[FairfieldLife] Re: Will God Tell Michele Bachmann To Run For President?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip Barry's platform will be: I push your buttons for Jesus. His first act as president will be to strafe Atlantic City with cluster bombs in order to do away with you-know-who and then blame it on George Bush. You mean, blame George Bush for having strafed the wrong city? (BTW, you don't strafe with bombs, you strafe with bullets.) Fail Dumbass New Oxford American Dictionary strafe |str#257;f| verb [ trans. ] attack repeatedly with bombs or machine-gun fire from low-flying aircraft : military aircraft strafed the village. noun an attack from low-flying aircraft. See how stupid you are? If I thought you would put the knitting down I'd buy yas a dictionary.
[FairfieldLife] 'Does This Story 'Ring' True?'
'JFK's (CIA) Driver pulled the trigger!' http://community-2.webtv.net/Larry762/fontcolor3300FF/page4.html A few years ago, met someone in Sedona, AZ... Who said his father was a CIA guy, and he had been also... He invited me to see a ‘Secret CIA’ film he had, to show me: Of who really winged the murder shot, That killed President Kennedy, in broad day light. And why the limo slowed down, and why Jackie Kennedy tried to escape from the car... The whole thing, seemed to ‘Dark and Spooky’ at the time, so I never took him up, on his offer... Anyway, I was curious to see, what he had told me, would be documented on the ‘Internets’... But, it makes sense, in that it seems this dark shadow government has been pulling the strings behind the scenes, since that day, in Dallas, Texas...(‘Bush Terror-tory’) From that day on, we have been ‘At War’ with something, or other... First their was the Viet Nam war. The War on Poverty. The war on MLK The war on RFK The adoption of the ‘Southern Stategy’...war on liberals. The War on Drugs. The War on the Middle Class’ The War on People like John Lennon(Nixon’s hope to deport John) Reagan’s war on government, war on the poor, to scheister everything to the top, and expect it to ‘Trickle Down?’...what a joke he was! Hollywood movie actor, reading his lines, for you know who... Secret dealing with the Iranians, to sell weapons, sway the election, Contra/Drug running...flooding the market with cocaine. Big Biz Takeover of all media... Supreme court elects President, illegally. Cheney strengthens the ‘Shadow Government, with secret dealings.. More and more manipulation of the Wall St. dealings... Strengthening the grip of the military/ corporate takeover of America. Outsourcing of jobs, for cheap overseas labor... Invading Iraq, for oil, and not worrying about the 100,000’s people killed, maimed and terrorized. As he, like his friends are psychopaths, or one having no conscious, soul-less. The creation of war vehicles, to be sold to the general public(Hummers) A liar President who manipulated the Corporate owned media, to do his bidding... The false price gouging of the oil companies, to $4.50 a gallon. The stealing of 700 billion from the US treasury, as their last act in office, after they bankrupted the country.. The war on Liberal and Progressives by the Corporate[CIA] ‘’Christian-Reich Wing Media, like Fox, and all the rest of the ‘Brainwashed Soul-less Zombies’... Add your own
[FairfieldLife] Re: Will God Tell Michele Bachmann To Run For President?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (BTW, you don't strafe with bombs, you strafe with bullets.) Fail Dumbass Heehee. Department of Defense Dictionary of Military and Associated Terms (Joint Publication 1-02, Department of the Army, Department of the Navy): strafing The delivery of automatic weapons fire by aircraft on ground targets http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu6m7MpJKDCcApDdXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByMDhrMzdqBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkAw--/SIG=128h4id96/EXP=1251181627/**http%3a//www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/new_pubs/jp1_02.pdf http://tinyurl.com/n73kyt Punked again... New Oxford American Dictionary strafe |str#257;f| verb [ trans. ] attack repeatedly with bombs or machine-gun fire from low-flying aircraft : military aircraft strafed the village. noun an attack from low-flying aircraft. See how stupid you are? If I thought you would put the knitting down I'd buy yas a dictionary. Got a dictionary, tx. And it follows DOD. (That's spelled yez, BTW, and it's plural.)
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 4:55 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination? I always get mild flu-like symptoms for a few days after I get a flu shot. I'm sensitive to any medication, so I avoid it whenever possible. I allow myself to get a flu shot every two or three years and wonder if I'm playing Russian roulette on years I decide against it. I'm definitely getting a flu shot this year. I think we're going to see a doozy of a flu season this year, so I recommend that everyone get a shot. I work at a hospital and they strongly encourage us to get a free flu shot for hospital employees every year. When I don't take a shot I always get a form letter asking me to explain why. I don't think it's any of their business, but I understand they operate by the numbers and probably have statistical reports they have to fill out for the government. If we have a pandemic in the US, odds are we will, and a lot of people start showing up at the hospital for treatment, I don't want to get sick. Judy is correct, the more people we can protect with a flu shot the more likely we will avoid a pandemic. Gotta go. Dome time. I've never had a flu shot and I think I only got the flu once bad enough to have to lay low and just read a book for a few days. Most years I don't get sick at all, and if I do get a mild something or other after the sleep deprivation and crowds of an Amma event, it's usually not bad enough that I can't work or do normal things.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Republican Agenda'
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nelsonriddle2001 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:31 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Republican Agenda' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , babajii_99 babajii...@... wrote: Anti-Constitutional and want to establish a monied Monarchy.. Because they are: 'Of the Money, by the Money, and for the Money... Simple, huh? Money first, second and third...the people last on the list... If you have no money, to the Republicans, you just don't count...as a human being... Kind of demonic, don't ya think? r.g. As an opinion, I think the present administration trying to rewrite the first and second amendment is a problem. (amongst others) Might be if they were, but you're just expressing the usual right-wing habit of getting all wee-weed up (Obama's expression) over fabricated, unfounded fears.
[FairfieldLife] Beltway: the Left is to blame for health care battle
The prevailing Beltway wisdom has now ossified that the problem with the health care debate is that those hardened Leftist ideologues cling childishly and petulantly to their little public option fetish and their refusal to give it up is jeopardizing enactment of a reform bill. Just see The Washington Post Editorial Page, Post columnist Steve Pearlstein and Joe Klein -- and especially the below-documented behavior from Newsweek's Jonathan Alter -- this week blaming The Left, as always, for their childish extremism in the health care debate. As always, the obedient servitude of Blue Dogs and centrists to the industries that own Congress aren't obstructionist at all. Somehow, the refusal of Blue Dogs to vote for a plan with a public option isn't impeding anything; there's no reason they should give anything up, because they're just being moderate and centrist. As always, the way things should be done in Washington is that the proper scorn should be heaped on The Left until they're bullied into giving up what they believe so that Things Can Get Done (i.e., so that corporate dictates can be fulfilled). Read More: Glenn Greenwald Sunday Aug. 23, 2009 http://snipurl.com/qt634
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is Tom Barlow ------------- was////Willytex is on Medicare
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Aug 22, 2009, at 5:54 PM, off_world_beings wrote: I am 47 years old. I swim 80 lengths of butterfly most days - that is when I am not literally running up mountains, or cross-country skiing at the lodge. In winter, I drive to the lodge, ski for about 3 hours, then work in a local cafe for about 4-5 hours, then go ski or swim for about 1-2 hours, then go home or go out with friends. God, are you a little Vata or what? Actually, anything requiring that kind of endurance described by 'Off is not a vata trait, it's more kapha. Kapha doesn't necessarily mean lazy. It may indicate a resistance to activity up front, but once it gets going.it doesn't stop, and it gives the staying power to go to the end. I think a typical vata wouldn't have the endurance to go as long as offworld is describing here. Offworld's case may be a little different though. He was a competitive swimmer for several years. I was too, and I can tell you 80 laps at a comfortable pace at any stroke is easier than all the sprinting you do during district or state trials. 80 laps is probably a warm up for him, a way to wake up. seekliberation
[FairfieldLife] Re: Will God Tell Michele Bachmann To Run For President?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (BTW, you don't strafe with bombs, you strafe with bullets.) Fail Dumbass Heehee. Department of Defense Dictionary of Military and Associated Terms (Joint Publication 1-02, Department of the Army, Department of the Navy): strafing The delivery of automatic weapons fire by aircraft on ground targets http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu6m7MpJKDCcApDdXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByMDhrMzdqBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkAw--/SIG=128h4id96/EXP=1251181627/**http%3a//www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/new_pubs/jp1_02.pdf http://tinyurl.com/n73kyt Punked again... New Oxford American Dictionary strafe |str#257;f| verb [ trans. ] attack repeatedly with bombs or machine-gun fire from low-flying aircraft : military aircraft strafed the village. noun an attack from low-flying aircraft. See how stupid you are? If I thought you would put the knitting down I'd buy yas a dictionary. Got a dictionary, tx. And it follows DOD. (That's spelled yez, BTW, and it's plural.) Gunship strafing run video http://snipurl.com/qtnhh
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beltway: the Left is to blame for health care battle
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:45 AM, raunchydograunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: The prevailing Beltway wisdom has now ossified that the problem with the health care debate is that those hardened Leftist ideologues cling childishly and petulantly to their little public option fetish and their refusal to give it up is jeopardizing enactment of a reform bill. I needed my own health care bill last night. I was about to barf when I flipped to Larry King Live. Larry was interviewing both sides. The Rep was saying the government can't do anything right (like Iraq or Afghanistan?), so why give over our health care to the government. The Rep said that he didn't disagree that things are a mess and need fixing, so why not sit down in a room together and just fix what's wrong and it'll all stay as it is but be 1000% more efficient. Larry King, ass kisser he is, asked the Dem can't they just do that? He suggested the four of them just get into a room together and hammer out the inefficiencies. I thought it was agreed that the government can't do anything right? Yup, the Reps got so used to saying black and white and white is black for the last 8 years that they're getting away with it again. But then it's amazing what you can do with $million scripts and talking points produced by the insurance companies/lobbyists.
[FairfieldLife] Breaking: Baucus: I want a public option
Baucus is feeling the heat from the left. Jane Hamsher's pressure on the House for a public option hit the news after enough House Dems said they would not vote for a bill without it. Now the Senate Dems are running scared the bill will fail without a public option. WooHoo! Jane! You go girl! The Senate can push this through without the Republicans with a Senate reconciliation vote, a simple majority of 51. RD U.S. Senator Max Baucus has finally broken his silence regarding his personal position on including a public option in health care reform legislation. Last Monday night (8/17), in an unprecedented conference call to Montana Democratic central committee chairs, the powerful leader of the Senate Finance Committee told his strongest supporters that he supported a public option. While discussing the obstacles to getting a public option through the Senate, he assured his forty listeners, I want a public option too! The conference call was groundbreaking in that none of the recipients could ever remember this kind of call ever happening before. The teleconference was set up seemingly in reaction to rising discontent among the local Democratic leaders with the Senator's failure to take a clear position on the issue. The discussion, which became contentious and rancorous at times, also touched upon the wisdom of creating insurance cooperatives as an alternative to a public option. When several of the county chairs objected, commenting that they did not trust the health insurance companies to police themselves and limit their outrageous corporate profits, Baucus commented, Neither do I. In the aftermath of the teleconference, a coalition of eighteen Montana counties in the Senator's home state decided to move forward with their plan to issue a Unified Statement accompanied by a joint press release. The statement sends a loud and clear message to their Senator: Any health care reform package coming out of his Senate Finance Committee must contain, at a minimum, a provision for a strong public option. The action is a show of unity not previously seen in Montana political history. The statement asserts, Here in Montana, the need for real health care reform could not be greater. Families, small business, and small ranches and farms are suffering and being crushed by the rising cost of health care. Thousands of Montanans are uninsured, and many more are losing their homes, businesses and ranches due to exorbitant medical bills. Calling themselves the Coalition of the United Montana Democratic Central Committees, the group's statement announces it has established a position in support of a strong public option as an essential element in health care reform. In specifying the necessary components needed for such a public option, they list: National Coverage Availability to all Americans Portability, which includes maintaining coverage even if one loses his or her job No exclusions for preexisting conditions, denial of coverage if one gets ill, or develops catastrophic costs Publicly run and administered with full transparency and accountability to congress No triggers Christina Quijano, a Billings physician, is Chair of the Carbon County Democratic Central Committee. Carbon County is located in south-central Montana not far from Yellowstone National Park. Speaking for the Coalition, she pointed out, For this number of counties from all across Montana to join together sends a strong signal to our representatives in Washington that their constituents here in Big Sky Country are unified and stand firm in their insistence that a public option be included in any health care reform bill. Senator Jon Tester (D-Mont) has said he would not vote against a public option, while Montana's sole US representative, Denny Rehberg (R-Mont) remains opposed to such a measure. Max Baucus, Chair of the Senate Finance Committee, has emerged as a key player in the ongoing health care reform deliberations and, until now, has remained quiet about his personal view. In the final portion of the Coalition's Unified Statement, Quijano emphasizes Senator Baucus' significant role in this piece of legislation: We are counting on Senator Baucus to use his influence and leadership to create the most meaningful legacy of our times, real health care reform. 'Max, Montana's Senator', please don't let Montana down! Among the other counties in the Coalition is Missoula County, where Baucus got his start in politics as a State Representative. Also joining Carbon and Missoula Counties in adopting the Unified Statement are Beaverhead County, Dawson County, Fergus County, Golden Valley County, Hill County, Jefferson County, Lake County, Madison County, Meagher County, Ravalli County, Richland County, Roosevelt County, Rosebud County, Sheridan County, Sweet Grass County, and Teton County. I posted the actual resolution and my take on how this happened over at http://montanamaven.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beltway: the Left is to blame for health care battle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: Yup, the Reps got so used to saying black and white and white is black for the last 8 years that they're getting away with it again. But then it's amazing what you can do with $million scripts and talking points produced by the insurance companies/lobbyists. You Betcha!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is Tom Barlow ------------- was////Willytex is on Medicare
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , seekliberation seekliberat...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Aug 22, 2009, at 5:54 PM, off_world_beings wrote: I am 47 years old. I swim 80 lengths of butterfly most days - that is when I am not literally running up mountains, or cross-country skiing at the lodge. In winter, I drive to the lodge, ski for about 3 hours, then work in a local cafe for about 4-5 hours, then go ski or swim for about 1-2 hours, then go home or go out with friends. God, are you a little Vata or what? Actually, anything requiring that kind of endurance described by 'Off is not a vata trait, it's more kapha. I would agree with that. I'm nore Kapha-pitta, but with some vata when I need it. Kapha doesn't necessarily mean lazy. It may indicate a resistance to activity up front, but once it gets going.it doesn't stop, and it gives the staying power to go to the end. That's exactly right. I am VERY slow in the start of a work-out - people who see me must be laughing - but after a while, I get in the zone and things start flowing faster. Its because of the zone that I do it, especially with swimming butterfly and running up mountains (1,500 - 2,500 feet hieght climbed, depending on what I feel like - in 2 to 3 miles ) I think a typical vata wouldn't have the endurance to go as long as offworld is describing here. Offworld's case may be a little different though. He was a competitive swimmer for several years. I was too, and I can tell you 80 laps at a comfortable pace at any stroke is easier than all the sprinting you do during district or state trials. 80 laps is probably a warm up for him, a way to wake up. Its true what your saying about swimming. If I swim crawl I get bored out my mind but could swim for hours at a reasonable pace if I had to. Butterfly I could swim for a 100 lengths cruising. But in my work-out I use the first 40 lengths or so to exercise specific areas while I swim ( I focus on using only back muscles as much as I can for example, then switch to focus on only front muscles, then I focus on the punch forward, and so on ) - so I'm pretty shagged-out by the time I get past 40 lengths, since its a harder form of butterfly than just cruising. The rest of the lengths are a creative mix of butterfly and other things, so I end up doing 100 to 130 lengths total. Now, I'm off jogging - on the flat, which is my worst sport. Its easier for me to run up a mountain than to run on the flat. There is an old railway track (now a bike path) that goes out into the lake for about 3 miles, so you are just out there with nothing but lake on either side.) Good call on the kapha trait. OffWorld seekliberation
[FairfieldLife] Rajas
Does any one have the e-mail address of all or any of TM movement Rajas?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Denied, to Invincible America
Folks saying good-bye. The last few days I learned that five long-time friends are leaving Fairfield now. From different circles. Long-time meditators. From different parts of the meditating community. Used to be folks figured how to come to FF to be in the domes for group meditation . The sacrifice and excitment was about being in the domes meditating in group. Seems lot of you writing here don't seem to live close to Fairfield. Some kind of interest in Fairfieldlife but not living here in FF. Not being here you may not see the complexion of the meditating community in FF. Fact is there are a lot more FF meditators in town outside of the domes than inside the domes. With people out and dome numbers chronically down, that gathering impetus is less. Has been for some while. Too many turned out who are here as meditators is a number that does eats at the dome community. An administrative problem evidently that is the status quo. Trouble in FF, http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html Trouble in FF. Well, evidently meditator FF folk recently re-registering are being asked at registration if they have 'seen' other saints. Responding 'yes', these TM meditators are denied re-registration on the spot. Raja John Hagelin is aware of this? Its consequent in the meditating community just by word of mouth on the numbers of people who could be doing program in the domes? Does Hagelin know? Would seem like Hagelin is getting stabbed in the back by his dogmatic doctrinal types within TMmovement administration. Must be mighty frustrating in there for Hagelin while his dome numbers sag the meditating community gets distanced from the the movement again like this. Sad to watch tragedy like his. Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:12:39 -0500 Subject: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin From: Invincible America communication@ The July 2009 Invincible America Assembly was perfect in every way. - IA Course Participant Now it's August. Many visitors have left. Our Super Radiance numbers are in a lull until the MUM students return and the next group of Maharishi Vedic Pandits arrive. We urgently need all local Sidhas to attend morning and evening programs. Thank you for being here in wonderful Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. JAI GURU DEV
[FairfieldLife] Re: Willytex - no children, elderly parents to look after ?
OffWorld: Willtex - I assume from your generally selfish attitude, you have no kids, disabled kids, or sick family members, or elderly parents to look after? Well, I fail to see the connection between my group policy and my elderly parents. They have private insurance and Medicare and Medicaid - they're not on my group policy. My kids are all grown up. I told my kids to get a job that has a group policy, and to save their money. I told them to not to rely on the government for their welfare. As for the selfish attitude, I think that anyone who wants to saddle the young people with trillions of dollars of debt are the one's with the selfish attitude. According to what I've read, each family in the U.S. owes the government over $17,000 dollars for the bail-out in order to get the country out of debt. I wonder how much that figure is in Britain - apparently the whole U.K. is on the verge of bankruptcy. You Brits can't even win a single battle. Go figure. Medicaid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicaid
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: snip I've never had a flu shot and I think I only got the flu once bad enough to have to lay low and just read a book for a few days. Most years I don't get sick at all, and if I do get a mild something or other after the sleep deprivation and crowds of an Amma event, it's usually not bad enough that I can't work or do normal things. Yebbut...that you've been sick with flu only once before doesn't tell you anything about whether you'll get it again--especially the current swine flu, which is new and different, so people don't have antibodies to it. (And if you're able to work and do normal things, that probably isn't the flu anyway, of any type.) The real point is, though, that even if you're not worried about catching the flu yourself, you should get the shot; because if you do catch it, you can spread it to other people who haven't had the shot (even before you actually start having symptoms), and who may be more vulnerable to getting *very* sick if they catch it. You wouldn't just be protecting yourself, in other words.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beltway: the Left is to blame for health care battle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.ride@ wrote: Yup, the Reps got so used to saying black and white and white is black for the last 8 years that they're getting away with it again. But then it's amazing what you can do with $million scripts and talking points produced by the insurance companies/lobbyists. You Betcha! I love the fact that out of one side of their mouths, they say the gummint can't do anything right; and out of the other, they claim the public option would be unfair competition for the private insurance companies because it would be so much better that people will switch to it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: '[The Prophet]- Returns-Every-Seven-Hundred Years!'
Dear babajii_99. I have worked for years along somewhat similar lines. Here are some comments: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, babajii_99 babajii...@... wrote: Here's my theory... Every 7 hundred years, humanity goes through a transition; Usually led by someone, who is remembered as the 'Agent of Change'... Many, many years later... And act as a catalyst, for an evolutionary next step, in human development... Here's my List: You could start with Abraham - [founder of Monotheism] Moses[inspiration of Old Testament] King David[inspiration of Psalms] I doubt it. I tend to accept Immanuel Velikovsky's chronology of 1495 BCE as the year of the Exodus. One thing you haven't done is provide at least the approximate dates you base your hypothesis on. You can't work on this kind of thing without using dates, you just can't. Yeshuam bin Joseph[inspiration of New Testament] Mo-Ham-meeed[inspiration of Koran] The Moslems are well aware of the many similarities of Mohammed the Prophet with Moses. The similarities of Abraham and Jesus Christ are not obvious due to the highly distorted biographical account of the New Testament. Leonardo[inspiration of Renaissance] But Leonardo was quite different from the rest of your line-up... Barack Obama[inspiration for people globally] Nah... I am afraid that you had been waiting for a Messiah to appear... Obama seems to belong to a shorter 105-110 years rhythm. The similarities between Lincoln (b. 1809) and Kennedy (1917) are well documented (1917-1809=108y). Also: Paul Morphy (1837) - Bobby Fisher (1943) = 106y De la Terre a la Lune (1865) - Apollo 11 landing (1968) = 103y (and even Walt Whitman (1819) - Allen Ginsberg (1926) = 107y) Back to Lincoln-Kennedy: Lincoln was the first to found a successful 3rd party. Kennedy was the first non-(Protestant+white+male) to be successful in being elected president. The most successful third party bid after Lincoln was by Teddy Roosevelt (in 1912) (one of the planks of his program was universal health care...). Obama (1961) however did succeed to be elected as the second non-(Protestant+white+male) president. He does not, however, seem to correspond to Teddy Roosevelt exactly. He rather corresponds to Booker T. Washington (1856-1961=105y), the first black to dine in the White House - as a guest of Teddy Roosevelt (as we were reminded by senator McCain in his acceptance speech). Both were of mixed race and raised by their mother. Booker T. Washington was quite a remarkable person - but hardly the Messiah. emf -- A academic discussion on the genetic make-up of the Jews http://ambassadors.net/archives/issue11/opinions2.htm
[FairfieldLife] Why not nirvana? Ginsberg in India!
In 1962 Allen Ginsberg made a historic journey to India. Poets (Gary Snyder), writers (Gita Mehta, Pankaj Mishra), musicians (Ed Sanders, Steven Taylor), and historians (Bill Morgan) gather at the Asia Society to explore the influence of India on the Beat Generation. Recorded 6/14/08. The short video on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MmnDqiVU2o
[FairfieldLife] Re: Willytex is on Medicare, so is Shemp.
You still don't seem to get it - we want to expand the Medicare to cover everyone AND bring down the cost of health care. Everybody is on the government plan, - there's no opt-out, it's an automatic payroll deduction. When you reach your full retirement age, you get Medicare. nelson wrote: Wouldn't this end up like SS where there are less people working as a proportion of those collecting? Wouldn'i this plan hinge on full employment which is rare? Apparently the health care reform proposed by Obama would be paid for by the senior citizens, and the health care for the senior citizens would be paid for by the young people. But obviously in order to cover everyone someone must pay for those who are not employed. And someone must pay for the care of the guest workers who are using our emergency rooms for their primary care. I would think that the people who don't work would be a problem. It would be nice if everyone could be taken care of - hope it could work out. There are probably millions of people out there that are opposed to this kind of ponzi scheme. Why would young people want to pay for medical insurance when they don't need it? And why would seniors want to pay for the medical care of people who are not employed? And who would want to pay for the medical care of illegal aliens?
[FairfieldLife] Why Sunday Talk Shows Should Be Banned
After reading the list of Talking Heads and realizing that ABC was still allowing the thoroughly dishonest George Will to destroy its reputation and poison America's political discourse, and even after the clownish Jon Stewart showed, as countless others had done, that the person Will, CNN, Fox and others relied on for expertise on health reform was a moronic, pathological liar, the person formerly known as scarecrow dragged his television into the bathroom, dumped it into the tub and after filling the tub, removed his hat, immersed himself and flipped the switch, . . . but nothing happened. More: http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7472
RE: [FairfieldLife] Rajas
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ruffedgrousepa Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 8:26 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rajas Does any one have the e-mail address of all or any of TM movement Rajas? Tom Stanley: stanl...@lisco.com John Konhaus: rajajohnkonh...@maharishi.net Rogers Badgett: rogersb...@aol.com Kingsley Brooks is on Facebook.
[FairfieldLife] Rethink Christianity
Perceptions Lisa Miller needs to rethink 23-08-2009 The Rig Veda, the most ancient Hindu scripture, says this: `Truth is One, but the sages speak of it by many names.' A Hindu believes there are many paths to God. Jesus is one way, the Qur'an is another, yoga practice is a third. None is better than any other; all are equal. This is no monk of the Ramakrishna Mission discoursing on the spiritual teachings of Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa who had experienced the truth of all three faiths -Hinduism, Islam and Christianity -- as valid for their respective faithfuls. It is Lisa Miller, Society editor in Newsweek, in her column (August 15, 2009), We Are All Hindus Now. By We she means Americans. Lisa Miller is highly concerned that Americans, while remaining true to their Christian faith otherwise, have begun to think and act like Hindu faithfuls. Here is an account of the interesting rendezvous between modern America and ancient Hinduism and its potential for global religious harmony . From melting pot to WASP The choice of We for Americans by Lisa Miller is intentional. It is calculated to reinstate an attempted debate in the US on the challenges to America's national identity that had failed to take off. Samuel P Huntington, who had prognosticated the clash of faiths and civilisations in the 1990s, later wrote a book in 2002 titled Who Are We? -- a question addressed to Americans. Huntington's answer to the question was that the core American identity -- `America's Creed' as he puts it -- was WASP, that is, White (in race) Anglo-Saxon (in ethnicity) and Protestant (in faith). All other identities, Huntington says, are subordinate. But, unlike his earlier work on clash of civilisations that had set off a furious debate within and outside the US, his theory on WASP as American identity did not. Now, some history. For over two centuries, the American identity was based on the metaphor of `the melting pot' where all identities eventually, inevitably melt to become the unique American porridge. The theory of `the melting pot' is traced back to 1782 when a French settler in New York, J Hector de Crevecoeur, envisioned the US as not merely a land of opportunity but as a society where individuals of all nations are melted into a new race of men whose labours and posterity will one day cause change in the world. But, the metaphor of the `melting pot' received a jolt after Islamist terror struck at the US from within. The US identity was alternately seen as a `bowl of salads', where all identities remain, but in the same bowl, that is, the US. But where is the dressing to cover it all?, asked the dissenters of the `Salad Bowl'. The result was Huntington's WASP as the core American identity; but that failed to click. Now in her article, Lisa Miller seemingly answers Huntington's titular question who are we derisively, yet provocatively. She says `we are `Hindu' -- that means, not WASP! Her conclusion let us all chant OM; the emphasis on `us' can even incite. The crisis of national identity in the US is evident in the article. Lisa Miller is no novice in matters of faith; she is a specialist. She writes a weekly column Belief Watch in Newsweek. Says her bio, `she reports, writes and edits stories on spirituality and belief; she wrote The Politics of Jesus, a cover story in Newsweek (March 10, 2006) on the impact of religion in the midterm elections in the US.' See why she fears that the US might get Hinduised. Hinduised America? After describing how Hindus accept all Gods and all forms of worship as valid, Lisa Miller says: The most traditional, conservative Christians have not been taught to think like the Hindus do. They learn in Sunday school that their religion is true, and others are false; Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the father except through me. Shortly, what Lisa Miller says about the two faiths is this: Christianity regards all non-Christian faiths as false, but Hinduism recognises all faiths as valid, as valid as the Hindu creed itself. But, she does not stop at this comparison. She laments that most Christians in the US are beginning to think and believe the way the Hindus do. She says: recent poll data show that conceptually, at least, we are slowly becoming more like Hindus and less like traditional Christians in the ways we think about God, our selves, each other, and eternity. Lisa Miller goes on to show how Americans are deviating from the fundamentals of Christianity. Americans, she says, are no longer buying the view that Christianity is the only true religion and all other religions are false. She cites a 2008 Pew Forum Survey and says that 65 per cent of us believe that many religions can lead to eternal life. This includes 37 per cent evangelicals -- the section, Lisa Miller points out, most likely to believe that salvation
[FairfieldLife] Re: Denied, to Invincible America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Folks saying good-bye. The last few days I learned that five long-time friends are leaving Fairfield now. From different circles. Long-time meditators. From different parts of the meditating community. Used to be folks figured how to come to FF to be in the domes for group meditation . The sacrifice and excitment was about being in the domes meditating in group. Seems lot of you writing here don't seem to live close to Fairfield. Some kind of interest in Fairfieldlife but not living here in FF. Not being here you may not see the complexion of the meditating community in FF. Fact is there are a lot more FF meditators in town outside of the domes than inside the domes. With people out and dome numbers chronically down, that gathering impetus is less. Has been for some while. Too many turned out who are here as meditators is a number that does eats at the dome community. An administrative problem evidently that is the status quo. I can see why you'd be annoyed at the TMO screwing up the running of the domes and people leaving town because of it, but you do have to see the TMOs side of it, they are a fundamentalist religious sect and like all religions they do practise a No other God but me approach to their gatherings. And you can see why, if people go about saying that such and such Guru is just as good as Marshy then people might start asking questions like Could I be doing better with my choice of meditation? and they don't want that! The trouble is the TMO insists that it's a secular group and the stuff about doing puja to Hindu Gods is really just enlivening aspects of the laws of nature. People are genuinely fooled by that and actually act as though they aren't religious despite the fact they do yoga and meditation for hours every day, follow a prescribed diet and even say grace before every meal! That's not even getting into the weird belief system (and it is weird, you may just be so used to it you've forgotten how the rest of the world is - easily done in a closed group). Finding out that their are some serious control freak issues at the heart of the TMO comes as a shock to most and drives most people away, I don't know many without some sort of horror story about bad management. If they were straight with you from the start would there be all this trouble? But help is at hand. I sense you are concerned with the effect on collective consciousness and that the people currently being refused dome entry are going to have some sort of negative impact on world affairs. Regardless of whether the Maharishi Effect even exists (I think not - but then I always argue according to evidence and not what I'm told to think) the greater amount of people doing prog outside the domes will make up for the fewer people inside the domes. If it's a field effect (as claimed) then there must be 4000 doing prog and adding their effect (if any) to the official number. I think Hagelin and the boys at MUM should take the numbers of ALL people doing the siddhis in FF and add that to their calculations. Of course, they'd then have to explain why it STILL isn't having any effect ;-) Trouble in FF, http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html Trouble in FF. Well, evidently meditator FF folk recently re-registering are being asked at registration if they have 'seen' other saints. Responding 'yes', these TM meditators are denied re-registration on the spot. Raja John Hagelin is aware of this? Its consequent in the meditating community just by word of mouth on the numbers of people who could be doing program in the domes? Does Hagelin know? Would seem like Hagelin is getting stabbed in the back by his dogmatic doctrinal types within TMmovement administration. Must be mighty frustrating in there for Hagelin while his dome numbers sag the meditating community gets distanced from the the movement again like this. Sad to watch tragedy like his. Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:12:39 -0500 Subject: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin From: Invincible America communication@ The July 2009 Invincible America Assembly was perfect in every way. - IA Course Participant Now it's August. Many visitors have left. Our Super Radiance numbers are in a lull until the MUM students return and the next group of Maharishi Vedic Pandits arrive. We urgently need all local Sidhas to attend morning and evening programs. Thank you for being here in wonderful Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. JAI GURU DEV
[FairfieldLife] Re: Willytex is on Medicare, so is Shemp.
raunchydog wrote: Well we sure don't have any problem taking care of the banksters when they need a bailout. But when it comes to taking care of the health of our fellow citizens, everyone is suddenly stingy... The basic problem is the high cost of medical care. If we could bring that down, then everyone could afford health care insurance. But hardly anyone is going to want to pay for someones health care. It's that simple. And why should they? Give me one reason why I would want to pay for your medical care. The senior bloc is going to resist this, because they don't want to have the health care plan funded on their backs. Young people don't want to pay for health insurance they don't need. And young people don't want to pay for the health care of older people. Nobody wants to pay for the health care of illegal aliens. Maybe Obama's plan for a government-run health care system is just the wrong prescription for the present situation. Maybe he should concentrate on improving the economy and winning the war. Obama's plan will raise costs for everyone, for families, for businesses, and for health care providers; Obama's plan will increase the deficit. Obama's plan will not allow patients to keep the doctor or insurance plan of their choice. Under the Obamas' plan, senior citizens will have to pay a higher price and they will have their treatment options reduced or rationed by a panel. I, and many others, suspect that Obama wants to raid Medicare by cutting $500 billion to fund his experiment. That's going to go over like a lead ballon with seniors!
[FairfieldLife] Alegre says goodbye
Alegre's Corner has been a good friend for Hillary supporters. After DKos turned sexist-ugly on Hillary any female writer who dared write anything positive about her, Alegre left DKos, started her own blog and had a loyal following of other writers and commenters for the past two years. She provided a safe place, free of sexism, where folks could discusses political issues and pro-women issues of the day without having to fight off Obot trolls. She posted her last blog last night. I will miss her. http://snipurl.com/qtu4q
[FairfieldLife] The God Market
http://www.hindu.com/mag/2009/08/23/stories/2009082350140400.htm EXCERPTS Mirror, Mirror on the Wall… Is India really an emerging knowledge superpower? Exclusive excerpts from Meera Nanda’s book The God Market, which was released recently… Photo: R. Eswarraj Routine information tinkering? A BPO centre. We, the Indians, as Guru of all nations. Yes, I believe in that… A.B. Vajpayee Yad ihasti tad anyatra, yan nehasti na tat kavcit Whatever is here might be elsewhere, but what is not here could hardly ever be found. Mahabharata, 1.56.33 Of all the people in the world, guess who are the most bewitched by their image in the looking glass? We are. Indians rank number one in the world in thinking that we are number one in the world. Or rather, that our culture is. This ranking comes from the 2007 Global Attitudes Survey carried out by the well-known American think tank, Pew Research Center. The survey asked people in 47 countries if they agreed or disagreed with this question: “Our people are not perfect, but our culture is superior to others.” Indians topped the list. A whopping 93 per cent agreed that our culture was superior to others, with 64 per cent agreeing without any reservations. The survey involved 2043 respondents, all of them from urban areas which means a higher proportion of literates, English speakers, and relatively well-to-do. Within the limitations that apply to all public opinion surveys, the figures reported by Pew give us a rough idea of how relatively privileged Indians see themselves vis-À-vis the world… …This unquestioning belief in the superiority of “our culture” is why so many otherwise sensible people seem to buy into the glib talk of India as an emerging superpower. If one were to believe the political, business, and religious leaders, India is barely a couple of decades away from becoming the Number One in everything from IT, science (or “knowledge” more broadly), technology, higher education, medicine, economy, culture, and of course spirituality. By 2050 or so, India will finally achieve the status of jagat guru in the realms of both the spiritual and the material… …This hype about the Hindu mind is preventing a more realistic assessment of the state of Indian science and technology including the much-admired IT sector. While the general impression is that India is making great strides towards becoming a “knowledge economy”, facts on the ground tell a more sobering story. Indian science and technology is not faring very well when compared to our Asian neighbours or even when compared to its own earlier record. Consider the fact that none of India’s top institutes of science or technology has ever made into the top 100 of the prestigious Shanghai ranking of the top 500 universities of the world. Only three Indian institutions have ever made it into the list at all, but at a very low rank: the Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore scored in the 251-300 range, and IIT-Delhi and IIT-Kharagpur figured in the lowest bracket (451-500). In contrast, five of Japan’s universities figured in the top 100 universities and two Chinese universities ranked higher than India’s. The irony is that the quantity and quality of scientific research has been steadily declining even as the number of universities and deemed universities has been growing, and even as the budgets for research and development have been getting bigger. The number of research papers from India in peer-reviewed journals fell from 14,987 to 12,227 between 1980 and 2000, while China’s grew from merely 924 to 22,061. When measured for quality (or impact) of Indian research, the data is equally dismal: only 0.33 per cent of research papers published from India make it in the top one per cent of the most cited papers in the world, while the corresponding figure from China is about twice as high. Even the much-hyped IT sector has created stupendous amount of wealth not because of superior innovations, but because it is cheap. It is true that the IT industry has come a long way from its techno-coolie days, but still the engine driving it remains relatively routine information tinkering at a relatively low cost. All told, invoking the Hindu Mind does not take us very far in understanding the modern world that we are creating through the blood, tears, and sweat of all Indians… Pride without prejudice …Pride in the achievements of your own tribe is a legitimate emotion. But when pride is fuelled by — and contributes to — prejudice against others, it becomes jingoism. …the self-congratulatory conflation of all of India’s achievements into Hinduism is contributing to the emergence of a jingoistic Hindu majoritarian mindset. There are two big dangers of this mindset. The first is an exaggerated sense of our achievements as a people. This may be a good ego booster in the short run, but it can lead us into a self-defeating complacency. The second danger is
[FairfieldLife] Keep up the pressure for the public option
Jane Hamsher's activism for the public option is paying off. Iowa Blue Dog, Rep. Leonard Boswell IA-3 is signaling his support for a public option, but we still have to keep the pressure on. Call his office and thank him for his support: Iowa Toll Free: 1-888-432-1984 DC (202) 225-3806 http://snipurl.com/qtwyo Iowa Rep. Dave Loebsack IA-2 supports a public option in principle but IMO he could cave just to get a bill passed. Keep up the pressure: Cedar Rapids (319) 364-2288 Iowa City (319) 351-0789 DC (202) 225-6576 http://snipurl.com/qtxoq Tennessee Blue Dog Rep. Jim Cooper TN-5, opposes the public option. His district supports the public option. It looks like his district is fed up with him enough to vote him out of office. http://snipurl.com/qtvv4
[FairfieldLife] Rage - Ex
Join the Anti-Health Care Reform mob and leave the burdens of rationality behind ! Mark Fiore animation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwAgORszB1weur
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beltway: the Left is to blame for health care battle
authfriend wrote: I love the fact that out of one side of their mouths, they say the gummint can't do anything right; and out of the other, they claim the public option would be unfair competition for the private insurance companies because it would be so much better that people will switch to it. Lot's of people wouldn't want to switch their doctors or their health care plan and pay more. They like their current plan and they like their current doctors. Lot's of people don't like the idea of paying for other people's health care. Lot's of seniors don't like the idea of their current Medicare plan being cut, forcing them to pay more. Lot's of people don't like the idea of an automatic payroll deduction for health care insurance they don't want or don't need. Young people are especially resistent to paying for the health care of older people. Nobody wants to pay for the health care of guest workers. Nobody likes to have to stand in line at the emergency room for 24 hours waiting to see a doctor becuase it's to crowded with illegal aliens. But everybody wants the high cost of medical care brought down. Obama should find ways to reduce the cost of medical care, like making discount medications available from Canada or Mexico, but Obama seems to have made a secret deal with PhARMA to keep cost high.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
authfriend wrote: Heh. Bhairitu's as crazy as the town hall shouters, and just as resistant to reason. You could have responded to my original post with something like I intend to get the flu shot and here's why But instead you attacked me. Why do you do that?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rage - Ex
John wrote: Join the Anti-Health Care Reform mob... You're not doing any good convincing some of us about your health care plan with your incessant name calling. You need to explain the facts, not just call us a 'mob', John. In fact, it's beginning to look like you're the mob, not us. What do you think you're accomplishing? How is this kind of smearing going to improve the health care you receive down in Brazil? Americans should look out for each other, but there are smart ways to do that and not so smart ways. President Obama's health care vision is confusing. It also may bankrupt the nation. That does not sound smart to me. The American people do not want to invest trillions of dollars in a big government program that is confusing. That would be insane. If President Obama could articulate exactly how the trillion-dollar investment would help all Americans, I believe he might succeed in his quest to make health care more accessible to all... Read the full story: 'President Obama Goes Into Preacher Mode on Health Care' By Bill O'Reilly Talking Points, Fox News, August 21, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/lpohgc
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: snip I've never had a flu shot and I think I only got the flu once bad enough to have to lay low and just read a book for a few days. Most years I don't get sick at all, and if I do get a mild something or other after the sleep deprivation and crowds of an Amma event, it's usually not bad enough that I can't work or do normal things. Yebbut...that you've been sick with flu only once before doesn't tell you anything about whether you'll get it again--especially the current swine flu, which is new and different, so people don't have antibodies to it. (And if you're able to work and do normal things, that probably isn't the flu anyway, of any type.) The real point is, though, that even if you're not worried about catching the flu yourself, you should get the shot; because if you do catch it, you can spread it to other people who haven't had the shot (even before you actually start having symptoms), and who may be more vulnerable to getting *very* sick if they catch it. You wouldn't just be protecting yourself, in other words. Yebbut? A friend who is a psychology professor and former TM'er himself says that TM'ers for some reason respond with yes, but. He therefore calls them yesbutts. ;-) Folks are beginning to wonder if Judy has Baxter stock. The flu spread argument is a straw dog. She's trying to make you feel guilty. Would be really odd if there was a flu epidemic but those who survived were the ones who didn't get the shot. Reminds me of a science fiction story where the rulers on this distant planet decided it was overpopulated and wanted to reduce the population so they said there was a big epidemic coming and told their populace to get vaccinated. But it was actually the vaccine that killed off the populace. I've read one account of someone who had this flu and said it was terrible but survived it. Other death cases first termed swine flu turned out to be regular flu.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: authfriend wrote: Heh. Bhairitu's as crazy as the town hall shouters, and just as resistant to reason. You could have responded to my original post with something like I intend to get the flu shot and here's why That's exactly what I did. But instead you attacked me. Why do you do that? I didn't attack you (until just now, after *you* attacked *me*).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
Bhairitu's as crazy as the town hall shouters, and just as resistant to reason. Bhairitu wrote: You could have responded to my original post with something like I intend to get the flu shot and here's why But instead you attacked me. Why do you do that? Because she like to attack? To Judy, everyone who disagrees with her is part of a shouting mob, or they are crazy, or outright liars. She knows that there's no cure for the 'flu', never has been. She knows we can't afford medical care reform in the middle of a recession. She know that the Dems are losing the war. So, what else can she do but attack you for wanting the right of refusal. Apparently Judy wants to amend the U.S. Constitution without even voting on it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rage - Ex
WillyTex, I agree with you, elitist smears from the left do not help further the health care debate, nor does disinformation from the right. As I've been saying all along this is just a corporately manufactured let's you and him fight so we stop paying to the real issues at hand and meet on common ground. Obama should be leading such a debate and he's not doing it. As you know Jane Hamsher is my hero advocating for a public option. I know you don't agree with me on this but it's no reason we can't have a respectful discussion about it. I don't have time this morning to discuss your concerns in post #228206, but I'll give it a shot this evening. I hope that John will rise also rise to the challenge and actually debate you on the issues instead of propagating juvenile smears. I'd really like to know if he is in favor of a public option or just wants to pass any old bill to save Obama's ass. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex no_re...@... wrote: John wrote: Join the Anti-Health Care Reform mob... You're not doing any good convincing some of us about your health care plan with your incessant name calling. You need to explain the facts, not just call us a 'mob', John. In fact, it's beginning to look like you're the mob, not us. What do you think you're accomplishing? How is this kind of smearing going to improve the health care you receive down in Brazil? Americans should look out for each other, but there are smart ways to do that and not so smart ways. President Obama's health care vision is confusing. It also may bankrupt the nation. That does not sound smart to me. The American people do not want to invest trillions of dollars in a big government program that is confusing. That would be insane. If President Obama could articulate exactly how the trillion-dollar investment would help all Americans, I believe he might succeed in his quest to make health care more accessible to all... Read the full story: 'President Obama Goes Into Preacher Mode on Health Care' By Bill O'Reilly Talking Points, Fox News, August 21, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/lpohgc
[FairfieldLife] Re: Denied, to Invincible America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Folks saying good-bye. The last few days I learned that five long-time friends are leaving Fairfield now. From different circles. Long-time meditators. From different parts of the meditating community. Used to be folks figured how to come to FF to be in the domes for group meditation . The sacrifice and excitment was about being in the domes meditating in group. Seems lot of you writing here don't seem to live close to Fairfield. Some kind of interest in Fairfieldlife but not living here in FF. Not being here you may not see the complexion of the meditating community in FF. Fact is there are a lot more FF meditators in town outside of the domes than inside the domes. With people out and dome numbers chronically down, that gathering impetus is less. Has been for some while. Too many turned out who are here as meditators is a number that does eats at the dome community. An administrative problem evidently that is the status quo. They have been seing other saints, no ? Then it is not an administrative problem but a problem of lack of focus for the involved.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: snip I've never had a flu shot and I think I only got the flu once bad enough to have to lay low and just read a book for a few days. Most years I don't get sick at all, and if I do get a mild something or other after the sleep deprivation and crowds of an Amma event, it's usually not bad enough that I can't work or do normal things. Yebbut...that you've been sick with flu only once before doesn't tell you anything about whether you'll get it again--especially the current swine flu, which is new and different, so people don't have antibodies to it. (And if you're able to work and do normal things, that probably isn't the flu anyway, of any type.) The real point is, though, that even if you're not worried about catching the flu yourself, you should get the shot; because if you do catch it, you can spread it to other people who haven't had the shot (even before you actually start having symptoms), and who may be more vulnerable to getting *very* sick if they catch it. You wouldn't just be protecting yourself, in other words. Yebbut? A friend who is a psychology professor and former TM'er himself says that TM'ers for some reason respond with yes, but. He therefore calls them yesbutts. ;-) Um, Yes, but... is a common phrase used in any discussion. Folks are beginning to wonder if Judy has Baxter stock. Oh, yeah, right. The flu spread argument is a straw dog. Google herd immunity. It's a well-established epidemiological principle. She's trying to make you feel guilty. Translation: Bhairitu feels guilty. Many people don't know about the herd immunity principle and don't realize that their personal decision about whether to get a flu shot doesn't affect just them. There's no reason to feel guilty about not knowing about herd immunity. But once you *do* know about it, you have a different perspective on whether to get a shot--again, because it isn't something that affects only you. Would be really odd if there was a flu epidemic but those who survived were the ones who didn't get the shot. Yes, that *would* be really odd. Reminds me of a science fiction story Me too. Do you usually make decisions about your health based on science fiction stories? where the rulers on this distant planet decided it was overpopulated and wanted to reduce the population so they said there was a big epidemic coming and told their populace to get vaccinated. But it was actually the vaccine that killed off the populace. I've read one account of someone who had this flu and said it was terrible but survived it. Other death cases first termed swine flu turned out to be regular flu. And this is supposed to prove what, exactly? Unless the swine flu mutates and becomes significantly more virulent (i.e., more lethal), most people don't have to worry about surviving it. But some do, and they're the ones you want to protect by getting a flu shot yourself so as to increase herd immunity.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
I don't even know if I'd be eligible for a flu shot. There's a shortage, and I don't think I'm in a high risk category. 59 yrs. old. Not pregnant.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: authfriend wrote: Heh. Bhairitu's as crazy as the town hall shouters, and just as resistant to reason. You could have responded to my original post with something like I intend to get the flu shot and here's why That's exactly what I did. But instead you attacked me. Why do you do that? I didn't attack you (until just now, after *you* attacked *me*). It may well be argued that you attacked me in your first reply with this: So it may seem all wonderfully macho to refuse to get vaccinated, but if you don't, you're contributing to the likelihood of other people getting sick. If you had replaced you with one readers wouldn't see it that way. The you makes it look like it's addressing me. And that is the only sentence in the reply that has you.
[FairfieldLife] All the Presidents Zombies - The failure of Reaganism
All the President's Zombies http://www.nytimes.com/adx/bin/adx_click.html?type=gotoopznpage=www.n\ ytimes.com/yr/mo/day/opinionpos=Frame4Asn2=f8475720/9aad5d74sn1=c5374\ 327/880620b5camp=foxsearch2009_emailtools_1011076c_nyt5ad=Adam_120x60_\ c_nowplayinggoto=http://www.foxsearchlight.com/adam By PAUL KRUGMAN http://topics.nytimes.com/top/opinion/editorialsandoped/oped/columnists\ /paulkrugman/index.html?inline=nyt-per Published: August 23, 2009 The debate over the public option in health care has been dismaying in many ways. Perhaps the most depressing aspect for progressives, however, has been the extent to which opponents of greater choice in health care have gained traction in Congress, if not with the broader public simply by repeating, over and over again, that the public option would be, horrors, a government program. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/opinion/24krugman.html#secondParagrap\ h [190] Fred R. Conrad/The New York Times Paul Krugman Washington, it seems, is still ruled by Reaganism by an ideology that says government intervention is always bad, and leaving the private sector to its own devices is always good. Call me naïve, but I actually hoped that the failure of Reaganism in practice would kill it. It turns out, however, to be a zombie doctrine: even though it should be dead, it keeps on coming. Let's talk for a moment about why the age of Reagan should be over. First of all, even before the current crisis Reaganomics had failed to deliver what it promised. Remember how lower taxes on high incomes and deregulation that unleashed the magic of the marketplace were supposed to lead to dramatically better outcomes for everyone? Well, it didn't happen. To be sure, the wealthy benefited enormously: the real incomes of the top .01 percent of Americans rose sevenfold between 1980 and 2007. But the real income of the median family rose only 22 percent, less than a third its growth over the previous 27 years. Moreover, most of whatever gains ordinary Americans achieved came during the Clinton years. President George W. Bush, who had the distinction of being the first Reaganite president to also have a fully Republican Congress, also had the distinction of presiding over the first administration since Herbert Hoover in which the typical family failed to see any significant income gains. And then there's the small matter of the worst recession since the 1930s. There's a lot to be said about the financial disaster of the last two years, but the short version is simple: politicians in the thrall of Reaganite ideology dismantled the New Deal regulations that had prevented banking crises for half a century, believing that financial markets could take care of themselves. The effect was to make the financial system vulnerable to a 1930s-style crisis and the crisis came. We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, said Franklin Delano Roosevelt in 1937. We know now that it is bad economics. And last year we learned that lesson all over again. Or did we? The astonishing thing about the current political scene is the extent to which nothing has changed. The debate over the public option has, as I said, been depressing in its inanity. Opponents of the option not just Republicans, but Democrats like Senator Kent Conrad and Senator Ben Nelson have offered no coherent arguments against it. Mr. Nelson has warned ominously that if the option were available, Americans would choose it over private insurance which he treats as a self-evidently bad thing, rather than as what should happen if the government plan was, in fact, better than what private insurers offer. But it's much the same on other fronts. Efforts to strengthen bank regulation appear to be losing steam, as opponents of reform declare that more regulation would lead to less financial innovation this just months after the wonders of innovation brought our financial system to the edge of collapse, a collapse that was averted only with huge infusions of taxpayer funds. So why won't these zombie ideas die? Part of the answer is that there's a lot of money behind them. It is difficult to get a man to understand something, said Upton Sinclair, when his salary or, I would add, his campaign contributions depend upon his not understanding it. In particular, vast amounts of insurance industry money have been flowing to obstructionist Democrats like Mr. Nelson and Senator Max Baucus, whose Gang of Six negotiations have been a crucial roadblock to legislation. But some of the blame also must rest with President Obama, who famously praised Reagan during the Democratic primary, and hasn't used the bully pulpit to confront government-is-bad fundamentalism. That's ironic, in a way, since a large part of what made Reagan so effective, for better or for worse, was the fact that he sought to change America's thinking as well as its tax code. How will this all work out? I don't know. But
[FairfieldLife] WillyTex is a RAGING SOCIALIST !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex no_re...@... wrote: OffWorld: Willtex - I assume from your generally selfish attitude, you have no kids, disabled kids, or sick family members, or elderly parents to look after? Well, I fail to see the connection between my group policy and my elderly parents. They have private insurance and Medicare and Medicaid - I see, so you are happy they have government run medicare and medicaid, paid for by the taxpayers, so that you do not have to look after them and pay for them. YOU RAGING SOCIALIST ! they're not on my group policy. My kids are all grown up. I told my kids to get a job that has a group policy, and to save their money. I told them to not to rely on the government for their welfare. So, when one of them becomes paralyzed (god forbid), and the insurance companies drop them, you will wish they had government-run healthcare, paid for by the taxpayers, so that you do not have to look after them and make yourself bankrupt. YOU RAVING SOCIALIST ! As for the selfish attitude, I think that anyone who wants to saddle the young people with trillions of dollars of debt are the one's with the selfish attitude. According to what I've read, each family in the U.S. owes the government over $17,000 dollars for the bail-out in order to get the country out of debt. They owe that money because they have to pay 5,000 to 10,000 a year for health care you moron ! I wonder how much that figure is in Britain In Britain the average amount owed is about 6,000 dollare per person, but the quality of life is much better on average, and average salaries are higher. - apparently the whole U.K. is on the verge of bankruptcy. You Brits can't even win a single battle Brits won all the wars, Yanks lost them all, except for WWII, which the Brits saved them from being blown out of the water with Britich invention of radar, spitfire aircraft that killed off German airforce, and stealing German 'Enigma machine' to make U-boats inneffective. Then the Brits used your grunts as cannon fodder. You also lost the war against the British when the British defeated the Papist-fascist armies of the French and the Spanish -- a war in which your stupid war of independence was an insignificant and strategically unimportant battle. Americans are so brain-washed about their history. I have completely beaten you with facts and reason in almost every argument you make on healthcaer and others. Only a retard cannot see logic. I perdict that one day your private health insurance will let you down when it really counts and you will depend entirely on socialist medicine and you will cry and complain about how you were screwed by the private insurance company. This is another OffWorld presiction, 99% of which have come true. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Willytex is on Medicare, so is Shemp.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex no_re...@... wrote: raunchydog wrote: Well we sure don't have any problem taking care of the banksters when they need a bailout. But when it comes to taking care of the health of our fellow citizens, everyone is suddenly stingy... The basic problem is the high cost of medical care. If we could bring that down, then everyone could afford health care insurance That is the main point of the Democrats plan. That is the inspiration for it, and that is the goal of it. WillTex, you are entirely brain washed by the moronic bloggers you read. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rage - Ex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: WillyTex, I agree with you, elitist smears from the left do not help further the health care debate, nor does disinformation from the right. As I've been saying all along this is just a corporately manufactured let's you and him fight so we stop paying to the real issues at hand and meet on common ground. Obama should be leading such a debate and he's not doing it. As you know Jane Hamsher is my hero advocating for a public option. I know you don't agree with me on this but it's no reason we can't have a respectful discussion about it. I don't have time this morning to discuss your concerns in post #228206, but I'll give it a shot this evening. I hope that John will rise also rise to the challenge and actually debate you on the issues instead of propagating juvenile smears. I'd really like to know if he is in favor of a public option or just wants to pass any old bill to save Obama's ass. Good Lord, Ms Dog now includes an unintentional comedy act with WillyTex along with her OWN irrational anti-Obama crusade ...what a laughable sitcom scene! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex no_reply@ wrote: John wrote: Join the Anti-Health Care Reform mob... You're not doing any good convincing some of us about your health care plan with your incessant name calling. You need to explain the facts, not just call us a 'mob', John. In fact, it's beginning to look like you're the mob, not us. What do you think you're accomplishing? How is this kind of smearing going to improve the health care you receive down in Brazil? Americans should look out for each other, but there are smart ways to do that and not so smart ways. President Obama's health care vision is confusing. It also may bankrupt the nation. That does not sound smart to me. The American people do not want to invest trillions of dollars in a big government program that is confusing. That would be insane. If President Obama could articulate exactly how the trillion-dollar investment would help all Americans, I believe he might succeed in his quest to make health care more accessible to all... Read the full story: 'President Obama Goes Into Preacher Mode on Health Care' By Bill O'Reilly Talking Points, Fox News, August 21, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/lpohgc
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is Tom Barlow ------------- was////Willytex is on Medicare
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex no_reply@ wrote: off_world_beings wrote: Willytex is on Medicare... Medicare is for sick people. How ironinc. I'll tell you what's ironic, Off. You're probably laid-off, but I'm still working, and on a group medical insurance plan. I work for myself in Vermont. I cannot be fired. I cannot loose work in a recession. I pay for my own health insurance through Blue-Cross/Blue-Shield. I have more self-sufficiency in money-making than you have ever had Willytex. You are a slave from my point of view. I will never ever work for the Man. I am an independent, and I can never be laid off, nor can I stop making money. Its almost impossible. I am also a landlord on the side. I have the varied skills to work almost anywhere I choose in America, and I have a passport to live in 15 countries in Europe if I please. I am 47 years old. I swim 80 lengths of butterfly most days - that is when I am not literally running up mountains, or cross-country skiing at the lodge. In winter, I drive to the lodge, ski for about 3 hours, then work in a local cafe for about 4-5 hours, then go ski or swim for about 1-2 hours, then go home or go out with friends. But that's just me. How 'bout you Willytex - sounds like you are an endentured slave compared to me. Enjoy your commute and slaveman day on Monday - Lol. How was your morning commute this morning WillyTex, as you rushed through the mass of automoton idiots, on your way to your slave post at the slave-drivers company you are endentured to? OffWorld OffWorld
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rajas
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Rick Archerr...@searchsummit.com wrote: Does any one have the e-mail address of all or any of TM movement Rajas? Tom Stanley: stanl...@lisco.com John Konhaus: rajajohnkonh...@maharishi.net Rogers Badgett: rogersb...@aol.com Kingsley Brooks is on Facebook. Do you have the address of the Nazi? I want to send him fan mail.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: authfriend wrote: Heh. Bhairitu's as crazy as the town hall shouters, and just as resistant to reason. You could have responded to my original post with something like I intend to get the flu shot and here's why That's exactly what I did. But instead you attacked me. Why do you do that? I didn't attack you (until just now, after *you* attacked *me*). It may well be argued that you attacked me in your first reply with this: So it may seem all wonderfully macho to refuse to get vaccinated, but if you don't, you're contributing to the likelihood of other people getting sick. That's an *attack*?? It applies to women just as much as to men. It refers to a feeling of strength and invulnerability in this context. If you had replaced you with one readers wouldn't see it that way. The you makes it look like it's addressing me. And that is the only sentence in the reply that has you. Or one. That's the only sentence that called for either. Come on, Bhairitu. How could I possibly have been suggesting that it *only* applied to you? You yourself said to start with that 50 percent of the population would refuse to take the shot. Even if you thought you had reason to take the phrase as a little jab, your insult in response was way, *way* out of proportion (and not the slightest bit ambiguous). Not to mention that you used it as an excuse to ignore the substantive points I made.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rage - Ex
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:09 AM, do.rflexdo.rf...@yahoo.com wrote: Join the Anti-Health Care Reform mob and leave the burdens of rationality behind ! Mark Fiore animation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwAgORszB1weur My wife lied to me. It's not hormones. Women take a monthly overdose of Rage-Ex.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The God Market
From the article linked to: Indians rank number one in the world in thinking that we are number one in the world. Or rather, that our culture is. This ranking comes from the 2007 Global Attitudes Survey carried out by the well-known American think tank, Pew Research Center. The survey asked people in 47 countries if they agreed or disagreed with this question: Our people are not perfect, but our culture is superior to others. Indians topped the list. A whopping 93 per cent agreed that our culture was superior to others, with 64 per cent agreeing without any reservations. The survey involved 2043 respondents, all of them from urban areas which means a higher proportion of literates, English speakers, and relatively well-to-do. Within the limitations that apply to all public opinion surveys, the figures reported by Pew give us a rough idea of how relatively privileged Indians see themselves vis-À-vis the world What I find interesting about this is that the Hindu religion/culture is not a prostelytizing religion the way Christianity or Islam is. Yet left on its own accord the people feel very happy about it. You would expect a so-called Christian country or Islamic country to top the list believing their culture/religion was tops. And yet here is India with a religion that pretty much embraces all kinds of beliefs ranking #1. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_sp...@... wrote:  http://www.hindu.com/mag/2009/08/23/stories/2009082350140400.htm EXCERPTS Mirror, Mirror on the Wall⦠Is India really an emerging knowledge superpower? Exclusive excerpts from Meera Nandaâs book The God Market, which was released recently⦠Photo: R. Eswarraj Routine information tinkering? A BPO centre. We, the Indians, as Guru of all nations. Yes, I believe in that⦠A.B. Vajpayee Yad ihasti tad anyatra, yan nehasti na tat kavcit Whatever is here might be elsewhere, but what is not here could hardly ever be found. Mahabharata, 1.56.33 Of all the people in the world, guess who are the most bewitched by their image in the looking glass? We are. Indians rank number one in the world in thinking that we are number one in the world. Or rather, that our culture is. This ranking comes from the 2007 Global Attitudes Survey carried out by the well-known American think tank, Pew Research Center. The survey asked people in 47 countries if they agreed or disagreed with this question: âOur people are not perfect, but our culture is superior to others.â Indians topped the list. A whopping 93 per cent agreed that our culture was superior to others, with 64 per cent agreeing without any reservations. The survey involved 2043 respondents, all of them from urban areas which means a higher proportion of literates, English speakers, and relatively well-to-do. Within the limitations that apply to all public opinion surveys, the figures reported by Pew give us a rough idea of how relatively privileged Indians see themselves vis-Ã-vis the world⦠â¦This unquestioning belief in the superiority of âour cultureâ is why so many otherwise sensible people seem to buy into the glib talk of India as an emerging superpower. If one were to believe the political, business, and religious leaders, India is barely a couple of decades away from becoming the Number One in everything from IT, science (or âknowledgeâ more broadly), technology, higher education, medicine, economy, culture, and of course spirituality. By 2050 or so, India will finally achieve the status of jagat guru in the realms of both the spiritual and the material⦠â¦This hype about the Hindu mind is preventing a more realistic assessment of the state of Indian science and technology including the much-admired IT sector. While the general impression is that India is making great strides towards becoming a âknowledge economyâ, facts on the ground tell a more sobering story. Indian science and technology is not faring very well when compared to our Asian neighbours or even when compared to its own earlier record. Consider the fact that none of Indiaâs top institutes of science or technology has ever made into the top 100 of the prestigious Shanghai ranking of the top 500 universities of the world. Only three Indian institutions have ever made it into the list at all, but at a very low rank: the Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore scored in the 251-300 range, and IIT-Delhi and IIT-Kharagpur figured in the lowest bracket (451-500). In contrast, five of Japanâs universities figured in the top 100 universities and two Chinese universities ranked higher than Indiaâs. The irony is that the quantity and quality of scientific research has been steadily declining even as the number of universities and deemed universities has been growing, and even as the budgets for research and development have been
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rajas
most of them communicate through their secretaries... so rajas wont answer... you will get answer like life is bliss and if you persist probably you are stressed person and need checking... or you don't live in proper vastu with eastern entrance... so before writing have a house with proper entrance and get checking...
[FairfieldLife] Avoid The Problem Before It Comes(TM)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Rick Archerr...@... wrote: Does any one have the e-mail address of all or any of TM movement Rajas? Tom Stanley: stanl...@... John Konhaus: rajajohnkonh...@... Rogers Badgett: rogersb...@... Kingsley Brooks is on Facebook. Do you have the address of the Nazi? I want to send him fan mail. Ah...but if it *isn't* fan mail, and in fact could go over the line into (dare I say it?) negativity? Will the email arrive in the Raja's InBox and thus pollute his cosmically warm and fuzzy aura? Not if the Raja has purchased our new Avoid The Problem Before It Comes(TM) software. We have crafted this new antinegativityware product with the TM Raja in mind. Merely download (for a small fee...currently pegged to the price of learning TM) our software, install it, and Raja Emmanuel's InBox will never again display an email that contains any of the following words or phrases: * nutjob * Burger King crown * Amma, etc. (Our filter list is constantly updated to filter out mentions of any spiritual teacher other than Maharishi.) * spiritual nazi * blubberous oaf * embarrassing * ignorant and proud of it * so German Germans hate you... ...and many, many others. And the best part is that the filter list can be easily updated by the Raja user, to include new words and phrases you find insulting. Try Avoid The Problem Before It Comes today. Just down- load our software today and never have to worry about entertaining negativity ever again. www.nutjobsoftware.com Selling software to nutjobs since 1981!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rajas
On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:25 AM, ruffedgrousepa wrote: Does any one have the e-mail address of all or any of TM movement Rajas? Here's a phone # I believe might work: 1-800-NUT-JOBS Sal
[FairfieldLife] Got a vibe on this movie
It won't be out until January, but rewatching the criminally-underrated From Hell tonight, I looked up the director and found his new movie. This is how it's described in the IMDB: A post-apocalyptic tale, in which a lone man fights his way across America in order to protect a sacred book that holds the secrets to saving humankind. It stars Denzel Washington and Gary Oldman. This is its trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSfFkVrmEkA I am so there on opening night.
[FairfieldLife] Re: WillyTex is a RAGING SOCIALIST !
Well, I fail to see the connection between my group policy and my elderly parents. They have private insurance and Medicare and Medicaid... Off: I see, so you are happy they have government run medicare and medicaid, paid for by the taxpayers, so that you do not have to look after them and pay for them. My parents both have private insurance and like everyone else, Medicare and Medicaid. But the Medicare and Medicaid are supplements to the private insurance. I'm am glad my parents had good jobs and a good group policy: the USAF. they're not on my group policy. My kids are all grown up. I told my kids to get a job that has a group policy, and to save their money. I told them to not to rely on the government for their welfare. So, when one of them becomes paralyzed (god forbid), and the insurance companies drop them, you will wish they had government-run healthcare, paid for by the taxpayers, so that you do not have to look after them and make yourself bankrupt. That's my point: young people don't want to pay for health insurance they don't need or want. They don't want to pay for a government plan either, they don't want to pay higher taxes. Young people don't want to pay for the health care of the older people. Young people don't want to pay for the emergency room visits of illegal aliens. They just don't want to pay. You are asking the young people to commit to trillions of dollars of payments in the future. A lot of young people hate paying for things they don't need and they hate being told that they MUST do something. Young people are mostly in good health - they don't need any health care and they don't want to pay for yours. A lot of young people get very angry when you make them do things and pay for things they don't want or need.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Willytex is on Medicare, so is Shemp.
The basic problem is the high cost of medical care. If we could bring that down, then everyone could afford health care insurance... Off: That is the main point of the Democrats plan. That is the inspiration for it, and that is the goal of it. The only way for costs to come down is for Congress and our congressional leaders to pass regulations that bring costs down, like the high cost of prescription medications. But there's nothing in any of the current bills before congress that do that. In fact, Obama made a secret deal to keep the costs of these medications artificially high. A recap: The single-payer plan puts the government in charge of your health care, there are no choices - it's a mandatory system where everyone is subject to an automatic payroll deduction. There are no insurance companies - there's only one single payer - the government. It would cost the government trillions of dollars to implement and it would mean the elimination of Medicare and Medicaide. Most seniors will be opposed to this plan - without them, no politician is going to get any bills passed. The public option is an insurance plan that will drive some insurance companies out of business and you'll be forced by your employer to change plans and change doctors. The public option will cost trillions of dollars to implement. Most young people who don't need any health insurance will be opposed to this plan. Without them no politician is going to get any bills passed. Neither of these plans will bring down the high cost of health care. There's only one good way to help all Americans get health care insurance: bring the cost of the medical care down. That way, everyone could afford to pay for their own health insurance. There would be many choices to the consumer. Everyone is in favor of lower health care costs. Any politician who comes up with a viable plan to reduce costs of medical care will get a bill passed. Everyone is in favor of lowering costs and saving money.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Avoid The Problem Before It Comes(TM)
TurquoiseB wrote: We have crafted this new antinegativityware product with the TM Raja in mind... If it's software you wrote, I'd pass. We've already been thought this before, with you code cult guys writing software and trying to help out computer users. Your name is mud all over the World Wide Web. So, maybe it would be a good thing for you to keep your pie hole shut about computer software. Preaching enlightenment through computer science, Lenz's organization offers a series of classes in database management and computer systems, but then pushes neophyte programmers to misrepresent themselves in order to obtain lucrative computer consulting contracts - and turn most of the proceeds over to him... Read more: 'The Code Cult of the CPU Guru' By Zachary Margulis Wired, Issue 2.04 http://tinyurl.com/klj2g5
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rajas
On Aug 24, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:25 AM, ruffedgrousepa wrote: Does any one have the e-mail address of all or any of TM movement Rajas? Here's a phone # I believe might work: 1-800-NUT-JOBS Then again, if you happen to get a secretary who won't put you through directly to one of Their Majesties, try these #s...guaranteed to work: 1-800-GAS-BAGS or, in a real pinch: 1-800-OLD-FART Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Keep up the pressure for the public option
raunchydog wrote: Keep up the pressure for the public option.., We don't want a public option - that's just one more insurance company to be subsidized by the government. We want the cost of medical care to be reduced, so we can afford our own medical care. Without a reduction in costs, there are no choices. We don't want the federal government subsidizing any insurance companies, public or private, without any cost containment, period. We want to be able to buy discount prescription medications. The politicians need to get some smarts, before it's too late, and get out of bed with the insurance companies and stop getting paid off by the big pharmaceutical companies. Keep up the pressure for lower health care costs. Don't vote for any politician that accepts donations from insurance companies or big pharmaceuticals. Up to and including Barack Obama. Kick the bums out - don't vote for any of them until they do their job of protecting the U.S. consumer. At present, I see almost none of them doing that - all they are doing is trying to protect their own backside and get re-elected.
[FairfieldLife] Feds can NOT run social secuerity the mail or much else except military
Keep the federal government out of the bed rooms of America. Keep them out of health care its an individual responsibility a state responsibility not federal one except for veterans. They can NOT even balance a budget except for debt thanks to the Chinese buying that debt along with the Japanese gov to finance this debt. The feds can not collect taxes well not that they should on on . when they can do well the above or address the social security problem with its finance balance a or one budget then let states do health care till then its an individual job under our constution. In a message dated 8/24/2009 4:36:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_re...@yahoogroups.com writes: raunchydog wrote: Keep up the pressure for the public option.., We don't want a public option - that's just one more insurance company to be subsidized by the government. We want the cost of medical care to be reduced, so we can afford our own medical care. Without a reduction in costs, there are no choices. We don't want the federal government subsidizing any insurance companies, public or private, without any cost containment, period. We want to be able to buy discount prescription medications. The politicians need to get some smarts, before it's too late, and get out of bed with the insurance companies and stop getting paid off by the big pharmaceutical companies. Keep up the pressure for lower health care costs. Don't vote for any politician that accepts donations from insurance companies or big pharmaceuticals. Up to and including Barack Obama. Kick the bums out - don't vote for any of them until they do their job of protecting the U.S. consumer. At present, I see almost none of them doing that - all they are doing is trying to protect their own backside and get re-elected. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feds can NOT run social secuerity the mail or much else except military
Leed wrote: Keep the federal government out of the bed rooms of America. Keep them out of health care its an individual responsibility a state responsibility not federal one except for veterans... The lesson is clear: when government and other third parties get involved, health care costs spiral. The answer is not a system of outright socialized medicine, but rather a system that encourages everyone doctors, hospitals, patients, and drug companies to keep costs down... Read more: 'Lowering the Cost of Health Care' By Ron Paul http://tinyurl.com/2lxx9a
[FairfieldLife] What would LBJ do? This one's a hoot
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/24/johnson.lbj.health.care/index.html http://tinyurl.com/n7tv4l CNN) -- LBJ would: Have a list of every member of Congress on his desk. He would be on the telephone with members (and their key staffers) constantly: Your president really needs your vote on this bill. He would have a list of every special request every member wanted -- from White House tours to appointments to federal jobs and commissions. He would make a phone call or have a personal visit with every member -- individually or in a group. Charts, graphs, coffee. They would get the Johnson Treatment as nobody else could give it. He would have a willingness to horse-trade with every member. He would keep a list of people who support each member financially. A call to each to tell them to get the vote of that representative. He would have Billy Graham calling Baptists, Cardinal Cushing calling Catholics, Dr. Martin Luther King calling blacks, Henry Gonzales calling Hispanics, Henry Ford and David Rockefeller calling Republicans. He would get Jack Valenti to call the Pope if it would help. He would have speeches written for members for the Congressional Record and hometown newspapers. He would use up White House liquor having nightcaps with the leaders and key members of BOTH parties. Each of them would take home cufflinks, watches, signed photos, and perhaps even a pledge to come raise money for their next election. He would be sending gifts to children and grandchildren of members. He would walk around the South Lawn with reporters telling them why this was important to their own families. He would send every aide in the White House to see every member of the House and Senate. He would send me to see Sen. Richard Russell and Rep. Carl Vinson because I am a Georgian. He would call media executives Kay Graham, Frank Stanton, Robert Kintner, and the heads of every network. He would go to pray at six different churches. He would do newspaper, radio and TV interviews -- especially with Merriman Smith, Hugh Sidey, Sid Davis, Forrest Boyd, Ray Scherer, Helen Thomas, Marianne Means, Walter Cronkite, Phil Potter, Bob Novak. He would threaten, cajole, flirt, flatter, hug -- and get the health care bill passed. The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Tom Johnson.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What would LBJ do? This one's a hoot
Oh, and you forgot one other thing that LBJ would do: Use the n word. In order to pander to his fellow southerners that he knew to be bigots, LBJ wouldn't hesitate to liberally use the n word. We know this to be true because you can hear him doing exactly that on the very same tape system that a few years later brought down Richard Nixon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1rIDmDWSms And this wasn't an isolated incident. Just google the n-word along with lyndon johnson and tapes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/24/johnson.lbj.health.care/index.html http://tinyurl.com/n7tv4l CNN) -- LBJ would: Have a list of every member of Congress on his desk. He would be on the telephone with members (and their key staffers) constantly: Your president really needs your vote on this bill. He would have a list of every special request every member wanted -- from White House tours to appointments to federal jobs and commissions. He would make a phone call or have a personal visit with every member -- individually or in a group. Charts, graphs, coffee. They would get the Johnson Treatment as nobody else could give it. He would have a willingness to horse-trade with every member. He would keep a list of people who support each member financially. A call to each to tell them to get the vote of that representative. He would have Billy Graham calling Baptists, Cardinal Cushing calling Catholics, Dr. Martin Luther King calling blacks, Henry Gonzales calling Hispanics, Henry Ford and David Rockefeller calling Republicans. He would get Jack Valenti to call the Pope if it would help. He would have speeches written for members for the Congressional Record and hometown newspapers. He would use up White House liquor having nightcaps with the leaders and key members of BOTH parties. Each of them would take home cufflinks, watches, signed photos, and perhaps even a pledge to come raise money for their next election. He would be sending gifts to children and grandchildren of members. He would walk around the South Lawn with reporters telling them why this was important to their own families. He would send every aide in the White House to see every member of the House and Senate. He would send me to see Sen. Richard Russell and Rep. Carl Vinson because I am a Georgian. He would call media executives Kay Graham, Frank Stanton, Robert Kintner, and the heads of every network. He would go to pray at six different churches. He would do newspaper, radio and TV interviews -- especially with Merriman Smith, Hugh Sidey, Sid Davis, Forrest Boyd, Ray Scherer, Helen Thomas, Marianne Means, Walter Cronkite, Phil Potter, Bob Novak. He would threaten, cajole, flirt, flatter, hug -- and get the health care bill passed. The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Tom Johnson.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Denied, to Invincible America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Folks saying good-bye. The last few days I learned that five long-time friends are leaving Fairfield now. From different circles. Long-time meditators. From different parts of the meditating community. *** Jefferson County unemployment rate is 7.9%, higher than Iowa's 6.5%: http://www.iowaworkforce.org/lmi/laborforce/etables/area51.txt http://www.iowaworkforce.org/lmi/laborforce/etables/area51.txt http://www.iowaworkforce.org/news/XcNewsPlus.asp?articleid=81cmd=view http://www.iowaworkforce.org/news/XcNewsPlus.asp?articleid=81cmd=view It might be that some people simply can't make it in FF anymore -- either they lost their job, or their business is not going well because of the lack of paying customers. Unemployment rate is nearly 15% where I am in SoCal, so FF's 8% looks pretty good -- although in a town of 9500 people, work is sparse anyway, regardless of the unemployment rate.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What would LBJ do? This one's a hoot
Oh, man, makes me want to weep. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/24/johnson.lbj.health.care/index.html http://tinyurl.com/n7tv4l CNN) -- LBJ would: Have a list of every member of Congress on his desk. He would be on the telephone with members (and their key staffers) constantly: Your president really needs your vote on this bill. He would have a list of every special request every member wanted -- from White House tours to appointments to federal jobs and commissions. He would make a phone call or have a personal visit with every member -- individually or in a group. Charts, graphs, coffee. They would get the Johnson Treatment as nobody else could give it. He would have a willingness to horse-trade with every member. He would keep a list of people who support each member financially. A call to each to tell them to get the vote of that representative. He would have Billy Graham calling Baptists, Cardinal Cushing calling Catholics, Dr. Martin Luther King calling blacks, Henry Gonzales calling Hispanics, Henry Ford and David Rockefeller calling Republicans. He would get Jack Valenti to call the Pope if it would help. He would have speeches written for members for the Congressional Record and hometown newspapers. He would use up White House liquor having nightcaps with the leaders and key members of BOTH parties. Each of them would take home cufflinks, watches, signed photos, and perhaps even a pledge to come raise money for their next election. He would be sending gifts to children and grandchildren of members. He would walk around the South Lawn with reporters telling them why this was important to their own families. He would send every aide in the White House to see every member of the House and Senate. He would send me to see Sen. Richard Russell and Rep. Carl Vinson because I am a Georgian. He would call media executives Kay Graham, Frank Stanton, Robert Kintner, and the heads of every network. He would go to pray at six different churches. He would do newspaper, radio and TV interviews -- especially with Merriman Smith, Hugh Sidey, Sid Davis, Forrest Boyd, Ray Scherer, Helen Thomas, Marianne Means, Walter Cronkite, Phil Potter, Bob Novak. He would threaten, cajole, flirt, flatter, hug -- and get the health care bill passed. The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Tom Johnson.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What would LBJ do? This one's a hoot
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 4:23 PM, shempmcgurkshempmcg...@netscape.net wrote: Oh, and you forgot one other thing that LBJ would do: Use the n word. In order to pander to his fellow southerners that he knew to be bigots, LBJ wouldn't hesitate to liberally use the n word. We know this to be true because you can hear him doing exactly that on the very same tape system that a few years later brought down Richard Nixon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1rIDmDWSms And this wasn't an isolated incident. Just google the n-word along with lyndon johnson and tapes. And your point about a southerner, a Texan who used to drive from Johnson City to Austin in his pajamas to buy beer using a then very common word ( do you donate to the United Negro College Fund? ) is? LBJ was Mr. Civil Rights. He grew up very poor (KLBJ and the Johnson spread come from Lady Bird's family) and he knew about being down and out. Plus of course, he knew that those n's would vote Democrat and he was creating a Democrat legacy for years to come (he thought). Tell me the history of the Dixiecrats. Aren't they the forefathers of the Blue Dogs?
[FairfieldLife] OMG !! --- Michael Jackson's death ruled homicide !
OMG !! --- Michael Jackson's death ruled homicide ! http://tinyurl.com/mcqzkh http://tinyurl.com/mcqzkh OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Rick Archerr...@... wrote: Does any one have the e-mail address of all or any of TM movement Rajas? Tom Stanley: stanl...@... John Konhaus: rajajohnkonh...@... Rogers Badgett: rogersb...@... Kingsley Brooks is on Facebook. Do you have the address of the Nazi? I want to send him fan mail. `All Correspondence can be sent to: Bevan Morris aka Joseph Goebbels, at The Third Reich Reichstag Berlin, Germany... Att/ Bevan Morris.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: I don't even know if I'd be eligible for a flu shot. There's a shortage, and I don't think I'm in a high risk category. 59 yrs. old. Not pregnant. ** Probably only the most at-risk people should get the flu vaccine, based on recent experiences with flu vaccination: http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-he-tamiflu24-2009aug24,0,46646\ 54.story http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-he-tamiflu24-2009aug24,0,4664\ 654.story Indiscriminate use of antiviral medications to prevent and treat influenza could ease the way for drug-resistant strains of the novel H1N1 virus, or swine flu, to emerge, public health officials warn -- making the fight against a pandemic that much harder. Already, a handful of cases of Tamiflu-resistant H1N1 have been reported this summer, and there is no shortage of examples of misuse of the antiviral medications, experts say. People often fail to complete a full course of the drug, according to a recent British report -- a scenario also likely to be occurring in the U.S. and one that encourages resistance. Stockpiling is rife, and some U.S. summer camps have given Tamiflu prophylactically to healthy kids and staff, and have even told campers to bring the drug to camp. Experts anticipate more problems in the fall as children return to school and normal flu season draws nearer. Influenza viruses mutate frequently and any viral resistance could be acquired easily, said Dr. Anne Schuchat, director of the National Center on Immunization and Respiratory Disease at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. It won't surprise us if we see resistance emerge as a bigger problem in the fall or in the years ahead. Prescribed in pill form, Tamiflu (oseltamivir) works by preventing the flu virus from leaving infected cells and spreading to new ones. Because a vaccine against pandemic H1N1 influenza will not be widely available for several months, Tamiflu and to a lesser extent Relenza (zanamivir), an antiviral that acts similarly, are key medical tools for fighting the pandemic in the meantime. On Friday, however, the World Health Organization advised doctors that even those who are sickened with swine flu do not need to be given Tamiflu or Relenza if they are only mildly or moderately sick and are not in a high-risk group (such as children under 5, pregnant women and those with an underlying health condition). Both drugs can help prevent illness in people exposed to the virus and reduce illness severity in people already sickened with it. On Aug. 14, after U.S. national soccer team forward Landon Donovan was diagnosed with H1N1 flu, players, coaches and support staff of the U.S. and Galaxy teams were advised to take Tamiflu as a preventive measure. Tamiflu was chosen a few years ago for stockpiling by the federal government to deal with future pandemics. Health authorities in the United States and elsewhere are keeping a sharp eye on prescriptions of the drug as they prepare for a surge of H1N1 cases in the fall. The U.S. government has issued detailed guidelines http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/recommendations.htm on prescribing antivirals. But health professionals may not follow the recommendations or may give in to patients who pester them for prescriptions that are ill-advised, said Dr. Robert Schechter, acting chief of the immunization branch of the California Department of Public Health. These medicines can be very helpful to those who could get very sick, Schechter said. But excessive use will accelerate the development of resistance and lead to the lack of a medication for everybody. Anxiety over indiscriminate use is growing, and taking the medications cavalierly is not without consequence. British health authorities reported Aug. 2 that cases of side effects from Tamiflu had doubled in the prior week, coinciding with the July 24 launch of a program in England to provide antivirals to anyone with H1N1 influenza who requests it over the phone or online. In the first three days of the program, 150,000 packets of Tamiflu were dispensed and 293 cases of side effects were reported. Tamiflu can cause vomiting, diarrhea and mild neuropsychiatric effects. Some U.S. health authorities have also expressed concern over misuse of the medications. Last month, the CDC urged directors of summer camps to stop handing out Tamiflu to healthy campers. Americans are known to hoard antivirals: A 2006 study showed that heightened anxiety over a possible avian flu pandemic caused Tamiflu prescriptions to soar 300% in 2004 and 2005. Just as with antibiotics, of central importance to antivirals' success is taking them properly, including completing the recommended course. However, a study published in late July found poor adherence among children in London who took Tamiflu for prevention of pandemic H1N1 in the spring. Less than half of the grade-school-age children and only 76% of the 13- and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:23 PM, bob_briganteno_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Indiscriminate use of antiviral medications to prevent and treat influenza could ease the way for drug-resistant strains of the novel H1N1 virus, or swine flu, to emerge, public health officials warn -- making the fight against a pandemic that much harder. Already, a handful of cases of Tamiflu-resistant H1N1 have been reported this summer, and there is no shortage of examples of misuse of the antiviral medications, experts say. Remember Cipro, the wonder drug of 2001 everybody stocked, available in the US via shady mail order? Recently had a UTI. The doctor said Cipro was out of the question. To many bugs are now resistant to it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: WillyTex REALLY IS is a RAGING SOCIALIST !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex no_re...@... wrote: Well, I fail to see the connection between my group policy and my elderly parents. They have private insurance and Medicare and Medicaid... Off: I see, so you are happy they have government run medicare and medicaid, paid for by the taxpayers, so that you do not have to look after them and pay for them. My parents both have private insurance and like everyone else, Medicare and Medicaid. But the Medicare and Medicaid are supplements to the private insurance. I'm am glad my parents had good jobs and a good group policy: the USAF. The air force is PAID FOR BY TAX PAYERS. IT IS A SOCIALIST SYSTEM ! Your parents are ENTIRELY supported by tax payers. They were ENTIRELEY supported by tax payers when they were workling, and are STILL entirely and UTTERLY supported with tax payers money. I, Tom Barlow, a Brit, PAY FOR YOUR PARENTS. I DON'T MIND PAYING FOR THEM ! ... I AM GLAD TO HELP THEM ! Go ask them if they think the tax-payer should stop paying for the military and military pensions? Go ahead WillyTex, let's see what they answer. YOU ARE A RAGING SOCIALIST ! And your parents are too. My Dad was in the The Royal Airforce as a navigator in the British equivalent of a B52 (except the British planes were far superior and world record-breaking high flying aircraft) , and later he was in the Air Traffic Control. My Dad, like your parents, also has a very good government pension, only much better that theirs, and endless healthcare - more than even people in America who pay for insurance can get. Much more, much better. And he is all for healthcare for everyone. He is all for caring about others in society when they need it. Like the majority of people in the civilised world, he thinks that the government should make sure that happens, and that everyone should chip in for it. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:23 PM, bob_briganteno_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Indiscriminate use of antiviral medications to prevent and treat influenza could ease the way for drug-resistant strains of the novel H1N1 virus, or swine flu, to emerge, public health officials warn -- making the fight against a pandemic that much harder. Already, a handful of cases of Tamiflu-resistant H1N1 have been reported this summer, and there is no shortage of examples of misuse of the antiviral medications, experts say. Remember Cipro, the wonder drug of 2001 everybody stocked, available in the US via shady mail order? Recently had a UTI. The doctor said Cipro was out of the question. To many bugs are now resistant to it. *** http://www.sciencecodex.com/unlocking_the_secret_of_the_bladders_bouncer\ s http://www.sciencecodex.com/unlocking_the_secret_of_the_bladders_bounce\ rs
[FairfieldLife] Fed-Ex and UPS are FUNDED BY TAX-PAYERS ! ------ was//Feds can NOT run the mail
Re: Feds can NOT run the mail Bullshit. Fed-Ex and UPS are FUNDED BY TAX PAYERS ! They are supposed to be self-sufficient private businesses ! They are in debt to the banks like most businesses. The banks are in debt to their UberBanks, and he UberBanks ARE IN DEBT TO THE TAX PAYER. Fed-Ex and UPS are unfair competition for the Post Office because they are ILLEGALLY funded by the tax payer and people don't even realise it. All tax payers money should be recalled from Fed-Ex and UPS. We, the tax payer, want ALL OF OUR MONEY BACK from Fed-Ex and UPS. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , wle...@... wrote: Keep the federal government out of the bed rooms of America. Keep them out of health care its an individual responsibility a state responsibility not federal one except for veterans. They can NOT even balance a budget except for debt thanks to the Chinese buying that debt along with the Japanese gov to finance this debt. The feds can not collect taxes well not that they should on on . when they can do well the above or address the social security problem with its finance balance a or one budget then let states do health care till then its an individual job under our constution. In a message dated 8/24/2009 4:36:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com writes: raunchydog wrote: Keep up the pressure for the public option.., We don't want a public option - that's just one more insurance company to be subsidized by the government. We want the cost of medical care to be reduced, so we can afford our own medical care. Without a reduction in costs, there are no choices. We don't want the federal government subsidizing any insurance companies, public or private, without any cost containment, period. We want to be able to buy discount prescription medications. The politicians need to get some smarts, before it's too late, and get out of bed with the insurance companies and stop getting paid off by the big pharmaceutical companies. Keep up the pressure for lower health care costs. Don't vote for any politician that accepts donations from insurance companies or big pharmaceuticals. Up to and including Barack Obama. Kick the bums out - don't vote for any of them until they do their job of protecting the U.S. consumer. At present, I see almost none of them doing that - all they are doing is trying to protect their own backside and get re-elected. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: What would LBJ do? This one's a hoot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 4:23 PM, shempmcgurkshempmcg...@... wrote: Oh, and you forgot one other thing that LBJ would do: Use the n word. In order to pander to his fellow southerners that he knew to be bigots, LBJ wouldn't hesitate to liberally use the n word. We know this to be true because you can hear him doing exactly that on the very same tape system that a few years later brought down Richard Nixon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1rIDmDWSms And this wasn't an isolated incident. Just google the n-word along with lyndon johnson and tapes. And your point about a southerner, a Texan who used to drive from Johnson City to Austin in his pajamas to buy beer using a then very common word ( do you donate to the United Negro College Fund? ) is? LBJ was Mr. Civil Rights. He grew up very poor (KLBJ and the Johnson spread come from Lady Bird's family) and he knew about being down and out. Plus of course, he knew that those n's would vote Democrat and he was creating a Democrat legacy for years to come (he thought). Tell me the history of the Dixiecrats. Aren't they the forefathers of the Blue Dogs? I'm sorry, Bill, I'd like to respond to the above but I don't understand much of the rambling. Could you please reword your questions in a form I'll understand?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fed-Ex and UPS are FUNDED BY TAX-PAYERS ! ------ was//Feds can NOT run the mail
Oh well, I guess UPS will just have to cancel that contract with those 200,000+ teamsters! Do those unemployed teamsters go in August or Septembers unemployent numbers? --- On Mon, 8/24/09, off_world_beings no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: off_world_beings no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fed-Ex and UPS are FUNDED BY TAX-PAYERS ! -- was//Feds can NOT run the mail To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 10:47 PM Re: Feds can NOT run the mail Bullshit. Fed-Ex and UPS are FUNDED BY TAX PAYERS ! They are supposed to be self-sufficient private businesses ! They are in debt to the banks like most businesses. The banks are in debt to their UberBanks, and he UberBanks ARE IN DEBT TO THE TAX PAYER. Fed-Ex and UPS are unfair competition for the Post Office because they are ILLEGALLY funded by the tax payer and people don't even realise it. All tax payers money should be recalled from Fed-Ex and UPS. We, the tax payer, want ALL OF OUR MONEY BACK from Fed-Ex and UPS. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, wle...@... wrote: Keep the federal government out of the bed rooms of America. Keep them out of health care its an individual responsibility a state responsibility not federal one except for veterans. They can NOT even balance a budget except for debt thanks to the Chinese buying that debt along with the Japanese gov to finance this debt. The feds can not collect taxes well not that they should on on . when they can do well the above or address the social security problem with its finance balance a or one budget then let states do health care till then its an individual job under our constution. In a message dated 8/24/2009 4:36:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_re...@yahoogroup s.com writes: raunchydog wrote: Keep up the pressure for the public option.., We don't want a public option - that's just one more insurance company to be subsidized by the government. We want the cost of medical care to be reduced, so we can afford our own medical care. Without a reduction in costs, there are no choices. We don't want the federal government subsidizing any insurance companies, public or private, without any cost containment, period. We want to be able to buy discount prescription medications. The politicians need to get some smarts, before it's too late, and get out of bed with the insurance companies and stop getting paid off by the big pharmaceutical companies. Keep up the pressure for lower health care costs. Don't vote for any politician that accepts donations from insurance companies or big pharmaceuticals. Up to and including Barack Obama. Kick the bums out - don't vote for any of them until they do their job of protecting the U.S. consumer. At present, I see almost none of them doing that - all they are doing is trying to protect their own backside and get re-elected. - - -- To subscribe, send a message to: FairfieldLife- subscribe@ yahoogroups. com Or go to: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/FairfieldL ife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: I don't even know if I'd be eligible for a flu shot. There's a shortage, and I don't think I'm in a high risk category. 59 yrs. old. Not pregnant. ** Probably only the most at-risk people should get the flu vaccine, based on recent experiences with flu vaccination: Oy, Bob, this story is NOT about the flu vaccine. It's about Tamiflu and Relenza, antiviral medications you take in pill or nasal spray form to *treat* the flu. Nothing to do with the vaccine AT ALL. PLEASE don't confuse the issue!!!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fed-Ex and UPS are FUNDED BY TAX-PAYERS ! - MIKE DIXON is a SOCIALIST !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: Oh well, I guess UPS will just have to cancel that contract with those 200,000+ teamsters! Do those unemployed teamsters go in August or Septembers unemployent numbers? So you support this Socialist system? The post office is under threat because of unfair competition by private businesses WHO ARE SUPPORTED by the TAX PAYER ! Do you want the 800,000 postal workers to become unemployed while letting a private company leach off the Taxpayers? You too are a RAGING SOCIALIST. OffWorld --- On Mon, 8/24/09, off_world_beings no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: off_world_beings no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fed-Ex and UPS are FUNDED BY TAX-PAYERS ! -- was//Feds can NOT run the mail To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 10:47 PM Re: Feds can NOT run the mail Bullshit. Fed-Ex and UPS are FUNDED BY TAX PAYERS ! They are supposed to be self-sufficient private businesses ! They are in debt to the banks like most businesses. The banks are in debt to their UberBanks, and he UberBanks ARE IN DEBT TO THE TAX PAYER. Fed-Ex and UPS are unfair competition for the Post Office because they are ILLEGALLY funded by the tax payer and people don't even realise it. All tax payers money should be recalled from Fed-Ex and UPS. We, the tax payer, want ALL OF OUR MONEY BACK from Fed-Ex and UPS. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, WLeed3@ wrote: Keep the federal government out of the bed rooms of America. Keep them out of health care its an individual responsibility a state responsibility not federal one except for veterans. They can NOT even balance a budget except for debt thanks to the Chinese buying that debt along with the Japanese gov to finance this debt. The feds can not collect taxes well not that they should on on . when they can do well the above or address the social security problem with its finance balance a or one budget then let states do health care till then its an individual job under our constution. In a message dated 8/24/2009 4:36:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_re...@yahoogroup mailto:no_re...@yahoogroup s.com writes: raunchydog wrote: Keep up the pressure for the public option.., We don't want a public option - that's just one more insurance company to be subsidized by the government. We want the cost of medical care to be reduced, so we can afford our own medical care. Without a reduction in costs, there are no choices. We don't want the federal government subsidizing any insurance companies, public or private, without any cost containment, period. We want to be able to buy discount prescription medications. The politicians need to get some smarts, before it's too late, and get out of bed with the insurance companies and stop getting paid off by the big pharmaceutical companies. Keep up the pressure for lower health care costs. Don't vote for any politician that accepts donations from insurance companies or big pharmaceuticals. Up to and including Barack Obama. Kick the bums out - don't vote for any of them until they do their job of protecting the U.S. consumer. At present, I see almost none of them doing that - all they are doing is trying to protect their own backside and get re-elected. - - -- To subscribe, send a message to: FairfieldLife- subscribe@ yahoogroups. com Or go to: http://groups http://groups . yahoo.com/ group/FairfieldL ife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: I don't even know if I'd be eligible for a flu shot. There's a shortage, and I don't think I'm in a high risk category. 59 yrs. old. Not pregnant. No, you probably won't be able to get a swine flu shot with the first batches they release. But later on there'll be more available, quite possibly for those not in high- risk groups. And you should get the seasonal flu shot, of which there'll be plenty.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Feds can NOT run social secuerity the mail or much else except military
The U.S. Mail has, actually, become one of the few government enterprises that does quite a good job. If you're a subscriber of Netflix, as I am, you see this on a daily basis whenever you order movies online and notice how quickly and consistently they are delivered. In a way, the Netflix/Post Offica alliance is probably the best advertising/publicity the Post Office could ever hope for. And my experience in shipping packages cross-country is quite satisfactory as well. Not so once things have to be shipped internationally, such as to Canada. However, much of that success -- if not all of it -- is due to competition. It wasn't until the advent of competitors such as UPS and Fed-Ex infringing on their territory that the Post Office got off their butt and started to do things efficiently. Same with the advent of email which has cut out so much of the need for personal correspondence by mail that it has made the post office become a glorified door-to-door distributor of advertising flyers for local businesses. Well, that's what makes up about 80% of MY daily mail. So, yeah, let's have a government health plan compete with the private ones. BUT LET'S ALSO EXTEND THAT PRINCIPLE TO SOCIAL SECURITY AS WELL. Those that want to opt out can and should be allowed to. What's sauce for the goose, Mr. President, is sauce for the gander. So don't tell us that the private sector shouldn't be afraid to have competition from government when you aren't willing to extend that principle to other areas. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wle...@... wrote: Keep the federal government out of the bed rooms of America. Keep them out of health care its an individual responsibility a state responsibility not federal one except for veterans. They can NOT even balance a budget except for debt thanks to the Chinese buying that debt along with the Japanese gov to finance this debt. The feds can not collect taxes well not that they should on on . when they can do well the above or address the social security problem with its finance balance a or one budget then let states do health care till then its an individual job under our constution. In a message dated 8/24/2009 4:36:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_re...@yahoogroups.com writes: raunchydog wrote: Keep up the pressure for the public option.., We don't want a public option - that's just one more insurance company to be subsidized by the government. We want the cost of medical care to be reduced, so we can afford our own medical care. Without a reduction in costs, there are no choices. We don't want the federal government subsidizing any insurance companies, public or private, without any cost containment, period. We want to be able to buy discount prescription medications. The politicians need to get some smarts, before it's too late, and get out of bed with the insurance companies and stop getting paid off by the big pharmaceutical companies. Keep up the pressure for lower health care costs. Don't vote for any politician that accepts donations from insurance companies or big pharmaceuticals. Up to and including Barack Obama. Kick the bums out - don't vote for any of them until they do their job of protecting the U.S. consumer. At present, I see almost none of them doing that - all they are doing is trying to protect their own backside and get re-elected. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Republican Agenda'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, babajii_99 babajii...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nelsonriddle2001 nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, babajii_99 babajii_99@ wrote: Anti-Constitutional and want to establish a monied Monarchy.. Because they are: 'Of the Money, by the Money, and for the Money... Simple, huh? Money first, second and third...the people last on the list... If you have no money, to the Republicans, you just don't count...as a human being... Kind of demonic, don't ya think? r.g. As an opinion, I think the present administration trying to rewrite the first and second amendment is a problem. (amongst others) And, How are they trying to do that? Is that something you heard on Fox(CIA)News? R.g. No, it is various legislation like H.R. 45 and others that the anti second amendment majority in Washington are trying to put thru. With the latest supreme court pick, things have gotten even worse.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does This Story 'Ring' True?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: 'JFK's (CIA) Driver pulled the trigger!' http://community-2.webtv.net/Larry762/fontcolor3300FF/page4.html A few years ago, met someone in Sedona, AZ... Who said his father was a CIA guy, and he had been also... He invited me to see a âSecret CIAâ film he had, to show me: Of who really winged the murder shot, That killed President Kennedy, in broad day light. And why the limo slowed down, and why Jackie Kennedy tried to escape from the car... The whole thing, seemed to âDark and Spookyâ at the time, so I never took him up, on his offer... Anyway, I was curious to see, what he had told me, would be documented on the âInternetsâ... But, it makes sense, in that it seems this dark shadow government has been pulling the strings behind the scenes, since that day, in Dallas, Texas...(âBush Terror-toryâ) From that day on, we have been âAt Warâ with something, or other... First their was the Viet Nam war. The War on Poverty. The war on MLK The war on RFK The adoption of the âSouthern Stategyâ...war on liberals. The War on Drugs. The War on the Middle Classâ The War on People like John Lennon(Nixonâs hope to deport John) Reaganâs war on government, war on the poor, to scheister everything to the top, and expect it to âTrickle Down?â...what a joke he was! Hollywood movie actor, reading his lines, for you know who... Secret dealing with the Iranians, to sell weapons, sway the election, Contra/Drug running...flooding the market with cocaine. Big Biz Takeover of all media... Supreme court elects President, illegally. Cheney strengthens the âShadow Government, with secret dealings.. More and more manipulation of the Wall St. dealings... Strengthening the grip of the military/ corporate takeover of America. Outsourcing of jobs, for cheap overseas labor... Invading Iraq, for oil, and not worrying about the 100,000âs people killed, maimed and terrorized. As he, like his friends are psychopaths, or one having no conscious, soul-less. The creation of war vehicles, to be sold to the general public(Hummers) A liar President who manipulated the Corporate owned media, to do his bidding... The false price gouging of the oil companies, to $4.50 a gallon. The stealing of 700 billion from the US treasury, as their last act in office, after they bankrupted the country.. The war on Liberal and Progressives by the Corporate[CIA] ââChristian-Reich Wing Media, like Fox, and all the rest of the âBrainwashed Soul-less Zombiesâ... Add your own All this time I thought you were anti conspiracy theory wow.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Republican Agenda'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nelsonriddle2001 nelsonriddle2...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, babajii_99 babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nelsonriddle2001 nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: snip As an opinion, I think the present administration trying to rewrite the first and second amendment is a problem. (amongst others) And, How are they trying to do that? Is that something you heard on Fox(CIA)News? R.g. No, it is various legislation like H.R. 45 and others that the anti second amendment majority in Washington are trying to put thru. Um, there is no anti second amendment majority in Washington.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Republican Agenda'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nelsonriddle2001 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:31 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Republican Agenda' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , babajii_99 babajii_99@ wrote: Anti-Constitutional and want to establish a monied Monarchy.. Because they are: 'Of the Money, by the Money, and for the Money... Simple, huh? Money first, second and third...the people last on the list... If you have no money, to the Republicans, you just don't count...as a human being... Kind of demonic, don't ya think? r.g. As an opinion, I think the present administration trying to rewrite the first and second amendment is a problem. (amongst others) Might be if they were, but you're just expressing the usual right-wing habit of getting all wee-weed up (Obama's expression) over fabricated, unfounded fears. Being a bright lad, I expect you noticed that everyone in Washington is seriously anti second amendment. (name any of the top players) Do you think it is accidental?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: I don't even know if I'd be eligible for a flu shot. There's a shortage, and I don't think I'm in a high risk category. 59 yrs. old. Not pregnant. No, you probably won't be able to get a swine flu shot with the first batches they release. But later on there'll be more available, quite possibly for those not in high- risk groups. And you should get the seasonal flu shot, of which there'll be plenty. Why should Rick bother with the seasonal shot if he rarely if ever gets the flu? People who meditate should be able to recognize the early invasion of a virus in the body. Way earlier than a non-meditating person would. If you have a still mind then it is easy. That's one of the things we learned meditation for. As soon as you notice it there are a number of things one can do. Even MAPI has some flu recommendations on their site. And for the ayurvedic challenged, flu usually occurs when one has a kapha imbalance and because of the excess mucus the virus has a lot goo to play around in. Dry up the goo and see what happens. BTW, that is how many cold medicines work is to dry you out. That's what pseudo-ephedrine does which now the government makes you register if you want some tablets with it in it. Of course you can grow the herb ephedra in your garden. It grows wild all over the US. Your kitchen cabinet contains many cold and flu relief items already. I highly recommend Vasant Lad's The Complete Book of Ayurvedic Home Remedies to learn what those are.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Republican Agenda'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nelsonriddle2001 nelsonriddle2...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, babajii_99 babajii_99@ wrote: [snip] As an opinion, I think the present administration trying to rewrite the first and second amendment is a problem. (amongst others) And, How are they trying to do that? Is that something you heard on Fox(CIA)News? R.g. No, it is various legislation like H.R. 45 and others that the anti second amendment majority in Washington are trying to put thru. With the latest supreme court pick, things have gotten even worse. More paranoid horse shit from the loser wingnuts: As was the 2007 version of Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act, the current version has been referred to the House Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security, and the fact that the bill does not have even a single co-sponsor makes it unlikely that it will ever be brought to a vote before Congress, much less passed. ESPN Outdoors correspondent Wade Bourne summed up the bill's chances of passage thusly: So, how likely is the Blair Holt bill's chance for passage? Pro-gun activists are vigilant but don't seem overly worried about it. They point out that the bill's failure to attract co-sponsors is an indication of a lack of enthusiasm for it among other congressmen... http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: snip I've never had a flu shot and I think I only got the flu once bad enough to have to lay low and just read a book for a few days. Most years I don't get sick at all, and if I do get a mild something or other after the sleep deprivation and crowds of an Amma event, it's usually not bad enough that I can't work or do normal things. Yebbut...that you've been sick with flu only once before doesn't tell you anything about whether you'll get it again--especially the current swine flu, which is new and different, so people don't have antibodies to it. (And if you're able to work and do normal things, that probably isn't the flu anyway, of any type.) The real point is, though, that even if you're not worried about catching the flu yourself, you should get the shot; because if you do catch it, you can spread it to other people who haven't had the shot (even before you actually start having symptoms), and who may be more vulnerable to getting *very* sick if they catch it. You wouldn't just be protecting yourself, in other words. Yebbut? A friend who is a psychology professor and former TM'er himself says that TM'ers for some reason respond with yes, but. He therefore calls them yesbutts. ;-) Um, Yes, but... is a common phrase used in any discussion. Folks are beginning to wonder if Judy has Baxter stock. Oh, yeah, right. The flu spread argument is a straw dog. Google herd immunity. It's a well-established epidemiological principle. She's trying to make you feel guilty. Translation: Bhairitu feels guilty. Many people don't know about the herd immunity principle and don't realize that their personal decision about whether to get a flu shot doesn't affect just them. There's no reason to feel guilty about not knowing about herd immunity. But once you *do* know about it, you have a different perspective on whether to get a shot--again, because it isn't something that affects only you. Would be really odd if there was a flu epidemic but those who survived were the ones who didn't get the shot. Yes, that *would* be really odd. Reminds me of a science fiction story Me too. Do you usually make decisions about your health based on science fiction stories? where the rulers on this distant planet decided it was overpopulated and wanted to reduce the population so they said there was a big epidemic coming and told their populace to get vaccinated. But it was actually the vaccine that killed off the populace. I would guess that, in this case, there might be some odds that it might not be science fiction.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: I don't even know if I'd be eligible for a flu shot. There's a shortage, and I don't think I'm in a high risk category. 59 yrs. old. Not pregnant. No, you probably won't be able to get a swine flu shot with the first batches they release. But later on there'll be more available, quite possibly for those not in high- risk groups. And you should get the seasonal flu shot, of which there'll be plenty. Why should Rick bother with the seasonal shot if he rarely if ever gets the flu? Because having gotten it rarely if ever in the past says NOTHING about whether you'll get it in the future. It's like saying, I've never had an auto accident, so why should I bother with a seat belt? The whole thing with the flu virus is that it keeps *changing* every year--that's why they have new shots every year, because the previous ones don't give you immunity to the most recent virus. It's especially important not to get the seasonal flu this year because we'll have a double dose of flu virus, so a lot more people are going to get sick. This is going to strain health care resources, hospitals and doctors and clinics and emergency rooms. Anything we can do to *minimize* that number will be to the good. People who meditate should be able to recognize the early invasion of a virus in the body. Way earlier than a non-meditating person would. If you have a still mind then it is easy. That's one of the things we learned meditation for. I'm sorry, but this is utterly irrelevant as a basis for not getting a flu shot, seasonal or swine type. The point is NOT TO GET INVADED IN THE FIRST PLACE. As soon as you notice it there are a number of things one can do. Even MAPI has some flu recommendations on their site. And for the ayurvedic challenged, flu usually occurs when one has a kapha imbalance and because of the excess mucus the virus has a lot goo to play around in. Dry up the goo and see what happens. BTW, that is how many cold medicines work is to dry you out. Sorry, Bhairitu, but you're as ignorant of medical facts as the town-hall shouters are about health reform. Drying up your secretions is *not* going to prevent you from getting the flu. In fact, it may make you more vulnerable. And of course once you've noticed it, via woo-woo or because you start to feel lousy, it means you've been spreading the virus around already for several days. Sure, there are lots of things you can do to make yourself feel somewhat better once you've come down with it, but the point is NOT TO GET IT IN THE FIRST PLACE IF YOU CAN POSSIBLY HELP IT. Once you've been infected--which will very likely be well before you notice--you'll be shedding the virus throughout the illness and for up to a week after all your symptoms have disappeared. Look up HERD IMMUNITY, please. BTW, drying up your secretions is not a good way to deal with an ordinary cold. The best way is to *push fluids*, especially *warm* fluids, to dilute the secretions so they'll drain more easily, and because the cold virus doesn't like higher temperatures.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Republican Agenda'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nelsonriddle2001 nelsonriddle2...@... wrote: snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: [Nelson wrote:] As an opinion, I think the present administration trying to rewrite the first and second amendment is a problem. (amongst others) Might be if they were, but you're just expressing the usual right-wing habit of getting all wee-weed up (Obama's expression) over fabricated, unfounded fears. Being a bright lad, I expect you noticed that everyone in Washington is seriously anti second amendment. (name any of the top players) PSST. Being for stricter gun control is NOT THE SAME as being against the Second Amendment.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Republican Agenda'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nelsonriddle2001 nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, babajii_99 babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nelsonriddle2001 nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: snip As an opinion, I think the present administration trying to rewrite the first and second amendment is a problem. (amongst others) And, How are they trying to do that? Is that something you heard on Fox(CIA)News? R.g. No, it is various legislation like H.R. 45 and others that the anti second amendment majority in Washington are trying to put thru. Um, there is no anti second amendment majority in Washington. The president,Pelosi, Fienstien, Shumer, Holder, Clinton, The recent supreme court pick--cant think of the rest now and, I believe, no second amendment proponent will be appointed for anything in the present administration.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Republican Agenda'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nelsonriddle2001 nelsonriddle2...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Um, there is no anti second amendment majority in Washington. The president,Pelosi, Fienstien, Shumer, Holder, Clinton, The recent supreme court pick--cant think of the rest now and, I believe, no second amendment proponent will be appointed for anything in the present administration. These are people who FAVOR STRICTER GUN CONTROL, not who oppose the Second Amendment. Two different things. What you're suggesting is like the notion that being in favor of Medicare paying doctors for end-of-life counseling is the same as being in favor of euthanasia. Come to think of it, you probably believe that too.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who is Tom Barlow ------------- was////Willytex is on Medicare
On Aug 24, 2009, at 7:50 AM, seekliberation wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Aug 22, 2009, at 5:54 PM, off_world_beings wrote: I am 47 years old. I swim 80 lengths of butterfly most days - that is when I am not literally running up mountains, or cross- country skiing at the lodge. In winter, I drive to the lodge, ski for about 3 hours, then work in a local cafe for about 4-5 hours, then go ski or swim for about 1-2 hours, then go home or go out with friends. God, are you a little Vata or what? Actually, anything requiring that kind of endurance described by 'Off is not a vata trait, it's more kapha. I was looking more at the pattern of behavior in his real life and the space-cadet life he lives here. If I saw a good picture, I could type him right off (please, no off_list pictures). Kapha doesn't necessarily mean lazy. It may indicate a resistance to activity up front, but once it gets going.it doesn't stop, and it gives the staying power to go to the end. I think a typical vata wouldn't have the endurance to go as long as offworld is describing here. Fired and fueled by a high-vata, most likely some weird vegetarian- based diet, in an alleged Scot? Hell yes, it's exactly what I'd expect. Although he seems more English to me. ;-) Offworld's case may be a little different though. He was a competitive swimmer for several years. I was too, and I can tell you 80 laps at a comfortable pace at any stroke is easier than all the sprinting you do during district or state trials. 80 laps is probably a warm up for him, a way to wake up. Swim team? Interesting, but hardly convincing in terms of dosha. You can't be an off world being and be of this earth silly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: I don't even know if I'd be eligible for a flu shot. There's a shortage, and I don't think I'm in a high risk category. 59 yrs. old. Not pregnant. No, you probably won't be able to get a swine flu shot with the first batches they release. But later on there'll be more available, quite possibly for those not in high- risk groups. And you should get the seasonal flu shot, of which there'll be plenty. Why should Rick bother with the seasonal shot if he rarely if ever gets the flu? People who meditate should be able to recognize the early invasion of a virus in the body. Way earlier than a non-meditating person would. If you have a still mind then it is easy. That's one of the things we learned meditation for. As soon as you notice it there are a number of things one can do. Even MAPI has some flu recommendations on their site. And for the ayurvedic challenged, flu usually occurs when one has a kapha imbalance and because of the excess mucus the virus has a lot goo to play around in. Dry up the goo and see what happens. BTW, that is how many cold medicines work is to dry you out. That's what pseudo-ephedrine does which now the government makes you register if you want some tablets with it in it. Of course you can grow the herb ephedra in your garden. It grows wild all over the US. Your kitchen cabinet contains many cold and flu relief items already. I highly recommend Vasant Lad's The Complete Book of Ayurvedic Home Remedies to learn what those are. The point about everyone getting a flu shot is that it protects everyone's health, not just yours. I hope this discussion will help people make a choice for the greater good. If you're in favor of a single payer system health care, it means you're interested in health care for all. Getting a flu shot would just be a practical demonstration that your political values match your ethics. Your best protection for yourself and others is to wash your hands frequently, if you sneeze, cover your mouth in the crook of your elbow, stay home if you feel sick, and get a flu shot. Ayurvedic Remedies may help strengthening your immune system, but we still don't know how much the H1N1 virus will mutate, or how virulent by the time flu season hits or how resistant even the most hardy of us will be.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Republican Agenda'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nelsonriddle2001 nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Um, there is no anti second amendment majority in Washington. The president,Pelosi, Fienstien, Shumer, Holder, Clinton, The recent supreme court pick--cant think of the rest now and, I believe, no second amendment proponent will be appointed for anything in the present administration. These are people who FAVOR STRICTER GUN CONTROL, not who oppose the Second Amendment. Two different things. snip,, Most of these people favor a total ban which I would think would qualify as anti second amendment. I guess we will find out soon enough and, I hope you are right.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Denied, to Invincible America
Thanks Hugo, thoughtful response. These are all parts of it. I do wish them well and hope for the best for them. The TMmovement won't come to an end any time soon or move away from Fairfield tomorrow. Nor is the larger meditating community of Fairfield going anywhere soon. Yet the TMovement evidently is in a chronic defense mode from its own scorched -earth policy and guidelines which date back some years. They've behaved badly some. They have made their own kind of trouble in their way of being. Kind of isolated now in the market place and from a lot of their meditating community otherwise with their own kind of spiritual arrogance. All in all, FF is still extremely vital as a spiritual place to be in. Is Fairfieldlife. Is a pretty special place that way. -Doug in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Folks saying good-bye. The last few days I learned that five long-time friends are leaving Fairfield now. From different circles. Long-time meditators. From different parts of the meditating community. Used to be folks figured how to come to FF to be in the domes for group meditation . The sacrifice and excitment was about being in the domes meditating in group. Seems lot of you writing here don't seem to live close to Fairfield. Some kind of interest in Fairfieldlife but not living here in FF. Not being here you may not see the complexion of the meditating community in FF. Fact is there are a lot more FF meditators in town outside of the domes than inside the domes. With people out and dome numbers chronically down, that gathering impetus is less. Has been for some while. Too many turned out who are here as meditators is a number that does eats at the dome community. An administrative problem evidently that is the status quo. I can see why you'd be annoyed at the TMO screwing up the running of the domes and people leaving town because of it, but you do have to see the TMOs side of it, they are a fundamentalist religious sect and like all religions they do practise a No other God but me approach to their gatherings. And you can see why, if people go about saying that such and such Guru is just as good as Marshy then people might start asking questions like Could I be doing better with my choice of meditation? and they don't want that! The trouble is the TMO insists that it's a secular group and the stuff about doing puja to Hindu Gods is really just enlivening aspects of the laws of nature. People are genuinely fooled by that and actually act as though they aren't religious despite the fact they do yoga and meditation for hours every day, follow a prescribed diet and even say grace before every meal! That's not even getting into the weird belief system (and it is weird, you may just be so used to it you've forgotten how the rest of the world is - easily done in a closed group). Finding out that their are some serious control freak issues at the heart of the TMO comes as a shock to most and drives most people away, I don't know many without some sort of horror story about bad management. If they were straight with you from the start would there be all this trouble? But help is at hand. I sense you are concerned with the effect on collective consciousness and that the people currently being refused dome entry are going to have some sort of negative impact on world affairs. Regardless of whether the Maharishi Effect even exists (I think not - but then I always argue according to evidence and not what I'm told to think) the greater amount of people doing prog outside the domes will make up for the fewer people inside the domes. If it's a field effect (as claimed) then there must be 4000 doing prog and adding their effect (if any) to the official number. I think Hagelin and the boys at MUM should take the numbers of ALL people doing the siddhis in FF and add that to their calculations. Of course, they'd then have to explain why it STILL isn't having any effect ;-) Trouble in FF, http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html Trouble in FF. Well, evidently meditator FF folk recently re-registering are being asked at registration if they have 'seen' other saints. Responding 'yes', these TM meditators are denied re-registration on the spot. Raja John Hagelin is aware of this? Its consequent in the meditating community just by word of mouth on the numbers of people who could be doing program in the domes? Does Hagelin know? Would seem like Hagelin is getting stabbed in the back by his dogmatic doctrinal types within TMmovement administration. Must be mighty frustrating in there for Hagelin while his dome
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Republican Agenda'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nelsonriddle2001 nelsonriddle2...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nelsonriddle2001 nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Um, there is no anti second amendment majority in Washington. The president,Pelosi, Fienstien, Shumer, Holder, Clinton, The recent supreme court pick--cant think of the rest now and, I believe, no second amendment proponent will be appointed for anything in the present administration. These are people who FAVOR STRICTER GUN CONTROL, not who oppose the Second Amendment. Two different things. snip,, Most of these people favor a total ban No, they don't. Somebody's feeding you a line of bullsh*t. which I would think would qualify as anti second amendment. I guess we will find out soon enough and, I hope you are right.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: I don't even know if I'd be eligible for a flu shot. There's a shortage, and I don't think I'm in a high risk category. 59 yrs. old. Not pregnant. No, you probably won't be able to get a swine flu shot with the first batches they release. But later on there'll be more available, quite possibly for those not in high- risk groups. And you should get the seasonal flu shot, of which there'll be plenty. Why should Rick bother with the seasonal shot if he rarely if ever gets the flu? Because having gotten it rarely if ever in the past says NOTHING about whether you'll get it in the future. It's like saying, I've never had an auto accident, so why should I bother with a seat belt? The whole thing with the flu virus is that it keeps *changing* every year--that's why they have new shots every year, because the previous ones don't give you immunity to the most recent virus. It's especially important not to get the seasonal flu this year because we'll have a double dose of flu virus, so a lot more people are going to get sick. This is going to strain health care resources, hospitals and doctors and clinics and emergency rooms. Anything we can do to *minimize* that number will be to the good. People who meditate should be able to recognize the early invasion of a virus in the body. Way earlier than a non-meditating person would. If you have a still mind then it is easy. That's one of the things we learned meditation for. I'm sorry, but this is utterly irrelevant as a basis for not getting a flu shot, seasonal or swine type. The point is NOT TO GET INVADED IN THE FIRST PLACE. As soon as you notice it there are a number of things one can do. Even MAPI has some flu recommendations on their site. And for the ayurvedic challenged, flu usually occurs when one has a kapha imbalance and because of the excess mucus the virus has a lot goo to play around in. Dry up the goo and see what happens. BTW, that is how many cold medicines work is to dry you out. Sorry, Bhairitu, but you're as ignorant of medical facts as the town-hall shouters are about health reform. Drying up your secretions is *not* going to prevent you from getting the flu. In fact, it may make you more vulnerable. And of course once you've noticed it, via woo-woo or because you start to feel lousy, it means you've been spreading the virus around already for several days. Sure, there are lots of things you can do to make yourself feel somewhat better once you've come down with it, but the point is NOT TO GET IT IN THE FIRST PLACE IF YOU CAN POSSIBLY HELP IT. Once you've been infected--which will very likely be well before you notice--you'll be shedding the virus throughout the illness and for up to a week after all your symptoms have disappeared. Look up HERD IMMUNITY, please. BTW, drying up your secretions is not a good way to deal with an ordinary cold. The best way is to *push fluids*, especially *warm* fluids, to dilute the secretions so they'll drain more easily, and because the cold virus doesn't like higher temperatures. More nonsense prattling from the old bitty from New Jersey. Whose ego is so important her head is about to burst just like in the movie Scanners. :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: authfriend wrote: snip Sure, there are lots of things you can do to make yourself feel somewhat better once you've come down with it, but the point is NOT TO GET IT IN THE FIRST PLACE IF YOU CAN POSSIBLY HELP IT. Once you've been infected--which will very likely be well before you notice--you'll be shedding the virus throughout the illness and for up to a week after all your symptoms have disappeared. Look up HERD IMMUNITY, please. BTW, drying up your secretions is not a good way to deal with an ordinary cold. The best way is to *push fluids*, especially *warm* fluids, to dilute the secretions so they'll drain more easily, and because the cold virus doesn't like higher temperatures. More nonsense prattling from the old bitty from New Jersey. Whose ego is so important her head is about to burst just like in the movie Scanners. :-D Translation: Bhairitu's ego got trampled by a bunch of solid medical knowledge he can't refute. So he resorts to insults--just like the town-hall shouters.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: I don't even know if I'd be eligible for a flu shot. There's a shortage, and I don't think I'm in a high risk category. 59 yrs. old. Not pregnant. No, you probably won't be able to get a swine flu shot with the first batches they release. But later on there'll be more available, quite possibly for those not in high- risk groups. And you should get the seasonal flu shot, of which there'll be plenty. Why should Rick bother with the seasonal shot if he rarely if ever gets the flu? People who meditate should be able to recognize the early invasion of a virus in the body. Way earlier than a non-meditating person would. If you have a still mind then it is easy. That's one of the things we learned meditation for. As soon as you notice it there are a number of things one can do. Even MAPI has some flu recommendations on their site. And for the ayurvedic challenged, flu usually occurs when one has a kapha imbalance and because of the excess mucus the virus has a lot goo to play around in. Dry up the goo and see what happens. BTW, that is how many cold medicines work is to dry you out. That's what pseudo-ephedrine does which now the government makes you register if you want some tablets with it in it. Of course you can grow the herb ephedra in your garden. It grows wild all over the US. Your kitchen cabinet contains many cold and flu relief items already. I highly recommend Vasant Lad's The Complete Book of Ayurvedic Home Remedies to learn what those are. The point about everyone getting a flu shot is that it protects everyone's health, not just yours. I hope this discussion will help people make a choice for the greater good. If you're in favor of a single payer system health care, it means you're interested in health care for all. Getting a flu shot would just be a practical demonstration that your political values match your ethics. What a load of bull! So now if we're going to be a progressive we have to prove by taking a shot that might make us ill, might even kill us? Give me a break. You're being so superficial you give progressives a bad name! Before I'd take any shot I would want a full listing of what is in it. Your best protection for yourself and others is to wash your hands frequently, if you sneeze, cover your mouth in the crook of your elbow, stay home if you feel sick, and get a flu shot. Ayurvedic Remedies may help strengthening your immune system, but we still don't know how much the H1N1 virus will mutate, or how virulent by the time flu season hits or how resistant even the most hardy of us will be. Ayurvedic remedies can do more than just strengthen immune system. There are ways of killing off bugs and viruses with it. How that works is beyond the scope of this discussion group.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Should you be forced to get the Swine Flu Vaccination?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: The point about everyone getting a flu shot is that it protects everyone's health, not just yours. I hope this discussion will help people make a choice for the greater good. If you're in favor of a single payer system health care, it means you're interested in health care for all. Getting a flu shot would just be a practical demonstration that your political values match your ethics. What a load of bull! So now if we're going to be a progressive we have to prove by taking a shot that might make us ill, might even kill us? Give me a break. You're being so superficial you give progressives a bad name! Before I'd take any shot I would want a full listing of what is in it. Progressives supposedly care about other people. Refusing to get a flu shot proves you're a Republican. Come on, take one for the team. Judy's cybug fact checker is getting to you. Relax. I'm sure you can find out exactly what's in a flu shot on the internet and you'll still think it's going to kill you no matter how much you know about it. Your best protection for yourself and others is to wash your hands frequently, if you sneeze, cover your mouth in the crook of your elbow, stay home if you feel sick, and get a flu shot. Ayurvedic Remedies may help strengthening your immune system, but we still don't know how much the H1N1 virus will mutate, or how virulent by the time flu season hits or how resistant even the most hardy of us will be. Ayurvedic remedies can do more than just strengthen immune system. There are ways of killing off bugs and viruses with it. How that works is beyond the scope of this discussion group. Do tell.
[FairfieldLife] What does this mean for the world???
What does this mean for the world??? The mind boggles. The 5th largest bank in the world is The Bank of China. Its second largest shareholder, after the Chinese government, is The Royal Bank of Scotland Group, which is the largest company in the world by assets. The RBS Group owns Citizens Financial Group, the 8th largest bank in the USA, as well as National Westminster Bank; Ulster Bank among others. The Royal Bank of Scotland Group is now 70% owned by the UK Government. The mind boggles. OffWorld
