Re: [expert] updates to 9.2
Hi. El Jueves 30 Octubre 2003 02:53, Michael Noble escribió: I just reloaded my 9.2 and installed updates. Now I not only do not have any screen savers but the menus are almost completely empty. Some of the Start option menus are completely gone. I can not even get a terminal started. I have been fond of Mandrake but this is really a disappointment when it goes form bad to worse. If this is the state of Mandrake then new users will be turned away and never come back. I am not trying to put down Mandrake, but I am really starting to get feed up with the problems. Can somebody tell me what is going on? Just delete your .kde/share/applnk-mdk/.hidden/Screensavers directory and the screensavers will return. -- Saludos -- Pedro Capiscol http://www.LinuXauen.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] updates to 9.2
I just reloaded my 9.2 and installed updates. Now I not only do not have any screen savers but the menus are almost completely empty. Some of the Start option menus are completely gone. I can not even get a terminal started. I have been fond of Mandrake but this is really a disappointment when it goes form bad to worse. If this is the state of Mandrake then new users will be turned away and never come back. I am not trying to put down Mandrake, but I am really starting to get feed up with the problems. Can somebody tell me what is going on? Thanks Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] updates to 9.2
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 09:53 pm, Michael Noble wrote: I just reloaded my 9.2 and installed updates. Now I not only do not have any screen savers but the menus are almost completely empty. Some of the Start option menus are completely gone. I can not even get a terminal started. I have been fond of Mandrake but this is really a disappointment when it goes form bad to worse. If this is the state of Mandrake then new users will be turned away and never come back. I am not trying to put down Mandrake, but I am really starting to get feed up with the problems. Can somebody tell me what is going on? Not sure where you have been, as this problem is being talked about all over the place, but all you have to do is run 'update-menus -v' as root and that should fix the menu problem. I'm surprised you are running into a screesaver issue if you have applied all the updates, since the new kde packages supposedly fixed that problem. Are you sure you have kdeartwork installed. If not, there is a discussion here on how to fix that http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?mop=modloadname=Forumsfile=viewtopictopic=2276forum=18 Cheers! -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] updates CD..
Hi guys, Just curious.. Is there an updates iso made anywere?? seems like that would be handy, and could even be automated.. I'm currently downloading all the updates in the mdk9 updates directory on FTP.. so I can update all my machines completely without having to do each one.. Incidently, does anyone know of a way to stop MandrakeUpdate deleting the files in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms That would be handy, then I could just grab all the packages and burn them to CD... rgds Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] updates CD..
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 06:00, Frankie wrote: Incidently, does anyone know of a way to stop MandrakeUpdate deleting the files in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms That would be handy, then I could just grab all the packages and burn them to CD... The urpmi man page offers this pearl of wisdom: --noclean do not remove any package from the cache in directory /var/cache/urpmi/rpms. HTH! -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 9.0 Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J. O'Rourke Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] updates CD..
Incidently, does anyone know of a way to stop MandrakeUpdate deleting the files in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms Hi, I asked this a while back and got some responses but mainly for urpmi from the command line. I looked at some of the scripts involved in MandrakeUpdate but didn't figure out how I could use the information successfully. I may have some time on my hands in the near future so it's something I might look at again. It's such an obvious thing to want to do I'm surprised it's not implemented. Paul. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] updates CD..
I suppose i could go though the calls to urpmi in MandrakeUpdate and add --noclean was hoping there was an easier way though.. It should be a checkbox on the GUI. rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Fotheringham Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2003 9:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] updates CD.. Incidently, does anyone know of a way to stop MandrakeUpdate deleting the files in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms Hi, I asked this a while back and got some responses but mainly for urpmi from the command line. I looked at some of the scripts involved in MandrakeUpdate but didn't figure out how I could use the information successfully. I may have some time on my hands in the near future so it's something I might look at again. It's such an obvious thing to want to do I'm surprised it's not implemented. Paul. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] updates CD..
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 14:35, Frankie wrote: I suppose i could go though the calls to urpmi in MandrakeUpdate and add --noclean was hoping there was an easier way though.. It should be a checkbox on the GUI. It is easier to modify the defaults in urpmi: #- default options. my $update = 0; my $media = ''; my $synthesis = ''; my $auto = 0; my $allow_medium_change = 0; my $auto_select = 0; my $force = 0; my $allow_nodeps = 0; my $allow_force = 0; my $parallel = ''; my $sync = undef; my $X = 0; my $WID = 0; my $all = 0; my $rpm_opt = vh; my $use_provides = 1; my $fuzzy = 0; my $src = 0; my $clean = 0; my $noclean = 0;== to 1 my $pre_clean_cache = 0; my $post_clean_cache = 1; my $verbose = 0; my $root = ''; my $bug = ''; my $env = ''; my $log = ''; my $verify_rpm = 1; my $test = 0; -- Regards Steffen counter.li.org : #296567. machine: 181800 vdr-box : 87 Please dont CC me, since if I have replied I'll watch the tread. Both mails will be filtered to the ML-folder. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] updates CD..
cool, thanks heaps... rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steffen Barszus It is easier to modify the defaults in urpmi: #- default options. my $update = 0; my $media = ''; my $synthesis = ''; my $auto = 0; my $allow_medium_change = 0; my $auto_select = 0; my $force = 0; my $allow_nodeps = 0; my $allow_force = 0; my $parallel = ''; my $sync = undef; my $X = 0; my $WID = 0; my $all = 0; my $rpm_opt = vh; my $use_provides = 1; my $fuzzy = 0; my $src = 0; my $clean = 0; my $noclean = 0;== to 1 my $pre_clean_cache = 0; my $post_clean_cache = 1; my $verbose = 0; my $root = ''; my $bug = ''; my $env = ''; my $log = ''; my $verify_rpm = 1; my $test = 0; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Updates with non-mdk packages - e.g. snort
Hello - all experts: What is your recommended/preferred/used methodology for upgrading previously installed mdk packages, with latest non-mdk rpms or even tar balls, with minimal or no effect on existing conifguration and workings? Example: I have 1.8.7 snort, pre-installed from the mdk packaging, as snort-mysql-1.8.7-..., with its own set of rules and acid for interface. Having tried to update the rules, I found out that 1.8.7 rules haven't been updated in a while, and 1.9.0 are the only ones being actively worked on, they won't work with the 1.8.7 binaries, and I have already setup acid, mysql and snort to work with each other under 1.8.7. I would hate to have to redo evrything from scratch (including re-compiling from source, and reconfiguring the snort-mysql-acid combo), if it would be an easier way/path for upgrade(s). TIA, Stef Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Updates
Charles A Edwards wrote: On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:22:11 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded all the updates (security and otherwise) in RPM form and burned them to CDROM. I was wondering if I could use the software updates app to update my installation of Mandrake 8.1 from that CDROM? Afraid not. Your cd will not contain an hdlist which is what is scanned to get the contents of the cd. But you do not need to do it that way. If you are fairly sure that you will have no unsatisfied depends and/or conflicts then: mount /mnt/cdrom and: cd /mnt/cdrom or the directory if you created such on the cdrom. Then do: rpm -Uvh *rpm This will install all the rpms on the cdrom. Charles You can still do it the command line fashion even if there are dependency issues. Just test for them before attemting to do the upgrade. rpm -Uvh --test *.rpm -- Mark I suppose I should have a pithy saying here... The brain reports all neurons busy processing sub-routines are currently occupied. Retry your query in five minutes. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Updates
Hoyt wrote: On Monday 11 March 2002 03:43 pm, you wrote: But you do not need to do it that way. If you are fairly sure that you will have no unsatisfied depends and/or conflicts then: mount /mnt/cdrom and: cd /mnt/cdrom or the directory if you created such on the cdrom. Then do: rpm -Uvh *rpm This will install all the rpms on the cdrom. Or better, install them with urpmi. That will handle any dependencies. good point! -- Mark I suppose I should have a pithy saying here... The brain reports all neurons busy processing sub-routines are currently occupied. Retry your query in five minutes. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Updates
I downloaded all the updates (security and otherwise) in RPM form and burned them to CDROM. I was wondering if I could use the software updates app to update my installation of Mandrake 8.1 from that CDROM? Thanks! Robert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Updates
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:22:11 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded all the updates (security and otherwise) in RPM form and burned them to CDROM. I was wondering if I could use the software updates app to update my installation of Mandrake 8.1 from that CDROM? Afraid not. Your cd will not contain an hdlist which is what is scanned to get the contents of the cd. But you do not need to do it that way. If you are fairly sure that you will have no unsatisfied depends and/or conflicts then: mount /mnt/cdrom and: cd /mnt/cdrom or the directory if you created such on the cdrom. Then do: rpm -Uvh *rpm This will install all the rpms on the cdrom. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Updates
On Monday 11 March 2002 03:22 pm, you wrote: I downloaded all the updates (security and otherwise) in RPM form and burned them to CDROM. I was wondering if I could use the software updates app to update my installation of Mandrake 8.1 from that CDROM? Thanks! Robert Robert, I would think that you should be able to do that. You might need to add that drive into the update database since it looks for the three disks that came with Mandrake, but I could be in error there. Did you just FTP the files? I couldn't get the Mandrake Update program to obey me. It would say there was something wrong with every single update I tired to download and install. Is that what caused you to download the stuff and burn a CD? -- Jonathan Dlouhy Sunday, March 10, 2002 We should develop anti-satellite weapons because we could not have prevailed without them in `Red Storm Rising'. -- Senator Dan Quayle, 9/6/88 (reported in Esquire, 8/92) Also reported by Newsweek,9/88 Registered Linux user #264482 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Updates
On Monday 11 March 2002 03:43 pm, you wrote: But you do not need to do it that way. If you are fairly sure that you will have no unsatisfied depends and/or conflicts then: mount /mnt/cdrom and: cd /mnt/cdrom or the directory if you created such on the cdrom. Then do: rpm -Uvh *rpm This will install all the rpms on the cdrom. Or better, install them with urpmi. That will handle any dependencies. -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Nothing is impossible to the man that doesn't have to do it himself. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] updates
Hi. Where can i find that updates: - new XX-mdk (especialy security fixes for kernels 2.4.10), - security updates, - some other important bugfixes ? I now that i can use UpdateManager application, butt... it did only find SSH updates (security), and Mozilla (bugfixes)... Well, i think that this is not all, that program must be working wrong or something. I have seen new kernels on www.mandrake.com. Butt - navigathing through that site is difficult. Is there other way to get that updates? Maybe some special website ? Or FTP-server where i can just read changelog and get what i want ? Or something else.. Regards Refuse. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] updates
On Fri Nov 30, 2001 at 04:49:30PM +0100, Gniazdowski wrote: Where can i find that updates: - new XX-mdk (especialy security fixes for kernels 2.4.10), - security updates, - some other important bugfixes ? Pretty much any mirror... take a look at http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ftp.hpp3 for a list of mirrors. Updates will typically be in a Mandrake/updates/[version]/{RPMS,SRPMS} directory on the FTP mirrors. I now that i can use UpdateManager application, butt... it did only find SSH updates (security), and Mozilla (bugfixes)... Well, i think that this is not all, that program must be working wrong or something. You've got a bad mirror. I looked at ftp.stealth.net the other day and the updates there are quite old... it hasn't been updated in quite a while. Find a better mirror. =) MU works fine. I have seen new kernels on www.mandrake.com. Butt - navigathing through that site is difficult. Is there other way to get that updates? Maybe some special website ? Or FTP-server where i can just read changelog and get what i want ? Or something else.. Go to http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/security/ for all the advisories. There you can read the info on each update. -- vdanen (at) mandrakesoft.com, OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD Current Linux kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk uptime: 10 days 21 hours 55 minutes. msg45357/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[expert] Updates (Descent Config utils in Mandrake 8.0 PLEASE!)
I have just read some stuff about MandrakeSoft making new ISO's with all the security fixes etc.. I don't think this is what we need. Ok, it is good if you release some "Updates" CD's for the people that don't have fast connections, but many of us just stick to updates. What we need is (like many have said) good MandrakeUpdate. The one that is in use now in almost at NO use for server installs. I don't have X on many servers, so I can't use MandrakeUpdate and other config tools (since all are X library dependant, even if they have text versions). What we need is a good text mode update system, that could be run from console too. There I would be given an option what I can upgrade and that is it! But don't make it so like MandrakeUpdate is...If there are 3 versions of same update I see all of them...I think we are interested in LATEST one not in older too... This is just my 2 cents...
[expert] Updates
On MandrakeUser it says, "You can keep your Mandrake-Linux distribution up to date by using the 'MandrakeUpdate' program installed on your box." But I find no evidence of such a utility on 7.0.2... Also, anyone know how to change the size of the KDE system font? (in menus, etc) In Gnome you put this in ~/.gtkrc: style "icon" { font="blahblahblah font here" } widget "*DesktopIcon*" style "icon" -- Carl A. Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you... If you don't bet you can't win. S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [expert] Updates broken
I seem to have a problem updating as well, but not exactly the same. Wu-ftpd seems to be a problem. If I attempt to update this package, I receive errors indicating incompatabilities with BeroFTPd. Ken Archer wrote: I seem to have broken Mandrake Updates. I installed 6.0 last week and used Update to ... update it. It worked without a hitch. I have since updated the kernel to 2.2.11 and XFree to 3.3.5 with rpms and added some more KDE programs. Now, when I try Update, I get the error message "Error while fetching the list of upgrade packages. Try another mirrow." I've tried several other mirrors with the same result. Overall, however, I must say I am impressed with Mandrake after using Slackware, Redhat, SuSE and Caldera. It just takes some of us longer to get there :-) -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail -- John J. LeMay Jr. NJMC, LLC. http://www.njmc.com
Re: [expert] updates ...
Linux Group DIFI wrote: Hi, try to use the 2.2.9-27mdk kernel I,ve had the unmount problem too and it's resolved. Yeah but VMWare doesn't work with it. Sheldon. (I hope) R.A.F. Brett Jones wrote: I currently have this problem and have come across no fixes. I've tried the tips in the pcmcia how-to with zero results, and I've tried running the latest 2.2.10 kernel packages from the cooker dist. I'm just running the 2.2.9-19 kernel and living with the umount trouble. Maybe one of the Mandrake soft people have some pointers Brett. I don't know if this has been mentitoned or if you need it, but after upgrading the initscripts package I still had unmount problems. What I found that worked was NOT starting any NFS services. If I leave NFS out I don't get an unmount problem when I shutdown. Hope this helps and that you don't need nfs. :) On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, you wrote: I updated the kernel and initscripts packages due to the unmount problem at shutdown time... well now i have another problem, the cardmgr program can't load the modules for the pcmcia and it saids that's because a lack of memory ... does anybody of you have (or had) the same problem? how did you fixed? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Brett Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- == Sheldon Lee Wen #include disclaimer.h "My opinions are not necessarily those of my employer" == -- == Sheldon Lee Wen #include disclaimer.h "My opinions are not necessarily those of my employer" ==
Re: [expert] updates ...
Hi, try to use the 2.2.9-27mdk kernel I,ve had the unmount problem too and it's resolved. (I hope) R.A.F. Brett Jones wrote: I currently have this problem and have come across no fixes. I've tried the tips in the pcmcia how-to with zero results, and I've tried running the latest 2.2.10 kernel packages from the cooker dist. I'm just running the 2.2.9-19 kernel and living with the umount trouble. Maybe one of the Mandrake soft people have some pointers Brett. I don't know if this has been mentitoned or if you need it, but after upgrading the initscripts package I still had unmount problems. What I found that worked was NOT starting any NFS services. If I leave NFS out I don't get an unmount problem when I shutdown. Hope this helps and that you don't need nfs. :) On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, you wrote: I updated the kernel and initscripts packages due to the unmount problem at shutdown time... well now i have another problem, the cardmgr program can't load the modules for the pcmcia and it saids that's because a lack of memory ... does anybody of you have (or had) the same problem? how did you fixed? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Brett Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- == Sheldon Lee Wen #include disclaimer.h "My opinions are not necessarily those of my employer" ==
Re: [expert] updates ...
I currently have this problem and have come across no fixes. I've tried the tips in the pcmcia how-to with zero results, and I've tried running the latest 2.2.10 kernel packages from the cooker dist. I'm just running the 2.2.9-19 kernel and living with the umount trouble. Maybe one of the Mandrake soft people have some pointers On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, you wrote: I updated the kernel and initscripts packages due to the unmount problem at shutdown time... well now i have another problem, the cardmgr program can't load the modules for the pcmcia and it saids that's because a lack of memory ... does anybody of you have (or had) the same problem? how did you fixed? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Brett Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[expert] updates ...
I updated the kernel and initscripts packages due to the unmount problem at shutdown time... well now i have another problem, the cardmgr program can't load the modules for the pcmcia and it saids that's because a lack of memory ... does anybody of you have (or had) the same problem? how did you fixed? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [expert] updates to GNOME?
Al Niessner wrote: If anyone at Mandrake is reading this group, when are the updates to GNOME going to be ready? The GNOME site is up to 1.0.7 and you are shiping with 1.0.4-7. Please let me know so I can decide if I want to build the RPM myself or wait. Al Did you look to cooker (http://www.linux-mandrake.com/cooker) ? Jacques.
[expert] updates to GNOME?
If anyone at Mandrake is reading this group, when are the updates to GNOME going to be ready? The GNOME site is up to 1.0.7 and you are shiping with 1.0.4-7. Please let me know so I can decide if I want to build the RPM myself or wait. Al
Re: [expert] Updates
Tima Vaisburd wrote: Bernhard Rosenkraentzer wrote: On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Tima Vaisburd wrote: Trying to burn Mandrake-6.0 CD and having a previous experience with RedHat 4.1 - 5.1, I downloaded the 6.0 tree and updates and then "cleverly" replaced the packages from Manrdake/RPMS with updated packages. You should run genhdlist after doing stuff like that. Also, the installator checks the available space, which is nice. Are the sizes hardcoded too? Like the name, they're in a database you can rebuild using genhdlist. genhdlist is in the installer sources what exactly is genhdlist where can i find it how do i use to generate a new hdlist? i already have all the updated rpm's on my hard drive.
Re: [expert] Updates
Bernhard Rosenkraentzer wrote: On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Tima Vaisburd wrote: Trying to burn Mandrake-6.0 CD and having a previous experience with RedHat 4.1 - 5.1, I downloaded the 6.0 tree and updates and then "cleverly" replaced the packages from Manrdake/RPMS with updated packages. You should run genhdlist after doing stuff like that. Also, the installator checks the available space, which is nice. Are the sizes hardcoded too? Like the name, they're in a database you can rebuild using genhdlist. genhdlist is in the installer sources. Thank you all. Yesterday at night I installed updated Mandrake from DOS partition. But it seems the installation from HD partition works well with updated packages too. Could anybody explain why? I have another question related to CD preparation. There were updated glibc-2.1.1-10 packages, that disappeared afterwards. It happens to me to download them. Should they be used? Tima.
Re: [expert] Updates
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Tima Vaisburd wrote: But it seems the installation from HD partition works well with updated packages too. Could anybody explain why? The non-updated packages are not as bad as some people claim. There were updated glibc-2.1.1-10 packages, that disappeared afterwards. It happens to me to download them. Should they be used? Try. For me and a couple of others, 2.1.1-10 works much better than 2.1.1-9, but there have been a couple of reports about 2.1.1-10 not working at all. That's why we removed it. LLaP bero
Re: [expert] Updates
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Tima Vaisburd wrote: Hi all! First of all, thanks for Mandrake. Probably it's a wrong list, nobody calls me an expert, but I myself think I'm not a beginner already ;-) I have a suggestion for a next version of Mandrake. Trying to burn Mandrake-6.0 CD and having a previous experience with RedHat 4.1 - 5.1, I downloaded the 6.0 tree and updates and then "cleverly" replaced the packages from Manrdake/RPMS with updated packages. Thought the disk will be "better than original". You know what happened then ;-) I've got a disk and tried to install, but the names of packages appeared to be hard-coded as a whole, the installation allowed me to choose packages, formatted partitions and then failed to find the kernel, lilo, initscripts etc. Linux went from the comp. So, I think it's maybe better to scan available packages before and choose existing ones for installation. Attempting to regenerate the hdlist may not even be possible in install stages, due to being on a cdrom. Also, the installator checks the available space, which is nice. Are the sizes hardcoded too? My next step would be to move Mandake/ tree to windows partition, change the names to 'before-upgrading' ones and try to install from that partition, but usually updated packages are bigger. Redards, Tima. You'll need a working linux system to modify the packages, cd to the root of the soon tobe cd and exec misc/src/install/genhdlist ./ to get your updated packages into the hdlist
Re: [expert] Updates
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Tima Vaisburd wrote: Trying to burn Mandrake-6.0 CD and having a previous experience with RedHat 4.1 - 5.1, I downloaded the 6.0 tree and updates and then "cleverly" replaced the packages from Manrdake/RPMS with updated packages. You should run genhdlist after doing stuff like that. Also, the installator checks the available space, which is nice. Are the sizes hardcoded too? Like the name, they're in a database you can rebuild using genhdlist. genhdlist is in the installer sources. LLaP bero