[expert] NVidia will be bannished
Hi People, It's just a commentary. I really regret the day when I buy my GeForce. Since I only found out later, there's no open source drivers for such graphic-card (by now I don't know). And since Nvidia seems not be interest about Linux since they don't give graphic-card parameters so Linux developers can make an appropriate driver, I really recommend to not buy Nvidia products if you intend to run Linux box at full power. Such Nvidia proprietary solution can make the card rock but it's worse than using Winblows. Free Software and Open Source code is the *only* way for Linux. Hail GNU! Now I agree with mplayer developer guys. Nvidia is *REALLY BAD*. --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NVidia will be bannished
Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote: Hi People, It's just a commentary. I really regret the day when I buy my GeForce. Since I only found out later, there's no open source drivers for such graphic-card (by now I don't know). And since Nvidia seems not be interest about Linux since they don't give graphic-card parameters so Linux developers can make an appropriate driver, I really recommend to not buy Nvidia products if you intend to run Linux box at full power. Such Nvidia proprietary solution can make the card rock but it's worse than using Winblows. Free Software and Open Source code is the *only* way for Linux. Hail GNU! Now I agree with mplayer developer guys. Nvidia is *REALLY BAD*. --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil I fully agree with you...but...what do you do for 3D accelerated games like Quake 3, Rune, Soldier of Fortune, etc, etc,...? Sure, you can grab an old Voodoo but they are showing their age now with the latest games. I've got a 11 year old, and I have a Geforce 2 under Mandrake 8.0 for him. He loves the games. Only boots into Windoze now for games that we can't play under Linux (mostly Starcraft networking - and if Transgaming ever gets Winex to play networking with that game then Windows is dead). I've not yet heard of a good 3D accelerated card that is completely open source. The ATI Radeon seems to have potential but I've heard a lot of users say they never got 3D working right with it... Just as soon as a modern/fast video card is proven to be easy to setup and completely open-source, I'd sell my Nvidia in a heartbeat and buy it... ;-) Later... -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NVidia will be bannished
AWSdS Hi People, AWSdS It's just a commentary. AWSdS I really regret the day when I buy my GeForce. Since I only found AWSdS out later, there's no open source drivers for such graphic-card (by now I AWSdS don't know). And since Nvidia seems not be interest about Linux since AWSdS they don't give graphic-card parameters so Linux developers can make an AWSdS appropriate driver, I really recommend to not buy Nvidia products if you AWSdS intend to run Linux box at full power. AWSdS Such Nvidia proprietary solution can make the card rock but it's AWSdS worse than using Winblows. AWSdS Free Software and Open Source code is the *only* way for Linux. AWSdS Hail GNU! AWSdS Now I agree with mplayer developer guys. Nvidia is *REALLY BAD*. Before doing something about nvidia, which gives its customers fast, easy installable, working drivers, I suggest you try your nice advices on the companies that does not really support linux in any way. Have you ever tried to make an hsf or hcf modem work ? Have you ever seen i740(intel) do a 3d opengl fast as it should be ? .. At least all of nvidia based systems I made are working flawlessly, very fast and reliable, and the difference with the above, they are working. As long as they are making my nvidia card working on linux better than windows, and they dont cause me trouble, I will be using nvidia. Nvidia may be closed source, but before it comes to argue about the open/close source, first argue working/not working... I believe that many people are too much keen on nvidia, even though they are doing very great job compared to lots of many companies out there, doing nothing. Regards, Onur Kucuk _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NVidia will be bannished
I use a basic ATI Radeon 32 MB video card in my box (OEM) and it works perfectly (now) out of the box. Before around Mandrake 8.1 I was downloading, building, and installing the DRM source but the XFree86 4.1.0 supplied with 8.1 works out of the box. At this time, the ATI Radeon 8500 isn't supported but the 7500 is. I like it, actually. I play Heretic II, Terminus, Quake, Half-Life (via wine) without problem. As for NVidia, I don't trust them. They are in close cahoots with M$ via the Xbox and since they don't release specs for developers - if they decide (perhaps as a favor to M$?) to end support for linux then future NVidia cards would be nonstarters. You would be safe for NOW, but who knows about the future? I'll be sticking with ATI for the forseeable future. On Monday 28 January 2002 10:56 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote: Hi People, It's just a commentary. I really regret the day when I buy my GeForce. Since I only found out later, there's no open source drivers for such graphic-card (by now I don't know). And since Nvidia seems not be interest about Linux [...] I fully agree with you...but...what do you do for 3D accelerated games like Quake 3, Rune, Soldier of Fortune, etc, etc,...? Sure, you can grab an old Voodoo but they are showing their age now with the latest games. I've got a 11 year old, and I have a Geforce 2 under Mandrake 8.0 for him. He loves the games. Only boots into Windoze now for games that we can't play under Linux (mostly Starcraft networking - and if Transgaming ever gets Winex to play networking with that game then Windows is dead). I've not yet heard of a good 3D accelerated card that is completely open source. The ATI Radeon seems to have potential but I've heard a lot of users say they never got 3D working right with it... [...] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NVidia will be bannished
As for NVidia, I don't trust them. They are in close cahoots with M$ via the Xbox and since they don't release specs for developers - if they decide (perhaps as a favor to M$?) to end support for linux then future NVidia cards would be nonstarters. You would be safe for NOW, but who knows about the future? If they're not releasing specs now, what more can they do to end support? Not release closed-source binaries? Then we're right where some want us to be ... no 3D on an nVidia board, since the open source drivers (which will be the only ones available) don't do it (or don't do it well enough to be truly practical). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
