Re: [expert] cron question
Bill Shirley wrote: Before taking that route you might investigate: http://www.bizland.com/ which will give you a free subdomain.bizland.com with website and e-mail. Or, if you have your own domain name but use a dynamic IP address you might check out: http://www.dyndns.com/ along with: http://soa.granitecanyon.com/ to have your domain mapped back to your dial-up IP address so you can use your own server for e-mail, http, etc. http://www.dhs.org is similar to www.dyndns.com and works with dynamic or static IP addresses. I don't know if dyndns.com is free, but dhs.org and either runs on linux or *BSD. Ron -- +--+ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA WWW : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | Most overused words: feel, cool/kewl, fun, myBlah.com| | Most underused word: think | +--+
Re: [expert] cron question
Submitted 06-Jun-00 by Ron Johnson, Jr.: Bill Shirley wrote: Before taking that route you might investigate: http://www.bizland.com/ which will give you a free subdomain.bizland.com with website and e-mail. Or, if you have your own domain name but use a dynamic IP address you might check out: http://www.dyndns.com/ along with: http://soa.granitecanyon.com/ to have your domain mapped back to your dial-up IP address so you can use your own server for e-mail, http, etc. http://www.dhs.org is similar to www.dyndns.com and works with dynamic or static IP addresses. I don't know if dyndns.com is free, but dhs.org and either runs on linux or *BSD. dyndns.com is free for subdomain.dyndns.com, and provide for a small fee dynamic dns hosting for your own domain. -- _ _|_|_ ( ) *Anton Graham /v\ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] /( )X (m_m) GPG ID: 18F78541 Penguin Powered!
Re: [expert] cron question
On Sun, 04 (06/00) at 18:44 +, Fran Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't running netscape as root dangerous? Bambi ---tom:--- Isn't running Netscape at all dangerous? ;) tom "Michael E. Shea" wrote: Alex V Flinsch wrote: On Sun, 04 Jun 2000, you wrote: I am trying to get dynamip (www.dynamip.com) to work with my linux box and cable modem connection. Dynamip gives you a "subdomain.dynamip.com" address for $3 buck a month. To get their service to work with Linux, I will have to use cron to force netscape to open a specific url every 15 minutes. I am in the process of putting together some scripts to do just that. As a test, I did the following. I made a file called "netscapetab" with the contents: #Start of netscapetab #! /bin/sh netscape -noraise -remote 'openurl(http://www.news.com)' #End of netscapetab I did a "chkmod +x netscapetab" to make the script executable. Run from the shell, this script will find the first open netscape window and load up the News.com web site. As a test of cron I modified my crontab as follows #Start of crontab SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin MAILTO=root HOME=/ # run-parts 01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly 02 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily 22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly 42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly */1 * * * * root /usr/bin/netscapetab # Mandrake-Security : if you remove this comment, remove the next line too. 0 0 * * *root/etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security.sh #End of crontab Now /var/log/cron shows /usr/bin/netscapetab running every minute. But my browser window does not open News.com. Any ideas. idea 1 -- your script is running as root, your open netscape window isn't, and can't be found idea 2 -- do you really need to waste all that memory running netscape to get the url? From the above, you just need to hit some website every few minutes to have your dynamic ip assignment working. And I assume that news.com is not the real website that you need to hit, it's probablly something on dynamip.com. Why not try something like wget -O /dev/null http://www.news.com in your crontab instead? -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life) Idea 1 is not the problem, as I ran netscape as root. But idea 2 I really like. I did not know about the wget program. I am going to give that a try. ---end quoted text--- -- Thomas 'tom' Berger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.mandrakeuser.org/ "Alice moving under skies Never seen by waking-eyes" All advice provided without warranty of any kind. I *may* be wrong ...
Re: [expert] cron question
On Mon, Jun 05, 2000 at 07:30:34AM +0200, Sebastian Dransfeld wrote: - On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Alex V Flinsch wrote: - - idea 2 -- - - do you really need to waste all that memory running netscape to get - the url? From the above, you just need to hit some website every few minutes to - have your dynamic ip assignment working. And I assume that news.com is not the - real website that you need to hit, it's probablly something on dynamip.com. Why - not try something like - - wget -O /dev/null http://www.news.com - - in your crontab instead? - - Or use lynx. - - seb If all you need to do is keep your net connection alive, use ping instead. It uses ICMP, which imposes much less traffic on the net than HTTP. -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley
Re: [expert] cron question
You have a good point about netscrappy :) But truthfully...running any internet stuff as root is just not wise. Bambi Tom Berger wrote: On Sun, 04 (06/00) at 18:44 +, Fran Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't running netscape as root dangerous? Bambi ---tom:--- Isn't running Netscape at all dangerous? ;) tom "Michael E. Shea" wrote: Alex V Flinsch wrote: On Sun, 04 Jun 2000, you wrote: I am trying to get dynamip (www.dynamip.com) to work with my linux box and cable modem connection. Dynamip gives you a "subdomain.dynamip.com" address for $3 buck a month. To get their service to work with Linux, I will have to use cron to force netscape to open a specific url every 15 minutes. I am in the process of putting together some scripts to do just that. As a test, I did the following. I made a file called "netscapetab" with the contents: #Start of netscapetab #! /bin/sh netscape -noraise -remote 'openurl(http://www.news.com)' #End of netscapetab I did a "chkmod +x netscapetab" to make the script executable. Run from the shell, this script will find the first open netscape window and load up the News.com web site. As a test of cron I modified my crontab as follows #Start of crontab SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin MAILTO=root HOME=/ # run-parts 01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly 02 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily 22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly 42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly */1 * * * * root /usr/bin/netscapetab # Mandrake-Security : if you remove this comment, remove the next line too. 0 0 * * *root/etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security.sh #End of crontab Now /var/log/cron shows /usr/bin/netscapetab running every minute. But my browser window does not open News.com. Any ideas. idea 1 -- your script is running as root, your open netscape window isn't, and can't be found idea 2 -- do you really need to waste all that memory running netscape to get the url? From the above, you just need to hit some website every few minutes to have your dynamic ip assignment working. And I assume that news.com is not the real website that you need to hit, it's probablly something on dynamip.com. Why not try something like wget -O /dev/null http://www.news.com in your crontab instead? -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life) Idea 1 is not the problem, as I ran netscape as root. But idea 2 I really like. I did not know about the wget program. I am going to give that a try. ---end quoted text--- -- Thomas 'tom' Berger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.mandrakeuser.org/ "Alice moving under skies Never seen by waking-eyes" All advice provided without warranty of any kind. I *may* be wrong ...
[expert] cron question
I am trying to get dynamip (www.dynamip.com) to work with my linux box and cable modem connection. Dynamip gives you a "subdomain.dynamip.com" address for $3 buck a month. To get their service to work with Linux, I will have to use cron to force netscape to open a specific url every 15 minutes. I am in the process of putting together some scripts to do just that. As a test, I did the following. I made a file called "netscapetab" with the contents: #Start of netscapetab #! /bin/sh netscape -noraise -remote 'openurl(http://www.news.com)' #End of netscapetab I did a "chkmod +x netscapetab" to make the script executable. Run from the shell, this script will find the first open netscape window and load up the News.com web site. As a test of cron I modified my crontab as follows #Start of crontab SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin MAILTO=root HOME=/ # run-parts 01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly 02 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily 22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly 42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly */1 * * * * root /usr/bin/netscapetab # Mandrake-Security : if you remove this comment, remove the next line too. 0 0 * * *root/etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security.sh #End of crontab Now /var/log/cron shows /usr/bin/netscapetab running every minute. But my browser window does not open News.com. Any ideas.
Re: [expert] cron question
I'm going to insert my foot on this one, but... as I understand it News Groups are not like email per se and can only be received on your local dial up. I base this on my own experience. I have two ISP accounts; one local one out of state. I connect locally to retrieve/send mail from the second ISP. I cannot get NEWS from the second ISP without logging onto that account. I do not know if this is defacto or a pecularity of that particular ISP. Please don't flame me if I am wrong. I don't belong to a news group. Pj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] cron question
On Sun, 04 Jun 2000, you wrote: I am trying to get dynamip (www.dynamip.com) to work with my linux box and cable modem connection. Dynamip gives you a "subdomain.dynamip.com" address for $3 buck a month. To get their service to work with Linux, I will have to use cron to force netscape to open a specific url every 15 minutes. I am in the process of putting together some scripts to do just that. As a test, I did the following. I made a file called "netscapetab" with the contents: #Start of netscapetab #! /bin/sh netscape -noraise -remote 'openurl(http://www.news.com)' #End of netscapetab I did a "chkmod +x netscapetab" to make the script executable. Run from the shell, this script will find the first open netscape window and load up the News.com web site. As a test of cron I modified my crontab as follows #Start of crontab SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin MAILTO=root HOME=/ # run-parts 01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly 02 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily 22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly 42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly */1 * * * * root /usr/bin/netscapetab # Mandrake-Security : if you remove this comment, remove the next line too. 0 0 * * *root/etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security.sh #End of crontab Now /var/log/cron shows /usr/bin/netscapetab running every minute. But my browser window does not open News.com. Any ideas. idea 1 -- your script is running as root, your open netscape window isn't, and can't be found idea 2 -- do you really need to waste all that memory running netscape to get the url? From the above, you just need to hit some website every few minutes to have your dynamic ip assignment working. And I assume that news.com is not the real website that you need to hit, it's probablly something on dynamip.com. Why not try something like wget -O /dev/null http://www.news.com in your crontab instead? -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [expert] cron question
Alex V Flinsch wrote: On Sun, 04 Jun 2000, you wrote: I am trying to get dynamip (www.dynamip.com) to work with my linux box and cable modem connection. Dynamip gives you a "subdomain.dynamip.com" address for $3 buck a month. To get their service to work with Linux, I will have to use cron to force netscape to open a specific url every 15 minutes. I am in the process of putting together some scripts to do just that. As a test, I did the following. I made a file called "netscapetab" with the contents: #Start of netscapetab #! /bin/sh netscape -noraise -remote 'openurl(http://www.news.com)' #End of netscapetab I did a "chkmod +x netscapetab" to make the script executable. Run from the shell, this script will find the first open netscape window and load up the News.com web site. As a test of cron I modified my crontab as follows #Start of crontab SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin MAILTO=root HOME=/ # run-parts 01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly 02 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily 22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly 42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly */1 * * * * root /usr/bin/netscapetab # Mandrake-Security : if you remove this comment, remove the next line too. 0 0 * * *root/etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security.sh #End of crontab Now /var/log/cron shows /usr/bin/netscapetab running every minute. But my browser window does not open News.com. Any ideas. idea 1 -- your script is running as root, your open netscape window isn't, and can't be found idea 2 -- do you really need to waste all that memory running netscape to get the url? From the above, you just need to hit some website every few minutes to have your dynamic ip assignment working. And I assume that news.com is not the real website that you need to hit, it's probablly something on dynamip.com. Why not try something like wget -O /dev/null http://www.news.com in your crontab instead? -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life) Idea 1 is not the problem, as I ran netscape as root. But idea 2 I really like. I did not know about the wget program. I am going to give that a try.
Re: [expert] cron question
Isn't running netscape as root dangerous? Bambi "Michael E. Shea" wrote: Alex V Flinsch wrote: On Sun, 04 Jun 2000, you wrote: I am trying to get dynamip (www.dynamip.com) to work with my linux box and cable modem connection. Dynamip gives you a "subdomain.dynamip.com" address for $3 buck a month. To get their service to work with Linux, I will have to use cron to force netscape to open a specific url every 15 minutes. I am in the process of putting together some scripts to do just that. As a test, I did the following. I made a file called "netscapetab" with the contents: #Start of netscapetab #! /bin/sh netscape -noraise -remote 'openurl(http://www.news.com)' #End of netscapetab I did a "chkmod +x netscapetab" to make the script executable. Run from the shell, this script will find the first open netscape window and load up the News.com web site. As a test of cron I modified my crontab as follows #Start of crontab SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin MAILTO=root HOME=/ # run-parts 01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly 02 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily 22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly 42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly */1 * * * * root /usr/bin/netscapetab # Mandrake-Security : if you remove this comment, remove the next line too. 0 0 * * *root/etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security.sh #End of crontab Now /var/log/cron shows /usr/bin/netscapetab running every minute. But my browser window does not open News.com. Any ideas. idea 1 -- your script is running as root, your open netscape window isn't, and can't be found idea 2 -- do you really need to waste all that memory running netscape to get the url? From the above, you just need to hit some website every few minutes to have your dynamic ip assignment working. And I assume that news.com is not the real website that you need to hit, it's probablly something on dynamip.com. Why not try something like wget -O /dev/null http://www.news.com in your crontab instead? -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life) Idea 1 is not the problem, as I ran netscape as root. But idea 2 I really like. I did not know about the wget program. I am going to give that a try.
RE: [expert] cron question
Before taking that route you might investigate: http://www.bizland.com/ which will give you a free subdomain.bizland.com with website and e-mail. Or, if you have your own domain name but use a dynamic IP address you might check out: http://www.dyndns.com/ along with: http://soa.granitecanyon.com/ to have your domain mapped back to your dial-up IP address so you can use your own server for e-mail, http, etc. I haven't found the time to get this working for myself, but I belive it can be done. Hope this helps, Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of root Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 3:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] cron question I am trying to get dynamip (www.dynamip.com) to work with my linux box and cable modem connection. Dynamip gives you a "subdomain.dynamip.com" address for $3 buck a month. To get their service to work with Linux, I will have to use cron to force netscape to open a specific url every 15 minutes. I am in the process of putting together some scripts to do just that. As a test, I did the following. I made a file called "netscapetab" with the contents: #Start of netscapetab #! /bin/sh netscape -noraise -remote 'openurl(http://www.news.com)' #End of netscapetab I did a "chkmod +x netscapetab" to make the script executable. Run from the shell, this script will find the first open netscape window and load up the News.com web site. As a test of cron I modified my crontab as follows #Start of crontab SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin MAILTO=root HOME=/ # run-parts 01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly 02 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily 22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly 42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly */1 * * * * root /usr/bin/netscapetab # Mandrake-Security : if you remove this comment, remove the next line too. 0 0 * * *root/etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security.sh #End of crontab Now /var/log/cron shows /usr/bin/netscapetab running every minute. But my browser window does not open News.com. Any ideas.
Re: [expert] cron question
On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Alex V Flinsch wrote: idea 2 -- do you really need to waste all that memory running netscape to get the url? From the above, you just need to hit some website every few minutes to have your dynamic ip assignment working. And I assume that news.com is not the real website that you need to hit, it's probablly something on dynamip.com. Why not try something like wget -O /dev/null http://www.news.com in your crontab instead? Or use lynx. seb
