Re: [expert] pcmcia nic weirdness - more ;(
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 02:12, stefmit wrote: > On Sunday 28 September 2003 11:00 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 19:56, stefmit wrote: > > > Sorry to interject, but I'll grasp on the opportunity: I just lost my > > > previous PCMCIA card (broke a pin, by stepping on the cable), which was a > > > Xircom Realport NIC+modem, and - obviously - decided to change it with a > > > new one (other type, though). ... tallking about frustration!!! I have > > > tried two different cards - so far: a Netgear FA511 and a Xircom XE2000. > > > Both are detected correctly, but none would work with DHCP anymore (the > > > original one did). And even under the scenario of having to manually > > > change the IP addresses between home and work (where is that multiple > > > profile - promised land thingy?!?), it works only if running first > > > drakconf, changing everything (IP, mask, gateway, DNS, etc.), NOT working > > > - though - the first time, then running # ifconfig eth0 with the > > > parameters needed to setup the IP and netmask, then running # route for > > > the new default - and, at this stage, the things still won't work - then > > > again drakconf - after which - finally - the network starts properly. > > > Attempted between each of the above steps a "service network restart", > > > with the eth0 always failing ... and "NO" - it won't work if I would just > > > run ifconfig first, then drakconf: it seems to work only if: changes in > > > drakconf --> no go --> ifconfig eth0 and route --> no go --> again > > > drakconf --> finally! ... > > > > > > ... I know someone posted earlier in the month a series of (rightful) > > > jokes about W2K and networking setup ... I was laughing too much and I > > > got punished ;) ... my MDK9.1 on a Toshiba 8100 is no different now - an > > > ongoing exercise in futility. > > > > > > Stef > > > > Stef > > > > Had this problem as well myself a while back. Switched from a > > Linksys to a D-Link. My problem came with the persistence of Hotplug in > > that it kept loading the module for the linksys system, and refusing to > > load the module for the d-link. I had to remove all mention of their > > ever being a linksys card. Reboot the box (out of frustration more than > > anything.) and then re-insert and things started to work. I've also > > learned on Toshiba and compaq, that if you have wired + wireless, > > configure the wireless first then insert the wired and configure it. > > (so it's eth1) then whenever I use wireless I have to insert both cards, > > so that the wired card gets detected as eth1 not eth0. This seems to > > be a function of hardware not software as other boxes tend to divide by > > slot not by how many are inserted. (Yes on my compaq if I remove the > > first card I inserted the second card get switched from eth1 to eth0) > > > > Advantage here. He has/had nothing configured. No legacy to destroy. > > > > James > > James, > > Thanks for the quick response ... I think you are right about the hotplug, but > I am not sure where to "remove all mention of their being a" . > Can you point me some places? I will start grep-ing all over right now, but > if you would be kind enough to point to the stored info of such it would be > much appreciated. > > Thx, > Stef Steff my Linksys had a setting in /etc/modules.conf On the rest I honestly fuddled with it till I had it working. most of it was done by working through the files in /etc/sysconfig/networking and removing any and all mention on ever having had a network. One minor thing I also did (which made bootup nicer too.) was "chkconfig network off" Since pcmcia starts the network not having the pci network attempt made actually made it possible to use my wireless card (a happy accident.) James > > > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pcmcia nic weirdness - more ;(
Sorry guys... I know the attribution is wrong... reporting as a bug to sylpheed-claws now... On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 07:20:23 -0400 Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:00:02 -0700 James Sparenberg > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > different cards - so far: a Netgear FA511 and a Xircom XE2000. Both > > > are detected correctly, but none would work with DHCP anymore (the > > > original one did). And even under the scenario of having to manually > > > change the IP addresses between home and work (where is that > > > multiple profile - promised land thingy?!?), it works only if > > > running first drakconf, changing everything (IP, mask, gateway, DNS, > > > etc.), NOT working - though - the first time, then running # > > > ifconfig eth0 with the parameters needed to setup the IP and > > > netmask, then running # route for the new default - and, at this > > > stage, the things still won't work - then again drakconf - after > > > which - finally - the network starts properly. Attempted between > > > each of the above steps a "service network restart", with the eth0 > > > always failing ... and "NO" - it won't work if I would just run > > > ifconfig first, then drakconf: it seems to work only if: changes in > > > drakconf --> no go --> ifconfig eth0 and route --> no go --> again > > > drakconf --> finally! ... > > Wish I'd seen this sooner... *appears* I had this very problem with > 9.2rc2 while on a road trip last week, though I never thought of > retrying the conf TWICE... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pcmcia nic weirdness - more ;(
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:00:02 -0700 James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > different cards - so far: a Netgear FA511 and a Xircom XE2000. Both > > are detected correctly, but none would work with DHCP anymore (the > > original one did). And even under the scenario of having to manually > > change the IP addresses between home and work (where is that multiple > > profile - promised land thingy?!?), it works only if running first > > drakconf, changing everything (IP, mask, gateway, DNS, etc.), NOT > > working - though - the first time, then running # ifconfig eth0 with > > the parameters needed to setup the IP and netmask, then running # > > route for the new default - and, at this stage, the things still won't > > work - then again drakconf - after which - finally - the network > > starts properly. Attempted between each of the above steps a "service > > network restart", with the eth0 always failing ... and "NO" - it won't > > work if I would just run ifconfig first, then drakconf: it seems to > > work only if: changes in drakconf --> no go --> ifconfig eth0 and > > route --> no go --> again drakconf --> finally! ... Wish I'd seen this sooner... *appears* I had this very problem with 9.2rc2 while on a road trip last week, though I never thought of retrying the conf TWICE... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pcmcia nic weirdness - more ;(
On Sunday 28 September 2003 11:00 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 19:56, stefmit wrote: > > Sorry to interject, but I'll grasp on the opportunity: I just lost my > > previous PCMCIA card (broke a pin, by stepping on the cable), which was a > > Xircom Realport NIC+modem, and - obviously - decided to change it with a > > new one (other type, though). ... tallking about frustration!!! I have > > tried two different cards - so far: a Netgear FA511 and a Xircom XE2000. > > Both are detected correctly, but none would work with DHCP anymore (the > > original one did). And even under the scenario of having to manually > > change the IP addresses between home and work (where is that multiple > > profile - promised land thingy?!?), it works only if running first > > drakconf, changing everything (IP, mask, gateway, DNS, etc.), NOT working > > - though - the first time, then running # ifconfig eth0 with the > > parameters needed to setup the IP and netmask, then running # route for > > the new default - and, at this stage, the things still won't work - then > > again drakconf - after which - finally - the network starts properly. > > Attempted between each of the above steps a "service network restart", > > with the eth0 always failing ... and "NO" - it won't work if I would just > > run ifconfig first, then drakconf: it seems to work only if: changes in > > drakconf --> no go --> ifconfig eth0 and route --> no go --> again > > drakconf --> finally! ... > > > > ... I know someone posted earlier in the month a series of (rightful) > > jokes about W2K and networking setup ... I was laughing too much and I > > got punished ;) ... my MDK9.1 on a Toshiba 8100 is no different now - an > > ongoing exercise in futility. > > > > Stef > > Stef > > Had this problem as well myself a while back. Switched from a > Linksys to a D-Link. My problem came with the persistence of Hotplug in > that it kept loading the module for the linksys system, and refusing to > load the module for the d-link. I had to remove all mention of their > ever being a linksys card. Reboot the box (out of frustration more than > anything.) and then re-insert and things started to work. I've also > learned on Toshiba and compaq, that if you have wired + wireless, > configure the wireless first then insert the wired and configure it. > (so it's eth1) then whenever I use wireless I have to insert both cards, > so that the wired card gets detected as eth1 not eth0. This seems to > be a function of hardware not software as other boxes tend to divide by > slot not by how many are inserted. (Yes on my compaq if I remove the > first card I inserted the second card get switched from eth1 to eth0) > > Advantage here. He has/had nothing configured. No legacy to destroy. > > James James, Thanks for the quick response ... I think you are right about the hotplug, but I am not sure where to "remove all mention of their being a" . Can you point me some places? I will start grep-ing all over right now, but if you would be kind enough to point to the stored info of such it would be much appreciated. Thx, Stef Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pcmcia nic weirdness - more ;(
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 19:56, stefmit wrote: > On Saturday 27 September 2003 08:18 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 17:45, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 14:40, Joe Sprankle wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have just installed Mandrake 9.1 on a Toshiba Protege 7140 laptop. > > > > The laptop doesn't have a cdrom so I installed via a pcmcia cdrom. I > > > > only have one pcmcia slot so my pcmcia nic wasn't set up during > > > > inststall. Now installation is complete and for the life of me I can't > > > > seem to get this nic to configure via dhcp. I know my dhcp server is > > > > ok, I checked it with another box. I know the card is working because I > > > > can bring it up via ifconfig and ping the dhcp sever. > > > > In the past with other distros I could simply edit the > > > > /etc/pcmcia/network.opts script and viola. No so here. If I run > > > > /etc/pcmcia/network start eth0 it doesn't show any error nor do > > > > anything. I tried using the Mandrake Control Center and no matter what > > > > I try, the wizzard, or even doing a static ip in expert mode I get "not > > > > connected" Any ideas? > > > > Joe > > > > > > Couple of questions. > > > > > > 1. if you do cardctl Does it find your card correctly. > > > 2. When you insert the card do you here the beep beep not a beep bonk? > > > 3. Besides /etc/sysconfig/netweork-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 you also should > > > have /etc/sysconfig/network in place. > > > > > > HOSTNAME=[your host name here] > > > NETWORKING=yes > > > > > > is how network should look > > > > > > and > > > > > > DEVICE=eth1 > > > > oops this should have been DEVICE=eth0 > > > > > BOOTPROTO=dhcp > > > ONBOOT=yes > > > > > > is how ifcfg-eth0 should look. > > > > > > now for the most important file /etc/syconfig/pcmcia. This one has bit > > > me a couple of times. > > > > > > PCMCIA=yes > > > PCIC=yenta_socket > > > PCIC_OPTS=do_scan=0 > > > CORE_OPTS= > > > CARDMGR_OPTS=-f > > > > > > is mine the first two lines are the most important. Odds on if you > > > didn't have a pcmcia card in there during boot it says pcmcia=no. The > > > last 3 lines are ones that AFAIK are unique to my card here. Yours may > > > need to be just blank, But it does work on both my wireless and on my > > > wired cards. > > > > > > James > > Sorry to interject, but I'll grasp on the opportunity: I just lost my previous > PCMCIA card (broke a pin, by stepping on the cable), which was a Xircom > Realport NIC+modem, and - obviously - decided to change it with a new one > (other type, though). ... tallking about frustration!!! I have tried two > different cards - so far: a Netgear FA511 and a Xircom XE2000. Both are > detected correctly, but none would work with DHCP anymore (the original one > did). And even under the scenario of having to manually change the IP > addresses between home and work (where is that multiple profile - promised > land thingy?!?), it works only if running first drakconf, changing everything > (IP, mask, gateway, DNS, etc.), NOT working - though - the first time, then > running # ifconfig eth0 with the parameters needed to setup the IP and > netmask, then running # route for the new default - and, at this stage, the > things still won't work - then again drakconf - after which - finally - the > network starts properly. Attempted between each of the above steps a "service > network restart", with the eth0 always failing ... and "NO" - it won't work > if I would just run ifconfig first, then drakconf: it seems to work only if: > changes in drakconf --> no go --> ifconfig eth0 and route --> no go --> again > drakconf --> finally! ... > > ... I know someone posted earlier in the month a series of (rightful) jokes > about W2K and networking setup ... I was laughing too much and I got punished > ;) ... my MDK9.1 on a Toshiba 8100 is no different now - an ongoing exercise > in futility. > > Stef Stef Had this problem as well myself a while back. Switched from a Linksys to a D-Link. My problem came with the persistence of Hotplug in that it kept loading the module for the linksys system, and refusing to load the module for the d-link. I had to remove all mention of their ever being a linksys card. Reboot the box (out of frustration more than anything.) and then re-insert and things started to work. I've also learned on Toshiba and compaq, that if you have wired + wireless, configure the wireless first then insert the wired and configure it. (so it's eth1) then whenever I use wireless I have to insert both cards, so that the wired card gets detected as eth1 not eth0. This seems to be a function of hardware not software as other boxes tend to divide by slot not by how many are inserted. (Yes on my compaq if I remove the first card I inserted the second card get switched from eth1 to eth0) Advantage here. He has/had nothing configured. No legacy to destroy. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandrake
Re: [expert] pcmcia nic weirdness - more ;(
On Saturday 27 September 2003 08:18 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 17:45, James Sparenberg wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 14:40, Joe Sprankle wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > I have just installed Mandrake 9.1 on a Toshiba Protege 7140 laptop. > > > The laptop doesn't have a cdrom so I installed via a pcmcia cdrom. I > > > only have one pcmcia slot so my pcmcia nic wasn't set up during > > > inststall. Now installation is complete and for the life of me I can't > > > seem to get this nic to configure via dhcp. I know my dhcp server is > > > ok, I checked it with another box. I know the card is working because I > > > can bring it up via ifconfig and ping the dhcp sever. > > > In the past with other distros I could simply edit the > > > /etc/pcmcia/network.opts script and viola. No so here. If I run > > > /etc/pcmcia/network start eth0 it doesn't show any error nor do > > > anything. I tried using the Mandrake Control Center and no matter what > > > I try, the wizzard, or even doing a static ip in expert mode I get "not > > > connected" Any ideas? > > > Joe > > > > Couple of questions. > > > > 1. if you do cardctl Does it find your card correctly. > > 2. When you insert the card do you here the beep beep not a beep bonk? > > 3. Besides /etc/sysconfig/netweork-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 you also should > > have /etc/sysconfig/network in place. > > > > HOSTNAME=[your host name here] > > NETWORKING=yes > > > > is how network should look > > > > and > > > > DEVICE=eth1 > > oops this should have been DEVICE=eth0 > > > BOOTPROTO=dhcp > > ONBOOT=yes > > > > is how ifcfg-eth0 should look. > > > > now for the most important file /etc/syconfig/pcmcia. This one has bit > > me a couple of times. > > > > PCMCIA=yes > > PCIC=yenta_socket > > PCIC_OPTS=do_scan=0 > > CORE_OPTS= > > CARDMGR_OPTS=-f > > > > is mine the first two lines are the most important. Odds on if you > > didn't have a pcmcia card in there during boot it says pcmcia=no. The > > last 3 lines are ones that AFAIK are unique to my card here. Yours may > > need to be just blank, But it does work on both my wireless and on my > > wired cards. > > > > James Sorry to interject, but I'll grasp on the opportunity: I just lost my previous PCMCIA card (broke a pin, by stepping on the cable), which was a Xircom Realport NIC+modem, and - obviously - decided to change it with a new one (other type, though). ... tallking about frustration!!! I have tried two different cards - so far: a Netgear FA511 and a Xircom XE2000. Both are detected correctly, but none would work with DHCP anymore (the original one did). And even under the scenario of having to manually change the IP addresses between home and work (where is that multiple profile - promised land thingy?!?), it works only if running first drakconf, changing everything (IP, mask, gateway, DNS, etc.), NOT working - though - the first time, then running # ifconfig eth0 with the parameters needed to setup the IP and netmask, then running # route for the new default - and, at this stage, the things still won't work - then again drakconf - after which - finally - the network starts properly. Attempted between each of the above steps a "service network restart", with the eth0 always failing ... and "NO" - it won't work if I would just run ifconfig first, then drakconf: it seems to work only if: changes in drakconf --> no go --> ifconfig eth0 and route --> no go --> again drakconf --> finally! ... ... I know someone posted earlier in the month a series of (rightful) jokes about W2K and networking setup ... I was laughing too much and I got punished ;) ... my MDK9.1 on a Toshiba 8100 is no different now - an ongoing exercise in futility. Stef Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
