[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the link, cardemaister -Peter You are welcome! In the beginning of the interview not shown on the website, the host said: I just called you a guru. Do you define yourself as that?. The interesting part of R's answer was: I just consider myself as a child. I think I'm a child who refuses to grow up. --- cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.yle.fi/fst/bettinas/ Click on Titta pa videon next to Bettina's right knee! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S!
You are welcome! In the beginning of the interviewnot shown on the website, the host said: "I just calledyou a guru. Do you define yourself as that?". The interestingpart of R's answer was: "I just consider myself as a child.I think I'm a child who refuses to grow up." __I would be too if I lived in Malibu and drove a Mercedes and had followers who would give me everything including head at a moments whim. The idea that Ravi is a holy man is ludicrous. Put that man back in rags and give him a following of beggars and see if he's still a child or not then an old man. We're all children when we can snap and make people jump. If he's a child then the logical question is, whose tit is he sucking? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: BURGERDAMMERUNG
Thanks for speaking up Jane. New voices are fun and always appreciated. Lord knows many wish I would become the woodwork. Maybe if you aren't shy you can help fulfill their dreams by deepening the grain so that I don't stand out like a knot. Knots can be beautiful when they blend. I would be considered one of the biggest iconoclasts at this group. Or am I wrong. Anyone? But that shouldn't belie the fact that I have had to go through the whole deprogramming thing, and then the whole refinding myself thing, and then the whole I'm ok thing, as many, as you suggest, will also have to do. As you say, one feels much more free afterwards. It's hard to change the mindset from one of doing things for the Movement, to doing ones spirituality for oneself. But this is of the essence. We really are doing the spiritual thing for ourselves first primarily, and for others who benefit from our improved nature secondarily. As is obvious now, there really is no Movement to be doings for any longer anyway. This should provide freedom to those who previously were torn between their own desires and the Movement's rigors. When I left MIU after four years and doing a stint on THP my program was two hours long twice a day. As I couldn't fulfill that time committment I altogether quit meditating, and it took me a few years to realize that I didn't live to fulfill some meditation specification but instead the meditation existed because it was of benefit to me. This turnaround was entirely the start of a new way of thinking about things spiritual for myself. And this realization has helped me to this day. I call it starting where we are. We cannot provide for our customers what we cannot guarentee based on our own spiritual practice lest we become what we rebelled against in the first place.That is, institutionalized ignorance. I think for us TMers we became the fanatics we were because we had a taste of the divine, or we even sank into the divine, but then that taste was extrapolated into a palette of flavours of which we had no certain knowledge. Or the savour of the additonal flavors just was priced too high. Because we had chocolate we were told that peanut butter was right around the corner, and that in days to come they would be mixed. However, peanut butter never came, and people are being asked now to sell peanut butter cups in gold foils without ever having tried one. TM wasn't supposed to be a faith based thing. All the science was wasted becauseTMO is a faith based thing now. For what did Keith Wallace spend his whole life pragmatizing, now that the vital objectivity of science has given way to faith and religion? That's besides the pointsince if MMY had just gone the traditional religious route in the first place many would have been just as, if not more happy. It's ironic that MMY's longest adherents were those for whom he was a religious figure, and yet now even most of them can't take the crap any longer. The science fronting was part of that present scepticism as it now seems merely Machavellian. Yes, what a waste the Movement has turned out to be. In the sense that it sloughed off it's old skin so many times that we merely see the old wrinkles now and the original beauty is long gone. Only a few see the old beauty in the ugliness. The few for whom love is blind, or those who have been married so long that they couldn't even remotely hope to find a new love again in this lifetime. But the love has gone out of this relationship. It's possible that the love was unrequited right from the start. Unfortunately this wrinkled skin that we find telling, is the skin of Maharishi's own face. This skin is the fate of all institutions. We actually are lucky to have seen the true face through the initial beauty all in our lifetime. Other such aging beauties are America. Life on earth, and everything really. What goes up must come down, all that is built will fall to the ground. Empires come and then they go, so step right up and you guessed it, enjoy the show. I think you all should be applauded for being the parade and not standing on the sidelines. Here's to that great spirit! - Original Message - From: marwincornyarmand To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: BURGERDAMMERUNG Hey.I am new in this Group - but have followed you for some time with great pleasure. A lot of good discussionsI learned TM 45 years ago, became a Governor 30 years ago and was kicked out of TMO 3 years ago, because I refused to sign an agreement with the TMO, due to the prices and the focus on money all the time. So I have been following the TMO almost from the beginning, worked full-time close to NL. Been pretty much a Fanatic myself, devoted to MMY. After I was kicked out,I have been initiating openly outside the TMO sometimes for a little money sometimes
[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Friends, your Daily Inspiration - Wednesday - Unlived Lives
Title: Template May 04, 2005 - Unlived Lives No one lives his life. Disguised since childhood, haphazardly assembled from voices and fears and little pleasures, we come of age as masks. Somewhere there must be storehouses where all these lives are laid away like suits of armor or old carriages or clothes hanging limply on the walls. Maybe all paths lead there to the repository of unlived lives. Rainer Maria Rilke Rilke's Book of Hours Barrow Macy, tr. Life begins when we throw off this disguise called our self. Carson's Commentary Was this message forwarded to you? The Daily Inspiration e-mail is free. To Subscribe - Click Here Dear Bert and Christina, Wow, I am constantly awed by your beautiful picture selections and messages. Thanks! Loretta Thieme United States The Particular Photo Please feel free to forward The Daily Inspiration to a friend - and... don't forget to check out our new web site http://www.your-inner-peace.com Bert Christina Carson FuturePoint Communication 6868 Moores Mill Road Huntsville, Alabama 35811 USA 1-256-682-6511 e-mail: Bert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from The Daily Inspiration Mailing List - click here To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Resort to One Guru
Poland Spring, when asked about reading other spiritual literature, Maharishi said to read anything you want, but if you find yourself drifting too far from an understanding of his teaching, just read more of his stuff. Yeah. Lot of people bought that shit. Remember the rotten (literally) food? I had one of the cupolas on the top of the hotel. Remember the thunderstorms? My cupola had a lightning rod on the top that went down to roof level and stopped there, never grounding itself. Made for some interesting meds during the lightning storms. :-) I heard the place burned down. Lightening strike? I heard arson. Word has it the owners burned it down for the insurance. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The functions of the chakras
On May 3, 2005, at 11:19 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: This chakra stuff is just a waste of time. Like trying to dig to China with a spoon. Awaken Self and all this stuff takes care of itself. Just more mind candy. It's just subtle physiology. Big deal. -Peter the arrogant When awareness resides in the central channel, the chakras all collapse anyways. They're just doorways. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S!
On May 4, 2005, at 4:03 AM, Llundrub wrote: If he's a child then the logical question is, whose tit is he sucking? Mother Divine, who else?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: BURGERDAMMERUNG
On May 4, 2005, at 3:19 AM, marwincornyarmand wrote: That made a lot of noise from the TMO, with threats, lawyers, you name it. I won - the TMO lost. Where did the ruling go down? I'd be interested to see how the decision read. Welcome to FFL, it's great to have you here! -Vaj. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: BURGERDAMMERUNG
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for speaking up Jane. New voices are fun and always appreciated. Lord knows many wish I would become the woodwork. Many? I'd wager that the many is no more than a few. I would be considered one of the biggest iconoclasts at this group. Or am I wrong. Anyone? I think that's an accurate self-assessment. There are certainly others on the list who engage in smashing TM's icons, but it is usually done for the purpose of directing attention to a different icon. I call it starting where we are. I call it surrendering to who I am, as I am. And it has been wonderfully freeing. Equally freeing is traveling what I know to be the appropriate path, and not what some external authority has deemed appropriate on the basis that it has been arbitrarily proclaimed as being the highest. If one is wired to be more firmly in the body, there's not much point in forcing oneself into an escapist paradigm of body-denying, Brahmanist supremacy. Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: BURGERDAMMERUNG
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 4, 2005, at 3:19 AM, marwincornyarmand wrote: That made a lot of noise from the TMO, with threats, lawyers, you name it. I won - the TMO lost. Where did the ruling go down? I'd be interested to see how the decision read. The originating IP address looks up as europa.chello.no. How's your Norwegian? Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The functions of the chakras
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2005, at 11:19 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: This chakra stuff is just a waste of time. Like trying to dig to China with a spoon. Awaken Self and all this stuff takes care of itself. Just more mind candy. It's just subtle physiology. Big deal. -Peter the arrogant When awareness resides in the central channel, the chakras all collapse anyways. They're just doorways. Sometimes it seems that people make a spiritual fetish out of chakras. Then they're just another form of spiritual pornography. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: BURGERDAMMERUNG
Good for you Jane. It takes quite a bit of courage to break from the cultish mind set without replacing it with another cult. Do I know you? -Peter --- marwincornyarmand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey. I am new in this Group - but have followed you for some time with great pleasure. A lot of good discussions I learned TM 45 years ago, became a Governor 30 years ago and was kicked out of TMO 3 years ago, because I refused to sign an agreement with the TMO, due to the prices and the focus on money all the time. So I have been following the TMO almost from the beginning, worked full-time close to NL. Been pretty much a Fanatic myself, devoted to MMY. After I was kicked out,I have been initiating openly outside the TMO sometimes for a little money sometimes for free. That made a lot of noise from the TMO, with threats, lawyers, you name it. I won - the TMO lost. I am very happy that I am outside the TMO. I have great respect for the Veda, Guru Dev and all Real Spiritual Masters, but I do not want to be associated with the crazy TMO any more. I am practicing TM and some other techniques through the day, and feel happy for the first time in many years, free to develop in my natural way. I do not practice the TM-Sidhi-techniques any more. They gave me a strong headache after the program and loss of energy. It takes a lot of courage to let go, but it is worth it. I see a lot of Governors that are really unhappy, with a lot of problems with health, money, fear. Even worse now, after the recert. thing. JGD Jane To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] BURGERDAMMERUNG
The first time I made-out with a girl was when I was 15 and at a dance at that church. It shall always be held dear to me! -Peter --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/3/05 10:21 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pink place right? On the Post road. My older sister, Judy, worked there too. Remember they had the headshop/clothing store downstairs? -Peter Yup. I believe it was called The Ice Cream Parlor or something like that. Right across from the Congregational Church. Peter, Paul and Mary played there one night too. I served Mary some ice cream. We could eat all the ice cream we wanted while we worked so we were on a major sugar rush by the end of each evening. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGERDAMMERUNG
Through the years, the TMO has won over people through threats. Only a few people have stand up against the TMO for several reasons, no money for lawyers, bad karma, if you fight against your Guru, something bad will happen etc. The TMO started the fight against me, first with letters that I answered, then telling me that I no longer was allowed to initiate, then commanding me to cancel my personal web-side where I was marketing TM, all costs paid by me personal, commanding me to not use the name Transcendental Meditation, give back the Puja-set to the TMO etc. I refused everything. Then came several letters from the lawyers in the TMO threatening to drag me to the Court. At that time I found my own lawyer that stand up for me. All the agreements we as Governors through years have signed, are hardly valuable any more. The time has changed, the TMO has changed and the agreements have not changed. In my Country people is protected by the Law regarding agreements who is not up-to-date, signed more or less by force. If you don't sign, you are not allowed to do this or that after you paid a lot of money for a course. It is easy to prove that the word transcendental is a description of a state in consciousness. The Mantras is universal as Bija Mantras. So the result was that the TMO did not drag me to the Courtroom and I am initiating as before. The only thing I did was to follow step by step the lawyers in the TMO, just answering. During that time I had Nature support at all levels. So I feel now, that it was a lucky day, when the TMO did not want me around anymore. Grateful for that. Otherwise I still would have been in the middle of the frustration and stress that is not healthy. JGD Jane To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: RE:BURGERDAMMERUNG
Good for you, Jane. More power to you. Stick to your guns. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marwincornyarmand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Through the years, the TMO has won over people through threats. Only a few people have stand up against the TMO for several reasons, no money for lawyers, bad karma, if you fight against your Guru, something bad will happen etc. The TMO started the fight against me, first with letters that I answered, then telling me that I no longer was allowed to initiate, then commanding me to cancel my personal web-side where I was marketing TM, all costs paid by me personal, commanding me to not use the name Transcendental Meditation, give back the Puja-set to the TMO etc. I refused everything. Then came several letters from the lawyers in the TMO threatening to drag me to the Court. At that time I found my own lawyer that stand up for me. All the agreements we as Governors through years have signed, are hardly valuable any more. The time has changed, the TMO has changed and the agreements have not changed. In my Country people is protected by the Law regarding agreements who is not up-to-date, signed more or less by force. If you don't sign, you are not allowed to do this or that after you paid a lot of money for a course. It is easy to prove that the word transcendental is a description of a state in consciousness. The Mantras is universal as Bija Mantras. So the result was that the TMO did not drag me to the Courtroom and I am initiating as before. The only thing I did was to follow step by step the lawyers in the TMO, just answering. During that time I had Nature support at all levels. So I feel now, that it was a lucky day, when the TMO did not want me around anymore. Grateful for that. Otherwise I still would have been in the middle of the frustration and stress that is not healthy. JGD Jane To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The report we've been waiting for
That sounds pretty much like **everyone** on purusha, if they were honest. On May 3, 2005, at 1:49 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: That reminds me of a Purusha friend of mine (who will remain nameless for obvious reasons) who, unlike Mdixon's comment which is obviously tongue-in-cheeck, is firmly convinced that proof of the best karma is being reborn as a White, male American.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: BURGERDAMMERUNG
Good to hear from you Jane. What country or part of the US are you in, if you don't mind my asking. Do we know each other? on 5/4/05 2:19 AM, marwincornyarmand at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey. I am new in this Group - but have followed you for some time with great pleasure. A lot of good discussions I learned TM 45 years ago, became a Governor 30 years ago and was kicked out of TMO 3 years ago, because I refused to sign an agreement with the TMO, due to the prices and the focus on money all the time. So I have been following the TMO almost from the beginning, worked full-time close to NL. Been pretty much a Fanatic myself, devoted to MMY. After I was kicked out,I have been initiating openly outside the TMO sometimes for a little money sometimes for free. That made a lot of noise from the TMO, with threats, lawyers, you name it. I won - the TMO lost. I am very happy that I am outside the TMO. I have great respect for the Veda, Guru Dev and all Real Spiritual Masters, but I do not want to be associated with the crazy TMO any more. I am practicing TM and some other techniques through the day, and feel happy for the first time in many years, free to develop in my natural way. I do not practice the TM-Sidhi-techniques any more. They gave me a strong headache after the program and loss of energy. It takes a lot of courage to let go, but it is worth it. I see a lot of Governors that are really unhappy, with a lot of problems with health, money, fear. Even worse now, after the recert. thing. JGD Jane To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S!
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S! on 5/4/05 3:03 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are welcome! In the beginning of the interview not shown on the website, the host said: I just called you a guru. Do you define yourself as that?. The interesting part of R's answer was: I just consider myself as a child. I think I'm a child who refuses to grow up. __I would be too if I lived in Malibu and drove a Mercedes and had followers who would give me everything including head at a moments whim. Any substance to these allegations? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] RE: BURGER
Hey Peter. I am not used to answer the E-mails - so I do not know if I am doing this right. I do not know if we know eachother - I am from North- Europa. Maybe we have met in some courses. Jane To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S!
I already told you I don't like him.He didn't like me. Yes, he lives in Malibu and drives a mercedes. Didn't you know that? I mean, he's presently much less innocuous than Maharishi but that's who he takes his cue from, so don't expect real religion beyond the religion of his own personality to be there if the mirror is held up. And if religion is what your seeking then consider that were it possible it's considerable that Maharishi's neovedism would be the same in the end game. I have many meditation techniques that I made up, many of which are much more inspired and well reasoned than mere hyperventilation and TM redux. Don't you know that I re-cognized the religion of Bhagalamukhi the Crane Faced Mahavidya? The point is, that if he looked like me you would just think he was another punk ass bitch. Instead, because he's a Hindu with shiny black hair and twinkling eyes and neti neti talk patterns and white robes he fits the mold of guru and world savior for you. He's much more materialistic than I will ever be. No, I don't know who's blowing him. Do you honestly think he would turn some good head down from some babe while he's driving his Mercedes through Pac Pal? Why? He took no vows of anything afaik. I mean, who cares? I don't. What's the difference? Want to find the truth. Offer him a handjob next time you pick him up from the airport. If he says no, then just say, just kidding, and if he says yes then just say just kidding. If a truth seeker wants truth then they need the balls for it. Too scared to lift the dhoti to see what it reveals? To scared to dash the idol to face nihilism? No other human besides yourself is as ready to make the proper moral decisions that confront you. So no other human guide is necessary. I just don't get the need to place other people on pedestals. They all need to come down. Even Sri Shankara was a complete asshole and misogynist. He wrote great Hindu copy while his entourage pressed the poor and downtrodden further under foot. A poor person giving a dime too another is a much greater act of sacrifice than an organization with millions giving millions for tax write offs. Arg, the truth is so obvious. You had just said how hard it is to get rid of one false guru without setting another one up. Well, I guess you know how hard it is. - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S! --- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are welcome! In the beginning of the interview not shown on the website, the host said: "I just called you a guru. Do you define yourself as that?". The interesting part of R's answer was: "I just consider myself as a child. I think I'm a child who refuses to grow up." __I would be too if I lived in Malibu and drove a Mercedes and had followers who would give me everything including head at a moments whim.Rj, are you being literal here? The idea that Ravi is a holy man is ludicrous.And why is that? Is that an experience you have or aconcept? Put that man back in rags and give him a following of beggars and see if he's still a child or not then an old man. We're all children when we can snap and make people jump.Again, is that your direct experience with him or aprojection?If he's a child then the logical question is, whose tit is he sucking?Alrerady answered, MD's.-Peter__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] BURGERDAMMERUNG
The first time I made out I was ten and asked my best friends sister if she wanted to smootch. A day later she was riding on the back of my bicycle on the banana seat and I tried to show off my riding up a mountain of rocks near some road work. She - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] BURGERDAMMERUNG The first time I made-out with a girl was when I was15 and at a dance at that church. It shall always beheld dear to me!-Peter--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/3/05 10:21 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pink place right? On the Post road. My older sister, Judy, worked there too. Remember they had the headshop/clothing store downstairs? -Peter Yup. I believe it was called "The Ice Cream Parlor" or something like that. Right across from the Congregational Church. Peter, Paul and Mary played there one night too. I served Mary some ice cream. We could eat all the ice cream we wanted while we worked so we were on a major sugar rush by the end of each evening. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] BURGERDAMMERUNG
near some roadwork, and cracked her head open. She got pneumonia and her parents forbid her or her brother from ever seeing me again. - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] BURGERDAMMERUNG The first time I made-out with a girl was when I was15 and at a dance at that church. It shall always beheld dear to me!-Peter--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/3/05 10:21 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pink place right? On the Post road. My older sister, Judy, worked there too. Remember they had the headshop/clothing store downstairs? -Peter Yup. I believe it was called "The Ice Cream Parlor" or something like that. Right across from the Congregational Church. Peter, Paul and Mary played there one night too. I served Mary some ice cream. We could eat all the ice cream we wanted while we worked so we were on a major sugar rush by the end of each evening. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S!
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S! The only shred of direct evidence in all this is that you and he looked at each other for a few seconds and you didnt like him and perceived that he didn't like you. I dont know if he lives in Malibu and drives a Mercedes, but if he does, its rather presumptuous to assume that young babes are giving him blow jobs. Seems like you're concocting all this based on your own emotions. (keep in mind that Ive only seen him once, from afar, when he had short hair and was one of Ms pundits). But Im defending him because as Bob Brigante well knows, I like truth and fairness. Its a moron thing. on 5/4/05 8:04 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already told you I don't like him.He didn't like me. Yes, he lives in Malibu and drives a mercedes. Didn't you know that? I mean, he's presently much less innocuous than Maharishi but that's who he takes his cue from, so don't expect real religion beyond the religion of his own personality to be there if the mirror is held up. And if religion is what your seeking then consider that were it possible it's considerable that Maharishi's neovedism would be the same in the end game. I have many meditation techniques that I made up, many of which are much more inspired and well reasoned than mere hyperventilation and TM redux. Don't you know that I re-cognized the religion of Bhagalamukhi the Crane Faced Mahavidya? The point is, that if he looked like me you would just think he was another punk ass bitch. Instead, because he's a Hindu with shiny black hair and twinkling eyes and neti neti talk patterns and white robes he fits the mold of guru and world savior for you. He's much more materialistic than I will ever be. No, I don't know who's blowing him. Do you honestly think he would turn some good head down from some babe while he's driving his Mercedes through Pac Pal? Why? He took no vows of anything afaik. I mean, who cares? I don't. What's the difference? Want to find the truth. Offer him a handjob next time you pick him up from the airport. If he says no, then just say, just kidding, and if he says yes then just say just kidding. If a truth seeker wants truth then they need the balls for it. Too scared to lift the dhoti to see what it reveals? To scared to dash the idol to face nihilism? No other human besides yourself is as ready to make the proper moral decisions that confront you. So no other human guide is necessary. I just don't get the need to place other people on pedestals. They all need to come down. Even Sri Shankara was a complete asshole and misogynist. He wrote great Hindu copy while his entourage pressed the poor and downtrodden further under foot. A poor person giving a dime too another is a much greater act of sacrifice than an organization with millions giving millions for tax write offs. Arg, the truth is so obvious. You had just said how hard it is to get rid of one false guru without setting another one up. Well, I guess you know how hard it is. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Good for you, Jane. More power to you. Stick to your guns. Thank you! The fight is over - now I just enjoy. Jane To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] RE: BURGERDAMMERUNG
From: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] rick_archer Send IM Send Email Good to hear from you Jane. What country or part of the US are you in, if you don't mind my asking. Do we know each other Hey. I do not think we know eachother - because I am from North-Europa, maybe we hav met in some courses. I do not know. Jane To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S!
--- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already told you I don't like him.He didn't like me. Yes, he lives in Malibu and drives a mercedes. Didn't you know that? You're getting Sri Sri Ravi Shankar confused with someone else because he does not live in Malibu! I still can't take you seriously RJ! You know he doesn't live in Malibu! -Peter I mean, he's presently much less innocuous than Maharishi but that's who he takes his cue from, so don't expect real religion beyond the religion of his own personality to be there if the mirror is held up. And if religion is what your seeking then consider that were it possible it's considerable that Maharishi's neovedism would be the same in the end game. I have many meditation techniques that I made up, many of which are much more inspired and well reasoned than mere hyperventilation and TM redux. Don't you know that I re-cognized the religion of Bhagalamukhi the Crane Faced Mahavidya? The point is, that if he looked like me you would just think he was another punk ass bitch. Instead, because he's a Hindu with shiny black hair and twinkling eyes and neti neti talk patterns and white robes he fits the mold of guru and world savior for you. He's much more materialistic than I will ever be. No, I don't know who's blowing him. Do you honestly think he would turn some good head down from some babe while he's driving his Mercedes through Pac Pal? Why? He took no vows of anything afaik. I mean, who cares? I don't. What's the difference? Want to find the truth. Offer him a handjob next time you pick him up from the airport. If he says no, then just say, just kidding, and if he says yes then just say just kidding. If a truth seeker wants truth then they need the balls for it. Too scared to lift the dhoti to see what it reveals? To scared to dash the idol to face nihilism? No other human besides yourself is as ready to make the proper moral decisions that confront you. So no other human guide is necessary. I just don't get the need to place other people on pedestals. They all need to come down. Even Sri Shankara was a complete asshole and misogynist. He wrote great Hindu copy while his entourage pressed the poor and downtrodden further under foot. A poor person giving a dime too another is a much greater act of sacrifice than an organization with millions giving millions for tax write offs. Arg, the truth is so obvious. You had just said how hard it is to get rid of one false guru without setting another one up. Well, I guess you know how hard it is. - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S! --- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are welcome! In the beginning of the interview not shown on the website, the host said: I just called you a guru. Do you define yourself as that?. The interesting part of R's answer was: I just consider myself as a child. I think I'm a child who refuses to grow up. __I would be too if I lived in Malibu and drove a Mercedes and had followers who would give me everything including head at a moments whim. Rj, are you being literal here? The idea that Ravi is a holy man is ludicrous. And why is that? Is that an experience you have or a concept? Put that man back in rags and give him a following of beggars and see if he's still a child or not then an old man. We're all children when we can snap and make people jump. Again, is that your direct experience with him or a projection? If he's a child then the logical question is, whose tit is he sucking? Alrerady answered, MD's. -Peter __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:
Re: [FairfieldLife] BURGERDAMMERUNG
51 --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/4/05 7:08 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first time I made-out with a girl was when I was 15 and at a dance at that church. It shall always be held dear to me! -Peter My band played there once or twice, but if you were 15, it probably wouldn't have been Goodhill. You're not 5 years younger than me, are you? I'm 55. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: BURGER
Probably not, but for some reason you sound familiar. What do you charge for TM? -Peter --- marwincornyarmand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Peter. I am not used to answer the E-mails - so I do not know if I am doing this right. I do not know if we know eachother - I am from North- Europa. Maybe we have met in some courses. Jane To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S!
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S! - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S! on 5/4/05 3:03 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are welcome! In the beginning of the interviewnot shown on the website, the host said: "I just calledyou a guru. Do you define yourself as that?". The interestingpart of R's answer was: "I just consider myself as a child.I think I'm a child who refuses to grow up."__I would be too if I lived in Malibu and drove a Mercedes and had followers who would give me everything including head at a moments whim. Any substance to these allegations? -I just farted, so probably did Ravi. To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only shred of direct evidence in all this is that you and he looked at each other for a few seconds and you didn¹t like him and perceived that he didn't like you. I don¹t know if he lives in Malibu and drives a Mercedes, but if he does, it¹s rather presumptuous to assume that young babes are giving him blow jobs. Seems like you're concocting all this based on your own emotions. (keep in mind that I¹ve only seen him once, from afar, when he had short hair and was one of M¹s pundits). But I¹m defending him because as Bob Brigante well knows, I like truth and fairness. It¹s a moron thing. I attended a couple of his lectures/QA sessions when he was traveling in S. Florida back in '93 or '94. My only impression is that his answers struck me as pseudo-profound-sounding non sequiturs mixed in with lots of giggling, but I'm fully willing to allow that that was white hot Brahman being interpreted on the level of an unrepentant kaliyugan. What impressed me most was the greater heart value of his org and followers, which is what convinced me to take his course. As for Kirk's essay, I found it to be an extremely entertaining read. I love the raw, unrestrained passion, even if it's not entirely non-fiction. Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S!
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S! Did you say its presumptious to think he's getting blowjobs if he lives in Malibu and driving a Mercedes. bababhhahhahhhaaa - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S! The only shred of direct evidence in all this is that you and he looked at each other for a few seconds and you didnt like him and perceived that he didn't like you. I dont know if he lives in Malibu and drives a Mercedes, but if he does, its rather presumptuous to assume that young babes are giving him blow jobs. Seems like you're concocting all this based on your own emotions. (keep in mind that Ive only seen him once, from afar, when he had short hair and was one of Ms pundits). But Im defending him because as Bob Brigante well knows, I like truth and fairness. Its a moron thing.on 5/4/05 8:04 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already told you I don't like him.He didn't like me. Yes, he lives in Malibu and drives a mercedes. Didn't you know that? I mean, he's presently much less innocuous than Maharishi but that's who he takes his cue from, so don't expect real religion beyond the religion of his own personality to be there if the mirror is held up. And if religion is what your seeking then consider that were it possible it's considerable that Maharishi's neovedism would be the same in the end game. I have many meditation techniques that I made up, many of which are much more inspired and well reasoned than mere hyperventilation and TM redux. Don't you know that I re-cognized the religion of Bhagalamukhi the Crane Faced Mahavidya? The point is, that if he looked like me you would just think he was another punk ass bitch. Instead, because he's a Hindu with shiny black hair and twinkling eyes and neti neti talk patterns and white robes he fits the mold of guru and world savior for you. He's much more materialistic than I will ever be.No, I don't know who's blowing him. Do you honestly think he would turn some good head down from some babe while he's driving his Mercedes through Pac Pal? Why? He took no vows of anything afaik. I mean, who cares? I don't. What's the difference? Want to find the truth. Offer him a handjob next time you pick him up from the airport. If he says no, then just say, just kidding, and if he says yes then just say just kidding. If a truth seeker wants truth then they need the balls for it. Too scared to lift the dhoti to see what it reveals? To scared to dash the idol to face nihilism? No other human besides yourself is as ready to make the proper moral decisions that confront you. So no other human guide is necessary. I just don't get the need to place other people on pedestals. They all need to come down. Even Sri Shankara was a complete asshole and misogynist. He wrote great Hindu copy while his entourage pressed the poor and downtrodden further under foot. A poor person giving a dime too another is a much greater act of sacrifice than an organization with millions giving millions for tax write offs. Arg, the truth is so obvious. You had just said how hard it is to get rid of one false guru without setting another one up. Well, I guess you know how hard it is. To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] BURGERDAMMERUNG
on 5/4/05 8:43 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 51 So I was 19. Could have been us. Why were you making out and not paying attention to the music? --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/4/05 7:08 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first time I made-out with a girl was when I was 15 and at a dance at that church. It shall always be held dear to me! -Peter My band played there once or twice, but if you were 15, it probably wouldn't have been Goodhill. You're not 5 years younger than me, are you? I'm 55. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S!
On May 4, 2005, at 9:52 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: As for Kirk's essay, I found it to be an extremely entertaining read. I love the raw, unrestrained passion, even if it's not entirely non-fiction. Kirk's koans from my favorite comic-kazee! Nothing like a monkey-wrench in the gears to make you wake up laughing... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S!
So where does he live? What does he drive? What are his business holdings? What are his sexual preferences. Don't know? Then how can you idolize him? It doesn't matter what I say, it's what you belive that's important because you're his follower. I'm sure not. If you know nothing about his then what exactly are you following? A feather? Does he know your name? - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S! --- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already told you I don't like him.He didn't like me. Yes, he lives in Malibu and drives a mercedes. Didn't you know that?You're getting Sri Sri Ravi Shankar confused withsomeone else because he does not live in Malibu! Istill can't take you seriously RJ! You know he doesn'tlive in Malibu!-Peter I mean, he's presently much less innocuous than Maharishi but that's who he takes his cue from, so don't expect real religion beyond the religion of his own personality to be there if the mirror is held up. And if religion is what your seeking then consider that were it possible it's considerable that Maharishi's neovedism would be the same in the end game. I have many meditation techniques that I made up, many of which are much more inspired and well reasoned than mere hyperventilation and TM redux. Don't you know that I re-cognized the religion of Bhagalamukhi the Crane Faced Mahavidya? The point is, that if he looked like me you would just think he was another punk ass bitch. Instead, because he's a Hindu with shiny black hair and twinkling eyes and neti neti talk patterns and white robes he fits the mold of guru and world savior for you. He's much more materialistic than I will ever be. No, I don't know who's blowing him. Do you honestly think he would turn some good head down from some babe while he's driving his Mercedes through Pac Pal? Why? He took no vows of anything afaik. I mean, who cares? I don't. What's the difference? Want to find the truth. Offer him a handjob next time you pick him up from the airport. If he says no, then just say, just kidding, and if he says yes then just say just kidding. If a truth seeker wants truth then they need the balls for it. Too scared to lift the dhoti to see what it reveals? To scared to dash the idol to face nihilism? No other human besides yourself is as ready to make the proper moral decisions that confront you. So no other human guide is necessary. I just don't get the need to place other people on pedestals. They all need to come down. Even Sri Shankara was a complete asshole and misogynist. He wrote great Hindu copy while his entourage pressed the poor and downtrodden further under foot. A poor person giving a dime too another is a much greater act of sacrifice than an organization with millions giving millions for tax write offs. Arg, the truth is so obvious. You had just said how hard it is to get rid of one false guru without setting another one up. Well, I guess you know how hard it is. - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S! --- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You are welcome! In the beginning of the interview not shown on the website, the host said: "I just called you a guru. Do you define yourself as that?". The interesting part of R's answer was: "I just consider myself as a child. I think I'm a child who refuses to grow up." __I would be too if I lived in Malibu and drove a Mercedes and had followers who would give me everything including head at a moments whim. Rj, are you being literal here? The idea that Ravi is a holy man is ludicrous. And why is that? Is that an experience you have or a concept? Put that man back in rags and give him a following of beggars and see if he's still a child or not then an old man. We're all children when we can snap and make people jump. Again, is that your direct experience with him or a projection? If he's a child then the logical question is, whose tit is he sucking? Alrerady answered, MD's. -Peter __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ b.. To unsubscribe
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S!
He has an arshram in Bangalore but travels most of the time. --- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So where does he live? What does he drive? What are his business holdings? What are his sexual preferences. Don't know? Then how can you idolize him? It doesn't matter what I say, it's what you belive that's important because you're his follower. I'm sure not. If you know nothing about his then what exactly are you following? A feather? Does he know your name? - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S! --- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already told you I don't like him.He didn't like me. Yes, he lives in Malibu and drives a mercedes. Didn't you know that? You're getting Sri Sri Ravi Shankar confused with someone else because he does not live in Malibu! I still can't take you seriously RJ! You know he doesn't live in Malibu! -Peter I mean, he's presently much less innocuous than Maharishi but that's who he takes his cue from, so don't expect real religion beyond the religion of his own personality to be there if the mirror is held up. And if religion is what your seeking then consider that were it possible it's considerable that Maharishi's neovedism would be the same in the end game. I have many meditation techniques that I made up, many of which are much more inspired and well reasoned than mere hyperventilation and TM redux. Don't you know that I re-cognized the religion of Bhagalamukhi the Crane Faced Mahavidya? The point is, that if he looked like me you would just think he was another punk ass bitch. Instead, because he's a Hindu with shiny black hair and twinkling eyes and neti neti talk patterns and white robes he fits the mold of guru and world savior for you. He's much more materialistic than I will ever be. No, I don't know who's blowing him. Do you honestly think he would turn some good head down from some babe while he's driving his Mercedes through Pac Pal? Why? He took no vows of anything afaik. I mean, who cares? I don't. What's the difference? Want to find the truth. Offer him a handjob next time you pick him up from the airport. If he says no, then just say, just kidding, and if he says yes then just say just kidding. If a truth seeker wants truth then they need the balls for it. Too scared to lift the dhoti to see what it reveals? To scared to dash the idol to face nihilism? No other human besides yourself is as ready to make the proper moral decisions that confront you. So no other human guide is necessary. I just don't get the need to place other people on pedestals. They all need to come down. Even Sri Shankara was a complete asshole and misogynist. He wrote great Hindu copy while his entourage pressed the poor and downtrodden further under foot. A poor person giving a dime too another is a much greater act of sacrifice than an organization with millions giving millions for tax write offs. Arg, the truth is so obvious. You had just said how hard it is to get rid of one false guru without setting another one up. Well, I guess you know how hard it is. - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S! --- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are welcome! In the beginning of the interview not shown on the website, the host said: I just called you a guru. Do you define yourself as that?. The interesting part of R's answer was: I just consider myself as a child. I think I'm a child who refuses to grow up. __I would be too if I lived in Malibu and drove a Mercedes and had followers who would give me everything including head at a moments whim. Rj, are you being literal here? The idea that Ravi is a holy man is ludicrous. And why is that? Is that an experience you have or a concept? Put that man back in rags and give him a following of beggars and see if he's still a child or not then an old man. We're all children when we can snap and make people jump. Again, is that your direct experience with him or a projection? If he's a child then the logical question is, whose tit is he sucking? Alrerady answered, MD's. -Peter
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Probably not, but for some reason you sound familiar. What do you charge for TM? -Peter Hey. For working people approx. 480 Dollar, less for students. If people don't have money, they learn for free. I do not refuse anyone because they do not have money. It is a great releave to initiate without the money-stress. And the students have great experiences. I initiate in small groups, often 1 or two people at the time. It is much better for the students than the big courses we used to have. In Ukraina I initiated 125 persons a day - just terrible. My small groups meets with each other after a while to experience meditating together. Jane To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: RE:BURGER
Is it maybe time for an unofficial global network of unrecertified TM teachers listed on the net, via a dedicated webpage...? Could even rekindle the lost spirit of the Movement and be open to feedback and suggestions from meditators, for a change... call it iTM (independent Transcendental Meditators..) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marwincornyarmand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably not, but for some reason you sound familiar. What do you charge for TM? -Peter Hey. For working people approx. 480 Dollar, less for students. If people don't have money, they learn for free. I do not refuse anyone because they do not have money. It is a great releave to initiate without the money-stress. And the students have great experiences. I initiate in small groups, often 1 or two people at the time. It is much better for the students than the big courses we used to have. In Ukraina I initiated 125 persons a day - just terrible. My small groups meets with each other after a while to experience meditating together. Jane To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE:BURGER
On May 4, 2005, at 11:05 AM, claudiouk wrote: Is it maybe time for an unofficial global network of unrecertified TM teachers listed on the net, via a dedicated webpage...? Could even rekindle the lost spirit of the Movement and be open to feedback and suggestions from meditators, for a change... call it iTM (independent Transcendental Meditators..) That's a great idea. Or something like SMS or SRM. Spiritual Regeneration Meditation To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: BURGERDAMMERUNG
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marwincornyarmand Hey. I do not think we know eachother - because I am from North-Europa, maybe we hav met in some courses. I do not know. Jane Well, if you have a web site, what is it, please. I would think by this time there'd be no reason not to identify yourself. How did you not resist posting after lurking for so long? lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley As for Kirk's essay, I found it to be an extremely entertaining read. I love the raw, unrestrained passion, even if it's not entirely non-fiction. Alex Hey, you've got a knack yourself for the old turn of phrase lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So where does he live? What does he drive? What are his business holdings? What are his sexual preferences. Don't know? Then how can you idolize him? It doesn't matter what I say, it's what you belive that's important because you're his follower. I'm sure not. If you know nothing about his then what exactly are you following? A feather? Does he know your name? Kirk, Reach up, slowly. Move your hand behind your head, and .. PULL THAT GODDAMNED BEE OUT OF YOUR BONNET. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE:BURGER
on 5/4/05 10:05 AM, claudiouk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it maybe time for an unofficial global network of unrecertified TM teachers listed on the net, via a dedicated webpage...? Could even rekindle the lost spirit of the Movement and be open to feedback and suggestions from meditators, for a change... call it iTM (independent Transcendental Meditators..) We have a links section here. Jane and others could link to their web sites. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] question for jane
. marwincornyarmand wrote kicked out of TMO 3 years ago, because I refused to sign an agreement with the TMO, due to the prices and the focus on money all the time. After I was kicked out, I have been initiating openly outside the TMO sometimes for a little money sometimes for free. That made a lot of noise from the TMO, with threats, lawyers, you name it. I won - the TMO lost. I am very happy i am curious, in what sense did you win over the TMO? was it a moral victory where you just persevered and nobody was gonna stop you? or was it a legal victory, setting a legal precedent for independent TM teaching. a friend of mine has been teaching TM at the old rates for quite some time, and he is always busy initiating new people. i would like to tell him about your legal victory, if thats what you meant ;-) g. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Is it maybe time for an unofficial global network of unrecertified TM teachers listed on the net, via a dedicated webpage...? Could even rekindle the lost spirit of the Movement and be open to feedback and suggestions from meditators, for a change... call it iTM (independent Transcendental Meditators..) Hey. I think that is a great idea. I will never again - repeat: NEVER AGAIN join a new organisation - but I think it is a lot of confused TM- teachers out there who really want to initiate, but is hanging up in their minds with the TMO. If I can be to any help with my experience - I will be happy for that. By the way, my real name is Ingegerd, so let us use that for the future. Ingegerd (Jane) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Well, if you have a web site, what is it, please. I would think by this time there'd be no reason not to identify yourself. How did you not resist posting after lurking for so long? Lurk You are probably right. My webside is: http://www.mikinorge.no http://transcendentalmeditasjon.no Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S!
--- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So where does he live? What does he drive? What are his business holdings? What are his sexual preferences. Don't know? Then how can you idolize him? It doesn't matter what I say, it's what you belive that's important because you're his follower. I'm sure not. If you know nothing about his then what exactly are you following? A feather? Does he know your name? Kirk, Reach up, slowly. Move your hand behind your head, and .. PULL THAT GODDAMNED BEE OUT OF YOUR BONNET. lurk lurk, I was going to suggest reaching more south than north ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
i am curious, in what sense did you win over the TMO? was it a moral victory where you just persevered and nobody was gonna stop you? or was it a legal victory, setting a legal precedent for independent TM teaching. a friend of mine has been teaching TM at the old rates for quite some time, and he is always busy initiating new people. i would like to tell him about your legal victory, if thats what you meant ;-) g. The TMO did not take me to the Court. The treathen to do it, and I said Do it. Then they withdraw. But you have to know the law and use a lawyer who is tough. You have rights as a citizen of a democracy - bless the democracy. The TMO is in some way afraid of the reputation, - and a courtcase could destroy the TMO completely. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Check out http://tinyurl.com/ae8lr on 5/4/05 10:56 AM, marwincornyarmand at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if you have a web site, what is it, please. I would think by this time there'd be no reason not to identify yourself. How did you not resist posting after lurking for so long? Lurk You are probably right. My webside is: http://www.mikinorge.no http://transcendentalmeditasjon.no Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Taking a cue from Ralph Taylor
Title: Taking a cue from Ralph Taylor From a friend: Ralph has had phenomenal results from his team of vedic pandits in India. The $30,000 a year fee is an astonishing cash flow for India! http://www.vedicpandits.org/ http://www.vedicpandits.org/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
You mentioned in your first email that teachers were especially disturbed after or because of the recert course. Do you mean teachers who took the course or didn't or both? Please elaborate. I meant TM-Teacher that has been waiting for better times and did not go to the recert. course. Some of them feel that they are nothing anymore and have quite a process to go with their owns feelings. Some are initiating more or less in secret. I have not spoken to recertified teachers. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Carlos?
Title: Carlos? Santana Sued Over Supernatural Firing Some say that listening to Carlos Santana play the guitar can be a spiritual experience. But in a lawsuit brought by Bruce Kuhlman, one of Santana's former employees, Kuhlman claims he was fired because he wasn't spiritual enough. Kuhlman's suit alleges that Carlos's spouse, Deborah Santana, consulted with a guru named Dr. Dan, and that employees were evaluated using Dr. Dan's Neuro-Emotional Technique. Unfortunately for Kuhlman, his enlightenment/consciousness level was too low, and apparently he was too old to raise it. Kuhlman maintains that Mrs. Santana based her hiring and firing decisions exclusively on evaluation by Dr. Dan and his measure of the applicant's 'consciousness level.' According to the suit, Dr. Dan said that the more enlightened a person was, the closer to God he was and the better employee he was. Deborah Santana recently penned a book entitled Space Between the Stars. Her Web site states that Deborah sought a path of illumination and justice and has remained committed to spread peace, wholeness and unfold her own spiritual transformation. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
on 5/4/05 11:24 AM, marwincornyarmand at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mentioned in your first email that teachers were especially disturbed after or because of the recert course. Do you mean teachers who took the course or didn't or both? Please elaborate. I meant TM-Teacher that has been waiting for better times and did not go to the recert. course. Some of them feel that they are nothing anymore and have quite a process to go with their owns feelings. Some are initiating more or less in secret. I have not spoken to recertified teachers. What is Svend Trier doing these days? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: RE:BURGER
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it maybe time for an unofficial global network of unrecertified TM teachers listed on the net, via a dedicated webpage...? Could even rekindle the lost spirit of the Movement and be open to feedback and suggestions from meditators, for a change... call it iTM (independent Transcendental Meditators..) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marwincornyarmand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably not, but for some reason you sound familiar. What do you charge for TM? -Peter Hey. For working people approx. 480 Dollar, less for students. If people don't have money, they learn for free. I do not refuse anyone because they do not have money. It is a great releave to initiate without the money-stress. And the students have great experiences. I initiate in small groups, often 1 or two people at the time. It is much better for the students than the big courses we used to have. In Ukraina I initiated 125 persons a day - just terrible. My small groups meets with each other after a while to experience meditating together. Jane iTM - I like it - newagey, but it's connected ;) JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] It's all Open Source
Swami Vishnu Devananda says: Being Duly Sworn on this 30 day of June, 1986 I Swami Vishnu Devananda state the following: 1. I am a Swami of the Saraswati order in the Shankaracharaya line, and am fully knowledgable and expert in the theories and practical techniques associated with teaching meditation. I have taught meditation internationally for the past 30 years in North and South America, the Carribean, Europe, The Mediterranean, Australia, India, Southeast Asia, etc. and maintain 30 teaching centers, and affiliated groups under the name Sivananda Yoga Vedanta Centers. 2. I hereby state and fully affirm that any Bija mantras or alleged Bija mantras used by the defendants various organizations have been in public domain for centuries. They are commonly known in India and parts of the west. They can be located in books which I and other authors have published and can be found in almost any free library. They are not the trade secrets of any particular organization. Many of the Bija Mantras are listed in my book, Meditation and Mantras. My Guru, H.H. Swami Sivananda of Rishikesh, listed these mantras in his work, Japa Yoga in the section on Bija Mantras. (see attached copy) 3. The effortless, passive repetition of these mantras is not unique to the practice of the defendants programs, and is common in all meditative practices. Here I guote points 8 and 9 from the 14 points of meditation outlined in Chapter 2 of my book, Meditation and Mantras: 8. Allow the mind to wander at first. It will jump around, but will eventually become concentrated, along with the concentration of prana. 9. Do not force the mind to be still. This will set into motion additional brain waves, hindering meditation. If the mind persists in wandering, simply disassociate from it, and watch it as though you were watching a movie. It will gradually slow down. 4. If an individual who is unqualified or unprepared to begin meditation uses a bija mantra, negative physiological or psychological effects can occur. 5. The Yoga sutras of Patanjali and the practice of the formulas which result in siddhis are common practices taught throughout India. Many translations of the Yoga Sutras can be found in many libraries throughout the world. The Raja Yoga sutras have also been introduced to my students through my book Meditation and Mantras as taught by my own Guru, Swami Sivananda. Further the goal of Yoga is not the obtainment of siddhis, and these powers are not to be sought as an end in themselves. Patanjali himself warns in chapter 3 of the Raja Yoga Sutras: (37.) From that comes intuitional hearing, thought, sight taste and smell. 38. Te samadhau upasarga vyutthane siddhayah: These are obstacles to the state of samadhi, though they are considered powers to the mind which is worldly. Patanjali makes it clear that the siddhis described above are but temptations and distractions from the superconscious state. They only appear attractive to those who are steeped in worldliness, egoism and the desire for power. Seeking these powers can bring many physiological and psychological problems to the individuals concerned. 6. Translations of the Rig Veda - Mandalas 1 thru 10 and translations of the Jaimini Sutras are not the private, unique secret information of any particular organization, but rather are part of the scripural heritage of India and are commonly known and publicly used. 7. The information regarding the mantras, techniques and scriptural books listed above are most definitely not a copywritable unique body of knowledge, nor are they the trade secrets of the defendants various organizations. Rather they are an integral part of the rich cultural and scriptural heritage which belongs to India. 8. It is my opinion that if anyone purchased goods or services from the defendants organizations with an impressions to the contrary, then those individuals were defrauded. [30th June 1986] [Signed Swami Vishnudevananda] [Om Namo Narayanaya...Om - Peace - Om Santi] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
What is Svend Trier doing these days? I do not know - have not heard about him for years. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: BURGERDAMMERUNG
Llundrub, you hit the nail on the head! No, this is NOT a compliment! (ha-ha) At the same time re the TMO I get this distinct feeling that since the TMO doesn't 'belong' to Mahrishi per se, that he doesn't belong to it either. It appears more like kids who really want to play in his front yard, and he loves them so he lets them, going along with their ideas to build a tree house, etc. The TMO appears to be an ego shell for what is really going on; Maharishi has always said that the real work is being done in Silence. And it Is. And Jane, good for you! I too as many did went through pure hell in extracting my belief system from the TMO. Fortunately it occurred when I first learned the Sidhis, now discarded, so I was VERY perceptive about what the TMO really consisted of, and I had the good sense to avoid it for long term career prospects. The householder life definitely has its challenges for me, but they are at least comprehensible. All the Best, Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had to go through the whole deprogramming thing, and then the whole refinding myself thing, and then the whole I'm ok thing, To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
on 5/4/05 11:57 AM, marwincornyarmand at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is Svend Trier doing these days? I do not know - have not heard about him for years. Not active in the movement then, I presume. Just Googled him and came up with http://www.artpeople.dk/Svend_Trier__Booking_af_foredr.595.0.html, but I can't read it. What does it say? Many other results, if you Google his name. For those who don't know him, he was the National Leader of Norway for many years. Was a friend of mine at Estes Park. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's all Open Source
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Swami Vishnu Devananda says: Being Duly Sworn on this 30 day of June, 1986 I Swami Vishnu Devananda state the following: 1. I am a Swami of the Saraswati order in the Shankaracharaya line, and am fully knowledgable and expert in the theories and practical techniques associated with teaching meditation. I have taught meditation internationally for the past 30 years in North and South America, the Carribean, Europe, The Mediterranean, Australia, India, Southeast Asia, etc. and maintain 30 teaching centers, and affiliated groups under the name Sivananda Yoga Vedanta Centers. 2. I hereby state and fully affirm that any Bija mantras or alleged Bija mantras used by the defendants various organizations have been in public domain for centuries. They are commonly known in India and parts of the west. They can be located in books which I and other authors have published and can be found in almost any free library. They are not the trade secrets of any particular organization. Many of the Bija Mantras are listed in my book, Meditation and Mantras. My Guru, H.H. Swami Sivananda of Rishikesh, listed these mantras in his work, Japa Yoga in the section on Bija Mantras. (see attached copy) attached ? Vaj, look at the link below from tracenet.org; from your point of view is the description there is authentic in term of Bija Mantras: http://www.trancenet.org/secrets/mantras.shtml snip To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Not active in the movement then, I presume. Just Googled him and came up with http://www.artpeople.dk/Svend_Trier__Booking_af_foredr.595.0.html, but I can't read it. What does it say? Many other results, if you Google his name. For those who don't know him, he was the National Leader of Norway for many years. Was a friend of mine at Estes Park. Hey. Svend Trier was the National Leader i Denmark - the youngest National Leader ever. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's all Open Source
On May 4, 2005, at 1:18 PM, anonymousff wrote: Vaj, look at the link below from tracenet.org; from your point of view is the description there is authentic in term of Bija Mantras: It's a listing of *some* of the hundreds of bijas. Why? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: question for jane
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been thinking for the last several years that I'd like to start teaching TM again. Of course I would have to do it outside of the constraints of the TMO and its insane $2500 fee. I'd probably charge $325.00 for a working adult which is the going rate for a weekend seminar in this area. Of course I'd do it for less if the person couldn't afford it or if they were a student or retired. George asks a good question. Anyone familiar with the legal assaults in the US or elsewhere that independents have experienced? -Peter Peter, there is a long time indipendent near you. Have Fred put you in touch. JohnY (also 51, BTW) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Svend Trier, was: BURGER
on 5/4/05 12:37 PM, marwincornyarmand at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Svend Trier was the National Leader i Denmark - the youngest National Leader ever. Can you (or Irmeli) read Danish? What does that article say about him? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
That's cool. Looks like you will have to have your own residence courses as well. Have you considered that? - Original Message - From: marwincornyarmand To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER Probably not, but for some reason you "sound"familiar. What do you charge for TM?-PeterHey.For working people approx. 480 Dollar, less for students. If people don't have money, they learn for free. I do not refuse anyone because they do not have money. It is a great releave to initiate without the money-stress. And the students have great experiences. I initiate in small groups, often 1 or two people at the time. It is much better for the students than the big courses we used to have. In Ukraina I initiated 125 persons a day - just terrible.My small groups meets with each other after a while to experience meditating together.JaneTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE:BURGER
Sounds like a job for Rick Archer, keeper of the flame. Head Lucifer. - Original Message - From: claudiouk To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE:BURGER Is it maybe time for an unofficial global network of unrecertified TM teachers listed on the net, via a dedicated webpage...? Could even rekindle the "lost" spirit of the Movement and be open to feedback and suggestions from meditators, for a change... call it iTM (independent Transcendental Meditators..)--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marwincornyarmand" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably not, but for some reason you "sound" familiar. What do you charge for TM? -Peter Hey. For working people approx. 480 Dollar, less for students. If people don't have money, they learn for free. I do not refuse anyone because they do not have money. It is a great releave to initiate without the money-stress. And the students have great experiences. I initiate in small groups, often 1 or two people at the time. It is much better for the students than the big courses we used to have. In Ukraina I initiated 125 persons a day - just terrible. My small groups meets with each other after a while to experience meditating together. JaneTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE:BURGER
OTMO - Original Transcendental Meditation Organization. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE:BURGER On May 4, 2005, at 11:05 AM, claudiouk wrote: Is it maybe time for an unofficial global network of unrecertified TM teachers listed on the net, via a dedicated webpage...? Could even rekindle the "lost" spirit of the Movement and be open to feedback and suggestions from meditators, for a change... call it iTM (independent Transcendental Meditators..)That's a great idea. Or something like SMS or SRM. "Spiritual Regeneration Meditation"To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S!
It's ironic that most horror movies are actually parodies of Christianity but most people are so used to seeing crosses burned and stabbed through people that they have fogrgotten that the original time that the cross was used against another as a spiritual weapon must have been very idolatrous and confusing. Whatever your icon or symbols of choice tomorrow someone will heft it and use it to bash someone elses brain out. Best to stick with the formless best to stick with simplicity best to see what's really here, and not get stuck on labels because they will be used against the very person who created them in the first place. So as the famous sticker goes, Eat McShit! I didn't mean that I was just being illustrative. - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRSh on Bettina S! --- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: So where does he live? What does he drive? What are his business holdings? What are his sexual preferences. Don't know? Then how can you idolize him? It doesn't matter what I say, it's what you belive that's important because you're his follower. I'm sure not. If you know nothing about his then what exactly are you following? A feather? Does he know your name? Kirk, Reach up, slowly. Move your hand behind your head, and .. PULL THAT GODDAMNED BEE OUT OF YOUR BONNET. lurklurk, I was going to suggest reaching more south thannorth ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Not active in the movement then, I presume. Just Googled him and came up with http://www.artpeople.dk/Svend_Trier__Booking_af_foredr.595.0.html, but I can't read it. What does it say? Many other results, if you Google his name. For those who don't know him, he was the National Leader of Norway for many years. Was a friend of mine at Estes Park. It seems that Svein Trier is working with cultural things, making arrangement for musicians, writers etc. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's all Open Source
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 4, 2005, at 1:18 PM, anonymousff wrote: Vaj, look at the link below from tracenet.org; from your point of view is the description there is authentic in term of Bija Mantras: It's a listing of *some* of the hundreds of bijas. Why? I'm just trying to understand. The fact that MMY is using Bija Mantras does not suggests that his techniques , aka , TM and TM-Sidhis are not efficient. After all we all have the same ultimate goal, of happiness to mankind, don't we. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] question for jane
My guess is that upon the forming of a new corporate countenance to front the new movement the old corporations and their agreements have been obsoleted. Moreover, Maharishi himself has decommisioned people thereby relieving them of the choice of continued obligation. The prior peoples of TM could probably claim that they have some percentage to the original name and product through having donated much monies over the years, in terms of restoration, and that should be a counter claim to any potential threat. Furthermore, it could probably be argued that they could use the name Transcendental Meditation regardless of any consideration due to monopoly laws, and usury laws. This is a pithy area, and the willing lawyer can foresee a huge class action to regain proprietary rights to a product basically stolen from the people who developed or promoted it. I don't see Maharishi ever being sequestered into court in the US or elsewhere so my guess is he doesn't havea legal foot to stand on. Finally, he would be probably arrested for contempt upon arriving in the US should he make a claim. - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] question for jane I've been thinking for the last several years that I'dlike to start teaching TM again. Of course I wouldhave to do it outside of the constraints of the TMOand its insane $2500 fee. I'd probably charge $325.00for a working adult which is the going rate for aweekend seminar in this area. Of course I'd do it forless if the person couldn't afford it or if they werea student or retired. George asks a good question.Anyone familiar with the legal assaults in the US orelsewhere that "independents" have experienced? -Peter--- George DeForest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . marwincornyarmand wrote kicked out of TMO 3 years ago, because I refused to sign an agreement with the TMO, due to the prices and the focus on money all the time. After I was kicked out, I have been initiating openly outside the TMO sometimes for a little money sometimes for free. That made a lot of noise from the TMO, with threats, lawyers, you name it. I won - the TMO lost. I am very happy i am curious, in what sense did you "win" over the TMO? was it a "moral victory" where you just persevered and nobody was gonna stop you? or was it a legal victory, setting a legal precedent for "independent" TM teaching. a friend of mine has been teaching TM at the old rates for quite some time, and he is always busy initiating new people. i would like to tell him about your legal victory, if thats what you meant ;-) g. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's all Open Source
On May 4, 2005, at 2:10 PM, anonymousff wrote: I'm just trying to understand. The fact that MMY is using Bija Mantras does not suggests that his techniques , aka , TM and TM-Sidhis are not efficient. After all we all have the same ultimate goal, of happiness to mankind, don't we. Bija mantras are all concerned with manifesting *something*. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's all Open Source
Not true, there are nirguna and saguna bijam. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's all Open Source On May 4, 2005, at 2:10 PM, anonymousff wrote: I'm just trying to understand. The fact that MMY is using Bija Mantras does not suggests that his techniques , aka , TM and TM-Sidhis are not efficient. After all we all have the same ultimate goal, of happiness to mankind, don't we.Bija mantras are all concerned with manifesting *something*.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's all Open Source
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 4, 2005, at 2:10 PM, anonymousff wrote: I'm just trying to understand. The fact that MMY is using Bija Mantras does not suggests that his techniques , aka , TM and TM-Sidhis are not efficient. After all we all have the same ultimate goal, of happiness to mankind, don't we. Bija mantras are all concerned with manifesting *something*. No need to be sarcastic, if you don't believe that transcending while using Bija mantras creates bliss experience which eventually evolves into CC etc so just say so. At least that way I'll know where your stand is. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's all Open Source
On May 4, 2005, at 2:26 PM, anonymousff wrote: No need to be sarcastic, if you don't believe that transcending while using Bija mantras creates bliss experience which eventually evolves into CC etc so just say so. At least that way I'll know where your stand is. shrugs Why would you think I was being sarcastic? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's all Open Source
On May 4, 2005, at 2:23 PM, Llundrub wrote: Not true, there are nirguna and saguna bijam. Haha.
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's all Open Source
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 4, 2005, at 2:26 PM, anonymousff wrote: No need to be sarcastic, if you don't believe that transcending while using Bija mantras creates bliss experience which eventually evolves into CC etc so just say so. At least that way I'll know where your stand is. shrugs Why would you think I was being sarcastic? forget it Vaj, I have no mood going into loops at the moment. Thanks. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE:BURGER
on 5/4/05 1:31 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marwincornyarmand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is Svend Trier doing these days? I do not know - have not heard about him for years. Ingegerd Did'nt he join Chopra ? Did he? Can you cite evidence? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Did'nt he join Chopra ? After Chopra left TMO, we were not allowed to even mention his name. Svein Trier did arrange a seminar in Denmark with Chopra, and felt in disgrace. The punishment for this hit all the TM-Teachers in Denmark. For years they was not allowed to meet MMY -. Every time I was in Vlodrop, the denish TM-Teachers was treated as person - none - grate, not existing persons. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Interesting. Well, Svend is a cool guy. Very self-possessed and wise even as a very young man. I can't read all those Danish web sites you get when you Google his name, but if you can see his email address on any of them, I'd appreciate having it. on 5/4/05 1:56 PM, marwincornyarmand at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did'nt he join Chopra ? After Chopra left TMO, we were not allowed to even mention his name. Svein Trier did arrange a seminar in Denmark with Chopra, and felt in disgrace. The punishment for this hit all the TM-Teachers in Denmark. For years they was not allowed to meet MMY -. Every time I was in Vlodrop, the denish TM-Teachers was treated as person - none - grate, not existing persons. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's all Open Source
Haha = nirguna, Hahahaha Ho = nirguna. ;) - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's all Open Source On May 4, 2005, at 2:23 PM, Llundrub wrote: Not true, there are nirguna and saguna bijam.Haha. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's all Open Source
A candidate for loopy loops. - Original Message - From: anonymousff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:51 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's all Open Source --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: On May 4, 2005, at 2:26 PM, anonymousff wrote: No need to be sarcastic, if you don't believe that transcending while using Bija mantras creates bliss experience which eventually evolves into CC etc so just say so. At least that way I'll know where your stand is. shrugs Why would you think I was being sarcastic?forget it Vaj, I have no mood going into loops at the moment.Thanks.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RE:BURGER
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/4/05 11:57 AM, marwincornyarmand at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is Svend Trier doing these days? I do not know - have not heard about him for years. Not active in the movement then, I presume. Just Googled him and came up with http://www.artpeople.dk/Svend_Trier__Booking_af_foredr.595.0.html, but I can't read it. What does it say? I'll try to translate some of it on the basis of Swedish: Svend Trier, foredragsholder, skribent og meditationslærer. Har undervist i meditation og bevidsthedsudvikling gennem mere end 25 år. Er desuden stifter og leder af Quantum Seminars, som arrangerer kurser og seminarer med internationalt kendte lærere og forfattere inden for personlig og spirituel udvikling. Svend Trier, entrepreneur(?), writer(?) and teacher of meditation. Has taught meditation and development of consciousness for more than 25 years. Furthermore, he is the founder(?) and leader of Quantum Seminars, that arranges courses and seminars with internationally noted teachers and writers, for personal and spiritual development. Many other results, if you Google his name. For those who don't know him, he was the National Leader of Norway for many years. Was a friend of mine at Estes Park. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
i added 2 more links, for my friend Paul Brown, who was TM Center Chairman in San Francisco 1989-1995, who now sucessfully teaches real TM Independently, both in the Bay Area, and elsewhere by request. Business is booming! g. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER Check out http://tinyurl.com/ae8lron 5/4/05 10:56 AM, marwincornyarmand at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if you have a web site, what is it, please. I would think by this time there'd be no reason not to identify yourself. How did you not resist posting after lurking for so long? Lurk You are probably right. My webside is: http://www.mikinorge.no http://transcendentalmeditasjon.no IngegerdTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] two volumes of Maharishi quotes
Title: Power of Silence: 21st Century Books Home Browsing? Start Here Top Ten Lists Our Unique Categories Recent Arrivals Cart Search by Subject Advaita Aging Gracefully Animal Studies Astrology Auto/Biography Ayurveda Ayurvedic Cookbooks Balsekar (Ramesh) Buddhism Business and Investing Cayce CD Childbirth Children's Books Coffee Table Books Cookbooks Cosmology Death and Dying Enlightened Ones Fairfield Connection Fiction Gemstones Golf Hatha Yoga Holistic Health Humor Inspirational Jyotish Jyotish Beginner Jyotish Interm./Advanced Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Mysticism Natural Home Nature Nisargadatta Occult Osho Parenting Poetry Psychology/Per. Growth Quantum Physics Ram Dass Ramana Maharshi Reincarnation Relationships Sacred Images Sai Baba Sanskrit Studies Science Scripture Seekers' Journals Social/Political Sports Sthapatyaved TM Travel Vastu Vedic Chanting Vedic Literature Vedic Math Videos Women's Studies World Religions Writing (How To) Yoga Yogananda Search By Title By Author By Keyword Keyword Gift Ideas Customer Help Contact Us Newsletter Call us at 800-593-2665or 641-472-5105Email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] $27.95 Paperback Power of Silence Maharishi Mahesh Yogi In my opinion, a priceless collection of short quotes gathered from Maharishi's talks over many years and on many continents. If you have never seen this, or don't own it, you are in for a tremendous treat. This is a kind of "A to Z" or Soup to Nuts compendium of wisdom about every important topic that could ever come to mind. There are 175 pages chock full of wisdom that you will want to read over and over again. Makes a fantastic gift for anyone, TM practitioner or not, who loves wisdom and truth. Home | Browsing? Start Here | Top Ten Lists | Our Unique Categories | Recent Arrivals | View CartGift Ideas | Customer Help | Contact Us | Newsletter To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER on 5/4/05 2:41 PM, George DeForest at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i added 2 more links, for my friend Paul Brown, who was TM Center Chairman in San Francisco 1989-1995, who now sucessfully teaches real TM Independently, both in the Bay Area, and elsewhere by request. Business is booming! I fixed capitalization in the descriptions, but it changed the editor name to my name. would you please make another small edit on each of them, such as adding a period after the descriptions? That will change the editor name back to your name, and it wont look like I posted them all. Not that Im trying to salvage my movement status or anything. Toast is toast. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE:BURGER
on 5/4/05 2:21 PM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/4/05 11:57 AM, marwincornyarmand at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is Svend Trier doing these days? I do not know - have not heard about him for years. Not active in the movement then, I presume. Just Googled him and came up with http://www.artpeople.dk/Svend_Trier__Booking_af_foredr.595.0.html, but I can't read it. What does it say? I'll try to translate some of it on the basis of Swedish: Can you see an email address for him anyplace? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] New files on Projet René Guénon
New files on Projet René Guénon http://www.elkorg-projects.blogspot.com 01. René Guénon, Saint Bernard (1090-1153), (texte intégral) fr. 02. Traditionalist Thinkers 03. Notes sur René Guénon dans les dictionnaires et les encyclopédies fr. 04. Bibliographie de l'exégèse guénonienne fr. 05. Julius Evola, American Civilization engl. 06. Mihai Marinescu, Tradition in the Romanian World - engl. 07. René Guénon, Conversions engl. 08. Bibliographie Amadou Hampâté Bâ fr. 09. Jean Hani, René Guénon et le christianisme: à propos du Symbolisme de la croix fr. 10. René Guénon, Conditions for Initiation engl. 11. René Guénon, Deux lettres au peintre René Burlet fr. All the best, Radu Iliescu 'Jewels are stones, but cannot be found everywhere; the sandal tree is a tree, but does not grow in every forest; as there are many elephants, but only one king elephant, so there are human beings all over the world, but the real human being is rarely to be found.' (a sanskrit poet) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i added 2 more links, for my friend Paul Brown, who was TM Center Chairman in San Francisco 1989-1995, who now sucessfully teaches real TM Independently, both in the Bay Area, and elsewhere by request. Business is booming! Rick Archer wrote: I fixed capitalization in the descriptions, but it changed the editor name to my name. would you please make another small edit on each of them, such as adding a period after the descriptions? That will change the editor name back to your name, and it won't look like I posted them all. Not that I'm trying to salvage my movement status or anything. Toast is toast. ha, ha...toast IS toast...BE the toast! but now that the website set you as the poster, it will no longer allow me to edit!! doesnt matter! g. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: independent TM links
Have added http://www.tm-meditation.co.uk/index1.htm But don't know anything more about them --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i added 2 more links, for my friend Paul Brown, who was TM Center Chairman in San Francisco 1989-1995, who now sucessfully teaches real TM Independently, both in the Bay Area, and elsewhere by request. Business is booming! g. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER Check out http://tinyurl.com/ae8lr on 5/4/05 10:56 AM, marwincornyarmand at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if you have a web site, what is it, please. I would think by this time there'd be no reason not to identify yourself. How did you not resist posting after lurking for so long? Lurk You are probably right. My webside is: http://www.mikinorge.no http://transcendentalmeditasjon.no Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE:BURGER
ROFL...it's not like joining the Mafia, Rick. :) On May 4, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > Did'nt he join Chopra ? Did he? Can you cite evidence?
[FairfieldLife] Re: RE:BURGER
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/4/05 2:21 PM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/4/05 11:57 AM, marwincornyarmand at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is Svend Trier doing these days? I do not know - have not heard about him for years. Not active in the movement then, I presume. Just Googled him and came up with http://www.artpeople.dk/Svend_Trier__Booking_af_foredr.595.0.html, but I can't read it. What does it say? I'll try to translate some of it on the basis of Swedish: Can you see an email address for him anyplace? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doesn't look like a personal email address, though. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE:BURGER
. On May 4, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Did'nt he join Chopra ? Rick Archer wrote: Did he? Can you cite evidence? Sal Sunshine wrote: ROFL...it's not like joining the Mafia, Rick. :) you must not know the climate at MUM... to the true believing, recertified ru its worse than joining the mafia... its like a ray of light joining with the darkness... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE:BURGER
on 5/4/05 4:03 PM, George DeForest at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you must not know the climate at MUM... to the true believing, recertified ru its worse than joining the mafia... its like a ray of light joining with the darkness... It's true. Deepak was Mr. Wonderful at MUM. Standing ovations in the dome every time he burped. Then he flew the coop and became the devil incarnate. I heard that someone actually spat on him in an airport. Aren't cults amusing? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] MUM Review: 100 Maharishi Enlightenment Centers to Open
. 100 Maharishi Enlightenment Centers to OpenAs part of the recent impetus to bring Maharishi's knowledge to the worldvia newly recertified teachers of the Transcendental Meditation techniqueand the establishment of Maharishi Peace Palaces in communities around theworld, Maharishi Enlightenment Centers are opening initially in over 100locations in the United States beginning in late April and early May.These Maharishi Enlightenment Centers will open as storefronts in commercialareas such as malls and will be accompanied by wide-scale newspaper displayadvertising. According to a participant on the recent recertification course, the Centersare aimed at that portion of the population interested in natural health andpersonal and societal development and growth.The new stores will feature instruction in the Transcendental Meditationtechnique, a Maharishi Vedic Approach to Health(SM) spa, organic food andclothing, wellness and educational programs, non-synthetic health andpersonal care products and services, and books, music, and videos related toMaharishi Vedic technologies.*** source: The Review, Vol. 20, #15, May 4, 2005Copyright 2005, Maharishi University of Management Headlineshttp://www.mum.edu/TheReviewREVIEW-L is an electronic newsletter sent out approximately every two weeksduring the academic year containing news stories relating to MaharishiUniversity of Management.Those not already subscribed to The Review can receive it via e-mail bysending an e-mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]with the word "subscribe" in the body of the message.®Transcendental Meditation, TM-Sidhi, Maharishi Word of Wisdom, MaharishiVedic Approach to Health, Maharishi Vedic, Maharishi Vedic Science, Scienceof Creative Intelligence, Maharishi Gandharva Veda, Maharishi Peace Palace,Maharishi Enlightenment Center, Maharishi Vedic City, Ideal Girls School,Maharishi Spiritual University, Maharishi Open University, Maharishi Schoolof the Age of Enlightenment, and Maharishi University of Management areregistered or common law trademarks licensed to Maharishi Vedic EducationDevelopment Corporation and used under sublicense or with permission. *** To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: bumper stickers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few days ago I saw this on a bumper sticker in Illinois: AVOID HELL REPENT NOW TRUST JESUS TODAY Effective piece of marketing, I think. In the light of the recent study that claimed TM improved longevity for the elderly, maybe we should have a bumper sticker with a similarly unambiguous message: SENIORS DO TM NOW MEDITATE OR DIE That should do the trick. They'll be flooding into the malls to those new enlightenment centers. *** While I was working at Xerox in El Segundo Calif, long ago, some employee had a combination of customized license plate and bumper stickers that had the edifying message TM in the PM for a BM in the AM I think a freeway shooter got 'em in a couple days, just for the bad verse (it doesn't take much to piss us off in LA): http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/042505_nw_highway_shooting.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE:BURGER
Oh, I know it well. I guess I was surprised that Rick seemed to be buying into that, is all. Sal On May 4, 2005, at 4:03 PM, George DeForest wrote: you must not know the climate at MUM... to the true believing, recertified ru its worse than joining the mafia... its like a ray of light joining with the darkness...
[FairfieldLife] Re: bumper stickers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few days ago I saw this on a bumper sticker in Illinois: AVOID HELL REPENT NOW TRUST JESUS TODAY Effective piece of marketing, I think. In the light of the recent study that claimed TM improved longevity for the elderly, maybe we should have a bumper sticker with a similarly unambiguous message: SENIORS DO TM NOW MEDITATE OR DIE That should do the trick. They'll be flooding into the malls to those new enlightenment centers. I liked the bumper sticker that said: Jesus loves you. Everyone else thinks you're an asshole To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: bumper stickers
. bumper sticker in Illinois: AVOID HELL REPENT NOW TRUST JESUS TODAY Jesus loves you. Everyone else thinks you're an asshole add to the list: TODAY I FOUND JESUS!! (he was behind the couch all this time...) -- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] question for jane
Why not just teach it for free or for whatever the person wants to give you? Peter Sutphen wrote: I've been thinking for the last several years that I'd like to start teaching TM again. Of course I would have to do it outside of the constraints of the TMO and its insane $2500 fee. I'd probably charge $325.00 for a working adult which is the going rate for a weekend seminar in this area. Of course I'd do it for less if the person couldn't afford it or if they were a student or retired. George asks a good question. Anyone familiar with the legal assaults in the US or elsewhere that independents have experienced? -Peter --- George DeForest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . marwincornyarmand wrote kicked out of TMO 3 years ago, because I refused to sign an agreement with the TMO, due to the prices and the focus on money all the time. After I was kicked out, I have been initiating openly outside the TMO sometimes for a little money sometimes for free. That made a lot of noise from the TMO, with threats, lawyers, you name it. I won - the TMO lost. I am very happy i am curious, in what sense did you win over the TMO? was it a moral victory where you just persevered and nobody was gonna stop you? or was it a legal victory, setting a legal precedent for independent TM teaching. a friend of mine has been teaching TM at the old rates for quite some time, and he is always busy initiating new people. i would like to tell him about your legal victory, if thats what you meant ;-) g. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Some TM bijas
Here are the explanations for some of the TM mantras, straight from the source, the Varada-tantra (no, not Rig Veda...): Hreeng [It gives the meaning of the sequence of letters in the bija] Ha means Shiva. Ra is said to be Prakriti. Ee means Maha-maya. Nada is said to be the Mother of the Universe. Bindu means dispeller of sorrow. With that Bhuvaneshvari should be worshipped. Shreeng [It gives the meaning of the sequence of letters in the bija] Sa means Mahalakshmi. Ra is said to mean wealth. Ee means satisfaction. Nada is Apara. Bindu means dispeller of sorrow. This is the bija of Devi Lakshmi. With it the Devi should be worshipped. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Some TM bijas
I have all the bijas.Billy Smith and I went through all this a few years back. Do you know him? OOps. I thought this was private. http://www.biosoundprogram.com/ - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 5:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Some TM bijas Here are the explanations for some of the TM mantras, straight from the source, the Varada-tantra (no, not Rig Veda...):Hreeng[It gives the meaning of the sequence of letters in the bija]Ha means Shiva. Ra is said to be Prakriti. Ee means Maha-maya. Nada is said to be the Mother of the Universe. Bindu means dispeller of sorrow. With that Bhuvaneshvari should be worshipped.Shreeng[It gives the meaning of the sequence of letters in the bija]Sa means Mahalakshmi. Ra is said to mean wealth. Ee means satisfaction. Nada is Apara. Bindu means dispeller of sorrow. This is the bija of Devi Lakshmi. With it the Devi should be worshipped.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
