Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
If using vnc is not an option, I would recommend downloading and evaluating vmWare for Linux (www.vmware.com). That will allow you to run an Windows system under Linux, where you can run PC Anywhere to do what you want. If it works, the price for registering vmWare is fairly reasonable. On Wed, 2002-02-06 at 02:24, James wrote: YES, The best version as far as speed I've used can be dl'd at www.tightvnc.com (despite the com it's a gpl'd app) Originally designed by the Olivetti Research labs in England, it rocks. Windows/Linux/Freebsd clients in the tight version Mac and WinCE in the standard version. Best situation is using a windows box as a client to VNC into a linux box. Tight VNC also has links on the front page to the ORL site on VNC. My suggestion is leave PCAnywhere on whatever box it's on. Install VNC along side of it (they are compatible) and then run the desktop. As long as no one tries to use PCAnywhere at the same time you are using VNC (no multitasking in windwoze) you are in great shape. James On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 12:14:12 -0700 Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 05 February 2002 11:59 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a PC Anywhere client (NOT a host) port for Linux? I'd like to be able to stay in Linux when having to dial-in to various Winders machines I have to take care of. Yes, I know about the various other programs that exist that do the same thing, but I need to be able to talk to a PC ANywhere Host. I have no idea if there is anything that can play nice with PCAnywhere. PCAnywhere under Wine? Citrix Winframe for linux? There is no linux PCAnywhere client but there may be other ways to do it from linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Mitch Thompson, San Antonio TX Key fingerprint = BBDA 3A2A 4483 BD0D 7CED B8A9 D183 C8F6 B0AF 66AE -- The most likely way for the world to be destroyed, most experts agree, is by accident. That's where we come in; we're computer professionals. We cause accidents. -- Nathaniel Borenstein signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
Made it through MailScanner using Sophos cleanly. On 05 Feb 2002 21:37:41 -0500 Michael Leone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 20:24, Arief Rakhmatsyah wrote: My PC reports that you've sent virus. Your PC is wrong, then. There was an attachment to my message - a PGP signature. An attachment is not a virus; if your email client thinks so, it's time to get a new email client. If you check the email headers, you'll see that I'm sending from Linux, and there are no viruses in Linux. -- -- Michael J. Leone Registered Linux user #201348 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 50453890 AIM: MikeLeone PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF PGP public key: http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.gpg Sometimes your lack of sympathy gets hard to explain, So on your mask of make-up you just paint a little parody of pain When you were young, Del Amitri Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
YES, The best version as far as speed I've used can be dl'd at www.tightvnc.com (despite the com it's a gpl'd app) Originally designed by the Olivetti Research labs in England, it rocks. Windows/Linux/Freebsd clients in the tight version Mac and WinCE in the standard version. Best situation is using a windows box as a client to VNC into a linux box. Tight VNC also has links on the front page to the ORL site on VNC. My suggestion is leave PCAnywhere on whatever box it's on. Install VNC along side of it (they are compatible) and then run the desktop. As long as no one tries to use PCAnywhere at the same time you are using VNC (no multitasking in windwoze) you are in great shape. James On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 12:14:12 -0700 Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 05 February 2002 11:59 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a PC Anywhere client (NOT a host) port for Linux? I'd like to be able to stay in Linux when having to dial-in to various Winders machines I have to take care of. Yes, I know about the various other programs that exist that do the same thing, but I need to be able to talk to a PC ANywhere Host. I have no idea if there is anything that can play nice with PCAnywhere. PCAnywhere under Wine? Citrix Winframe for linux? There is no linux PCAnywhere client but there may be other ways to do it from linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 02:22, you wrote: OK I'm sorry. I use M$ PC with Norton Antivirus and it has reported something wrong. :-) - Original Message - From: Michael Leone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your PC is wrong, then. There was an attachment to my message - a PGP signature. An attachment is not a virus; if your email client thinks so, it's time to get a new email client. If you check the email headers, you'll see that I'm sending from Linux, and there are no viruses in Linux. heck, if you are worried about virusis, quite connecting to the internet w/ a M$ product. whom ever said users install games and such has never installed anything as user. almost every install requires root access, or at leaast ownership of the folder, and if it was installed by a user, it will never get higher permissions than the user unless someone w/ root access changes the permissions Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
What about the guy that needed help communicating with the PCAnywhere host? There was a suggestion to that already. One of the first in this thread. Try running PCA under WINE, as there doesn't seem to be a pcAnywhere for Linux, nor do the other remote control solutions seem to work with a PCA host. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 06:59 am, Mike Leone wrote: What about the guy that needed help communicating with the PCAnywhere host? There was a suggestion to that already. One of the first in this thread. Try running PCA under WINE, as there doesn't seem to be a pcAnywhere for Linux, nor do the other remote control solutions seem to work with a PCA host. There is one more solution possible but it costs a little money. Get VMWare and run PCAnywhere from the VMWare virtual machine. That WILL work, for sure. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
- Original Message - From: Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux? On Wednesday 06 February 2002 06:59 am, Mike Leone wrote: What about the guy that needed help communicating with the PCAnywhere host? There was a suggestion to that already. One of the first in this thread. Try running PCA under WINE, as there doesn't seem to be a pcAnywhere for Linux, nor do the other remote control solutions seem to work with a PCA host. There is one more solution possible but it costs a little money. Get VMWare and run PCAnywhere from the VMWare virtual machine. That WILL work, for sure. Or Win4Lin, which is less expensive (and less resource intensive) than even vmWare Express. You're right; we were all presuming no monetary cost alternatives, instead of alternatives. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
Who? Gérard Perreault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday 05 February 2002 23:54, David Rankin wrote: What about the guy that needed help communicating with the PCAnywhere host? Gerard Perreault wrote: Considering that there is more and more use of free-ware in Linux, and that many of those free-ware utilities are installed by non root users (ie. games or neat programs), there is some potential for a Trojan horse attack, particularly if the source code is not available to the Linux community or the software is in beta version (which may not have gone through much supervison yet). The fact that the Trojan horse is still limited by the kernel restrictions (assuming it's not within a device driver), does not give me much comfort. Even if I do backups regularly, the thought of having to restore my home directory is not appealing at all. Specially if I had to restore those of many users. The main advantage of Unix based systems (like Linux), is that at least they have security, they take advantages of CPU capabilities to protect the OS. It is not like other systems which welcome viruses with open harms. At least Linux has locks on the door, but if you let them in, it's a new ball game. On Tuesday 05 February 2002 22:07, Terry Mathews wrote: For a virus to damage more than the current user's files, it would need root access. For that, it would have to have some sort of ability to root the system, usually overflowing a port. The problem is that a virus that could root several different UNIXes running different versions of services would have to have many different hacks in it and would be very large in size, and just the size alone would alert people to the fact it's a virus. Viruses get by on x86 systems because of common exploitable problems. A 10-15MB virus would be much, much easier to detect. Well, I don't know if I'd go that far. They aren't common, but linux or any unix (or any OS really) can have a virus/worm written for it. A worm is not a virus. I think there's only 1 true virus written for Unix, and it was more of a proof of concept, IIRC. -- Gerard Perreault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 1329 N. University, Suite D4 Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax -- Gérard Perreault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
Is there a PC Anywhere client (NOT a host) port for Linux? I'd like to be able to stay in Linux when having to dial-in to various Winders machines I have to take care of. Yes, I know about the various other programs that exist that do the same thing, but I need to be able to talk to a PC ANywhere Host. THanks. Bob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 11:59 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a PC Anywhere client (NOT a host) port for Linux? I'd like to be able to stay in Linux when having to dial-in to various Winders machines I have to take care of. Yes, I know about the various other programs that exist that do the same thing, but I need to be able to talk to a PC ANywhere Host. I have no idea if there is anything that can play nice with PCAnywhere. PCAnywhere under Wine? Citrix Winframe for linux? There is no linux PCAnywhere client but there may be other ways to do it from linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
Install vnc-server-3.3.3r1-2mdk.i586.rpm and download VNC client for Windows from http://www.uk.research.att.com/ - Original Message - From: Bob Puff@NLE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a PC Anywhere client (NOT a host) port for Linux? I'd like to be able to stay in Linux when having to dial-in to various Winders machines I have to take care of. Yes, I know about the various other programs that exist that do the same thing, but I need to be able to talk to a PC ANywhere Host. THanks. Bob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 19:51, Arief Rakhmatsyah wrote: Install vnc-server-3.3.3r1-2mdk.i586.rpm and download VNC client for Windows from http://www.uk.research.att.com/ Did you not see where he said: of. Yes, I know about the various other programs that exist that do the same thing, but I need to be able to talk to a PC ANywhere Host. -- -- Michael J. Leone Registered Linux user #201348 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 50453890 AIM: MikeLeone PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF PGP public key: http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.gpg Sometimes your lack of sympathy gets hard to explain, So on your mask of make-up you just paint a little parody of pain When you were young, Del Amitri signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
My PC reports that you've sent virus. - Original Message - From: Michael Leone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Expert Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
Arief Rakhmatsyah wrote: My PC reports that you've sent virus. - Original Message - From: Michael Leone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Expert Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux? Would you care to elucidate this rather cryptic passage. What exactly did your PC report? Are you running your own mail server (POP3)? Did your PC trigger on his (Michael Leone) .asc file (signature file)? On a list where there may be hundreds of subscribers, use your words carefully i.e you may have sent a virus. -- J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT Network/System Administration -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 20:24, Arief Rakhmatsyah wrote: My PC reports that you've sent virus. Your PC is wrong, then. There was an attachment to my message - a PGP signature. An attachment is not a virus; if your email client thinks so, it's time to get a new email client. If you check the email headers, you'll see that I'm sending from Linux, and there are no viruses in Linux. -- -- Michael J. Leone Registered Linux user #201348 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 50453890 AIM: MikeLeone PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF PGP public key: http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.gpg Sometimes your lack of sympathy gets hard to explain, So on your mask of make-up you just paint a little parody of pain When you were young, Del Amitri Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
it's time to get a new email client. If you check the email headers, you'll see that I'm sending from Linux, and there are no viruses in Linux. Well, I don't know if I'd go that far. They aren't common, but linux or any unix (or any OS really) can have a virus/worm written for it. They just aren't as common - but if Linux really catches on, you can bet you'll probably see some. They maybe some what limited in what they can easily do compared to windows, but many of the same things that allow them to work on windows will allow them to work on linux (Social engineering, etc.) -Kyle -- _ ---ooO( )Ooo--- Kyle J. McDonald (o o) Systems Support Engineer Sun Microsystems Inc.| Enterprise Server Products[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Network Drive BUR03-4630 \\\// voice: (781) 442-2184 Burlington, MA 01803 (o o)fax: (781) 442-1542 ---ooO(_)Ooo--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 21:44, Kyle McDonald wrote: it's time to get a new email client. If you check the email headers, you'll see that I'm sending from Linux, and there are no viruses in Linux. Well, I don't know if I'd go that far. They aren't common, but linux or any unix (or any OS really) can have a virus/worm written for it. A worm is not a virus. I think there's only 1 true virus written for Unix, and it was more of a proof of concept, IIRC. They just aren't as common - but if Linux really catches on, you can bet you'll probably see some. But not now. Which invalidates his statement. -- -- Michael J. Leone Registered Linux user #201348 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 50453890 AIM: MikeLeone PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF PGP public key: http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.gpg Sometimes your lack of sympathy gets hard to explain, So on your mask of make-up you just paint a little parody of pain When you were young, Del Amitri Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
For a virus to damage more than the current user's files, it would need root access. For that, it would have to have some sort of ability to root the system, usually overflowing a port. The problem is that a virus that could root several different UNIXes running different versions of services would have to have many different hacks in it and would be very large in size, and just the size alone would alert people to the fact it's a virus. Viruses get by on x86 systems because of common exploitable problems. A 10-15MB virus would be much, much easier to detect. Well, I don't know if I'd go that far. They aren't common, but linux or any unix (or any OS really) can have a virus/worm written for it. A worm is not a virus. I think there's only 1 true virus written for Unix, and it was more of a proof of concept, IIRC. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
Considering that there is more and more use of free-ware in Linux, and that many of those free-ware utilities are installed by non root users (ie. games or neat programs), there is some potential for a Trojan horse attack, particularly if the source code is not available to the Linux community or the software is in beta version (which may not have gone through much supervison yet). The fact that the Trojan horse is still limited by the kernel restrictions (assuming it's not within a device driver), does not give me much comfort. Even if I do backups regularly, the thought of having to restore my home directory is not appealing at all. Specially if I had to restore those of many users. The main advantage of Unix based systems (like Linux), is that at least they have security, they take advantages of CPU capabilities to protect the OS. It is not like other systems which welcome viruses with open harms. At least Linux has locks on the door, but if you let them in, it's a new ball game. On Tuesday 05 February 2002 22:07, Terry Mathews wrote: For a virus to damage more than the current user's files, it would need root access. For that, it would have to have some sort of ability to root the system, usually overflowing a port. The problem is that a virus that could root several different UNIXes running different versions of services would have to have many different hacks in it and would be very large in size, and just the size alone would alert people to the fact it's a virus. Viruses get by on x86 systems because of common exploitable problems. A 10-15MB virus would be much, much easier to detect. Well, I don't know if I'd go that far. They aren't common, but linux or any unix (or any OS really) can have a virus/worm written for it. A worm is not a virus. I think there's only 1 true virus written for Unix, and it was more of a proof of concept, IIRC. -- Gerard Perreault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
What about the guy that needed help communicating with the PCAnywhere host? Gerard Perreault wrote: Considering that there is more and more use of free-ware in Linux, and that many of those free-ware utilities are installed by non root users (ie. games or neat programs), there is some potential for a Trojan horse attack, particularly if the source code is not available to the Linux community or the software is in beta version (which may not have gone through much supervison yet). The fact that the Trojan horse is still limited by the kernel restrictions (assuming it's not within a device driver), does not give me much comfort. Even if I do backups regularly, the thought of having to restore my home directory is not appealing at all. Specially if I had to restore those of many users. The main advantage of Unix based systems (like Linux), is that at least they have security, they take advantages of CPU capabilities to protect the OS. It is not like other systems which welcome viruses with open harms. At least Linux has locks on the door, but if you let them in, it's a new ball game. On Tuesday 05 February 2002 22:07, Terry Mathews wrote: For a virus to damage more than the current user's files, it would need root access. For that, it would have to have some sort of ability to root the system, usually overflowing a port. The problem is that a virus that could root several different UNIXes running different versions of services would have to have many different hacks in it and would be very large in size, and just the size alone would alert people to the fact it's a virus. Viruses get by on x86 systems because of common exploitable problems. A 10-15MB virus would be much, much easier to detect. Well, I don't know if I'd go that far. They aren't common, but linux or any unix (or any OS really) can have a virus/worm written for it. A worm is not a virus. I think there's only 1 true virus written for Unix, and it was more of a proof of concept, IIRC. -- Gerard Perreault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 1329 N. University, Suite D4 Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
users in linux are a big reason linux virus's won't be that much of a problem in linux.. can't hurt what you don't have access to. Also I don't know that any of the linux mail clients have the ability to do the damage caused by Outlook and Outlook Express... and Mozilla and most other browsers don't have access to most of the stuff that makes IE damgerous.. So yes, there can be virus's, but they will be much less able to propergate themselves, and much less able to do serious damage.. Also, linux users are often better informed then winblows users,, so patched systems are more likely then is the case in Winblows. one last point, which is the biggest selling point, many eyes make bugs lite.. it gets seen by many people, (the source) so if there are flaws, they tend to get seen pretty quickly. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kyle McDonald Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2002 10:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux? it's time to get a new email client. If you check the email headers, you'll see that I'm sending from Linux, and there are no viruses in Linux. Well, I don't know if I'd go that far. They aren't common, but linux or any unix (or any OS really) can have a virus/worm written for it. They just aren't as common - but if Linux really catches on, you can bet you'll probably see some. They maybe some what limited in what they can easily do compared to windows, but many of the same things that allow them to work on windows will allow them to work on linux (Social engineering, etc.) -Kyle -- _ ---ooO( )Ooo--- Kyle J. McDonald (o o) Systems Support Engineer Sun Microsystems Inc.| Enterprise Server Products[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Network Drive BUR03-4630 \\\// voice: (781) 442-2184 Burlington, MA 01803 (o o)fax: (781) 442-1542 ---ooO(_)Ooo--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PCAnywhere for Linux?
OK I'm sorry. I use M$ PC with Norton Antivirus and it has reported something wrong. :-) - Original Message - From: Michael Leone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your PC is wrong, then. There was an attachment to my message - a PGP signature. An attachment is not a virus; if your email client thinks so, it's time to get a new email client. If you check the email headers, you'll see that I'm sending from Linux, and there are no viruses in Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
