Regards,
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Re: [expert] IE6 masquerading

2003-09-18 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Douglas Bainbridge wrote:
Hi,
A particular website I want to access insists on IE6 (or just possibly
it may be satisfied with Netscape Navigator 6), reckoning this is needed
for 128-bit encryption of contributions. 
I think there's been some discussion about Opera masquerading as IE6,
but is it possible to set Galeon (1.3.3) to masquerade, or failing that,
Konq?

TIA
DougB
Yes there is.  I posted this on the newbie list a couple of weeks ago 
and it looks like it would apply here also.

Here's the trick for Mozilla:

-Type in "about:config" in the address bar.
-Right click on "Preference Name" and choose New => String
-Enter "general.useragent.override" as the name.
-Enter "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)" or "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)" as the string.
-Restart Mozilla and you're done.

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Re: [expert] IE6 masquerading

2003-09-18 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 18 Sep 2003 11:47 am, Bryan Phinney wrote:
> On Thursday 18 September 2003 05:27 am, Douglas Bainbridge wrote:
> > Hi,
> > A particular website I want to access insists on IE6 (or just
> > possibly it may be satisfied with Netscape Navigator 6),
> > reckoning this is needed for 128-bit encryption of contributions.
> > I think there's been some discussion about Opera masquerading as
> > IE6, but is it possible to set Galeon (1.3.3) to masquerade, or
> > failing that, Konq?
>
> Yes, Under Konqueror, Settings, Browser Identification.

Philosophically, I hate the idea of masquerading - I don't want to be 
though to be using IE, but I recognise that it's sometimes necessary.  
What would be nice is to be able to set a profile that uses the 
masquerading, while all others don't, but I guess that isn't 
possible.  Still, one could always use one browser when masquerading 
is necessary and another for the default browser.

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Re: [expert] IE6 masquerading

2003-09-18 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 18 September 2003 05:27 am, Douglas Bainbridge wrote:
> Hi,
> A particular website I want to access insists on IE6 (or just possibly
> it may be satisfied with Netscape Navigator 6), reckoning this is needed
> for 128-bit encryption of contributions.
> I think there's been some discussion about Opera masquerading as IE6,
> but is it possible to set Galeon (1.3.3) to masquerade, or failing that,
> Konq?

Yes, Under Konqueror, Settings, Browser Identification.

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[expert] IE6 masquerading

2003-09-18 Thread Douglas Bainbridge
Hi,
A particular website I want to access insists on IE6 (or just possibly
it may be satisfied with Netscape Navigator 6), reckoning this is needed
for 128-bit encryption of contributions. 
I think there's been some discussion about Opera masquerading as IE6,
but is it possible to set Galeon (1.3.3) to masquerade, or failing that,
Konq?

TIA
DougB


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