Re: OT!!! Re: [expert] YaBir (Yet another Beta install report)
I hope lawyers don't search Google when you need one. Charles - are you an attorney from North Carolina? Jim Tarvid On Monday 13 January 2003 04:31 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Monday 13 January 2003 04:36 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > > > Q: What's the difference between a dead dog in the road and a dead > > lawyer in the road? > > A: There are skid marks in front of the dog. > > Hehehe, I like that - here's another: > > Q: What do you call 100 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? > A: A good start! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
OT!!! Re: [expert] YaBir (Yet another Beta install report)
On Monday 13 January 2003 04:36 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > Q:What's the difference between a dead dog in the road and a dead > lawyer in the road? > A:There are skid marks in front of the dog. Hehehe, I like that - here's another: Q: What do you call 100 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? A: A good start! -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] YaBir (Yet another Beta install report)
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:14:38 +0100 "H.J.Bathoorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As to the lilo-appends: I never got that far. > I just tried to get the Nvidia-kernel to install after rebuilding it > from source. It seemed to install all right (after a download > install-orgy of unsatisfied dependencies) same as the rebuilt GLX rpm > and that was the end of it. When trying startx the screen goes black > and everything hangs including keyboard. So a hard reboot is called > for with a lot of horrible consequences. At the bootsplash press F1 and at the prompt key apci=off and then press enter. This will cause the system to boot on this occasion with apci=off and if the boot to X is successful you can than add it to the append line so that it will occur for subsequent boots/reboots. Charles Q: What's the difference between a dead dog in the road and a dead lawyer in the road? A: There are skid marks in front of the dog. -- Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21-1mdk -- Economists can certainly disappoint you. One said that the economy would turn up by the last quarter. Well, I'm down to mine and it hasn't. -- Robert Orben -- Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21-1mdk -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] YaBir (Yet another Beta install report)
On Monday 13 January 2003 21:35, Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:09:02 +0100 > > "H.J.Bathoorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Strange I had no mishaps like that whatso-ever not on the upgrade nor > > on the clean install. I got mine off the nluug ftp site. > > I also got mine from there. > > The installer will work and perform differently on different > systems/hardware. > This is one of the things the Beta is to help identify so that in the > subsequent betas/rcs,final all or at least as many as is possible > hardware variations can be taken into account and the installer can > perform to the same level and with a high 5 of success. > > > X was indeed automatically configured which is risky indeed. > > > > On the other hand my printer didn't install at least it didn't seem to > > although it was recognized just fine. > > Never got round to trying it though, I've already hosed up the > > clean-install when trying to get the Nvidia drivers working=:o( > > Should've known it wouldn't work. > > Unless I missed it on the cooker list recently, at the moment, on > some systems to use the nvidia drivers you need to append lilo and boot > with apci=off > > > Charles Did the re-install, same problem again with the printers: cups doesn't install. X automatically just did fine though=:o) As to the lilo-appends: I never got that far. I just tried to get the Nvidia-kernel to install after rebuilding it from source. It seemed to install all right (after a download install-orgy of unsatisfied dependencies) same as the rebuilt GLX rpm and that was the end of it. When trying startx the screen goes black and everything hangs including keyboard. So a hard reboot is called for with a lot of horrible consequences. Maybe I'll feel brave again after a few drinks and try a second time=:o) I did save all the downloads. Good Luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] YaBir (Yet another Beta install report)
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:09:02 +0100 "H.J.Bathoorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Strange I had no mishaps like that whatso-ever not on the upgrade nor > on the clean install. I got mine off the nluug ftp site. I also got mine from there. The installer will work and perform differently on different systems/hardware. This is one of the things the Beta is to help identify so that in the subsequent betas/rcs,final all or at least as many as is possible hardware variations can be taken into account and the installer can perform to the same level and with a high 5 of success. > > X was indeed automatically configured which is risky indeed. > > On the other hand my printer didn't install at least it didn't seem to > although it was recognized just fine. > Never got round to trying it though, I've already hosed up the > clean-install when trying to get the Nvidia drivers working=:o( > Should've known it wouldn't work. Unless I missed it on the cooker list recently, at the moment, on some systems to use the nvidia drivers you need to append lilo and boot with apci=off Charles Some of my readers ask me what a "Serial Port" is. The answer is: I don't know. Is it some kind of wine you have with breakfast? -- Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21-1mdk -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] YaBir (Yet another Beta install report)
On Monday 13 January 2003 20:54, Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:42:11 +0100 > > Wolfgang Bornath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You don't happen to recall which magic spell you were muttering just > > when you succeeded? > > I'll tell you one thing, it was not the same damn one I used when I was > trying to get past the individ, pkg selection screen when trying a > graphic install. > > > Charles Strange I had no mishaps like that whatso-ever not on the upgrade nor on the clean install. I got mine off the nluug ftp site. X was indeed automatically configured which is risky indeed. On the other hand my printer didn't install at least it didn't seem to although it was recognized just fine. Never got round to trying it though, I've already hosed up the clean-install when trying to get the Nvidia drivers working=:o( Should've known it wouldn't work. I'll be re-installing again this evening=:o) Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] YaBir (Yet another Beta install report)
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:42:11 +0100 Wolfgang Bornath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You don't happen to recall which magic spell you were muttering just > when you succeeded? I'll tell you one thing, it was not the same damn one I used when I was trying to get past the individ, pkg selection screen when trying a graphic install. Charles Some of my readers ask me what a "Serial Port" is. The answer is: I don't know. Is it some kind of wine you have with breakfast? -- Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21-1mdk -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] YaBir (Yet another Beta install report)
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 14:27 -0500, Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:06:03 +0100 > Wolfgang Bornath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't know where the error during installation of the kernel packet > > comes from. The CD is ok, ISO downloaded with wget, burned with > > cdrecord and md5sum checked. > > > > I'll have another try tomorrow. > > I would not look for much difference in the outcome tomorrow. I'll try to get individual "packet selection" in text install mode. I'll try to get over this system-info loop. I'll try to get the bootloader installed so that I can integrate it into my main lilo.conf I'll try to get some sleep tonight... > I experienced almost the identical scenario on my 650 Athlon, though I > did not get the kernel error. I'll get another ISO from a different server although the mirror I used (University of Munich, Germany) has proved to be a reliable source in the past. > At the System info screen I kept selecting a different item and hitting > next/previous and anything else that looked like a button and finally > the installation went to the next level. You don't happen to recall which magic spell you were muttering just when you succeeded? > To cap my successful installation at first boot I was greeted by a host > of modules not found errors, no sound, no network, blah, blah, blah I'll cross that bridge when > BTW for the Beta1 unless it fails X is auto-configured without allowance > for user input. Thanks, I did mot know this. Normally I don't do Beta testing. I just had no more friendly tasks on my desk for today, only those which I've been pushing from one drawer to the other for weeks now. wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] YaBir (Yet another Beta install report)
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:06:03 +0100 Wolfgang Bornath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know where the error during installation of the kernel packet > comes from. The CD is ok, ISO downloaded with wget, burned with > cdrecord and md5sum checked. > > I'll have another try tomorrow. I would not look for much difference in the outcome tomorrow. I experienced almost the identical scenario on my 650 Athlon, though I did not get the kernel error. At the System info screen I kept selecting a different item and hitting next/previous and anything else that looked like a button and finally the installation went to the next level. To cap my successful installation at first boot I was greeted by a host of modules not found errors, no sound, no network, blah, blah, blah BTW for the Beta1 unless it fails X is auto-configured without allowance for user input. Charles Wit, n.: The salt with which the American Humorist spoils his cookery ... by leaving it out. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" -- Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21-1mdk -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] YaBir (Yet another Beta install report)
Hi, Here goes: Current state of box: 80G hd, 512M RAM, Celeron1100, GeForce4 hda1 Win_C hda5 Win_D hda6 Linux swap hda7 old Linux hda8 old Linux hda9 9.0 hda10 9.0 hda7/8 are old installations and the space is dispensable hda9/10 is my working installation with ReiserFS There's another 20G of free space available. Started with expert mode installation a) Mouse wheel would not work, tested all options. In 9.0 I chose PS/2 Generic Wheelmouse and it worked (Logitech) b) In the partitioning screen I created a new partition (hda11) to be mounted on / with ext3 filesystem. After hitting "Format" it echoed: "no partition hda11 available". Reproduced that 3 times. I then chose hda7 to be / with ext3. This worked. c) Packet selection: the inner screen for individual packet selection is cut off at the bottom so you cannot click on "OK" or "Next" or whatever is supposed to start installation. F12 (next screen) doesn't work here. Started all over in text mode. Same issues as in a) and b). Packet selection did not give me the "individual" option. When installation commenced I realized that although I unmarked GNOME it installed all GNOME packets. There was an error: "Error while installing packet kernel-" I opted to go on. Rest of the installation and post-installation went ok until it came to bootloader installation. I chose to install it in the boot record of the partition. After that it showed the small screen with all informations (country, soundcard, etc.). From there it went into a loop. Whatever I tried (TAB, ENTER, F12, ESC) all brought me to one of the configuration tools for one of the listed items. Had to hit the reset button. I was surprised that it still worked, had not used it for a lng time. d) No X configuration (or does that come after the point where I was "looped"? I don't know where the error during installation of the kernel packet comes from. The CD is ok, ISO downloaded with wget, burned with cdrecord and md5sum checked. I'll have another try tomorrow. wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
