[FairfieldLife] Re: Paris Burns Again
It is not the end of democracy. Maybe we have extended democracy too far. The results are bad if you start to raise kids with democratic principles. Instead of giving them firm limits and rules, you have a vote with them about the proper time to go to bed etc. With the refugees I'm ready to sacrifice democracy. Many of those people don't respect democratic values themselves. Therefore some consideration should be given to the idea that full democratic rights are not given to them either. They are much less independently thinking responsibly functioning individuals than the westerners. Regularly, when somebody participates in terrorism, there is a lot of manipulation behind for example by family, who may get paid for by sacrificing one of their family members. Irmeli --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's just punishing innocent people for what one person does. Start doing that and it is the end of democracy in that country. Sal On Nov 8, 2005, at 6:03 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote: ow about sending anyone who is caught of participating in terrorism and rioting back to their country of origin with their whole extended family?. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Other Earth like worlds
Rory wrote: *lol* That's what I (and I suspect many of us) often do in deep sleep -- go to various realms and download stuff :-) Tom T: My experience was that I spent about 8 months doing gradute study on the three gunas. Every night as I fell asleep it was clear I was going back to watching the three gunas do their thing for another whole night. Finally I woke in the middle of the night and I wasn't sure why. When I asked my self the question what is going on? the answer was you have finished studying the three gunas and you now know every aspect of them. What I know is on some fine or sublte intuitive level but it sure feels rock solid. Tom Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
Back in December, 1983, Maharishi arrived for the Taste of Utopia Course. That evening, the temperature in Fairfield plunged to about 15 degrees below zero; The local press, made a big deal of all the meditators, standing outside the dome, in the freezing temperatures, for a glimpse of Maharishi. I don't know what the crime rate was then, But I know it was too damn cold to think about anything, besides staying warm... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So why did they have a pre and post period? ?? Why not? HAHAHA. Just for fun I suppose. jeez. Pre and post aren't control periods because they take place at *different times of the year*. So they did not use pre and post periods? OK, you don't want to discuss this in good faith, for some reason. Why do you think I am not discussing this in good faith? Oh, please. You're a lot more transparent than you think. I am trying to get basic answers about the study. You, IMO, keep jumping around the answers. I do not. When I know something, I tell you. When I don't, I say so. Its clear you don't have much knowledge of the study, I have more knowledge of the study than you do, that's for sure. thats fine. No foul, no crime. I was simply temporarily diverted by your IMO emphatic answers, as a sign that you knew something of substance about the study. I was incorrect. No, you were correct, actually. What I don't know is the details of the statistical methodology. Lets move on. Forget it. um ok. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
When the newly fertilized egg, attaches to the uterus, In order to be aborted, the procedure requires, sucking, and tearing it from the womb. Many times, woman who use abortion, as a means to birth control, can so damage their wombs, that they can bleed to death. Abortion is violent, on all levels; physical, mental, emotional and spiritual... Whether or not the government approves or disapproves of the procedure, it will still go on. There are lot's of things the government disapproves of, and that doesen't seem to prevent people from doing as they wish. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bmorry2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do some research on partial birth abortion. This will help you to decide what a baby looks likein case you are not sure. P.S. In response to others: naturally ejaculated sperm, menstruation (where an unfertilize egg is discarded), and spontaneous miscarriage are not violently induced--like legal abortion. Again, refer to the literature on partial birth abortion. So are you against all abortion -- as implied in previous posts? Or are you only opposed to partial-birth abortions? Or are you opposed to both but playing bait and switch / strawman games? If violently induced is your criteria for opposing abortion, then you would appear to approve of the use of the morning after pill and the oral abortion pill. Can anyone clarify with direct or spousal experience: Are abortions in the first trimester, particulary by second month, violent in nature. Is violent induction a reasonable and fair way to describe such early term abortions? I think abortion is a violent act also when done in the early stages. But mild compared to other sorts of violence that is abundant in human societies. To be born as an unwanted child to parents who are not capable or fully willing of taking proper care of their off- spring is the recipe for making violently acting individuals. I am much more concerned about this more brutal violence in society and how to diminish it. I respect every woman's right to determine if she wants to have a child or not. Abundant societal support for young mothers or families would help to enhance the desire to raise an unexpected child. In societies where women are in low position and where they are valued only as mothers, children are not wanted as themselves, but as a means to get appreciation and someone to take care of you. Good education and free abortion for women are good medicines in those circumstances. Irmeli Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the newly fertilized egg, attaches to the uterus, In order to be aborted, the procedure requires, sucking, and tearing it from the womb. Many times, woman who use abortion, as a means to birth control, can so damage their wombs, that they can bleed to death. Abortion is violent, on all levels; physical, mental, emotional and spiritual... Whether or not the government approves or disapproves of the procedure, it will still go on. There are lot's of things the government disapproves of, and that doesen't seem to prevent people from doing as they wish. I agree. And I think it is better to accept this fact and guarantee that women can have an abortion in safe circumstances. Abortion is of course a lousy birth-control method. But I really wonder if a significant number of women truly use it as such. There are other reasons like the birth-control they used failed. And P-pills don't suit everyone. I tried many and none suited me. I have myself gone through abortion at age 20. My birth-control method at that time was counting the safe days and it failed. And I didn't feel ready for a child at that time. I had just started my studies at university. It would have created a lot of economic difficulties also. I felt I was lucky to get a free abortion. The new free abortion law had come into force just two weeks earlier. My pregnancy was at the seventh week at the time of the abortion. So it was done at a very early stage. My mother had an illegal abortion 10 years earlier that was poorly done. The consequence was that her womb had to be removed in the hospital. Irmeli Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
The coldest it got was 25 below. When you walked in the snow it sqweeked. --- Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back in December, 1983, Maharishi arrived for the Taste of Utopia Course. That evening, the temperature in Fairfield plunged to about 15 degrees below zero; The local press, made a big deal of all the meditators, standing outside the dome, in the freezing temperatures, for a glimpse of Maharishi. I don't know what the crime rate was then, But I know it was too damn cold to think about anything, besides staying warm... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So why did they have a pre and post period? ?? Why not? HAHAHA. Just for fun I suppose. jeez. Pre and post aren't control periods because they take place at *different times of the year*. So they did not use pre and post periods? OK, you don't want to discuss this in good faith, for some reason. Why do you think I am not discussing this in good faith? Oh, please. You're a lot more transparent than you think. I am trying to get basic answers about the study. You, IMO, keep jumping around the answers. I do not. When I know something, I tell you. When I don't, I say so. Its clear you don't have much knowledge of the study, I have more knowledge of the study than you do, that's for sure. thats fine. No foul, no crime. I was simply temporarily diverted by your IMO emphatic answers, as a sign that you knew something of substance about the study. I was incorrect. No, you were correct, actually. What I don't know is the details of the statistical methodology. Lets move on. Forget it. um ok. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] the DC study
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/8/05 10:11 PM, gullible fool at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You were asking about the homicides and the swimming pool. The homicide rate did go up during the course. Hagelin's excuse was that the kind of people who commit crimes like that are too angered and irrational to be influenced by extra coherence. And Maharishi used to joke that the criminals were killing the criminals, the implicating being that that might be a good thing. Again, very sloppy theory building done by people with glaring agendas. Semi-pseudo social science research for the TB's. I say semi because there was some intent to do serious research, but when the data did not fit the theory cleanly, the post hoc and ad hoc comments started flying. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
On Nov 9, 2005, at 12:15 AM, authfriend wrote:It's important to understanding the study. It's being used as a way to suggest they changed things around after seeing the data to get a better result, which isn't what happened. And you're using it to construct all kinds of speculations about their methodology. It's just ridiculous. They may have changed *other* things around, for all any of us know, but they didn't just introduce the weather after the fact. Why do you think they MIU researchers refused to share their raw data with the University of Iowa? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LB, (or anyone familiar with the study) Per your prior note, What was added in the 25% second round of analysis, relative to the first round, the 17% results? Was it the weather variables or Index? Or was weather included in the first round of analysis? If weather was in the first round. what was added in the second round. When where the other control variables, other crime factors such as police on the street, police practices, LE funding, etc introduced? Clearing up a minor point on my own initial lowball estimate of 17%: PANDITS HAD BEEN PART OF THE ORIGINAL PROTOCOL. They had been bought and paid for. Then they didn't show. So the group that participated was not as powerful as the group that had originally been anticipated. After the scaling back of original reports claiming 25% reduction (might have been 20% come to think of it), there was an ongoing effort of several months to make the data fit. My graduate student friend Mark __ (last name still not remembered) was a part of this. I had a standing joke with him about it: whenever I bumped into him I would ask, Seen any good statistics lately? Then he would give me an informal update. Let me be clear that this was not a conspiratorial relationship. Mark was completely sold on the program and convinced that the correct interpretation of the data would reveal the results. I was just an innocent bystander. Sort of. Since I was not recording all the details for posterity at the time, only the impressions remain. The impressions indicated that it took quite an effort to rectify the findings based on their original model. I do not remember a single alteration or adjustment, but something more like a scavenger hunt. It is interesting to me how we are all quibbling about the details. If anything is revealed here, it is that the demonstration demonstrated nothing. Except, perhaps, to the participants. Personally, I thought the course was a great experience. I doubt if anyone outside the course even remembers it. Certainly it is not being cited in all the journals as a profound feat of engineering in the domain of collective consciousness. Needless to say, this is a typical cult phenomenonthe insiders believing that their every breath shakes the world, the outsiders not even noticing. L B S Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
On Nov 8, 2005, at 10:54 PM, akasha_108 wrote:You don't see how possibly "a single well constructed model would control for weather, sociological and crime-factor variabes, and the intervention variable, ALL AT THE SAME TIME."? If you don't understand this, then what can I say. You have no background or knowledge of regression, ARIMA and modeling. Why you are trying to interject points with no basis in knowledge is astounding. This is a constant in the TB mentality: *sound* like you know what you are talking about and hope that if you repeat it many times, people will believe you. I find this to be a rather common phenom in movement type and it is a subtle and continuous form of disinformation. When it becomes pervasive, that is, everyone around you or that you hang out with or listen to is parroting the same disinformation, it *becomes your reality*. It's also the danger of trying to use a scientific methodology NOT as an attempt to find the truth, but as a marketing tool disguised as looking for the truth. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
On Nov 9, 2005, at 12:03 AM, sparaig wrote: So what's going to be the practical result of all these half or 3/4 baked M-effect studies? Millionaires giving MMY lots of money? The birth of a really creative marketing tool: make people think they are actually getting a meditation technique that leads to world peace. I mean, who could say no to that! If you were marketing something aimed at the 60's/boomer generation, what else would you need? It's not unlike the CEO that does *whatever* he can to keep that stock price up. In that sense, CEO Mahesh is the "spiritual" Dennis Kozlowski. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Devraha Baba on MMY
On Nov 8, 2005, at 3:37 PM, bbrigante wrote:Devraha Baba Devraha Baba was a great saint of India who passed away in 1991. So elderly was he that the President of India, Dr. Rajendra Prasad, more than fifty years ago said that his father had sat at the feet of Devraha Baba as a child — that is, in the middle of the nineteenth century — and Devraha Baba was already elderly at that time. An Allahabad High Court Barrister told Purusha visiting there that seven generations of his family had sat at the feet of Devraha Baba. snipMore disinformation? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then it was the following year that the pundits were bought and paid for but didn't come. You were right, originally, LB. There was plenty of talk of pundits coming. I was doing on-campus CCP at MUM that spring and saw plenty of fellow CCPers and MUM friends leave for the DC course. The course started in June, actually. The pundits were used as another carrot to motivate them all to go, in typical movement style. For the record, there was nothing in the study protocols that were announced in advance, or any of the literature or PR the movement put out on the study, about pundits attending. And I never heard a thing about pundits at the Manhattan center. I heard plenty of buzz early on about pundits. It fell through and they announced a public course instead. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip To recap: my guesstimation was indeed intutional, and based on the circumstance that the pundits were not actually going to appear for the course No pundits were *scheduled* to appear for the course. ???OF course there were. Theynever showed and it was all done in- house by civilian sidhas. Of course?? There was *nothing* in any of the literature or PR about the study--starting from months beforehand--that mentioned pundits, no buzz about it at the Manhattan center. This is the first I've heard anything about pundits in connection with the demonstration project, and I followed it very closely at the time. I guess I was aware of things earlier than the announcements you heard. I was hearing things via the MUM grapevine via contacts with MUM professors and so on, IIRC. What are you talking about? It was just your everyday TM-Sidhis practitioners (probably some Mother Divine and Purusha, though). The initial call was forpundits to fly in (via airplane) but they couldn't make it happen. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The FBI uniform crime statistics were used for the study. The data is publicly available from the FBI, but not the researchers, a chief complaint by Barry M. No, that was the data for the Jerusalem study he was complaining about. Ah, that's right. He couldn't complain about the non-public availability of the DC study because it was from a publicly available source already... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 12:15 AM, authfriend wrote: It's important to understanding the study. It's being used as a way to suggest they changed things around after seeing the data to get a better result, which isn't what happened. And you're using it to construct all kinds of speculations about their methodology. It's just ridiculous. They may have changed *other* things around, for all any of us know, but they didn't just introduce the weather after the fact. Why do you think they MIU researchers refused to share their raw data with the University of Iowa? As Judy pointed out,that was for the Jerusalem study. The DC study crime data comes from the FBI Uniform Crime Statistics, a book published yearly by... the FBI. The other data was also from public sources. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LB, (or anyone familiar with the study) Per your prior note, What was added in the 25% second round of analysis, relative to the first round, the 17% results? Was it the weather variables or Index? Or was weather included in the first round of analysis? If weather was in the first round. what was added in the second round. When where the other control variables, other crime factors such as police on the street, police practices, LE funding, etc introduced? Clearing up a minor point on my own initial lowball estimate of 17%: PANDITS HAD BEEN PART OF THE ORIGINAL PROTOCOL. They had been bought and paid for. Then they didn't show. So the group that participated was not as powerful as the group that had originally been anticipated. After the scaling back of original reports claiming 25% reduction (might have been 20% come to think of it), there was an ongoing effort of several months to make the data fit. My graduate student friend Mark __ (last name still not remembered) was a part of this. I had a standing joke with him about it: whenever I bumped into him I would ask, Seen any good statistics lately? Then he would give me an informal update. Let me be clear that this was not a conspiratorial relationship. Mark was completely sold on the program and convinced that the correct interpretation of the data would reveal the results. I was just an innocent bystander. Sort of. Since I was not recording all the details for posterity at the time, only the impressions remain. The impressions indicated that it took quite an effort to rectify the findings based on their original model. I do not remember a single alteration or adjustment, but something more like a scavenger hunt. It is interesting to me how we are all quibbling about the details. If anything is revealed here, it is that the demonstration demonstrated nothing. Except, perhaps, to the participants. Personally, I thought the course was a great experience. I doubt if anyone outside the course even remembers it. Certainly it is not being cited in all the journals as a profound feat of engineering in the domain of collective consciousness. Needless to say, this is a typical cult phenomenonthe insiders believing that their every breath shakes the world, the outsiders not even noticing. This is a valid point, but there are plenty of examples in the scientific community of a study or even a mathematical technique being ignored for years, decades (or even a century in the case of the math) that later on are seen as ground-breaking. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Devraha Baba on MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 8, 2005, at 3:37 PM, bbrigante wrote: Devraha Baba Devraha Baba was a great saint of India who passed away in 1991. So elderly was he that the President of India, Dr. Rajendra Prasad, more than fifty years ago said that his father had sat at the feet of Devraha Baba as a child that is, in the middle of the nineteenth century and Devraha Baba was already elderly at that time. An Allahabad High Court Barrister told Purusha visiting there that seven generations of his family had sat at the feet of Devraha Baba. snip More disinformation? How do you know? That some Indian saint liked MMY doesn't mean that MMY is what TB's say he is. That you do NOT like MMY doesn't mean that he is not... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 12:03 AM, sparaig wrote: So what's going to be the practical result of all these half or 3/4 baked M-effect studies? Millionaires giving MMY lots of money? The birth of a really creative marketing tool: make people think they are actually getting a meditation technique that leads to world peace. I mean, who could say no to that! If you were marketing something aimed at the 60's/boomer generation, what else would you need? It's not unlike the CEO that does *whatever* he can to keep that stock price up. In that sense, CEO Mahesh is the spiritual Dennis Kozlowski. Of course, perhaps TM and the TM-Sidhis really DO lead to world peace... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Personally, I thought the course was a great experience. I doubt if anyone outside the course even remembers it. Certainly it is not being cited in all the journals as a profound feat of engineering in the domain of collective consciousness. Needless to say, this is a typical cult phenomenonthe insiders believing that their every breath shakes the world, the outsiders not even noticing. This is a valid point, but there are plenty of examples in the scientific community of a study or even a mathematical technique being ignored for years, decades (or even a century in the case of the math) that later on are seen as ground-breaking. True enough, point well taken. In a general sense, I think the consciousness movement will look better in retrospect than at its beginnings. On the other hand, I doubt that many of the other examples you refer to have had an amply-funded PR organization touting them, either. L B S Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Devraha Baba on MMY
On Nov 9, 2005, at 8:07 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 8, 2005, at 3:37 PM, bbrigante wrote: Devraha Baba Devraha Baba was a great saint of India who passed away in 1991. So elderly was he that the President of India, Dr. Rajendra Prasad, more than fifty years ago said that his father had sat at the feet of Devraha Baba as a child — that is, in the middle of the nineteenth century — and Devraha Baba was already elderly at that time. An Allahabad High Court Barrister told Purusha visiting there that seven generations of his family had sat at the feet of Devraha Baba. snip More disinformation? How do you know? That some Indian saint liked MMY doesn't mean that MMY is what TB's say he is. That you do NOT like MMY doesn't mean that he is not... I don't know--thus the question mark. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
On Nov 9, 2005, at 8:06 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 12:03 AM, sparaig wrote: So what's going to be the practical result of all these half or 3/4 baked M-effect studies?Millionaires giving MMY lots of money? The birth of a really creative marketing tool: make people think they are actually getting a meditation technique that leads to world peace. I mean, who could say no to that! If you were marketing something aimed at the 60's/boomer generation, what else would you need? It's not unlike the CEO that does *whatever* he can to keep that stock price up. In that sense, CEO Mahesh is the "spiritual" Dennis Kozlowski. Of course, perhaps TM and the TM-Sidhis really DO lead to world peace... Of course it is *possible*. Improbable IMO since TM or TMSP does not work at pacification and taming of the mind (in the yogic sense). However I find M.'s comments to Earl Kaplan to be rather telling. Even he doesn't believe it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the newly fertilized egg, attaches to the uterus, In order to be aborted, the procedure requires, sucking, and tearing it from the womb. Many times, woman who use abortion, as a means to birth control, can so damage their wombs, that they can bleed to death. Only if they're forced to do it themselves with a coat hanger, or have some quack do it on a kitchen table because safe medical abortion isn't available. First-trimester abortion is *significantly* safer, if done in a medical facility by a competent physician, than bringing the fetus to term and giving birth--especially for younger women. Abortion is violent, on all levels; physical, mental, emotional and spiritual... So is *birth*, for pete's sake. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the newly fertilized egg, attaches to the uterus, In order to be aborted, the procedure requires, sucking, and tearing it from the womb. Many times, woman who use abortion, as a means to birth control, can so damage their wombs, that they can bleed to death. Abortion is violent, on all levels; physical, mental, emotional and spiritual... Whether or not the government approves or disapproves of the procedure, it will still go on. There are lot's of things the government disapproves of, and that doesen't seem to prevent people from doing as they wish. I agree. And I think it is better to accept this fact and guarantee that women can have an abortion in safe circumstances. Abortion is of course a lousy birth-control method. But I really wonder if a significant number of women truly use it as such. There are other reasons like the birth-control they used failed. Or they couldn't obtain birth control, or were never told how to use it, or even that they *should* use it, because some idiots decided their being able to use birth control would make it more likely that they would have sex. snip I have myself gone through abortion at age 20. My birth-control method at that time was counting the safe days and it failed. Had anybody told you that was highly unreliable? If not, why not? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 12:15 AM, authfriend wrote: It's important to understanding the study. It's being used as a way to suggest they changed things around after seeing the data to get a better result, which isn't what happened. And you're using it to construct all kinds of speculations about their methodology. It's just ridiculous. They may have changed *other* things around, for all any of us know, but they didn't just introduce the weather after the fact. Why do you think they MIU researchers refused to share their raw data with the University of Iowa? I've explained this before. The researcher who asked, Barry Markovsky, had initially presented himself as an objective, unbiased researcher who was interested in their work. They believed him and shared what they were doing with him. Then they discovered he was making derogatory public comments to the media and was strongly biased *against* the whole enterprise. When he demanded to see their data, they were concerned that he would twist it and misrepresent their findings. They no longer trusted him to give an honest account. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip PANDITS HAD BEEN PART OF THE ORIGINAL PROTOCOL. They were not any part of the protocol that was made public, nor any part of the discussion and planning by the independent review board that was made public. I got on the mailing list for everything that was released about the study from its early stages, and there was no mention of pandits anywhere in it. They had been bought and paid for. Then they didn't show. So the group that participated was not as powerful as the group that had originally been anticipated. After the scaling back of original reports claiming 25% reduction (might have been 20% come to think of it), Yes, it was 20 percent. there was an ongoing effort of several months to make the data fit. My graduate student friend Mark __ (last name still not remembered) was a part of this. I had a standing joke with him about it: whenever I bumped into him I would ask, Seen any good statistics lately? Then he would give me an informal update. Let me be clear that this was not a conspiratorial relationship. Mark was completely sold on the program and convinced that the correct interpretation of the data would reveal the results. I was just an innocent bystander. Sort of. Since I was not recording all the details for posterity at the time, only the impressions remain. The impressions indicated that it took quite an effort to rectify the findings based on their original model. I do not remember a single alteration or adjustment, but something more like a scavenger hunt. It is interesting to me how we are all quibbling about the details. If anything is revealed here, it is that the demonstration demonstrated nothing. Except, perhaps, to the participants. Even the *raw data*--the crime rate statistics--showed a very significant reduction from the rate the previous year for that period, considerably more than would have been expected from the overall crime trend. What's more, that reduction occurred only during the demonstration period and for a few weeks afterward. Then it went right back up. One of the problems the researchers encountered was obtaining the crime data in the way they had originally anticipated. They had apparently been told by law enforcement (FBI or DC police, not sure which) that they would get it in a certain form, broken down into certain categories, and they constructed their methodology around that understanding. Whether they misunderstood or had been misinformed isn't clear, but a good deal of the fumfing around they had to do afterwards involved redoing the analysis to deal with the form in which they *did* get the data. Plus which, there was a long delay in obtaining one major part of the data. I don't remember the details, just the general outline. Some of this may be described in the study itself. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 8, 2005, at 10:54 PM, akasha_108 wrote: You don't see how possibly a single well constructed model would control for weather, sociological and crime-factor variabes, and the intervention variable, ALL AT THE SAME TIME.? If you don't understand this, then what can I say. You have no background or knowledge of regression, ARIMA and modeling. Why youare trying to interject points with no basis in knowledge is astounding. This is a constant in the TB mentality: *sound* like you know what you are talking about and hope that if you repeat it many times, people will believe you. For the record--since Vaj is responding to comments akasha has made about me, I assume I'm included by Vaj in the TB mentality--I am most definitely *not* a TB with regard to the Maharishi Effect. I've said from the outset, moreover, that I have almost no knowledge of the statistical methodology used in the study, nor of statistics in general, beyond an intelligent layperson's understanding. I'm also on the record many times as saying that even if the ME *does* exist, I don't think it can be conclusively demonstrated scientifically. Plus which, I've said several times in this discussion that my interest is *not* in showing the study to be valid but rather in trying to make sure the broad outlines of what they were doing are correctly understood so that if criticisms are made, they aren't made of a straw man based on misconceptions. For example, in another post akasha complains that only violent crime statistics were studied and expresses suspicion that the researchers left out statistics on nonviolent crime because they didn't demonstrate any effect. That's just a mistake. The study was *always* to be about violent crime *only*. That is clearly stated in the protocol that was publicly announced before the demonstration project even began. Then we've also seen the claim that they decided to use weather as a control after the fact in order to get the data to say what they wanted. That is false; the use of the weather was part of the publicly announced protocol as well. This is the kind of misunderstanding I'd like to clear up. With regard to akasha's comment above about a single model, the way he states it makes me think he does not understand how the study was done and why. I certainly could be wrong. I didn't say it *couldn't* be the case that a single model could do what the researchers intended, only that I didn't see *how* it could. akasha's explanations are not on a level that I can comprehend, nor has he made much of an effort to help me out. But he hasn't seen the study. It used highly sopisticated statistical methodology, and I don't think it's even possible to speculate about what was done on that level of sophistication. I find this to be a rather common phenom in movement type and it is a subtle and continuous form of disinformation. When it becomes pervasive, that is, everyone around you or that you hang out with or listen to is parroting the same disinformation, it *becomes your reality*. It's also the danger of trying to use a scientific methodology NOT as an attempt to find the truth, but as a marketing tool disguised as looking for the truth. I'm sure there are true believers in the Maharishi Effect to whom this applies. But in my case, it's just offensive and deliberately insulting bullshit, and my posts on this topic make that crystal clear. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the newly fertilized egg, attaches to the uterus, In order to be aborted, the procedure requires, sucking, and tearing it from the womb. Many times, woman who use abortion, as a means to birth control, can so damage their wombs, that they can bleed to death. Abortion is violent, on all levels; physical, mental, emotional and spiritual... Whether or not the government approves or disapproves of the procedure, it will still go on. There are lot's of things the government disapproves of, and that doesen't seem to prevent people from doing as they wish. I agree. And I think it is better to accept this fact and guarantee that women can have an abortion in safe circumstances. Abortion is of course a lousy birth-control method. But I really wonder if a significant number of women truly use it as such. There are other reasons like the birth-control they used failed. Or they couldn't obtain birth control, or were never told how to use it, or even that they *should* use it, because some idiots decided their being able to use birth control would make it more likely that they would have sex. snip I have myself gone through abortion at age 20. My birth-control method at that time was counting the safe days and it failed. Had anybody told you that was highly unreliable? If not, why not? I was not told. And it happened in 1971. I think many people at that time thought it would be reliable enough. Irmeli Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Why do you think they MIU researchers refused to share their raw data with the University of Iowa? As Judy pointed out,that was for the Jerusalem study. The DC study crime data comes from the FBI Uniform Crime Statistics, a book published yearly by... the FBI. The other data was also from public sources. Actually, the data for the Jerusalem study were also publicly available. What Markovsky wanted was not the raw data but the data from their statistical analysis. He wanted to see all their calculations, in other words--what went into their study that was not reported in the published paper. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip PANDITS HAD BEEN PART OF THE ORIGINAL PROTOCOL. They were not any part of the protocol that was made public, nor any part of the discussion and planning by the independent review board that was made public. I got on the mailing list for everything that was released about the study from its early stages, and there was no mention of pandits anywhere in it. Protocol might have been a poor choice of words here, given its specific meaning with respect to scientific research. However, the pandits were indeed a central part of the pland for the course, and their absence was widely noted when they failed to show. With all due respect, the fact that you do not recall this at all raises some question about the accuracy of other points you have raised. They had been bought and paid for. Then they didn't show. So the group that participated was not as powerful as the group that had originally been anticipated. After the scaling back of original reports claiming 25% reduction (might have been 20% come to think of it), Yes, it was 20 percent. there was an ongoing effort of several months to make the data fit. My graduate student friend Mark __ (last name still not remembered) was a part of this. I had a standing joke with him about it: whenever I bumped into him I would ask, Seen any good statistics lately? Then he would give me an informal update. Let me be clear that this was not a conspiratorial relationship. Mark was completely sold on the program and convinced that the correct interpretation of the data would reveal the results. I was just an innocent bystander. Sort of. Since I was not recording all the details for posterity at the time, only the impressions remain. The impressions indicated that it took quite an effort to rectify the findings based on their original model. I do not remember a single alteration or adjustment, but something more like a scavenger hunt. It is interesting to me how we are all quibbling about the details. If anything is revealed here, it is that the demonstration demonstrated nothing. Except, perhaps, to the participants. Even the *raw data*--the crime rate statistics--showed a very significant reduction from the rate the previous year for that period, considerably more than would have been expected from the overall crime trend. What's more, that reduction occurred only during the demonstration period and for a few weeks afterward. Then it went right back up. I think that the movement spin machine frames it that way, but as I remember, the police in DC, who had been very cooperative with the study, found the results to be ambiguous at best. At this point, it would take a separate study, beginning from the raw stats, to see if such a reduction was obvious. As I said before, quite a lot of massaging was required afterwards to make the data look good. One of the problems the researchers encountered was obtaining the crime data in the way they had originally anticipated. They had apparently been told by law enforcement (FBI or DC police, not sure which) that they would get it in a certain form, broken down into certain categories, and they constructed their methodology around that understanding. Whether they misunderstood or had been misinformed isn't clear, but a good deal of the fumfing around they had to do afterwards involved redoing the analysis to deal with the form in which they *did* get the data. Plus which, there was a long delay in obtaining one major part of the data. I don't remember the details, just the general outline. Some of this may be described in the study itself. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:29 AM, authfriend wrote:I'm also on the record many times as saying that even if the ME *does* exist, I don't think it can be conclusively demonstrated scientifically. Well, two comments. One, I think it can be demonstrated and has--but it was not called the "Maharishi effect" and Two, I don't believe anyone did any scientific research when it did. There may have been some sociological research. One example was one of the former Soviet republics which slowly converted to Buddhism and there was a huge upsurge in people practicing meditation and taming their own minds. It became a peaceable country. They also integrated western medicine with Tibeto-Ayurvedic medicine.The downside of course was, their neighbors didn't.In the case I'm thinking of, and I'll have to try and relocate the article I had read on this as it might interest some here, no "research" was necessary. It was obvious that this positively affected their entire population. High level of Gross National Happiness. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
on 11/9/05 4:41 AM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back in December, 1983, Maharishi arrived for the Taste of Utopia Course. That evening, the temperature in Fairfield plunged to about 15 degrees below zero; The local press, made a big deal of all the meditators, standing outside the dome, in the freezing temperatures, for a glimpse of Maharishi. I don't know what the crime rate was then, But I know it was too damn cold to think about anything, besides staying warm... With the wind chill it was 50 below. I saw a guy walking through the snow across campus with sandals on. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Why do you think they MIU researchers refused to share their raw data with the University of Iowa? As Judy pointed out,that was for the Jerusalem study. The DC study crime data comes from the FBI Uniform Crime Statistics, a book published yearly by... the FBI. The other data was also from public sources. Actually, the data for the Jerusalem study were also publicly available. What Markovsky wanted was not the raw data but the data from their statistical analysis. He wanted to see all their calculations, in other words--what went into their study that was not reported in the published paper. In any published paper the methodology and the type of statistical analysis along with the rational for that particular analysis used is discussed in the paper. My understanding is that Markovsky wanted to see the raw data that was crunched by that analysis. I view Markovsky attitude toward the ME has healthy skepticism considering its radical nature and MIU's refusal to share raw data was based more on the weakness of the ME than on any bias on his part. They were concerned that the raw data could be crunched to show no ME. And their concern was correct. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Devraha Baba on MMY
How do you know it's disinformation.?? You hate MMY. You accused Ramana of indescretions. Tomorrow, if some crazy Joker says that, Buddha was fucking around under the bodh-gaya, would you believe that also.?? http://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=8,1284,0,0,1,0 http://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=1,1173,0,0,1,0 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2000/11/05/wmonk05.xml ---OriginalMessage-- From: "Vaj" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 07:38:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Devraha Baba on MMY On Nov 8, 2005, at 3:37 PM, bbrigante wrote: Devraha Baba Devraha Baba was a great saint of India who passed away in 1991. So elderly was he that the President of India, Dr. Rajendra Prasad, more than fifty years ago said that his father had sat at the feet of Devraha Baba as a child that is, in the middle of the nineteenth century and Devraha Baba was already elderly at that time. An Allahabad High Court Barrister told Purusha visiting there that seven generations of his family had sat at the feet of Devraha Baba. snip More disinformation? Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Washington DC Violent Crimes: 1993 highest rate per capita 1960-2003
http://bjsdata.ojp.usdoj.gov/dataonline/Search/Crime/State/statebystaterun.cfm?stateid=9 I have not yet located the weekly crime figures for 1993, but here are annual ones. Washington DC Violent Crimes: 1993 highest rate per capita 1960-2003 Many other crime categories were highest in 1993 or near highest -- 1960 -2003 Its odd that 4000 yogic flyers were present in the city forabout 15% of 1993. Particularly given the alleged cumulative nature of ME, its odd that there was not more of an impact in the annual figures. Could there be a reverse ME triggering the peak numbers? Or perhaps is the almost 50% drop in v.crime since 1993 due to the structural changes in consciousness created by the ME techs? Washington DC Violent Crimes Total per 100,000 pop. 1960553.697 1961587.861 1962605.867 1963593.985 1964632.673 1965722.790 1966885.520 19671143.634 19681505.562 19692135.088 19702226.805 19712170.580 19721685.428 19731558.445 19741603.043 19751774.302 19761481.339 19771426.522 19781411.721 19791608.689 19802010.601 19812274.843 19822123.138 19831915.409 19841721.509 19851624.760 19861505.272 19871610.289 19881921.613 19892141.887 19902458.230 19912453.344 19922832.767 19932921.799 19942662.632 19952661.372 19962469.797 19972024.197 19981718.547 19991627.746 20001507.886 20011736.729 20021637.861 20031608.139 You can verify for yourself from this link's data. You can download to a spreadsheet. Divide crimes by population in each yar to normalize to per capita. (Multiply all by 100,000 if you want easier to read figures, and this is the standard form for reporting per capita figures/ per 100,000 population) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Devraha Baba on MMY
On Nov 9, 2005, at 10:14 AM, Jason Spock wrote: How do you know it's disinformation.??Ahem. Once again, I don't know...thus the question mark ("?"). It seems typical to me. You hate MMY. No, I do not. I really can't think of anyone I hate. Projection maybe?Live long and prosper.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: American Indian Spiritual Leader speaks of Earth Changes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OCTOBER 17, 2005 ROBERT WALTERS: Mr. Chairman, thank you and Council, with us is Sidney Has_No_Horses. He is a medicine man from Oglala and Mr. Chairman, he has a message that he's going to all the tribes, all the reservations with what came out of a ceremony and I feel it's a good message. I visited Mr. Has_No_Horses and so at this time, I'd like to get the floor for him. SIDNEY HAS_NO_HORSES Mitakuye Oyasin. All my relatives. I'd like to get in the middle if I could, I really don't like to use the mic. My name is Sidney Has_No_Horses. I'm from the Pine Ridge Reservation. You probably know my father, his name was Dawson Has_No_Horses. He was a yuwipi man, a powerful medicine man. My grandfather's name is Frank Fools Crow. He was also a powerful medicine man. Six months ago, we had a ceremony, in this ceremony, two angels came to me and they talked to me and they told us of the devastation that would happen to the islands and the Indian Ocean. Predicting the past is less impressive than predicting the future. Can this statement be dated to before the t'sunami? His predictions for the future are pretty specific. What about Europe? Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the newly fertilized egg, attaches to the uterus, In order to be aborted, the procedure requires, sucking, and tearing it from the womb. Many times, woman who use abortion, as a means to birth control, can so damage their wombs, that they can bleed to death. Only if they're forced to do it themselves with a coat hanger, or have some quack do it on a kitchen table because safe medical abortion isn't available. First-trimester abortion is *significantly* safer, if done in a medical facility by a competent physician, than bringing the fetus to term and giving birth--especially for younger women. Abortion is violent, on all levels; physical, mental, emotional and spiritual... So is *birth*, for pete's sake. Virtually everything in life has a violent component, Judy. Shiva the destroyer is everywhere: when the red petals of the rose bloom the bud covering has to be violently extinguished to make room for the beautiful petals. So it is disingenious of you to cite birth as a violent act. If birth is violent then virtually everything in the universe is, too. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Two questions for the abortion-lovers
1) How do you feel about people who abort fetuses that are identified as females because they want male babies? Should it be legal to do so? 2) In the not too distant future, the autism gene will be identified and, through an examination of the amniotic fluid, one will be able to identify whether a fetus has the autism gene. Many of these thus-identified fetuses will then be aborted. Do you support this (keep in mind that Vladimir Nabokov, Stephen spielberg, Bill Gates, and Albert Einstein have all been either suspected of or diagnosed with some form of autism)? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Washington DC Violent Crimes: 1993 highest rate per capita 1960-2003
Here are annual % change figures for DC violent crimes (and per 100,000 pop figures). Its interesting to see the big swings. This underscores the fact that there are probably a number of factors driving crime levels. If these are not controlled in the analysis, short term swings, annual, but most certainly 8 week periods, can be due to factors totally unrelated to the intervention. Also, note that in 1992, the year preceeding the study, there was over a 15% increase in crime. The year before was almost 0. So there seems to be some snapback effect, high levels may cause more police crackdowns, higher funding levels etc the following year. The Me study indicated a 25% drop in crime over 8 weeks. This by itself should amount to about a 4% decrease in the annual rate. But it went up 3%. But the next year with no ME effect, crime decreased over 8%. Though having weekly figures would be best, even with annual numbers a 4% impact should be discernble. Of course, these figures need to controlled for weather, LE fund, police levels, etc. It may mot be too hard to find that data on-line (volunteers?). Having such, we can all all run some regressions on it, and introduce the ME year as a dummy variable (a standard way to assess if an impact or intervention resulted in a statistically significant effect -- and to see how large the effect was.) It could be a fun exercise and help raise the level of understanding about this type of analysis. 1960553.697 1961587.861 6.170 1962605.867 3.063 1963593.985 -1.961 1964632.673 6.513 1965722.790 14.244 1966885.520 22.514 19671143.63429.148 19681505.56231.647 19692135.08841.813 19702226.8054.296 19712170.580-2.525 19721685.428-22.351 19731558.445-7.534 19741603.0432.862 19751774.30210.683 19761481.339-16.511 19771426.522-3.701 19781411.721-1.038 19791608.68913.952 19802010.60124.984 19812274.84313.142 19822123.138-6.669 19831915.409-9.784 19841721.509-10.123 19851624.760-5.620 19861505.272-7.354 19871610.2896.977 19881921.61319.333 19892141.88711.463 19902458.23014.769 19912453.344-0.199 19922832.76715.466 19932921.7993.143 19942662.632-8.870 19952661.372-0.047 19962469.797-7.198 19972024.197-18.042 19981718.547-15.100 19991627.746-5.284 20001507.886-7.364 20011736.72915.176 20021637.861-5.693 20031608.139-1.815 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Steve Klayman's report on diksha
From: aumm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Subject: Beautiful Reports Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:39:37 -0600 11/8 Hi, I went to my first and only deeksha program on 8/15/04. I was on a plane to India on 8/28. So much happened to me as a result of that deeksha that my only debate was should I go to India? Why go if it all was happening before my eyes right here in Austin? Looking back I can both say that I am so glad that I went (priceless) and there is no need to goit is unfolding perfectly here. In the end some of you will be called to go and most to stay. How will you know? You will know if you are sitting on a plane going to India. It isn't for everyone and there is no other way for those end up going. Here are two reports I just read today. Each is about India. The first is from Steve Klayman who just returned and will be giving deeksha with me on Friday: Dear friends, As some of you may know I have recently moved back to my house in Austin. I am glad to be home. I got back sept.16 and promptly left for India on sept. 30. Now I am here to stay. I will tell you my story briefly because it is an exciting one for me and the many thousands of others. For a variety of reasons I had decided in July of 2005 to leave the Devi Mandir where I had been with my guru Shree Maa for 6 years. I had planned to return to austin by oct. 1. In late july a TM friend and a member of the Devi Mandir family, Steven Shimer, said to me at his house in Fairfield, California, Steve, I have made more spiritual progress in the last 3 weeks than I have made in the last 10 years. I asked what he was doing and he and Kathy Unger, his wife told me they were going to Berkeley each week for deeksha. Of course I asked what was deeksha. He explained to me that some people had been to India and been trained by two saints, Bhagavan and Amma, to transmit the Divine energy into peoples crown chakra and that they would begin a rapid process of enlightenment or awakening. I trusted Steve and Kathy completely and i went. Each of the first 3 times I went I found it pleasant but nothing to get excited about. Some people loved it right from the start. I went a 4th time and I thought my socks would get blown right off my feet. The bliss was intense and I could barely walk or drive. WOW This was what they were talking about. I decided to stay in the Bay area and really check it out. Other friends checked it out also. Fantastic was the final decision. I have had the spiritual experiences I had been reading about for decades. And I continue to have them daily and they continue to deepen. I had given up on enlightenment. I knew many spiritual people from many different disciplines. The one thing they had in common was they talked about enlightenment. If anybody had it, well.. it certainly was not for the masses. Even those who did hard sadhana had very little to show for it. Bhagavan and Amma are avatars whose specialty is enlightenment. They have trained me to pass on this Divine energy through deeksha. There is no teaching, no techniques to do, nothing to read. Just come and receive deeksha with an attitude of gratitude. Bhagavan calls himself a technician. Just as you sit in the chair and open your mouth for the dentist, so you sit in the chair and let the person place the Golden energy into your head. Thats it. Namaste, Dr. Steve Klayman That says it all! I will point although deeksha is very powerful, many like Steve went a number of times before they actually felt the depths of what was happening to them. I think it happens from the start but sometimes the nervous system, mind, etc. takes awhile to unwind enough for it to be felt. That's why I believe it is good to come as much as your inner guidance feels is apropriate for you. Deeksha is the most powerful energy for enlightenment that I have ever experienced! This next report may seem a little far fetched for some but I know that it isn't. In India, some of the deekshas they gave us were to talk to various Beings. There is so much that I could say but I think she says it best in the report: Dear William, I hope you are well and I am looking forward to seeing you in December. I have tried to write you a couple of times about this but somehow have had trouble getting it on paper. I guess what I would say is that Bhagwan has been very directive in my life lately. He doesn't let me off the hook til I do what he tells me. As you know I came to Austin for the meeting about India even though I really didn't think that we could really go yet, if ever. The money wasn't there and the time didn't seem to work too well either. But we came for the meeting anyway and it was a great blessing to us. I am overwhelmed now just remembering. We got to see you and meet other great folks there in Austin, and we also got the chance to see Steve and visit with him before he took off for India. Well India continued to be on my mind but finally one evening
[FairfieldLife] Re: Two questions for the abortion-lovers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) How do you feel about people who abort fetuses that are identified as females because they want male babies? Should it be legal to do so? 2) In the not too distant future, the autism gene will be identified and, through an examination of the amniotic fluid, one will be able to identify whether a fetus has the autism gene. Many of these thus-identified fetuses will then be aborted. Do you support this (keep in mind that Vladimir Nabokov, Stephen spielberg, Bill Gates, and Albert Einstein have all been either suspected of or diagnosed with some form of autism)? All of you who want to control the act of a woman's abortion are missing the point IMO. It is a personal decision that a woman makes. You or me or anybody else has no business making that decision, unless we are female, and it is our abortion. So, please have all the opinions you want on the world's 'shoulds' and 'shoud nots'. However, unless it is your fetus, you don't have the fundamental right to make the decision on abortion for someone else, whatever their motives may be. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Two questions for the abortion-lovers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) How do you feel about people who abort fetuses that are identified as females because they want male babies? Should it be legal to do so? 2) In the not too distant future, the autism gene will be identified and, through an examination of the amniotic fluid, one will be able to identify whether a fetus has the autism gene. Many of these thus-identified fetuses will then be aborted. Do you support this (keep in mind that Vladimir Nabokov, Stephen spielberg, Bill Gates, and Albert Einstein have all been either suspected of or diagnosed with some form of autism)? All of you who want to control the act of a woman's abortion are missing the point IMO. It is a personal decision that a woman makes. You or me or anybody else has no business making that decision, unless we are female, and it is our abortion. So, please have all the opinions you want on the world's 'shoulds' and 'shoud nots'. However, unless it is your fetus, you don't have the fundamental right to make the decision on abortion for someone else, whatever their motives may be. At http://www.nas.orh.uk, Autism is defined as: A lifelong developmental disability that affects the way a person communicates and relates to people around them. Children and adults with autism are unable to relate to others in a meaningful way. Their ability to develop friendships is impaired, as is their capacity to understand other people's feelings. All people with autism have impairments in social interactions, social communication and imagination. This is referred to as the triad of impairments. If you imagine that Nabokov, Speilberg, Einstein and Bill Gates come under this definition, you must be off your trolly. Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Klayman's report on diksha
I noticed a discrepency in the 2 different accounts of Bhagwan and deeksa which I have highlighted below: --- There is no teaching, no techniques to do, nothing to read. Just come and receive deeksha with an attitude of gratitude. Bhagavan calls himself a technician. Just as you sit in the chair and open your mouth for the dentist, so you sit in the chair and let the person place the Golden energy into your head. Thats it. I guess what I would say is that Bhagwan has been very directive in my life lately. He doesn't let me off the hook til I do what he tells me. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Abbreivations used at FFL
Howdy, good people. I'm a new member/lurker here and really enjoy the banter, most of which is good natured, sometimes mean spirited, but always challenging. I've figured out most of the abbreviations used here, but I can't figure out what TB stands for. I know it's in relationship to TMO sycophants, but what are the initials for? Thanks in advance. Now where did I leave that latte... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Abbreviations used at FFL
on 11/9/05 10:55 AM, ultrarishi at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, good people. I'm a new member/lurker here and really enjoy the banter, most of which is good natured, sometimes mean spirited, but always challenging. I've figured out most of the abbreviations used here, but I can't figure out what TB stands for. True Believer Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [FairfieldLife] Two questions for the abortion-lovers
I wouldnt call myself an abortion-lover, nor anyone else for that matter, but thats me. In answer to both of your questions I think it is futile and unethical to legislate morality. If someone does not want to carry a child for any reason it is not up to me to force her to do so, nor do I think I could. There are a lot of things that we can see as bad in the worldbut all in all it functions perfectly as a teacher and everything is as it should be (IMHO). From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk 1) How do you feel about people who abort fetuses that are identified as females because they want male babies? Should it be legal to do so? 2) In the not too distant future, the autism gene will be identified and, through an examination of the amniotic fluid, one will be able to identify whether a fetus has the autism gene. Many of these thus-identified fetuses will then be aborted. Do you support this (keep in mind that Vladimir Nabokov, Stephen spielberg, Bill Gates, and Albert Einstein have all been either suspected of or diagnosed with some form of autism)? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip PANDITS HAD BEEN PART OF THE ORIGINAL PROTOCOL. They were not any part of the protocol that was made public, nor any part of the discussion and planning by the independent review board that was made public. I got on the mailing list for everything that was released about the study from its early stages, and there was no mention of pandits anywhere in it. Protocol might have been a poor choice of words here, given its specific meaning with respect to scientific research. Yup. However, the pandits were indeed a central part of the pland for the course, and their absence was widely noted when they failed to show. With all due respect, the fact that you do not recall this at all raises some question about the accuracy of other points you have raised. No, of course it doesn't. It just means I started keeping track of it after the pundit possibility had gone down the tubes and nobody was talking about it any more. Or that for some reason pundits per se were never mentioned in any of the literature I was sent. snip Even the *raw data*--the crime rate statistics--showed a very significant reduction from the rate the previous year for that period, considerably more than would have been expected from the overall crime trend. What's more, that reduction occurred only during the demonstration period and for a few weeks afterward. Then it went right back up. I think that the movement spin machine frames it that way, The raw data shows it. but as I remember, the police in DC, who had been very cooperative with the study, found the results to be ambiguous at best. The police representative on the independent review board endorsed the results of the study (he was an expert in crime stats), although he wouldn't commit to the conclusion that the crime rate decline was the result of the gathering. But he said the methodology appeared to be in order. It's hardly surprising the police department wouldn't find the notion that a bunch of people bouncing on their rears could do anything to reduce crime very appealing. At this point, it would take a separate study, beginning from the raw stats, to see if such a reduction was obvious. The raw stats *themselves* were obvious; there was a sharp decline in violent crime during the gathering compared to the same period the previous year. The issue is whether there was anything else that could account for it. The point of the study and all the statistical analysis was to rule out other factors. As I said before, quite a lot of massaging was required afterwards to make the data look good. And as I said before, at least part of it had to do with revamping the methodology and analysis to deal with the form in which they got the statistics, which wasn't what they had been expecting when they designed them. One of the problems the researchers encountered was obtaining the crime data in the way they had originally anticipated. They had apparently been told by law enforcement (FBI or DC police, not sure which) that they would get it in a certain form, broken down into certain categories, and they constructed their methodology around that understanding. Whether they misunderstood or had been misinformed isn't clear, but a good deal of the fumfing around they had to do afterwards involved redoing the analysis to deal with the form in which they *did* get the data. Plus which, there was a long delay in obtaining one major part of the data. I don't remember the details, just the general outline. Some of this may be described in the study itself. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:29 AM, authfriend wrote: I'm also on the record many times as saying that even if the ME *does* exist, I don't think it can be conclusively demonstrated scientifically. Well, two comments. How about an apology for grossly misrepresenting my position? One, I think it can be demonstrated and has--but it was not called the Maharishi effect and Two, I don't believe anyone did any scientific research when it did. There may have been some sociological research. One example was one of the former Soviet republics which slowly converted to Buddhism and there was a huge upsurge in people practicing meditation and taming their own minds. It became a peaceable country. They also integrated western medicine with Tibeto-Ayurvedic medicine. The downside of course was, their neighbors didn't. In the case I'm thinking of, and I'll have to try and relocate the article I had read on this as it might interest some here, no research was necessary. It was obvious that this positively affected their entire population. High level of Gross National Happiness. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Why do you think they MIU researchers refused to share their raw data with the University of Iowa? As Judy pointed out,that was for the Jerusalem study. The DC study crime data comes from the FBI Uniform Crime Statistics, a book published yearly by... the FBI. The other data was also from public sources. Actually, the data for the Jerusalem study were also publicly available. What Markovsky wanted was not the raw data but the data from their statistical analysis. He wanted to see all their calculations, in other words--what went into their study that was not reported in the published paper. In any published paper the methodology and the type of statistical analysis along with the rational for that particular analysis used is discussed in the paper. But not the reams and reams of data produced by the statistical analysis. (That was noted by the editor of the Journal of Conflict Resolution in his comment published with the paper.) My understanding is that Markovsky wanted to see the raw data that was crunched by that analysis. The raw data, again, were publicly available. He wanted to see the data *after* it had been crunched. I view Markovsky attitude toward the ME has healthy skepticism considering its radical nature Healthy, objective skepticism is fine. Markovsky was also biased against the whole enterprise. That's obvious from his paper on the Jerusalem study, but I could quote from many posts of his to alt.m.t that make it crystal clear his intention from the start was to debunk it. You might find it of interest to read a lengthy discussion that took place on alt.m.t in which he maintained the TM researchers were unethical because they didn't obtain informed consent from the populations they were trying to affect before commencing the intervention. and MIU's refusal to share raw data was based more on the weakness of the ME than on any bias on his part. They were concerned that the raw data could be crunched to show no ME. And their concern was correct. I'm sure the raw data *could* be crunched to show no ME, especially if that was what one was determined to find. That's surely what Markovsky wanted to do, as I suggested. In that respect their concern *was* correct, but not necessarily because they were afraid the ME was weak. Also on alt.m.t, TMer Kurt Arbuckle, who has some expertise in statistics, posted some analyses that indicated Markovsky either didn't understand or was misrepresenting the TM researchers' statistical methodology. I'm in no position to evaluate the accuracy of Kurt's thesis, but he's a pretty straightforward guy. Markovsky, I'm afraid, is not. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the newly fertilized egg, attaches to the uterus, In order to be aborted, the procedure requires, sucking, and tearing it from the womb. Many times, woman who use abortion, as a means to birth control, can so damage their wombs, that they can bleed to death. Only if they're forced to do it themselves with a coat hanger, or have some quack do it on a kitchen table because safe medical abortion isn't available. First-trimester abortion is *significantly* safer, if done in a medical facility by a competent physician, than bringing the fetus to term and giving birth--especially for younger women. Abortion is violent, on all levels; physical, mental, emotional and spiritual... So is *birth*, for pete's sake. Virtually everything in life has a violent component, Judy. Shiva the destroyer is everywhere: when the red petals of the rose bloom the bud covering has to be violently extinguished to make room for the beautiful petals. So it is disingenious of you to cite birth as a violent act. If birth is violent then virtually everything in the universe is, too. My point, of course, is that abortion is no *more* violent than birth, or than late miscarriage, for that matter. It's disingenuous of you to pretend you missed that point. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Washington DC Violent Crimes: 1993 highest rate per capita 1960-2003
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are annual % change figures for DC violent crimes (and per 100,000 pop figures). Its interesting to see the big swings. This underscores the fact that there are probably a number of factors driving crime levels. If these are not controlled in the analysis, short term swings, annual, but most certainly 8 week periods, can be due to factors totally unrelated to the intervention. It's my impression that controlling for these factors was precisely what the researchers were attempting to do with their statistical methodology. Box-Jenkins analysis--does that ring a bell? I believe that was also involved. Just remembered it this instant. I have no idea what it is. Also, note that in 1992, the year preceeding the study, there was over a 15% increase in crime. The year before was almost 0. So there seems to be some snapback effect, high levels may cause more police crackdowns, higher funding levels etc the following year. The Me study indicated a 25% drop in crime over 8 weeks. This by itself should amount to about a 4% decrease in the annual rate. But it went up 3%. But the next year with no ME effect, crime decreased over 8%. Could that have been the abortion effect you keep touting kicking in? Though having weekly figures would be best, even with annual numbers a 4% impact should be discernble. Of course, these figures need to controlled for weather, LE fund, police levels, etc. It may mot be too hard to find that data on-line (volunteers?). Having such, we can all all run some regressions on it, and introduce the ME year as a dummy variable (a standard way to assess if an impact or intervention resulted in a statistically significant effect -- and to see how large the effect was.) It could be a fun exercise and help raise the level of understanding about this type of analysis. 1960 553.697 1961 587.861 6.170 1962 605.867 3.063 1963 593.985 -1.961 1964 632.673 6.513 1965 722.790 14.244 1966 885.520 22.514 1967 1143.63429.148 1968 1505.56231.647 1969 2135.08841.813 1970 2226.8054.296 1971 2170.580-2.525 1972 1685.428-22.351 1973 1558.445-7.534 1974 1603.0432.862 1975 1774.30210.683 1976 1481.339-16.511 1977 1426.522-3.701 1978 1411.721-1.038 1979 1608.68913.952 1980 2010.60124.984 1981 2274.84313.142 1982 2123.138-6.669 1983 1915.409-9.784 1984 1721.509-10.123 1985 1624.760-5.620 1986 1505.272-7.354 1987 1610.2896.977 1988 1921.61319.333 1989 2141.88711.463 1990 2458.23014.769 1991 2453.344-0.199 1992 2832.76715.466 1993 2921.7993.143 1994 2662.632-8.870 1995 2661.372-0.047 1996 2469.797-7.198 1997 2024.197-18.042 1998 1718.547-15.100 1999 1627.746-5.284 2000 1507.886-7.364 2001 1736.72915.176 2002 1637.861-5.693 2003 1608.139-1.815 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
On Nov 9, 2005, at 12:19 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:29 AM, authfriend wrote: I'm also on the record many times as saying that even if the ME *does* exist, I don't think it can be conclusively demonstrated scientifically. Well, two comments. How about an apology for grossly misrepresenting my position? Apologize for your hallucinations? Unlikely. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Two questions for the abortion-lovers
Why? We haven't been discussing these issues? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you may have meant to post this to some other group. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) How do you feel about people who abort fetuses that are identified as females because they want male babies? Should it be legal to do so? 2) In the not too distant future, the autism gene will be identified and, through an examination of the amniotic fluid, one will be able to identify whether a fetus has the autism gene. Many of these thus-identified fetuses will then be aborted. Do you support this (keep in mind that Vladimir Nabokov, Stephen spielberg, Bill Gates, and Albert Einstein have all been either suspected of or diagnosed with some form of autism)? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Roe v. Wade (was paperboy)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the newly fertilized egg, attaches to the uterus, In order to be aborted, the procedure requires, sucking, and tearing it from the womb. Many times, woman who use abortion, as a means to birth control, can so damage their wombs, that they can bleed to death. Only if they're forced to do it themselves with a coat hanger, or have some quack do it on a kitchen table because safe medical abortion isn't available. First-trimester abortion is *significantly* safer, if done in a medical facility by a competent physician, than bringing the fetus to term and giving birth--especially for younger women. Abortion is violent, on all levels; physical, mental, emotional and spiritual... So is *birth*, for pete's sake. Virtually everything in life has a violent component, Judy. Shiva the destroyer is everywhere: when the red petals of the rose bloom the bud covering has to be violently extinguished to make room for the beautiful petals. So it is disingenious of you to cite birth as a violent act. If birth is violent then virtually everything in the universe is, too. My point, of course, is that abortion is no *more* violent than birth, Oh, really? Uh, gee, in one instance the result is the snuffing out of a POTENTIAL human life (a god who is recreated in man's image with every human birth); and, in the other instance a human life results. Yeah, very similar. And now you're disingenuously conflating the outcome with the process. As to a human life being a recreation of god, it's a pretty lame god who couldn't salvage his/her image from a piece of unwanted tissue and put it in a piece of tissue that would be treasured. or than late miscarriage, for that matter. It's disingenuous of you to pretend you missed that point. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Schroedinger ja Shankara!
http://www.photonics.cusat.edu/article2.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 12:19 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:29 AM, authfriend wrote: I'm also on the record many times as saying that even if the ME *does* exist, I don't think it can be conclusively demonstrated scientifically. Well, two comments. How about an apology for grossly misrepresenting my position? Apologize for your hallucinations? Unlikely. Sez Vaj, continuing grossly and quite deliberately to misrepresent. And he complains about the purported dishonesty of Maharishi and the TMO... Can you say hypocrite? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Two questions for the abortion-lovers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? We haven't been discussing these issues? As I'm sure has occurred to you, I was referring to your subject heading. It seems you must have had in mind some group among whose members are people who love abortion, but you made your post here by mistake. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you may have meant to post this to some other group. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) How do you feel about people who abort fetuses that are identified as females because they want male babies? Should it be legal to do so? 2) In the not too distant future, the autism gene will be identified and, through an examination of the amniotic fluid, one will be able to identify whether a fetus has the autism gene. Many of these thus-identified fetuses will then be aborted. Do you support this (keep in mind that Vladimir Nabokov, Stephen spielberg, Bill Gates, and Albert Einstein have all been either suspected of or diagnosed with some form of autism)? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
On Nov 9, 2005, at 1:05 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 12:19 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:29 AM, authfriend wrote: I'm also on the record many times as saying that even if the ME *does* exist, I don't think it can be conclusively demonstrated scientifically. Well, two comments. How about an apology for grossly misrepresenting my position? Apologize for your hallucinations? Unlikely. Sez Vaj, continuing grossly and quite deliberately to misrepresent. And he complains about the purported dishonesty of Maharishi and the TMO... Can you say "hypocrite"? Of course it's honest. It's honest because I've never even discussed "your position" in this regard. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: American Indian Spiritual Leader speaks of Earth Changes
From a friend: I forwarded what you had posted below on FFL to a friend who is very connected in the American Indian communitybelow is her response... --- Sherry Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 08:30:40 -0800 (PST) From: Sherry Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fwd: American Indian Spiritual Leader speaks of Earth Changes I've heard of him, but I know Fools Crow is very well known, so if he's descended from Fools Crow, he's a true medicine man - it's passed down from generation to generation. What he says, I have also seen in dreams. I saw some of our friends in a circle praying on our big piece of land and there was smoke and black stuff all around, but it didn't touch us. I know it will happen. I keep thinking a big piece of land will appear and I've been told to keep names of those who are in the dreams, because those are the people who will be living on the land. It's written in a journal here at the house. Everyone should listen to and take heed to all he says and all that's happening, instead of going on with daily life and rebuilding what's been destroyed. We've been destroying homes of animals and birds for many years and now Creator and Mother Earth are showing us how it feels. We still don't listen. More houses, more shops are being built and greed continues. We are making our own demise. I am still joyful each day, because I have so many things to be joyful about. I'm not afraid. What happens will happen and it's Creator's way. How are you doing??? Have a wonderful day! Be happy and keep smiling. Sherry Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 1:05 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 12:19 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:29 AM, authfriend wrote: I'm also on the record many times as saying that even if the ME *does* exist, I don't think it can be conclusively demonstrated scientifically. Well, two comments. How about an apology for grossly misrepresenting my position? Apologize for your hallucinations? Unlikely. Sez Vaj, continuing grossly and quite deliberately to misrepresent. And he complains about the purported dishonesty of Maharishi and the TMO... Can you say hypocrite? Of course it's honest. It's honest because I've never even discussed your position in this regard. More misrepresentation. On Nov 8, 2005, at 10:54 PM, akasha_108 wrote: You don't see how possibly a single well constructed model would control for weather, sociological and crime-factor variabes, and the intervention variable, ALL AT THE SAME TIME.? If you don't understand this, then what can I say. You have no background or knowledge of regression, ARIMA and modeling. Why you are trying to interject points with no basis in knowledge is astounding. Vaj commented: This is a constant in the TB mentality: *sound* like you know what you are talking about and hope that if you repeat it many times, people will believe you. I find this to be a rather common phenom in movement type and it is a subtle and continuous form of disinformation. When it becomes pervasive, that is, everyone around you or that you hang out with or listen to is parroting the same disinformation, it *becomes your reality*. It's also the danger of trying to use a scientific methodology NOT as an attempt to find the truth, but as a marketing tool disguised as looking for the truth. - Akasha, as you know, was responding to something I had said, hence your comment appeared designed to include me as one of the TBs you proceeded to viciously attack. If you would like to state for the record that you did not mean to imply that I was included in those you were so insultingly characterizing, fine, I'll accept that. If not, I stand by my assertion that you were deliberately and offensively misrepresenting my position. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Lotsa Prophecy Links
From: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/circle2012dreams/ Tarot etc beautiful sitehttp://60sfurther.com/Tarot-Decks-Bags.htmProphecy Indexhttp://www.raptureready.com/rap2.html Apocalyptic Anxiety Runs High in Disasters' Wakehttp://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/brooklyn/nyc-end1013,0,3124167,print.story?coll=nyc-manheadlines-brooklynBrian's Predictions - Click on Link for Demonstrated Predictionshttp://briansprediction.com/warnings.htm Healing: An Alaskan Prophecyhttp://www.viewzone.com/alaskan.htmlDo Prophecies Fortell Iraq's Future?http://www.fatemag.com/2005_10art3.html The Origins of Doomsday Anxietyhttp://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/050914doomsday.htmNew History Reveals the Truth About the Fátima Incidenthttp://www.book-of-thoth.com/article1369.html Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
The latest round of tag team wrestling on FFL. Soon Irmeli and I will jump in for you! --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 1:42 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 1:05 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 12:19 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:29 AM, authfriend wrote: I'm also on the record many times as saying that even if the ME *does* exist, I don't think it can be conclusively demonstrated scientifically. Well, two comments. How about an apology for grossly misrepresenting my position? Apologize for your hallucinations? Unlikely. Sez Vaj, continuing grossly and quite deliberately to misrepresent. And he complains about the purported dishonesty of Maharishi and the TMO... Can you say hypocrite? Of course it's honest. It's honest because I've never even discussed your position in this regard. More misrepresentation. On Nov 8, 2005, at 10:54 PM, akasha_108 wrote: You don't see how possibly a single well constructed model would control for weather, sociological and crime-factor variabes, and the intervention variable, ALL AT THE SAME TIME.? If you don't understand this, then what can I say. You have no background or knowledge of regression, ARIMA and modeling. Why you are trying to interject points with no basis in knowledge is astounding. Vaj commented: This is a constant in the TB mentality: *sound* like you know what you are talking about and hope that if you repeat it many times, people will believe you. I find this to be a rather common phenom in movement type and it is a subtle and continuous form of disinformation. When it becomes pervasive, that is, everyone around you or that you hang out with or listen to is parroting the same disinformation, it *becomes your reality*. It's also the danger of trying to use a scientific methodology NOT as an attempt to find the truth, but as a marketing tool disguised as looking for the truth. - Akasha, as you know, was responding to something I had said, hence your comment appeared designed to include me as one of the TBs you proceeded to viciously attack. If you would like to state for the record that you did not mean to imply that I was included in those you were so insultingly characterizing, fine, I'll accept that. If not, I stand by my assertion that you were deliberately and offensively misrepresenting my position. sigh This email was not addressed to you nor was it meant to specifically refer to you. It's not all about you Judy. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] DC Districts
There are 7 districts in DC -- and I have found some annual crime data for them. Does anyone know which district the ME facilities were located? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
On Nov 9, 2005, at 2:10 PM, Peter wrote:The latest round of tag team wrestling on FFL. Soon Irmeli and I will jump in for you! Since Barry disappeared, it was inevitable. I'll remember to bring the Jello next time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 1:42 PM, authfriend wrote: snip Akasha, as you know, was responding to something I had said, hence your comment appeared designed to include me as one of the TBs you proceeded to viciously attack. If you would like to state for the record that you did not mean to imply that I was included in those you were so insultingly characterizing, fine, I'll accept that. If not, I stand by my assertion that you were deliberately and offensively misrepresenting my position. sigh This email was not addressed to you nor was it meant to specifically refer to you. It's not all about you Judy. Was your insulting description of how TBs deal with the scientific studies, in response to what akasha had said to me, *include* me, Vaj? akasha wrote: If you don't understand this, then what can I say. You have no background or knowledge of regression, ARIMA and modeling. Why you are trying to interject points with no basis in knowledge is astounding. Vaj commented: This is a constant in the TB mentality: *sound* like you know what you are talking about and hope that if you repeat it many times, people will believe you. I find this to be a rather common phenom in movement type and it is a subtle and continuous form of disinformation. When it becomes pervasive, that is, everyone around you or that you hang out with or listen to is parroting the same disinformation, it *becomes your reality*. It's also the danger of trying to use a scientific methodology NOT as an attempt to find the truth, but as a marketing tool disguised as looking for the truth. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 2:10 PM, Peter wrote: The latest round of tag team wrestling on FFL. Soon Irmeli and I will jump in for you! Since Barry disappeared, it was inevitable. Yeah, Vaj, you just couldn't bear to see me go un-bashed for any length of time. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest round of tag team wrestling on FFL. Soon Irmeli and I will jump in for you! Sorry if it offends you, Peter, but there's entirely too much indiscriminate bashing with the scornful TB label of those who don't happen to buy into every half-baked criticism of MMY and the TMO. Usually I let it pass, but Vaj's comments were too egregiously, outrageously false. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
On Nov 9, 2005, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 2:10 PM, Peter wrote: The latest round of tag team wrestling on FFL. Soon Irmeli and I will jump in for you! Since Barry disappeared, it was inevitable. Yeah, Vaj, you just couldn't bear to see me go un-bashed for any length of time. Now I'm bashing you? Get a sense of humor while they're still free...I notice how you deliberately clipped out the part about the Jello! gasp To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
Vaj commented: This is a constant in the TB mentality: *sound* like you know what you are talking about and hope that if you repeat it many times, people will believe you. I find this to be a rather common phenom in movement type and it is a subtle and continuous form of disinformation. When it becomes pervasive, that is, everyone around you or that you hang out with or listen to is parroting the same disinformation, it *becomes your reality*. It's also the danger of trying to use a scientific methodology NOT as an attempt to find the truth, but as a marketing tool disguised as looking for the truth. Sounds like politicians and political parties. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
It doesn't offend me, Judy. I recognize that it has much more importance for the participants then anyone else. And I certainly have done the same thing many times especially with Akasha and most recently with Irmeli. I was attemting to inject a little levity into the situation. --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest round of tag team wrestling on FFL. Soon Irmeli and I will jump in for you! Sorry if it offends you, Peter, but there's entirely too much indiscriminate bashing with the scornful TB label of those who don't happen to buy into every half-baked criticism of MMY and the TMO. Usually I let it pass, but Vaj's comments were too egregiously, outrageously false. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] DC Districts
on 11/9/05 1:11 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 7 districts in DC -- and I have found some annual crime data for them. Does anyone know which district the ME facilities were located? We were spread around in different facilities. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
On Nov 9, 2005, at 2:46 PM, tazarmfune wrote:Vaj commented: This is a constant in the TB mentality: *sound* like you know what you are talking about and hope that if you repeat it many times, people will believe you. I find this to be a rather common phenom in movement type and it is a subtle and continuous form of disinformation. When it becomes pervasive, that is, everyone around you or that you hang out with or listen to is parroting the same disinformation, it *becomes your reality*. It's also the danger of trying to use a scientific methodology NOT as an attempt to find the truth, but as a marketing tool disguised as looking for the truth. Sounds like politicians and political parties. or a cult or just real life in samsara. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: DC Districts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/9/05 1:11 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 7 districts in DC -- and I have found some annual crime data for them. Does anyone know which district the ME facilities were located? We were spread around in different facilities. Across all seven districts? I thought it was mainly one big hotel. Or am I thinking of a different project. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Abbreivations used at FFL
--- ultrarishi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, good people. I'm a new member/lurker here and really enjoy the banter, most of which is good natured, sometimes mean spirited, but always challenging. I've figured out most of the abbreviations used here, but I can't figure out what TB stands for. I know it's in relationship to TMO sycophants, but what are the initials for? Thanks in advance. Now where did I leave that latte... Hey, tell us about yourself (or lack thereof) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest round of tag team wrestling on FFL. Soon Irmeli and I will jump in for you! Also, can you guys adopt wrestler-type nicknames, like these: http://www.angelfire.com/fl3/jasonsite/nicknames.html It'll be a Spiritual Smackdown!!! --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 1:42 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 1:05 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 12:19 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:29 AM, authfriend wrote: I'm also on the record many times as saying that even if the ME *does* exist, I don't think it can be conclusively demonstrated scientifically. Well, two comments. How about an apology for grossly misrepresenting my position? Apologize for your hallucinations? Unlikely. Sez Vaj, continuing grossly and quite deliberately to misrepresent. And he complains about the purported dishonesty of Maharishi and the TMO... Can you say hypocrite? Of course it's honest. It's honest because I've never even discussed your position in this regard. More misrepresentation. On Nov 8, 2005, at 10:54 PM, akasha_108 wrote: You don't see how possibly a single well constructed model would control for weather, sociological and crime-factor variabes, and the intervention variable, ALL AT THE SAME TIME.? If you don't understand this, then what can I say. You have no background or knowledge of regression, ARIMA and modeling. Why you are trying to interject points with no basis in knowledge is astounding. Vaj commented: This is a constant in the TB mentality: *sound* like you know what you are talking about and hope that if you repeat it many times, people will believe you. I find this to be a rather common phenom in movement type and it is a subtle and continuous form of disinformation. When it becomes pervasive, that is, everyone around you or that you hang out with or listen to is parroting the same disinformation, it *becomes your reality*. It's also the danger of trying to use a scientific methodology NOT as an attempt to find the truth, but as a marketing tool disguised as looking for the truth. - Akasha, as you know, was responding to something I had said, hence your comment appeared designed to include me as one of the TBs you proceeded to viciously attack. If you would like to state for the record that you did not mean to imply that I was included in those you were so insultingly characterizing, fine, I'll accept that. If not, I stand by my assertion that you were deliberately and offensively misrepresenting my position. sigh This email was not addressed to you nor was it meant to specifically refer to you. It's not all about you Judy. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --- -~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: DC Districts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 7 districts in DC -- and I have found some annual crime data for them. Does anyone know which district the ME facilities were located? Haven't been following this too closely, but if you are talking about the 93 course it was spread all over the city, but lots of 'taters were based at the [Omni] Shoreham Hotel near Rock Creek Park in NW DC. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The Akasha Effect -- Huge Decrease in Crime in DC, Much Larger the ME
In looking at the crime data, I recalled that I lived at the DC center for a month or two in 1972. Looking at the figures, the drop in crime for that year was much greater than in 1993 (the DC project) -- or at least the rise in crime was significantly less. And 1972 was a very hot summer. So while the stats are not temperature adjusted, I believe the adjustments would be similar for each year. So this is just an example of why control variables other than temperature are critical to include in the PRIMARY model and analysis -- which the DC study did not do. Otherwise any nut can suggest and demonstrate spurious correlations that LOOK imppressive -- until one questions the analysis (lack of control variables in the primary analysis). Annual Change in crime, Washington DC 19721993 Violent crime total -22.4% 3.1% Murder / nn Manslaughter-11.7% 4.4% Forcible rape15.0% 53.6% Robbery -31.6% -2.9% Aggravated assault -2.8% 7.1% Property crime total-15.9% 3.1% Burglary-32.6% 9.6% Larceny-theft1.7% 4.7% Motor vehicle theft -34.0% -9.9% Its interestng to note that crime in most categories rose in 1993 - the year of the DC study. The two that fell, were minor decreases. And robbery was up over 50%. While the DC study may have only looked at violent crime, that was their mandate or limitation. There is no reason that I know of why the ME, in theory, should not effect all crimes. If anything, at face value (uncontrolled for other factors) crime rose across the board when the ME was implemeted. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: DC Districts
on 11/9/05 1:56 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/9/05 1:11 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 7 districts in DC -- and I have found some annual crime data for them. Does anyone know which district the ME facilities were located? We were spread around in different facilities. Across all seven districts? Not all seven, but several. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: DC Districts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/9/05 1:56 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/9/05 1:11 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 7 districts in DC -- and I have found some annual crime data for them. Does anyone know which district the ME facilities were located? We were spread around in different facilities. Across all seven districts? do you know whcih ones? If I got you a district map, could you guestimate #S in each? Not all seven, but several. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the DC study
The course started in June, actually. I was on CCP from April 26 to June 26, spring and but a few days of summer. I was planning to stay all summer, but went back to Boston with the idea to either go to DC or come back to ff later on when the crowds were back. My first time in ff in four years and half the people were leaving. And I never heard a thing about pundits at the Manhattan center. You hear a lot when you're on CCP in ff, no doubt about that. It was before the days of FFL, too! That's true, but he also had a pretty good statistical rationale as to why the increased homicides didn't invalidate the hypothesis. I suppose it's possible he's even right about this, to some extent. But hasn't the TMO long claimed it could stop things such as today's suicide bombings, when the bombers are just as irrational? --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then it was the following year that the pundits were bought and paid for but didn't come. You were right, originally, LB. There was plenty of talk of pundits coming. I was doing on-campus CCP at MUM that spring and saw plenty of fellow CCPers and MUM friends leave for the DC course. The course started in June, actually. The pundits were used as another carrot to motivate them all to go, in typical movement style. For the record, there was nothing in the study protocols that were announced in advance, or any of the literature or PR the movement put out on the study, about pundits attending. And I never heard a thing about pundits at the Manhattan center. I remember hearing from someone on my course how John Farley had just called from DC and said there were only 800 there, even while the movement was claiming 2000. People continued to arrive throughout the course. They got the numbers they wanted when it was about halfway through. Actually they used the rising attendance over the course period to strengthen the statistical analysis. The pundits were referred to as the vanishing pundits and it was quickly becoming a joke even back then. You were asking about the homicides and the swimming pool. The homicide rate did go up during the course. Hagelin's excuse was that the kind of people who commit crimes like that are too angered and irrational to be influenced by extra coherence. That's true, but he also had a pretty good statistical rationale as to why the increased homicides didn't invalidate the hypothesis. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: DC Districts
Rick, Really? I was there at CNL, on and off for about 3 years, and then lived in DC for a number of years as well, and all I remember was that one and the Senate. Sal On Nov 9, 2005, at 2:40 PM, Rick Archer wrote: >> We were spread around in different facilities. > > > Across all seven districts? Not all seven, but several.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: DC Districts
on 11/9/05 2:43 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/9/05 1:56 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/9/05 1:11 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 7 districts in DC -- and I have found some annual crime data for them. Does anyone know which district the ME facilities were located? We were spread around in different facilities. Across all seven districts? do you know whcih ones? If I got you a district map, could you guestimate #S in each? Someone said a lot of people were in the Shoreham. I was in the northern campus of a college for the deaf. I think it was Galludet. Not far from Silver Spring. Another group was in their larger campus. Perhaps if others respond like this, you'll get an idea where everyone was. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] lotsa MUM applicants being shot down for visas
it's not just poor pundits who can't get to MUM's Fairfield campus: http://www.mum.edu/TheReview 9Nov2005 Students in the accounting program are admitted twice a year. Ms. Sutherland said that it's a challenge for international students to get visas for new programs, and that now that the various embassies are more familiar with these two new programs, it is likely that the rate of visa approvals will rise. Both programs had dozens of highly qualified applicants whose visas were denied. As with the Computer Professionals Program, the students will spend 6 to 10 months on campus and then will be placed in paid internships around the country. They will finish their degrees via distance education over a period of up to two years. Money earned in their internship positions supports them while repaying student loans. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: DC Districts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/9/05 2:43 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/9/05 1:56 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/9/05 1:11 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 7 districts in DC -- and I have found some annual crime data for them. Does anyone know which district the ME facilities were located? We were spread around in different facilities. Across all seven districts? do you know whcih ones? If I got you a district map, could you guestimate #S in each? Someone said a lot of people were in the Shoreham. I was in the northern campus of a college for the deaf. I think it was Galludet. Not far from Silver Spring. Another group was in their larger campus. Perhaps if others respond like this, you'll get an idea where everyone was. I was on the main University of Maryland campus just outside DC in College Park, with about 80 others. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Malloy's reelection
Fairfield Residents I notice that Ed got 800+ votes. This seems like a very small number of people voting. Knowing it is a small town, is the number of voters so low because it was an incumbent ru or before we started entering local politics was the number of locals voting strictly for locals much higher. KH --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's not just poor pundits who can't get to MUM's Fairfield campus: http://www.mum.edu/TheReview 9Nov2005 Students in the accounting program are admitted twice a year. Ms. Sutherland said that it's a challenge for international students to get visas for new programs, and that now that the various embassies are more familiar with these two new programs, it is likely that the rate of visa approvals will rise. Both programs had dozens of highly qualified applicants whose visas were denied. As with the Computer Professionals Program, the students will spend 6 to 10 months on campus and then will be placed in paid internships around the country. They will finish their degrees via distance education over a period of up to two years. Money earned in their internship positions supports them while repaying student loans. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Malloy's reelection
on 11/9/05 3:39 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fairfield Residents I notice that Ed got 800+ votes. This seems like a very small number of people voting. Knowing it is a small town, is the number of voters so low because it was an incumbent ru or before we started entering local politics was the number of locals voting strictly for locals much higher. He ran unopposed. A lot of people didn't bother to go and vote. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Malloy's reelection
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/9/05 3:39 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fairfield Residents I notice that Ed got 800+ votes. This seems like a very small number of people voting. Knowing it is a small town, is the number of voters so low because it was an incumbent ru or before we started entering local politics was the number of locals voting strictly for locals much higher. He ran unopposed. A lot of people didn't bother to go and vote. Speaking of elections, *all* of Arnie's special election slate was defeated yesterday. Feels almost like a democracy again over here! He had said that if the legislature wouldn't futher weaken the unions, give him absolute power over the budget, and consolidate legislative power into the hands of a few, he'd take it to the people. Well he did, and got his butt kicked... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] WTF award for today...
CDC May Distribute 1918 Killer Flu AP - Wed Nov 9, 1:18 PM ET ATLANTA - Federal scientists say they will consider requests to ship the recently recreated 1918 killer flu virus to select U.S. research labs. There are 300 non-government research labs registered to work with deadly germs like the Spanish flu, which killed millions of people worldwide. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will consider requests for samples from those labs on a case-by-case basis, CDC spokesman Von Roebuck said Wednesday. Sure would be a hop, skip and a jump to martial law if they had an 'accident'... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip That's true, but he also had a pretty good statistical rationale as to why the increased homicides didn't invalidate the hypothesis. I suppose it's possible he's even right about this, to some extent. But hasn't the TMO long claimed it could stop things such as today's suicide bombings, when the bombers are just as irrational? Maybe not in eight weeks... There may be a difference in the irrationality quotient when you believe you're killing for a greater cause, and that you will become an honored martyr with a guaranteed place in paradise. At least it's a higher-level irrationality than, say, killing a member of a rival gang. Also, similarly to the statistical significance of homicide in relation to violent crime in general, not all that many people are killed by suicide bombers in relation to the number killed in full- scale war. I've been reading about a recent study that has determined there's been a substantial decline in actual warfare since the fall of the Soviet Union. We may tend to lose sight of the big picture when we focus on the threat of terrorism. It's horrible, but in terms of people killed and amount of destruction of property and resources, it's relatively insignificant compared to war. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: the DC study
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip That's true, but he also had a pretty good statistical rationale as to why the increased homicides didn't invalidate the hypothesis. I suppose it's possible he's even right about this, to some extent. But hasn't the TMO long claimed it could stop things such as today's suicide bombings, when the bombers are just as irrational? Maybe not in eight weeks... There may be a difference in the irrationality quotient when you believe you're killing for a greater cause, and that you will become an honored martyr with a guaranteed place in paradise. At least it's a higher-level irrationality than, say, killing a member of a rival gang. Also, similarly to the statistical significance of homicide in relation to violent crime in general, not all that many people are killed by suicide bombers in relation to the number killed in full- scale war. I've been reading about a recent study that has determined there's been a substantial decline in actual warfare since the fall of the Soviet Union. We may tend to lose sight of the big picture when we focus on the threat of terrorism. It's horrible, but in terms of people killed and amount of destruction of property and resources, it's relatively insignificant compared to war. I find it interesting that there was an earlier post about deeksha or something, where the crown energy could apparently be brought forth via an outside 'technician', and yet with willing and devoted participants, even they didn't get a big 'wow factor' immediately. And these were people that were ready and willing for a spiritual influence, and right in proximity of someone who could apparently facilitate this energy transfer, or eruption. So this brings into question the real world mechanics of the ME effect. I don't doubt that it is theoretically possible given TM group dynamics, and the rationale I recall makes sense. Its just that I'm not sure enough attention is being paid to the countervailing force of our individual karmas and/or intentions, and whether such a powerful force within each of us can actually be 100% affected by a subtle external influence? aka you can lead a horse to water... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Two questions for the abortion-lovers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) How do you feel about people who abort fetuses that are identified as females because they want male babies? Should it be legal to do so? 2) In the not too distant future, the autism gene will be identified and, through an examination of the amniotic fluid, one will be able to identify whether a fetus has the autism gene. Many of these thus-identified fetuses will then be aborted. Do you support this (keep in mind that Vladimir Nabokov, Stephen spielberg, Bill Gates, and Albert Einstein have all been either suspected of or diagnosed with some form of autism)? All of you who want to control the act of a woman's abortion are missing the point IMO. It is a personal decision that a woman makes. You or me or anybody else has no business making that decision, unless we are female, and it is our abortion. So, please have all the opinions you want on the world's 'shoulds' and 'shoud nots'. However, unless it is your fetus, you don't have the fundamental right to make the decision on abortion for someone else, whatever their motives may be. At http://www.nas.orh.uk, Autism is defined as: A lifelong developmental disability that affects the way a person communicates and relates to people around them. Children and adults with autism are unable to relate to others in a meaningful way. Their ability to develop friendships is impaired, as is their capacity to understand other people's feelings. All people with autism have impairments in social interactions, social communication and imagination. This is referred to as the triad of impairments. If you imagine that Nabokov, Speilberg, Einstein and Bill Gates come under this definition, you must be off your trolly. Uns. I guess then that others are alos off their trolly: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7899821/ http://imdb.com/name/nm229/bio http://rarediseases.about.com/cs/aspergersyndrome/a/041003.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Akasha Effect -- Huge Decrease in Crime in DC, Much Larger the ME
akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In looking at the crime data, I recalled that I lived at the DC centerfor a month or two in 1972. Looking at the figures, the drop in crimefor that year was much greater than in 1993 (the DC project) -- or atleast the rise in crime was significantly less. And 1972 was a veryhot summer. So while the stats are not temperature adjusted, I believethe adjustments would be similar for each year.So this is just an example of why control variables other thantemperature are critical to include in the PRIMARY model and analysis-- which the DC study did not do. Otherwise any nut can suggest anddemonstrate spurious correlations that LOOK imppressive -- until onequestions the analysis (lack of control variables in the primaryanalysis).Annual Change in crime, Washington DC1972 1993Violent crime total -22.4% 3.1%Murder / nn Manslaughter-11.7% 4.4%Forcible rape 15.0% 53.6%Robbery -31.6% -2.9%Aggravated assault -2.8% 7.1%Property crime total -15.9% 3.1%Burglary -32.6% 9.6%Larceny-theft 1.7% 4.7%Motor vehicle theft -34.0% -9.9%Its interestng to note that crime in most categories rose in 1993 -the year of the DC study. The two that fell, were minor decreases. Androbbery was up over 50%. While the DC study may have only looked at violent crime, that wastheir mandate or limitation. There is no reason that I know of whythe ME, in theory, should not effect all crimes. If anything, at facevalue (uncontrolled for other factors) crime rose across the boardwhen the ME was implemeted. As they say in statistical research, the effect is not very robust! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home pagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM~- To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Malloy's reelection
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/9/05 3:39 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fairfield Residents I notice that Ed got 800+ votes. This seems like a very small number of people voting. Knowing it is a small town, is the number of voters so low because it was an incumbent ru or before we started entering local politics was the number of locals voting strictly for locals much higher. He ran unopposed. A lot of people didn't bother to go and vote. Running unopposed shouldn't have that much effect on the number of people voting, asssuming there were other contests -- such as aldermen or comptrollers -- also on the ballot. Assuming the population of Fairfield to be about 10,000, 800 turning out to vote in a municipal election is probably par for the course. Municipal elections generally don't get more than a 20% turn-out whether people run opposed or unopposed. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Abbreviations used at FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/9/05 10:55 AM, ultrarishi at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, good people. I'm a new member/lurker here and really enjoy the banter, most of which is good natured, sometimes mean spirited, but always challenging. I've figured out most of the abbreviations used here, but I can't figure out what TB stands for. True Believer Totality (Brahman) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Malloy's reelection
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fairfield Residents I notice that Ed got 800+ votes. This seems like a very small number of people voting. Knowing it is a small town, is the number of voters so low because it was an incumbent ru or before we started entering local politics was the number of locals voting strictly for locals much higher. KH from http://www.ffledger.com a coupla days ago: Malloy is running unopposed for a third term in Tuesday's election and points to the retention of Fairfield's younger residents as a substantial priority. the turnout was low because Malloy was running unopposed -- he got what, 3 or 4 thousand last time? I did find it interesting that neither of Malloy's kids opted to attend MUM: He has been married to his wife, Vicki, for 23 years. Their daughter, Kelli, is an interior design student in Los Angeles, and their son, Justin, attends Whitter College in California. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's not just poor pundits who can't get to MUM's Fairfield campus: http://www.mum.edu/TheReview 9Nov2005 Students in the accounting program are admitted twice a year. Ms. Sutherland said that it's a challenge for international students to get visas for new programs, and that now that the various embassies are more familiar with these two new programs, it is likely that the rate of visa approvals will rise. Both programs had dozens of highly qualified applicants whose visas were denied. As with the Computer Professionals Program, the students will spend 6 to 10 months on campus and then will be placed in paid internships around the country. They will finish their degrees via distance education over a period of up to two years. Money earned in their internship positions supports them while repaying student loans. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Abbreviations used at FFL
On Nov 9, 2005, at 8:00 PM, bbrigante wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/9/05 10:55 AM, ultrarishi at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, good people. I'm a new member/lurker here and really enjoy the banter, most of which is good natured, sometimes mean spirited, but always challenging. I've figured out most of the abbreviations used here, but I can't figure out what TB stands for. True Believer Totality (Brahman) Truly Brainwashed Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: DC Districts
At least 2 of those are in the NW district. Gallaudet may be in Silver Spring. On Nov 9, 2005, at 3:07 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Someone said a lot of people were in the Shoreham. I was in the northern campus of a college for the deaf. I think it was Galludet. Not far from Silver Spring. Another group was in their larger campus. Perhaps if others respond like this, you'll get an idea where everyone was.
[FairfieldLife] Annual Regression Model of DC ME Project -- Interesting Results
I worked a bit to develop a regression model for annual violent crime data in DC. I sought to create a core model that estimated and accounted for the basic variations in annual violent crime. Once this was done, I added ME variables for the intervention year, 1993, plus lagged ME variables to test if there is a continuing effect of the ME in subsequent years. For the core model I tested if the non-violent aka personal crimes (PC) were significant in explaining variations in violent crimes. Both in the current year, and also lagged variables, to see if personal crimes affected violent crimes in subsequent years. I hypothesized that these PCs could be correlated to strong control variables such as weather, police on the street, LE funding -- but which I have not yet aquired. This correlation hypothesis makes sense in that PC variables should also go up in hot weather and down with increased police and LE $. (And in regression, a variable that is correlated to a good control (independent) variable can be an effective replacement for the actual control variable.) And I pulled down 30 or so national economic variables -- not ideal, but the best I have at the moment -- no DC specific control data yet. This national economic variables should correlate, to a degree, with specific DC economic data, so it is a reasonable first step. I found a five variable model with a fairly good fit (1964-2003) with an adjusted R^2 of .89. That means the model explains 89% of the variation in violent crime. And each variable was statistically significant -- the t-values for each var was 2, meaning the is less than a 5% chance that the variable's contribution is just a fluke, a random chance effect. Several other diagnostics were run: the durbin-watson stat was good, showing that the model did not have undue levels of autocorrelation (variables were not correlated to their previous values -- t-1, t-2, etc.) And there was low correlation between independent variables, called non-collinearity -- an important characteristic for models to have. Another diagnostic, hetroscadasticity was mild. So generally, for a quick model, it was fairly strong. In the below table, for years 1990-2003 you can see the actual annual changes in violent crime in DC in the first column, and the estimated or predicted series from the model in the second column. As you can see, it generally rises and falls in synch with the actual crime data. Having a good core model as a baseline, I then added some ME variables. First 3 variables -- one for the intervention year, and two for subsequent years, to see if there were continuing effects. And then another model with 5 ME variables -- for the test year and 4 subsequent years. The ME effects were interesting. Their effect in the model was to show about a 4% increase in violent crime from the ME in the test year, and then a continuing decreasing crime impact of about 5% in the next 2-4 years. The hypothesis could be that in the intervention ME year, things are stirred up in the collective consciousness -- social unstressing so to speak, and then good effects emerge in the subsequent years. However, the significance of the ME variables was weak. There is a 20-50% chance that they are having no more impact than random chance. It could jsut be the abortion effect we have discussed (per Levitt) or other untested factors. Better DC specific data, more economic and demographic and weather data, and the acquistion of monthly data should shed light on this and determine better if there is a significant ME effect that can be demonstrated by this type of analysis. For now, its an interesting and thought-provoking result. Haiglin and all may have been looking at the wrong thing -- current ME effects, instead of where the action may really be --- future effects. That is, ME may have its effect via long-term structural changes in collective consciousness, not immediate ones -- which actually may be negative (washing machine effect, perhaps). Actual - Predicted No ME ME 3 ME 5 199014.8% 12.3% 12.0% 7.8% 1991-0.2% 1.6%1.4%4.4% 199215.5% 4.5%4.5%9.6% 19933.1%-2.0% 3.1%4.9% 1994-8.9% -6.2% -8.9% -10.6% 19950.0%6.3%0.0%0.0% 1996-7.2% -2.6% -2.6% -0.7% 1997-18.0% -15.7% -16.0% -11.1% 1998-15.1% -12.6% -12.6% -7.4% 1999-5.3% -8.2% -8.1% -6.6% 2000-7.4% -5.6% -5.6% -6.1% 200115.2% 8.2%8.1%8.0% 2002-5.7% -0.5% -0.6% 8.2% 2003-1.8% 0.0%-0.1% -7.5% -- Estimated Independent Variables I Vars Beta Std. Error t-value Sig LAR 0.146493072 0.086854908 1.68664126 0.101712298 ROB 0.540438633 0.054472023 9.92139825 3.86814E-11 MT-20.118127037 0.05135057 2.300403597 0.028316925 UNEI0.029748611 0.020410475 1.457516846 0.155030356
[FairfieldLife] Re: Annual Regression Model of DC ME Project -- Interesting Results
Another try at the tables Actual - Predicted No ME ME 3 ME 5 1990 14.8%12.3% 12.0%7.8% 1991 -0.2% 1.6% 1.4%4.4% 1992 15.5% 4.5% 4.5%9.6% 1993 3.1%-2.0% 3.1%4.9% 1994 -8.9%-6.2% -8.9% -10.6% 1995 0.0% 6.3% 0.0%0.0% 1996 -7.2%-2.6% -2.6% -0.7% 1997 -18.0% -15.7%-16.0% -11.1% 1998 -15.1% -12.6%-12.6% -7.4% 1999 -5.3%-8.2% -8.1% -6.6% 2000 -7.4%-5.6% -5.6% -6.1% 2001 15.2% 8.2% 8.1%8.0% 2002 -5.7%-0.5% -0.6%8.2% 2003 -1.8% 0.0% -0.1% -7.5% -- Estimated Independent Variables I Vars Beta Std. Error t-value Sig LAR0.146490.086 1.6866 0.10171 ROB0.540430.054 9.9213 3.86814E-11 MT-2 0.118120.051 2.3004 0.02831 UNEI 0.029740.020 1.4575 0.15503 ME 0.041840.049 0.8468 0.40358 ME-1 -0.035630.0502 -0.7087 0.48376 ME-2 -0.067910.0505 -1.3423 0.18922 ME3 -0.053250.0492 -1.0813 0.28790 ME4 -0.038370.0539 -0.7114 0.48213 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
