Re: [expert] Re: Sound Is Impossible
On Sunday 14 July 2002 02:48, you wrote: An addendum to my sound card problems of 6 weeks ago. I have sound using OSS but not ALSA, it's not uncommon to get sound server error messages when I forget and try and use a KDE sound app. Clearly artsd is missing the boat somewhere. As a rare occasion today I logged into a KDE screen as root (I know, I know but I had my reasons) and blow me down, the chord played on boot and sign off. I also used some KDE apps and got sound interaction. Clearly a permission problem somewhere but would anyone care to suggest where? regards Daryl -- James Joyce -- an essentially private man who wished his total indifference to public notice to be universally recognized. -- Tom Stoppard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound Is Impossible
On Sunday 11 August 2002 12:34, Daryl Johnson wrote: On Sunday 14 July 2002 02:48, you wrote: An addendum to my sound card problems of 6 weeks ago. I have sound using OSS but not ALSA, it's not uncommon to get sound server error messages when I forget and try and use a KDE sound app. Clearly artsd is missing the boat somewhere. As a rare occasion today I logged into a KDE screen as root (I know, I know but I had my reasons) and blow me down, the chord played on boot and sign off. I also used some KDE apps and got sound interaction. Clearly a permission problem somewhere but would anyone care to suggest where? Are you running the /usr/bin/artswrapper suid-root? I'm sure there are many who would frown heavily on doing this, but I run it suid (mode 4755), and have had much better sound quality as a result. If you use msec, you will have to put an entry for the change in /etc/security/msec/perm.local: # /etc/security/msec/perm.local # Local file permission settings to override msec. # [file][uid.gid] [perms] # /usr/bin/artswrapperroot.root 4755 the artswrapper is what launches the artsd sound-server at kde startup, and allows artsd to get (near) real-time-scheduling priority. -Chuck -- +-% He's a real UNIX Man $-+-+ \ Sitting in his UNIX LAN \ Charles A. Shirley \ \ Making all his UNIX plans \ cashirley (at) comcast (dot) net \ +--# For nobody --+-+ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound Is Impossible
On Sunday 11 August 2002 17:46, you wrote: [...] Are you running the /usr/bin/artswrapper suid-root? I'm sure there are yup -rwsr-xr-x root root ... many who would frown heavily on doing this, but I run it suid (mode 4755), and have had much better sound quality as a result. If you use msec, Not an issue as I'm not using it at present Thanks for the response regards Daryl -- Appendix: A portion of a book, for which nobody yet has discovered any use. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound Is Impossible
Daryl Johnson wrote: OK things move on - with a degree of embarrassment :o/ Following on from some of Larry Swords comments I ran the card down to the European web site (makes sense, I bought the card in Scotland). I had the opportunity here to d/l a manual. Query, if there is a manual available why wasn't it in the box? Maybe it was but on the windows disk. Hmmm Anyway, d/l the manual and have a glance through. Well, that's certainly a better set-up diagram than the leaflet - let's see if everything is as per... well, the cd line is to the right place tick one. The line in is Oh sht, check back with the leaflet... degree of confusion, check with the manual, none at all. Replace line out one socket up. Run Control Centre and sound card configuration and a LOUID american voice tells me that my card is configured! A quick run of a cd and it plays. Oh Joy. Further check shows that /etc/modules.conf is as per: alias usb-interface usb-uhci # ALSA native device support options snd snd_major = 116 snd_cards_limit = 1 #OSS/Free setup probeall scsi_hostadapter advansys alias eth0 3c59x alias sound-slot-0 es1371 I would recommend, as root, make a backup of your /etc/modules.conf file. Then edit /etc/modules.conf and remove these lines: (as you are no longer using the ALSA drivers. # ALSA native device support options snd snd_major = 116 snd_cards_limit = 1 The ONLY entry for your sound card needsis: alias sound-slot-0 es1371 Run depmod -a. Then reboot. Certainly seems a bit less elaborate than before. OK another test, shutdown and reboot. Dmesg now shows: es1371: version v0.30 time 01:49:49 Mar 15 2002 es1371: found chip, vendor id 0x1274 device id 0x5880 revision 0x02 es1371: found es1371 rev 2 at io 0xcc00 irq 11 es1371: features: joystick 0x0 ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 0x8384:0x7608 (SigmaTel STAC9708) plus an illegal CDROM request sr0: CDROM (ioctl) reports ILLEGAL REQUEST. sr0: CDROM (ioctl) reports ILLEGAL REQUEST. Maybe you don't have a cdron in the drive? Furthermore there is no swelling chord when the KDE screen opens and there is an error message: Sound server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting It seems that artsd is failing to connect somewhere. A further test shows that noatun refuses to run HOWEVER calling up KDE Sound Server, restarting the server appears to work and noatun can now run (though I have to kill artsd to get Real video running again (sheesh) Sooo, thanks for all the help and comments so far and u, where might I go from here? regards Daryl Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound Is Impossible
Larry Sword wrote: Daryl Johnson wrote: OK things move on - with a degree of embarrassment :o/ Following on from some of Larry Swords comments I ran the card down to the European web site (makes sense, I bought the card in Scotland). I had the opportunity here to d/l a manual. Query, if there is a manual available why wasn't it in the box? Maybe it was but on the windows disk. Hmmm Anyway, d/l the manual and have a glance through. Well, that's certainly a better set-up diagram than the leaflet - let's see if everything is as per... well, the cd line is to the right place tick one. The line in is Oh sht, check back with the leaflet... degree of confusion, check with the manual, none at all. Replace line out one socket up. Run Control Centre and sound card configuration and a LOUID american voice tells me that my card is configured! A quick run of a cd and it plays. Oh Joy. Further check shows that /etc/modules.conf is as per: alias usb-interface usb-uhci # ALSA native device support options snd snd_major = 116 snd_cards_limit = 1 #OSS/Free setup probeall scsi_hostadapter advansys alias eth0 3c59x alias sound-slot-0 es1371 I would recommend, as root, make a backup of your /etc/modules.conf file. Then edit /etc/modules.conf and remove these lines: (as you are no longer using the ALSA drivers. # ALSA native device support options snd snd_major = 116 snd_cards_limit = 1 The ONLY entry for your sound card needsis: alias sound-slot-0 es1371 Run depmod -a. Then reboot. Certainly seems a bit less elaborate than before. OK another test, shutdown and reboot. Dmesg now shows: es1371: version v0.30 time 01:49:49 Mar 15 2002 es1371: found chip, vendor id 0x1274 device id 0x5880 revision 0x02 es1371: found es1371 rev 2 at io 0xcc00 irq 11 es1371: features: joystick 0x0 ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 0x8384:0x7608 (SigmaTel STAC9708) plus an illegal CDROM request sr0: CDROM (ioctl) reports ILLEGAL REQUEST. sr0: CDROM (ioctl) reports ILLEGAL REQUEST. Maybe you don't have a cdron in the drive? Furthermore there is no swelling chord when the KDE screen opens and there is an error message: Sound server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting It seems that artsd is failing to connect somewhere. A further test shows that noatun refuses to run HOWEVER calling up KDE Sound Server, restarting the server appears to work and noatun can now run (though I have to kill artsd to get Real video running again (sheesh) Sooo, thanks for all the help and comments so far and u, where might I go from here? regards Daryl Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Nope--doesn't matter if he has a CDROM in the drive or not. The message is from sr, which means that he has a CDRW most likely and the /dev/cdrom isn't pointing there. as root ln -fs /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom should improve playing audio CDs Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound Is Impossible
civileme wrote: Larry Sword wrote: plus an illegal CDROM request sr0: CDROM (ioctl) reports ILLEGAL REQUEST. sr0: CDROM (ioctl) reports ILLEGAL REQUEST. Maybe you don't have a cdron in the drive? Nope--doesn't matter if he has a CDROM in the drive or not. The message is from sr, which means that he has a CDRW most likely and the /dev/cdrom isn't pointing there. as root ln -fs /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom should improve playing audio CDs Civileme Right you are.. I must have been thinking of when one clicks on the CDROM icon and having no disk in the drive you get a Failure to Open message or something to that effect. Larry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
