Re: [expert] 9.1Beta2 - no way to install it here
Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 15:55 -0500, Mark Weaver wrote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Hi wobo.. as far as your wheeled mouse thats likely the easiest part. just go with the generic two button, or generic wheel mouse. I realized that the wheel did not work in the installation screen but it works later after installation. Bad surprise: As in Beta1 the blue field on the screen was not large enough to show the buttons to commence after selection. I tried as you've noticed you're not going to be able to do individual package selection. I had to cruise past this part as you've done and allow it to install what its going to. Done that. OK Then it started post-installation configuration and asked for Disc #1. :) this sounds familiar. did the same thing to me so I skipped this part as well. it didn't appear to be a problem since the installation runs just fine. I did another attempt and it did not ask for disc1, it run right through! listing of devices and realized there was no network installed. I Then I hit the bar with the X configuration. It asked for my monitor as for config-ing the the display its been my experience to not do configure for anything as fancy as your Gforce card and wait till the system restarts after the install and then do your display config. ( its all part of the excitement and discovery of the beta version. ) No, this time it showed No network configured and No X configured but when I marked the bars and hit Continue I could configure X and network. Both run without tweaking now! I commenced without X and that was it. No option to create a bootdisk. I forgot: there was an option to install LILO but I passed it because it did not give me the option to have it on a bootdisk. Now I even got the option to create a bootdisk! What does not work is the integration of 9.1 in my main lilo.conf of 9.0. I am working on that. Until then I use the bootdisk. BTW: Someone early after start of the Beta cycle wrote about the wonderful new look with his fonts. I can't see that. I have the same look as in 9.0 as far as fonts are concerned. Without importing the ttf from my WIndows partition I have the same ugly look in console windows and X apps. Even worse in Mozilla. wobo Your results with the fonts is a weird one cause I've got plain fonts in 9.0 and the fonts in 9.1 are wonderful. And I don't have anywhere near the vid card you've got. Mine is just a piddly onboard video card using the intel810 chipset. -- Mark --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1Beta2 - no way to install it here
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 15:55 -0500, Mark Weaver wrote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Hi wobo.. as far as your wheeled mouse thats likely the easiest part. just go with the generic two button, or generic wheel mouse. I realized that the wheel did not work in the installation screen but it works later after installation. Bad surprise: As in Beta1 the blue field on the screen was not large enough to show the buttons to commence after selection. I tried as you've noticed you're not going to be able to do individual package selection. I had to cruise past this part as you've done and allow it to install what its going to. Done that. OK Then it started post-installation configuration and asked for Disc #1. :) this sounds familiar. did the same thing to me so I skipped this part as well. it didn't appear to be a problem since the installation runs just fine. I did another attempt and it did not ask for disc1, it run right through! listing of devices and realized there was no network installed. I Then I hit the bar with the X configuration. It asked for my monitor as for config-ing the the display its been my experience to not do configure for anything as fancy as your Gforce card and wait till the system restarts after the install and then do your display config. ( its all part of the excitement and discovery of the beta version. ) No, this time it showed No network configured and No X configured but when I marked the bars and hit Continue I could configure X and network. Both run without tweaking now! I commenced without X and that was it. No option to create a bootdisk. I forgot: there was an option to install LILO but I passed it because it did not give me the option to have it on a bootdisk. Now I even got the option to create a bootdisk! What does not work is the integration of 9.1 in my main lilo.conf of 9.0. I am working on that. Until then I use the bootdisk. BTW: Someone early after start of the Beta cycle wrote about the wonderful new look with his fonts. I can't see that. I have the same look as in 9.0 as far as fonts are concerned. Without importing the ttf from my WIndows partition I have the same ugly look in console windows and X apps. Even worse in Mozilla. wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1Beta2 - no way to install it here
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 15:55 -0500, Mark Weaver wrote: (1280x1024 generic flatscreen) and claimed I had a GeForce2 card. I changed that to Generic GeForce4 and marked XFree 4.x.x. The installer showed an error and claimed that some files in /mnt/usr/... were missing. Only part of this message were on the blue square in the middle of the screen. as for config-ing the the display its been my experience to not do configure for anything as fancy as your Gforce card and wait till the system restarts after the install and then do your display config. ( its all part of the excitement and discovery of the beta version. ) the important part here being to obtain a working X configuration so's you can see what you're doing when the thing restarts. No X configuration. I guess you mean a working configuration so's you can see what and start X-configuration lateron. The way I got around this was to allow it to install LILO to it's normal place, when the system comes back up it will load your new beta version of Mandrake. Log in and then make a boot disk the old fashioned way: mkbootdisk This way I now had a boot disk for the beta system. That taken care of I simply put CD#1 of Mandrake 9.0 into the CDROM and recovered the previous installation of LILO so I was able to get back into my production version of Mandrake. I thought about that but was to much of a coward to risk my working installation. I would have missed all that monster thread in the expert list! :^) Thanks for the reply. wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1Beta2 - no way to install it here
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 12:31 -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: Wobo, A dirty method for getting multi-boot to work. (I've got QA boxes running up to 9 different versions of Linux so this had to be done quite often some of them (SuSe!) don't play nice.) I go through the install and let lilo do it's thing normally. Yes this does result in only being able to boot into the new version but there comes a fix on this. One thing I don't do is create a seperate /boot partition. (So I don't waste partitions with 9 OS's on a box it can get tight.) Then boot into the rescue disk for my main version. Mount the OS (it always gets the right version of MDK btw) and cd into /mnt/boot. Mount the / partion of the second OS in /mnt/mnt/disk (or some other point) mkdir mdk9.1 and cp -a all of the /boot directory from the 9.1 install into this directory. cd ../etc and edit lilo.conf to reflect the boot and root param's for the new OS. chroot /mnt lilo to set my mbr. reboot the box and I can now boot to either version. The one thing to remember is that on the new one everything will be /boot/mdk9.1/xxxfile instead of /boot/xxxfile in the new OS. James Thanks James, I know this way but I don't like it very much. The main downside of it is that when the system which contains the main lilo.conf crashes you will not be able to boot any other of the systems. Normally I let a new system install it's lilo in the root partition (or most times only partition) of the new system. Then I boot into my main system and add other=/dev/hda11 # boot partition of the new system label=91beta table=/dev/hda So I always have the option to boot any system from LILO regardless which system is crashed or not. This doesn't seem to work with 91Beta2, as I read it may have something to do with different ext3. wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1Beta2 - no way to install it here
Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Hi, after having started one of the longest running OT thread of this list (by numbers of postings) I'd like to turn to a not so important but more OnTopic issue - my unability to install 9.1Beta2. Downloaded both ISOs, checked the md5sums, burned the CDs, again checked the md5sums, done. Booted, pressed F1 and at the prompt chose 'expert'. Installer went without fault (except no way to get my mouse wheel going) to the package selection. To get to the Individual Package Selection I had to unmark and mark again the radio button for this feature. Hi wobo.. as far as your wheeled mouse thats likely the easiest part. just go with the generic two button, or generic wheel mouse. Bad surprise: As in Beta1 the blue field on the screen was not large enough to show the buttons to commence after selection. I tried several times to get to the button by pressing TAB. All I got was a freeze where the reset button was the only way out. BTW: the popup to show dependencies during selection was not showing but the text was (unreadable) squashed somewhere at the top of the blue field. as you've noticed you're not going to be able to do individual package selection. I had to cruise past this part as you've done and allow it to install what its going to. Next attempt I skipped the individual package selection to get at least something installed. I chose Office Workstation, Internet Client, Development, Graphical Workstation (unmarking Gnome because I wanted only KDE). Installation started and - in between changed to disc #2 - went to the end without error. Then it started post-installation configuration and asked for Disc #1. I inserted it, waited a moment to let the disc be read in then hit OK. The installer searched the disc, ejected it and asked for Disc #1. I did that several times, even changing to Disc 2 in case it really meant #2 instead of #1. No go. I had to hit Cancel. Then I got the :) this sounds familiar. did the same thing to me so I skipped this part as well. it didn't appear to be a problem since the installation runs just fine. listing of devices and realized there was no network installed. I clicked on that and did the network configuration. That was ok. Then I hit the bar with the X configuration. It asked for my monitor (1280x1024 generic flatscreen) and claimed I had a GeForce2 card. I changed that to Generic GeForce4 and marked XFree 4.x.x. The installer showed an error and claimed that some files in /mnt/usr/... were missing. Only part of this message were on the blue square in the middle of the screen. as for config-ing the the display its been my experience to not do configure for anything as fancy as your Gforce card and wait till the system restarts after the install and then do your display config. ( its all part of the excitement and discovery of the beta version. ) the important part here being to obtain a working X configuration so's you can see what you're doing when the thing restarts. I commenced without X and that was it. No option to create a bootdisk. I forgot: there was an option to install LILO but I passed it because it did not give me the option to have it on a bootdisk. The way I got around this was to allow it to install LILO to it's normal place, when the system comes back up it will load your new beta version of Mandrake. Log in and then make a boot disk the old fashioned way: mkbootdisk This way I now had a boot disk for the beta system. That taken care of I simply put CD#1 of Mandrake 9.0 into the CDROM and recovered the previous installation of LILO so I was able to get back into my production version of Mandrake. -- Mark --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
