Re: [expert] Suggestion to eliminate off topic postings
On Friday 14 March 2003 02:43 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: > Vincent Danen wrote on Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 12:03:35AM -0700 : > > Zero tolerance. I'd like to see that done on all Mandrake lists. The > > amount of time some of us spend wading through this junk boggles me. > > In effect right now. I read what's been posted to the list through the > night, after that, they're gone. > > Blue skies... Todd Thank you. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Suggestion to eliminate off topic postings
On Fri Mar 14, 2003 at 11:43:43AM -0800, Todd Lyons wrote:
> > Zero tolerance. I'd like to see that done on all Mandrake lists. The
> > amount of time some of us spend wading through this junk boggles me.
>
> In effect right now. I read what's been posted to the list through the
> night, after that, they're gone.
Good stuff.
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Re: [expert] Suggestion to eliminate off topic postings
On Friday 14 March 2003 02:43 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: > Vincent Danen wrote on Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 12:03:35AM -0700 : > > Zero tolerance. I'd like to see that done on all Mandrake lists. > > The amount of time some of us spend wading through this junk > > boggles me. > > In effect right now. I read what's been posted to the list through > the night, after that, they're gone. > > Blue skies... Todd You think this is intolerable, I'm on a Linux Users Group mailing list for a group in a major US city. The current flame war involves which user's mail server is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and why F'ed up and very non-productive, but at least it has SOMETHING to do with computers/Linux, I guess. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Suggestion to eliminate off topic postings
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Re: [expert] Suggestion to eliminate off topic postings
Vincent Danen wrote on Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 12:03:35AM -0700 : > > Zero tolerance. I'd like to see that done on all Mandrake lists. The > amount of time some of us spend wading through this junk boggles me. In effect right now. I read what's been posted to the list through the night, after that, they're gone. Blue skies... Todd -- Never take no as an answer from someone who's not authorized to say yes. --Ben Reser on Cooker ML Mandrake Cooker Devel Version, Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Suggestion to eliminate off topic postings
On Fri Mar 14, 2003 at 12:38:37PM +1300, Damon Lynch wrote:
> The list maintainer has in the past indicated he has very little if any
> tolerance for off topic postings. Furthermore, an off topic list has
> already been created:
>
> http://edificationweb.com/mailman/listinfo/mdk-offtopic_edificationweb.com
>
> But obviously people still feel the need to use this list from time to
> time. so how about a rule that says if you've got an off topic
> discussion you're just itching to have, put it in no more than one line
> of your signature of a genuinely on topic e-mail, notifying where the
> off topic discussion can be held.
>
> Todd, is that ok with you?
There's been so much bloody noise on this list I'd recommend a
zero-tolerance policy. One OT post and you're unsubscribed.
I'll ask Charles tomorrow for co-moderatorship of the list. I have no
problem unsubscribing people wholesale who contribute crap threads like this
ridiculous boycott thread (I honestly could not believe my eyes on that
one!)
Frankly, there are 2-3 OT lists out there. Use them. If people are so
ignorant and selfish that they can't respect their fellow listmates by
keeping their OT crap off the list to begin with, then I don't think they
should be on the list. Or at least they should have to go through the
hassle of resubscribing.
Obviously asking people doesn't help. Todd's asked on a few occassions. We
still get the idiots with their OT posts, and people who just "can't hold it
in any longer" (really, yes you can, I know you can).
Zero tolerance. I'd like to see that done on all Mandrake lists. The
amount of time some of us spend wading through this junk boggles me.
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Re: [expert] Suggestion to eliminate off topic postings
Damon, Miark, rules, regulations, what ever name you may want to apply it, just like horses will never fly, and every one knows where horse flies lay, it can never be enforced when some one responds to what some one believes should not happen. a post is just that, a post. you do not like, delete it. respond to it, you start a thread, for others to follow. all too many, and what by where they lead? a needle. remember what happens when you play with needles. you get pricked, or you become one. far greater are number of post that are not in 'text/plain', as has been mentioned many time, that is requested. and i have made comments, which i no longer do, but continue with a sig that request 'text/plain'. after setting a filter to trap non text/plain, i have collected 594 post dating from 2/21/01 10:14 pm to 3/14/03 1:10 pm, for a total of 3,817,156 bytes. majority of these are 'subject: [newbie] ***'. what is most interesting about this, is number of 'subject: Re [newbie] ***'. a very fine example of, 'those who do not know and asking, then, being help by some who do know, but really do not know, for their example of what is accepted, is contradiction'. just an observation, and and example, i respond no more to Subject: Re: "[expert]" Suggestion to eliminate off topic postings what kind of example of yourself, do you care to make??? peace out. tc,hago. g . =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email: text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments. =+= beauty of real is revealed only to those who persevere. old orthodox saying. =+= perseverance can be a virtue. new orthodox saying =+= perseverance can be a reward. renewed knowledge of old orthodox custom =+= may God bless, and have mercy | take care, have a good one slaying dragons | linux+firewalls+wrappers+spoof=fences to gates heads =+= http://home.mem.net/~leem/index.html =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy "made in america". =+= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Suggestion to eliminate off topic postings
On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 13:01, Miark wrote: > Many people are too selfish to stick to just rules. What else do you have > in mind? The signature rule is the kind way, Todd kicking people off is the rough way. That combination should be sufficient, yes? Hopefully there will be a lot more of the former so the latter is rarely if ever needed. Damon -- Damon Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Suggestion to eliminate off topic postings
Damon, Many people are too selfish to stick to just rules. What else do you have in mind? Miark On 14 Mar 2003 12:38:37 +1300 Damon Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The list maintainer has in the past indicated he has very little if any > tolerance for off topic postings. Furthermore, an off topic list has > already been created: > > http://edificationweb.com/mailman/listinfo/mdk-offtopic_edificationweb.com > > But obviously people still feel the need to use this list from time to > time. so how about a rule that says if you've got an off topic > discussion you're just itching to have, put it in no more than one line > of your signature of a genuinely on topic e-mail, notifying where the > off topic discussion can be held. > > Todd, is that ok with you? > > Damon > -- > Damon Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
