[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Somehow he (like many pro-Vietnam people did) has misconstrued our discussion as being anti-vet. snip The whole myth of 'honor the fallen dead' from all these wars is a way to NOT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR FIGHTING THE WARS. The problem's always with the 'leaders,' who start them. Well, duh...the problem's with the people who agree to fight them. In other words, the discussion (at least, Barry's side of it) was indeed anti-vet, and new_morning hasn't misconstrued a thing. I should have said The problem's with the people who agree to fight them and pay for them. If you pay taxes in the United States, YOU are responsible for the war in Iraq. No, sorry, you meant the vets to start with, and the above is a reactive backpedal: The vast majority of them fought and died because they were told to and had so little imagination that it never occurred to them that they could say no, to conscription and to the whole stupid business of war. Backpedal regardless, I *agree* with you that all of us who don't dedicate our lives and material resources to opposing war share in the responsibility for war. But (a) that was not what you said to start with; and (b) running away to France does not absolve you of that responsibility. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If you praise the soldiers who said YES to an insane war, and absolve them of any respon- sibility for that war because they were just being noble and doing what they were told by their bad leaders, then the people who sat by quietly and paid their taxes and *enabled* the war started by those bad leaders also share no responisibility for it. Freudian slip? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, sorry, you meant the vets to start with, and the above is a reactive backpedal: The vast majority of them fought and died because they were told to and had so little imagination that it never occurred to them that they could say no, to conscription and to the whole stupid business of war. Backpedal regardless, I *agree* with you that all of us who don't dedicate our lives and material resources to opposing war share in the responsibility for war. But (a) that was not what you said to start with; and (b) running away to France does not absolve you of that responsibility. 1-800-FUCK-OFF is a free call for you, too. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: No, sorry, you meant the vets to start with, and the above is a reactive backpedal: The vast majority of them fought and died because they were told to and had so little imagination that it never occurred to them that they could say no, to conscription and to the whole stupid business of war. Backpedal regardless, I *agree* with you that all of us who don't dedicate our lives and material resources to opposing war share in the responsibility for war. But (a) that was not what you said to start with; and (b) running away to France does not absolve you of that responsibility. 1-800-FUCK-OFF is a free call for you, too. :-) I sruck a nerve, apparently. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Human ancestors may have mated with chimps
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >From NewScientist, May, 2006, p. 5 A Messy Divorce, Our distant ancestors' behaviour can teach us a thing or two. People who have trought accepting that we are descended from apes, and even some who are fine with the concept, will not be happy with this news about human origins. Not only were our ancestors related to chimpanzees, they carried on mating with them long after our family tree branches from theirs. It's not all as bad as it sounds. First, this startling idea is still only a hypothesis -- albeit the one that best explains the unexpectedly limited differences between our own genome and those of our nearest ape cousins, the chimpanzee and gorilla. To know for certain will take much more genomic detective work. Even if true, though, is is no sordid tale of scandal and perversion. After all, at the time any hybridization would have happened, oru ancestors had barely begun to walk upright and probably looked very much like the protochimps they interbred with. Instead, this new glimpse of our history serves as a lesson in how fuzzy the boundaries of a species can be, and in how evolution bumbles along without any grand plan. The article goes on to say that the apparent separation between species is often messier than simply being unable to interbreed; and also that entire family trees are messy. Regarding the divergence of amps and humans, the article says, At times it would have been hard to decide if there was one species or two: evolution just selected what worked. --- End forwarded message --- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Farokh is a jerk, as far as I can tell. As I said before, he could have gotten sponsorship for the cert course, and grants from all over for the course fees, but he wanted to keep his own little fiefdom independent of the TMO. And no, the crowns wouldn't turn anyone off because the Rajas wouldn't be interacting with the inmates or the judges. Farokh spent over a decade developing the sentencing program, including extensive searches for grants and donations. You think it's easy to gets grants to pay for $2,500 TM fees? That's absurd. Not at all absurd. People like David Lynch exist and have donated quite a bit of money to teach TM to kids this past year. Who besides David Lynch has provided grant money to teach TM at $2,500 per person this past year? Dunno. David Lynch is doing fund-raising himself, you know. His foundation is meant to be a funnel for funds. And prior to this program, Farokh initiated thousands in horrifying african prisons. I have the book on the subject. There's no fiefdom or glory in his projects, either within or outside the tmo. He does it out of personal conviction and he knows from experience what it takes to make them work. I have the book on the subject. I also read his response to a request for the research on TM. Don't know what this means. Someone from MUM sent him a letter requesting a copy of the research on the Enlightened Sentencing project. Someone posted his response on FFL. Respectfully declined doesn't cover the tone of his response. Meanwhile the raja-run recert program has succeeded in opening 1 Enlightenment Mall Store which is a total failure. And that's all you think they have done? That was the sole point of the recertification course which you said Farokh should have raised money to take. The sole point of the recert course was to establish a core group of TM teachers loyal to the organization. Judy thinks it was to break the final bounds for everyone else with the TMO, but I think that is the unfortunate side-effect that MMY is willing to put up with. Lawson wrote: The sole point of the recert course was to establish a core group of TM teachers loyal to the organization. This statement has so much spin on it, I don't know where to start. The recert course was an arbitrary, money making, agreement breaking, bad faith move, that has more to do with disloyalty than loyalty. The final F-you to around 30,000 teachers of TM. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: No, sorry, you meant the vets to start with, and the above is a reactive backpedal: The vast majority of them fought and died because they were told to and had so little imagination that it never occurred to them that they could say no, to conscription and to the whole stupid business of war. Backpedal regardless, I *agree* with you that all of us who don't dedicate our lives and material resources to opposing war share in the responsibility for war. But (a) that was not what you said to start with; and (b) running away to France does not absolve you of that responsibility. 1-800-FUCK-OFF is a free call for you, too. :-) I sruck a nerve, apparently. I know that Judy won't understand this, because she's too far gone, but the above comment is *exactly* why she and new_morning_blank_slate are consigned to my Pissant Bin. It's not that they have nothing to say. They don't, but that's beside the point. :-) It's that they are compelled to react to positions they don't agree with by TRYING TO MAKE THE OTHER PERSON FEEL BAD. *That* is what they are trying to achieve in their posts. I suspect that anyone here with any psychic sensibilities has felt this. In this thread, when new_morning first jumped on Bhairitu for what he posted, his *first reaction* was to imply that there was something *wrong* with him for stating that opinion. He tried to portray Bhairitu as somehow bad and not caring about vets just because he made the points that he'd made. His *first reaction* was to try to make the person who disagreed with him the bad guy and (IMO) to try to make him feel bad about himself. It didn't work. Bhairitu laughed at him. Above, Judy expresses (not for the first time) her fantasy and her main reason for posting on the Internet. She has said many times that she *delights* in trying to make her opponents in a debate feel bad. That's *why* she debates them. Her *first reaction* in this thread was the same as new_morning's; she was interested only in finding someone she could put down, and hopefully make feel bad. It didn't work. It rarely does. It's sad, but as I and a number of others have said in the past, it's really Not Our Problem. Just because these two people get their jollies by trying to suck people into extended arguments with them so that they can put them down doesn't mean that we have to fall for it. In other words, it's a lot like the codependency issue with war that I've been talking about. The only way one can have a war is that a bunch of codependent people agree to fight it or pay for it. The only way one can have an argument on a forum like this is to agree to argue with those who seem to *need* arguments to define who they are. Just say NO. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to become a god in the Mormon universe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hyperbolicgeometry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- ---Now I'm wondering if the Scientology Dark Lord Xenu was one of these Mormon gods in another universe. --- http://www.utlm.org/faqs/faqgeneral.htm Interesting set of questions and answers by Evangelical Christian (and great-great-granddaughter of LDS leader Brigham Young); Sandra Tanner. She now witnesses to Salt Lake City Mormons. I don't know about anyone else, but her witnessing would made me think POSITIVELY about Mormonism, not turn me off to it. Some of the stuff below sounds prettey cool. Here's two of her questions and answers: 16. Does Mormonism teach that God was once a man on another world and progressed to become God of this world? Yes, Joseph Smith declared: God Himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp.345- 346). Another one of their leaders coined the phrase: As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become (The Gospel Through the Ages, Hunter, p.105-106). Brigham Young preached: It appears ridiculous to the world, under their darkened and erroneous traditions, that God has once been a finite being (Deseret News, Nov. 16, 1859, p. 290). 17. Does Mormonism teach that good Mormons can become Gods of their own worlds? Yes, one of their leaders wrote: since mortal beings are the spirit children of Heavenly Parents, as pointed out in the last chapter, the ultimate possibility is for some of them to become exalted to Godhood. (The Gospel Through the Ages, Hunter, p.104) Brigham Young declared: Intelligent beings are organized to become Gods, even the Sons of God, to dwell in the presence of the Gods (Discourses of Brigham Young, p.245). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Somehow he (like many pro-Vietnam people did) has misconstrued our discussion as being anti-vet. I happen to know quite a few vets who would agree with my original statement. I don't know any who wouldn't agree with it, at least not any I've known who fought from Vietnam onwards. Unfortunately most figured it out too late. So if they're fighting for our freedom then why don't they throw a military coup and depose King George and his minions who are the biggest threat to our freedom in the history of this country. That's my point, too. The whole myth of 'honor the fallen dead' from all these wars is a way to NOT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR FIGHTING THE WARS. The problem's always with the 'leaders,' who start them. Well, duh...the problem's with the people who agree to fight them. There will always be leaders who want war. Until the people start saying NO to them, there will be wars. That doesn't mean that many of them didn't say YES for noble reasons, but in my opinion to continue this Memorial Day fiasco, in which people publicly praise people for saying YES to war, and portray them as noble and heroic for having done so, is to prolong and glorify the whole idea of war, and make sure it sticks around in the future. What the world needs is more Memorial Day services that honor those who said NO when their leaders told them to go to war. People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of the people. -- from V for Vendetta Interesting that you would quote the above from V for Vendetta because it could pretty much be the motto of the NRA. The only way government CAN be afraid of its people is if the people are armed...and, not surprisingly, that is the main reason for the 2nd amendment: to protect themselves against a tyrannical central government. On a related note: This morning on TV I saw about 1/2 of the movie Time after Time, a 1979 movie starring Malcolm McDowell as H.G. Wells who travels in his time machine to 1970s San Francisco to persue Jack the Ripper who also used the machine. At one point Wells hooks up with Jack and Jack tells him that modern day America is custom-made for him, what with all its violence and sexual deviancy. But one of the comments he makes -- with Wells concurring -- was totally off the mark. In order to emphasize the violence of America, he says to Wells: it's amazing...here in America anyone can go into a gun store and buy a gun! The reason this is off the mark is that in London during the Victorian era virtually everyone owned a handgun...it was a common as owning a TV is today. And practically everyone carried it with them, just as in the Wild West. What's even more amazing is that despite an almost universal ownership of guns, the murder rate by guns in London at that time was almost next to nothing...maybe one or two a year. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Somehow he (like many pro-Vietnam people did) has misconstrued our discussion as being anti-vet. snip The whole myth of 'honor the fallen dead' from all these wars is a way to NOT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR FIGHTING THE WARS. The problem's always with the 'leaders,' who start them. Well, duh...the problem's with the people who agree to fight them. In other words, the discussion (at least, Barry's side of it) was indeed anti-vet, and new_morning hasn't misconstrued a thing. I should have said The problem's with the people who agree to fight them and pay for them. If you pay taxes in the United States, YOU are responsible for the war in Iraq. No, sorry, you meant the vets to start with, and the above is a reactive backpedal: The vast majority of them fought and died because they were told to and had so little imagination that it never occurred to them that they could say no, to conscription and to the whole stupid business of war. Backpedal regardless, I *agree* with you that all of us who don't dedicate our lives and material resources to opposing war share in the responsibility for war. But (a) that was not what you said to start with; and (b) running away to France does not absolve you of that responsibility. Where does he pay his taxes? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Somehow he (like many pro-Vietnam people did) has misconstrued our discussion as being anti-vet. I happen to know quite a few vets who would agree with my original statement. I don't know any who wouldn't agree with it, at least not any I've known who fought from Vietnam onwards. You haven't met many gulf war II vets. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [a remarkable number of lines saying no snipt] In other words, it's a lot like the codependency issue with war that I've been talking about. The only way one can have a war is that a bunch of codependent people agree to fight it or pay for it. The only way one can have an argument on a forum like this is to agree to argue with those who seem to *need* arguments to define who they are. Just say NO. Succinct as always... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Farokh is a jerk, as far as I can tell. As I said before, he could have gotten sponsorship for the cert course, and grants from all over for the course fees, but he wanted to keep his own little fiefdom independent of the TMO. And no, the crowns wouldn't turn anyone off because the Rajas wouldn't be interacting with the inmates or the judges. Farokh spent over a decade developing the sentencing program, including extensive searches for grants and donations. You think it's easy to gets grants to pay for $2,500 TM fees? That's absurd. Not at all absurd. People like David Lynch exist and have donated quite a bit of money to teach TM to kids this past year. Who besides David Lynch has provided grant money to teach TM at $2,500 per person this past year? Dunno. David Lynch is doing fund-raising himself, you know. His foundation is meant to be a funnel for funds. And prior to this program, Farokh initiated thousands in horrifying african prisons. I have the book on the subject. There's no fiefdom or glory in his projects, either within or outside the tmo. He does it out of personal conviction and he knows from experience what it takes to make them work. I have the book on the subject. I also read his response to a request for the research on TM. Don't know what this means. Someone from MUM sent him a letter requesting a copy of the research on the Enlightened Sentencing project. Someone posted his response on FFL. Respectfully declined doesn't cover the tone of his response. Meanwhile the raja-run recert program has succeeded in opening 1 Enlightenment Mall Store which is a total failure. And that's all you think they have done? That was the sole point of the recertification course which you said Farokh should have raised money to take. The sole point of the recert course was to establish a core group of TM teachers loyal to the organization. Judy thinks it was to break the final bounds for everyone else with the TMO, but I think that is the unfortunate side-effect that MMY is willing to put up with. Lawson wrote: The sole point of the recert course was to establish a core group of TM teachers loyal to the organization. This statement has so much spin on it, I don't know where to start. The recert course was an arbitrary, money making, agreement breaking, bad faith move, that has more to do with disloyalty than loyalty. The final F-you to around 30,000 teachers of TM. There's some level of money-making going on, but how many people really believe that the initial contribution of the recerts is MORE than what would be collected by allowing the earlier, cheaper price? The Rajahs thing is blatant money-making. The recerts thing is only money-making in the long run if MMY is correct that he can entice elites to shell out thousands for the initial course, and millions in the form of grants. In the short run, the recert course makes SOME money, but not much. In the near-term, it loses a great deal of money. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The reason this is off the mark is that in London during the Victorian era virtually everyone owned a handgun...it was a common as owning a TV is today. And practically everyone carried it with them, just as in the Wild West. What's even more amazing is that despite an almost universal ownership of guns, the murder rate by guns in London at that time was almost next to nothing...maybe one or two a year. Except by Jack the Ripper, of course... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's the rumpus?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Saw the Da Vinci Code last night and actually enjoyed it. Wasn't going to see it so soon (I was waiting for the crowds to go down buy X-Men took care of that). What's the rumpus? I don't know why there were so many negative reports about the movie, which I try to avoid anyway, it was really very good. I thought that the main problem with the film was that it did too good a job of giving all the characters the same depth and three-dimensionality they had in the book. That is, none. :-) At least they didn't try to replicate the full effect of Dan Brown's writing style. That would have required the use of fingernails on a black- board in the sountrack music. Ironically, fatally flawed as it was, I found Angels and Demons to be far superior in every respect. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [...] The reason this is off the mark is that in London during the Victorian era virtually everyone owned a handgun...it was a common as owning a TV is today. And practically everyone carried it with them, just as in the Wild West. What's even more amazing is that despite an almost universal ownership of guns, the murder rate by guns in London at that time was almost next to nothing...maybe one or two a year. Except by Jack the Ripper, of course... Not to mention that Shemp's stats are bullshit. In Victorian London, 70% of the population could barely afford clothes and food, much less a gun. As usual, he's talking about the rich as if they were the only ones who 'counted.' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's the rumpus?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Saw the Da Vinci Code last night and actually enjoyed it. Wasn't going to see it so soon (I was waiting for the crowds to go down buy X-Men took care of that). What's the rumpus? I don't know why there were so many negative reports about the movie, which I try to avoid anyway, it was really very good. I thought that the main problem with the film was that it did too good a job of giving all the characters the same depth and three-dimensionality they had in the book. That is, none. :-) At least they didn't try to replicate the full effect of Dan Brown's writing style. That would have required the use of fingernails on a black- board in the sountrack music. Ironically, fatally flawed as it was, I found Angels and Demons to be far superior in every respect. It still had the 'fingernail' thang and lifeless characters going for it, and a bunch of 'facts' about CERN and the Vatican Library that weren't. One of the reasons it may have seemed tighter was that it was on a shorter timeline; most of the action takes place in 24 hours, with a countdown clock running. That kind of compressed time scale covers a great deal of bad writing. :-) AD was even worse, in my opinion, at Brown telegraphing his punches. If he mentions a fact that seems out of place (and is), you can pretty much count on him using it later as a mechanism for his hero to escape certain death. That's my main problem with him -- he not only writes down to the level of the audience, he writes *below* their level, in my opinion, intentionally. My theory is that he *wants* everyone to see the next plot twist coming fifty pages before you get to it, because that makes them feel smart. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] SOLAR HEALING
The Solar Healing Center is focused on helping humanity to develop a better understanding of how the sun can be used to heal the mind, body and spirit as demonstrated by Hira Ratan Manek, who, as a result of sungazing, has claimed better physical, mental, emotional and spiritual health.Hira Ratan Manek (HRM), among others, have proven that a person can live just on solar energy for very long periods without eating any food. This has come to be known as the HRM phenomenon. The method is used for curing all kinds of psychosomatic, mental and physical illnesses as well as increasing memory power and mental strength by using sunlight. One can get rid of any kind of psychological problems, and develop confidence to face any problem in life and can overcome any kind of fear including that of death within 3 months after starting to practice this method. As a result, one will be free from mental disturbances and fear, which will result in a perfect balance of mind. If one continues to apply the proper sungazing practice for 6 months, they will be free from physical illnesses. Furthermore, after 9 months, one can eventually win a victory over hunger, which disappears by itself thereafter.This is a straight-forward yet effective method based on solar energy, which enables one to harmonize and recharge the body with life energy and also invoke the unlimited powers of the mind very easily. Additionally, it allows one to easily liberate from threefold sufferings of humanity such as mental illnesses, physical illnesses and spiritual ignorance. For more info visit: http://www.solarhealing.com/ Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: SOLAR HEALING
MMY did mention some Himalayan saints able to live just on solar energy. But if all that is required is to stare at the sunrise or sunset standing with bare feet on the ground you'd think stone age man would have discovered this technology long ago. Why doesn't Hira Ratan Manek mobilise the starving millions to stare at the sun, if that's such a viable solution .. Thet're probably doing that anyway..And why the bare feet on the earth? Couldn't do that in any freezing weather.. And in the UK - forget it, we have no sun to speak of.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rama krishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Solar Healing Center is focused on helping humanity to develop a better understanding of how the sun can be used to heal the mind, body and spirit as demonstrated by Hira Ratan Manek, who, as a result of sungazing, has claimed better physical, mental, emotional and spiritual health. Hira Ratan Manek (HRM), among others, have proven that a person can live just on solar energy for very long periods without eating any food. This has come to be known as the HRM phenomenon. The method is used for curing all kinds of psychosomatic, mental and physical illnesses as well as increasing memory power and mental strength by using sunlight. One can get rid of any kind of psychological problems, and develop confidence to face any problem in life and can overcome any kind of fear including that of death within 3 months after starting to practice this method. As a result, one will be free from mental disturbances and fear, which will result in a perfect balance of mind. If one continues to apply the proper sungazing practice for 6 months, they will be free from physical illnesses. Furthermore, after 9 months, one can eventually win a victory over hunger, which disappears by itself thereafter. This is a straight-forward yet effective method based on solar energy, which enables one to harmonize and recharge the body with life energy and also invoke the unlimited powers of the mind very easily. Additionally, it allows one to easily liberate from threefold sufferings of humanity such as mental illnesses, physical illnesses and spiritual ignorance. For more info visit: http://www.solarhealing.com/ - Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/30/06 1:47:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 'That was a song from the sixties, if anyone's old enough to remember... War is really very disfunctional behavior; Sure it's been part of this earth reality for so long, we just take it for granted, that it is a part of life, and have even made it into a sort of institution(an institution of late, that is turning humans into ground beef, and billions down the drain. Perhaps a generation will come along, hopefully soon, that fully rejects war as an option; Killing a fellow human being, will no longer seem like a viable option. Sure we are a culture, that is addicted to violence. And many of the troops coming back from this war, like the other's will be totally messed up: They will have gotten addicted to the adrenaline and power of Killing, and some will need more and more... This is what it is like to lose your soul... You lose part of your soul, when you kill... Who are you really serving, when you become a murderer...??? Jesus called the 'evil-one', a murderer since the beginning of time. It is like a demonic possession, this war thing. It makes people crazy and creates chaos. It destroys everything good in life. It serves only one purpose as far as I'm concerned: Like every other addiction, or dysfunction, It serves as a lesson, on what not to do. 'War- What is it good for? Absolutely Nothing! Wow , you have a point. Ever taken this up with Osama Ben Ladin or any other people that go around blowing themselves up? I wonder what their reaction would be to your thoughts.You can't just talk to one side, you have to convince both sides of a conflict of your ideas. You might try posting this on some terrorist web site and see if you can't get a response. Maybe you can start a meaningful dialogue and win the Nobel peace prize. Osama is obviously an intelligent and well connected person, in his realm. He has chosen violence as his path, and will eventually have to reap the karma of the violence which he has perpretrated. He started a chain of events, which with the help of G.Bush, has created hell on earth for many innocent people. Nobel prizes are nice, I guess; But what will really change the equation is raising the consiousness of the people, all people, Moslems, Christians, Jews, and the rest... There is no other way- we have to evolve above our animal instincts.. All of the enlightened people have said the same thing. The difference now, is that our technology has made it a necessity, and not a luxury, to raise the consiousness of everyone. We can no longer afford to be ignorant of our inter-connectedness, and dependence on each other, as all life on earth is threatened. Enlightened leadership is the only way out. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SOLAR HEALING
On May 31, 2006, at 7:10 AM, claudiouk wrote: MMY did mention some Himalayan saints able to live just on solar energy. It's actually an obscure path called Surya Vigyan. It's said to be largely lost but very, very old. Pieces of it have found their way into other paths. Adepts of Surya Vigyan can materialize physical objects using the sun. They understand at an experiential level how energy becomes matter. But if all that is required is to stare at the sunrise or sunset standing with bare feet on the ground you'd think stone age man would have discovered this technology long ago. Why doesn't Hira Ratan Manek mobilise the starving millions to stare at the sun, if that's such a viable solution .. Thet're probably doing that anyway..And why the bare feet on the earth? Couldn't do that in any freezing weather.. And in the UK - forget it, we have no sun to speak of.. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Somehow he (like many pro-Vietnam people did) has misconstrued our discussion as being anti-vet. snip The whole myth of 'honor the fallen dead' from all these wars is a way to NOT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR FIGHTING THE WARS. The problem's always with the 'leaders,' who start them. Well, duh...the problem's with the people who agree to fight them. In other words, the discussion (at least, Barry's side of it) was indeed anti-vet, and new_morning hasn't misconstrued a thing. I should have said The problem's with the people who agree to fight them and pay for them. If you pay taxes in the United States, YOU are responsible for the war in Iraq. No, sorry, you meant the vets to start with, and the above is a reactive backpedal: The vast majority of them fought and died because they were told to and had so little imagination that it never occurred to them that they could say no, to conscription and to the whole stupid business of war. Backpedal regardless, I *agree* with you that all of us who don't dedicate our lives and material resources to opposing war share in the responsibility for war. But (a) that was not what you said to start with; and (b) running away to France does not absolve you of that responsibility. Where does he pay his taxes? Of what country is he a citizen? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: No, sorry, you meant the vets to start with, and the above is a reactive backpedal: The vast majority of them fought and died because they were told to and had so little imagination that it never occurred to them that they could say no, to conscription and to the whole stupid business of war. Backpedal regardless, I *agree* with you that all of us who don't dedicate our lives and material resources to opposing war share in the responsibility for war. But (a) that was not what you said to start with; and (b) running away to France does not absolve you of that responsibility. 1-800-FUCK-OFF is a free call for you, too. :-) I sruck a nerve, apparently. I know that Judy won't understand this, because she's too far gone, but the above comment is *exactly* why she and new_morning_blank_slate are consigned to my Pissant Bin. It's not that they have nothing to say. They don't, but that's beside the point. :-) It's that they are compelled to react to positions they don't agree with by TRYING TO MAKE THE OTHER PERSON FEEL BAD. (And Barry is *not* trying to make me feel bad here, right?) I *really* struck a nerve. *That* is what they are trying to achieve in their posts. I suspect that anyone here with any psychic sensibilities has felt this. Actually, I suspect that anyone here who can read realizes Barry's completely off the rails on this one, given that what I said was: Backpedal regardless, I *AGREE* WITH YOU that all of us who don't dedicate our lives and material resources to opposing war share in the responsibility for war. Emphasis added. Only Barry could read I agree with you and interpret it as I don't agree with you. In this thread, when new_morning first jumped on Bhairitu for what he posted, his *first reaction* was to imply that there was something *wrong* with him for stating that opinion. horselaugh Of course, Barry *never* implies there's something wrong with a person who states an opinion he disagrees with. I mean, he certainly doesn't do it in this post, does he? snip Above, Judy expresses (not for the first time) her fantasy and her main reason for posting on the Internet. She has said many times that she *delights* in trying to make her opponents in a debate feel bad. In fact, I've *never* said that, and of course it isn't true. It's Barry's fantasy, not mine. That's *why* she debates them. Her *first reaction* in this thread was the same as new_morning's; she was interested only in finding someone she could put down, and hopefully make feel bad. In fact, my first reaction in this thread was to post a quote from St. Catherine of Siena that appears on the Peace Monument Barry has been touting: In mercy you have seen fit today to show me, poor as I am, how we can in no way pass judgment on other people's intentions. Indeed, by sending people in an endless variety of paths, you give an example for myself, and for this I thank you. My second (related) reaction was to suggest that the hostility and lack of compassion expressed by some would-be peaceniks toward those involved in war is a manifestation of the same type of anger that generates war in the first place. If those two reactions make Barry feel bad, perhaps that's a sign that he should look into his soul and discover *why* his professed devotion to peace is so saturated with judgmental anger. It's entirely possible to hate war without also demonizing the warriors and those who support them. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
Lawson wrote: The sole point of the recert course was to establish a core group of TM teachers loyal to the organization. JohnY answered: This statement has so much spin on it, I don't know where to start. The recert course was an arbitrary, money making, agreement breaking, bad faith move, that has more to do with disloyalty than loyalty. The final F-you to around 30,000 teachers of TM. Lawson answered: There's some level of money-making going on, but how many people really believe that the initial contribution of the recerts is MORE than what would be collected by allowing the earlier, cheaper price? The Rajahs thing is blatant money-making. The recerts thing is only money-making in the long run if MMY is correct that he can entice elites to shell out thousands for the initial course, and millions in the form of grants. In the short run, the recert course makes SOME money, but not much. In the near-term, it loses a great deal of money. --- I understand what the implied strategic thinking is. I'm talking about the ethical stance. The strategy could just as easily be: It's inevitalble that there will be trouble with the law (land and real estate stuff) or all those pesky teachers. Lets make the group much smaller. At the same time appeal to their guilt one last time. Million dollar cources, and raja's and we won't really teach TM anymore. Stores and farms, yes, lawsuits, yes, but teaching, no. It'll look cool and so crazy that the law and most of the meditators won't bother with us anymore. We can move all the money into India and really make a killing on all that land later JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Human ancestors may have mated with chimps
Great post! I love this stuff. I think there is also evidence of Homo Sapien mating with Neanderthal back in the day. Early man was such a stud! I hear that after the second glass of Chardonnay, chimp chicks are a done deal! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote: From NewScientist, May, 2006, p. 5 A Messy Divorce, Our distant ancestors' behaviour can teach us a thing or two. People who have trought accepting that we are descended from apes, and even some who are fine with the concept, will not be happy with this news about human origins. Not only were our ancestors related to chimpanzees, they carried on mating with them long after our family tree branches from theirs. It's not all as bad as it sounds. First, this startling idea is still only a hypothesis -- albeit the one that best explains the unexpectedly limited differences between our own genome and those of our nearest ape cousins, the chimpanzee and gorilla. To know for certain will take much more genomic detective work. Even if true, though, is is no sordid tale of scandal and perversion. After all, at the time any hybridization would have happened, oru ancestors had barely begun to walk upright and probably looked very much like the protochimps they interbred with. Instead, this new glimpse of our history serves as a lesson in how fuzzy the boundaries of a species can be, and in how evolution bumbles along without any grand plan. The article goes on to say that the apparent separation between species is often messier than simply being unable to interbreed; and also that entire family trees are messy. Regarding the divergence of amps and humans, the article says, At times it would have been hard to decide if there was one species or two: evolution just selected what worked. --- End forwarded message --- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [...] The reason this is off the mark is that in London during the Victorian era virtually everyone owned a handgun...it was a common as owning a TV is today. And practically everyone carried it with them, just as in the Wild West. What's even more amazing is that despite an almost universal ownership of guns, the murder rate by guns in London at that time was almost next to nothing...maybe one or two a year. Except by Jack the Ripper, of course... I don't think he killed by shooting but by gutting. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
In a message dated 5/31/06 8:19:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Enlightened leadership is the only way out. But if the leadership is only a reflection of the collective consciousness, then you've got a real problem. In order to have enlightened leadership, you're going to have to have an enlightened society first. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Human ancestors may have mated with chimps
In a message dated 5/31/06 9:14:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Great post! I love this stuff. I think there is also evidence ofHomo Sapien mating with Neanderthal back in the day. Early man wassuch a stud! The evidence is strongest in France. Look at those french Schnozolas. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Human ancestors may have mated with chimps
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote: From NewScientist, May, 2006, p. 5 A Messy Divorce, Our distant ancestors' behaviour can teach us a thing or two. snip this new glimpse of our history serves as a lesson in how fuzzy the boundaries of a species can be, and in how evolution bumbles along without any grand plan. The article goes on to say that the apparent separation between species is often messier than simply being unable to interbreed; and also that entire family trees are messy. Regarding the divergence of amps and humans, the article says, At times it would have been hard to decide if there was one species or two: evolution just selected what worked. It's easy to forget that the evolutionary tree we see so neatly mapped out in taxonomic charts is a pattern we have imposed on nature, not an organizational structure that is somehow inherent in nature. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/31/06 8:19:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Enlightened leadership is the only way out. But if the leadership is only a reflection of the collective consciousness, then you've got a real problem. In order to have enlightened leadership, you're going to have to have an enlightened society first. Huh, that's a good point! I've never heard that raised before. It seems so obvious now that you mention it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [...] The reason this is off the mark is that in London during the Victorian era virtually everyone owned a handgun...it was a common as owning a TV is today. And practically everyone carried it with them, just as in the Wild West. What's even more amazing is that despite an almost universal ownership of guns, the murder rate by guns in London at that time was almost next to nothing...maybe one or two a year. Except by Jack the Ripper, of course... Not to mention that Shemp's stats are bullshit. In Victorian London, 70% of the population could barely afford clothes and food, much less a gun. As usual, he's talking about the rich as if they were the only ones who 'counted.' Although I can't find statistics that back up or refute my almost universal ownership of guns statement, I remember reading that. But I'll stand corrected until I am able to come up with something. However, I did find the following: >From Thomas Sowell at http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=2205 : England's Bill of Rights in 1688 was quite unambiguous that the right of a private individual to be armed was an individual right, independently of any collective right of militias. Guns were as freely available to Englishmen as to Americans, on into the early 20th century. Nor was gun control in England a response to any firearms murder crisis. Over a period of three years near the end of the 19th century, there were only 59 fatalities from handguns in a population of nearly 30 million people, according to Professor Malcolm. Of these, 19 were accidents, 35 were suicides and only three were homicides -- an average of one a year. From: http://www.wmsa.net/Books/malcomb-Guns_Violence.htm In ''Guns and Violence,'' her second work on gun rights, Malcolm challenges the conventional view that England, with the most restrictive gun laws of any democracy, is a peaceful oasis compared with America, where it is legal to carry a concealed weapon in 33 states. In fact, she contends, the opposite is true. When guns were freely available in England in the 19th century, the country had an astonishingly low rate of violent crime. It was only since the 1950s, when England began an inexorable march toward an outright ban on guns, that violent crime rose. Today, she said, guns are outlawed in England. In contrast, America's rates of violent crime have been falling since 1991, reaching a 30-year low in 1999. The chances of being mugged in London are six times greater than in New York. Moreover, she said, England's rates of burglary and robbery are much higher than those of America, and 53 percent of burglaries in England occur while people are at home, compared with 13 percent in the United States, where burglars admit to fearing armed homeowners. But it was her research on the English Bill of Rights of 1689 that drew her into the gun-control debate. That document, Malcolm said, noted Parliament's recognition of the right of all English Protestants - about 90 percent of the nation - to keep arms to defend themselves. The Second Amendment is a direct descendant of this document, she said, although some scholars disagree. Although many Britons took advantage of this right, she said, violent crime remained low for hundreds of years. A government study for the years 1890 through 1892 found only three handgun homicides, an average of one a year, in a nation of 30 million people. In 1904, there were only four armed robberies in London, then the world's largest city. And from a review of Malcolm's book from http://tinyurl.com/mgpjs : Historically, of course, Britain has had low crime rates. One aspect of the story that Malcolm traces is the evolution of gun ownership (stimulated by invention and ever cheaper gun prices and restricted, over the course of the 20th century, by ever harsher government regulation)and the relationship of gun ownership to crime. The skinny is this: Britain had low crime rates as long as it had high levels of private gun ownership. As the state has made private ownership illegal, crime has skyrocketed. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Somehow he (like many pro-Vietnam people did) has misconstrued our discussion as being anti-vet. snip The whole myth of 'honor the fallen dead' from all these wars is a way to NOT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR FIGHTING THE WARS. The problem's always with the 'leaders,' who start them. Well, duh...the problem's with the people who agree to fight them. In other words, the discussion (at least, Barry's side of it) was indeed anti-vet, and new_morning hasn't misconstrued a thing. I should have said The problem's with the people who agree to fight them and pay for them. If you pay taxes in the United States, YOU are responsible for the war in Iraq. No, sorry, you meant the vets to start with, and the above is a reactive backpedal: The vast majority of them fought and died because they were told to and had so little imagination that it never occurred to them that they could say no, to conscription and to the whole stupid business of war. Backpedal regardless, I *agree* with you that all of us who don't dedicate our lives and material resources to opposing war share in the responsibility for war. But (a) that was not what you said to start with; and (b) running away to France does not absolve you of that responsibility. Where does he pay his taxes? Of what country is he a citizen? US. But he pays his taxes in France. I'm a Canadian citzen who pays his taxes not in Canada but the US. So, Billie, I am absolved of all U.S. responsibilities? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [...] The reason this is off the mark is that in London during the Victorian era virtually everyone owned a handgun...it was a common as owning a TV is today. And practically everyone carried it with them, just as in the Wild West. What's even more amazing is that despite an almost universal ownership of guns, the murder rate by guns in London at that time was almost next to nothing...maybe one or two a year. Except by Jack the Ripper, of course... Not to mention that Shemp's stats are bullshit. In Victorian London, 70% of the population could barely afford clothes and food, much less a gun. As usual, he's talking about the rich as if they were the only ones who 'counted.' And just as a follow-up to my previous response to this post: what's clear from the Malcolm book that I cited is that gun ownership for the vast majority (90%) of England's population was not only a right but an obligation in the 18-19th century. Although the population before the industrial revolution was largely rural, as people moved to the big cities, like London, they almost certainly brought their habits and traditions of gun ownership with them. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lawson wrote: The sole point of the recert course was to establish a core group of TM teachers loyal to the organization The recert course required spending about $5,000 and a month of your time, which was completely taken up with training to open up Enlightenment Centers in Malls across the country and listening to lectures on how this would create Sat Yuga and make the recerts rich, none of which has happened ... and that's how you create a core group of TM teachers loyal to the organization. This he's just testing us and making us prove our loyalty went out in the 90s, didn't it?? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: Lawson wrote: The sole point of the recert course was to establish a core group of TM teachers loyal to the organization The recert course required spending about $5,000 and a month of your time, which was completely taken up with training to open up Enlightenment Centers in Malls across the country and listening to lectures on how this would create Sat Yuga and make the recerts rich, none of which has happened ... and that's how you create a core group of TM teachers loyal to the organization. It's how you *weed out* the teachers who aren't loyal enough to go along with it in the first place. This he's just testing us and making us prove our loyalty went out in the 90s, didn't it?? Us? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Somehow he (like many pro-Vietnam people did) has misconstrued our discussion as being anti-vet. snip The whole myth of 'honor the fallen dead' from all these wars is a way to NOT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR FIGHTING THE WARS. The problem's always with the 'leaders,' who start them. Well, duh...the problem's with the people who agree to fight them. In other words, the discussion (at least, Barry's side of it) was indeed anti-vet, and new_morning hasn't misconstrued a thing. I should have said The problem's with the people who agree to fight them and pay for them. If you pay taxes in the United States, YOU are responsible for the war in Iraq. No, sorry, you meant the vets to start with, and the above is a reactive backpedal: The vast majority of them fought and died because they were told to and had so little imagination that it never occurred to them that they could say no, to conscription and to the whole stupid business of war. Backpedal regardless, I *agree* with you that all of us who don't dedicate our lives and material resources to opposing war share in the responsibility for war. But (a) that was not what you said to start with; and (b) running away to France does not absolve you of that responsibility. Where does he pay his taxes? Of what country is he a citizen? US. But he pays his taxes in France. No investments in the U.S.? I'm a Canadian citzen who pays his taxes not in Canada but the US. No investments in Canada? So, Billie, I am absolved of all U.S. responsibilities? Does where you or Barry pay your taxes have anything to do with the point I was making, or is it another of your non sequiturs? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [...] The reason this is off the mark is that in London during the Victorian era virtually everyone owned a handgun...it was a common as owning a TV is today. And practically everyone carried it with them, just as in the Wild West. What's even more amazing is that despite an almost universal ownership of guns, the murder rate by guns in London at that time was almost next to nothing...maybe one or two a year. Except by Jack the Ripper, of course... Not to mention that Shemp's stats are bullshit. In Victorian London, 70% of the population could barely afford clothes and food, much less a gun. As usual, he's talking about the rich as if they were the only ones who 'counted.' Although I can't find statistics that back up or refute my almost universal ownership of guns statement, I remember reading that. But I'll stand corrected until I am able to come up with something. If you read it recently, Shemp, it's almost certainly related to a disinformation campaign being carried out by the NRA in conjunction with a show at their museum: http://nra.nationalfirearms.museum/whats%20new/default.asp I've seen several references to this made-up statistic on gun ownership in Victorian times, all traceable back to the NRA. I don't really want to get into a protracted discussion about either guns or the NRA. I got involved only because your statistic was obviously false given the levels of poverty in England in the Victorian era. We are talking about an age where poverty and starvation was rampant and in which large percentages of the population didn't have anything to *eat*, man. If any of these people had a gun, they would have been able to sell it at that time for enough money to feed their family for several months. I think you're being had by people who want to promote the idea that gun ownership does not equate crime. If that's what they wanted to prove, they had to go no further than mondern-day Canada. There was no need to make up statistics about Victorian England. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that Judy won't understand this, because she's too far gone, but the above comment is *exactly* why she and new_morning_blank_slate are consigned to my Pissant Bin. It's not that they have nothing to say. They don't, but that's beside the point. :-) It's that they are compelled to react to positions they don't agree with by TRYING TO MAKE THE OTHER PERSON FEEL BAD. *That* is what they are trying to achieve in their posts. I suspect that anyone here with any psychic sensibilities has felt this. You are correct in that I crossed my own line in personally attacking Bhairitu. I strongly disagreed with his post, but should have focussed on ideas not persons. I have long held that as the standard of good conduct, and at times have encouraged others to also follow it. For my transgression, I apologize. In this thread, when new_morning first jumped on Bhairitu for what he posted, his *first reaction* was to imply that there was something *wrong* with him for stating that opinion. He tried to portray Bhairitu as somehow bad and not caring about vets just because he made the points that he'd made. His *first reaction* was to try to make the person who disagreed with him the bad guy and (IMO) to try to make him feel bad about himself. It didn't work. Bhairitu laughed at him. Above, Judy expresses (not for the first time) her fantasy and her main reason for posting on the Internet. She has said many times that she *delights* in trying to make her opponents in a debate feel bad. That's *why* she debates them. Her *first reaction* in this thread was the same as new_morning's; she was interested only in finding someone she could put down, and hopefully make feel bad. I am curious. Are you attempting to make Judy feel bad? While not trying to make you feel bad, but perhaps to reflect a bit, my impression is that you quite regularly and agressively attack people, often by (mistakenly, IMO)characterizing their inner motives. Sometimes out and out name calling. For example, when you call people Pissants, are you attempting to make them feel good? I know that saying a poster is projecting their own inner issues is sometimes used without much basis. But here, it appears to me to have a strong foundation. Its something you might ponder. With your strong propensity for, and regular habit of attacking others, do you think it odd, perhaps indicative of something trying to resolve itself, that you so strongly attack attackers. It didn't work. It rarely does. It's sad, but as I and a number of others have said in the past, it's really Not Our Problem. Just because these two people get their jollies by trying to suck people into extended arguments with them so that they can put them down doesn't mean that we have to fall for it. While not trying to make you feel bad, the breadth of your sweeping genealizations still astonished me. I have made perhaps 100 posts in the past month. Only one that I can recall had a personal attack. And none were provokatively argumentative that I recall, they stated a POV. Some were even quite complimetary of the poster. Your hypothesis appears quite weak and devoid of much empirical support. Again, you might consider the possibility of projection here. You strongly attack provokation, yet appear to regularly engage in it. Even in this post, can you honestly say you are not trying to provoke Judy into anargument? In some of those 100 posts, still a minority, I did disagree with posters ideas. Quite a legitmate domain. It would be quite boring here if we all agreed with everything. That is quite distinct from disrespecting and trashing the poster. Perhaps that is a distinction that you appear to be blurring in your mind -- by seeing disagreements with ideas as personal attacks. As an observation, not intended to make you feel bad, but as something to reflect on and consider, the above appears to be a trigger for your personal attacks. When you disagree with a poster, far more often than not, you disregard the content and ideas of the post, and attack the poster, often by suggeting some (quite weak imo) hypotheses (stated as fact) regarding their motives and basic character. As you have done in this post. So again thank you for pointing out my stepping over the line and personally attacking Bhairitu. Focussing on ideas and a posts' content, and not sinking to personal attacks and speculations on inner motives (which are rarely complimentary and are usually a venue for pesonal attack), is a good standard that I try to maintain. I recommend and encourage it in all posts. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality
[FairfieldLife] Re: Human ancestors may have mated with chimps
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great post! I love this stuff. I think there is also evidence of Homo Sapien mating with Neanderthal back in the day. Early man was such a stud! I hear that after the second glass of Chardonnay, chimp chicks are a done deal! Try a banana daqueri. They go ape. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/31/06 8:19:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, babajii_99@ writes: Enlightened leadership is the only way out. But if the leadership is only a reflection of the collective consciousness, then you've got a real problem. In order to have enlightened leadership, you're going to have to have an enlightened society first. Huh, that's a good point! I've never heard that raised before. It seems so obvious now that you mention it. Self-evident? haha While I like the notion of leadership is only a reflection of the collective consciousness, in newly energized Kurtzian sensibilities, thats an idea, perhaps someday testable -- though that would be a challenge -- but it is neither fact nor a good theory that can make valid predictions. Is it true? How do you know it would be true? What would the kids be like if Paul Kurtz married Byron Katie? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But (a) that was not what you said to start with; and (b) running away to France does not absolve you of that responsibility. Where does he pay his taxes? Of what country is he a citizen? US. But he pays his taxes in France. I'm a Canadian citzen who pays his taxes not in Canada but the US. Not so relevant an example. So, Billie, I am absolved of all U.S. responsibilities? The US is fairly unique in that it imposes universal taxation on its citizens regardless of where they reside. A US citizen living in France, or Timbucktu, still is liable for US taxes. There are two loopholes. First if they pay taxes in their resident country, these can often be used to ofset any US tax liabilities. Second, if you stay outside of the US for most of any given tax year (its somthing like 48 weeks) then you have your first 80,000 sheltered from US taxes (but not local taxes). Most countries are like what Shemp describes, different than the US. Citizens of most countries residing in another, do not need to pay taxes of their citizen country. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: Lawson wrote: The sole point of the recert course was to establish a core group of TM teachers loyal to the organization The recert course required spending about $5,000 and a month of your time, which was completely taken up with training to open up Enlightenment Centers in Malls across the country and listening to lectures on how this would create Sat Yuga and make the recerts rich, none of which has happened ... and that's how you create a core group of TM teachers loyal to the organization. This he's just testing us and making us prove our loyalty went out in the 90s, didn't it?? Don't forget that it originally required quitting your job and promising to teach fulltime JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: Lawson wrote: The sole point of the recert course was to establish a core group of TM teachers loyal to the organization The recert course required spending about $5,000 and a month of your time, which was completely taken up with training to open up Enlightenment Centers in Malls across the country and listening to lectures on how this would create Sat Yuga and make the recerts rich, none of which has happened ... and that's how you create a core group of TM teachers loyal to the organization. This he's just testing us and making us prove our loyalty went out in the 90s, didn't it?? Don't forget that it originally required quitting your job and promising to teach fulltime For a guaranteed salary for life that turned out to be a lie within two or three months. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
Well it obviously wasn't that kind of guarantee, Barry. The guarantee part was that they were guaranteed to have any number of idiots who would still fall for a line like that. :) They were right. Sal On May 31, 2006, at 11:54 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > Don't forget that it originally required quitting your job and > promising to teach fulltime For a guaranteed salary for life that turned out to be a lie within two or three months.
[FairfieldLife] Ex-Star Wars Chief to Charge 9/11 Treason in Chicago
Ex-Star Wars Chief to Charge 9/11 Treason in Chicago Kevin Barrett, 30.05.2006 11:47 Col. Robert Bowman, Ph.D., former head of the Star Wars missile defense program, will charge top US officials with 9/11 high treason in an upcoming Chicago speech. Col. Bowman, who headed the Star Wars program under two U.S. administrations, will make these explosive charges in a speech at the upcoming Chicago conference, 9/11: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future (http://911revealingthetruth.orghttp://911revealingthetruth.org) A late addition to the conference schedule, Col. Bowman has an impressive resume and brings enormous credibility to the rapidly-growing 9/11 truth movement. It seems that America is now ready for Col. Bowman's message, since a recent Zogby poll shows that half of voting-age Americans believe the official story of 9/11 is a coverup. Col. Bowman, a scholar and ordained minister as well as a respected military figure, is currently running for a Florida seat in the U.S. House of Represenatatives. In a recent interview, he said he is planning to win his House race, go to Washington, and take the 9/11 truth movement mainstream. Col. Bowman, who is running as a Democrat, is one of many 9/11 truth candidates for local and national offices who will be attending a strategy session at the upcoming Chicago 9/11 truth conference. Others include Craig Hill, Green Party Senate candidate from Vermont; Carol Brouillet, House candidate from Northern California; and Sander Hicks, gubernatorial candidate from New York. Col. Bowman will be participating in the candidates' forum Sunday afternoon, and will give the plenary speech concluding the conference. (Click here for the complete conference schedule.) Kevin Barrett Coordinator, MUJCA-NET: http://mujca.comhttp://mujca.com Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/31/06 8:19:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, babajii_99@ writes: Enlightened leadership is the only way out. But if the leadership is only a reflection of the collective consciousness, then you've got a real problem. In order to have enlightened leadership, you're going to have to have an enlightened society first. Huh, that's a good point! I've never heard that raised before. It seems so obvious now that you mention it. Self-evident? haha I don't think I said self-evident. I think I said obvious. While I like the notion of leadership is only a reflection of the collective consciousness, in newly energized Kurtzian sensibilities, thats an idea, perhaps someday testable -- though that would be a challenge -- but it is neither fact nor a good theory that can make valid predictions. Is it true? How do you know it would be true? Er, did you read what I was commenting on? Did you actually read my comment? I was referring to what MDixon pointed out, that the TMO concepts of enlightened leadership, on the one hand, and leadership that reflects the consciousness of the people, on the other hand, don't seem to mesh very well. In other words, they can't both be true. What would the kids be like if Paul Kurtz married Byron Katie? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Above, Judy expresses (not for the first time) her fantasy and her main reason for posting on the Internet. She has said many times that she *delights* in trying to make her opponents in a debate feel bad. That's *why* she debates them. Her *first reaction* in this thread was the same as new_morning's; she was interested only in finding someone she could put down, and hopefully make feel bad. I am curious. Are you attempting to make Judy feel bad? Actually, he's lying through his teeth on both counts. The only way his lies could make me feel bad would be if I thought others were likely to believe them. While not trying to make you feel bad, but perhaps to reflect a bit, my impression is that you quite regularly and agressively attack people, often by (mistakenly, IMO)characterizing their inner motives. Sometimes out and out name calling. And sometimes blatant lies. Again, you might consider the possibility of projection here. You strongly attack provokation, yet appear to regularly engage in it. Even in this post, can you honestly say you are not trying to provoke Judy into anargument? Barry's standard tactic is to provoke someone into an argument, then run away from it. As an observation, not intended to make you feel bad, but as something to reflect on and consider, the above appears to be a trigger for your personal attacks. When you disagree with a poster, far more often than not, you disregard the content and ideas of the post, and attack the poster, often by suggeting some (quite weak imo) hypotheses (stated as fact) regarding their motives and basic character. As you have done in this post. And frequently he lies about what they've said in the past. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/31/06 8:19:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, babajii_99@ writes: Enlightened leadership is the only way out. But if the leadership is only a reflection of the collective consciousness, then you've got a real problem. In order to have enlightened leadership, you're going to have to have an enlightened society first. Huh, that's a good point! I've never heard that raised before. It seems so obvious now that you mention it. Self-evident? haha I was making a joke -- referencing past discussion about things self-evident. A joke not directed to you, but all of us. We all take things as self-evident when upon reflection, we realize they may or may not be true. I don't think I said self-evident. I think I said obvious. I never said, or meant to imply that you did. Sorry if you inferred it. I may add layers of explanatory text next time to make it clearer. While I like the notion of leadership is only a reflection of the collective consciousness, in newly energized Kurtzian sensibilities, thats an idea, perhaps someday testable -- though that would be a challenge -- but it is neither fact nor a good theory that can make valid predictions. Is it true? How do you know it would be true? Er, did you read what I was commenting on? Did you actually read my comment? The above has nothing to do with your comment. It has to do with Dixons. And my comment is just an _expression_ of my take on a premise often stated here about leadership and collective C. While I did read your comment, I was not commenting on it. I was not aggreeing or disagreeing with you. I was expressing an independent thought I had. Not all posts are about you. Though we all make that mistaken inference sometimes -- all comments refers to our posts. I could post the disclaimer this is a geneal comment not directed at anyone or their posts... but that would get tedious. I was referring to what MDixon pointed out, that the TMO concepts of enlightened leadership, on the one hand, and leadership that reflects the consciousness of the people, on the other hand, don't seem to mesh very well. In other words, they can't both be true. Fine. And I was expressing another thought, totally independent of yours. What would the kids be like if Paul Kurtz married Byron Katie? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
--- authfriend wrote: the TMO concepts of enlightened leadership, on the one hand, and leadership that reflects the consciousness of the people, on the other hand, don't seem to mesh very well. In other words, they can't both be true. I feel a little foolish to admit I'd never noticed this conflict before. It's funny! Maybe, in the TMO worldview, enlightened people are liberated from ties to collective consciousness, just as they're liberated in the sense of no longer having their consciousness bound in ignorance of its true nature. Still, that doesn't help with governance, because one cannot simply order people to do what they're not really committed to doing. (Stalin had ways to make it work, and Maharishi seems to have some success, but they're special cases.) So an enlightened leader might say, Let's forgive the terrorists, but the people would say, Screw that, I want blood. And the enlightened leader would have a problem. I had a conversation about this topic of orders versus persuasion with an Army major in my acquaintance. I said, It seems to me that in the Army, of all places, you could just say, 'Do this,' and it would get done. He said, Well, you could, but officers who work that way don't advance very far. He said subordinates will only do the minimum required to comply with the order, which isn't enough for real success in any endeavor short of maybe digging a latrine. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [...] The reason this is off the mark is that in London during the Victorian era virtually everyone owned a handgun...it was a common as owning a TV is today. And practically everyone carried it with them, just as in the Wild West. What's even more amazing is that despite an almost universal ownership of guns, the murder rate by guns in London at that time was almost next to nothing...maybe one or two a year. Except by Jack the Ripper, of course... Not to mention that Shemp's stats are bullshit. In Victorian London, 70% of the population could barely afford clothes and food, much less a gun. As usual, he's talking about the rich as if they were the only ones who 'counted.' Although I can't find statistics that back up or refute my almost universal ownership of guns statement, I remember reading that. But I'll stand corrected until I am able to come up with something. If you read it recently, Shemp, it's almost certainly related to a disinformation campaign being carried out by the NRA in conjunction with a show at their museum: http://nra.nationalfirearms.museum/whats%20new/default.asp I've seen several references to this made-up statistic on gun ownership in Victorian times, all traceable back to the NRA. I don't really want to get into a protracted discussion about either guns or the NRA. I got involved only because your statistic was obviously false given the levels of poverty in England in the Victorian era. We are talking about an age where poverty and starvation was rampant and in which large percentages of the population didn't have anything to *eat*, man. Well, if you're right, then show some stats or facts to back yourself up. At least I showed something in terms of facts...and this professor Malcolm: she does NOT represent the NRA. If any of these people had a gun, they would have been able to sell it at that time for enough money to feed their family for several months. I think you're being had by people who want to promote the idea that gun ownership does not equate crime. If that's what they wanted to prove, they had to go no further than mondern-day Canada. There was no need to make up statistics about Victorian England. You're right...because in many categories the crime rate in Canada is HIGHER than in the U.Sand it's not the NRA saying this but the most biased-towards-Canada source than there could be: the Canadian government: http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/011218/d011218b.htm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] ANNOUNCING: FairfieldLife Civility Day
June 1st is FairfieldLife Civility Day. That means that for just this one 24-hour period EVERYONE -- including Judy Stein, Barry Wright, and, yes, myself, Shemp -- will debate, discourse, and exchange words with everyone else in a civil manner. NO NAME CALLING NO PROFANITY POSITIVE, APPRECIATIVE WORDS FOR OPPOSING VIEWS Should we give it a try...just for this one day...and see how we feel about it? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Disease Warning from the CDC
The Center for Disease Control and Prevention has issued a warning about a new virulent strain of a sexually transmitted disease. The disease is contracted through dangerous and high risk behavior. The disease is called Gonorrhea Lectim. Many victims contracted it in 2004, after having been screwed for the past four years. Cognitive characteristics of individuals infected include: anti-social personality disorders, delusions of grandeur with messianic overtones, extreme cognitive dissonance, inability to incorporate new information, pronounced xenophobia and paranoia, inability to accept responsibility for own actions, cowardice masked by misplaced bravado, uncontrolled facial smirking, ignorance of geography and history, tendencies towards evangelical theocracy, and categorical all- or-nothing behavior. Naturalists and epidemiologists are amazed at how this destructive disease has spread this far in only a few years, from a lone bush originally found in Texas. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip I don't think I said self-evident. I think I said obvious. I never said, or meant to imply that you did. Sorry if you inferred it. I may add layers of explanatory text next time to make it clearer. Given that self-evident is often used when one actually means obvious, in this case an explanatory note would have been helpful. snip Not all posts are about you. Though we all make that mistaken inference sometimes -- all comments refers to our posts. I could post the disclaimer this is a geneal comment not directed at anyone or their posts... but that would get tedious. When for some reason I can't respond to the original post but have to respond to a quote of it in somebody else's response (as you did here), I do explain that's what I'm doing. I also delete the response of the second person so that only what I'm responding to is quoted in my post. That avoids confusion. But I do this only when I have to (e.g., when the original has disappeared or never showed up). Since that's pretty rare, I don't have to do it often enough for it to become tedious. In any case, all the above (including responding to the original post whenever possible) is just generally good netiquette, since it's natural to assume that when someone responds to a post of yours, they're, you know, responding to your post. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well it obviously wasn't that kind of guarantee, Barry. The guarantee part was that they were guaranteed to have any number of idiots who would still fall for a line like that. :) They were right. Sal And they will aquire more property because of them, too. In the meantime no begins to meditate oh, wait, that's normal... JohnY On May 31, 2006, at 11:54 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Don't forget that it originally required quitting your job and promising to teach fulltime For a guaranteed salary for life that turned out to be a lie within two or three months. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend wrote: the TMO concepts of enlightened leadership, on the one hand, and leadership that reflects the consciousness of the people, on the other hand, don't seem to mesh very well. In other words, they can't both be true. I feel a little foolish to admit I'd never noticed this conflict before. Boy, me too! And now that MDixon has pointed it out, I'm astonished that apparently nobody else has ever noticed it, at least not that I've seen. Goodness knows there have been any number of discussions about both aspects of TM theory. It's funny! Maybe, in the TMO worldview, enlightened people are liberated from ties to collective consciousness, just as they're liberated in the sense of no longer having their consciousness bound in ignorance of its true nature. I can hear that one creaking painfully all the way from the Jersey shore... Still, that doesn't help with governance, because one cannot simply order people to do what they're not really committed to doing. (Stalin had ways to make it work, and Maharishi seems to have some success, but they're special cases.) So an enlightened leader might say, Let's forgive the terrorists, but the people would say, Screw that, I want blood. And the enlightened leader would have a problem. Here's my contribution to creaky rationalizations: Presumably the enlightened leader would know better than to propose something his/her ignorant people would resist doing (unless their resistance would accomplish something else s/he wanted done). I had a conversation about this topic of orders versus persuasion with an Army major in my acquaintance. I said, It seems to me that in the Army, of all places, you could just say, 'Do this,' and it would get done. He said, Well, you could, but officers who work that way don't advance very far. He said subordinates will only do the minimum required to comply with the order, which isn't enough for real success in any endeavor short of maybe digging a latrine. At least in the Army, officers advance based on how well their subordinates succeed. That isn't always the case in other types of institutions. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend wrote: the TMO concepts of enlightened leadership, on the one hand, and leadership that reflects the consciousness of the people, on the other hand, don't seem to mesh very well. In other words, they can't both be true. I feel a little foolish to admit I'd never noticed this conflict before. It's funny! Maybe, in the TMO worldview, enlightened people are liberated from ties to collective consciousness, just as they're liberated in the sense of no longer having their consciousness bound in ignorance of its true nature. Still, that doesn't help with governance, because one cannot simply order people to do what they're not really committed to doing. (Stalin had ways to make it work, and Maharishi seems to have some success, but they're special cases.) So an enlightened leader might say, Let's forgive the terrorists, but the people would say, Screw that, I want blood. And the enlightened leader would have a problem. I had a conversation about this topic of orders versus persuasion with an Army major in my acquaintance. I said, It seems to me that in the Army, of all places, you could just say, 'Do this,' and it would get done. He said, Well, you could, but officers who work that way don't advance very far. He said subordinates will only do the minimum required to comply with the order, which isn't enough for real success in any endeavor short of maybe digging a latrine. Or they could do what Krishna advised Arjuna to do. Forgive them, then kill them. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: In any case, all the above (including responding to the original post whenever possible) is just generally good netiquette, since it's natural to assume that when someone responds to a post of yours, they're, you know, responding to your post. I agree that clarity is good, though awkward and wordy at times. since it's natural to assume that when someone responds to a post of yours, they're, you know, responding to your post. I am not sure that is always wise. It can lead to confusion. Many posts are reflections on an overall discussion. They may be general, new and independent points, not specific responses to any particular poster. In that case, if you're not explicitly commenting on something someone else has said, you can delete any quotes from your post. Before assuming a poster is responding to your comments, perhaps pause before posting your new response, and consider if there are other possibilities. No, I think I'll just continue to assume that most posters have the courtesy not to respond to someone's post when they aren't commenting on it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Disease Warning from the CDC
TurquoiseB wrote: The Center for Disease Control and Prevention has issued a warning about a new virulent strain of a sexually transmitted disease. The disease is contracted through dangerous and high risk behavior. The disease is called Gonorrhea Lectim. Many victims contracted it in 2004, after having been screwed for the past four years. Cognitive characteristics of individuals infected include: anti-social personality disorders, delusions of grandeur with messianic overtones, extreme cognitive dissonance, inability to incorporate new information, pronounced xenophobia and paranoia, inability to accept responsibility for own actions, cowardice masked by misplaced bravado, uncontrolled facial smirking, ignorance of geography and history, tendencies towards evangelical theocracy, and categorical all- or-nothing behavior. Naturalists and epidemiologists are amazed at how this destructive disease has spread this far in only a few years, from a lone bush originally found in Texas. I hate to go off topic but there also seems to be a very virulent strain of telemarketinganitus spreading throughout the country. One of my credit card companies keeps calling to sell me a credit report service. For some reason they seem to have a problem understanding some part of I'm not interested. I know all their numbers so just kill the call when I see the caller ID. But the other day I wanted to see what they were pushing and I wound up just hanging up on the idiot. They keep calling back. Anyhoo, I wanted to ask does France have telemarketers? Seems to me the French would have little tolerance for such idiocy. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ex-Star Wars Chief to Charge 9/11 Treason in Chicago
Have you heard this MP3? http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=101 Either this guy has a helluva imagination or the cabal is deeper than suspected. It's from a guy who worked at a company at the WTC he feels may have had connections with 911. I have always been suspect of the 911 official story. I have my doubts that Al Qaeda could have planned such a thing (how DID they get those building prepped for demolition) and Bin Laden initially denied responsibility (probably until the funds showed up in his Swiss account). feste37 wrote: Ex-Star Wars Chief to Charge 9/11 Treason in Chicago Kevin Barrett, 30.05.2006 11:47 Col. Robert Bowman, Ph.D., former head of the Star Wars missile defense program, will charge top US officials with 9/11 high treason in an upcoming Chicago speech. Col. Bowman, who headed the Star Wars program under two U.S. administrations, will make these explosive charges in a speech at the upcoming Chicago conference, 9/11: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future (http://911revealingthetruth.orghttp://911revealingthetruth.org) A late addition to the conference schedule, Col. Bowman has an impressive resume and brings enormous credibility to the rapidly-growing 9/11 truth movement. It seems that America is now ready for Col. Bowman's message, since a recent Zogby poll shows that half of voting-age Americans believe the official story of 9/11 is a coverup. Col. Bowman, a scholar and ordained minister as well as a respected military figure, is currently running for a Florida seat in the U.S. House of Represenatatives. In a recent interview, he said he is planning to win his House race, go to Washington, and take the 9/11 truth movement mainstream. Col. Bowman, who is running as a Democrat, is one of many 9/11 truth candidates for local and national offices who will be attending a strategy session at the upcoming Chicago 9/11 truth conference. Others include Craig Hill, Green Party Senate candidate from Vermont; Carol Brouillet, House candidate from Northern California; and Sander Hicks, gubernatorial candidate from New York. Col. Bowman will be participating in the candidates' forum Sunday afternoon, and will give the plenary speech concluding the conference. (Click here for the complete conference schedule.) Kevin Barrett Coordinator, MUJCA-NET: http://mujca.comhttp://mujca.com Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: Before assuming a poster is responding to your comments, perhaps pause before posting your new response, and consider if there are other possibilities. No, I think I'll just continue to assume that most posters have the courtesy not to respond to someone's post when they aren't commenting on it. Ok. Well I aplogize if you feel my post in question was discourteous. (You did not say that directly but it was implied above) While discourtesy had nothing to do with my intentions, its good feedback and eye-opening when some find things in ones writing that were not intended. I find writing improves in proportion to the number of different views and takes on the same words, from a diverse readerhsip, that one can see from. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Disease Warning from the CDC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to go off topic but there also seems to be a very virulent strain of telemarketinganitus spreading throughout the country. One of my credit card companies keeps calling to sell me a credit report service. For some reason they seem to have a problem understanding some part of I'm not interested. I know all their numbers so just kill the call when I see the caller ID. But the other day I wanted to see what they were pushing and I wound up just hanging up on the idiot. They keep calling back. Anyhoo, I wanted to ask does France have telemarketers? Seems to me the French would have little tolerance for such idiocy. Sadly, the French have idiots, too, and some of them are telemarketers. I don't have caller ID, but there is the same tip-off here as there was in the US. If you answer and no one is there and then you hear a click, it's a telemarketer. what happens is that a machine auto-dials their list of suckers and then transfers it to a human being (or close approximation thereof) when someone answers. The pause and the click is the giveaway every time. So whenever I hear them I hang up. It's never failed. I figure if it were really some- one I know calling me or someone trying to reach me about something important, they'd call right back. But no one ever calls back, so it's telemarketers. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
Maybe it's another chicken or egg connundrum... but I think if we go down a scale I'm sure we can find variousa historical cases of an unenlightened population experiencing a political shift from oppressive rule to a more benign one, without much change happening inbetween in the collective consciousness.. Maybe the Collective Karma is the key player here? Also I'd rather think an enlightened leader - even in the army - can lead by INSPIRING followers to new moral and practical achievements, not merely reflecting the lowest common denominator.. such as when slavery was abolished in spite of overwhelming contrary interests and forces etc. If one had to wait for an enlightened society as a precondition, who'd need the enlightened leader anyway - every individual would be sovreign invincible... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- authfriend wrote: the TMO concepts of enlightened leadership, on the one hand, and leadership that reflects the consciousness of the people, on the other hand, don't seem to mesh very well. In other words, they can't both be true. I feel a little foolish to admit I'd never noticed this conflict before. It's funny! Maybe, in the TMO worldview, enlightened people are liberated from ties to collective consciousness, just as they're liberated in the sense of no longer having their consciousness bound in ignorance of its true nature. Still, that doesn't help with governance, because one cannot simply order people to do what they're not really committed to doing. (Stalin had ways to make it work, and Maharishi seems to have some success, but they're special cases.) So an enlightened leader might say, Let's forgive the terrorists, but the people would say, Screw that, I want blood. And the enlightened leader would have a problem. I had a conversation about this topic of orders versus persuasion with an Army major in my acquaintance. I said, It seems to me that in the Army, of all places, you could just say, 'Do this,' and it would get done. He said, Well, you could, but officers who work that way don't advance very far. He said subordinates will only do the minimum required to comply with the order, which isn't enough for real success in any endeavor short of maybe digging a latrine. Or they could do what Krishna advised Arjuna to do. Forgive them, then kill them. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Disease Warning from the CDC
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to go off topic but there also seems to be a very virulent strain of telemarketinganitus spreading throughout the country. One of my credit card companies keeps calling to sell me a credit report service. For some reason they seem to have a problem understanding some part of I'm not interested. I know all their numbers so just kill the call when I see the caller ID. But the other day I wanted to see what they were pushing and I wound up just hanging up on the idiot. They keep calling back. Anyhoo, I wanted to ask does France have telemarketers? Seems to me the French would have little tolerance for such idiocy. Sadly, the French have idiots, too, and some of them are telemarketers. I don't have caller ID, but there is the same tip-off here as there was in the US. If you answer and no one is there and then you hear a click, it's a telemarketer. what happens is that a machine auto-dials their list of suckers and then transfers it to a human being (or close approximation thereof) when someone answers. The pause and the click is the giveaway every time. So whenever I hear them I hang up. It's never failed. I figure if it were really some- one I know calling me or someone trying to reach me about something important, they'd call right back. But no one ever calls back, so it's telemarketers. I do the same thing with the auto-dialers. There was even a device sold that foiled the autodialers into thinking they hit a modem or fax machine which would often result in the number being taken off the list. When I get really pissed I have some screeching audio files I play back over the phone. :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Mandala Construction Photos
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Disease Warning from the CDC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I hate to go off topic but there also seems to be a very virulent strain of telemarketinganitus spreading throughout the country. One of my credit card companies keeps calling to sell me a credit report service. For some reason they seem to have a problem understanding some part of I'm not interested. I know all their numbers so just kill the call when I see the caller ID. But the other day I wanted to see what they were pushing and I wound up just hanging up on the idiot. They keep calling back. Anyhoo, I wanted to ask does France have telemarketers? Seems to me the French would have little tolerance for such idiocy. Sadly, the French have idiots, too, and some of them are telemarketers. I don't have caller ID, but there is the same tip-off here as there was in the US. If you answer and no one is there and then you hear a click, it's a telemarketer. what happens is that a machine auto-dials their list of suckers and then transfers it to a human being (or close approximation thereof) when someone answers. The pause and the click is the giveaway every time. So whenever I hear them I hang up. Yes, the pause and click is a give-away that it is definitely a telemarketer. It's also a sign of a cheap telemarketing system that the company is using. High-end systems do NOT have that tell-tale pause. It's never failed. I figure if it were really some- one I know calling me or someone trying to reach me about something important, they'd call right back. But no one ever calls back, so it's telemarketers. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Enlightened Leaders
While not directly responding to any particular post or poster, much of the discussion appears to be premised on the assumption that enlightenment in-itself is a strongly positive characteristic desirable in a leader. And perhaps some feel that enlightenement in-itself would be sufficient to make anyone a great political leader. I question such assumptions. First, some who claim enlightenement, make a case that consciousness awake to itself has nothing to do with behavior, good or bad. And the later is still quite possible. Second, this view is different than MMY's who hold in enlightenment, all action is accord with the laws of nature, life suppporting. etc. This concept may be behind the call for enlightened leadership. But This is a supposition, a hypothesis that is hard to fully test. Thus enlightened leadership with all action is accord with the laws of nature, being life suppporting etc may be just a nice myth. Third, effective political leadership usually requires many diverse qualities, experience and training. That much current political leadership is not effective underscores this -- many leaders don't have of the desirable qualities, experience and training that support effective leadership. To assume that an enlightened person without strong leadership qualities, experience and training will be a good leader is a deeply flawed premise. Scary in fact. Personally I can't imagine any good outcome if some, perhaps if any, of those claiming enlightenement were to become governor or president. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's another chicken or egg connundrum... but I think if we go down a scale I'm sure we can find variousa historical cases of an unenlightened population experiencing a political shift from oppressive rule to a more benign one, without much change happening inbetween in the collective consciousness.. Maybe the Collective Karma is the key player here? Also I'd rather think an enlightened leader - even in the army - can lead by INSPIRING followers to new moral and practical achievements, not merely reflecting the lowest common denominator.. such as when slavery was abolished in spite of overwhelming contrary interests and forces etc. If one had to wait for an enlightened society as a precondition, who'd need the enlightened leader anyway - every individual would be sovreign invincible... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- authfriend wrote: the TMO concepts of enlightened leadership, on the one hand, and leadership that reflects the consciousness of the people, on the other hand, don't seem to mesh very well. In other words, they can't both be true. I feel a little foolish to admit I'd never noticed this conflict before. It's funny! Maybe, in the TMO worldview, enlightened people are liberated from ties to collective consciousness, just as they're liberated in the sense of no longer having their consciousness bound in ignorance of its true nature. Still, that doesn't help with governance, because one cannot simply order people to do what they're not really committed to doing. (Stalin had ways to make it work, and Maharishi seems to have some success, but they're special cases.) So an enlightened leader might say, Let's forgive the terrorists, but the people would say, Screw that, I want blood. And the enlightened leader would have a problem. I had a conversation about this topic of orders versus persuasion with an Army major in my acquaintance. I said, It seems to me that in the Army, of all places, you could just say, 'Do this,' and it would get done. He said, Well, you could, but officers who work that way don't advance very far. He said subordinates will only do the minimum required to comply with the order, which isn't enough for real success in any endeavor short of maybe digging a latrine. Or they could do what Krishna advised Arjuna to do. Forgive them, then kill them. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Disease Warning from the CDC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I hate to go off topic but there also seems to be a very virulent strain of telemarketinganitus spreading throughout the country. One of my credit card companies keeps calling to sell me a credit report service. For some reason they seem to have a problem understanding some part of I'm not interested. I know all their numbers so just kill the call when I see the caller ID. But the other day I wanted to see what they were pushing and I wound up just hanging up on the idiot. They keep calling back. Anyhoo, I wanted to ask does France have telemarketers? Seems to me the French would have little tolerance for such idiocy. Sadly, the French have idiots, too, and some of them are telemarketers. I don't have caller ID, but there is the same tip-off here as there was in the US. If you answer and no one is there and then you hear a click, it's a telemarketer. what happens is that a machine auto-dials their list of suckers and then transfers it to a human being (or close approximation thereof) when someone answers. The pause and the click is the giveaway every time. So whenever I hear them I hang up. It's never failed. I figure if it were really some- one I know calling me or someone trying to reach me about something important, they'd call right back. But no one ever calls back, so it's telemarketers. I do the same thing with the auto-dialers. There was even a device sold that foiled the autodialers into thinking they hit a modem or fax machine which would often result in the number being taken off the list. When I get really pissed I have some screeching audio files I play back over the phone. :) I don't know about you but despite being on the donotcall list, over the past several months telemarketing calls have really increased to my home. Perhaps it is because I am self-employed and I use my home phone number as the listed business number for several professional filings I am required to do (such as licenses. Because these filings are public domain and since businesses are exempt from the donotcall list, perhaps that is what is happening. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
--- jyouells2000 wrote: --- Gillam wrote: an enlightened leader might say, Let's forgive the terrorists, but the people would say, Screw that, I want blood. And the enlightened leader would have a problem. Or they could do what Krishna advised Arjuna to do. Forgive them, then kill them. Exactly. And your remark points up a fault in my wording. In my world, forgiveness doesn't mean the offender necessarily gets off without punishment. Sometimes he does, but for serious offenses, the offender must suffer consequences, lest he hurt someone again. My example deals more with the hearts and minds of the people hurt. A way to release fear and recrimination is to forgive. In my mind, a true leader - especially a Christian - would lead the nation in healing, and forgiveness would be a place to start. But that's just my assumption of what enlightened leadership might be. As blank slate points out in another post, 'tain't necessarily so. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] A possible solution to our growing antibiotic problem
Eat Me The Soviet method for attacking infection that we can learn from. By Daria Vaisman Posted Tuesday, May 30, 2006, at 12:41 PM ET Illustration of a bacteriophage In the 1920s and '30s, with diseases like dysentery and cholera running rampant, the discovery of bacteriophages was hailed as a breakthrough. Bacteriophages are viruses found virtually everywhere from soil to seawater to your intestinesthat kill specific, infection-causing bacteria. In the United States, the drug company Eli Lilly marketed phages for abscesses and respiratory infections. (Sinclair Lewis' Pulitzer-winning Arrowsmith is about a doctor who uses phages to prevent a diphtheria epidemic.) But by the 1940s, American scientists stopped working with phages for treatment because they no longer had reason to. Penicillin, discovered by the Scottish bacteriologist Alexander Fleming in 1928, had become widely available thanks to synthetic production and zapped infections without the expertise needed for finicky phages. But now the equation has changed. Many kinds of bacteria have become antibiotic-resistantprompting a few Western scientists, and patients, to travel to former Soviet Georgia to give bacteriophages for treatment a try. Phages have been used in the former Soviet Union for decades because scientists there had less access to antibiotics than their American and European counterparts did. Phages were a cheap alternative, and in Soviet clinical trials, they repeatedly stopped infections. Now in a bid for medical tourists, Georgia has opened a center in its capital, Tbilisi, which offers outpatient phage treatment to foreigners. In connection with the Eliava phage research institute, which Stalin helped set up in Tbilisi in 1923, the treatment center offers personalized cures for a host of infections the United States says it can no longer do anything about. In 2000, the Centers for Disease Control, along with other federal agencies, warned that the world might soon return to a pre- antibiotic era. Two million people each year now get hospital-borne bacterial infections, 1.4 million of them resistant to antibiotics and 90,000 of them lethal. One example is sepsis, the infection that killed Joan Didion's daughter, as Didion relates in The Year of Magical Thinking. New antibiotics are being discovered. But it takes 10 years and at least $800 million to bring an antibiotic to market, according to the Infectious Diseases Society of America. The big advantage that phages offer over antibiotics is that bacterial resistance is less of a problem. Unlike antibiotics, new phage batches can quickly be whipped up to take the place of phages to which bacteria become resistant. The word phage comes from the Greek to eat. A phage contains genetic material that gets injected into a virus's host. Whereas bad viruses infect healthy cells, phages target specific bacteria that then explode. At Eliava, phages are produced as a liquid that can be drunk or injected intravenously, as pills, or as phage-containing patches for wounds. Though few published articles in Western journals report positive clinical trialsmost of the recent long-term research on phages comes out of the Soviet Union some Western scientists say that phages are safe and that they work. There is no evidence that phage is harmful in any way, says Nick Mann, a biology professor at the University of Warwick in England and co-director of phage RD company Novolytics. So, why do American patients need to go to all the way to Georgia for treatment? For starters, in their natural state phages are hard to patent, the route by which drug companies lock up future profits. The first company to spend millions of dollars to prove that a particular phage is safe could allow its competitors to capitalize on the results. As important is the difficulty of regulation. There are two ways that phages are currently used in the former Soviet Union, and both pose problems from the point of view of the Food and Drug Administration. At the Tbilisi phage center, phages are personalized: You send your bacterial sample to the lab, and it's either matched up with an existing phage or a phage is cultured just for you. In the United States, by contrast, drugs are mass produced, which makes it easier for the FDA to regulate them. Phages are also sold over-the-counter in Georgia. People take the popular mixture piobacteriophage, for example, to fight off common infections including staph and strep. These phage mixtures are updated regularly so they can attack newly emerging bacterial strains. In the United States, the FDA would want the phages in each new concoction to be gene sequenced, because regulations require every component of a drug to be identified. To do so would entail prohibitively expensive and lengthy clinical trials. In the early years of phage research in the United States, says former National Institutes of
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jyouells2000 wrote: --- Gillam wrote: an enlightened leader might say, Let's forgive the terrorists, but the people would say, Screw that, I want blood. And the enlightened leader would have a problem. Or they could do what Krishna advised Arjuna to do. Forgive them, then kill them. Exactly. And your remark points up a fault in my wording. In my world, forgiveness doesn't mean the offender necessarily gets off without punishment. Sometimes he does, but for serious offenses, the offender must suffer consequences, lest he hurt someone again. My example deals more with the hearts and minds of the people hurt. A way to release fear and recrimination is to forgive. In my mind, a true leader - especially a Christian - would lead the nation in healing, and forgiveness would be a place to start. But that's just my assumption of what enlightened leadership might be. As blank slate points out in another post, 'tain't necessarily so. Forgiveness, like 'enlightenment' may only happen one person at a time. Like Charlie used to say, They come out of the well one at a time. Let's just hope it's in quick succession! JohnY PS. Makes me think of Jimmy Carter's misguided policies To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Updates on the Kaplans
Does anybody have the latest info on Earl and David Kaplan's situation with the Heavenly Mountain/Mother Divine and the TM movement? Thank you in advance. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened Leaders
I agree enlightenment in itself is no guarantee for effective leadership - Guru Dev desperately just wanted to be left alone and escaped into the forest. MMY desperately wanted to be a world leader with a world government of his own.. well Nature obviously had other plans. But take for instance Gandhi. He may have not have been enlightened as such but was perceived as personifying enlightened leadership and WAS inspirational as a leader and brought about change well beyond the political expectations of his day - against the world power ruling his country. And he did it all in a spiritual, non-violent way, at considerable personal risk. Then there is the example of Jesus - also spiritual inspiring but unable to deal with Roman might the way Gandhi managed with the British - but then perhaps he was too much ahead of his time and paid the penalty - timing is obviously another factor to consider. So we have enlightenment (or near enlightenment), popular perception of the leader as personification of enlightenment, which thereby inspires the people and results in an effect that is greater than the sum of its parts, so long as location timing are right and Nature doesn't have other plans --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While not directly responding to any particular post or poster, much of the discussion appears to be premised on the assumption that enlightenment in-itself is a strongly positive characteristic desirable in a leader. And perhaps some feel that enlightenement in-itself would be sufficient to make anyone a great political leader. I question such assumptions. First, some who claim enlightenement, make a case that consciousness awake to itself has nothing to do with behavior, good or bad. And the later is still quite possible. Second, this view is different than MMY's who hold in enlightenment, all action is accord with the laws of nature, life suppporting. etc. This concept may be behind the call for enlightened leadership. But This is a supposition, a hypothesis that is hard to fully test. Thus enlightened leadership with all action is accord with the laws of nature, being life suppporting etc may be just a nice myth. Third, effective political leadership usually requires many diverse qualities, experience and training. That much current political leadership is not effective underscores this -- many leaders don't have of the desirable qualities, experience and training that support effective leadership. To assume that an enlightened person without strong leadership qualities, experience and training will be a good leader is a deeply flawed premise. Scary in fact. Personally I can't imagine any good outcome if some, perhaps if any, of those claiming enlightenement were to become governor or president. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Maybe it's another chicken or egg connundrum... but I think if we go down a scale I'm sure we can find variousa historical cases of an unenlightened population experiencing a political shift from oppressive rule to a more benign one, without much change happening inbetween in the collective consciousness.. Maybe the Collective Karma is the key player here? Also I'd rather think an enlightened leader - even in the army - can lead by INSPIRING followers to new moral and practical achievements, not merely reflecting the lowest common denominator.. such as when slavery was abolished in spite of overwhelming contrary interests and forces etc. If one had to wait for an enlightened society as a precondition, who'd need the enlightened leader anyway - every individual would be sovreign invincible... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- authfriend wrote: the TMO concepts of enlightened leadership, on the one hand, and leadership that reflects the consciousness of the people, on the other hand, don't seem to mesh very well. In other words, they can't both be true. I feel a little foolish to admit I'd never noticed this conflict before. It's funny! Maybe, in the TMO worldview, enlightened people are liberated from ties to collective consciousness, just as they're liberated in the sense of no longer having their consciousness bound in ignorance of its true nature. Still, that doesn't help with governance, because one cannot simply order people to do what they're not really committed to doing. (Stalin had ways to make it work, and Maharishi seems to have some success, but they're special cases.) So an enlightened leader might say, Let's forgive the terrorists, but the people would say, Screw that, I want blood. And the enlightened
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Disease Warning from the CDC
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I hate to go off topic but there also seems to be a very virulent strain of telemarketinganitus spreading throughout the country. One of my credit card companies keeps calling to sell me a credit report service. For some reason they seem to have a problem understanding some part of I'm not interested. I know all their numbers so just kill the call when I see the caller ID. But the other day I wanted to see what they were pushing and I wound up just hanging up on the idiot. They keep calling back. Anyhoo, I wanted to ask does France have telemarketers? Seems to me the French would have little tolerance for such idiocy. Sadly, the French have idiots, too, and some of them are telemarketers. I don't have caller ID, but there is the same tip-off here as there was in the US. If you answer and no one is there and then you hear a click, it's a telemarketer. what happens is that a machine auto-dials their list of suckers and then transfers it to a human being (or close approximation thereof) when someone answers. The pause and the click is the giveaway every time. So whenever I hear them I hang up. It's never failed. I figure if it were really some- one I know calling me or someone trying to reach me about something important, they'd call right back. But no one ever calls back, so it's telemarketers. I do the same thing with the auto-dialers. There was even a device sold that foiled the autodialers into thinking they hit a modem or fax machine which would often result in the number being taken off the list. When I get really pissed I have some screeching audio files I play back over the phone. :) I don't know about you but despite being on the donotcall list, over the past several months telemarketing calls have really increased to my home. Perhaps it is because I am self-employed and I use my home phone number as the listed business number for several professional filings I am required to do (such as licenses. Because these filings are public domain and since businesses are exempt from the donotcall list, perhaps that is what is happening. I'm unlisted but even with the DoNotCall list any company you do business with can call you. So your bank, mortgage, credit card, phone, cable, etc. companies can still call you. Companies you don't do business with you can sue if they keep calling you. In one case my cable company called to sell me cable Internet but I told them I do business via Internet and can't afford to play ISP roulette. They took note and stopped calling. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Updates on the Kaplans
on 5/31/06 3:47 PM, steveemming at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody have the latest info on Earl and David Kaplan's situation with the Heavenly Mountain/Mother Divine and the TM movement? Thank you in advance. As far as I know, the lawsuits are finished, the place is sold, Purusha and MD are out of there, and Kaplans have moved on to other spiritual and temporal pursuits. Only remnants are some 'Ru homeowners who undoubtedly are trying to sell their homes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I understand what the implied strategic thinking is. I'm talking about the ethical stance. The strategy could just as easily be: It's inevitalble that there will be trouble with the law (land and real estate stuff) or all those pesky teachers. Lets make the group much smaller. At the same time appeal to their guilt one last time. Million dollar cources, and raja's and we won't really teach TM anymore. Stores and farms, yes, lawsuits, yes, but teaching, no. It'll look cool and so crazy that the law and most of the meditators won't bother with us anymore. We can move all the money into India and really make a killing on all that land later JohnY It's certainly a possible explanation, but you have to explain why a 89-year-old who spent his life trying to spiritually regenerate the world would decide to go this route in the last few years of his life, rather than trying to establish an enduring legacy, as *I* say is the case. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Message
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [...] The reason this is off the mark is that in London during the Victorian era virtually everyone owned a handgun...it was a common as owning a TV is today. And practically everyone carried it with them, just as in the Wild West. What's even more amazing is that despite an almost universal ownership of guns, the murder rate by guns in London at that time was almost next to nothing...maybe one or two a year. Except by Jack the Ripper, of course... I don't think he killed by shooting but by gutting. True, but are you implying that all gun owners were sane simply because they owned guns? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/31/06 8:19:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Enlightened leadership is the only way out. But if the leadership is only a reflection of the collective consciousness, then you've got a real problem. In order to have enlightened leadership, you're going to have to have an enlightened society first. Unless you can enlighten the leadership directly, fast enough that they don't get thrown out of office before they can have an enlightening effect on everyone else by virtue of their mundane influence. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/31/06 8:19:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, babajii_99@ writes: Enlightened leadership is the only way out. But if the leadership is only a reflection of the collective consciousness, then you've got a real problem. In order to have enlightened leadership, you're going to have to have an enlightened society first. Huh, that's a good point! I've never heard that raised before. It seems so obvious now that you mention it. Sometimes, if a single leaf of a plant is important enough, addressing that single leaf WILL have an important enough influence on the rest of the plant that a wise gardener will attend to it directly. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] ANNOUNCING: FairfieldLife Civility Day
In a message dated 5/31/06 1:12:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: June 1st is FairfieldLife Civility Day.That means that for just this one 24-hour period EVERYONE -- including Judy Stein, Barry Wright, and, yes, myself, Shemp -- will debate, discourse, and exchange words with everyone else in a civil manner.NO NAME CALLINGNO PROFANITYPOSITIVE, APPRECIATIVE WORDS FOR OPPOSING VIEWSShould we give it a try...just for this one day...and see how we feel about it? Why? hehehehe To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Human ancestors may have mated with chimps
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Great post! I love this stuff. I think there is also evidence of Homo Sapien mating with Neanderthal back in the day. Early man was such a stud! I hear that after the second glass of Chardonnay, chimp chicks are a done deal! Try a banana daqueri. They go ape. Q: What do you get when you cross a human with a bonobo chimp? A: Boy! You'll do anything to find a date, won't you? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: Lawson wrote: The sole point of the recert course was to establish a core group of TM teachers loyal to the organization The recert course required spending about $5,000 and a month of your time, which was completely taken up with training to open up Enlightenment Centers in Malls across the country and listening to lectures on how this would create Sat Yuga and make the recerts rich, none of which has happened ... and that's how you create a core group of TM teachers loyal to the organization. This he's just testing us and making us prove our loyalty went out in the 90s, didn't it?? Don't forget that it originally required quitting your job and promising to teach fulltime Isn't that still a requirement? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: ANNOUNCING: FairfieldLife Civility Day
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: June 1st is FairfieldLife Civility Day. That means that for just this one 24-hour period EVERYONE -- including Judy Stein, Barry Wright, and, yes, myself, Shemp -- will debate, discourse, and exchange words with everyone else in a civil manner. NO NAME CALLING NO PROFANITY POSITIVE, APPRECIATIVE WORDS FOR OPPOSING VIEWS Should we give it a try...just for this one day...and see how we feel about it? Aw... That trick NEVER works... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/31/06 8:19:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, babajii_99@ writes: Enlightened leadership is the only way out. But if the leadership is only a reflection of the collective consciousness, then you've got a real problem. In order to have enlightened leadership, you're going to have to have an enlightened society first. Huh, that's a good point! I've never heard that raised before. It seems so obvious now that you mention it. Self-evident? haha I don't think I said self-evident. I think I said obvious. While I like the notion of leadership is only a reflection of the collective consciousness, in newly energized Kurtzian sensibilities, thats an idea, perhaps someday testable -- though that would be a challenge -- but it is neither fact nor a good theory that can make valid predictions. Is it true? How do you know it would be true? Er, did you read what I was commenting on? Did you actually read my comment? I was referring to what MDixon pointed out, that the TMO concepts of enlightened leadership, on the one hand, and leadership that reflects the consciousness of the people, on the other hand, don't seem to mesh very well. In other words, they can't both be true. Certainly, an enlightened candidate probably can't get elected in this country. OTOH, there are plenty of wealthy/influential people who run the country *behind the scenes* whose consciousness can be at least somewhat independent of the consciousness of the government. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] ANNOUNCING: FairfieldLife Civility Day
Is FairfieldLife Civility Day just for alt people, or can the rest of us play, too? --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: June 1st is FairfieldLife Civility Day. That means that for just this one 24-hour period EVERYONE -- including Judy Stein, Barry Wright, and, yes, myself, Shemp -- will debate, discourse, and exchange words with everyone else in a civil manner. NO NAME CALLING NO PROFANITY POSITIVE, APPRECIATIVE WORDS FOR OPPOSING VIEWS Should we give it a try...just for this one day...and see how we feel about it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
In a message dated 5/31/06 4:46:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unless you can enlighten the leadership directly, fast enough that they don't get thrown out of office before they can have an enlightening effect on everyone else by virtue of their mundane influence. You may have missed the point. I remember M saying once that even if one of his closest devotees became president or a leader in Washington, the collective consciousness would be so great and powerful that even he, M,wouldn't have much influence on him and find it difficult to do what M said. In other words the collective consciousness has a powerful influence on the individual politician's awareness regardless of how pure it may be.But I do agree with you that even if a person was enlightened and by some quirk was elected, he/sheprobably wouldn't last long. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'War- What Is It Good For?'
In a message dated 5/31/06 4:47:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sometimes, if a single leaf of a plant is important enough, addressing that single leaf WILL have an important enough influence on the rest of the plant that a wise gardener will attend to it directly. If a plant is left with only a single leaf, best cut it back and feed and water. Start all over again To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: ANNOUNCING: FairfieldLife Civility Day
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/31/06 1:12:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: June 1st is FairfieldLife Civility Day. That means that for just this one 24-hour period EVERYONE -- including Judy Stein, Barry Wright, and, yes, myself, Shemp -- will debate, discourse, and exchange words with everyone else in a civil manner. NO NAME CALLING NO PROFANITY POSITIVE, APPRECIATIVE WORDS FOR OPPOSING VIEWS Should we give it a try...just for this one day...and see how we feel about it? Why? hehehehe To see if we can be better human beings. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: ANNOUNCING: FairfieldLife Civility Day
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is FairfieldLife Civility Day just for alt people, or can the rest of us play, too? All and everyone can play. And the person deemed most civil gets that 2006 Corvette Stingray that Rick didn't give for the 100,000th posting. --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: June 1st is FairfieldLife Civility Day. That means that for just this one 24-hour period EVERYONE -- including Judy Stein, Barry Wright, and, yes, myself, Shemp -- will debate, discourse, and exchange words with everyone else in a civil manner. NO NAME CALLING NO PROFANITY POSITIVE, APPRECIATIVE WORDS FOR OPPOSING VIEWS Should we give it a try...just for this one day...and see how we feel about it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --- -~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Updates on the Kaplans
I have heard that the homeowners are able to sell their SV homes, and at a profit. The developer is well known and has a good track record. So, people are eager to buy into his projects. The SV homes iinclude access to the whole clubhouse community that is part of the newly built homes and lots as well. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/31/06 3:47 PM, steveemming at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody have the latest info on Earl and David Kaplan's situation with the Heavenly Mountain/Mother Divine and the TM movement? Thank you in advance. As far as I know, the lawsuits are finished, the place is sold, Purusha and MD are out of there, and Kaplans have moved on to other spiritual and temporal pursuits. Only remnants are some 'Ru homeowners who undoubtedly are trying to sell their homes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: [NESARA INTERNATIONAL Attempt to arrest Tony Blair
Note: forwarded message attached. Be a chatter box. Enjoy free PC-to-PC calls with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---BeginMessage--- Feds: 3 dead as U.S., French agents seized British evidence in covered up Capitol Hill gunfight Police, media silence sought as Bush officials turned Rayburn parking garage into temporary auto-body shop by Tom Flocco WashingtonMay 31, 2006TomFlocco.comBush administration officials operated Memorial Day weekend damage control to cover up the deaths of three foreign intelligence operativestwo British and one Frenchinvolved in a Friday morning shootout in the House of Representatives parking garage. The altercation turned into an exchange of automatic weapons fire over a pouch containing evidence files documenting an operation to bomb the rail system along the Northeast corridor on Thursdaywith the full knowledge of George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair who was in Washington while the operation was being hatched. Teams of U.S.-French alliance (AFA) operativesincluding CIA, NSA and FBI agents committed to holding the Bush administration accountable for criminal activitieshad been electronically monitoring a British agent who they determined to be the leader of a black ops bombing plot planned for the purpose of disrupting northeast rail traffic via a fake terrorist attack. Federal agents revealed that a taxi cab left the Rayburn building parking garage with three body bags just after the shootout which was covered up by Capitol Hill police on instructions from Bush officials who were in contact with television executives and House/Senate leaders. The agents had followed the British operative into the Rayburn parking garage where the shootout occurred according to longtime federal whistleblower Stewart Webb and intelligence authority Thomas Heneghan both of whom confirmed the whole incident via several of Webbs 22-years worth of inside federal sources with further corroboration by several more U.S and French intelligence agents to whom Heneghan spoke. Evidence files proving the bombing operation were seized after an Israeli intelligence agent had reportedly tipped off the Brit who was being pursued by AFA agents which resulted in several House and staff members experiencing shot-out automobile windshields and doors sprayed with bullet holes in the ensuing weapons exchange, the two told TomFlocco.com. Heneghan told us this evening that hundreds of shots were fired from the automatic weapons during the gunfight causing reasonably extensive damage, and that one female House staffer fainted in the hall after encountering one of the agents being sought by Capitol police during the Rayburn lockdown. Formal protests and reports were exchanged by the British and French governments while Mr. Bush was provided with the full reports of the incident now classified under arcane U.S. intelligence regulations to further sequester the evidence from the American people. Washington news outlets are reportedly being discouraged from filing Freedom of Information Act lawsuits to acquire the evidence and reports. Webb was speaking to an intelligence source within a half hour after the shootout on Friday morning just as we called to find out if he had heard that the Rayburn parking garage and Capitol complex were being temporarily sealed off to keep tourists, House members and staffers away from the scene and evidence of damaged vehicles, concrete walls and pillars. Capitol police told the media that the gunfight sounds were caused by apparent construction equipment which may have sounded like shots being fired in the parking garage, but no reports indicate the nature of the construction scheduled for that day at the Rayburn building and for what purpose, but also why the police launched a four-hour Rayburn lockdown and floor-by-floor search of the largest office structure on Capitol Hill. According to U.S. intelligence agents close to the incident, the media fell for the Bush-ordered Capitol police damage control lock, stock and barrel. Federal agents had planned to arrest Tony Blair We were told that French and U.S. agents are familiar enough with the Rayburn building that they were able to leave inconspicuously and without notice after seizing the evidence; however, the Israeli agent who tipped off the British agent with the evidence was the subject being sought during the Rayburn
[FairfieldLife] Re: A possible solution to our growing antibiotic problem
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eat Me The Soviet method for attacking infection that we can learn from. By Daria Vaisman Posted Tuesday, May 30, 2006, at 12:41 PM ET +++ Hi Shemp, Interesting article- Did you ever look into grapefruit seed extract or, citruscidal(sp)? This stuff is said to eliminate known harmfull bacteria with no side effects. A health food store item- around twelve dollars for a month supply. N. Illustration of a bacteriophage In the 1920s and '30s, with diseases like dysentery and cholera running rampant, the discovery of bacteriophages was hailed as a breakthrough. Bacteriophages are viruses found virtually everywhere from soil to seawater to your intestinesthat kill specific, infection-causing bacteria. In the United States, the drug company Eli Lilly marketed phages for abscesses and respiratory infections. (Sinclair Lewis' Pulitzer-winning Arrowsmith is about a doctor who uses phages to prevent a diphtheria epidemic.) But by the 1940s, American scientists stopped working with phages for treatment because they no longer had reason to. Penicillin, discovered by the Scottish bacteriologist Alexander Fleming in 1928, had become widely available thanks to synthetic production and zapped infections without the expertise needed for finicky phages. But now the equation has changed. Many kinds of bacteria have become antibiotic-resistantprompting a few Western scientists, and patients, to travel to former Soviet Georgia to give bacteriophages for treatment a try. Phages have been used in the former Soviet Union for decades because scientists there had less access to antibiotics than their American and European counterparts did. Phages were a cheap alternative, and in Soviet clinical trials, they repeatedly stopped infections. Now in a bid for medical tourists, Georgia has opened a center in its capital, Tbilisi, which offers outpatient phage treatment to foreigners. In connection with the Eliava phage research institute, which Stalin helped set up in Tbilisi in 1923, the treatment center offers personalized cures for a host of infections the United States says it can no longer do anything about. In 2000, the Centers for Disease Control, along with other federal agencies, warned that the world might soon return to a pre- antibiotic era. Two million people each year now get hospital-borne bacterial infections, 1.4 million of them resistant to antibiotics and 90,000 of them lethal. One example is sepsis, the infection that killed Joan Didion's daughter, as Didion relates in The Year of Magical Thinking. New antibiotics are being discovered. But it takes 10 years and at least $800 million to bring an antibiotic to market, according to the Infectious Diseases Society of America. The big advantage that phages offer over antibiotics is that bacterial resistance is less of a problem. Unlike antibiotics, new phage batches can quickly be whipped up to take the place of phages to which bacteria become resistant. The word phage comes from the Greek to eat. A phage contains genetic material that gets injected into a virus's host. Whereas bad viruses infect healthy cells, phages target specific bacteria that then explode. At Eliava, phages are produced as a liquid that can be drunk or injected intravenously, as pills, or as phage-containing patches for wounds. Though few published articles in Western journals report positive clinical trialsmost of the recent long-term research on phages comes out of the Soviet Union some Western scientists say that phages are safe and that they work. There is no evidence that phage is harmful in any way, says Nick Mann, a biology professor at the University of Warwick in England and co-director of phage RD company Novolytics. So, why do American patients need to go to all the way to Georgia for treatment? For starters, in their natural state phages are hard to patent, the route by which drug companies lock up future profits. The first company to spend millions of dollars to prove that a particular phage is safe could allow its competitors to capitalize on the results. As important is the difficulty of regulation. There are two ways that phages are currently used in the former Soviet Union, and both pose problems from the point of view of the Food and Drug Administration. At the Tbilisi phage center, phages are personalized: You send your bacterial sample to the lab, and it's either matched up with an existing phage or a phage is cultured just for you. In the United States, by contrast, drugs are mass produced, which makes it easier for the FDA to regulate them. Phages are also sold over-the-counter in Georgia. People take the popular mixture piobacteriophage, for example, to fight off common infections including staph and strep. These phage mixtures are
[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
Some recerts are still being paid if they teach enough people. They also must do a 3 hr program morning AND evening. And MMY does not want recerts teaching (or being paid) unless they live in proper vastu. Lots of requirements when you add it all up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well it obviously wasn't that kind of guarantee, Barry. The guarantee part was that they were guaranteed to have any number of idiots who would still fall for a line like that. :) They were right. Sal On May 31, 2006, at 11:54 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Don't forget that it originally required quitting your job and promising to teach fulltime For a guaranteed salary for life that turned out to be a lie within two or three months. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some recerts are still being paid if they teach enough people. They also must do a 3 hr program morning AND evening. And MMY does not want recerts teaching (or being paid) unless they live in proper vastu. Lots of requirements when you add it all up. That leaves - what 2 or 3 recerts? Just leave it at Maharishi does not want recerts teaching... that covers it. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] heavy metals implicated in autism
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], purushaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New Scientist, May 27, 2006, p. 21: Urine samples from hundreds of French children have yielded evidence for a link between autism and exposure to heavy metals. If validated, the findings might mean some cases of autism could be treated with drugs that purge the body of heavy metals. [Dr. Richard Lathe of Pieta Research in Edinburgh, UK, says]: It's highly likely that heavy metals are responsible for childhood autistic disorders in a majority of cases. --- End forwarded message --- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: Some recerts are still being paid if they teach enough people. They also must do a 3 hr program morning AND evening. And MMY does not want recerts teaching (or being paid) unless they live in proper vastu. Lots of requirements when you add it all up. That leaves - what 2 or 3 recerts? Just leave it at Maharishi does not want recerts teaching... that covers it. JohnY Proper vastu meaning... They live in a house or appartment facing east, that is sufficiently far from mountains and bodies of water. Not TOO difficult to attain, most places other than New Orleans... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: Some recerts are still being paid if they teach enough people. They also must do a 3 hr program morning AND evening. And MMY does not want recerts teaching (or being paid) unless they live in proper vastu. Lots of requirements when you add it all up. That leaves - what 2 or 3 recerts? Just leave it at Maharishi does not want recerts teaching... that covers it. JohnY Proper vastu meaning... They live in a house or appartment facing east, that is sufficiently far from mountains and bodies of water. Not TOO difficult to attain, most places other than New Orleans... OK - let the stampeed begin then... what, $2500 - where's that grant form again? JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
