Re: [expert] Couple questions
On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Jean-Louis Debert wrote: Yeah, that's pretty much what I figured too... Since the card isn't PNP, I told sndconfig manually what the jumper settings were, and when it played the demo sound files, they sounded just fine... but when I use x11amp or mpg123, the sound comes out absolutely awful... more static than anything else so something is definately not right. I'll fiddle a bit when I reinstall and put 6.1 on here tomorrow, but I have a feeling I might be going with OSS since I know it worked good under SuSE. Sorry to ask now, but ... did you try to compile your home-made kernel and specify the right options in the kernel definitions ??? As for myself, I _always_ did it that way (dating back when there was not any "sndconfig" of any kind) and it always worked out right for me. Also, in kernel parms for 2.2 I specify OSS so I guess that you cannot be wrong that way (OSS was originally derived from the kernel drivers made by Hannu Savolainen, back with Linux ca 0.99 or so). No... I haven't recompiled a kernel in a long time... I'm not partial to kernel compiling... more often than not I've broken things that should never have been broken.. =) OSS worked stock under Mandrake and SuSE, so that seemed the easiest solution, but sndconfig also worked under Mandrake with a PNP SB16 ISA card, which is why I tried it with this non-PNP true SB-Pro ISA card and it doesn't seem to like it very much. Vincent Danen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . ICQ: 16978834 BBBS/LiI . Internet Rex for Linux Beta Stronghold Enterprises/X BBS . http://shx.tzo.net Telnet://shx.tzo.net . Weblogin-http://shx.tzo.net/shx
Re: [expert] Couple questions
Vincent Danen wrote: Yeah, that's pretty much what I figured too... Since the card isn't PNP, I told sndconfig manually what the jumper settings were, and when it played the demo sound files, they sounded just fine... but when I use x11amp or mpg123, the sound comes out absolutely awful... more static than anything else so something is definately not right. I'll fiddle a bit when I reinstall and put 6.1 on here tomorrow, but I have a feeling I might be going with OSS since I know it worked good under SuSE. Sorry to ask now, but ... did you try to compile your home-made kernel and specify the right options in the kernel definitions ??? As for myself, I _always_ did it that way (dating back when there was not any "sndconfig" of any kind) and it always worked out right for me. Also, in kernel parms for 2.2 I specify OSS so I guess that you cannot be wrong that way (OSS was originally derived from the kernel drivers made by Hannu Savolainen, back with Linux ca 0.99 or so). Good luck ! -- Jean-Louis Debert[EMAIL PROTECTED] 74 Annemasse France old Linux fan
Re: [expert] Couple questions
Get Mandrake's lothar app. at: www.linux-mandrake.com/lothar It will help you with configuring it. Drake Jackson At 09:16 PM 9/16/1999 -0700, you wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Vincent Danen wrote: Instead of writing a few messages, I figured I'd ask all my questions in this one, so please bear with me. I have a genuine SoundBlaster PRO ISA soundcard and for the life of me I can't get the bloody thing to work under Mandrake (or RedHat) with soundconfig... even lothar didn't set it up right. The only time I got it working was using OSS under SuSE... should I install OSS under Mandrake and use it instead of sndconfig? How is this going to affect the sound daemon, enlightenment's sound, etc if I do? If you want to install it install it it won't break it, but isapnp should really be able to handle it. None that i know of. Time configs. People are using atomic clocks and other time servers to update their own clocks. How do I do this? Do I need a time server in my own timezone? I tried doing this with some tips in Linux Journal (Sept 99 issue) and the NTP servers, but I could never find one in my own timezone (MST7MDT). Is there a way to offset the reported time? Ie. if I pick an NTP server that is GMT0 is there a way I can have a perl script (I'm assuming there is a program to do this also, but I don't know what it is... enlightenment there would help) report it back as my local timezone or give an offset (ie. -7)? xnntp just needs the offset told to it if i remeber correctly, rdate does the timezone conversion automagicly, but even if it didn't time.nist.gov is in your timezone Dang... there was another question, but now I can't remember it... =( The answer is blue. Only if upstairs is round. Bob J.
Re: [expert] Couple questions
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Drake wrote: Get Mandrake's lothar app. at: www.linux-mandrake.com/lothar It will help you with configuring it. Actually, to be quite honest, it made more of a mess of it than using sndconfig did... =( I have a genuine SoundBlaster PRO ISA soundcard and for the life of me I can't get the bloody thing to work under Mandrake (or RedHat) with soundconfig... even lothar didn't set it up right. The only time I got it working was using OSS under SuSE... should I install OSS under Mandrake and use it instead of sndconfig? How is this going to affect the sound daemon, enlightenment's sound, etc if I do? Vincent Danen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . ICQ: 16978834 BBBS/LiI . Internet Rex for Linux Beta Stronghold Enterprises/X BBS . http://shx.tzo.net Telnet://shx.tzo.net . Weblogin-http://shx.tzo.net/shx
Re: [expert] Couple questions
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Vincentto set your system clock from pretty much anywhere just type: rdate -sp time.nist.gov Just one more thing, do it when you're connected to your ISP (-: Why? I'm connected 24/7 via cable.. I suppose I could chuck it in rc.local, but I was thinking of a cronjob... any reason why I shouldn't do it once a day via cron? VincentI notice that running Linux all day long compared to running Win98 that with Linux there is a whole lot more time loss than with Win98. I only needed to update the clock about once a month with Win98, but with Linux I notice the time slip in the space of several hours. So if I had a 24/7 connection I'd auto-update the clock at least 4 times a day. Sounds like cronjob material to me!! (-: Hmmm... thanx for the tip, Alan. I haven't really paid that much time to the time in linux since I started running it since I thought it based it all on the hardware clock, not software (which I'm now assuming it does). I'll have to observe the other machine and see what kind of time loss ther is with Mandrake 6.0. Vincent Danen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . ICQ: 16978834 BBBS/LiI . Internet Rex for Linux Beta Stronghold Enterprises/X BBS . http://shx.tzo.net Telnet://shx.tzo.net . Weblogin-http://shx.tzo.net/shx
Re: [expert] Couple questions
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Jean-Louis Debert wrote: I have a genuine SoundBlaster PRO ISA soundcard and for the life of me I can't get the bloody thing to work under Mandrake (or RedHat) with soundconfig... even lothar didn't set it up right. The only time I got it working was using OSS under SuSE... should I install OSS under Mandrake and use it instead of sndconfig? How is this going to affect the sound daemon, enlightenment's sound, etc if I do? If you want to install it install it it won't break it, but isapnp should really be able to handle it. Sorry, but AFAIK, Soundblaster PRO ISA is _NOT_ a PNP board, it has jumpers for config (I'm sure, I have one, that's a really vintage one, the very first Sounblaster that did support stereo ... albeit limited to 22k). So his question really boils down to: how does one specify parameters to sndconfig and friends, to match the jumper config ??? Yeah, that's pretty much what I figured too... Since the card isn't PNP, I told sndconfig manually what the jumper settings were, and when it played the demo sound files, they sounded just fine... but when I use x11amp or mpg123, the sound comes out absolutely awful... more static than anything else so something is definately not right. I'll fiddle a bit when I reinstall and put 6.1 on here tomorrow, but I have a feeling I might be going with OSS since I know it worked good under SuSE. Vincent Danen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . ICQ: 16978834 BBBS/LiI . Internet Rex for Linux Beta Stronghold Enterprises/X BBS . http://shx.tzo.net Telnet://shx.tzo.net . Weblogin-http://shx.tzo.net/shx
Re: [expert] Couple questions
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Vincent Danen wrote: Instead of writing a few messages, I figured I'd ask all my questions in this one, so please bear with me. I have a genuine SoundBlaster PRO ISA soundcard and for the life of me I can't get the bloody thing to work under Mandrake (or RedHat) with soundconfig... even lothar didn't set it up right. The only time I got it working was using OSS under SuSE... should I install OSS under Mandrake and use it instead of sndconfig? How is this going to affect the sound daemon, enlightenment's sound, etc if I do? If you want to install it install it it won't break it, but isapnp should really be able to handle it. None that i know of. Time configs. People are using atomic clocks and other time servers to update their own clocks. How do I do this? Do I need a time server in my own timezone? I tried doing this with some tips in Linux Journal (Sept 99 issue) and the NTP servers, but I could never find one in my own timezone (MST7MDT). Is there a way to offset the reported time? Ie. if I pick an NTP server that is GMT0 is there a way I can have a perl script (I'm assuming there is a program to do this also, but I don't know what it is... enlightenment there would help) report it back as my local timezone or give an offset (ie. -7)? xnntp just needs the offset told to it if i remeber correctly, rdate does the timezone conversion automagicly, but even if it didn't time.nist.gov is in your timezone Dang... there was another question, but now I can't remember it... =( The answer is blue. Vincent Danen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . ICQ: 16978834 BBBS/LiI . Internet Rex for Linux Beta Stronghold Enterprises/X BBS . http://shx.tzo.net Telnet://shx.tzo.net . Weblogin-http://shx.tzo.net/shx -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [expert] Couple questions
Vincent Danen wrote: Instead of writing a few messages, I figured I'd ask all my questions in this one, so please bear with me. I have a genuine SoundBlaster PRO ISA soundcard and for the life of me I can't get the bloody thing to work under Mandrake (or RedHat) with soundconfig... even lothar didn't set it up right. The only time I got it working was using OSS under SuSE... should I install OSS under Mandrake and use it instead of sndconfig? How is this going to affect the sound daemon, enlightenment's sound, etc if I do? Time configs. People are using atomic clocks and other time servers to update their own clocks. How do I do this? Do I need a time server in my own timezone? I tried doing this with some tips in Linux Journal (Sept 99 issue) and the NTP servers, but I could never find one in my own timezone (MST7MDT). Is there a way to offset the reported time? Ie. if I pick an NTP server that is GMT0 is there a way I can have a perl script (I'm assuming there is a program to do this also, but I don't know what it is... enlightenment there would help) report it back as my local timezone or give an offset (ie. -7)? Dang... there was another question, but now I can't remember it... =( Vincent Danen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . ICQ: 16978834 BBBS/LiI . Internet Rex for Linux Beta Stronghold Enterprises/X BBS . http://shx.tzo.net Telnet://shx.tzo.net . Weblogin-http://shx.tzo.net/shx Vincentto set your system clock from pretty much anywhere just type: rdate -sp time.nist.gov Just one more thing, do it when you're connected to your ISP (-: Alan
Re: [expert] Couple questions
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Time configs. People are using atomic clocks and other time servers to update their own clocks. How do I do this? Do I need a time server in my own timezone? I tried doing this with some tips in Linux Journal (Sept 99 issue) and the NTP servers, but I could never find one in my own timezone (MST7MDT). Is there a way to offset the reported time? Ie. if I pick an NTP server that is GMT0 is there a way I can have a perl script (I'm assuming there is a program to do this also, but I don't know what it is... enlightenment there would help) report it back as my local timezone or give an offset (ie. -7)? Vincentto set your system clock from pretty much anywhere just type: rdate -sp time.nist.gov Just one more thing, do it when you're connected to your ISP (-: Why? I'm connected 24/7 via cable.. I suppose I could chuck it in rc.local, but I was thinking of a cronjob... any reason why I shouldn't do it once a day via cron? Vincent Danen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . ICQ: 16978834 BBBS/LiI . Internet Rex for Linux Beta Stronghold Enterprises/X BBS . http://shx.tzo.net Telnet://shx.tzo.net . Weblogin-http://shx.tzo.net/shx
Re: [expert] Couple questions
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Vincent Danen wrote: Instead of writing a few messages, I figured I'd ask all my questions in this one, so please bear with me. I have a genuine SoundBlaster PRO ISA soundcard and for the life of me I can't get the bloody thing to work under Mandrake (or RedHat) with soundconfig... even lothar didn't set it up right. The only time I got it working was using OSS under SuSE... should I install OSS under Mandrake and use it instead of sndconfig? How is this going to affect the sound daemon, enlightenment's sound, etc if I do? If you want to install it install it it won't break it, but isapnp should really be able to handle it. None that i know of. Time configs. People are using atomic clocks and other time servers to update their own clocks. How do I do this? Do I need a time server in my own timezone? I tried doing this with some tips in Linux Journal (Sept 99 issue) and the NTP servers, but I could never find one in my own timezone (MST7MDT). Is there a way to offset the reported time? Ie. if I pick an NTP server that is GMT0 is there a way I can have a perl script (I'm assuming there is a program to do this also, but I don't know what it is... enlightenment there would help) report it back as my local timezone or give an offset (ie. -7)? xnntp just needs the offset told to it if i remeber correctly, rdate does the timezone conversion automagicly, but even if it didn't time.nist.gov is in your timezone Dang... there was another question, but now I can't remember it... =( The answer is blue. Only if upstairs is round. Bob J.
Re: [expert] Couple questions
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: I have a genuine SoundBlaster PRO ISA soundcard and for the life of me I can't get the bloody thing to work under Mandrake (or RedHat) with soundconfig... even lothar didn't set it up right. The only time I got it working was using OSS under SuSE... should I install OSS under Mandrake and use it instead of sndconfig? How is this going to affect the sound daemon, enlightenment's sound, etc if I do? If you want to install it install it it won't break it, but isapnp should really be able to handle it. Does isapnp work on non-PNP cards? This one isn't PNP... BTW, how do you get the config file for isapnp again? I thought it was pnpdump for some reason, but I can't find the proper command. None that i know of. That's good to know. Time configs. People are using atomic clocks and other time servers to update their own clocks. How do I do this? Do I need a time server in my own timezone? I tried doing this with some tips in Linux Journal (Sept 99 issue) and the NTP servers, but I could never find one in my own timezone (MST7MDT). Is there a way to offset the reported time? Ie. if I pick an NTP server that is GMT0 is there a way I can have a perl script (I'm assuming there is a program to do this also, but I don't know what it is... enlightenment there would help) report it back as my local timezone or give an offset (ie. -7)? xnntp just needs the offset told to it if i remeber correctly, rdate does the timezone conversion automagicly, but even if it didn't time.nist.gov is in your timezone Cool... there's one in my TZ... couldn't find one on the list that LJ referred to. Thanx. =) Dang... there was another question, but now I can't remember it... =( The answer is blue. Maybe if I was running OS/2 still... =) Vincent Danen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . ICQ: 16978834 BBBS/LiI . Internet Rex for Linux Beta Stronghold Enterprises/X BBS . http://shx.tzo.net Telnet://shx.tzo.net . Weblogin-http://shx.tzo.net/shx
Re: [expert] Couple questions
Vincent Danen wrote: On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Time configs. People are using atomic clocks and other time servers to update their own clocks. How do I do this? Do I need a time server in my own timezone? I tried doing this with some tips in Linux Journal (Sept 99 issue) and the NTP servers, but I could never find one in my own timezone (MST7MDT). Is there a way to offset the reported time? Ie. if I pick an NTP server that is GMT0 is there a way I can have a perl script (I'm assuming there is a program to do this also, but I don't know what it is... enlightenment there would help) report it back as my local timezone or give an offset (ie. -7)? Vincentto set your system clock from pretty much anywhere just type: rdate -sp time.nist.gov Just one more thing, do it when you're connected to your ISP (-: Why? I'm connected 24/7 via cable.. I suppose I could chuck it in rc.local, but I was thinking of a cronjob... any reason why I shouldn't do it once a day via cron? Vincent Danen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . ICQ: 16978834 BBBS/LiI . Internet Rex for Linux Beta Stronghold Enterprises/X BBS . http://shx.tzo.net Telnet://shx.tzo.net . Weblogin-http://shx.tzo.net/shx VincentI notice that running Linux all day long compared to running Win98 that with Linux there is a whole lot more time loss than with Win98. I only needed to update the clock about once a month with Win98, but with Linux I notice the time slip in the space of several hours. So if I had a 24/7 connection I'd auto-update the clock at least 4 times a day. Sounds like cronjob material to me!! (-: Alan
Re: [expert] Couple questions
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Vincent Danen wrote: I have a genuine SoundBlaster PRO ISA soundcard and for the life of me I can't get the bloody thing to work under Mandrake (or RedHat) with soundconfig... even lothar didn't set it up right. The only time I got it working was using OSS under SuSE... should I install OSS under Mandrake and use it instead of sndconfig? How is this going to affect the sound daemon, enlightenment's sound, etc if I do? If you want to install it install it it won't break it, but isapnp should really be able to handle it. Sorry, but AFAIK, Soundblaster PRO ISA is _NOT_ a PNP board, it has jumpers for config (I'm sure, I have one, that's a really vintage one, the very first Sounblaster that did support stereo ... albeit limited to 22k). So his question really boils down to: how does one specify parameters to sndconfig and friends, to match the jumper config ??? -- Jean-Louis Debert[EMAIL PROTECTED] 74 Annemasse France old Linux fan
