Re: [expert] XFdrake
Praedor wrote: > On Saturday 25 August 2001 08:19 am, Felix Miata wrote: > > I looked into XFdrake, a shell script. It appears that it makes a call > > to Xconfgurator, but if I try to run Xconfigurator, I get the exact same > > result as trying to execute XFdrake. > [...] > > "Warning: server SVGA is not available (should be in > > /mnt/usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86) at /usr/bin/perl-install/Xconfigurator.pm at > > line 385" > [...] > I did a looksee at my system's Xconfigurator.pm file. I have Mandrake 8.x+ > (almost Cooker). It resides in /usr/lib/libDrakX. I scanned through it and > see nowhere within it any mention of a /mnt/usr anything. It has several > lines directed to /usr/X11R6 and various subdirectories. Be that as it may, > it appears to me that your Xconfigurator is looking in the wrong/non-existent > place for XFree86. I think that that was where it may have been supposed to look while original installation was taking place. > Do you have /mnt/usr? No > How/why did this come about? I tried to install 8.0 on a system which has a perfectly operational 7.1. > You can try another > method. Go to /usr/X11R6/bin and run "XFree86 -configure". I did that. I says do 'XFree86 -xf86config /root/XF86Config.new'. That appeared to do what was intended. Then I copied /root/XF86Config.new to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (old /etc/XF86Config-4 was zero bytes). When I did startx, I got: "xauth: creating new authority file /root/.Xauthority execve failed for /etc/X11/X (errno 2) giving up xinit: No such file in directory (errno 2) unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): server error" I looked for /etc/X11/X and found no such file. > First off, > XFree86 should be in this location, not /mnt/usr/...etc. Second, running the > above command will have XFree86 autoconfigure your system for you. It may > not be the best, most desired setup but it should be a workable setup. You > can then edit the config file from there or try running one of the x > configuration apps after getting X running. At least you will end up with a > proper form and function XF86config file in the proper location. Certainly what I would expect not having first had the original install fail. So far, no joy. Until I know what the real problem is, I have no idea what, if anything, needs editing. I know the X server has to be set in motion first, and then a window manager, before KDE can start, but I've yet to find in what config and executable files this stuff is found. /etc/rc5.d has nothing in it but links. -- "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." President John Adams Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] XFdrake
On Saturday 25 August 2001 12:43, Praedor wrote: > I did a looksee at my system's Xconfigurator.pm file. I have Mandrake 8.x+ > (almost Cooker). It resides in /usr/lib/libDrakX. I scanned through it > and see nowhere within it any mention of a /mnt/usr anything. It has > several lines directed to /usr/X11R6 and various subdirectories. Be that > as it may, it appears to me that your Xconfigurator is looking in the > wrong/non-existent place for XFree86. > > Do you have /mnt/usr? How/why did this come about? You can try another > method. Go to /usr/X11R6/bin and run "XFree86 -configure". First off, > XFree86 should be in this location, not /mnt/usr/...etc. Second, running > the above command will have XFree86 autoconfigure your system for you. It > may not be the best, most desired setup but it should be a workable setup. > You can then edit the config file from there or try running one of the x > configuration apps after getting X running. At least you will end up with > a proper form and function XF86config file in the proper location. > > On Saturday 25 August 2001 08:19 am, Felix Miata wrote: > > I looked into XFdrake, a shell script. It appears that it makes a call > > to Xconfgurator, but if I try to run Xconfigurator, I get the exact same > > result as trying to execute XFdrake. > > [...] > > > "Warning: server SVGA is not available (should be in > > /mnt/usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86) at /usr/bin/perl-install/Xconfigurator.pm at > > line 385" > > [...] The XFdrake used in the installer would point at /mnt/usr, but unless you build from SRPMS you usually do not get that one in your install. It has other differences, being much less strict to make the size smaller, etc. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] XFdrake
Praedor wrote: > On Saturday 25 August 2001 08:19 am, Felix Miata wrote: > > > On Friday 24 August 2001 11:41 pm, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > No man of info entries for this in Mandrake 8. What is it for? When I > > > > execute it, nothing happens for a few seconds, then a SCSI parity error > > > > flashes on screen (no CD in drive, install on IDE HD), then prompt > > > > returns. > > I looked into XFdrake, a shell script. It appears that it makes a call > > to Xconfgurator, but if I try to run Xconfigurator, I get the exact same > > result as trying to execute XFdrake. > I am rather confused by the fact that you are getting an error message > because the configurator is looking for files in /mnt/usr... Huh? /mnt/usr? > Unless you have a really odd setup, there shouldn't even be a /mnt/usr, just I got the message (found /mnt/usr*) *during* installation of Mandrake from CD. There is/was no /mnt/usr after reboot. > /, /usr, etc. You could try editing the > usr/bin/perl-install/Xconfigurator.pm file, line 385 or thereabouts. If it > really says /mnt/usr/...change it to /usr/... - delete the leading /mnt part > and try again. I never looked at a perl script before, and still don't know much of what it was I saw. Lots of variable names, so not easy to be sure about what is really there by a non-perl user. > You likely don't need XFree86-Xvfb. What I listed is what you need to do all > normal XFree serving/graphics on your system. The Xvfb rpm is a really > specialized sub-rpm for monitor-less systems I believe. It wont hurt your > system to have it there but it does take up space for no good purpose. I tried to find some command line way to discover the application within any particular RPM and so far have been unsuccesful. Until I can do that, my guess is it means X Virtual Frame Buffer. Are you using framebuffer and have Xvfb not installed? -- "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." President John Adams Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] XFdrake
I did a looksee at my system's Xconfigurator.pm file. I have Mandrake 8.x+ (almost Cooker). It resides in /usr/lib/libDrakX. I scanned through it and see nowhere within it any mention of a /mnt/usr anything. It has several lines directed to /usr/X11R6 and various subdirectories. Be that as it may, it appears to me that your Xconfigurator is looking in the wrong/non-existent place for XFree86. Do you have /mnt/usr? How/why did this come about? You can try another method. Go to /usr/X11R6/bin and run "XFree86 -configure". First off, XFree86 should be in this location, not /mnt/usr/...etc. Second, running the above command will have XFree86 autoconfigure your system for you. It may not be the best, most desired setup but it should be a workable setup. You can then edit the config file from there or try running one of the x configuration apps after getting X running. At least you will end up with a proper form and function XF86config file in the proper location. On Saturday 25 August 2001 08:19 am, Felix Miata wrote: > I looked into XFdrake, a shell script. It appears that it makes a call > to Xconfgurator, but if I try to run Xconfigurator, I get the exact same > result as trying to execute XFdrake. [...] > "Warning: server SVGA is not available (should be in > /mnt/usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86) at /usr/bin/perl-install/Xconfigurator.pm at > line 385" [...] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] XFdrake
I am rather confused by the fact that you are getting an error message because the configurator is looking for files in /mnt/usr... Huh? /mnt/usr? Unless you have a really odd setup, there shouldn't even be a /mnt/usr, just /, /usr, etc. You could try editing the usr/bin/perl-install/Xconfigurator.pm file, line 385 or thereabouts. If it really says /mnt/usr/...change it to /usr/... - delete the leading /mnt part and try again. You likely don't need XFree86-Xvfb. What I listed is what you need to do all normal XFree serving/graphics on your system. The Xvfb rpm is a really specialized sub-rpm for monitor-less systems I believe. It wont hurt your system to have it there but it does take up space for no good purpose. On Saturday 25 August 2001 08:19 am, Felix Miata wrote: > I looked into XFdrake, a shell script. It appears that it makes a call > to Xconfgurator, but if I try to run Xconfigurator, I get the exact same > result as trying to execute XFdrake. > > Praedor Tempus wrote: > > On Friday 24 August 2001 11:41 pm, Felix Miata wrote: > > > No man of info entries for this in Mandrake 8. What is it for? When I > > > execute it, nothing happens for a few seconds, then a SCSI parity error > > > flashes on screen (no CD in drive, install on IDE HD), then prompt > > > returns. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] XFdrake
I looked into XFdrake, a shell script. It appears that it makes a call to Xconfgurator, but if I try to run Xconfigurator, I get the exact same result as trying to execute XFdrake. Praedor Tempus wrote: > On Friday 24 August 2001 11:41 pm, Felix Miata wrote: > > No man of info entries for this in Mandrake 8. What is it for? When I > > execute it, nothing happens for a few seconds, then a SCSI parity error > > flashes on screen (no CD in drive, install on IDE HD), then prompt > > returns. > It still appears you are missing something. > You should have: > XFree86-4.0.3 > XFree86-server-4.0.3 > XFree86-100dpi-fonts > XFree86-75dpi-fonts > XFree86-libs-4.0.3 # rpm -qa | grep XFree86 | sort > /tmp/rpmXFqa # cat /tmp/rpmXFqa XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.0.3-7mdk XFree86-4.0.3-7mdk XFree86-75dpi-fonts-4.0.3-7mdk XFree86-doc-4.0.3-7mdk XFree86-libs-4.0.3-7mdk XFree86-server-4.0.3-7mdk XFree86-xfs-4.0.3-7mdk XFree86-Xnest-4.0.3-7mdk XFree86-Xvfb-4.0.3-7mdk The original install left out the server, Xvfb & doc packages, which I RPM'd later because I can't get X to run. > --- > MAYBE want XFree86-xfs-4.0.3 (I see some posts indicating that this is > optional but not having it will certainly remove some functionality) > --- > I believe that with those, you should do OK. Do you have each of the above > installed? What is your video card? ET6100. Claimed supported in all Linux video docs I can find. > XFdrake is supposed to be a nice X setup utility. Are you certain you > selected 4.0.3 during install rather than 3.3.6? Are you short on drive When the installer first failed to configure my choice of 4.0.3, I tried to have it configure 3.3.6, but that failed in the same manner with: "Warning: server SVGA is not available (should be in /mnt/usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86) at /usr/bin/perl-install/Xconfigurator.pm at line 385" > space in /usr? All the XFree stuff will end up in /usr/X11R6 directories and > subdirectories. # df /usr Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda8 2376900540471 1713534 24% / -- "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." President John Adams Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] XFdrake
It still appears you are missing something. You should have: XFree86-4.0.3 XFree86-server-4.0.3 XFree86-100dpi-fonts XFree86-75dpi-fonts XFree86-libs-4.0.3 --- MAYBE want XFree86-xfs-4.0.3 (I see some posts indicating that this is optional but not having it will certainly remove some functionality) --- I believe that with those, you should do OK. Do you have each of the above installed? What is your video card? XFdrake is supposed to be a nice X setup utility. Are you certain you selected 4.0.3 during install rather than 3.3.6? Are you short on drive space in /usr? All the XFree stuff will end up in /usr/X11R6 directories and subdirectories. On Friday 24 August 2001 11:41 pm, Felix Miata wrote: > No man of info entries for this in Mandrake 8. What is it for? When I > execute it, nothing happens for a few seconds, then a SCSI parity error > flashes on screen (no CD in drive, install on IDE HD), then prompt > returns. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] XFdrake freezes -- PLEASE help!
Thanks for the reply David, I may well try that. At the moment I've reinstalled all that I can see of X, also drakxtools and drakxtools-newt, and all of KDE. I used rpm -ivh --force. I still can't get XFdrake to work, which is weird because it did before. The freeze appears to take place at the card detection stage. Adding the -expert and -noauto options makes no difference. At the moment I am running fvwm from my own .xinitrc file. The whole thing was put together using xf86config and a bit of hand-editing of XF86Config. I can't get things to telinit 5 properly and KDE doesn't work. I am confused as to how I have managed to fsck things up this way... The nice thing about Linux is that I'm fairly sure that it's me that's messed up somewhere, I've just got to find out how! Tom On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 02:00:40PM -0600, David Joham wrote: > What about downloading XConfigurator for RedHat and trying that? > I'm coming in late to this conversation so apologies if this has already > been suggested. > -Original Message- > From: Tom Strickland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 4:34 AM > To: expert-mandrake > Subject: Re: [expert] XFdrake freezes -- PLEASE help! > On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 08:00:42PM +, Tom Strickland wrote: > > I recently transferred my hard drives to a friend's machine to help > > him sort a problem out. I had to reconfigure X to get things > > moving. When I came home and tried to reconfigure X, I found that > > XFdrake completely freezes. What gives? I've done it enough times > > before. This is a total freeze - I can't change terminals or the caps > > lock light and I have to hard-reset. > > What am I doing wrong? > I just can't work this out. The freeze is total - I can't even break out > using Alt-SysReq. I've completely reinstalled X from rpms and I'm > still stumped. BTW - what happened to Xconfigurator? It would be nice > if I still had it as a 2nd option, but now it links to XFdrake.
RE: [expert] XFdrake freezes -- PLEASE help!
What about downloading XConfigurator for RedHat and trying that? I'm coming in late to this conversation so apologies if this has already been suggested. David -Original Message- From: Tom Strickland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 4:34 AM To: expert-mandrake Subject: Re: [expert] XFdrake freezes -- PLEASE help! On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 08:00:42PM +, Tom Strickland wrote: > I recently transferred my hard drives to a friend's machine to help > him sort a problem out. I had to reconfigure X to get things > moving. When I came home and tried to reconfigure X, I found that > XFdrake completely freezes. What gives? I've done it enough times > before. This is a total freeze - I can't change terminals or the caps > lock light and I have to hard-reset. > What am I doing wrong? I just can't work this out. The freeze is total - I can't even break out using Alt-SysReq. I've completely reinstalled X from rpms and I'm still stumped. BTW - what happened to Xconfigurator? It would be nice if I still had it as a 2nd option, but now it links to XFdrake. Tom
Re: [expert] XFdrake freezes -- PLEASE help!
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 08:00:42PM +, Tom Strickland wrote: > I recently transferred my hard drives to a friend's machine to help > him sort a problem out. I had to reconfigure X to get things > moving. When I came home and tried to reconfigure X, I found that > XFdrake completely freezes. What gives? I've done it enough times > before. This is a total freeze - I can't change terminals or the caps > lock light and I have to hard-reset. > What am I doing wrong? I just can't work this out. The freeze is total - I can't even break out using Alt-SysReq. I've completely reinstalled X from rpms and I'm still stumped. BTW - what happened to Xconfigurator? It would be nice if I still had it as a 2nd option, but now it links to XFdrake. Tom