Re: [expert] root login !
El Sábado, 5 de Abril de 2003 18:51, richard bown escribió sabiamente: > Hi all, > how do I log in as root from the standard X login on MDK9.1. > The users are iconised so there's now way of entering the user ar root > as you use to be able to on previous versions. > I need to set up xcdroast which has to be done as root.. > > TIA > Richard You can use "su" command to run xcdroast as root... su -c xcdroast -- Óscar Santacreu Usuario de Linux Registrado #227443 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] root login !
On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 09:14, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Saturday 05 April 2003 11:51 am, richard bown wrote: > > Hi all, > > how do I log in as root from the standard X login on MDK9.1. > > The users are iconised so there's now way of entering the user ar root > > as you use to be able to on previous versions. > > I need to set up xcdroast which has to be done as root.. > > > It is a misnomer that one must log into the gui as root (which is very > dangerous) IMHO no more dangerous than an su. Basically if you don't know what you are doing everything is dangerous. Dangerous is your 16 year old asking for the car keys. Dangerous is a religious fanatic with a plan. Dangerous is a platoon of enemy soldiers and you only have one clip left. Running as root is reason for caution. Not life threatening. James > in order to run gui apps with root access. In order to run > xcdroast as root, simply open a terminal, type su, enter the root password > and then enter xcdroot. The program is now running with all root > proviledges. This can be done for anty app. BTW, this method is also far > faster than logging out, logging in as root, logging out and logging in as > user again. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] root login !
On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 09:04, richard bown wrote: > Thanks I'll try that, I'm using gnome at the moment, so lets try kde > thanks > richard > > On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 17:55, Rolf Pedersen wrote: > > richard bown wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > how do I log in as root from the standard X login on MDK9.1. > > > The users are iconised so there's now way of entering the user ar root > > > as you use to be able to on previous versions. > > > I need to set up xcdroast which has to be done as root.. > > > > > > TIA > > > Richard > > > > > > > Assuming kde, in kcontrol > system > login manager > administrator mode > > > users, you can 'unhide' root and a root icon should appear at login. > > Another way... at the command line run drakedm and then choose one of the other dm's (GDM KDM or TWM) they will allow a root login. Note it may ask for your disk as the default install only gives you mdkkdm James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] root login !
Richard, Go to a console, and su to root, and type xcdroast, and enter. Xcdroast will start, then there's a box where you can add users, and select to allow user permissions. Robert Crawford On Saturday 05 April 2003 04:51 pm, richard bown wrote: > Hi all, > how do I log in as root from the standard X login on MDK9.1. > The users are iconised so there's now way of entering the user ar root > as you use to be able to on previous versions. > I need to set up xcdroast which has to be done as root.. > > TIA > Richard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] root login !
Ok Greg point noted, Thats a useful one to remember Richard On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 18:14, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Saturday 05 April 2003 11:51 am, richard bown wrote: > > Hi all, > > how do I log in as root from the standard X login on MDK9.1. > > The users are iconised so there's now way of entering the user ar root > > as you use to be able to on previous versions. > > I need to set up xcdroast which has to be done as root.. > > > It is a misnomer that one must log into the gui as root (which is very > dangerous) in order to run gui apps with root access. In order to run > xcdroast as root, simply open a terminal, type su, enter the root password > and then enter xcdroot. The program is now running with all root > proviledges. This can be done for anty app. BTW, this method is also far > faster than logging out, logging in as root, logging out and logging in as > user again. -- richard bown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] root login !
On Saturday 05 April 2003 11:51 am, richard bown wrote: > Hi all, > how do I log in as root from the standard X login on MDK9.1. > The users are iconised so there's now way of entering the user ar root > as you use to be able to on previous versions. > I need to set up xcdroast which has to be done as root.. > It is a misnomer that one must log into the gui as root (which is very dangerous) in order to run gui apps with root access. In order to run xcdroast as root, simply open a terminal, type su, enter the root password and then enter xcdroot. The program is now running with all root proviledges. This can be done for anty app. BTW, this method is also far faster than logging out, logging in as root, logging out and logging in as user again. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] root login !
richard bown said: > Hi all, > how do I log in as root from the standard X login on MDK9.1. > The users are iconised so there's now way of entering the user ar root > as you use to be able to on previous versions. > I need to set up xcdroast which has to be done as root.. > Open a console, type 'su', enter root password, type 'xcdroast'. Configure xcdroast, and allow your user account to use xcdroast. After this no more requirement for root to run xcdroast. -- Live fast, die young, You're sucking up my bandwidth. J.P. Pasnak, CD CCNA http://www.warpedsystems.sk.ca Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] root login !
Thanks I'll try that, I'm using gnome at the moment, so lets try kde thanks richard On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 17:55, Rolf Pedersen wrote: > richard bown wrote: > > Hi all, > > how do I log in as root from the standard X login on MDK9.1. > > The users are iconised so there's now way of entering the user ar root > > as you use to be able to on previous versions. > > I need to set up xcdroast which has to be done as root.. > > > > TIA > > Richard > > > > Assuming kde, in kcontrol > system > login manager > administrator mode > > users, you can 'unhide' root and a root icon should appear at login. > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- richard bown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] root login !
richard bown wrote: Hi all, how do I log in as root from the standard X login on MDK9.1. The users are iconised so there's now way of entering the user ar root as you use to be able to on previous versions. I need to set up xcdroast which has to be done as root.. TIA Richard Assuming kde, in kcontrol > system > login manager > administrator mode > users, you can 'unhide' root and a root icon should appear at login. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] root login !
Hi all, how do I log in as root from the standard X login on MDK9.1. The users are iconised so there's now way of entering the user ar root as you use to be able to on previous versions. I need to set up xcdroast which has to be done as root.. TIA Richard -- richard bown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Root login timeout
Hi James, the security level is standard and carnt go lower in MCC. The security permissions is level 2. Just did a telnet from another box and it hasnt timed out where the dumb terminal has, looks like its a agetty thing. Tried S1:345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -t 28800 9600 ttyS1 but that didn't work either. Gary. On Sun, 2002-10-27 at 13:28, James Sparenberg wrote: > Someone had mentioned once that the highest setting in msec actually has > a login timeout. Backing off the highest level or changeing the setting > in /etc/msec should help. > > James > > (My cure for msec problems is a bit more drastic... rpm -e msec *grin*) > > On Sat, 2002-10-26 at 10:30, Dianne Marie Montesa wrote: > > hi gary > > > > okay its a global setting since it affects both root > > and others. what is your security setting? how about > > trying to lower the security level just to test > > whether this also happens. > > > > im running out of ideas ... its already draining my > > 1/8 brain =P > > > > cheers > > dianne > > > > --- Gary Hodder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Dianne, > > > > > > logging out happens for root and other users. > > > Leaving it at a login prompt and not logging in, it > > > recycles the login > > > prompt with another. > > > So if you login and do nothing it logs out after a > > > 15 minutes. > > > This behavior did not happen in 8.2, its only in 9. > > > > > > Gary. > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-10-26 at 00:09, Dianne Marie Montesa > > > wrote: > > > > hi gary > > > > > > > > not sure what is really happening on your system. > > > i > > > > dont have a serial dumb terminal to simulate it. > > > but > > > > maybe i can help you troubleshoot whats causing > > > it. > > > > > > > > and i think it has nothing to do with agetty since > > > you > > > > already passed stage after you logged in. the > > > problem > > > > could be some setting after you logged in. > > > > > > > > does the logging out only happen to root user? > > > > are you logged-out by the system even if you dont > > > run > > > > the menu script you mentioned? > > > > have you checked that menu script whether it has a > > > > timeout set? > > > > > > > > hth > > > > dianne > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Gary Hodder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Dianne, > > > > > > > > > > I have checked checked bash --verbose and > > > TMOUT=0 > > > > > The timeout only happens on the dumb terminal > > > > > plugged in via a serial > > > > > port and not on the console. > > > > > Have tried adding a long timeout on the agetty > > > > > command line in inattab > > > > > with no luck. > > > > > What else can I try? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Gary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > > > > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from > > > MandrakeSoft? > > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from > > MandrakeSoft? > > > > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Root login timeout
Someone had mentioned once that the highest setting in msec actually has a login timeout. Backing off the highest level or changeing the setting in /etc/msec should help. James (My cure for msec problems is a bit more drastic... rpm -e msec *grin*) On Sat, 2002-10-26 at 10:30, Dianne Marie Montesa wrote: > hi gary > > okay its a global setting since it affects both root > and others. what is your security setting? how about > trying to lower the security level just to test > whether this also happens. > > im running out of ideas ... its already draining my > 1/8 brain =P > > cheers > dianne > > --- Gary Hodder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Dianne, > > > > logging out happens for root and other users. > > Leaving it at a login prompt and not logging in, it > > recycles the login > > prompt with another. > > So if you login and do nothing it logs out after a > > 15 minutes. > > This behavior did not happen in 8.2, its only in 9. > > > > Gary. > > > > On Sat, 2002-10-26 at 00:09, Dianne Marie Montesa > > wrote: > > > hi gary > > > > > > not sure what is really happening on your system. > > i > > > dont have a serial dumb terminal to simulate it. > > but > > > maybe i can help you troubleshoot whats causing > > it. > > > > > > and i think it has nothing to do with agetty since > > you > > > already passed stage after you logged in. the > > problem > > > could be some setting after you logged in. > > > > > > does the logging out only happen to root user? > > > are you logged-out by the system even if you dont > > run > > > the menu script you mentioned? > > > have you checked that menu script whether it has a > > > timeout set? > > > > > > hth > > > dianne > > > > > > > > > --- Gary Hodder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi Dianne, > > > > > > > > I have checked checked bash --verbose and > > TMOUT=0 > > > > The timeout only happens on the dumb terminal > > > > plugged in via a serial > > > > port and not on the console. > > > > Have tried adding a long timeout on the agetty > > > > command line in inattab > > > > with no luck. > > > > What else can I try? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Gary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > > > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from > > MandrakeSoft? > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from > MandrakeSoft? > > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Root login timeout
hi gary okay its a global setting since it affects both root and others. what is your security setting? how about trying to lower the security level just to test whether this also happens. im running out of ideas ... its already draining my 1/8 brain =P cheers dianne --- Gary Hodder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Dianne, > > logging out happens for root and other users. > Leaving it at a login prompt and not logging in, it > recycles the login > prompt with another. > So if you login and do nothing it logs out after a > 15 minutes. > This behavior did not happen in 8.2, its only in 9. > > Gary. > > On Sat, 2002-10-26 at 00:09, Dianne Marie Montesa > wrote: > > hi gary > > > > not sure what is really happening on your system. > i > > dont have a serial dumb terminal to simulate it. > but > > maybe i can help you troubleshoot whats causing > it. > > > > and i think it has nothing to do with agetty since > you > > already passed stage after you logged in. the > problem > > could be some setting after you logged in. > > > > does the logging out only happen to root user? > > are you logged-out by the system even if you dont > run > > the menu script you mentioned? > > have you checked that menu script whether it has a > > timeout set? > > > > hth > > dianne > > > > > > --- Gary Hodder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Dianne, > > > > > > I have checked checked bash --verbose and > TMOUT=0 > > > The timeout only happens on the dumb terminal > > > plugged in via a serial > > > port and not on the console. > > > Have tried adding a long timeout on the agetty > > > command line in inattab > > > with no luck. > > > What else can I try? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Gary. > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from > MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Root login timeout
Hi Dianne, logging out happens for root and other users. Leaving it at a login prompt and not logging in, it recycles the login prompt with another. So if you login and do nothing it logs out after a 15 minutes. This behavior did not happen in 8.2, its only in 9. Gary. On Sat, 2002-10-26 at 00:09, Dianne Marie Montesa wrote: > hi gary > > not sure what is really happening on your system. i > dont have a serial dumb terminal to simulate it. but > maybe i can help you troubleshoot whats causing it. > > and i think it has nothing to do with agetty since you > already passed stage after you logged in. the problem > could be some setting after you logged in. > > does the logging out only happen to root user? > are you logged-out by the system even if you dont run > the menu script you mentioned? > have you checked that menu script whether it has a > timeout set? > > hth > dianne > > > --- Gary Hodder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Dianne, > > > > I have checked checked bash --verbose and TMOUT=0 > > The timeout only happens on the dumb terminal > > plugged in via a serial > > port and not on the console. > > Have tried adding a long timeout on the agetty > > command line in inattab > > with no luck. > > What else can I try? > > > > Thanks > > Gary. > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Root login timeout
hi gary not sure what is really happening on your system. i dont have a serial dumb terminal to simulate it. but maybe i can help you troubleshoot whats causing it. and i think it has nothing to do with agetty since you already passed stage after you logged in. the problem could be some setting after you logged in. does the logging out only happen to root user? are you logged-out by the system even if you dont run the menu script you mentioned? have you checked that menu script whether it has a timeout set? hth dianne --- Gary Hodder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Dianne, > > I have checked checked bash --verbose and TMOUT=0 > The timeout only happens on the dumb terminal > plugged in via a serial > port and not on the console. > Have tried adding a long timeout on the agetty > command line in inattab > with no luck. > What else can I try? > > Thanks > Gary. > __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Root login timeout
Hi Dianne, I have checked checked bash --verbose and TMOUT=0 The timeout only happens on the dumb terminal plugged in via a serial port and not on the console. Have tried adding a long timeout on the agetty command line in inattab with no luck. What else can I try? Thanks Gary. On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 22:38, Dianne Marie Montesa wrote: > hi gary > > check out an environment variable TMOUT from your > system's /etc/profile or your own profile ~/.profile. > > its the one that controls logging out when there was > no activity for a period of time. > > man bash to know more about it. > > hth > dianne > > --- Gary Hodder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I use a dumb terminal to login and run a menu script > > as root. > > After a short period of no activity the session is > > automatically logged > > out. > > How can I stop this or increase the time before auto > > logout? > > > > Thanks > > Gary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from > MandrakeSoft? > > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Root login timeout
hi gary check out an environment variable TMOUT from your system's /etc/profile or your own profile ~/.profile. its the one that controls logging out when there was no activity for a period of time. man bash to know more about it. hth dianne --- Gary Hodder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I use a dumb terminal to login and run a menu script > as root. > After a short period of no activity the session is > automatically logged > out. > How can I stop this or increase the time before auto > logout? > > Thanks > Gary. > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Root login timeout
>From info page for bash `TMOUT' If set to a value greater than zero, the value is interpreted as the number of seconds to wait for input after issuing the primary prompt when the shell is interactive. Bash terminates after that number of seconds if input does not arrive. On Thursday 24 October 2002 03:57 am, Gary Hodder wrote: > Hi all, > > I use a dumb terminal to login and run a menu script as root. > After a short period of no activity the session is automatically logged > out. > How can I stop this or increase the time before auto logout? > > Thanks > Gary. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Root login timeout
Hi all, I use a dumb terminal to login and run a menu script as root. After a short period of no activity the session is automatically logged out. How can I stop this or increase the time before auto logout? Thanks Gary. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
