Re: [expert] Mobo query
I agree- I run only Crucial on all my boxes. I've never had a ram problem in all these years, and if you like to overclock, Crucial always does great. But if Anne has cheapo pc100 on the old cyrix/ibm box, it probably won't cut it with a PC133 board. Robert C. On Tuesday 01 April 2003 04:34 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Tuesday April 1 2003 03:09 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:43:06 -0500 > > > > Robert Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It appears you > > > will need PC133 SDRAM, and I'll bet your other cyrix/IBM has > > > PC100 at best. > > > > If it is "good" PC100 from a reputable company such as Crucial or > > others it can be run at 133. > > I have several stick th no problem. > > > > > > Charles > > For sure, I've got an anicent stick of 128MB Mosel Vitelic 8ns > cas2 'pc100' ram running with two other Crucial sticks. All at cas2, > 4 bank-interleaving at 135mhz. Won't do 137 tho, without errors :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mobo query
On Tuesday April 1 2003 03:09 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:43:06 -0500 > > Robert Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It appears you > > will need PC133 SDRAM, and I'll bet your other cyrix/IBM has > > PC100 at best. > > If it is "good" PC100 from a reputable company such as Crucial or > others it can be run at 133. > I have several stick th no problem. > > > Charles For sure, I've got an anicent stick of 128MB Mosel Vitelic 8ns cas2 'pc100' ram running with two other Crucial sticks. All at cas2, 4 bank-interleaving at 135mhz. Won't do 137 tho, without errors :) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mobo query
On Tuesday 01 Apr 2003 10:09 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:43:06 -0500 > > Robert Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It appears you > > will need PC133 SDRAM, and I'll bet your other cyrix/IBM has PC100 at > > best. > > If it is "good" PC100 from a reputable company such as Crucial or others > it can be run at 133. > I have several stick th no problem. > > > Charles I'll try it first, but replace if there's any doubt. Thanks, Charles. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mobo query
On Monday 31 Mar 2003 9:43 pm, Robert Crawford wrote: > Here's a link to what I believe is that board/cpu you mention. It appears > you will need PC133 SDRAM, and I'll bet your other cyrix/IBM has PC100 at > best. You might need a better Power Supply- at least 250watts, but some > smaller ones will work, if the output on the 5v and 3volt lines is > adequate- you never know, but since it's a low power board, you might get > away with it. However, I would bet that any retail cyrix/ibm rig is going > to have an el cheapo power supply. > My SDRAM is fairly recent, though I can't remember exactly what it is. I generally buy branded memory, so I would expect it to work, if not at optimal. I hve a spare 300w power supply that could be swapped in. > htttp://www.pcchips.com.tw/product/M787cl+v30.html > This could well be the mobo, though it's difficult to be certain. > I built a box for a person using a PChips SIS board with that AMR slot, and > could never get the onboard modem to work, with the drivers that came with > the board, or ones I got on the net. Had to use a PCI modem- cost about $10 > more. I have adsl over lan, so that's no problem, either. > Also, it will use some of the ram for video (settable), so that's a > consideration. Well, if the existing stick isn't big enough, at least memory is cheap. Against that, if I were going for an up to date system I would be buying DDR, and would need to replace all of it. > Otherwise, it worked good, and since performance is not your > real issue, I guess it would suffice for your needs. A good stick of 256MB > PC133 shouldn't be more that $30 US, and you could sell your 128MB (if it's > PC100). > > Mandrake will do much better with 256MB or more ram, especially if you > like KDE or Gnome. Robert, I appreciate your comments. It looks as though this would be a sensible buy for a second box with relatively low processing requirements. All that remains is to hope that he's at the computer fair in Sheffield next weekend, and hasn't sold them all. Thanks Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mobo query
On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:43:06 -0500 Robert Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It appears you > will need PC133 SDRAM, and I'll bet your other cyrix/IBM has PC100 at > best. If it is "good" PC100 from a reputable company such as Crucial or others it can be run at 133. I have several stick th no problem. Charles -- QOTD: "I tried buying a goat instead of a lawn tractor; had to return it though. Couldn't figure out a way to connect the snow blower." - Mandrake Linux 9.1 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.13mdk - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Mobo query
Here's a link to what I believe is that board/cpu you mention. It appears you will need PC133 SDRAM, and I'll bet your other cyrix/IBM has PC100 at best. You might need a better Power Supply- at least 250watts, but some smaller ones will work, if the output on the 5v and 3volt lines is adequate- you never know, but since it's a low power board, you might get away with it. However, I would bet that any retail cyrix/ibm rig is going to have an el cheapo power supply. htttp://www.pcchips.com.tw/product/M787cl+v30.html I built a box for a person using a PChips SIS board with that AMR slot, and could never get the onboard modem to work, with the drivers that came with the board, or ones I got on the net. Had to use a PCI modem- cost about $10 more. Also, it will use some of the ram for video (settable), so that's a consideration. Otherwise, it worked good, and since performance is not your real issue, I guess it would suffice for your needs. A good stick of 256MB PC133 shouldn't be more that $30 US, and you could sell your 128MB (if it's PC100). Mandrake will do much better with 256MB or more ram, especially if you like KDE or Gnome. Robert On Monday 31 March 2003 04:24 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > Greg and Robert - hope you don't mind me answering both together. > > It's very difficult to find information on the web about the M787CLM, but > there is a reasonable amount on the M787CLR - and I'm assuming that they > are similar. Little is said about the chipset, but the indications are > that it is a via chipset. > > This proposed upgrade is not to make it my main box. I have an old > IBM/Cyrix 233 setup that I want to use as a second box, with dual boot > win98 and Mdk 9. The main purpose is to learn about adding another linux > computer to my lan, and also to explore video conferencing, over the lan, > both in the mixed os environment and in an all-linux link. > > I accept that the speed of the C3 will not give the best video, but that's > not important, as it is the learning process that's the important bit. I > can't justify spending a huge amount on this project. > > The mobo takes DIMMs, and I have a 126MB DIMM in the old system, so memory > should be no problem. > > As it is low-powered it may not be essential to buy a new case, but I think > it would be wise, though I have an atx power supply that could be mounted > in the current one. I can't see that anything else would be needed. > > The processor, though called a GigaPro, apparently equates to a celeron, > which is ok for this box, I think. 3D work would tax it, but it would > rarely be asked to do that. It seems that this cpu is used a lot in the > small embedded boards. I have seen a report of a successful Debian > install, so it looks likely that it would be OK for my purposes. > > There is not guarantee that I will be able to get one of these, as the guy > was offering them at a local computer fair, and he may have sold out before > I can find him again, but if I have heard nothing really offputting before > then I shall buy one next time he is nearby - 2 weeks time. > > Anne > > On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 5:25 am, Robert Crawford wrote: > > That mobo might not even have SDRAM, much less DDR. You will probably > > need new ram, whatever you do- which isn't too bad, since it's dirt cheap > > these days. You should be able to use everything else, except probably > > you'll need a better power supply. You need to do more research as to the > > ram and power supply you have, and post it so we can advise properly. > > Maybe post the exact model of Cyrix/IBM you have now, and one of us can > > look it up and offer better advice- just don't be hasty, and make a > > mistake. You can put together a really good system, for very little > > money, if you know how. Any better mobo/cpu is going to require a better > > power supply, if your present system is what it sounds like. And, to get > > the best from any modern cpu, you really need DDR memory- SDRAM is on the > > way out. > > > > In any case, Mandrake will install and run on almost any halfway system. > > I would stay away from those via cpus, though. > > > > Robert Crawford > > > > On Sunday 30 March 2003 04:53 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > This is to replace the mobo in a box with a Cyrix/IBM cpu. Everything > > > in it is pretty old, and would have to be replaced if I rebuild from > > > scratch. From experience I would say that I would be pushing £500 to > > > get a full decent system together. If I buy this for £50 I can get > > > away by putting in the current drives and spending nothing else. But > > > will it run Mandrake? > > > > > > Anne > > > > > > On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 10:02 pm, Robert Crawford wrote: > > > > In my opinion, you can do much better for the same or just a little > > > > more money. I build all my own PC's, and for others, too. For > > > > example, in the U.S., you can get an Athlon 1700+ tbred "B" for $48 > > > > US, which is 3 times the cpu. Mobo
Re: [expert] Mobo query
On Monday 31 Mar 2003 2:29 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 13:53, Anne Wilson wrote: > > This is to replace the mobo in a box with a Cyrix/IBM cpu. Everything in > > it is pretty old, and would have to be replaced if I rebuild from > > scratch. From experience I would say that I would be pushing £500 to get > > a full decent system together. If I buy this for £50 I can get away by > > putting in the current drives and spending nothing else. But will it run > > Mandrake? > > > > Anne > > Anne, > > I've got a 733mhz Via C3 cpu on a second box here at home. The only > "problem" with it is the one mentioned in the MDK 9.0 errata. Otherwise > everything on the mobo came up and worked like a charm. I wouldn't use > this box for gaming but for everything else it compares nicely with an > equal Intel or AMD CPU. In fact it runs better under Linux than under > Win2000 so there's a plus. > Thank you James. It's looking good to go. I just hope he hasn't sold out by the time I can get to him. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mobo query
On Monday 31 Mar 2003 10:38 am, Joerg Mertin wrote: > Hi Anne, > > regarding mobo's. I had set up a Mobo on the Shuttle-Box SV24, very small > case, but very noisy (That's why I decomissioned it). The installed mobo > was a Spacewalker - VIA Chipset, with builtin Graphic-Chip etc. (Sorry - > only German Link: http://www.shuttle.com/german/sv24.htm#oben ). > > Shuttle had also own drivers for Graphic output etc. and X-Windows did > work without a problem. Everything worked like a charm. Don't think you > should have any problems. Of course - testing it out is the only garantee > you'll have. > Thank you Joerg. Google's translation might be pretty awful, but they usually give you an idea of what's being said. In the case of a mobo it can hardly go wrong . It's looking encouraging. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mobo query
Hi Anne, regarding mobo's. I had set up a Mobo on the Shuttle-Box SV24, very small case, but very noisy (That's why I decomissioned it). The installed mobo was a Spacewalker - VIA Chipset, with builtin Graphic-Chip etc. (Sorry - only German Link: http://www.shuttle.com/german/sv24.htm#oben ). Shuttle had also own drivers for Graphic output etc. and X-Windows did work without a problem. Everything worked like a charm. Don't think you should have any problems. Of course - testing it out is the only garantee you'll have. Cheers Joerg On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Anne Wilson wrote: > Greg and Robert - hope you don't mind me answering both together. > > It's very difficult to find information on the web about the M787CLM, but > there is a reasonable amount on the M787CLR - and I'm assuming that they are > similar. Little is said about the chipset, but the indications are that it > is a via chipset. > > This proposed upgrade is not to make it my main box. I have an old IBM/Cyrix > 233 setup that I want to use as a second box, with dual boot win98 and Mdk 9. > The main purpose is to learn about adding another linux computer to my lan, > and also to explore video conferencing, over the lan, both in the mixed os > environment and in an all-linux link. > > I accept that the speed of the C3 will not give the best video, but that's not > important, as it is the learning process that's the important bit. I can't > justify spending a huge amount on this project. > > The mobo takes DIMMs, and I have a 126MB DIMM in the old system, so memory > should be no problem. > > As it is low-powered it may not be essential to buy a new case, but I think it > would be wise, though I have an atx power supply that could be mounted in the > current one. I can't see that anything else would be needed. > > The processor, though called a GigaPro, apparently equates to a celeron, which > is ok for this box, I think. 3D work would tax it, but it would rarely be > asked to do that. It seems that this cpu is used a lot in the small embedded > boards. I have seen a report of a successful Debian install, so it looks > likely that it would be OK for my purposes. > > There is not guarantee that I will be able to get one of these, as the guy was > offering them at a local computer fair, and he may have sold out before I can > find him again, but if I have heard nothing really offputting before then I > shall buy one next time he is nearby - 2 weeks time. > > Anne > On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 5:25 am, Robert Crawford wrote: > > That mobo might not even have SDRAM, much less DDR. You will probably need > > new ram, whatever you do- which isn't too bad, since it's dirt cheap these > > days. You should be able to use everything else, except probably you'll > > need a better power supply. You need to do more research as to the ram and > > power supply you have, and post it so we can advise properly. Maybe post > > the exact model of Cyrix/IBM you have now, and one of us can look it up and > > offer better advice- just don't be hasty, and make a mistake. You can put > > together a really good system, for very little money, if you know how. Any > > better mobo/cpu is going to require a better power supply, if your present > > system is what it sounds like. And, to get the best from any modern cpu, > > you really need DDR memory- SDRAM is on the way out. > > > > In any case, Mandrake will install and run on almost any halfway system. I > > would stay away from those via cpus, though. > > > > Robert Crawford > > > > On Sunday 30 March 2003 04:53 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > This is to replace the mobo in a box with a Cyrix/IBM cpu. Everything in > > > it is pretty old, and would have to be replaced if I rebuild from > > > scratch. From experience I would say that I would be pushing £500 to get > > > a full decent system together. If I buy this for £50 I can get away by > > > putting in the current drives and spending nothing else. But will it run > > > Mandrake? > > > > > > Anne > > > > > > On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 10:02 pm, Robert Crawford wrote: > > > > In my opinion, you can do much better for the same or just a little > > > > more money. I build all my own PC's, and for others, too. For example, > > > > in the U.S., you can get an Athlon 1700+ tbred "B" for $48 US, which is > > > > 3 times the cpu. Mobo/cpu combos run $80 and up- for instance a PC > > > > chips board/1700+ combo runs $81 US. It also depends on if you are > > > > planning on using the ram you have now. Do some research before buying > > > > something. Look on Pricewatch, and compare stuff to what you have now. > > > > For the price/performance, you can't beat the Athlon 1700+ Tbred "B," > > > > and it can be matched with many low priced boards which all work fine. > > > > > > > > Robert Crawford > > > > > > > > On Sunday 30 March 2003 02:38 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > > I have been offered a PCChips M787CLM mobo, 1GHz VIA C3 cpu, pretty > > > > >
Re: [expert] Mobo query
On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 13:53, Anne Wilson wrote: > This is to replace the mobo in a box with a Cyrix/IBM cpu. Everything in it > is pretty old, and would have to be replaced if I rebuild from scratch. From > experience I would say that I would be pushing £500 to get a full decent > system together. If I buy this for £50 I can get away by putting in the > current drives and spending nothing else. But will it run Mandrake? > > Anne Anne, I've got a 733mhz Via C3 cpu on a second box here at home. The only "problem" with it is the one mentioned in the MDK 9.0 errata. Otherwise everything on the mobo came up and worked like a charm. I wouldn't use this box for gaming but for everything else it compares nicely with an equal Intel or AMD CPU. In fact it runs better under Linux than under Win2000 so there's a plus. James > > On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 10:02 pm, Robert Crawford wrote: > > In my opinion, you can do much better for the same or just a little more > > money. I build all my own PC's, and for others, too. For example, in the > > U.S., you can get an Athlon 1700+ tbred "B" for $48 US, which is 3 times > > the cpu. Mobo/cpu combos run $80 and up- for instance a PC chips > > board/1700+ combo runs $81 US. It also depends on if you are planning on > > using the ram you have now. Do some research before buying something. Look > > on Pricewatch, and compare stuff to what you have now. For the > > price/performance, you can't beat the Athlon 1700+ Tbred "B," and it can be > > matched with many low priced boards which all work fine. > > > > Robert Crawford > > > > On Sunday 30 March 2003 02:38 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > I have been offered a PCChips M787CLM mobo, 1GHz VIA C3 cpu, pretty well > > > everything on board. I can't find anything on the web about this exact > > > model, but have seen a thread describing a Debian install on a related > > > model, and VIA C3 chips appear to be used in some of the new quiet small > > > boards that I have seen mentioned. > > > > > > Does anyone know anything, good, bad or indifferent, that would influence > > > me? They are asking £50, by the way. > > > > > > Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mobo query
Greg and Robert - hope you don't mind me answering both together. It's very difficult to find information on the web about the M787CLM, but there is a reasonable amount on the M787CLR - and I'm assuming that they are similar. Little is said about the chipset, but the indications are that it is a via chipset. This proposed upgrade is not to make it my main box. I have an old IBM/Cyrix 233 setup that I want to use as a second box, with dual boot win98 and Mdk 9. The main purpose is to learn about adding another linux computer to my lan, and also to explore video conferencing, over the lan, both in the mixed os environment and in an all-linux link. I accept that the speed of the C3 will not give the best video, but that's not important, as it is the learning process that's the important bit. I can't justify spending a huge amount on this project. The mobo takes DIMMs, and I have a 126MB DIMM in the old system, so memory should be no problem. As it is low-powered it may not be essential to buy a new case, but I think it would be wise, though I have an atx power supply that could be mounted in the current one. I can't see that anything else would be needed. The processor, though called a GigaPro, apparently equates to a celeron, which is ok for this box, I think. 3D work would tax it, but it would rarely be asked to do that. It seems that this cpu is used a lot in the small embedded boards. I have seen a report of a successful Debian install, so it looks likely that it would be OK for my purposes. There is not guarantee that I will be able to get one of these, as the guy was offering them at a local computer fair, and he may have sold out before I can find him again, but if I have heard nothing really offputting before then I shall buy one next time he is nearby - 2 weeks time. Anne On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 5:25 am, Robert Crawford wrote: > That mobo might not even have SDRAM, much less DDR. You will probably need > new ram, whatever you do- which isn't too bad, since it's dirt cheap these > days. You should be able to use everything else, except probably you'll > need a better power supply. You need to do more research as to the ram and > power supply you have, and post it so we can advise properly. Maybe post > the exact model of Cyrix/IBM you have now, and one of us can look it up and > offer better advice- just don't be hasty, and make a mistake. You can put > together a really good system, for very little money, if you know how. Any > better mobo/cpu is going to require a better power supply, if your present > system is what it sounds like. And, to get the best from any modern cpu, > you really need DDR memory- SDRAM is on the way out. > > In any case, Mandrake will install and run on almost any halfway system. I > would stay away from those via cpus, though. > > Robert Crawford > > On Sunday 30 March 2003 04:53 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > This is to replace the mobo in a box with a Cyrix/IBM cpu. Everything in > > it is pretty old, and would have to be replaced if I rebuild from > > scratch. From experience I would say that I would be pushing £500 to get > > a full decent system together. If I buy this for £50 I can get away by > > putting in the current drives and spending nothing else. But will it run > > Mandrake? > > > > Anne > > > > On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 10:02 pm, Robert Crawford wrote: > > > In my opinion, you can do much better for the same or just a little > > > more money. I build all my own PC's, and for others, too. For example, > > > in the U.S., you can get an Athlon 1700+ tbred "B" for $48 US, which is > > > 3 times the cpu. Mobo/cpu combos run $80 and up- for instance a PC > > > chips board/1700+ combo runs $81 US. It also depends on if you are > > > planning on using the ram you have now. Do some research before buying > > > something. Look on Pricewatch, and compare stuff to what you have now. > > > For the price/performance, you can't beat the Athlon 1700+ Tbred "B," > > > and it can be matched with many low priced boards which all work fine. > > > > > > Robert Crawford > > > > > > On Sunday 30 March 2003 02:38 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > I have been offered a PCChips M787CLM mobo, 1GHz VIA C3 cpu, pretty > > > > well everything on board. I can't find anything on the web about > > > > this exact model, but have seen a thread describing a Debian install > > > > on a related model, and VIA C3 chips appear to be used in some of the > > > > new quiet small boards that I have seen mentioned. > > > > > > > > Does anyone know anything, good, bad or indifferent, that would > > > > influence me? They are asking £50, by the way. > > > > > > > > Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mobo query
That mobo might not even have SDRAM, much less DDR. You will probably need new ram, whatever you do- which isn't too bad, since it's dirt cheap these days. You should be able to use everything else, except probably you'll need a better power supply. You need to do more research as to the ram and power supply you have, and post it so we can advise properly. Maybe post the exact model of Cyrix/IBM you have now, and one of us can look it up and offer better advice- just don't be hasty, and make a mistake. You can put together a really good system, for very little money, if you know how. Any better mobo/cpu is going to require a better power supply, if your present system is what it sounds like. And, to get the best from any modern cpu, you really need DDR memory- SDRAM is on the way out. In any case, Mandrake will install and run on almost any halfway system. I would stay away from those via cpus, though. Robert Crawford On Sunday 30 March 2003 04:53 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > This is to replace the mobo in a box with a Cyrix/IBM cpu. Everything in > it is pretty old, and would have to be replaced if I rebuild from scratch. > From experience I would say that I would be pushing £500 to get a full > decent system together. If I buy this for £50 I can get away by putting in > the current drives and spending nothing else. But will it run Mandrake? > > Anne > > On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 10:02 pm, Robert Crawford wrote: > > In my opinion, you can do much better for the same or just a little more > > money. I build all my own PC's, and for others, too. For example, in the > > U.S., you can get an Athlon 1700+ tbred "B" for $48 US, which is 3 times > > the cpu. Mobo/cpu combos run $80 and up- for instance a PC chips > > board/1700+ combo runs $81 US. It also depends on if you are planning on > > using the ram you have now. Do some research before buying something. > > Look on Pricewatch, and compare stuff to what you have now. For the > > price/performance, you can't beat the Athlon 1700+ Tbred "B," and it can > > be matched with many low priced boards which all work fine. > > > > Robert Crawford > > > > On Sunday 30 March 2003 02:38 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > I have been offered a PCChips M787CLM mobo, 1GHz VIA C3 cpu, pretty > > > well everything on board. I can't find anything on the web about this > > > exact model, but have seen a thread describing a Debian install on a > > > related model, and VIA C3 chips appear to be used in some of the new > > > quiet small boards that I have seen mentioned. > > > > > > Does anyone know anything, good, bad or indifferent, that would > > > influence me? They are asking £50, by the way. > > > > > > Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mobo query
On Sunday 30 March 2003 04:53 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > This is to replace the mobo in a box with a Cyrix/IBM cpu. Everything in > it is pretty old, and would have to be replaced if I rebuild from scratch. > From experience I would say that I would be pushing £500 to get a full > decent system together. If I buy this for £50 I can get away by putting in > the current drives and spending nothing else. But will it run Mandrake? Do you know what chipset is on it? -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mobo query
This is to replace the mobo in a box with a Cyrix/IBM cpu. Everything in it is pretty old, and would have to be replaced if I rebuild from scratch. From experience I would say that I would be pushing £500 to get a full decent system together. If I buy this for £50 I can get away by putting in the current drives and spending nothing else. But will it run Mandrake? Anne On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 10:02 pm, Robert Crawford wrote: > In my opinion, you can do much better for the same or just a little more > money. I build all my own PC's, and for others, too. For example, in the > U.S., you can get an Athlon 1700+ tbred "B" for $48 US, which is 3 times > the cpu. Mobo/cpu combos run $80 and up- for instance a PC chips > board/1700+ combo runs $81 US. It also depends on if you are planning on > using the ram you have now. Do some research before buying something. Look > on Pricewatch, and compare stuff to what you have now. For the > price/performance, you can't beat the Athlon 1700+ Tbred "B," and it can be > matched with many low priced boards which all work fine. > > Robert Crawford > > On Sunday 30 March 2003 02:38 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > I have been offered a PCChips M787CLM mobo, 1GHz VIA C3 cpu, pretty well > > everything on board. I can't find anything on the web about this exact > > model, but have seen a thread describing a Debian install on a related > > model, and VIA C3 chips appear to be used in some of the new quiet small > > boards that I have seen mentioned. > > > > Does anyone know anything, good, bad or indifferent, that would influence > > me? They are asking £50, by the way. > > > > Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mobo query
In my opinion, you can do much better for the same or just a little more money. I build all my own PC's, and for others, too. For example, in the U.S., you can get an Athlon 1700+ tbred "B" for $48 US, which is 3 times the cpu. Mobo/cpu combos run $80 and up- for instance a PC chips board/1700+ combo runs $81 US. It also depends on if you are planning on using the ram you have now. Do some research before buying something. Look on Pricewatch, and compare stuff to what you have now. For the price/performance, you can't beat the Athlon 1700+ Tbred "B," and it can be matched with many low priced boards which all work fine. Robert Crawford On Sunday 30 March 2003 02:38 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > I have been offered a PCChips M787CLM mobo, 1GHz VIA C3 cpu, pretty well > everything on board. I can't find anything on the web about this exact > model, but have seen a thread describing a Debian install on a related > model, and VIA C3 chips appear to be used in some of the new quiet small > boards that I have seen mentioned. > > Does anyone know anything, good, bad or indifferent, that would influence > me? They are asking £50, by the way. > > Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mobo query
I have been offered a PCChips M787CLM mobo, 1GHz VIA C3 cpu, pretty well everything on board. I can't find anything on the web about this exact model, but have seen a thread describing a Debian install on a related model, and VIA C3 chips appear to be used in some of the new quiet small boards that I have seen mentioned. Does anyone know anything, good, bad or indifferent, that would influence me? They are asking £50, by the way. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
