[FairfieldLife] Re: Remember the Coalition of the Willing in Iraq?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 5, 2006, at 8:00 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Original levels of the Coalition of the willing in 2003 were ~50,000 troops. Current levels are as follows: 1 United Kingdom 7,200 2 South Korea ~3,000 (~2,000 by end of 2006) 3 Italy 1,785 (0 by Dec. 2006) 4 Australia 1,400 5 Poland 900 (0 by end of 2006) 6 Romania 865 7 Denmark 515 8 El Salvador 380 9 Georgia 300 10 Azerbaijan 150 11 Bulgaria ~150 12 Latvia 136 13 Mongolia 131 14 Albania 120 15 Slovakia 104 16 Czech Republic 100 17 Lithuania ~50 18 Armenia 46 I knew we could count on Armenia for something besides rugs. All 46 Armenian troops in Iraq *ARE* rug dealers. They're investigating the feasibility of using rugs instead of those expensive body bags... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pulling your plonk in Iran
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I've injected some humor into this article I must admit that there is probably some spiritual basis for the edict. It has been my experience that when I retain semen my experiences during meditation are that much more profound... What do you keep it in when you retain it? Do you find that a standard mason jar works, or do you need an insultated thermos jug to insure more profound experiences in meditation? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: They who bear cruelty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A kind Providence has placed in our breasts a hatred of the unjust and cruel, in order that we may preserve ourselves from cruelty and injustice. They who bear cruelty, are accomplices in it. The pretended gentleness which excludes that charitable rancour, produces an indifference which is half an approbation. They never will love where they ought to love, who do not hate where they ought to hate. --Edmund Burke, Letters on a Regicide Peace Ought to hate? Seems to me that -- once again -- you're quoting some authority who has told you not only that it's *OK* to hate, but who *TO* hate. Thank you for sharing with us the influences that made you what you are, but no thanks... You know you've created God in your own image when he hates the exact same people that you do. -- Gordon Charrick To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
I got to thinking about this while wandering around in Dublin with a brother who tends to be a tad...uh...reactionary when the essential goodness of America is questioned. :-) He kept quoting the political messages and slogans he believes in, and that tend to shape his reaction to world events. Me, I had just finished reading some Tibetan texts that spoke of the inevitable karmic effects of indulging in certain emotions. The theory was that, no matter what the cause, the *karma* of choosing to wear certain emotions is predictable, a Done Deal. That is, indulge in anger, and the outcome of wearing the mindset of anger is predictable (and not positive), *no matter what caused the anger*. Same with hatred, to an even greater degree. Same with fear or self- pity -- those who indulge in that mindstate reap the...uh...benefits of seeing the world through fear-colored or poor me-colored glasses. As opposed to the emotions that the Tibetans feel have a positive effect -- for the world and for the person wearing them. Love, joy, a sense of hope, caring for and taking care of one's fellow man, the desire to *give* to the world (as opposed to *take* from it), that sorta thang. So I came up with my own half-assed theory of how to tell what the real *intent* was behind any political post on the Internet or what the real *intent* was behind any political speech or ad. It's pretty simple -- just determine the EMOTION that the post or speech or ad is appealing to. What emotion does the speaker want you to FEEL after reading or hearing it? I highly recommend it as an exercise in seeing. Just read some of the posts here, or the speeches being tossed around in the political arena, and *especially* the carefully-crafted ads that appear during election time. If you sit back and determine that the poster/ speaker wants you to feel outraged and angry when you read/hear what they post, then their *intent* is clear, and to some extent the inevitable karma of their approach is equally clear. Anger begets more anger; chances are that the person who appeals to this emotion is *comfortable* being angry, and thus *intends* others to be...and stay...as angry as he is. Same with hatred, but to an even greater degree -- those who find it easy to hate tend to cast their speech in terms of justified hatred. And the easiest of all messages to suss out are those that appeal to fear; it's pretty clear that the speaker wants you to *feel* fear after hearing the message. Such people are comfortable living in fear, and they want others to live there, too, because a fearful people are an easily-controlled people. And, once you've developed this trick of viewing the political rhetoric of the world in terms of what EMOTION it appeals to, notice how *rare* it is that anyone appeals to the higher emotions -- joy, love, caring for one's fellow man, etc. To his credit, Maharishi sometimes does this, although he tends to muddy the message up with appeals to fear and self importance a lot. But most of the other pundits of the world seem to have settled for appeals to righteous anger or downright hatred and most often fear in their attempts to reach the people and inspire them to do what the pundits want them to do. Me, I'm waiting for someone -- anyone -- who can cast his political message in terms of a positive message, and who rises above the easy path of casting it in a negative light. It's *easy* (and *lazy*) to present one's political solution in terms of the bad guys and try to stir up anger and/or hatred against them. But if you look at history, these types of people rarely have anything positive of their own to contribute once they've gotten rid of the bad guys. IMO, it's because they've given little to no thought to what it means to be a good guy, and to actually have some positive solutions. It's *easy* to blame, and so these lazy fucks just blame. They *need* the bad guys, because they have no real positive ideas of their own to present. I'm waiting for the politician, whatever their party affiliation, who seems to remember that there *is* such a thing as positivity, and who casts his or her speech in a positive light, appealing to the positive and life-supporting emotions of the public he/she claims to want to help. Unfortunately, it looks as if I may have to wait a long time... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
[FairfieldLife] TMers fight Kansas town in war for souls
Smith County won't block 'peace palaces' The Wichita Eagle / Associated Press http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/state/15692067.htm SMITH CENTER - The Smith County Commission has backed off a plan to keep the Global Country of World Peace from building a dozen marble peace palaces on prime farmland near the geographic center of the lower 48 states. The organization, affiliated with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and his Transcendental Meditation movement, bought large tracts of land in Smith County earlier this year, causing some residents to be upset over the idea. The three-member commission earlier this week repealed a measure that had prevented the change in land use from agricultural until the county zoning regulations were completed. The moratorium passed this summer was designed to preserve the status quo while it could be determined whether zoning regulations could be used to prevent the Global Country of World Peace from using land for the purposes announced by such organization, according to the resolution repealing it. There are no zoning regulations in the rural county area, although a planning commission is studying the idea. Most of rural Smith County is used for farming wheat and corn or as livestock pastures. County Attorney Allen Shelton said Thursday that the commission passed the moratorium to see if zoning could be used to keep the TMers out. He said the repeal came after the commission was told the peace group planned to file a federal lawsuit, claiming violation of its civil rights. Shelton said the group likely would have prevailed. The reason they urged the moratorium is they didn't want the Transcendental Meditation people to locate here, Shelton said. You couldn't use zoning to exclude people for their beliefs. It's hard to think of a reason for not having an education center in the middle of the county. But Commissioner Arthur Kuhlmann said it's not over. We lost this battle, but we're still hoping to win the war, he said. Shelton said the planning commission will continue working on recommendations that eventually could evolve into county zoning. Altogether, the Maharishi wants to build 2,400 peace palaces in 250 U.S. cities. The TM movement began in the 1950s and traces its roots to India. Practitioners repeat a thought -- a mantra -- over and over to achieve relaxation, typically for 15 to 20 minutes every morning and evening. Supporters say TM is a technique, not a religion. But several local pastors earlier this year signed a letter to a local newspaper saying: They are welcome, but they must understand we are competing for the eternal souls of people. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Smoking Pot Good For Boomers, study suggests'
Marijuana may help stave off Alzheimers Active ingredient in pot may help preserve brain function Updated: 3:31 p.m. CT Oct 5, 2006WASHINGTON - Good news for aging hippies: smoking pot may stave off Alzheimers disease.New research shows that the active ingredient in marijuana may prevent the progression of the disease by preserving levels of an important neurotransmitter that allows the brain to function.Researchers at the Scripps Research Institute in California found that marijuanas active ingredient, delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, can prevent the neurotransmitter acetylcholine from breaking down more effectively than commercially marketed drugs.Story continues below advertisement amp;lt;script language="_javascript_" type="text/_javascript_"amp;gt;document.write('amp;lt;a href="" target="_blank"amp;gt;amp;lt;img src="" /amp;gt;amp;lt;/aamp;gt;'); amp;lt;/scriptamp;gt;THC is also more
effective at blocking clumps of protein that can inhibit memory and cognition in Alzheimers patients, the researchers reported in the journal Molecular Pharmaceutics.The researchers said their discovery could lead to more effective drug treatment for Alzheimers, the leading cause of dementia among the elderly.Those afflicted with Alzheimers suffer from memory loss, impaired decision-making, and diminished language and movement skills. The ultimate cause of the disease is unknown, though it is believed to be hereditary.Marijuana is used to relieve glaucoma and can help reduce side effects from cancer and AIDS treatment.
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[FairfieldLife] 'Various Hebrew Herbal Blessings...'
Blessed be You, O God our God, Kind of the Universe, Who has created the fragrant herbs.'Blessed be You, O God our God, King of the Universe, Who has given a pleasant scent to fruits.'Blessed be You, O God our God, King of the Universe, Who has created fragrant oil.''Blessed be You, O God our God, King of the Universe, Who has created various kinds of spices.(These Blessings to be recited on witnessing natural phenomena or unusual sights, and on various occasions and events):On seeing lightning, shooting stars, sheet-lightening, great deserts or high mountains, or on witnessing a sunrise:Blessed be You, O God our God, King of he Universe, Who created the work of the Beginning.' Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'TMers Win 1st Battle In Oz (Kansas)...' The Associated P...
In a message dated 10/5/06 9:51:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kansas county backs off plan for moratorium aimed at "peace palaces"The Associated PressPublished: October 5, 2006SMITH CENTER, Kansas A rural Kansas county has backed off a plan to keep an affilaite of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and his Transcendental Meditation movement from building a dozen marble "peace palaces" on prime farmland near the geographic center of the lower 48 continantal U.S. states. Obviously they need a better strategy. Surround the community with cemeteries, a slaughter house, pig farms and maybe build a lake to the west of the TMO property. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cost of our programs, money, and the real goal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dean Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This post is so good that I could not resist posting it again. :-) Dear Rick and Fairfield Lifers, When I started TM in 1970, I paid $75 to learn. It is estimated that prices for many things have almost doubled every decade. In 1970, gasoline cost .29/gallon; today it costs 1.69/gallon, an increase of 582%. In 1970, a new mid-sized Ford with a big engine cost $2500; today it costs $15,000, an increase of 600%. Applying that same percentage factor, $75 TM should cost $450 today, simply based on inflation. Today, TM costs $2500, about 5.55 times that $450. Like shempmcgurk, I too feel that I would have paid a huge amount had I known how effectively the TM program would have brought me back home to my goal. Please be careful in your assumptions here: I'm not talking based on some true belief or some faith in what the future might bring; I'm talking based on my own simple direct personal experience. The time/money/energy that I invested in the TM program was far and away the best investment I've ever made. It's made this life worthwhile. I appreciate that some of you don't feel that way - some feel disappointed, tricked, abused, misled - and I'm sincerely and deeply sorry that you've found yourself on a different road. And you probably couldn't have paid that, or $2500, even if you had known that. Even knowing as little as I did before I started, I came up with $75 - which is equivalent to $450 today. Back then, would I have come up with 5.55 times more (or $417) - which is the equivalent of $2500 today? After really letting myself get back into the feelings that I had back then, I say yes - I would have. Certainly because of the greater amount of money involved, I would have slowed down, thought more deeply about my decision, weighed it as more than the cheap lark that I saw it as, but as drawn as I was to have that inner stability and peace that I saw in the TM lecturer, I would have paid the $417. That was 5% of a year's income in 1970 - about 2.5 weeks' wages. It was 17% of the cost of a new car. In my life, a lot of income and a lot of cars have come and gone since then - and a lot of money's been foolishly spent on things that have disappeared or were a mistake to begin with - but what the TM program delivered me to, the Self, goes on forever. In fact, thinking back over those days when I was initiat- ed, I would actually have taken the 3-days checking and the regular practice of TM thereafter a lot more seriously if I hadn't thought that it was such a cheap bargain at $75. Today, based on what TM brought me, $2500 is a steal. But I am realis- tic, and I understand through direct personal experiences with friends and counseling clients over these past years that many people don't see that value at first, and that $2500 is a very significant, often daunt- ing, obstacle in some peoples' minds. It is daunting for me to tell people $2500, especially when I assume that they're not serious spir- itual seekers - but merely looking for some relative benefit (like re- ducing their stress level or improving their relationship or making school easier). So why does TM cost 5.55 times more today than it did back in 1970? And, as a corollary: is Maharishi a bumbling idiot about practical financial matters, or just overly greedy, or a brilliant seer of the future? I've thought back over many things I've heard from Maharishi over my years around him, and many things that I've recognized based on my own personal experience and understanding, and I'd like to share with you my take on the Movement and the $2500 TM course fees. This is my sub- jective opinion, seen through my history, colored by my consciousness and my issues; it is not presented as fact or truth. And since it is merely personal opinion, there is no need to engage in debate over the accuracy of my facts, because personal opinion is not based on fact. It's based on how our nervous system sees the world. We can all gather plenty of facts and/or quotes to bolster our opinion. This is simply offered as my world view - and perhaps you're a voyeur and would benefit from seeing the world through my eyes. I want to discuss the $2500 course fee on three levels (they get deeper as they progress, and all tie together, so please persevere): ANSWER #1 - THE SNOW PLOW EFFECT: My personal experience is that when I started to meditate in 1970, the going was tough. The collective consciousness of the world was thick...thick...thick. Meditations were boring. Rounding courses were tedious - they felt like hard work. I didn't have a clear inner experience of unbounded awareness till I'd gone through 2 1/2 years of meditation, 2 months of rounding at Humboldt, 10 weeks of long- rounding on TTC in La Antilla, and a week of silence
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tell Democrats that terrorists are gay Republicans...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Drudge is kinda the anti-Josh Micah Marshall http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com Who had this to report about the Drudge story: http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001739.php Earlier today, the Drudge Report published a story claiming that one batch of lewd IM transcripts published by ABC News were the result of a prank by a former House page. The former page, Drudge said, goaded Foley to type embarrassing comments, which he shared with friends. The story did not quote the young man, or say whether any attempt had been made to contact him or his lawyer. Now, the lawyer for the former page in question, 21-year-old Jordan Edmund, says the Drudge Report article is false. Calling the story a piece of fiction, Stephen Jones told the Daily Oklahoman that there is not any aspect of this matter that is a practical joke nor should anyone treat it that way. This afternoon, ABC News published news of three more former pages who had sexual online conversations with Foley similar to Edmund's. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] TMers fight Kansas town in war for souls
Well, thank God! Now we can have a dozen, empty marble palaces in the middle of Kansas. I feel better already. --- george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smith County won't block 'peace palaces' The Wichita Eagle / Associated Press http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/state/15692067.htm SMITH CENTER - The Smith County Commission has backed off a plan to keep the Global Country of World Peace from building a dozen marble peace palaces on prime farmland near the geographic center of the lower 48 states. The organization, affiliated with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and his Transcendental Meditation movement, bought large tracts of land in Smith County earlier this year, causing some residents to be upset over the idea. The three-member commission earlier this week repealed a measure that had prevented the change in land use from agricultural until the county zoning regulations were completed. The moratorium passed this summer was designed to preserve the status quo while it could be determined whether zoning regulations could be used to prevent the Global Country of World Peace from using land for the purposes announced by such organization, according to the resolution repealing it. There are no zoning regulations in the rural county area, although a planning commission is studying the idea. Most of rural Smith County is used for farming wheat and corn or as livestock pastures. County Attorney Allen Shelton said Thursday that the commission passed the moratorium to see if zoning could be used to keep the TMers out. He said the repeal came after the commission was told the peace group planned to file a federal lawsuit, claiming violation of its civil rights. Shelton said the group likely would have prevailed. The reason they urged the moratorium is they didn't want the Transcendental Meditation people to locate here, Shelton said. You couldn't use zoning to exclude people for their beliefs. It's hard to think of a reason for not having an education center in the middle of the county. But Commissioner Arthur Kuhlmann said it's not over. We lost this battle, but we're still hoping to win the war, he said. Shelton said the planning commission will continue working on recommendations that eventually could evolve into county zoning. Altogether, the Maharishi wants to build 2,400 peace palaces in 250 U.S. cities. The TM movement began in the 1950s and traces its roots to India. Practitioners repeat a thought -- a mantra -- over and over to achieve relaxation, typically for 15 to 20 minutes every morning and evening. Supporters say TM is a technique, not a religion. But several local pastors earlier this year signed a letter to a local newspaper saying: They are welcome, but they must understand we are competing for the eternal souls of people. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers fight Kansas town in war for souls
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, thank God! Now we can have a dozen, empty marble palaces in the middle of Kansas. I feel better already. This is the first, preparatory step to making a brand new TM siddhi available. It has to do with instantly beaming the body from one place to another. Similar to the flying siddhi, one won't be able to perform it fully at first, jumping to anyplace you want to go. The hopping stage of this new siddhi will be to beam yourself to one of these peace palaces. Word on the street has it that the siddhi itself consists of thinking, Relationship of body and Kansas...there's no place like OM. Training in the new siddhi will be offered for free to TMers who have already taken the existing TM Siddhis course. But if you want the ruby slippers that make the new siddhi work, they will cost you $10,000. :-) --- george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smith County won't block 'peace palaces' The Wichita Eagle / Associated Press http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/state/15692067.htm SMITH CENTER - The Smith County Commission has backed off a plan to keep the Global Country of World Peace from building a dozen marble peace palaces on prime farmland near the geographic center of the lower 48 states. The organization, affiliated with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and his Transcendental Meditation movement, bought large tracts of land in Smith County earlier this year, causing some residents to be upset over the idea. The three-member commission earlier this week repealed a measure that had prevented the change in land use from agricultural until the county zoning regulations were completed. The moratorium passed this summer was designed to preserve the status quo while it could be determined whether zoning regulations could be used to prevent the Global Country of World Peace from using land for the purposes announced by such organization, according to the resolution repealing it. There are no zoning regulations in the rural county area, although a planning commission is studying the idea. Most of rural Smith County is used for farming wheat and corn or as livestock pastures. County Attorney Allen Shelton said Thursday that the commission passed the moratorium to see if zoning could be used to keep the TMers out. He said the repeal came after the commission was told the peace group planned to file a federal lawsuit, claiming violation of its civil rights. Shelton said the group likely would have prevailed. The reason they urged the moratorium is they didn't want the Transcendental Meditation people to locate here, Shelton said. You couldn't use zoning to exclude people for their beliefs. It's hard to think of a reason for not having an education center in the middle of the county. But Commissioner Arthur Kuhlmann said it's not over. We lost this battle, but we're still hoping to win the war, he said. Shelton said the planning commission will continue working on recommendations that eventually could evolve into county zoning. Altogether, the Maharishi wants to build 2,400 peace palaces in 250 U.S. cities. The TM movement began in the 1950s and traces its roots to India. Practitioners repeat a thought -- a mantra -- over and over to achieve relaxation, typically for 15 to 20 minutes every morning and evening. Supporters say TM is a technique, not a religion. But several local pastors earlier this year signed a letter to a local newspaper saying: They are welcome, but they must understand we are competing for the eternal souls of people. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'North Korea/The Bomb/This Weekend?'
North Korea 'could test bomb this weekend' (Filed: 06/10/2006)North Korea may carry out a nuclear test as early as this weekend, according to a senior Japanese diplomat. Shotaro Yachi, the Japanese deputy foreign minister, made the claim after talks with US security officials in Washington. Japan has said that it is stepping-up monitoring of its neighbour as a contingency, though it has no solid information that a test is imminent.advertisementOn Tuesday the Stalinist state said it was preparing to trial a nuclear device, in an apparent attempt to blackmail America into dropping economic sanctions. Some analysts have suggested that a test could come as early as Sunday, the anniversary of Kim Jong Il's appointment as head of the Korean Workers' Party in 1997. Mr Yachi said: "Based on the development so far, it would be best to view that a test is possible this weekend." Japan has two intelligence-gathering satellites and launched a third in September that can monitor the North's nuclear weapons and missile programs. On Wedneday the US detected activity in North Korea indicating possible preparations for an underground nuclear test. Spy satellites have picked up unusual movement of vehicles at potential test sites. Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
lurkernomore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: snip Well, it won't buy Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh's ticket back to India. The Lil mantra-$elling -freak-Mahesh will die in exile in Holland. And, his old pals Swami Vasudevananda or Sri Ravi Shankara won't even show when they plow his corpse under in the tuplip garden out back. Namaste Sir Stephen, You seem somewhat fixated on the funeral arrangements for Mahesh. May I ask why? Namaskar Sir Steve Ji, yes you certainly may inquire : )...i must politely take exception with uour assesmnet of my fixation. i really and truly could care less what happens to Brahmachari Mehesh when he passes. as i said 6 years ago over at a.m.t.- , Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh will die in exile fallen and in dis- grace in Holland far from his former ashram at Jyosimutt. i am just reminding Ms. Judy and Lawson of the truth of my words 6 years ago, and how those words remain true to this day. Seems to me many other Indian Saints, (or whatever you want to refer to Mahesh as), had rather ordinary funerals. I can't say for sure, but Yogananda, Vivekenanda, Muktananda, probably had western type affairs. Sir Steve Ji, please check with the ashram of Ramakrishna Paramahans (that is Swami Vivekanand's former ashram) as Swami Vivekanand's final demise is uncertain. All that is known is after he returned to his ashram from Chicago, Ill. USA in late-1800s he admitted that he committed a grave error and told Ramakrsihna Paramahans disciples to burn his books, and then departed for the Himalaya Mountians never to be heard from again. And, for YoganandaJi's body, that was taken back to his ashram in India. What makes you think this is such a high priority for MMY? Well, Sir Steve Ji as Mahesh claims to be-, the most favored disciple of Sri BrahmanandJi (and SBS recieved a 'Grand-Send-Off' with the whole- coffin tossed in to Ganges next to Allhalabad Ashram ceremony)..,one would think Brahmachari Mahesh's corpse would be taken back the Allhalbad ashram for a least the same 'Grand-Send- Off'.., or maybe take his corpse up to Jyosimutt ashram and place on a funeral pyre. And, with Vedic Pundits from Kashi Vidvat Parishad and the four current legitmate Shankarachrayas in attendance paying homage to the *so-called Maharishi*- The great seer who claims he-, re-established the long lost Shankaracharya tradition, and all the lost Vedas.. It is so pathetic to hear of him now curled up in a log cabin in Holland blind and unable to walk don't you think? lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: They who bear cruelty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: A kind Providence has placed in our breasts a hatred of the unjust and cruel, in order that we may preserve ourselves from cruelty and injustice. They who bear cruelty, are accomplices in it. The pretended gentleness which excludes that charitable rancour, produces an indifference which is half an approbation. They never will love where they ought to love, who do not hate where they ought to hate. --Edmund Burke, Letters on a Regicide Peace Ought to hate? Seems to me that -- once again -- you're quoting some authority who has told you not only that it's *OK* to hate, but who *TO* hate. Well, first, I don't believe I've ever quoted an authority before to this effect, so it would appear that you're hallucinating again. Second, the quote says nothing about *whom* to hate; it seems you hallucinated that as well in order to fabricate some relevance for your little Charrick thought-stopper. Burke is obviously not talking about creating God in one's own image, nor is he advocating that one hate *people*. Third, what the quote *actually* advocates is to hate what is unjust and cruel, which I would interpret as having a strong aversion to that which fosters unnecessary suffering, rather than remaining indifferent toward it. Fourth, you may prefer to remain indifferent to what is unjust and cruel, but I'd suggest you might want to consider whether such indifference might well also inhibit your capacity to love, as the quote says. Fifth, for you *in particular* to advocate remaining indifferent to what you consider unjust and cruel is ironic in the extreme. Not for nothing do I call you the Master of Inadvertent Irony. Sixth, if you weren't so blinded by your own hatred for me and weren't so anxious to find yet another way to put me down, you would have remembered that a day or so ago I posted part of a news article about the Amish community that lost five (soon to be six) children in a horrific school shooting and how determined they were *not* to hate the sick monster who had done it or even to feel anger over their loss. Obviously the article and the quote above represent two very different approaches to life. If you had put a moment's thought into it before your knee-jerk lashing-out, it might have occurred to you that I was unlikely to be advocating *both* views, and therefore that I must have had some other purpose for making those postings. As you so frequently do, you missed the point completely. Perhaps some of the more rational people here will have been inspired by these two posts to actually do some reflection on the contrasting views. For example: Does the Amish avoidance of hate stunt their capacity to love? Does the fact that the fund they have established for the victims' families *includes* the family of the shooter suggest otherwise? The Amish are pacifists and do not serve in the armed forces. What does their refusal to participate in the killing and maiming of others in war say about their ability to be loving? Do we see a lack of love in their community? On the other hand, the Amish keep themselves isolated from the larger society and make no attempt to oppose its cruelties and injustices. Is that an indication of a limited capacity for love? Are they actually *repressing* hatred and anger, only to have them come out in other negative behaviors? Is their intolerance for the ways of the larger society itself a form of hatred? I don't know the answers, but I thought they were interesting questions to ponder. Too bad you couldn't see past your own hatred to the issues the two posts raised. But, of course, no surprise. Thank you for sharing with us the influences that made you what you are, but no thanks... You know you've created God in your own image when he hates the exact same people that you do. -- Gordon Charrick To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So I came up with my own half-assed theory of how to tell what the real *intent* was behind any political post on the Internet or what the real *intent* was behind any political speech or ad. It's pretty simple -- just determine the EMOTION that the post or speech or ad is appealing to. What emotion does the speaker want you to FEEL after reading or hearing it? And what do you do when you see two political-type posts from one person in which each of the speakers quoted in the posts wants you to feel an emotion that is *opposed* to the emotion advocated by the other speaker? If you're Barry, the answer is obvious. You respond to the post you think offers you the best chance of excoriating the poster and completely ignore the other. What emotion do you imagine Barry wants you to feel after reading *his* post? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Smoking Pot Good For Boomers, study suggests'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marijuana may help stave off Alzheimer's Active ingredient in pot may help preserve brain function Interesting that a drug that causes short-term memory loss is seen as a possible antidote to long-term memory loss... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lurkernomore steve.sundur@ wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: snip Well, it won't buy Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh's ticket back to India. The Lil mantra-$elling -freak-Mahesh will die in exile in Holland. And, his old pals Swami Vasudevananda or Sri Ravi Shankara won't even show when they plow his corpse under in the tuplip garden out back. Namaste Sir Stephen, You seem somewhat fixated on the funeral arrangements for Mahesh. May I ask why? Namaskar Sir Steve Ji, yes you certainly may inquire : )...i must politely take exception with uour assesmnet of my fixation. i really and truly could care less what happens to Brahmachari Mehesh when he passes. as i said 6 years ago over at a.m.t.- , Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh will die in exile fallen and in dis- grace in Holland far from his former ashram at Jyosimutt. i am just reminding Ms. Judy and Lawson of the truth of my words 6 years ago, and how those words remain true to this day. Seems to me many other Indian Saints, (or whatever you want to refer to Mahesh as), had rather ordinary funerals. I can't say for sure, but Yogananda, Vivekenanda, Muktananda, probably had western type affairs. Sir Steve Ji, please check with the ashram of Ramakrishna Paramahans (that is Swami Vivekanand's former ashram) as Swami Vivekanand's final demise is uncertain. All that is known is after he returned to his ashram from Chicago, Ill. USA in late-1800s he admitted that he committed a grave error and told Ramakrsihna Paramahans disciples to burn his books, and then departed for the Himalaya Mountians never to be heard from again. And, for YoganandaJi's body, that was taken back to his ashram in India. What makes you think this is such a high priority for MMY? Well, Sir Steve Ji as Mahesh claims to be-, the most favored disciple of Sri BrahmanandJi (and SBS recieved a 'Grand-Send- Off' with the whole- coffin tossed in to Ganges next to Allhalabad Ashram ceremony)..,one would think Brahmachari Mahesh's corpse would be taken back the Allhalbad ashram for a least the same 'Grand-Send- Off'.., or maybe take his corpse up to Jyosimutt ashram and place on a funeral pyre. And, with Vedic Pundits from Kashi Vidvat Parishad and the four current legitmate Shankarachrayas in attendance paying homage to the *so-called Maharishi*- The great seer who claims he-, re-established the long lost Shankaracharya tradition, and all the lost Vedas.. It is so pathetic to hear of him now curled up in a log cabin in Holland blind and unable to walk don't you think? Only if you are addicted and worshipful of the material world as you are. Who gives a damn if he is blind or in a cabin in Holland or not in India? The truth of His Master, the Living Embodiment of Shiva, Brahmananda Saraswati was to transcend space and time and live firmly in the timeless Infinite, surrendered to That which supports all phenomenal form, not addicted to the phenomena themselves. That is why Maharishi is his favorite disciple, surrendered to Him- He got It! And why you apparently fail to grasp this, and have staked your identity on proving some nonsense related to religious dogma. You should be ashamed of yourself for not transcending the words of the wise and the saints, Gods and Godesses which you bandy about so freely. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's handpicked successor (Lawson's- Tired Old Anoop Chandola Story)
sparaig spare egg /Lawson English wrote: cldbluiceman wrote: sparaig spare egg/ Lawson English wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: sparaig sparaig/Lawson English wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: sparaig spare egg/Lawson English wrote: Y'know, maybe I can't read the stilted language of the Indian Courts properly, or maybe I simply can't understand your points (or both), Namaste Sir Lawson, Then please allow to clarify, and give you the gest of the tired Old Anoop Chandola Story, and the fabrications of truth contained in Swami Shantanand's book -'Om Sri Jyothirmath'. First of all: (1) Regarding the will of Sri BrahmanandJi. None of the civil lawsuits were framed around the vaildity of the will. ..Thus, none of the civil suits in this dispute seems to have been framed in terms of contesting the legal bona fides of Brahmananda's will... http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/position/shank-jyot-ascii.html snip As I said, one of us is misreading what the court has said... As I quoted to you twice from the higher court's summary, the lower court found that the willl was valid... O well... Namaste Sir Lawson Ji, The validity of the will means exactly this.. there were five names on a piece of paper that was *Published after Sri BrahmanandJi passed away*.., that is an *Undisputed Legal Fact* by the Lower Court and Supreme Court and by both parties-, the Resondent/Ramji Tripathi-Shantinand, and the Plaintiffs. http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html The plaintiffs in the court case suggested to the court the order had been reversed, as Swami Shantinand was the last choice and the poorest choice..,as it was *Factually Established* Shantinand/Ramji Tripathi could not comprehend nor read sanskrit http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html http:// www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/msg20687.html As I said, you appear unable to understand what you furnish theURL for. Namaste Sir Lawson Ji, i must politely take exception with your assessment of my understanding of the URL i provide. The higher court said that the lower court said that the will was valid and that SBS was of sound mind when he wrote it. Sir Lawson Ji..where did you read in the URL that SBS wrote a will? You *assume facts not in evidence*!! please see page 792 ..Before his death, he executed a will which was published on June 8, 1953.. http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html He was in disposing mind when He signed the will. However that was disputed by the committee, and it was within ashram custom to nominate anyone they choose... please see page 792 ..and that in accordance with the custom and the rules of the Math, they were entitled to instal a person nominated by them as the Head of the Math... http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html Which was acceptable with both the Lower District Court, and the Supreme Court as Swami Krishnabodha Ji was a legally recognized Shankaracharya and accepted by other Mathas as well. No mention was made to the order of the will in the URL you provided. Sir Lawson Ji, i must politely inquire-*CAN YOU READ?*.. reference page 792 ..By the will, he nominated a panel of 4 persons in-order of choice indicated in the will to succeed him as head of the Math. His first choice was Swami Shantanand Saraswati, respondent No. 1. Respondent No. 1 accepted the office, He was installed as Shankaracharya of the Math on June 12, 1953.. http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html As to the rest, the question now arises: who is vomptent to choose SBS's successor? SBS or the group of scholars? Sir Lawson Ji, i must politely take exception of your *Skewd Understanding* of the *FACTS* the group of scholars were the persons that set up the ashram in 1940. Please see page 792 ..In 1940, a society known as Bharat Dharma Maha- Mandal or Kashi made an effort to discover the Math and the effort proved successful. The relics of the Math were found near Badrikashram. The land on which the relics were found along with certain other property on the banks of Varuna in Kashi was acquired by the Society and thereafter the Society created an endowment of the land by a deed dated April 11, 1941 in favour of Jyotir Math and Swami Brahmanand Saraswati (Brahmanand for short), a man renowned for his piety and vedic learning was installed as the Head of the Math. Brahmanand died on May 20, 1953 http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html The fact of the matter is that THEY ignored SBS's will completely and chose someone who wasn't even listed. And, that was *COMPLETELY WITHIN ASHRAM CUSTOM* as i pointed out
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lurkernomore steve.sundur@ wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: snip Well, it won't buy Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh's ticket back to India. The Lil mantra-$elling -freak-Mahesh will die in exile in Holland. And, his old pals Swami Vasudevananda or Sri Ravi Shankara won't even show when they plow his corpse under in the tuplip garden out back. Namaste Sir Stephen, You seem somewhat fixated on the funeral arrangements for Mahesh. May I ask why? Namaskar Sir Steve Ji, yes you certainly may inquire : )...i must politely take exception with uour assesmnet of my fixation. i really and truly could care less what happens to Brahmachari Mehesh when he passes. as i said 6 years ago over at a.m.t.- , Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh will die in exile fallen and in dis- grace in Holland far from his former ashram at Jyosimutt. i am just reminding Ms. Judy and Lawson of the truth of my words 6 years ago, and how those words remain true to this day. Seems to me many other Indian Saints, (or whatever you want to refer to Mahesh as), had rather ordinary funerals. I can't say for sure, but Yogananda, Vivekenanda, Muktananda, probably had western type affairs. Sir Steve Ji, please check with the ashram of Ramakrishna Paramahans (that is Swami Vivekanand's former ashram) as Swami Vivekanand's final demise is uncertain. All that is known is after he returned to his ashram from Chicago, Ill. USA in late-1800s he admitted that he committed a grave error and told Ramakrsihna Paramahans disciples to burn his books, and then departed for the Himalaya Mountians never to be heard from again. And, for YoganandaJi's body, that was taken back to his ashram in India. What makes you think this is such a high priority for MMY? Well, Sir Steve Ji as Mahesh claims to be-, the most favored disciple of Sri BrahmanandJi (and SBS recieved a 'Grand-Send- Off' with the whole- coffin tossed in to Ganges next to Allhalabad Ashram ceremony)..,one would think Brahmachari Mahesh's corpse would be taken back the Allhalbad ashram for a least the same 'Grand-Send- Off'.., or maybe take his corpse up to Jyosimutt ashram and place on a funeral pyre. And, with Vedic Pundits from Kashi Vidvat Parishad and the four current legitmate Shankarachrayas in attendance paying homage to the *so-called Maharishi*- The great seer who claims he-, re-established the long lost Shankaracharya tradition, and all the lost Vedas.. It is so pathetic to hear of him now curled up in a log cabin in Holland blind and unable to walk don't you think? Only if you are addicted and worshipful of the material world as you are. Who gives a damn if he is blind or in a cabin in Holland or not in India? The truth of His Master, the Living Embodiment of Shiva, Brahmananda Saraswati was to transcend space and time and live firmly in the timeless Infinite, surrendered to That which supports all phenomenal form, not addicted to the phenomena themselves. That is why Maharishi is his favorite disciple, surrendered to Him- He got It! And why you apparently fail to grasp this, and have staked your identity on proving some nonsense related to religious dogma. You should be ashamed of yourself for not transcending the words of the wise and the saints, Gods and Godesses which you bandy about so freely. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pulling your plonk in Iran
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Although I've injected some humor into this article I must admit that there is probably some spiritual basis for the edict. It has been my experience that when I retain semen my experiences during meditation are that much more profound... What do you keep it in when you retain it? Do you find that a standard mason jar works, or do you need an insultated thermos jug to insure more profound experiences in meditation? Masonic jar. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pulling your ... what!?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pulling your peter, pounding your pud, choking the weasel ... there are a great many slang words for penis, but plonk is not on anyone's list. The word plonk refers to the splashing sound, after making a deposit of solid waste into a toilet ... and adapted in 1989 as a Usenet term for the elimination of unwanted trolls or spammers into one's killfile. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plonk http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikisaurus:penis#Synonyms http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikisaurus:penis/more#P Here is the etymology of my usage of the word plonk. The first and only time I heard it used that way was by an Irish CP named Henry Clark on my TTC. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tell Democrats that terrorists are gay Republicans...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Drudge is kinda the anti-Josh Micah Marshall http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com Who had this to report about the Drudge story: http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001739.php Earlier today, the Drudge Report published a story claiming that one batch of lewd IM transcripts published by ABC News were the result of a prank by a former House page. The former page, Drudge said, goaded Foley to type embarrassing comments, which he shared with friends. The story did not quote the young man, or say whether any attempt had been made to contact him or his lawyer. Now, the lawyer for the former page in question, 21-year-old Jordan Edmund, says the Drudge Report article is false. Calling the story a piece of fiction, Stephen Jones told the Daily Oklahoman that there is not any aspect of this matter that is a practical joke nor should anyone treat it that way. This afternoon, ABC News published news of three more former pages who had sexual online conversations with Foley similar to Edmund's. Drudge is a hit or miss...that's what makes him different: he is not stifled from publishing gossip the way, say, the New York Times is. On first blush, he'll blast whatever he has heard. So, this was a miss. The story that put him on the map was the Monica Lewinsky story. Newsweek was the first to have it and was about to go with it but held back because they wanted more confirmation from more sources before going to press with it. Drudge didn't need that extra confirmation, published it on his website, and the rest is history. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: snip Well, it won't buy Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh's ticket back to India. The Lil mantra-$elling -freak-Mahesh will die in exile in Holland. And, his old pals Swami Vasudevananda or Sri Ravi Shankara won't even show when they plow his corpse under in the tuplip garden out back. Namaste Sir Stephen, You seem somewhat fixated on the funeral arrangements for Mahesh. May I ask why? Namaskar Sir Steve Ji, yes you certainly may inquire : ) But of course that does not mean you are going to answer his question. ...i must politely take exception with uour assesmnet of my fixation. i really and truly could care less what happens to Brahmachari Then why the constant harping about it over and over and over in numerous posts? Mehesh when he passes. as i said 6 years ago over at a.m.t.- , Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh will die in exile fallen and in dis- grace in Holland far from his former ashram at Jyosimutt. i am just reminding Ms. Judy and Lawson of the truth of my words 6 years ago, and how those words remain true to this day. So you're fixated on MMYs death because you're trying to prove a point to Judy and Lawson? It is so pathetic to hear of him now curled up in a log cabin in Holland blind and unable to walk don't you think? What is really pathetic is your obsession with The Lil mantra- $elling-freak-Mahesh death and your obvious anger and resentment towards him. Thirty years from now you'll still be harping about MMYs death and people will ask, Who was MMY? No one will care but YOU. But by then, who knows, maybe you will be curled up in your house blind and unable to walk. It sometimes happens when people grow old. It's called life. Clearly you're carrying around a lot of emotional baggage with regards to The Lil mantra-$elling-freak-Mahesh. After 6 years I'd say it's time for you to deal with your anger/resentment/betrayal issues with MMY and *move on* in your life. A LOT of people have and so can you! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Me, I'm waiting for someone -- anyone -- who can cast his political message in terms of a positive message, and who rises above the easy path of casting it in a negative light. Well, I tried to do that here recently with my diatribe about eliminating poverty in the U.S. and how the capitalist system along with some basic-needs social programs were the solution responsible for this enviable success and that it is this model that should be both recognized internationally and emulated in other countries. And if I recall, your reaction was that I was a few notches above being certifiable. It's *easy* (and *lazy*) to present one's political solution in terms of the bad guys and try to stir up anger and/or hatred against them. But if you look at history, these types of people rarely have anything positive of their own to contribute once they've gotten rid of the bad guys. IMO, it's because they've given little to no thought to what it means to be a good guy, and to actually have some positive solutions. It's *easy* to blame, and so these lazy fucks just blame. They *need* the bad guys, because they have no real positive ideas of their own to present. [snip] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'North Korea/The Bomb/This Weekend?'
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
jim flanegin wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: lurkernomore steve.sundur@ wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: snip Well, it won't buy Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh's ticket back to India. The Lil mantra-$elling -freak-Mahesh will die in exile in Holland. And, his old pals Swami Vasudevananda or Sri Ravi Shankara won't even show when they plow his corpse under in the tuplip garden out back. Namaste Sir Stephen, You seem somewhat fixated on the funeral arrangements for Mahesh. May I ask why? Namaskar Sir Steve Ji, yes you certainly may inquire : )... i must politely take exception with your assesment of my fixation. i really and truly could care less what happens to Brahmachari Mehesh when he passes. as i said 6 years ago over at a.m.t.- , Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh will die in exile fallen and in dis- grace in Holland far from his former ashram at Jyosimutt. i am just reminding Ms. Judy and Lawson of the truth of my words 6 years ago, and how those words remain true to this day. Seems to me many other Indian Saints, (or whatever you want to refer to Mahesh as), had rather ordinary funerals. I can't say for sure, but Yogananda, Vivekenanda, Muktananda, probably had western type affairs. Sir Steve Ji, please check with the ashram of Ramakrishna Paramahans (that is Swami Vivekanand's former ashram) as Swami Vivekanand's final demise is uncertain. All that is known is after he returned to his ashram from Chicago, Ill. USA in late-1800s he admitted that he committed a grave error and told Ramakrsihna Paramahans disciples to burn his books, and then departed for the Himalaya Mountians never to be heard from again. And, for YoganandaJi's body, that was taken back to his ashram in India. What makes you think this is such a high priority for MMY? Well, Sir Steve Ji as Mahesh claims to be-, the most favored disciple of Sri BrahmanandJi (and SBS recieved a 'Grand-Send-Off' with the whole- coffin tossed in to Ganges next to Allhalabad Ashram ceremony)..,one would think Brahmachari Mahesh's corpse would be taken back the Allhalbad ashram for a least the same 'Grand-Send-Off'.., or maybe take his corpse up to Jyosimutt ashram and placed on a funeral pyre. And, with Vedic Pundits from Kashi Vidvat Parishad and the four current legitmate Shankarachrayas in attendance paying homage to the *so-called Maharishi*- The great seer who claims he-, re-established the long lost Shankaracharya tradition, and all the lost Vedas. It is so pathetic to hear of him now curled up in a log cabin in Holland blind and unable to walk don't you think? Only if you are addicted and worshipful of the material world as you are. Namaste Sir Jim Ji, I must politely take exception with your assesment of my personal character. How would you know Him i worship? Who gives a damn if he is blind or in a cabin in Holland or not in India? Well Sir Jim Ji to answer inquiry ragrding-, who gives a damn.. i am guessing Mishmashi Brahachari Mahesh does, as he tried to appease former P.M. Indira Gandhi in 1980 by- informing P.M. Gandhi- he(Mahesh) would give up his vast personal wealth if she would allow him back into India! Also, i have from a good source (former purusha) who was aboard the plane when Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh was run out of India for the final time in 1989 that-, he(Mahesh) Bevan Morris and Greg Wilson cried like babies.., because Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh had gotten run out. The truth of His Master, the Living Embodiment of Shiva, Brahmananda Saraswati was to transcend space and time and live firmly in the timeless Infinite, surrendered to That which supports all phenomenal form, not addicted to the phenomena themselves. Sir Jim Ji, i must politely inquire-, what has that to do with Mishmashi Brahmacahri Mahesh's current situation? That is why Maharishi is his favorite disciple, surrendered to Him- He got It! Yes Sir Jim Ji..,Brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma got it.. run straight out of India. And why you apparently fail to grasp this, and have staked your identity on proving some nonsense related to religious dogma. ? You should be ashamed of yourself for not transcending the words of the wise and the saints, Gods and Godesses which you bandy about so freely. And, Lil Mishmashi Prasad Varma should have heeded those words as well.. because he got his butt run out of his former ashram. BTW Sir Jim Ji..since you are the ardent defender of Lil Mishmashi Prasad Varma..i must politely inquire, just what were those suspicious motivations and behavior he was up to at the time of Sri Vibhushiit Shankaracharya Swami Brahmanad Saraswati Ji Maharaj's death?? please see.. ..In fact, the earliest doubts about
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [snip] Me, I'm waiting for someone -- anyone -- who can cast his political message in terms of a positive message, and who rises above the easy path of casting it in a negative light. Well, I tried to do that here recently with my diatribe about eliminating poverty in the U.S. and how the capitalist system along with some basic-needs social programs were the solution responsible for this enviable success and that it is this model that should be both recognized internationally and emulated in other countries. And if I recall, your reaction was that I was a few notches above being certifiable. You thought that I rated you *above* the certifiable line? Interesting. :-) Kudos for casting your solution in positive terms. If it were based on reality, it might actually be a viable solution, but I don't think it is. The US has poverty out the ying-yang...I think you have just chosen not to see it. But we can agree to disagree on this... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's handpicked successor (Lawson's- Tired Old Anoop Chandola Story)
Lawson English wrote: As I said, you appear unable to understand what you furnish theURL for. Namaste Sir Lawson Ji, i took the libery to snip this..easy to read. i must politely take exception with your assessment of my understanding of the URL i provide. The higher court said that the lower court said that the will was valid and that SBS was of sound mind when he wrote it. Sir Lawson Ji..where did you read in the URL that SBS wrote a will? You *assume facts not in evidence*!! please see page 792 ..Before his death, he executed a will which was published on June 8, 1953.. http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html He was in disposing mind when He signed the will. However that was disputed by the committee, and it was within ashram custom to nominate anyone they choose... please see page 792 ..and that in accordance with the custom and the rules of the Math, they were entitled to instal a person nominated by them as the Head of the Math... http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html Which was acceptable with both the Lower District Court, and the Supreme Court as Swami Krishnabodha Ji was a legally recognized Shankaracharya and accepted by other Mathas as well. No mention was made to the order of the will in the URL you provided. Sir Lawson Ji, i must politely inquire-*CAN YOU READ?*.. reference page 792 ..By the will, he nominated a panel of 4 persons in-order of choice indicated in the will to succeed him as head of the Math. His first choice was Swami Shantanand Saraswati, respondent No. 1. Respondent No. 1 accepted the office, He was installed as Shankaracharya of the Math on June 12, 1953.. http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html As to the rest, the question now arises: who is vomptent to choose SBS's successor? SBS or the group of scholars? Sir Lawson Ji, i must politely take exception of your *Skewd Understanding* of the *FACTS* the group of scholars were the persons that set up the ashram in 1940. Please see page 792 ..In 1940, a society known as Bharat Dharma Maha- Mandal or Kashi made an effort to discover the Math and the effort proved successful. The relics of the Math were found near Badrikashram. The land on which the relics were found along with certain other property on the banks of Varuna in Kashi was acquired by the Society and thereafter the Society created an endowment of the land by a deed dated April 11, 1941 in favour of Jyotir Math and Swami Brahmanand Saraswati (Brahmanand for short), a man renowned for his piety and vedic learning was installed as the Head of the Math. Brahmanand died on May 20, 1953 http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html The fact of the matter is that THEY ignored SBS's will completely and chose someone who wasn't even listed. And, that was *COMPLETELY WITHIN ASHRAM CUSTOM* as i pointed out above! Now, i humbily request you answer my very simple questions Sir Lawson Ji.. First please allow me to point out that is a historical fact that Ramji Tripathi aka Swami Shantinand fabricated a story and published his *Om Sri Jyotirmath*. Question #1. *Why was it nessaccary for Swami Shantanand to *LIE about his past*? Sir Lawson Ji response here.. Question #2. And, what would motivate Swami Shantinand to *LIE*?... (Although to his credit Swami Shantinand quit his charade and-, gave up this nonsense of claiming the title of Shankaracharya.) Sir Lawson Ji response here.. Question #3. If nearly every statement in Shantinand's book 'Om Sri Jyothirmath was a *LIE*, and the fact Swami Shantinand eventually gave the nonsense of claiming title of Shankarcharya, was there ever any statement made by Swami Shantinand from June 1953 to 1980 that was true? Sir Lawson Ji response here.. As, i said.., i have no interest in this matter other than to show you the fallacy of your- Tired Old Anoop Chandola Story. As it is a fact your pal Anoop Chandola intentionally took advantage of a gullible western. Please see realvant issues cited regarding Swami Shantinand/ Ramji Trpathi.. a. *legal Fact* the publication of the will, which surfaced weeks after Sri BrahmanandJi's passing. Inspite of Swami Shantanand's claim-, Item #1). A fully executed will of Sri BrahmanandJi was deposited in Allhalabad on December 18, 1952. (1st paragraph page 2 of 'Om Sri Jyothirmath') b. Swami Shantinand was a poor choice because of the *Legal Fact* he could not comprehend sanskrit nor the Vedas. Inspite of Swami Shantinand's claim-, He was completely qualified the hold the seat as he was literate in Sanskrit and the Vedas. (2nd paragraph page 2 of 'Om Sri Jyothirmath') c. At issue was the fact that Swami Shantanand was installed in Sri BrahmanandJi's gaddi by Brahmachari Mahesh and few friends that thought the will could be credible. As, Dana Sawyer Professor of Religion and Philoshpy at Maine College of Art has pointed out. Inspite of Swami Shantinand's claim-,
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'North Korea/The Bomb/This Weekend?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/6/06 9:03:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tuesday the Stalinist state said it was preparing to trial a nuclear device, in an apparent attempt to blackmail America into dropping economic sanctions. Some analysts have suggested that a test could come as early as Sunday, the a nniversary of Kim Jong Il's appointment as head of the Korean Workers' Party in 1997. How much longer can this regime last? I just recently heard that there are virtually no cats and dogs left in North Korea because the population has eaten them. The masses are on starvation diets and the military and government employees are not fairing near as well as they were and are starting to grumble. The last two Stalinist holdouts -- North Korea and Cuba -- are, hopefully, on their last legs. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's handpicked successor (Lawson's- Tired Old Anoop Chandola Story)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lawson English wrote: As I said, you appear unable to understand what you furnish theURL for. Namaste Sir Lawson Ji, i took the libery to snip this..easy to read. i must politely take exception with your assessment of my understanding of the URL i provide. The higher court said that the lower court said that the will was valid and that SBS was of sound mind when he wrote it. Sir Lawson Ji..where did you read in the URL that SBS wrote a will? You *assume facts not in evidence*!! please see page 792 ..Before his death, he executed a will which was published on June 8, 1953.. http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html He was in disposing mind when He signed the will. However that was disputed by the committee, and it was within ashram custom to nominate anyone they choose... please see page 792 ..and that in accordance with the custom and the rules of the Math, they were entitled to instal a person nominated by them as the Head of the Math... http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html Which was acceptable with both the Lower District Court, and the Supreme Court as Swami Krishnabodha Ji was a legally recognized Shankaracharya and accepted by other Mathas as well. No mention was made to the order of the will in the URL you provided. Sir Lawson Ji, i must politely inquire-*CAN YOU READ?*.. reference page 792 ..By the will, he nominated a panel of 4 persons in-order of choice indicated in the will to succeed him as head of the Math. His first choice was Swami Shantanand Saraswati, respondent No. 1. Respondent No. 1 accepted the office, He was installed as Shankaracharya of the Math on June 12, 1953.. http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html As to the rest, the question now arises: who is vomptent to choose SBS's successor? SBS or the group of scholars? Sir Lawson Ji, i must politely take exception of your *Skewd Understanding* of the *FACTS* the group of scholars were the persons that set up the ashram in 1940. Please see page 792 ..In 1940, a society known as Bharat Dharma Maha- Mandal or Kashi made an effort to discover the Math and the effort proved successful. The relics of the Math were found near Badrikashram. The land on which the relics were found along with certain other property on the banks of Varuna in Kashi was acquired by the Society and thereafter the Society created an endowment of the land by a deed dated April 11, 1941 in favour of Jyotir Math and Swami Brahmanand Saraswati (Brahmanand for short), a man renowned for his piety and vedic learning was installed as the Head of the Math. Brahmanand died on May 20, 1953 http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html The fact of the matter is that THEY ignored SBS's will completely and chose someone who wasn't even listed. And, that was *COMPLETELY WITHIN ASHRAM CUSTOM* as i pointed out above! The court said that the plaintiffs said that this was within ashram custom. The court didn't rule on this either way... The court found: The District Court found that Brahmanand executed the will while he was in sound disposing state of mind, that respondent Nc. I being one of the nominees under the will having the prior claim would have been entitled to succeed as the Head of the Math but for the fact that lie was not learned in Sanskrit and the Vedas which was a necessary qualification for holding the headship of the Math. It further found that the allegations with respect to the breach of trust by respondent No. 1 had not been proved, that Krishnabodhashram was validly installed as the Shankaracharya of the Math but that the suit as it was brought for the vindication of the right of Krishnabodhashram to the headship of the Math, wasnot maintainable under s. 92 of the Civil Procedure Code. The High Court dismissed the appeal on the basis that the suit was incompetent under s. 92 of the Civil Procedure Code. Further, the court noted: If the real purpose in bringing the Suit was to vindicate the general right of the public to have the rightful claimant appointed to the office,, there was no reason why the plaintiffs omitted to implead or at least refer in the plaint to the three persons nominated by Brahmanand in his will to succeed him in the order indicated therein especially when it is seen that the plaintiffs accepted the custom of the Math to have the successor nominated by the incumbent for the time, being of the office of Shankaracharya. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman no_reply@ wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: snip Well, it won't buy Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh's ticket back to India. The Lil mantra-$elling -freak-Mahesh will die in exile in Holland. And, his old pals Swami Vasudevananda or Sri Ravi Shankara won't even show when they plow his corpse under in the tuplip garden out back. Namaste Sir Stephen, You seem somewhat fixated on the funeral arrangements for Mahesh. May I ask why? Namaskar Sir Steve Ji, yes you certainly may inquire : ) But of course that does not mean you are going to answer his question. ...i must politely take exception with uour assesmnet of my fixation. i really and truly could care less what happens to Brahmachari Then why the constant harping about it over and over and over in numerous posts? Mehesh when he passes. as i said 6 years ago over at a.m.t.- , Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh will die in exile fallen and in dis- grace in Holland far from his former ashram at Jyosimutt. i am just reminding Ms. Judy and Lawson of the truth of my words 6 years ago, and how those words remain true to this day. So you're fixated on MMYs death because you're trying to prove a point to Judy and Lawson? It is so pathetic to hear of him now curled up in a log cabin in Holland blind and unable to walk don't you think? What is really pathetic is your obsession with The Lil mantra- $elling-freak-Mahesh death and your obvious anger and resentment towards him. Thirty years from now you'll still be harping about MMYs death and people will ask, Who was MMY? No one will care but YOU. But by then, who knows, maybe you will be curled up in your house blind and unable to walk. It sometimes happens when people grow old. It's called life. Clearly you're carrying around a lot of emotional baggage with regards to The Lil mantra-$elling-freak-Mahesh. After 6 years I'd say it's time for you to deal with your anger/resentment/betrayal issues with MMY and *move on* in your life. A LOT of people have and so can you! As the Brits say: Spot On! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim flanegin wrote: snip Who gives a damn if he is blind or in a cabin in Holland or not in India? Well Sir Jim Ji to answer inquiry ragrding-, who gives a damn.. i am guessing Mishmashi Brahachari Mahesh does, as he tried to appease former P.M. Indira Gandhi in 1980 by- informing P.M. Gandhi- he(Mahesh) would give up his vast personal wealth if she would allow him back into India! 26 years ago- people change. Are you exactly the same as 26 years ago? Also, i have from a good source (former purusha) who was aboard the plane when Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh was run out of India for the final time in 1989 that-, he(Mahesh) Bevan Morris and Greg Wilson cried like babies.., because Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh had gotten run out. That's because Bevan and Greg *are* babies. It is hearsay anyway. The truth of His Master, the Living Embodiment of Shiva, Brahmananda Saraswati was to transcend space and time and live firmly in the timeless Infinite, surrendered to That which supports all phenomenal form, not addicted to the phenomena themselves. Sir Jim Ji, i must politely inquire-, what has that to do with Mishmashi Brahmacahri Mahesh's current situation? That is why Maharishi is his favorite disciple, surrendered to Him- He got It! Yes Sir Jim Ji..,Brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma got it.. run straight out of India. So what? snip And, Lil Mishmashi Prasad Varma should have heeded those words as well.. because he got his butt run out of his former ashram. BTW Sir Jim Ji..since you are the ardent defender of Lil Mishmashi Prasad Varma..i must politely inquire, just what were those suspicious motivations and behavior he was up to at the time of Sri Vibhushiit Shankaracharya Swami Brahmanad Saraswati Ji Maharaj's death?? please see.. ..In fact, the earliest doubts about the will left by Brahmananda Saraswati were linked to suspicion of the motives and actions of Mahesh Yogi (then called Mahesh Brahmachari)... http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/position/shank-jyot-ascii.html The original question which you posed, and that I've answered is the one regarding how badly Maharishi should feel because he can no longer adhere to the religious rituals you hold so dear in India. Sometimes one's allegiance to one's country of birth and one's traditional religion are worth giving up in order to accomplish other, more important goals. I find it absurd that you take to task Maharishi who has indicated decades ago his desire to spiritually regenerate the world about his supposed allegiance or lack thereof to incomplete Hindu rituals. Why would he care? If Guru Dev doesn't care, why would Maharishi? This dogmatic insistence on following traditions that haven't worked successfully for centuries is very puzzling to me. As if you care more about something you have learned than its practical application. Its just downright Tamasic, dude. Namaste. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Drudge: First-Hand or 4th Hand Characterizations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's a funnel for anti-liberal rumors. Sometimes they are factual. Usually not. Not specifically to Sparaig, but to all the posters who characterize Drudge similiar to above: Do you actually read Drudge? Daily? Ever? From your comments, its sounds like you are repeating stale 4th hand characterizations you read on some other site. And not from reading / Scanning Drudge daily. Your characterizations - while sparse and not comprehensive (and thus that may be the communications problem here) -- do not well reflect what Druge is day in and day out: his site is a news-digesting service -- like so many others, including many newspapers (who do little or no reporting, but pull stuff and reprint from other sources). His choice of articles is hardly right-wing or anti-liberal. He posts/links a wide variety of articles from a wide range of sources. One thing I like is his comprehensive set of links to a variety of media sources -- and presumably the primary ones he draws from. I look at his site regularly because his choice is a bity quirky, surprising, ironic. I find one or two articles of interest, at times, at a glance at his site, that would take a lot of slogging thru to back pages of other news digesters. Occaisionally, once or twice a month, he gets leaks on stories -- which he will hjeqadline -- and usually puts a huge Developing banner on it. I take that to mean, as I imagine any reader above second grade, as saying he has a good rumor, is running it down, but its just arumor at this point. I find his leaks often do bear some fruit -- have some substance behind them. But this part of his blog is a very minor part. And he rearely if ever posts his own editorials. He is not like a blogger who are often 95% editorial, -- with some newsdigesting thrown in. Look at his page today. What is right-wing and anti-liberal about these articles: http://www.drudgereport.com/ Maybe It Will Take a Woman to Clean up the House Ugly Iowa: Republican Spot Links Dem to Communist Paarty Marijuana may help stave off Alzheimer's Active ingredient in pot may help preserve brain function New Media A Weapon in New World Of Politics Three More Former Pages Accuse Foley of Online Sexual Approaches Major chains refuse to play Bush death film Man Apologizes for Courtroom Feces The source of these articles are from apparnetly right-wing bastions of: Yahoo News, Quad-City News, Washington Post, ABC To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a tad...uh...reactionary when the essential goodness of America is questioned. :-) I'm waiting for the politician, whatever their party affiliation, who seems to remember that there *is* such a thing as positivity, and who casts his or her speech in a positive light, appealing to the positive and life-supporting emotions of the public he/she claims to want to help. John Hagelin! Unfortunately, it looks as if I may have to wait a long time... When I see negative ads, i tend to write off that candidate -- the one runnning the ads. For the reasons you cited earlier -- they have no message and vision of their own. The problem is, from what i read, going negative still works and brings in the votes. Look at Bush and his hack attack jobs. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pulling your plonk in Iran
sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahem. Uh, Spare Egg, you were once a Rajneeshi? Er, if I was, I'd have worn the saffron and got all the free nookie. The UK HQ for Rajneesh was a few miles from where I lived in the UK and they had a better dance setup than the USAF base did, so I went there instead. Pray tell, what kind of dances were they doing? :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Smoking Pot Good For Boomers, study suggests'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: Marijuana may help stave off Alzheimer's Active ingredient in pot may help preserve brain function Interesting that a drug that causes short-term memory loss While under the influence, not afterwards -- studies show. Its not chronic (smirk). is seen as a possible antidote to long-term memory loss... My experience with my mothers' and others' alzheimers is that childhood and teen memories, or parts of them, often remained strong. For example, my mom at times was living as she was as teen. I have to get home, my mother is waiting for me. etc. And at times, she thought it hilarious that I would tease her that I, a middle-aged guy, was her son. (Though in the next breath, she would know i was close family member). But more medium and short term memories were progressively eroded. Regarding loss of short-term memory, she was totally in the moment. A good thing, we used to joke. She laughed at that. And she would joke that whe could watch the same movie evry night as if it were brand new. But she always recognized me. I would walk into her room and sometimes she reacted like I was visiting, just arrived -- and had not seen me in six months. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I'm waiting for the politician, whatever their party affiliation, who seems to remember that there *is* such a thing as positivity, and who casts his or her speech in a positive light, appealing to the positive and life-supporting emotions of the public he/she claims to want to help. John Hagelin! Unfortunately, it looks as if I may have to wait a long time... When I see negative ads, i tend to write off that candidate -- the one runnning the ads. For the reasons you cited earlier -- they have no message and vision of their own. The problem is, from what i read, going negative still works and brings in the votes. Look at Bush and his hack attack jobs. Besides the karmic affect that I was talking about in my Tibetan What is the emotion they are appealing to? theory, this is a tactic that *really* seems to backfire on Democrats when they try to adopt it, thinking that they have to fight fire with fire. Why? Because they're so BAD at gettin' down and dirty. The Republican Party, definitely since Lee Atwater and possibly before, are the admitted masters of dirty tricks and media manipulation. The Democrats are without clue when they try to do this. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Smoking Pot Good For Boomers, study suggests'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding loss of short-term memory, she was totally in the moment. A good thing, we used to joke. She laughed at that. And she would joke that whe could watch the same movie evry night as if it were brand new. For those who are interested in this subject, definitely see the aforementioned Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, but also don't miss the brilliant Memento. It's about a guy who, due to a blow on the head, can no longer form short-term memories. He meets someone new and within an hour or so can no longer remember having ever met them. And in this state he's trying to solve the mystery of who murdered his wife. (This description only scratches the surface of the storytelling tricks used in this amazing film...it's WELL worth seeing.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original question which you posed, and that I've answered is the one regarding how badly Maharishi should feel because he can no longer adhere to the religious rituals you hold so dear in India. Sometimes one's allegiance to one's country of birth and one's traditional religion are worth giving up in order to accomplish other, more important goals. I find it absurd that you take to task Maharishi who has indicated decades ago his desire to spiritually regenerate the world about his supposed allegiance or lack thereof to incomplete Hindu rituals. Why would he care? If Guru Dev doesn't care, why would Maharishi? This dogmatic insistence on following traditions that haven't worked successfully for centuries is very puzzling to me. As if you care more about something you have learned than its practical application. Its just downright Tamasic, dude. Namaste. Jim, the only solution is...No soup for you! Allow fools to be fools and the wise to be wise. What can you do? Better Coldblueice obsess on MMY and how horrible he is than pursuing Capital pages! And FYI, I heard MMY still owes money on overdue library books in his home town. What a bastard! Enough to make me stop meditating! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Drudge: First-Hand or 4th Hand Characterizations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: He's a funnel for anti-liberal rumors. Sometimes they are factual. Usually not. Not specifically to Sparaig, but to all the posters who characterize Drudge similiar to above: Do you actually read Drudge? Daily? Ever? From your comments, its sounds like you are repeating stale 4th hand characterizations you read on some other site. And not from reading / Scanning Drudge daily. I read him occasionally. I find what has been written about him is verified by my own observations. Your characterizations - while sparse and not comprehensive (and thus that may be the communications problem here) -- do not well reflect what Druge is day in and day out: his site is a news- digesting service -- like so many others, including many newspapers (who do little or no reporting, but pull stuff and reprint from other sources). His choice of articles is hardly right-wing or anti-liberal. Reasonable people, I suppose, can disagree as to whether his choice of articles leans right. From my perspective and that of many others, the political articles he links to, as well as his own scoops, certainly do tend to lean right. I read him almost daily at the beginning of the Lewinsky scandal because he seemed always to have the very latest scoop. But I found the tone of the articles about the scandal that he linked to, and the scoops he wrote about himself, so relentlessly and viciously anti-Clinton (as well as very frequently wildly inaccurate--the most hateful of the right-wingers' false claims about the Clintons) that I was thoroughly turned off and started getting my information elsewhere. Drudge was also instrumental in pushing the anti- Kerry claims of the Swift Boat Veterans for gag Truth, which played a significant role in Kerry's defeat in the presidential election. And in a recent interview he insisted that the Foley scandal was the fault of the pages. He's also very strongly anti-choice. I can't recall the last time I saw a lefty blog linking to Drudge for a story that was critical of or reflected badly on right-wingers. The vast majority of mentions on lefty blogs of the Drudge Report are citations of some particularly outrageous attack on Democrats/liberals. Many won't even provide links because they don't want to encourage traffic to his site. Righty blogs, in contrast, link to him approvingly all the time. He posts/links a wide variety of articles from a wide range of sources. One thing I like is his comprehensive set of links to a variety of media sources -- and presumably the primary ones he draws from. Hardly unique. BuzzFlash.com also has something very similar, for instance. (In fact, BuzzFlash, which is distinctly left-leaning, was started quite specifically as a counter to Drudge.) I look at his site regularly because his choice is a bity quirky, surprising, ironic. I find one or two articles of interest, at times, at a glance at his site, that would take a lot of slogging thru to back pages of other news digesters. Mildly entertaining. He's near the bottom of my list of sites to visit when I have nothing better to do. There are much more interesting pot-pourri-type sites, as far as I'm concerned. Occaisionally, once or twice a month, he gets leaks on stories -- which he will hjeqadline -- and usually puts a huge Developing banner on it. I take that to mean, as I imagine any reader above second grade, as saying he has a good rumor, is running it down, but its just arumor at this point. I believe you imagine incorrectly, both as to what he means by Developing... and what the majority of his readers think he means. I find his leaks often do bear some fruit -- have some substance behind them. But this part of his blog is a very minor part. In terms of space, yes, but it's by far the most important part in terms of the role the DrudgeReport plays in journalism and politics. Obviously, it's difficult to fill most of a Web page with sensational leaks every day. And he rearely if ever posts his own editorials. He is not like a blogger who are often 95% editorial, -- with some newsdigesting thrown in. Did somebody suggest he was? Look at his page today. What is right-wing and anti-liberal about these articles: http://www.drudgereport.com/ Maybe It Will Take a Woman to Clean up the House Ugly Iowa: Republican Spot Links Dem to Communist Paarty Marijuana may help stave off Alzheimer's Active ingredient in pot may help preserve brain function New Media A Weapon in New World Of Politics Three More Former Pages Accuse Foley of Online Sexual Approaches Major chains refuse to play Bush death film Man Apologizes for Courtroom Feces Huh, you seem to have chosen *only* articles that are not oriented to the right. (Although if you actually read them, you'll find several are not quite so neutral
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: a tad...uh...reactionary when the essential goodness of America is questioned. :-) I'm waiting for the politician, whatever their party affiliation, who seems to remember that there *is* such a thing as positivity, and who casts his or her speech in a positive light, appealing to the positive and life-supporting emotions of the public he/she claims to want to help. John Hagelin! LOL!! Slam-dunk! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I came up with my own half-assed theory of how to tell what the real *intent* was behind any political post on the Internet or what the real *intent* was behind any political speech or ad. It's pretty simple -- just determine the EMOTION that the post or speech or ad is appealing to. What emotion does the speaker want you to FEEL after reading or hearing it? I highly recommend it as an exercise in seeing. Just read some of the posts here, or the speeches being tossed around in the political arena, and *especially* the carefully-crafted ads that appear during election time. If you sit back and determine that the poster/ speaker wants you to feel outraged and angry when you read/hear what they post, then their *intent* is clear, and to some extent the inevitable karma of their approach is equally clear. Anger begets more anger; chances are that the person who appeals to this emotion is *comfortable* being angry, and thus *intends* others to be...and stay...as angry as he is. Same with hatred, but to an even greater degree -- those who find it easy to hate tend to cast their speech in terms of justified hatred. And the easiest of all messages to suss out are those that appeal to fear; it's pretty clear that the speaker wants you to *feel* fear after hearing the message. Such people are comfortable living in fear, and they want others to live there, too, because a fearful people are an easily-controlled people. And, once you've developed this trick of viewing the political rhetoric of the world in terms of what EMOTION it appeals to, notice how *rare* it is that anyone appeals to the higher emotions -- joy, love, caring for one's fellow man, etc. This is a good thought. However, it can evolve to dome-talk the blissy-speak of rajas and PM's of the Global Coutry of Peace. Regardless, appealing to positive qualities, highlighting and encouraging the good in someones' posts or ideas, creating a feeling of community and the feedom to open up, are good things. Its rare here on FFL now. It was much more as above several years ago. I think we all fall into the trap of focusing on the negative, and put-downs -- subtle or blatant. It can be a razor edge road however. To uncover more knowledge, it is useful to point out and explore gaps in a posts' logic, facts, grookingness of something, etc. To do so while highlighting the good in the post, and inspiring the poster to reach for new heights is a special skill perhaps, that can be honed. lately, often exercised around here, IMO. I have to laugh a bit at the irony of your good thoughts here, and your practice at times -- perhaps all happliy in the past -- of, IMO, putting people down. Slamming them on the mat -- the louder the thud the better -- it appears. Hardly inspiring for the poster -- and reader. Most just delete such or move on when the full-body slams start. But we all do such, fall into such ruts, at times. Even when we start down a more pristine road of trying to uncover gaps and twisted knots in some post or flow of ideas in order to provide catalysts to open up the understanding of everyone. One trap, it appears to me, is, having seen some real or imagined flaw in some post, to enliven the habit we all have at times, to imput motives to others for their flaws. Usually as a put down. This takes the discussion off the main thing -- the gap in the ideas of the post -- to personal things. Often the discuss then devolves to I am NOT a retard with daddy issues and a fear of my limitations! I AM NOT. But YOU ARE, NA NA NA NA! Sol There! How wonderful the flow of posts might be if we all stuck to the ideas expressed, their merits, perhaps weaknesss. And if the latter, some information and insight that heals he flaw. And should we decide the inner dynamics of the poster is really relevant, to first see and own up to the same flaw in ourselves -- past, present. Such as, An interesting dynamic I have strugggled with, is xyz. Here are some things that helped me overcome this limitation. BtW, I feel better, things go better for me, having overcome this obstacle in my inner life. Regardless, I applaud your thought and flow in this post. It makes me think of how I can better apply it in my posts -- and life. Any ideas from you and others on how you might do so too, in your lives? And, IF you have some insights, I invite you to suggest how i might also do so in my life. However, i suggest you limit your suggestion for others to those offering such an invitation. Its been my life-experience that unsolictied advice is rarely effective. To his credit, Maharishi sometimes does this, although he tends to muddy the message up with appeals to fear and self importance a lot. But most of the other pundits of the world seem to have settled for appeals to righteous anger or downright hatred and most often fear in their attempts to
[FairfieldLife] Keith Olbermann Hits One Out Of The Park!
SPECIAL COMMENT By Keith Olbermann Anchor, 'Countdown' MSNBC Updated: 8:33 p.m. ET Oct 5, 2006 While the leadership in Congress has self-destructed over the revelations of an unmatched, and unrelieved, march through a cesspool ... While the leadership inside the White House has self-destructed over the revelations of a book with a glowing red cover ... The president of the United States unbowed, undeterred and unconnected to reality has continued his extraordinary trek through our country rooting out the enemies of freedom: the Democrats. Yesterday at a fundraiser for an Arizona congressman, Mr. Bush claimed, quote, 177 of the opposition party said, `You know, we don't think we ought to be listening to the conversations of terrorists.' The hell they did. One hundred seventy-seven Democrats opposed the president's seizure of another part of the Constitution. Not even the White House press office could actually name a single Democrat who had ever said the government shouldn't be listening to the conversations of terrorists. President Bush hears what he wants. Tuesday, at another fundraiser in California, he had said, Democrats take a law enforcement approach to terrorism. That means America will wait until we're attacked again before we respond. Mr. Bush fabricated that, too. And evidently he has begun to fancy himself as a mind reader. If you listen closely to some of the leaders of the Democratic Party, the president said at another fundraiser Monday in Nevada, it sounds like they think the best way to protect the American people is wait until we're attacked again. The president doesn't just hear what he wants. He hears things that only he can hear. It defies belief that this president and his administration could continue to find new unexplored political gutters into which they could wallow. Yet they do. It is startling enough that such things could be said out loud by any president of this nation. Rhetorically, it is about an inch short of Mr. Bush accusing Democratic leaders, Democrats, the majority of Americans who disagree with his policies of treason. But it is the context that truly makes the head spin. Just 25 days ago, on the fifth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, this same man spoke to this nation and insisted, We must put aside our differences and work together to meet the test that history has given us. Mr. Bush, this is a test you have already failed. If your commitment to put aside differences and work together is replaced in the span of just three weeks by claiming your political opponents prefer to wait to see this country attacked again, and by spewing fabrications about what they've said, then the questions your critics need to be asking are no longer about your policies. They are, instead, solemn and even terrible questions, about your fitness to fulfill the responsibilities of your office. No Democrat, sir, has ever said anything approaching the suggestion that the best means of self-defense is to wait until we're attacked again. No critic, no commentator, no reluctant Republican in the Senate has ever said anything that any responsible person could even have exaggerated into the slander you spoke in Nevada on Monday night, nor the slander you spoke in California on Tuesday, nor the slander you spoke in Arizona on Wednesday ... nor whatever is next. You have dishonored your party, sir; you have dishonored your supporters; you have dishonored yourself. But tonight the stark question we must face is why? Why has the ferocity of your venom against the Democrats now exceeded the ferocity of your venom against the terrorists? Why have you chosen to go down in history as the president who made things up? In less than one month you have gone from a flawed call to unity to this clarion call to hatred of Americans, by Americans. If this is not simply the most shameless example of the rhetoric of political hackery, then it would have to be the cry of a leader crumbling under the weight of his own lies. We have, of course, survived all manner of political hackery, of every shape, size and party. We will have to suffer it, for as long as the Republic stands. But the premise of a president who comes across as a compulsive liar is nothing less than terrifying. A president who since 9/11 will not listen, is not listening and thanks to Bob Woodward's most recent account evidently has never listened. A president who since 9/11 so hates or fears other Americans that he accuses them of advocating deliberate inaction in the face of the enemy. A president who since 9/11 has savaged the very freedoms he claims to be protecting from attack attack by terrorists, or by Democrats, or by both it is now impossible to find a consistent thread of logic as to who Mr. Bush believes the enemy is. But if we know one thing for certain about Mr. Bush, it is this: This president in his bullying of the Senate last month and in his slandering of the Democrats this
[FairfieldLife] Rajas and Kings-Victory Day Musings
Written by a long time former personal secretary of MMY. (Rick, you know who it is.) What incredible nonsense and the pinnacle of an infantile dependant relationship to life. The whole message here is that, see, all these years were not a waste and did pay off as at least some of us have become divine beings after all and are now worthy of being worshiped'. On the other hand, the appeal for all the TM supplicants is that they can continue playing the role of dependant child a little longer after MMY kicks the bucket and feel protected by their newly coronated royal lineage, all the while totally reinforcing the projection that they are in fact separate individuals on a cosmic journey and that surely one day too they will also finally become 'worthy', but above all keep the game going at all cost, even if the cost is the last remnant of commonsense. The self-proclaimed 'royal rulers of the age of enlightenment' playing court to His Majesty Raja Nada Ramm ... it's insanity on a high scale and a display of the sense of separation in one of its more outrageous and ridiculous manifestations! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's handpicked successor (Lawson's- Tired Old Anoop Chandola Story)
sparaig / Lawson English wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: Lawson English wrote: As I said, you appear unable to understand what you furnish theURL for. Namaste Sir Lawson Ji, i took the libery to snip this..easy to read. i must politely take exception with your assessment of my understanding of the URL i provide. The higher court said that the lower court said that the will was valid and that SBS was of sound mind when he wrote it. Sir Lawson Ji..where did you read in the URL that SBS wrote a will? You *assume facts not in evidence*!! please see page 792 ..Before his death, he executed a will which was published on June 8, 1953.. http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html He was in disposing mind when He signed the will. However that was disputed by the committee, and it was within ashram custom to nominate anyone they choose... please see page 792 ..and that in accordance with the custom and the rules of the Math, they were entitled to instal a person nominated by them as the Head of the Math... http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html Which was acceptable with both the Lower District Court, and the Supreme Court as Swami Krishnabodha Ji was a legally recognized Shankaracharya and accepted by other Mathas as well. No mention was made to the order of the will in the URL you provided. Sir Lawson Ji, i must politely inquire-*CAN YOU READ?*.. reference page 792 ..By the will, he nominated a panel of 4 persons in-order of choice indicated in the will to succeed him as head of the Math. His first choice was Swami Shantanand Saraswati, respondent No. 1. Respondent No. 1 accepted the office, He was installed as Shankaracharya of the Math on June 12, 1953.. http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html As to the rest, the question now arises: who is vomptent to choose SBS's successor? SBS or the group of scholars? Sir Lawson Ji, i must politely take exception of your *Skewd Understanding* of the *FACTS* the group of scholars were the persons that set up the ashram in 1940. Please see page 792 ..In 1940, a society known as Bharat Dharma Maha - Mandal or Kashi made an effort to discover the Math and the effort proved successful. The relics of the Math were found near Badrikashram. The land on which the relics were found along with certain other property on the banks of Varuna in Kashi was acquired by the Society and thereafter the Society created an endowment of the land by a deed dated April 11, 1941 in favour of Jyotir Math and Swami Brahmanand Saraswati (Brahmanand for short), a man renowned for his piety and vedic learning was installed as the Head of the Math. Brahmanand died on May 20, 1953 http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html The fact of the matter is that THEY ignored SBS's will completely and chose someone who wasn't even listed. And, that was *COMPLETELY WITHIN ASHRAM CUSTOM* as i pointed out above! The court said that the plaintiffs said that this was within ashram custom. The court didn't rule on this either way... The court found: snip snip Namsate Sir Lawson Ji, Now that we have agreed on what the Courts have found. Can you please answer three simple questions? First please allow me to point out that is a historical fact that Ramji Tripathi aka Swami Shantinand fabricated a story and published his *Om Sri Jyotirmath*. Question #1. *Why was it nessaccary for Swami Shantanand to *LIE about his past*? Sir Lawson Ji response here.. Question #2. And, what would motivate Swami Shantinand to *LIE*?... (Although to his credit Swami Shantinand quit his charade and-, gave up this nonsense of claiming the title of Shankaracharya.) Sir Lawson Ji response here.. Question #3. If nearly every statement in Shantinand's book 'Om Sri Jyothirmath was a *LIE*, and the fact Swami Shantinand eventually gave the nonsense of claiming title of Shankarcharya, was there ever any statement made by Swami Shantinand from June 1953 to 1980 that was true? Sir Lawson Ji response here.. As, i said.., i have no interest in this matter other than to show you the fallacy of your- Tired Old Anoop Chandola Story. As it is a fact your pal Anoop Chandola intentionally took advantage of a gullible western. Please see realvant issues cited regarding Swami Shantinand/ Ramji Trpathi.. a. *legal Fact* the publication of the will, which surfaced weeks after Sri BrahmanandJi's passing. Inspite of Swami Shantanand's claim-, Item #1). A fully executed will of Sri BrahmanandJi was deposited in Allhalabad on December 18, 1952. (1st paragraph page 2 of 'Om Sri Jyothirmath') b. Swami Shantinand was a poor choice because of the *Legal Fact* he could not comprehend sanskrit nor the Vedas. Inspite of Swami
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'North Korea/The Bomb/This Weekend?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/6/06 9:03:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tuesday the Stalinist state said it was preparing to trial a nuclear device, in an apparent attempt to blackmail America into dropping economic sanctions. Some analysts have suggested that a test could come as early as Sunday, the a nniversary of Kim Jong Il's appointment as head of the Korean Workers' Party in 1997. How much longer can this regime last? I just recently heard that there are virtually no cats and dogs left in North Korea because the population has eaten them. The masses are on starvation diets and the military and government employees are not fairing near as well as they were and are starting to grumble. I've heard that we put the crunch on counterfitting US money, which was a big item for them. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original question which you posed, and that I've answered is the one regarding how badly Maharishi should feel because he can no longer adhere to the religious rituals you hold so dear in India. Sometimes one's allegiance to one's country of birth and one's traditional religion are worth giving up in order to accomplish other, more important goals. I find it absurd that you take to task Maharishi who has indicated decades ago his desire to spiritually regenerate the world about his supposed allegiance or lack thereof to incomplete Hindu rituals. Why would he care? If Guru Dev doesn't care, why would Maharishi? This dogmatic insistence on following traditions that haven't worked successfully for centuries is very puzzling to me. As if you care more about something you have learned than its practical application. Its just downright Tamasic, dude. Namaste. Jim, the only solution is...No soup for you! Allow fools to be fools and the wise to be wise. What can you do? Better Coldblueice obsess on MMY and how horrible he is than pursuing Capital pages! And FYI, I heard MMY still owes money on overdue library books in his home town. What a bastard! Enough to make me stop meditating! Those overdue fines haven't been enough to make me stop, but I might if I see: Namaste Sir xxx ji, I must politely take exception with your assesment..! Cut the crap! If you're gonna bash someone, just do it. No Pranams for You! JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Smoking Pot Good For Boomers, study suggests'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Regarding loss of short-term memory, she was totally in the moment. A good thing, we used to joke. She laughed at that. And she would joke that whe could watch the same movie evry night as if it were brand new. For those who are interested in this subject, definitely see the aforementioned Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, but also don't miss the brilliant Memento. It's about a guy who, due to a blow on the head, can no longer form short-term memories. He meets someone new and within an hour or so can no longer remember having ever met them. And in this state he's trying to solve the mystery of who murdered his wife. (This description only scratches the surface of the storytelling tricks used in this amazing film...it's WELL worth seeing.) I haven't seen Eternal S yet, but Momento is excellent- in fact I've thought about watching the scenes in reverse order to see if it provides me a better idea of what is going on. Very weird picture. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original question which you posed, and that I've answered is the one regarding how badly Maharishi should feel because he can no longer adhere to the religious rituals you hold so dear in India. Sometimes one's allegiance to one's country of birth and one's traditional religion are worth giving up in order to accomplish other, more important goals. I find it absurd that you take to task Maharishi who has indicated decades ago his desire to spiritually regenerate the world about his supposed allegiance or lack thereof to incomplete Hindu rituals. Why would he care? If Guru Dev doesn't care, why would Maharishi? This dogmatic insistence on following traditions that haven't worked successfully for centuries is very puzzling to me. As if you care more about something you have learned than its practical application. Its just downright Tamasic, dude. Namaste. Jim, the only solution is...No soup for you! Allow fools to be fools and the wise to be wise. What can you do? Better Coldblueice obsess on MMY and how horrible he is than pursuing Capital pages! And FYI, I heard MMY still owes money on overdue library books in his home town. What a bastard! Enough to make me stop meditating! No soup for Maharishi! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
jim flanegin wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: jim flanegin wrote: snip Who gives a damn if he is blind or in a cabin in Holland or not in India? Well Sir Jim Ji to answer inquiry ragrding-, who gives a damn.. i am guessing Mishmashi Brahachari Mahesh does, as he tried to appease former P.M. Indira Gandhi in 1980 by-informing P.M. Gandhi- he(Mahesh) would give up his vast personal wealth if she would allow him back into India! 26 years ago- people change. Namaste Sir Jim Ji, i must politely ask.., are you certain people change? Are you exactly the same as 26 years ago? Sir Jim Ji..,this is not about me. This newsgroup is about one- Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma Shristava and his (C)onfused (P)ersonal (I)deology. Also, i have from a good source (former purusha) who was aboard the plane when Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh was run out of India for the final time in 1989 that-, he(Mahesh) Bevan Morris and Greg Wilson cried like babies.., because Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh had gotten run out. That's because Bevan and Greg *are* babies. Sir Jim Ji..i must humbily remind you- those two are your future maharishis or rajas or whatever you are going to call them. Sir Jim Ji.., it maybe real soon Bevan Morris is your GuruJi. It is hearsay anyway. Agreed. The truth of His Master, the Living Embodiment of Shiva, Brahmananda Saraswati was to transcend space and time and live firmly in the timeless Infinite, surrendered to That which supports all phenomenal form, not addicted to the phenomena themselves. Sir Jim Ji, i must politely inquire-, what has that to do with Mishmashi Brahmacahri Mahesh's current situation? That is why Maharishi is his favorite disciple, surrendered to Him- He got It! Yes Sir Jim Ji..,Brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma got it.. run straight out of India. So what? Sir Jim Ji.., i must politely respond-, So What?. We are talking about the maharishi who claims to found the true ShankarAcharya Tradition that had been lost for years!! There is only one country on this Earth Planet that has a Shankar Acharya Tradition.., and i don't think this Tradition is in Holland. Do you? snip And, Lil Mishmashi Prasad Varma should have heeded those words as well.. because he got his butt run out of his former ashram. BTW Sir Jim Ji..since you are the ardent defender of Lil Mishmashi Prasad Varma..i must politely inquire, just what were those suspicious motivations and behavior he was up to at the time of Sri Vibhushiit Shankaracharya Swami Brahmanad Saraswati Ji Maharaj's death?? please see.. ..In fact, the earliest doubts about the will left by Brahmananda Saraswati were linked to suspicion of the motives and actions of Mahesh Yogi (then called Mahesh Brahmachari)... http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/position/shank-jyot-ascii.html The original question which you posed, and that I've answered is the one regarding how badly Maharishi should feel because he can no longer adhere to the religious rituals you hold so dear in India. Sir Jim Ji, may i humbily remind you that Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma claims-, found the long lost shankaracharya tradition which btw is full of religious rituals.. Please examine your puja for example. i do believe the tm puja was ruled a religion in New Jersey in the late 1970s...correct? Sometimes one's allegiance to one's country of birth and one's traditional religion are worth giving up in order to accomplish other, more important goals. Which are? I find it absurd that you take to task Maharishi who has indicated decades ago his desire to spiritually regenerate the world about his supposed allegiance or lack thereof to incomplete Hindu rituals. Sir Jim Ji.., his puja is full of religious rituals..,for example: candle waving, and fruit offerings, and invocation of Hindu Gods, and insence burning. Why would he care? Why does he have a puja and a shankaracharya tradition? If Guru Dev doesn't care, why would Maharishi? This dogmatic insistence on following traditions that haven't worked successfully for centuries is very puzzling to me. As if you care more about something you have learned than its practical application. Its just downright Tamasic, dude. Namaste. Namaskar All The Best Stephen Perino To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pulling your plonk in Iran
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Ahem. Uh, Spare Egg, you were once a Rajneeshi? Er, if I was, I'd have worn the saffron and got all the free nookie. The UK HQ for Rajneesh was a few miles from where I lived in the UK and they had a better dance setup than the USAF base did, so I went there instead. Pray tell, what kind of dances were they doing? :) Disco kust likfe the USAF To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Drudge: First-Hand or 4th Hand Characterizations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: He's a funnel for anti-liberal rumors. Sometimes they are factual. Usually not. Not specifically to Sparaig, but to all the posters who characterize Drudge similiar to above: Do you actually read Drudge? Daily? Ever? From your comments, its sounds like you are repeating stale 4th hand characterizations you read on some other site. And not from reading / Scanning Drudge daily. Your characterizations - while sparse and not comprehensive (and thus that may be the communications problem here) -- do not well reflect what Druge is day in and day out: his site is a news-digesting service -- like so many others, including many newspapers (who do little or no reporting, but pull stuff and reprint from other sources). His choice of articles is hardly right-wing or anti-liberal. I never said aything about his news-digesting service. He is a funnel for anti-liberal rumors. Few, if any, liberals send him rumors. And if you want a comprenensive set of links try http://news.google.com. Pretty sure its more comprehensive than his is. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: a tad...uh...reactionary when the essential goodness of America is questioned. :-) I'm waiting for the politician, whatever their party affiliation, who seems to remember that there *is* such a thing as positivity, and who casts his or her speech in a positive light, appealing to the positive and life-supporting emotions of the public he/she claims to want to help. John Hagelin! Unfortunately, it looks as if I may have to wait a long time... When I see negative ads, i tend to write off that candidate -- the one runnning the ads. For the reasons you cited earlier -- they have no message and vision of their own. The problem is, from what i read, going negative still works and brings in the votes. Look at Bush and his hack attack jobs. NPR is doing a series (I think) on negative campaigning. At least that has been the focus of their political stuff lately. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rajas and Kings-Victory Day Musings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Written by a long time former personal secretary of MMY. (Rick, you know who it is.) And is there a reason you do not disclose the ID of the secretary? This doesn't sound like a opinion piece a writer would cloak in anonymity. What incredible nonsense and the pinnacle of an infantile dependant relationship to life. The whole message here is that, see, all these years were not a waste and did pay off as at least some of us have become divine beings after all and are now worthy of being worshiped'. On the other hand, the appeal for all the TM supplicants is that they can continue playing the role of dependant child a little longer after MMY kicks the bucket and feel protected by their newly coronated royal lineage, all the while totally reinforcing the projection that they are in fact separate individuals on a cosmic journey and that surely one day too they will also finally become 'worthy', but above all keep the game going at all cost, even if the cost is the last remnant of commonsense. The self-proclaimed 'royal rulers of the age of enlightenment' playing court to His Majesty Raja Nada Ramm ... it's insanity on a high scale and a display of the sense of separation in one of its more outrageous and ridiculous manifestations! My first reation to long time personal secretary aka skin boy, is great, some inner cirlce insights. But I knew, a bit, observed, and/or have come to know a number of the past skin boys via their posts in various places. My take is that some have digested their experience, integrated lessons learned, and moved on. Others appear to still be digesting it. As the above guy, imo. If the TMO has some cult attributes, skin boys were the most shining examples of the cult -- the creme de la cult. A necessary, though not necessarily sufficient, qualification for skin boy was total surrender to MMY, TMO, and all the nuttiness. They bought into it 100%. 200%. Not the epitomy of highly stable, self-actualized -- in the more psychological sense, deep thinkers. Thats my view -- in retrospect. So why would i be intrigued to read what these guys think? What they saw is one thing. But their opinions? Views? From an ex creme-of-the-cult? Those skin-boys who have digested and integrated the experience and moved on, do provide some insights at times, IMO, but I always keep with a handful of salt in my hand. others who are still struggling with, digesting the experince, yet to fully integrate its lessons -- their views provide less value to me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] For example, -- in broad stokes -- shemp is referring ot poverty as the lack of basic food, water, shelter, medicine. Really bone-crushing stuff. Others are talking about an arbitrary income line used in the US to denote qualification for various social programs. These two definitions of the term ARE widely different. If both parties simply acknowledged that and then spent their energy thinking about how to reduce both types of poverty, what progress might be made!. Far more than mutal putdowns on how stupid the other party is. Actia;;u. Shemp appears to be using pverty to refer to being in immediate danger of starving to death. There are plenty of people in the USA who lack basic food, water, shelter and medicine-- sometimes one or more of the above at the same time--somtimes all of the above. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's handpicked successor (Lawson's- Tired Old Anoop Chandola Story)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig / Lawson English wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: Lawson English wrote: As I said, you appear unable to understand what you furnish theURL for. Namaste Sir Lawson Ji, i took the libery to snip this..easy to read. i must politely take exception with your assessment of my understanding of the URL i provide. The higher court said that the lower court said that the will was valid and that SBS was of sound mind when he wrote it. Sir Lawson Ji..where did you read in the URL that SBS wrote a will? You *assume facts not in evidence*!! please see page 792 ..Before his death, he executed a will which was published on June 8, 1953.. http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html He was in disposing mind when He signed the will. However that was disputed by the committee, and it was within ashram custom to nominate anyone they choose... please see page 792 ..and that in accordance with the custom and the rules of the Math, they were entitled to instal a person nominated by them as the Head of the Math... http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html Which was acceptable with both the Lower District Court, and the Supreme Court as Swami Krishnabodha Ji was a legally recognized Shankaracharya and accepted by other Mathas as well. No mention was made to the order of the will in the URL you provided. Sir Lawson Ji, i must politely inquire-*CAN YOU READ?*.. reference page 792 ..By the will, he nominated a panel of 4 persons in-order of choice indicated in the will to succeed him as head of the Math. His first choice was Swami Shantanand Saraswati, respondent No. 1. Respondent No. 1 accepted the office, He was installed as Shankaracharya of the Math on June 12, 1953.. http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html As to the rest, the question now arises: who is vomptent to choose SBS's successor? SBS or the group of scholars? Sir Lawson Ji, i must politely take exception of your *Skewd Understanding* of the *FACTS* the group of scholars were the persons that set up the ashram in 1940. Please see page 792 ..In 1940, a society known as Bharat Dharma Maha - Mandal or Kashi made an effort to discover the Math and the effort proved successful. The relics of the Math were found near Badrikashram. The land on which the relics were found along with certain other property on the banks of Varuna in Kashi was acquired by the Society and thereafter the Society created an endowment of the land by a deed dated April 11, 1941 in favour of Jyotir Math and Swami Brahmanand Saraswati (Brahmanand for short), a man renowned for his piety and vedic learning was installed as the Head of the Math. Brahmanand died on May 20, 1953 http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html The fact of the matter is that THEY ignored SBS's will completely and chose someone who wasn't even listed. And, that was *COMPLETELY WITHIN ASHRAM CUSTOM* as i pointed out above! The court said that the plaintiffs said that this was within ashram custom. The court didn't rule on this either way... The court found: snip snip Namsate Sir Lawson Ji, Now that we have agreed on what the Courts have found. Can you please answer three simple questions? OK, we agree. End of story. Cheers. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pulling your plonk in Iran
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Ahem. Uh, Spare Egg, you were once a Rajneeshi? Er, if I was, I'd have worn the saffron and got all the free nookie. The UK HQ for Rajneesh was a few miles from where I lived in the UK and they had a better dance setup than the USAF base did, so I went there instead. Pray tell, what kind of dances were they doing? :) Disco kust likfe the USAF Home key issues... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rajas and Kings-Victory Day Musings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Written by a long time former personal secretary of MMY. (Rick, you know who it is.) What incredible nonsense and the pinnacle of an infantile dependant relationship to life. The whole message here is that, see, all these years were not a waste and did pay off as at least some of us have become divine beings after all and are now worthy of being worshiped'. On the other hand, the appeal for all the TM supplicants is that they can continue playing the role of dependant child a little longer after MMY kicks the bucket and feel protected by their newly coronated royal lineage, all the while totally reinforcing the projection that they are in fact separate individuals on a cosmic journey and that surely one day too they will also finally become 'worthy', but above all keep the game going at all cost, even if the cost is the last remnant of commonsense. The self-proclaimed 'royal rulers of the age of enlightenment' playing court to His Majesty Raja Nada Ramm ... it's insanity on a high scale and a display of the sense of separation in one of its more outrageous and ridiculous manifestations! Eh, I just see a bunch of people doing what their guru told them to... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Smoking Pot Good For Boomers, study suggests'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Regarding loss of short-term memory, she was totally in the moment. A good thing, we used to joke. She laughed at that. And she would joke that whe could watch the same movie evry night as if it were brand new. For those who are interested in this subject, definitely see the aforementioned Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, but also don't miss the brilliant Memento. It's about a guy who, due to a blow on the head, can no longer form short-term memories. He meets someone new and within an hour or so can no longer remember having ever met them. And in this state he's trying to solve the mystery of who murdered his wife. (This description only scratches the surface of the storytelling tricks used in this amazing film...it's WELL worth seeing.) I haven't seen Eternal S yet, but Momento is excellent- in fact I've thought about watching the scenes in reverse order to see if it provides me a better idea of what is going on. Very weird picture. There is a version of the film on DVD that allows you to see the scenes in a linear sequence. (Without too many spoilers, that is *not* the sequence used in the released version of the film.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: So I came up with my own half-assed theory of how to tell what the real *intent* was behind any political post on the Internet or what the real *intent* was behind any political speech or ad. It's pretty simple -- just determine the EMOTION that the post or speech or ad is appealing to. What emotion does the speaker want you to FEEL after reading or hearing it? snip to Regardless, I applaud your thought and flow in this post. It makes me think of how I can better apply it in my posts -- and life. Any ideas from you and others on how you might do so too, in your lives? And, IF you have some insights, I invite you to suggest how i might also do so in my life. However, i suggest you limit your suggestion for others to those offering such an invitation. Its been my life-experience that unsolictied advice is rarely effective. Ok, having delivered the obligatory Oscar Wilde line, I'll tackle this more seriously. My theory is based on a Tibetan Buddhist view of emotion and what it is. That involves two basic principles. (Vaj can step in and provide the actual names of these things if he wants...I'm just gonna use language I'm more comfortable with.) The first is that emotion is not exactly what we in the West tend to think it is. An emotion like anger or sorrow or hatred or joy is not personal. It's subjective aspect of a person tapping in to a particular state of attention that has those qualities. The second is that we are not slaves to our emotions. We can change them any time we want, with little more effort than is involved in When you realize that you are not thinking the mantra, gently come back to it. A common Western view is that emotions like sadness and grief and anger must be allowed to run their course. You often hear people say that you have to go through it to get beyond it. I don't believe that. I believe that the situation is more akin to tapping into a *reservoir* of sadness or grief or anger, and *indulging* in it. You cannot ever exhaust the supply of the sadness or grief or anger; there is an inexhaustible amount of these feelings. The emotion will last as long as you *allow* it to last, as long as you indulge in it. Tibetan Buddhists have spent centuries examining the *qualities* of the different states of attention (emotions), with the idea of trying to determine which ones karmically cause an elevation in one's overall state of consciousness, and which ones karmically cause a lowering of one's overall state of consciousness. They are of the opinion that the lower emotions (anger, hatred, sorrow, self-pity) *always* produce that lowering effect. Therefore, if your goal in life is to *raise* your overall state of consciousness, when you become aware that you are lost in one of these negative emotions, what you can to is be a bit proactive, and gently shift your attention to a state of attention that is a bit more productive, and that you know from past experience always elevates your state of consciousness. In terms of politics, and especially political ads, I think it's important to remember that they are ADS, man. They are trying to *sell* you something. And the way they sell it these days is to try to sucker you into feeling a particular emotion. If they want you support invading Iran, they're going to try to sell you FEAR of the Iranians, usually combined with a general elitism that tells you how much better you are than they are. If they want to sell you on dumping Candidate D and voting for Candidate R, they're going to try to sell you ANGER at Candidate D, combined again with a sense of elitism and moral superiority (You're so much better than this person who allowed an intern to suck his dick, or who tried to get a page to suck his dick.) The thing is, when you buy into the emotion that underlies the ads, you've tapped into a reservoir of that particular state of attention, and have bought into the *karma* of that particular emotion/ state of attention. If you allow the ad to make you fearful, you're stuck in the FEAR mindstate, and have to live with the karmas of someone who lives in fear. If you allow the ad to make you angry, you're stuck in the ANGER mindstate, and have to live with the karmas of someone who is angry. Personally, I think a lot of these attempts to sell a particular negative emotion backfire on FFL because we're all fairly sensitive perceivers. If someone goes out of their way to make people angry or feel the same outraged indignity that they feel, a lot of people are able to step back and say, Now WAIT a minute! The person who is trying to make me feel angry (or fearful, or better than someone else) does this a LOT. Do I get the feeling that this person has become *happy* by living in the mindstate they're trying to convince me to adopt? If the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rajas and Kings-Victory Day Musings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Written by a long time former personal secretary of MMY. (Rick, you know who it is.) And is there a reason you do not disclose the ID of the secretary? This doesn't sound like a opinion piece a writer would cloak in anonymity. What incredible nonsense and the pinnacle of an infantile dependant relationship to life. The whole message here is that, see, all these years were not a waste and did pay off as at least some of us have become divine beings after all and are now worthy of being worshiped'. On the other hand, the appeal for all the TM supplicants is that they can continue playing the role of dependant child a little longer after MMY kicks the bucket and feel protected by their newly coronated royal lineage, all the while totally reinforcing the projection that they are in fact separate individuals on a cosmic journey and that surely one day too they will also finally become 'worthy', but above all keep the game going at all cost, even if the cost is the last remnant of commonsense. The self-proclaimed 'royal rulers of the age of enlightenment' playing court to His Majesty Raja Nada Ramm ... it's insanity on a high scale and a display of the sense of separation in one of its more outrageous and ridiculous manifestations! My first reation to long time personal secretary aka skin boy, is great, some inner cirlce insights. But I knew, a bit, observed, and/or have come to know a number of the past skin boys via their posts in various places. My take is that some have digested their experience, integrated lessons learned, and moved on. Others appear to still be digesting it. As the above guy, imo. If the TMO has some cult attributes, skin boys were the most shining examples of the cult -- the creme de la cult. A necessary, though not necessarily sufficient, qualification for skin boy was total surrender to MMY, TMO, and all the nuttiness. They bought into it 100%. 200%. Not the epitomy of highly stable, self-actualized -- in the more psychological sense, deep thinkers. Thats my view -- in retrospect. So why would i be intrigued to read what these guys think? What they saw is one thing. But their opinions? Views? From an ex creme-of-the-cult? Those skin-boys who have digested and integrated the experience and moved on, do provide some insights at times, IMO, but I always keep with a handful of salt in my hand. others who are still struggling with, digesting the experince, yet to fully integrate its lessons -- their views provide less value to me. All of which is your way of saying the Rajas and Kings trip looks ducky to you? The topic of the post was the over the top weirdness going on in Vlodrop these days. You say you know these guys from their posts. Your armchair analysis of this particular guy's present mental state couldn't be more off-base. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rajas and Kings-Victory Day Musings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Written by a long time former personal secretary of MMY. (Rick, you know who it is.) What incredible nonsense and the pinnacle of an infantile dependant relationship to life. The whole message here is that, see, all these years were not a waste and did pay off as at least some of us have become divine beings after all and are now worthy of being worshiped'. On the other hand, the appeal for all the TM supplicants is that they can continue playing the role of dependant child a little longer after MMY kicks the bucket and feel protected by their newly coronated royal lineage, all the while totally reinforcing the projection that they are in fact separate individuals on a cosmic journey and that surely one day too they will also finally become 'worthy', but above all keep the game going at all cost, even if the cost is the last remnant of commonsense. The self-proclaimed 'royal rulers of the age of enlightenment' playing court to His Majesty Raja Nada Ramm ... it's insanity on a high scale and a display of the sense of separation in one of its more outrageous and ridiculous manifestations! Eh, I just see a bunch of people doing what their guru told them to... Is he not YOUR guru as well? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim flanegin wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: jim flanegin wrote: snip Who gives a damn if he is blind or in a cabin in Holland or not in India? Well Sir Jim Ji to answer inquiry ragrding-, who gives a damn.. i am guessing Mishmashi Brahachari Mahesh does, as he tried to appease former P.M. Indira Gandhi in 1980 by-informing P.M. Gandhi- he(Mahesh) would give up his vast personal wealth if she would allow him back into India! 26 years ago- people change. Namaste Sir Jim Ji, i must politely ask.., are you certain people change? Are you exactly the same as 26 years ago? Sir Jim Ji..,this is not about me. This newsgroup is about one- Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh Prasad Varma Shristava and his (C)onfused (P)ersonal (I)deology. Also, i have from a good source (former purusha) who was aboard the plane when Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh was run out of India for the final time in 1989 that-, he(Mahesh) Bevan Morris and Greg Wilson cried like babies.., because Mishmashi Brahmachari Mahesh had gotten run out. That's because Bevan and Greg *are* babies. Sir Jim Ji..i must humbily remind you- those two are your future maharishis or rajas or whatever you are going to call them. Sir Jim Ji.., it maybe real soon Bevan Morris is your GuruJi. Hi Stephen, Based on what you say immediately preceeding this, that BM may soon be my GuruJi, I can appreciate what your intent here is. I get that- that you are exposing some of the paradoxical nature of Maharishi, and that he isn't perfect, etc, etc, etc. No Problem. I already see that and accept that. As for my GuruJi, I am totally sold out to Brahmananda Saraswati and Shiva. Locked In. Since 1980 I have been a close devotee of 'Guru Dev' and recently Shiva. So those other two you mention aren't even close. Jai Guru Dev. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [snip] Me, I'm waiting for someone -- anyone -- who can cast his political message in terms of a positive message, and who rises above the easy path of casting it in a negative light. Well, I tried to do that here recently with my diatribe about eliminating poverty in the U.S. and how the capitalist system along with some basic-needs social programs were the solution responsible for this enviable success and that it is this model that should be both recognized internationally and emulated in other countries. And if I recall, your reaction was that I was a few notches above being certifiable. You thought that I rated you *above* the certifiable line? Interesting. :-) Kudos for casting your solution in positive terms. If it were based on reality, it might actually be a viable solution, but I don't think it is. The US has poverty out the ying-yang...I think you have just chosen not to see it. But we can agree to disagree on this... Just a thought here. The poverty discussion, like some others, gets hung up on the rocks of semantics. Clearly, to me, people are using the same word, but with quite different meanings. And poverty is a power words, iMO, -- it has strong emotional stuff attached to it, including a large shame and convo-stopper quality. This amplifes the gap of connotations for this word by various parties and through fuel on the emotional fires. I have found that clearly defining a term, and acknowledging that others understand the word in another way, is helful for cordial and productive discussions that bring new insight. For example, -- in broad stokes -- shemp is referring ot poverty as the lack of basic food, water, shelter, medicine. Really bone- crushing stuff. Others are talking about an arbitrary income line used in the US to denote qualification for various social programs. These two definitions of the term ARE widely different. If both parties simply acknowledged that and then spent their energy thinking about how to reduce both types of poverty, what progress might be made!. Far more than mutal putdowns on how stupid the other party is. Yes. And your last paragraph is precisely the point I've been trying to make. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Drudge: First-Hand or 4th Hand Characterizations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: He's a funnel for anti-liberal rumors. Sometimes they are factual. Usually not. Not specifically to Sparaig, but to all the posters who characterize Drudge similiar to above: Do you actually read Drudge? Daily? Ever? Daily. Home page...5,6 times a day. But starting about 3 years ago, Drudge isn't as up-to-the-minute as he used to be. Before, his headlines could change in 5 minutes; now, the same headline can be there for 48 hours. I'm actually finding the left-wing huffingtonpost.com more exciting to go to for changing headlines. They are much, much more biased to the left than Drudge is to the right, but I find their approach fresher...I get the impression that Drudge is bored or tired of his role as the main guy... From your comments, its sounds like you are repeating stale 4th hand characterizations you read on some other site. And not from reading / Scanning Drudge daily. Your characterizations - while sparse and not comprehensive (and thus that may be the communications problem here) -- do not well reflect what Druge is day in and day out: his site is a news-digesting service -- like so many others, including many newspapers (who do little or no reporting, but pull stuff and reprint from other sources). His choice of articles is hardly right-wing or anti-liberal. He posts/links a wide variety of articles from a wide range of sources. One thing I like is his comprehensive set of links to a variety of media sources -- and presumably the primary ones he draws from. I look at his site regularly because his choice is a bity quirky, surprising, ironic. I find one or two articles of interest, at times, at a glance at his site, that would take a lot of slogging thru to back pages of other news digesters. Occaisionally, once or twice a month, he gets leaks on stories -- which he will hjeqadline -- and usually puts a huge Developing banner on it. I take that to mean, as I imagine any reader above second grade, as saying he has a good rumor, is running it down, but its just arumor at this point. I find his leaks often do bear some fruit -- have some substance behind them. But this part of his blog is a very minor part. And he rearely if ever posts his own editorials. He is not like a blogger who are often 95% editorial, -- with some newsdigesting thrown in. Look at his page today. What is right-wing and anti-liberal about these articles: http://www.drudgereport.com/ Maybe It Will Take a Woman to Clean up the House Ugly Iowa: Republican Spot Links Dem to Communist Paarty Marijuana may help stave off Alzheimer's Active ingredient in pot may help preserve brain function New Media A Weapon in New World Of Politics Three More Former Pages Accuse Foley of Online Sexual Approaches Major chains refuse to play Bush death film Man Apologizes for Courtroom Feces The source of these articles are from apparnetly right-wing bastions of: Yahoo News, Quad-City News, Washington Post, ABC To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rajas and Kings-Victory Day Musings
new.morning no_reply@ wrote: geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Those skin-boys who have digested and integrated the experience and moved on, do provide some insights at times, IMO, but I always keep with a handful of salt in my hand. others who are still struggling with, digesting the experince, yet to fully integrate its lessons -- their views provide less value to me. All of which is your way of saying the Rajas and Kings trip looks ducky to you? And why would you suggest that? I said nothing as to my views of the raja thing. As we all do at times -- i am a great offender at times -- you are perhaps seeing something on the page that is not there. If not on the page, where is it? In my experience, such things are in my head, not on the page. It occurs when I read something with other than a fresh view, and impose some pre-judgement on the poster as to their views. But since you aparently asked (implied an inquiry) my views, at a minimum, I can see other /additonal possibilities for some rajas other than: * incredible nonsense * the pinnacle of an infantile dependant * see, all these years were not a waste and did pay off * some of us have become divine beings * we are now worthy of being worshiped'. And I can see other /additonal possibilities for some meditators other than: * continue[ing] playing the role of dependant child a little longer after MMY kicks the bucket * feeling protected by their newly coronated royal lineage * while totally reinforcing the projection that they are in fact separate individuals on a cosmic journey * [a view that] one day too they will also finally become 'worthy', keeping the game going at all cost, even if the cost is the last remnant of commonsense. * it's insanity on a high scale and a display of the sense of separation in one of its more outrageous and ridiculous manifestations! As far as being ducky, I am no longer in the habit of a continually judging everything I see as good/bad/ducky/sucky. More of the time, I drop that clutter of the (monkey) mind, and just say oh. Observation observed. Interesting. Unless I need to actually make a personal decisioon on something, why jugge it as good or bad. And even If I judge it as not ducky for me, I decide this action or non-action, that does not imply or extend to a view that it serves no value for some others. The topic of the post was the over the top weirdness going on in Vlodrop these days. You say you know these guys from their posts. Your armchair analysis of this particular guy's present mental state couldn't be more off-base. Since you have not disclosed who it is, I am not in a position to specifically comment on this person's degree of digesting his skin-boy experience. But judging by the above comment, he seems prone to extremes, and ranting -- as some, not all, former skinboys are, IMO. A sign, IMO, of undigested / unintegrated experiences For example, incredible nonsense and the pinnacle of an infantile dependant relationship to life. This seems characteristic of an obsession with, seeing things that are perhaps reflective of his continuing struggle with his past demons -- al la how could I have been so duped. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rajas and Kings-Victory Day Musings
Does anyone know of a list of the latest crowned suckers -- I mean Rajas -- appear anywhere? I don't want to have to sit through a three hour coronation video. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Written by a long time former personal secretary of MMY. (Rick, you know who it is.) What incredible nonsense and the pinnacle of an infantile dependant relationship to life. The whole message here is that, see, all these years were not a waste and did pay off as at least some of us have become divine beings after all and are now worthy of being worshiped'. On the other hand, the appeal for all the TM supplicants is that they can continue playing the role of dependant child a little longer after MMY kicks the bucket and feel protected by their newly coronated royal lineage, all the while totally reinforcing the projection that they are in fact separate individuals on a cosmic journey and that surely one day too they will also finally become 'worthy', but above all keep the game going at all cost, even if the cost is the last remnant of commonsense. The self-proclaimed 'royal rulers of the age of enlightenment' playing court to His Majesty Raja Nada Ramm ... it's insanity on a high scale and a display of the sense of separation in one of its more outrageous and ridiculous manifestations! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rajas and Kings-Victory Day Musings
geezerfreak wrote: Written by a long time former personal secretary of MMY. (Rick, you know who it is.) What incredible nonsense and the pinnacle of an infantile dependant relationship to life. The whole message here is that, see, all these years were not a waste and did pay off as at least some of us have become divine beings after all and are now worthy of being worshiped'. On the other hand, the appeal for all the TM supplicants is that they can continue playing the role of dependant child a little longer after MMY kicks the bucket and feel protected by their newly coronated royal lineage, all the while totally reinforcing the projection that they are in fact separate individuals on a cosmic journey and that surely one day too they will also finally become 'worthy', but above all keep the game going at all cost, even if the cost is the last remnant of commonsense. The self-proclaimed 'royal rulers of the age of enlightenment' playing court to His Majesty Raja Nada Ramm ... it's insanity on a high scale and a display of the sense of separation in one of its more outrageous and ridiculous manifestations! In most Indian traditions including mine when you get a title that means you can do something like teach certain things. Can any of these rajas do that or are these just empty pompous titles? I suspect the latter. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
TurquoiseB wrote: I got to thinking about this while wandering around in Dublin with a brother who tends to be a tad...uh...reactionary when the essential goodness of America is questioned. :-) He kept quoting the political messages and slogans he believes in, and that tend to shape his reaction to world events. Me, I had just finished reading some Tibetan texts that spoke of the inevitable karmic effects of indulging in certain emotions. The theory was that, no matter what the cause, the *karma* of choosing to wear certain emotions is predictable, a Done Deal. That is, indulge in anger, and the outcome of wearing the mindset of anger is predictable (and not positive), *no matter what caused the anger*. Same with hatred, to an even greater degree. Same with fear or self- pity -- those who indulge in that mindstate reap the...uh...benefits of seeing the world through fear-colored or poor me-colored glasses. As opposed to the emotions that the Tibetans feel have a positive effect -- for the world and for the person wearing them. Love, joy, a sense of hope, caring for and taking care of one's fellow man, the desire to *give* to the world (as opposed to *take* from it), that sorta thang. So I came up with my own half-assed theory of how to tell what the real *intent* was behind any political post on the Internet or what the real *intent* was behind any political speech or ad. It's pretty simple -- just determine the EMOTION that the post or speech or ad is appealing to. What emotion does the speaker want you to FEEL after reading or hearing it? I highly recommend it as an exercise in seeing. Just read some of the posts here, or the speeches being tossed around in the political arena, and *especially* the carefully-crafted ads that appear during election time. If you sit back and determine that the poster/ speaker wants you to feel outraged and angry when you read/hear what they post, then their *intent* is clear, and to some extent the inevitable karma of their approach is equally clear. Anger begets more anger; chances are that the person who appeals to this emotion is *comfortable* being angry, and thus *intends* others to be...and stay...as angry as he is. Same with hatred, but to an even greater degree -- those who find it easy to hate tend to cast their speech in terms of justified hatred. And the easiest of all messages to suss out are those that appeal to fear; it's pretty clear that the speaker wants you to *feel* fear after hearing the message. Such people are comfortable living in fear, and they want others to live there, too, because a fearful people are an easily-controlled people. And, once you've developed this trick of viewing the political rhetoric of the world in terms of what EMOTION it appeals to, notice how *rare* it is that anyone appeals to the higher emotions -- joy, love, caring for one's fellow man, etc. To his credit, Maharishi sometimes does this, although he tends to muddy the message up with appeals to fear and self importance a lot. But most of the other pundits of the world seem to have settled for appeals to righteous anger or downright hatred and most often fear in their attempts to reach the people and inspire them to do what the pundits want them to do. Me, I'm waiting for someone -- anyone -- who can cast his political message in terms of a positive message, and who rises above the easy path of casting it in a negative light. It's *easy* (and *lazy*) to present one's political solution in terms of the bad guys and try to stir up anger and/or hatred against them. But if you look at history, these types of people rarely have anything positive of their own to contribute once they've gotten rid of the bad guys. IMO, it's because they've given little to no thought to what it means to be a good guy, and to actually have some positive solutions. It's *easy* to blame, and so these lazy fucks just blame. They *need* the bad guys, because they have no real positive ideas of their own to present. I'm waiting for the politician, whatever their party affiliation, who seems to remember that there *is* such a thing as positivity, and who casts his or her speech in a positive light, appealing to the positive and life-supporting emotions of the public he/she claims to want to help. Unfortunately, it looks as if I may have to wait a long time... A few months back on 60 Minutes I saw an interview with a political writer in Florida who said the best way to deal with corrupt politicians is to make fun of them. IOW, use humor. They can't stand that. Except for a few participants here we progressives are pretty much preaching to the choir. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few months back on 60 Minutes I saw an interview with a political writer in Florida who said the best way to deal with corrupt politicians is to make fun of them. IOW, use humor. They can't stand that. I would have to agree. And for the person doing the commentary, if they're good at what they do, they're actually *laughing* as they write it, not angry. Except for a few participants here we progressives are pretty much preaching to the choir. Gotta agree. And the best way to deal with those who feel compelled to preach to the choir is to make fun of them. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [snip] Me, I'm waiting for someone -- anyone -- who can cast his political message in terms of a positive message, and who rises above the easy path of casting it in a negative light. Well, I tried to do that here recently with my diatribe about eliminating poverty in the U.S. and how the capitalist system along with some basic-needs social programs were the solution responsible for this enviable success and that it is this model that should be both recognized internationally and emulated in other countries. And if I recall, your reaction was that I was a few notches above being certifiable. You thought that I rated you *above* the certifiable line? Interesting. :-) Kudos for casting your solution in positive terms. If it were based on reality, it might actually be a viable solution, but I don't think it is. The US has poverty out the ying-yang...I think you have just chosen not to see it. But we can agree to disagree on this... Shemp fancies himself a libertarian but I don't even think he knows what one is. He sounds like the Ayn Rand variety but I'm not even sure of that. I just think he's confused. :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shemp fancies himself a libertarian but I don't even think he knows what one is. He sounds like the Ayn Rand variety but I'm not even sure of that. I just think he's confused. :) I don't agree. After long experience with Shemp's provocative posts both here and on a.m.t., and more than a few exchanges in which he succeeded in provoking me :-), I think he's pondered many of the stances he takes here deeply. My only question is about the *input* for this pondering. I don't understand how he could have seen the same things I've seen in America and hold those views. I have to believe that we've lived in different places and seen a different America. And that's Ok. I am the first to admit that my view of America is pretty jaundiced. That view is highly colored by living in New Mexico (2nd poorest state in the nation) for six years. I saw a different set of This is America photos there than the ones you see in the glossy brochures. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rajas and Kings-Victory Day Musings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: new.morning no_reply@ wrote: geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Those skin-boys who have digested and integrated the experience and moved on, do provide some insights at times, IMO, but I always keep with a handful of salt in my hand. others who are still struggling with, digesting the experince, yet to fully integrate its lessons -- their views provide less value to me. All of which is your way of saying the Rajas and Kings trip looks ducky to you? And why would you suggest that? I said nothing as to my views of the raja thing. As we all do at times -- i am a great offender at times -- you are perhaps seeing something on the page that is not there. If not on the page, where is it? In my experience, such things are in my head, not on the page. It occurs when I read something with other than a fresh view, and impose some pre-judgement on the poster as to their views. But since you aparently asked (implied an inquiry) my views, at a minimum, I can see other /additonal possibilities for some rajas other than: * incredible nonsense * the pinnacle of an infantile dependant * see, all these years were not a waste and did pay off * some of us have become divine beings * we are now worthy of being worshiped'. And I can see other /additonal possibilities for some meditators other than: * continue[ing] playing the role of dependant child a little longer after MMY kicks the bucket * feeling protected by their newly coronated royal lineage * while totally reinforcing the projection that they are in fact separate individuals on a cosmic journey * [a view that] one day too they will also finally become 'worthy', keeping the game going at all cost, even if the cost is the last remnant of commonsense. * it's insanity on a high scale and a display of the sense of separation in one of its more outrageous and ridiculous manifestations! As far as being ducky, I am no longer in the habit of a continually judging everything I see as good/bad/ducky/sucky. More of the time, I drop that clutter of the (monkey) mind, and just say oh. Observation observed. Interesting. Unless I need to actually make a personal decisioon on something, why jugge it as good or bad. And even If I judge it as not ducky for me, I decide this action or non-action, that does not imply or extend to a view that it serves no value for some others. The topic of the post was the over the top weirdness going on in Vlodrop these days. You say you know these guys from their posts. Your armchair analysis of this particular guy's present mental state couldn't be more off-base. Since you have not disclosed who it is, I am not in a position to specifically comment on this person's degree of digesting his skin-boy experience. But judging by the above comment, he seems prone to extremes, and ranting -- as some, not all, former skinboys are, IMO. A sign, IMO, of undigested / unintegrated experiences For example, incredible nonsense and the pinnacle of an infantile dependant relationship to life. This seems characteristic of an obsession with, seeing things that are perhaps reflective of his continuing struggle with his past demons -- al la how could I have been so duped. Blah, blah, blah blah blah. Damn, you take a long time to answer a simple question! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few months back on 60 Minutes I saw an interview with a political writer in Florida who said the best way to deal with corrupt politicians is to make fun of them. IOW, use humor. They can't stand that. I would have to agree. And for the person doing the commentary, if they're good at what they do, they're actually *laughing* as they write it, not angry. Except for a few participants here we progressives are pretty much preaching to the choir. Gotta agree. And the best way to deal with those who feel compelled to preach to the choir is to make fun of them. :-) However there is a difference between preaching to the choir and discussing a topic among folks with like minds. :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shemp fancies himself a libertarian but I don't even think he knows what one is. He sounds like the Ayn Rand variety but I'm not even sure of that. I just think he's confused. :) I don't agree. After long experience with Shemp's provocative posts both here and on a.m.t., and more than a few exchanges in which he succeeded in provoking me :-), I think he's pondered many of the stances he takes here deeply. LOL! I think most people here think of his stances as flip. :) My only question is about the *input* for this pondering. I don't understand how he could have seen the same things I've seen in America and hold those views. I have to believe that we've lived in different places and seen a different America. Try Canada in case you forgot. And that's Ok. I am the first to admit that my view of America is pretty jaundiced. That view is highly colored by living in New Mexico (2nd poorest state in the nation) for six years. I saw a different set of This is America photos there than the ones you see in the glossy brochures. I think it is his profession that jaundices Shemp's view. It is pretty typical of some of the financial people I know. It tends to be, in spite of their profession, a lack of seeing the bigger picture especially in terms of economics and too much one-dimensional thinking. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Shemp fancies himself a libertarian but I don't even think he knows what one is. He sounds like the Ayn Rand variety but I'm not even sure of that. I just think he's confused. :) I don't agree. After long experience with Shemp's provocative posts both here and on a.m.t., and more than a few exchanges in which he succeeded in provoking me :-), I think he's pondered many of the stances he takes here deeply. My only question is about the *input* for this pondering. I don't understand how he could have seen the same things I've seen in America and hold those views. I have to believe that we've lived in different places and seen a different America. Recast a bit, I think Shemp raises some good and reasonable points. For example: * Steps to address Global Climate Change should be subject to cost-benefit analysis and ranked along with competing social needs/opportunities. * There are different levels of lack in the world * The term 'poverty is relative to its social context. * There have been many mass(million+)-murdering tyrants and movements in long and recent history. - We should keep that as some context when looking viewing and analyzing current autrocities. - We should include awareness of those means in any ends achieved by such. However, IMO, its his polarized polemics, highly-charge with 'power/skunk words in his exposition of such, and his apparent superficial study of underlying issues of some of these ares (e.g., global climate change), IMO hugely diminish the effectiveness of his catalyzing intelligent discussion and/or expaning anyones views on the topic. Probably I see these faults in Shemps expositions, because I have done or do the same in some areas -- to some degree -- perhaps more, perhaps less. One focuses on perceived faults in others when, though perhaps not only, they have or are dealing with that trait within themselves. Thus, the value I find in Shemps polarizations and simplistic renditions is as a cautionary tale -- and/or stimulus to search deep within to see if i do the same in some areas. And to root it out if I do. As a reader, I might start to take Shemp seriously if he toned down the rhetoric and black-and-white analysis, and presented the issues he raises in more humble, studied and approachable terms. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's handpicked successor (Lawson's- Tired Old Anoop Chandola Story)
sparaig wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: sparaig / Lawson English wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: Lawson English wrote: As I said, you appear unable to understand what you furnish theURL for. Namaste Sir Lawson Ji, i took the libery to snip this..easy to read. i must politely take exception with your assessment of my understanding of the URL i provide. The higher court said that the lower court said that the will was valid and that SBS was of sound mind when he wrote it. Sir Lawson Ji..where did you read in the URL that SBS wrote a will? You *assume facts not in evidence*!! please see page 792 ..Before his death, he executed a will which was published on June 8, 1953.. http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html He was in disposing mind when He signed the will. However that was disputed by the committee, and it was within ashram custom to nominate anyone they choose... please see page 792 ..and that in accordance with the custom and the rules of the Math, they were entitled to instal a person nominated by them as the Head of the Math... http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html Which was acceptable with both the Lower District Court, and the Supreme Court as Swami Krishnabodha Ji was a legally recognized Shankaracharya and accepted by other Mathas as well. No mention was made to the order of the will in the URL you provided. Sir Lawson Ji, i must politely inquire-*CAN YOU READ?*.. reference page 792 ..By the will, he nominated a panel of 4 persons in-order of choice indicated in the will to succeed him as head of the Math. His first choice was Swami Shantanand Saraswati, respondent No. 1. Respondent No. 1 accepted the office, He was installed as Shankaracharya of the Math on June 12, 1953.. http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html As to the rest, the question now arises: who is vomptent to choose SBS's successor? SBS or the group of scholars? Sir Lawson Ji, i must politely take exception of your *Skewd Understanding* of the *FACTS* the group of scholars were the persons that set up the ashram in 1940. Please see page 792 ..In 1940, a society known as Bharat Dharma Maha - Mandal or Kashi made an effort to discover the Math and the effort proved successful. The relics of the Math were found near Badrikashram. The land on which the relics were found along with certain other property on the banks of Varuna in Kashi was acquired by the Society and thereafter the Society created an endowment of the land by a deed dated April 11, 1941 in favour of Jyotir Math and Swami Brahmanand Saraswati (Brahmanand for short), a man renowned for his piety and vedic learning was installed as the Head of the Math. Brahmanand died on May 20, 1953 http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html The fact of the matter is that THEY ignored SBS's will completely and chose someone who wasn't even listed. And, that was *COMPLETELY WITHIN ASHRAM CUSTOM* as i pointed out above! The court said that the plaintiffs said that this was within ashram custom. The court didn't rule on this either way... The court found: snip snip Namsate Sir Lawson Ji, Now that we have agreed on what the Courts have found. Can you please answer three simple questions? OK, we agree. Namaste Sir Lawson Ji, Then perhaps you would care answer three very simple questions. Or are you afraid to expose your *Blind Faith* which is now beginning to qualify as *Brainwashing*!! Or are you operating under a Delusional Belief System? Here we go again for the 3rd time! Question #1. *Why was it nessaccary for Swami Shantanand to *LIE about his past*? Sir Lawson Ji response here.. Question #2. And, what would motivate Swami Shantinand to *LIE*?... (Although to his credit Swami Shantinand quit his charade and-, gave up this nonsense of claiming the title of Shankaracharya.) Sir Lawson Ji response here.. Question #3. If nearly every statement in Shantinand's book 'Om Sri Jyothirmath was a *LIE*, and the fact Swami Shantinand eventually gave the nonsense of claiming title of Shankarcharya, was there ever any statement made by Swami Shantinand from June 1953 to 1980 that was true? Sir Lawson Ji response here.. As, i said.., i have no interest in this matter other than to show you the fallacy of your- Tired Old Anoop Chandola Story. As it is a fact your pal Anoop Chandola intentionally took advantage of a gullible western. Please see realvant issues cited regarding Swami Shantinand/ Ramji Trpathi.. a. *legal Fact* the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: My only question is about the *input* for this pondering. I don't understand how he could have seen the same things I've seen in America and hold those views. I have to believe that we've lived in different places and seen a different America. Try Canada in case you forgot. I lived in Toronto for three years. And I've roadtripped through most of the rest of Canada. And that's Ok. I am the first to admit that my view of America is pretty jaundiced. That view is highly colored by living in New Mexico (2nd poorest state in the nation) for six years. I saw a different set of This is America photos there than the ones you see in the glossy brochures. I think it is his profession that jaundices Shemp's view. It is pretty typical of some of the financial people I know. It tends to be, in spite of their profession, a lack of seeing the bigger picture especially in terms of economics and too much one-dimensional thinking. I'm replying because I want to drop all this talk of Shemp and home in on your suggestion that working in the financial field can have a profound effect on people. I have to admit that I have noticed this, too. I've done consulting work for banks, brokerage houses, mutual funds, and insurance companies. And I found that the chances of running into a liberal there were not good. Curious. There's a Ph.D. thesis in there somewhere... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's handpicked successor (Lawson's- Delusional Belief System)
Namaste Sir Lawson Ji, Then perhaps you would care answer three very simple questions. Or are you afraid to expose your *Blind Faith* which is now beginning to qualify as *Brainwashing*!! Or are you operating under a Delusional Belief System? Here we go again for the 3rd time! Question #1. *Why was it nessaccary for Swami Shantanand to *LIE about his past*? Sir Lawson Ji response here.. Question #2. And, what would motivate Swami Shantinand to *LIE*?... (Although to his credit Swami Shantinand quit his charade and-, gave up this nonsense of claiming the title of Shankaracharya.) Sir Lawson Ji response here.. Question #3. If nearly every statement in Shantinand's book 'Om Sri Jyothirmath was a *LIE*, and the fact Swami Shantinand eventually gave the nonsense of claiming title of Shankarcharya, was there ever any statement made by Swami Shantinand from June 1953 to 1980 that was true? Sir Lawson Ji response here.. As, i said.., i have no interest in this matter other than to show you the fallacy of your- Tired Old Anoop Chandola Story. As it is a fact your pal Anoop Chandola intentionally took advantage of a gullible western. Please see realvant issues cited regarding Swami Shantinand/ Ramji Trpathi.. a. *legal Fact* the publication of the will, which surfaced weeks after Sri BrahmanandJi's passing. Inspite of Swami Shantanand's claim-, Item #1). A fully executed will of Sri BrahmanandJi was deposited in Allhalabad on December 18, 1952. (1st paragraph page 2 of 'Om Sri Jyothirmath') b. Swami Shantinand was a poor choice because of the *Legal Fact* he could not comprehend sanskrit nor the Vedas. Inspite of Swami Shantinand's claim-, He was completely qualified the hold the seat as he was literate in Sanskrit and the Vedas. (2nd paragraph page 2 of 'Om Sri Jyothirmath') c. At issue was the fact that Swami Shantanand was installed in Sri BrahmanandJi's gaddi by Brahmachari Mahesh and few friends that thought the will could be credible. As, Dana Sawyer Professor of Religion and Philoshpy at Maine College of Art has pointed out. Inspite of Swami Shantinand's claim-, Item #2). He was installed in Varansi in the presence of hundreds of scholars from all over the country (2nd paragraph page 3 of 'Om Sri Jyothirmath') d. At issue were the suspicious behavior and motivations of Brahmachari Mahesh at about the time of Sri BrahmanandJi's passing. ..In fact, the earliest doubts about the will left by Brahmananda Saraswati were linked to suspicion of the motives and actions of Mahesh Yogi (then called Mahesh Brahmachari)... http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/position/shank-jyot-ascii.html e. From the Kropinski interview of Oct. 1986 with the only lawfully recognized Shankaracharya of Jyosimutt. ...He said, word came to me that he (Shantinand) had requested to be allowed on the stage. I allowed him to be present only because he has given up this nonsense of claiming title to Shankaracharya... http://minet.org/Documents/shank-1 sparaig wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: sparaig / Lawson English wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: Lawson English wrote: As I said, you appear unable to understand what you furnish theURL for. Namaste Sir Lawson Ji, i took the libery to snip this..easy to read. i must politely take exception with your assessment of my understanding of the URL i provide. The higher court said that the lower court said that the will was valid and that SBS was of sound mind when he wrote it. Sir Lawson Ji..where did you read in the URL that SBS wrote a will? You *assume facts not in evidence*!! please see page 792 ..Before his death, he executed a will which was published on June 8, 1953.. http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html He was in disposing mind when He signed the will. However that was disputed by the committee, and it was within ashram custom to nominate anyone they choose... please see page 792 ..and that in accordance with the custom and the rules of the Math, they were entitled to instal a person nominated by them as the Head of the Math... http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html Which was acceptable with both the Lower District Court, and the Supreme Court as Swami Krishnabodha Ji was a legally recognized Shankaracharya and accepted by other Mathas as well. No mention was made to the order of the will in the URL you provided. Sir Lawson Ji, i must politely inquire-*CAN YOU READ?*.. reference page 792 ..By the will, he nominated a panel of 4 persons in-order of choice indicated in the will to succeed him as head of the Math. His first choice was Swami Shantanand Saraswati, respondent No. 1. Respondent No. 1 accepted the office, He was installed as Shankaracharya of the Math on June 12, 1953..
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tell Democrats that terrorists are gay Republicans...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The democratic guy in Massachussettes recently resigned for being a closet gay. I've been trying to figure out who you were thinking of. It just occurs to me that you might have meant New Jersey rather than Massachusetts, and were referring to Jim McGreevey, the former governor. If so, he didn't resign for being gay; he resigned because he had appointed his lover to a government job, among other questionable actions. He did come out in his resignation speech, but the quasi-nepotism issue would have been the same had he been straight and his lover a woman. New Jerseyans were a lot more upset by the nepotism and other issues than they were by his sexual preference (although more surprised by the latter). (What precipitated his resignation was that his by-then-former lover had threatened to sue him for sexual harassment, after having resigned and then demanded to have his job back, which McGreevey refused. His former lover never pursued the lawsuit.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] New Program for DC Course
Title: Applicants come NOW Subject: New Community Course Program for Bethesda Invincible America Course To UNSUBSCRIBE from this email list click here Dear Governors and Sidhas, As you probably know, the Invincible America Course continues to blossom for all Course Participants in its beautiful progression of experiences of Higher States of Consciousness and life-changing commentaries on those experiences by Maharishi. After a brief pause in the daily meetings with Maharishi during the Raja and Raj Rajeshwari coronation in Vlodrop, the experience sessions have resumed without missing a beat in their richness, warmth, depth and divinity. Maharishi has described that the experiences of all of the CPs are on a slippery slope as they progress to the experience of ever finer levels of Self Referral Consciousness, the junction point, the Constitution of the Universe, from where the administration of the universe is carried out effortlessly. And today he reiterated that we want to repeat these experiences over and over again in the long programs on the Course so that the fibers of the brain become habituated to function on this level all the time and thereby that bliss, that balanced state, is all the time on the level of the mind, intellect and ego. This is such a unique and rare opportunity for everyone. It is no exaggeration to say that everyone who comes on the Course simply does not want to leave! With this, we want to accomplish 2 goals: To enable as many of you as possible to join the Course for a day, a weekend, a week, or longer; and To support our permanent group of Course Participants that are on scholarship to help create an Invincible Washington DC area and Invincible America. There is a wonderfully complementary relationship between the larger group size and deeper experiences, so we want to keep our group big and growing! And Maharishi has asked that we do everything possible to keep a large group here in the DC area. To do this, we have created 3 new, flexible Come Anytime plans to participate in the Course , including the beautiful experience sessions with Maharishi. So here is how you can easily and flexibly join the Course and support the group: Normal Course Fee: $25/day (housing and meals separate); Come Anytime Weekends Course Plan: $108 (54% savings) come any or all weekends (Saturdays and Sundays) of a month (housing and meals separate) Come Anytime Monthly Course Plan: $200 (73% savings) come anytime during a month ( housing and meals separate) Come Anytime Six Month Course Plan: $1,080 (76% savings) come anytime during a six month period (housing and meals separate) Also, vegetarian lunches and dinners are available for $15/meal if you reserve by noon the day before. Our desire is that every Governor and Sidha joins one of these plans. By doing this, you will enjoy rapid growth to Enlightenment personally, you will provide the financial support for our
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tell Democrats that terrorists are gay Republicans...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: snip The democratic guy in Massachussettes recently resigned for being a closet gay. I've been trying to figure out who you were thinking of. It just occurs to me that you might have meant New Jersey rather than Massachusetts, and were referring to Jim McGreevey, the former governor. Gerry Studds. Was a Democratic member of the House of Representatives from Mass. who was gay and buggered a 17-year-old page. He was censured for it but got three standing ovations from his Democrat colleagues. If so, he didn't resign for being gay; he resigned because he had appointed his lover to a government job, among other questionable actions. He did come out in his resignation speech, but the quasi-nepotism issue would have been the same had he been straight and his lover a woman. New Jerseyans were a lot more upset by the nepotism and other issues than they were by his sexual preference (although more surprised by the latter). (What precipitated his resignation was that his by-then-former lover had threatened to sue him for sexual harassment, after having resigned and then demanded to have his job back, which McGreevey refused. His former lover never pursued the lawsuit.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc's Theory of How to Interpret Political Posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Shemp fancies himself a libertarian but I don't even think he knows what one is. He sounds like the Ayn Rand variety but I'm not even sure of that. I just think he's confused. :) I don't agree. After long experience with Shemp's provocative posts both here and on a.m.t., and more than a few exchanges in which he succeeded in provoking me :-), I think he's pondered many of the stances he takes here deeply. My only question is about the *input* for this pondering. I don't understand how he could have seen the same things I've seen in America and hold those views. I have to believe that we've lived in different places and seen a different America. Recast a bit, I think Shemp raises some good and reasonable points. For example: * Steps to address Global Climate Change should be subject to cost-benefit analysis and ranked along with competing social needs/opportunities. * There are different levels of lack in the world * The term 'poverty is relative to its social context. * There have been many mass(million+)-murdering tyrants and movements in long and recent history. - We should keep that as some context when looking viewing and analyzing current autrocities. - We should include awareness of those means in any ends achieved by such. However, IMO, its his polarized polemics, highly-charge with 'power/skunk words in his exposition of such, and his apparent superficial study of underlying issues of some of these ares (e.g., global climate change), IMO hugely diminish the effectiveness of his catalyzing intelligent discussion and/or expaning anyones views on the topic. Probably I see these faults in Shemps expositions, because I have done or do the same in some areas -- to some degree -- perhaps more, perhaps less. One focuses on perceived faults in others when, though perhaps not only, they have or are dealing with that trait within themselves. Thus, the value I find in Shemps polarizations and simplistic renditions is as a cautionary tale -- and/or stimulus to search deep within to see if i do the same in some areas. And to root it out if I do. As a reader, I might start to take Shemp seriously if he toned down the rhetoric and black-and-white analysis, and presented the issues he raises in more humble, studied and approachable terms. Geez, this guy knows me better than I know myself. I think his assessment is pretty right on. Yes, it's true my rhetoric is very black and white...and provocative. That's me and I suppose I could win friends and influence people alot better if I did a more humble etc. approach. But who has the patience, especially with Judy hanging around. Did you know that Judy actually once questioned whether she would continue doing TM after a round of exchanges with me? So if I tone down my rhetoric we won't have precious moments like that anymore. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tell Democrats that terrorists are gay Republicans...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: snip The democratic guy in Massachussettes recently resigned for being a closet gay. I've been trying to figure out who you were thinking of. It just occurs to me that you might have meant New Jersey rather than Massachusetts, and were referring to Jim McGreevey, the former governor. Gerry Studds. No, Studds didn't resign, and that was around 25 years ago, so it wasn't recent. Was a Democratic member of the House of Representatives from Mass. who was gay and buggered a 17-year-old page. The relationship was consensual, and the page was over the age of consent, according to the law at the time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rajas and Kings-Victory Day Musings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Written by a long time former personal secretary of MMY. (Rick, you know who it is.) What incredible nonsense and the pinnacle of an infantile dependant relationship to life. The whole message here is that, see, all these years were not a waste and did pay off as at least some of us have become divine beings after all and are now worthy of being worshiped'. On the other hand, the appeal for all the TM supplicants is that they can continue playing the role of dependant child a little longer after MMY kicks the bucket and feel protected by their newly coronated royal lineage, all the while totally reinforcing the projection that they are in fact separate individuals on a cosmic journey and that surely one day too they will also finally become 'worthy', but above all keep the game going at all cost, even if the cost is the last remnant of commonsense. The self-proclaimed 'royal rulers of the age of enlightenment' playing court to His Majesty Raja Nada Ramm ... it's insanity on a high scale and a display of the sense of separation in one of its more outrageous and ridiculous manifestations! Eh, I just see a bunch of people doing what their guru told them to... Is he not YOUR guru as well? Er, no. Technbically, he's not supposed to be THEIR guru either, but they've put themselves into a place where they answer to his every whim, so its not much of a practical distinction, if any... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rajas and Kings-Victory Day Musings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: geezerfreak wrote: Written by a long time former personal secretary of MMY. (Rick, you know who it is.) What incredible nonsense and the pinnacle of an infantile dependant relationship to life. The whole message here is that, see, all these years were not a waste and did pay off as at least some of us have become divine beings after all and are now worthy of being worshiped'. On the other hand, the appeal for all the TM supplicants is that they can continue playing the role of dependant child a little longer after MMY kicks the bucket and feel protected by their newly coronated royal lineage, all the while totally reinforcing the projection that they are in fact separate individuals on a cosmic journey and that surely one day too they will also finally become 'worthy', but above all keep the game going at all cost, even if the cost is the last remnant of commonsense. The self-proclaimed 'royal rulers of the age of enlightenment' playing court to His Majesty Raja Nada Ramm ... it's insanity on a high scale and a display of the sense of separation in one of its more outrageous and ridiculous manifestations! In most Indian traditions including mine when you get a title that means you can do something like teach certain things. Can any of these rajas do that or are these just empty pompous titles? I suspect the latter. They're officially the regional heads of the TMO. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tell Democrats that terrorists are gay Republicans...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: snip The democratic guy in Massachussettes recently resigned for being a closet gay. I've been trying to figure out who you were thinking of. It just occurs to me that you might have meant New Jersey rather than Massachusetts, and were referring to Jim McGreevey, the former governor. Gerry Studds. No, Studds didn't resign, and that was around 25 years ago, so it wasn't recent. Was a Democratic member of the House of Representatives from Mass. who was gay and buggered a 17-year-old page. The relationship was consensual, and the page was over the age of consent, according to the law at the time. ...so you approve of and celebrate the relationship... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] yr query dt 4th Oct on Brahmcharya (celibacy)
It is said (recollecting it estimatingly) that the greatest celibate everin the universe was Lord Maheshvara. By his constant tapas he created the whole universe (vishvamaya).As theembodiment of thiscreateduniverse came along Goddess Ratri in the most splendid form. She became so overwhealmingly beautiful, that she daily came closer to his creator amd by thiswas able to get Shiva out of his deep concentrated state, naturally seeking for unification with her. The yearly festival of Mahashivaratri in Indiais heralding this holy procedure. Theories on celibacy of that kind, even if they get testimonied by holy literature, are same as all half knowledge very dangerous. To be in sexual pleasure does not necessary mean that you are losing semen. And losing semen does not in all cases mean that you are losing strength. To try toavoid the thought of the attraction of a woman is for sure as useless as trying to push a ball under water in the hope that it will stay there. Between loss and gain in life is a invisible line of equivalency. The perfect yogi is neither having too much nor too little of it. Every extreme attitude hence leads sooner or laterto the opposite extreme. And this even the furthermorewill not lead to any lasting enlightenment. Hagen - Original Message - From: rama krishna To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 9:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] yr query dt 4th Oct on Brahmcharya (celibacy) Atman Robert, Jai Gurudev! This has refrence to yr query dt Oct 4th on Celibacy. Both the Hindu and Tibetan spiritual practices lay a great emphasis on Brahmcharya(Celibacy). The Patanjali Yog Sutras also talks of importance of continence. Here are some quotes from various sources: -"Brahmacharya or spotless chastity is the best of all penances; a celibate of such spotless chastity is not a human being, but a god indeed... To the celibate who conserves the semen with great efforts, what is there unattainable in this world? By the power of the composure of the semen, one will become just like myself. "- Lord Sankara "Caution in diet is of threefold value, but abstinence from sexual intercourse is of fourfold value. The Sannyasi had, and has a rule never to look at a woman. "- Atreya "Let not a Brahmin see a woman naked." - Manu "There is no doubt that people die prematurely by letting the semen out of the body; knowing this, the Yogi should always preserve semen and lead a life of strict celibacy." Siva Samhita -"And those students who find that world of God through chastity, their is that heavenly country; theirs in whatever world they are, is freedom." - Chhandogya Upanisad -"A wise man should avoid married life as if it were a burning pit of live coals. From the contact comes sensation, from sensation thirst, from thirst clinging, by ceasing from that, the soul is delivered from all sinful existence." - Lord Buddha "These sexual propensities, though they are at first like ripple, acquire the proportions of a sea on account of a bad company. Whenever the mental image of a woman crops up in your mind with evil thoughts, repeat mentally "Om Durgaa Devyai Namah " and do mental prostrations." - Swami Vivekananda "Know that in this world there is nothing that cannot be attained by one who remains from birth to death a perfect celibate . In one person, knowledge of the four Vedas, and in another, perfect celibacy- of these, the latter is superior to the former who is wanting in celibacy." - The Mahabharat "All men and youngmen in particular, can experience the immediate benefit of chastity. The memory is quiet and tenacious, the brain lively and fertile, the will energetic, the whole character gains a strength of which libertines have no conception, no prism show us our surroundings under such heavenly colours as that of chastity, which lights up with its rays the least objects in the universe and transports us into the purest joys of an abiding happiness that shows neither shadow neither decline. " - Prof. Montagaza "This seed (semen) is marrow to your bones, food to your brains, oil to your joints and sweetness to your breath and if you are a man, you should never loose a drop of it, until you are fully thirty years of age and then only for the purpose of having a child which shall be blessed by heaven and really one of the inmates of the kingdom of heaven by being born again. " - Dr. Molvil Keith M.D. Chastity no more injures the body and the soul, self-discipline is better than any other line of conduct. - Sir James Pagen "It is a singularly false notion... the notion of imaginary dangers in absolute continence. Virginity is a physical, moral and intellectual safeguard to youngmen. " Here are
[FairfieldLife] New Program for DC Course
Come Anytime Weekends Course Plan: $108 (54% savings) come any or all weekends (Saturdays and Sundays) of a month (housing and meals separate) And so, we see once more, it's all about the money. --- George DeForest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Subject: New Community Course Program for Bethesda Invincible America Course Applicants come NOW To UNSUBSCRIBE from this email list click here Dear Governors and Sidhas, As you probably know, the Invincible America Course continues to blossom for all Course Participants in its beautiful progression of experiences of Higher States of Consciousness and life-changing commentaries on those experiences by Maharishi. After a brief pause in the daily meetings with Maharishi during the Raja and Raj Rajeshwari coronation in Vlodrop, the experience sessions have resumed without missing a beat in their richness, warmth, depth and divinity. Maharishi has described that the experiences of all of the CPs are on a slippery slope as they progress to the experience of ever finer levels of Self Referral Consciousness, the junction point, the Constitution of the Universe, from where the administration of the universe is carried out effortlessly. And today he reiterated that we want to repeat these experiences over and over again in the long programs on the Course so that the fibers of the brain become habituated to function on this level all the time and thereby that bliss, that balanced state, is all the time on the level of the mind, intellect and ego. This is such a unique and rare opportunity for everyone. It is no exaggeration to say that everyone who comes on the Course simply does not want to leave! With this, we want to accomplish 2 goals: To enable as many of you as possible to join the Course for a day, a weekend, a week, or longer; and To support our permanent group of Course Participants that are on scholarship to help create an Invincible Washington DC area and Invincible America. There is a wonderfully complementary relationship between the larger group size and deeper experiences, so we want to keep our group big and growing! And Maharishi has asked that we do everything possible to keep a large group here in the DC area. To do this, we have created 3 new, flexible Come Anytime plans to participate in the Course , including the beautiful experience sessions with Maharishi. So here is how you can easily and flexibly join the Course and support the group: Normal Course Fee: $25/day (housing and meals separate); Come Anytime Weekends Course Plan: $108 (54% savings) come any or all weekends (Saturdays and Sundays) of a month (housing and meals separate) Come Anytime Monthly Course Plan: $200 (73% savings) come anytime during a month ( housing and meals separate) Come Anytime Six Month Course Plan: $1,080 (76% savings) come anytime during a six month period (housing and meals separate) Also, vegetarian lunches and dinners are available for $15/meal if you reserve by noon the day before.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tell Democrats that terrorists are gay Republicans...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: snip The democratic guy in Massachussettes recently resigned for being a closet gay. I've been trying to figure out who you were thinking of. It just occurs to me that you might have meant New Jersey rather than Massachusetts, and were referring to Jim McGreevey, the former governor. Gerry Studds. No, Studds didn't resign, and that was around 25 years ago, so it wasn't recent. Was a Democratic member of the House of Representatives from Mass. who was gay and buggered a 17-year-old page. The relationship was consensual, and the page was over the age of consent, according to the law at the time. ...so you approve of and celebrate the relationship... Time for your anti-hallucination medication, Shemp. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Remember the Coalition of the Willing in Iraq?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 5, 2006, at 8:00 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Original levels of the Coalition of the willing in 2003 were ~50,000 troops. Current levels are as follows: 1 United Kingdom 7,200 2 South Korea ~3,000 (~2,000 by end of 2006) 3 Italy 1,785 (0 by Dec. 2006) 4 Australia 1,400 5 Poland 900 (0 by end of 2006) 6 Romania 865 7 Denmark 515 8 El Salvador 380 9 Georgia 300 10 Azerbaijan 150 11 Bulgaria ~150 12 Latvia 136 13 Mongolia 131 14 Albania 120 15 Slovakia 104 16 Czech Republic 100 17 Lithuania ~50 18 Armenia 46 I knew we could count on Armenia for something besides rugs. Sal What do you mean!? ! The frozen dead guy on the beach in Armenia in 1986 had nothing to do with me ! ! OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Better Coldblueice obsess on MMY and how horrible he is than pursuing Capital pages! And FYI, I heard MMY still owes money on overdue library books in his home town. What a bastard! Enough to make me stop meditating! Yea, but look at it this way. How long do you thing Coldblue will continue to indulge Lawson. Now there is a nut, (wait, why am I using that term), not easily cracked. (Maybe this is the understand of the year) lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Fairfield ever get any pundits -- CAN'T FIND THE $190 MILLION!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip The great seer who claims he-, re-established the long lost Shankaracharya tradition, and all the lost Vedas.. It is so pathetic to hear of him now curled up in a log cabin in Holland blind and unable to walk don't you think? Dude, you came through with a response. I thought maybe I had silenced that prolific tongue. I'm sure the one you refer to as lil Mishmashi, will make propa arrangements when the time comes. Please excuse my somewhat brief response. I'm coming off a little bit of a rough day. Ever had one of those? lurk (Steve) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tell Democrats that terrorists are gay Republicans...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: snip The democratic guy in Massachussettes recently resigned for being a closet gay. I've been trying to figure out who you were thinking of. It just occurs to me that you might have meant New Jersey rather than Massachusetts, and were referring to Jim McGreevey, the former governor. If so, he didn't resign for being gay; he resigned because he had appointed his lover to a government job, among other questionable actions. He did come out in his resignation speech, but the quasi-nepotism issue would have been the same had he been straight and his lover a woman. New Jerseyans were a lot more upset by the nepotism and other issues than they were by his sexual preference (although more surprised by the latter). (What precipitated his resignation was that his by-then-former lover had threatened to sue him for sexual harassment, after having resigned and then demanded to have his job back, which McGreevey refused. His former lover never pursued the lawsuit.) You are right. That would be the one. And I am not even sure where New Jersey is and am quite happy being entrenched in that predicament. (Everywhere is downhill from Vermont) OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tell Democrats that terrorists are gay Republicans...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: What is the Drudge Report?sounds like some fat blogger sits at home and sometimes manages to use up some of the half sized brain he is limited to. You pretty much nailed it. I'd only add that Matt Drudge apparently also has some closet issues. That half sized brain changed the course of journalism in the world. ROFL ! Man, Shemp, I could write a Phd dissertation on the American introverted pea sized brain based solely on your posts. Are you actually a spoof ? OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tell Democrats that terrorists are gay Republicans...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: What is the Drudge Report?sounds like some fat blogger sits at home and sometimes manages to use up some of the half sized brain he is limited to. You pretty much nailed it. I'd only add that Matt Drudge apparently also has some closet issues. Just to add, he originally broke the Monica Lewinsky story and is enormously influential, a right-winger who is utterly without scruples. A lot of the time he posts sensationally scandalous gossip that has no basis in fact, but he also gets rather amazing scoops. If you're a journalist, you can't afford not to check his site first thing every morning. He's become an institution that nobody likes very much but who can't be ignored. Kinda like Benny Hill , but not not as smart? (and by the way, if anybody is asking...no... my brother did not kill Benny Hill ! ! !) OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Program for DC Course
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come Anytime Weekends Course Plan: $108 (54% savings) come any or all weekends (Saturdays and Sundays) of a month (housing and meals separate) And so, we see once more, it's all about the money. Actually it's a 54% savings :_) (less housing and meals, of course) JohnY --- George DeForest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Subject: New Community Course Program for Bethesda Invincible America Course Applicants come NOW To UNSUBSCRIBE from this email list click here Dear Governors and Sidhas, As you probably know, the Invincible America Course continues to blossom for all Course Participants in its beautiful progression of experiences of Higher States of Consciousness and life-changing commentaries on those experiences by Maharishi. After a brief pause in the daily meetings with Maharishi during the Raja and Raj Rajeshwari coronation in Vlodrop, the experience sessions have resumed without missing a beat in their richness, warmth, depth and divinity. Maharishi has described that the experiences of all of the CPs are on a slippery slope as they progress to the experience of ever finer levels of Self Referral Consciousness, the junction point, the Constitution of the Universe, from where the administration of the universe is carried out effortlessly. And today he reiterated that we want to repeat these experiences over and over again in the long programs on the Course so that the fibers of the brain become habituated to function on this level all the time and thereby that bliss, that balanced state, is all the time on the level of the mind, intellect and ego. This is such a unique and rare opportunity for everyone. It is no exaggeration to say that everyone who comes on the Course simply does not want to leave! With this, we want to accomplish 2 goals: To enable as many of you as possible to join the Course for a day, a weekend, a week, or longer; and To support our permanent group of Course Participants that are on scholarship to help create an Invincible Washington DC area and Invincible America. There is a wonderfully complementary relationship between the larger group size and deeper experiences, so we want to keep our group big and growing! And Maharishi has asked that we do everything possible to keep a large group here in the DC area. To do this, we have created 3 new, flexible Come Anytime plans to participate in the Course , including the beautiful experience sessions with Maharishi. So here is how you can easily and flexibly join the Course and support the group: Normal Course Fee: $25/day (housing and meals separate); Come Anytime Weekends Course Plan: $108 (54% savings) come any or all weekends (Saturdays and Sundays) of a month (housing and meals separate) Come Anytime Monthly Course Plan: $200 (73% savings) come anytime during a month ( housing and meals separate) Come Anytime Six Month Course Plan: $1,080 (76% savings) come anytime during a six month period (housing and meals
[FairfieldLife] New Program for DC Course ?
After a brief pause in the daily meetings with Maharishi during the Raja and Raj Rajeshwari coronation in Vlodrop, , Oh. Things are fast moving in the TmMovement and on FFL with quite a few posts, many of which are personal or run off topic. Skip a day or more and the FFL subjects get buried quick in unrelated stuff. This coronation? Rajas and Raginis. Rajeshwaris? Nadar Ram is at the top,right? Will he produce an heir, or is there a limit to the power charade when it comes to the TMorg estate? Inquirying FFL,the People magazine of the TMorg? Would they breed, anglo-heirs to the knowledge or just administrators? As much as folks grief about Guru Dev not publishing a last will, has anyone seen Maharishi's last will and testament for the movement or the TMorg estate recently? Is it getting late? Doug in FF To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Revalation of the week...
Shemp is actually a spoof. Thats funny stuff Shemp...I get it nowyou got me for a while there lol OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
