[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Why We Can't Legalize Marijuana!..'

2009-09-21 Thread John
It's costing more money now to enforce the law prohibiting the use of 
marijuana.  It is also adding more costs to keep convicted marijuana 
traffickers in jail.  Specifically, California's jail system is now overcrowded.

Something has to give, since the economy is now very slow and many states, like 
California, are operating on a deficit.  The electorate may be more receptive 
to legalizing marijuana and releasing prisoners with nonviolent crimes.











--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert  wrote:
>
> ‘Why We Can’t Legalize Marijuana!’
> 
> Because marijuana, has known healing powers...
> There are many, whose agenda, is to keep it illegal...
> 
> Marijuana, is a more natural remedy, 
> And so the drug company’s want the satus quo laws, in place...
> The booze companies, would also lose sales, to the much safer, marijana...
> The synthetic fiber producers, would lose money to hemp cloth and paper...
> 
> Also, because of the spiritual sacrament, in some circles,
> Which marijuana, ‘opens the door to higher perceptions’...
> Remember, there was no violence at ‘Woodstock’...
> 
> People who want to use propaganda and fear tactics, 
> Don’t want marijuana legalized!
> They enjoy, how easily, the drunk masses are hypnotized by their 
> fear-mongering...
> 
> Marijuana is a spiritual sacrament, in some quarters...
> Marijuana is associated with the aspect of ‘Shiva’ in India...
> Meaning that it enlivens the aspect of awareness,  
> Which the ‘Corporated Controllers’...feel threatened by...
> People who smoke pot, don’t stay dumb, and stupid, 
> Which is of course a threat to our ‘Corporate Masters’...
> 
> Also, besides being associated with spiritual awareness...
> Marijuana, is known to produce beautiful blissful experiences, 
> As well as sensual and sexual enhancement...
> To much competition for the Corporates, here, for sure!
> 
> So, in conclusion, these are the good and just reasons, 
> Why marijuana in the good old USA... 
> Just isn't a good fit...
> 
> 
> Forget, all of South America, is trying to do something,
> Oh, I forgot, the CIA, makes more money the way things be now!
> By, keeping the status quo, in place...
> 
> El, Stupido!
> 
> Roberto G
>




[FairfieldLife] 'Why We Can't Legalize Marijuana!..'

2009-09-21 Thread Robert
‘Why We Can’t Legalize Marijuana!’

Because marijuana, has known healing powers...
There are many, whose agenda, is to keep it illegal...

Marijuana, is a more natural remedy, 
And so the drug company’s want the satus quo laws, in place...
The booze companies, would also lose sales, to the much safer, marijana...
The synthetic fiber producers, would lose money to hemp cloth and paper...

Also, because of the spiritual sacrament, in some circles,
Which marijuana, ‘opens the door to higher perceptions’...
Remember, there was no violence at ‘Woodstock’...

People who want to use propaganda and fear tactics, 
Don’t want marijuana legalized!
They enjoy, how easily, the drunk masses are hypnotized by their 
fear-mongering...

Marijuana is a spiritual sacrament, in some quarters...
Marijuana is associated with the aspect of ‘Shiva’ in India...
Meaning that it enlivens the aspect of awareness,  
Which the ‘Corporated Controllers’...feel threatened by...
People who smoke pot, don’t stay dumb, and stupid, 
Which is of course a threat to our ‘Corporate Masters’...

Also, besides being associated with spiritual awareness...
Marijuana, is known to produce beautiful blissful experiences, 
As well as sensual and sexual enhancement...
To much competition for the Corporates, here, for sure!

So, in conclusion, these are the good and just reasons, 
Why marijuana in the good old USA... 
Just isn't a good fit...


Forget, all of South America, is trying to do something,
Oh, I forgot, the CIA, makes more money the way things be now!
By, keeping the status quo, in place...

El, Stupido!

Roberto G 




  

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Jeru - Please pass this on to anyone you think knows him!!!

2009-09-21 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> Now, how about the addresses of Jeru's victims?  Aren't they more deserving 
> of your and my largess than the perp?
>

*

People can change -- one of the most famous saints in India is Valmiki, who 
used to be a bandit:

http://www.iloveindia.com/spirituality/gurus/valmiki.html



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Jeru - Please pass this on to anyone you think knows him!!!

2009-09-21 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Sep 21, 2009, at 11:35 PM, ShempMcGurk wrote:


I am sure he would LOVE to hear from you.

Love,
Debra



And hugs and kisses to you, too, Debra.

Now, how about the addresses of Jeru's victims?  Aren't they more  
deserving of your and my largess than the perp?


My favorite part, in addition to the above:

Dear Friends of Jeru (and if you're getting this and you're not a  
friend of Jeru, you might want to become one!!)


Yeah, where do I sign up?

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Jeru - Please pass this on to anyone you think knows him!!!

2009-09-21 Thread ShempMcGurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: Debra   Poneman 
> To: Debra   Poneman 
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 6:22 PM
> Subject: Jeru - Please pass this on to anyone you think knows him!!!
>  
> p.s. I just tried to send him some books on Amazon and they wouldn't accept
> the address I had sent you initially.  I went on the federal prisons website
> and they had this address:
> 
> Je-Ru Hall REG # 139-19-016
> FPC YANKTON
> PO Box 700
> Yankton, SD 57078
> 
> ...I tried it and it worked!  Sorry for the confusion and thanks for all
> your replies.  Maybe we should spread out our book sends over the next few
> weeks so prison people don't get up-tight that he's getting too 
> many things!!!
> 
> Dear Friends of Jeru (and if you're getting this and you're not a friend of
> Jeru, you might want to become one!!),
> 
> According to Jivan, Jeru had been moved around a lot.  Now it seems he is
> finally in one place.  So I just thought that he probably would really
> appreciate it if we sent him letters and books or magazines.  According to
> another friend who was in jail in Illinois, there's no reading material
> unless someone sends it to you.
> 
> THIS IS IMPORTANT:  He is not able to receive any other types of packages.
> Only letters.  He can receive books or magazines only if they are ordered
> directly from a reputable source (like Amazon or Barnes and Noble) and sent
> directly from the company to him (don't do the "New and Used from only."
> because then the mailing label will not say Amazon).  Any books sent from an
> individual or from any source other than a main distributor will be
> rejected.
> 
> Je-Ru Hall REG # 139-19-016
> Federal Prison Camp
> P.M.B 700
> Yankton, SD 57078
> 
> And if anyone is heading west, he is only a 5 or 6 hour drive from FF in
> Yankton, South Dakota.
> 
> I am sure he would LOVE to hear from you.  
> 
> Love,
> Debra
>

And hugs and kisses to you, too, Debra.

Now, how about the addresses of Jeru's victims?  Aren't they more deserving of 
your and my largess than the perp?



[FairfieldLife] [Who Stand’s Up to the Banks and Insurance Co.’s’]

2009-09-21 Thread Robert
I wonder who?..
~Me or ~You?
 
Certainly not the United States Congress,
Nor the President...
Perhaps the Supremo's? 
Naw!
They elected Bush, in 2000...
’member?
So, I guess if you haven’t gotten your’s yet...
You’re basically screwed...
Now, you didn’t hear that on TV, did you?
Guess why not?
Well, could be because they are own by the same bastards...
They love to have control over ‘Everything, imaginable’...
Don’t stand in their way, because they’ll send you to Rome...
To entertain the Republicans, and all the rest, of the animals...
They say who lives and who dies...
Yeah, that’s them...
They just love that ‘Power’...
Makes ‘em feel, real special...
Now, isn’t that special?
Roberto Gimbel Madison, WI


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Jeru - Please pass this on to anyone you think knows him!!!

2009-09-21 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Sep 21, 2009, at 11:05 PM, bob_brigante wrote:

And if anyone is heading west, he is only a 5 or 6 hour drive from  
FF in

Yankton, South Dakota.

I am sure he would LOVE to hear from you.

Love,
Debra



*

I'm sorry for anybody who's locked up, but at least Hall will be  
released in April 2013 -- I really feel sorry for this dude:


http://snipurl.com/s1b2j  [www_bop_gov]


Holy crap--me too!  2754??
Something tells me he won't be
getting paroled any time soon.

Jeru's place doesn't look half bad, really--
kind of reminds me of the FF courthouse.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan steps down as MUM Chairman

2009-09-21 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  wrote:
> >
> > MUM Development Office notice: Bevan held the top position for 31 years as 
> > Chairman of the Board of Trustees of MUM.  Now, Dr. J Abramson is taking 
> > his place.
> >
> 
> Trustee, President, Prime Minister, Chancellor.
> Prime witness.
> 
> Now this is a development.  One big fish and large weight removed.  
> Will make an insightful read to see those minutes of the Raja meetings on 
> this one.  Hopefully the minutes will get posted soon.
> 
> 31 years presiding over the long decline?  
> 
> Is some fantastic and moving news for the university community. Fabulous 
> development for the TMmovement.
> 
> Jai Adi Shankara,
> 
> -D in FF
>

*

Bevan continues to be President of MUM (and Prime Minister of the Global 
Country), he just is not Chairman of the Board of Trustees anymore. If they 
were really unhappy with Bevan, he would not have his other posts either.



[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Jeru - Please pass this on to anyone you think knows him!!!

2009-09-21 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: Debra   Poneman 
> To: Debra   Poneman 
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 6:22 PM
> Subject: Jeru - Please pass this on to anyone you think knows him!!!
>  
> p.s. I just tried to send him some books on Amazon and they wouldn't accept
> the address I had sent you initially.  I went on the federal prisons website
> and they had this address:
> 
> Je-Ru Hall REG # 139-19-016
> FPC YANKTON
> PO Box 700
> Yankton, SD 57078
> 
> ...I tried it and it worked!  Sorry for the confusion and thanks for all
> your replies.  Maybe we should spread out our book sends over the next few
> weeks so prison people don't get up-tight that he's getting too 
> many things!!!
> 
> Dear Friends of Jeru (and if you're getting this and you're not a friend of
> Jeru, you might want to become one!!),
> 
> According to Jivan, Jeru had been moved around a lot.  Now it seems he is
> finally in one place.  So I just thought that he probably would really
> appreciate it if we sent him letters and books or magazines.  According to
> another friend who was in jail in Illinois, there's no reading material
> unless someone sends it to you.
> 
> THIS IS IMPORTANT:  He is not able to receive any other types of packages.
> Only letters.  He can receive books or magazines only if they are ordered
> directly from a reputable source (like Amazon or Barnes and Noble) and sent
> directly from the company to him (don't do the "New and Used from only."
> because then the mailing label will not say Amazon).  Any books sent from an
> individual or from any source other than a main distributor will be
> rejected.
> 
> Je-Ru Hall REG # 139-19-016
> Federal Prison Camp
> P.M.B 700
> Yankton, SD 57078
> 
> And if anyone is heading west, he is only a 5 or 6 hour drive from FF in
> Yankton, South Dakota.
> 
> I am sure he would LOVE to hear from you.  
> 
> Love,
> Debra
>

*

I'm sorry for anybody who's locked up, but at least Hall will be released in 
April 2013 -- I really feel sorry for this dude:

http://snipurl.com/s1b2j  [www_bop_gov] 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan steps down as MUM Chairman

2009-09-21 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  wrote:
>
> MUM Development Office notice: Bevan held the top position for 31 years as 
> Chairman of the Board of Trustees of MUM.  Now, Dr. J Abramson is taking his 
> place.
>

Trustee, President, Prime Minister, Chancellor.
Prime witness.

Now this is a development.  One big fish and large weight removed.  
Will make an insightful read to see those minutes of the Raja meetings on this 
one.  Hopefully the minutes will get posted soon.

31 years presiding over the long decline?  

Is some fantastic and moving news for the university community. Fabulous 
development for the TMmovement.

Jai Adi Shankara,

-D in FF  



[FairfieldLife] FW: Jeru - Please pass this on to anyone you think knows him!!!

2009-09-21 Thread Rick Archer
- Original Message - 
From: Debra   Poneman 
To: Debra   Poneman 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 6:22 PM
Subject: Jeru - Please pass this on to anyone you think knows him!!!
 
p.s. I just tried to send him some books on Amazon and they wouldn't accept
the address I had sent you initially.  I went on the federal prisons website
and they had this address:

Je-Ru Hall REG # 139-19-016
FPC YANKTON
PO Box 700
Yankton, SD 57078

...I tried it and it worked!  Sorry for the confusion and thanks for all
your replies.  Maybe we should spread out our book sends over the next few
weeks so prison people don't get up-tight that he's getting too 
many things!!!

Dear Friends of Jeru (and if you're getting this and you're not a friend of
Jeru, you might want to become one!!),

According to Jivan, Jeru had been moved around a lot.  Now it seems he is
finally in one place.  So I just thought that he probably would really
appreciate it if we sent him letters and books or magazines.  According to
another friend who was in jail in Illinois, there's no reading material
unless someone sends it to you.

THIS IS IMPORTANT:  He is not able to receive any other types of packages.
Only letters.  He can receive books or magazines only if they are ordered
directly from a reputable source (like Amazon or Barnes and Noble) and sent
directly from the company to him (don't do the "New and Used from only."
because then the mailing label will not say Amazon).  Any books sent from an
individual or from any source other than a main distributor will be
rejected.

Je-Ru Hall REG # 139-19-016
Federal Prison Camp
P.M.B 700
Yankton, SD 57078

And if anyone is heading west, he is only a 5 or 6 hour drive from FF in
Yankton, South Dakota.

I am sure he would LOVE to hear from you.  

Love,
Debra 
 


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[FairfieldLife] Why Almost All Astrologers Are Failures........And What We Can Do About It

2009-09-21 Thread Bharat Maurya
Namaskar,
Parasara states in his Magnum Opus, "Brihat
Parasara Hora Shastra", that prediction is difficult even for a
sage. What to say of ordinary mortals like us then? I would venture
to say that the great majority of astrologers, even the so called
"legends" in this business, have not thoroughly perused his
great tome- and quite frankly, do not have the intellect or
perseverance to understand it much less apply it's vast techniques.
If I may ask a few questions to my
esteemed readers, both astrologers and clients : Did your astrologer
even mention Gulika or Yama Ghantaka to you, did you think
he at least made use of them? Do you even know what they
are? Did your astrologer use Kalachakra Dasha "KCD" (A
highly refined timing system)? Did you know that Parasara speaks most
highly of KCD
and not the over-used and over-fitted Vimshottari Dasha? Does your
astrologer know to rectify your birth time with the supremely
time-sensitive KCD? Did he even bother to rectify your time of birth
at all? A proper birth-time is CRITICAL to all predictions! Did your astrologer 
use any conditional dashas?- is Sun in
your first house? - then surely he must have used Shashti Hayani
dasha- or maybe not. Did he use transits and the Sudarshana Chakra to
really fine tune his timing for you? I willing to bet the most will
answer the above questions in the negative- and now you have a
teeny-tiny glimpse of why you didn't get the results you were seeking.
If you have a moment please read the
following message if you are interested in Vedic Astrology but want to either 
learn or contribute to how it can
give all you far more consistent and concrete answers. This is NOT a sales 
pitch of any type.
 
It is my genuine supposition
that the overwhelming majority of astrologers fail in their
analysis and that this failure is attributable to two primary reasons.
Of course, we must define failure first. Failure can be defined
as the inability to consistently and accurately assess a
given querent's strengths, weaknesses and personality. Failure
also includes the persistent inability to accurately time
the querent's major life events- too many astrologers
indulge in giving beautiful explanations of  past events but
are utterly incapable of looking into the future. Conversely, one may
ask, what is success? I define success, in the astrological realm, as
an accuracy rate (dealing with major issues) some where in the 65% to
75% vicinity. Anybody claiming substantially higher, especially on a
long-term basis, is a liar or a sage.
 
The first reason
is largely but not completely out of the astrologer's control. The
second far more important reason is largely under the
astrologer's control but is greatly limited by his skill,
intelligence and diligence. Astrology, at it's core, deals with
probabilities- some events can be forecasted with greater accuracy
than others and some simply cannot be seen at all-querents need to be
made aware of this. As we all know, a single natal chart is
embedded with a mind-boggling array of details,
astrologers must be able to parse out the major relevant issues
and  holistically synthesize them; though like most things worth
doing, easier said than done. I don't know if astrology is a science,
it seems more like an art. I don't know if astrology is perfect as
many loudly proclaim, perfection seems impossible in this world.
Nevertheless, as many here would agree, astrology can be quite
useful. I would now like to ask you all a very serious question.

How
many of you have had sub-par reading from your astrologer? I would
venture to say that many of you have had less than satisfying
experiences. Almost all astrologers over-promise, over-charge and
under-perform. Let me bluntly ask, can anybody off
the street become a surgeon? The barriers of entry into medicine
are quite high but the barriers of entry into astrology are
simply non-existent. Too many astrologers, even well known ones,
provide shabby analysis in order to make a quick 200 dollars an hour
or whatever outlandish fee they charge for such mediocrity.

Just
so
readers know my vantage point. I have been to many astrologers in
search of the best, too many to count in fact. I have been to the
legends, to complete unknowns, as well as everything in the middle. I
can safely say that out of the many I encountered, including a few
with a presence on internet boards, I was only impressed with three to
four at most! In order to counter the widespread ignorance of proper
astrological techniques in this Kali Yuga we have formed a small but
dedicated astrology research and application group.



Please click on the following link and
apply for free membership in our newly formed group:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/revati_energetics_true_vedic_astrology/
 
 
Our  group deals with unearthing,
interpreting and applying the secrets contained in the BPHS. It will
also feature free lessons for beginners and intermediates. Though this
group mainly concerns advanced astrolog

[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE's Eyre Coach of the Year

2009-09-21 Thread John
No matter how you cut it, you still have to be physically fit to play and win 
in tennis.  It helps to play smart too.  That's why I liked Pete Sampras when 
he was playing.  His points were quick due to his serves and he won matches 
without apparent strain.

Andy Roddick has a tremedous serve but can't win the big tournaments.  It 
appears that he loses points when the rallies go longer.  So, his problems are 
more mental rather than physical.  He could benefit from TM.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  wrote:
>
> 
> "I am honored to receive this award on behalf of Maharishi
> School," said Mr. Eyre. "Maharishi School tennis players follow
> a new athletic paradigm," Coach Eyre explained. "Instead of 'no
> pain, no gain', our motto is `train without strain.' We invest
> in rest for tennis success."
> 
> http://www.heartlandconnection.com/sports/story.aspx?id=352829
> 
>




[FairfieldLife] MSAE's Eyre Coach of the Year

2009-09-21 Thread bob_brigante

"I am honored to receive this award on behalf of Maharishi
School," said Mr. Eyre. "Maharishi School tennis players follow
a new athletic paradigm," Coach Eyre explained. "Instead of 'no
pain, no gain', our motto is `train without strain.' We invest
in rest for tennis success."

http://www.heartlandconnection.com/sports/story.aspx?id=352829




[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

2009-09-21 Thread WillyTex
> > What was the name of that radical left-winger 
> > that married a Russian woman,and then murdered 
> > the President?
> >
mainstream wrote:
> "Patsy"
>
Right, a 'patsy' killed JFK, along with a second
person on the grassy knoll. Marina?

'Rule by Secrecy'
The Hidden History That Connects the Trilateral 
Commission, the Freemasons, and the Great Pyramids
By Jim Marrs
Harper, 2001
http://tinyurl.com/l7gqm3



[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

2009-09-21 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex"  wrote:
>
> John wrote:
> > Which one actually got murdered, Shremp?
> > 
> What was the name of that radical left-winger 
> that married a Russian woman,and then murdered 
> the President?
>
   "Patsy"



[FairfieldLife] Re: a sweet inspiring letter from the parents of a new MUM student

2009-09-21 Thread Dick Mays

Forwarded from an e-acquaintance:


wanted to share this touching letter (the parents said they were 
happy to have their letter shared publicly, but i removed their last 
name below for privacy)



~~
From a parent:


Dear President Morris,

My husband and I are thrilled to have the opportunity to write a 
heartfelt letter expressing our initial impressions regarding MUM! 
Our daughter Morgan transferred to MUM as a Junior from Franklin and 
Marshall College in Pennsylvania. Morgan was an academic scholarship 
student and on the Dean's List during her two years there but was 
disheartened on many levels with her experience . She discovered MUM 
on the internet, and was deeply touched by so many items addressed on 
your Web pages.


Morgan has now  been in Fairfield for one month and during this time 
we have heard nothing but praise from her as she describes her 
experiences. She loves TM and is fascinated with Maharishi's 
philosophy. She is happier, healthier, more energetic, enthusiastic, 
and excited about learning than we have ever seen her. She has great 
respect and admiration for her professors and "their thoughtful 
thorough beautifully presented lectures." She praises MUM's student 
body as "gifted, interesting, sensitive, as well as a lot of fun!" 
She also says, with a newly acquired clear strong tone to her voice, 
that your staff as been responsive and caring in so may ways 
regarding dorm life, your cafeteria and food service, as well as 
administrative functions.


Morgan's enthusiasm is contagious. My husband and I recently learned 
TM and we hope there will be opportunities for us to get involved in 
your program in the future.


We also are very excited about your future alternative medicine 
curriculum. Morgan plans to participate in the MD program when it is 
established. We see this as a brilliant and unique addition to the 
university programs.


We are very grateful that Morgan has such a fabulous opportunity and 
we wish you all continued success. We plan to be on campus in early 
October to visit Morgan and see the community.


Sincerely,

Mal and Is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Howard Dean confident bill with Public Option will pass

2009-09-21 Thread WillyTex
Judy wrote:
> Obama did a whole lot of wiggling, based on that 
> portion of the transcript (I didn't watch the 
> video), and Steph tried to make himself look tough 
> by quoting the dictionary definition of "tax," for 
> pete's sake. Utterly useless.
>
Don't you just hate that lying lawyer-talk?

"The consequence for not maintaining insurance would 
be an excise tax." 

Read more: 

Health bill says 'tax' when President Obama said 'not':
By Chris Frates and Mike Allen
Politico, September 21, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/ltcqmh

A proposed requirement that all Americans buy health 
insurance does in fact include a "tax" increase, 
according to the Senate -- even though President 
Obama insisted Sunday that it "absolutely" does not...

'Health Insurance Mandate Includes 'Tax' Despite Obama Denial'
Fox News, September 21, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/me5rha

America's Healthy Future Act of 2009:
http://tinyurl.com/kn7zj8



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Old TM'er in India

2009-09-21 Thread Bhairitu
nablusoss1008 wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>   
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"  wrote:
>> 
>>> ---Too late.  Kali is already loose in the world.  Besides, Shree Maa - a 
>>> foremost proponent of Kali worship, has been to Fairfield a number of times 
>>> and has implanted her vibes there.
>>>   
>
>
> I know this has been going on for a many years.
>
>   
>>>  There are no prior requirements as to "knowing what you are doing" for 
>>> Kali worship.  Just get right into it.
>>>   
>
> Fool; you have no idea of what energies you are evoking ! Kali could take 
> your soul out of incarnation for millions of years if She wanted, or laying 
> Fairfield in ashes in a second.
>
>   (that's the advice of Shree Ma).
>
> Sure, and how does "shree ma" know Kali, eh ? Did you ask her that simple 
> question ?
>   

Not only does Shree Maa know Kali, a very definitive Kali Puja book was 
published by her organization.   I use it for reference though tantric 
don't have to do that very long puja.  It is for the public.
http://www.shreemaa.org/drupal/node/404
Scroll a little over half the page down.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

2009-09-21 Thread WillyTex
John wrote:
> Which one actually got murdered, Shremp?
> 
What was the name of that radical left-winger 
that married a Russian woman,and then murdered 
the President?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

2009-09-21 Thread WillyTex
Judy Stein wrote:
> I haven't read the book and don't have an 
> opinion one way or the other...
>
'Crossfire: The Plot That Killed Kennedy'
By Jim Marrs
Basic Books, 1993
http://tinyurl.com/noxnqv




Re: [FairfieldLife] My experience with Gurus

2009-09-21 Thread Bhairitu
yifuxero wrote:
> While I respect the notion that one should stick with a proven Guru; being a 
> naturally suspicious person (a trait which has been very useful since it's 
> protected me from drinking the Cool Aid);...my assessment of most Gurus is 
> that while most are specialists in certain areas, their lack of knowledge in 
> other areas prevents them from being a "one-stop shop" for all the goodies.

Actually in my tradition and a some others the guru does NOT claim to be 
an expert in all things.  If you asked my guru about ayurveda he would 
tell you to go learn from ayurvedic experts.  He has his expertise in 
the techniques of his tradition.  He does NOT believe in putting his 
brand on a teaching adopted from another teacher.  And part of his 
teaching IS visiting other gurus and questioning them to get an idea of 
what they know and if their tradition is real or a fraud.

That said his guru has a bit of a broader background and can speak on 
jyotish and ayurveda.   But those were subjects he taught my guru.




[FairfieldLife] Re: My experience with Gurus

2009-09-21 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"  wrote:
>
 I'm assuming they aren't true Buddhists, only pretenders.

Correct. Vaj and the Turq from this list comes to mind.



[FairfieldLife] Fear of socialism

2009-09-21 Thread do.rflex





  [Free Porn]




[FairfieldLife] Re: My experience with Gurus

2009-09-21 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"  wrote:
>
> While I respect the notion that one should stick with a proven Guru; being a 
> naturally suspicious person (a trait which has been very useful since it's 
> protected me from drinking the Cool Aid);...my assessment of most Gurus is 
> that while most are specialists in certain areas, their lack of knowledge in 
> other areas prevents them from being a "one-stop shop" for all the goodies.
>  Of course, it's quite possible that certain Tantric Gurus could have all of 
> the goods: mantras, Shakti, devotion to the Gods; a provision for progress 
> made in the relative sphere of existence; and of course a clear pathway from 
> complete ignorance through Enlightenment.

Did you ever meet Maharishi ? 



[FairfieldLife] My experience with Gurus

2009-09-21 Thread yifuxero
While I respect the notion that one should stick with a proven Guru; being a 
naturally suspicious person (a trait which has been very useful since it's 
protected me from drinking the Cool Aid);...my assessment of most Gurus is that 
while most are specialists in certain areas, their lack of knowledge in other 
areas prevents them from being a "one-stop shop" for all the goodies.
 Of course, it's quite possible that certain Tantric Gurus could have all of 
the goods: mantras, Shakti, devotion to the Gods; a provision for progress made 
in the relative sphere of existence; and of course a clear pathway from 
complete ignorance through Enlightenment.
  Take MMY.  I was very suspicious of him from the very beginning of my 
contacts with him, 1970; and these suspicious were born out while working at 
SIMS.  I began to see various evidences of dishonesty in the way things were 
being run; and I eventually got fired for voicing my objections to some of the 
foul practices. (...which turned out to be a good thing, I hold no grudges to 
various former SIMS people).
 However, I do feel sorry for the people who have drunk the cool aid then years 
later come around to somehow belatedly "realize" that they have been conned.
 Thanks, Rick for mentioning that book "American Guru" about Andrew Cohen.  I 
sent away for it and even before seeing it, I wonder why the author stuck with 
such a twisted Guru for so many years before coming to the truth.
 While certain people may feel confidant with one Guru from start to finish, 
personally I've never met a Guru who has all the knowledge, so I partake of the 
wisdom of many.
  I stand corrected with you Nabby for implying that you are a fault-finder 
with "Buddhism"; as opposed to certain "Buddhists".  Actually if the persons in 
question were true "Buddhists", you probably wouldn
t fault them.  I'm assuming they aren't true Buddhists, only pretenders.  



[FairfieldLife] Re: actual human squishy bits

2009-09-21 Thread ShempMcGurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> >
> > A great term like that deserves its own thread.
> 
> That's fine. Just don't post any pics of said squishy bits or I will be 
> forced to dole out the harshness.
>


"Harshness"...is that a more gentler aspect of the old "ultra violence"?



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vile vegetable

2009-09-21 Thread Mike Dixon
Maybe the Indian artists that create the posters of Indian gods and goddesses 
could include that in future posters of Kali.





From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:56:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vile vegetable

  
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "Alex Stanley"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > In a bloody contest between swinging Mike Dixhead and 
> > Hillary's Virgina Dentata, Mike lost his pecker in a
> > juicer trying to squeeze a juicy troll from Hillary's
> > carrot penis. He rues the day he became obsessed with
> > mini carrot envy and Hillary's awesome Virgina Dentata.
> 
>  C'mon people, we've been through this before. The
> rule as it currently exists is:
> 
> 8) Posting of "adult" material, either text or photos, or
> links to such materials, is prohibited. Violation of this
> guideline may result in expulsion from the group.
> 
> That image, IMO, definitely qualifies as adult in nature,
> because even though the teeth are photoshopped in (at
> least, I certainly hope they are), it's still a picture
> of actual human squishy bits. The carrot pic doesn't
> count because, well, it's a picture of a carrot.

It's just as Nabby said. See what happens when you invite
Kali to Fairfield?





  

[FairfieldLife] Re: actual human squishy bits

2009-09-21 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>
> A great term like that deserves its own thread.

That's fine. Just don't post any pics of said squishy bits or I will be forced 
to dole out the harshness.



[FairfieldLife] Christina Aguilera and Andrea Bocelli

2009-09-21 Thread John
To All:

Here's a song for those who were naive enough to be in love.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIoPIBl_1Cg&NR=1



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Old TM'er in India

2009-09-21 Thread Bhairitu
nablusoss1008 wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>   
>> nablusoss1008 wrote:
>> 
>>> -
>>> Haha, what a pack of simpletons and fools doing Puja to Kali! 
>>>
>>> Even indian worshippers who have been Kali worshippers running in their 
>>> family for centuries are extremely cautious in approaching Her. 
>>>
>>> Do you have any idea whatsover what you are doing ? Does your socalled 
>>> "pujari", a first class amateur no doubt ? Does he or any of you have any 
>>> idea of what the conscequences might be ?
>>>
>>> If you invite Her into your life you will perhaps never know what hit you; 
>>> unless you are completely and fully established in Transcendence. Are you ?
>>>
>>> Fools are inviting Kali to come to Fairfield ! 
>>>
>>> Actually I was prepared for something like this to develop with all the 
>>> loose cannons on deck running around proclaiming "awakening" and what not.
>>>
>>> The rest of us can simply wait and watch to see what will happen in that 
>>> town.
>>>   
>> I do Kali worship all the time and I'm as stable as anyone here.  ;-)
>> 
>
>
> Who said that worshipping Kali would make you unstable ?
>   

I do and so do many in Kali traditions if you don't learn to do so properly.
> Simply don't invite Her into your life or community unless you really know 
> what you are doing.
>   

And that is what the guru is for.
> Some ignorants fellows, friends of Rich Archer basically, and obvious 
> ignorant "pujaris" invited Her to Fairfield. IF She accepted the invitation; 
> let's see what She does about it.

Make them enlightened?  The Kali tradition is the fast road to 
enlightenment.  But you have to have the guidance of guru of the 
tradition or you may go nuts.








[FairfieldLife] Re: What's Happening To Women's Happiness?

2009-09-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:

> But they're really nice people, and we became 
> friends, so I have had occasion to ask them where
> their "bankable" business -- that which keeps them
> *in* business -- comes from. I expected them to say
> "young people," in the 21-to-35 age range. They
> didn't, even in New Mexico, which would have you
> believe that the bulk of its considerable alcohol 
> problem were attributable to youth.
> 
> The "bankable" customers for any urban liquor store,
> as it turns out, are older women. My friends tell 
> me that they account for up to 40% of their entire 
> income.

Next time you're in a bar, you might want to ask
the barkeep who the "bankable" customers are for
that establishment.

I mean, it couldn't *possibly* be the case that
younger folks (and men of all ages) do most of their
drinking in bars rather than buying bottles from
liquor stores.

> Interestingly, especially in Santa Fe, the majority
> of these "bankable customers" never enter the store.
> They call on the phone and have case after case of
> liquor and wine delivered to their houses.
> 
> Perhaps "projection of one's own 'dark side'" is the 
> real reason that some old women are so quick to accuse 
> those they don't like of being drunks.

Sorry, no cigar. The "real reason" is that your posts
are so often incoherent and/or RELY RELY
STOOPID, like the one I'm responding to.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Type in Sanskrit

2009-09-21 Thread Bhairitu
I downloaded it and will give it a whirl.  But I'm wondering if they 
bothered to look around on the Internet.  Hindi Writer is a free program 
that I've used for several years and is very easy to use.  And you can 
use it for Sanskrit too (it's really a Devanagri writer).  Have they 
just re-invented the wheel?  ;-)

http://download.cnet.com/HindiWriter/3000-2279_4-10451513.html

Rick Archer wrote:
> >From a friend:
>  
> I wanted everyone to have an opportunity to see this today. Just in last
> week from Dr. Chris Boas, President of the Vedic Vidya Institute in
> California and head of the dept. of Sanskrit at Oxford. He wrote last week
> to let me know of a new programme that they have developed and are offering
> for free, that allows one to type in Sanskrit.  I have tried it and it is
> fantastic. And it's FREE!
>  
> Chris wrote:
>  
> I am not sure if you guys have heard, but the Vedic Vidya Institute, of
> which I am President, has released a new free software program, which allows
> you to type Devanagari and transliteration in Hindi and Sanksrit using MS
> Word or other standard word processor and emails programs.
>  
>   http://vedicvidya.org/downloads.html
>  
> Thought this might be interesting information to your networks.
>  
> Chris



[FairfieldLife] Re: Old TM'er in India

2009-09-21 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"  wrote:
> >
> > ---Too late.  Kali is already loose in the world.  Besides, Shree Maa - a 
> > foremost proponent of Kali worship, has been to Fairfield a number of times 
> > and has implanted her vibes there.


I know this has been going on for a many years.

> >  There are no prior requirements as to "knowing what you are doing" for 
> > Kali worship.  Just get right into it.

Fool; you have no idea of what energies you are evoking ! Kali could take your 
soul out of incarnation for millions of years if She wanted, or laying 
Fairfield in ashes in a second.

  (that's the advice of Shree Ma).

Sure, and how does "shree ma" know Kali, eh ? Did you ask her that simple 
question ?

 Start with Kali's mantra Om Aim Rheem Kleem Chamundayai Vichay (a phonetic 
rendition).  Consult with various sources to get the precise Sktthen chant 
away.

Idiot, you don't even know how to evoke Her. Not even knowing the basics how 
will you be protected from Her numerous attendents ?



[FairfieldLife] actual human squishy bits

2009-09-21 Thread ShempMcGurk
A great term like that deserves its own thread.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Old TM'er in India

2009-09-21 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"  wrote:
>
> ---Too late.  Kali is already loose in the world.  Besides, Shree Maa - a 
> foremost proponent of Kali worship, has been to Fairfield a number of times 
> and has implanted her vibes there.
>  There are no prior requirements as to "knowing what you are doing" for Kali 
> worship.  Just get right into it.  (that's the advice of Shree Ma). Start 
> with Kali's mantra Om Aim Rheem Kleem Chamundayai Vichay (a phonetic 
> rendition).  Consult with various sources to get the precise Sktthen 
> chant away.
>  I've been devoted to Kali for at least 25 years, no problems.  I work with 
> Her every day, especially asking her to use Her sword on the recently "dead".
>  Your criticisms of Buddhism are based on a false base of information.  
> Buddhism is likewise a perfectly benign religion. 


I've never critized Buddhism but socalled "Buddhists". 
Seems your peanut-brain won't be able to see the difference; you cannot even 
read, unfortunately.

Talking about delusional nutcases !



[FairfieldLife] Re: Vile vegetable

2009-09-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > In a bloody contest between swinging Mike Dixhead and 
> > Hillary's Virgina Dentata, Mike lost his pecker in a
> > juicer trying to squeeze a juicy troll from Hillary's
> > carrot penis.  He rues the day he became obsessed with
> > mini carrot envy and Hillary's awesome Virgina Dentata.
> 
>  C'mon people, we've been through this before. The
> rule as it currently exists is:
> 
> 8) Posting of "adult" material, either text or photos, or
> links to such materials, is prohibited. Violation of this
> guideline may result in expulsion from the group.
> 
> That image, IMO, definitely qualifies as adult in nature,
> because even though the teeth are photoshopped in (at
> least, I certainly hope they are), it's still a picture
> of actual human squishy bits. The carrot pic doesn't
> count because, well, it's a picture of a carrot.

It's just as Nabby said. See what happens when you invite
Kali to Fairfield?





[FairfieldLife] Re: What's Happening To Women's Happiness?

2009-09-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> But overall, the trajectory is consistent, and consistently 
> downhill. As you can see from the graph, by the time women 
> reach age forty-seven, they are, overall, less happy with 
> their life than men, and the trend continues on down from there.

This trend is borne out by friends of mine in 
Santa Fe who own liquor stores. 

Despite what many TM zealots have said about 
me, I really don't drink alcohol much. I enjoy
the taste of *good* wine or Scotch too much to
ever drink very much of it; to do so would erode
my tastebuds and destroy the very pleasure of 
the experience.

So my friends in the booze business know me as 
a guy who occasionally buys a good bottle of wine 
when I'm having friends over, or a great bottle 
of Scotch when I have to replace the one I bought 
six months ago. In other words, I'm a lightweight.

But they're really nice people, and we became 
friends, so I have had occasion to ask them where
their "bankable" business -- that which keeps them
*in* business -- comes from. I expected them to say
"young people," in the 21-to-35 age range. They
didn't, even in New Mexico, which would have you
believe that the bulk of its considerable alcohol 
problem were attributable to youth.

The "bankable" customers for any urban liquor store,
as it turns out, are older women. My friends tell 
me that they account for up to 40% of their entire 
income.

Interestingly, especially in Santa Fe, the majority
of these "bankable customers" never enter the store.
They call on the phone and have case after case of
liquor and wine delivered to their houses.

Perhaps "projection of one's own 'dark side'" is the 
real reason that some old women are so quick to accuse 
those they don't like of being drunks.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Old TM'er in India

2009-09-21 Thread yifuxero
---Too late.  Kali is already loose in the world.  Besides, Shree Maa - a 
foremost proponent of Kali worship, has been to Fairfield a number of times and 
has implanted her vibes there.
 There are no prior requirements as to "knowing what you are doing" for Kali 
worship.  Just get right into it.  (that's the advice of Shree Ma). Start with 
Kali's mantra Om Aim Rheem Kleem Chamundayai Vichay (a phonetic rendition).  
Consult with various sources to get the precise Sktthen chant away.
 I've been devoted to Kali for at least 25 years, no problems.  I work with Her 
every day, especially asking her to use Her sword on the recently "dead".
 Your criticisms of Buddhism are based on a false base of information.  
Buddhism is likewise a perfectly benign religion. If you don't like it, stay 
with the imaginary Maitreya and that delusional nutcase Benjamin Creme.

 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > nablusoss1008 wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  
> > > wrote:
> > >   
> > >> Visiting Saints
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >> "and happy Navaratri to you.  We had the major Kartika puja last night 
> > >> on the first night which is also Kali here instead of 3 days of Durga.  
> > >>
> > >> Incredibly powerful with twinkling lights all over, marigold garlands 
> > >> hanging straight from the ceiling of the kalari and whole yantra drawn 
> > >> on the kalari floor then lined with flowers. Girish, the main pujari did 
> > >> the honors and we chanted the 108 names, then 1000 names of Kali, Kali 
> > >> bhajans complete with small band, then the Kali song (Aiy Giri).  
> > >> 
> > >
> > >
> > > Haha, what a pack of simpletons and fools doing Puja to Kali! 
> > >
> > > Even indian worshippers who have been Kali worshippers running in their 
> > > family for centuries are extremely cautious in approaching Her. 
> > >
> > > Do you have any idea whatsover what you are doing ? Does your socalled 
> > > "pujari", a first class amateur no doubt ? Does he or any of you have any 
> > > idea of what the conscequences might be ?
> > >
> > > If you invite Her into your life you will perhaps never know what hit 
> > > you; unless you are completely and fully established in Transcendence. 
> > > Are you ?
> > >
> > > Fools are inviting Kali to come to Fairfield ! 
> > >
> > > Actually I was prepared for something like this to develop with all the 
> > > loose cannons on deck running around proclaiming "awakening" and what not.
> > >
> > > The rest of us can simply wait and watch to see what will happen in that 
> > > town.
> > 
> > I do Kali worship all the time and I'm as stable as anyone here.  ;-)
> 
> 
> Who said that worshipping Kali would make you unstable ?
> 
> Simply don't invite Her into your life or community unless you really know 
> what you are doing.
> 
> Some ignorants fellows, friends of Rich Archer basically, and obvious 
> ignorant "pujaris" invited Her to Fairfield. IF She accepted the invitation; 
> let's see what She does about it.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Vile vegetable

2009-09-21 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> In a bloody contest between swinging Mike Dixhead and Hillary's
> Virgina Dentata, Mike lost his pecker in a juicer trying to squeeze
> a juicy troll from Hillary's carrot penis.  He rues the day he
> became obsessed with mini carrot envy and Hillary's awesome Virgina
> Dentata.

 C'mon people, we've been through this before. The rule as it currently 
exists is:

8) Posting of "adult" material, either text or photos, or links to such 
materials, is prohibited. Violation of this guideline may result in expulsion 
from the group.

That image, IMO, definitely qualifies as adult in nature, because even though 
the teeth are photoshopped in (at least, I certainly hope they are), it's still 
a picture of actual human squishy bits. The carrot pic doesn't count because, 
well, it's a picture of a carrot.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Old TM'er in India

2009-09-21 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Visiting Saints
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > "and happy Navaratri to you.  We had the major Kartika puja last 
> > > > > night on the first night which is also Kali here instead of 3 days of 
> > > > > Durga.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > Incredibly powerful with twinkling lights all over, marigold garlands 
> > > > > hanging straight from the ceiling of the kalari and whole yantra 
> > > > > drawn on the kalari floor then lined with flowers. Girish, the main 
> > > > > pujari did the honors and we chanted the 108 names, then 1000 names 
> > > > > of Kali, Kali bhajans complete with small band, then the Kali song 
> > > > > (Aiy Giri).  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Haha, what a pack of simpletons and fools doing Puja to Kali! 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You're a small-minded, dogmatic and bigoted jackass, Nablussos:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "In truth worshipping any of the gods is really worship of Bhagavan"
> > > 
> > > ~ ~ Guru Dev
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Guru Dev continues:  
> > > 
> > > "The aim of devotees is really to feel Bhagavan everywhere.
> > > 
> > > All those who are fully absorbed in devotion to Bhagavad (God, Vishnu) 
> > > are VaishhNava (devotees of Vishnu). 
> > > 
> > > Someone who night and day is stealing, deceitful and doing other bad 
> > > behaviour etc yet thinking himself to be a devotee of VishhNu, cannot be 
> > > a VaishNava.
> > > 
> > > Shiva, Ganesha, Surya, Shakti (Durga, Lakshmi) etc are the limbs of 
> > > Bhagavan. 
> > > 
> > > Any devotee of Shiva can say 'Our Shankar (Shiva) is really Bhagavan', 
> > > any follower of Surya can say that 'Surya is really Bhagavan', then this 
> > > is really like not knowing the whole shape of the elephant. 
> > > 
> > > Some blind men took hold of an elephant's trunk and said 'This elephant 
> > > it is like a pestle.' Seizing the foot one said it was like a pillar. 
> > > Taking the ear one said it was like a winnowing basket. The thing is 
> > > really this that the blind men having seen the elephant got stirred up in 
> > > dispute. 
> > > 
> > > He who knows the whole form of the elephant will never say that the 
> > > elephant is similar to a winnowing basket or to a pestle. 
> > > 
> > > In the same way, he who has taken a good understanding of Bhagavan, he 
> > > can never say that Shiva is the true form of Bhagavan or Ganesha is the 
> > > true form of Bhagavan or that the four-armed form of VishhNu is really 
> > > the form of Bhagavan. 
> > > 
> > > He who is familiar with the essence of Bhagavat (God) that all these 
> > > several forms are really the separate parts or limbs of Paramatma (God). 
> > > 
> > > In truth worshipping any of the gods is really worship of Bhagavan. This 
> > > is really the established truth of the shaastra."
> > > 
> > > [Shri Shankaracharya UpadeshAmrita kaNa 68 of 108]
> > 
> > 
> > Ofcourse He is right in this. 
> > But Bhagavan has many colours, and Kali is perhaps not the first you want 
> > you want to meet unprepared. 
> > 
> > Have you met Her, do you know Her power ?  Of course you have not because 
> > if you had you would not dare to call me a bigott !
> > 
> > I happen to think that I am less of an jackass than you. And far less 
> > dogmatic.
> >
> 
> 
> Of course you do.


Based on what you write it's rather obvious.



[FairfieldLife] Re: What's Happening To Women's Happiness?

2009-09-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > In conclusion stupid women are happier than accomplished
> > women and old women are unhappier than anyone. Where is
> > the study that explains why this is the case? Message to
> > women: Stay barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen and by
> > the way, don't age.
> 
> Take a breath, Ms Dog. That's not an accurate assessment
> of the study.

It doesn't appear to have been the message the researchers
intended to send, but that's the message those who are not
comfortable with women's change in status will derive from
it. Or those who become outraged when a woman dares voice
a complaint, like Barry and the do.rkflex.

The authors do propose several complicated and non-intuitive
possible reasons for the decline, and suggest that their
study, since it involves so much data, could serve as the
basis for further investigation into the basis for
reports of subjective degrees of happiness.

> From the article: 
> 
> "You find this drop in happiness in women regardless of
> whether they have kids, how many kids they have, how
> much money they make, how healthy they are, what job
> they hold, whether they are married, single or divorced,
> how old they are, or what race they are.

This does *not* contradict what Raunchy said in her
summary, BTW, even though the do.rkflex would like
readers to believe it does.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Baucus Plan is Bullshit

2009-09-21 Thread mainstream20016
Baucus Bullshit  - that's right.  Baucus is a Dem in name only - he represents 
the status quo.  His Baucus Bullshit Senate Finance Committee healthcare reform 
bill deserves to be IGNORED. There are No Amendments that can put lipstick on 
that pig of a bill- the Baucus Bullshit bill is the creation of the insurance 
industry. 
Baucus ignored Single Payer advocates.  As early as July, the Finance Committee 
threw the public option overboard. Baucus's legacy rides on the outcome of the 
Baucus Bullshit Senate Finance Committee bill.   The Senate shouldn't waste 
time amending the Baucus Bullshit bill.   


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> Last week at the AFL-CIO convention, it was reported that AFSCME President 
> Gerald McEntee led the crowd in a derogatory chant about Max Baucus's Senate 
> Finance Committee bill.  But the video was nowhere to be found.
> 
> We found it:
> 
> The Senate Finance Committee is getting ready to debate a health care 
> bill.  That bill does not meet  the test of this resolution.
> 
> As a matter of fact, it doesn't even come close. And it does not meet 
> President Obma's standards either.  There is no employer mandate, no public 
> option, no help for retirees.  The finance committee bill imposes substantial 
> costs on the states, weakens state insurance regulation and taxes our health 
> plan.
> 
> (audience starts to boo)
> 
> That's right here...boo, boo come on.  It's all bullshit.
> 
> Come on, what's the word?
> 
> It's bullshit!
> 
> The speed with which all the videos were yanked from YouTube etc. indicates 
> that there was unhappiness with Mr. McEntee's speech in some sectors.  But 
> the AFSCME page inviting you to tell the Senate Finance Committee how you 
> feel about the bill is still up.
> 
> Fuckin' AFSCME.
> 
> Firedoglake Jane Hamsher
> http://snipurl.com/s0x6k
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Old TM'er in India

2009-09-21 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Visiting Saints
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > "and happy Navaratri to you.  We had the major Kartika puja last night 
> > > > on the first night which is also Kali here instead of 3 days of Durga.  
> > > > 
> > > > Incredibly powerful with twinkling lights all over, marigold garlands 
> > > > hanging straight from the ceiling of the kalari and whole yantra drawn 
> > > > on the kalari floor then lined with flowers. Girish, the main pujari 
> > > > did the honors and we chanted the 108 names, then 1000 names of Kali, 
> > > > Kali bhajans complete with small band, then the Kali song (Aiy Giri).  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Haha, what a pack of simpletons and fools doing Puja to Kali! 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > You're a small-minded, dogmatic and bigoted jackass, Nablussos:
> > 
> > 
> > "In truth worshipping any of the gods is really worship of Bhagavan"
> > 
> > ~ ~ Guru Dev
> > 
> > 
> > Guru Dev continues:  
> > 
> > "The aim of devotees is really to feel Bhagavan everywhere.
> > 
> > All those who are fully absorbed in devotion to Bhagavad (God, Vishnu) are 
> > VaishhNava (devotees of Vishnu). 
> > 
> > Someone who night and day is stealing, deceitful and doing other bad 
> > behaviour etc yet thinking himself to be a devotee of VishhNu, cannot be a 
> > VaishNava.
> > 
> > Shiva, Ganesha, Surya, Shakti (Durga, Lakshmi) etc are the limbs of 
> > Bhagavan. 
> > 
> > Any devotee of Shiva can say 'Our Shankar (Shiva) is really Bhagavan', any 
> > follower of Surya can say that 'Surya is really Bhagavan', then this is 
> > really like not knowing the whole shape of the elephant. 
> > 
> > Some blind men took hold of an elephant's trunk and said 'This elephant it 
> > is like a pestle.' Seizing the foot one said it was like a pillar. Taking 
> > the ear one said it was like a winnowing basket. The thing is really this 
> > that the blind men having seen the elephant got stirred up in dispute. 
> > 
> > He who knows the whole form of the elephant will never say that the 
> > elephant is similar to a winnowing basket or to a pestle. 
> > 
> > In the same way, he who has taken a good understanding of Bhagavan, he can 
> > never say that Shiva is the true form of Bhagavan or Ganesha is the true 
> > form of Bhagavan or that the four-armed form of VishhNu is really the form 
> > of Bhagavan. 
> > 
> > He who is familiar with the essence of Bhagavat (God) that all these 
> > several forms are really the separate parts or limbs of Paramatma (God). 
> > 
> > In truth worshipping any of the gods is really worship of Bhagavan. This is 
> > really the established truth of the shaastra."
> > 
> > [Shri Shankaracharya UpadeshAmrita kaNa 68 of 108]
> 
> 
> Ofcourse He is right in this. 
> But Bhagavan has many colours, and Kali is perhaps not the first you want you 
> want to meet unprepared. 
> 
> Have you met Her, do you know Her power ?  Of course you have not because if 
> you had you would not dare to call me a bigott !
> 
> I happen to think that I am less of an jackass than you. And far less 
> dogmatic.
>


Of course you do.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Old TM'er in India

2009-09-21 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> nablusoss1008 wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  
> > wrote:
> >   
> >> Visiting Saints
> >>
> >> 
> >> "and happy Navaratri to you.  We had the major Kartika puja last night on 
> >> the first night which is also Kali here instead of 3 days of Durga.  
> >>
> >> Incredibly powerful with twinkling lights all over, marigold garlands 
> >> hanging straight from the ceiling of the kalari and whole yantra drawn on 
> >> the kalari floor then lined with flowers. Girish, the main pujari did the 
> >> honors and we chanted the 108 names, then 1000 names of Kali, Kali bhajans 
> >> complete with small band, then the Kali song (Aiy Giri).  
> >> 
> >
> >
> > Haha, what a pack of simpletons and fools doing Puja to Kali! 
> >
> > Even indian worshippers who have been Kali worshippers running in their 
> > family for centuries are extremely cautious in approaching Her. 
> >
> > Do you have any idea whatsover what you are doing ? Does your socalled 
> > "pujari", a first class amateur no doubt ? Does he or any of you have any 
> > idea of what the conscequences might be ?
> >
> > If you invite Her into your life you will perhaps never know what hit you; 
> > unless you are completely and fully established in Transcendence. Are you ?
> >
> > Fools are inviting Kali to come to Fairfield ! 
> >
> > Actually I was prepared for something like this to develop with all the 
> > loose cannons on deck running around proclaiming "awakening" and what not.
> >
> > The rest of us can simply wait and watch to see what will happen in that 
> > town.
> 
> I do Kali worship all the time and I'm as stable as anyone here.  ;-)


Who said that worshipping Kali would make you unstable ?

Simply don't invite Her into your life or community unless you really know what 
you are doing.

Some ignorants fellows, friends of Rich Archer basically, and obvious ignorant 
"pujaris" invited Her to Fairfield. IF She accepted the invitation; let's see 
what She does about it.



[FairfieldLife] Re: What's Happening To Women's Happiness?

2009-09-21 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> In conclusion stupid women are happier than accomplished women and old women 
> are unhappier than anyone. 
> Where is the study that explains why this is the case? Message to women: Stay 
> barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen and by the way, don't age.
>


Take a breath, Ms Dog. That's not an accurate assessment of the study. 

>From the article: 

"You find this drop in happiness in women regardless of whether they have kids, 
how many kids they have, how much money they make, how healthy they are, what 
job they hold, whether they are married, single or divorced, how old they are, 
or what race they are. (The one and only exception: African-American women are 
now slightly happier than they were back in 1972, although they remain less 
happy than African American men.)" 

This is a large survey:

"This survey includes a representative sample of men and women of all ages, 
education levels, income levels, and marital status--1,500 per year for a total 
of almost 50,000 individuals thus far--and so it gives us a most reliable 
picture of what's happened to men's and women's happiness over the last few 
decades.

Full report here (pdf): http://snipurl.com/s0xcz [bpp_wharton_upenn_edu] 





> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > What's Happening To Women's Happiness?
> > 
> >   [Marcus Buckingham]  
> > Marcus Buckingham  
> > Imagine it is 1969 and we're in a thriving American city. Let's choose
> > Detroit. The '60s were good to the Motor City, and the future would have
> > looked bright as new chrome. Now, imagine stopping a working woman on
> > Detroit's Woodward Avenue, perhaps a young bank clerk, and asking if she
> > would cast her mind forward, decades into the future. Not to picture the
> > flying cars and space-themed restaurants that always seem to pop up in
> > visions of the future, but to think about the role of women at work, in
> > business, in government, in life. What do you think she would have said?
> > 
> > 
> > 1969 was an intense, rousing time for women in America. Betty Friedan
> > had published The Feminine Mystique a few years earlier, and had founded
> > the National Organization for Women in 1966. And Gloria Steinem had just
> > published the essay in New York Magazine that clearly separated the
> > modern Women's Movement from other oppressed groups, "After Black Power:
> > Women's Liberation," in which she called for meaningful work, equal pay,
> > and the goal for all women to be freed from the role of only "servicing
> > men and their children."
> > 
> > Fast forward 40 years: no matter how optimistic the guesses of our
> > "woman-on-a-Detroit-street," I bet they wouldn't have outstripped what's
> > actually happened.
> > 
> > 
> > Women rising
> > 
> > I doubt she would have guessed that by the early twenty-first century,
> > women would be running the governments of countries as powerful and
> > widespread as Germany and Ireland, Bangladesh and New Zealand, Chile,
> > Mozambique, and Jamaica. Or that the wife of one U.S. president would
> > spend months in 2008 as the national favorite to become president
> > herself and, barely failing in that quest, would become an outspoken
> > Secretary of State, or that the Speaker of the House would be a woman,
> > or that John McCain would choose a moose-hunting, helicopter-riding,
> > crowd-pleasing mother of five as his running mate because she'd stared
> > down oil companies as governor of the tough state of Alaska.
> > 
> > How about education? I'm sure she would have forecast that more women
> > would be completing high school and attending college, but do you think
> > she'd have predicted that during the 2008 school year, 59 percent of all
> > the bachelor's degrees and 61 percent of all the master's degrees would
> > be earned by women, not by men? Or that by 2009, four out of the eight
> > Ivy League universities--Harvard, Brown, Penn and Princeton--would have
> > female presidents?
> > 
> > And work? Again, she would probably have bet that, in the future, more
> > women would be working, but would she have guessed that October will be
> > the first month in which women outnumber men in the workforce, that
> > women would be holding more management and supervisory positions than
> > men, by a margin of 37 percent to 31 percent, that in like-for-like work
> > women and men with the same amount of work experience would be earning
> > the same, and that women's pay would actually be increasing faster than
> > men's? I doubt it.
> > 
> > Yet the biggest surprise would have come if you had asked her just one
> > more question. Given all the evidence of women running corporations and
> > universities, hospitals, media empires, branches of government, army
> > divisions, and countries, do you think women in the future will be
> > happie

[FairfieldLife] Baucus Plan is Bullshit

2009-09-21 Thread raunchydog
Last week at the AFL-CIO convention, it was reported that AFSCME President 
Gerald McEntee led the crowd in a derogatory chant about Max Baucus's Senate 
Finance Committee bill.  But the video was nowhere to be found.

We found it:

The Senate Finance Committee is getting ready to debate a health care bill. 
 That bill does not meet  the test of this resolution.

As a matter of fact, it doesn't even come close. And it does not meet 
President Obma's standards either.  There is no employer mandate, no public 
option, no help for retirees.  The finance committee bill imposes substantial 
costs on the states, weakens state insurance regulation and taxes our health 
plan.

(audience starts to boo)

That's right here...boo, boo come on.  It's all bullshit.

Come on, what's the word?

It's bullshit!

The speed with which all the videos were yanked from YouTube etc. indicates 
that there was unhappiness with Mr. McEntee's speech in some sectors.  But the 
AFSCME page inviting you to tell the Senate Finance Committee how you feel 
about the bill is still up.

Fuckin' AFSCME.

Firedoglake Jane Hamsher
http://snipurl.com/s0x6k



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Old TM'er in India

2009-09-21 Thread Bhairitu
nablusoss1008 wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  
> wrote:
>   
>> Visiting Saints
>>
>> 
>> "and happy Navaratri to you.  We had the major Kartika puja last night on 
>> the first night which is also Kali here instead of 3 days of Durga.  
>>
>> Incredibly powerful with twinkling lights all over, marigold garlands 
>> hanging straight from the ceiling of the kalari and whole yantra drawn on 
>> the kalari floor then lined with flowers. Girish, the main pujari did the 
>> honors and we chanted the 108 names, then 1000 names of Kali, Kali bhajans 
>> complete with small band, then the Kali song (Aiy Giri).  
>> 
>
>
> Haha, what a pack of simpletons and fools doing Puja to Kali! 
>
> Even indian worshippers who have been Kali worshippers running in their 
> family for centuries are extremely cautious in approaching Her. 
>
> Do you have any idea whatsover what you are doing ? Does your socalled 
> "pujari", a first class amateur no doubt ? Does he or any of you have any 
> idea of what the conscequences might be ?
>
> If you invite Her into your life you will perhaps never know what hit you; 
> unless you are completely and fully established in Transcendence. Are you ?
>
> Fools are inviting Kali to come to Fairfield ! 
>
> Actually I was prepared for something like this to develop with all the loose 
> cannons on deck running around proclaiming "awakening" and what not.
>
> The rest of us can simply wait and watch to see what will happen in that town.

I do Kali worship all the time and I'm as stable as anyone here.  ;-)



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sand artist Kseniya Simonova

2009-09-21 Thread Bhairitu
ShempMcGurk wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, and the New York Times covered it up, too.
>
> Sadly, the whole sordid episode was recreated by Mao in China in 1959-61 and 
> that time 30-80 million peasants died.
>
> Bhairitu wants to replace capitalism with this sort of system.
>   

No, I recommend Transcendental Socialism instead. ;-)

That's "not in your face" socialism with limited capitalism (small 
businesses only).

Shemp has nothing to worry about.  :-D






[FairfieldLife] Re: Old TM'er in India

2009-09-21 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Visiting Saints
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "and happy Navaratri to you.  We had the major Kartika puja last night on 
> > > the first night which is also Kali here instead of 3 days of Durga.  
> > > 
> > > Incredibly powerful with twinkling lights all over, marigold garlands 
> > > hanging straight from the ceiling of the kalari and whole yantra drawn on 
> > > the kalari floor then lined with flowers. Girish, the main pujari did the 
> > > honors and we chanted the 108 names, then 1000 names of Kali, Kali 
> > > bhajans complete with small band, then the Kali song (Aiy Giri).  
> > 
> > 
> > Haha, what a pack of simpletons and fools doing Puja to Kali! 
> > 
> 
> 
> You're a small-minded, dogmatic and bigoted jackass, Nablussos:
> 
> 
> "In truth worshipping any of the gods is really worship of Bhagavan"
> 
> ~ ~ Guru Dev
> 
> 
> Guru Dev continues:  
> 
> "The aim of devotees is really to feel Bhagavan everywhere.
> 
> All those who are fully absorbed in devotion to Bhagavad (God, Vishnu) are 
> VaishhNava (devotees of Vishnu). 
> 
> Someone who night and day is stealing, deceitful and doing other bad 
> behaviour etc yet thinking himself to be a devotee of VishhNu, cannot be a 
> VaishNava.
> 
> Shiva, Ganesha, Surya, Shakti (Durga, Lakshmi) etc are the limbs of Bhagavan. 
> 
> Any devotee of Shiva can say 'Our Shankar (Shiva) is really Bhagavan', any 
> follower of Surya can say that 'Surya is really Bhagavan', then this is 
> really like not knowing the whole shape of the elephant. 
> 
> Some blind men took hold of an elephant's trunk and said 'This elephant it is 
> like a pestle.' Seizing the foot one said it was like a pillar. Taking the 
> ear one said it was like a winnowing basket. The thing is really this that 
> the blind men having seen the elephant got stirred up in dispute. 
> 
> He who knows the whole form of the elephant will never say that the elephant 
> is similar to a winnowing basket or to a pestle. 
> 
> In the same way, he who has taken a good understanding of Bhagavan, he can 
> never say that Shiva is the true form of Bhagavan or Ganesha is the true form 
> of Bhagavan or that the four-armed form of VishhNu is really the form of 
> Bhagavan. 
> 
> He who is familiar with the essence of Bhagavat (God) that all these several 
> forms are really the separate parts or limbs of Paramatma (God). 
> 
> In truth worshipping any of the gods is really worship of Bhagavan. This is 
> really the established truth of the shaastra."
> 
> [Shri Shankaracharya UpadeshAmrita kaNa 68 of 108]


Ofcourse He is right in this. 
But Bhagavan has many colours, and Kali is perhaps not the first you want you 
want to meet unprepared. 

Have you met Her, do you know Her power ?  Of course you have not because if 
you had you would not dare to call me a bigott !

I happen to think that I am less of an jackass than you. And far less dogmatic.



[FairfieldLife] Re: What's Happening To Women's Happiness?

2009-09-21 Thread raunchydog
In conclusion stupid women are happier than accomplished women and old women 
are unhappier than anyone. Where is the study that explains why this is the 
case? Message to women: Stay barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen and by the 
way, don't age.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> What's Happening To Women's Happiness?
> 
>   [Marcus Buckingham]  
> Marcus Buckingham  
> Imagine it is 1969 and we're in a thriving American city. Let's choose
> Detroit. The '60s were good to the Motor City, and the future would have
> looked bright as new chrome. Now, imagine stopping a working woman on
> Detroit's Woodward Avenue, perhaps a young bank clerk, and asking if she
> would cast her mind forward, decades into the future. Not to picture the
> flying cars and space-themed restaurants that always seem to pop up in
> visions of the future, but to think about the role of women at work, in
> business, in government, in life. What do you think she would have said?
> 
> 
> 1969 was an intense, rousing time for women in America. Betty Friedan
> had published The Feminine Mystique a few years earlier, and had founded
> the National Organization for Women in 1966. And Gloria Steinem had just
> published the essay in New York Magazine that clearly separated the
> modern Women's Movement from other oppressed groups, "After Black Power:
> Women's Liberation," in which she called for meaningful work, equal pay,
> and the goal for all women to be freed from the role of only "servicing
> men and their children."
> 
> Fast forward 40 years: no matter how optimistic the guesses of our
> "woman-on-a-Detroit-street," I bet they wouldn't have outstripped what's
> actually happened.
> 
> 
> Women rising
> 
> I doubt she would have guessed that by the early twenty-first century,
> women would be running the governments of countries as powerful and
> widespread as Germany and Ireland, Bangladesh and New Zealand, Chile,
> Mozambique, and Jamaica. Or that the wife of one U.S. president would
> spend months in 2008 as the national favorite to become president
> herself and, barely failing in that quest, would become an outspoken
> Secretary of State, or that the Speaker of the House would be a woman,
> or that John McCain would choose a moose-hunting, helicopter-riding,
> crowd-pleasing mother of five as his running mate because she'd stared
> down oil companies as governor of the tough state of Alaska.
> 
> How about education? I'm sure she would have forecast that more women
> would be completing high school and attending college, but do you think
> she'd have predicted that during the 2008 school year, 59 percent of all
> the bachelor's degrees and 61 percent of all the master's degrees would
> be earned by women, not by men? Or that by 2009, four out of the eight
> Ivy League universities--Harvard, Brown, Penn and Princeton--would have
> female presidents?
> 
> And work? Again, she would probably have bet that, in the future, more
> women would be working, but would she have guessed that October will be
> the first month in which women outnumber men in the workforce, that
> women would be holding more management and supervisory positions than
> men, by a margin of 37 percent to 31 percent, that in like-for-like work
> women and men with the same amount of work experience would be earning
> the same, and that women's pay would actually be increasing faster than
> men's? I doubt it.
> 
> Yet the biggest surprise would have come if you had asked her just one
> more question. Given all the evidence of women running corporations and
> universities, hospitals, media empires, branches of government, army
> divisions, and countries, do you think women in the future will be
> happier?
> 
> Of course they will be happier, she would have said. With all these
> opportunities and achievements, how could they not be?
> 
> Well, as it turns out, too easily.
> 
> 
> Happiness lost
> 
> Each year since 1972, the United States General Social Survey has asked
> men and women: "How happy are you, on a scale of 1 to 3, with 3 being
> very happy, and 1 being not too happy?" This survey includes a
> representative sample of men and women of all ages, education levels,
> income levels, and marital status--1,500 per year for a total of almost
> 50,000 individuals thus far--and so it gives us a most reliable picture
> of what's happened to men's and women's happiness over the last few
> decades.
> 
> As you can imagine, a survey this massive generates a multitude of
> findings, (see the full report
>  female%20happiness.pdf>  by Wharton Professors Betsy Stevenson and
> Justin Wolfers) but here are the two most important discoveries.
> 
> First, since 1972, women's overall level of happiness has dropped, both
> relative to where they were forty years ago, and rel

[FairfieldLife] Re: Old TM'er in India

2009-09-21 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  wrote:
> >
> > Visiting Saints
> > 
> > 
> > "and happy Navaratri to you.  We had the major Kartika puja last night on 
> > the first night which is also Kali here instead of 3 days of Durga.  
> > 
> > Incredibly powerful with twinkling lights all over, marigold garlands 
> > hanging straight from the ceiling of the kalari and whole yantra drawn on 
> > the kalari floor then lined with flowers. Girish, the main pujari did the 
> > honors and we chanted the 108 names, then 1000 names of Kali, Kali bhajans 
> > complete with small band, then the Kali song (Aiy Giri).  
> 
> 
> Haha, what a pack of simpletons and fools doing Puja to Kali! 
> 


You're a small-minded, dogmatic and bigoted jackass, Nablussos:


"In truth worshipping any of the gods is really worship of Bhagavan"

~ ~ Guru Dev


Guru Dev continues:  

"The aim of devotees is really to feel Bhagavan everywhere.

All those who are fully absorbed in devotion to Bhagavad (God, Vishnu) are 
VaishhNava (devotees of Vishnu). 

Someone who night and day is stealing, deceitful and doing other bad behaviour 
etc yet thinking himself to be a devotee of VishhNu, cannot be a VaishNava.

Shiva, Ganesha, Surya, Shakti (Durga, Lakshmi) etc are the limbs of Bhagavan. 

Any devotee of Shiva can say 'Our Shankar (Shiva) is really Bhagavan', any 
follower of Surya can say that 'Surya is really Bhagavan', then this is really 
like not knowing the whole shape of the elephant. 

Some blind men took hold of an elephant's trunk and said 'This elephant it is 
like a pestle.' Seizing the foot one said it was like a pillar. Taking the ear 
one said it was like a winnowing basket. The thing is really this that the 
blind men having seen the elephant got stirred up in dispute. 

He who knows the whole form of the elephant will never say that the elephant is 
similar to a winnowing basket or to a pestle. 

In the same way, he who has taken a good understanding of Bhagavan, he can 
never say that Shiva is the true form of Bhagavan or Ganesha is the true form 
of Bhagavan or that the four-armed form of VishhNu is really the form of 
Bhagavan. 

He who is familiar with the essence of Bhagavat (God) that all these several 
forms are really the separate parts or limbs of Paramatma (God). 

In truth worshipping any of the gods is really worship of Bhagavan. This is 
really the established truth of the shaastra."

[Shri Shankaracharya UpadeshAmrita kaNa 68 of 108]





> Even indian worshippers who have been Kali worshippers running in their 
> family for centuries are extremely cautious in approaching Her. 
> 
> Do you have any idea whatsover what you are doing ? Does your socalled 
> "pujari", a first class amateur no doubt ? Does he or any of you have any 
> idea of what the conscequences might be ?
> 
> If you invite Her into your life you will perhaps never know what hit you; 
> unless you are completely and fully established in Transcendence. Are you ?
> 
> Fools are inviting Kali to come to Fairfield ! 
> 
> Actually I was prepared for something like this to develop with all the loose 
> cannons on deck running around proclaiming "awakening" and what not.
> 
> The rest of us can simply wait and watch to see what will happen in that town.
>




[FairfieldLife] Grand fools are inviting Kali to Fairfield

2009-09-21 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  wrote:
> >
> > Visiting Saints
> > 
> > 
> > "and happy Navaratri to you.  We had the major Kartika puja last night on 
> > the first night which is also Kali here instead of 3 days of Durga.  
> > 
> > Incredibly powerful with twinkling lights all over, marigold garlands 
> > hanging straight from the ceiling of the kalari and whole yantra drawn on 
> > the kalari floor then lined with flowers. Girish, the main pujari did the 
> > honors and we chanted the 108 names, then 1000 names of Kali, Kali bhajans 
> > complete with small band, then the Kali song (Aiy Giri).  
> 
> 
> Haha, what a pack of simpletons and fools doing Puja to Kali! 
> 
> Even indian worshippers who have been Kali worshippers running in their 
> family for centuries are extremely cautious in approaching Her. 
> 
> Do you have any idea whatsover what you are doing ? Does your socalled 
> "pujari", a first class amateur no doubt ? Does he or any of you have any 
> idea of what the conscequences might be ?
> 
> If you invite Her into your life you will perhaps never know what hit you; 
> unless you are completely and fully established in Transcendence. Are you ?
> 
> Fools are inviting Kali to come to Fairfield ! 
> 
> Actually I was prepared for something like this to develop with all the loose 
> cannons on deck running around proclaiming "awakening" and what not.
> 
> The rest of us must simply wait and watch to see what will happen to that 
> town.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Old TM'er in India

2009-09-21 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  wrote:
>
> Visiting Saints
> 
> 
> "and happy Navaratri to you.  We had the major Kartika puja last night on the 
> first night which is also Kali here instead of 3 days of Durga.  
> 
> Incredibly powerful with twinkling lights all over, marigold garlands hanging 
> straight from the ceiling of the kalari and whole yantra drawn on the kalari 
> floor then lined with flowers. Girish, the main pujari did the honors and we 
> chanted the 108 names, then 1000 names of Kali, Kali bhajans complete with 
> small band, then the Kali song (Aiy Giri).  


Haha, what a pack of simpletons and fools doing Puja to Kali! 

Even indian worshippers who have been Kali worshippers running in their family 
for centuries are extremely cautious in approaching Her. 

Do you have any idea whatsover what you are doing ? Does your socalled 
"pujari", a first class amateur no doubt ? Does he or any of you have any idea 
of what the conscequences might be ?

If you invite Her into your life you will perhaps never know what hit you; 
unless you are completely and fully established in Transcendence. Are you ?

Fools are inviting Kali to come to Fairfield ! 

Actually I was prepared for something like this to develop with all the loose 
cannons on deck running around proclaiming "awakening" and what not.

The rest of us can simply wait and watch to see what will happen in that town.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Vile vegetable( !!!!!!! )

2009-09-21 Thread meowthirteen
-HAHAHAhAhAh a  ah *snort* AH HAHAHAhA HahAHAHOO HOOO *snort*
!!






-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> So that's why you're called  *Raunchydog*! My god woman, you could scare the 
> hell out of a young impressionable child, LOL!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: raunchydog 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 7:38:02 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vile vegetable
> 
>   
> In a bloody contest between swinging Mike Dixhead and Hillary's Virgina 
> Dentata, Mike lost his pecker in a juicer trying to squeeze a juicy troll 
> from Hillary's carrot penis.  He rues the day he became obsessed with mini 
> carrot envy and Hillary's awesome Virgina Dentata.
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vile vegetable

2009-09-21 Thread Mike Dixon
So that's why you're called  *Raunchydog*! My god woman, you could scare the 
hell out of a young impressionable child, LOL!





From: raunchydog 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 7:38:02 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vile vegetable

  
In a bloody contest between swinging Mike Dixhead and Hillary's Virgina 
Dentata, Mike lost his pecker in a juicer trying to squeeze a juicy troll from 
Hillary's carrot penis.  He rues the day he became obsessed with mini carrot 
envy and Hillary's awesome Virgina Dentata.







  

[FairfieldLife] Type in Sanskrit

2009-09-21 Thread Rick Archer
>From a friend:
 
I wanted everyone to have an opportunity to see this today. Just in last
week from Dr. Chris Boas, President of the Vedic Vidya Institute in
California and head of the dept. of Sanskrit at Oxford. He wrote last week
to let me know of a new programme that they have developed and are offering
for free, that allows one to type in Sanskrit.  I have tried it and it is
fantastic. And it's FREE!
 
Chris wrote:
 
I am not sure if you guys have heard, but the Vedic Vidya Institute, of
which I am President, has released a new free software program, which allows
you to type Devanagari and transliteration in Hindi and Sanksrit using MS
Word or other standard word processor and emails programs.
 
  http://vedicvidya.org/downloads.html
 
Thought this might be interesting information to your networks.
 
Chris


[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan steps down as MUM Chairman

2009-09-21 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On Sep 20, 2009, at 6:56 PM, wayback71 wrote:
> 
> > MUM Development Office notice: Bevan held the top position for 31  
> > years as Chairman of the Board of Trustees of MUM.  Now, Dr. J  
> > Abramson is taking his place.
> 
> If it's Jeffrey Abramson, it should be interesting.
> He's only slightly less egomaniacal than Bevan--
> but he is a lot thinner...FWIW
> 
> Sal


Why are women so obsessed with weight ?




[FairfieldLife] What's Happening To Women's Happiness?

2009-09-21 Thread do.rflex

What's Happening To Women's Happiness?

  [Marcus Buckingham]  
Marcus Buckingham  
Imagine it is 1969 and we're in a thriving American city. Let's choose
Detroit. The '60s were good to the Motor City, and the future would have
looked bright as new chrome. Now, imagine stopping a working woman on
Detroit's Woodward Avenue, perhaps a young bank clerk, and asking if she
would cast her mind forward, decades into the future. Not to picture the
flying cars and space-themed restaurants that always seem to pop up in
visions of the future, but to think about the role of women at work, in
business, in government, in life. What do you think she would have said?


1969 was an intense, rousing time for women in America. Betty Friedan
had published The Feminine Mystique a few years earlier, and had founded
the National Organization for Women in 1966. And Gloria Steinem had just
published the essay in New York Magazine that clearly separated the
modern Women's Movement from other oppressed groups, "After Black Power:
Women's Liberation," in which she called for meaningful work, equal pay,
and the goal for all women to be freed from the role of only "servicing
men and their children."

Fast forward 40 years: no matter how optimistic the guesses of our
"woman-on-a-Detroit-street," I bet they wouldn't have outstripped what's
actually happened.


Women rising

I doubt she would have guessed that by the early twenty-first century,
women would be running the governments of countries as powerful and
widespread as Germany and Ireland, Bangladesh and New Zealand, Chile,
Mozambique, and Jamaica. Or that the wife of one U.S. president would
spend months in 2008 as the national favorite to become president
herself and, barely failing in that quest, would become an outspoken
Secretary of State, or that the Speaker of the House would be a woman,
or that John McCain would choose a moose-hunting, helicopter-riding,
crowd-pleasing mother of five as his running mate because she'd stared
down oil companies as governor of the tough state of Alaska.

How about education? I'm sure she would have forecast that more women
would be completing high school and attending college, but do you think
she'd have predicted that during the 2008 school year, 59 percent of all
the bachelor's degrees and 61 percent of all the master's degrees would
be earned by women, not by men? Or that by 2009, four out of the eight
Ivy League universities--Harvard, Brown, Penn and Princeton--would have
female presidents?

And work? Again, she would probably have bet that, in the future, more
women would be working, but would she have guessed that October will be
the first month in which women outnumber men in the workforce, that
women would be holding more management and supervisory positions than
men, by a margin of 37 percent to 31 percent, that in like-for-like work
women and men with the same amount of work experience would be earning
the same, and that women's pay would actually be increasing faster than
men's? I doubt it.

Yet the biggest surprise would have come if you had asked her just one
more question. Given all the evidence of women running corporations and
universities, hospitals, media empires, branches of government, army
divisions, and countries, do you think women in the future will be
happier?

Of course they will be happier, she would have said. With all these
opportunities and achievements, how could they not be?

Well, as it turns out, too easily.


Happiness lost

Each year since 1972, the United States General Social Survey has asked
men and women: "How happy are you, on a scale of 1 to 3, with 3 being
very happy, and 1 being not too happy?" This survey includes a
representative sample of men and women of all ages, education levels,
income levels, and marital status--1,500 per year for a total of almost
50,000 individuals thus far--and so it gives us a most reliable picture
of what's happened to men's and women's happiness over the last few
decades.

As you can imagine, a survey this massive generates a multitude of
findings, (see the full report
  by Wharton Professors Betsy Stevenson and
Justin Wolfers) but here are the two most important discoveries.

First, since 1972, women's overall level of happiness has dropped, both
relative to where they were forty years ago, and relative to men. You
find this drop in happiness in women regardless of whether they have
kids, how many kids they have, how much money they make, how healthy
they are, what job they hold, whether they are married, single or
divorced, how old they are, or what race they are. (The one and only
exception: African-American women are now slightly happier than they
were back in 1972, although they remain less happy than African American
men.)

If you are a visual learner, this is what the gra

[FairfieldLife] Military Escalation: From Afghanistan To the Caspian Sea

2009-09-21 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> 
> Gee, Robert. Last I heard Obama, not the military, was Commander in Chief in 
> charge of expanding military operations in Afghanistan. The CIA may well 
> feast on opium pie but energy hungry nations hope to feast on the main dish, 
> a pipeline to the Caspian sea. http://snipurl.com/s0sd2 
> 
> As I recall during his campaign Obama said Iraq was a just a distraction and 
> we should have "finished the war in Afghanistan" to prevent the resurgence of 
> the Taliban, and Al-Qaeda terrorist training camps. Now that we have oil 
> production pretty much under our control in Iraq, we find out that the real 
> reason we're in Afghanistan is that the "terrorists" are squatting on land 
> right in the middle of the proposed pipeline. Silly me, duped by Bush in Iraq 
> and now duped by Obama in Afghanistan. Not.
> 

The Pentagon and its NATO allies have launched the largest combat offensive to 
date in their nearly eight-year war in South Asia - Operation Khanjar (Strike 
of the Sword) with 4,000 US Marines, attack helicopters and tanks and Operation 
Panchai Palang (Panther's Claw) with several hundred British engaged in 
airborne assaults - in the Afghan province of Helmand.

The American effort is the largest ground combat operation conducted by 
Washington in Asia since the Vietnam War.

Other NATO and allied nations have also boosted or intend to increase their 
troop strength in Afghanistan, with German forces to exceed 4,000 for the first 
time, Romanian troops to top 1,000 and contingents to be augmented from dozens 
of other NATO member and partner states, including formerly neutral Finland and 
Sweden.

The US, NATO, NATO's Partnership for Peace and Contact Countries and other 
allied nations - states as diverse as Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, the 
United Arab Emirates and Macedonia - have some 90,000 troops in Afghanistan, 
all under the command of America's General Stanley A. McChrystal, former head 
of the Joint Special Operations Command in Iraq and a counterinsurgency master 
hand. The Afghan-Pakistani war theater resembles the Vietnam War in more than 
one manner.

The US troop contingent has nearly doubled since last year, more than 
quintupled in five years, and will be in the neighborhood of 70,000 soldiers by 
year's end.

Concurrent with the ongoing offensive the US has fired missiles from aerial 
drones into Pakistan in the two deadliest strikes of the type ever in that 
country, killing 65 and 50 people in two recent attacks.

Large-scale government military operations on the Pakistani side of the border, 
coordinated with the Pentagon through its new Pakistan Afghanistan Coordination 
Cell and with NATO through the Trilateral Afghanistan-Pakistan-NATO Military 
Commission, have uprooted and displaced well in excess of two million 
civilians, the largest population dislocation in Pakistan since the 1947 
partition of British India.

Read More:
Global Research, July 10, 2009
http://snipurl.com/s0tkf



Re: [FairfieldLife] Vile vegetable

2009-09-21 Thread Mike Dixon
Carrot imitating Hillary, well...maybe not the kankles.





From: ShempMcGurk 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 9:02:53 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Vile vegetable

  
 



  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Howard Dean confident bill with Public Option will pass

2009-09-21 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
>
>  (snip)
> > What makes you think Obama isn't a corporate tool as well? Is he so special 
> > and blessed by the gods of power that he doesn't need to explain why 
> > everyone shouldn't have the public option if they want it? Instead of 
> > evading questions on TV trying to sell us a health reform pig, he could 
> > just have easily said, "Look, private health insurance and big pharma have 
> > screwed you for years and they will continue to do so unless we force them 
> > to compete with a public option that is available to anyone who wants it." 
> > 
> > Yep. It's all about the money. If he doesn't play along to get along 
> > insurance/big pharma will just fill the coffers of the Republicans. 
> > Meanwhile, corporate media continues to divide and conquer. FOX profits 
> > from inciting right wing anger about "government control of health care" 
> > and MSNBC, CNN, profits from bashing teabaggers and inciting left wing 
> > elitism. The last thing any corporate pol or pundit wants is for the right 
> > and left to discover that they have a common enemy, namely a propaganda 
> > machine that keeps them fighting and stupid about corporate control of 
> > their lives.
> >
> Fox is not news, it's propaganda...
> The other networks are more subtle, in their propaganda...
> We began to lose this democracy, on November 22, 1963...
> Since that time, the military and corporations, have been running this 
> country...
> At this point the Congress and the President and the Supreme Court, or more 
> figure heads, for the Corporate Masters, than of the people, by the people, 
> and for the people...
> Just this morning, the military wants to expand their operations in 
> Afghanistan...

Gee, Robert. Last I heard Obama, not the military, was Commander in Chief in 
charge of expanding military operations in Afghanistan. The CIA may well feast 
on opium pie but energy hungry nations hope to feast on the main dish, a 
pipeline to the Caspian sea. http://snipurl.com/s0sd2 

As I recall during his campaign Obama said Iraq was a just a distraction and we 
should have "finished the war in Afghanistan" to prevent the resurgence of the 
Taliban, and Al-Qaeda terrorist training camps. Now that we have oil production 
pretty much under our control in Iraq, we find out that the real reason we're 
in Afghanistan is that the "terrorists" are squatting on land right in the 
middle of the proposed pipeline. Silly me, duped by Bush in Iraq and now duped 
by Obama in Afghanistan. Not.

> Does, anyone actually think, that Afghanistan, can be tamed?
> Check out the history of this area, for the past several hundred years...
> One of the reasons, we are there, is for the CIA, to make money off the opium 
> trade...
> The CIA people are given millions of dollars in cash to pay people off...
> There is so much going on behind the scenes in these war situations...
> Most of it, is just a way, to drain some more money, that could be used to 
> actually help and evolve our lives...
> But these ass-holes are addicted to power, and violence...
> And continue to make war, some kind of 'Nobel thing'...
> Has there been a time, in recent history, where we weren't interfering in 
> someone else's business, and having a war somewhere?
> 
> It might be too late, to have a real democracy again...
> The military/corporate complex, has got it pretty much wrapped up...
> 
> R.G.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Howard Dean confident bill with Public Option will pass

2009-09-21 Thread Robert
 (snip)
> What makes you think Obama isn't a corporate tool as well? Is he so special 
> and blessed by the gods of power that he doesn't need to explain why everyone 
> shouldn't have the public option if they want it? Instead of evading 
> questions on TV trying to sell us a health reform pig, he could just have 
> easily said, "Look, private health insurance and big pharma have screwed you 
> for years and they will continue to do so unless we force them to compete 
> with a public option that is available to anyone who wants it." 
> 
> Yep. It's all about the money. If he doesn't play along to get along 
> insurance/big pharma will just fill the coffers of the Republicans. 
> Meanwhile, corporate media continues to divide and conquer. FOX profits from 
> inciting right wing anger about "government control of health care" and 
> MSNBC, CNN, profits from bashing teabaggers and inciting left wing elitism. 
> The last thing any corporate pol or pundit wants is for the right and left to 
> discover that they have a common enemy, namely a propaganda machine that 
> keeps them fighting and stupid about corporate control of their lives.
>
Fox is not news, it's propaganda...
The other networks are more subtle, in their propaganda...
We began to lose this democracy, on November 22, 1963...
Since that time, the military and corporations, have been running this 
country...
At this point the Congress and the President and the Supreme Court, or more 
figure heads, for the Corporate Masters, than of the people, by the people, and 
for the people...
Just this morning, the military wants to expand their operations in 
Afghanistan...
Does, anyone actually think, that Afghanistan, can be tamed?
Check out the history of this area, for the past several hundred years...
One of the reasons, we are there, is for the CIA, to make money off the opium 
trade...
The CIA people are given millions of dollars in cash to pay people off...
There is so much going on behind the scenes in these war situations...
Most of it, is just a way, to drain some more money, that could be used to 
actually help and evolve our lives...
But these ass-holes are addicted to power, and violence...
And continue to make war, some kind of 'Nobel thing'...
Has there been a time, in recent history, where we weren't interfering in 
someone else's business, and having a war somewhere?

It might be too late, to have a real democracy again...
The military/corporate complex, has got it pretty much wrapped up...

R.G.



[FairfieldLife] Old TM'er in India

2009-09-21 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Visiting Saints


"and happy Navaratri to you.  We had the major Kartika puja last night on the 
first night which is also Kali here instead of 3 days of Durga.  

Incredibly powerful with twinkling lights all over, marigold garlands hanging 
straight from the ceiling of the kalari and whole yantra drawn on the kalari 
floor then lined with flowers. Girish, the main pujari did the honors and we 
chanted the 108 names, then 1000 names of Kali, Kali bhajans complete with 
small band, then the Kali song (Aiy Giri).  

Took an hour and a half, 350 people stuffed into a space that might hold 75 in 
a pinch.  Everyone got pasayam at the end.  Even the little kalari was 
decorated - the tiny ancestral temple original to Amma's house and the village. 
 Looks like a dollhouse and is ensconced opposite the entrance to the inner 
kalari under the only tree left in that area.  Both are encased within a cement 
surround.  It had a miniature lamp in it's entrance and was also decorated with 
tiny
 lights.  The power of the drums let us know that Kali was really dancing 
there.  I kept flashing back to the Kali yagya that pundit Sharma did last 
spring, marveling that I was able to be at bothAmma..."






[FairfieldLife] Re: Vile: vegetable ONLY in the EYE of the beholder

2009-09-21 Thread Robert
-At one time, the human form, was considered beautiful, and many artistic 
works, used the human form in a beautiful way...

In this ugly materialistic society, mostly everything natural is considered bad 
or evil...

If it's not making money for the corporations, the Christians, will claim every 
thing is evil, even the human body...

The Christians believe that we are born with 'Original Sin'...
Did you know, that according to them, just being born is a sin...
And to abort a birth is a sin...

Everything is vile and a sinful, to these child molesters, and those attempting 
to superimpose their strange blood ceremony's on everyone...

Those horny priests, just need to go out and spread the 'Good News'...
And get laid...

r.g.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Howard Dean confident bill with Public Option will pass

2009-09-21 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert G."  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Stein"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Today on ABC's This Week Obama denied making people pay
> > > > > > a penalty if they don't buy mandated health insurance is
> > > > > > a tax on the middle class, dissed those who can't afford
> > > > > > insurance as a burden on those who can afford it
> > > > > 
> > > > > In fairness, he said those who CAN afford health
> > > > > insurance--or would be able to under the reform
> > > > > provisions--but choose not to are the burden. See
> > > > > the portion of the This Week transcript posted as
> > > > > an update.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > and dissed supporters of the public option calling them
> > > > > > ideologues.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This was also updated after a review of the video:
> > > > > 
> > > > > "[Update II: After watching the NBC MTP video, Obama's
> > > > > statement about getting beyond ideology was general;
> > > > > it was NOT make in specific reference to the public
> > > > > option.]"
> > > > 
> > > > It's good to know Judy isn't partial when it comes to
> > > > calling someone out for fudging the facts or fanciful
> > > > thinking. I'll admit to putting a little spin on Obama's
> > > > wiggle out of Stephanopoulos trying to press him that
> > > > paying a penalty for mandated insurance is a tax.
> > > > Instead of owing up to the fact that such a penalty is
> > > > a tax, Obama shifted the focus of the conversation
> > > > saying that people who don't buy into it places a burden
> > > > on the rest of us. It pissed me off. IMO the burden on
> > > > all of us won't be the people who don't buy mandated
> > > > insurance. The real burden on all of us will be mandated
> > > > insurance without a public option that allows EVERYONE
> > > > to choose it. I'd like to see him wiggle out of a
> > > > question about a public option asking why it doesn't
> > > > include everyone. Would Stephanopoulos have confronted
> > > > this issue? Not a chance.
> > > 
> > > Totally agree. Obama did a whole lot of wiggling,
> > > based on that portion of the transcript (I didn't
> > > watch the video), and Steph tried to make himself
> > > look tough by quoting the dictionary definition
> > > of "tax," for pete's sake. Utterly useless.
> > >
> > 
> > George is tough like cookie dough, shaped, baked and panned. He expected to 
> > win favor playing patty cake with Obama and all he got for his 
> > Merriam-Webster due diligence was a well deserved bitch slapping. Useless, 
> > indeed.
> >
> Stephanopoulos, is like a little bitchy thing, a corporate ass-licker
> ...
> He is owned by ABC and Disney, and will only go, where his Corporate Masters, 
> say he can go...
> Else he will lose his position, like in a hot New York second...
> Faster then you can say, Bernie Madoff...
> Disney Corp., like all the other Big Corps...have a lot at stake in this 
> health care insurance thingy...
> It's worth, Billions of Dollars, steady dollars a month, forever...
> No wonder they want to muddy the water, as much as possible...instill as much 
> fear as possible...
> Kind of reminds me of the same war tactics that were used, in the run up to 
> the invasion of Iraq...
> 
> It's all about money...that's all it's about...
> The love of money...and the associated power, and feelings of superiority 
> that goes along with this psychology...
> 
> r.g.
>

What makes you think Obama isn't a corporate tool as well? Is he so special and 
blessed by the gods of power that he doesn't need to explain why everyone 
shouldn't have the public option if they want it? Instead of evading questions 
on TV trying to sell us a health reform pig, he could just have easily said, 
"Look, private health insurance and big pharma have screwed you for years and 
they will continue to do so unless we force them to compete with a public 
option that is available to anyone who wants it." 

Yep. It's all about the money. If he doesn't play along to get along 
insurance/big pharma will just fill the coffers of the Republicans. Meanwhile, 
corporate media continues to divide and conquer. FOX profits from inciting 
right wing anger about "government control of health care" and MSNBC, CNN, 
profits from bashing teabaggers and inciting left wing elitism. The last thing 
any corporate pol or pundit wants is for the right and left to discover that 
they have a common enemy, namely a propaganda machine that keeps them fighting 
and stupid about corporate control of their lives.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists more hated, distrusted than Muslims, homosexuals

2009-09-21 Thread Robert
 (snip)
 Humans are the only species capable of inter-tribal co-operation.  No 
other species on this planet do it.  If two groups of Chimps meet it's bloody 
and savage war.  If two herds of elephants meet they fight till one group 
chases away the other.
>(snip)

So, what about the 'Reich Wing Christian Chimps...
How does one get along with those chimps?

How can you relate with these chimps...that play with their own feces...

R.G.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Vile: vegetable ONLY in the EYE of the beholder

2009-09-21 Thread WLeed3


 
In a message dated 9/21/2009 12:03:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
shempmcg...@netscape.net writes:










[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists more hated, distrusted than Muslims, homosexuals

2009-09-21 Thread Jason
  I think I had an argument about religion with BillyG.  I came across an 
article in which Sociologists tried to figure out the purpose of religion.  
I'll post it later.

  Scientists say that the evolutionary purpose of religion is to promote 
inter-tribal co-operation.  A standardised set of beliefs, a standardised set 
of rituals, customs etc etc, Cooperation between tribes becomes possible over 
vast geographical distances.

  Humans are the only species capable of inter-tribal co-operation.  No 
other species on this planet do it.  If two groups of Chimps meet it's bloody 
and savage war.  If two herds of elephants meet they fight till one group 
chases away the other.

  Most tribes on earth started gravitating towards a major religion because 
they figured out that they could survive better, with better cooperation with 
other tribes


--- On Sun, 9/20/09, TurquoiseB  wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists more hated, distrusted than Muslims, 
homosexuals
Date: Sunday, September 20, 2009, 10:30 AM

 
So you're sayin' that a potential employee has
a right to believe in something that you don't
as long as he keeps it in the closet, and never
puts it in your face where you have to deal 
with it, as if he believed something different 
than you believe. 

White of you.

If you meant something else, please explain.
 
 
--- "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
 
> And if a religious person who places the belief in God above all others wants 
> to reject a person because of his atheism, should he not be alowed to do so?
> 
> Of course, if an atheist wants to conceal his atheistic beliefs from a 
> potential employer, he should have the right to do so.
> 
> Note that philosophical beliefs is NOT a prohibited basis of discrimination 
> in most charter of rights. "Religion" is but that applies more to the outward 
> expressions of religious belief (ie, wearing a yarmulke or hajib) than it is 
> to what one's inner beliefs are (which one can't discern by looking at 
> someone).