[FairfieldLife] Re: Britain's happiness in decline

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Just saw the first of 6 BBC programmes on this series about 
> happiness. The idea that happiness is the goal and things like 
money 
> and pleasure are just a means to it was put forward by Aristotle. 
> After a certain income - about $15,000 - any extra happiness from 
> economic consumption is fleeting and has diminishing returns. 
> Moreover whilst prosperity has trebled since the mid-fifties 
> happiness has fallen from 52% then to just 36% today.
> 
> Yes these are "subjective" measures but they do seem to correlate 
> with more tangible "effects". Smoking can cost 3 years of one's 
> life; unhappiness 9 years. The "good feel" factor has attracted 
> political interest but all governments are obsessed with GNP 
growth -
> which we know won't make much difference to happiness.
> 
> However the first country to adopt National Happiness as its "GNP" 
> is the Kingdom of Bhutan. Not sure how this works out in practice -
 
> so far they've decided to ban advertising boards and plastic bags!
> 
> I agree that questionnaires are rather rough measures and in a 
cult 
> setting especially unreliable. But perhaps in future there might 
be 
> brainwaves and other physiological measures that can be used in 
> addition.
> 
> But I see this new "serious" interest in the happiness of the 
> population as a positive development.

I agree...a good sign.

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/happiness_formula/4771908.stm
> > 
> > Did you take the "Happiness Test" at that link?
> > I scored "Highly Satisfied."  That and a couple
> > of bucks will get me a cuppa java at Starbucks. :-)
> > 
> > But this article brings up the same question for
> > me that another recently-posted article about
> > relative happiness as measured by *asking* people
> > whether they were happy or not did:
> > 
> >   How meaningful is the result of such polling in 
> >   a cult community?
> > 
> > I'm not talking just about TM or real cults or
> > even just spiritual communitites here...for the 
> > purpose of this question, you could include the
> > employees of a company whose PR image proudly 
> > proclaims that it provides "a perfect work envir-
> > onment," or a small town that bills itself as
> > "the perfect place to live." What I'm suggesting 
> > is that these self-polling data collection methods 
> > are (or should be) suspect when they are used in 
> > a community that exerts pressure on its members 
> > to conform to a "group image" of some sort.
> > 
> > For example, I would suspect that you would have
> > a completely different set of answers to the
> > "how happy are you" test in Fairfield, depend-
> > ing on who was administering the test. 
> > 
> > If it were being given by the TMO, you'd get the 
> > expected "very happy" answers. But if the test had
> > absolutely nothing to do with the TMO, and the
> > people being asked the questions knew that the 
> > data was theoretically never going to be seen by 
> > people in the TM movement, I would expect you'd
> > get a more balanced "happy" to "fairly happy" set 
> > of answers.  
> > 
> > This tendency to answer poll questions the way  
> > the questioners want you to answer them was a 
> > well known and oft-discussed phenomenon in the 
> > Psych and Sociology courses I took in college.  
> > We even did one experiment in which half the class 
> > was given a test to administer to subjects and told 
> > that they were trying to prove Theorem A, and the
> > other half of the class was given the same test
> > to administer (without knowing it was the same),
> > and told that they were trying to prove Theorem
> > B (the opposite).  Natch, the first group got  
> > results proving Theorem A and the second group got 
> > results proving the exact opposite, using the 
> > exact same test. I never forgot that experiment, 
> > and remain skeptical of all "polled" research data
> > to this day.
> >
>











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Re: [FairfieldLife] He ain't heavy, he's my brother...

[Rick Archer]

on 5/3/06 10:38 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> they're recognizing now that many of this morbidly
> obese people have something wrong with their
> hypothalamus which prevents them from experiencing
> being sated. they just don't have a subjective feeling
> of being full.

So do you cater to that and keep feeding them anyway? If you let them feel
hungry and limited their food intake, wouldn't they lose weight?








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[FairfieldLife] Re: He ain't heavy, he's my brother...

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> 
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >  
> > In a message dated 5/3/06 5:41:43 P.M. Central
> > Daylight Time,  
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > 
> > I don’t get it  with these super-heavy people.
> > They’re incapable of getting 
> > their own food.  Can’t the people who “care”
> > for them but them on a forced 
> > fast, under a  doctor’s supervision?  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I ask myself that also. There was one guy just like
> > this in  Nebraska whose 
> > wife just fed him whatever he wanted and pretended
> > not to notice  how big he 
> > was getting. I think some of these people have
> > others that really  love them and 
> > hate to see them have food withdrawals and see what
> > it does to  their 
> > personalities when they are withheld what they
> > believe they need. 
> 
> they're recognizing now that many of this morbidly
> obese people have something wrong with their
> hypothalamus which prevents them from experiencing
> being sated. they just don't have a subjective feeling
> of being full.

Have to think something more is involved with this
poor guy, though.  The newspaper story said he was
a "medical mystery" because his cholesterol and
blood pressure are normal, amazingly, and his heart
works just fine.










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Re: [FairfieldLife] He ain't heavy, he's my brother...

[Peter]

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  
> In a message dated 5/3/06 5:41:43 P.M. Central
> Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> I don’t get it  with these super-heavy people.
> They’re incapable of getting 
> their own food.  Can’t the people who “care”
> for them but them on a forced 
> fast, under a  doctor’s supervision?  
> 
> 
> 
> I ask myself that also. There was one guy just like
> this in  Nebraska whose 
> wife just fed him whatever he wanted and pretended
> not to notice  how big he 
> was getting. I think some of these people have
> others that really  love them and 
> hate to see them have food withdrawals and see what
> it does to  their 
> personalities when they are withheld what they
> believe they need. 

they're recognizing now that many of this morbidly
obese people have something wrong with their
hypothalamus which prevents them from experiencing
being sated. they just don't have a subjective feeling
of being full.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Computer Nirvana

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Alex (et al)
> > > 
> > > I disagree with this based on my personal experience.
> > > Four years ago I bought a Dell Dimension, I have it going
> > > probably 12 hours per day for business. It, too, has performed
> > > flawlessly for 4 straight years with zero problems. Finally,
> > > at 4 years it is starting to have some problems-slowing down,
> > > stalling a lot more. I'm good at tweaking it, keeping it clean,
> > > tracking down problems with it, and with all that it's still
> > > finally in need of replacement. I am so impressed with Dell
> > > that I am ordering a new one.
> > 
> > And, based on my personal experience, I still think a brand name
> > motherboard is crucial: My webserver, http://alex.natel.net/ , is an
> > old Micron system that I bought in 1998. It's a 733MHz Pentium III
> > running on a Tyan Trinity 400 motherboard.
> >  
> 
>  I agree with Alex about a quality motherboard. Although I have found
> that the corporate lines of the major makers are much more stable than
> the home user lines. In the past year I have done some large desktop
> migrations: 1250 IBM's for a health insurance co, 700 HP/Compaq's for
>  BOA, and 60 Dells for retail distribution center. All theses were
> corporate line machines, very stable and better constructed than I
> thought they would be. 
> 
>  For myself each generation of motherboards generall produces a low
> cost board or two that is fast, stable and flexible. The trick is
> picking them out of the crowd. In the Athlon era the Shuttle An35n was
> one, and I'm currently running an Asrock939DualSataII with a Dual core
> 4400+ (chip recommended by Akasha108). Both have been excellent
> running both gentoo linux and all versions of Windows including Server
> 2k3. The fun part is trying to pick the good ones before they get
> popular. Good quality powersupplys and memory are important as speed
> goes up. They all can be had at pretty resonable prices. If you elect
> to build your own check out a few enthusiast sites and you'll see a
> group of folks just below the hardcore folks that pick the best
> price/performance ratio stuff. That's the stuff to look at
> 
> JohnY

+++Thanks Alex and all. I would wonder if the higher price on the Dell
XPS-400 or Mac would indicate there were reliable components used. N.










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Re: [FairfieldLife] He ain't heavy, he's my brother...

[MDixon6569]

In a message dated 5/3/06 5:41:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don’t get it 
  with these super-heavy people. They’re incapable of getting their own food. 
  Can’t the people who “care” for them but them on a forced fast, under a 
  doctor’s supervision? 
  

I ask myself that also. There was one guy just like this in 
Nebraska whose wife just fed him whatever he wanted and pretended not to notice 
how big he was getting. I think some of these people have others that really 
love them and hate to see them have food withdrawals and see what it does to 
their personalities when they are withheld what they believe they need. 






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Re: [FairfieldLife] He ain't heavy, he's my brother...

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] He ain't heavy, he's my brother...





on 5/3/06 5:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 5/3/06 11:31:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
 Manuel Uribe sits  on his bed at home in Monterrey, Mexico in a January 17, 2006 file  photo. Uribe, who at 1,212 pounds is possibly the heaviest person in the  world, hopes to travel to Italy for a life-saving operation to shed  weight. REUTERS/Luis Reyes

Poor man. Hope he gets the help he needs and survives long enough  to gain some normalcy in his life.

I don’t get it with these super-heavy people. They’re incapable of getting their own food. Can’t the people who “care” for them but them on a forced fast, under a doctor’s supervision?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence

[Jason Spock]

       The old Judeo-christian texts, ie the old-testament was a con-job.  It worked well.         So, Prophet Muhammed plagarised the whole thing,  altered a few names here and there,  and turned it into a Jehadi con-job,  which worked just as well..!!         Right now there are atleast 3 billion people who still follow this Judeo-christian-Jehadi con-job.!  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 18:20:43
 EDTSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence     I have a feeling those virgins all High fiving each other right now!   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Release All Info on 9/11'

[MDixon6569]

In a message dated 5/3/06 5:31:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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Nimble 
  GimbelYou can findAll the secret infoYou needOn 9/11Up on 
  the grassy knoll...

No Shemp, some of the facts haven't been thought up 
yet.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Release All Info on 9/11'

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> Now is the time to pressure the govt.
>   To release all info on the 9/11 plot.
>   Now that the trial is over.
>   Let's see how negligent the govt. was;
>   In preventing this crime...
>   As it was used as a means to invade Iraq...




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You need
On 9/11
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence

[MDixon6569]

In a message dated 5/3/06 5:17:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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     Maussoui wanted to 
  go up and fuck with 70 virgins.  This court has denied him that 
  right.!!
  

I have a feeling those virgins all High fiving each other 
right now!





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Re: [FairfieldLife] He ain't heavy, he's my brother...

[MDixon6569]

In a message dated 5/3/06 11:31:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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  Manuel Uribe sits 
on his bed at home in Monterrey, Mexico in a January 17, 2006 file 
photo. Uribe, who at 1,212 pounds is possibly the heaviest person in the 
world, hopes to travel to Italy for a life-saving operation to shed 
weight. REUTERS/Luis Reyes

Poor man. Hope he gets the help he needs and survives long 
enough  to gain some normalcy in his 
life.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Release C.I.A. Report on 9/11'

[MDixon6569]

In a message dated 5/3/06 5:12:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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  Apparently there is a CIA report on 9/11;
  That was never released to the public;
  In light of the current administrations bungles;
  Wouldn't it be of essence in a free society;
  To know who was reponsible?
  Why is this report being kept from us?
   
  R.Gimbel  Seattle,WA.

Hey , do us a favor and demand to see it under the freedom of 
information act.





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[FairfieldLife] 'Release C.I.A. Report on 9/11'

[Robert Gimbel]

Apparently there is a CIA report on 9/11;  That was never released to the public;  In light of the current administrations bungles;  Wouldn't it be of essence in a free society;  To know who was reponsible?  Why is this report being kept from us?     R.Gimbel  Seattle,WA.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Britain's happiness in decline

[claudiouk]

Just saw the first of 6 BBC programmes on this series about 
happiness. The idea that happiness is the goal and things like money 
and pleasure are just a means to it was put forward by Aristotle. 
After a certain income - about $15,000 - any extra happiness from 
economic consumption is fleeting and has diminishing returns. 
Moreover whilst prosperity has trebled since the mid-fifties 
happiness has fallen from 52% then to just 36% today.

Yes these are "subjective" measures but they do seem to correlate 
with more tangible "effects". Smoking can cost 3 years of one's 
life; unhappiness 9 years. The "good feel" factor has attracted 
political interest but all governments are obsessed with GNP growth -
which we know won't make much difference to happiness.

However the first country to adopt National Happiness as its "GNP" 
is the Kingdom of Bhutan. Not sure how this works out in practice - 
so far they've decided to ban advertising boards and plastic bags!

I agree that questionnaires are rather rough measures and in a cult 
setting especially unreliable. But perhaps in future there might be 
brainwaves and other physiological measures that can be used in 
addition.

But I see this new "serious" interest in the happiness of the 
population as a positive development.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/happiness_formula/4771908.stm
> 
> Did you take the "Happiness Test" at that link?
> I scored "Highly Satisfied."  That and a couple
> of bucks will get me a cuppa java at Starbucks. :-)
> 
> But this article brings up the same question for
> me that another recently-posted article about
> relative happiness as measured by *asking* people
> whether they were happy or not did:
> 
>   How meaningful is the result of such polling in 
>   a cult community?
> 
> I'm not talking just about TM or real cults or
> even just spiritual communitites here...for the 
> purpose of this question, you could include the
> employees of a company whose PR image proudly 
> proclaims that it provides "a perfect work envir-
> onment," or a small town that bills itself as
> "the perfect place to live." What I'm suggesting 
> is that these self-polling data collection methods 
> are (or should be) suspect when they are used in 
> a community that exerts pressure on its members 
> to conform to a "group image" of some sort.
> 
> For example, I would suspect that you would have
> a completely different set of answers to the
> "how happy are you" test in Fairfield, depend-
> ing on who was administering the test. 
> 
> If it were being given by the TMO, you'd get the 
> expected "very happy" answers. But if the test had
> absolutely nothing to do with the TMO, and the
> people being asked the questions knew that the 
> data was theoretically never going to be seen by 
> people in the TM movement, I would expect you'd
> get a more balanced "happy" to "fairly happy" set 
> of answers.  
> 
> This tendency to answer poll questions the way  
> the questioners want you to answer them was a 
> well known and oft-discussed phenomenon in the 
> Psych and Sociology courses I took in college.  
> We even did one experiment in which half the class 
> was given a test to administer to subjects and told 
> that they were trying to prove Theorem A, and the
> other half of the class was given the same test
> to administer (without knowing it was the same),
> and told that they were trying to prove Theorem
> B (the opposite).  Natch, the first group got  
> results proving Theorem A and the second group got 
> results proving the exact opposite, using the 
> exact same test. I never forgot that experiment, 
> and remain skeptical of all "polled" research data
> to this day.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence

[Rick Archer]

on 5/3/06 4:36 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>> I just hope Moussoui has a great big horny cell mate with a  name
> like Bubba 
>> Epstein. I don't think they make them like that but sure would  be
> nice!
>> 
> 
> 
> I wonder whether being locked up in a cell for a lifetime would be a
> good opportunity for long rounding, or whether the karma of being in
> such a place would nullify any effects from meditating.
> 
> I seem to recall that Sri Aurobindo, who was in prison for a time, I
> think, said that prison was a good opportunity for meditating...

As long as your fellow prisoners allowed you to do so. Prisons can be very
noisy and unless you were locked away, you might not feel safe closing your
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[FairfieldLife] 'Release All Info on 9/11'

[Robert Gimbel]

Now is the time to pressure the govt.  To release all info on the 9/11 plot.  Now that the trial is over.  Let's see how negligent the govt. was;  In preventing this crime...  As it was used as a means to invade Iraq...      
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Scorpion-land wins!

[bob_brigante]

> > Study Shows Americans Sicker Than English 
> > 
> > By CARLA K. JOHNSON and MIKE STOBBE, Associated Press Writer 
> > 
> > CHICAGO - Middle-aged, white Americans are much sicker than their 
> > counterparts in England, startling new research shows, despite 
U.S. 
> health care spending per person that's more than double what England 
> spends.
> 
>

***

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Choice of language: the HEART of freedom of speech!

[bob_brigante]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "I think the national anthem ought to be sung in English, and I think
> people who want to be a citizen of this country ought to learn 
English
> and they ought to learn to sing the national anthem in English." 
>
 
> This is the full quote, which can easily be heard if you turn on the
> TV.  The issue here isn't really english-spanish, but the hypocrisy 
of
> a politician who used to regularly sing the national anthem in 
spanish
> at hispanic rallys saying the above with a straight face.
>

**

And besides the gross hypocrisy (big surprise!) Dumbya shows how 
really clueless he is once again, since his own State Dept. lists 
several versions of the Natl Anthem at its web site, according to 
today's Washington Post:

Administration Is Singing More Than One Tune on Spanish Version of 
Anthem

By Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 3, 2006; Page A06

President Bush declared last week that the national anthem should be 
sung in English not Spanish, but he evidently never told his own 
government or campaign organizations.

The State Department posts four Spanish versions of "The Star-Spangled 
Banner" on its Web site, and accounts from the 2000 election suggest 
that the song was at times performed in Spanish at Bush campaign 
events. Critics even turned up one reference to Bush himself singing 
the anthem in Spanish on the trail, but there was no confirmation.

 
The furor over a newly released Spanish version of the anthem has 
underscored once again the power of symbols in American politics. At a 
time when the immigration debate in Washington has divided Republicans 
on Capitol Hill, drawn hundreds of thousands of protesters into the 
streets and triggered a nationwide boycott, all sides are scrutinizing 
the words and records of the president and other politicians for signs 
of inconsistency.

Bush waded into the matter last week after British producer Adam 
Kidron issued " Nuestro Himno ." Responding to a reporter, Bush 
said: "I think the national anthem ought to be sung in English. And I 
think people who want to be a citizen of this country ought to learn 
English, and they ought to learn to sing the national anthem in 
English."

But Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice chose not to repeat his 
formulation Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation." "I've heard the 
national anthem done in rap versions, country versions, classical 
versions," she said. "The individualization of the American national 
anthem is quite underway."

And there seems little evidence that the matter had concerned Bush 
before. The Center for American Progress, a liberal group run by 
Clinton chief of staff John D. Podesta, posted on its blog a reference 
to Bush singing the anthem in Spanish. In his book, "American 
Dynasty," Kevin Phillips wrote that Bush "would drop in at Hispanic 
festivals and parties, sometimes joining in singing 'The Star-Spangled 
Banner' in Spanish, sometimes partying with a 'Viva Bush' mariachi 
band flown in from Texas."

White House spokesmen and former campaign operatives said they could 
not recall whether that happened, though given the level of Bush's 
Spanish proficiency, they seemed dubious.

"Honestly, I don't remember him ever singing the national anthem in 
Spanish," said Leonard Rodriguez, who was national director of 
Hispanic Coalition for Bush/Cheney 2000. "I can't see any of his 
advisers recommending it." But he added: "They may have played it. 
That's certainly in the realm of possibility." And Rodriguez said he 
does not recall Bush ever objecting to it.

The Center for American Progress also cited a news report that the 
anthem was performed in Spanish by singer Jon Secada at a 2001 
inauguration event, but Bush aides and most news accounts said he 
actually sang a Spanish version of "America the Beautiful."

Secada later performed "The Star-Spangled Banner" at the White House, 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Great photo site

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[FairfieldLife] Moussoui's Life sentence

[MDixon6569]

I just hope Moussoui has a great big horny cell mate with a 
name like Bubba Epstein. I don't think they make them like that but sure would 
be nice!





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[FairfieldLife] Brain mapping residence course -- Palm Springs

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[FairfieldLife] Great photo site

[anonyff]

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Choice of language: the HEART of freedom of speech!

[Rick Archer]

on 5/3/06 1:58 PM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> This is the full quote, which can easily be heard if you turn on the
> TV.  The issue here isn't really english-spanish, but the hypocrisy of
> a politician who used to regularly sing the national anthem in spanish
> at hispanic rallys saying the above with a straight face.

Even in English many people don't know the lyrics. Does anyone on this list
know anything beyond the first verse?








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Choice of language: the HEART of freedom of speech!

[markmeredith2002]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > wrote:
> > 
> > > > > > Turns out a Spanish rendition of the National Anthem
> > > > > > was a staple of Bush's appearances in his first
> > > > > > presidential campaign, sometimes sung by others,
> > > > > > sometimes by Bush himself.  And the Spanish version
> > > > > > was performed for him at his first inaugural.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Of course, Bush doesn't say above that the national anthem 
> > > > > should ONLY be sung in English.
> > > > 
> > > > Read it again, Shemp.
> > > 
> > > I did, Judy, and although the reporting says that, that isn't 
> what 
> > > is in quotes.  Read what I wrote, Judy: "...Bush doesn't say 
> > > above..." indicating quotes.
> > 
> > "The national anthem should be sung in English--not
> > Spanish--President Bush declared Friday" is what's
> > called an "indirect quote," Shemp.
> > 
> > > And, of course, you should realize that reporters often get 
> stuff 
> > > like this wrong.
> > 
> > Every report I've seen of this press conference, from
> > at least a dozen different media sources, understood
> > his remarks that way.  It's hard to understand them
> > any differently.
> > 
> > And here's another *direct* quote, from the NYTimes
> > account:
> > 
> > "Asked at a news briefing in the Rose Garden on Friday whether he 
> > believed the anthem would have the same value in Spanish as it did 
> in 
> > English, Mr. Bush said flatly, 'No, I don't.'"
 
> I now understand why you get so much wrong, Judy.  You simply don't 
> understand the English language and/or your innate prejudices make 
> you misunderstand what you read.
> 
> Of COURSE, singing the anthem in Spanish doesn't have the same value 
> as singing it in English...BUT that's not the same thing as saying 
> that it shouldn't be sung in Spanish.
> 
> Read it all again, Judy, VERY slowly.  
> 
> And, hey, reconsider your "indirect" quote comment because this is 
> at the heart of your confusion.

"I think the national anthem ought to be sung in English, and I think
people who want to be a citizen of this country ought to learn English
and they ought to learn to sing the national anthem in English." 

This is the full quote, which can easily be heard if you turn on the
TV.  The issue here isn't really english-spanish, but the hypocrisy of
a politician who used to regularly sing the national anthem in spanish
at hispanic rallys saying the above with a straight face.












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[FairfieldLife] Re: Speech by Salt Lake City mayor

[anony_sleuth_ff]

http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_3762929

Yes, SLC is quite liberal. Surrounding communities in SL county are
more conservative -- with liberal outposts. I would guess places like
Park City are liberal. As would be the mass armies of dope-smoking
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[FairfieldLife] China's New Drive on the African Continent

[Jason Spock]

    Online edition of India's National NewspaperOpinion - News Analysis       China's new push on the African continent      Pallavi Aiyar   Beijing is making a concerted effort to expand its economic and diplomatic clout. CHINESE PRESIDENT Hu Jintao's three-nation Africa tour to Morocco, Nigeria, and Kenya might have received only a sliver of the international limelight his much-heralded visit to the United States generated a week earlier, but in China itself the trip is seen as having
 considerable strategic weight.      Since the turn of the century when Beijing established the Sino-African Cooperation Forum, China has been making a concerted effort to expand its economic and diplomatic clout with the raw material rich continent. By combining handouts of billions of dollars in aid and investment with judicious rhetoric that alludes to the spirit of Bandung, Beijing is clearly looking to challenge U.S. leadership in the region. It is within this context that Mr. Hu's recent travels should be viewed.      As he stopped off across Africa last week, Mr. Hu stressed that Beijing wants a "strategic partnership" with Africa, seeking to add a new political dimension to the already blossoming bilateral economic romance. Speaking to Nigeria's Parliament, the Chinese President put forward a five-point proposal for developing ties in the areas of politics, the economy, culture,
 security, and international affairs.      According to reports in the African media, local analysts say Mr. Hu's stress on the "independence and sovereignty" of Africa is seen to offer an attractive alternative to the U.S.' interventionist and prescriptive foreign policy with its one-dimensional focus on the "war against terror."      Signalling the importance it gives to evolving a coherent Africa policy, Beijing brought out its first ever White Paper on Africa in January this year. It states that if African countries choose to accept the "one China principle as the political foundation for the establishment and development of China's relations with African countries," China will "co-ordinate positions on major international and regional issues and stand for mutual support on major issues concerning state sovereignty, territorial integrity, national dignity and
 human rights."      Given the economic benefits that trade and investment with China spell combined with the diplomatic weight of Beijing's permanent seat on the U.N. Security Council, it is small wonder that more and more African countries are in fact choosing to ditch ties with Taiwan and recognise Beijing's claim to sovereignty over the island. Thus while in the early 1990s there were still more than 20 African countries that recognised Taiwan, now there are only six.      In October last year, Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing attended the official opening of the Chinese embassy in Senegal, which had been closed after it recognised Taiwan in 1996. Following Senegal breaking off relations with Taiwan, Mr. Li announced debt cancellation worth $18.5 million, with $3.7 million for the construction of hospitals, roads, and other infrastructure. Liberia, another country to ditch Taiwan
 in 2003, received $25 million for reconstruction and the offer of a $5 million interest-free loan.      Bilateral trade between Africa and China surged to almost $40 billion in 2005 from $10 billion at the turn of the century, according to official Chinese statistics. Africa enjoyed a trade surplus of $2.38 billion. By the end of last year, some 750 Chinese enterprises had invested a total of $1.25 billion in the continent.      From Senegal to Ethiopia, China's "good-will" gifts and cheap products are proving a hit with both the people and their politicians. According to reports in African media, even in the fabled trading town of Timbuktu, the moped of choice for young men is the Chinese "Jin-Cheng."      Mr. Hu has been stressing the "complementarities" of the Chinese and African economies that promise much scope for the "win-win" situations
 so often touted by Chinese leaders.      In this case, however, there appears to be much truth underlying the diplomatic-speak. Africa provides rich pickings — particularly oil — for raw material hungry China while the Chinese can offer the expertise and investments much needed by African nations to develop infrastructure and kick-start industry.      Africa's Gulf of Guinea coastline has in particular attracted China's attention given that it is one of the world's oil exploration hotspots. With an economy that has been growing at around 10 per cent for years on the trot, China has emerged as the second largest oil importer after the U.S. Wooing Africa, even those countries shunned by the West such as Sudan, is thus a priority.      So far Beijing's Africa strategy has met with considerable success. During Mr. Hu's Nigeria's visit for example,
 China was awarded preferential rights in bidding for four oil-drilling lice

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: May 1st Illegal's boycott

[Bhairitu]

shempmcgurk wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
>
>> 
>>In a message dated 5/2/06 1:41:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>
>>Well my  gardener and crew came yesterday but then not everyone 
>>    
>>
>who is 
>  
>
>>Latino is  illegal.  The local Mexican takeout was open.  Same 
>>    
>>
>thing.   
>  
>
>>The housekeeper I used to have was Latino but born and raised in 
>>    
>>
>Los  
>  
>
>>Angeles.  She even had non-latinos on her  crew.
>>
>>
>>
>>Quite frankly I don't have anything against people coming  across 
>>    
>>
>the boarder 
>  
>
>>for work if it can be done orderly and legally. In fact I  would 
>>    
>>
>like a 
>  
>
>>system set up where we can have guest workers and the government 
>>    
>>
>of  Mexico pays 
>  
>
>>for their insurance, medical/legal, while they are here. But  
>>    
>>
>until something 
>  
>
>>like that can be negotiated I would also like to see the Great  
>>    
>>
>Wall of the 
>  
>
>>Southern Border built to stop the illegal  flow.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>Not me.
>
>I am on the sidelines cheering the illegals on.  The more, the 
>merrier, as far as I'm concerned.
>  
>
Spoken like a true NeoCon, shempmeister.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Speech by Salt Lake City mayor

[Bhairitu]

authfriend wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
>
>> 
>>In a message dated 5/3/06 10:22:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>
>>I'm  puzzled, because Utah is such a conservative state. Solidly  
>>Republican. Perhaps SLC is more liberal.
>>
>>I think most cities tend to be much more liberal than their
>>surrounding counties. I believe it's mainly due to it's inner city 
>>population, usually lots of minorities and elderly.
>>    
>>
>
>Actually Salt Lake City is less than 30 percent
>minority. Several other Utah cities have a higher
>percentage.  And elderly people are *less* likely
>to be liberal than younger people.
>
>  
>
Some of the Mormons I have known tend to be all over the place 
politically.  I think because the Mormons were victims of persecution 
some of them tend to cast a critical eye towards what is going on in the 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Speech by Salt Lake City mayor

[Bhairitu]

He's been a guest on some of the progressive talk shows.  If I'm not 
mistaken he ran a health and fitness club before becoming mayor.

Vaj wrote:

>[Note: A Mormon Utah mayor gave this speech.  He's hugely popular
>there, by the way.  Can you imagine even *one* lone congressional  
>Democrat
>giving this speech?  Conyers?  Doubtful.  Obama?  Hell, Obama supports
>most of what Anderson is criticizing here.  This is a program for taking
>back the country, if the Dems wanted to use it.  But they'd rather side
>with Bush.  Against the rest of us.  And I suspect Rocky Anderson will
>not be invited to speak at the Democratic Convention in 2008.]
>
>http://www.slcgov.com/mayor/speeches/2006%20speeches/ 
>SPiraqrally42906.pdf
>
>Rally at City & County Building
>Remarks of Mayor Ross C. Rocky Anderson
>April 29, 2006
>
>We are gathered here today to say, No more!
>
>No more killing.
>
>No more expenditures of almost $6 billion per month on this tragic
>war.
>
>No more denial of health care coverage for over 42 million
>Americans, when we are paying more for this outrageous war than what it
>would cost for universal health care throughout the US.
>
>No more dependence on foreign oil, while we could become
>independent if we focused resources wasted in the Iraq war on clean,
>renewable sources of energy.
>
>No more attacks on immigrants who work so hard to build better
>lives.
>
>No more inaction by Congress on fixing our hypocritical and
>inconsistent immigration laws and policies.
>
>No more complacency by our news media, much of which has served
>as little more than a bulletin board for false government propaganda.
>
>No more raping and pillaging of our people by the outrageous  
>profiteers in
>the oil industry, by the health care insurance industry, and by the
>billionaire buddies of Bush and Cheney like the crooks at Enron and
>Halliburton.
>
>No more war in Iraq.
>
>No more reliance on fiction rather than the science of global warming.
>
>No more historic deficits forever demonstrating that our President  
>and our
>Congress are total hypocrites and liars when they call themselves fiscal
>conservatives.
>
>No more torture of human beings.
>
>No more holding people in detention camps without charges  without
>lawyers  without any semblance of due process.
>
>No more sending people off to be held and interrogated in countries
>where torture and brutality is expected to occur.
>
>No more arrogant, blundering, incompetent leadership of our military.
>Which means no more Donald Rumsfeld.
>
>No more manipulation of our media.
>
>No more arrogance and incompetence posing as leadership in the
>White House.
>
>Which means no more Bush and Cheney!
>
>And no more arrogance, incompetence, and timidity posing as
>leadership in the United States Congress.
>
>No more illegal wiretapping without warrants.
>
>No more complacency by the American people.
>
>No more members of Congress who voted to turn into felons 12
>million people our nation has encouraged to come here to work.
>
>No more disastrous cuts in funding for those most in need in our
>cities.
>
>No more destruction of American Indian urban health care centers.
>
>No more cuts in Community Development Block Grant funding.
>
>No more cuts in Community Oriented Policing federal funding for our
>cities.
>
>No more lies about a tie between Iraq and 9-11.
>
>Which means no more Dick Cheney.
>
>No more butchering of the English language.
>
>Which means, of course, no more George Bush.
>
>No more killing thousands of innocent people.
>
>Which means no more of the Bush Administration.
>
>And no more of those in Congress who have sat passively by while
>the slaughter continues.
>
>No more killing.
>
>No more maiming of men, women, and children, Iraqi and American.
>No more apathy by the American people.
>
>And no more refraining from saying No more!
>
>We are gathered here today because we care deeply. We are gathered today
>because we cant and wont remain silent in the face of tragic dishonesty,
>tragic violations of international law and human rights, outrageous war
>mongering, and continually shifting excuses for beginning the war a war
>that has resulted in the unnecessary deaths of probably more than  
>100,000
>Iraqis and almost 2400 American members of the United States armed  
>forces.
>Add to that tragedy the terrible injuries sustained by tens of thousands
>of people, and our nations conscience will forever be shocked and
>burdened.
>
>We are not gathered because we are Democrats or Republicans or
>Greens or Independents or members of any other party.
>
>We are not even because we are disgusted with the complacency,
>impotence, and timidity of so many so-called leaders in both of the  
>major
>parties.
>
>We are not gathered here because we seek to divide this nation. In
>fact, we seek to unify this great country behind principles of justice,
>compassion and an end to an outrageous, unnecessary war.
>
>And we are not here because we are nut cakes.
>
>There are t

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Scorpion-land wins!

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    I heard that Hillary Clinton's Health-care reforms were a flop.  Does anyone know what kind of Health-Care Reforms does the US need.??     feste37  wrote:  Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 19:47:10 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Scorpion-land wins!     Study Shows Americans Sicker Than English By CARLA K. JOHNSON and MIKE STOBBE, Associated Press Writer CHICAGO -
 Middle-aged, white Americans are much sicker than their counterparts in England, startling new research shows, despite U.S. health care spending per person that's more than double what England spends.    ADVERTISEMENTA higher rate of Americans tested positive for diabetes and heart disease than the English. Americans also self-reported more diabetes, heart attacks, strokes, lung disease and cancer.The gap between the countries holds true for educated and uneducated, rich and poor."At every point in the social hierarchy there is more illness in the United States than in England and the differences are really dramatic," said study co-author Dr. Michael Marmot, an epidemiologist at University College London in England.The study, appearing in Wednesday's Journal of the American Medical Association, adds context to the already-known fact that the United States spends more on
 health care than any other industrialized nation, yet trails in rankings of life expectancy.The United States spends about $5,200 per person on health care while England spends about half that in adjusted dollars."Everybody should be discussing it: Why isn't the richest country in the world the healthiest country in the world?" Marmot said."It's something of a mystery," said Richard Suzman of the U.S. National Institutes of Health, which helped fund the study.The researchers looked for answers in the data, which came from government-sponsored health surveys. The research was supported by grants from government agencies in both countries. A U.S. researcher from the Rand Corp. was on the team.Smoking rates are about the same on both sides of the pond. The English have a higher rate of heavy drinking, but a higher percentage of Americans are obese.The researchers crunched numbers to create a hypothetical statistical
 world in which the English had American lifestyle risk factors, including being as fat as Americans. In that model, the researchers found Americans still would be sicker.Only non-Hispanic whites were included in the study to eliminate the influence of racial disparities. The researchers looked only at people ages 55 through 64, and the average age of the samples was the same.Americans reported twice the rate of diabetes compared to the English: 12.5 percent versus 6 percent. For high blood pressure, it was 42 percent for Americans versus 34 percent for the English; cancer showed up in 9.5 percent of Americans compared to 5.5 percent of English.The upper crust in both countries was healthier than middle-class and low-income people in the same country. But richer Americans' health status resembled the health of the low-income British.Health experts have known the U.S. population is less healthy than that of other industrialized nations,
 according to several important measurements. U.S. life expectancy, for example, ranks behind that of about two dozen other countries, according to the World Health Organization.Some have believed the U.S. has lagged because it has a more ethnically diverse population than some of the higher-ranking countries, said Suzman, who heads the National Institute on Aging's Behavioral and Social Research Program. "Minority health in general is worse than white health," he said.But the new study showed that when minorities are removed from the equation, and adjustments are made to control for education and income, white people in England are still healthier than white people in the United States."As far as I know, this is the first study showing this," said Suzman who called the results "surprising." But some other experts said the findings were predictable. Earlier studies have shown the United States does a poorer job than other industrialized
 countries at providing primary medical care to its citizens, particularly to those with less education and income, said Dr. Barbara Starfield, a professor of health policy and pediatrics at Johns Hopkins University. "Countries oriented toward providing good primary care basically do better in health," she said. Marmot offered yet another explanation for the gap: Americans' financial insecurity. Improvements in household income have eluded all but the top fifth of Americans since the mid-1970s. Meanwhile, English citizens saw their incomes improve, he said. Robert Blendon, a professor of health policy at the Harvard School of Public Health who was not involved in the study, said the stress of striving for the American dream may account for Americans' lousy health. "The opportunity to go both up and down the socio-eco

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Choice of language: the HEART of freedom of speech!

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > wrote:
> 
> > > > > Turns out a Spanish rendition of the National Anthem
> > > > > was a staple of Bush's appearances in his first
> > > > > presidential campaign, sometimes sung by others,
> > > > > sometimes by Bush himself.  And the Spanish version
> > > > > was performed for him at his first inaugural.
> > > > 
> > > > Of course, Bush doesn't say above that the national anthem 
> > > > should ONLY be sung in English.
> > > 
> > > Read it again, Shemp.
> > 
> > I did, Judy, and although the reporting says that, that isn't 
what 
> > is in quotes.  Read what I wrote, Judy: "...Bush doesn't say 
> > above..." indicating quotes.
> 
> "The national anthem should be sung in English--not
> Spanish--President Bush declared Friday" is what's
> called an "indirect quote," Shemp.
> 
> > And, of course, you should realize that reporters often get 
stuff 
> > like this wrong.
> 
> Every report I've seen of this press conference, from
> at least a dozen different media sources, understood
> his remarks that way.  It's hard to understand them
> any differently.
> 
> And here's another *direct* quote, from the NYTimes
> account:
> 
> "Asked at a news briefing in the Rose Garden on Friday whether he 
> believed the anthem would have the same value in Spanish as it did 
in 
> English, Mr. Bush said flatly, 'No, I don't.'"




I now understand why you get so much wrong, Judy.  You simply don't 
understand the English language and/or your innate prejudices make 
you misunderstand what you read.

Of COURSE, singing the anthem in Spanish doesn't have the same value 
as singing it in English...BUT that's not the same thing as saying 
that it shouldn't be sung in Spanish.

Read it all again, Judy, VERY slowly.  

And, hey, reconsider your "indirect" quote comment because this is 
at the heart of your confusion.



> 
> So if he thinks it has less value sung in Spanish,
> why did he have it sung in Spanish at his first
> inauguration and his campaign appearances and even
> sing it himself in Spanish?  Was he suggesting that
> his allegiance to this country wasn't as great as
> that of people who prefer the anthem in English?
> 
> Now would you like to comment on his hypocrisy, or
> are you going to continue to try to wiggle out of
> the obvious?
>













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[FairfieldLife] Re: Speech by Salt Lake City mayor

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 5/3/06 10:22:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> I'm  puzzled, because Utah is such a conservative state. Solidly  
> Republican. Perhaps SLC is more liberal.
> 
> I think most cities tend to be much more liberal than their
> surrounding counties. I believe it's mainly due to it's inner city 
> population, usually lots of minorities and elderly.

Actually Salt Lake City is less than 30 percent
minority. Several other Utah cities have a higher
percentage.  And elderly people are *less* likely
to be liberal than younger people.






 The others try to get out to the  suburbs, out of 
> the city limits, to live and generally commute back and  forth to 
work. I think 
> this would be especially true of solidly republican  states like 
Utah and 
> Texas. Houston almost always has a Democratic  Mayor.
>










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
> wrote:
> 
> > > > In this case, I would think that the person you are recom-
> > > > mending this approach to really would benefit more from
> > > > the *opposite* approach -- a heavy regimen of focus and
> > > > focused intent. But that's a guess on my part, and it's 
> > > > irrelevant in any case because she's firmly locked into 
> > > > Waiting Mode, probably for the rest of the incarnation.
> > > > There is not an ice cube's chance in Hell that she's
> > > > ever going to try anything new, ever again in this life
> > > > so any suggestions to the contrary are just wasted breath.
> > > 
> > > Neither Tom nor Barry has the *foggiest* idea of what
> > > my approach is.  Neither seems to be capable of
> > > conceiving of an approach that is neither "throw in the
> > > towel" nor "Waiting Mode" nor "a heavy regimen of focus
> > > and focused intent."
> > > 
> > > And of course in his current little rant Barry is
> > > contradicting himself six ways to Sunday.  In earlier
> > > posts he's mocked those who take the "seeker" approach
> > > of *trying* to become enlightened instead of simply
> > > being open to enlightenment; likewise he has dumped
> > > on people for not trusting their own experience.
> > > 
> > > And here he's advocating that I do both.
> > 
> > Its Brahman Barry. He IS the paradox of Brahman. 
> > 
> > "This is true (and you are a total dumbshit for not beleiving it).
> > And btw that (complete opposite) is true (and you are a total 
> > dumbshit for not beleiving it). And though I see Self in all 
> > beings, I am way better than you."
> 
> The idea is to maximize the number of opportunities
> he has to call somebody he doesn't like a dumbshit and
> maintain that he's better than they are.  The coherence
> of the specific positions he has to take to accomplish
> this is entirely irrelevant.

Actually, the more inconsistent and incoherent the
better, because it gives him yet another opportunity
to call those who point this out dumbshits for valuing
consistency and coherence.

It's called "making a virtue of necessity," given that
clear thinking has never been Barry's strong point and
that he's compulsively driven to label as many people as
possible dumbshits in order to convince himself that
he's not the dumbest shit of all.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
wrote:

> > > In this case, I would think that the person you are recom-
> > > mending this approach to really would benefit more from
> > > the *opposite* approach -- a heavy regimen of focus and
> > > focused intent. But that's a guess on my part, and it's 
> > > irrelevant in any case because she's firmly locked into 
> > > Waiting Mode, probably for the rest of the incarnation.
> > > There is not an ice cube's chance in Hell that she's
> > > ever going to try anything new, ever again in this life
> > > so any suggestions to the contrary are just wasted breath.
> > 
> > Neither Tom nor Barry has the *foggiest* idea of what
> > my approach is.  Neither seems to be capable of
> > conceiving of an approach that is neither "throw in the
> > towel" nor "Waiting Mode" nor "a heavy regimen of focus
> > and focused intent."
> > 
> > And of course in his current little rant Barry is
> > contradicting himself six ways to Sunday.  In earlier
> > posts he's mocked those who take the "seeker" approach
> > of *trying* to become enlightened instead of simply
> > being open to enlightenment; likewise he has dumped
> > on people for not trusting their own experience.
> > 
> > And here he's advocating that I do both.
> 
> Its Brahman Barry. He IS the paradox of Brahman. 
> 
> "This is true (and you are a total dumbshit for not beleiving it).
> And btw that (complete opposite) is true (and you are a total 
> dumbshit for not beleiving it). And though I see Self in all 
> beings, I am way better than you."

The idea is to maximize the number of opportunities
he has to call somebody he doesn't like a dumbshit and
maintain that he's better than they are.  The coherence
of the specific positions he has to take to accomplish
this is entirely irrelevant.











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Re: [FairfieldLife] Speech by Salt Lake City mayor

[MDixon6569]

In a message dated 5/3/06 10:22:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm 
  puzzled, because Utah is such a conservative state. Solidly 
  Republican.Perhaps SLC is more liberal.

I think most cities tend to be much more liberal than their 
surrounding counties. I believe it's mainly due to it's inner city population, 
usually lots of minorities and elderly. The others try to get out to the 
suburbs, out of the city limits, to live and generally commute back and 
forth to work. I think this would be especially true of solidly republican 
states like Utah and Texas. Houston almost always has a Democratic 
Mayor.





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[FairfieldLife] Bush Sings Anthem in Spanish

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes

[anony_sleuth_ff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In 
> > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" 
> >  wrote:
> 
> > > Throw in the towel and see what can happen. Being a not seeker 
> > > may be a new and wondeful experience full of freedom. What have 
> > > you got to lose. You haven't gotten it with all that seeking. Tom
> > 
> > Tom, I understand why you feel this way. (IMO, of course.)
> > It's because this approach worked for you. So naturally,
> > you think it'll work for everyone. I have no such illusions.
> > "Different strokes for different folks" is not just about
> > preferences...it's about predilection, a way of saying that 
> > the approach to enlightenment that allows some people to 
> > realize it Just Wouldn't Work for other people.
> > 
> > In this case, I would think that the person you are recom-
> > mending this approach to really would benefit more from
> > the *opposite* approach -- a heavy regimen of focus and
> > focused intent. But that's a guess on my part, and it's 
> > irrelevant in any case because she's firmly locked into 
> > Waiting Mode, probably for the rest of the incarnation.
> > There is not an ice cube's chance in Hell that she's
> > ever going to try anything new, ever again in this life
> > so any suggestions to the contrary are just wasted breath.
> 
> Neither Tom nor Barry has the *foggiest* idea of what
> my approach is.  Neither seems to be capable of
> conceiving of an approach that is neither "throw in the
> towel" nor "Waiting Mode" nor "a heavy regimen of focus
> and focused intent."
> 
> And of course in his current little rant Barry is
> contradicting himself six ways to Sunday.  In earlier
> posts he's mocked those who take the "seeker" approach
> of *trying* to become enlightened instead of simply
> being open to enlightenment; likewise he has dumped
> on people for not trusting their own experience.
> 
> And here he's advocating that I do both.

Its Brahman Barry. He IS the paradox of Brahman. 

"This is true (and you are a total dumbshit for not beleiving it). And
btw that (complete opposite) is true (and you are a total dumbshit for
not beleiving it). And though I see Self in all beings, I am way
better than you."











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Speech by Salt Lake City mayor

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
 
> [Note: A Mormon Utah mayor gave this speech.  He's hugely popular
> there, by the way.  Can you imagine even *one* lone congressional
> Democrat giving this speech?

Actually, a number of congressional Democrats have
given very similar speeches.

> Conyers?  Doubtful.  Obama?  Hell, 
> Obama supports most of what Anderson is criticizing here.

I gather Vaj is quite unfamiliar with the records and
positions of either of these Democrats.

The mayor's speech was terrific, more eloquent than
most.

But this...

> This is a program for taking back the country, if the Dems wanted 
> to use it.  But they'd rather side with Bush.  Against the rest
> of us.

...is utterly absurd and smacks of Vaj having been
thoroughly taken in by the favored storylines of the
mainstream media (none of which, by the way, have
seen fit to report on the mayor's speech).











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Re: [FairfieldLife] Speech by Salt Lake City mayor

[Rick Archer]

on 5/3/06 8:17 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> [Note: A Mormon Utah mayor gave this speech.  He's hugely popular
> there, by the way.  Can you imagine even *one* lone congressional
> Democrat
> giving this speech?

I'm puzzled, because Utah is such a conservative state. Solidly Republican.
Perhaps SLC is more liberal.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Computer Nirvana

[anony_sleuth_ff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Alex (et al)
> > > 
> > > I disagree with this based on my personal experience.
> > > Four years ago I bought a Dell Dimension, I have it going
> > > probably 12 hours per day for business. It, too, has performed
> > > flawlessly for 4 straight years with zero problems. Finally,
> > > at 4 years it is starting to have some problems-slowing down,
> > > stalling a lot more. I'm good at tweaking it, keeping it clean,
> > > tracking down problems with it, and with all that it's still
> > > finally in need of replacement. I am so impressed with Dell
> > > that I am ordering a new one.
> > 
> > And, based on my personal experience, I still think a brand name
> > motherboard is crucial: My webserver, http://alex.natel.net/ , is an
> > old Micron system that I bought in 1998. It's a 733MHz Pentium III
> > running on a Tyan Trinity 400 motherboard.
> >  
> 
>  I agree with Alex about a quality motherboard. Although I have found
> that the corporate lines of the major makers are much more stable than
> the home user lines. In the past year I have done some large desktop
> migrations: 1250 IBM's for a health insurance co, 700 HP/Compaq's for
>  BOA, and 60 Dells for retail distribution center. All theses were
> corporate line machines, very stable and better constructed than I
> thought they would be. 
> 
>  For myself each generation of motherboards generall produces a low
> cost board or two that is fast, stable and flexible. The trick is
> picking them out of the crowd. In the Athlon era the Shuttle An35n was
> one, and I'm currently running an Asrock939DualSataII with a Dual core
> 4400+ (chip recommended by Akasha108). Both have been excellent
> running both gentoo linux and all versions of Windows including Server
> 2k3. The fun part is trying to pick the good ones before they get
> popular. Good quality powersupplys and memory are important as speed
> goes up. They all can be had at pretty resonable prices. If you elect
> to build your own check out a few enthusiast sites and you'll see a
> group of folks just below the hardcore folks that pick the best
> price/performance ratio stuff. That's the stuff to look at
> 
> JohnY


http://www.extremetech.com/default/0,1556,,00.asp

I find ExtremeTech is a good information source. And past articles of
reviews is helpful.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In 
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" 
>  wrote:

> > Throw in the towel and see what can happen. Being a not seeker 
> > may be a new and wondeful experience full of freedom. What have 
> > you got to lose. You haven't gotten it with all that seeking. Tom
> 
> Tom, I understand why you feel this way. (IMO, of course.)
> It's because this approach worked for you. So naturally,
> you think it'll work for everyone. I have no such illusions.
> "Different strokes for different folks" is not just about
> preferences...it's about predilection, a way of saying that 
> the approach to enlightenment that allows some people to 
> realize it Just Wouldn't Work for other people.
> 
> In this case, I would think that the person you are recom-
> mending this approach to really would benefit more from
> the *opposite* approach -- a heavy regimen of focus and
> focused intent. But that's a guess on my part, and it's 
> irrelevant in any case because she's firmly locked into 
> Waiting Mode, probably for the rest of the incarnation.
> There is not an ice cube's chance in Hell that she's
> ever going to try anything new, ever again in this life
> so any suggestions to the contrary are just wasted breath.

Neither Tom nor Barry has the *foggiest* idea of what
my approach is.  Neither seems to be capable of
conceiving of an approach that is neither "throw in the
towel" nor "Waiting Mode" nor "a heavy regimen of focus
and focused intent."

And of course in his current little rant Barry is
contradicting himself six ways to Sunday.  In earlier
posts he's mocked those who take the "seeker" approach
of *trying* to become enlightened instead of simply
being open to enlightenment; likewise he has dumped
on people for not trusting their own experience.

And here he's advocating that I do both.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Choice of language: the HEART of freedom of speech!

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:

> > > > Turns out a Spanish rendition of the National Anthem
> > > > was a staple of Bush's appearances in his first
> > > > presidential campaign, sometimes sung by others,
> > > > sometimes by Bush himself.  And the Spanish version
> > > > was performed for him at his first inaugural.
> > > 
> > > Of course, Bush doesn't say above that the national anthem 
> > > should ONLY be sung in English.
> > 
> > Read it again, Shemp.
> 
> I did, Judy, and although the reporting says that, that isn't what 
> is in quotes.  Read what I wrote, Judy: "...Bush doesn't say 
> above..." indicating quotes.

"The national anthem should be sung in English--not
Spanish--President Bush declared Friday" is what's
called an "indirect quote," Shemp.

> And, of course, you should realize that reporters often get stuff 
> like this wrong.

Every report I've seen of this press conference, from
at least a dozen different media sources, understood
his remarks that way.  It's hard to understand them
any differently.

And here's another *direct* quote, from the NYTimes
account:

"Asked at a news briefing in the Rose Garden on Friday whether he 
believed the anthem would have the same value in Spanish as it did in 
English, Mr. Bush said flatly, 'No, I don't.'"

So if he thinks it has less value sung in Spanish,
why did he have it sung in Spanish at his first
inauguration and his campaign appearances and even
sing it himself in Spanish?  Was he suggesting that
his allegiance to this country wasn't as great as
that of people who prefer the anthem in English?

Now would you like to comment on his hypocrisy, or
are you going to continue to try to wiggle out of
the obvious?










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[FairfieldLife] FWIW?

[cardemaister]

Mr Fastfinger:

http://guitarshredshow.com/










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Speech by Salt Lake City mayor

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> [Note: A Mormon Utah mayor gave this speech.  He's hugely popular
> there, by the way.  Can you imagine even *one* lone congressional  
> Democrat
> giving this speech?  Conyers?  Doubtful.  Obama?  Hell, Obama 
supports
> most of what Anderson is criticizing here.  This is a program for 
taking
> back the country, if the Dems wanted to use it.  But they'd rather 
side
> with Bush.  Against the rest of us.  And I suspect Rocky Anderson 
will
> not be invited to speak at the Democratic Convention in 2008.]
> 
> http://www.slcgov.com/mayor/speeches/2006%20speeches/ 
> SPiraqrally42906.pdf
> 
Thanks for posting this. Now, more than we ever have before do we 
need the internet as an alternate news channel.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: May 1st Illegal's boycott

[jyouells2000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Anthony Sumner"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You, like the other European descendants who think this is your land
are 
> quite narrow minded and complete fools!   For starters we can get
that war 
> criminal and his cronies out of the White House and then get some
one with 
> intelligence and wisdom in the White House to work with the Mexican
gov't 
> and get this immigration issue resolve and on to the next pressing
issue(s) 
> that confront the whole of humanity.
> 
> Never forget what MMY said,  "Peace on Earth will be Powerful, when
Power on 
> Earth will be Peaceful".  Right now as I seen it, the power of ego 
> dominates, at least on the geopolitical landscape of our planet.  Which 
> unfortunately affects almost all of us.   Thank Mother Divine for 
> Incarnating and hopefully soon this nightmare called the bush
administration 
> will be over soon.

Mother Divine always told me She votes Republican! What a Scamp!

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Computer Nirvana

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Alex (et al)
> 
> I disagree with this based on my personal experience.
> Four years ago I bought a Dell Dimension, I have it going
> probably 12 hours per day for business. It, too, has performed
> flawlessly for 4 straight years with zero problems. Finally,
> at 4 years it is starting to have some problems-slowing down,
> stalling a lot more. I'm good at tweaking it, keeping it clean,
> tracking down problems with it, and with all that it's still
> finally in need of replacement. I am so impressed with Dell
> that I am ordering a new one.

And, based on my personal experience, I still think a brand name
motherboard is crucial: My webserver, http://alex.natel.net/ , is an
old Micron system that I bought in 1998. It's a 733MHz Pentium III
running on a Tyan Trinity 400 motherboard.
 
>  -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > +++  Hey Alex, wish I could have a little of the boredom as I have a
> > > serious shortage- haven't had any in the last 50 years.
> > >  Would you have some time on the weekend to debate on what
> > > computer equipment to buy as I am needing to upgrade.
> > >  It looks like you have quite a bit of expierience with the
> > > subject and would be a great help.  thanks,  N.
> > 
> > For desktop PCs, I always advise against buying from the big PC
> > manufacturers (Dell, HP, Gateway, etc.) because they're usually made
> > with proprietary components that are not likely to be as robust as
> > brand name components. My current desktop machine, which I bought a
> > few years ago, is from http://www.endpcnoise.com/ , and it has
> > performed flawlessly. Quality brand name components (especially the
> > motherboard) make all the difference.
> > 
> > Since there is no standardized form factor for laptops, they are all
> > proprietary. Right now I have two laptops. One is an old Dell Latitude
> > C610 that I bought as a refurb from http://usanotebook.com/ . It's
> > been fine except for the touchpad going wonky on occasion (a known
> > issue with this model). The other one is an Averatec 4200 series that
> > I got from http://newegg.com/ , and it has been a fine little machine
> > and a lot of computer for not a lot of money. Petra has one too, and
> > her only complaint is short battery life.
> > 
> > 'Zat help?
> >
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Scorpion-land wins!

[uns_tressor]

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> Don't worry Uns, you've still got Peter Crouch 
and Emile Heskey available!

Alas, these are not in the Wunderkind's league. We 
are in National mourning, and only the light of 
bbrigante's continuing foolishness (see below) keeps
our spirits up.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Speech by Salt Lake City mayor

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> [Note: A Mormon Utah mayor gave this speech.  He's hugely popular
> there, by the way.  

Gee, I wonder why?  Could it be the novelty of
discovering a politician who still has a pair?

Nice find, Vaj.












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[FairfieldLife] The Dangers of MySpace

[Vaj]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/05/03/myspace_terms/print.html

Murdoch wants teenagers'...
By Mark Ballard
Published Wednesday 3rd May 2006 11:32 GMT

Teenagers should beware of Murdoch-owned website MySpace.com snatching
their digital identities, child campaigners have warned.

Freechildsafeweb.com, which lobbies for the safe use of MySpace, said
small print in the new terms and conditions, introduced since the
acquisition of MySpace by News Corporation last year, could mean that
careless content posted by teenagers could come back to haunt them later
in life.

"If you post risque images as a teen and later move into professional
life, these images along with any comments, journals and  
conversations can
be sold to the press and there is nothing you can do. It is worth
remembering, the owners of Myspace.com - News Corp - are the Press," an
unattributed article on Freechildsafeweb said yesterday.

Approximately 68m people use MySpace as a personal exhibition space and
networking club. Many of these would have originally agreed to terms and
conditions, (retained
(http://www.freechildsafeweb.com/MySpaceTerms_Cached.htm#PostingContent)
by Freechildsafeweb), that give the website non-exclusive rights to use
the material they display there, but only while they keep it there.

"This license will terminate at the time you remove such content from  
the
website," the old terms read.

However, new terms (http://collect.myspace.com/misc/terms.html?z=1)
introduced after News Corp's acquisition of MySpace, extend the  
website's
rights over any content their users upload.

They give MySpace "non-exclusive, fully-paid and royalty-free" worldwide
license and sub-licensing rights "to use, copy, modify, adapt,  
translate,
publicly perform, publicly display, store, reproduce, transmit, and
distribute" any matter posted by its users, including "messages, text,
files, images, photos, video, sounds, profiles, works of authorship, or
any other materials".

"Content posted by you may remain on the MySpace.com servers after you
have removed the content from the services, and MySpace.com retains the
rights to those copies," it adds.

Paul Varney of Freechildsafeweb contacted The Register by email to  
air his
concern:

"I want to bring this to the attention of the 65M+ (MySpace) users, as
many I feel are perhaps not aware of these very different terms,
especially band recordings, or young teens who post content that may  
come
back to bite them in later years," he said.

MySpace was unavailable for comment.







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[FairfieldLife] Speech by Salt Lake City mayor

[Vaj]

[Note: A Mormon Utah mayor gave this speech.  He's hugely popular
there, by the way.  Can you imagine even *one* lone congressional  
Democrat
giving this speech?  Conyers?  Doubtful.  Obama?  Hell, Obama supports
most of what Anderson is criticizing here.  This is a program for taking
back the country, if the Dems wanted to use it.  But they'd rather side
with Bush.  Against the rest of us.  And I suspect Rocky Anderson will
not be invited to speak at the Democratic Convention in 2008.]

http://www.slcgov.com/mayor/speeches/2006%20speeches/ 
SPiraqrally42906.pdf

Rally at City & County Building
Remarks of Mayor Ross C. Rocky Anderson
April 29, 2006

We are gathered here today to say, No more!

No more killing.

No more expenditures of almost $6 billion per month on this tragic
war.

No more denial of health care coverage for over 42 million
Americans, when we are paying more for this outrageous war than what it
would cost for universal health care throughout the US.

No more dependence on foreign oil, while we could become
independent if we focused resources wasted in the Iraq war on clean,
renewable sources of energy.

No more attacks on immigrants who work so hard to build better
lives.

No more inaction by Congress on fixing our hypocritical and
inconsistent immigration laws and policies.

No more complacency by our news media, much of which has served
as little more than a bulletin board for false government propaganda.

No more raping and pillaging of our people by the outrageous  
profiteers in
the oil industry, by the health care insurance industry, and by the
billionaire buddies of Bush and Cheney like the crooks at Enron and
Halliburton.

No more war in Iraq.

No more reliance on fiction rather than the science of global warming.

No more historic deficits forever demonstrating that our President  
and our
Congress are total hypocrites and liars when they call themselves fiscal
conservatives.

No more torture of human beings.

No more holding people in detention camps without charges  without
lawyers  without any semblance of due process.

No more sending people off to be held and interrogated in countries
where torture and brutality is expected to occur.

No more arrogant, blundering, incompetent leadership of our military.
Which means no more Donald Rumsfeld.

No more manipulation of our media.

No more arrogance and incompetence posing as leadership in the
White House.

Which means no more Bush and Cheney!

And no more arrogance, incompetence, and timidity posing as
leadership in the United States Congress.

No more illegal wiretapping without warrants.

No more complacency by the American people.

No more members of Congress who voted to turn into felons 12
million people our nation has encouraged to come here to work.

No more disastrous cuts in funding for those most in need in our
cities.

No more destruction of American Indian urban health care centers.

No more cuts in Community Development Block Grant funding.

No more cuts in Community Oriented Policing federal funding for our
cities.

No more lies about a tie between Iraq and 9-11.

Which means no more Dick Cheney.

No more butchering of the English language.

Which means, of course, no more George Bush.

No more killing thousands of innocent people.

Which means no more of the Bush Administration.

And no more of those in Congress who have sat passively by while
the slaughter continues.

No more killing.

No more maiming of men, women, and children, Iraqi and American.
No more apathy by the American people.

And no more refraining from saying No more!

We are gathered here today because we care deeply. We are gathered today
because we cant and wont remain silent in the face of tragic dishonesty,
tragic violations of international law and human rights, outrageous war
mongering, and continually shifting excuses for beginning the war a war
that has resulted in the unnecessary deaths of probably more than  
100,000
Iraqis and almost 2400 American members of the United States armed  
forces.
Add to that tragedy the terrible injuries sustained by tens of thousands
of people, and our nations conscience will forever be shocked and
burdened.

We are not gathered because we are Democrats or Republicans or
Greens or Independents or members of any other party.

We are not even because we are disgusted with the complacency,
impotence, and timidity of so many so-called leaders in both of the  
major
parties.

We are not gathered here because we seek to divide this nation. In
fact, we seek to unify this great country behind principles of justice,
compassion and an end to an outrageous, unnecessary war.

And we are not here because we are nut cakes.

There are those who have said, Stand behind our President, right or
wrong. They say, We are duty-bound to follow and support them.

We are gathered here today to insist there are much higher authorities
than George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld to whom we must
listen for moral guidance.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Britain's happiness in decline

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/happiness_formula/4771908.stm

Did you take the "Happiness Test" at that link?
I scored "Highly Satisfied."  That and a couple
of bucks will get me a cuppa java at Starbucks. :-)

But this article brings up the same question for
me that another recently-posted article about
relative happiness as measured by *asking* people
whether they were happy or not did:

  How meaningful is the result of such polling in 
  a cult community?

I'm not talking just about TM or real cults or
even just spiritual communitites here...for the 
purpose of this question, you could include the
employees of a company whose PR image proudly 
proclaims that it provides "a perfect work envir-
onment," or a small town that bills itself as
"the perfect place to live." What I'm suggesting 
is that these self-polling data collection methods 
are (or should be) suspect when they are used in 
a community that exerts pressure on its members 
to conform to a "group image" of some sort.

For example, I would suspect that you would have
a completely different set of answers to the
"how happy are you" test in Fairfield, depend-
ing on who was administering the test. 

If it were being given by the TMO, you'd get the 
expected "very happy" answers. But if the test had
absolutely nothing to do with the TMO, and the
people being asked the questions knew that the 
data was theoretically never going to be seen by 
people in the TM movement, I would expect you'd
get a more balanced "happy" to "fairly happy" set 
of answers.  

This tendency to answer poll questions the way  
the questioners want you to answer them was a 
well known and oft-discussed phenomenon in the 
Psych and Sociology courses I took in college.  
We even did one experiment in which half the class 
was given a test to administer to subjects and told 
that they were trying to prove Theorem A, and the
other half of the class was given the same test
to administer (without knowing it was the same),
and told that they were trying to prove Theorem
B (the opposite).  Natch, the first group got  
results proving Theorem A and the second group got 
results proving the exact opposite, using the 
exact same test. I never forgot that experiment, 
and remain skeptical of all "polled" research data
to this day.












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[FairfieldLife] Re: New Jyotish

[hugheshugo]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> authfriend wrote:
> 
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>I'm beginning to wonder if the planets are nothing but markers 
> >>anyway for some yet undiscovered circadian rhythms.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >My guess: Any sufficiently complex system of
> >correspondences, such as astrology (any flavor), works
> >as a tool for focusing the intuition--i.e., collecting
> >and integrating all one's little intuitional inputs
> >into a coherent whole so that a prediction can be
> >generated from it.  The system's correspondences
> >themselves don't "mean" anything at all, they're just a
> >framework to hang the intuition on and organize what
> >the intuition knows.
> >
> >Tea leaves, in other words, could work just as well
> >as astrology for anyone with a highly developed
> >intuition.
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> Intuition is very definitely a part of jyotish but some systems 
will 
> work very well in a mechanical sense too.  Something is going on 
and it 
> doesn't have so much to do with intuition other than some folks 
can 
> discern it with intuition.  Hart DeFouw, a very popular Jyotish 
teacher 
> says Jyotish is just a form of "divination" like numerology, 
palmistry, etc.
>

Maharishi has always claimed that Jyotish is a science and that 
therefore a computer would be the best practitioner.

To my eyes the biggest pointer to it being a huge load of 
Anthropomorphism is the fact that all of the planets beyond the 
orbit of saturn are missing from the jyotish calculations. Do they 
not have an effect? or is it because they are not visible to the 
naked eye and consequently the ancients couldn't have known about 
them?

An if it doesn't mean anything at all why have yagyas to "correct" 
approaching problems?










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes

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--- In 
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> TorquiseB writes snipped final para
> 
> I'm not going to pursue this whole subject here any
> more, though. There is just too much resistance on 
> this forum to presenting the taking-an-active-role-
> in-your-own-realization approach. It's just a waste
> of time to talk about it, because the decades of 
> indoctrination have been too effective. The waiters
> have been waiting so long that they can't even 
> imagine that there is something they could do 
> other than waiting. And they get angry when someone
> *does* suggest such a thing. So I'm going to leave
> them to their waiting, and hope that approach works 
> out for them in the future a little better than it's
> worked out for them so far.
> 
> Tom T:
> The reason I suggested Judy and others just give it up is that they
> have been using every ounce of will and intention as seekers for
> thirty some years and have yet to find that for which they seek. If
> one can really give up the addiction to seeking the only place 
> left to
> fall into is the Self. You have looked outside for it for ever too
> long. It is inside just stop seeking, give up caring about what has
> been described. Fall back onto who you are. You allready know this
> simple thing you are so familiar with yet you overlook it for some
> grandiose thing. It is just that simple. As one man so succintly
> put
> it one night when it finally dawned on him that this simple state 
> we
> are is IT. He said I want my money back for all the courses and CCP
> program, I have know this for 25 years. It can't be this simple. 
> Well,
> three weeks later he finally admitted that this simple thing really
> was it and every concept of what it had to look like and be was 
> gone
> and he couldn't hang onto any of those old concepts. Throw in the
> towel and see what can happen. Being a not seeker may be a new and
> wondeful experience full of freedom. What have you got to lose. You
> haven't gotten it with all that seeking. Tom

Tom, I understand why you feel this way. (IMO, of course.)
It's because this approach worked for you. So naturally,
you think it'll work for everyone. I have no such illusions.
"Different strokes for different folks" is not just about
preferences...it's about predilection, a way of saying that 
the approach to enlightenment that allows some people to 
realize it Just Wouldn't Work for other people.

In this case, I would think that the person you are recom-
mending this approach to really would benefit more from
the *opposite* approach -- a heavy regimen of focus and
focused intent. But that's a guess on my part, and it's 
irrelevant in any case because she's firmly locked into 
Waiting Mode, probably for the rest of the incarnation.
There is not an ice cube's chance in Hell that she's
ever going to try anything new, ever again in this life
so any suggestions to the contrary are just wasted breath.

My only point to *you* is that there are many paradigms
for discovering what has always already been present. One
is very much in the TM mold...just practicing one's sadhana
and waiting to see if anything happens. This discussion group
should offer proof that this approach does work, at least 
for a few. Very few.

This group also provides some evidence that exposure to the
Neo-Advaitan "stop all this seeking and just realize that
it's already present" approach *also* works. For some people.

I'm suggesting only that there are *other* paradigms and
approaches out there that might work for others, and among
them is the use of intent and effort and strong focus. You 
don't hear about that approach much on this group because 
(IMO) people have been brainwashed over the decades into 
believing that effort of any kind is somehow "bad" -- some-
thing associated with ego. But this approach *does* work 
for some people. Go figure.

Enlightenment is an "equal opportunity employer."  It doesn't
really CARE how you found your way to realizing that you
are already an employee.  Just punch your time card and
get back to work.  :-)












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