[FairfieldLife] Re: Police report gives first details of Arizona sweat lodge deaths

2010-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eustace10679 no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  James Arthur Ray has, as far as I can tell from the Web, a
  total of *zero* credentials as a spiritual guide or teacher.
  The only things he had going for him is a belief in the Laws
  Of Attraction (If I just want something bad enough I'll get
  it.), a few badly-written books, and enough charisma to land
  him on Oprah and Larry King.
  
  And yet for many of his followers, that was *enough*. Charisma
  was *enough* for them to pay this guys thousands of dollars
  and put their total faith in him. Charisma was *enough* for
  them to literally DIE for him.
  
  The real story in all of this for me, however, is not James
  Arthur Ray and his ability to inspire faith. It is the sad
  nature *of* that faith in his followers. They chose to believe
  in that faith rather than pay attention to common sense and
  their own bodies, which were telling them that they were about
  to DIE. And many of them *continue* to believe in the faith
  rather than testify against this charlatan.
  
  Many of the people sitting in that sweat lodge that he would
  not allow them to leave disregarded the feedback of *their own
  bodies* telling them that they were dying. They chose to
  believe him instead. *Afterwards*, with several of them
  actually dead, they chose to *still* believe in their faith in
  this guy rather than accept a more difficult set of truths.
  ...
 
 According to my way of looking at things, what you are describing is the 
 third and final stage of the phase of (Piaget's) Formal Operations. The fist 
 stage, physical, is that of the Super Hero. The second, emotional, is that of 
 Eternal Love. The third, intellectual, is that of Absolute Truth. Then come 
 the already being studied Post-Formal Operations, and I would label their 
 first stage as that of Social Justice, which in our times represent maturity.
 
 Many people attracted to the TMO and similar movements seem stuck to this 
 phase. On the other hand, there are of course those of us who base our 
 allegiance to TM on our experiences, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone 
 of Ray's followers judged him according to beneficial effects that he had 
 experienced.
 
 An important positive point to MMY's credit is that he avoided any serious 
 scandals, or worse, that have plagued most other gurus etc. MMY did make 
 moves that seem intellectually indefensible, but on the other hand on the 
 whole on the practical, material level the TMO has done exceptionally well, 
 to say the least, much better than any other similar organizations. I used to 
 say that if I was MMY I would have done this or that thing differently, but 
 then I am not at all sure I would have as good results, in fact I am not sure 
 that I wouldn't have disastrous results, so as long as the TMO is doing 
 generally well I consider it wise not to judge, or at least to do so mildly.
 
 Thanks for reminding me the Shuvender Sem case. Not living in FF, I learned 
 of it some months after the event. After reading your post, I checked to web 
 to refresh my memory. And yes, there was a very important piece of 
 information that I had missed: the date it happened, 2004-03-01. Let me 
 explain why I consider this important:
 
 I arrived to the US on 1983-12-31. The highest point of FF, thus far, was the 
 Taste of Utopia assembly around that time. When, years later, I learned of 
 this coincidence I found it very interesting, though I am not absolute sure 
 what to make of it. I would say that, at least, the Taste of Utopia Assembly 
 in some way contributed and was related to my immigration.
 
 Monday, 2004-03-01 was arguably the lowest point of FF. Those days were in 
 many ways the lowest point of my life in the US. I was sick and for a few 
 days without money at all, and had to apply for Medicaid.
 
 I tend to consider both my (temporary) situation and the MUM event as due to 
 the same influences. I have consistently observed over the years that 
 significant events of my personal biography run peculiarly parallel to world 
 events. That weekend happened the coup against Aristede in Haiti, and this at 
 the time it gave some context for my predicament (though the main karmic 
 reason for it was strikingly clear to me at the time, and was related to 
 events that had happened long ago).
 
 According to Maharishi, the stabbing was an aspect of the violence we see 
 throughout society 
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharishi_University_of_Management_stabbing). I 
 would dare add that it was karmically related specifically to the Haiti coup 
 that had happened less than 48 hours earlier.
 
 Looking at the big picture and leaving aside, for the moment, the details, 
 wouldn't you agree that even with this black spot on its history, the TMO 
 still remains the bright exception to the checkered histories of similar 
 large scale organizations?


[FairfieldLife] Re: God is not the only G-word whose existence is doubted

2010-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 And my bet is that many of the female persuasion will become 
 uptight over this skeptical report, just as religious fanatics 
 become uptight when skeptics ask them to prove the existence of 
 God. And for the same reason. Just as the religious feel that 
 they deserve a God and that to question His/Her/Its existence 
 is heresy, women deserve their G-spots. The Big O is a divine 
 right, and finding the right button to create one is no less a 
 religious quest than the search for God.  :-)

Please note that my tongue-in-cheek introduction to
a news article I neither agreed with nor disagreed
with has proved completely true on FFL. Judging from
Message View, the only people to have reacted to the
article at all were women, protecting their belief
in something that science cannot find evidence of. 
Actually, protecting *three* things that science cannot
find evidence of, the second being their superiority
to men, and the third being their divine right to bear 
men a grudge because men don't need an imaginary set 
of special and hard-to-find nerve endings to have 
an orgasm.  :-)


 G-spot `may not exist', say scientists
 
 Researchers at King's College London claim there is no evidence for
 theexistence of the G-spot – supposedly a cluster of internal
 nerve endings –beyond a woman's imagination.
 
 Women may argue that having a G-spot is due to diet or exercise,
 but in fact it is virtually impossible to find real traits, said
 Tim Spector, professor of genetic epidemiology, who coauthored the
 research.
 This is by far the biggest study ever carried out and it shows
 fairly conclusively that the idea of a G-spot is subjective.
 They reached their conclusions after a survey of more than 1,800 British
 women, all of whom were pairs of identical or non-identical twins.
 
 Identical twins share all their genes, while non-identical pairs share
 50 per cent of theirs. If one identical twin reported having a G-spot
 then her sister was more likely to give the same answer
 
 But no such pattern emerged, suggesting the G-spot is a matter of the
 woman's subjective opinion.
 
 Andrea Burri, who led the research, said she was anxious to remove
 feelings of inadequacy or underachievement that might
 affect women who feared they lacked a G-spot.
 
 It is rather irresponsible to claim the existence of an entity that
 has never really been proven and pressurise women — and men,
 too, she said.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Etude No 2: Two Sins Of Dishonest Intellectuals

2010-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost...@... wrote:

 Well that sounds good. It's what I was saying.  Except 
 denialist v denier? Why not just sceptic? Why STICK to 
 this deny flavour? 

Because she's RIGHT, Richard. And you're WRONG!

Don't you *understand* that?

:-)

Seriously, as much fun as it is to read your side
of this silliness and see Judy's nitpicking and
use of word-analysis-as-weapon turned upon her so
successfully, it's worth pointing out that you are
in a No Win scenario here.

The mindset you are trying -- rather effectively,
in my opinion -- to counter is *not* AGW vs. some
kind of balanced skepticism, it's certainty vs.
the willingness to say I don't know.

Judy feels she has the absolute RIGHT to call anyone
who disagrees with her position a denier. They are
*not* just disagreeing with a large consensus of 
scientific speculation, they are disagreeing with
HER. And, by definition, she knows the TRUTH. So
to disagree with this TRUTH is to DENY it. Q.E.D.

That's most of the issue, in a nutshell.

The rest you'll see as 2010 unfolds. You think I'm
just joking about you having made Judy's Enemies'
List. I am not. I am merely reporting on clearly
observable trends, viewed over time. 

You have committed two unpardonable sins. First, you
disagreed with Judy Stein. That makes you a DENIER
of the TRUTH. Your bad.

Your *worse* bad is that you not only engaged her
over this issue, you whupped her butt good, *using
her own nitpicking and word-analysis techniques*
to do so. That makes you not only bad, but someone
she'll feel that she has to pursue and try to
get back at in the future. 

Think I'm kidding? Just watch and wait. 

You'll post something that has nothing whatsoever
to do either with her *or* anything she is remotely
interested in, and she'll follow up with a post
THAT HAS NO OTHER PURPOSE but to try to
discredit or demonize you and/or make you look
silly or lesser than she is. 

At this point this is not a prediction on my part;
it is a virtual certainty. I am merely describing
what she has done *dozens* of times over the years
to anyone who 1) dared to challenge her imagined
authority, and 2) whupped her authoritative
butt while doing so. You're toast.

If it amuses you to continue to participate in these
battles that Judy dreams up, believe me, you will
have lots of amusement ahead of you as she stalks you.
And, as I suggested, you have many other phases of 
this stalking to look forward to. The next, as azgrey
mentioned, will be her finding occasion to call you
a liar. The next phase after that is that she'll
make up some permutation of your name or screen name
that allows her to demonize and make fun of you 
merely by *mentioning* you. (Like do.rkflex)

And if you enjoy this stalking process, and enjoy
pointing out its real nature as effectively as you
have done already, more power to you. Me, I just 
finally found it -- and her -- too boring and 
repetitive to deal with any longer. If you do not,
don't worry...you'll have many years to enjoy it
all. History shows us that you'll have up to 16
years in which to enjoy it. :-)




[FairfieldLife] Mr Barry Wright - An Apology

2010-01-05 Thread PaliGap
In common with some other posters here on FFL I may 
have given the impression that Mr Barry White Esq of 
El Pedro Towers, Sitges is some kind of old pervert, 
fixated by babes in bikinis, incapable of toiling 
honestly for a decent day's pay, and spending far too 
much time with the wine, olives and donkeys between 
lengthy siestas. Specifically I may have given the 
impression that the series of shrill harangues 
directed his way by a certain New York pugilist may 
have been in many cases quite justified.

Phrases such as She may have a point there or You 
know she seems to reason in a quite dispassionate way 
and Her attention to minutiae sure forced him to give 
up there may have led readers to believe that I was 
unduly enamoured with the fairness and reasonableness 
of Ms Stein's approach to FFL and its little 
controversies.

I now realise, having gained some personal experience 
of the bricbats and character assasination endemic to 
the *reasoning* style of the diktat-issuer in 
question, that there was not a jot nor scintilla of 
truth in any of the above. I am happy to accept now Mr 
White's protestations viz. that her attacks on him had 
a lot more in common with the petulance and tantrums 
of Mr John McEnroe circa 1980 (also of New York 
funnily enough) than the subtle and finely drawn 
distinctions of Mr Ludwig Witggenstein, late of 30 
Accacia Gardens, Notty Ash, Cambridge.

I would like to apologise for any distress or 
confusion caused by my credulity and laziness and my 
tendency to write post after boring post rather than 
find out what's really going on.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr Barry Wright - An Apology

2010-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost...@... wrote:

 In common with some other posters here on FFL I may 
 have given the impression that Mr Barry White Esq of 
 El Pedro Towers, Sitges is some kind of old pervert, 
 fixated by babes in bikinis, incapable of toiling 
 honestly for a decent day's pay, and spending far too 
 much time with the wine, olives and donkeys between 
 lengthy siestas. 

First, to clear up things:
* It's Barry Wright, not Barry White. The latter
was somewhat larger than moi and possessed of a 
darker skin and deeper voice.
* I do occasionally toil for a decent day's pay.
Just not today.
* While I admit to being an old pervert and some-
what fixated on babes in bikinis when they cross
my path, I don't see anything particularly wrong
with that, or with you pointing it out.
* I do enjoy wine and olives, but have not seen
a donkey since arriving in Spain, and I just don't
*do* siestas of any length. I get by with a good
night's sleep, thank you.

 ...Specifically I may have given the 
 impression that the series of shrill harangues 
 directed his way by a certain New York pugilist may 
 have been in many cases quite justified.

 Phrases such as She may have a point there or You 
 know she seems to reason in a quite dispassionate way 
 and Her attention to minutiae sure forced him to give 
 up there may have led readers to believe that I was 
 unduly enamoured with the fairness and reasonableness 
 of Ms Stein's approach to FFL and its little 
 controversies.

For what it's worth, this old, bikini-fixated
pervert never thought that. I just thought you
were being honest. Besides, having seen the photo
she posted to FFL, I would never for a moment ever
have suspected you of being enamoured with any
aspect of Ms. Stein.

 I now realise, having gained some personal experience 
 of the bricbats and character assasination endemic to 
 the *reasoning* style of the diktat-issuer in 
 question, that there was not a jot nor scintilla of 
 truth in any of the above. I am happy to accept now Mr 
 White's protestations viz. that her attacks on him had 
 a lot more in common with the petulance and tantrums 
 of Mr John McEnroe circa 1980 (also of New York 
 funnily enough) than the subtle and finely drawn 
 distinctions of Mr Ludwig Witggenstein, late of 30 
 Accacia Gardens, Notty Ash, Cambridge.

The McEnroe analogy is apt. It's all about seeing
*everything* as an ego-battle, and throwing tantrums
when one loses one of those battles.

 I would like to apologise for any distress or 
 confusion caused by my credulity and laziness and my 
 tendency to write post after boring post rather than 
 find out what's really going on.

Been there, done that. There is a certain Tarbaby
quality to Ms. Stein, if you are familiar with that
Uncle Remus story. For a short while one can actually
enjoy poking at a big, amorphous lump of tar. It's
when you find that you can't get *away* from the big,
amorphous lump of tar that you realize you've been
suckered.

Punch away, and as effectively as you have this week.
But don't ever delude yourself that you can win.
You are fighting a Tarbaby who declares victory
as long as you are still stuck to it or interacting
with it.

P.S. I'm still curious as to what you thought I 
might have been doing with the donkeys.  :-)




[FairfieldLife] 'Avatar' arouses conservatives' ire

2010-01-05 Thread do.rflex

'Avatar' arouses conservatives' ire

Conservatives are blind to the 3-D blockbuster's charms

By Patrick Goldstein
  [avatar_movie_promo_screenshot]

It's no secret that Avatar has been stunningly successful on
nearly every front. The James Cameron-directed sci-fi epic is already
the fourth-highest-grossing film of all time, having earned more than $1
billion around the globe in less than three weeks of theatrical release.

The film also has garnered effusive praise from critics, who've been
planting its flag on a variety of critics Top 10 lists. The 3-D trip to
Pandora is also viewed as a veritable shoo-in for a best picture Oscar
nomination when the academy announces its nominees on Feb. 2.

But amid this avalanche of praise and popularity, guess who hates the
movie? America's prickly cadre of political conservatives.

For years, pundits and bloggers on the right have ceaselessly attacked
liberal Hollywood for being out of touch with rank and file moviegoers,
complaining that executives and filmmakers continue to make films that
have precious little resonance with Middle America.

They have reacted with scorn to such high-profile liberal political
advocacy films as Syriana, Milk, W., Religulous, Lions for
Lambs, Brokeback Mountain, In the Valley of Elah, Rendition and
Good Night, and Good Luck, saying that the movies' poor performances
at the box office were a clear sign of how thoroughly uninterested real
people were in the pet causes of showbiz progressives.

Of course, Avatar totally turns this theory on its head.

As a host of critics have noted, the film offers a blatantly
pro-environmental message; it portrays U.S. military contractors in a
decidedly negative light; and it clearly evokes the can't-we-all-get
along vibe of the 1960s counterculture.

These are all messages guaranteed to alienate everyday moviegoers, so
say the right-wing pundits -- and yet the film has been wholeheartedly
embraced by audiences everywhere, from Mississippi to Manhattan.

To say that the film has evoked a storm of ire on the right would be an
understatement.

Big Hollywood's John Nolte, one of my favorite outspoken right-wing film
essayists, blasted the film, calling it a sanctimonious thud of a movie
so infested with one-dimensional characters and PC cliches that not a
single plot turn, large or small, surprises. . . . Think of 'Avatar' as
'Death Wish' for leftists, a simplistic, revisionist revenge fantasy
where if you . . . hate the bad guys (America) you're able to forgive
the by-the-numbers predictability of it all.

John Podhoretz, the Weekly Standard's film critic, called the film
blitheringly stupid; indeed, it's among the dumbest movies I've ever
seen. He goes on to say: You're going to hear a lot over the next
couple of weeks about the movie's politics -- about how it's a Green
epic about despoiling the environment, and an attack on the war in Iraq.
. . . The conclusion does ask the audience to root for the defeat of
American soldiers at the hands of an insurgency.

So it is a deep expression of anti-Americanism -- kind of. The thing is,
one would be giving Jim Cameron too much credit to take 'Avatar' -- with
its . . . hatred of the military and American institutions and the
notion that to be human is just way uncool -- at all seriously as a
political document. It's more interesting as an example of how deeply
rooted these standard issue counterculture cliches in Hollywood have
become by now.

Ross Douthat, writing in the New York Times, took Cameron to task on
another favorite conservative front, as yet another Hollywood filmmaker
who refuses to acknowledge the power of religion. Douthat calls Avatar
the Gospel according to James. But not the Christian Gospel. Instead,
'Avatar' is Cameron's long apologia for pantheism -- a faith that
equates God with Nature, and calls humanity into religious communion
with the natural world. Douthat contends that societies close to
nature, like the Na'vi in Avatar, aren't shining Edens at all --
they're places where existence tends to be nasty, brutish and short.

There are tons of other grumpy conservative broadsides against the film,
but I'll spare you the details, except to say that Cameron's grand
cinematic fantasy, with its mixture of social comment, mysticism and
transcendent, fanboy-style video game animation, seems to have hit a
very raw nerve with political conservatives, who view everything --
foreign affairs, global warming, the White House Christmas tree --
through the prism of partisan sloganeering.

But why is it doing so well with everyday moviegoers if it's so full of
supposedly buzz-killing liberal messages?

It has the politics of the left, but it also has extraordinary
spectacle, says Govindini Murty, co-founder of the pioneering
conservative blog Libertas and executive producer of the new
conservative film Kalifornistan.

Jim Cameron didn't come out of nowhere. He came on the heels of all the
left-wing filmmakers who went before him, who knew 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Avatar' arouses conservatives' ire

2010-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
As I mentioned earlier, in one of my first raves
about AVATAR, I find it a fascinating coincidence
that a man and a woman who used to be married both
find their films nominated for Best Film Of The 
Year, and for films with a similar theme.

Kathryn Bigelow's The Hurt Locker has so far
garnered more nominations (29, as opposed to four
for AVATAR) and actual wins (27 compared to 0 for
AVATAR so far, and from prestigious Critics' 
organizations, as opposed to fluff awards like
the Oscars). 

Both films deal IMO with addiction. Addiction to
war, addiction to a predatory and imperialist life-
style, addiction to just taking whatever the fuck
you want because you can. Bigelow's main character 
succumbs to this addiction and actual re-ups for 
another tour of duty pursuing this agenda. That is 
probably why conservatives don't find her film as 
threatening, even though it clearly shows the dark 
side of Iraq and America's imperialist wars.

Cameron's hero is more threatening because not only
does Jake not re-up, he turns traitor and fights
*against* this mindset and this lifestyle. In a normal
year, this might go against him in the Oscars, which
are voted on after all by people who may pose as 
liberals but who couldn't be more attached to the
status quo and the preservation of it if they tried.

But I don't think it'll go against him this year. By
the time the Academy Awards have rolled around, 
AVATAR will have made 2 billion bucks. That cannot
be ignored. As the article points out, that it does
this by presenting a Sixties can't-we-all-get-along
treehugger vision as *preferable* to the let's-rape-
the-planet-as-long-as-we-can mentality is something
else that cannot be ignored. 

Shemp will HATE AVATAR. He'll be sitting there in
the theater trying to admire the film for *nothing
more meaningful than making a shitload of money*
and find himself sitting there watching the glori-
fication of everything he most hates in life. And
the presentation of most of the things he loves in
life as the Neanderthal Thinking they really are.

It should be interesting to hear his review when
he returns from having been so anxious to *present*
that Neanderthal Thinking that he fouled out on posts
rather than wait two more minutes so that he wouldn't.
THAT necessity to barge in dick first and try to
*dominate* is what AVATAR is about. THAT inability
to STOP barging in dick first and dominate is what
AVATAR is about.

It's only peripherally about the money. Only a money-
grubbing Neanderthal would see that as the important 
thing in the film.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 
 'Avatar' arouses conservatives' ire
 
 Conservatives are blind to the 3-D blockbuster's charms
 
 By Patrick Goldstein
   [avatar_movie_promo_screenshot]
 
 It's no secret that Avatar has been stunningly successful on
 nearly every front. The James Cameron-directed sci-fi epic is already
 the fourth-highest-grossing film of all time, having earned more than $1
 billion around the globe in less than three weeks of theatrical release.
 
 The film also has garnered effusive praise from critics, who've been
 planting its flag on a variety of critics Top 10 lists. The 3-D trip to
 Pandora is also viewed as a veritable shoo-in for a best picture Oscar
 nomination when the academy announces its nominees on Feb. 2.
 
 But amid this avalanche of praise and popularity, guess who hates the
 movie? America's prickly cadre of political conservatives.
 
 For years, pundits and bloggers on the right have ceaselessly attacked
 liberal Hollywood for being out of touch with rank and file moviegoers,
 complaining that executives and filmmakers continue to make films that
 have precious little resonance with Middle America.
 
 They have reacted with scorn to such high-profile liberal political
 advocacy films as Syriana, Milk, W., Religulous, Lions for
 Lambs, Brokeback Mountain, In the Valley of Elah, Rendition and
 Good Night, and Good Luck, saying that the movies' poor performances
 at the box office were a clear sign of how thoroughly uninterested real
 people were in the pet causes of showbiz progressives.
 
 Of course, Avatar totally turns this theory on its head.
 
 As a host of critics have noted, the film offers a blatantly
 pro-environmental message; it portrays U.S. military contractors in a
 decidedly negative light; and it clearly evokes the can't-we-all-get
 along vibe of the 1960s counterculture.
 
 These are all messages guaranteed to alienate everyday moviegoers, so
 say the right-wing pundits -- and yet the film has been wholeheartedly
 embraced by audiences everywhere, from Mississippi to Manhattan.
 
 To say that the film has evoked a storm of ire on the right would be an
 understatement.
 
 Big Hollywood's John Nolte, one of my favorite outspoken right-wing film
 essayists, blasted the film, calling it a sanctimonious thud of a movie
 so infested with one-dimensional characters and PC cliches that not a
 single plot 

[FairfieldLife] Buddhists to Brit Hume: We forgive you

2010-01-05 Thread do.rflex

Buddhists to Brit Hume: We forgive you

  [This particular peaceful Buddha statue is part of the decor at
Buddakan, a restaurant in Philadelphia. ] 
http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/faith-and-reason/2010/01\
/04/buddhax-large.jpg This particular peaceful Buddha statue is part of
the decor at Buddakan, a restaurant in Philadelphia. CAPTIONBy B.
KristUSA TODAY - Ex-Fox newsman Brit Hume is getting a drubbing -- a
gentle, peaceful drubbing -- on the blogs today from Buddhists who take
issue with his slam on their beliefs.
In case you missed it, Hume called on Tiger Woods to turn away from
Buddhism
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2010/01/fox-news-\
tiger-woods-brit-hume-forgiveness-evangelical/1?loc=interstitialskip 
toward Christianity for forgiveness and a chance to rehabilitate his
reputation in the world -- as if conversion were a
get-out-of-scandal-jail free pass.

Webmonkees tweeted:  It is less useful to contemplate the hypocrisy of
Fox News, as collecting the dew from beneath each grain of sand.

Kyle Lovett, blogging as The Reformed Buddhist, writes
http://www.thereformedbuddhist.com/2010/01/brit-hume-speaks-out-against\
-buddhist.html :

Could Hume get away with saying something like this about Jewish people
or Black People or the Muslim Faith? You betcha he couldn't. Why should
he be able to skate away scott free when speaking about Buddhists?

Buddhist and journalist Barbara Hoetsu O'Brien gets down to dharma. She
writes
http://buddhism.about.com/b/2010/01/04/lets-forgive-brit-hume.htm :

I don't like to point out others' faults, but given the record I would
think Christians would show a little more humility about offering advice
to the sexually wayward. As Jesus once said, let those who have never
sinned throw the first stones (John 8:7).

However, Mr. Hume is right, in a sense, that Buddhism doesn't offer
redemption and forgiveness in the same way Christianity does. Buddhism
has no concept of sin; therefore, redemption and forgiveness in the
Christian sense is meaningless in Buddhism. Forgiveness is important,
but it is approached differently in Buddhism...

She points out:

... the practice of metta, loving kindness, is essential in Buddhism.
Metta is extended to all beings, including those who have wronged us --
even Brit Hume -- and also to ourselves.

For a step by step on forgiveness, Buddhism style
http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/forgiveness.htm , see Buddhanet's
basics which counsels:

Have forgiveness in your heart for anything you think you've done wrong
. Forgive yourself for all the past omissions and commissions. They are
long gone. Understand that you were a different person and this one is
forgiving that one that you were. Feel that forgiveness filling you and
enveloping you with a sense of warmth and ease.
http://snipurl.com/tyzq9   [content_usatoday_com]





[FairfieldLife] Re: Etude No 2: Two Sins Of Dishonest Intellectuals

2010-01-05 Thread m 13
*picks up sticksstones*
*click**kachink*(locks them away so you guys can't throw them at each other 
anymore
 
-Have to protect everyone's luminous fields to prevent illness.
There doesn't have to be suffering in the world.
 
Now go play nice , now, kids


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists to Brit Hume: We forgive you

2010-01-05 Thread dhamiltony2k5


 
 She points out:
 
 ... the practice of metta, loving kindness, is essential in Buddhism.
 Metta is extended to all beings, including those who have wronged us --
 even Brit Hume -- and also to ourselves.
 
 For a step by step on forgiveness, Buddhism style
 http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/forgiveness.htm , see Buddhanet's
 basics which counsels:
 
 Have forgiveness in your heart for anything you think you've done wrong
 . Forgive yourself for all the past omissions and commissions. They are
 long gone. Understand that you were a different person and this one is
 forgiving that one that you were. Feel that forgiveness filling you and
 enveloping you with a sense of warmth and ease.



Om yes,  too these anti-meditation people and non-meditators lurking here who 
should know better could begin right now on their own forgiveness by coming 
along back to meditation as the way of civic and purposeful life.  There is 
great forgiveness in nature, so the science says; forgiveness as something 
useful for yourself and those around you, come to meditation.

Jai Adi Shankara,
-D in FF




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Avatar' arouses conservatives' ire

2010-01-05 Thread Vaj


On Jan 5, 2010, at 8:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


Shemp will HATE AVATAR. He'll be sitting there in
the theater trying to admire the film for *nothing
more meaningful than making a shitload of money*
and find himself sitting there watching the glori-
fication of everything he most hates in life. And
the presentation of most of the things he loves in
life as the Neanderthal Thinking they really are.



I think Shemp will not only hate it, he'll spew a number of hate  
mails on it, like he does to those who are pro-environment. Deep  
inside it will work on his cognitive dissonance with his latent  
Vedic programming. So much of what the N'Avi are into is Maharishi  
Vedic living. And he despises that too.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank God It's Monday!!!

2010-01-05 Thread WillyTex


Bhairitu wrote:
 I often work through the weekends and 
 do errands during the week.  Of course 
 during the holidays that doesn't work 
 so well...

But, I'm NOT in favor of working on the
weekends, that's party time! But, if 
you're self-employed, there are no 
'weekends' - that's my point. There are 
no 'holidays. Holidays are for salaried 
and hourly workers.

Most people get the weekend off, and they
get paid for holidays too. We don't have 
to work all the time like you self-employed
types. 

I run my errands on the way home from work 
and I get over 23 days of paid time off 
for holidays where I work. So, I love 
Mondays because I'm getting paid the big 
bucks! 

And I like making good money, self-employed
people have to work their asses off all
the time. Quite often this turns out to be 
as low as $10.00 per hour! Who wants to 
work 24/7 just to make ends meet? 

And, the self-employed have to pay double
FICA taxes, and they have to buy their own 
health insurance, and they have to provide 
for their own retirement benefits. It's not 
very attractive employment, in my opinion.



[FairfieldLife] Executive Order: Interpol granted full immunity in US

2010-01-05 Thread It's just a ride
Now we have an international police force operating in the US not
subject to US laws.


http://biggovernment.com/2010/01/01/executive-order-international-police-granted-full-immunity-in-us-and-not-subject-to-foia-requests/

or

http://tinyurl.com/yax9o4a


[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Avatar' arouses conservatives' ire

2010-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:
 
 'Avatar' arouses conservatives' ire
 
 Conservatives are blind to the 3-D blockbuster's charms
 
 By Patrick Goldstein

It's interesting that Mr. Goldstein doesn't seem to have
picked up on the outrage of many *liberals* at what they
perceive as the film's distinctly racist undertones. (Some
have also suggested that it's sexist and has a bad 
attitude toward the disabled. One blogger insisted the
film wasn't anti-military, it was anti-*mercenary*,
pointing out that other films of Cameron's--Aliens and
The Abyss-- have actually exalted the regular military.)

I thought I remembered someone here mentioning the racist
aspect--Shemp, perhaps--but I can't locate the post.

Anyway, here's a few examples (among many) of criticism
from the left:

http://lefarkins.blogspot.com/2009/12/intentions-be-damned-avatar-is-racist.html
http://tinyurl.com/yer2mb5

http://lefarkins.blogspot.com/2009/12/more-on-race-and-racialism-in-avatar.html
http://tinyurl.com/yhswhed

http://globalshift.org/2009/12/dances-with-discrimination-on-avatar-racism-misogyny-and-disabled-prejudice/#more-3534
http://tinyurl.com/yf3mefk

http://gawker.com/5422666/when-will-white-people-stop-making-movies-like-avatar
http://tinyurl.com/ybshwoy

CAVEAT FOR THE FEEBLE-MINDED: Barry will, of course, rush
to claim I'm reviewing a movie I haven't seen. Those with
a few brain cells to rub together, however, will note that
I have not expressed an opinion. I just find it curious
that Mr. Goldstein seems to be aware only of criticism of
the film from the right.
 



[FairfieldLife] Re: God is not the only G-word whose existence is doubted

2010-01-05 Thread WillyTex


TurquoiseB wrote:
 And my bet is that many of the female 
 persuasion will become uptight

How much would you be willing to wager?

 over this skeptical report, just as 
 religious fanatics become uptight when 
 skeptics ask them to prove the existence 
 of God...

But, you're getting ahead of yourself: You
didn't explain why you believe individuals
have a 'Self' or 'self' - a 'Soul' and a
'soul-monad'. You didn't provide any sense
evidence, or even logical sense, as to why
you have this religious belief. 

Is there any empirical or scientific evidence 
to support the existence of a metaphysical 
'soul theory' or a 'Over-Soul'? If there is
a a Supreme Over-soul, then, it must be an
intelligent agent, right? 

It doesn't even make any sense: if each 
individual possesses a soul-monad, then 
there must be billions of soul-monads in 
existence. If there are billions of souls,
then there must be billions of Souls too.

It's much easier to believe that there is 
only One Ultimate Reality, not many. It 
just makes more sense. It's not logical
to believe there are many individual souls,
and multiple realities.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank God It's Monday!!!

2010-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:

 Bhairitu wrote:
  I often work through the weekends and 
  do errands during the week.  Of course 
  during the holidays that doesn't work 
  so well...
 
 But, I'm NOT in favor of working on the
 weekends, that's party time! But, if 
 you're self-employed, there are no 
 'weekends' - that's my point. There are 
 no 'holidays. Holidays are for salaried 
 and hourly workers.
 
 Most people get the weekend off, and they
 get paid for holidays too. We don't have 
 to work all the time like you self-employed
 types. 
 
 I run my errands on the way home from work 
 and I get over 23 days of paid time off 
 for holidays where I work. So, I love 
 Mondays because I'm getting paid the big 
 bucks! 
 
 And I like making good money, self-employed
 people have to work their asses off all
 the time. Quite often this turns out to be 
 as low as $10.00 per hour! Who wants to 
 work 24/7 just to make ends meet?

FWIW, I work fewer hours and make significantly
more as a freelance editor than I did back when
I was a 9-to-5er.

 And, the self-employed have to pay double
 FICA taxes, and they have to buy their own 
 health insurance, and they have to provide 
 for their own retirement benefits.

On the other hand, they don't have to pay for
transportation costs or meals out or office-
type clothing, and they can charge whatever
they choose for their services (assuming
they're good at what they do).

 It's not 
 very attractive employment, in my opinion.

And they get to set their own schedule. They
aren't slaves to the alarm clock, can take
breaks and have party time whenever they want.
Plus which, they're not under the thumb of a
boss. If they don't enjoy working for a
particular client, they can fire the client.
They're far more in control of their own lives
and have a lot less stress to deal with.

I wonder if anybody has ever done a study 
comparing the mental health of 9-to-5ers vs.
those who work for themselves. I'd bet the
latter, on average, are far less likely to
need psychotherapy.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr Barry White - An Apology

2010-01-05 Thread dhamiltony2k5


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost...@... wrote:

 In common with some other posters here on FFL I may 
 have given the impression that Mr Barry White Esq of 
 El Pedro Towers, Sitges is some kind of old pervert, 
 fixated by babes in bikinis, incapable of toiling 
 honestly for a decent day's pay, and spending far too 
 much time with the wine, olives and donkeys between 
 lengthy siestas.

No apology evidently needed. 

No, the experience and evidence here is clear.
With this Barry White guy on the internet generally and here on FFL.

If only half of the science is good then it reads so pretty clear that people 
who work against meditation are enemies of us all.  Like this Barry White guy 
seems. For those of us who are disciplined meditators experienced in the 
spiritual work it is revealed simply as our experience and now clearly in the 
science.  Is quite conclusive, the nature of this guy.  

But if there is hindrance by enemies,
then we have the right to use violence in response. That's what we call jihad.
… not..acts of terrorism, 
simply reactions to what has been done by the enemies of  meditation.


This particular anti-meditation guy, who spends so much life around the 
internet fighting meditation, this Mr. Barry White Esq of El Pedro Towers, 
Sitges lives where?  Which flat exactly?  He's so a-social, he is not even on 
Facebook.   

Someone in the global community of conservative meditators needs pay a visit on 
this particular non-meditator.  He's particularly bad, who works so hard at 
inciting non-meditation and spiritual depravity.  Go help this guy see the 
light directly for all our good.   




[FairfieldLife] Re: God is not the only G-word whose existence is doubted

2010-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
 Please note that my tongue-in-cheek introduction to
 a news article I neither agreed with nor disagreed
 with has proved completely true on FFL. Judging from
 Message View, the only people to have reacted to the
 article at all were women, protecting their belief
 in something that science cannot find evidence of.

In fact (probably needless to say), what Barry has
seen in Message View does not support his claim. It
seems he's protecting his own beliefs in the face of
on-the-record evidence to the contrary.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Etude No 2: Two Sins Of Dishonest Intellectuals

2010-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
 Seriously, as much fun as it is to read your side
 of this silliness and see Judy's nitpicking and
 use of word-analysis-as-weapon turned upon her so
 successfully,

LOL! Translation: Barry hasn't read my responses.

 it's worth pointing out that you are
 in a No Win scenario here.
 
 The mindset you are trying -- rather effectively,
 in my opinion -- to counter is *not* AGW vs. some
 kind of balanced skepticism, it's certainty vs.
 the willingness to say I don't know.

Er, no. Nobody's certain about AGW. The issue is
what, if anything, to do about the *possibility*.

 Judy feels she has the absolute RIGHT to call anyone
 who disagrees with her position a denier.

Just as PaliGap feels he has the absolute RIGHT to
call anyone who disagrees with his position an
alarmist.

snip
 The rest you'll see as 2010 unfolds. You think I'm
 just joking about you having made Judy's Enemies'
 List. I am not. I am merely reporting on clearly
 observable trends, viewed over time.

Enemies lists are Barry's stock in trade, not mine.
I'm pretty sure I'm distinctly on PaliGap's enemies
list now, though. Certainly that's what Barry is
doing his best to bring about. He needs the allies.

 You have committed two unpardonable sins. First, you
 disagreed with Judy Stein. That makes you a DENIER
 of the TRUTH. Your bad.

Er, no. His badness has to do with not arguing in
good faith.

 Your *worse* bad is that you not only engaged her
 over this issue, you whupped her butt good, *using
 her own nitpicking and word-analysis techniques*
 to do so.

belly laugh

 That makes you not only bad, but someone
 she'll feel that she has to pursue and try to
 get back at in the future. 
 
 Think I'm kidding? Just watch and wait. 
 
 You'll post something that has nothing whatsoever
 to do either with her *or* anything she is remotely
 interested in, and she'll follow up with a post
 THAT HAS NO OTHER PURPOSE but to try to
 discredit or demonize you and/or make you look
 silly or lesser than she is.

Translation: I do this to Barry because he's an
obnoxious, ignorant, vicious, toxic liar, and he
just hates being made to look silly and lesser
than I am (his phrase and perception, not mine).

PaliGap isn't a liar, he's not ignorant, he isn't
vicious or toxic or obnoxious.

 At this point this is not a prediction on my part;
 it is a virtual certainty. I am merely describing
 what she has done *dozens* of times over the years
 to anyone

Translation: To Barry...

 who 1) dared to challenge her imagined
 authority, and 2) whupped her authoritative
 butt while doing so.

snicker

 You're toast.
 
 If it amuses you to continue to participate in these
 battles that Judy dreams up, believe me, you will
 have lots of amusement ahead of you as she stalks you.
 And, as I suggested, you have many other phases of 
 this stalking to look forward to. The next, as azgrey
 mentioned, will be her finding occasion to call you
 a liar.

He'll have to actually lie first.

 The next phase after that is that she'll
 make up some permutation of your name or screen name
 that allows her to demonize and make fun of you 
 merely by *mentioning* you. (Like do.rkflex)

Translation: As Barry knows, the do.rk is the only
person I've ever done that to, but Barry hopes he can
mislead PaliGap to believe it's something I do often.

 And if you enjoy this stalking process, and enjoy
 pointing out its real nature as effectively as you
 have done already, more power to you. Me, I just 
 finally found it -- and her -- too boring and 
 repetitive to deal with any longer.

Translation: Since Barry has always come out on the
wrong end of his attempts to slander me (and other
people he doesn't like), he's convinced himself it's
somehow more noble to stick his tongue out and fire his 
poorly aimed spitballs from a safe distance, then
pretend he's taken himself hors de combat.




[FairfieldLife] Re: God is not the only G-word whose existence is doubted

2010-01-05 Thread WillyTex


  Please note that my tongue-in-cheek introduction to
  a news article I neither agreed with nor disagreed
  with has proved completely true on FFL. Judging from
  Message View, the only people to have reacted to the
  article at all were women, protecting their belief
  in something that science cannot find evidence of.
 
Judy wrote:
 In fact (probably needless to say), what Barry has
 seen in Message View does not support his claim. It
 seems he's protecting his own beliefs in the face of
 on-the-record evidence to the contrary.

Yeah, I guess it's pretty obvious by now that Barry 
can't read, and that he belives in a 'Self' and a 'self'. 
What's unclear is how much he'd be willing to wager.

It's just the belief that self is something *different* 
than Self that I don't buy 

FairfieldLife/message/237892



[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr Barry Wright - An Apology

2010-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost...@... wrote:

 In common with some other posters here on FFL I may 
 have given the impression that Mr Barry White Esq of 
 El Pedro Towers, Sitges is some kind of old pervert, 
 fixated by babes in bikinis, incapable of toiling 
 honestly for a decent day's pay, and spending far too 
 much time with the wine, olives and donkeys between 
 lengthy siestas. Specifically I may have given the 
 impression that the series of shrill harangues 
 directed his way by a certain New York pugilist

New Jersey, actually.

 may 
 have been in many cases quite justified.
 
 Phrases such as She may have a point there or You 
 know she seems to reason in a quite dispassionate way 
 and Her attention to minutiae sure forced him to give 
 up there may have led readers to believe that I was 
 unduly enamoured with the fairness and reasonableness 
 of Ms Stein's approach to FFL and its little 
 controversies.
 
 I now realise, having gained some personal experience 
 of the bricbats and character assasination endemic to 
 the *reasoning* style of the diktat-issuer in 
 question, that there was not a jot nor scintilla of 
 truth in any of the above.

Translation: The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

cackle

 I am happy to accept now Mr 
 White's protestations viz. that her attacks on him had 
 a lot more in common with the petulance and tantrums 
 of Mr John McEnroe circa 1980 (also of New York 
 funnily enough) than the subtle and finely drawn 
 distinctions of Mr Ludwig Witggenstein, late of 30 
 Accacia Gardens, Notty Ash, Cambridge.
 
 I would like to apologise for any distress or 
 confusion caused by my credulity and laziness and my 
 tendency to write post after boring post rather than 
 find out what's really going on.

Translation: Because I disagree with her charge
that I have been intellectually dishonest (even
though I haven't been able to rebut it and have
resorted to trying to make *her* appear
intellectually dishonest to distract attention
from my failure), I now feel entirely justified
in declaring that *no* charge of hers against
*anybody* (but particularly Barry, because he
seems to want to defend me by attacking her) has
ever had the slightest iota of merit. (There! If
that isn't intellectual honesty, I don't know
what is.)

Um...exactly.




[FairfieldLife] Scoop: James Cameron's original 1-page concept for AVATAR

2010-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
SPOILER WARNING: Although this is just a treatment or an exploratory
take on the concept, it *does* basically describe the plot. So don't
read it if you haven't seen the movie and want to see it with your
innocence preserved. If you have seen it, though, read this and laugh
your ass off:

  [height: 722px;]



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thank God It's Monday!!!

2010-01-05 Thread Bhairitu
WillyTex wrote:
 Bhairitu wrote:
   
 I often work through the weekends and 
 do errands during the week.  Of course 
 during the holidays that doesn't work 
 so well...

 
 But, I'm NOT in favor of working on the
 weekends, that's party time! But, if 
 you're self-employed, there are no 
 'weekends' - that's my point. There are 
 no 'holidays. Holidays are for salaried 
 and hourly workers.
   

If I want to take the weekend off I can do that too.  My work is 
interesting so I might want to work on it some on the weekend.  Holidays 
aren't for exempts?   Being from Texas or never having an exempt job 
you may not know what that means though it may be called the same in 
Texas.  That means an employee who is paid x amount of dollars per 
year.  They are not hourly workers.  They don't get overtime (but often 
get bonuses).   They don't necessarily have to be there when the clock 
is running either.  An exempt usually what middle and upper level 
manager is.  But also production people may be exempts too.  There is 
a bit of controversy over this because some companies made exempts work 
longer hours.  But most just were concerned with whether the job got 
done or not and if you could somehow manage to do that even in just 8 
hours a week that would be okay.
 Most people get the weekend off, and they
 get paid for holidays too. We don't have 
 to work all the time like you self-employed
 types. 
   

We don't have to work all the time.  The joke is on you.  A contract 
might run several months and pay two yeas of living expenses.  Plenty of 
free time.  Eat your heart out.
 I run my errands on the way home from work 
 and I get over 23 days of paid time off 
 for holidays where I work. So, I love 
 Mondays because I'm getting paid the big 
 bucks! 
   

Let's see my commute is from my bedroom to the computer room across the 
hall.  Now what kind of big bucks does a janitor make?

 And I like making good money, self-employed
 people have to work their asses off all
 the time. Quite often this turns out to be 
 as low as $10.00 per hour! Who wants to 
 work 24/7 just to make ends meet? 
   

Not everybody can be self employed or work at home.  I had problems 
managing some employees who were trying to work at home and they had to 
be brought in house.  You have to have good self discipline.
 And, the self-employed have to pay double
 FICA taxes, and they have to buy their own 
 health insurance, and they have to provide 
 for their own retirement benefits. It's not 
 very attractive employment, in my opinion.

When I worked at a company I had to provide for my own retirement 
benefits.  It was called a 401K.   I maxed it out every year.  I also 
have a SEP-IRA as a contractor even before I worked in house.  It has 
done fairly well in spite of the economy, thank you very much.And 
your employer had to match your FICA otherwise they could have payed you 
that extra. 

You need to get some smarts, Willy.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Avatar' arouses conservatives' ire

2010-01-05 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote:

 On Jan 5, 2010, at 8:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

 Shemp will HATE AVATAR. He'll be sitting there in
 the theater trying to admire the film for *nothing
 more meaningful than making a shitload of money*
 and find himself sitting there watching the glori-
 fication of everything he most hates in life. And
 the presentation of most of the things he loves in
 life as the Neanderthal Thinking they really are.


 I think Shemp will not only hate it, he'll spew a number of hate mails 
 on it, like he does to those who are pro-environment. Deep inside it 
 will work on his cognitive dissonance with his latent Vedic 
 programming. So much of what the N'Avi are into is Maharishi Vedic 
 living. And he despises that too.

There's also a bit of tantra in the film too.  I saw it as sort of a 
space age Dances With Wolves with a bit of General Smedley Butler's 
War is a Racket mixed in.  Of course there will be one conservative 
who loves the film: Rupert Murdoch.



[FairfieldLife] Burning books for warmth!

2010-01-05 Thread cardemaister

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/807821-pensioners-burn-books-for-warmth

Volunteers have reported that ‘a large number’ of elderly customers are 
snapping up hardbacks as cheap fuel for their fires and stoves.

Temperatures this week are forecast to plummet as low as -13ºC in the Scottish 
Highlands, with the mercury falling to -6ºC in London, -5ºC in Birmingham and 
-7ºC in Manchester as one of the coldest winters in years continues to bite.

Workers at one charity shop in Swansea, in south Wales, described how the most 
vulnerable shoppers were seeking out thick books such as encyclopaedias for a 
few pence because they were cheaper than coal.

--





[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr Barry Wright - An Apology

2010-01-05 Thread PaliGap


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

[snip]

 Translation: Because I disagree with her charge
 that I have been intellectually dishonest (even
 though I haven't been able to rebut it and have
 resorted to trying to make *her* appear
 intellectually dishonest to distract attention
 from my failure), 

Entertaining. But false.

I don't think for a minute that I haven't been
able to rebut it. You do. I don't. 

What I think is known to me and not to you. But
you will say Ah, he would say that, dishonest
denier that he is. Do you see the circularity?

In a civilised discussion one should respect our
difference of opinion over whether or not I succeeded
in my rebuttal, or anything else for that matter 
(which doesn't preclude arguing forcefully for one's
own position). No one party gets the right to the
meta-level and the eye of God though.

Fallibilists usually find this easier to grasp 
than those afflicted by hubris.

As the great sage of Sitges so wisely and succinctly 
put it earlier today:

And, by definition, she knows the TRUTH. So
to disagree with this TRUTH is to DENY it. Q.E.D.



[FairfieldLife] Feral Cats in FF

2010-01-05 Thread Rick Archer
From: Janet Teeple [mailto:ja...@icon-art.org] 
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:53 AM
To: 'Bill Teeple'

We trap and spay/neuter cats that we feed. And have almost cleaned up the
areas we feed and hope to stop soon. CCNAP (469-2015) is a spay/neuter
program in Fairfield that can be almost free and IS free for very poor, when
funds are available which is most of the time. I am surprised more people
don't know about it. Perhaps others don't know this that are feeding, but
not
fixing them. February will be the next big spay/neuter time so vets and
ccnsnap usually offer specials. Check also with Noah's Ark (472-6080).

I don't think anyone is helping the cats, and they reproduce anyway and only
suffer more from neglect, abandonment, lack of shelter and mostly ignorance.
I say feed them but get them fixed. Noah's Ark is sympathetic and will
probably help.

Oh and by the way, some ferals are not feral at all, but abandoned pets that
have had to learn to survive and may seem quite angry in a trap or very
frightened. There is a way to tell when you trap them, but it takes some
experience. Some trappers dump ferals in the country, which is illegal and
cruel. Cats were domesticated animals by humans thousands of years ago and
are not meant to live in the wild. A normal house cat can live to be in
their 20's. A cat out on it's own, if it survives kittenhood and is lucky,
will only live a couple years due to the elements, disease, starvation, cat
fights, and other wild animals. 
JLT


[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank God It's Monday!!!

2010-01-05 Thread WillyTex


Bhairitu wrote:
 A contract might run several months and 
 pay two yeas of living expenses...

Maybe so, but it's scary going into business 
for yourself. Quite often it seems to be a 
'feast or famine' situation. 

I've got a small eBay business - maybe 
someday it will be my only job; until then, 
I've got to have a steady income - I'm not 
fond of being homeless! 

And I sure like the 23 days of paid holidays, 
the two weeks of paid vacation, two personal 
paid leave days, and the great health 
insurance!

So, I guess we're both lucky and happy.

Even Americans who are lucky enough to have 
work in this economy are becoming more unhappy 
with their jobs, according to a new survey 
that found only 45 percent of Americans are 
satisfied with their work...

Full story:

'Americans' job satisfaction falls to record low'
By Jeannine Aversa
Assiciated Press, January 5, 2010
http://tinyurl.com/y8taevt



[FairfieldLife] Re: Feral Cats in FF

2010-01-05 Thread do.rflex

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

 From: Janet Teeple [mailto:ja...@...]
 Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:53 AM
 To: 'Bill Teeple'

 We trap and spay/neuter cats that we feed. And have almost cleaned up
the
 areas we feed and hope to stop soon. CCNAP (469-2015) is a spay/neuter
 program in Fairfield that can be almost free and IS free for very
poor, when
 funds are available which is most of the time. I am surprised more
people
 don't know about it. Perhaps others don't know this that are feeding,
but
 not
 fixing them. February will be the next big spay/neuter time so vets
and
 ccnsnap usually offer specials. Check also with Noah's Ark (472-6080).

 I don't think anyone is helping the cats, and they reproduce anyway
and only
 suffer more from neglect, abandonment, lack of shelter and mostly
ignorance.
 I say feed them but get them fixed. Noah's Ark is sympathetic and will
 probably help.

 Oh and by the way, some ferals are not feral at all, but abandoned
pets that
 have had to learn to survive and may seem quite angry in a trap or
very
 frightened. There is a way to tell when you trap them, but it takes
some
 experience. Some trappers dump ferals in the country, which is illegal
and
 cruel. Cats were domesticated animals by humans thousands of years ago
and
 are not meant to live in the wild. A normal house cat can live to be
in
 their 20's. A cat out on it's own, if it survives kittenhood and is
lucky,
 will only live a couple years due to the elements, disease,
starvation, cat
 fights, and other wild animals.
 JLT



Happy Mew Year for Kitty Cats












Re: [FairfieldLife] To the friends of Chris Todd

2010-01-05 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:56 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
 Dear Friends of Chris Todd,
 Many of you know. But if not, it is my profoundly sad task to let you know 
 that our dear Chris left his body this past week to continue his eternal 
 journey.
Oh for crying out loud, another mood-making 
ninny tries to put a happy face on what was undoubtedly
a totally unnecessary death.
 But since this journey is into bliss and joy...
Excuse me while I throw up.
 our sadness is for ourselves, not for Chris. He was found in his kitchen with 
 a blissful look on his face. It seems his huge, generous heart  gave out, way 
 sooner than any of us can comprehend. It was just his time, and he told me 
 several times this summer that he didn’t care if he lived  long or not.
English translation:  he was having problems, but
none of his friends thought to recommend a doctor,
instead advising him to do Ayurveda or some other
such idiotic advice.
 Chris had returned to Fairfield for the winter and many commented that he 
 looked happier and healthier than they had ever seen him.
Except for the fact that now he's dead...
 He had completed a 9 month journey to hike, visit friends, explore his 
 various interests, and help me move to Iowa. He told me that he had a 
 profound sense of accomplishment, fulfillment and success, having completed 
 his goals for the year.
Yes, it was definitely his time.  I mean, once
you help someone move to Iowa, your work is done.
 He told people that he had lots of fun in his travels. On his return his 
 eyes were sparkling and he had a big smile whenever I saw him. We are all so 
 happy that he was so happy during his last months here. We should all be 
 happy for Chris, as he is now in a wonderful place.
For some reason being stuck in a box or urn in the
cold ground doesn't sound so wonderful, but maybe
that's just me.
 There will be a Memorial celebration of our dear Chris’s life on Saturday 
 Jan. 9 at 1:30 PM at  the Argiro Student Center at MUM. Please tell everyone 
 you know who knew Chris, as this message may not get to everyone.
 If you have pictures, information about Chris’s life and biography, or any 
 interesting, funny, or uplifting stories, please send them to   
 mgun...@gmail.com, or call me at 641-472-0449. If you would like to speak or 
 do a short reading, please let us know. Jane Schmidt-Wilk is in charge of 
 this event.
 Chris’s family has made scheduling sacrifices to allow this celebration to 
 take place after silence, so that as many people as possible can attend.
Guilt trip at the end--nice touch.
 Hoping to see you all there to remember our dear sweet friend!





[FairfieldLife] Re: Feral Cats in FF-Happy Mew Year!

2010-01-05 Thread m 13
Yes, Happy Mew Year
 
 
Oh that was so cute!
thanks...
 
-Meow


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr Barry Wright - An Apology

2010-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost...@... wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
  Translation: Because I disagree with her charge
  that I have been intellectually dishonest (even
  though I haven't been able to rebut it and have
  resorted to trying to make *her* appear
  intellectually dishonest to distract attention
  from my failure), 
 
 Entertaining. But false.
 
 I don't think for a minute that I haven't been
 able to rebut it. You do. I don't.

You haven't even *addressed* it:

===

 How so? How EXACTLY does the Nasrudin tale implicitly assert
 (whatever that means) that THAT THERE CAN *BE* NO
 EVIDENCE? Now that there... Yes, that WOULD be a thought
 stopper! Except that it does NOT entail or assert any
 such thing.

 There is a threat: Lions, Y2K, The end of the world, whatever.
 We do something: Scatter crumbs, spend billions, do some chants
 Time passes: No lions, no computer disaaster, no end of world

 If we just say see, we averted the disaster, The Nasrudin
 tale is reminding us about some missing steps: Evidence that
 the threat existed in the first place and that the measures we
 took fixed the problem. That's all. Nothing else. It does NOT
 say implicitly or explicitly that there can *be* no evidence
 (as you put it). If it did it would be crazy.

It's crazy as applied to Y2K or AGW. It's not crazy
in its original context because its *assumption* is
that the lions are imaginary and the crumbs completely
unnecessary. If it points to missing steps, it's to
imply that the steps are missing because the lions
and the protective power of crumbs were a fantasy to
start with.

How do we know this? Because the protective ritual
would never keep lions away. If the story had Nasrudin
circling his dwelling with bonfires, which *would*
keep lions away, you'd have a case.

The Nasrudin story is about patently irrational fears
and protective rituals. It's still a thought-stopper,
but what it stops is *irrational* thought. That's why
it's intellectually dishonest to use it as an argument
about Y2K or AGW.

===

You never responded to this. In your next post, you
started a new thread, and you began it this way:

Previously on this channel: Richard is charged with
*intellectual dishonesty* for deploying a Mullah
Nasrudin tale. Watch now as Richard gamely tries to
respond in kind by charging Judy with just that very
kind of thing.

Nothing about your Nasrudin ploy in that post.

 What I think is known to me and not to you. But
 you will say Ah, he would say that, dishonest
 denier that he is. Do you see the circularity?

Well, maybe you *fantasized* that you rebutted it.
Or maybe you rebutted it in your own mind and just
somehow forgot to put the rebuttal in a post.

I'm perfectly willing to give you the benefit of
the doubt about what you *think* you did. But the
*fact* is that you didn't, at least not in public.
You left it (along with everything else in that
post) on the table and changed the subject to *my*
purported intellectual dishonesty.

There were other instances of your intellectual
dishonesty that you failed to address and so did
not publicly rebut, but this is the one that started
the exchange about intellectual dishonesty, so
that's what I'm focusing on.

snip
 As the great sage of Sitges so wisely and succinctly 
 put it earlier today:
 
 And, by definition, she knows the TRUTH. So
 to disagree with this TRUTH is to DENY it. Q.E.D.

Like I said, The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

That's how Barry acquires friends: he makes a great
show of sympathy for those poor folks who haven't
done so well in an argument with me (or with anybody
else he doesn't like). Of course, he deliberately
misrepresents my behavior and positions, but these
sad souls are so desperate for approval and validation,
they don't care; disreputable support is better than
no support at all.

I dunno, man, seems to me Barry's the *last* person
that someone trying to get out from under a charge of
intellectual dishonesty would want taking their side.




[FairfieldLife] Underpants of mass destruction

2010-01-05 Thread do.rflex


The long, strange war on terror grows ever more surreal



By Tom Tomorrow http://www.salon.com/author/tom_tomorrow/index.html

  [This Modern World by Tom Tomorrow]

  http://www.salon.com/author/tom_tomorrow/index.html





  http://www.salon.com/author/tom_tomorrow/index.html




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Avatar' arouses conservatives' ire

2010-01-05 Thread Mike Dixon
Hey Bhairitu, did you also pick up on the scenes stolen from Last of the 
Mohicans? The scene in which they kill a deer and offer the prayer to release 
the soul and also the scene in which the Huron make the unwelcome guest run the 
gauntlet. Of course you have the story of Custer trying to drive the NA out of 
the Black Hills to steal gold and of course the battle of Little Big Horn. Come 
to think about it, was there anything original in that flick?  Of course the 
cloning of human and Navi comes from Jurasic Park. The scene in which the Na'vi 
are gathered around the sacred tree chanting, I think, was a rip off from the 
Star Wars film in which the *teddy bears* worshipped something or someone.


From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 9:24:17 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Avatar' arouses conservatives' ire

  
Vaj wrote:

 On Jan 5, 2010, at 8:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

 Shemp will HATE AVATAR. He'll be sitting there in
 the theater trying to admire the film for *nothing
 more meaningful than making a shitload of money*
 and find himself sitting there watching the glori-
 fication of everything he most hates in life. And
 the presentation of most of the things he loves in
 life as the Neanderthal Thinking they really are.


 I think Shemp will not only hate it, he'll spew a number of hate mails 
 on it, like he does to those who are pro-environment. Deep inside it 
 will work on his cognitive dissonance with his latent Vedic 
 programming. So much of what the N'Avi are into is Maharishi Vedic 
 living. And he despises that too.

There's also a bit of tantra in the film too. I saw it as sort of a 
space age Dances With Wolves with a bit of General Smedley Butler's 
War is a Racket mixed in. Of course there will be one conservative 
who loves the film: Rupert Murdoch.





  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Burning books for warmth!

2010-01-05 Thread Mike Dixon
Burning books is the perfect way to warm your canned dog food !





From: cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 9:29:08 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Burning books for warmth!

  

http://www.metro. co.uk/news/ 807821-pensioner s-burn-books- for-warmth

Volunteers have reported that ‘a large number’ of elderly customers are 
snapping up hardbacks as cheap fuel for their fires and stoves.

Temperatures this week are forecast to plummet as low as -13ºC in the Scottish 
Highlands, with the mercury falling to -6ºC in London, -5ºC in Birmingham and 
-7ºC in Manchester as one of the coldest winters in years continues to bite.

Workers at one charity shop in Swansea, in south Wales, described how the most 
vulnerable shoppers were seeking out thick books such as encyclopaedias for a 
few pence because they were cheaper than coal.

 --





  

[FairfieldLife] maharishisamadhi

2010-01-05 Thread michael
Maharishi Samadhi Smarak, 
memorial of Total Knowledge, 
completion date set for January 2011
 
http://maharishisamadhi.org/



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Avatar' arouses conservatives' ire

2010-01-05 Thread Bhairitu
I wasn't expecting Cameron to write anything very original so borrowing 
from other story lines was not off the table.  I think his objective was 
to create an extravaganza production to make beaucoup bucks and to try 
to push 3D even more (which may not work).   There are probably dozens 
or more storylines one could relate Avatar to.  War is a Racket 
stood out to a point that it suggests Cameron may have read it or at 
least heard about it though one could argue even Butler wasn't that 
original with the idea but just related it to his own experience.

If anything I hope it discourages young kids for signing up to the 
military for our imperialist wars.

Mike Dixon wrote:
 Hey Bhairitu, did you also pick up on the scenes stolen from Last of the 
 Mohicans? The scene in which they kill a deer and offer the prayer to release 
 the soul and also the scene in which the Huron make the unwelcome guest run 
 the gauntlet. Of course you have the story of Custer trying to drive the NA 
 out of the Black Hills to steal gold and of course the battle of Little Big 
 Horn. Come to think about it, was there anything original in that flick?  Of 
 course the cloning of human and Navi comes from Jurasic Park. The scene in 
 which the Na'vi are gathered around the sacred tree chanting, I think, was a 
 rip off from the Star Wars film in which the *teddy bears* worshipped 
 something or someone.

 
 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 9:24:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Avatar' arouses conservatives' ire

   
 Vaj wrote:
   
 On Jan 5, 2010, at 8:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

 
 Shemp will HATE AVATAR. He'll be sitting there in
 the theater trying to admire the film for *nothing
 more meaningful than making a shitload of money*
 and find himself sitting there watching the glori-
 fication of everything he most hates in life. And
 the presentation of most of the things he loves in
 life as the Neanderthal Thinking they really are.
   
 I think Shemp will not only hate it, he'll spew a number of hate mails 
 on it, like he does to those who are pro-environment. Deep inside it 
 will work on his cognitive dissonance with his latent Vedic 
 programming. So much of what the N'Avi are into is Maharishi Vedic 
 living. And he despises that too.
 

 There's also a bit of tantra in the film too. I saw it as sort of a 
 space age Dances With Wolves with a bit of General Smedley Butler's 
 War is a Racket mixed in. Of course there will be one conservative 
 who loves the film: Rupert Murdoch.





   
   



[FairfieldLife] Embarrassing possibilities of TSA's full body security scans

2010-01-05 Thread do.rflex







[FairfieldLife] Re: Underpants of mass destruction

2010-01-05 Thread WillyTex


Right-wingers want to know why the 
underpants bomber wasn't hauled off 
the plane and waterboarded!

'Right-wingers' aren't the only ones 
who want answers - lots of 'left-wingers' 
and moderate independents want to know 
why, in over eight years, the U.S. hasn't 
installed safety precautions to prevent 
another 9/11. 

Why is that, John? Why are U.S. passenger
aircraft still not safe from suicide
bombers after over eight years? Why, 
after over eight years, did Flight 253 
come to a 'near-catastrophic failure'
in every level of our government? 

Why didn't your Secretary of State revoke 
the bomber's visa? Why, John?

The terrorist plot to bring down 
Northwest Airlines Flight 253 exposed a 
near-catastrophic failure at every level 
of our government. - Barack Obama

http://tinyurl.com/yhj64te



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thank God It's Monday!!!

2010-01-05 Thread Bhairitu
WillyTex wrote:
 Bhairitu wrote:
   
 A contract might run several months and 
 pay two yeas of living expenses...

 
 Maybe so, but it's scary going into business 
 for yourself. Quite often it seems to be a 
 'feast or famine' situation. 

 I've got a small eBay business - maybe 
 someday it will be my only job; until then, 
 I've got to have a steady income - I'm not 
 fond of being homeless! 

 And I sure like the 23 days of paid holidays, 
 the two weeks of paid vacation, two personal 
 paid leave days, and the great health 
 insurance!

 So, I guess we're both lucky and happy.

 Even Americans who are lucky enough to have 
 work in this economy are becoming more unhappy 
 with their jobs, according to a new survey 
 that found only 45 percent of Americans are 
 satisfied with their work...

 Full story:

 'Americans' job satisfaction falls to record low'
 By Jeannine Aversa
 Assiciated Press, January 5, 2010
 http://tinyurl.com/y8taevt

When I went to work for a corporation that I had originally contracted I 
thought I would last about 2 weeks as a middle manager.  I lasted over 4 
years and quit on my own volition.  I figured I was so independent that 
I would run afoul of corporate rules.  Guess what, I was put in charge 
of many of those rules or what we had of them.  See it was a pretty 
hip corporation and looking back a little too democratic.  Being 
democratic may sound good but many employees aren't up to it and you 
can keep them out of trouble and meet deadlines by making things black 
and white.   Just make sure you let the employees know why you are 
making things black and white.

I quit the company because it was becoming too big and difficult to deal 
with.  There was a hint that I was going to be moved to upper management 
(from the CEO) but I left anyway.   A much bigger company bought them a 
few months later.  I was told by people remaining there I left at the 
right time.   However if I had stuck around I might still be working for 
the big company.  That is because that company was the one that was 
always trying to steal me away.

Most of my life I've been self-employed.  Musicians in general are 
self-employed unless you work for a band that actually has a business 
structure.  But in most cases you are a contract player.  That said at 
the company we hired a musician to be a music director and when asked 
why he took a full-time job he said he was tired of hunting after 
contracts.  And this guy wrote music for many TV jingles in the area and 
probably a few that were national.

In software development you kinda have to ride with punches.  Too bad 
our legislators didn't see things this way.  They would have known that 
boom times might be followed by busts.




[FairfieldLife] Re: To the friends of Chris Todd

2010-01-05 Thread WillyTex


Sal Sunshine wrote:
 Oh for crying out loud, another mood-making 
 ninny tries to put a happy face on what was 
 undoubtedly a totally unnecessary death.

Here lies Sal, an insensitive skank.

Rick Archer wrote:
  Dear Friends of Chris Todd, Many of you know. 
  But if not, it is my profoundly sad task to 
  let you know that our dear Chris left his 
  body this past week to continue his eternal 
  journey.
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank God It's Monday!!!

2010-01-05 Thread WillyTex


Bhairitu wrote:
 In software development you kinda have to 
 ride with punches. Too bad our legislators 
 didn't see things this way.  They would 
 have known that boom times might be followed 
 by busts...

Your legislators are trying to tax you out
of business. From what I've read, it's bad
times for small businesses in California. 

The entrepreneurs are moving out in droves.

So, I like working 8-5, M-F, with weekends off
- let the company take all the risks. I like 
all the benefits, and the direct deposit to my 
bank account. I'm not real big on taking risks 
with my income. I don't think I'd like being 
homeless - but, that's just me.

So, I love not only Mondays, but I love every 
single day of the week. I can't wait to wake 
up each morning and read your encouraging 
messages and smile all the way to the bank!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr Barry Wright - An Apology

2010-01-05 Thread WillyTex


PaliGap wrote:
 In common with some other posters here on FFL I may 
 have given the impression that Mr Barry White Esq of 
 El Pedro Towers, Sitges is some kind of old pervert, 
 fixated by babes in bikinis, incapable of toiling 
 honestly for a decent day's pay, and spending far too 
 much time with the wine, olives and donkeys between 
 lengthy siestas. Specifically I may have given the 
 impression that the series of shrill harangues 
 directed his way by a certain New York pugilist may 
 have been in many cases quite justified.
 
Well, I don't recall a 'pugilist from New York' posting
anything about Barry's private sex life, or lack of one.
You might be thinking of the Wisconsin pugilist.

We're not real big on flaming around here, especially
when you can't get names and pugilists right.

 Phrases such as She may have a point there or You 
 know she seems to reason in a quite dispassionate way 
 and Her attention to minutiae sure forced him to give 
 up there may have led readers to believe that I was 
 unduly enamoured with the fairness and reasonableness 
 of Ms Stein's approach to FFL and its little 
 controversies.
 
 I now realise, having gained some personal experience 
 of the bricbats and character assasination endemic to 
 the *reasoning* style of the diktat-issuer in 
 question, that there was not a jot nor scintilla of 
 truth in any of the above. I am happy to accept now Mr 
 White's protestations viz. that her attacks on him had 
 a lot more in common with the petulance and tantrums 
 of Mr John McEnroe circa 1980 (also of New York 
 funnily enough) than the subtle and finely drawn 
 distinctions of Mr Ludwig Witggenstein, late of 30 
 Accacia Gardens, Notty Ash, Cambridge.
 
 I would like to apologise for any distress or 
 confusion caused by my credulity and laziness and my 
 tendency to write post after boring post rather than 
 find out what's really going on.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Underpants of mass destruction

2010-01-05 Thread Bhairitu
WillyTex wrote:
 Right-wingers want to know why the 
 underpants bomber wasn't hauled off 
 the plane and waterboarded!

 'Right-wingers' aren't the only ones 
 who want answers - lots of 'left-wingers' 
 and moderate independents want to know 
 why, in over eight years, the U.S. hasn't 
 installed safety precautions to prevent 
 another 9/11. 

 Why is that, John? Why are U.S. passenger
 aircraft still not safe from suicide
 bombers after over eight years? Why, 
 after over eight years, did Flight 253 
 come to a 'near-catastrophic failure'
 in every level of our government? 

 Why didn't your Secretary of State revoke 
 the bomber's visa? Why, John?

 The terrorist plot to bring down 
 Northwest Airlines Flight 253 exposed a 
 near-catastrophic failure at every level 
 of our government. - Barack Obama

 http://tinyurl.com/yhj64te

I believe it was a plot intended to fail.  Who trusts the government in 
telling us that amount of  the supposed explosive could have blown up 
the plane?  Maybe so but we would also have to trust that it was the 
actual explosive on him.  Follow the money.  The body scanning companies 
were having problems selling their machines.  The public hates them and 
this incident is not going make them hate them any less.  But now the 
body scan companies got a windfall or did they actually set the whole 
thing up?  Not hard to cover those tracks.  

Then our military industrial complex needed another front to sell 
weapons too so Yemen made a good choice.  Gets them into Africa for 
years of endless war.  Tell the bureaucrats that say we need to get over 
privacy issues to go fuck themselves.  Oh and go fuck themselves in 
front of a body scanner so the underpaid TSA agents can sell those 
videos as porn on the Internet.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Underpants of mass destruction

2010-01-05 Thread WillyTex


  Why didn't your Secretary of State revoke 
  the bomber's visa? Why, John?
 
Bhairitu wrote: 
 I believe it was a plot intended to fail.  
 Who trusts the government in telling us 
 that amount of  the supposed explosive 
 could have blown up the plane?  Maybe so 
 but we would also have to trust that it 
 was the actual explosive on him. Follow 
 the money. The body scanning companies 
 were having problems selling their 
 machines. The public hates them and 
 this incident is not going make them 
 hate them any less. But now the body 
 scan companies got a windfall or did 
 they actually set the whole thing up?  
 Not hard to cover those tracks.  
 
 Then our military industrial complex 
 needed another front to sell weapons too 
 so Yemen made a good choice. Gets them 
 into Africa for years of endless war.  
 Tell the bureaucrats that say we need 
 to get over privacy issues to go fuck 
 themselves.  Oh and go fuck themselves 
 in front of a body scanner so the 
 underpaid TSA agents can sell those 
 videos as porn on the Internet.

Maybe so, but Obama didn't say that. 

Maybe you're just a lot smarter than
Obama and his administration! If so,
then we've got a lot more to worry about
than suicide bombers - that means that
Obama and his administration are dumber
than the Bush administration by a factor
of one thousand. 

And you voted for Obama, so on that kind
of scale, you're a total idiot. 

Go figure.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Executive Order: Interpol granted full immunity in US

2010-01-05 Thread nelson


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride 
bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote:

 Now we have an international police force operating in the US not
 subject to US laws.
 
 
 http://biggovernment.com/2010/01/01/executive-order-international-police-granted-full-immunity-in-us-and-not-subject-to-foia-requests/
 
 or
 
 http://tinyurl.com/yax9o4a

  This some serious BS and, I wonder what would happen if they disagree with 
the local sheriff.
  The sheriff can arrest an IRS agent for example and, This would also probably 
lead to some irate citizens arresting them on their own.




Re: [FairfieldLife] To the friends of Chris Todd

2010-01-05 Thread m 13
Departure from this world is a difficulty for us that are left.
Please receive anything that is in my heart to soothe any/all.
 
Moving through grief is a process that takes time .
 
May we make effort through it, to love each other that are left.
And forgive each other.
 
May we be warm when we can
 
 
Please remember this song
The lyrics seem poignant/timely
 
As much as we can, let us love and speak positively about one another
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz0_gpjd-fg
 
 
Namaste
 
 
 
-M


  

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2010-01-05 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter
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Start Date (UTC): Sat Jan 02 00:00:00 2010
End Date (UTC): Sat Jan 09 00:00:00 2010
242 messages as of (UTC) Tue Jan 05 23:56:27 2010

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Etude No 2: Two Sins Of Dishonest Intellectuals

2010-01-05 Thread authfriend
Elaborating a bit on an earlier post:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
 The mindset you are trying -- rather effectively,
 in my opinion -- to counter is *not* AGW vs. some
 kind of balanced skepticism, it's certainty vs.
 the willingness to say I don't know.
 
 Judy feels she has the absolute RIGHT to call anyone
 who disagrees with her position a denier. They are
 *not* just disagreeing with a large consensus of 
 scientific speculation, they are disagreeing with
 HER. And, by definition, she knows the TRUTH. So
 to disagree with this TRUTH is to DENY it. Q.E.D.

Barry, in fact, is--or was three weeks ago--on
my side of this debate, not PaliGap's.

But because he doesn't think it's necessary to
read and understand a debate before taking sides,
he's made a fool of himself yet again.

As I pointed out earlier, this debate (before
PaliGap bogged it down in a silly fight about
terminology) had to do with whether, as PaliGap
claimed, the actual evidence for global warming
was insufficient to warrant the attention that
was being paid to it.

I disagreed.

So did Barry, back on December 16:

*At the same time*, I think the performance of
the largest industrialized nations at this climate
change summit is nothing short of disgraceful, and
fully support the African nations and others who
have threatened to walk out. By making sure that
enforceable options to reduce emissions are never
discussed, the largest nations demonstrate their
true allegiance clearly -- to the almighty buck,
no matter what that might mean to the rest of the
world.

If the worst fears of AGW believers come true, I
hope that those delegates from the U.S., from Japan,
from China, and from other industrialized nations
that kept real emission reduction from being even
*discussed* at this summit are the first to be
dragged out of their homes into the streets and
staked out on a beach somewhere, there to await
the 'rising tide.'

What's at issue is, in essence, whether what's
called the precautionary principle should apply
in the case of climate change/global warming. See
another post from me on the precautionary 
principle.

In the meantime, ask yourself: What's behind
Barry's tendency to self-destruct? I think it's
that his hatred of me has truly addled his brains
and destroyed his judgment, such that he'll take
the side of somebody he vehemently disagrees with
in an attempt to gain an ally against me.

Sad.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Underpants of mass destruction

2010-01-05 Thread Mike Dixon
Ii bet crime is over reported so we can hire more police and build more prisons 
also!





From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 1:49:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Underpants of mass destruction

  
WillyTex wrote:
 Right-wingers want to know why the 
 underpants bomber wasn't hauled off 
 the plane and waterboarded! 

 'Right-wingers' aren't the only ones 
 who want answers - lots of 'left-wingers' 
 and moderate independents want to know 
 why, in over eight years, the U.S. hasn't 
 installed safety precautions to prevent 
 another 9/11. 

 Why is that, John? Why are U.S. passenger
 aircraft still not safe from suicide
 bombers after over eight years? Why, 
 after over eight years, did Flight 253 
 come to a 'near-catastrophic failure'
 in every level of our government? 

 Why didn't your Secretary of State revoke 
 the bomber's visa? Why, John?

 The terrorist plot to bring down 
 Northwest Airlines Flight 253 exposed a 
 near-catastrophic failure at every level 
 of our government. - Barack Obama

 http://tinyurl. com/yhj64te

I believe it was a plot intended to fail. Who trusts the government in 
telling us that amount of the supposed explosive could have blown up 
the plane? Maybe so but we would also have to trust that it was the 
actual explosive on him. Follow the money. The body scanning companies 
were having problems selling their machines. The public hates them and 
this incident is not going make them hate them any less. But now the 
body scan companies got a windfall or did they actually set the whole 
thing up? Not hard to cover those tracks. 

Then our military industrial complex needed another front to sell 
weapons too so Yemen made a good choice. Gets them into Africa for 
years of endless war. Tell the bureaucrats that say we need to get over 
privacy issues to go fuck themselves. Oh and go fuck themselves in 
front of a body scanner so the underpaid TSA agents can sell those 
videos as porn on the Internet.





  

[FairfieldLife] Re: 1957

2010-01-05 Thread dhamiltony2k5



 1975
 Maharishi's Year of the
 Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment
 
 With the discovery of the Maharishi Effect
 the profound nature of Maharishi's Creative
 Intelligence is further validated.  The
 Maharishi Effect demonstrates that 
 the collective life of a society or nation can 
 be fully developed and enriched through a small proportion
 of the population practicing Maharishi's
 Transcendental Meditation.


1975  (continued)

The 'Maharishi Effect' establishes a new formula for the creation of an ideal 
society, free from crime and problems.  With this, Maharishi envisions the dawn 
of a new age for humankind- the Age of Enlightenment.

On January 12, Maharishi inaugurates the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment for 
the whole world in Switzerland, and travels to all six continents inaugurating 
the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment for each continent.  The Dawn of the Age 
of Enlightenment brings the first wave of fulfillment of Maharishi's World Plan.

Maharishi establishes Maharishi European Research University to monitor the 
rise of the Age of Enlightenment in all parts of the world, and to investigate 
the full range of possibilities inherent in human consciousness. 
 
  1974
  Maharishi's Year of 
  Achievement of the World Plan
  
  The Discovery of the Maharishi Effect:
  one percent of the population practicing
  the Transcendental Meditation program in
  any city reduces negative tendencies, such
  as crime, accident, and sickness rates, and
  increases positive tendencies throughout
  society.
  
   
   1973
   Maharishi's Year of
   Action for the World Plan
   
   More than 2,000 World Plan Centers are
   established in all parts of the world,
   offering courses in the Science of
   Creative Intelligence.
   
1972
Maharishi's Year of the World Plan.

Maharishi inaugurates the World Plan to solve
the age-old problems of mankind in this generation,
with 2,000 newly trained teachers of 
the Science of Creative Intelligence.



 1971
 Maharishi's Year of
 Science of Creative Intelligence
 
 Maharishi formulates the Science of Creative Intelligence
 as the scientific theory for the development of 
 higher states of consciousness, which naturally develop 
 through the practice of Transcendental Meditation.
 
 Maharishi establishes Maharishi Interantional University
 in the U.S.A. to serve as a model of ideal education in the world.
 
 
  
  1970
  Maharishi's Year of
  Scientific Research
  
  First scientific research on Transcendental
  Meditation, identifying the physiological
  correlates of higher states of consciousness.
  With this research Transcendental Meditation
  gains worldwide publicity and inspires scientists
  throughout the world to research into the wide range of benefits 
  resulting from Transcendental Meditation.
  
  
  
   
   1969
   Maharishi's Year of
   Supreme Consciousness
   
   Maharishi comments extensively on the Brahma Sutras,
   the texbook of Vedant, the aspect of Vedic literature
   which provides complete knowledge of 
   Unity Consciousness, the pinnacle of human evolution.
   


1968
Maharishi's Year of Students

Students International Meditation Society
is founded in many countries.



 1967
 Maharishi's Year of
 Unity Consciousness
 
 Maharishi explains experiences of Transcendental
 Meditation in terms of Unity Consciousness.
 Maharishi inaugurates the first European Meditation Academy 
 in Bremen, Germany
  
  
  1966
  Maharishi's Year of
  Academy of Meditation
  
  In the year of the great Kumbha Mela in Allahabad,
  India, Maharishi inaugurates the first International
  Academy of Meditation, Shankaracharya Nagar, Rishikesh,
  India, with the second International Transcendental
  Meditation Teacher Training Course.
   
   
   1965
   Maharishi's Year of Bhagavad-Gita
   
   Maharishi explains expereiences of 
   Transcendental Meditation in terms of
   the principle of action: Nishkama karma yog,
   yogastah kuru karmani; Established in Unity, perform 
   action
   -Bhagavad-Gita II 45, and completes his commentary on the 
   Bhagavad-Gita.

   
1964
Maharishi's Year of
God Consciousness

Maharishi explains experiences of
Transcendental Meditation in terms
of the most refined state of Cosmic
Consciousness -God Consciousness.
 
 
 1963
 Maharishi's Year of the 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Underpants of mass destruction

2010-01-05 Thread Bhairitu
Actually you aren't far from wrong.  They keep criminalizing things that 
shouldn't be so they can fill prisons and build new ones.  We need to 
stand up against this.  And they keep hiring really dumb young cops so 
they can get the senior ones to retire early (cheaper on the pension 
funds).  And those aggressive cops are the ones who often go gung ho 
with tasers.


Mike Dixon wrote:
 Ii bet crime is over reported so we can hire more police and build more 
 prisons also!




 
 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 1:49:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Underpants of mass destruction

   
 WillyTex wrote:
   
 Right-wingers want to know why the 
 underpants bomber wasn't hauled off 
 the plane and waterboarded! 

 'Right-wingers' aren't the only ones 
 who want answers - lots of 'left-wingers' 
 and moderate independents want to know 
 why, in over eight years, the U.S. hasn't 
 installed safety precautions to prevent 
 another 9/11. 

 Why is that, John? Why are U.S. passenger
 aircraft still not safe from suicide
 bombers after over eight years? Why, 
 after over eight years, did Flight 253 
 come to a 'near-catastrophic failure'
 in every level of our government? 

 Why didn't your Secretary of State revoke 
 the bomber's visa? Why, John?

 The terrorist plot to bring down 
 Northwest Airlines Flight 253 exposed a 
 near-catastrophic failure at every level 
 of our government. - Barack Obama

 http://tinyurl. com/yhj64te
 

 I believe it was a plot intended to fail. Who trusts the government in 
 telling us that amount of the supposed explosive could have blown up 
 the plane? Maybe so but we would also have to trust that it was the 
 actual explosive on him. Follow the money. The body scanning companies 
 were having problems selling their machines. The public hates them and 
 this incident is not going make them hate them any less. But now the 
 body scan companies got a windfall or did they actually set the whole 
 thing up? Not hard to cover those tracks. 

 Then our military industrial complex needed another front to sell 
 weapons too so Yemen made a good choice. Gets them into Africa for 
 years of endless war. Tell the bureaucrats that say we need to get over 
 privacy issues to go fuck themselves. Oh and go fuck themselves in 
 front of a body scanner so the underpaid TSA agents can sell those 
 videos as porn on the Internet.





   
   



[FairfieldLife] P.V.R. Narasimha Rao on Ishta Devata and Jyotish

2010-01-05 Thread shukra69
In the chapter called kaarakaamsa phala in BPHS, Parasara mentioned the
deities worshipped based on the planets in the 12th from kaarakaamsha. For
example, Sun in 12th from AK shows a worshipper of Shiva and Moon in 12th from
AK shows a worshipper of Gouri.

The term kaarakaamsa means AK's amsa. Amsa only means division. Which amsa
or division is Parasara referring to?

Though people jumped to the conclusion that amsa means navaamsa by default,
there is one more important thing to consider here. At the onset itself,
Parasara clarified which amsas (divisions) are used for which purposes. He
clearly said upaasanaayaaH viGYaanaM saadhyaM viMshati bhaagake, meaning the
knowledge of one's worship and spiritual practices is possible in D-20.

If, having said that at the onset, he defines which deities are worshipped based
on the 12th house from AK in an amsa, can the amsa in question be anything
other than D-20?! After all, he clearly said one's upaasanaa is seen from D-20.
So the principles laid out later by Parasara for upaasanaa *must* be referring
to D-20 by amsa and *not* D-9 as people normally take.

* * *

People faithfully follow tradition and suggest specific ishta devatas to people.
However, had some spiritual greats who were liberated by the grace of a deity
come to us, we would've probably prescribed a different deity to them. There are
several examples and I will share a few here.

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's AK Rahu is in Cp in D-9 and Sun (Raama/Maatangi) is
alone in 12th owned by Jupiter (Vaamana/Taaraa). Pt Sanjay Rath once argued with
me that Lord Rama (Sun) is Ramakrishna's ishta devata and tried to justify it
alluding to things from Ramakrishna's childhood. He also said that Tara
(Jupiter) is Ramakrishna's ishta devata, because the Kaali idol at Dakshineshwar
temple was called Bhava Taarini (one who makes one cross the material world).

Such logic is unreasonable. Bottomline is that Ramakrishna revered and
surrendered to mother Kaali. He saw her in an idol, in a cat, in a flower, in
the entire creation and in the light that fills the entire universe. The one who
appears scary to several was a beautiful and loving mother to him and She guided
his life completely and liberated him. Even before entering nirvikalpa samadhi
(a state beyond forms, including the Kaali form), he asked Kaali for permission.
That shows what Kaali meant to him! If Jyotish principles you use show Raama or
Taaraa as his ishta devata, probably your knowledge is incomplete or incorrect.

In the case of Sarada Mata, AK Moon is in Sg in D-9 and Sc is empty. Mars and
Ketu own it. One would've suggested Narasimha or Bagalamukhi for Mars or
Matsyavatara or Dhumavati for Ketu. Her life too was guided (and liberated) by
mother Kaali.

In the case of Swami Vivekananda, AK Sun is in Sg. Jupiter is in 12th and Mars
owns it. One would've suggested Vaamana or Taaraa for Jupiter or Narasimha or
Bagalamukhi for Mars. Swamiji was into Gayatri mantra and Chandipath. He saw
Kaali as a girl and talked to her for most of the second half of his life and
derived his energy from her. He remarked in his last few days that the girl
Kaali who was around him and giving him energy was no longer visible. If one has
saayujya (togetherness) of a deity while living and the deity is constantly
guiding one, that definitely must be one's ishta devata.

For Ramana Maharshi, 12th from AK Moon contains Ketu in navamsa and Venus owns
and aspects 12th. However, he obtained liberation guided by Shiva at
Arunachalam.

* * *

If we cannot see the correct deity in the case of spiritual giants who succeeded
by surrendering to a specific deity, what good are our principles and how well
can we guide people?

* * *

I suggest going back to Parasara and using D-20 instead of D-9. There is one
special point when Rahu is AK.

Planets have argala on the 3rd, 10th and 12th houses from them. Parasara taught
that these houses are counted *anti-zodiacally* when we find the argala of *Rahu
and Ketu* on various signs and planets. This makes sense intuitively, as Rahu
and Ketu move anti-zodiacally. What Rahu considers as the 1st or 2nd house from
him would be based on his anti-zodiacal movement. If 0-30 deg from the longitude
of Mars is 1st house from Mars, 30-60 deg from the longitude of Mars is 2nd
house from Mars and so on, as Parasara taught in BPHS, then 360-330 deg from
Rahu's longitude must be the 1st house from Rahu and 330-300 deg from Rahu's
longitude must be the 2nd house from Rahu and so on. Even in the evaluation of
chara karakas, Parasara mentioned subtracting Rahu's progress in sign from 30
deg and that is consistent with this entire philosophy.

Thus, I conclude that houses should be reckoned anti-zodiacally from Rahu, if
Rahu is AK.

* * *

Now, let us revisit previous examples. I am using Jagannatha ayanamsa. I will
stick to Parasara's approach and build on it, rather than use the list of
dasavataras or dasa mahavidyas. For example, Sun shows Shiva according to