[FairfieldLife] Re: Rudraksha Mala Beads

[cardemaister]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bdadvaitin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> These beads were made for wearing and that's just what 
> they'll do...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] When one wears them beads, they wear!


> One of these days these beads are gonna bliss you right
> on through
> 
> Hope so.  I am looking to purchase a strand, probably online.
> Can anyone recommend a site that offers quality beads.
> Have heard there are a lot of fake ones abound.
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Old Song

[jyouells2000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > When things get hot
> > > the Bushies they trot
> > > out Osama Bin Laden.
> > 
> > My impression from the news is that the recent Osama Bin Laden
> > audiotape first aired on al-Jazeera TV. Are you saying that al-Jazeera
> > is a BushCo political tool?
> > 
> > Alex
> >
> +++ One site I was reading this week pointed out that Bin Lousey's
> operation was a US creation in the first place-have to look back a few
> administrations to find the details.
>   It seems that sometimes the truth is so far fetched that you will
> have a hard time to get anyone to believe it.  N.
>

I believe we, the US, supported the Mujahadien (Osama)against the
Russians in Afganistan. Later many Mujahadien became Alkieda (sp?).

JohnY





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Loan for TM

[jyouells2000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> It's been a while since I've done this, but my calculator 
> is darn smart, so let's see what we get:
> 
> Loan: US $2,500
> Payment: $50/mo.
> 
> Interest rates:
>Prime rate on 19 Jan 06: 7.25%
>Excellent credit: 7.25 + 0.375 = 7.63%
>Good credit: 7.25 + 2 = 9.25%
>Fair credit: 7.25 + 4 = 11.25%
> 
> Term and total amount paid, assuming interest compounded monthly:
> 
>Excellent credit: 61 months of payments for a total of $3,050
>Good credit: 64 months for payments totaling $3,200
>Fair credit: 68 months for a total of $3,400
> 
> I guess that's one way to keep people meditating 
> regularly: remind them every month that they learned.
> 
> > CitiAssist, offered by Citybank, now provides educational loans
for this
> > 2-credit non-degree course entitled The Transcendental Meditation
Program:
> > Developing Total Brain Potential. The course tuition is $2,500 and
> > CitiAssist requires a minimum payment of $50/month. This means the
repayment
> > will be completed in 5-6 years based on current rates. The rate
floats with
> > the prime rate, and depends on the credit status of the borrower (or
> > co-signer if applicable).
> > ·  excellent credit: prime + 0.375%
> > ·  good: prime + 1.0-2.0%
> > ·  fair: prime + 3.0-4.0%
> > Since prime is now 7%, the current CitiAssist rate ranges from
7.375 to 11%
>

If they learn the TM-Sidhi's Program, do they get frequent flier miles ? 








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[FairfieldLife] Fwd: frm Raymond

[Raymond Prohs]

Hello luvs...
This was forwarded to me by a friend.
It's just a midday hug-and-kiss. Be well.
Enjoy...always,
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[FairfieldLife] Re: rare quotations about Guru Dev from MMY

[a_non_moose_ff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jan 19, 2006, at 8:06 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> 
> > What is "prarabdha"?

Its the type of karma that is shown in your joytish chart. It can be
i) weak (trivial), ii) medium -- influencable by yagyas and modifying
actions, iii) strong -- hard to modify or avert.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: rare quotations about Guru Dev from MMY

[a_non_moose_ff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> ---"no longer able to generate future bodies"??? Buddhism disagrees
> with this. Buddhas can do what they want, when and where.
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The vasanas, being "untied" or like a roasted seed, no longer have the
"curse" of creating new bodies -- that is they no longer remain bound
in cycle of birth and death.

This does not preclude some higher elements of volition/nature
supporting creation of new "karmic free" bodies.






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[FairfieldLife] Featuring Robert Adams, a Neo-Advaitin

[matrixmonitor]

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(supposedly spontaneously became Enlightened as a child through the
influence of Ramana Maharshi). Adams died a few years ago.  Lived in
L.A. and Sedona, AZ among other places.
http://itisnotreal.com/

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Old Song

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > When things get hot
> > the Bushies they trot
> > out Osama Bin Laden.
> 
> My impression from the news is that the recent Osama Bin Laden
> audiotape first aired on al-Jazeera TV. Are you saying that al-Jazeera
> is a BushCo political tool?
> 
> Alex
>
+++ One site I was reading this week pointed out that Bin Lousey's
operation was a US creation in the first place-have to look back a few
administrations to find the details.
  It seems that sometimes the truth is so far fetched that you will
have a hard time to get anyone to believe it.  N.






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[FairfieldLife] Laminaria japonica, anti-cancer seavegetable.

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[FairfieldLife] Hang up on groups

[johnlasher20002000]

almost every time I use a link in the groups it first tries to access
bs.server.sys...  and delays dosplaying the page.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: rare quotations about Guru Dev from MMY

[Vaj]

On Jan 19, 2006, at 9:28 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:"Gone" or purified (roasting of) of all impurities --- vasnanas. As I understand, the subtle and casual bodies are still there, and can be used for "yogi things", just as physical body remains. But the vasanas  are neutralized, no longer able to  sprout future bodies. Depends how far you go. You *can* go all the way with it--in which case in that style of realization you simply cease manifesting a form in the waking world. This style of realization is typical of the anuttara-tantras.It could well be--and now as I re-read it after your comments this appears to be what he is saying--that he is a jivan-mukti (i.e. in CC) in which case the karmic bodies are still there, sans the manamaya-kosha.One of the reasons some say that a videha-mukti is "bodiless" is because they have diminished or eliminated the subtle and causal bodies to the point where they no longer possess the karmic support to keep a physical body. Dzogchenpas point out that when you exhaust the karma of the human realm, you no longer have to manifest a form in this realm because the interdependent set of causes that keeps your "node" online in the web of mutual interrelation are gone.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: rare quotations about Guru Dev from MMY

[matrixmonitor]

---"no longer able to generate future bodies"??? Buddhism disagrees
with this. Buddhas can do what they want, when and where.
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Jan 19, 2006, at 8:06 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> > 
> > > What is "prarabdha"?
> > 
> > It's one of the types of karma. Advaita Vedanta deals with these  
> > various karmas--its all the karma that was meant to ripen in this  
> > lifetime 
> 
> And liberation does not destroy this karma. It is a done deal. It is
> still endured.  Its the "last push of cart" --lashya vidya. 
> The text expresses this poetically. "He stood at the pinnacle of human
> development and moved as only Jeeven-Muktas can move under the strong
> hold of "prarabdha". The prarabdha karma was is still there, returning
>   when its time is ripe. Yet he absorbed it, took it, in a noble
way.
>  
> >in this case--then the various bodies which block the  
> > complete state of unity are gone. 
> 
> "Gone" or purified (roasting of) of all impurities --- vasnanas. As I
> understand, the subtle and casual bodies are still there, and can be
> used for "yogi things", just as physical body remains. But the vasanas
>  are neutralized, no longer able to  sprout future bodies.
> 
> > It's basically a way of saying he  
> > was a videha-mukti, "bodiless" liberation while still in the body-- 
> > full Unity Consciousness because his vasanas, his subtle body and 
> > his causal body have all dissolved.
> 
> Same point as above.
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: rare quotations about Guru Dev from MMY

[a_non_moose_ff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jan 19, 2006, at 8:06 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> 
> > What is "prarabdha"?
> 
> It's one of the types of karma. Advaita Vedanta deals with these  
> various karmas--its all the karma that was meant to ripen in this  
> lifetime 

And liberation does not destroy this karma. It is a done deal. It is
still endured.  Its the "last push of cart" --lashya vidya. 
The text expresses this poetically. "He stood at the pinnacle of human
development and moved as only Jeeven-Muktas can move under the strong
hold of "prarabdha". The prarabdha karma was is still there, returning
  when its time is ripe. Yet he absorbed it, took it, in a noble way.
 
>in this case--then the various bodies which block the  
> complete state of unity are gone. 

"Gone" or purified (roasting of) of all impurities --- vasnanas. As I
understand, the subtle and casual bodies are still there, and can be
used for "yogi things", just as physical body remains. But the vasanas
 are neutralized, no longer able to  sprout future bodies.

> It's basically a way of saying he  
> was a videha-mukti, "bodiless" liberation while still in the body-- 
> full Unity Consciousness because his vasanas, his subtle body and 
> his causal body have all dissolved.

Same point as above.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Old Song

[feste37]

Ah, well let me be the first to surprise you. We should talk to Osama. He 
mentioned the possibility of a truce. I read the whole text of his message. He 
sounds more reasonable to me than Bush, whose terrorism has already cost 
more lives than bin Laden's has. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 1/19/06 6:05:06 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> >  When things get hot
> > the Bushies they trot
> > out Osama Bin  Laden.
> 
> My impression from the news is that the recent Osama Bin  Laden
> audiotape first aired on al-Jazeera TV. Are you saying that  al-Jazeera
> is a BushCo political  tool?
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> 
> I also thought things were going well for "The Bushies" this  week since 
> democratic leaders made absolute fools of themselves in the Senate  and 
the 
> economy keeps roaring along. Does Bush dictate to OBL when to release a  
new tape 
> and make a threat? My only surprise so far is nobody on the left has  
suggested 
> we negotiate that cease fire OBL  proposed.
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Rudraksha Mala Beads

[lurkernomore20002000]

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>
>  
> In a message dated 1/19/06 6:47:47 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> These  beads were made for wearing and that's just what 
> they'll do...
> One of  these days these beads are gonna bliss you right
> on through
> 
> Hope  so.  I am looking to purchase a strand, probably online.
> Can anyone  recommend a site that offers quality beads.
> Have heard there are a lot of  fake ones abound.
> 
> 
> 
> Do yourself a favor and save your money. But, if you must,  Gupta 
in 
> Fairfield is a good guy to buy them  from.

Rudra Joe, Rudra Joe.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rudraksha Mala Beads

[MDixon6569]

In a message dated 1/19/06 6:47:47 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
These 
  beads were made for wearing and that's just what they'll do...One of 
  these days these beads are gonna bliss you righton throughHope 
  so.  I am looking to purchase a strand, probably online.Can anyone 
  recommend a site that offers quality beads.Have heard there are a lot of 
  fake ones abound.

Do yourself a favor and save your money. But, if you must, 
Gupta in Fairfield is a good guy to buy them 
from.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: rare quotations about Guru Dev from MMY

[Vaj]

On Jan 19, 2006, at 8:06 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:What is "prarabdha"? It's one of the types of karma. Advaita Vedanta deals with these various karmas--its all the karma that was meant to ripen in this lifetime in this case--then the various bodies which block the complete state of unity are gone. It's basically a way of saying he was a videha-mukti, "bodiless" liberation while still in the body--full Unity Consciousness because his vasanas, his subtle body and his causal body have all dissolved.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Rudraksha Mala Beads

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bdadvaitin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> These beads were made for wearing and that's just what 
> they'll do...
> One of these days these beads are gonna bliss you right
> on through
> 
> Hope so.  I am looking to purchase a strand, probably online.
> Can anyone recommend a site that offers quality beads.
> Have heard there are a lot of fake ones abound.
>

Does anyone know by what mechanism Rudraksha Mala beads work? Why do 
saints wear them? Are they supposed to contain, strengthen and/or 
transform our energetic selves somehow?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: rare quotations about Guru Dev from MMY

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Extract from 'Beacon Light' - October 1955
> 
> "One unique principle of the Great sage that distinguished him 
> completely from other living, saints, was that he did not accept 
money 
> as a gift from his visitors or disciples. He was running the 
greatest 
> religious institution of Northern India at his own expense, the 
sources 
> of which were known only to himself."
> 
> "He stood at the pinnacle of human development and moved as only 
Jeeven-
> Muktas can move under the strong hold of "prarabdha". He for 
himself 
> would allow things to go on as they are ordained by the hand of 
> destiny, but His devotees have many a time changed the course of 
fate 
> of themselves and of the people. Innunerable instances can be 
counted 
> when by virtue of His Dhyanam, His devotees have wrought miracles 
> worked in the innerman and transformed the materialistic hearts of 
iron 
> into spiritual hearts of gold."
> 
> Full text at:-
> http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/sources/text/GuidingLight.htm
>
What is "prarabdha"?






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[FairfieldLife] Rudraksha Mala Beads

[bdadvaitin]

These beads were made for wearing and that's just what 
they'll do...
One of these days these beads are gonna bliss you right
on through

Hope so.  I am looking to purchase a strand, probably online.
Can anyone recommend a site that offers quality beads.
Have heard there are a lot of fake ones abound.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Loan for TM

[Patrick Gillam]

It's been a while since I've done this, but my calculator 
is darn smart, so let's see what we get:

Loan: US $2,500
Payment: $50/mo.

Interest rates:
   Prime rate on 19 Jan 06: 7.25%
   Excellent credit: 7.25 + 0.375 = 7.63%
   Good credit: 7.25 + 2 = 9.25%
   Fair credit: 7.25 + 4 = 11.25%

Term and total amount paid, assuming interest compounded monthly:

   Excellent credit: 61 months of payments for a total of $3,050
   Good credit: 64 months for payments totaling $3,200
   Fair credit: 68 months for a total of $3,400

I guess that's one way to keep people meditating 
regularly: remind them every month that they learned.

> CitiAssist, offered by Citybank, now provides educational loans for this
> 2-credit non-degree course entitled The Transcendental Meditation Program:
> Developing Total Brain Potential. The course tuition is $2,500 and
> CitiAssist requires a minimum payment of $50/month. This means the repayment
> will be completed in 5-6 years based on current rates. The rate floats with
> the prime rate, and depends on the credit status of the borrower (or
> co-signer if applicable).
> ·  excellent credit: prime + 0.375%
> ·  good: prime + 1.0-2.0%
> ·  fair: prime + 3.0-4.0%
> Since prime is now 7%, the current CitiAssist rate ranges from 7.375 to 11%





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Old Song

[MDixon6569]

In a message dated 1/19/06 6:05:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
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> 
  When things get hot> the Bushies they trot> out Osama Bin 
  Laden.My impression from the news is that the recent Osama Bin 
  Ladenaudiotape first aired on al-Jazeera TV. Are you saying that 
  al-Jazeerais a BushCo political 
tool?Alex

I also thought things were going well for "The Bushies" this 
week since democratic leaders made absolute fools of themselves in the Senate 
and the economy keeps roaring along. Does Bush dictate to OBL when to release a 
new tape and make a threat? My only surprise so far is nobody on the left has 
suggested we negotiate that cease fire OBL 
proposed.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Old Song

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> When things get hot
> the Bushies they trot
> out Osama Bin Laden.

My impression from the news is that the recent Osama Bin Laden
audiotape first aired on al-Jazeera TV. Are you saying that al-Jazeera
is a BushCo political tool?

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[FairfieldLife] Same Old Song

[Bhairitu]

When things get hot
the Bushies they trot
out Osama Bin Laden.
(chorus) Osama Bin Laden
It's nothing new
that's all they can do
with Osama Bin Laden
(chorus) Osama Bin Laden.

They seem to believe
we'll take this as fact
and that we will pass
their Unpatriot Act.

When things get hot
the Bushies they trot
out Osama Bin Laden.
(chorus) Osama Bin Laden.

Everybody sing along now!



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[FairfieldLife] rare quotations about Guru Dev from MMY

[Premanand Paul Mason]

Extract from 'Beacon Light' - October 1955

"One unique principle of the Great sage that distinguished him 
completely from other living, saints, was that he did not accept money 
as a gift from his visitors or disciples. He was running the greatest 
religious institution of Northern India at his own expense, the sources 
of which were known only to himself."

"He stood at the pinnacle of human development and moved as only Jeeven-
Muktas can move under the strong hold of "prarabdha". He for himself 
would allow things to go on as they are ordained by the hand of 
destiny, but His devotees have many a time changed the course of fate 
of themselves and of the people. Innunerable instances can be counted 
when by virtue of His Dhyanam, His devotees have wrought miracles 
worked in the innerman and transformed the materialistic hearts of iron 
into spiritual hearts of gold."

Full text at:-
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ex-EPA Chiefs Blame Bush in Global Warming

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060118/ap_on_go_ot/global_warming
> > > 
> > > WASHINGTON - Six former heads of the
> > > Environmental Protection Agency — five Republicans and one 
> > Democrat —
> > > accused the Bush administration Wednesday of neglecting global 
> > warming
> > > and other environmental problems.
> > > 
> >  
> > > All of the former administrators raised their hands when EPA's 
> > current
> > > chief, Stephen Johnson, asked whether they believe global 
warming 
> > is a
> > > real problem, and again when he asked if humans bear 
significant 
> > blame.
> > > 
> > > Agency heads during five Republican administrations, including 
the
> > > current one, criticized the Bush White House for what they 
> > described
> > > as a failure of leadership.
> > > 
> > > Defending his boss, Johnson said the current administration 
has 
> > spent
> > > $20 billion on research and technology to combat climate 
change 
> > after
> > > President Bush rejected mandatory controls on carbon dioxide, 
the
> > > chief gas blamed for trapping heat in the atmosphere like a 
> > greenhouse.
> > 
> > 
> > Yeah, the $20 billion was probably spent like this:
> > 
> > $19,999,999,976 split evenly into the Big Six (guesstimating...) 
oil 
> > company CEOs' bank accounts.
> > $24 remaining for each of the CEOs to replace one of their car's 
air 
> > filters...
> 
> 
> But you see Bush and the oil CEOs as your SELF, as Brahman, as 
bliss
> 24/7, right Jim?
>

Yes- Excellent question! Really good stuff! Thanks 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ex-EPA Chiefs Blame Bush in Global Warming

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wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060118/ap_on_go_ot/global_warming
> > 
> > WASHINGTON - Six former heads of the
> > Environmental Protection Agency — five Republicans and one 
> Democrat —
> > accused the Bush administration Wednesday of neglecting global 
> warming
> > and other environmental problems.
> > 
>  
> > All of the former administrators raised their hands when EPA's 
> current
> > chief, Stephen Johnson, asked whether they believe global warming 
> is a
> > real problem, and again when he asked if humans bear significant 
> blame.
> > 
> > Agency heads during five Republican administrations, including the
> > current one, criticized the Bush White House for what they 
> described
> > as a failure of leadership.
> > 
> > Defending his boss, Johnson said the current administration has 
> spent
> > $20 billion on research and technology to combat climate change 
> after
> > President Bush rejected mandatory controls on carbon dioxide, the
> > chief gas blamed for trapping heat in the atmosphere like a 
> greenhouse.
> 
> 
> Yeah, the $20 billion was probably spent like this:
> 
> $19,999,999,976 split evenly into the Big Six (guesstimating...) oil 
> company CEOs' bank accounts.
> $24 remaining for each of the CEOs to replace one of their car's air 
> filters...


But you see Bush and the oil CEOs as your SELF, as Brahman, as bliss
24/7, right Jim?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ex-EPA Chiefs Blame Bush in Global Warming

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060118/ap_on_go_ot/global_warming
> 
> WASHINGTON - Six former heads of the
> Environmental Protection Agency — five Republicans and one 
Democrat —
> accused the Bush administration Wednesday of neglecting global 
warming
> and other environmental problems.
> 
 
> All of the former administrators raised their hands when EPA's 
current
> chief, Stephen Johnson, asked whether they believe global warming 
is a
> real problem, and again when he asked if humans bear significant 
blame.
> 
> Agency heads during five Republican administrations, including the
> current one, criticized the Bush White House for what they 
described
> as a failure of leadership.
> 
> Defending his boss, Johnson said the current administration has 
spent
> $20 billion on research and technology to combat climate change 
after
> President Bush rejected mandatory controls on carbon dioxide, the
> chief gas blamed for trapping heat in the atmosphere like a 
greenhouse.


Yeah, the $20 billion was probably spent like this:

$19,999,999,976 split evenly into the Big Six (guesstimating...) oil 
company CEOs' bank accounts.
$24 remaining for each of the CEOs to replace one of their car's air 
filters...

 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

[jim_flanegin]

--- In 
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> TorquiseB writes:
> It's back to the olde "ends justify the means"
> issue.  You think they do; I think that the means
> *are* the end, and that if one attempts to do 
> something ethical by acting unethically, then 
> one deserves the karmas one gets.  Since this
> seems to be your chosen path in life, I wish
> you well with the karmas such an approach 
> create...
> 
> Tom T:
> From the Alistair Shearer Treanlation of Patanjali.
> Chapter 2 vs 36. When we are established in truthfulness, action
> accomplishes its desired end.
> C2 vs 37. When we are firmly established in integrity, all riches
> present themselves freely.
> C2 vs 39. When we are established in non-attachment, the nature and
> purpose of existence is understood.
> Tom T
>
Hi Tom, Thanks for once again drawing a perfect circle of invisible 
string. You've reminded me again to find a copy of the Alistair 
Shearer Translation of Patanjali






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it

[Richard J. Williams]

> > from what I've read, neither you nor any of the other 
> > current informers have ever been within a thousand miles 
> > of a Maharishi Golden dome, much less ever planning a 
> > visit to Fairfield, Iowa!
> >
uns_tressor wrote: 
> He's trying to convert us all his his
> chosen variant of Buddhism.
>
So, how close to a Maharishi Golden dome have you been?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it

[Richard J. Williams]

jstein wrote: 
> Translation: Barry doesn't like it when I call
> attention to his deliberate misstatements.
>
Translation: Judy doesn't like it when I call attention to her 
deliberate misstatements.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it

[Richard J. Williams]

jstein wrote:
> For the record, Barry did indeed write what I claimed;
> but I didn't claim it was a quote (it was a close
> paraphrase, without quote marks), so Barry crammed two
> deliberate misrepresentations into one sentence.
> 
So, Mr. Wright wanted to make you feel bad and he had the desire to to 
act on it and now he wants to pretend it's not the case. So, we are 
agreed, Barry is dishonest and hypocritical. 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it

[Richard J. Williams]

TurquoiseB wrote:
> No he didn't, but for the record, Barry doesn't
> really care whether Judy lives or dies, much
> less what she claims when she's on one of her
> periodic cyberstalking crusades. 
> 
So, Mr. Wright you wanted to make me and Judy feel bad and you had the 
desire to to act on it and now you want to pretend it's not the case. 
So, you are being dishonest and hypocritical, just like Judy said. 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Op-Ed on Spiritual Pollution of High-Density Hog Farms

[anonyff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 1/18/06 4:43 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> 
> >> on 1/17/06 11:16 AM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> 
> >>> At a time when the nation is highly influenced by
> >>> religiously conservative politicians, I'm surprised
> >>> more people don't take the tack Steven Druker
> >>> does below: ask these people to reconcile their
> >>> policies with their religious beliefs.
> >>> 
> >>> For example, I've wondered why the Christians
> >>> among the DC Power Elite don't lead the nation
> >>> in forgiving terrorists for crimes committed in the
> >>> name of Islam. 
> >> 
> >> Most Christians are looking forward to watching God rip the guts
> >> out of non-Christians
> > 
> > Er, no, not "most Christians," Patrick.
> 
> It was I who said that. I get the impression that the majority of
> Christians, at least in this country, are fundamentalists, and most
of them
> buy into the Judgment Day thing, which implies that they don't expect a
> picnic is in store for the "unsaved." Maybe they're not the
majority, but
> just make the most noise. Please clarify my understanding of the
> demographics.
>

Glad you clarified that because the word "most" bothered me too. 
Maybe the loudest have this vengeful attitude, but attributing it to
"most" seems just a bit Pall-ish, if you know what I mean.

Among those who are looking forward to this retribution though, I
wonder how many are men.  I'm thinking of a study just done, which
seems to show that "While women showed signs of empathy with people
they both liked and disliked, men appeared to enjoy pain being
inflicted on their foes".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4620922.stm
and
http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/060118_empathy_revenge.html

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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
> > > > > > not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
> > > > > > tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
> > > > > > is gone.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think it tells us that he has no spine, and
> > > > > is not likely to develop one.
> > > > 
> > > > It might, or it might not.  If he actually does want
> > > > to take over the movement after MMY's death, it
> > > > wouldn't make a lot of sense for him to create a ruckus
> > > > at this point and kill his chances of doing so.
> > > 
> > > Yes, that's the approach someone without a spine
> > > would take, all right.
> > 
> > Not if his plan is to remake the movement once
> > MMY dies.
> 
> We must agree to disagree. In my book, someone who
> wanted to remake the TM movement would not do so
> by pretending to go along with its current line
> of bullshit.

That isn't what *you* would do, you mean.

 If you consider that ethical, I suggest
> that it says a lot about your own ethics.

Hmm, I don't believe I said anything about
ethics, did I?  I believe you made that up.

> > Sometimes it takes more spine to go along with
> > something and just absorb the scorn for the sake
> > of a future goal.
> 
> There you have it. You are suggesting that it would
> be ethical for a person to lie and pretend to be
> something that he's not if his intent somewhere 
> down the road was to "do the right thing," eh?  

Again, I didn't say a word about ethics.  I didn't
even say I approved of doing what I suggested he
might be doing.

I'm just pointing out that your criteria for 
judging him to be without spine don't hold up.

> It's back to the olde "ends justify the means"
> issue.  You think they do

In some cases, certainly.  But the bar is pretty
high.

; I think that the means
> *are* the end, and that if one attempts to do 
> something ethical by acting unethically, then 
> one deserves the karmas one gets.  Since this
> seems to be your chosen path in life,

It does?  What unethical things do you imagine
I've done?

 I wish
> you well with the karmas such an approach 
> create...

I would hope whatever choices I make are such that
the karmas involved at least balance out.  All any
of us can do is what seems to us to be right, then
let the chips fall where they may.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

[jyouells2000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I figure that being able to give 10 trillion bucks
> > > to people and organizations that *really* deserve
> > > it and that might actually do something to change
> > > the world in a positive way would be worth the
> > > sacrifice on my part. Heck, it might even get me
> > > laid...from what I hear around here, if the women
> > > of the TMO thought I had 10 trillion bucks, they'd
> > > be lining up to hop into bed with me.  :-)
> > 
> > Do I detect a bit of cynisism about ...WOMEN? 
> 
> Only mercenary women.  :-)
> 
> > (VBG - for the humor impaired) (How could you? It's so 
> > 'against natual law' and all that) 
> 
> Yeah, but since I believe that "natural law" is
> an enormous crock of shit and has no relationship
> to reality on any level, I don't think you can ask
> me to be that concerned about it.  :-)
> 
> > Of Course you could just give that 10 trillion for the 
> > Lynch Foundation naw..never mind...
> 
> That's a thought.  How many people could they 
> lynch for 10 trillion?
>

;-) The irony is too deep to follow - almost transcendental ...








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[FairfieldLife] Ex-EPA Chiefs Blame Bush in Global Warming

[a_non_moose_ff]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060118/ap_on_go_ot/global_warming

WASHINGTON - Six former heads of the
Environmental Protection Agency — five Republicans and one Democrat —
accused the Bush administration Wednesday of neglecting global warming
and other environmental problems.

"I don't think there's a commitment in this administration," said Bill
Ruckelshaus, who was EPA's first administrator when the agency opened
its doors in 1970 under President Nixon and headed it again under
President Reagan in the 1980s.

Russell Train, who succeeded Ruckelshaus in the Nixon and Ford
administrations, said slowing the growth of "greenhouse" gases isn't
enough.

"We need leadership, and I don't think we're getting it," he said at
an EPA-sponsored symposium centered around the agency's 35th
anniversary. "To sit back and just push it away and say we'll deal
with it sometime down the road is dishonest to the people and
self-destructive."

All of the former administrators raised their hands when EPA's current
chief, Stephen Johnson, asked whether they believe global warming is a
real problem, and again when he asked if humans bear significant blame.

Agency heads during five Republican administrations, including the
current one, criticized the Bush White House for what they described
as a failure of leadership.

Defending his boss, Johnson said the current administration has spent
$20 billion on research and technology to combat climate change after
President Bush rejected mandatory controls on carbon dioxide, the
chief gas blamed for trapping heat in the atmosphere like a greenhouse.

Bush also kept the United States out of the Kyoto international treaty
to reduce greenhouse gases globally, saying it would harm the U.S.
economy, after many of the accord's terms were negotiated by the
Clinton administration.

"I know from the president on down, he is committed," Johnson said.
"And certainly his charge to me was, and certainly our team has heard
it: 'I want you to accelerate the pace of environmental protection. I
want you to maintain our economic competitiveness.' And I think that's
really what it's all about."

His predecessors disagreed. Lee Thomas, Ruckelshaus's successor in the
Reagan administration, said that "if the United States doesn't deal
with those kinds of issues in a leadership role, they're not going to
get dealt with. So I'm very concerned about this country and this agency."

Bill Reilly, the EPA administrator under the first President Bush,
echoed that assessment.

"The time will come when we will address seriously the problem of
climate change, and this is the agency that's best equipped to
anticipate it," he said.

Christie Whitman, the first of three EPA administrators in the current
Bush administration, said people obviously are having "an enormous
impact" on the earth's warming.

"You'd need to be in a hole somewhere to think that the amount of
change that we have imposed on land, and the way we've handled
deforestation, farming practices, development, and what we're putting
into the air, isn't exacerbating what is probably a natural trend,"
she said. "But this is worse, and it's getting worse."

Carol Browner, who was
President Clinton's EPA administrator, said the White House and the
Congress should push legislation to establish a carbon trading program
based on a 1990 pollution trading program that helped reduce acid rain.

"If we wait for every single scientist who has a thought on the issue
of climate change to agree, we will never do anything," she said. "If
this agency had waited to completely understand the impacts of DDT,
the impacts of lead in our gasoline, there would probably still be DDT
sprayed and lead in our gasoline."

Three former administrators did not attend Wednesday's ceremony:
Mike Leavitt, now secretary of health and human services; Doug Costle,
who was in the Carter administration, and Anne Burford, a Reagan
appointee who died last year.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> > > Tom, I never wrote what Judy claims is a quote above.
> > 
> > For the record, Barry did indeed write what I claimed...
> 
> No he didn't

Oh, yeah, well, he did, and I'll document it if
anyone's interested.

And I didn't claim it was a quote, as noted.  Nor
was I "vocal" on FFL about Tom Pall's behavior, nor
was I siding with him in the post in question.

, but for the record, Barry doesn't
> really care whether Judy lives or dies, much
> less what she claims

Obviously that isn't true either.

 when she's on one of her
> periodic cyberstalking crusades.

Nor is this.

> I mean, really...how can a person this hung up
> on being taken seriously consistently act in a 
> manner that makes it impossible to take her
> seriously?  :-)  :-)  :-)

Translation: Barry doesn't like it when I call
attention to his deliberate misstatements.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

[a_non_moose_ff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Though Catherine Deneuve deciding to date you is a real 
> > possibility. 
> 
> Stranger things have happened. She's currently involved
> with a guy who weighs about 130 pounds more than me and
> has a honker so enormous that when he played Cyrano de
> Bergerac, he almost didn't need a fake nose.  

Damn. She told me she was going to keep our affair a secret.

> So though
> I agree with you that the chances of such a thing are
> pretty slim, still...who *knows* what goes on in the
> heads of women with regard to the men they choose.  :-)

The drugs you secretly gave them? Pity? Humor? A story to tell her
grandchildren? ("Oui, C'est vrai cherie, I did the US SIMS Washington
State Coordinator! Can you believe it!")









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[FairfieldLife] France defends right to nuclear reply to terrorism

[a_non_moose_ff]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060119/wl_nm/nuclear_arms_france_dc_2


France defends right to nuclear reply to terrorism

By Elizabeth Pineau Thu Jan 19, 9:11 AM ET

BREST, France (Reuters) - France said on Thursday it would be ready to
use nuclear weapons against any state that carried out a terrorist
attack against it, reaffirming the need for its nuclear deterrent.
ADVERTISEMENT

Deflecting criticism of France's costly nuclear arms program,
President Jacques Chirac said security came at a price and France must
be able to hit back hard at a hostile state's centers of power and its
"capacity to act."

He said there was no change in France's overall policy, which rules
out the use of nuclear weapons in a military conflict. But his speech
pointed to a change of emphasis to underline the growing threat France
perceives from terrorism.

"The leaders of states who would use terrorist means against us, as
well as those who would consider using in one way or another weapons
of mass destruction, must understand that they would lay themselves
open to a firm and adapted response on our part," Chirac said during a
visit to a nuclear submarine base in northwestern France.

"This response could be a conventional one. It could also be of a
different kind."

Chirac, who is commander-in-chief of the armed forces, said all of
France's nuclear forces had been configured with the new strategy in
mind and the number of nuclear warheads on French nuclear submarines
had been reduced to allow targeted strikes.

It was the first time he had so clearly linked the threat of a nuclear
response to a terrorist attack.

Chirac, 73, did not say whether France would be prepared to use
pre-emptive strikes against a country it saw as a threat.

SECURITY TIGHT

France has had nuclear weapons since the 1960s and experts believe it
has some 300 nuclear warheads.

"Against a regional power, our choice would not be between inaction or
annihilation," Chirac said in his first major speech on France's
nuclear arms strategy since 2001.

"The flexibility and reactivity of our strategic forces would enable
us to exercise our response directly against its centers of power and
its capacity to act."

France has tightened security since Islamist suicide bombers killed
more than 50 people in attacks on London transport last July, and
following the Madrid bomb blasts which killed more than 190 people in
March 2004.

Despite its strong opposition to the U.S.-led war in
Iraq, France remains a target for Islamist militants because of its
intelligence links with the United States and Britain.

Last July, national police service chief Michel Gaudin said a radical
Algerian Islamist group, the GSPC, had been in contact with al Qaeda's
leader in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, about launching attacks in France.

Since the end of the Cold War, questions have been raised about the
usefulness of the nuclear program, which makes up some 10 percent of
the overall defense budget.

Chirac's government is under pressure to cut spending as it struggles
to bring its public deficit below the
European Union's deficit limit of 3 percent of gross domestic product.

"Our country's security and its independence have their price," Chirac
said. 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

[Patrick Gillam]

--- TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> --- authfriend wrote: 
>
> > Sometimes it takes more spine to go along with
> > something and just absorb the scorn for the sake
> > of a future goal.
> 
> There you have it. You are suggesting that it would
> be ethical for a person to lie and pretend to be
> something that he's not if his intent somewhere 
> down the road was to "do the right thing," eh?  

My comment has nothing to do with intentions, but 
rather relates a few anecdotes about insiders wielding 
power. When they rise to the top, sometimes they 
surprise people by acting in ways contrary to the 
actions that got them into power in the first place.

Chester A. Arthur was a machine politician who found 
himself president when James Garfield was assassinated. 
I found the following at

http://www.americanpresident.org/history/chesterccrthur/

"As President, Arthur surprised everyone by acting independently, defying his 
state-based 
reputation as a slick machine politician who would advance the agenda of his 
own party 
faction and ignore the needs of the nation at-large. Domestic affairs dominated 
his 
presidency. In reforming civil service, Arthur supported the Pendleton Act, 
which 
attempted to counter patronage and cronyism by requiring competitive exams for 
government office. Specifically, the law banned salary kickbacks and ensured 
that 
promotion would be based on merit, not connections. While the Republican Party 
usually 
worked to protect big business and manufacturing, Arthur pushed for tariff 
reduction to 
relieve indebted farmers and middle-class consumers. He also vetoed the 
notorious pork-
barrel Rivers and Harbors Act of 1882, arguing that the growing surplus of 
federal funds 
should be decreased by tax reductions rather than government expenditures."

Would other examples be Richard Nixon's opening of China and Ronald Reagan's 
detente 
with the Soviet Union? I've read they rose to power in part on the strength of 
their 
credentials as anticommunists, but then they turned around and made nice with 
the 
communists.

It makes sense for insiders to effect reforms. Who better knows how the system 
should 
change?

I'm not saying any of Maharishi's successors will change anything. I expect the 
hagiographers and money-holders will win the day. Still, I'm open to being 
surprised.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Um, Barry, what about your girlfriend who could supposedly eat 
> > > whatever she wanted to without gaining an ounce?  Did she pass 
> > > out from bulimia or something?
> > 
> > She's French. She'd probably understand.
> > 
> > We are talking, after all, about the country in which
> > the funeral procession for the last leader of the
> > country (Mitterand) contained his wife and kids walking
> > side by side with his mistress and kids.  Go figure.
> > 
> > But since the chances of the TMO actually raising the
> > 10 trillion bucks are almost as remote as the chances
> > of them giving it to me, I suspect the whole point 
> > is moot.  :-)
> 
> Though Catherine Deneuve deciding to date you is a real 
> possibility. 

Stranger things have happened. She's currently involved
with a guy who weighs about 130 pounds more than me and
has a honker so enormous that when he played Cyrano de
Bergerac, he almost didn't need a fake nose.  So though
I agree with you that the chances of such a thing are
pretty slim, still...who *knows* what goes on in the
heads of women with regard to the men they choose.  :-)








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[FairfieldLife] Group formed to restore election integrity

[Rick Archer]

Title: Group formed to restore election integrity





A group of people in Fairfield, formed by Carole Simmons and Cindy Ballou, recently began an effort to restore voting integrity in Iowa.

 

They intend to  raise awareness of the issue via articles in newspapers, buttons ("Stop Election Fraud.  Demand paper ballots"), bumper stickers, and public showings of documentaries exposing the reality, ugliness, and impact of vote rigging.  At least as importantly, they will be contacting those at the state and local levels who oversee elections and hopefully influencing them to get paper ballots and election audits throughout the state.

 

I encourage those of you on this list who care about democracy and who live in Fairfield to consider joining these people and helping out.  If you live elsewhere, please consider joining, or forming, a similar group.  Such groups in other states have already had significant impact changing election laws/procedures much for the better.

 

If you capture the fort controlling the gold, silver, etc mines, you don't have to fight innumerable lesser battles for all the individual mines.  We have an Iraq war, a govt that lies to us and spies on its own citizens, torture, detention without trial, incompetents appointed to lead govt agencies, and so much more ONLY because past elections were rigged.  If we fix that problem, a whole lot of other problems go away automatically.

 

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[FairfieldLife] Loan for TM

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Title: Loan for TM





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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

[tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis]

TorquiseB writes:
It's back to the olde "ends justify the means"
issue.  You think they do; I think that the means
*are* the end, and that if one attempts to do 
something ethical by acting unethically, then 
one deserves the karmas one gets.  Since this
seems to be your chosen path in life, I wish
you well with the karmas such an approach 
create...

Tom T:
>From the Alistair Shearer Treanlation of Patanjali.
Chapter 2 vs 36. When we are established in truthfulness, action
accomplishes its desired end.
C2 vs 37. When we are firmly established in integrity, all riches
present themselves freely.
C2 vs 39. When we are established in non-attachment, the nature and
purpose of existence is understood.
Tom T






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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Um, Barry, what about your girlfriend who could supposedly eat 
> > whatever she wanted to without gaining an ounce?  Did she pass 
> > out from bulimia or something?
> 
> She's French. She'd probably understand.
> 
> We are talking, after all, about the country in which
> the funeral procession for the last leader of the
> country (Mitterand) contained his wife and kids walking
> side by side with his mistress and kids.  Go figure.
> 
> But since the chances of the TMO actually raising the
> 10 trillion bucks are almost as remote as the chances
> of them giving it to me, I suspect the whole point 
> is moot.  :-)

Though Catherine Deneuve deciding to date you is a real possibility. 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
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>
> Um, Barry, what about your girlfriend who could supposedly eat 
> whatever she wanted to without gaining an ounce?  Did she pass 
> out from bulimia or something?

She's French. She'd probably understand.

We are talking, after all, about the country in which
the funeral procession for the last leader of the
country (Mitterand) contained his wife and kids walking
side by side with his mistress and kids.  Go figure.

But since the chances of the TMO actually raising the
10 trillion bucks are almost as remote as the chances
of them giving it to me, I suspect the whole point 
is moot.  :-)








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[FairfieldLife] Drive car to east coast

[Rick Archer]

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I have a friend who’s father just died. He’s in Pittsburgh and needs to get his car out there from FF. If you need a free trip to the East Coast, you could drive his car to Pittsburgh and he’ll fly you from there to any other east coast city you need to get to. Let me know ASAP if this interests you.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

[Sal Sunshine]

Um, Barry, what about your girlfriend who could supposedly eat whatever she wanted to without gaining an ounce?  Did she pass out from bulimia or something?

Sal


On Jan 19, 2006, at 2:03 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

 I figure that being able to give 10 trillion bucks
 to people and organizations that *really* deserve
 it and that might actually do something to change
 the world in a positive way would be worth the
 sacrifice on my part. Heck, it might even get me
 laid...from what I hear around here, if the women
 of the TMO thought I had 10 trillion bucks, they'd
 be lining up to hop into bed with me.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 1/19/06 2:03 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > I figure that being able to give 10 trillion bucks
> > to people and organizations that *really* deserve
> > it and that might actually do something to change
> > the world in a positive way would be worth the
> > sacrifice on my part. Heck, it might even get me
> > laid...from what I hear around here, if the women
> > of the TMO thought I had 10 trillion bucks, they'd
> > be lining up to hop into bed with me.  :-)
> 
> They're all in their 50's and 60's. Still interested?

Depends on the woman. For example:

Catherine Deneuve is 62.
Natalie Baye is 57.
Isabelle Adjani is 50.
Charlotte Rampling is 60.
Glenn Close is 57.
Helen Mirren is 60.
Meryl Streep is 61.
Sigourney Weaver is 56.
Kim Basinger is 52.
Raquel Welch is 65 (and still looks great).







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

[Rick Archer]

on 1/19/06 2:03 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I figure that being able to give 10 trillion bucks
> to people and organizations that *really* deserve
> it and that might actually do something to change
> the world in a positive way would be worth the
> sacrifice on my part. Heck, it might even get me
> laid...from what I hear around here, if the women
> of the TMO thought I had 10 trillion bucks, they'd
> be lining up to hop into bed with me.  :-)

They're all in their 50's and 60's. Still interested?




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[FairfieldLife] Opps, Barry does it again

[a_non_moose_ff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Tom, I never wrote what Judy claims is a quote above.
> > 
> > For the record, Barry did indeed write what I claimed...
> 
> No he didn't, but for the record, Barry doesn't
> really care whether Judy lives or dies, much
> less what she claims when she's on one of her
> periodic cyberstalking crusades. 
> 
> I mean, really...how can a person this hung up
> on being taken seriously consistently act in a 
> manner that makes it impossible to take her
> seriously?  :-)  :-)  :-)


Thanks Barry!

I really didn't understand your highly important view on this issue
the first 5000 times you posted it. But now I think I finally get it.
That done, I don't think you need to post any more repititions.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Giving money away dharmically

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> >
> > Interestingly, the issue of *how* to give money to
> > spiritual organizations in the "cleanest" possible
> > way, one that insures the highest benefit for all
> > concerned, has been discussed recently on another
> > forum of which I am a member. Here's a compilation
> > of ideas that came up there for how folks there
> > felt that charitable donations should be handled.
> > 
> 
> My approach to gifts in general, including charitable 
> contributions to the TMO (which I've stopped by the way) 
> is to completely let go of the gift once it is given. 
> Unless it was a large sum of money I was donating (
> whihc is a *very* hypothetical instance...) I don't want to 
> chase around my gift after it is given. Once it is given, 
> it is gone, as far as I am concerned.

That's generally my attitude as well. But in these
particular discussions, people were talking about
trying to find a way to give charitable donations
that prevented the *receiving* organization from
abusing the money or falling prey to the many traps
associated with getting large sums of money given
to people who aren't used to handling it.  You'll
have to admit that if a few more people had handled
their donations to the TMO as sensibly as these
folks have suggested, that it wouldn't have been
tempted to rip people off the way it clearly has.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

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wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
> > > > > not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
> > > > > tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
> > > > > is gone.
> > > > 
> > > > I think it tells us that he has no spine, and
> > > > is not likely to develop one.
> > > 
> > > It might, or it might not.  If he actually does want
> > > to take over the movement after MMY's death, it
> > > wouldn't make a lot of sense for him to create a ruckus
> > > at this point and kill his chances of doing so.
> > 
> > Yes, that's the approach someone without a spine
> > would take, all right.
> 
> Not if his plan is to remake the movement once
> MMY dies.

We must agree to disagree. In my book, someone who
wanted to remake the TM movement would not do so
by pretending to go along with its current line
of bullshit. If you consider that ethical, I suggest
that it says a lot about your own ethics.

> Sometimes it takes more spine to go along with
> something and just absorb the scorn for the sake
> of a future goal.

There you have it. You are suggesting that it would
be ethical for a person to lie and pretend to be
something that he's not if his intent somewhere 
down the road was to "do the right thing," eh?  

It's back to the olde "ends justify the means"
issue.  You think they do; I think that the means
*are* the end, and that if one attempts to do 
something ethical by acting unethically, then 
one deserves the karmas one gets.  Since this
seems to be your chosen path in life, I wish
you well with the karmas such an approach 
create...










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it

[TurquoiseB]

> > Tom, I never wrote what Judy claims is a quote above.
> 
> For the record, Barry did indeed write what I claimed...

No he didn't, but for the record, Barry doesn't
really care whether Judy lives or dies, much
less what she claims when she's on one of her
periodic cyberstalking crusades. 

I mean, really...how can a person this hung up
on being taken seriously consistently act in a 
manner that makes it impossible to take her
seriously?  :-)  :-)  :-)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> > I figure that being able to give 10 trillion bucks
> > to people and organizations that *really* deserve
> > it and that might actually do something to change
> > the world in a positive way would be worth the
> > sacrifice on my part. Heck, it might even get me
> > laid...from what I hear around here, if the women
> > of the TMO thought I had 10 trillion bucks, they'd
> > be lining up to hop into bed with me.  :-)
> 
> Do I detect a bit of cynisism about ...WOMEN? 

Only mercenary women.  :-)

> (VBG - for the humor impaired) (How could you? It's so 
> 'against natual law' and all that) 

Yeah, but since I believe that "natural law" is
an enormous crock of shit and has no relationship
to reality on any level, I don't think you can ask
me to be that concerned about it.  :-)

> Of Course you could just give that 10 trillion for the 
> Lynch Foundation naw..never mind...

That's a thought.  How many people could they 
lynch for 10 trillion?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Giving money away dharmically

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Interestingly, the issue of *how* to give money to
> spiritual organizations in the "cleanest" possible
> way, one that insures the highest benefit for all
> concerned, has been discussed recently on another
> forum of which I am a member. Here's a compilation
> of ideas that came up there for how folks there
> felt that charitable donations should be handled.
> 

My approach to gifts in general, including charitable contributions to 
the TMO (which I've stopped by the way) is to completely let go of the 
gift once it is given. Unless it was a large sum of money I was 
donating (whihc is a *very* hypothetical instance...) I don't want to 
chase around my gift after it is given. Once it is given, it is gone, 
as far as I am concerned. 





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[FairfieldLife] Using the TMO's $10 trillion bond to solve the Social Security conundrum...

[shempmcgurk]

$10 trillion is equivalent to about the all pension plans -- 
individual and group -- in the U.S. combined. Individual plans 
include all qualified plans such as IRAs, 401(k)s, etc.

So: the TMO should convince all workers in America to issue "sell" 
orders to the brokers holding stocks, bonds, and mutual funds within 
qualified (i.e. retirement) plans and buy TMO bonds.

And when the bonds fail, everyone can rely on their Social Security 
benefits.

Of course, the alternative would be to leave all the pension and 
qualified plans as the are and, instead, privatize Social Security 
with the one proviso that workers can ONLY invest their SS funds in 
TMO bonds!

That way, the whole SS system will go bankrupt and fail.  Then 
workers will no longer have to contribute to the horrible SS program 
anymore, thus freeing them to invest that money in their own 
individual qualified plans





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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
> > > > not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
> > > > tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
> > > > is gone.
> > > 
> > > I think it tells us that he has no spine, and
> > > is not likely to develop one.
> > 
> > It might, or it might not.  If he actually does want
> > to take over the movement after MMY's death, it
> > wouldn't make a lot of sense for him to create a ruckus
> > at this point and kill his chances of doing so.
> 
> Yes, that's the approach someone without a spine
> would take, all right.

Not if his plan is to remake the movement once
MMY dies.

Sometimes it takes more spine to go along with
something and just absorb the scorn for the sake
of a future goal.

Caveat for the literal-minded: I'm not saying I
think or hope this is what's going on; merely
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Nissargadatta's only self written book

[Vaj]

On Jan 19, 2006, at 8:37 AM, Peter wrote:Nice find, Vaj, thanks. I would really like to see a copy of the "original" however, just to validate it.Lot's of nice quotes. It is interesting that he considers mastery of kundalini comes at the beginning of the path."In the beginning, the Sadhaka is instructed into the secrets of his own person, and of the indwelling spirit; the meaning and nature of prana, the various plexuses, and the nature and arousal of the Kundalini, and the nature of the Self. Later on, he comes to know of the origin of the five elements, their activity, radiation, and merits and defects. Meanwhile his mind undergoes the process of purification and acquires composure, and this the Sadhaka experiences through the deep-laid subtle center of the Indweller; he also knows how and why it is there, only that the deiform element is kindled. This knowledge transforms him into the pure, eternal, and spiritual form of a SadGuru who is now in a position to initiate others into the secrets of the spirit. The stage of Sadhakahood ends here."(...)"In fact, the pseudo-Saints are caught in a snare of greed, hence what the people get in return is not the blessings of satisfaction, but ashes.    The self-styled man of God, speaking ad nauseum about spiritual matters, thinks himself to be perfect, but others are not so sure. As regards a Saint, on the other hand, men are on the lookout for ways to serve him more and more, but as the ever contented soul, steeped in beatitude, desires nothing, they are left to serve in their own way, which they do with enthusiasm, and they never feel the pressure.    Greatness is always humble, loving, silent and satisfied. Happiness, tolerance, forbearance, composure and other allied qualities must be known by everyone; just as one experiences bodily states such as hunger, thirst, etc., one. must, with equal ease, experience in oneself the characteristics connoted by the word “Saint”. As we know for certain that we need no more sleep, no more food, at a given moment, so too we can be sure of the above characteristics from direct experience. One can then recognize their presence in others with the same ease. This is the test and experience of a tried spiritual leader."





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it

[Vaj]

On Jan 19, 2006, at 9:38 AM, uns_tressor wrote:He's trying to convert us all his his chosen variant of Buddhism. I am not interested in conversion or proselytizing.The answers are out there, go find them.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

[jyouells2000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Guruphiliac quotes king tony's "royal decree #21" here:
> > > > > http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/
> > > > > 
> > > > > So what are the first 20 royal decrees about?  Anyone have a 
> > > > > link?
> > > > 
> > > > I don't even know what *this* one is about. :-)
> > > > 
> > > > It's nothing but a string of buzzwords and buzzphrases
> > > > that don't mean a damned thing except to someone who
> > > > has been brainwashed for years into thinking that they
> > > > do mean something. I would suggest that this level of
> > > > bullshit-slinging should smash the lingering hopes of
> > > > many here that underneath it all King Tony might be
> > > > sane and that better days might be in store for the
> > > > TMO after Maharishi's death.
> > > 
> > > I seriously doubt there are "many here" who have any
> > > such "lingering hopes" to be smashed, Barry, don't you?
> > > 
> > > On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
> > > not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
> > > tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
> > > is gone.
> > 
> > Barry: does that mean you be rejoining the TMO once MMY drops 
> > the body and Tony takes over the helms?
> 
> Yeah, right. When Bevans fly.  :-)
> 
> Actually, there IS one scenario in which I would
> rejoin the TM movement. If it succeeded in raising
> 10 trillion dollars and agreed to give *all* of it
> to me, I'd gladly pretend to be part of the TMO
> again. It's not like I'd teach TM or attend any
> meetings or anything, but I'd agree to pay lip
> service to the TMO by keeping my mouth shut and 
> not criticizing it. Meanwhile, I'd take the money 
> and give it away to spiritual and charitable 
> institutions *other* than the TMO. Every penny of 
> it. The minute the money was gone, I'd be back to 
> my old nagging, critical self again.
> 
> I figure that being able to give 10 trillion bucks
> to people and organizations that *really* deserve
> it and that might actually do something to change
> the world in a positive way would be worth the
> sacrifice on my part. Heck, it might even get me
> laid...from what I hear around here, if the women
> of the TMO thought I had 10 trillion bucks, they'd
> be lining up to hop into bed with me.  :-)
>

Do I detect a bit of cynisism about ...WOMEN? (VBG - for the humor
impaired) (How could you? It's so 'against natual law' and all that) 

Of Course you could just give that 10 trillion for the Lynch
Foundation naw..never mind...







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" 
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>
> Judy Stein wrote:
> > I didn't originate a single one of these threads.
> > 
> Didn't say you did, Judy. But, where were you when 
> I needed you? Instead you tried to make me feel bad 
> and now you're attempting to ignore that fact.

What I've done is corrected some (but by no means all)
of your deliberate misstatements of fact, as you know.
If that makes you feel bad, try telling the truth
instead.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it

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> jstein wrote:
> > Not true, as you know, Barry. 
> >
> Where I come from, Judy, silence indicates agreement.
> 
> > I didn't create a single one of them.
> >
> It was only a partial list - I'll add your many 
> disparaging remarks when I get the time.  So, 
> Judy, you wanted to make me feel bad, so you posted 
> numerous lies and slanders about me on the Internet

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Judy Stein wrote:
> > As Lawson suggests, you *want* to make people you
> > don't like feel bad. To have that desire and act
> > on it is one thing; to pretend it's not the case
> > is quite another. It's dishonest and hypocritical.
> >
> Barry Wright wrote:
> >> The way you can tell the difference is that when
> >> I lit into your ass I was usually funny, suggesting
> >> that you said the things you did because you were
> >> over-tired from having sex with underage badgers. :-)
> >>
> So, Mr. Wright, you admit that you wanted to make me feel bad and 
you
> had the desire to to act on it and now you want to pretend it's not
> the case. You, Sir, are dishonest and hypocritical. I guess Judy was
> right about you! :-)
> 
> From: Uncle Tantra
> Subject: Re: Why is FFL so much into now I've got you, you s.o.b.?
> Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
> Date: Thurs, Dec 22 2005 3:54 am
> http://tinyurl.com/9zq26
> 
> Tom, I never wrote what Judy claims is a quote above.

For the record, Barry did indeed write what I claimed;
but I didn't claim it was a quote (it was a close
paraphrase, without quote marks), so Barry crammed two
deliberate misrepresentations into one sentence.


> Judy knows most of this, and has been vocal on FFL in condemning
> Tom Pall for his racist remarks and his unconscionable attacks 
> against the newsgroup itself and individuals on it.

And yet another deliberate misrepresentation from
Barry.  As he knows, I stayed almost completely out
of that flap.

> The only reason she's seeming
> to "side" with him now is that it's a rare opportunity for her to
> attack me.

And a third misrepresentation.  I wasn't "siding" with
Tom in any way but rather pointing out Barry's
hypocrisy (hardly a "rare" opportunity, so that's a
*fourth* misrepresentation).






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" 
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>
> Vaj wrote:
> > Do we need to bring this dredged muck over here?
> >
> You got your question all backwards, Vaj.

> from what I've read, neither you nor any of the other 
> current informers have ever been within a thousand miles 
> of a Maharishi Golden dome, much less ever planning a 
> visit to Fairfield, Iowa!

He's trying to convert us all his his
chosen variant of Buddhism.
Uns.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] The view from up here

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In a message dated 1/18/06 9:55:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
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P.S. Tom 
  is from Austin, Texas. What *IS* it about that place thatbreeds crazy 
  people, eh?

Austin, is the Jerusalem of the western hemisphere. It 
sits on a very holy site, the Holiest of Holy sites. If one is not prepared 
mentally, physically and spiritually to live in this purest of places one 
could go crazy. Look at Charles White, the university Tower shooter, Ann 
Richards, the first mummified Governor of Texas,Ronnie Earl,witch hunter, Kinky 
Friedman and the Texas Jew Boys, Sandra Bullock and Mathew 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Nissargadatta's only self written book

[Peter]

Nice find, Vaj, thanks.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" 
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Guruphiliac quotes king tony's "royal decree #21" here:
> > > > > http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/
> > > > > 
> > > > > So what are the first 20 royal decrees about?  Anyone have a 
> > > > > link?
> > > > 
> > > > I don't even know what *this* one is about. :-)
> > > > 
> > > > It's nothing but a string of buzzwords and buzzphrases
> > > > that don't mean a damned thing except to someone who
> > > > has been brainwashed for years into thinking that they
> > > > do mean something. I would suggest that this level of
> > > > bullshit-slinging should smash the lingering hopes of
> > > > many here that underneath it all King Tony might be
> > > > sane and that better days might be in store for the
> > > > TMO after Maharishi's death.
> > > 
> > > I seriously doubt there are "many here" who have any
> > > such "lingering hopes" to be smashed, Barry, don't you?
> > > 
> > > On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
> > > not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
> > > tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
> > > is gone.

I think there are 2 types left in the inner circle: (1) TBs saturated
with kool-aid, and in some cases with actual mental problems, who
whole heartedly support the craziness now and will after MMY dies, and
(2) more realistic types who are waiting for their chance to raid the
coffers and take over the business side of the TMO after MMY dies.

What I hear is that king tony is a figurehead without any real power,
signatory rights, or line authority in the org.  He'll preside over
public events but won't be a mover and shaker.





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[FairfieldLife] Nissargadatta's only self written book

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmachari Mahesh speaks on Guru Dev in 1952

[Premanand Paul Mason]

The transcript of the 1952 speech was sourced in India by a friend in 
1974, some years prior to the adoption of the 'sidhi' spelling by the 
TM-Sidhi techniquers. The other typos were also present in the 
transcript.
Whilst re-typing the transcript I inadvertently left out the opening 
line of the speech. Both the 'missing line' and adjustments to the 
typos are included in the full transcript displayed at the following:-
http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/sources/text/Maheshspeech.htm


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> Who typed this? Apart from typos, the
> spelling of siddhi is per modern Movement
> service mark. Maharishi definitely wouldn't
> have written it that way in 1952, and it looks
> like something edited, sloppily, by a recent 
> acolyte. Was anything else revised or deleted?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   The Great Saint of the Himalayas is Coming 
> > to Shower His Blessings on the Metropolis.
> >
> >   The Statement issued by: BAL BRAHMACHARI SHRI MAHESH JI.
> >   Press conference convened by Shri Shankaracharya Reception 
Committee, Delhi on the 
> 15th Oct., 1952 at 5 p.m. in the Young Man's Tennis Club Queen's 
Gardens, in connection 
> with the visit of HIS HOLINESS SHRI JAGATGURU SHANKARACHARYA 
MAHARAJ OF 
> JYOTIRMATH.
> >   **
> >   It gives me a great pleasure to welcome you all and have your 
company here this 
> afternoon. It gives me enough encouragement and support to acquaint 
you with the 
> details of the mission for whose fulfilment His Holiness Shri 
Jagatguru Shankaracharya 
> Swami BRAHMANAND SARASWATI MAHARAJ will be visiting your city about 
the 12th of 
> November 1952 and stay here for about a month for Dharmopdesh.
> >   
> >   Swami Brahmand Saraswati Maharaj, the present Shankaracharya of 
Jyotirmath 
> Badarikashram (in the Himalayas) is a magnetic personality with a 
sweet amalgam of High 
> Wisdom and Love of humanity. He combines in himself the Knowledge 
of the self with the 
> mysterious powers -- the sidhis arising out of yogic perfection and 
hard penances, which 
> he has undergone throughout his life. He is a great living yogi and 
scholar and is revered 
> by millions of Hindus as their Supreme Religious head.
> >   
> >   This great Saint of the modern age was born in U.P. in a well 
to do and renowned 
> Brahman family in 1871 and was enthroned to the seat of His 
Holiness Jagatguru 
> Shankaracharya in 1941 at Banares, during the ninth session of the 
All India Sanatan 
> Dharma Maha Sammelan convened by the Bharat Dharma Mahamandal in 
conjunction with 
> a countrywide support of almost all the ruling princes and 
different socioreligious 
> institutions all over the country. It may be recalled that it was a 
long persuation of about 
> twenty years which could convince Param Virakt Swami Brahmanand 
Saraswati to accept 
> the great responsibility of the Shankaracharya at the age of 
seventy.
> >   
> >   From the tender age of nine when he came out of his home in 
Search of God, till this 
> time, his life was mostly spent in the lonely hidden regions of the 
Himalayas, Vindya Giris 
> and the Amarkantakas which are rarely frequented by men and are 
chiefly inhabited by 
> wild animals. For years together he has lived in hidden caves and 
thick forests where even 
> the midday sun frets and fumes in vain to dispel the darkness that 
may be said to have 
> made a permanent abode there in those solitary and distant regions.
> >   
> >   But today he is easily accessible as he is now the presiding 
head of Shri Jyotirmath 
> which is the greatest religious institution of the Hindus of 
Northern India, covering all 
> different creeds and sampradayas and branches lying under the fold 
of Hindu Religions.
> >   
> >   One unique principle of the great Sage that distinguishes him 
completely from other 
> living saints of today is that he does not accept money as gift 
from his visitors or disciples.
> >   
> >   This brief description attempts to mirror a few hurried and 
short glimpses of the life 
> journey of this great living sage who has actually transformed into 
a living fact the inner 
> latent potentiality of the soul. He has known the great universal 
Truth, whose realisation is 
> teh aim of the entire scheme of life. For him the mists of 
ignorance have completely 
> disappeared and having known the Divine Reality he has verrily 
become an embodiment of 
> the great Divinity.
> >   
> >   His aim of life, if the life of a realised soul can be said to 
possess any such aim, is to 
> broadcast the message of the Great Divine light that he has himself 
realised, the Light that 
> is the Soul of all human beings. Having himself attained the 
pinacle of Self development, 
> he aims at transforming the worldly minded people into the Godly 
minded, and through 
> his inner Divine touch to change the materialistic hearts of 

[FairfieldLife] Giving money away dharmically

[TurquoiseB]

--- In another thread, I snided:
>
> Actually, there IS one scenario in which I would
> rejoin the TM movement. If it succeeded in raising
> 10 trillion dollars and agreed to give *all* of it
> to me, I'd gladly pretend to be part of the TMO
> again. It's not like I'd teach TM or attend any
> meetings or anything, but I'd agree to pay lip
> service to the TMO by keeping my mouth shut and 
> not criticizing it. Meanwhile, I'd take the money 
> and give it away to spiritual and charitable 
> institutions *other* than the TMO. Every penny of 
> it. 

Interestingly, the issue of *how* to give money to
spiritual organizations in the "cleanest" possible
way, one that insures the highest benefit for all
concerned, has been discussed recently on another
forum of which I am a member. Here's a compilation
of ideas that came up there for how folks there
felt that charitable donations should be handled.

* Never give money to an organization without
specifying exactly what it is to be spent for
and receiving a written agreement from the
organization that it will be spent for that
purpose and *only* that purpose. Include wording
that spells out what happens if the money is 
*not* spent as agreed. (For example, the full
amount has to be returned to the donor.) If the
organization does not agree to this, more often
than not you really don't want to support it.

* Never give money to any organization that does
not agree to do a *public* accounting of every penny
they received for the project you are supporting,
and what each penny was spent on.

* Only give money to pay for goods and services,
not to pay for the lifestyles of people in the
receiving organization. That is, if you are 
donating to help teach meditation, specify that
the money has to be spent on renting halls, pay-
ing for advertising or posters, and for giveaway
materials, but *not* to pay the rent for the
teachers themselves, so that they don't have to
work at a "day job." (Almost everyone on the forum 
where these suggestions came up has been a teacher 
of meditation and self discovery. Almost everyone
on the forum agrees that it is a *bad* idea for 
teachers of meditation to be paid for their services. )

* Require the receiving organization to provide
you (the donor) with quarterly reports in which
they detail the progress that has been made on 
the project you supported and how the money you
donated has been spent so far. If they balk at
doing this, chances are something is wrong.

* Require the receiving organization to publish
the incomes of *all* personnel who work for it
full-time, including all "perks" that they may
receive in lieu of actual salary. (For instance,
houses and cars provided for free to clergy,
vacations, travel expenses, etc.) 

* Require the receiving organization to publish
at least yearly a breakdown of the percentage of
money donated that is actually spent on projects
and not on supporting the organization itself.
For example, if you read the "fine print" in the
United Way brochures (which, sadly, no one does), 
you learn that less than 40 cents on every dollar
raised goes to the charities it supports. The rest
goes to salaries for the full-time workers (many 
of them six-figure salaries) and to support the 
bloated structure of the organization. If more 
potential donors *knew* this, they would give their
money -- 100% of it -- directly to the charities
that the United Way claims to support.

Other ideas were equally interesting, in my opinion.
I'm just "crosspollenating" the subject here on FFL
to see how people here -- many of whom have given
money to the TMO and other organizations in the 
past or are still doing so -- feel about the subject.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmachari Mahesh speaks on Guru Dev in 1952

[Premanand Paul Mason]

The full text can be viewed at:-
http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/sources/text/Maheshspeech.htm




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "at_man_and_brahman" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Who typed this? Apart from typos, the
> spelling of siddhi is per modern Movement
> service mark. Maharishi definitely wouldn't
> have written it that way in 1952, and it looks
> like something edited, sloppily, by a recent 
> acolyte. Was anything else revised or deleted?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   The Great Saint of the Himalayas is Coming 
> > to Shower His Blessings on the Metropolis.
> >
> >   The Statement issued by: BAL BRAHMACHARI SHRI MAHESH JI.
> >   Press conference convened by Shri Shankaracharya Reception 
Committee, Delhi on the 
> 15th Oct., 1952 at 5 p.m. in the Young Man's Tennis Club Queen's 
Gardens, in connection 
> with the visit of HIS HOLINESS SHRI JAGATGURU SHANKARACHARYA 
MAHARAJ OF 
> JYOTIRMATH.
> >   **
> >   It gives me a great pleasure to welcome you all and have your 
company here this 
> afternoon. It gives me enough encouragement and support to acquaint 
you with the 
> details of the mission for whose fulfilment His Holiness Shri 
Jagatguru Shankaracharya 
> Swami BRAHMANAND SARASWATI MAHARAJ will be visiting your city about 
the 12th of 
> November 1952 and stay here for about a month for Dharmopdesh.
> >   
> >   Swami Brahmand Saraswati Maharaj, the present Shankaracharya of 
Jyotirmath 
> Badarikashram (in the Himalayas) is a magnetic personality with a 
sweet amalgam of High 
> Wisdom and Love of humanity. He combines in himself the Knowledge 
of the self with the 
> mysterious powers -- the sidhis arising out of yogic perfection and 
hard penances, which 
> he has undergone throughout his life. He is a great living yogi and 
scholar and is revered 
> by millions of Hindus as their Supreme Religious head.
> >   
> >   This great Saint of the modern age was born in U.P. in a well 
to do and renowned 
> Brahman family in 1871 and was enthroned to the seat of His 
Holiness Jagatguru 
> Shankaracharya in 1941 at Banares, during the ninth session of the 
All India Sanatan 
> Dharma Maha Sammelan convened by the Bharat Dharma Mahamandal in 
conjunction with 
> a countrywide support of almost all the ruling princes and 
different socioreligious 
> institutions all over the country. It may be recalled that it was a 
long persuation of about 
> twenty years which could convince Param Virakt Swami Brahmanand 
Saraswati to accept 
> the great responsibility of the Shankaracharya at the age of 
seventy.
> >   
> >   From the tender age of nine when he came out of his home in 
Search of God, till this 
> time, his life was mostly spent in the lonely hidden regions of the 
Himalayas, Vindya Giris 
> and the Amarkantakas which are rarely frequented by men and are 
chiefly inhabited by 
> wild animals. For years together he has lived in hidden caves and 
thick forests where even 
> the midday sun frets and fumes in vain to dispel the darkness that 
may be said to have 
> made a permanent abode there in those solitary and distant regions.
> >   
> >   But today he is easily accessible as he is now the presiding 
head of Shri Jyotirmath 
> which is the greatest religious institution of the Hindus of 
Northern India, covering all 
> different creeds and sampradayas and branches lying under the fold 
of Hindu Religions.
> >   
> >   One unique principle of the great Sage that distinguishes him 
completely from other 
> living saints of today is that he does not accept money as gift 
from his visitors or disciples.
> >   
> >   This brief description attempts to mirror a few hurried and 
short glimpses of the life 
> journey of this great living sage who has actually transformed into 
a living fact the inner 
> latent potentiality of the soul. He has known the great universal 
Truth, whose realisation is 
> teh aim of the entire scheme of life. For him the mists of 
ignorance have completely 
> disappeared and having known the Divine Reality he has verrily 
become an embodiment of 
> the great Divinity.
> >   
> >   His aim of life, if the life of a realised soul can be said to 
possess any such aim, is to 
> broadcast the message of the Great Divine light that he has himself 
realised, the Light that 
> is the Soul of all human beings. Having himself attained the 
pinacle of Self development, 
> he aims at transforming the worldly minded people into the Godly 
minded, and through 
> his inner Divine touch to change the materialistic hearts of iron 
into spiritual hearts of 
> gold.
> >   
> >   His entire personality emanates the sweet perfume of 
spirituality. His race radiates that 
> rare light which comprises love, authority, serenity and self 
assuredness that comes only 
> by ritious living and Divine Realisation -- one feels as if some 
ancient Maharishi 
> mentioned in the pages of the Upanishads has assumed human form 

[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

[TurquoiseB]

> > > > Guruphiliac quotes king tony's "royal decree #21" here:
> > > > http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/
> > > > 
> > > > So what are the first 20 royal decrees about?  Anyone have a 
> > > > link?
> > > 
> > > I don't even know what *this* one is about. :-)
> > > 
> > > It's nothing but a string of buzzwords and buzzphrases
> > > that don't mean a damned thing except to someone who
> > > has been brainwashed for years into thinking that they
> > > do mean something. I would suggest that this level of
> > > bullshit-slinging should smash the lingering hopes of
> > > many here that underneath it all King Tony might be
> > > sane and that better days might be in store for the
> > > TMO after Maharishi's death.
> > 
> > I seriously doubt there are "many here" who have any
> > such "lingering hopes" to be smashed, Barry, don't you?
> > 
> > On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
> > not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
> > tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
> > is gone.
> 
> Barry: does that mean you be rejoining the TMO once MMY drops 
> the body and Tony takes over the helms?

Yeah, right. When Bevans fly.  :-)

Actually, there IS one scenario in which I would
rejoin the TM movement. If it succeeded in raising
10 trillion dollars and agreed to give *all* of it
to me, I'd gladly pretend to be part of the TMO
again. It's not like I'd teach TM or attend any
meetings or anything, but I'd agree to pay lip
service to the TMO by keeping my mouth shut and 
not criticizing it. Meanwhile, I'd take the money 
and give it away to spiritual and charitable 
institutions *other* than the TMO. Every penny of 
it. The minute the money was gone, I'd be back to 
my old nagging, critical self again.

I figure that being able to give 10 trillion bucks
to people and organizations that *really* deserve
it and that might actually do something to change
the world in a positive way would be worth the
sacrifice on my part. Heck, it might even get me
laid...from what I hear around here, if the women
of the TMO thought I had 10 trillion bucks, they'd
be lining up to hop into bed with me.  :-)







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