Re: [FairfieldLife] In or out redux
> 4) I'm out. I'm curious if this option refers to those who have left the movement. Here's my choice: 5) I don't want to be jerked around yet again for yet another grand project that will go absolutely nowhere and pay out absolutely nothing. --- Patrick Gillam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I got a phone call from an area Governor last night, > > relaying a message from Raja Kingsley Brooks (I > believe it was). He wanted the message to go out > by phone, rather than an e-mail. It had these > variations > from the message reprinted here in recent days: > > I had my choice of four responses: > > 1) I'm ready to teach full time now for US $2,000 > per month. > 2) I'll teach full time for $2k/mo., but I need time > > to untie some present engagements. > 3) I'd be interested if the salary were higher > because > I have kids in college or other commitments that > > necessitate more money. > 4) I'm out. > > And the call relayed his wrinkle: the offer is only > for men. Women need not apply. > > The irony of this last condition is that I was > getting the call from a woman Governor > who's been faithfully carrying the TM torch for > years. > > - Patrick Gillam > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/22/05 8:08:59 P.M. Central > > > > > > > Standard Time, > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, why not let the parents assume guardianship, > > > > > > > and care for her as > > > > > > > they want? Who exactly is she a burden to - that > > > > > > > she deserves to > > > > > > > die. Do you really believe her husband genuinely > > > > > > > cares for her? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lurk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have to agree with this point of view. Obviously > > > > > > > Michael has abandoned her > > > > > > > and now has a common law wife with children, not > > > > > > > exactly your devoted loving > > > > > > > husband. Her family loves her and wants to take care > > > > > > > of her. Michael should > > > > > > > lose guardianship just on the basis that he has left > > > > > > > her for another woman. > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what I can't figure out either. Why does this > > > > > > guy have such a hard-on about having her die? Other > > > > > > people are perfectly willing to take care of her. I > > > > > > guess legally he speaks for her, not her parents. > > > > > > -Peter > > > > > > > > > > > I have understood that he then gets her estate, which > includes > > > the > > > > > bulk of the large medical insurance settlement (over 1-2 > million > > > I > > > > > believe). Is this correct? -- I have not kept up with all > the > > > details. > > > > + There was some pretty serious money involved and, even > tho a > > > > lot was spent on lawyers trying to have her eliminated, there > > > remains > > > > enough to fight over. N. > > > > > > There have been many accusations both ways. I also heard that > the > > > parents have received over $700,000 from the pro-lifers. Larry > King > > > is on now, both sides have been on his show with many > accusations. > > > Who knows what is for real. Having a brain full of jelly doesn't > > > really make it realistic that she is gonna recover after 19 > years. > > > The MRI of her brain was shown on TV, also explanations of how a > > > vegetable behaves- ie it can LOOK like she is responding but she > may > > > act the same way when no one is around. The 4 minute tape was > > > illegally obtained and took 4 1/2 hours to get 4 minutes like > that. > > > According to her husband, she fell unconscious in the middle of > the > > > night. One thing they know is that her potassium level was > > > extrememly low. Her husband said she gorged on food and they > thought > > > maybe she was bulimic, which would explain the low postassium. > Like > > > I said before, NO ONE knows the whole story. > > > > If she is bulimic it would also explain her broken bones from > osteoporosis. > You guys gotta watch larry KIng, he's my hero because he can host > both sides of the fence and asks them really good questions. He will > say stuff like, "you have been accused of.what do you have to > say"? > OK I gotta say this one thing. Blame it on Mercury. There is so much > being said about how Terri is conscious and doctors explanations > that a body has certain physical reactions that appear to have some > awareness with them but are really just physical reactions. One time > when I was a kid, my uncle went duck hunting. He said when you > prepare the duck after it is dead, there is this one cord in its > neck. if you find it you can pull it and the duck will quack even > though it is dead. OK enough said. So did you try to pull your uncle's cord? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Like > > I said before, NO ONE knows the whole story. > > except the right-wing religious freak propaganda mill where nelson > gets all his information watch CNN now it is talking about a 5 month old baby on life support in Texas. the mom didn't want to remove life support but by Texas law signed by George W, the life support had to be removed! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: American Idol
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now this is much more interesting news for an exalted Mercury babe > during mercury retrograde (disclaimer) > > American Idol puts up wrong numbers for 3 contestants > http://www.curlio.com/new_showarticle.php?id=6895 > > OMG did you hear Mikala tonight. Oh dear, wrong yahoo group Well, Mikalah is one heck of Kapri-korn! (But Kowell wanted to be Amanda's mikrofone in a future lifetime!) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sense perception / drug addiction
best re-setter may be the hallucinogens ironically the way out may involve the same chems that got you in. The difference is the set and setting, and probably dosage. In other words, dont now go out and trip and think its the answer. Street tripping that ignores set and setting is very unwise, but a more educated session (counseled/guided/well-planned [in a country where its legal]) can work wonders and have long-lasting therapeutic benefits. Again, check out ibogaine --OK, I'll check out Ibogaine, though it'll prolly be more in the form of Tabernathe iboga since I have no Ibogaine hook up. I'm a do it yourself type person. I remember one year going back to MIU on CCP after having smoked crack just the day before. I rounded just fine and felt perfectly normal then. I hung out with Ted W and his girlfriend SL and told them all about it. I'm not sure what it is with me. Sometimes I have thought that knowing that I could self heal with TM made me do the same bad mistakes over and over. That invincible feeling that rounding gives you. Made me able to endure the drug life many different times and ways, and each one intense and scary and fun. I guess that's the rush of it all. The intensity is the problem because everything seems so vague and boring when straight for short periods. When I clean up though it's easy. I gave up crack ten years back and never wanted it again. I'm not into coke. I think it's an ugly drug. I'm not into heroin. I think it's also an ugly drug. All I really like are the natural things like torch, aya, herb, poppies, kratom, and so on. These are the bitterest alkaloids on Earth. I can't tell how connected I feel to the Earth through her treasures. So great a joy so small a sin. Ise knocking Mr. Quency let me in! Thanks for being cool Mark. Right On! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
Like > I said before, NO ONE knows the whole story. except the right-wing religious freak propaganda mill where nelson gets all his information To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/22/05 8:08:59 P.M. Central > > > > > > Standard Time, > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > So, why not let the parents assume guardianship, > > > > > > and care for her as > > > > > > they want? Who exactly is she a burden to - that > > > > > > she deserves to > > > > > > die. Do you really believe her husband genuinely > > > > > > cares for her? > > > > > > > > > > > > lurk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have to agree with this point of view. Obviously > > > > > > Michael has abandoned her > > > > > > and now has a common law wife with children, not > > > > > > exactly your devoted loving > > > > > > husband. Her family loves her and wants to take care > > > > > > of her. Michael should > > > > > > lose guardianship just on the basis that he has left > > > > > > her for another woman. > > > > > > > > > > That's what I can't figure out either. Why does this > > > > > guy have such a hard-on about having her die? Other > > > > > people are perfectly willing to take care of her. I > > > > > guess legally he speaks for her, not her parents. > > > > > -Peter > > > > > > > > > I have understood that he then gets her estate, which includes > > the > > > > bulk of the large medical insurance settlement (over 1-2 million > > I > > > > believe). Is this correct? -- I have not kept up with all the > > details. > > > + There was some pretty serious money involved and, even tho a > > > lot was spent on lawyers trying to have her eliminated, there > > remains > > > enough to fight over. N. > > > > There have been many accusations both ways. I also heard that the > > parents have received over $700,000 from the pro-lifers. Larry King > > is on now, both sides have been on his show with many accusations. > > Who knows what is for real. Having a brain full of jelly doesn't > > really make it realistic that she is gonna recover after 19 years. > > The MRI of her brain was shown on TV, also explanations of how a > > vegetable behaves- ie it can LOOK like she is responding but she may > > act the same way when no one is around. The 4 minute tape was > > illegally obtained and took 4 1/2 hours to get 4 minutes like that. > > According to her husband, she fell unconscious in the middle of the > > night. One thing they know is that her potassium level was > > extrememly low. Her husband said she gorged on food and they thought > > maybe she was bulimic, which would explain the low postassium. Like > > I said before, NO ONE knows the whole story. > > If she is bulimic it would also explain her broken bones from osteoporosis. You guys gotta watch larry KIng, he's my hero because he can host both sides of the fence and asks them really good questions. He will say stuff like, "you have been accused of.what do you have to say"? OK I gotta say this one thing. Blame it on Mercury. There is so much being said about how Terri is conscious and doctors explanations that a body has certain physical reactions that appear to have some awareness with them but are really just physical reactions. One time when I was a kid, my uncle went duck hunting. He said when you prepare the duck after it is dead, there is this one cord in its neck. if you find it you can pull it and the duck will quack even though it is dead. OK enough said. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/22/05 8:08:59 P.M. Central > > > > > Standard Time, > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > > So, why not let the parents assume guardianship, > > > > > and care for her as > > > > > they want? Who exactly is she a burden to - that > > > > > she deserves to > > > > > die. Do you really believe her husband genuinely > > > > > cares for her? > > > > > > > > > > lurk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have to agree with this point of view. Obviously > > > > > Michael has abandoned her > > > > > and now has a common law wife with children, not > > > > > exactly your devoted loving > > > > > husband. Her family loves her and wants to take care > > > > > of her. Michael should > > > > > lose guardianship just on the basis that he has left > > > > > her for another woman. > > > > > > > > That's what I can't figure out either. Why does this > > > > guy have such a hard-on about having her die? Other > > > > people are perfectly willing to take care of her. I > > > > guess legally he speaks for her, not her parents. > > > > -Peter > > > > > > > I have understood that he then gets her estate, which includes > the > > > bulk of the large medical insurance settlement (over 1-2 million > I > > > believe). Is this correct? -- I have not kept up with all the > details. > > + There was some pretty serious money involved and, even tho a > > lot was spent on lawyers trying to have her eliminated, there > remains > > enough to fight over. N. > > There have been many accusations both ways. I also heard that the > parents have received over $700,000 from the pro-lifers. Larry King > is on now, both sides have been on his show with many accusations. > Who knows what is for real. Having a brain full of jelly doesn't > really make it realistic that she is gonna recover after 19 years. > The MRI of her brain was shown on TV, also explanations of how a > vegetable behaves- ie it can LOOK like she is responding but she may > act the same way when no one is around. The 4 minute tape was > illegally obtained and took 4 1/2 hours to get 4 minutes like that. > According to her husband, she fell unconscious in the middle of the > night. One thing they know is that her potassium level was > extrememly low. Her husband said she gorged on food and they thought > maybe she was bulimic, which would explain the low postassium. Like > I said before, NO ONE knows the whole story. If she is bulimic it would also explain her broken bones from osteoporosis. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rudra Joe- language request
cute - Original Message - From: mark robert To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:12 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rudra Joe- language request From: Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:11 AMTo: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rudra Joe- language request --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>wrote:> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> > > > wrote:> > > > This isn't your classroom. Did you live through the 60's? perhaps > > > if we were a little more > > > > realistic with each other and each generation we would not be so > > > fucking uptight.> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> > Who said anything about a classroom? Not everyone has to curse to be> > realistic; many nice funny happy fine good wonderful people who are> > quite real don't curse or at least don't constantly curse. Being> > realistic doesn't mean you have to curse in every single> > written/spoken conversation.> > So there!> > Ken> So you are now the arbiter of good taste and content. I think theremight be an opening > for you at the FCC these days. Perhaps you should burn books on theweekend maybe as a > hobby to start with, then full time. Go back and read Fahrenheit451. Are you blind as to > what is going on in this country in respect to free speech and mediacontrol by a few > companies?+ This is interesting- (living thru the sixties) Is that relevant? I lived thru the sixties,the fifties, the forties and some ofthe thirties so what? Most of RJ's posts , although I didn't see it at first,showsome brilliance but, I would observe that any diamond could use alittle polish on occaision. - Hey, as long as its cool to ask others to control their words here, Id like to participate: I would like to ask Vaj to clean up his language a tad. FWIW Vaj, if you could limit your frequent use of Indian/Hindu/Vedic/Eastern/TMO terms somewhat that would be great. I mean of course I know what they all mean and I use them daily myself with family, friends, etc. (a-hem) but other less intelligent people don't appreciate them cause they dont know their definitions. AND there is no way to know in advance if they will be included. I mean your posts have enough Eastern wisdom to them that you don't need to add the intimidating lingo. If you can handle it, I mean, come on man, you could use a little less polish. J -Mark To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Practical effects of enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tom Traynor wrote: > > Tom T clarifies: > The good news is that everything has changed in how you perceive and > handle the challenges of day to day life. There is almost nothing > that can overcome the feeling of certainty that things are as they are > and have always been so. Even in the most disastrous events in > personal life that certainty can not be overcome for very long at all. > Bottom line is that stuff still happens but it no longer sticks or > really matters. It is kind of like being Teflon coated, the same old > stuff hits the fan and you are untouched. So nothing changes, stuff > hits the fan. Everything changes, and it doesn't touch or harm you. > Makes for an easy life in that you now see it for what it is and that > is OK. > Tom T Hey Tom Doesn't this happen naturally as one gets older anyway? This era of my life, 56 and moving fast, seems to be an era of greater acceptance of life as life is. Many in this age bracket, meditators or not, seem to come to this kind of understanding and my understanding of this is that at some point, maybe mid 50s its a natural shift. Ken To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] In or out redux
That's cause you fucking rock Rick. It's really because your raised the rebel flag. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] In or out redux on 3/22/05 10:10 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > I got a call too. I haven't called back yet.> -Peter> --- Patrick Gillam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> I bet I won't get one. I've been getting flak lately about my "negativewebsite" (this one).To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] American Idol
Now this is much more interesting news for an exalted Mercury babe during mercury retrograde (disclaimer) American Idol puts up wrong numbers for 3 contestants http://www.curlio.com/new_showarticle.php?id=6895 OMG did you hear Mikala tonight. Oh dear, wrong yahoo group To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: In or out redux
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 3/22/05 11:17 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> That I'm providing a forum for the expression of negativity and > > unwarranted > >> criticism of Maharishi. > > > > Where does one obtain a warrant for criticism of MMY these days? > > > LB grants them, for a fee. I think they should be given for free. Who is this LB, where can I get a warrant to criticise him too. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/22/05 8:08:59 P.M. Central > > > > Standard Time, > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > So, why not let the parents assume guardianship, > > > > and care for her as > > > > they want? Who exactly is she a burden to - that > > > > she deserves to > > > > die. Do you really believe her husband genuinely > > > > cares for her? > > > > > > > > lurk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have to agree with this point of view. Obviously > > > > Michael has abandoned her > > > > and now has a common law wife with children, not > > > > exactly your devoted loving > > > > husband. Her family loves her and wants to take care > > > > of her. Michael should > > > > lose guardianship just on the basis that he has left > > > > her for another woman. > > > > > > That's what I can't figure out either. Why does this > > > guy have such a hard-on about having her die? Other > > > people are perfectly willing to take care of her. I > > > guess legally he speaks for her, not her parents. > > > -Peter > > > > > I have understood that he then gets her estate, which includes the > > bulk of the large medical insurance settlement (over 1-2 million I > > believe). Is this correct? -- I have not kept up with all the details. > + There was some pretty serious money involved and, even tho a > lot was spent on lawyers trying to have her eliminated, there remains > enough to fight over. N. There have been many accusations both ways. I also heard that the parents have received over $700,000 from the pro-lifers. Larry King is on now, both sides have been on his show with many accusations. Who knows what is for real. Having a brain full of jelly doesn't really make it realistic that she is gonna recover after 19 years. The MRI of her brain was shown on TV, also explanations of how a vegetable behaves- ie it can LOOK like she is responding but she may act the same way when no one is around. The 4 minute tape was illegally obtained and took 4 1/2 hours to get 4 minutes like that. According to her husband, she fell unconscious in the middle of the night. One thing they know is that her potassium level was extrememly low. Her husband said she gorged on food and they thought maybe she was bulimic, which would explain the low postassium. Like I said before, NO ONE knows the whole story. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ask Dr. Shulgin
That's pretty cool. - Original Message - From: anonymousff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ask Dr. Shulgin Given recent discussion on Shulgin, and "hero-status", I found thislink. We can ask him questions.ask linkhttp://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/blg/2005/01/welcome-new-look-for-2005.htmlroot lnkhttp://www.cognitiveliberty.org/index.htmlI asked him the following question. We'll see if he answers.Can you please share any insights on Soma -- the drink of the gods,the drink of immortality, prevelant in the Indian / Vedic Rig Veda. Iam interested in the identity of the some plant, its processing, thestructure of its refined state after processing, and its effects. Anybotanical and bio-chemical insights on the traditional substance andpossible modern correlates are appreciated. Thank you. To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Practical effects of enlightenment
Tom Traynor wrote: > Once this lady got the Understanding then it > all fell into place and she saw it all as the > perfection and she now rests in absolute > certainty while still living the paradox of a > typical turbulent life in FF. That is the underlying > paradox, nothing in life has changed and > everything has changed. Patrick Gillam:writes If nothing changes in daily life, what's the point of pursuing enlightenment? Is it merely that the daily mishegaas goes on, but one's response to it changes? It was a big part of the TM pitch that higher consciousness improves daily life. I'd like to test that conclusion against some real-life stories of people who've awakened. Tom T clarifies: The good news is that everything has changed in how you perceive and handle the challenges of day to day life. There is almost nothing that can overcome the feeling of certainty that things are as they are and have always been so. Even in the most disastrous events in personal life that certainty can not be overcome for very long at all. Bottom line is that stuff still happens but it no longer sticks or really matters. It is kind of like being Teflon coated, the same old stuff hits the fan and you are untouched. So nothing changes, stuff hits the fan. Everything changes, and it doesn't touch or harm you. Makes for an easy life in that you now see it for what it is and that is OK. Tom T To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In or out redux
on 3/22/05 11:17 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> That I'm providing a forum for the expression of negativity and > unwarranted >> criticism of Maharishi. > > Where does one obtain a warrant for criticism of MMY these days? > LB grants them, for a fee. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anybody ever seen this stuff?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> http://www.vi1.org/mantras/srividya.shtmlSeems like lousy "Dravidian" Sanskrit transliteration...yeah, but do you get it? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: steamed, sautéed, or pickled
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 3/22/05 10:42 PM, Kenny H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > If you were going to lie in a persistent vegetative state which > > vegetable and which state would you choose? > > > Rutabagas. Montana. I would choose, though a tough choice, a fat juicy summertime beefsteak tomato in the high desert of New Mexico. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: In or out redux
> That I'm providing a forum for the expression of negativity and unwarranted > criticism of Maharishi. Where does one obtain a warrant for criticism of MMY these days? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] steamed, sautéed, or pickled
on 3/22/05 10:42 PM, Kenny H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > If you were going to lie in a persistent vegetative state which > vegetable and which state would you choose? > Rutabagas. Montana. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
on 3/22/05 10:35 PM, Nelson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It seems quite likely (to me) that there are a lot of people > involved with a lot to loose that cant afford to have this gal get the > required therapy and start talking. How many informed medical experts seriously believe that she is capable of regaining the ability to speak? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In or out redux
on 3/22/05 10:27 PM, Kenny H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Rick > What kind of flak do you get? Who are the flakkers? What form does it > take? Do you have the feeling it would be better if you let your > involvement with this site go (not the site itself, just your > involvement)? > Ken I was over in the Ottumwa Menards (big hardware store) on Sunday when a guy from Fairfield, walking by me, said, "I've been hearing a lot about your web site. None of it positive." I said, "You mean FFL? There have been nearly 50,000 posts on there, only a fraction of them mine." He said, "you shouldn't be providing a forum for the expression of negativity." I said, "I believe in freedom of speech." We emailed back and forth a few times when I got home, basically elaborating on the same sentiments. This was the same guy who accosted in Thai Deli the woman who organized Ammachi's first visit, angrily telling her that this was "Maharishi's town." A close friend emailed me today asking whether it's true that I've been making negative statements about MMY online. I said that I believed that no one was above criticism - Maharishi, Ammachi, me, him (especially him). We agreed to talk over lunch. Another old friend and client became an ex-client because he didn't want to support someone doing what I'm doing. I'm happy to continue my involvement with this site. Not a problem. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: In or out redux
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 3/22/05 7:36 PM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> on 3/22/05 10:10 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> I got a call too. I haven't called back yet. > >>> -Peter > >>> --- Patrick Gillam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I bet I won't get one. I've been getting flak lately about > > my "negative > >> website" (this one). > > > > More flak than usual? What's the beef? > > > That I'm providing a forum for the expression of negativity and unwarranted > criticism of Maharishi. + Some people's truth is other people's negativity- dont worry Rick we're with ya. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In or out redux
on 3/22/05 10:23 PM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >> That I'm providing a forum for the expression of negativity and > unwarranted >> criticism of Maharishi. > > I'm coming up on my one year anniversary. This site is like my > after dinner drink, my nightcap, and my morning nip. > I hope you're over 21. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 3/22/05 7:25 PM, Nelson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > + Ok, I would bet that in being her, they would know that the > > problem was brought on by her husband choking her and breaking some > > bones and so her resolve to live and see it all brought to light has > > kept her going all this time. > > > The public story was she had a heart attack. There were broken bones? How > does her husband explain those? + There were a number of cracked and broken bones that showed up in a scan done at a later date but it was never investigated and later dismissed as old evidence by judge G who the sherrif was a big supporter of. Quite a few people tied into the deal in gross conflicts of interest but, with a judge to dismiss evidence at every turn they have no problem. Last I talked to my wife, who is still there, she said the whole scene is like a frightening Alfred Hitchcock movie only instead, it's happening for real and, she is in it. N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 3/22/05 8:08:59 P.M. Central > > > Standard Time, > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > So, why not let the parents assume guardianship, > > > and care for her as > > > they want? Who exactly is she a burden to - that > > > she deserves to > > > die. Do you really believe her husband genuinely > > > cares for her? > > > > > > lurk > > > > > > > > > > > > I have to agree with this point of view. Obviously > > > Michael has abandoned her > > > and now has a common law wife with children, not > > > exactly your devoted loving > > > husband. Her family loves her and wants to take care > > > of her. Michael should > > > lose guardianship just on the basis that he has left > > > her for another woman. > > > > That's what I can't figure out either. Why does this > > guy have such a hard-on about having her die? Other > > people are perfectly willing to take care of her. I > > guess legally he speaks for her, not her parents. > > -Peter > > > I have understood that he then gets her estate, which includes the > bulk of the large medical insurance settlement (over 1-2 million I > believe). Is this correct? -- I have not kept up with all the details. + There was some pretty serious money involved and, even tho a lot was spent on lawyers trying to have her eliminated, there remains enough to fight over. N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] steamed, sauteed, or pickled
If you were going to lie in a persistent vegetative state which vegetable and which state would you choose? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > In a message dated 3/22/05 8:08:59 P.M. Central > > Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > So, why not let the parents assume guardianship, > > and care for her as > > they want? Who exactly is she a burden to - that > > she deserves to > > die. Do you really believe her husband genuinely > > cares for her? > > > > lurk > > > > > > > > I have to agree with this point of view. Obviously > > Michael has abandoned her > > and now has a common law wife with children, not > > exactly your devoted loving > > husband. Her family loves her and wants to take care > > of her. Michael should > > lose guardianship just on the basis that he has left > > her for another woman. > > That's what I can't figure out either. Why does this > guy have such a hard-on about having her die? Other > people are perfectly willing to take care of her. I > guess legally he speaks for her, not her parents. > -Peter > + Hi Dr.P, If you have the time and could read some of the details that havent been too filtered by the media, you would figure it out easily. It seems quite likely (to me) that there are a lot of people involved with a lot to loose that cant afford to have this gal get the required therapy and start talking. Michael S has a web site you can find on Google- see what your opinion is on that. When I looked at it, it seemed to me(as a non-professional diagnosis) that this guy has a serious case of toys in the attic. Now they have made Tom Delay mad too and, I would guess he has a pretty big ego and will get on their case but chances of saving her are getting slimmer rapidly. Congress directed a federal judge, picked at random, to review the case from scratch. Oddly, the judge is from Florida and ,since it required only a matter of hours to review the many years of testimony, one might think it probable that he had the ruling figured out before he got there. There is so much BS surrounding this case as to be beyond belief- probably best not to get involved or you might end up with a case of aggrivated Poess extremis like I am commencing to have. N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: In or out redux
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rick snip[ > Do you have the feeling it would be better if you let your > involvement with this site go (not the site itself, just your > involvement)? I don't think Upanishadick rules apply here, "the creator, having completed his creation, then withdrew", (or some such thing) lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
lurkernomore20002000 wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > snip > > > What if you and your wife > > are in a car accident together and she dies and you are in a coma. > > Who decides what happens? This can cause alot of family problems. > > You need a directive whether or not you think you do! YOU BAD BOY > GO > > TO YOUR ATTORNEY! I bet you can find one online. > > Good advice.(Your hallmark) > > lurk Yes, very good advice and I strongly encourage you to have a copy put in your med file and discuss this with your primary care physician. I was the executor of such a document and was informed by hospital staff that had it come down to it, I would have had a hard time imposing my will (to disconnect) since it was not in the file ahead of time. FWIW. Don To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: In or out redux
Rick What kind of flak do you get? Who are the flakkers? What form does it take? Do you have the feeling it would be better if you let your involvement with this site go (not the site itself, just your involvement)? Ken --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 3/22/05 7:36 PM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> on 3/22/05 10:10 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> I got a call too. I haven't called back yet. > >>> -Peter > >>> --- Patrick Gillam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I bet I won't get one. I've been getting flak lately about > > my "negative > >> website" (this one). > > > > More flak than usual? What's the beef? > > > That I'm providing a forum for the expression of negativity and unwarranted > criticism of Maharishi. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FOXNews.com - Hannity & Colmes - Interview - Transcript: A Doctor Who Has Ex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A Doctor Who Has Examined Terri Talks with Hannity & Colmes > > > > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151148,00.html > > > > Hey Rick could you put this one on ffl? it would add some > clarification to > > the issue (maybe). > > I realize most people have their mind made up and don't want to > be > > confused with facts but, at this point, they have it coming. > > more facts: > > http://majikthise.typepad.com/majikthise_/2005/03/debunking_lies_.html If this site is credible, my prior understanding stands corrected: Michael Schiavo just wants to inherit Terri's fortune What fortune? Even the pro-tube Terri Schiavo Foundation reports that of the nearly one million dollar malpractice settlement earmarked for Terri's future medical care, less than $50,000 is left. The TSF is righteously indignant that a fair chunk of that money has gone to attorneys' fees. A judge authorized Michael Schiavo to spend that money on legal representation for himself and his incapacitated wife. It's odd that the TSF is so indignant, seeing as they picked the legal fight that depleted the account. The TSF also acknowledges that Schiavo offered to donate whatever money he stood to inherit to charity if Terri's parents would stop trying interfere with his right to make medical decisions on behalf of his wife. I just hope that these character assassins can be discredited before they ruin another person's life. Michael Schiavo has suffered enough. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: In or out redux
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've been getting flak lately about > > my "negative > >> website" (this one). > > > > More flak than usual? What's the beef? > > > That I'm providing a forum for the expression of negativity and unwarranted > criticism of Maharishi. I'm coming up on my one year anniversary. This site is like my after dinner drink, my nightcap, and my morning nip. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FOXNews.com - Hannity & Colmes - Interview - Transcript: A Doctor Who Has Examined Terri Talks with Hannity & Colmes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A Doctor Who Has Examined Terri Talks with Hannity & Colmes > > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151148,00.html > > Hey Rick could you put this one on ffl? it would add some clarification to > the issue (maybe). > I realize most people have their mind made up and don't want to be > confused with facts but, at this point, they have it coming. more facts: http://majikthise.typepad.com/majikthise_/2005/03/debunking_lies_.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
on 3/22/05 7:50 PM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Well that certainly is grounds to put her to death. She is such a > burden on, um well, on well, well she just deserves to die and thats > that. > I'm not saying she deserves to die. If I were her I'd want to die, but not by starvation and dehydration. Gimme the morphine. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In or out redux
on 3/22/05 7:36 PM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on 3/22/05 10:10 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> >>> I got a call too. I haven't called back yet. >>> -Peter >>> --- Patrick Gillam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I bet I won't get one. I've been getting flak lately about > my "negative >> website" (this one). > > More flak than usual? What's the beef? > That I'm providing a forum for the expression of negativity and unwarranted criticism of Maharishi. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
on 3/22/05 7:25 PM, Nelson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > + Ok, I would bet that in being her, they would know that the > problem was brought on by her husband choking her and breaking some > bones and so her resolve to live and see it all brought to light has > kept her going all this time. > The public story was she had a heart attack. There were broken bones? How does her husband explain those? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Infinite or Cosmic Mind (Mahat) 1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I second that! Welcome back, Rory! Many thanks, gf; I appreciate your warm welcome! It's always good to see you. :-) R. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] FOXNews.com - Hannity & Colmes - Interview - Transcript: A Doctor Who Has Examined Terri Talks with Hannity & Colmes
A Doctor Who Has Examined Terri Talks with Hannity & Colmes http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151148,00.html Hey Rick could you put this one on ffl? it would add some clarification to the issue (maybe). I realize most people have their mind made up and don't want to be confused with facts but, at this point, they have it coming. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have understood that he then gets her estate, which includes the > bulk of the large medical insurance settlement (over 1-2 million I > believe). Is this correct? -- I have not kept up with all the details. The more you dig into the details, the less favorable light her "husband" appears in. (bad syntax) lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > In a message dated 3/22/05 8:08:59 P.M. Central > > Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > So, why not let the parents assume guardianship, > > and care for her as > > they want? Who exactly is she a burden to - that > > she deserves to > > die. Do you really believe her husband genuinely > > cares for her? > > > > lurk > > > > > > > > I have to agree with this point of view. Obviously > > Michael has abandoned her > > and now has a common law wife with children, not > > exactly your devoted loving > > husband. Her family loves her and wants to take care > > of her. Michael should > > lose guardianship just on the basis that he has left > > her for another woman. > > That's what I can't figure out either. Why does this > guy have such a hard-on about having her die? Other > people are perfectly willing to take care of her. I > guess legally he speaks for her, not her parents. > -Peter > I have understood that he then gets her estate, which includes the bulk of the large medical insurance settlement (over 1-2 million I believe). Is this correct? -- I have not kept up with all the details. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh! Off_world is back. I thought I noticed a distinct > dimming of the discourse. > -Peter (aka snothead) > no one can go from zero to fracus like Off World. lurk > http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Infinite or Cosmic Mind (Mahat) 1
I second that! Welcome back, Rory! --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey Rory, > What a delight to hear from you. I miss you! > > > on 3/22/05 10:51 AM, Rory Goff at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> "Beyond the senses there are the objects, beyond > the objects there > > is > >> mind, beyond the mind there is the intellect, the > Infinite Mind > > (Mahat) > >> is beyond the > >> intellect. Beyond the Great (Mahat) is the > Avyakta (the silent, > >> unmanifest), beyond the > >> Avyakta there is the Purusha. Beyond the Purusha > there is nothing - > > > >> this is the > >> goal, the highest path" Katha Up. I.3.10-11. > > > > Thanks for posting this! > > > > Based roughly on the Katha Upanishad, we can > perhaps posit a general > > sketch of our divine anatomy as follows (the > standard caveats apply > > that this is only a map): > > > > Crown = Purusha (Cosmic Person; supreme Self; > Subtle Spirit) > > Brow = Avyakta (unmanifest; Middle Spirit) > > Throat = Mahat-Atman (great mind; individual Self; > Dense Spirit) > > Heart = Buddhi (intuition; Subtle Soul) > > Solar Plexus = Ahamkara (human self; Middle Soul) > > Navel = Manas (mind; Dense Soul) > > Sex = Indriyas (senses/sense objects; Subtle Body) > > Base = Karmendriyas (organs of action; Middle > Body) > > Feet = Prakriti (Divine Matter; Dense Body) > > > > From this sketch, we could posit a standard ascent > through 9 states > > of consciousness from Coma/Death (Feet), to Sleep > (Base; mineral > > consciousness), to Dream (Sex; vegetable > consciousness), to Waking > > (Navel; animal consciousness), to Transcendence > (Solar Plexus, human > > consciousness), to Cosmic Consciousness (Heart, > ancestor > > consciousness), to God Consciousness (Throat, > deva/gandharva > > consciousness), to Unity Consciousness (Brow, > Brahma consciousness) > > to Brahman (crown; Purusha). (Please note that > this map is distorted > > in that each of these states actually enlivens the > entire > > body/bodies.) > > > > However, as noted last year in conversations with > OMG, I also rather > > like a model of the higher states of consciousness > arising from the > > mutual attraction of Purusha (Spirit) and Prakriti > (Divine Matter), > > and their gradual approach and mergence through > the body's 9 chakras > > given above. From this model we could posit: > > > > Threshold or Transcendental Consciousness when we > become aware of > > Purusha as being somewhere "above" us (in the > crown) and > > Prakriti "below" us (at our feet); > > > > Birth or Cosmic Consciousness when Purusha moves > down into our Brow > > as the consciousness of the pleroma or unmanifest > Avyakta, and > > Prakriti moves up into our Base as divinely > enlivened and automatic > > organs of action; the absolute Purusha now > witnesses the relative > > Prakriti; > > > > Baptism or God Consciousness when Purusha moves > down through our > > Throat as the vibrant bliss of devic/gandharvic > Mahat-Atman and > > Prakriti moves up through our Sex as divine > enlivenment of the > > senses; > > > > Transfiguration or Unity Consciousness when > Purusha moves down > > through our Heart as the awakened pitris of Buddha > and Prakriti > > moves up through our Navel as divinely enlivened > Mind, culminating > > in perfect Unity when Purusha and Prakriti first > touch at Solar > > Plexus the human "I AM" or Ahamkara; > > > > Crucifixion or Brahman Consciousness when Purusha > and Prakriti cross > > into each other for the first time, with Purusha > reaching down into > > the Navel and Prakriti reaching up into the Heart; > thus > > extinguishing the need for the intermediary > Ahamkara; the small > > human ego and individual Soul now "dies," as there > is no longer > > complete distinction between Spirit and Matter, > absolute and > > relative, inner and outer, self and other; > everywhere there is only > > THAT; > > > > Mastery or Krishna Consciousness when Purusha > moves down through the > > Sex and Prakriti reaches up into the Throat, > enlivening the > > realization that the immense emptiful void or THAT > of Brahman can > > now collapse and manifest fully as and into the > Atman or bliss-point > > (s) of individuality; > > > > Ascension or Shiva Consciousness when Purusha > moves down through the > > Base and Prakriti reaches up through the Brow, > eventually resulting > > in the complete mergence of Purusha and Prakriti, > with each > > occupying the entire body: Absolute Spirit and > Relative Matter are > > one and the same. > > > > Again, this is just a map, a rough sketch. It > certainly doesn't > > account for everything or every experience. If any > of it fits, > > enjoy; if not, throw it out. No strings attached! > :-) > > > > Also, I am a little unclear on the Katha > Upanishad's placement of > > the objects "above" or beyond the senses -- this > seems to contradict > > the ge
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > What if you and your wife > are in a car accident together and she dies and you are in a coma. > Who decides what happens? This can cause alot of family problems. > You need a directive whether or not you think you do! YOU BAD BOY GO > TO YOUR ATTORNEY! I bet you can find one online. Good advice.(Your hallmark) lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Infinite or Cosmic Mind (Mahat) 1
I did not get it, and since I have yahoo email and it was emailed from a yahoo group, I think yahoo has some explaining to do. --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 22, 2005, at 10:20 PM, gullible fool wrote: > > > Vaj, your attachment did not come through. > > Oh yes it did ;-) > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
<<>> What a low and sleezy way to talk. I see Dr. Pete is still sleezing around town. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and consciousness
Oh! Off_world is back. I thought I noticed a distinct dimming of the discourse. -Peter (aka snothead) --- easyone200 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Or your ability to bring up irrelevant rat > neuron references.>>> > > > > > > Lol - Your the dickhead that brought the topic up. > Moron: > > > > Easyone:" much of her brain has been replaced > by spinal fluid > > which does not talk or have consciousness. When > was the > > last time a pint of plasma said HI THERE!? "" > > > > Now your ego can't handle the fact that a dish of > rat neurons can > > learn to fly a planeyes, and even take over > easyone's dumb > > planet. > > HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Yes it could happen easyone. > Get used to the > > idea. Unless you are a Creationist and not a > Darwinist. > > What does a rat neuron have to do with human > function. Are you saying her spinal fluid > can do that because a lab experiment with nat > neurons. Perhaps you need your spinal fluid > changed along with your oil. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 3/22/05 8:08:59 P.M. Central > Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > So, why not let the parents assume guardianship, > and care for her as > they want? Who exactly is she a burden to - that > she deserves to > die. Do you really believe her husband genuinely > cares for her? > > lurk > > > > I have to agree with this point of view. Obviously > Michael has abandoned her > and now has a common law wife with children, not > exactly your devoted loving > husband. Her family loves her and wants to take care > of her. Michael should > lose guardianship just on the basis that he has left > her for another woman. That's what I can't figure out either. Why does this guy have such a hard-on about having her die? Other people are perfectly willing to take care of her. I guess legally he speaks for her, not her parents. -Peter > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Infinite or Cosmic Mind (Mahat) 1
On Mar 22, 2005, at 10:20 PM, gullible fool wrote: > Vaj, your attachment did not come through. Oh yes it did ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The government used to be a reflection of the > > > > > > will of the people > > > > > > and by the people etc. but somewhere along the line > > > > > > it has become > > > > > > reversed. N. > > > > > > > > > > The government is still very, very much a reflection > > > > > of the will of the people. > > > > > > > > > > Those people are called lobbyists. > > > > > > > > Then, the 60-70% of the American people, who agree with the > husband > > > > in carrying out Terri's wish to die with dignity, should get > better > > > > lobbyists. > > > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > There is no right to die with dignity, only the right to life. > > + How come we don't hear of even serial killers being starved to > > death? > > Because serial killers get the electric chair or lethal injection. > The normal protocol for terminally ill people is discontinuing food > and water. + So this protocol is being applied to someone who is not terminally ill and, like I pointed out before, it's straight BS. N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Infinite or Cosmic Mind (Mahat) 1
Vaj, your attachment did not come through. --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > gag me. > > Attachment: GAG.zip > > NOTE: please make sure there is no one else in the > room when you open > this. > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 3/22/05 9:11:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Because serial killers get the electric chair or lethal injection. > The normal protocol for terminally ill people is discontinuing food > and water. > > > > > But Terri is not terminally ill. She is handicapped. Well she's dead now To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
In a message dated 3/22/05 9:11:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because serial killers get the electric chair or lethal injection. The normal protocol for terminally ill people is discontinuing food and water. But Terri is not terminally ill. She is handicapped. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Turiya, Tuiryatita (CC) and the Style of Yogic Sleep
I met Swami Rama in Detroit in 1968 at a weekend convention sponsored by a British organization called Spiritual Unity of Nations (SUN). It was a very interesting, ecclectic mix. I also met Marcus Bach, uncle (I think) of the Jonathan Livingston Seagull author and a spiritual maven in his own right. Swami Rama performed a demonstration wherein he had his head wrapped in a blanket while someone wrote a word on the blackboard. Swami correctly guessed the word, whereupon the audience burst into spontaneous applause. The applause appeared to put Swami into severe pain, such that he staggered and nearly fell down; the audience became quiet almost immediatley and Swami recovered his composure. I have one or two other recollections of Swami Rama, but they are not pertinent to this discussion. L B S --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [The Qualities of Yogic Sleep and Turiyatita (CC) -V.] > > This same experiment has been duplicated at MIU. > > fr. _Yoga & Psychotherapy_ by Sw. Rama > > Though this way of understanding dreamless sleep seems very foreign to > Western thinking, the Upanishads go even further. They describe a > fourth state. It is still more advanced than the third. It is what > results when the expanded consciousness [turiya, transcendental > consciousness] is brought back from dreamless sleep into dreaming and > waking consciousness. This is considered more evolved than the third > state [deep sleep] because it is the result of a massive reintegration. > The universality of deep sleep is carried over into the other levels of > consciousness. One maintains the all-encompassing awareness, the serene > and universal consciousness constantly. He maintains contact with the > brilliant light of cosmic awareness while also remaining in touch with > the usual levels of waking consciousness. This "fourth state" is called > turiya. It is the perspective from which all can be observed, > controlled and integrated. It brings total awareness of all the > compartments of the mind, all the lower levels of consciousness. > > For example, the dream state becomes totally accessible. A yogi who is > approaching this highest state of development can maintain > consciousness during the period that would normally be > dreaming. This explains how he might be able to practice continuous > deep sleep; how he would be conscious enough of the sleep cycle to > enter it where he wished and stay as long as he needed. It also implies > that one could maintain awareness of the external world even while in > the delta stages of sleep. If consciousness is truly integrated, then > from the vantage point of this higher level both the dreamless sleep > and the external world should be perceptible. This contradicts all our > customary ways of thinking about deep sleep, of course. It is normally > assumed that one is totally oblivious during this deepest level of the > sleep cycle, that he can be aware of nothing around him. > > In an experiment done with Swami Rama at the Menninger Foundation, > this usual conception of delta level sleep was found to be inadequate. > > "After producing theta waves, the Swami said he knew exactly how the > inner states of awareness were arranged in respect to the brain wave > frequency bands. Then he said, 'tomorrow I will consciously make delta > waves for you.' I replied that I doubted that he would succeed in that > because he would have to be sound asleep in order to produce delta. He > laughed at this and said that I would think that he was asleep but that > he would be conscious of everything that occured in the experimental > room. > > Before this test he asked how long I would like to have him remain in > the delta state. I said that 25 minutes would be alright and he said he > would bring himself out at that time. After about five minutes of > meditation, lying down with his eyes shut, the Swami began producing > delta waves, which we had never before seen in his record. In addition, > he snored gently. Alyce, without having told Swami that she was going > to say anything (she was in the experimental room observing him during > this test) then made a statement in a low voice, 'Today the sun is > shining, but tomorrow it may rain.' Every five minutes she made another > statement and after 25 minutes had passed the Swami roused himself and > said that someone with sharp heels had walked on the floor above and > made a click, click, click noise during the test, and a door had been > slammed twice somewhere in the building and that Mrs. Green had > said--and here he gave her statements verbatim, except for the last > half of the fourth sentence, of which he had the gist correct though > not the words. I was very much impressed because in listening from the > control room, I had heard her sentences, but could not remember them > all, and I was supposed to ha
[FairfieldLife] Re: Infinite or Cosmic Mind (Mahat) 1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > gag me. > > lurk Not really into B & D; maybe someone else will oblige you. R. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Or your ability to bring up irrelevant rat neuron references.>>> > > > > > > Lol - Your the dickhead that brought the topic up. Moron: > > > > Easyone:" much of her brain has been replaced by spinal fluid > > which does not talk or have consciousness. When was the > > last time a pint of plasma said HI THERE!? "" > > > > Now your ego can't handle the fact that a dish of rat neurons can > > learn to fly a planeyes, and even take over easyone's dumb > > planet. > > HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Yes it could happen easyone. Get used to the > > idea. Unless you are a Creationist and not a Darwinist. > > What does a rat neuron have to do with human function. Are you saying her spinal fluid > can do that because a lab experiment with nat neurons. Perhaps you need your spinal fluid > changed along with your oil.>>> I see I am talking to a Creationist not a rationalist. I guess that ends the conversation. Creationism is a form of blind faith. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > The government used to be a reflection of the > > > > > will of the people > > > > > and by the people etc. but somewhere along the line > > > > > it has become > > > > > reversed. N. > > > > > > > > The government is still very, very much a reflection > > > > of the will of the people. > > > > > > > > Those people are called lobbyists. > > > > > > Then, the 60-70% of the American people, who agree with the husband > > > in carrying out Terri's wish to die with dignity, should get better > > > lobbyists. > > > > > > Alex > > > > There is no right to die with dignity, only the right to life. > + How come we don't hear of even serial killers being starved to > death? Because serial killers get the electric chair or lethal injection. The normal protocol for terminally ill people is discontinuing food and water. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 3/22/05 7:08:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > + How come we don't hear of even serial killers being starved to > death? N. > > > > > Nelson paleease! That would be called cruel and unusual punishment. But > since Terri has not been found guilty of anything, it may be cruel and unusual, > but it definitely ain't punishment! + So when someone does something to you that is cruel and unusual you mean it's no problem? Seems people here get upset over the possibility that some joke might somehow be politically incorrect- what would they say if they were told to get used to not eating. N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
In a message dated 3/22/05 8:08:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, why not let the parents assume guardianship, and care for her as they want? Who exactly is she a burden to - that she deserves to die. Do you really believe her husband genuinely cares for her?lurk I have to agree with this point of view. Obviously Michael has abandoned her and now has a common law wife with children, not exactly your devoted loving husband. Her family loves her and wants to take care of her. Michael should lose guardianship just on the basis that he has left her for another woman. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > I don't think anyone really knows for sure all the details. Both > > > sides have potential alterior motives. That is a funny > > > line "deserves to die" now that line assumes that dying is a > > > negative thing. Ok? That is where I see a difference. I don't > > think > > > dying is negative. As I said before, Dying could be a great > relief > > > for her, an act of kindness. BUT NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE. It is > only > > > our opinions and how it brings out our BELIEFS and DESIRES. So > do > > > you have a living will? > > > > Yea, don't we spend like 1/3rd of health care spending on the last > 3 > > or 6 months of life. That doesn't make sense, and relates to your > > point of viewing death as something to avoid as long as possible. > > This seems different. We don't know for sure her condition. > > Evidently some prominient Dr.'s have indicated that she could > > progress. Like you say, plenty of cross motives. > > > > I don't have a living will. I pay $600.00/yr. for 500k term life > > insurance. On the other hand, my wife knows pretty well how I > feel > > on such matters. I am comfortable leaving it in her hands. I'd > tell > > her to go for the cash. > > > > lurk > > I just copied a "durable power of attorney" and "Advanced directive" > prepared for clients of mine by a prominant attorney and filled in > my stuff. These forms are explicit and appoint a health care > representative as well as an alternative health care representative. > It is good to have one notarized and keep it in a safe deposit > box.This one requires a notary AND wintesses. I have heard that some > hospitals have not honored decisions to go without life support > without an advanced directive, even if your wife has the legal > authority... I mean look to the Terri Schiavo case. It is especially > important if you are single or gay. Now Lurk, you assume that you > won't need one because you are married. What if you and your wife > are in a car accident together and she dies and you are in a coma. > Who decides what happens? This can cause alot of family problems. > You need a directive whether or not you think you do! YOU BAD BOY GO > TO YOUR ATTORNEY! I bet you can find one online. Don't put it in your safe deposit box, put it somewhere easy to find in your house and give a copy to your doc. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > Or your ability to bring up irrelevant rat neuron references.>>> > > > Lol - Your the dickhead that brought the topic up. Moron: > > Easyone:" much of her brain has been replaced by spinal fluid > which does not talk or have consciousness. When was the > last time a pint of plasma said HI THERE!? "" > > Now your ego can't handle the fact that a dish of rat neurons can > learn to fly a planeyes, and even take over easyone's dumb > planet. > HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Yes it could happen easyone. Get used to the > idea. Unless you are a Creationist and not a Darwinist. What does a rat neuron have to do with human function. Are you saying her spinal fluid can do that because a lab experiment with nat neurons. Perhaps you need your spinal fluid changed along with your oil. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > I don't think anyone really knows for sure all the details. Both > > sides have potential alterior motives. That is a funny > > line "deserves to die" now that line assumes that dying is a > > negative thing. Ok? That is where I see a difference. I don't > think > > dying is negative. As I said before, Dying could be a great relief > > for her, an act of kindness. BUT NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE. It is only > > our opinions and how it brings out our BELIEFS and DESIRES. So do > > you have a living will? > > Yea, don't we spend like 1/3rd of health care spending on the last 3 > or 6 months of life. That doesn't make sense, and relates to your > point of viewing death as something to avoid as long as possible. > This seems different. We don't know for sure her condition. > Evidently some prominient Dr.'s have indicated that she could > progress. Like you say, plenty of cross motives. > > I don't have a living will. I pay $600.00/yr. for 500k term life > insurance. On the other hand, my wife knows pretty well how I feel > on such matters. I am comfortable leaving it in her hands. I'd tell > her to go for the cash. > > lurk I just copied a "durable power of attorney" and "Advanced directive" prepared for clients of mine by a prominant attorney and filled in my stuff. These forms are explicit and appoint a health care representative as well as an alternative health care representative. It is good to have one notarized and keep it in a safe deposit box.This one requires a notary AND wintesses. I have heard that some hospitals have not honored decisions to go without life support without an advanced directive, even if your wife has the legal authority... I mean look to the Terri Schiavo case. It is especially important if you are single or gay. Now Lurk, you assume that you won't need one because you are married. What if you and your wife are in a car accident together and she dies and you are in a coma. Who decides what happens? This can cause alot of family problems. You need a directive whether or not you think you do! YOU BAD BOY GO TO YOUR ATTORNEY! I bet you can find one online. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
In a message dated 3/22/05 7:28:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: + Ok, I would bet that in being her, they would know that theproblem was brought on by her husband choking her and breaking somebones and so her resolve to live and see it all brought to light haskept her going all this time. I have expierienced two cases where people decided it was enoughand left the body which lasted only a few days before shutting down. If this girl wanted to die, she would be long gone now. N. Have to agree somewhat with you. Since a number of people have come forward that have heard Michael ask frustratingly "when is that bitch going to die?" To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
In a message dated 3/22/05 7:08:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: + How come we don't hear of even serial killers being starved todeath? N. Nelson paleease! That would be called cruel and unusual punishment. But since Terri has not been found guilty of anything, it may be cruel and unusual, but it definitely ain't punishment! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Worm Holes and Alternate Universes
Hello, everyone Recently, some scientists have argued about the existence of worm holes and alternate universes as a derivative of the String Theory in Physics. They have argued about theoretical possibilities to describe these phenomena. However, it appears to me that there may be a correlation of these phenomena to our personal lives. I am conjecturing that our dream consciousness is effectively an equivalent to an alternate universe. We are creating a universe within ourselves when we dream. This line of thinking is similar to the vedic myth that Vishnu created millions of universes as he breathed out when he was sleeping, and destroyed an equivalent amount of universes when he breathed in. Also, there have been claims in the vedic literature that the ancient rishis were able to visit other planets or lokas without physically leaving Earth. The equivalent wormhole in our consciousness is the gap between our sleeping and dreaming consciousness. Just thought I'd share these ideas with you ... Regards, John R. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think anyone really knows for sure all the details. Both > sides have potential alterior motives. That is a funny > line "deserves to die" now that line assumes that dying is a > negative thing. Ok? That is where I see a difference. I don't think > dying is negative. As I said before, Dying could be a great relief > for her, an act of kindness. BUT NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE. It is only > our opinions and how it brings out our BELIEFS and DESIRES. So do > you have a living will? Yea, don't we spend like 1/3rd of health care spending on the last 3 or 6 months of life. That doesn't make sense, and relates to your point of viewing death as something to avoid as long as possible. This seems different. We don't know for sure her condition. Evidently some prominient Dr.'s have indicated that she could progress. Like you say, plenty of cross motives. I don't have a living will. I pay $600.00/yr. for 500k term life insurance. On the other hand, my wife knows pretty well how I feel on such matters. I am comfortable leaving it in her hands. I'd tell her to go for the cash. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > snip > > > The truth is that > > no one really knows what she is experiences, even if her brain is > > gone. Maybe there is consiousness in the heart as some say. No one > > really can say for sure. > > So, why not let the parents assume guardianship, and care for her as > they want? Who exactly is she a burden to - that she deserves to > die. Do you really believe her husband genuinely cares for her? > > lurk Lurk, I don't think anyone really knows for sure all the details. Both sides have potential alterior motives. That is a funny line "deserves to die" now that line assumes that dying is a negative thing. Ok? That is where I see a difference. I don't think dying is negative. As I said before, Dying could be a great relief for her, an act of kindness. BUT NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE. It is only our opinions and how it brings out our BELIEFS and DESIRES. So do you have a living will? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
On Mar 22, 2005, at 9:05 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: > So, why not let the parents assume guardianship, and care for her as > they want? Who exactly is she a burden to - that she deserves to > die. Ultimately? The insurance company and the people who pay insurance premiums. You wanna see someone pull the plug real quick? Tell them they either have to 1. Pay for it themselves or 2. Keep the person at their own home. You'd be amazed how quick the story changes then... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > The truth is that > no one really knows what she is experiences, even if her brain is > gone. Maybe there is consiousness in the heart as some say. No one > really can say for sure. So, why not let the parents assume guardianship, and care for her as they want? Who exactly is she a burden to - that she deserves to die. Do you really believe her husband genuinely cares for her? lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > All I know is what little I¹ve read and the video clip they play > over and > > over again on the news. Looks to me like she has consciousness. > About as > > much as your average fish. > > Well that certainly is grounds to put her to death. She is such a > burden on, um well, on well, well she just deserves to die and thats > that. > > lurk If I had the choice to live like that for 19 years or die, I would chose death. It seems to me that alot of people are really afraid of death. I was glad for my Grandparents, when they died. It becomes a relief if they are suffering. I wouldn't want to live like Terri, no thanks. If she is truely in bliss consciousness, then I expect that leaving her body won't change that for the worse. The truth is that no one really knows what she is experiences, even if her brain is gone. Maybe there is consiousness in the heart as some say. No one really can say for sure. It sure brings alot of awareness to the idea of getting a "living will" so ya better go get one if you have an opinon on the matter. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Infinite or Cosmic Mind (Mahat) 1
> gag me. Attachment: GAG.zip NOTE: please make sure there is no one else in the room when you open this. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All I know is what little I¹ve read and the video clip they play over and > over again on the news. Looks to me like she has consciousness. About as > much as your average fish. Well that certainly is grounds to put her to death. She is such a burden on, um well, on well, well she just deserves to die and thats that. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Infinite or Cosmic Mind (Mahat) 1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Hey Rory, > > > What a delight to hear from you. I miss you! > > > > Thank you, Rick! It is always sweet to feel your loving > > appreciation -- the honey-flow of your Rik-Veda. But I am always > > with you, and happily I have been here in your Loka all along, > > albeit lately only in the Purusha-Avyakta realms :-) > > > > R. > > gag me. > > lurk + Like with a spoon? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Infinite or Cosmic Mind (Mahat) 1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey Rory, > > What a delight to hear from you. I miss you! > > Thank you, Rick! It is always sweet to feel your loving > appreciation -- the honey-flow of your Rik-Veda. But I am always > with you, and happily I have been here in your Loka all along, > albeit lately only in the Purusha-Avyakta realms :-) > > R. gag me. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: GM fails in UK
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > The interesting thing about this article (from The Independent) is > > that it shows > > > how different Europe and the US are on this issue. In the UK, the > > battle > > > against GM food has been almost won; in the US, it's already lost. > > > > > snip > > + They don't have the powerfull lobbies there that we do that are > > so well funded that they can get their agenda put in place even it is > > obviously harmfull- think tobbacco. > > When I was working in Ct, I saw containers being filled for > > shipment to Europe-- exporting cancer is big money. N. > > & > > Actually, their biggest foreign markets are Asia (China in particular) and South America. > > L B S + That was some years back and, Ibelieve it was going to England or Germany. This was cured leaves in crates put into forty foot shipping containers. At that time, it was about ten dollars a pound and an acre could produce about a ton of it- there was some serious money involved. N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rudra Joe- language request
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 22, 2005, at 3:12 PM, mark robert wrote: > > > I would like to ask Vaj to clean up his language a tad. FWIW Vaj, if > > you could limit your frequent use of Indian/Hindu/Vedic/Eastern/TMO > > terms somewhat that would be great. I mean of course I know what they > > all mean and I use them daily myself with family, friends, etc. > > (a-hem) but other less intelligent people don't appreciate them cause > > they don't know their definitions. AND there is no way to know in > > advance if they will be included. I mean your posts have enough > > Eastern wisdom to them that you don't need to add the intimidating > > lingo. If you can handle it, I mean, come on man, you could use a > > little less polish. > > Bhavakara Mark! If this is an attempt at humor..it's kinda funny. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: In or out redux
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 3/22/05 10:10 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I got a call too. I haven't called back yet. > > -Peter > > --- Patrick Gillam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > I bet I won't get one. I've been getting flak lately about my "negative > website" (this one). More flak than usual? What's the beef? lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Or your ability to bring up irrelevant rat neuron references.>>> Lol - Your the dickhead that brought the topic up. Moron: Easyone:" much of her brain has been replaced by spinal fluid which does not talk or have consciousness. When was the last time a pint of plasma said HI THERE!? "" Now your ego can't handle the fact that a dish of rat neurons can learn to fly a planeyes, and even take over easyone's dumb planet. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Yes it could happen easyone. Get used to the idea. Unless you are a Creationist and not a Darwinist. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 3/22/05 4:35 PM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> The right to life *includes* the right to die with dignity, > >> or else everybody would be on machines until their bodies > >> crumbled. > > > > Well, BushCo, the GOPers in Congress, Terri Schiavo's parents, and > > their supporters all disagree with you, because keeping Terri hooked > > up to artificial life support until her body crumbles is *exactly* > > what they are striving for. For crying out loud, the woman doesn't > > even have a cerebral cortex! It's a puddle of spinal fluid. Her > > higher brain functions are long gone. > > It would be interesting if those trying to keep her alive could experience > for ten minutes what it's like to be her, then return to their normal > states. I bet they'd all change their position on the matter. + Ok, I would bet that in being her, they would know that the problem was brought on by her husband choking her and breaking some bones and so her resolve to live and see it all brought to light has kept her going all this time. I have expierienced two cases where people decided it was enough and left the body which lasted only a few days before shutting down. If this girl wanted to die, she would be long gone now. N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahma Sutras, Sankara, Brahman -- a Vaishnava View
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "crukstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You know the sex thing can really be taken the wrong way, as in > something "bad". Everyone is always looking for an excuse to make > their strong desire for sexual enjoyment important for their > evolution. Like when studies showed that drinking wine can be good > for your health. I could almost hear a Bachanalian roar of approval > across the globe. All Percival and I would think others are saying > is that sex is fine but that sexual desire, the desire to be made > whole by another through the body and it's senses is an expression > of and the cause of duality. Have all the sex you want but sex lives > in the world of birth and death, and sooner or later, if one grows > weary of this gross body bound existence then sexual desire will > have to be transformed into the desire for self-knowledge. > > Nice Point. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A MARRIAGE OF THE FAITHS OF EAST & WEST
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/naghammadigospels/ Alchemy is the Christian's form of explaining Tantra. Alchemy exists in most the major religions, especially Tao, Hinduism (as Rasayana), and Islam. It did not begin in Europe until the European Christians were exposed to it during their crusades in the Holy Land, probably from the crusading Knights Templar, who were attached to the scholarly Benedictine Order. For centuries, most Alchemical writers were Catholic monks or priests. There were hundreds of Catholic priests who wrote about Alchemy, until Papal Bulls against Alchemy banned it, not because they thought it was untrue, but because they didn't want people making Alchemical Gold. Alchemical Gold can literally be made by a Siddha with the power of mind-over-matter, or it can be a symbol for the Reborn Body of the adept. Alchemy had a revival after the Protestant Reformation in Germany, Holland, and especially England. Henry VIII's last name was Tudor. His family coat of arms had a cross with a rose on it. Some two dozen or so English intellectuals, probably headed by a German physician, Dr. Michael Maier, from Frankfurt, founded the Brotherhood of the Rosie Cross around the time of Henry VIII, when he broke with the Catholic Church. Maier is considered the first Grand Master of The Brotherhood of the Rosie Cross, followed by Robert Fludd, then Thomas Vaughan (Eugenius Philaleths). Most alchemical treatises are so obscure you could read them all and still comprehend nothing of the "Art". This typical obscurity existed in the scriptures of all religions. Iran (Persia) was the center of the Sufi movement in Islam. Many allusions to Tantra can be found found in such works as the Rubaiyat of Omar Khaiyyam or the Masnavi of Jalalludin Rumi and many others. So, although there is no sign that Mohammed knew about it, many Moslems after him did. About the closest Mohammed came to it in the Koran, was when he often mentioned the Resurrection, which was to come. Well Mohammed, the Dwij or Genetic Rejuvenation is that Resurrection, and it is here now! It is the Second Coming of Christ, when you consider that the word "Christ" is derived from "Christen", meaning "anoint". It alludes to being "Born Again of Water and Holy Spirit", as Jesus called it. It does not refer to a man, "lest any man boast". It is an Inner Manifestation of Rejuvenation and the Siddhis or "Gifts of the Holy Spirit" (I Cor. 12). As such, there is no idolatry in our religion - nothing to worship and no rituals or mantras. That doesn't mean we should stop adoring Jesus, the unrivalled Tantric ParamJagatGuruji of this world and this age. That is not to say that he is not accompanied by many others, known or unknown, of such quality. Religions are but the "outside of the cup", and most of their scriptures will at least allude to Rasa Tantra, and the Rasa is inside the cup. Of course, whichever Scripture is the most literal about it, will be preferred by us. This Tantric "Secret Doctrine", as Helena Blavatsky calls it, is that Unifying Doctrine in the world's scriptures. It is a lamentation that the world's religions seek to increase their "territory" under the banner of different divisive doctrines, since they are blind to the Doctrine of establishing Truth by Scientific Method. We must define all the terms we are using in order to comprehend each other. And we must also define WHY we pursue a doctrine and what we hope to gain from it. Then we amass the evidence or Secondary Analysis, whereby we formulate a theory of what must be done (our Experimental Research Design), and what we theorize will happen, so we will know what to expect from this Experimental Practice. These results will determine the success or failure of an experiment. To be "Born again of Water and Spirit" sums up what we are trying to accomplish, with the "Gifts of the Holy Spirit" also. There are many more such siddhis than the ones listed by St. Paul. The most basic and common of Siddhis is Telepathy, including Clairvoyance and Clairaudience. This implies an opening of the Third Eye and of the Inner Ear to what is known in the Hatha Yoga Pradipika as the Anahat Nad. This also implies that the Soul or Atman can leave the body, going into the Etheric Plane or Akasha, and then re-enter the body, commonly called Astral Projection, Soul Travel or OOBE (out of the body experience). The Eckankar movement was rightfully dedicated to Soul Travel in the Atma Swarup or Soul Body, known as the Ka our Double in Egyptian hieroglyphics (sacred writing). Interestingly, Eckankar means "One Om Body". Om is written in Sanskrit calligrapy as a lingam joined to a vagina, accompanied by the sign of the sun and moon, which is now used as a sign of Islam. Sun and Moon are ancient symbols for man and woman. Recall that moon is Soma in Sanskrit. Sanskrit means sacred writing or Saint Script. I am a Christian minister and
[FairfieldLife] Turiya, Tuiryatita (CC) and the Style of Yogic Sleep
[The Qualities of Yogic Sleep and Turiyatita (CC) -V.] This same experiment has been duplicated at MIU. fr. _Yoga & Psychotherapy_ by Sw. Rama Though this way of understanding dreamless sleep seems very foreign to Western thinking, the Upanishads go even further. They describe a fourth state. It is still more advanced than the third. It is what results when the expanded consciousness [turiya, transcendental consciousness] is brought back from dreamless sleep into dreaming and waking consciousness. This is considered more evolved than the third state [deep sleep] because it is the result of a massive reintegration. The universality of deep sleep is carried over into the other levels of consciousness. One maintains the all-encompassing awareness, the serene and universal consciousness constantly. He maintains contact with the brilliant light of cosmic awareness while also remaining in touch with the usual levels of waking consciousness. This "fourth state" is called turiya. It is the perspective from which all can be observed, controlled and integrated. It brings total awareness of all the compartments of the mind, all the lower levels of consciousness. For example, the dream state becomes totally accessible. A yogi who is approaching this highest state of development can maintain consciousness during the period that would normally be dreaming. This explains how he might be able to practice continuous deep sleep; how he would be conscious enough of the sleep cycle to enter it where he wished and stay as long as he needed. It also implies that one could maintain awareness of the external world even while in the delta stages of sleep. If consciousness is truly integrated, then from the vantage point of this higher level both the dreamless sleep and the external world should be perceptible. This contradicts all our customary ways of thinking about deep sleep, of course. It is normally assumed that one is totally oblivious during this deepest level of the sleep cycle, that he can be aware of nothing around him. In an experiment done with Swami Rama at the Menninger Foundation, this usual conception of delta level sleep was found to be inadequate. "After producing theta waves, the Swami said he knew exactly how the inner states of awareness were arranged in respect to the brain wave frequency bands. Then he said, 'tomorrow I will consciously make delta waves for you.' I replied that I doubted that he would succeed in that because he would have to be sound asleep in order to produce delta. He laughed at this and said that I would think that he was asleep but that he would be conscious of everything that occured in the experimental room. Before this test he asked how long I would like to have him remain in the delta state. I said that 25 minutes would be alright and he said he would bring himself out at that time. After about five minutes of meditation, lying down with his eyes shut, the Swami began producing delta waves, which we had never before seen in his record. In addition, he snored gently. Alyce, without having told Swami that she was going to say anything (she was in the experimental room observing him during this test) then made a statement in a low voice, 'Today the sun is shining, but tomorrow it may rain.' Every five minutes she made another statement and after 25 minutes had passed the Swami roused himself and said that someone with sharp heels had walked on the floor above and made a click, click, click noise during the test, and a door had been slammed twice somewhere in the building and that Mrs. Green had said--and here he gave her statements verbatim, except for the last half of the fourth sentence, of which he had the gist correct though not the words. I was very much impressed because in listening from the control room, I had heard her sentences, but could not remember them all, and I was supposed to have been awake." Yoga nidra can be considered "semi-samadhi" in which the consciousness remains in an active state while the body, nervous system and brain remain completely relaxed. This might be thought of as voluntary, fully conscious sleep. The sleeper remains alert, observing himself sleep. It is said that those who know the techniques of yoga nidra, by slowly increasing the duration of their meditation have reached the point where they no longer need the kind of sleep that most people require. Advanced yogis consider spending eight hours in sleep a waste of time. Gandhi made a practice of determining before he went to bed exactly how long he would sleep--averaging about two and a half hours [!]. Napoleon Bonapart apparently had a somewhat similar ability. It is said that he often slept while on horseback, but that he was always fully alert the moment the occasion demanded it. This recalls the ancient Indian saying that a yogi should sleep "like a dog naps": fully alert, though completely relaxed. His sleep is under his control. Ordinary sleep is, by contrast, a state of deep inertia
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > The government used to be a reflection of the > > > > will of the people > > > > and by the people etc. but somewhere along the line > > > > it has become > > > > reversed. N. > > > > > > The government is still very, very much a reflection > > > of the will of the people. > > > > > > Those people are called lobbyists. > > > > Then, the 60-70% of the American people, who agree with the husband > > in carrying out Terri's wish to die with dignity, should get better > > lobbyists. > > > > Alex > > There is no right to die with dignity, only the right to life. + How come we don't hear of even serial killers being starved to death? N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Recently some scientists put rats neurons in a pitri dish, and > > > trained them to steer a flight simulator to stop the virtual > plane > > > going in to a mountain. > > > > > > Makes you wonder: > > No, it makes you wonder. > > God it was not a judgement of anything or anyone about anything. > You 're a bigger jerk than I thought you were. You are the TRULY > BRAIN DEAD. No limit on your small minded shrivelled up brain grumpy > old man comments. Or your ability to bring up irrelevant rat neuron references. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: GM fails in UK
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The interesting thing about this article (from The Independent) is > that it shows > > how different Europe and the US are on this issue. In the UK, the > battle > > against GM food has been almost won; in the US, it's already lost. > > > snip > + They don't have the powerfull lobbies there that we do that are > so well funded that they can get their agenda put in place even it is > obviously harmfull- think tobbacco. > When I was working in Ct, I saw containers being filled for > shipment to Europe-- exporting cancer is big money. N. & Actually, their biggest foreign markets are Asia (China in particular) and South America. L B S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Brahman and Turiya
Here are some points and "counterpoints" the current discussion of
Brahman and Turiya. These are not necessarily in chronological order.
I have added brackets to add points implied by the larger context,
but perhaps not clear due to editing the material down to briefer
form. I have added some Headings to try to organize the material, and
to summarize major POV's.
If I have mischaracterized a POV, apologies.
Please clarify. This is part of the process, stating what you think
the other said, clarification and refinement.
(Rick, perhaps Dana could comment? ]
Brahman Has Been Obtained -
Tom T wrote:
It is my experience and I know many
other long term practitioners of the Sidhis, as taught by MMY, that
Brahmin is and has been attained.
Tom T:
Brahmin looks out through these
eyes, talks through this mouth and animates this body. The cosmic
Self comes to the forefront and the small self is content to run the
relative life.
--- An Aspect of Obtaining Brahman Is An Experience of Infinite Mind ---
Tom T:
One lady in our group described it as follows: I was infinite mind and I
was looking at my finite mind and I knew that my finite mind was never
going to understand what had happened in a million years. That is the
paradox that is the hallmark of this understanding. Nothing has
changed and yet everything has changed. It is a one degree shift but
it is now an understanding from the vantage point of Self
understanding Self and little self is still where it has always been
wondering "What Happened?"
Tom T:
To my understanding witnessing is the primary means of knowing one is
in CC.
One witnesses all things happening from an undisturbed state. She did
not say she witnessed, she said quite clearly and maybe I didn't make
it clear that she knew she was infinite mind. Knowing is not
witnessing. Knowing is having them one in her understanding which
seems to fulfill your definition of Brahman above.
Tom T:
She was Infinite mind in which finite mind also existed as part
of her wholeness both being available and both making up the entire
wholeness she is. The understanding this experience is wholeness is a
major criteria of the reality of Brahman. Inside this wholeness
resides all creation. Tom T
-- It Sounds Like CC / Turiya, Not UC/BC ---
Vaj writes:
A "View"--your inner darshana, your POV shouldn't be thought of as a
meditational experience. It is your new horizon, your new world, your
cosmos and cosmology. It sounds to me as if you are describing CC, not
BC/UC.
Vaj writes:
It seems to me, I am guessing, this is latest fashion as forms of
neo-advaita become more widespread. People hear descriptions and
slowly convince themselves. Perhaps I'm wrong, maybe there are living
Buddhas living in Fairfield. But I have seen this before, this is not
new to me, people claiming CC, GC or UC/BC or beyond. I've "been around".
Vaj writes:
Again I think what you are describing is having gained certainty as to
the View, not ultimate realization.
Vaj:
samkhya and the yoga-sutras--and "awakening" a la the
yoga-sutra is a dualistic awakening. That is, it deals with
CC/turiyatita.
Vaj:
Knowing" will always presume a "Knower" and some medium in between.
But this could be a semantic misunderstanding on my part.
Vaj writes:
I can feel whole or wholeness but it does not seem like Grand
Unification to me (to use TM jargon).
Vaj:
Jivan Mukti is CC Videh Mukti is UC/BC
akasha_108 wrote:
Yes, I am having similar difficulty. Particularly when Tom describes
it [Brahamn Consciousness] as [simply] Consciousness experiencing
Consciousness.
[That is the characteristic of Turiya.]
Vaj:
The "Big E" in the samkhya and Yoga-sutra tradition refers to CC:
jivanmukta ("liberated while still alive")--not really the "Big E"
(UC/BC in your tradition). Akasha posted some nice views from
Vaishnavite POV's which highlight this issue nicely. And really
Shankara's commentary on the Badarayana Sutra really goes into this. If
you are following the CC/GC/UC model, grokking this text is important,
it would make a great companion on your path. You might like to also
check out other comments as these highlight views on CC and GC. It's
great stuff: a very sympathetic vibration for those on the path or
verifying the Fruit (their realization).
[above in response to Tom T:
Look at 52 through 55 and this is the only place it says that any
> sutra produces the Big E. All the other sutras are for practice and
> for the sidhi disclosed. The last sutra says Big E is the result of
> this sutra 52.]
Vaj responds
As I pointed out here before: if you look at the authentic levitation
practices which have lineages still in place, you can get an idea of
what's missing. It's quite a lot. True levitation practice can take
you right to the rainbow body. That's never going to happen unless the
rumors of Purushites going off to learn darkness practice are
true--and then only for the few.
VAj:
Understand
though, that samkhya and the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/22/05 4:58:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > It would be interesting if those trying to keep her alive could > > experience > > > > for ten minutes what it's like to be her, then return to their > > normal > > > > states. I bet they'd all change their position on the matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wait a second the big deal is that she has NO experience! > > Remember? She has > > > > no consciousness, no experience, no awareness. Lights out! > > Nobody at home,all > > > > movements are nothing but a bundle of reflexes. Michael said > > she died 16 > > > > years ago. One person says she is living a hell trapped in a > > body she has no > > > > control over and another says nobody's home! Which is it? > > > > > > If she has a liquified cortex she is not there. Unlike a traumatic > > injury like the guy who > > > "came out of it" after 19 years. Shaivo was deprived of oxygen and > > much of her brain has > > > been replaced by spinal fluid which does not talk or have > > consciousness. When was the > > > last time a pint of plasma said HI THERE!? The trauma guy was > > occasionally verbal during > > > the 19 years was not considered vegetative. Now he is "there" and > > his favorite subject is > > > asking his daughter for sex. > > > > > > > > Recently some scientists put rats neurons in a pitri dish, and > > trained them to steer a flight simulator to stop the virtual plane > > going in to a mountain. > > > > Makes you wonder: > No, it makes you wonder. God it was not a judgement of anything or anyone about anything. You 're a bigger jerk than I thought you were. You are the TRULY BRAIN DEAD. No limit on your small minded shrivelled up brain grumpy old man comments. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 3/22/05 4:58:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > It would be interesting if those trying to keep her alive could > experience > > > for ten minutes what it's like to be her, then return to their > normal > > > states. I bet they'd all change their position on the matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wait a second the big deal is that she has NO experience! > Remember? She has > > > no consciousness, no experience, no awareness. Lights out! > Nobody at home,all > > > movements are nothing but a bundle of reflexes. Michael said > she died 16 > > > years ago. One person says she is living a hell trapped in a > body she has no > > > control over and another says nobody's home! Which is it? > > > > If she has a liquified cortex she is not there. Unlike a traumatic > injury like the guy who > > "came out of it" after 19 years. Shaivo was deprived of oxygen and > much of her brain has > > been replaced by spinal fluid which does not talk or have > consciousness. When was the > > last time a pint of plasma said HI THERE!? The trauma guy was > occasionally verbal during > > the 19 years was not considered vegetative. Now he is "there" and > his favorite subject is > > asking his daughter for sex. > > > > Recently some scientists put rats neurons in a pitri dish, and > trained them to steer a flight simulator to stop the virtual plane > going in to a mountain. > > Makes you wonder: No, it makes you wonder. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > snip > The will of what people, the hypocrites in the congress? Most people are of the opinion > she should be allowed to die because of her wishes and the husbands as well as the dozen > courts and the doctors involved. + Most peoples opinion is controlled by the media and, to people who do their own thinking it is obviously BS. N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: GM fails in UK
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The interesting thing about this article (from The Independent) is that it shows > how different Europe and the US are on this issue. In the UK, the battle > against GM food has been almost won; in the US, it's already lost. > snip + They don't have the powerfull lobbies there that we do that are so well funded that they can get their agenda put in place even it is obviously harmfull- think tobbacco. When I was working in Ct, I saw containers being filled for shipment to Europe-- exporting cancer is big money. N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > In a message dated 3/22/05 4:58:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > It would be interesting if those trying to keep her alive could experience > > for ten minutes what it's like to be her, then return to their normal > > states. I bet they'd all change their position on the matter. > > > > > > > > > > Wait a second the big deal is that she has NO experience! Remember? She has > > no consciousness, no experience, no awareness. Lights out! Nobody at home,all > > movements are nothing but a bundle of reflexes. Michael said she died 16 > > years ago. One person says she is living a hell trapped in a body she has no > > control over and another says nobody's home! Which is it? > > If she has a liquified cortex she is not there. Unlike a traumatic injury like the guy who > "came out of it" after 19 years. Shaivo was deprived of oxygen and much of her brain has > been replaced by spinal fluid which does not talk or have consciousness. When was the > last time a pint of plasma said HI THERE!? The trauma guy was occasionally verbal during > the 19 years was not considered vegetative. Now he is "there" and his favorite subject is > asking his daughter for sex. Recently some scientists put rats neurons in a pitri dish, and trained them to steer a flight simulator to stop the virtual plane going in to a mountain. Makes you wonder: http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/technovel_neurons_ 041026.html Franken-Rodent: Rat Neurons in a Dish Play Flight Simulator By Bill Christensen posted: 26 October 2004 06:39 am ET ""In his excellent 1999 novel Starfish, science fiction writer Peter Watts wrote about "cultured brains on a slab" - a "smart gel - that could pilot a plane as well as a person. Now, University of Florida biomedical engineer Dr. Thomas DeMarse has created a "brain in a dish" that can interact with a computer flight simulation. The "brain" is a small puddle of 25,000 living neurons taken from a rat's brain and cultured in a glass dish. "It's essentially a dish with 60 electrodes arranged in a grid at the bottom," DeMarse said. "Over that we put the living cortical neurons from rats, which rapidly begin to reconnect themselves, forming a living neural network a brain." The multi-electrode grill is connected to a personal computer running a flight simulation program. The individual neurons are distributed randomly at the beginning of the experiment, and are not connected. The aircraft simulation of an F-22 fighter jet feeds data into the grid about flight conditions; whether the plane is flying straight and level or not. The neurons begin to organize themselves, forming connections to each other. The neurons analyze the data and respond by sending signals to the plane's controls. At first, the simulated plane drifts randomly. But the neural network slowly learns; currently, the brain can control the pitch and roll of the simulated craft in most weather conditions, including storms and hurricane-force winds. "My preciou ..." University of Florida researcher Thomas DeMarse holds a glass dish on October 12, 2004, containing a "brain" -- a living network of rat brain cells connected to electrodes. Credit: UofF DeMarse points out that, while computers have fast processing speeds, they can't approach the flexibility of the human brain. Certain kinds of computation, like pattern recognition, is difficult to program into a computer. Peter Watts points out this very same fact in his choice of living neurons as pilots: Humans had always been able to integrate 3-D spatial information better than the machines that kept trying to replace them... Until now, apparently... "" http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/technovel_neurons_ 041026.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions on 3/22/05 5:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/22/05 4:58:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It would be interesting if those trying to keep her alive could experience for ten minutes what it's like to be her, then return to their normal states. I bet they'd all change their position on the matter. Wait a second the big deal is that she has NO experience! Remember? She has no consciousness, no experience, no awareness. Lights out! Nobody at home,all movements are nothing but a bundle of reflexes. Michael said she died 16 years ago. One person says she is living a hell trapped in a body she has no control over and another says nobody's home! Which is it? All I know is what little I’ve read and the video clip they play over and over again on the news. Looks to me like she has consciousness. About as much as your average fish. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 3/22/05 4:58:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > It would be interesting if those trying to keep her alive could experience > for ten minutes what it's like to be her, then return to their normal > states. I bet they'd all change their position on the matter. > > > > > Wait a second the big deal is that she has NO experience! Remember? She has > no consciousness, no experience, no awareness. Lights out! Nobody at > home,all > movements are nothing but a bundle of reflexes. Michael said she died 16 > years ago. One person says she is living a hell trapped in a body she has no > control over and another says nobody's home! Which is it? If she has a liquified cortex she is not there. Unlike a traumatic injury like the guy who "came out of it" after 19 years. Shaivo was deprived of oxygen and much of her brain has been replaced by spinal fluid which does not talk or have consciousness. When was the last time a pint of plasma said HI THERE!? The trauma guy was occasionally verbal during the 19 years was not considered vegetative. Now he is "there" and his favorite subject is asking his daughter for sex. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
In a message dated 3/22/05 4:58:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It would be interesting if those trying to keep her alive could experiencefor ten minutes what it's like to be her, then return to their normalstates. I bet they'd all change their position on the matter. Wait a second the big deal is that she has NO experience! Remember? She has no consciousness, no experience, no awareness. Lights out! Nobody at home,all movements are nothing but a bundle of reflexes. Michael said she died 16 years ago. One person says she is living a hell trapped in a body she has no control over and another says nobody's home! Which is it? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sense perception (was Re: soma & New Vedic
On Mar 22, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > He is saying that. Yes I know. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
on 3/22/05 4:35 PM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> The right to life *includes* the right to die with dignity, >> or else everybody would be on machines until their bodies >> crumbled. > > Well, BushCo, the GOPers in Congress, Terri Schiavo's parents, and > their supporters all disagree with you, because keeping Terri hooked > up to artificial life support until her body crumbles is *exactly* > what they are striving for. For crying out loud, the woman doesn't > even have a cerebral cortex! It's a puddle of spinal fluid. Her > higher brain functions are long gone. It would be interesting if those trying to keep her alive could experience for ten minutes what it's like to be her, then return to their normal states. I bet they'd all change their position on the matter. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sense perception (was Re: soma & New Vedic
on 3/22/05 3:44 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Mar 22, 2005, at 4:00 PM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: > >> Everything I write is from my own experience sorry that didn't come >> through. > > OK. No I thought you might be saying you were in Unity, but I wasn't > certain. OK. > He is saying that. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilim Mantra
A second set of links, linking cannabis with ritual, sadhana and tantra. http://www.changetheclimate.org/news/sex.php Advanced Tantra marijuana rituals were intense, complex and difficult. Researchers have uncovered sacred texts describing cannabis rituals, but doubt that modern Tantra practitioners still engage in such activities. *** VAJ, do you know what this is referring to? Tantra cannabis rituals date back at least to 700 AD, and involved groups of "purified" male and female worshippers who engaged in fasting, chanting, prayer, ceremonial purifications, Kundalini yoga, and sexual union, subjecting body and spirit to excruciating and ecstatic ordeals. Concentration, consecration and transformation were the goals of such rituals, which were conducted in temples festooned with thousands of flowers, clouds of incense smoke, and flickering temple lamps. http://www.entheogen.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=3978.html In Plants of the Gods (2nd edition), it is stated that in "Tantric Buddism of the HImalayas of Tibet, Cannabis plays a very significant role in teh meditative ritual used to facilitate deep meditation and heighten awareness," (97-8). http://www.changetheclimate.org/news/sex.php After fasting and purging for at least 24 hours, Tantric celebrants ingested bhang, accompanied by deep abdominal breathing and visual imaging exercises. These exercises free blocked energy, tonify muscles and blood flow, and facilitate the power and onset of cannabis intoxication, which usually occurs within an hour of swallowing the spicy, potent libation. An anthropologist notes that cannabis religions recognize the metaphysical potential of the female cannabis plant. "Cultures with sacred cannabis use tend to be cultures which recognize the 'goddess'. That could mean mother earth, yin, or female beauty and virtues. People who bring marijuana inside themselves are engaging in a type of sexual union with the plant. It is a very sexual act to have a molecule of THC implant itself into your brain. "Since cannabis is associated with female dieties like Kali, we could say that when you use marijuana sexually, you are bringing a very special 'woman' into your bed. Make sure you're ready for that relationship." Similarly, in Marijuana Medicine by Ratsch, we find that "in Tantric Buddhism, psychoactive hemp drinks ocntinue to be used when medetating on the cosmic union of Buddha and his shakti as well as for the actual physical union between temple servants and priests (cf. Grieder 1990:152ff.). Here, the aphrodisiac hemp is regarded as the "food of Kundalini," the female subtle creative erngy that transforms sexual energy into a spiritual experience. THe drink is consumed 1.5 hours prior to meditation for the yab/yum ritual so that hte culmination of its effects occurs at the beginning of the spiritual or physical activity. When used in this manner, hemp increases meditative concentration, improves attentiveness to the ceremony, and stimulates sexuality (Aldrich 1977; Touw 1981)," (45-6). http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:vxGfLrKXiFkJ:www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/history/first12000/1ref.htm+bhang+OR+charas+OR+cannabis+%2Btantra&hl=en&client=firefox-a In his Dictionary of Assyrian Botany (p. 220), Campbell identified the Sumerian term a-zal-la and the Akkadian term azulla as cannabis on the basis of their similarities to the Syrian azal, meaning "to spin". Campbell also took the Assyrian word gurgurangu as another reference to cannabis because of its similarity to garganinj, the Persian word for cannabis. Building on these similarities, Campbell then identified the Sumerian drug gan-zi-gun-na as hashish [literally, a robber (gan) who spins away (gun-nu) the soul (zi)]. Campbell also felt that the similarity between gan-zi and the Hindu word qanjha also supports his arguments. However, in a later discussion of this issue (p. 229), he acknowledges the possibility that the Sumerian and Akkadian words he tentatively identified as hashish could just as likely be words denoting narcotics in general and opium specifically. A letter written around 680 B.C. by an unknown woman to the mother of the Assyrian king, Esarhaddon, mentions a substance called qu-nu-bu which also may have been cannabis, but again there is no certainty for this identification. Cf. L. Waterman, Royal Correspondence of the Assyrian Empire (Ann Arbor: University of Michigan Press, 1930), letter 368. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo and Bush contradictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The right to life *includes* the right to die with dignity, > or else everybody would be on machines until their bodies > crumbled. Well, BushCo, the GOPers in Congress, Terri Schiavo's parents, and their supporters all disagree with you, because keeping Terri hooked up to artificial life support until her body crumbles is *exactly* what they are striving for. For crying out loud, the woman doesn't even have a cerebral cortex! It's a puddle of spinal fluid. Her higher brain functions are long gone. This case is so disturbing to me that I actually called my lawyer's office today to have him prepare legal documents to ensure that selfish ghouls can't keep me hooked up to tubes and machines against my will. Petra already has the power of attorney to pull the plug, but I'm gonna toss in a living will for good measure. What a sad era we live in that we have to jump through legal hoops just to die with a little dignity. Alex > > On Mar 22, 2005, at 2:26 PM, anonymousff wrote: > > > There is no right to die with dignity, only the right > > to life. > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
