Re: [expert] Thank-you
If you hadn't noticed, Linux-Mandrake is a business. They're in an obvious version war with RedHat, and always try and have their latest distribution greater than RedHat's (i.e. 8.0 7.2). Eric Eric Krout Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~ekrout (Soon, EricKrout.com) Bucknell Computer Science Engineering '03 Chairman, Bucknell's Assoc. for Computing Machinery (ACM) On Fri, 11 May 2001, Chris Spencer wrote: I just wanted to express a sincere thank-you to everyone on this list. From the developers, to the long time subscribers, and even the newbies. You all have helped me in incredible ways to learn, adopt, and embrace the GNU/Linux environment. I installed Linux Mandrake for the first time about a year and a half ago, I think version 7.0. Previous to that I was using SuSE 6.3. I was a total newbie and asked a lot of annoying questions. At that time, Linux Mandrake blew me away. It was easy to install, easy to work with, fun to play with, but best of all the information I could pick up from the newbie and expert lists was amazing. I religiously read through every email, even if it didn't apply to me, so I could learn more about the amazing features of a Linux-based operating system. But times they are a changing. Mandrake is aiming their distribution at newbies - a great idea! That said, I disagree with Mandrake's direction of releasing a cutting edge distro aimed for newbie use. 8.0, although it has a lot of bells and whistles, was rushed but is unstable and frustrating to use. Cutting edge is nice, but some serious QA needs to be done IF your target audience is the newbie crowd. Developers, think about your first experiences with Linux. What did you like about it so much? I am willing to bet that one of the top reasons was stability. It doesn't crash. And everything works. If I were a newbie and installed Linux Mandrake my first impression would be Wow, that was easier to install than I thought it would be. And I would probably be impressed with the way things worked. I would not be impressed, though, with the bugs that are shipped. I would not be impressed with how the software update feature didn't work properly right out of the box. I would also not be impressed with how a seemingly innocent update would wreck my working environment. I'm talking about the recent kdelibs update. Some serious QA needs to happen if you plan to release a distro aimed at the newbie crowd. Otherwise you risk turning them away from Linux completely if things don't work right. The beta was frozen for what, two or three days before the official release? Thats not right. There are too many kinks in Mandrake 8.0 to make it release quality. A month from final beta to release candidate would have solved a lot of them. Not being a newbie anymore and feeling disgruntled after the release of Mandrake 8.0 I have removed it from my system and have installed a different distribution, one more aimed at experts. I haven't been this happy since I installed Mandrake 7.0. I have all the bells and whistles (plus more) that Mandrake 8.0 has and more stability than I am used to. Once again, thanks to everyone for helping learn this operating environment. Its a big change from Windows, but man, is it worth it. -Chris
[expert] urgent: logitech quickcam support in linux?!
i need to get my quickcam working ASAP and i'm sure others have managed to do so in linux. unfortunately, what i've tried so far has been unsuccessful. but then again, i didn't find too many sites/programs for getting the logitech quickcam working in linux. help!
Re: [expert] here now, gone tomorrow..
does it matter? the human eye can only distinguish flicker when FPS 30. On Wednesday 09 May 2001 11:39 am, you wrote: At next reboot, the gears has slowed down from 300.000 FPS down to 100.000 FPS again! I just installed a few games and gcc in between those two reboots! I dont understand what's going on. -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
[expert] Argh
I'm about to take the 5th of 5 final exams I had scheduled the past week. *So* not fair (especially since many of the artsy students had 0 finals to take). Bitchingly yours, Eric Eric Krout Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~ekrout (Soon, EricKrout.com) Bucknell Computer Science Engineering '03 Chairman, Bucknell's Assoc. for Computing Machinery (ACM)
Re: [expert] mouseconfig: requires a mouse :)
not true! just use your keyboard's TAB key and the ARROW keys to navigate, and ENTER to select a mouse. Cheers, Eric Eric Krout Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~ekrout (Soon, EricKrout.com) Bucknell Computer Science Engineering '03 Chairman, Bucknell's Assoc. for Computing Machinery (ACM) On Tue, 8 May 2001, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: just a blurb that mouseconfig program (mousedrake) requires a mouse to navigate the dialogs! :) -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
Re: [expert] mouseconfig: requires a mouse :)
On Tuesday 08 May 2001 9:56 am, you wrote: On Tuesday 08 May 2001 16:42, you wrote: not true! just use your keyboard's TAB key and the ARROW keys to navigate, and ENTER to select a mouse. Well, in my case, it was not possible. no key combination could get me to the ENTER option, or even make any difference in the dialog box that was asking me to chose one. -turgut I'm *really* having a hard time believing this. Anyone else have insight into this? - eric krout
Re: [expert] cout/cerr don't work when using c++ in mandrake 8
Nope, doesn't work with that either. This is *really* fscked up. I'd think that the best Linux distro would allow me to write a frigging hello world program in C or C++. On Monday 07 May 2001 01:33, you wrote: #include iostream.h anyone else have this problem? i did an : #include iostream in my source file, and it compiled fine, but nothing gets outputted to the buffer. any ideas? - eric
[expert] cout/cerr don't work when using c++ in mandrake 8
anyone else have this problem? i did an : #include iostream in my source file, and it compiled fine, but nothing gets outputted to the buffer. any ideas? - eric
RE: [expert] linux.com
Heh, that is pretty nice. I like the windowed look as well, and sites like freshmeat.net and linux.com have this look. So, one time, I actually found and edited some javascript that allowed people to click and drag each little window of content around their browser (even worked in NS 3). i thought that was fun (but useless from a practical standpoint!!!). Eric Eric Krout Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~ekrout (Soon, EricKrout.com) Bucknell Computer Science Engineering '03 Chairman, Bucknell's Assoc. for Computing Machinery (ACM) On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Marcel Pol wrote: On 26-Apr-01 Stephen Lawrence Jr. wrote: Anyone know if Linux.com uses an open source program that creates their web site layout or did they create it by hand? It seems that they use a php file as a css stylesheet. It is a beautifull site though. Hmm, I'm feeling inspired now :o) -- Marcel Pol [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...my cow ate the CDs.
Re: [expert] Network problem: can't connect via DHCP
I'm on a similar campus, but DHCP works fine for me :-D But that doesn't help you out ; ) I suggest taking the things your Help Desk people told you about (subnet mask, IP address, etc.) and hard-coding them rather than trying to get DHCP to automatically configure your settings for you. Offhand I'm not sure what graphical utility does this, but I'm sure it's either the main Control Center or something similar. All you have to do is click on your ethernet card and then manually set these values. This *should* work. Good luck Sincerely, Eric Eric Krout Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~ekrout (Soon, EricKrout.com) Bucknell Computer Science Engineering '03 Chairman, Bucknell's Assoc. for Computing Machinery (ACM) On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Aleksey Naumov wrote: Hi, Mandrake experts! I've just installed Mandrake 8.0 on my PII 400MHz HP at work. My computer is on a college network and connection is done with DHCP. The problem is that I can't get DHCP connection to work in Linux, while it works just fine in Win98. At boot time I get: Setting network parameters:[ OK ] Bringing up interface lo: [ OK ] Bringing up interface eth0: Determining IP information for eth0... failed. [FAILED] I've tried to play with dhcpcd parameters, but with no result: dhcpcd -v DHCP Client Daemon v.1.3.19-pl4 dhcpcd dhcpcd -r as well as playing woth the -h (host) option: dhcpcd -h foohost dhcpcd -h machine_name # name my machine is known as under Win dhcpcd -h machine_name.domainname I get the same message (in log): Apr 27 19:41:41 HAP429 dhcpcd[1355]: broadcasting DHCP_DISCOVER Apr 27 19:42:41 HAP429 dhcpcd[1355]: timed out waiting for a valid DHCP server response I also tried to use the pump daemon instead of dhcpcd: pump Operation failed. pump --win-client-ident Operation failed. as well as all -h options, but with the same result. At least pump daemon logs more info, but I don't know if it's useful. Does anyone? Here it is: Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 pumpd[1348]: PUMP: sending discover Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 pumpd[1348]: breq: opcode: 1 Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 pumpd[1348]: breq: hw: 1 Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 pumpd[1348]: breq: hwlength: 6 Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 pumpd[1348]: breq: hopcount: 0 Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 pumpd[1348]: breq: xid: 0xf5fba69c Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 pumpd[1348]: breq: secs: 0 Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 pumpd[1348]: breq: flags: 0x Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 pumpd[1348]: breq: ciaddr: 0.0.0.0 Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 pumpd[1348]: breq: yiaddr: 0.0.0.0 Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 pumpd[1348]: breq: server_ip: 0.0.0.0 Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 pumpd[1348]: breq: bootp_gw_ip: 0.0.0.0 Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 pumpd[1348]: breq: hwaddr: Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 pumpd[1348]: breq: servername: Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 pumpd[1348]: breq: bootfile: Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 pumpd[1348]: breq: vendor: 0x63 0x53 0x82 0x63 Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 pumpd[1348]: breq: vendor: 53 1 0x01 Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 pumpd[1348]: breq: vendor: 0xff Apr 27 19:37:23 HAP429 kernel: eth0: using NWAY device table, not 8 People in tech support were not very helpful (it's a Windows only campus). They gave me IP addresses for subnet, gateway and DHCP server, but what do I do with them? The DHCP server is probably run on NT. I've read the DHCP mini-howto, as well as other network howtos and I can't get this moving. I also went through network setup in Mandrake control center (as well as linuxconf), the Mandrake control center uses wizard and determines correctly that I am on a LAN and using DHCP, then reports that the network is set... and it isn't! Any ideas would be very much appreciated! Aleksey P.S. Could this be a problem with my Ethernet card rather than DHCP? It doesn't look like it to me (especially since it works perfectly under Win98), but just in case, here the info on my Ethernet card: - I have a 3Com 3c905B-Combo [Deluxe EtherLink XL 10/100] card. Of the 3 connectors the one that's is used is 10Base2 (thinnet with metal push-and-turn-to-lock). The driver used is 3c59x that came with the system. I tried to compile the newer 3c90x, but couldn't get it to compile. However, this is likely not a problem, since the Ethernet-HOWTO says that my card (3c905B) is supported by this driver (3c59x). I don't know how to check if the card itself works, but the following messages (from dmesg) make me think it's ok: dmesg ... 3c59x.c:LK1.1.13 27 Jan 2001 Donald Becker and others. http://www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html See Documentation/networking/vortex.txt eth0: 3Com PCI 3c905B Cyclone 10/100/BNC at 0x1400, 00:50:04:0a:fb:13, IRQ 11 product code 5545 rev 00.0 date 01-21-99 8K byte
Re: [expert] 2D Video Card
On Wednesday 25 April 2001 20:10, you wrote: I'm getting started on a new linux box and am having trouble finding the information I need for the video card. I don't game so I don't really care about 3D. I need a good 2D card that is no problems under linux and will make a 21 inch monitor look as good as my 19 does. Any suggestions on a card like this for $125 or less? I also don't need TV or anything like that. Thanks, Randy Donohoe From what I understand, Matrox makes nice 2D cards. I'm sure you can find a few of them for under $125 that'll look nice on your large monitor. - Eric _ Eric Krout Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~ekrout (Soon, EricKrout.com) Bucknell Computer Science Engineering '03 Chairman, Bucknell's Assoc. for Computing Machinery (ACM)
Re: [expert] Opera
Does anyone have any experience with using Opera under Linux? I have --- I have been using it under Linux and love it. Very fast and customizable, with no problems whatsoever. --- Yeah, no problems until you try and load a Java app in the browser. ;-D - Eric
[expert] LiveUpdate == Free System Fsck-Up
I tried Live Update yesterday (a utility via Drake Conf) and it screwed up X so much that it doesn't even start up. Therefore, I only have command line access. The utility was supposed to back-up my old system's state, but even that doesn't work (X has a broken pipe or something). I was running Mandrake 7.2 (with KDE 2.1.1 and the latest XFree86). Any ideas on how to get my *working* system back again? Since it's via the command line, I'd appreciate the exact syntax needed since I don't use the CL as much as I should. Thanks, Eric Eric Krout Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~ekrout (Soon, EricKrout.com) Bucknell Computer Science Engineering '03 Chairman, Bucknell's Assoc. for Computing Machinery (ACM)
[expert] Crystal Soundcard Doesn't Work In 'Drake 8.0
Can someone advise me on this problem I'm having? In previous Mandrake versions, I was able to use an old version of sndconfig to get it to work, but that doesn't work for me now. So, I'm without sound, which is terrible. This on-board card is usually referred to as a Crystal 4235 or something. Thanks, Eric
Re: [expert] 8.0 final --brakes MANY applications
On Sunday 22 April 2001 17:23, you wrote: Its driving me crazy! Everysince upgrading from 8.0 final from 8.0 beta3, many applications segmet out where before worked. Its seems that almost all programs that did not come with 8.0 final segment fault. I have tried recompiling the ones that I could with kgcc, kg++ and the such. However, I still get most of them crashing. The binary only packages, such as vmware (workstation or gsx) are hopeless. My system is a AMD T-bird 1.2 GHz. I basically installed 99% of 8.0 final. PLEASE HELP!! Its driving me crazy... TIA -- I'm not very impressed with what people are reporting about their experience with the new stable release of Mandrake, version 8.0. Does anyone have anything *good* to say about it? I might end up just sticking with my 7.2 version, which I've updated with KDE 2.1.1 already. No sense dealing with unnecessary hassle. Thanks, Eric _ Eric Krout Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~ekrout (Soon, EricKrout.com) Bucknell Computer Science Engineering '03 Chairman, Bucknell's Assoc. for Computing Machinery (ACM)
Re: [expert] OT, but hopefully humorous
And you're using Netscape 4.x because...??? At least use Opera or Konq, my friend. ;-D TGIF, Eric Eric Krout Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~ekrout (Soon, EricKrout.com) Bucknell Computer Science Engineering '03 Chairman, Bucknell's Assoc. for Computing Machinery (ACM) On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Craig Sprout wrote: You don't suppose that M$'s pages scan for user-agent, do you? http://www.crownpartsandmachine.com/craig/user-agent.gif It's silly, but hopefully ya'll will get a Friday laugh out of it... -- Craig Sprout Network Administrator Crown Parts and Machine http://www.crownpartsandmachine.com
Re: [expert] Using .rpm files to upgrade from kde 2.0.1 to kde 2.1
Well, the README.INSTALL file was not correct, as it said that everything but kdebase would install without dependency problems. I ended up having to do an: rpm -Uvh --nodeps -force for about 5 of the 10 packages or so, but it works for the most part, so I can't complain. And let me be the first to say that KDE 2.1.1 is absolutely amazing. Konqueror 0wn5 GNOME -- that's all I have too say. ;-D, Eric Eric Krout Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~ekrout (Soon, EricKrout.com) Bucknell Computer Science Engineering '03 Chairman, Bucknell's Assoc. for Computing Machinery (ACM) On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Marc wrote: Problem is that kdesu is needed by some packages, but kdesu application is already included in kdebase as well. Ans there some other packages that overlap eachother. You should upgrade the packages with the options: rpm -Uvh --nodeps --force *.rpm I worked for me. Althoug it is not the most clean way of installing it worked and I read this in a README.INSTALL on kde.org . - Original Message - From: "Alan Shoemaker" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Using .rpm files to upgrade from kde 2.0.1 to kde 2.1 Eric Krout wrote: Myself and many others have had problems upgrading to kde 2.1 from 2.0.1, even though we're all using .rpm files. I have seen a few FAQs on the web on how to do this, but none that I've seen remarked about getting any errors that prevent such an upgrade. I run a mailing list on my machine and cannot afford any downtime that could happen as a result of screwiness with a kde upgrade; however, I *really* want the newest version of Konqueror ;) So, does anyone have a solution to these problems with dependencies and symlinks that myself and many others have been getting? I don't have enough spare time and can't interrupt my uptime, so I'm looking for the easy way out since I can't experiment much on my own. Thank you *very* much. Sincerely, Eric Ericthe most painless method is to do an upgrade install of MandrakeFreq. The iso is available on the mirrors or you can by the CD (real cheap) from either: http://www.cheapbytes.com/ or http://www.lsl.com/ -- Alan
Re: [expert] /proc/kcore - getting big
It should be removeable, considering it's just a core dump of sorts. Advisingly yours, Eric Eric Krout Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~ekrout (Soon, EricKrout.com) Bucknell Computer Science Engineering '03 Chairman, Bucknell's Assoc. for Computing Machinery (ACM) On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Andrew Judge wrote: I was looking at my file system and noticed that the /proc/kcore file was getting pretty big and taking up alot of space. What can I do to get the size down and won't blowup my machine? Can I delete it then touch the file? I was also a little curious what the file is for. Best regards, Andrew Judge
Re: [expert] /proc/kcore - getting big
Sorry if my message was misleading. I should have been specific and stated that /proc/kcore is just a pseudo-file made up by the kernel. I guess it's best that you *don't* delete it, even though it may appear to be some huge file ;) Its size is actually a representation of how much (SD)RAM you have. Good luck, Eric Eric Krout Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~ekrout (Soon, EricKrout.com) Bucknell Computer Science Engineering '03 Chairman, Bucknell's Assoc. for Computing Machinery (ACM) On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Eric Krout wrote: It should be removeable, considering it's just a core dump of sorts. This is incorrect.
Re: [expert]OS idenity,Dhcp Eth0 and more!!
First off, DHCP *should* work for you if you have a DHCP server on your domain that you can authenticate to (i.e. your Ethernet (MAC) address is registered with the server and it knows what IP to assign you). But, since this isn't a perfect world, that may not always work. DHCP on a Windows machine and a client with a Linux box don't always make for the best combination. So, when DHCP doesn't do the trick, try manually specifying your settings for IP address, gateway, dns, etc. using Mandrake's built in, pretty GUI software. Tinker with them until it works. If still no dice, buy a Netgear FA310TX; it's the best buy *ever* for a 10/100 Ethernet card (you can get 'em for $4.95 right now). gl, Eric Eric Krout Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~ekrout (Soon, EricKrout.com) Bucknell Computer Science Engineering '03 Chairman, Bucknell's Assoc. for Computing Machinery (ACM) On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, phil wrote: Any comments thanks in advance?? When i run ifup eth0 I get an error message unable to get ip info via dhcpcd. I have went thru netconf a dozen times.If i am using dhcp then no need to enter the Ip address or any of the other things DNS etc. Correct? FYI: Linux for Windows (7.2 Mandrake) on a Hp 600mhz ceoron 256mb ram, realtek networkcard trying to get online via Cable modem Road Runner acess. I have read everthing online(well almost) And Tried almost Everything. concerning Road Runner Cable service,Apparently I am not the only Linux user that has tried to get online thru Road Runner? Does anyone know anything about if my eth0 card is Bind to the dhcp,could that be the prob? From what I have read I really think that Road runner would prefer that I stick with Windows. from further reading http://www.insecure.org/nmap/nmap-fingerprinting-article.html http://www.sans.org/newlook/resources/IDFAQ/TCP_fingerprinting.htm Even though with DHCP the OS should not matter right?IN THEORY. Could Road runner be preventing me from getting online thru there service?THey are able to Idenify Your OS Is Linux considered the Hackers OS? to some people Although that is not my intentions! I enjoy trying to get Linux to run, And after all this Windows Quite boring. I might as well sign up for AOL aargh LOLPS please dont flame me.
Re: [expert] mkinitrd but what?
What's with that silly .sig of yours about Dale Earnheart? Questioningly yours, Eric Eric Krout Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~ekrout (Soon, EricKrout.com) Bucknell Computer Science Engineering '03 Chairman, Bucknell's Assoc. for Computing Machinery (ACM) On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 14 April 2001 04:49 am, Daryl Johnson wrote: Would some kind person be prepared to supply some insight? In the statement mkinitrd /boot/[name of image] [new kernel version] I am starting with [name of image] = initrd-2.4.0.img but I am increasingly puzzled as to [new kernel version] The man and info pages don't help a lot As usual a good example would help immensely mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.3-10tom.img 2.4.3-10tom I compiled 2.4.3-10mdk from source, editing EXTRAVERSION = -10tom in the Makefile. If I'd installed the readymade kernel, I would have left it as -10mdk. If your /boot/vmlinux points to vmlinux-2.4.0, then you'd run mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.0.img 2.4.0 -- Dale Earnhardt, the greatest stock car driver ever, he's won his 8th and His Greatest Championship Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[expert] Using .rpm files to upgrade from kde 2.0.1 to kde 2.1
Myself and many others have had problems upgrading to kde 2.1 from 2.0.1, even though we're all using .rpm files. I have seen a few FAQs on the web on how to do this, but none that I've seen remarked about getting any errors that prevent such an upgrade. I run a mailing list on my machine and cannot afford any downtime that could happen as a result of screwiness with a kde upgrade; however, I *really* want the newest version of Konqueror ;) So, does anyone have a solution to these problems with dependencies and symlinks that myself and many others have been getting? I don't have enough spare time and can't interrupt my uptime, so I'm looking for the easy way out since I can't experiment much on my own. Thank you *very* much. Sincerely, Eric Eric Krout Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~ekrout (Soon, EricKrout.com) Bucknell Computer Science Engineering '03 Chairman, Bucknell's Assoc. for Computing Machinery (ACM)
Re: [expert] Fwd: OT: starting a linux group.
By "community" do you mean an online community? If that's the case, I've heard good things about PHPNuke (phpnuke.org, I think) and it should be easy to setup from an out-of-the-box Mandrake install. Good luck, Eric ____ Eric Krout Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~ekrout (Soon, EricKrout.com) Bucknell Computer Science Engineering '03 Chairman, Bucknell's Assoc. for Computing Machinery (ACM) On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Gavin Rollins wrote: -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: OT: starting a linux group. Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 02:52:18 +0900 From: Gavin Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ladies and Gents, I am trying to start a linux group in a little town call Fukushimaken, Fukushima City which is located in Japan. I anyone would like to help me build a linux community (any flavor) from scratch, please let contact me. I'm American and I live in Nankodai. I speak a little Japanese so if you speak a little english, I think we can make it work. It all about trying and learning. Hope to hear from some users soon. Sincerely, Gavin (Japan) ---
[expert] Delete vs. Shred
What's the difference? Can 'delete'd files still be recoverable by experts, but 'shred'ed ones cannot? Thanks, Eric Eric Krout Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~ekrout (Soon, EricKrout.com) Bucknell Computer Science Engineering '03 Chairman, Bucknell's Assoc. for Computing Machinery (ACM)
