Re: [expert] Slipstreaming 9.0 Updates
On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 16:39, bascule wrote: hey tom, greg is referring to the practice of taking an install disk for an os or prog and also the subsequent updates for said os/prog and combining them so that one creates an install disk that installs the os/prog with the updates already applied, when service pack 1 for winxp came out there was a quite a bit of discussion (elsewhere of course!) on how to create a cd that would install winxp with the service pack already applied. greg is looking to do the same thing with lm, imho it would make a great mini-howto as with a few cd-rws one could always have an uptodate version of lm to install on a machine that might not have a broadband connection, of course it's not that hard to keep a cd of all the updates that one downloads and install and then update from that but i like the elegance of a slipstreamed install :) bascule I haven't played with the MDK installer only Anaconda by RH but it provides a means where you need to mod only 1 file run genhdlist and poof new CD... the problem so to speak comes in spanning multiple CD's. Now the question as I see it is.. would a modified version of the technique used to create Cooker CD's be the right way to go? In the past I had just burned off all of the rpms in update to CD then added it to my media list for urpmi then did urpmi -media-name -auto --auto-select and let it run. Prior to urpmi I'd do rpm -Fvh *.rpm while in the directory on the disk. The F of course only acts if the rpm exists in its older form already installed. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slipstreaming 9.0 Updates
On Thursday 20 February 2003 12:41 am, Greg Meyer wrote: Does anybody know how I would create a slipstreamed set of installation disks for 9.0 that included all the security updates. Is it as easy as copying the new packages to the cd images and removing the older version? or is there some kind of remastering process that must happen? Greg,please excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by slipstreamed ? I have not heard of that term. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slipstreaming 9.0 Updates
On Wednesday 26 February 2003 10:51 pm, Tom wrote: On Thursday 20 February 2003 12:41 am, Greg Meyer wrote: Does anybody know how I would create a slipstreamed set of installation disks for 9.0 that included all the security updates. Is it as easy as copying the new packages to the cd images and removing the older version? or is there some kind of remastering process that must happen? Greg,please excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by slipstreamed ? I have not heard of that term. I dunno what slipstream means either, but, I will hazard a guess about updating the CDs-- make directories, replace packages ./gendepslist to make a new hdlist.cz, then install once and make3 a floppy of the package selections, since the categorical selections will no longer relate to the packages. I personally make an install completion CD to run the updates off a fourth CD after the regular install is done (plus Java, RealPlayer, Yahoo Instant Messenger, etc) with a very short Python routine that calls rpm for each of the packages and after checking that user desktops have been activated puts icons on the desktop for a few items that don't go on menu. I also add some menu entries for the simplified menu cause I want OpenOffice to pop up there instead of KOffice or the Gnome stuff. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Slipstreaming 9.0 Updates
you should but the CD iso's online for us Mr Civilme that would be a really really handy resource.. regards Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of civileme Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 1:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Slipstreaming 9.0 Updates On Wednesday 26 February 2003 10:51 pm, Tom wrote: On Thursday 20 February 2003 12:41 am, Greg Meyer wrote: Does anybody know how I would create a slipstreamed set of installation disks for 9.0 that included all the security updates. Is it as easy as copying the new packages to the cd images and removing the older version? or is there some kind of remastering process that must happen? Greg,please excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by slipstreamed ? I have not heard of that term. I dunno what slipstream means either, but, I will hazard a guess about updating the CDs-- make directories, replace packages ./gendepslist to make a new hdlist.cz, then install once and make3 a floppy of the package selections, since the categorical selections will no longer relate to the packages. I personally make an install completion CD to run the updates off a fourth CD after the regular install is done (plus Java, RealPlayer, Yahoo Instant Messenger, etc) with a very short Python routine that calls rpm for each of the packages and after checking that user desktops have been activated puts icons on the desktop for a few items that don't go on menu. I also add some menu entries for the simplified menu cause I want OpenOffice to pop up there instead of KOffice or the Gnome stuff. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slipstreaming 9.0 Updates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 27 February 2003 12:56 pm, civileme wrote: I dunno what slipstream means either, but, I will hazard a guess about updating the CDs-- make directories, replace packages ./gendepslist to make a new hdlist.cz, then install once and make3 a floppy of the package selections, since the categorical selections will no longer relate to the packages. Civileme has got it, and provided exactly the info I was after. I have to apologize though, I believe slipstream is a term Microsoft uses when it updates it's install CD's with the latest Service Packs. I wanted to do the same with my Mandrake disks. This is not a problem in my house, because I keep a local update mirror, but if I am at a friend's house, it would allow me to save some time. - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+XnnZGu5uuMFlL5MRAqMWAKCEz4Bqs3AHpDNZNCi0owAELE2ZlACfWnSY 5jDsznt8QPePZe05w5FqehM= =bgsg -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slipstreaming 9.0 Updates
hey tom, greg is referring to the practice of taking an install disk for an os or prog and also the subsequent updates for said os/prog and combining them so that one creates an install disk that installs the os/prog with the updates already applied, when service pack 1 for winxp came out there was a quite a bit of discussion (elsewhere of course!) on how to create a cd that would install winxp with the service pack already applied. greg is looking to do the same thing with lm, imho it would make a great mini-howto as with a few cd-rws one could always have an uptodate version of lm to install on a machine that might not have a broadband connection, of course it's not that hard to keep a cd of all the updates that one downloads and install and then update from that but i like the elegance of a slipstreamed install :) bascule On Thursday 27 Feb 2003 7:51 am, Tom wrote: On Thursday 20 February 2003 12:41 am, Greg Meyer wrote: Does anybody know how I would create a slipstreamed set of installation disks for 9.0 that included all the security updates. Is it as easy as copying the new packages to the cd images and removing the older version? or is there some kind of remastering process that must happen? Greg,please excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by slipstreamed ? I have not heard of that term. -- The only way housework could be done in this place was with a shovel or, for preference, a match. (Witches Abroad) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Slipstreaming 9.0 Updates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anybody know how I would create a slipstreamed set of installation disks for 9.0 that included all the security updates. Is it as easy as copying the new packages to the cd images and removing the older version? or is there some kind of remastering process that must happen? - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+VCRAGu5uuMFlL5MRAnqKAJ48nNUqEvK2MMSBvrlpFeuDto9dbQCcDkdH sp4Kjj023bysjdIAyn00vls= =oR8Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slipstreaming 9.0 Updates
On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 20:41, Greg Meyer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anybody know how I would create a slipstreamed set of installation disks for 9.0 that included all the security updates. Is it as easy as copying the new packages to the cd images and removing the older version? or is there some kind of remastering process that must happen? - -- Greg I was about to ask if there is any way to create a new set of Mandrake CDs with a kernel customized for my PC. May I add my question to yours? -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slipstreaming 9.0 Updates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 09:09 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: Does anybody know how I would create a slipstreamed set of installation disks for 9.0 that included all the security updates. Is it as easy as copying the new packages to the cd images and removing the older version? or is there some kind of remastering process that must happen? I was about to ask if there is any way to create a new set of Mandrake CDs with a kernel customized for my PC. May I add my question to yours? I certainly do not mind, but the answers might be technically different. If your custom kernel is packaged as an rpm, I think it is the same question. If it consists of just the compiled vmlinuz and modules, it might be more difficult because the installer installs everything with rpm. Let's see what others say though. - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+VDnjGu5uuMFlL5MRAhvyAJoDG+4VDR9YyZAD02DLjEB1YEP8fgCePMXn /LEcCUNPX77v9FRR8gR2AP0= =ocvS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slipstreaming 9.0 Updates
On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 22:13, Greg Meyer wrote: I certainly do not mind, but the answers might be technically different. If your custom kernel is packaged as an rpm, I think it is the same question. If it consists of just the compiled vmlinuz and modules, it might be more difficult because the installer installs everything with rpm. Let's see what others say though. - -- Greg Thanks Greg. It doesn't look like a piece of cake to me. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slipstreaming 9.0 Updates
Greg Meyer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 09:09 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: Does anybody know how I would create a slipstreamed set of installation disks for 9.0 that included all the security updates. Is it as easy as copying the new packages to the cd images and removing the older version? or is there some kind of remastering process that must happen? I was about to ask if there is any way to create a new set of Mandrake CDs with a kernel customized for my PC. May I add my question to yours? I certainly do not mind, but the answers might be technically different. If your custom kernel is packaged as an rpm, I think it is the same question. If it consists of just the compiled vmlinuz and modules, it might be more difficult because the installer installs everything with rpm. Let's see what others say though. - -- Greg I see where people do this sort of thing but I am not so disenchanted with my occasional periods of tranquility to try it myself. What I gather: You will need to generate hdlists at some point with genhdlist, part of rpmtools. You will need to make the isos with mkcd, from the program of the same name. There is a README.MakeCD in the misc/ directory of the cooker tree and the RedHat-CD-HOWTO, which is here in rc1: file:/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/Linuxs-20030211/RedHat-CD-HOWTO/index.html Also, less /usr/share/doc/mkcd-3.4.2/README Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Slipstreaming 9.0 Updates
On Thursday 20 February 2003 01:41, Greg Meyer wrote: Hash: SHA1 Does anybody know how I would create a slipstreamed set of installation disks for 9.0 that included all the security updates. Is it as easy as copying the new packages to the cd images and removing the older version? or is there some kind of remastering process that must happen? It should not be just copying, at least the hdlist must be updated otherwise some packages might not be found. Maybe the description on how to make cooker-isos on the mandrake-site is of help for you, if there are further things to think of. -- Regards Steffen counter.li.org : #296567. machine: 181800 vdr-box : 87 Please dont CC me, since if I have replied I'll watch the tread. Both mails will be filtered to the ML-folder. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
