[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What a wonderful story, thanks for sharing it! It speaks volumes to  
> your integrity that you have not cordoned off parts of your past but  
> bring them so nicely into the present. Very open minded and whole.

Kind of like having no fences, as opposed to surrounding
oneself with barbed wire and the expectation that anyone
who approaches it is an enemy. Can you imagine a couple
of the TM apologists here actually having a good time at 
a party of people who are no longer part of the TMO? 
They'd be on their guard every moment, waiting for the
offhand remark they could interpret as an attack.

For that matter, can anyone imagine these people having
fun at a party of any kind?








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[FairfieldLife] Re: "Vaneela" ice cream

2006-07-27 Thread shempmcgurk
The heat from global warming should neutralize the cold of the 
genetically-modified ice cream.

See?  It all works out in the end...



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> " The other new method for making supercreamy ice cream was caught 
> up last month in the global debate over genetically modified 
foods. 
> In June, Unilever, the Anglo-Dutch conglomerate, applied to 
> Britain's Food Standards Agency for permission to use a new 
> ingredient in its frozen desserts — a protein cloned from the 
blood 
> of an eel-like Arctic Ocean fish, the ocean pout. 
> 
> Instead of extracting the protein from the fish, which Unilever 
> describes as "not sustainable or economically feasible" in its 
> application, the company developed a process for making it, by 
> altering the genetic structure of a strain of baker's yeast so 
that 
> it produces the protein during fermentation. 
> 
> This ingredient, called an ice-structuring protein, has been 
> approved by the Food and Drug Administration and is used by 
Unilever 
> to make some products in the United States, like some Popsicles 
and 
> a new line of Breyers Light Double Churned ice cream bars. 
> 
> "Ice-structuring proteins protect the fish, which would otherwise 
> die in freezing temperatures," said H. Douglas Goff, professor of 
> dairy sciences at the University of Guelph in Ontario. "They also 
> make ice cream creamier, by preventing ice crystals from growing." 
> 
> In Britain, where Unilever's Cornetto cone is as iconic as the 
> Fudgsicle is in the United States, the news media have leapt in 
with 
> headlines about "vaneela" ice cream. 
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/26/dining/26cream.html
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Recording the Beatles

2006-07-27 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > http://recordingthebeatles.com/
> > 
> 
> Defunct??
>

Naah...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Recording the Beatles

2006-07-27 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://recordingthebeatles.com/
> 

Defunct??






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[FairfieldLife] "Vaneela" ice cream

2006-07-27 Thread bob_brigante
" The other new method for making supercreamy ice cream was caught 
up last month in the global debate over genetically modified foods. 
In June, Unilever, the Anglo-Dutch conglomerate, applied to 
Britain's Food Standards Agency for permission to use a new 
ingredient in its frozen desserts — a protein cloned from the blood 
of an eel-like Arctic Ocean fish, the ocean pout. 

Instead of extracting the protein from the fish, which Unilever 
describes as "not sustainable or economically feasible" in its 
application, the company developed a process for making it, by 
altering the genetic structure of a strain of baker's yeast so that 
it produces the protein during fermentation. 

This ingredient, called an ice-structuring protein, has been 
approved by the Food and Drug Administration and is used by Unilever 
to make some products in the United States, like some Popsicles and 
a new line of Breyers Light Double Churned ice cream bars. 

"Ice-structuring proteins protect the fish, which would otherwise 
die in freezing temperatures," said H. Douglas Goff, professor of 
dairy sciences at the University of Guelph in Ontario. "They also 
make ice cream creamier, by preventing ice crystals from growing." 

In Britain, where Unilever's Cornetto cone is as iconic as the 
Fudgsicle is in the United States, the news media have leapt in with 
headlines about "vaneela" ice cream. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/26/dining/26cream.html






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lebanon, MMY, TMO and Fairfield Life..

2006-07-27 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Have not had time to check postings here but need to express my 
> alarm and concern at what is happening over there and how EASILY 
it 
> could escalate and bring a Baghdad-like scenario to many areas of 
> the world. Several years ago, when still a "believer" of MMY & the 
> yogic flying social effect, I highlighted the need to concentrate 
> Movement resources on certain key projects - my priority was 
> establishing a permanent "invincibility" group in Lebanon or 
Israel. 
> This area was the open wound in the world where most of the 
threats 
> to world peace emmaneted from. Given that Raja Ram was himself 
> Lebanese I thought naively that MMY would be persuaded to focus 
> resources in this region - and given the population sizes involved 
> it seemed a very feasible objective. I wonder now whether all this 
> talk of invincibility is just a pipedream anyway, but if it isn't 
> what a trajedy, what short-sightedness, blindness, STUPIDITY we 
have 
> witnessed from the TMO in its dealings with this region. There are 
> about 7 million Israelis - a group of 250 would have been 
sufficient 
> to shepherd the country's tendencies towards less belligerent 
lines -
> and would have avoided the chaos for the world that now is being 
> unleashed. Instead we have had 50 years languishing in the 
> wilderness of indecision, chasing hopeless mirages and getting 
> precisely NOWHERE in realising the potentialities of this 
knowledge. 
> Yet again a TMO project - now invincible Holland - turns out to be 
> too little too late and in the wrong geographic orientation 
anyway. 
> What were those astrologers advising MMY doing anyway, not seeing 
> danger signs on the horizon which anyone with common sense could 
> easily have forseen. MMY and the TMO made a big deal about their 
> ideas being reported in the Jerusalem Post recently but we all 
know  
> this really amounts to a complete FAILURE of vision and 
leadership. 
> I do hope there are people in this forum that share my 
> disappointment. It will be my last posting otherwise

Of course I agree with you. As far as I remember Israel had 1 % 
meditators some years ago - so the "Maharishi-effect" should have 
been there. I have my doubts about the "Maharishi-effect" - and  
referring to the Kaplans letter MMY has doubts too.  
Ingegerd
>







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[FairfieldLife] Pork and power

2006-07-27 Thread bob_brigante
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/28/world/europe/28germany.html





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[FairfieldLife] Re: UN observer: Hizbullah using us as shields

2006-07-27 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "larry.potter" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> UN observer: Hizbullah using us as shields
> 
> Six days before his death in IAF bombing, Canadian observer Major 
> Paeta Hess-von Kruedener sends email to his former commander, says 
> Hizbullah operating near UN post in southern Lebanon. His 
commander 
> reveals he said IDF strike aimed at hitting terrorists, not 
foreign 
> observers. His wife Cynthia, however, accuses Israel of 
> intentionally bombing post 
> 
> Six days before he was killed in an Israel Air Force bombing of a 
> United Nations post in southern Lebanon, Canadian observer Major 
> Paeta Hess-von Kruendener sent an email to his former commander in 
> the Canadian army, in which he said that Hizbullah fighters 
> were "running around" near the UN post struck by the Israel 
Defense 
> Forces and that they were using the post as a sort of "shield" 
> against Israel's strikes.
> 
> The former commander, Major-General Lewis MacKenzie, who served as 
a 
> UN commander in Bosnia, spoke about the email in a Canadian radio 
> show. He said that Hess-von Kruendener wrote that the IDF strikes 
> near the post had "not been deliberate targeting, but rather due 
to 
> tactical necessity." 
> 
> "That would mean Hizbullah was purposely setting up near the UN 
> post," he added. "It's a tactic."
> 
> Hess-von Kruendener even sent an email to the Canadian television 
> network CTV a few days before his death, in which he spoke about 
the 
> IDF's bombardments near his UN post and said that he feared for 
his 
> life. 
> 

**

on so-called "hiding among civilians," generally:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/07/28/hezbollah/index_np.html

on the lie that Israel did not deliberately target the UN:

http://tinyurl.com/qf9ap

BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) -- The U.N. observers killed when an Israeli 
bomb hit their bunker in Lebanon Tuesday called an Israeli military 
liaison about 10 times in the six hours before they died to warn 
that aerial attacks were getting close to their position, a U.N. 
officer said.

After each call, the Israeli officer promised to have the bombing 
stopped, an officer at the U.N. Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) 
base in Noqoura said.

Finally, an Israeli bomb exploded directly on the U.N. post near 
Khiyam, killing four U.N. observers from Austria, Finland, Canada 
and China, the U.N. officer said.






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[FairfieldLife] Foods highest in antioxidants

2006-07-27 Thread new . morning
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Foods_highest_in_antioxidants.jpg





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[FairfieldLife] Fairfield artist John Preston

2006-07-27 Thread bob_brigante
http://tinyurl.com/foy8t





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Recording the Beatles

2006-07-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Nice.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> http://recordingthebeatles.com/
> 
> Wow. Everything you ever wanted to know.
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hey! Watch that appropriating my name for your 
> > theory stuff! You're getting into tricky legal
> > and ethical territory...doncha remember how Carl 
> > Sagan went ballistic when Apple named one of their 
> > projects after him? He threatened to sue. 
> 
> That should have been 'code-named' one of their
> projects after him. The code name is an internal-
> to-the-company thing, so most folks at Apple were
> surprised at his reaction and, as I heard it, 
> changed the offending code name immediately, to BHA.
> 
> Speculation that this acronym stood for Butt Hole
> Astronomer was neither confirmed or denied by
> Apple management.
>

He sued about THAT too, and the judge ruled that there wasn't sufficient 
semantic content 
of the term in the context of his professional life for him to prove damages.








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[FairfieldLife] Recording the Beatles

2006-07-27 Thread Vaj
http://recordingthebeatles.com/

Wow. Everything you ever wanted to know.


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[FairfieldLife] Satvic wave misses Seattle?

2006-07-27 Thread off_world_beings
WPA satwa misses Seattle?

http://tinyurl.com/gldl6






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[FairfieldLife] UN observer: Hizbullah using us as shields

2006-07-27 Thread larry.potter
UN observer: Hizbullah using us as shields

Six days before his death in IAF bombing, Canadian observer Major 
Paeta Hess-von Kruedener sends email to his former commander, says 
Hizbullah operating near UN post in southern Lebanon. His commander 
reveals he said IDF strike aimed at hitting terrorists, not foreign 
observers. His wife Cynthia, however, accuses Israel of 
intentionally bombing post 

Six days before he was killed in an Israel Air Force bombing of a 
United Nations post in southern Lebanon, Canadian observer Major 
Paeta Hess-von Kruendener sent an email to his former commander in 
the Canadian army, in which he said that Hizbullah fighters 
were "running around" near the UN post struck by the Israel Defense 
Forces and that they were using the post as a sort of "shield" 
against Israel's strikes.

The former commander, Major-General Lewis MacKenzie, who served as a 
UN commander in Bosnia, spoke about the email in a Canadian radio 
show. He said that Hess-von Kruendener wrote that the IDF strikes 
near the post had "not been deliberate targeting, but rather due to 
tactical necessity." 

"That would mean Hizbullah was purposely setting up near the UN 
post," he added. "It's a tactic."

Hess-von Kruendener even sent an email to the Canadian television 
network CTV a few days before his death, in which he spoke about the 
IDF's bombardments near his UN post and said that he feared for his 
life. 


UNIFIL Strike 
 
Security Council fails to condemn Israel  / AFP 
  ... 
He sought to provide the public in his country with a "Canadian 
outlook" on the war in Lebanon from a post of the United Nations 
Interim Force in Lebanon, at a distance of 10 kilometers (6.21 
miles) from the country's border with Israel. 

In an email sent six days before he was killed, Hess-von Kruendener 
wrote that he felt he was in great danger. 

"What I can tell you is this. We have on a daily basis had numerous 
occasions where our position has come under direct or indirect fire 
from both artillery and aerial bombing. The closest artillery has 
landed within 2 meters (6.562 feet) of our position and the closest 
1000 lb aerial bomb has landed 100 meters (328.1 feet) from our 
patrol base," he said.

 
The Canadian soldier tried to describe his experiences as an unarmed 
soldier who is nonetheless in the line of fire. 

The UN post, he wrote, provided a view of the "Hizbullah static 
positions in and around our patrol Base."

"It appears that the lion's share of fighting between the IDF and 
Hizbullah has taken place in our area," he wrote, adding that it was 
too dangerous to venture out on patrols.

Hess-von Kruendener, whose last letters were quoted in many Canadian 
and global media outlets, was stationed at a UNIFIL post in southern 
Lebanon for nine months. He served as a Canadian Forces infantry 
officer for 20 years and was previously stationed in Cyprus, Congo 
and Kosovo. 
..
(07.28.06, 03:26)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's Middle East Meltdown.

2006-07-27 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think the plan is to stand back and let the Muslim and Jewish 
> fundamentalists destroy each other as that will take [care] of a 
lot of 
> problems in the Middle East.
>



What the U.S. did when Iraq and Iran were fighting each other 1980-
88, the U.S. gave support as needed to both sides in order to 
prolong the fighting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_War

At first, the U.S. supported Iraq:

"Starting in 1982 with Iranian success on the battlefield, the U.S. 
made its backing of Iraq more pronounced, supplying it with 
intelligence, economic aid, normalizing relations with the 
government (broken during the 1967 Six-Day War), and also supplying 
weapons [6]. President Ronald Reagan decided that the United 
States "could not afford to allow Iraq to lose the war to Iran", and 
that the United States "would do whatever was necessary and legal to 
prevent Iraq from losing the war with Iran."[7] President Reagan 
formalized this policy by issuing a National Security Decision 
Directive ("NSDD") to this effect in June, 1982.[8]

***

But then, the U.S. also armed Iran:

"Iran acquired weapons and parts for its Shah-era U.S. systems 
through covert arms transactions from officials in the Reagan 
Administration, first indirectly through Israel and then directly. 
It was hoped Iran would, in exchange, persuade several radical 
groups to release Western hostages, though this did not result; 
proceeds from the sales were diverted to the Nicaraguan Contras in 
what became known as the Iran-Contra Affair.

In fact according to the report of the U.S. Congressional Committees 
Investigating the Iran-Contra Affair issued in November of 
1987, "the sale of U.S. arms to Iran through Israel began in the 
summer of 1985, after receiving the approval of President Reagan." 
[16] These sales included "2,008 BGM-71 TOW anti-Tank missiles and 
235 parts kits for MIM-23 Hawk surface-to-air missiles had been sent 
to Iran via Israel." Further shipments of up to US$2 billion of 
American weapons from Israel to Iran consisting of 18 F-4 fighter-
bombers, 46 A-4 Skyhawk fighter-bombers, and nearly 4,000 missiles 
were foiled by the U.S. Department of Justice, and "unverified 
reports alleged that Israel agreed to sell Iran Sidewinder air-to-
air missiles, radar equipment, mortar and machinegun ammunition, 
field telephones, M-60 tank engines and artillery shells, and spare 
parts for C-130 transport planes."[17] The London Observer also 
estimated that Israel's arms sales to Iran during the war totalled 
US$ 500 million annually [18], and Time Magazine reported that 
throughout 1981 and 1982, "the Israelis reportedly set up Swiss bank 
accounts to handle the financial end of the deals."[19] For more on 
Israeli Hawk missile sales to Iran see [20].
 
***

However, the situation is different when Israel is involved as many 
of the neocons in the current administration are all-out supporters 
of Israel and certainly would not countenance policies that were 
deliberately intended to damage Israel, although the stupidity of 
the policies does have that effect in the long run by further 
antagonizing the Arab/Muslim world.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Lebanon, MMY, TMO and Fairfield Life..

2006-07-27 Thread Peter


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  
> In a message dated 7/27/06 1:41:13 P.M. Central
> Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Have not had time to check postings here but need to
> express my 
> alarm  and concern at what is happening over there
> and how EASILY it 
> could  escalate and bring a Baghdad-like scenario to
> many areas of 
> the world.  Several years ago, when still a
> "believer" of MMY & the 
> yogic flying  social effect, I highlighted the need
> to concentrate 
> Movement resources on  certain key projects - my
> priority was 
> establishing a permanent  "invincibility" group in
> Lebanon or Israel. 
> This area was the open wound  in the world where
> most of the threats 
> to world peace emmaneted from.  Given that Raja Ram
> was himself 
> Lebanese I thought naively that MMY would  be
> persuaded to focus 
> resources in this region - and given the population 
> sizes involved 
> it seemed a very feasible objective. I wonder now
> whether  all this 
> talk of invincibility is just a pipedream anyway,
> but if it isn't  
> what a trajedy, what short-sightedness, blindness,
> STUPIDITY we have  
> witnessed from the TMO in its dealings with this
> region. There are  
> about 7 million Israelis - a group of 250 would have
> been sufficient  
> to shepherd the country's tendencies towards less
> belligerent lines  -
> and would have avoided the chaos for the world that
> now is being  
> unleashed. Instead we have had 50 years languishing
> in the 
> wilderness  of indecision, chasing hopeless mirages
> and getting 
> precisely NOWHERE in  realising the potentialities
> of this knowledge. 
> Yet again a TMO project -  now invincible Holland -
> turns out to be 
> too little too late and in the  wrong geographic
> orientation anyway. 
> What were those astrologers advising  MMY doing
> anyway, not seeing 
> danger signs on the horizon which anyone with 
> common sense could 
> easily have forseen. MMY and the TMO made a big deal
>  about their 
> ideas being reported in the Jerusalem Post recently
> but we all  know 
> this really amounts to a complete FAILURE of vision
> and leadership.  
> I do hope there are people in this forum that share
> my 
> disappointment.  It will be my last posting 
> otherwise...d
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I pretty much agree here. Seeing as how the conflict
> in Israel seems to be  
> the source of much of what is going on in the world
> in terms of violence, why  
> hasn't M set up a group in Israel a long time ago.
> Fear it won't work or maybe 
>  fear for the safety of the sidhas is the only
> reason I can imagine. If it 
> does  work there should be no fear for the safety of
> a group of sidhas. What 
> would it  cost to rotate in a thousand sidhas on a
> regular basis to the area 
> especially if  there was a course fee? And if they
> could prove it worked beyond a 
> reasonable  doubt, somebody could be convinced to
> finance it  indefinately.

The problem is that the ME is not very robust, to say
the least. I believe 2000 jivan muktas transcending
together might produce a more robust ME, but your
typical near horizontal program, snoring ru is very
far from the ideal subject for such a test. 
p.s. The stock market went down today.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Mind of a Mystic

2006-07-27 Thread Vaj


On Jul 27, 2006, at 7:10 PM, Bhairitu wrote:TM aside there are other meditation programs that provide these kind of  techniques.  The tantric instruction I've had is probably not that much  different from this guy's.  And it is extended meditation.   I know that  similar techniques were taught by other gurus here in the west.  But no,  they are not "garden variety" or what we call "yogic meditation"  meditation which is for the masses. Well I'd definitely agree with that.
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[FairfieldLife] Recuiting Slogans for Course

2006-07-27 Thread new . morning
It just occured to me, a bit tongue in cheek, John could use some
variatons of ME^3 for recruiting. 

2000 ME = ME^2

Or,

ME^3 = ME, ME for ME = You!, ME for ME ( as in  "Uncle Sam Wants You"!
--as in famous recruiting poster) can create Maharish Effect in the
Middle East.

Or,
perhaps ME refers to the "you" in the Smokey the Bear campaign, "Only
you can Prevent 'Forest Fires'" in the Middle East via the Maharishi
Effect

OR (for the geekier),
(1%*WE)^.5 = ME^2  
The square root of 1% of population = ME in ME.















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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread Vaj


On Jul 27, 2006, at 3:49 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:The tape account is different.  It was in the first announcement for his first lectures so he didn't have any students.  They reported a lecture given by a great Maharishi from the Himalayas.  As MMY tells it, the lectures were set up by a pushy guy at the temple, it was not his idea.   One wonders--since there must have been some forward advance knowledge of the lecture--if he had put forth the idea of "a great Maharishi from the Himalayas".Either way, you'd have to be pretty damn narcissistic to just take that name up *even if someone did somehow assume that*.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread new . morning
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>
> War deaths?
> Death by Accident?
> Peace deals?

I should clarify. It is to track tyhe effects cited by John Hagelin in
his july 26 press release. As it turns out, the effects John cites are
currently incorrect for oil and gold, and a bit iffy for stocks. 

Clearly there are more important indicators -- the ones that the
course is intended to yield in the middle east, including those you
list. They should be monitored. I am not in a position to do so. 

http://2006-course-effects.blogspot.com/

And studying the effects of one course (1-2 weeks ?) is quite limited. 
As stated on the blog, [this is an} exploratory analysis of Maharishi
/ Coherence Effects from 2006 Summer US Course. This is a weak test in
that it provides of only one "dose/intervention" and thus will not
result conclusive findings. But it may provide insight for more
comprehensive studies examining 10-20+ dose/interventions across
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
These blues festivals have so much soul and r&b these days I didn't
even want to go the other days.  But John is playing acoustic twice on
Sunday so I will be there!   I have seen him live a few times since he
is one of my top heroes today. Really committed to the solo acoustic
blues.


The sea?  Sounds great.  Nature weekends rock!


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> On Jul 27, 2006, at 7:04 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> 
> > I am going up specifically to see John Hammond playing at a ski resort
> > ourdoor blues festival in the Poconos.  I am staying in a nice cabin
> > by a lake.  I will definitely bring some guitars.  Have a great
> > weekend yourself.
> 
> 
> Never seen him live myself, but love his music. Off to sea myself,  
> hopefully storm free!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread Vaj


On Jul 27, 2006, at 7:04 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:I am going up specifically to see John Hammond playing at a ski resort ourdoor blues festival in the Poconos.  I am staying in a nice cabin by a lake.  I will definitely bring some guitars.  Have a great weekend yourself. Never seen him live myself, but love his music. Off to sea myself, hopefully storm free!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] People who ate a low-fat vegan diet

2006-07-27 Thread Bhairitu
suziezuzie wrote:

>By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent 
>Thu Jul 27, 2:34 PM ET
> 
>
>
>WASHINGTON (Reuters) - People who ate a low-fat vegan diet, cutting 
>out all meat and dairy, lowered their blood sugar more and lost more 
>weight than people on a standard American Diabetes Association diet, 
>researchers said on Thursday. 
>
>  
>  Beyonce
>Christina Aguilera
>Keyshia Cole
>Christina Milian 
>Janet Jackson Mariah Carey   
>  
> 
>They lowered their cholesterol more and ended up with better kidney 
>function, according to the report published in Diabetes Care, a 
>journal published by the American Diabetes Association.
>
>Participants said the vegan diet was easier to follow than most 
>because they did not measure portions or count calories. Three of 
>the vegan dieters dropped out of the study, compared to eight on the 
>standard diet.
>
>"I hope this study will rekindle interest in using diet changes 
>first, rather than prescription drugs," Dr. Neal Barnard, president 
>of the Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine, which helped 
>conduct the study, told a news conference.
>
>An estimated 18 million Americans have type-2 diabetes, which 
>results from a combination of genetics and poor eating and exercise 
>habits. They run a high risk of heart disease, stroke, kidney 
>failure, blindness and limb loss.
>
>Barnard's team and colleagues at George Washington University, the 
>University of Toronto and the University of North Carolina tested 99 
>people with type-2 diabetes, assigning them randomly to either a low-
>fat, low-sugar vegan diet or the standard American Diabetes 
>Association diet.
>
>After 22 weeks on the diet, 43 percent of those on the vegan diet 
>and 26 percent of those on the standard diet were either able to 
>stop taking some of their drugs such as insulin or glucose-control 
>medications, or lowered the doses.
>
>The vegan dieters lost 14 pounds (6.5 kg) on average while the 
>diabetes association dieters lost 6.8 pounds (3.1 kg).
>
>An important level of glucose control called a1c fell by 1.23 points 
>in the vegan group and by 0.38 in the group on the standard diet.
>
>DROPPING DRUGS
>
>A1c gives a measure of how well-controlled blood sugar has been over 
>the preceding three months.
>
>In the dieters who did not change whatever cholesterol drugs they 
>were on during the study, LDL or "bad" cholesterol fell by 21 
>percent in the vegan group and 10 percent in the standard diet group.
>
>The vegan diet removed all animal products, including meat, fish and 
>dairy. It was also low in added fat and in sugar.
>
>The American Diabetes Association diet is more tailored, taking into 
>account the patient's weight and cholesterol. Most patients on this 
>diet cut calories significantly, and were told to eat sugary and 
>starchy foods in moderation.
>
>All 99 participants met weekly with advisers, who advised them on 
>recipes, gave them tips for sticking to their respective diets, and 
>offered encouragement.
>
>"We have got a combination here that works successfully," said Dr. 
>David Jenkins of the University of Toronto, who worked on the 
>study. "The message that we so often get with diet is that it is no 
>good because nobody follows it for very long."
>
>Dr. Joshua Cohen, George Washington University associate professor 
>of medicine, said everyone diagnosed with diabetes is told to start 
>eating more carefully.
>
>"That may be among the hardest things that any of us can do," Cohen 
>told the news conference. 
>
>The vegan diet "is at least as good, if not better than traditional 
>approaches," Cohen said. 
>
>Vance Warren, a 36-year-old retired police officer living in 
>Washington, said he lowered his a1c from 10.4, considered 
>uncontrolled diabetes, to 5.1, considered a healthy level, over 18 
>months. "My life is much better being 74 pounds (34 kg) lighter," 
>Warren told the news conference.   
>
This is nothing new in ayurvedic circles where you usually use 
anti-kapha diets for these problems.  But I guess western medicine feels 
it has to "discover" things even though they were discovered centuries 
ago.  Sigh.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's Middle East Meltdown.

2006-07-27 Thread Bhairitu
off_world_beings wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
>  
>
>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>With the Iraqi PM pressing for more US troops to come to Iraq to 
>>>stabalize the mess Bush has made there, and with the Israelis, 
>>>  
>>>
>who 
>  
>
>>>have now said they invaded Lebanon with the intention of having 
>>>  
>>>
>>the 
>>
>>
>>>international community set up a military protected 
>>>  
>>>
>international 
>  
>
>>>zone there. And with UN troops fighting more Taliban in 
>>>  
>>>
>>Afghanistan 
>>
>>
>>>now.
>>>
>>>If Israel loses in Beirut, or is very hard pressed there, then 
>>>  
>>>
>>will 
>>
>>
>>>the US have to send troops there to keep the peace? Or risk an 
>>>Israeli loss. 
>>>
>>>If peacekeepers are not sent there (and few other countries will 
>>>  
>>>
>>be 
>>
>>
>>>enthusiastic to go), will Israel, as it is hard pressed from 
>>>  
>>>
>>further 
>>
>>
>>>attacks inside Lebanon, have no choice but to push even further 
>>>north and risk a conflict with Syria or Syrian/Iranian backed 
>>>insurgents?
>>>
>>>Does this mean there will be a shortage of troops for US 
>>>  
>>>
>>campaigns? 
>>
>>
>>>Is this the chance GW Bush has been looking for to have an 
>>>  
>>>
>excuse 
>  
>
>>to 
>>
>>
>>>institute the Draft? He wouldn't want to make Iraq the excuse, 
>>>  
>>>
>but 
>  
>
>>>once he has them drafted many of them will go to the quagmire in 
>>>Iraq.
>>>
>>>OffWorld
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>***
>>
>>Support evaporates rapidly when the cost gets high:
>>
>>http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/27/washington/27poll.html
>>
>>"Americans are overwhelmingly pessimistic about the state of 
>>
>>
>affairs 
>  
>
>>in the Middle East, with majorities doubtful there will ever be 
>>peace between Israel and its neighbors, or that American troops 
>>
>>
>will 
>  
>
>>be able to leave Iraq anytime soon, according to the latest New 
>>
>>
>York 
>  
>
>>Times/CBS News poll. 
>>
>>A majority said the war between Israel and Hezbollah will lead to 
>>
>>
>a 
>  
>
>>wider war. And while almost half of those polled approved of 
>>President Bush's handling of the crisis, a majority said they 
>>preferred the United States leave it to others to resolve.
>>
>>Over all, the poll found a strong isolationist streak in a nation 
>>clearly rattled by more than four years of war, underscoring the 
>>challenge for Mr. Bush as he tries to maintain public support for 
>>his effort to stabilize Iraq and spread democracy through the 
>>
>>
>Middle East.
>  
>
>
>So that means, that without international peacekeepers, Israel will 
>lose the war. Their tropps, who are not gung-ho for this - will be 
>forced to keep fighting hardened geurillas in Lebanon, and push 
>further north in order to stop shelling that will come from there 
>eventually , then risk a fight with Syria or Syrian and Iranian 
>nationals fighting independently of their governments.
>
>Or they will have to pull back to Israel admitting a loss and have 
>more continuous shelling and possible incursion .
>
>Without US troops Israel loses this war. With US troops, Bush loses 
>everything and US is embroiled in 3 quagmires.
>(all of which could have been avoided by just focusing on 
>Afghanistan and improving relations with Iran, which were quite good 
>during Afghan invasion and afterwards.)
>
>This current situation is a black hole for the US.
>
>OffWorld
>
I think the plan is to stand back and let the Muslim and Jewish 
fundamentalists destroy each other as that will take of a lot of 
problems in the Middle East.



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[FairfieldLife] People who ate a low-fat vegan diet

2006-07-27 Thread suziezuzie
By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent 
Thu Jul 27, 2:34 PM ET
 


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - People who ate a low-fat vegan diet, cutting 
out all meat and dairy, lowered their blood sugar more and lost more 
weight than people on a standard American Diabetes Association diet, 
researchers said on Thursday. 

  
  Beyonce
Christina Aguilera
Keyshia Cole
Christina Milian 
Janet Jackson Mariah Carey   
  
 
They lowered their cholesterol more and ended up with better kidney 
function, according to the report published in Diabetes Care, a 
journal published by the American Diabetes Association.

Participants said the vegan diet was easier to follow than most 
because they did not measure portions or count calories. Three of 
the vegan dieters dropped out of the study, compared to eight on the 
standard diet.

"I hope this study will rekindle interest in using diet changes 
first, rather than prescription drugs," Dr. Neal Barnard, president 
of the Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine, which helped 
conduct the study, told a news conference.

An estimated 18 million Americans have type-2 diabetes, which 
results from a combination of genetics and poor eating and exercise 
habits. They run a high risk of heart disease, stroke, kidney 
failure, blindness and limb loss.

Barnard's team and colleagues at George Washington University, the 
University of Toronto and the University of North Carolina tested 99 
people with type-2 diabetes, assigning them randomly to either a low-
fat, low-sugar vegan diet or the standard American Diabetes 
Association diet.

After 22 weeks on the diet, 43 percent of those on the vegan diet 
and 26 percent of those on the standard diet were either able to 
stop taking some of their drugs such as insulin or glucose-control 
medications, or lowered the doses.

The vegan dieters lost 14 pounds (6.5 kg) on average while the 
diabetes association dieters lost 6.8 pounds (3.1 kg).

An important level of glucose control called a1c fell by 1.23 points 
in the vegan group and by 0.38 in the group on the standard diet.

DROPPING DRUGS

A1c gives a measure of how well-controlled blood sugar has been over 
the preceding three months.

In the dieters who did not change whatever cholesterol drugs they 
were on during the study, LDL or "bad" cholesterol fell by 21 
percent in the vegan group and 10 percent in the standard diet group.

The vegan diet removed all animal products, including meat, fish and 
dairy. It was also low in added fat and in sugar.

The American Diabetes Association diet is more tailored, taking into 
account the patient's weight and cholesterol. Most patients on this 
diet cut calories significantly, and were told to eat sugary and 
starchy foods in moderation.

All 99 participants met weekly with advisers, who advised them on 
recipes, gave them tips for sticking to their respective diets, and 
offered encouragement.

"We have got a combination here that works successfully," said Dr. 
David Jenkins of the University of Toronto, who worked on the 
study. "The message that we so often get with diet is that it is no 
good because nobody follows it for very long."

Dr. Joshua Cohen, George Washington University associate professor 
of medicine, said everyone diagnosed with diabetes is told to start 
eating more carefully.

"That may be among the hardest things that any of us can do," Cohen 
told the news conference. 

The vegan diet "is at least as good, if not better than traditional 
approaches," Cohen said. 

Vance Warren, a 36-year-old retired police officer living in 
Washington, said he lowered his a1c from 10.4, considered 
uncontrolled diabetes, to 5.1, considered a healthy level, over 18 
months. "My life is much better being 74 pounds (34 kg) lighter," 
Warren told the news conference. 








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dean says Iraqi president is Anti Semitic

2006-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >
> > _Associated  Press Pop-up Link_ 
> > (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAQ_DEAN?
> SITE=7219&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-07-26-19-19-42)  
> > Howard Dean needs to choose his words a little more  carefully. 
> Hebrews aren't the only Semitic people, Arabs are also  semites.
> 
> Yeah, but "anti-Semitic" refers to bigotry against
> Jews, specifically, not Semitic peoples in
> general.  The term was coined in the 1880s for
> that very purpose.
> 
> Dean could have delivered his (well-deserved) 
> criticism of Maliki without using the
> inflammatory word, though.  He was just
> setting himself up for criticism.

This is just too rich.  The righty blogs, of course,
are all over Howard Dean for having called Maliki
anti-Semitic.

Fine.  Except that those *same* righty blogs have
also been highly critical of the left since this
current conflict started for not being sufficiently
supportive of Israel.  Here's an example from one
of the most prominent righty types, Jonah Goldberg,
from this very morning, from The Corner Oline:

-

Anti-Semitism & The Left [Jonah Goldberg]

This is not some sweeping indictment by any stretch of the matter. I 
think most of the prominent names on the left stand opposed to anti-
Semitism and that many such accusations are often overstated. 
Nonetheless, I am constantly noticing  how the bulk of my anti-
Semitic email comes from the left. This was not always the case. In 
the late 1990s, a lot of my anti-Semitic email was from self-
described "paleo" conservatives.

Regardless, what I find particularly illuminating of late is that a 
lot of the leftwing pests I'm accustomed to hearing from have 
switched from sending me missives about Karl Rove's pending 
indictment or Bush's falling poll numbers to really nasty anti-
Semitic attacks on Israel. Note: No, I don't think criticizing Israel 
is anti-Semitic, but I do think Israel hatred often brings out  
deeper anti-Semitic views. I find it a little disturbing that the run-
of-the-mill partisans spammers are so comfortable switching from the 
usual partisan pot shots to diatribes about "the Jews."

-

They're completely blind to the contradiction.
You can't even call it hypocrisy.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Mind of a Mystic

2006-07-27 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote:

>
> On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:16 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
>
>> Vaj wrote:
>>
>>> A Mind Matters Column™
>>> The Mind of a Mystic
>>>
>>> By R. Murali Krishna, M.D.
>>>
>>> President, James L. Hall, Jr. Center for Mind, Body & Spirit
>>>
>>> President, INTEGRIS Mental Health
>>>
>>> Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
>>>
>>> Presidend COO, INTEGRIS Mental Health and James L. Hall, Jr. Center
>>> for Mind, Body and Spirit
>>>
>>> Sri. Nithyananda Swami is a trim, healthy looking young man with
>>> dark, shoulder-length hair. Handsome and polite, possessing an open
>>> manner and a wealth of curiosity, he could be any ordinary American
>>> college student.
>>>
>>> The difference is that ordinary American college students do not wear
>>> orange robes and turbans, have not experienced spiritual
>>> enlightenment and are not regarded as a teacher, healer and mystic by
>>> millions of people in all corners of the world.
>>>
>>> A mystic? The term is not a bad fit for "Swami," as he is known.
>>> Mystics, popular culture tells us, have direct communion with God.
>>> Through means not understood or measurable, mystics are thought to
>>> have access to ultimate realities or truths. Picture a mystic and
>>> you’ll probably picture someone full of bliss, someone gifted with
>>> lofty thoughts and insights the rest of us do not possess. The very
>>> presence of a mystic is thought to bring peace and healing to others.
>>>
>>> That’s an apt description of Swami, a 27-year-old from South India.
>>> He is approached by thousands of people a year seeking relief from
>>> diseases and ailments that conventional medical approaches have not
>>> cured. Swami’s background lends him the air of a mystic, too. He left
>>> his home as a teen, visited ashrams across India, immersed himself in
>>> philosophy, read extensively and mastered the art of meditation.
>>>
>>> When Swami passed through Oklahoma City recently as one stop in his
>>> world travels, I asked him if he would let me use some of modern
>>> medicine’s newest technology to peer into his brain while he
>>> meditated. My goal: to understand, measure and demystify what happens
>>> during the mystic phenomena. Swami, who believes that meditation has
>>> a scientific basis, happily agreed.
>>>
>>> The procedures Swami went through were administered by some of
>>> Oklahoma City’s finest and most experienced physicians,
>>> neuropsychologists and researchers: Drs. Fordyce, Ruwe and Higgins of
>>> the Jim Thorpe Rehabilitation Center Neuropsychology Department and
>>> Dr. Chacko of the PET Center of Oklahoma. These doctors were using
>>> technology they use with patients on a routine basis. When they look
>>> at images obtained by their technology, they know what’s normal and
>>> what’s not.
>>>
>>> The results from testing Swami? Decidedly not normal.
>>>
>>> Imaging Brain Activity
>>>
>>> Our first look into Swami’s brain was achieved with the help of a
>>> Positron Emission Tomography (PET) device. Unlike traditional
>>> diagnostic techniques that produce images of the body’s structure or
>>> anatomy, such as X-rays, CT scans or MRI, PET produces images of the
>>> function of the brain through the metabolic activity of cells. An
>>> analog of glucose is attached to a radioactive PET tracer. The PET
>>> scanner then images the metabolically active brain areas at any given
>>> time.
>>>
>>> In the case of Swami, the drug was intended to identify highly active
>>> areas of the brain in an alert and conscious state, in the early
>>> stages of meditation and during deep meditation.
>>>
>>> The results of the PET scan tests were stunning. To begin with, the
>>> activity in the frontal lobes of Swami’s brain were significantly
>>> heightened, even in early meditation stages. The level of activity
>>> was higher than would be seen in the average human brain under any
>>> conditions.
>>>
>>> When we then asked Swami to go into the deepest meditation state,
>>> there were two more remarkable findings.
>>>
>>> First, the dominant hemisphere of Swami’s brain was more than 90
>>> percent shut down. It was as if Swami’s brain had packed up and gone
>>> on vacation. It was quiet and still, completely at peace … and Swami
>>> had made it so at will.
>>>
>>> A second amazing aspect of Swami’s deep meditation was that the lower
>>> portion of his mesial frontal areas lighted up in a very significant
>>> way. This area roughly corresponds to the reputed location of the
>>> mystical "Third Eye."
>>>
>>> When we later asked Swami what he was doing when the mesial frontal
>>> areas lighted up, he said he was opening his third eye.
>>>
>>> Associated with both cosmic and inner knowledge and thought to be a
>>> place of clarity and peace, the Third Eye is considered by many to be
>>> the seat of the soul. Were we seeing an indication that deep
>>> meditation can open an area of the brain responsible for
>>> communicating with the divine, looking deep into the mysteries of
>>> self or creation? I believe t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for our kind words Vaj.  But it did take me 17 years!  I think
there have been a lot of changes on both sides.

I am going up specifically to see John Hammond playing at a ski resort
ourdoor blues festival in the Poconos.  I am staying in a nice cabin
by a lake.  I will definitely bring some guitars.  Have a great
weekend yourself.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:39 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> 
> > I think I am running in different circles, so I haven't heard from or
> > seen anyone here.  I remember when Pat Ryan showed up at a big DC
> > course around '88.  I alway thought that was pretty ballsy!  I did
> > play some music for an old MIU friend's party this month, with all
> > sidhas and governors but me and my girl and maybe one other non TM
> > person.  Seemed like people let bygones be bygones and just enjoyed
> > the music which I really appreciated.  It was the first time I had
> > hung out at a sidha dominant gathering in 17 years.  There were very
> > few hardcore people, mostly family types, probably like the Fairfield
> > mix you know.  They even served wine and had a real hotdog option
> > along with the juice and tofu so everyone had a good time.  My GF, who
> > had never met any TM people to her knowledge, thought the women were
> > especially open and friendly and the men were very shy. I thought that
> > was a funny observation.  "All these middle aged, thin, shy men" was
> > her comment.   She has never hung out with any self-development type
> > crowd.  There were mostly people who knew me from my Center stint and
> > only a few old MIU classmates.  It was really nice to reconnect.
> > Since I was not exactly in a position to report anyone, I got many an
> > earful of how people had included other teachings into their lives but
> > had to hide it from the hardcore types.  I think it was mostly from
> > posting here that I was encouraged to go.  I'm glad I did, it filled
> > in some gaps.
> 
> 
> What a wonderful story, thanks for sharing it! It speaks volumes to  
> your integrity that you have not cordoned off parts of your past but  
> bring them so nicely into the present. Very open minded and whole.
> 
> Have a great weekend in the Pocs!
>







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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Mind of a Mystic

2006-07-27 Thread Vaj


On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:16 PM, Bhairitu wrote:Vaj wrote:  A Mind Matters Column™ The Mind of a Mystic  By R. Murali Krishna, M.D.  President, James L. Hall, Jr. Center for Mind, Body & Spirit  President, INTEGRIS Mental Health  Oklahoma City, Oklahoma  Presidend COO, INTEGRIS Mental Health and James L. Hall, Jr. Center   for Mind, Body and Spirit  Sri. Nithyananda Swami is a trim, healthy looking young man with   dark, shoulder-length hair. Handsome and polite, possessing an open   manner and a wealth of curiosity, he could be any ordinary American   college student.  The difference is that ordinary American college students do not wear   orange robes and turbans, have not experienced spiritual   enlightenment and are not regarded as a teacher, healer and mystic by   millions of people in all corners of the world.  A mystic? The term is not a bad fit for "Swami," as he is known.   Mystics, popular culture tells us, have direct communion with God.   Through means not understood or measurable, mystics are thought to   have access to ultimate realities or truths. Picture a mystic and   you’ll probably picture someone full of bliss, someone gifted with   lofty thoughts and insights the rest of us do not possess. The very   presence of a mystic is thought to bring peace and healing to others.  That’s an apt description of Swami, a 27-year-old from South India.   He is approached by thousands of people a year seeking relief from   diseases and ailments that conventional medical approaches have not   cured. Swami’s background lends him the air of a mystic, too. He left   his home as a teen, visited ashrams across India, immersed himself in   philosophy, read extensively and mastered the art of meditation.  When Swami passed through Oklahoma City recently as one stop in his   world travels, I asked him if he would let me use some of modern   medicine’s newest technology to peer into his brain while he   meditated. My goal: to understand, measure and demystify what happens   during the mystic phenomena. Swami, who believes that meditation has   a scientific basis, happily agreed.  The procedures Swami went through were administered by some of   Oklahoma City’s finest and most experienced physicians,   neuropsychologists and researchers: Drs. Fordyce, Ruwe and Higgins of   the Jim Thorpe Rehabilitation Center Neuropsychology Department and   Dr. Chacko of the PET Center of Oklahoma. These doctors were using   technology they use with patients on a routine basis. When they look   at images obtained by their technology, they know what’s normal and   what’s not.  The results from testing Swami? Decidedly not normal.  Imaging Brain Activity  Our first look into Swami’s brain was achieved with the help of a   Positron Emission Tomography (PET) device. Unlike traditional   diagnostic techniques that produce images of the body’s structure or   anatomy, such as X-rays, CT scans or MRI, PET produces images of the   function of the brain through the metabolic activity of cells. An   analog of glucose is attached to a radioactive PET tracer. The PET   scanner then images the metabolically active brain areas at any given   time.  In the case of Swami, the drug was intended to identify highly active   areas of the brain in an alert and conscious state, in the early   stages of meditation and during deep meditation.  The results of the PET scan tests were stunning. To begin with, the   activity in the frontal lobes of Swami’s brain were significantly   heightened, even in early meditation stages. The level of activity   was higher than would be seen in the average human brain under any   conditions.  When we then asked Swami to go into the deepest meditation state,   there were two more remarkable findings.  First, the dominant hemisphere of Swami’s brain was more than 90   percent shut down. It was as if Swami’s brain had packed up and gone   on vacation. It was quiet and still, completely at peace … and Swami   had made it so at will.  A second amazing aspect of Swami’s deep meditation was that the lower   portion of his mesial frontal areas lighted up in a very significant   way. This area roughly corresponds to the reputed location of the   mystical "Third Eye."  When we later asked Swami what he was doing when the mesial frontal   areas lighted up, he said he was opening his third eye.  Associated with both cosmic and inner knowledge and thought to be a   place of clarity and peace, the Third Eye is considered by many to be   the seat of the soul. Were we seeing an indication that deep   meditation can open an area of the brain responsible for   communicating with the divine, looking deep into the mysteries of   self or creation? I believe the PET scan revealed what I call the   brain’s "D-spot." Whether you consider the "D" in D-spot to stand for   delight, the divine or even dopamine, the chemical through which our   bodies experience pleasure, initial indications are that meditation   can stimulate it.  Measuring Brainwav

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread Vaj


On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:39 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:I think I am running in different circles, so I haven't heard from or seen anyone here.  I remember when Pat Ryan showed up at a big DC course around '88.  I alway thought that was pretty ballsy!  I did play some music for an old MIU friend's party this month, with all sidhas and governors but me and my girl and maybe one other non TM person.  Seemed like people let bygones be bygones and just enjoyed the music which I really appreciated.  It was the first time I had hung out at a sidha dominant gathering in 17 years.  There were very few hardcore people, mostly family types, probably like the Fairfield mix you know.  They even served wine and had a real hotdog option along with the juice and tofu so everyone had a good time.  My GF, who had never met any TM people to her knowledge, thought the women were especially open and friendly and the men were very shy. I thought that was a funny observation.  "All these middle aged, thin, shy men" was her comment.   She has never hung out with any self-development type crowd.  There were mostly people who knew me from my Center stint and only a few old MIU classmates.  It was really nice to reconnect.  Since I was not exactly in a position to report anyone, I got many an earful of how people had included other teachings into their lives but had to hide it from the hardcore types.  I think it was mostly from posting here that I was encouraged to go.  I'm glad I did, it filled in some gaps. What a wonderful story, thanks for sharing it! It speaks volumes to your integrity that you have not cordoned off parts of your past but bring them so nicely into the present. Very open minded and whole. Have a great weekend in the Pocs!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Bhogi

2006-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> I am not ignoring your response.  I just don't have time to respond
> in detail.  I spent too much time writing here as it is today.  Do 
> you really want my comments?

Up to you.  My point was that when you ask someone
a leading question *and* also supply your own answer,
and then not only don't address the response but
dismiss it as something "only you can ask and answer,"
it makes one wonder why you bothered to ask in the
first place, and suggests your only motivation was to
get your rocks off by delivering your "Dr. Phil"
thought-stopper.

> Being nice to people is not unusual in my life, giving or receiving.

Right, I think that's what I said: you expend a great
deal of effort to come across as a nice guy, and most
people buy into that.  You're used to them doing so,
and when you encounter someone who doesn't, you don't
know how to just accept it; you feel compelled to *fix*
it, to almost force them to change their mind.

You simply don't come across as "real" to me, Curtis.
The nice-guy stuff feels artificial, studied,
calculated (not consciously; I think you've been
doing it for so long it's become automatic--but
I do sense a tinge of anxiety to it).


> I don't think you are especially good at reading people.  I think it
> is the lack of emotional intelligence that is your downfall.

Let's just say I get a lot of feedback in precisely
the opposite direction (not here, though, obviously).

  So I am
> not losing any sleep over your unkind remarks.  I just figure you
> don't know any better.  Seems like a tough way to go through life to
> me.  But I will give it some thought about why I would post to
> someone with such a low regard for me.  That might need some work 
> on my part.

My point is that you *should* be able to refrain
from trying to sweet-talk me into changing my mind
about you.  I think that's what you need to work on
(and I'm doing my bit to help).  My opinion of you
shouldn't matter unless you figure I'm right and
that you need to change.

Feel free to talk to me or not, as you choose.  
Two people don't have to like each other to have
a conversation.  But try to be real if that's what
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's Middle East Meltdown.

2006-07-27 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > With the Iraqi PM pressing for more US troops to come to 
Iraq 
> to 
> > > > stabalize the mess Bush has made there, and with the 
Israelis, 
> > who 
> > > > have now said they invaded Lebanon with the intention of 
> having 
> > > the 
> > > > international community set up a military protected 
> > international 
> > > > zone there. And with UN troops fighting more Taliban in 
> > > Afghanistan 
> > > > now.
> > > > 
> > > > If Israel loses in Beirut, or is very hard pressed there, 
then 
> > > will 
> > > > the US have to send troops there to keep the peace? Or risk 
an 
> > > > Israeli loss. 
> > > > 
> > > > If peacekeepers are not sent there (and few other countries 
> will 
> > > be 
> > > > enthusiastic to go), will Israel, as it is hard pressed from 
> > > further 
> > > > attacks inside Lebanon, have no choice but to push even 
> further 
> > > > north and risk a conflict with Syria or Syrian/Iranian 
backed 
> > > > insurgents?
> > > > 
> > > > Does this mean there will be a shortage of troops for US 
> > > campaigns? 
> > > > Is this the chance GW Bush has been looking for to have an 
> > excuse 
> > > to 
> > > > institute the Draft? He wouldn't want to make Iraq the 
excuse, 
> > but 
> > > > once he has them drafted many of them will go to the 
quagmire 
> in 
> > > > Iraq.
> > > > 
> > > > OffWorld
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ***
> > > 
> > > Support evaporates rapidly when the cost gets high:
> > > 
> > > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/27/washington/27poll.html
> > > 
> > > "Americans are overwhelmingly pessimistic about the state of 
> > affairs 
> > > in the Middle East, with majorities doubtful there will ever 
be 
> > > peace between Israel and its neighbors, or that American 
troops 
> > will 
> > > be able to leave Iraq anytime soon, according to the latest 
New 
> > York 
> > > Times/CBS News poll. 
> > > 
> > > A majority said the war between Israel and Hezbollah will lead 
> to 
> > a 
> > > wider war. And while almost half of those polled approved of 
> > > President Bush's handling of the crisis, a majority said they 
> > > preferred the United States leave it to others to resolve.
> > > 
> > > Over all, the poll found a strong isolationist streak in a 
> nation 
> > > clearly rattled by more than four years of war, underscoring 
the 
> > > challenge for Mr. Bush as he tries to maintain public support 
> for 
> > > his effort to stabilize Iraq and spread democracy through the 
> > Middle East.
> > >
> > 
> 
> 
> > So that means, that without international peacekeepers, Israel 
> will 
> > lose the war. Their tropps, who are not gung-ho for this - will 
be 
> > forced to keep fighting hardened geurillas in Lebanon, and push 
> > further north in order to stop shelling that will come from 
there 
> > eventually , then risk a fight with Syria or Syrian and Iranian 
> > nationals fighting independently of their governments.
> > 
> > Or they will have to pull back to Israel admitting a loss and 
have 
> > more continuous shelling and possible incursion .
> > 
> > Without US troops Israel loses this war. With US troops, Bush 
> loses 
> > everything and US is embroiled in 3 quagmires.
> > (all of which could have been avoided by just focusing on 
> > Afghanistan and improving relations with Iran, which were quite 
> good 
> > during Afghan invasion and afterwards.)
> > 
> > This current situation is a black hole for the US.
> > 
> > OffWorld
> >
> 
> **
> 
> As expected, the online Economist notes today that "Four UN 
> peacekeepers were killed by Israeli bombs in southern Lebanon, 
> making some governments warier of sending peacekeeping troops."
> 
> Even if other countries sent troops into Lebanon, the range of 
> missiles will increase over time, as you note, and so there is no 
> military solution to this problem. There's also no diplomatic 
> solution, a genuine black hole created by stupid people who create 
> problems with no solution. Only an increase in values of 
> intelligence through TM and the pundits could possibly change the 
> situation.>>>

There are no other options open for Middle East and US now except to 
try the group yogic flying effect. It is worth a try.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dean says Iraqi president is Anti Semitic

2006-07-27 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> _Associated  Press Pop-up Link_ 
> (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAQ_DEAN?
SITE=7219&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-07-26-19-19-42)  
> Howard Dean needs to choose his words a little more  carefully. 
Hebrews aren't the 
> only Semitic people, Arabs are also  semites.>

So Israel belongs to the Semites.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Mind of a Mystic

2006-07-27 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote:

> A Mind Matters Column™
> The Mind of a Mystic
>
> By R. Murali Krishna, M.D.
>
> President, James L. Hall, Jr. Center for Mind, Body & Spirit
>
> President, INTEGRIS Mental Health
>
> Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
>
> Presidend COO, INTEGRIS Mental Health and James L. Hall, Jr. Center  
> for Mind, Body and Spirit
>
> Sri. Nithyananda Swami is a trim, healthy looking young man with  
> dark, shoulder-length hair. Handsome and polite, possessing an open  
> manner and a wealth of curiosity, he could be any ordinary American  
> college student.
>
> The difference is that ordinary American college students do not wear  
> orange robes and turbans, have not experienced spiritual  
> enlightenment and are not regarded as a teacher, healer and mystic by  
> millions of people in all corners of the world.
>
> A mystic? The term is not a bad fit for "Swami," as he is known.  
> Mystics, popular culture tells us, have direct communion with God.  
> Through means not understood or measurable, mystics are thought to  
> have access to ultimate realities or truths. Picture a mystic and  
> you’ll probably picture someone full of bliss, someone gifted with  
> lofty thoughts and insights the rest of us do not possess. The very  
> presence of a mystic is thought to bring peace and healing to others.
>
> That’s an apt description of Swami, a 27-year-old from South India.  
> He is approached by thousands of people a year seeking relief from  
> diseases and ailments that conventional medical approaches have not  
> cured. Swami’s background lends him the air of a mystic, too. He left  
> his home as a teen, visited ashrams across India, immersed himself in  
> philosophy, read extensively and mastered the art of meditation.
>
> When Swami passed through Oklahoma City recently as one stop in his  
> world travels, I asked him if he would let me use some of modern  
> medicine’s newest technology to peer into his brain while he  
> meditated. My goal: to understand, measure and demystify what happens  
> during the mystic phenomena. Swami, who believes that meditation has  
> a scientific basis, happily agreed.
>
> The procedures Swami went through were administered by some of  
> Oklahoma City’s finest and most experienced physicians,  
> neuropsychologists and researchers: Drs. Fordyce, Ruwe and Higgins of  
> the Jim Thorpe Rehabilitation Center Neuropsychology Department and  
> Dr. Chacko of the PET Center of Oklahoma. These doctors were using  
> technology they use with patients on a routine basis. When they look  
> at images obtained by their technology, they know what’s normal and  
> what’s not.
>
> The results from testing Swami? Decidedly not normal.
>
> Imaging Brain Activity
>
> Our first look into Swami’s brain was achieved with the help of a  
> Positron Emission Tomography (PET) device. Unlike traditional  
> diagnostic techniques that produce images of the body’s structure or  
> anatomy, such as X-rays, CT scans or MRI, PET produces images of the  
> function of the brain through the metabolic activity of cells. An  
> analog of glucose is attached to a radioactive PET tracer. The PET  
> scanner then images the metabolically active brain areas at any given  
> time.
>
> In the case of Swami, the drug was intended to identify highly active  
> areas of the brain in an alert and conscious state, in the early  
> stages of meditation and during deep meditation.
>
> The results of the PET scan tests were stunning. To begin with, the  
> activity in the frontal lobes of Swami’s brain were significantly  
> heightened, even in early meditation stages. The level of activity  
> was higher than would be seen in the average human brain under any  
> conditions.
>
> When we then asked Swami to go into the deepest meditation state,  
> there were two more remarkable findings.
>
> First, the dominant hemisphere of Swami’s brain was more than 90  
> percent shut down. It was as if Swami’s brain had packed up and gone  
> on vacation. It was quiet and still, completely at peace … and Swami  
> had made it so at will.
>
> A second amazing aspect of Swami’s deep meditation was that the lower  
> portion of his mesial frontal areas lighted up in a very significant  
> way. This area roughly corresponds to the reputed location of the  
> mystical "Third Eye."
>
> When we later asked Swami what he was doing when the mesial frontal  
> areas lighted up, he said he was opening his third eye.
>
> Associated with both cosmic and inner knowledge and thought to be a  
> place of clarity and peace, the Third Eye is considered by many to be  
> the seat of the soul. Were we seeing an indication that deep  
> meditation can open an area of the brain responsible for  
> communicating with the divine, looking deep into the mysteries of  
> self or creation? I believe the PET scan revealed what I call the  
> brain’s "D-spot." Whether you consider the "D" in D-spot to stand for  
> delight, the divine or even dopamine, the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread off_world_beings
War deaths?
Death by Accident?
Peace deals?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I created a blog to track th "effects". As stated on the blog 
banner, 
> 
> "[This is an ]Exploratory analysis of Maharishi / Coherence Effects
> from 2006 Summer US Course. This is a weak test in that it 
provides of
> only one "dose/intervention" and thus will not result conclusive
> findings. But it may provide insight for more comprehensive studies
> examining 10-20+ dose/interventions across different time periods 
and
> geographic areas."
> 
> I will add gold, oil and the dollar later.
> 
> Chronologically, the posts begin at the bottom of the blog. Current
> posts are first (highest).
> 
> Click on the graph to get a larger view.
> 
> http://2006-course-effects.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter  
wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- curtisdeltablues 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Stock Market Continues to Climb During Second Day of
> > > Invincible
> > > America Course
> > > 
> > > "Watch What Happens Tomorrow"
> > > 
> > > Wall Street continued its unexpected climb
> > > yesterday, gaining 53
> > > points following Monday's dramatic spike, while the
> > > price of gold and
> > > crude oil dropped markedly during the second day of
> > > the "Invincible
> > > America Course" now being held in Washington , D.C.
> > > , and Iowa .
> > > Nearly 1200 coherence-creating experts have gathered
> > > to practice Yogic
> > > Flying together in large groups to create coherent
> > > collective
> > > consciousness--the basis of prosperity, harmony, and
> > > invincibility for
> > > the nation. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Wow!  I am having a freak'n flashback.  They are
> > > still running this
> > > number?  Not the Age of Enlightenment news again!
> > > When it goes up,
> > > report it, when it goes down ignore it. I can't
> > > believe this claim
> > > still works on adults.
> > 
> > It is amazing, isn't it?
> > 
> > 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Pat Ryan

2006-07-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
I was in that class too.  Pat's perspective changed when he attended
an intervention exit counseling of his sister out of a Christian cult.
 It was after we graduated from MIU in '79. That was when he felt he
might have to look into his own involvement with TM differently.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I personally knew Pat Ryan when he was a student in the 70s at MIU 
> and on a 79 advanced rounding summer course. He was part of the 
> artsy crowd, Jodi, Chester, etc., and I never, never got the 
> impression that he had any negative TM-MIU attitudes. As a matter of 
> fact, he was quite MMY-MIU-TM positive. His claim on TM-X that he 
> was brainwashed by MIU recruiters to attend the college was total 
> BS. He could have left anytime but chose to stay the full four years 
> for a degree, during which time, whenever I saw him, was all smiles 
> and never complained. Obviously, it was an event that occured after 
> he left MIU that changed his mind. Mark
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Sal,
> > 
> > I think I am running in different circles, so I haven't heard from 
> or
> > seen anyone here.  I remember when Pat Ryan showed up at a big DC
> > course around '88.  I alway thought that was pretty ballsy!  I did
> > play some music for an old MIU friend's party this month, with all
> > sidhas and governors but me and my girl and maybe one other non TM
> > person.  Seemed like people let bygones be bygones and just enjoyed
> > the music which I really appreciated.  It was the first time I had
> > hung out at a sidha dominant gathering in 17 years.  There were 
> very
> > few hardcore people, mostly family types, probably like the 
> Fairfield
> > mix you know.  They even served wine and had a real hotdog option
> > along with the juice and tofu so everyone had a good time.  My GF, 
> who
> > had never met any TM people to her knowledge, thought the women 
> were
> > especially open and friendly and the men were very shy. I thought 
> that
> > was a funny observation.  "All these middle aged, thin, shy men" 
> was
> > her comment.   She has never hung out with any self-development 
> type
> > crowd.  There were mostly people who knew me from my Center stint 
> and
> > only a few old MIU classmates.  It was really nice to reconnect. 
> > Since I was not exactly in a position to report anyone, I got many 
> an
> > earful of how people had included other teachings into their lives 
> but
> > had to hide it from the hardcore types.  I think it was mostly from
> > posting here that I was encouraged to go.  I'm glad I did, it 
> filled
> > in some gaps.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Sort of in the  middle for me--how's that for annoying 
> ambiguity? :)  
> > > Really, I've always been a bit lazy about pronouncing it "Ma ha 
> RI shi" 
> > > so I simply skip the second syllable, and use "Ma RI shi" 
> instead.  So 
> > > far, nobody's bothered to correct me--either they haven't picked 
> up on 
> > > it, or, more likely, they figure it's hopeless. :)
> > > 
> > > Never got into the "Muh HAAR shi" trip--now *that* sounded 
> really 
> > > pretentious IMO (in a way, it's sort of the flip side of the 
> Mahesh 
> > > label)--same thing with the Ayur Veda/Ved stuff, along with the 
> > > pundits/pandits spelling--my personal favorite  at the 
> moment. :)  And 
> > > yeah, I do remember when the switch started--at the Taste of 
> Utopia 
> > > Course (in 82, I think) and the first person who tried 
> to "convert" me 
> > > to start talking like that seemed pretty much like a clueless 
> > > basket-case.
> > > 
> > > Yep, we're cooking here, although June was pretty nice and the 
> serious 
> > > heat didn't start until a few weeks ago.
> > > 
> > > Seen any of the old crowd out there?
> > > 
> > > Sal
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 2:42 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hey Sally, its been a while.  So the real question is whether 
> you use
> > > > the affected "Mahaarshi" or the old school "Maharishi"!  
> Remember when
> > > > everyone started making that switch?  Then they started with 
> the Ayur
> > > > Ved, instead of Ayur Veda. So many ways to sound special!  Are 
> you
> > > > guys baking out there too?  DC has been hot, hot, hot.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> That's the way I feel and how I always refer to him in 
> writing,
> > > >> primarily (for moi anyway) I'm simply too lazy to type out 
> Maharishi
> > > >> each and every time, MMY is so much easier. In conversation I 
> always
> > > >> use Maharishi--it's the name that always comes to mind in 
> connection
> > > >> with him, it feels right, and I don't really care much how he 
> got it.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sal
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:19 AM, cu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lebanon, MMY, TMO and Fairfield Life..

2006-07-27 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Have not had time to check postings here but need to express my 
> alarm and concern at what is happening over there and how EASILY 
it 
> could escalate and bring a Baghdad-like scenario to many areas of 
> the world. Several years ago, when still a "believer" of MMY & the 
> yogic flying social effect, I highlighted the need to concentrate 
> Movement resources on certain key projects - my priority was 
> establishing a permanent "invincibility" group in Lebanon or 
Israel. 
> This area was the open wound in the world where most of the 
threats 
> to world peace emmaneted from. Given that Raja Ram was himself 
> Lebanese I thought naively that MMY would be persuaded to focus 
> resources in this region - and given the population sizes involved 
> it seemed a very feasible objective. I wonder now whether all this 
> talk of invincibility is just a pipedream anyway, but if it isn't 
> what a trajedy, what short-sightedness, blindness, STUPIDITY we 
have 
> witnessed from the TMO in its dealings with this region. There are 
> about 7 million Israelis - a group of 250 would have been 
sufficient 
> to shepherd the country's tendencies towards less belligerent 
lines -
> and would have avoided the chaos for the world that now is being 
> unleashed. Instead we have had 50 years languishing in the 
> wilderness of indecision, chasing hopeless mirages and getting 
> precisely NOWHERE in realising the potentialities of this 
knowledge. 
> Yet again a TMO project - now invincible Holland - turns out to be 
> too little too late and in the wrong geographic orientation 
anyway. 
> What were those astrologers advising MMY doing anyway, not seeing 
> danger signs on the horizon which anyone with common sense could 
> easily have forseen. MMY and the TMO made a big deal about their 
> ideas being reported in the Jerusalem Post recently but we all 
know  
> this really amounts to a complete FAILURE of vision and 
leadership. 
> I do hope there are people in this forum that share my 
> disappointment. It will be my last posting otherwise>>

Maharishi wants YOU to do it. Why are you waiting for him to do it. 
You are the one. Create a renegade group of 1,000 flyers in Western 
Jordan now. Do it ! The world is waiting for you and your failure 
will fail the world.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Like some kind of cicaida cycle!



   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Once every 17 years?  Sounds about right. :)
> 
> Glad to hear that everyone was friendly and that you both had a good 
> time.  That's pretty much the way it is around here too, probably minus 
> the tofu though.  Never could get into that.
> 
> Sal
> 
> 
> On Jul 27, 2006, at 4:39 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> 
> > Sal,
> >
> > I think I am running in different circles, so I haven't heard from or
> > seen anyone here.  I remember when Pat Ryan showed up at a big DC
> > course around '88.  I alway thought that was pretty ballsy!  I did
> > play some music for an old MIU friend's party this month, with all
> > sidhas and governors but me and my girl and maybe one other non TM
> > person.  Seemed like people let bygones be bygones and just enjoyed
> > the music which I really appreciated.  It was the first time I had
> > hung out at a sidha dominant gathering in 17 years.  There were very
> > few hardcore people, mostly family types, probably like the Fairfield
> > mix you know.  They even served wine and had a real hotdog option
> > along with the juice and tofu so everyone had a good time.  My GF, who
> > had never met any TM people to her knowledge, thought the women were
> > especially open and friendly and the men were very shy. I thought that
> > was a funny observation.  "All these middle aged, thin, shy men" was
> > her comment.   She has never hung out with any self-development type
> > crowd.  There were mostly people who knew me from my Center stint and
> > only a few old MIU classmates.  It was really nice to reconnect.
> > Since I was not exactly in a position to report anyone, I got many an
> > earful of how people had included other teachings into their lives but
> > had to hide it from the hardcore types.  I think it was mostly from
> > posting here that I was encouraged to go.  I'm glad I did, it filled
> > in some gaps.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Sort of in the  middle for me--how's that for annoying ambiguity? :)
> >> Really, I've always been a bit lazy about pronouncing it "Ma ha RI 
> >> shi"
> >> so I simply skip the second syllable, and use "Ma RI shi"
instead.  So
> >> far, nobody's bothered to correct me--either they haven't picked
up on
> >> it, or, more likely, they figure it's hopeless. :)
> >>
> >> Never got into the "Muh HAAR shi" trip--now *that* sounded really
> >> pretentious IMO (in a way, it's sort of the flip side of the Mahesh
> >> label)--same thing with the Ayur Veda/Ved stuff, along with the
> >> pundits/pandits spelling--my personal favorite  at the moment. :)
 And
> >> yeah, I do remember when the switch started--at the Taste of Utopia
> >> Course (in 82, I think) and the first person who tried to
"convert" me
> >> to start talking like that seemed pretty much like a clueless
> >> basket-case.
> >>
> >> Yep, we're cooking here, although June was pretty nice and the
serious
> >> heat didn't start until a few weeks ago.
> >>
> >> Seen any of the old crowd out there?
> >>
> >> Sal
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 27, 2006, at 2:42 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey Sally, its been a while.  So the real question is whether
you use
> >>> the affected "Mahaarshi" or the old school "Maharishi"!  Remember 
> >>> when
> >>> everyone started making that switch?  Then they started with the
Ayur
> >>> Ved, instead of Ayur Veda. So many ways to sound special!  Are you
> >>> guys baking out there too?  DC has been hot, hot, hot.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  That's the way I feel and how I always refer to him in writing,
>  primarily (for moi anyway) I'm simply too lazy to type out
Maharishi
>  each and every time, MMY is so much easier. In conversation I
always
>  use Maharishi--it's the name that always comes to mind in
connection
>  with him, it feels right, and I don't really care much how he got 
>  it.
> 
>  Sal
> 
> 
>  On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:19 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> 
> > o I am cool with MMY and it doesn't throw out an unnecessary FU to
> > the people who still value him.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread suziezuzie
I think the middle east will be the real indicator. Mark





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Quran says Israel belongs to Jews

2006-07-27 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "larry.potter" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Scholar: Quran says Israel belongs to Jews
> Contends Islam's book decrees land is for people of Moses 
> 
> A contrarian Muslim professor claims the Quran actually teaches 
> Israel belongs to the Jews. 
> 
> Khaleel Mohammed, assistant professor of religious studies at San 
> Diego State University, said in an interview with Frontpage 
Magazine 
> the person most mentioned in Islam's holy book is Moses, the great 
> Old Testament prophet and leader of the Israelites. 
> 
> 
> Mohammed says the Quran presents Moses "as God's revolutionary" 
> who "leads a people despised and tormented for no other reason 
than 
> that they worshipped God, out of the land of bondage to the 
Promised 
> Holy Land." 
> 
> The professor quotes from Chapter 5: 20-21, which says Moses 
> declared, "O my people! Remember the bounty of God upon you when 
He 
> bestowed prophets upon you, and made you kings and gave you that 
> which had not been given to anyone before you amongst the nations. 
O 
> my people! Enter the Holy Land which God has written for you, and 
do 
> not turn tail, otherwise you will be losers." 
> 
> Mohammed points specifically to the reference to the Holy Land as 
a 
> place God has "written" for the Israelites, a term that conveys, 
in 
> Jewish and Islamic understandings, a "meaning of finality, 
> decisiveness and immutability." 
> 
> "So the simple fact is then," he says, "from a faith-based point 
of 
> view: If God has 'written' Israel for the people of Moses, who can 
> change this?" 
> 
> The professor describes himself as a scholar "interested in a 
> moderate Islam, one that is inclusive and is concerned about all 
> human rights." 
> 
> "My mission is to help reclaim the beauty that once was practiced 
in 
> Islam, a message not currently in fashion amongst more traditional 
> or fundamentalist Muslims," he told Frontpage. 
> 
> Mohammed said while Muslims may argue the present state of Israel 
> was "not created in the most peaceful means, and that many were 
> displaced," this, for him, is not the issue. 
> 
> "The issue," says Mohammed, "is that when the Muslims entered that 
> land in the 7th century, they were well aware of its rightful 
> owners, and when they failed to act according to divine mandate 
(at 
> least as perceived by followers of all Abrahamic faiths), they 
aided 
> and abetted in a crime. And the present situation shows the fruits 
> of that action -- wherein innocent Palestinians and Israelis are 
> being killed on a daily basis." 
> 
> He says medieval scholars, "without any exception known to me," 
> interpreted the Quran to recognize Israel as belonging to the 
Jews. 
> 
> According to Mohammed, the idea that Israel does not belong to the 
> Jews is a modern one, "probably based on the Mideast rejection of 
> European colonialism, etc., but certainly not having anything to 
do 
> with the Quran." 
> 
> Most Muslims, he laments, do not read the Quran for themselves and 
> instead rely on imams and preachers to do the reading and 
> interpreting for them.
> 
> June 10, 2004 >>.

Stupid.

The borders of Israel were invented in 1948.

Can you show me a map that has "Israel" written on it before that 
date?

The Jews were an offshoot of the tribe known as the Caananites who 
had lived there for an indefinte period beforehand. 

Canaanites were said to be heirs fo Adam who also was and ancestor 
of Abraham. 

The Muslims hold their father to be Abraham.

Abraham = Ahumbrahmasmi... 

...because, as the character in the story called 'Jesus', 
states: "Before Brahman was, I AM".

OffWorld






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's Middle East Meltdown.

2006-07-27 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > With the Iraqi PM pressing for more US troops to come to Iraq 
to 
> > > stabalize the mess Bush has made there, and with the Israelis, 
> who 
> > > have now said they invaded Lebanon with the intention of 
having 
> > the 
> > > international community set up a military protected 
> international 
> > > zone there. And with UN troops fighting more Taliban in 
> > Afghanistan 
> > > now.
> > > 
> > > If Israel loses in Beirut, or is very hard pressed there, then 
> > will 
> > > the US have to send troops there to keep the peace? Or risk an 
> > > Israeli loss. 
> > > 
> > > If peacekeepers are not sent there (and few other countries 
will 
> > be 
> > > enthusiastic to go), will Israel, as it is hard pressed from 
> > further 
> > > attacks inside Lebanon, have no choice but to push even 
further 
> > > north and risk a conflict with Syria or Syrian/Iranian backed 
> > > insurgents?
> > > 
> > > Does this mean there will be a shortage of troops for US 
> > campaigns? 
> > > Is this the chance GW Bush has been looking for to have an 
> excuse 
> > to 
> > > institute the Draft? He wouldn't want to make Iraq the excuse, 
> but 
> > > once he has them drafted many of them will go to the quagmire 
in 
> > > Iraq.
> > > 
> > > OffWorld
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > ***
> > 
> > Support evaporates rapidly when the cost gets high:
> > 
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/27/washington/27poll.html
> > 
> > "Americans are overwhelmingly pessimistic about the state of 
> affairs 
> > in the Middle East, with majorities doubtful there will ever be 
> > peace between Israel and its neighbors, or that American troops 
> will 
> > be able to leave Iraq anytime soon, according to the latest New 
> York 
> > Times/CBS News poll. 
> > 
> > A majority said the war between Israel and Hezbollah will lead 
to 
> a 
> > wider war. And while almost half of those polled approved of 
> > President Bush's handling of the crisis, a majority said they 
> > preferred the United States leave it to others to resolve.
> > 
> > Over all, the poll found a strong isolationist streak in a 
nation 
> > clearly rattled by more than four years of war, underscoring the 
> > challenge for Mr. Bush as he tries to maintain public support 
for 
> > his effort to stabilize Iraq and spread democracy through the 
> Middle East.
> >
> 


> So that means, that without international peacekeepers, Israel 
will 
> lose the war. Their tropps, who are not gung-ho for this - will be 
> forced to keep fighting hardened geurillas in Lebanon, and push 
> further north in order to stop shelling that will come from there 
> eventually , then risk a fight with Syria or Syrian and Iranian 
> nationals fighting independently of their governments.
> 
> Or they will have to pull back to Israel admitting a loss and have 
> more continuous shelling and possible incursion .
> 
> Without US troops Israel loses this war. With US troops, Bush 
loses 
> everything and US is embroiled in 3 quagmires.
> (all of which could have been avoided by just focusing on 
> Afghanistan and improving relations with Iran, which were quite 
good 
> during Afghan invasion and afterwards.)
> 
> This current situation is a black hole for the US.
> 
> OffWorld
>

**

As expected, the online Economist notes today that "Four UN 
peacekeepers were killed by Israeli bombs in southern Lebanon, 
making some governments warier of sending peacekeeping troops."

Even if other countries sent troops into Lebanon, the range of 
missiles will increase over time, as you note, and so there is no 
military solution to this problem. There's also no diplomatic 
solution, a genuine black hole created by stupid people who create 
problems with no solution. Only an increase in values of 
intelligence through TM and the pundits could possibly change the 
situation.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread Sal Sunshine
Once every 17 years?  Sounds about right. :) 

Glad to hear that everyone was friendly and that you both had a good time.  That's pretty much the way it is around here too, probably minus the tofu though.  Never could get into that. 

Sal


On Jul 27, 2006, at 4:39 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

Sal,

I think I am running in different circles, so I haven't heard from or
seen anyone here.  I remember when Pat Ryan showed up at a big DC
course around '88.  I alway thought that was pretty ballsy!  I did
play some music for an old MIU friend's party this month, with all
sidhas and governors but me and my girl and maybe one other non TM
person.  Seemed like people let bygones be bygones and just enjoyed
the music which I really appreciated.  It was the first time I had
hung out at a sidha dominant gathering in 17 years.  There were very
few hardcore people, mostly family types, probably like the Fairfield
mix you know.  They even served wine and had a real hotdog option
along with the juice and tofu so everyone had a good time.  My GF, who
had never met any TM people to her knowledge, thought the women were
especially open and friendly and the men were very shy. I thought that
was a funny observation.  "All these middle aged, thin, shy men" was
her comment.   She has never hung out with any self-development type
crowd.  There were mostly people who knew me from my Center stint and
only a few old MIU classmates.  It was really nice to reconnect. 
Since I was not exactly in a position to report anyone, I got many an
earful of how people had included other teachings into their lives but
had to hide it from the hardcore types.  I think it was mostly from
posting here that I was encouraged to go.  I'm glad I did, it filled
in some gaps.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Sort of in the  middle for me--how's that for annoying ambiguity? :)  
Really, I've always been a bit lazy about pronouncing it "Ma ha RI shi" 
so I simply skip the second syllable, and use "Ma RI shi" instead.  So 
far, nobody's bothered to correct me--either they haven't picked up on 
it, or, more likely, they figure it's hopeless. :)

Never got into the "Muh HAAR shi" trip--now *that* sounded really 
pretentious IMO (in a way, it's sort of the flip side of the Mahesh 
label)--same thing with the Ayur Veda/Ved stuff, along with the 
pundits/pandits spelling--my personal favorite  at the moment. :)  And 
yeah, I do remember when the switch started--at the Taste of Utopia 
Course (in 82, I think) and the first person who tried to "convert" me 
to start talking like that seemed pretty much like a clueless 
basket-case.

Yep, we're cooking here, although June was pretty nice and the serious 
heat didn't start until a few weeks ago.

Seen any of the old crowd out there?

Sal


On Jul 27, 2006, at 2:42 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

Hey Sally, its been a while.  So the real question is whether you use
the affected "Mahaarshi" or the old school "Maharishi"!  Remember when
everyone started making that switch?  Then they started with the Ayur
Ved, instead of Ayur Veda. So many ways to sound special!  Are you
guys baking out there too?  DC has been hot, hot, hot.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
wrote:
That's the way I feel and how I always refer to him in writing,
primarily (for moi anyway) I'm simply too lazy to type out Maharishi
each and every time, MMY is so much easier. In conversation I always
use Maharishi--it's the name that always comes to mind in connection
with him, it feels right, and I don't really care much how he got it.

Sal


On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:19 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

o I am cool with MMY and it doesn't throw out an unnecessary FU to
the people who still value him.








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[FairfieldLife] Pat Ryan

2006-07-27 Thread suziezuzie
I personally knew Pat Ryan when he was a student in the 70s at MIU 
and on a 79 advanced rounding summer course. He was part of the 
artsy crowd, Jodi, Chester, etc., and I never, never got the 
impression that he had any negative TM-MIU attitudes. As a matter of 
fact, he was quite MMY-MIU-TM positive. His claim on TM-X that he 
was brainwashed by MIU recruiters to attend the college was total 
BS. He could have left anytime but chose to stay the full four years 
for a degree, during which time, whenever I saw him, was all smiles 
and never complained. Obviously, it was an event that occured after 
he left MIU that changed his mind. Mark


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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sal,
> 
> I think I am running in different circles, so I haven't heard from 
or
> seen anyone here.  I remember when Pat Ryan showed up at a big DC
> course around '88.  I alway thought that was pretty ballsy!  I did
> play some music for an old MIU friend's party this month, with all
> sidhas and governors but me and my girl and maybe one other non TM
> person.  Seemed like people let bygones be bygones and just enjoyed
> the music which I really appreciated.  It was the first time I had
> hung out at a sidha dominant gathering in 17 years.  There were 
very
> few hardcore people, mostly family types, probably like the 
Fairfield
> mix you know.  They even served wine and had a real hotdog option
> along with the juice and tofu so everyone had a good time.  My GF, 
who
> had never met any TM people to her knowledge, thought the women 
were
> especially open and friendly and the men were very shy. I thought 
that
> was a funny observation.  "All these middle aged, thin, shy men" 
was
> her comment.   She has never hung out with any self-development 
type
> crowd.  There were mostly people who knew me from my Center stint 
and
> only a few old MIU classmates.  It was really nice to reconnect. 
> Since I was not exactly in a position to report anyone, I got many 
an
> earful of how people had included other teachings into their lives 
but
> had to hide it from the hardcore types.  I think it was mostly from
> posting here that I was encouraged to go.  I'm glad I did, it 
filled
> in some gaps.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> wrote:
> >
> > Sort of in the  middle for me--how's that for annoying 
ambiguity? :)  
> > Really, I've always been a bit lazy about pronouncing it "Ma ha 
RI shi" 
> > so I simply skip the second syllable, and use "Ma RI shi" 
instead.  So 
> > far, nobody's bothered to correct me--either they haven't picked 
up on 
> > it, or, more likely, they figure it's hopeless. :)
> > 
> > Never got into the "Muh HAAR shi" trip--now *that* sounded 
really 
> > pretentious IMO (in a way, it's sort of the flip side of the 
Mahesh 
> > label)--same thing with the Ayur Veda/Ved stuff, along with the 
> > pundits/pandits spelling--my personal favorite  at the 
moment. :)  And 
> > yeah, I do remember when the switch started--at the Taste of 
Utopia 
> > Course (in 82, I think) and the first person who tried 
to "convert" me 
> > to start talking like that seemed pretty much like a clueless 
> > basket-case.
> > 
> > Yep, we're cooking here, although June was pretty nice and the 
serious 
> > heat didn't start until a few weeks ago.
> > 
> > Seen any of the old crowd out there?
> > 
> > Sal
> > 
> > 
> > On Jul 27, 2006, at 2:42 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> > 
> > > Hey Sally, its been a while.  So the real question is whether 
you use
> > > the affected "Mahaarshi" or the old school "Maharishi"!  
Remember when
> > > everyone started making that switch?  Then they started with 
the Ayur
> > > Ved, instead of Ayur Veda. So many ways to sound special!  Are 
you
> > > guys baking out there too?  DC has been hot, hot, hot.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 

> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> That's the way I feel and how I always refer to him in 
writing,
> > >> primarily (for moi anyway) I'm simply too lazy to type out 
Maharishi
> > >> each and every time, MMY is so much easier. In conversation I 
always
> > >> use Maharishi--it's the name that always comes to mind in 
connection
> > >> with him, it feels right, and I don't really care much how he 
got it.
> > >>
> > >> Sal
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:19 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> o I am cool with MMY and it doesn't throw out an unnecessary 
FU to
> > >>> the people who still value him.
> >
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:

> > What they're trying to do here, obviously, is to inspire
> > folks to attend the courses on the grounds that they're
> > actually having an effect; presumably their thinking is
> > that the more people attend, the more solid the effect.>>
> 
> Well, if they keep peddling that BS (stock market goes up and down 
> every week, so what), it is enough to put any rational person off 
> going to the course. It sounds nutty, and cult-like loonies.

Hey, I wouldn't have known any different until
fairly recently when I acquired some stocks for
the first time and started to learn a little (very
little so far!) about the market.  The first thing
I had to learn was to ignore the day-to-day
fluctuations for the sake of my mental health.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Bhogi

2006-07-27 Thread curtisdeltablues

I am not ignoring your response.  I just don't have time to respond in
detail.  I spent too much time writing here as it is today.  Do you
really want my comments?  I can save it for when I get back from my
trip.  I don't always have a response to your posts once you have
stated your view.  I don't need to debate everything, I just take what
you said as your perspective and I have already posted mine. 

Your perception of me as a creep is itself creepy.  It is true that I
don't like it. It is also true that I enjoy people's approval. 
Because I have a pretty high regard for most people, it is usually
returned.
Being nice to people is not unusual in my life, giving or receiving. 
  Those are the people who deserve my attention.  You are the only
exception I can think of in this regard.  You may be onto something
about me wishing I had a perfect score.  But when you react to even
the simplest comments like :

 I accept that it is only you who
> > will ever really know.
>
> That's big of you.

I don't think it is an option.  We just see things too differently.
When I don't answer all of your post you accuse me of dark motives
pretty often.  That totally sucks since I can't keep up timewise, so I
have to pick and choose.  I also realized that if I am only engaged
with your posts, I miss out on some really interesting people on this
group who don't view me as a creep.  So I am making sure that I spend
more time where my views are appreciated.  Seems pretty natural to me.  

I don't think you are especially good at reading people.  I think it
is the lack of emotional intelligence that is your downfall.  So I am
not losing any sleep over your unkind remarks.  I just figure you
don't know any better.  Seems like a tough way to go through life to
me.  But I will give it some thought about why I would post to someone
with such a low regard for me.  That might need some work on my part.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > I was just throwing out my theory.  Don't you ever make theories
> > about other people's motivations?
> 
> Yeah, but I don't then ignore the response and
> say, "We all have to ask and answer these questions
> for ourselves."
> 
>   I accept that it is only you who 
> > will ever really know.
> 
> That's big of you.
> 
> Here's my theory about you:  You cannot bear the
> idea that there is anybody who doesn't see you
> as a terrific fellow.  You put enormous effort
> into being agreeable, and you're usually very
> successful at it.
> 
> But not always, and it freaks you out to find that
> somebody thinks you're a creep; you have to stand
> on your head to try to change their opinion of you.
> 
> I don't know whether it keeps you awake at night if
> you can't do it, but I wouldn't be the least bit
> surprised if it did.  It's like an itch you can't
> stop scratching.
> 
> For whatever reason, your own good opinion of
> yourself isn't enough.  You have to see a perfect
> score reflected back from everybody else, and
> you expend a tremendous amount of energy in trying
> to achieve that impossible goal.
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[FairfieldLife] 'Iran-Conta/Dealing With The Devil?'

2006-07-27 Thread Robert Gimbel



I understand that the Reagan administration dealt with the Iranians;  In the 80's...  The hostages, in captivity for 444 days under Jimmie Carter;  Were suddenly released in Ronald's inauguration day, that January, 1981...  Remember,   Ollie North, and all of that nonsense...  Now, we are 'Dealing' with the Iranians, again?  Make's no sense to me...  This guy in Iran, reminds me of Adolf Hitler, doesn't he to you?  Same type, a little man, in stature,   Has sexual issues as well;  I am sure...  Anyway, this guy's obviously sold his soul to the Devil;  And we are dealing with him, Why???  If the Israel's seem a Little aggressive in pursuing their goal;  Of self-survival...  In the end, can they really depend on the United States;  Not to sell them out? 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Stock Market Continues to Climb During Second Day of 
Invincible
> > > > America Course
> > > > 
> > > > "Watch What Happens Tomorrow"
> > > > 
> > > > Wall Street continued its unexpected climb yesterday, 
gaining 53
> > > > points following Monday's dramatic spike, while the price of 
> gold 
> > > and
> > > > crude oil dropped markedly during the second day of 
> the "Invincible
> > > > America Course" now being held in Washington , D.C. , and 
Iowa .
> > > > Nearly 1200 coherence-creating experts have gathered to 
> practice 
> > > Yogic
> > > > Flying together in large groups to create coherent collective
> > > > consciousness--the basis of prosperity, harmony, and 
> invincibility 
> > > for
> > > > the nation. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Wow!  I am having a freak'n flashback.  They are still 
running 
> > > > this number?  Not the Age of Enlightenment news again! When 
it 
> > > > goes up, report it, when it goes down ignore it. I can't 
> > > > believe this claim still works on adults.
> > > 
> > > The Dow Jones didn't move at all yesterday after its
> > > 53-point rise on Tuesday.
> > 
> > Yeah the connection with the stock market seems so silly.  I 
don't
> > know why they try to use it.
> 
> The theory is that a rising stock market is a sign of
> general optimism, and optimism is seen as an indicator
> of increasing coherence in consciousness.
> 
> The first is no doubt true--it's pretty well accepted--
> but the second, I dunno; if it's *false* optimism given
> the circumstances, that seems like it would be *lack*
> of coherence.  On the other hand, unrelieved pessimism
> isn't a really promising basis for improving the
> circumstances.  *Guarded* optimism at this point--if
> that can be quantified--seems like it might actually
> represent a more coherent response.
> 
> In any case, the stock market has been so volatile over
> the past month or so that a "spike" or two doesn't have
> much significance.  A steady rising trend over a period
> of some months would be a different story (as long as
> there was a realistic basis for it, i.e., not
> "irrational exuberance").
> 
> What they're trying to do here, obviously, is to inspire
> folks to attend the courses on the grounds that they're
> actually having an effect; presumably their thinking is
> that the more people attend, the more solid the effect.>>

Well, if they keep peddling that BS (stock market goes up and down 
every week, so what), it is enough to put any rational person off 
going to the course. It sounds nutty, and cult-like loonies.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's Middle East Meltdown.

2006-07-27 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
>  wrote:
> >
> > With the Iraqi PM pressing for more US troops to come to Iraq to 
> > stabalize the mess Bush has made there, and with the Israelis, 
who 
> > have now said they invaded Lebanon with the intention of having 
> the 
> > international community set up a military protected 
international 
> > zone there. And with UN troops fighting more Taliban in 
> Afghanistan 
> > now.
> > 
> > If Israel loses in Beirut, or is very hard pressed there, then 
> will 
> > the US have to send troops there to keep the peace? Or risk an 
> > Israeli loss. 
> > 
> > If peacekeepers are not sent there (and few other countries will 
> be 
> > enthusiastic to go), will Israel, as it is hard pressed from 
> further 
> > attacks inside Lebanon, have no choice but to push even further 
> > north and risk a conflict with Syria or Syrian/Iranian backed 
> > insurgents?
> > 
> > Does this mean there will be a shortage of troops for US 
> campaigns? 
> > Is this the chance GW Bush has been looking for to have an 
excuse 
> to 
> > institute the Draft? He wouldn't want to make Iraq the excuse, 
but 
> > once he has them drafted many of them will go to the quagmire in 
> > Iraq.
> > 
> > OffWorld
> >
> 
> 
> ***
> 
> Support evaporates rapidly when the cost gets high:
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/27/washington/27poll.html
> 
> "Americans are overwhelmingly pessimistic about the state of 
affairs 
> in the Middle East, with majorities doubtful there will ever be 
> peace between Israel and its neighbors, or that American troops 
will 
> be able to leave Iraq anytime soon, according to the latest New 
York 
> Times/CBS News poll. 
> 
> A majority said the war between Israel and Hezbollah will lead to 
a 
> wider war. And while almost half of those polled approved of 
> President Bush's handling of the crisis, a majority said they 
> preferred the United States leave it to others to resolve.
> 
> Over all, the poll found a strong isolationist streak in a nation 
> clearly rattled by more than four years of war, underscoring the 
> challenge for Mr. Bush as he tries to maintain public support for 
> his effort to stabilize Iraq and spread democracy through the 
Middle East.
>

So that means, that without international peacekeepers, Israel will 
lose the war. Their tropps, who are not gung-ho for this - will be 
forced to keep fighting hardened geurillas in Lebanon, and push 
further north in order to stop shelling that will come from there 
eventually , then risk a fight with Syria or Syrian and Iranian 
nationals fighting independently of their governments.

Or they will have to pull back to Israel admitting a loss and have 
more continuous shelling and possible incursion .

Without US troops Israel loses this war. With US troops, Bush loses 
everything and US is embroiled in 3 quagmires.
(all of which could have been avoided by just focusing on 
Afghanistan and improving relations with Iran, which were quite good 
during Afghan invasion and afterwards.)

This current situation is a black hole for the US.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Sal,

I think I am running in different circles, so I haven't heard from or
seen anyone here.  I remember when Pat Ryan showed up at a big DC
course around '88.  I alway thought that was pretty ballsy!  I did
play some music for an old MIU friend's party this month, with all
sidhas and governors but me and my girl and maybe one other non TM
person.  Seemed like people let bygones be bygones and just enjoyed
the music which I really appreciated.  It was the first time I had
hung out at a sidha dominant gathering in 17 years.  There were very
few hardcore people, mostly family types, probably like the Fairfield
mix you know.  They even served wine and had a real hotdog option
along with the juice and tofu so everyone had a good time.  My GF, who
had never met any TM people to her knowledge, thought the women were
especially open and friendly and the men were very shy. I thought that
was a funny observation.  "All these middle aged, thin, shy men" was
her comment.   She has never hung out with any self-development type
crowd.  There were mostly people who knew me from my Center stint and
only a few old MIU classmates.  It was really nice to reconnect. 
Since I was not exactly in a position to report anyone, I got many an
earful of how people had included other teachings into their lives but
had to hide it from the hardcore types.  I think it was mostly from
posting here that I was encouraged to go.  I'm glad I did, it filled
in some gaps.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Sort of in the  middle for me--how's that for annoying ambiguity? :)  
> Really, I've always been a bit lazy about pronouncing it "Ma ha RI shi" 
> so I simply skip the second syllable, and use "Ma RI shi" instead.  So 
> far, nobody's bothered to correct me--either they haven't picked up on 
> it, or, more likely, they figure it's hopeless. :)
> 
> Never got into the "Muh HAAR shi" trip--now *that* sounded really 
> pretentious IMO (in a way, it's sort of the flip side of the Mahesh 
> label)--same thing with the Ayur Veda/Ved stuff, along with the 
> pundits/pandits spelling--my personal favorite  at the moment. :)  And 
> yeah, I do remember when the switch started--at the Taste of Utopia 
> Course (in 82, I think) and the first person who tried to "convert" me 
> to start talking like that seemed pretty much like a clueless 
> basket-case.
> 
> Yep, we're cooking here, although June was pretty nice and the serious 
> heat didn't start until a few weeks ago.
> 
> Seen any of the old crowd out there?
> 
> Sal
> 
> 
> On Jul 27, 2006, at 2:42 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> 
> > Hey Sally, its been a while.  So the real question is whether you use
> > the affected "Mahaarshi" or the old school "Maharishi"!  Remember when
> > everyone started making that switch?  Then they started with the Ayur
> > Ved, instead of Ayur Veda. So many ways to sound special!  Are you
> > guys baking out there too?  DC has been hot, hot, hot.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> That's the way I feel and how I always refer to him in writing,
> >> primarily (for moi anyway) I'm simply too lazy to type out Maharishi
> >> each and every time, MMY is so much easier. In conversation I always
> >> use Maharishi--it's the name that always comes to mind in connection
> >> with him, it feels right, and I don't really care much how he got it.
> >>
> >> Sal
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:19 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> >>
> >>> o I am cool with MMY and it doesn't throw out an unnecessary FU to
> >>> the people who still value him.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Sort of in the  middle for me--how's that for annoying ambiguity? :)  
> Really, I've always been a bit lazy about pronouncing it "Ma ha RI 
shi" 
> so I simply skip the second syllable, and use "Ma RI shi" instead.

I skip the "h" too, but not the syllable; it comes
out like "Ma-er-I-shi."  Typical lazy American
pronunciation.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: brain and assumptions

2006-07-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks that is fantastic. I am going to make one.

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> http://www.grand-illusions.com/opticalillusions/dragon_illusion
> 
> wonderful optical illusion, watch the video on the page.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread new . morning
Hagelin Press release (July 26): 

"Rising stock markets and declining gold and oil prices are all strong
indicators of rising optimism and confidence in the country's economic
future. Experts predicted the upheaval in the Middle East would
depress Wall Street and send gold and oil skyrocketing. To the
surprise of most economists, the opposite occurred."

[Blogger Note: This is incorrect. oil and gold have have sharpley
increased since July 24. (See chart #3)
And the Dollar has declined. (see chart #4)]

http://2006-course-effects.blogspot.com/






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[FairfieldLife] The Raj on IPT tonight

2006-07-27 Thread Sal Sunshine
For those who live in Iowa:

The Raj to be Featured on Living in Iowa 

 Maharishi Vedic City’s health spa gets a visit and air time on Iowa Public Television.

The Raj, Vedic City’s ayurvedic health spa will be featured on “Living in Iowa”, as the show revisits some of their favorite locations across the state from the past year. According to a press release from “Living in Iowa” the health spa located just north of Fairfield has received rave reviews by big name spa magazines for their holistic treatments designed to improve their visitors’ health.

The show will be aired tonight at 7:30 and again on Friday at 8:30 p.m. on statewide Iowa Public Television.

http://www.radiovillage.com/news.cfm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scorpionland: worst drought in century

2006-07-27 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" 
 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > today's Wall Street Journal:
> > > > 
> > > > England is having its worst drought in 100 years -- 
> > > >folks are growing cactus in their gardens
> > > 
> > > You talk crap, bbrigante.
> > >
> > Actually, the Brits have been growing cactus in their gardens 
> >for a very long time. It's considered an exotic plant.
> 


> That's the reason given. But the real one is that we Brits regard
> it as our patriotic duty to have a cactus close to hand so that
> if bbrigante ever shows up here, we can ram it up his alimentary
> canal.
> Uns.
>

*

Well, at least some of you lot have more character than your lap dog 
PM:

"In an opinion piece in today's issue of The New Statesman, for 
instance, Sir Stephen Wall, a former senior adviser to Mr Blair, 
wrote: "The overriding reason for Britain's loss of moral authority 
is Blair's conviction he has to hitch the U.K. to the chariot of the 
U.S. president."

"Could the prime minister really not speak up for the simple 
proposition that the slaughter of innocent people in Lebanon, the 
destruction of their country and the ruin of half a million lives 
were wrong and should stop immediately?" Sir Stephen's analysis 
asked. 

"Is it the conviction of our government that we should leave it to 
George W. Bush to set the bearings of our moral compass?" he wrote.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/27/world/europe/27cnd-britain.html





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread Sal Sunshine
Sort of in the  middle for me--how's that for annoying ambiguity? :)  Really, I've always been a bit lazy about pronouncing it "Ma ha RI shi" so I simply skip the second syllable, and use "Ma RI shi" instead.  So far, nobody's bothered to correct me--either they haven't picked up on it, or, more likely, they figure it's hopeless. :)

Never got into the "Muh HAAR shi" trip--now *that* sounded really pretentious IMO (in a way, it's sort of the flip side of the Mahesh label)--same thing with the Ayur Veda/Ved stuff, along with the pundits/pandits spelling--my personal favorite  at the moment. :)  And yeah, I do remember when the switch started--at the Taste of Utopia Course (in 82, I think) and the first person who tried to "convert" me to start talking like that seemed pretty much like a clueless basket-case.  

Yep, we're cooking here, although June was pretty nice and the serious heat didn't start until a few weeks ago.

Seen any of the old crowd out there?

Sal


On Jul 27, 2006, at 2:42 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

Hey Sally, its been a while.  So the real question is whether you use
the affected "Mahaarshi" or the old school "Maharishi"!  Remember when
everyone started making that switch?  Then they started with the Ayur
Ved, instead of Ayur Veda. So many ways to sound special!  Are you
guys baking out there too?  DC has been hot, hot, hot.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
That's the way I feel and how I always refer to him in writing, 
primarily (for moi anyway) I'm simply too lazy to type out Maharishi 
each and every time, MMY is so much easier. In conversation I always 
use Maharishi--it's the name that always comes to mind in connection 
with him, it feels right, and I don't really care much how he got it.

Sal


On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:19 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

o I am cool with MMY and it doesn't throw out an unnecessary FU to
the people who still value him.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Bhogi

2006-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
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> I was just throwing out my theory.  Don't you ever make theories
> about other people's motivations?

Yeah, but I don't then ignore the response and
say, "We all have to ask and answer these questions
for ourselves."

  I accept that it is only you who 
> will ever really know.

That's big of you.

Here's my theory about you:  You cannot bear the
idea that there is anybody who doesn't see you
as a terrific fellow.  You put enormous effort
into being agreeable, and you're usually very
successful at it.

But not always, and it freaks you out to find that
somebody thinks you're a creep; you have to stand
on your head to try to change their opinion of you.

I don't know whether it keeps you awake at night if
you can't do it, but I wouldn't be the least bit
surprised if it did.  It's like an itch you can't
stop scratching.

For whatever reason, your own good opinion of
yourself isn't enough.  You have to see a perfect
score reflected back from everybody else, and
you expend a tremendous amount of energy in trying
to achieve that impossible goal.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Bhogi

2006-07-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
I was just throwing out my theory.  Don't you ever make theories about
other people's motivations?  I accept that it is only you who will
ever really know.



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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
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> > Thanks for taking the post seriously, as it was intended, and
> > writing back in detail. We all have to ask and answer these 
> > questions for ourselves.
> 
> Which is why you asked and answered it (incorrectly)
> for me, right?
>






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[FairfieldLife] The Mind of a Mystic

2006-07-27 Thread Vaj


A Mind Matters Column™The Mind of a MysticBy R. Murali Krishna, M.D.President, James L. Hall, Jr. Center for Mind, Body & SpiritPresident, INTEGRIS Mental HealthOklahoma City, OklahomaPresidend COO, INTEGRIS Mental Health and James L. Hall, Jr. Center for Mind, Body and SpiritSri. Nithyananda Swami is a trim, healthy looking young man with dark, shoulder-length hair. Handsome and polite, possessing an open manner and a wealth of curiosity, he could be any ordinary American college student.The difference is that ordinary American college students do not wear orange robes and turbans, have not experienced spiritual enlightenment and are not regarded as a teacher, healer and mystic by millions of people in all corners of the world.A mystic? The term is not a bad fit for "Swami," as he is known. Mystics, popular culture tells us, have direct communion with God. Through means not understood or measurable, mystics are thought to have access to ultimate realities or truths. Picture a mystic and you’ll probably picture someone full of bliss, someone gifted with lofty thoughts and insights the rest of us do not possess. The very presence of a mystic is thought to bring peace and healing to others.That’s an apt description of Swami, a 27-year-old from South India. He is approached by thousands of people a year seeking relief from diseases and ailments that conventional medical approaches have not cured. Swami’s background lends him the air of a mystic, too. He left his home as a teen, visited ashrams across India, immersed himself in philosophy, read extensively and mastered the art of meditation.When Swami passed through Oklahoma City recently as one stop in his world travels, I asked him if he would let me use some of modern medicine’s newest technology to peer into his brain while he meditated. My goal: to understand, measure and demystify what happens during the mystic phenomena. Swami, who believes that meditation has a scientific basis, happily agreed.The procedures Swami went through were administered by some of Oklahoma City’s finest and most experienced physicians, neuropsychologists and researchers: Drs. Fordyce, Ruwe and Higgins of the Jim Thorpe Rehabilitation Center Neuropsychology Department and Dr. Chacko of the PET Center of Oklahoma. These doctors were using technology they use with patients on a routine basis. When they look at images obtained by their technology, they know what’s normal and what’s not.The results from testing Swami? Decidedly not normal.Imaging Brain ActivityOur first look into Swami’s brain was achieved with the help of a Positron Emission Tomography (PET) device. Unlike traditional diagnostic techniques that produce images of the body’s structure or anatomy, such as X-rays, CT scans or MRI, PET produces images of the function of the brain through the metabolic activity of cells. An analog of glucose is attached to a radioactive PET tracer. The PET scanner then images the metabolically active brain areas at any given time.In the case of Swami, the drug was intended to identify highly active areas of the brain in an alert and conscious state, in the early stages of meditation and during deep meditation.The results of the PET scan tests were stunning. To begin with, the activity in the frontal lobes of Swami’s brain were significantly heightened, even in early meditation stages. The level of activity was higher than would be seen in the average human brain under any conditions.When we then asked Swami to go into the deepest meditation state, there were two more remarkable findings.First, the dominant hemisphere of Swami’s brain was more than 90 percent shut down. It was as if Swami’s brain had packed up and gone on vacation. It was quiet and still, completely at peace … and Swami had made it so at will.A second amazing aspect of Swami’s deep meditation was that the lower portion of his mesial frontal areas lighted up in a very significant way. This area roughly corresponds to the reputed location of the mystical "Third Eye."When we later asked Swami what he was doing when the mesial frontal areas lighted up, he said he was opening his third eye.Associated with both cosmic and inner knowledge and thought to be a place of clarity and peace, the Third Eye is considered by many to be the seat of the soul. Were we seeing an indication that deep meditation can open an area of the brain responsible for communicating with the divine, looking deep into the mysteries of self or creation? I believe the PET scan revealed what I call the brain’s "D-spot." Whether you consider the "D" in D-spot to stand for delight, the divine or even dopamine, the chemical through which our bodies experience pleasure, initial indications are that meditation can stimulate it.Measuring BrainwavesThe second procedure we used to look into Swami’s brain is known as Quantitative Electroencephalography, or QEEG. QEEG measures electrical patterns in the brain, patterns commonly referred to as brainwaves.There are fou

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Bhogi

2006-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
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> Thanks for taking the post seriously, as it was intended, and
> writing back in detail. We all have to ask and answer these 
> questions for ourselves.

Which is why you asked and answered it (incorrectly)
for me, right?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
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> Hey Sally, its been a while.  So the real question is whether you use
> the affected "Mahaarshi" or the old school "Maharishi"!  Remember when
> everyone started making that switch?  Then they started with the Ayur
> Ved, instead of Ayur Veda. So many ways to sound special!

Or, only one way to pronounce Sanskrit correctly?








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Good stuff!  Listening to King Tony on a tape recently was very creepy
in this area.  He is doing a pretty good MMY in every inflection
starting with Jai Guru Dve.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hey Sally, its been a while. So the real question is 
> > whether you use the affected "Mahaarshi" or the old 
> > school "Maharishi"!  Remember when everyone started 
> > making that switch?  Then they started with the Ayur
> > Ved, instead of Ayur Veda. So many ways to sound special!
> 
> Hey, I've seen worse.
> 
> In the Rama trip, he usually spoke impeccable English,
> but occasionally he would mispronounce a word or flub up
> the name of a song or movie. An example of the former
> is the French synth composer Jean-Michel Jarre. Rama
> insisted on pronouncing it Jarré (Jaar-eh, if you can't
> see the accented e). I would estimate that a couple of
> hundred people I knew began pronouncing it Jarré, even
> the French student who knew better. 
> 
> An example of the second was that he'd misremember the
> title of the film "Full Metal Jacket" as "Heavy Metal
> Jacket." Within a month half the room was referring to 
> the film that way when it would come up in conversation.
> 
> I think this stuff just happens. People are people, 
> and they do stupid shit when they're in love.
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Bhogi

2006-07-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for taking the post seriously, as it was intended, and writing
back in detail. We all have to ask and answer these questions for
ourselves. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Judy "Can you say "denial and avoidance"? I knew you could."
> > 
> > When I first started posting, your big gripe with me was that I
> > didn't avoid talking with you.
> 
> Huh??  My big gripe with you was that you avoided
> dealing with most of the points in my responses.
> 
> What the heck are you talking about?
> 
>  Which is it?   If I were to give myself a
> > self-criticism it is that I am very bad at avoidance.  Avoidance 
> > would help me.   As far as denial goes...who knows?  I am opened to 
> > anyone who had information I am lacking. It would not be the first 
> > time.
> 
> In this case, I've already given you the information.
> 
> > But since you have gone Dr. Phil on me a little, and you seem to be 
> > in a decent mood today, here is one for you.  Do you think it could 
> > be, (and I am being serious here), that your strong need to counter 
> > every post that is negative about TM or MMY is really just an
> > externalization of your own inner conflict on these matters?
> 
> I can't respond to that with a yes or no, Curtis,
> because your premise is obviously wrong on its face.
> If I were to counter every post here that is negative
> about TM or MMY, I'd be at it 24 hours a day.  Most
> of them I don't comment on at all; some of them I even
> agree with (such as your point about Wall Street as
> an indicator of increased coherence, just for a recent
> example).
> 
> The critical posts I counter are those that seem to me
> to be especially poorly grounded, in facts or in
> reasoning or both; and I pay particular attention to
> the output of those critics who most frequently make
> such posts, who appear to have an agenda to discredit
> TM/MMY/TMers/the TMO and have very few, if any, scruples
> about doing so honestly.
> 
> Those aren't the *only* TM-related posts I critique, but
> it's the bulk of them.
> 
> With regard to those posts, I've asked myself whether
> it's an "externalization of interior conflict," and I
> don't believe it is.  I take the same approach, as you
> would have noticed if you'd been paying attention, to
> posts on non-TM topics; and I'll even take apart
> posts that are critical of someone or something I
> personally disapprove of if I think the criticisms are
> unfair or inaccurate.
> 
> My beef *in general* is with lack of fairness and
> honesty and especially with hypocrisy, whether in
> regard to TM or anything else.  These traits offend
> me deeply.  As I've said many times before, life is
> tough enough when folks are being as honest and
> fair as they possibly can.  If there was *one thing*
> I could correct in the world by waving a magic wand,
> that would be it.  I think many if not most of the
> problems that confront us today have to do with
> lack of personal integrity.
> 
>   You are
> > sharp enough to understand that many of these criticisms have
> > validity.  But if you let them go without a strong counter, you 
> > might have to face your own inner doubts.  I am not saying this 
> > just to be mean to you.  I'll bet you have spent some time on 
> > answering this for yourself.  I may be off base here.  
> > But "methinks thou protesteth too much" may be in play here. I 
> > think you hate the part of yourself that agrees with people who 
> > critique TM. But you have to fight it off or you have to face the 
> > meltdown realization that all these years you may not be achieving 
> > what you think you are with TM.
> 
> First, I've always loathed the TMO, and I've made
> that quite plain.  As to MMY, the only personal
> investment I have in his teachings are in those
> concerning the nature and mechanics of consciousness;
> as I've also made plain, I don't consider him
> definitive in any other area.
> 
> As far as *his* personal integrity is concerned, it
> doesn't matter to me one way or the other; it doesn't
> affect the validity of what he teaches about the
> nature and mechanics of etc., so I have no personal
> investment in that either.
> 
> The point being that whenever I defend the TMO or
> MMY in any other regard but his teaching as noted
> above, it doesn't have anything to do with feeling
> a need to suppress my doubts about the TMO or MMY,
> because I don't *care* about those things; I care
> only about being fair and honest.
> 
> Or I do care about them, but in a different way than
> you're imagining.  I care because the TMO's and MMY's
> very real flaws get in the way of more people
> practicing TM.  And I *do* care about folks with
> agendas deliberately making these flaws seem worse
> than they are, for the same reason.
> 
> Often *I* don't know where the truth lies in some of
> these controversies, but I can see more than one way
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhist Philosophy Class Online

2006-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
Too cool. Thanks for posting this.

But what's with that time zone? IST +5:30 GMT?

I hadn't thought that too many time zones were still
half an hour ahead instead of an hour. I think that
Newfoundland used to be like that, but I heard that
they changed to Nova Scotia's time zone.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> --
> Buddhist Philosophy Class Online
> --
> TibetNet
> 26 July 2006
> 
> Dharamshala: Gone are the days, when the attendance at the packed
> classroom of the Library of Tibetan Works and Archives, often overflows
> to the corridors, where students, sitting cross-legged on the floor  
> to the
> stairs, are seen ruminating over a faint echo of the teachings for  
> the day.
> 
> Now are the days, when in addition to about 100 foreigners here, who
> regularly attend the daily, two classes on Buddhist philosophy and
> practice, hundreds more could join online, as the live webcast of  
> these classes
> have already begun on www.ltwa.net or www.tibetanlibrary.org.
> 
> The Library offers two, hour-long classes, from 11 a.m. to 12 noon (IST
> +5:30 GMT), in which highly qualified lamas teach "courses focused on
> specific  Indian/Tibetan texts or on specific topics of Buddhist  
> philosophy and
> practice", which are also translated into English.
> 
> In addition to an archive of previous recordings, the site also features
> books published by the Library. "The main objective of this website is
> to make the vast resources of the Library accessible to the growing  
> number of
> Tibetans and non-Tibetans, who rely on Internet for information about
> Tibet and Tibetan studies," said Geshe Lhakdor, the director of the  
> Library.
> 
> "Before too long, we will also post the vast audio-visual materials and
> resources of various departments of the Library, like Museum, along with
> a complete database of all the available books and manuscripts, on the
> web.
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The tape account is different.  It was in the first announcement for
> his first lectures so he didn't have any students.  They reported a
> lecture given by a great Maharishi from the Himalayas.  As MMY tells
> it, the lectures were set up by a pushy guy at the temple, it was not
> his idea.  Part of his "innocent ting" personal mythology.  He wasn't
> an ambitious guy huckstering a product, he was just responding to the
> call of nature.   "Hermit in the House" paints a completely different
> picture of his ambitious nature, made all the more powerful because it
> is written by a devotee.

Good GRIEF.  Talk about *cynicism*.

It's not possible, in your view, that he didn't have
the idea to teach *initially*, then after he was pushed
into it, got all fired up when he saw how people
responded, and started thinking and acting ambitiously?

Has that kind of shift in perspective and motivation
never happened to you?  It sure has to me.

That's how I got started working for myself.  I was
an administrative assistant for an ad agency and had
shepherded an important advertising piece through
production, and after it was completed one of the
copy writers said to me, "You sure did a great job
editing that brochure."

I'd never thought of myself as an editor before.  But
I knew there were editors who worked freelance.  I 
hated working in an office, but it hadn't occurred to
me that there was a way I could make an income on my
own.

That's all it took, that guy characterizing what I
had done with the brochure as "editing."  I quit the
agency a few weeks later and started my own business.
Best thing I ever did, aside from learning TM (oh,
and coincidentally, I'd learned TM just a few months
before this happened).








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > What are the straight blue lines on the graphs, BTW?
> > > 
> > 
> > They are trendlines I drew in (including rising trend since course
> > began). They are eyeballed. i could do it precisely -- statistically
> > -- but it would take more effort. And probably not be noticably
> > different.
> 
> OK, thanks.  Maybe you should add a note to that effect.
> 
> I just posted the AP quote as a comment.  I'll try
> to remember to do that from day to day.

Ok good. Thanks "Swift".


>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Sally, its been a while. So the real question is 
> whether you use the affected "Mahaarshi" or the old 
> school "Maharishi"!  Remember when everyone started 
> making that switch?  Then they started with the Ayur
> Ved, instead of Ayur Veda. So many ways to sound special!

Hey, I've seen worse.

In the Rama trip, he usually spoke impeccable English,
but occasionally he would mispronounce a word or flub up
the name of a song or movie. An example of the former
is the French synth composer Jean-Michel Jarre. Rama
insisted on pronouncing it Jarré (Jaar-eh, if you can't
see the accented e). I would estimate that a couple of
hundred people I knew began pronouncing it Jarré, even
the French student who knew better. 

An example of the second was that he'd misremember the
title of the film "Full Metal Jacket" as "Heavy Metal
Jacket." Within a month half the room was referring to 
the film that way when it would come up in conversation.

I think this stuff just happens. People are people, 
and they do stupid shit when they're in love.








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread Bhairitu
curtisdeltablues wrote:

>Stock Market Continues to Climb During Second Day of Invincible
>America Course
>
>"Watch What Happens Tomorrow"
>
>Wall Street continued its unexpected climb yesterday, gaining 53
>points following Monday's dramatic spike, while the price of gold and
>crude oil dropped markedly during the second day of the "Invincible
>America Course" now being held in Washington , D.C. , and Iowa .
>Nearly 1200 coherence-creating experts have gathered to practice Yogic
>Flying together in large groups to create coherent collective
>consciousness--the basis of prosperity, harmony, and invincibility for
>the nation. 
>
>
>Wow!  I am having a freak'n flashback.  They are still running this
>number?  Not the Age of Enlightenment news again! When it goes up,
>report it, when it goes down ignore it. I can't believe this claim
>still works on adults. 
>
It would also seem to mean you'll have better odds in Las Vegas, Reno, 
and Atlantic City.  ;-)



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[FairfieldLife] Buddhist Philosophy Class Online

2006-07-27 Thread Vaj


--Buddhist Philosophy Class Online --TibetNet26 July 2006Dharamshala: Gone are the days, when the attendance at the packedclassroom of the Library of Tibetan Works and Archives, often overflowsto the corridors, where students, sitting cross-legged on the floor to thestairs, are seen ruminating over a faint echo of the teachings for the day.Now are the days, when in addition to about 100 foreigners here, whoregularly attend the daily, two classes on Buddhist philosophy andpractice, hundreds more could join online, as the live webcast of these classeshave already begun on www.ltwa.net or www.tibetanlibrary.org.The Library offers two, hour-long classes, from 11 a.m. to 12 noon (IST+5:30 GMT), in which highly qualified lamas teach "courses focused onspecific  Indian/Tibetan texts or on specific topics of Buddhist philosophy and practice", which are also translated into English.In addition to an archive of previous recordings, the site also featuresbooks published by the Library. "The main objective of this website isto make the vast resources of the Library accessible to the growing number ofTibetans and non-Tibetans, who rely on Internet for information aboutTibet and Tibetan studies," said Geshe Lhakdor, the director of the Library."Before too long, we will also post the vast audio-visual materials and resources of various departments of the Library, like Museum, along witha complete database of all the available books and manuscripts, on theweb.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > What are the straight blue lines on the graphs, BTW?
> > 
> 
> They are trendlines I drew in (including rising trend since course
> began). They are eyeballed. i could do it precisely -- statistically
> -- but it would take more effort. And probably not be noticably
> different.

OK, thanks.  Maybe you should add a note to that effect.

I just posted the AP quote as a comment.  I'll try
to remember to do that from day to day.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
The tape account is different.  It was in the first announcement for
his first lectures so he didn't have any students.  They reported a
lecture given by a great Maharishi from the Himalayas.  As MMY tells
it, the lectures were set up by a pushy guy at the temple, it was not
his idea.  Part of his "innocent ting" personal mythology.  He wasn't
an ambitious guy huckstering a product, he was just responding to the
call of nature.   "Hermit in the House" paints a completely different
picture of his ambitious nature, made all the more powerful because it
is written by a devotee.





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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
 wrote:
> >
> > Judy, you never saw MMY describing how he got his name on a tape?  He
> > is very clear about how he got it.
> > 
> 
> I seem to recall that he said some students referred to him that
way, he allowed it and it 
> stuck.
> 
> Is there more to this story, or did he tell a differnt story than I
remember?
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey Sally, its been a while.  So the real question is whether you use
the affected "Mahaarshi" or the old school "Maharishi"!  Remember when
everyone started making that switch?  Then they started with the Ayur
Ved, instead of Ayur Veda. So many ways to sound special!  Are you
guys baking out there too?  DC has been hot, hot, hot.




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> That's the way I feel and how I always refer to him in writing, 
> primarily (for moi anyway) I'm simply too lazy to type out Maharishi 
> each and every time, MMY is so much easier. In conversation I always 
> use Maharishi--it's the name that always comes to mind in connection 
> with him, it feels right, and I don't really care much how he got it.
> 
> Sal
> 
> 
> On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:19 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> 
> > o I am cool with MMY and it doesn't throw out an unnecessary FU to
> > the people who still value him.
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What are the straight blue lines on the graphs, BTW?
> 

They are trendlines I drew in (including rising trend since course
began). They are eyeballed. i could do it precisely -- statistically
-- but it would take more effort. And probably not be noticably
different. 


 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread authfriend
What are the straight blue lines on the graphs, BTW?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > That's pretty impressive.  Very nice job.
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> I sent the link and sort blurb to John Halelin via his web site. 
> It will be interesting if he responds. 
> 
> Maybe we will see headlines "Huge drop in gambling stocks attributed
> to ME Courese effects by securities analysts" haha.
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > 
> > > As you can see, a lot of people are snoozing this morning -- as
> > > markets decline.
> > 
> > Actually the Dow went up this a.m., didn't start going
> > down again until this afternoon. As of this moment
> > (3:14 EST), it's lost all the gains (80-some points).
> > 
> > According to AP:
> > 
> > "Robust earnings growth at major oil companies lifted stocks 
> through 
> > most of the session, with Exxon Mobil Corp. posting the second-
> > highest profit ever reported by a public U.S. company and Royal 
> Dutch 
> > Shell PLC seeing a 40 percent jump in its income.

This is the Coherence Tunneling effect. Even though its a US course,
the effects "tunnel" (as in relativity theory) to other domains of
high coherence -- Netherlands -- global capital,

> > "But the market returned to its recent trend of erratic trading as 
> > traders grew anxious about the Commerce Department's GDP reading on 
> > Friday. 

and more sidhas grew tired, especially time-zone ones from the west
coast, and began to snooze after rising "way too early" as one CP noted.

 
> > You might also want to keep track of market analysis
> > from news reports.  If forecasts turn out to be on
> > target tomorrow, stocks should go up again.
> 
> Meant to add: But these numbers will represent what
> was going on with the economy well before the course
> started.

Thats the problem -- with this and other ME (DC crime) studies. Its
only one intervention/impact. Its hard to seperate out on-going trends
to which ME courses are simply  speciously correlated.

Whats needed is a long series of starts and stops: 

2000 YF for two weeks. then two week of no YF. Two weeks 4000 YF, then
two week of no YF. Two weeks 1000 YF, then two week of no YF.  Repeat
5-20 times. 

Then we could actually do some valid analysis on such data sets -- and
sort out any actual impacts of ME on markets.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
> Hey! Watch that appropriating my name for your 
> theory stuff! You're getting into tricky legal
> and ethical territory...doncha remember how Carl 
> Sagan went ballistic when Apple named one of their 
> projects after him? He threatened to sue. 

That should have been 'code-named' one of their
projects after him. The code name is an internal-
to-the-company thing, so most folks at Apple were
surprised at his reaction and, as I heard it, 
changed the offending code name immediately, to BHA.

Speculation that this acronym stood for Butt Hole
Astronomer was neither confirmed or denied by
Apple management.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dean says Iraqi president is Anti Semitic

2006-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> _Associated  Press Pop-up Link_ 
> (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAQ_DEAN?
SITE=7219&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-07-26-19-19-42)  
> Howard Dean needs to choose his words a little more  carefully. 
Hebrews aren't the 
> only Semitic people, Arabs are also  semites.

Yeah, but "anti-Semitic" refers to bigotry against
Jews, specifically, not Semitic peoples in
general.  The term was coined in the 1880s for
that very purpose.

Dean could have delivered his (well-deserved) 
criticism of Maliki without using the
inflammatory word, though.  He was just
setting himself up for criticism.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palestine

2006-07-27 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/27/06 2:04:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Were you 
  kidding when you said you didn't thinkmany people converted to Judaism 
  except if theymarried a Jew?

No, I was serious about that. I can't prove it, but when you hear about 
people converting you usually hear of them converting to the other major 
religions of the world, Christianity Islam and Buddhism. As you said earlier 
Jews tend to discourage conversion to their religion or at least not make it 
easy. Because of this I would think the major reason for people converting 
to Judaism would be because their spouse was Jewish. I wouldn't be surprised in 
this time if  more people didn't try to explore the possibility 
but I don't think it would be common.   

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I created a blog to track th "effects". As stated on the blog 
> > > > banner, 
> > > > 
> > > > "[This is an ]Exploratory analysis of Maharishi / Coherence
Effects
> > > > from 2006 Summer US Course. This is a weak test in that it
provides 
> > > > of
> > > > only one "dose/intervention" and thus will not result conclusive
> > > > findings. But it may provide insight for more comprehensive
studies
> > > > examining 10-20+ dose/interventions across different time periods 
> > > > and geographic areas."
> > > > 
> > > > I will add gold, oil and the dollar later.
> > > > 
> > > > Chronologically, the posts begin at the bottom of the blog.
Current
> > > > posts are first (highest).
> > > > 
> > > > Click on the graph to get a larger view.
> > > > 
> > > > http://2006-course-effects.blogspot.com/
> > > 
> > > Very nice.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > As you can see, a lot of people are snoozing this morning -- as
> > markets decline. Perhaps due to lots of new arrivals and travel
> fatigue. 
> > 
> > Or perhaps due to what I like to call the "Barry effect". In 
> > the course environment, lots of people are seeing old friends, 
> > making new friends, etc, and subsequently, there is lots of um, 
> > "embracing", into the wee hours of the night.
> 
> Hey! Watch that appropriating my name for your 
> theory stuff! You're getting into tricky legal
> and ethical territory...doncha remember how Carl 
> Sagan went ballistic when Apple named one of their 
> projects after him? He threatened to sue. 
> 
> I checked with my attorney and he has received 
> no request from any scientific organization for 
> the rights to use my name for any new scientific
> theory, and so I must fall back on the promptings
> of ethics and tell you that you can use it only
> if it'll get me laid.

Oh your ego is SO big! :)

I was referring to Barry Manilow of course -- you know -- he being
characteristic of old guys who are desperately still trying to get
laid by young hot women (or in his case, is it men?)  :)














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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
 "Well, obviously you don't respect him *because* you
> think he's wrong."
>

I'm not sure that is the only option.  Sometimes I enjoy joining the
scrum and yanking on his beard because I like to poke fun at what I
perceive as pretensions.  But when I give it more thought, I actually
believe that he has a narcissistic personality disorder, so I'm pretty
sure he can't help himself.  I think his contempt for his followers is
a byproduct of this.  Although it doesn't make it more pleasant, the
concept of my respect for him seems pretty moot. 




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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > I hope you see the tape sometime so you can judge for yourself.
> > 
> > Judy: I'm just pointing out that there's no
> > reason for you to be inhibited about calling him
> > "Mahesh" since you've made your disrespect crystal
> > clear.
> > 
> > I think that distracts from my points unnecessarily.
> 
> It was an aside at the very end of my response, Curtis.
> *You* decided to turn it into some sort of imaginary
> duel between us as to who had done more for MMY, which
> had nothing to do with anything.
> 
>   I remember when
> > I first started posting on AMT I used maharishi with a small M in
> > defiance.  After a while it just felt stupid.  I tried using the
> > presses version "The Maharishi", but after a while is seemed petty. 
> > So I am cool with MMY and it doesn't throw out an unnecessary FU to
> > the people who still value him.  It is sometimes hard to balance my
> > desire to be true to my perspective and not be rude to people who
> > don't share my view.  It is a work in progress but this time around 
> I
> > feel I am striking a better balance.  The disrespect issue is a
> > distraction to my real point which is that he is wrong.
> 
> Well, obviously you don't respect him *because* you
> think he's wrong.
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  
> wrote:
> >
> 
> > As you can see, a lot of people are snoozing this morning -- as
> > markets decline.
> 
> Actually the Dow went up this a.m., didn't start going
> down again until this afternoon. As of this moment
> (3:14 EST), it's lost all the gains (80-some points).
> 
> According to AP:
> 
> "Robust earnings growth at major oil companies lifted stocks 
through 
> most of the session, with Exxon Mobil Corp. posting the second-
> highest profit ever reported by a public U.S. company and Royal 
Dutch 
> Shell PLC seeing a 40 percent jump in its income.
> 
> "But the market returned to its recent trend of erratic trading as 
> traders grew anxious about the Commerce Department's GDP reading on 
> Friday. Stronger-than-expected economic growth could prompt the 
> Federal Reserve to keep raising interest rates, while a number 
below 
> forecasts could mean the economy is slowing quicker than expected; 
> the uncertainty prompted investors to pull out of stocks."
> 
> You might also want to keep track of market analysis
> from news reports.  If forecasts turn out to be on
> target tomorrow, stocks should go up again.

Meant to add: But these numbers will represent what
was going on with the economy well before the course
started.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Lebanon, MMY, TMO and Fairfield Life..

2006-07-27 Thread Bhairitu
I still think you need more of the populace just practicing meditation.  
Make meditation courses cheap and then the atmosphere will soften more.  
It would also improve the yagya like effect of the group gatherings.

However the practice of shanti or shiva mantras would probably create a 
more peaceful atmosphere than shakti mantras.


claudiouk wrote:

>Have not had time to check postings here but need to express my 
>alarm and concern at what is happening over there and how EASILY it 
>could escalate and bring a Baghdad-like scenario to many areas of 
>the world. Several years ago, when still a "believer" of MMY & the 
>yogic flying social effect, I highlighted the need to concentrate 
>Movement resources on certain key projects - my priority was 
>establishing a permanent "invincibility" group in Lebanon or Israel. 
>This area was the open wound in the world where most of the threats 
>to world peace emmaneted from. Given that Raja Ram was himself 
>Lebanese I thought naively that MMY would be persuaded to focus 
>resources in this region - and given the population sizes involved 
>it seemed a very feasible objective. I wonder now whether all this 
>talk of invincibility is just a pipedream anyway, but if it isn't 
>what a trajedy, what short-sightedness, blindness, STUPIDITY we have 
>witnessed from the TMO in its dealings with this region. There are 
>about 7 million Israelis - a group of 250 would have been sufficient 
>to shepherd the country's tendencies towards less belligerent lines -
>and would have avoided the chaos for the world that now is being 
>unleashed. Instead we have had 50 years languishing in the 
>wilderness of indecision, chasing hopeless mirages and getting 
>precisely NOWHERE in realising the potentialities of this knowledge. 
>Yet again a TMO project - now invincible Holland - turns out to be 
>too little too late and in the wrong geographic orientation anyway. 
>What were those astrologers advising MMY doing anyway, not seeing 
>danger signs on the horizon which anyone with common sense could 
>easily have forseen. MMY and the TMO made a big deal about their 
>ideas being reported in the Jerusalem Post recently but we all know  
>this really amounts to a complete FAILURE of vision and leadership. 
>I do hope there are people in this forum that share my 
>disappointment. It will be my last posting otherwise
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  wrote:
> > >
> > > I created a blog to track th "effects". As stated on the blog 
> > > banner, 
> > > 
> > > "[This is an ]Exploratory analysis of Maharishi / Coherence Effects
> > > from 2006 Summer US Course. This is a weak test in that it provides 
> > > of
> > > only one "dose/intervention" and thus will not result conclusive
> > > findings. But it may provide insight for more comprehensive studies
> > > examining 10-20+ dose/interventions across different time periods 
> > > and geographic areas."
> > > 
> > > I will add gold, oil and the dollar later.
> > > 
> > > Chronologically, the posts begin at the bottom of the blog. Current
> > > posts are first (highest).
> > > 
> > > Click on the graph to get a larger view.
> > > 
> > > http://2006-course-effects.blogspot.com/
> > 
> > Very nice.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> As you can see, a lot of people are snoozing this morning -- as
> markets decline. Perhaps due to lots of new arrivals and travel
fatigue. 
> 
> Or perhaps due to what I like to call the "Barry effect". In 
> the course environment, lots of people are seeing old friends, 
> making new friends, etc, and subsequently, there is lots of um, 
> "embracing", into the wee hours of the night.

Hey! Watch that appropriating my name for your 
theory stuff! You're getting into tricky legal
and ethical territory...doncha remember how Carl 
Sagan went ballistic when Apple named one of their 
projects after him? He threatened to sue. 

I checked with my attorney and he has received 
no request from any scientific organization for 
the rights to use my name for any new scientific
theory, and so I must fall back on the promptings
of ethics and tell you that you can use it only
if it'll get me laid.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>

> As you can see, a lot of people are snoozing this morning -- as
> markets decline.

Actually the Dow went up this a.m., didn't start going
down again until this afternoon. As of this moment
(3:14 EST), it's lost all the gains (80-some points).

According to AP:

"Robust earnings growth at major oil companies lifted stocks through 
most of the session, with Exxon Mobil Corp. posting the second-
highest profit ever reported by a public U.S. company and Royal Dutch 
Shell PLC seeing a 40 percent jump in its income.

"But the market returned to its recent trend of erratic trading as 
traders grew anxious about the Commerce Department's GDP reading on 
Friday. Stronger-than-expected economic growth could prompt the 
Federal Reserve to keep raising interest rates, while a number below 
forecasts could mean the economy is slowing quicker than expected; 
the uncertainty prompted investors to pull out of stocks."

You might also want to keep track of market analysis
from news reports.  If forecasts turn out to be on
target tomorrow, stocks should go up again.







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[FairfieldLife] Dean says Iraqi president is Anti Semitic

2006-07-27 Thread MDixon6569





Associated 
Press Pop-up Link Howard Dean needs to choose his words a little more 
carefully. Hebrews aren't the only Semitic people, Arabs are also 
semites.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That's pretty impressive.  Very nice job.

Thanks. 

I sent the link and sort blurb to John Halelin via his web site. 
It will be interesting if he responds. 

Maybe we will see headlines "Huge drop in gambling stocks attributed
to ME Courese effects by securities analysts" haha.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Lebanon, MMY, TMO and Fairfield Life..

2006-07-27 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/27/06 1:41:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Have not had time to check postings here but need to express my alarm 
  and concern at what is happening over there and how EASILY it could 
  escalate and bring a Baghdad-like scenario to many areas of the world. 
  Several years ago, when still a "believer" of MMY & the yogic flying 
  social effect, I highlighted the need to concentrate Movement resources on 
  certain key projects - my priority was establishing a permanent 
  "invincibility" group in Lebanon or Israel. This area was the open wound 
  in the world where most of the threats to world peace emmaneted from. 
  Given that Raja Ram was himself Lebanese I thought naively that MMY would 
  be persuaded to focus resources in this region - and given the population 
  sizes involved it seemed a very feasible objective. I wonder now whether 
  all this talk of invincibility is just a pipedream anyway, but if it isn't 
  what a trajedy, what short-sightedness, blindness, STUPIDITY we have 
  witnessed from the TMO in its dealings with this region. There are 
  about 7 million Israelis - a group of 250 would have been sufficient 
  to shepherd the country's tendencies towards less belligerent lines 
  -and would have avoided the chaos for the world that now is being 
  unleashed. Instead we have had 50 years languishing in the wilderness 
  of indecision, chasing hopeless mirages and getting precisely NOWHERE in 
  realising the potentialities of this knowledge. Yet again a TMO project - 
  now invincible Holland - turns out to be too little too late and in the 
  wrong geographic orientation anyway. What were those astrologers advising 
  MMY doing anyway, not seeing danger signs on the horizon which anyone with 
  common sense could easily have forseen. MMY and the TMO made a big deal 
  about their ideas being reported in the Jerusalem Post recently but we all 
  know this really amounts to a complete FAILURE of vision and leadership. 
  I do hope there are people in this forum that share my disappointment. 
  It will be my last posting 
otherwise

I pretty much agree here. Seeing as how the conflict in Israel seems to be 
the source of much of what is going on in the world in terms of violence, why 
hasn't M set up a group in Israel a long time ago. Fear it won't work or maybe 
fear for the safety of the sidhas is the only reason I can imagine. If it does 
work there should be no fear for the safety of a group of sidhas. What would it 
cost to rotate in a thousand sidhas on a regular basis to the area especially if 
there was a course fee? And if they could prove it worked beyond a reasonable 
doubt, somebody could be convinced to finance it 
indefinately.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread authfriend
That's pretty impressive.  Very nice job.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I created a blog to track th "effects". As stated on the blog 
banner, 
> 
> "[This is an ]Exploratory analysis of Maharishi / Coherence Effects
> from 2006 Summer US Course. This is a weak test in that it provides 
of
> only one "dose/intervention" and thus will not result conclusive
> findings. But it may provide insight for more comprehensive studies
> examining 10-20+ dose/interventions across different time periods 
and
> geographic areas."
> 
> I will add gold, oil and the dollar later.
> 
> Chronologically, the posts begin at the bottom of the blog. Current
> posts are first (highest).
> 
> Click on the graph to get a larger view.
> 
> http://2006-course-effects.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- curtisdeltablues 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Stock Market Continues to Climb During Second Day of
> > > Invincible
> > > America Course
> > > 
> > > "Watch What Happens Tomorrow"
> > > 
> > > Wall Street continued its unexpected climb
> > > yesterday, gaining 53
> > > points following Monday's dramatic spike, while the
> > > price of gold and
> > > crude oil dropped markedly during the second day of
> > > the "Invincible
> > > America Course" now being held in Washington , D.C.
> > > , and Iowa .
> > > Nearly 1200 coherence-creating experts have gathered
> > > to practice Yogic
> > > Flying together in large groups to create coherent
> > > collective
> > > consciousness--the basis of prosperity, harmony, and
> > > invincibility for
> > > the nation. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Wow!  I am having a freak'n flashback.  They are
> > > still running this
> > > number?  Not the Age of Enlightenment news again!
> > > When it goes up,
> > > report it, when it goes down ignore it. I can't
> > > believe this claim
> > > still works on adults.
> > 
> > It is amazing, isn't it?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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[FairfieldLife] Ganapati Muni (was: Maharishi Mahesh Bhogi)

2006-07-27 Thread t3rinity



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:> >> > > > On Jul 26, 2006, at 7:23 PM, t3rinity wrote:> > > No tradition or commitee. Shri Kvya Kantha Ganapati Muni  was a> > > remarkeable young pundit, poet, vedic scholar, and one of the early> > > disciples of RM. One of the early books on Ramana, the Ramana Gita was> > > composed by him.In graditute of finding his master, he composed the> > > Uma Sahasranam, the thousand verses to the Divine Mother. As a wor-> > > shipper of the Divine Mother, he was a tantric. And he believed Ramana> > > to be an Avatar of Kartikeya.> > > >   Wow. Thanks Trin. Very, very cool.> > I belive that David Frawley's work is to carry on the wisdom of Ganapati Muni.

Are they connected in any way? One of the direct disciples and scholars of Nayana (as he was also called) was Kapali Shastri, who in a way represents a connection between Ramana and Aurobindo - he was fisrt a disciple of Ramana, but then migrated to Aurobindo and Sweet Mother. Again his disciple was M.P.Pundit. who was a close disciple of the Mother and wrote innumerable good books on Tantra and related stuff. There is now a Kapali Shastri Institute of Vedic Culture in
Bangalore, which is mainly committed in bringing out new translations
of the Vedas in the light of an evolutionary, esoteric understanding.
My personal interest to all this stems from a life-transforming experience , I had exactly one year before meeting Mother Meera, more than 20 years back, when I got hooked up to the Divine Mother:

 The original work is called Uma Sahasranam, which
means thousand names of the Mother Divine. Ganapathi Muni was a
tantric, and adorer of the Divine Mother, and the work was intended to
be his thank you to the Divine Mother - UMA - for finding his Guru
Ramana. He had made a pledge to finish off the whole work up to a
certain time, but found that a significant number of verses had to be
still done. As he was in Ramanas presence he suddenly felt a strong
inspiration and the remaining verses flowed out effortlessly. Ramana
sat in Samadhi, his eyes closed. After Muni had finished the last verse
Ramana opened his eyes and asked: Did you write everything down? (that
was transmitted). I must also say that I would not have understood (if
that is the right term, as it is more intuitional knowledge) anything
without the comments of Pundit. The whole thing happened for me, one
year before I met Mother. In the experience, I was drawn to the book
and felt an electric current. After a nights sleep while waking up I
had a vision of the Divine Mother in the form of a golden spiral, and
felt an unmistaken female Divine Presence in my room. The effects of
the experience was felt for several days. Kapali Shastris collected
works contain reminiscences of his experience with the Mother as well
as with Ramana, his works on the Vedas and the Tantras, in the light of Sri Aurobindos philosophy.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  wrote:
> >
> > I created a blog to track th "effects". As stated on the blog 
> > banner, 
> > 
> > "[This is an ]Exploratory analysis of Maharishi / Coherence Effects
> > from 2006 Summer US Course. This is a weak test in that it provides 
> > of
> > only one "dose/intervention" and thus will not result conclusive
> > findings. But it may provide insight for more comprehensive studies
> > examining 10-20+ dose/interventions across different time periods 
> > and geographic areas."
> > 
> > I will add gold, oil and the dollar later.
> > 
> > Chronologically, the posts begin at the bottom of the blog. Current
> > posts are first (highest).
> > 
> > Click on the graph to get a larger view.
> > 
> > http://2006-course-effects.blogspot.com/
> 
> Very nice.

Thanks.

As you can see, a lot of people are snoozing this morning -- as
markets decline. Perhaps due to lots of new arrivals and travel fatigue. 

Or perhaps due to what I like to call the "Barry effect". In the
course environment, lots of people are seeing old friends, making new
friends, etc, and subsequently, there is lots of um, "embracing", into
the wee hours of the night.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestine

2006-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 7/27/06 12:36:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> I know  two lesibans who both converted because the rabbi said he 
> would 
> >  perform a 
> > traditional temple wedding for them if they did.
> >  
> > > I'm sure that is a common occurance.
> 
> I rather doubt it.  And it would be possible only in
> very liberal Reform (or perhaps  Reconstructionist)
> temples. The conversion wouldn't be considered  valid
> by either Conservative or Orthodox  Judaism.
> 
> Aw com'on Judy you had to know I was being fasicious! LOL

Oops, sorry, no, I didn't.

Were you kidding when you said you didn't think
many people converted to Judaism except if they
married a Jew?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread Paul Mason
The guestimation that the Tat Wale Baba cave is about a kilometer from 
Shankaracharya Nagar is not far exaggerated, whereas, according to the 
map, Parmath Niketan is just a little further than a kilometer.

In 1969 the nearest buildings to Shankaracharya Nagar (Maharishi 
Ashram) were Parmath Niketan (an ashram on the waterfront in 
Swargashram), and the then disused Kailashanand Nature Cure Centre, 
(which is just a few minutes walk along the track from Tat Wale Baba's 
cave). According to the government map the distance from Shankaracharya 
Nagar to Parmath Niketan is further than the distance to Kailashanand, 
therefore the cave that Tat Wale Baba dwelt in is the closest dwelling 
to Maharishi Ashram.

I have omitted mention of Ved Niketan Ashram as at the time it was only 
in the early stages of construction and I have also omitted mention of 
the tiny caves at the foot of Shankaracharya hill as the caves had no 
permanent inhabitants to the best of my knowledge.
In the space between Parmath Niketan and Ved Niketan was a cowshed on 
the sandbank.

I concede that it is possible that there were others living in the 
jungle somewhat higher up (towards Neelkanth Mahadev the temple to Lord 
Shiva; neelkanth = blue throat) which is several hours walk away. 
Though local gossip had it that there was an Austrian living somewhere 
high in the hills. The majority of recluses lived about two kilometers 
or more from Shankaracharya Nagar, mainly along the waterfront between 
Swargashram and Lakshman Jhoola. It was here that Swami Sivanand 
Saraswati first stayed before building his ashram on the Rishikesh side.

In conclusion, it appears that Tat Wale Baba was invited to visit the 
ashram because it was convenient. He appears to have got on well with 
MMY and impressed the course participants with his spiruality. However, 
as has been suggested in subsequent posts there is some doubt that the 
friendship remained strong.

My concern is that one should not make too much milage of these casual 
appearances of Tat Wale Baba at MMY's ashram.






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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason"  
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> >
> > I know you are joking but I am lucky enough to have a 1:20,000 
guide 
> > map of Rishikesh which includes a map of 'Rishikesh neighbourhood' 
> > right here; I would scan the relevant section but it says on it 
> > that 'This map is NOT to be published, copied or reproduced in part 
> > or inwhole eithr by photography or my any other means, should be 
kept 
> > in safe custody and handled by authorised persons only.'
> 
> So how far away is the cave? Surely you can answer the question...
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I created a blog to track th "effects". As stated on the blog 
> banner, 
> 
> "[This is an ]Exploratory analysis of Maharishi / Coherence Effects
> from 2006 Summer US Course. This is a weak test in that it provides 
> of
> only one "dose/intervention" and thus will not result conclusive
> findings. But it may provide insight for more comprehensive studies
> examining 10-20+ dose/interventions across different time periods 
> and geographic areas."
> 
> I will add gold, oil and the dollar later.
> 
> Chronologically, the posts begin at the bottom of the blog. Current
> posts are first (highest).
> 
> Click on the graph to get a larger view.
> 
> http://2006-course-effects.blogspot.com/

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "We're going to shoot anything we see."

2006-07-27 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/27/06 1:13:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This 
  seems to contradict what I heard last night. That Israeli's are having 
  > a hard time because Hezbollah is fighting from houses filled with 
  families, > women and children. You know, human 
  shields.>They don't count. Seriously, I doubt if anyone 
  has any idea what is going on over there. Even the people involved in 
  pulling the trigger only can see what is going on in front of them, and the 
  situation 50 yards away is quite possibly completely 
  different."Chaos" comes to mind...

No, I listened to an Israeli soldier last night being interviewed and he 
said the fighting was house to house and they would see guns fired from windows 
in  houses and when they got to the houses and entered they  were full 
of women and children.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Numbers Near 2000!

2006-07-27 Thread new . morning
I created a blog to track th "effects". As stated on the blog banner, 

"[This is an ]Exploratory analysis of Maharishi / Coherence Effects
from 2006 Summer US Course. This is a weak test in that it provides of
only one "dose/intervention" and thus will not result conclusive
findings. But it may provide insight for more comprehensive studies
examining 10-20+ dose/interventions across different time periods and
geographic areas."

I will add gold, oil and the dollar later.

Chronologically, the posts begin at the bottom of the blog. Current
posts are first (highest).

Click on the graph to get a larger view.

http://2006-course-effects.blogspot.com/


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> 
> --- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Stock Market Continues to Climb During Second Day of
> > Invincible
> > America Course
> > 
> > "Watch What Happens Tomorrow"
> > 
> > Wall Street continued its unexpected climb
> > yesterday, gaining 53
> > points following Monday's dramatic spike, while the
> > price of gold and
> > crude oil dropped markedly during the second day of
> > the "Invincible
> > America Course" now being held in Washington , D.C.
> > , and Iowa .
> > Nearly 1200 coherence-creating experts have gathered
> > to practice Yogic
> > Flying together in large groups to create coherent
> > collective
> > consciousness--the basis of prosperity, harmony, and
> > invincibility for
> > the nation. 
> > 
> > 
> > Wow!  I am having a freak'n flashback.  They are
> > still running this
> > number?  Not the Age of Enlightenment news again!
> > When it goes up,
> > report it, when it goes down ignore it. I can't
> > believe this claim
> > still works on adults.
> 
> It is amazing, isn't it?
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palestine

2006-07-27 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/27/06 12:36:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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I know 
  two lesibans who both converted because the rabbi said he would > 
  perform a > traditional temple wedding for them if they did.> 
  > > I'm sure that is a common occurance.I rather doubt it. 
  And it would be possible only invery liberal Reform (or perhaps 
  Reconstructionist)temples. The conversion wouldn't be considered 
  validby either Conservative or Orthodox 
Judaism.

Aw com'on Judy you had to know I was being fasicious! LOL    

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I met a couple of guys who had a similar attitude towards my 
> initiator when he summoned them to Maharishi Ashram. Same superiority 
> kick, not everyone likes that kind of stuff. 
> 
> But I have to thank my teacher of TM who warned me not to get put off 
> my practice by what I might read that MMY had said, or not to get put 
> off TM by other meditators. But for that advice I'd have trashed the 
> whole thing long long ago.
> 
> Let's face it MMY does come on very superior doesn't he, he made a 
> habit out of cutting off other people's heads to stand a little 
> higher himself. I remember listening to him talking about Aldous 
> Huxley, 'just a writer not a thinker' 
> Oh, r-i-g-h-t!
> 

Had he ever read anything by the guy?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jul 27, 2006, at 1:58 PM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 27, 2006, at 11:52 AM, nablus108 wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> To launch into a close description of the local geography
> >>
> >>
> >>> whilst
> >>>
> >>>
> >> posting a brief note on FFL would have been unnecessary,
> >> so 'across the way' sufficed to make my point. The area around
> >> the back of the ashram was very heavily forested then and so
> >>
> >>
> >>> you
> >>>
> >>>
> >> were probably taken a longer easier way round. But to walk
> >> directly one would pass no other cave and that is the issue,
> >>
> >>
> >>> that
> >>>
> >>>
> >> in relative terms, Tat Wale Baba was probably the closest
> >>
> >>
>  Aside from the ridiculousness of the assertion that
>  "we" have never questioned MMY's name and its origin,
>  the "heresy" on this point concerns Vaj's scornful
>  dismissal of the significance of Tat Walla Baba's
>  apparent endorsement of MMY on the grounds that he was
>  a "neighbor" of MMY's and thus (if I'm following Vaj's
>  reasoning) would be expected to be friendly with him.
> 
>  Paul confirmed this, and then someone questioned
>  whether Tat Walla Baba's ashram was close enough to
>  MMY's to say he was a "neighbor." That's a valid issue,
>  given that Vaj had dismissed Tat Walla Baba's approval
>  of MMY on precisely that basis.  But that's shooting
>  the *message*, not the messenger.  As it turns out,
>  the shot seems to have missed the target, so we can
>  set it aside.
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>> Thats right. This Mason fellow still insists that Tat Wale Baba's
> >>> cave, 1 kilometer away, was closer than Swargashram a couple of
> >>> hundred meters away. What his agenda is trying to bend everything in
> >>> a negative direction against Maharishi beats me.
> >>>
> >>
> >> It's possible that Swargashram did not have anyone perceived as
> >> highly as Tat Whale Baba was for M. to show off to his students.
> >>
> >> Or maybe they couldn't be bought and TWB could.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Ah, so the guy in loincloth living in a cave could be bought, while  
> > the guy living in the
> > ashram couldn't be? You don't have a bias, Vaj...
> 
> What "guy in the ashram"?

The one who couldn't be bought...

> It's funny how you belabor a point to avoid   the obvious.
>

I think you used the second person pronoun when you meant to use the first. 
Should 
actually read:

 "It's funny how I belabor a point to avoid   the obvious." -Vaj





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[FairfieldLife] Lebanon, MMY, TMO and Fairfield Life..

2006-07-27 Thread claudiouk
Have not had time to check postings here but need to express my 
alarm and concern at what is happening over there and how EASILY it 
could escalate and bring a Baghdad-like scenario to many areas of 
the world. Several years ago, when still a "believer" of MMY & the 
yogic flying social effect, I highlighted the need to concentrate 
Movement resources on certain key projects - my priority was 
establishing a permanent "invincibility" group in Lebanon or Israel. 
This area was the open wound in the world where most of the threats 
to world peace emmaneted from. Given that Raja Ram was himself 
Lebanese I thought naively that MMY would be persuaded to focus 
resources in this region - and given the population sizes involved 
it seemed a very feasible objective. I wonder now whether all this 
talk of invincibility is just a pipedream anyway, but if it isn't 
what a trajedy, what short-sightedness, blindness, STUPIDITY we have 
witnessed from the TMO in its dealings with this region. There are 
about 7 million Israelis - a group of 250 would have been sufficient 
to shepherd the country's tendencies towards less belligerent lines -
and would have avoided the chaos for the world that now is being 
unleashed. Instead we have had 50 years languishing in the 
wilderness of indecision, chasing hopeless mirages and getting 
precisely NOWHERE in realising the potentialities of this knowledge. 
Yet again a TMO project - now invincible Holland - turns out to be 
too little too late and in the wrong geographic orientation anyway. 
What were those astrologers advising MMY doing anyway, not seeing 
danger signs on the horizon which anyone with common sense could 
easily have forseen. MMY and the TMO made a big deal about their 
ideas being reported in the Jerusalem Post recently but we all know  
this really amounts to a complete FAILURE of vision and leadership. 
I do hope there are people in this forum that share my 
disappointment. It will be my last posting otherwise






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-07-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jul 27, 2006, at 12:43 PM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 27, 2006, at 9:05 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I heard two stories from a teacher who had spent time with MMY in
> >>> India.  Perhaps someone here can verify.  The first is that towards
> >>> the end Tat Wale Baba had tired of MMY summoning him.  The poor old
> >>> guy had cataracts.  The last time this guy had been dispatched by  
> >>> MMY
> >>> to ask Tat to come down and visit MMY,  he responded "Tell Maharishi
> >>> to come to me if he wants to see me".   His read was that Tat had
> >>> tired of the implied superiority in MMY summoning him.  After that
> >>> there was not a warm relationship with MMY. Having seen MMY pull
> >>> one-up-manship games with Trighuna in India firsthand, I find it
> >>> credible.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for the story on TWB and Mahesh, it rings true.
> >>
> >
> > So TWB calls him "Maharishi" and you call him "Mahesh?"
> 
> Well, to his face anyways.  Who knows what he called him after TWB  
> got sick of him.
>

The story says he told the messenger to tell "Maharishi."






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