Re: [expert] Motherboards - again
Hi, I picked up your input to the motherboards thread and wondered how you got everything to work using your K7S5A board. I haven't got the plug and lead for the onboard video and bought an nvidia Geforce2 mx 200 card. this works but above 800x600 the display is bigger than the screen area. which is not what I wanted. tThe NIC is seen but I cannot get it configured and bought a PCI card. I am activelly trying to get this to work properly at present with a thread on this newsgroup and an email to Mandrake support. Any suggestions would be appreciated. tia norm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 10 Feb 2002, Ric Tibbetts wrote: > > > The recent discussions of motherboards has raised a question with me. > > There is always lots of chat about the mid to upper end mobos, but what > > about the lower end? > > > > If I were to put together a budget box, that could still run Linux, and > > be useable, what mobos would you experts recommend? > > This is really just a curiosity question. Not everyone can afford to > > build a box based on the Soyo Dragon+, they may want something resulting > > in a box half that price. > > > > So drag out your calculators, and lets see what can be built on budget > > hardware (must be current stuff. No 486 boxes). > > > I just put together a machine around the ECS K7S5A motherboard and > Athlon XP1400 (~ 1050 MhZ). Other specs include: Matrox Millenium 4MB, > 512M SDRAM (it supports DDR too), Initio SCSI card, 30G 7200 RPM Maxtor > IDE, two extra fans, decent (not the best) case. Everything set me back > ~ 380 $US. 17" monitor (used) was $80 at a local computer fair. It's > very fast. If you're more graphics oriented a generic NVidia card will > set you back another $50 or so. The Millenium works great for regular X > though and the framebuffer console accelerates well. > > >-- > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Motherboards - again
damn, just about any _old_ board, better if you can find one without onboard anything. On Monday 11 February 2002 02:32, you wrote: > The recent discussions of motherboards has raised a question with me. > There is always lots of chat about the mid to upper end mobos, but what > about the lower end? > > If I were to put together a budget box, that could still run Linux, and > be useable, what mobos would you experts recommend? > This is really just a curiosity question. Not everyone can afford to > build a box based on the Soyo Dragon+, they may want something resulting > in a box half that price. > > So drag out your calculators, and lets see what can be built on budget > hardware (must be current stuff. No 486 boxes). > > Thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Motherboards - again
duron 900 or more on a KT133A motherboard.. quite zippy and really very good value.. although the Celerons are now gettin pretty good to. All new Celerons over 1.2 gig now have double sized L2 cache... which makes them very close to PIII's in performance. in fact the only difference between a PIII and a celeron at that sort of speed is the buss speed. (133 for PIII 100 for celeron) so they are very close.. Celerons used to be crap compared to Durons, but they are a good deal too now. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ric Tibbetts Sent: Monday, 11 February 2002 3:32 PM To: Mandrake Expert List Subject: [expert] Motherboards - again The recent discussions of motherboards has raised a question with me. There is always lots of chat about the mid to upper end mobos, but what about the lower end? If I were to put together a budget box, that could still run Linux, and be useable, what mobos would you experts recommend? This is really just a curiosity question. Not everyone can afford to build a box based on the Soyo Dragon+, they may want something resulting in a box half that price. So drag out your calculators, and lets see what can be built on budget hardware (must be current stuff. No 486 boxes). Thanks! -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Motherboards - again
Here's mine. Asus TUSL2 mobo with a Celeron 950mhz CPU This allowed me to keep my ram and PCI cards and at the same time the onboard video gives me 3d accel in XFree864.x If I didn't already have an SB live it also has onboard sound. Runs fine... Fast enough for what I do. and came in at around 200.00 US for the mobo and cpu. James On 10 Feb 2002 23:32:02 -0800 Ric Tibbetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The recent discussions of motherboards has raised a question with me. > There is always lots of chat about the mid to upper end mobos, but what > about the lower end? > > If I were to put together a budget box, that could still run Linux, and > be useable, what mobos would you experts recommend? > This is really just a curiosity question. Not everyone can afford to > build a box based on the Soyo Dragon+, they may want something resulting > in a box half that price. > > So drag out your calculators, and lets see what can be built on budget > hardware (must be current stuff. No 486 boxes). > > Thanks! > > > -- > Ric Tibbetts > > Linux registration number: 55684 > If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to > http://counter.li.org/ > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Motherboards - again
The recent discussions of motherboards has raised a question with me. There is always lots of chat about the mid to upper end mobos, but what about the lower end? If I were to put together a budget box, that could still run Linux, and be useable, what mobos would you experts recommend? This is really just a curiosity question. Not everyone can afford to build a box based on the Soyo Dragon+, they may want something resulting in a box half that price. So drag out your calculators, and lets see what can be built on budget hardware (must be current stuff. No 486 boxes). Thanks! -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] motherboards [OT]
Tim: Mandrake Forum ran a poll last week that showed that about 60% of those responding use some kind of AMD CPU; only about 35% use Intel (Macs and others accounted for the rest). Evidently Linuxers aren't impressed by those little blue critters in the Intel TV ads. -- cmg On Wednesday 12 December 2001 11:22 am, Tim Holmes wrote: > Looks like everybody has joined the 'bandwagon!' > > AMD is the way to go. They do as much, if not more then lower end P4s. > They're also, in some cases 40% of the price. (Depending on speed of > course!) I mean I bought 1.2 Ghz Athlon for like $120 I believe. That's > with 266 FSB as well. I just did a check on a local computer store's > prices, that's now down to $105. > >>> snip > > I would suggest going DDR. Real cheap, and performing very well! I think > we'll move towards that, instead of RAMBUS like M$ and Intel seem to want > us to. > tdh > > -- > > T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 > > > | I'm shopping for a motherboard and CPU. At least a Pentium III and maybe > | I'll spend the bucks for a Pentium 4. I'll consider AMD also. Any > | recommendations? The more PCI slots, the better. But, I want a board > | that's 100% Linux compatible - I don't to spend a couple of months > | trying to make stuff work. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] motherboards
Looks like everybody has joined the 'bandwagon!' AMD is the way to go. They do as much, if not more then lower end P4s. They're also, in some cases 40% of the price. (Depending on speed of course!) I mean I bought 1.2 Ghz Athlon for like $120 I believe. That's with 266 FSB as well. I just did a check on a local computer store's prices, that's now down to $105. Stay from onboard anything really. Unless it's on board ATI, and you don't need a really good graphics card, or on board 3Com. Even with the onboard 3Com NIC, you can run into problems. Onboard sound is always horrible. Most people do infact need to rely on MAGIC to get those onboard chips to work. I can't remember the model number to my motherboard, but it has an onboard IDE controller and it works very well. Though I know some people on the list have slammed it. I think it's the K7133-something. Works very well. With combined parts, I built a 1.2 Athlon, 512 RAM, 50 GB, dual NIC, 52x CD-ROM for right around $500. For the processor and 512 RAMBUS RAM, you will have spent about that I believe. (I already had one NIC, and one HDD I believe.) I would suggest going DDR. Real cheap, and performing very well! I think we'll move towards that, instead of RAMBUS like M$ and Intel seem to want us to. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | I'm shopping for a motherboard and CPU. At least a Pentium III and maybe | I'll spend the bucks for a Pentium 4. I'll consider AMD also. Any | recommendations? The more PCI slots, the better. But, I want a board | that's 100% Linux compatible - I don't to spend a couple of months trying | to make stuff work. | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Uptime --- 11:14AM up 48 days, 23:53, 5 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] motherboards
At 09:08 PM 12/11/2001 -0500, Neal Lippman wrote: > >2. Athlon 1.4Ghz and up with MSI K7T266-Pro2, which supports DDR Ram. >Although I haven't used the board myself, I've heard nothing but good things >about it - this is what I would select if I were building a system today. > >3. The new MSI K7T266-Pro2Ru, which seems to have just been announced, and >which adds onboard RAID, USB 2.0, up to 3GB of PC2100 DDR-Ram, etc. > Any particular brand of DDR works best? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] motherboards
well, I have a KT266A chipset and an Athlon 1800XP,, very good... seems to work fine with 8.1... (the board is an MSI) alot cheaper then a comparable intel chip and board. comparable being a P4 2gig. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lee Roberts Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2001 9:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] motherboards I'm shopping for a motherboard and CPU. At least a Pentium III and maybe I'll spend the bucks for a Pentium 4. I'll consider AMD also. Any recommendations? The more PCI slots, the better. But, I want a board that's 100% Linux compatible - I don't to spend a couple of months trying to make stuff work. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] motherboards
I would have to agree, I have the Asus A7V133, with a 1.4GHz Athlon, and it cost almost half of what a comparable P4 would have. I stayed away from the A7V266, when I was looking in the summer time, the chipset was 1st generation and had some problems. The new Athlon XP's are the same form factor as the old Athlon I have, so I can upgrade my processor without touching my MB (nice for a change) I would go with an Athlon XP over a P4 any day, even my "old" Athlon 1.4 is beating the lower end P4's in benchmarks (Tom's Hardware, Extream PC, etc.) I know with the original (slot A) Athlons, they recomended a 300 watt power supply, and when I was boulding my latest machine, I found a good deal on a ATX case with a 300 watt power supply so I put it in. On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 19:41, Jason Guidry wrote: > Lee Roberts wrote: > > > I'm shopping for a motherboard and CPU. At least a Pentium III and maybe > > I'll spend the bucks for a Pentium 4. I'll consider AMD also. Any > > > Someone can flame me for this, but all the benchmarks show the 1.2 > athlons whooping P4s for half the price. call it the chipset or memory > or whatever, but it's still faster. Not to mention that with a P4 > you'll have to buy new RDRAM memory AND a new power supply. You can use > ATX on an athlon mobo as unless you go for dual athlons. > > you can also take (some) solace that AMD has promised to stay with their > current form factor for the next few years. so theoretically, you can > buy a mobo now for a duron, and later with a bios upgrade, you can > upgrade to the latest whatever they're on by then (it's been a while > since I've read the roadmap). > > I run a KT266-Pro From MSI and it is great. DDR memory, USB 2.0 > support, and It works with mandrake, red hat (6.2 or later) and freeBSD > since 4.3. the audio chip will work with mandrake, but it's not > supported (magic I guess). If you're an audio person I reccomend > grabbing a sound card. no onboard video. -- ...Rob === Robert Goshko Axis Computer Consulting Services, Inc. PresidentSherwood Park, Alberta, Canada Supporting the Revolution In Your World. === msg45993/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] motherboards
Lee Roberts wrote: > I'm shopping for a motherboard and CPU. At least a Pentium III and maybe > I'll spend the bucks for a Pentium 4. I'll consider AMD also. Any Someone can flame me for this, but all the benchmarks show the 1.2 athlons whooping P4s for half the price. call it the chipset or memory or whatever, but it's still faster. Not to mention that with a P4 you'll have to buy new RDRAM memory AND a new power supply. You can use ATX on an athlon mobo as unless you go for dual athlons. you can also take (some) solace that AMD has promised to stay with their current form factor for the next few years. so theoretically, you can buy a mobo now for a duron, and later with a bios upgrade, you can upgrade to the latest whatever they're on by then (it's been a while since I've read the roadmap). I run a KT266-Pro From MSI and it is great. DDR memory, USB 2.0 support, and It works with mandrake, red hat (6.2 or later) and freeBSD since 4.3. the audio chip will work with mandrake, but it's not supported (magic I guess). If you're an audio person I reccomend grabbing a sound card. no onboard video. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] motherboards
On Tuesday 11 December 2001 08:49 pm, you wrote: > I'm shopping for a motherboard and CPU. At least a Pentium III and maybe > I'll spend the bucks for a Pentium 4. I'll consider AMD also. Any > recommendations? The more PCI slots, the better. But, I want a board > that's 100% Linux compatible - I don't to spend a couple of months trying > to make stuff work. My ABIT KG7 works great; 100% compatible My ASUS A7A266 has a problem with the Winbond clock chip that makes it unsuitable IMHO. I use it for my Windows box now. Both running AMD Athlons. Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] motherboards
I'm shopping for a motherboard and CPU. At least a Pentium III and maybe I'll spend the bucks for a Pentium 4. I'll consider AMD also. Any recommendations? The more PCI slots, the better. But, I want a board that's 100% Linux compatible - I don't to spend a couple of months trying to make stuff work. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
