[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > Well I guess everyone is happy now. Ravi got his pat, > you got to drag Barry into a completely unrelated > conversation and I get to call you a sour little plum. Your use of the word "unrelated" shows how little you understood Maharishi's teaching, Curtis. Don't you remember him saying in one of his Guru Purnimah talks, "Every post is a perfect opportunity to bring up the epithet we've already prepared about Barry?" It's a variant of Unity Consciousness in which the practitioner, instead of seeing Self in everything, sees Barry in everything. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > > > > You must be unaware of brahma-raakshasa-s. > > > > > > They are higher than mere humans and more > > dangerous than most people recognize. > > > > For example, Vag is probably a reborn brahma-rakshasa > > rather than a mere manushya-astika (i.e. vedic denier) > > although he has the guna-s of both of them. > > > > Are you refferring to Vaj on FFL ? > > It would be interesting to hear the opinion of Jim and Rory, souls in the > know on this. We already know Vaj to be one in a couple of donkeys and > jackasses posting here. * * If you're asking me, Vaj is exactly like every one of us "mere" humans: a "Maharishi" (in every sense of the word, spanning the whole range of creation)-- Dumbledore and Voldemort, devata and rakshasa; supremely enlightened, supremely passionate, supremely ignorant; ordinary and extraordinary all in one and all at once -- simultaneously absolutely no-thing and a kaleidoscopic mix of every quality in creation; a mirror, an emptiful screen upon which we delight in playing out our various dramas as if they are somehow not-Us :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
Good, thanks On Jul 23, 2011, at 8:49 PM, authfriend wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > Hmm, thank you, t. Might it also be a semi-arrogant way of > > saying "each of you will absorb my wisdom according to your > > capabilities"? > > Not really, Mark. It's more like, "This works for me, it may > not work for you." The phrase itself involves no judgment; > it's a disclaimer (as was the original, with regard to a > mileage claim in an ad for a new car). > > > > On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:57 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > Mark, YMMV stands for "Your Mileage May Vary," an Internet > > > way of saying "Make up your own mind." > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
"In regione caecorum rex est luscus". "In the land of the blind, the one-eye man is king" Yes and on the island of the unarmed even the one-gun man is bloody death. Read it and weep. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > Yep - I am no scholar but his stuff never passes the smell test. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote: > > > > > > "In regione caecorum rex est luscus". Desiderius Erasmus. > > "In the land of the blind, the one-eye man is king" > > > > Vag believes he can enfold the dialog here in pseudo-Buddhist rhetoric > > and bedazzle those who don't know the references. Those who do know > > find him a Buddhist bullshitter merely a running dog-flunky for a > > few strident and shallow Western lackeys. > > . > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" > > wrote: > > > > > > Vaj comes across to me as a kind of nerdy guy that gets his kicks > > appearing wise. More dork than demon, imo. > > > > > > Fear and an unsettled mind aid so-called rakshasas. If you have > > neither, they are harmless. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You must be unaware of brahma-raakshasa-s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They are higher than mere humans and more > > > > > dangerous than most people recognize. > > > > > > > > > > For example, Vag is probably a reborn brahma-rakshasa > > > > > rather than a mere manushya-astika (i.e. vedic denier) > > > > > although he has the guna-s of both of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you refferring to Vaj on FFL ? > > > > > > > > It would be interesting to hear the opinion of Jim and Rory, souls > > in the know on this. We already know Vaj to be one in a couple of > > donkeys and jackasses posting here. > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > Hmm, thank you, t. Might it also be a semi-arrogant way of > saying "each of you will absorb my wisdom according to your > capabilities"? Not really, Mark. It's more like, "This works for me, it may not work for you." The phrase itself involves no judgment; it's a disclaimer (as was the original, with regard to a mileage claim in an ad for a new car). > On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:57 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > Mark, YMMV stands for "Your Mileage May Vary," an Internet > > way of saying "Make up your own mind."
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
Robin, this is old argument here with the deniers. You've offered this by way of your experience before here but they don't touch it. They've been doing this with spirituality ever since they showed up on FFL. It evidently is not their experience and makes no way for them so in sophistry they drop it, rule it out or deny it entirely. They are quite good and smart at it and get more practiced at their negativity every time around. You're being very patient asking these questions for sake of a civil discussion. But additionally, what would you offer to them to get them them more spiritually towards what you are having? Do you advocate any processes in spiritual direction? May be even of cultivating providential spirituality like you are recently talking? What do you like as far as cultivating spirituality? Just wondering. -Buck in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
Yep - I am no scholar but his stuff never passes the smell test. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > "In regione caecorum rex est luscus". Desiderius Erasmus. > "In the land of the blind, the one-eye man is king" > > Vag believes he can enfold the dialog here in pseudo-Buddhist rhetoric > and bedazzle those who don't know the references. Those who do know > find him a Buddhist bullshitter merely a running dog-flunky for a > few strident and shallow Western lackeys. > . > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" > wrote: > > > > Vaj comes across to me as a kind of nerdy guy that gets his kicks > appearing wise. More dork than demon, imo. > > > > Fear and an unsettled mind aid so-called rakshasas. If you have > neither, they are harmless. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You must be unaware of brahma-raakshasa-s. > > > > > > > > > > > > They are higher than mere humans and more > > > > dangerous than most people recognize. > > > > > > > > For example, Vag is probably a reborn brahma-rakshasa > > > > rather than a mere manushya-astika (i.e. vedic denier) > > > > although he has the guna-s of both of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you refferring to Vaj on FFL ? > > > > > > It would be interesting to hear the opinion of Jim and Rory, souls > in the know on this. We already know Vaj to be one in a couple of > donkeys and jackasses posting here. > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
Ahh, yes. Then, for the badge-holder, such a decision becomes much more critical and difficult. Thank you for explaining this. On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Buck wrote: > Mark, given these modern times and communications you would think so. In the > marketplace people are way more studied and way more exposed to gurus and > spirituality than probably ever before. However, on the ground in TM here in > FF you need a valid badge. Effectively participation is with a one-guru badge > in application. The TM-TB's left inside in control of participation are more > strictly 'one-guru' devotees. Disciples. They put that standard over on > everyone else, even on those who may just be practitioners and not devotees. > > Here in Fairfield last week for Guru Purnima you had to have a 'valid' dome > badge (be an eligible TM-siddhi practitioner) to go to the TM-movement's guru > celebration. In effect that left thousands of old-time badge-less meditators > out to themselves. The FF TM-no-badge-nik meditators. Inside there are only a > few hundreds active left here with badges yet close to three thousand adults > here who previously had come here to Iowa as TM-meditators. There essentially > is a fealty test going on by the conservative elements in the middle putting > up the threshold of a TM-Siddhis 'dome badge' to old meditators coming in to > even celebrate Maharishi as a guru. It's a very calculated policy on the part > of a TM taliban-like doctrine-bound element inside. > > You would think Guru Purnima could be a time to be forthcoming, hospitable. A > time to gather. As I survey around on the street, there is still in the old > meditating community a residual or latent hope that things could work out for > TM here but practically folks express only dim hope given the general lack of > social skills within TM in reality. > > Jai Guru Dev, > -Buck in FF > an old Iowa meditator > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > You're welcome, Richard. I'm glad. > > Well, he definitely was my master from '71 till the late '70s or early > > '80s, but, after that, no. > > If we take the reality, I don't feel he would qualify as a true master. If > > we can hold some idealized version of him, I suppose we could keep him as a > > master. > > I think Guru Dev would much more readily qualify as true master. > > But perhaps it is time for us to move beyond masters. That was a viable way > > to grow spiritually in the past, but, perhaps, not so much now. > > I think our times call more for us to find our own way, or to find teachers > > who will accept us without demanding that they be masters, teachers who > > serve us well from where we currently are, but who acknowledge their own > > imperfections and that not all they teach will perfectly serve everyone. > > Hope this helps, > > m > > > > On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:45 PM, richardnelson108 wrote: > > > > > Hi Mark, > > > > > > Thanks so much for all your recent posts. They have really been a > > > wonderful read and very insightful. > > > > > > Since you had the opportunity to experience Maharishi in a way that most > > > of us never did, I am wondering how you feel about Maharishi being a > > > "master", and if you feel or felt that he was or is your personal master? > > > Its an area that I have gone back and forth on many times throughout my > > > life and still hold some confusion about. > > > There is no question that TM has worked for me and that being around him > > > was very powerful, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is in the league > > > of a true master, particularly with all of the things that just don't > > > make sense about him. > > > > > > Your insight would be most helpful 5'm sure if you don't mind. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:43 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > > > Fruitful, fruitful! You continue to be a huge addition to the content > > > > > here Mark. Your exchange with Robin on your experiences with > > > > > Maharishi were fascinating. > > > > > > > > > > I was surprised to learn that Bevan wasn't a skin boy. I thought that > > > > > was one of his claims to fame when he was first with Maharishi in > > > > > India. > > > > > > > > > > The mega intense world at Maharishi's door is so worthy of a book, > > > > > many books for each person who wants to tell this story. One of the > > > > > most fascinating books I have read was by Mao's personal physician. > > > > > You get an insight into his character you get nowhere else. Same for > > > > > you guys in the hot seat carrying the hot seat. Any details you > > > > > sprinkle here will fall on many delighted ears. I enjoy your divine > > > > > experiences as much as any insights into the more human side of > > > > > Maharishi. > > > > > > > > > Thank you, Curtis > > > > > > > > When I knew Bevan in the 70s, he confi
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
"In regione caecorum rex est luscus". Desiderius Erasmus. "In the land of the blind, the one-eye man is king" Vag believes he can enfold the dialog here in pseudo-Buddhist rhetoric and bedazzle those who don't know the references. Those who do know find him a Buddhist bullshitter merely a running dog-flunky for a few strident and shallow Western lackeys. . --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > Vaj comes across to me as a kind of nerdy guy that gets his kicks appearing wise. More dork than demon, imo. > > Fear and an unsettled mind aid so-called rakshasas. If you have neither, they are harmless. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > > > > > > > You must be unaware of brahma-raakshasa-s. > > > > > > > > > They are higher than mere humans and more > > > dangerous than most people recognize. > > > > > > For example, Vag is probably a reborn brahma-rakshasa > > > rather than a mere manushya-astika (i.e. vedic denier) > > > although he has the guna-s of both of them. > > > > > > > > Are you refferring to Vaj on FFL ? > > > > It would be interesting to hear the opinion of Jim and Rory, souls in the know on this. We already know Vaj to be one in a couple of donkeys and jackasses posting here. > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
Hmm, thank you, t. Might it also be a semi-arrogant way of saying "each of you will absorb my wisdom according to your capabilities"? And re what you wrote below, I agree. But, for me the Satguru is extremely valuable and/or an extremely valuable concept--not the perfectly embodied human Satguru, but the real Satguru, which I sometimes call God and the universe, bringing us exactly what we need to work on exactly what we must in order to move forward, if we can. On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:57 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > Mark, YMMV stands for "Your Mileage May Vary," an Internet > way of saying "Make up your own mind." > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > Hi Ravi, I agree with most of what you say here with 1 possible > > and 1 definite exception. > > > > Firstly, you seem to be holding M as pure Satguru. This, of > > course, is your prerogative. But, if so, we have no basis > > for discussion, because any blemish, shadow or dysfunction > > seen in him would, by definition, be pure projection of the > > observer. I hold that no human is pure Satguru, though > > Satguru exists in all things. If human, the possibility of > > blemish, shadow or dysfunction could, at any time, arise in > > any person, guru or not, and be truly perceived by a > > discerning observer and not be projection. > > I completely agree with you. On another forum followers > of another controversial teacher are busy making excuses > for some of his outlandish, illegal, and finally self- > destructive behavior writing it all off with their dogma's > counterpart of "The ways of the enlightened are unfathomable." > Many of them repeat the same things we've seen on this forum > from time to time, that the enlightened (I would say "sup- > posedly enlightened," since the only evidence we ever have > of it is their claim, based on their subjective experience) > are not subject to the same rules we are. Instead, they > live (these folks would say) in a different dimension than > lesser people. Miming the same "the enlightened can do no > harm because all of their actions are by definition in tune > with the will of God or the laws of nature" meme we're so > familiar with, they find a way to either deny (pretend that > the behavior never existed) or "explain" (come up with > often outlandish rationalizations for) behaviors that they > would condemn *in any other person*. > > The thing that fascinates me most in all of this is that > no one seems to notice that when they use the phrase "by > definition," they are referring to definitions taught to > them *by the person they are making excuses for*. When > they say that the enlightened are "special" and not subject > to the same laws or ethical guidelines as other people, > they remain blissfully unaware that *these very phrases* > were taught to them by -- again -- the very person they > are making excuses for. It's like there is a complete > disconnect with the *source* of the beliefs they are > relying on to justify their justifications. > > I remain unconvinced that anyone on earth is or ever has > been so "special" that they are not subject to the same > laws and ethical guidelines as everyone else. Satguru, > schmatguru. If Maharishi had been caught doing all the > money-laundering he did over the years, he'd have been > charged with the same crime as anyone else doing the > same thing. And IMO that's the way it should be. > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
Yes, it is the same Vag. Spelling it this way is a play on two pronunciations of "ga and ja" in Tibetan. For instance, a prominent lineage in Tibetan Buddhism is called either Kah-gyuh-pa (hard "g") or Kuh-juuh-pa (soft "j") depending upon whether you are speaking Lhasa dialect or the Kham dialect. Using that interpolated variance in Tibetan dialect affords me a method of punning his screen name here on FFL, where it definitely brands him as female genitalia all via his professed love of Tibetan yoga. Being called "brahma-rakshasa" will probably swell his little "i" until he figures out what it means. . --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote: > > > > You must be unaware of brahma-raakshasa-s.\ > > > > They are higher than mere humans and more > > dangerous than most people recognize. > > > > For example, Vag is probably a reborn brahma-rakshasa > > rather than a mere manushya-astika (i.e. vedic denier) > > although he has the guna-s of both of them. > > > > Are you refferring to Vaj on FFL ? > > It would be interesting to hear the opinion of Jim and Rory, souls in the know on this. We already know Vaj to be one in a couple of donkeys and jackasses posting here. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
Vaj comes across to me as a kind of nerdy guy that gets his kicks appearing wise. More dork than demon, imo. Fear and an unsettled mind aid so-called rakshasas. If you have neither, they are harmless. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > > > > You must be unaware of brahma-raakshasa-s. > > > > > > They are higher than mere humans and more > > dangerous than most people recognize. > > > > For example, Vag is probably a reborn brahma-rakshasa > > rather than a mere manushya-astika (i.e. vedic denier) > > although he has the guna-s of both of them. > > > > Are you refferring to Vaj on FFL ? > > It would be interesting to hear the opinion of Jim and Rory, souls in the > know on this. We already know Vaj to be one in a couple of donkeys and > jackasses posting here. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Freemason kills at least 84??
OK, here's the Masonic connection, but it's still quite blurry. From the NY Times The Lede blog: http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/scouring-the-web-for-clues-to-a-suspected-attackers-motives/?hp - "On Saturday, Norway's TV2, citing police sources, reported that the suspect uploaded a video to YouTube and a 1,500 page manifesto, written in English, to the Norwegian Web site Freak.no, just hours before the attacks. "Both the manifesto, '2082: A European Declaration of Independence,' and the YouTube video were signed 'Andrew Berwick,' an apparent Anglicization of Anders Breivik. Both also make extensive reference to the Knights Templar [now changed to "the Crusades"] and the supposed threat to Christian Europe by Muslim immigrants." - There's an international order affiliated with Freemasonry called the Knights Templar. The medieval version was, of course, militantly anti-Muslim, but there seems to be no evidence that the modern Knights Templar, or the Masons in general, are. The Knights Templar group featured in the video is unrelated to the modern Knights Templar, which is a charitable organization. We still don't know the basis for Breivik having become a "regular" Mason. Here's the video: http://www.twitvid.com/EXJWW The manifesto is here (on Google Docs): http://bit.ly/pMSuRg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > http://truthfrequencynews.com/?p=6853 > > > > Illuminati-Freemason Mind Controled Slave Anders Behring > > Breivik Identified As Suspect In Norway Shooting > > We know very little about the guy yet, but there's no evidence > I'm aware of that Freemasonry had anything to do with his > actions, although he is a Mason. > > It's odd that he would be a Mason, since he's pretty clearly > a right-winger and is said to be a fundamentalist Christian; > these groups are typically very strongly anti-Mason. And > while the membership of Freemasonry is diverse, typically > it's rather broad-minded. > > If anyone is interested, Mother Jones has a collection of his > postings to the Norwegian anti-Muslim Web site Document.no: > > http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/07/anders-behring-breiviks-online-comments > > http://tinyurl.com/3b4pw77 > > Although the translations are a bit rough, it's clear that > he's quite intelligent and, at least at the time he made > the postings, very coherent. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
Mark, given these modern times and communications you would think so. In the marketplace people are way more studied and way more exposed to gurus and spirituality than probably ever before. However, on the ground in TM here in FF you need a valid badge. Effectively participation is with a one-guru badge in application. The TM-TB's left inside in control of participation are more strictly 'one-guru' devotees. Disciples. They put that standard over on everyone else, even on those who may just be practitioners and not devotees. Here in Fairfield last week for Guru Purnima you had to have a 'valid' dome badge (be an eligible TM-siddhi practitioner) to go to the TM-movement's guru celebration. In effect that left thousands of old-time badge-less meditators out to themselves. The FF TM-no-badge-nik meditators. Inside there are only a few hundreds active left here with badges yet close to three thousand adults here who previously had come here to Iowa as TM-meditators. There essentially is a fealty test going on by the conservative elements in the middle putting up the threshold of a TM-Siddhis 'dome badge' to old meditators coming in to even celebrate Maharishi as a guru. It's a very calculated policy on the part of a TM taliban-like doctrine-bound element inside. You would think Guru Purnima could be a time to be forthcoming, hospitable. A time to gather. As I survey around on the street, there is still in the old meditating community a residual or latent hope that things could work out for TM here but practically folks express only dim hope given the general lack of social skills within TM in reality. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in FF an old Iowa meditator --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > You're welcome, Richard. I'm glad. > Well, he definitely was my master from '71 till the late '70s or early '80s, > but, after that, no. > If we take the reality, I don't feel he would qualify as a true master. If > we can hold some idealized version of him, I suppose we could keep him as a > master. > I think Guru Dev would much more readily qualify as true master. > But perhaps it is time for us to move beyond masters. That was a viable way > to grow spiritually in the past, but, perhaps, not so much now. > I think our times call more for us to find our own way, or to find teachers > who will accept us without demanding that they be masters, teachers who serve > us well from where we currently are, but who acknowledge their own > imperfections and that not all they teach will perfectly serve everyone. > Hope this helps, > m > > On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:45 PM, richardnelson108 wrote: > > > Hi Mark, > > > > Thanks so much for all your recent posts. They have really been a wonderful > > read and very insightful. > > > > Since you had the opportunity to experience Maharishi in a way that most of > > us never did, I am wondering how you feel about Maharishi being a "master", > > and if you feel or felt that he was or is your personal master? Its an area > > that I have gone back and forth on many times throughout my life and still > > hold some confusion about. > > There is no question that TM has worked for me and that being around him > > was very powerful, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is in the league of > > a true master, particularly with all of the things that just don't make > > sense about him. > > > > Your insight would be most helpful 5'm sure if you don't mind. > > > > Thanks > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:43 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > > Fruitful, fruitful! You continue to be a huge addition to the content > > > > here Mark. Your exchange with Robin on your experiences with Maharishi > > > > were fascinating. > > > > > > > > I was surprised to learn that Bevan wasn't a skin boy. I thought that > > > > was one of his claims to fame when he was first with Maharishi in > > > > India. > > > > > > > > The mega intense world at Maharishi's door is so worthy of a book, many > > > > books for each person who wants to tell this story. One of the most > > > > fascinating books I have read was by Mao's personal physician. You get > > > > an insight into his character you get nowhere else. Same for you guys > > > > in the hot seat carrying the hot seat. Any details you sprinkle here > > > > will fall on many delighted ears. I enjoy your divine experiences as > > > > much as any insights into the more human side of Maharishi. > > > > > > > Thank you, Curtis > > > > > > When I knew Bevan in the 70s, he confided in me that he was always > > > jealous of the skin boys because he had never gotten to do it himself. I > > > don't know what happened after I left, in '76. My guess is that he never > > > really played that roll, that M had bigger and better ideas for him and > > > didn't want to jeopardize them. I would think, though, he got to > > > phy
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > hostile challenge.> > > Oh the busy day of the sour plum. So many hostile challenges > to generate and only 50 posts to do it in. Just can't stop yourself from continuing to prove my point, can you? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > Well I guess everyone is happy now. Ravi got his pat, you got > > > to drag Barry into a completely unrelated conversation > > > > Ravi got no pat, and the conversation was by no means > > unrelated to Barry. > > > > > and I get to call you a sour little plum. > > > > And you become a sleazeball when you're responding to a > > hostile challenge. > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Curtis, In your new Avatar as the Mr. Nice Guy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you trying to parrot Judy's "Mr. Wonderful" putdown > > > > > > > to score points with her? That is so cute. Usually > > > > > > > opening with a vague ad hominem would make me skip the > > > > > > > rest but if you are going for a pat on the head, I'll > > > > > > > indulge you a bit more. > > > > > > > > > > > > That's a sleazy little trick you've picked up from Barry: > > > > > > Anybody who makes a criticism that happens to be similar > > > > > > to one Judy has made is only doing it to get Judy's > > > > > > approval; it's not possible that two people could come > > > > > > to similar conclusions independently. > > > > > > > > > > Mastering a little inadvertent irony are we? > > > > > > > > It's just a *wee* bit different when the conclusions > > > > are patently bogus and self-serving. > > > > > > > > > Therefore there's > > > > > > really only *one* person who makes that criticism, so > > > > > > it can be considered an outlier, an anomaly, and dismissed > > > > > > without consideration. > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and never, *ever* look to see whether Judy seems to be > > > > > > into the point-awarding, head-patting game with the person > > > > > > whose criticism you're claiming has been made to gain her > > > > > > approval. > > > > > > > > > > That wouldn't be necessary for the point to be valid about > > > > > the other person. > > > > > > > > Makes it a lot less likely if the other person has no > > > > reason to expect it, of course. > > > > > > > > > > BTW, to Ravi: This isn't a "new" Curtis Avatar, not by a > > > > > > long shot. He just happens to have been working overtime > > > > > > on it recently. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure Judy and Nabby > > > > > > > > come against each of you guys persistently and strongly > > > > > > > > but they do have a point that neither of you seem to > > > > > > > > acknowledge, at least publicly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are rambling a bit here. I acknowledge Judy all the > > > > > > > time, what point do you mean? > > > > > > > > > > > > As if you didn't know. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeez, Curtis, did you set out to demonstrate the validity > > > > > > of the charge that your ethics are, well, a bit slippery? > > > > > > > > > > I wanted him to state it clearly rather than play the > > > > > innuendo game of vague unpleasant shaming. But my ethics > > > > > are just fine, thanks for asking. > > > > > > > > No, Curtis, your ethics *stink* when you're responding > > > > to a hostile challenge. You're a dirty fighter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a sneaking suspicion that you needed some attention > > > > > > > from me and were willing to get it in its positive or > > > > > > > negative form. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, another sleazy move borrowed from Barry. No wonder you > > > > > > refuse to criticize him. > > > > > > > > > > Judy just few lines above: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to similar conclusions independently. > > > > > > > > > > > You hardly even give me a chance to write when you hand me > > > > > all the best lines yourself. > > > > > > > > Sorry, but your attempt to use it crashes and burns in > > > > its own sleaze. See above about conclusions that are > > > > patently bogus and self-serving. > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Inside Scientology
I read this article back in Feb in the New Yorker about the resignation of a top leader - quite interesting and entertaining http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/02/14/110214fa_fact_wright --- On Sat, 7/23/11, eustace10679 wrote: From: eustace10679 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Inside Scientology To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 23, 2011, 3:01 PM Reporter Janet Reitman Peers 'Inside Scientology' Audio for this story from All Things Considered will be available at approx. 7:00 p.m. ET July 23, 2011 In the 1930s, L. Ron Hubbard was a pulp fiction writer, best known for his fantasy and science fiction stories. But after an attempt at Hollywood screenwriting, Hubbard decided to go a different route. In 1950, he published Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health, a self-help book that became a bestseller and launched a new religion. That religion was Scientology, and six decades since it began, much is still unclear about the church, its history and its current leader, David Miscavige, who took over shortly after Hubbard's death. Journalist Janet Reitman spent more than five years combing through confidential papers and memos, visiting various Scientology centers and interviewing church members past and present for her book, Inside Scientology: The Story of America's Most Secretive Religion. Reitman tells weekends on All Things Considered host Guy Raz that under Miscavige the church has grown. "He has given it a certain mainstream appeal," she says, "[and] he's put an emphasis on building churches, expanding their physical presence." But this expansion has not come without its costs, the author explains. Miscavige's leadership style has caused some high-ranking members, including former spokesperson Mike Rinder, to leave and form their own independent movement. "He has made Scientology itself very rigid," Reitman says, "and within the management of Scientology, he's imposed an incredibly punitive system where people basically live in fear of him." The Celebrity Factor Some of the Church's most famous members are celebrities such as Tom Cruise, John Travolta and Kirstie Alley. Reitmen says these members are often subjected to a more intense form of "auditing" â€" what Scientologists refer to as "spiritual counseling." "The members reveal a tremendous amount of personal information," she explains. "So that stuff is all basically filed away. The innermost secrets, the most personal secrets, are part of the record of the Church of Scientology. And, you know, would they release that information if somebody like Cruise or Travolta decided to leave and denounce the church? That I think is a credible fear." Scientology also has been scrutinized for the way it is "militantly against" psychiatry and psychiatric drugs, Reitman says. The church has created an alternative drug-treatment program called Narconon. "The Church of Scientology you know, sort of presents an alternative, and I'm not sure that alternative is workable," Reitman says. "I think that alternative can be very harmful depending on how far you go with it and that's what I think is threatening." The Church Responds When given an opportunity to respond, the Church of Scientology sent NPR an 11-page statement that began: "Ms. Reitman's book is filled with inaccuracies. It is neither scholarly nor well-researched and bears no resemblance to an "inside" story." http://www.npr.org/2011/07/23/138475723/reporter-janet-reitman-peers-inside-scientology
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of > > losing people to this shit. > > > > At her best: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rs&playnext=1&list=PL2D4F755C610950CA > > > > At 27, like Jim, Jimi, Janis, Brian, Kurt... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > hostile challenge.> Oh the busy day of the sour plum. So many hostile challenges to generate and only 50 posts to do it in. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > Well I guess everyone is happy now. Ravi got his pat, you got > > to drag Barry into a completely unrelated conversation > > Ravi got no pat, and the conversation was by no means > unrelated to Barry. > > > and I get to call you a sour little plum. > > And you become a sleazeball when you're responding to a > hostile challenge. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Curtis, In your new Avatar as the Mr. Nice Guy, > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you trying to parrot Judy's "Mr. Wonderful" putdown > > > > > > to score points with her? That is so cute. Usually > > > > > > opening with a vague ad hominem would make me skip the > > > > > > rest but if you are going for a pat on the head, I'll > > > > > > indulge you a bit more. > > > > > > > > > > That's a sleazy little trick you've picked up from Barry: > > > > > Anybody who makes a criticism that happens to be similar > > > > > to one Judy has made is only doing it to get Judy's > > > > > approval; it's not possible that two people could come > > > > > to similar conclusions independently. > > > > > > > > Mastering a little inadvertent irony are we? > > > > > > It's just a *wee* bit different when the conclusions > > > are patently bogus and self-serving. > > > > > > > Therefore there's > > > > > really only *one* person who makes that criticism, so > > > > > it can be considered an outlier, an anomaly, and dismissed > > > > > without consideration. > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and never, *ever* look to see whether Judy seems to be > > > > > into the point-awarding, head-patting game with the person > > > > > whose criticism you're claiming has been made to gain her > > > > > approval. > > > > > > > > That wouldn't be necessary for the point to be valid about > > > > the other person. > > > > > > Makes it a lot less likely if the other person has no > > > reason to expect it, of course. > > > > > > > > BTW, to Ravi: This isn't a "new" Curtis Avatar, not by a > > > > > long shot. He just happens to have been working overtime > > > > > on it recently. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure Judy and Nabby > > > > > > > come against each of you guys persistently and strongly > > > > > > > but they do have a point that neither of you seem to > > > > > > > acknowledge, at least publicly. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are rambling a bit here. I acknowledge Judy all the > > > > > > time, what point do you mean? > > > > > > > > > > As if you didn't know. > > > > > > > > > > Jeez, Curtis, did you set out to demonstrate the validity > > > > > of the charge that your ethics are, well, a bit slippery? > > > > > > > > I wanted him to state it clearly rather than play the > > > > innuendo game of vague unpleasant shaming. But my ethics > > > > are just fine, thanks for asking. > > > > > > No, Curtis, your ethics *stink* when you're responding > > > to a hostile challenge. You're a dirty fighter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a sneaking suspicion that you needed some attention > > > > > > from me and were willing to get it in its positive or > > > > > > negative form. > > > > > > > > > > Ah, another sleazy move borrowed from Barry. No wonder you > > > > > refuse to criticize him. > > > > > > > > Judy just few lines above: > > > > > > > > > > > > to similar conclusions independently. > > > > > > > > > You hardly even give me a chance to write when you hand me > > > > all the best lines yourself. > > > > > > Sorry, but your attempt to use it crashes and burns in > > > its own sleaze. See above about conclusions that are > > > patently bogus and self-serving. > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > You must be unaware of brahma-raakshasa-s. > > > They are higher than mere humans and more > dangerous than most people recognize. > > For example, Vag is probably a reborn brahma-rakshasa > rather than a mere manushya-astika (i.e. vedic denier) > although he has the guna-s of both of them. Are you refferring to Vaj on FFL ? It would be interesting to hear the opinion of Jim and Rory, souls in the know on this. We already know Vaj to be one in a couple of donkeys and jackasses posting here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > Well I guess everyone is happy now. Ravi got his pat, you got > to drag Barry into a completely unrelated conversation Ravi got no pat, and the conversation was by no means unrelated to Barry. > and I get to call you a sour little plum. And you become a sleazeball when you're responding to a hostile challenge. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Curtis, In your new Avatar as the Mr. Nice Guy, > > > > > > > > > > Are you trying to parrot Judy's "Mr. Wonderful" putdown > > > > > to score points with her? That is so cute. Usually > > > > > opening with a vague ad hominem would make me skip the > > > > > rest but if you are going for a pat on the head, I'll > > > > > indulge you a bit more. > > > > > > > > That's a sleazy little trick you've picked up from Barry: > > > > Anybody who makes a criticism that happens to be similar > > > > to one Judy has made is only doing it to get Judy's > > > > approval; it's not possible that two people could come > > > > to similar conclusions independently. > > > > > > Mastering a little inadvertent irony are we? > > > > It's just a *wee* bit different when the conclusions > > are patently bogus and self-serving. > > > > > Therefore there's > > > > really only *one* person who makes that criticism, so > > > > it can be considered an outlier, an anomaly, and dismissed > > > > without consideration. > > > > > > > > Oh, and never, *ever* look to see whether Judy seems to be > > > > into the point-awarding, head-patting game with the person > > > > whose criticism you're claiming has been made to gain her > > > > approval. > > > > > > That wouldn't be necessary for the point to be valid about > > > the other person. > > > > Makes it a lot less likely if the other person has no > > reason to expect it, of course. > > > > > > BTW, to Ravi: This isn't a "new" Curtis Avatar, not by a > > > > long shot. He just happens to have been working overtime > > > > on it recently. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure Judy and Nabby > > > > > > come against each of you guys persistently and strongly > > > > > > but they do have a point that neither of you seem to > > > > > > acknowledge, at least publicly. > > > > > > > > > > You are rambling a bit here. I acknowledge Judy all the > > > > > time, what point do you mean? > > > > > > > > As if you didn't know. > > > > > > > > Jeez, Curtis, did you set out to demonstrate the validity > > > > of the charge that your ethics are, well, a bit slippery? > > > > > > I wanted him to state it clearly rather than play the > > > innuendo game of vague unpleasant shaming. But my ethics > > > are just fine, thanks for asking. > > > > No, Curtis, your ethics *stink* when you're responding > > to a hostile challenge. You're a dirty fighter. > > > > > > > > > > > I have a sneaking suspicion that you needed some attention > > > > > from me and were willing to get it in its positive or > > > > > negative form. > > > > > > > > Ah, another sleazy move borrowed from Barry. No wonder you > > > > refuse to criticize him. > > > > > > Judy just few lines above: > > > > > > > > > to similar conclusions independently. > > > > > > > You hardly even give me a chance to write when you hand me > > > all the best lines yourself. > > > > Sorry, but your attempt to use it crashes and burns in > > its own sleaze. See above about conclusions that are > > patently bogus and self-serving. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
Well I guess everyone is happy now. Ravi got his pat, you got to drag Barry into a completely unrelated conversation and I get to call you a sour little plum. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Curtis, In your new Avatar as the Mr. Nice Guy, > > > > > > > > Are you trying to parrot Judy's "Mr. Wonderful" putdown > > > > to score points with her? That is so cute. Usually > > > > opening with a vague ad hominem would make me skip the > > > > rest but if you are going for a pat on the head, I'll > > > > indulge you a bit more. > > > > > > That's a sleazy little trick you've picked up from Barry: > > > Anybody who makes a criticism that happens to be similar > > > to one Judy has made is only doing it to get Judy's > > > approval; it's not possible that two people could come > > > to similar conclusions independently. > > > > Mastering a little inadvertent irony are we? > > It's just a *wee* bit different when the conclusions > are patently bogus and self-serving. > > > Therefore there's > > > really only *one* person who makes that criticism, so > > > it can be considered an outlier, an anomaly, and dismissed > > > without consideration. > > > > > > Oh, and never, *ever* look to see whether Judy seems to be > > > into the point-awarding, head-patting game with the person > > > whose criticism you're claiming has been made to gain her > > > approval. > > > > That wouldn't be necessary for the point to be valid about > > the other person. > > Makes it a lot less likely if the other person has no > reason to expect it, of course. > > > > BTW, to Ravi: This isn't a "new" Curtis Avatar, not by a > > > long shot. He just happens to have been working overtime > > > on it recently. > > > > > > > > > > > Sure Judy and Nabby > > > > > come against each of you guys persistently and strongly > > > > > but they do have a point that neither of you seem to > > > > > acknowledge, at least publicly. > > > > > > > > You are rambling a bit here. I acknowledge Judy all the > > > > time, what point do you mean? > > > > > > As if you didn't know. > > > > > > Jeez, Curtis, did you set out to demonstrate the validity > > > of the charge that your ethics are, well, a bit slippery? > > > > I wanted him to state it clearly rather than play the > > innuendo game of vague unpleasant shaming. But my ethics > > are just fine, thanks for asking. > > No, Curtis, your ethics *stink* when you're responding > to a hostile challenge. You're a dirty fighter. > > > > > > > > I have a sneaking suspicion that you needed some attention > > > > from me and were willing to get it in its positive or > > > > negative form. > > > > > > Ah, another sleazy move borrowed from Barry. No wonder you > > > refuse to criticize him. > > > > Judy just few lines above: > > > > > > to similar conclusions independently. > > > > > You hardly even give me a chance to write when you hand me > > all the best lines yourself. > > Sorry, but your attempt to use it crashes and burns in > its own sleaze. See above about conclusions that are > patently bogus and self-serving. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Curtis, In your new Avatar as the Mr. Nice Guy, > > > > > > Are you trying to parrot Judy's "Mr. Wonderful" putdown > > > to score points with her? That is so cute. Usually > > > opening with a vague ad hominem would make me skip the > > > rest but if you are going for a pat on the head, I'll > > > indulge you a bit more. > > > > That's a sleazy little trick you've picked up from Barry: > > Anybody who makes a criticism that happens to be similar > > to one Judy has made is only doing it to get Judy's > > approval; it's not possible that two people could come > > to similar conclusions independently. > > Mastering a little inadvertent irony are we? It's just a *wee* bit different when the conclusions are patently bogus and self-serving. > Therefore there's > > really only *one* person who makes that criticism, so > > it can be considered an outlier, an anomaly, and dismissed > > without consideration. > > > > Oh, and never, *ever* look to see whether Judy seems to be > > into the point-awarding, head-patting game with the person > > whose criticism you're claiming has been made to gain her > > approval. > > That wouldn't be necessary for the point to be valid about > the other person. Makes it a lot less likely if the other person has no reason to expect it, of course. > > BTW, to Ravi: This isn't a "new" Curtis Avatar, not by a > > long shot. He just happens to have been working overtime > > on it recently. > > > > > > > > Sure Judy and Nabby > > > > come against each of you guys persistently and strongly > > > > but they do have a point that neither of you seem to > > > > acknowledge, at least publicly. > > > > > > You are rambling a bit here. I acknowledge Judy all the > > > time, what point do you mean? > > > > As if you didn't know. > > > > Jeez, Curtis, did you set out to demonstrate the validity > > of the charge that your ethics are, well, a bit slippery? > > I wanted him to state it clearly rather than play the > innuendo game of vague unpleasant shaming. But my ethics > are just fine, thanks for asking. No, Curtis, your ethics *stink* when you're responding to a hostile challenge. You're a dirty fighter. > > > > > I have a sneaking suspicion that you needed some attention > > > from me and were willing to get it in its positive or > > > negative form. > > > > Ah, another sleazy move borrowed from Barry. No wonder you > > refuse to criticize him. > > Judy just few lines above: > > > to similar conclusions independently. > > > You hardly even give me a chance to write when you hand me > all the best lines yourself. Sorry, but your attempt to use it crashes and burns in its own sleaze. See above about conclusions that are patently bogus and self-serving.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
You must be unaware of brahma-raakshasa-s. They are higher than mere humans and more dangerous than most people recognize. For example, Vag is probably a reborn brahma-rakshasa rather than a mere manushya-astika (i.e. vedic denier) although he has the guna-s of both of them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardwillytexwilliams" wrote: > > > > Bhairitu: > > Of course but until they fall down you have to fight > > them or they will harm you. I don't think you would > > want to stand around and just let a mythical rakshasa > > eat you alive... > > > You guys need to read a history book. In the Ramayana > it is Rama the Hindu that calls the Buddhists of Ceylon > 'rakshasas' and try to kill them. Get some smarts! > > The term 'rakshasas' you are using stands for racial > purity of the Caucasian race. Why are you two insisting > on speaking a language you can't even understand? > > You got everything backwards! > > > > According to vedic literature, human beings are > > actually higher than the rakshasas in the natural > > > order of things on earth. So, the wickedness of the > > rakshasas become their own downfall, e.g. Hitler and > > the Third Reich... >
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
>From Democrat Franklin Delano Roosevelt, January 20, 1944 Mr. Chief Justice, Mr. Vice President, my friends, you will understand and, I believe, agree with my wish that the form of this inauguration be simple and its words brief. We Americans of today, together with our allies, are passing through a period of supreme test. It is a test of our courage--of our resolve--of our wisdom--our essential democracy. If we meet that test--successfully and honorably--we shall perform a service of historic importance which men and women and children will honor throughout all time. As I stand here today, having taken the solemn oath of office in the presence of my fellow countrymen--in the presence of our God--I know that it is America's purpose that we shall not fail. In the days and in the years that are to come we shall work for a just and honorable peace, a durable peace, as today we work and fight for total victory in war. We can and we will achieve such a peace. We shall strive for perfection. We shall not achieve it immediately--but we still shall strive. We may make mistakes--but they must never be mistakes which result from faintness of heart or abandonment of moral principle. I remember that my old schoolmaster, Dr. Peabody, said, in days that seemed to us then to be secure and untroubled: "Things in life will not always run smoothly. Sometimes we will be rising toward the heights--then all will seem to reverse itself and start downward. The great fact to remember is that the trend of civilization itself is forever upward; that a line drawn through the middle of the peaks and the valleys of the centuries always has an upward trend." Our Constitution of 1787 was not a perfect instrument; it is not perfect yet. But it provided a firm base upon which all manner of men, of all races and colors and creeds, could build our solid structure of democracy. And so today, in this year of war, 1945, we have learned lessons--at a fearful cost--and we shall profit by them. We have learned that we cannot live alone, at peace; that our own well-being is dependent on the well-being of other nations far away. We have learned that we must live as men, not as ostriches, nor as dogs in the manger. We have learned to be citizens of the world, members of the human community. We have learned the simple truth, as Emerson said, that "The only way to have a friend is to be one." We can gain no lasting peace if we approach it with suspicion and mistrust or with fear. We can gain it only if we proceed with the understanding, the confidence, and the courage which flow from conviction. The Almighty God has blessed our land in many ways. He has given our people stout hearts and strong arms with which to strike mighty blows for freedom and truth. He has given to our country a faith which has become the hope of all peoples in an anguished world. So we pray to Him now for the vision to see our way clearly--to see the way that leads to a better life for ourselves and for all our fellow men--to the achievement of His will to peace on earth.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > You're welcome, Richard. I'm glad. > Well, he definitely was my master from '71 till the late '70s or early '80s, Benjaim's Masters informs that Maharishi had the point of evolution at the time of dropping the body as being 3,3. According to Thesophists this is close to universal Masterhood. It is interesting to note that Mr. Creme's Master confirms that Jesus of Nazareth had the point of evolution of 3,0 at the time of dropping the body. Earlier it has been infomed that the level of evolution, as the only person on this earth, 7,0 belongs to Lord Maitreya. The point of evolution of Guru Dev at dropping the body was 6,0. From what I understand this is the most developed point of evolution ever recorded "below" our belowed our dear eldest Brother, Maitreya. Read more; http://www.shareintl.org/magazine/old_issues/2011/2011-06.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: > The republican party and it's members have turned into raksashas, as M would have said... > > They are on a twisted destructive journey of who knows where...except to amp up fear and trepidation, what they live on... > > Time warrents an all out asault of the 'Light of God' to conteract this very dark force, which is revealing itself, in all its meaness and lack of any compassion... .r > >That's funny, I was just going to say the same thing about Democrats...but add *phony* to the list, shaazam! >From Republican Abraham Lincoln, March 4, 1865 At this second appearing to take the oath of the presidential office, there is less occasion for an extended address than there was at the first. Then a statement, somewhat in detail, of a course to be pursued, seemed fitting and proper. Now, at the expiration of four years, during which public declarations have been constantly called forth on every point and phase of the great contest which still absorbs the attention, and engrosses the energies of the nation, little that is new could be presented. The progress of our arms, upon which all else chiefly depends, is as well known to the public as to myself; and it is, I trust, reasonably satisfactory and encouraging to all. With high hope for the future, no prediction in regard to it is ventured. On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago, all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil war. All dreaded it--all sought to avert it. While the inaugeral [sic] address was being delivered from this place, devoted altogether to saving the Union without war, insurgent agents were in the city seeking to destroy it without war--seeking to dissole [sic] the Union, and divide effects, by negotiation. Both parties deprecated war; but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive; and the other would accept war rather than let it perish. And the war came. One eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the Southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was, somehow, the cause of the war. To strengthen, perpetuate, and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union, even by war; while the government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it. Neither party expected for the war, the magnitude, or the duration, which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with, or even before, the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible, and pray to the same God; and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces; but let us judge not that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered; that of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has his own purposes. "Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!" If we shall suppose that American Slavery is one of those offences which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South, this terrible war, as the woe due to those by whom the offence came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a Living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope--fervently do we pray--that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue, until all the wealth piled by the bond-man's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash, shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord, are true and righteous altogether" With malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation's wounds; to care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan--to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace, among ourselves, and with all nations.
[FairfieldLife] Re: "Negativity in the pursuit of the positive is no sin"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > The Subject line is my reworking of Barry Goldwater's famous > "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no sin." Actually it went like this: "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice [not "sin"]Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." > One of the trends I've been noticing lately (you know > how I love to look for trends) -- again NOT just on FFL Maybe not just on FFL, but don't be fooled into thinking the "trend" Barry wants to invoke is anything but his own situation here. > -- is that some multi-decade spiritual seekers seem to > have come away from their travels along the path feeling > that pretty much anything is "fair game" when it comes > to defending the ideas they believe in or the teachers > who taught these things to them. They seem to think that > it's perfectly OK to call the people who disagree with > them childish names, or indulge in long character > assassination vendettas to discredit them in the eyes of > other posters. And then there are those who excuse their obnoxious behavior by pretending that those who criticize it do so only because they hold different beliefs than the critic. That excuse becomes transparently bogus when it turns out that their critics don't criticize other people who hold different beliefs but whose behavior isn't obnoxious. > OK, this is an indisputable trend. Even the folks who > might indulge in it here (myself being one of them in > the past, and trying to learn from it) But failing repeatedly, including in this post. > Some make up names for the individual heretics, or > "group names" into which to bag them for the purposes > of demonization. "Anti-TMers" or "Buddhists" are two > of the latter that spring to mind when thinking of FFL. Of course, "anti-TMers" hasn't been used in quite some time on FFL (except by Barry) because the folks who were so characterized raised a huge fuss and insisted it was "demonizing." In fact, it never was a pejorative. The term originated on alt.m.t as a shorthand to distinguish TM supporters from TM critics. But because it was portrayed on FFL as a putdown, the term "TM critics" was substituted. (Oddly enough, even that term has been denounced as somehow demonizing, although no substitute that would be acceptable has been proposed.) Interestingly enough, the TM critics don't seem to see anything wrong with using pejorative terms for TM supporters, e.g., "TM TBs," "TM apologists," "TM fanatics." > Some even come up with reasons why. The idea of > "casting one's pearls before swine" has been presented > lately as a justification for why they don't ever write > anything positive about the path or teacher they revere. > Well, you'll have to excuse me, but that 'tude speaks > volumes to me about how that particular path or teacher > views anyone who doesn't agree with them -- as swine. But not surprising given that when they *do* say something positive, they themselves are treated as if they were swine by the TM critics. In any case, the description above is a misrepresentation. "Pearls before swine" was not a reason given for never writing anything positive, first because the person in question has written a great deal that's positive; and second because it was said specifically about telling personal stories of experiences with Maharishi, not made as a general statement about "anything positive" having to do with TM. > That, to me, is not really the effective "intro > lecture" I'd be looking for to convince me of the > positive benefits of the path or teacher in question. > > I don't think that this behavior -- focusing on the > "against" while never quite stating what they are "for" > -- is likely to change. The real question is whether the behavior ever existed in the first place. In my observation, there's plenty written here by the people being demonized in this post that's positive. On the other hand, I'm not at all sure that lurkers come here for an "intro lecture." I think in many if not most cases they come here because they've run into some of the negative accusations made by TM critics elsewhere on the Web and want to know whether they're valid. > Similarly, on forums where people have "stepped out of > the way" by refusing to continue to engage in the battles > other posters might attempt to lure them into, or > reacting with a Zen "Is that so?" attitude to ad hominems, > in my experience as a watcher of trends, the consistent > "against" folks consistently *keep* pushing against. Often > they're fighting against imaginary opponents, because the > people they're trying to demonize or goad into an argument > just *aren't there* for them any more. And another odd premise, akin to a child's belief that "you can't see me because my eyes are closed": if a person pretends not to see criticism of himself, that person somehow ceases to exist and becomes a figment of the imagination of the critic--even though the person co
[FairfieldLife] Huge Crop Circle appears 23 July
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
You're welcome, Richard. I'm glad. Well, he definitely was my master from '71 till the late '70s or early '80s, but, after that, no. If we take the reality, I don't feel he would qualify as a true master. If we can hold some idealized version of him, I suppose we could keep him as a master. I think Guru Dev would much more readily qualify as true master. But perhaps it is time for us to move beyond masters. That was a viable way to grow spiritually in the past, but, perhaps, not so much now. I think our times call more for us to find our own way, or to find teachers who will accept us without demanding that they be masters, teachers who serve us well from where we currently are, but who acknowledge their own imperfections and that not all they teach will perfectly serve everyone. Hope this helps, m On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:45 PM, richardnelson108 wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Thanks so much for all your recent posts. They have really been a wonderful > read and very insightful. > > Since you had the opportunity to experience Maharishi in a way that most of > us never did, I am wondering how you feel about Maharishi being a "master", > and if you feel or felt that he was or is your personal master? Its an area > that I have gone back and forth on many times throughout my life and still > hold some confusion about. > There is no question that TM has worked for me and that being around him was > very powerful, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is in the league of a > true master, particularly with all of the things that just don't make sense > about him. > > Your insight would be most helpful 5'm sure if you don't mind. > > Thanks > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:43 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > Fruitful, fruitful! You continue to be a huge addition to the content > > > here Mark. Your exchange with Robin on your experiences with Maharishi > > > were fascinating. > > > > > > I was surprised to learn that Bevan wasn't a skin boy. I thought that was > > > one of his claims to fame when he was first with Maharishi in India. > > > > > > The mega intense world at Maharishi's door is so worthy of a book, many > > > books for each person who wants to tell this story. One of the most > > > fascinating books I have read was by Mao's personal physician. You get an > > > insight into his character you get nowhere else. Same for you guys in the > > > hot seat carrying the hot seat. Any details you sprinkle here will fall > > > on many delighted ears. I enjoy your divine experiences as much as any > > > insights into the more human side of Maharishi. > > > > > Thank you, Curtis > > > > When I knew Bevan in the 70s, he confided in me that he was always jealous > > of the skin boys because he had never gotten to do it himself. I don't know > > what happened after I left, in '76. My guess is that he never really played > > that roll, that M had bigger and better ideas for him and didn't want to > > jeopardize them. I would think, though, he got to physically carry the skin > > in brief, sporadic situations, but not in the traditional up close and > > personal way for long periods of time. Please correct me, anyone, if they > > know more. > > > > I started to write a book about it, but decided to let others do that. One > > of those things... > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed
Overdose = suicide as far as I am concerned. To be so careless with one's life as to lose it by accidentally ingesting enough toxic substance to kill oneself is suicide. Typically the end result of years of self-destructive behavior. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > Seriously, they all killed themselves at 27? That's spooky. > > Overdose, I believe, not necessarily suicide. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick > > > > of losing people to this shit. > > > > > > > > At her best: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rs&playnext=1&list=PL2D4F755C610950CA > > > > > > > > > > At 27, like Jim, Jimi, Janis, Brian, Kurt... >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > > > > > Curtis, In your new Avatar as the Mr. Nice Guy, > > > > Are you trying to parrot Judy's "Mr. Wonderful" putdown > > to score points with her? That is so cute. Usually > > opening with a vague ad hominem would make me skip the > > rest but if you are going for a pat on the head, I'll > > indulge you a bit more. > > That's a sleazy little trick you've picked up from Barry: > Anybody who makes a criticism that happens to be similar > to one Judy has made is only doing it to get Judy's > approval; it's not possible that two people could come > to similar conclusions independently. Mastering a little inadvertent irony are we? Therefore there's > really only *one* person who makes that criticism, so > it can be considered an outlier, an anomaly, and dismissed > without consideration. > > Oh, and never, *ever* look to see whether Judy seems to be > into the point-awarding, head-patting game with the person > whose criticism you're claiming has been made to gain her > approval. That wouldn't be necessary for the point to be valid about the other person. > > BTW, to Ravi: This isn't a "new" Curtis Avatar, not by a > long shot. He just happens to have been working overtime > on it recently. > > > > > Sure Judy and Nabby > > > come against each of you guys persistently and strongly > > > but they do have a point that neither of you seem to > > > acknowledge, at least publicly. > > > > You are rambling a bit here. I acknowledge Judy all the > > time, what point do you mean? > > As if you didn't know. > > Jeez, Curtis, did you set out to demonstrate the validity > of the charge that your ethics are, well, a bit slippery? I wanted him to state it clearly rather than play the innuendo game of vague unpleasant shaming. But my ethics are just fine, thanks for asking. > > > > I have a sneaking suspicion that you needed some attention > > from me and were willing to get it in its positive or > > negative form. > > Ah, another sleazy move borrowed from Barry. No wonder you > refuse to criticize him. Judy just few lines above: to similar conclusions independently. > You hardly even give me a chance to write when you hand me all the best lines yourself. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm "for"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > Might I suggest that others on this forum similarly > watch the reaction to my suggestion that the "anti" > posters on this forum seem incapable of ever posting > anything that they are "for?" My prediction is that > few of them will even try. I think most people here, even Barry, are well aware of what I'm for, but just for the heck of it: --Above all else, I'm for honesty, authenticity, sincerity, fairness, and transparency. --I'm for respecting different belief systems, no matter how weird they may seem (as long as they don't hurt anybody), and for respecting the people who hold them. --I'm for stating one's preferences and beliefs without either exalting oneself for holding them, or putting down those whose preferences and beliefs are different. --I'm for expressing one's opinion only after having thought it through thoroughly and carefully, researching it if necessary, and making sure one's expression of that opinion is as clear and meaningful as one can make it. --I'm for being willing to engage in dialogue about one's opinions, to have one's opinions challenged, and to take thoughtful challenges seriously, to see if those opinions need further thought and possibly refinement and adjustment. --I'm for consistency in one's thinking, but also for not being afraid to change one's mind when appropriate. If one does change one's mind, I'm for making it clear that one has done so. --I'm for being as scrupulous as possible about factual accuracy, even if it requires doing some research to make sure one's facts are correct. --I'm for being accountable, for taking responsibility for what one says. I'm for admitting it when one finds one is wrong, and for apologizing if one has wronged someone else. --I'm for taking a stand against what one perceives to be wrong, and for defending people and ideas against unfair attack, regardless of whether one agrees with them. There's more, but that's a start.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > > > Curtis, In your new Avatar as the Mr. Nice Guy, > > Are you trying to parrot Judy's "Mr. Wonderful" putdown > to score points with her? That is so cute. Usually > opening with a vague ad hominem would make me skip the > rest but if you are going for a pat on the head, I'll > indulge you a bit more. That's a sleazy little trick you've picked up from Barry: Anybody who makes a criticism that happens to be similar to one Judy has made is only doing it to get Judy's approval; it's not possible that two people could come to similar conclusions independently. Therefore there's really only *one* person who makes that criticism, so it can be considered an outlier, an anomaly, and dismissed without consideration. Oh, and never, *ever* look to see whether Judy seems to be into the point-awarding, head-patting game with the person whose criticism you're claiming has been made to gain her approval. BTW, to Ravi: This isn't a "new" Curtis Avatar, not by a long shot. He just happens to have been working overtime on it recently. > > Sure Judy and Nabby > > come against each of you guys persistently and strongly > > but they do have a point that neither of you seem to > > acknowledge, at least publicly. > > You are rambling a bit here. I acknowledge Judy all the > time, what point do you mean? As if you didn't know. Jeez, Curtis, did you set out to demonstrate the validity of the charge that your ethics are, well, a bit slippery? > I have a sneaking suspicion that you needed some attention > from me and were willing to get it in its positive or > negative form. Ah, another sleazy move borrowed from Barry. No wonder you refuse to criticize him.
[FairfieldLife] Video: Max Keiser on US Military Spending
Max interviews Chilean blogger Gonzalo Lira ( LiraSPG.com ) who provides an excellent overview of the present US financial situation particularly with regard to military spending and bad decision making. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc2j7kSBTLo Like I said we shouldn't have bailed out the banks in 2008. And B of A is in trouble again.
[FairfieldLife] Inside Scientology
Reporter Janet Reitman Peers 'Inside Scientology' Audio for this story from All Things Considered will be available at approx. 7:00 p.m. ET July 23, 2011 In the 1930s, L. Ron Hubbard was a pulp fiction writer, best known for his fantasy and science fiction stories. But after an attempt at Hollywood screenwriting, Hubbard decided to go a different route. In 1950, he published Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health, a self-help book that became a bestseller and launched a new religion. That religion was Scientology, and six decades since it began, much is still unclear about the church, its history and its current leader, David Miscavige, who took over shortly after Hubbard's death. Journalist Janet Reitman spent more than five years combing through confidential papers and memos, visiting various Scientology centers and interviewing church members past and present for her book, Inside Scientology: The Story of America's Most Secretive Religion. Reitman tells weekends on All Things Considered host Guy Raz that under Miscavige the church has grown. "He has given it a certain mainstream appeal," she says, "[and] he's put an emphasis on building churches, expanding their physical presence." But this expansion has not come without its costs, the author explains. Miscavige's leadership style has caused some high-ranking members, including former spokesperson Mike Rinder, to leave and form their own independent movement. "He has made Scientology itself very rigid," Reitman says, "and within the management of Scientology, he's imposed an incredibly punitive system where people basically live in fear of him." The Celebrity Factor Some of the Church's most famous members are celebrities such as Tom Cruise, John Travolta and Kirstie Alley. Reitmen says these members are often subjected to a more intense form of "auditing" â" what Scientologists refer to as "spiritual counseling." "The members reveal a tremendous amount of personal information," she explains. "So that stuff is all basically filed away. The innermost secrets, the most personal secrets, are part of the record of the Church of Scientology. And, you know, would they release that information if somebody like Cruise or Travolta decided to leave and denounce the church? That I think is a credible fear." Scientology also has been scrutinized for the way it is "militantly against" psychiatry and psychiatric drugs, Reitman says. The church has created an alternative drug-treatment program called Narconon. "The Church of Scientology you know, sort of presents an alternative, and I'm not sure that alternative is workable," Reitman says. "I think that alternative can be very harmful depending on how far you go with it and that's what I think is threatening." The Church Responds When given an opportunity to respond, the Church of Scientology sent NPR an 11-page statement that began: "Ms. Reitman's book is filled with inaccuracies. It is neither scholarly nor well-researched and bears no resemblance to an "inside" story." http://www.npr.org/2011/07/23/138475723/reporter-janet-reitman-peers-inside-scientology
[FairfieldLife] Re: Freemason kills at least 84??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > http://truthfrequencynews.com/?p=6853 > > Illuminati-Freemason Mind Controled Slave Anders Behring > Breivik Identified As Suspect In Norway Shooting We know very little about the guy yet, but there's no evidence I'm aware of that Freemasonry had anything to do with his actions, although he is a Mason. It's odd that he would be a Mason, since he's pretty clearly a right-winger and is said to be a fundamentalist Christian; these groups are typically very strongly anti-Mason. And while the membership of Freemasonry is diverse, typically it's rather broad-minded. If anyone is interested, Mother Jones has a collection of his postings to the Norwegian anti-Muslim Web site Document.no: http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/07/anders-behring-breiviks-online-comments http://tinyurl.com/3b4pw77 Although the translations are a bit rough, it's clear that he's quite intelligent and, at least at the time he made the postings, very coherent.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish Explanation for the USA Debt-Ceiling Controversy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > The reasons for the Congressional disagreement relating to the debt-ceiling > legislation are due to the malefic graha influences on the 12th house, the > field of loss and expenditures, in the USA kundali. Specifically, > > > > 1. Rahu is debilitated in Scorpio or Vrishika, the 12th bhava of the > > national chart. This means that both major political parties in Congress > > are blinded by ideological differences. Thus, they are unable to come up > > with a compromise or solution to the problem. > > > > 2. Saturn, a malefic graha, is aspecting Rahu from Kanya, the 10th bhava. > > This means that the reduction of economic growth and revenues has > > contributed to deficit spending and national debt. > > > > 3. Mars, another malefic graha, is aspecting Rahu from Vrishaba, the 6th > > bhava of the national chart. This means that the various wars in Iraq and > > Afghanistan have contributed to the problems in deficit spending. > > > > 4. Ketu, another malefic graha, is debilitated in Vrishaba and in > > conjunction with Mars or Kuja. This indicates the mindless preoccupation > > of the US politician in the eradication of terrorists throughout the world. > > Thus, the USA has conducted various wars that it could not afford. > > > > Conclusion: > > > > Even though both major parties are not happy with the tentative compromise, > > they will have to approve the debt-ceiling due to the negative effects of > > having the US default on its debts to creditors. > > > > The approved legislation will have many complicated terms which would > > require the president to step in and perhaps exercise a controversial > > executive power by raising the debt-ceiling himself without Congressional > > approval. > Nice analysis...but I can see.. They just can't stop the war and the games of war.. 'Bang, bang...you're dead...like kids playing killing games... Been like this for quite sometime, now... So many politicians get re-elected for getting the militay contracts for the people of their State... The Military eats up so much wealth, for so little return if any, and what we get instead, is a hardening of the heart of our society, and much damage and waste of resources... This hopefully will phase out, if enough people wake up and demand an end to the wasteful and addictive spending... The so-called 'War on Drugs' also takes Billions of Dollars out of the economy and support various MAFIA and CIA type...operations.. And these people work behind the scenes to keep the whole thing going in some kind of trance...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > Seriously, they all killed themselves at 27? That's spooky. Overdose, I believe, not necessarily suicide. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of > > > losing people to this shit. > > > > > > At her best: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rs&playnext=1&list=PL2D4F755C610950CA > > > > > > > At 27, like Jim, Jimi, Janis, Brian, Kurt...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed
Seriously, they all killed themselves at 27? That's spooky. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of > > losing people to this shit. > > > > At her best: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rs&playnext=1&list=PL2D4F755C610950CA > > > > At 27, like Jim, Jimi, Janis, Brian, Kurt... >
[FairfieldLife] Ronald Reagan on debt ceilings
He's probably rolling over in his grave at the activities of today's Republicans. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6nNJiJsm70 Conservatives hate this video, BTW. :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 07/23/2011 12:19 PM, wayback71 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >> On 07/23/2011 11:23 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > >>> We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of > >>> losing people to this shit. > >>> > >>> At her best: > >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rs&playnext=1&list=PL2D4F755C610950CA > >> Legalize all recreational drugs. Use taxes from it to help educate > >> people from grade school on up as to how these work and why people take > >> them. > > Bhairi - I work in a school. Kids at all grade levels have been educated > > for many many years now, ad nauseum, about drug use, alcohol, smoking, > > what it all does to the brain and body and not to start. Things is, some > > kids just do it all anyway and need some way to alleviate their > > anxiety/stress/whatever. Maybe it would help a bit if some rock stars come > > out and do some ads suggesting never starting. And also promote starting > > to meditate, do yoga etc, as you suggest below. But lack of knowledge is > > not the problem any more. > > I also meant to mention "peer pressure." Some people can get into drugs > and take or leave them. I'm sure you've know people like that. And > others develop a dependency on drugs. Many people feel a need to keep > up with their peers. They need to know that they shouldn't and it's > even a bad idea. The music scene is horrible to deal with unless you > are real individual and stand up to the peer pressure that goes on there. > > People need to also understand themselves. Believe it or not I've seen > codependency markers in horoscopes. But we can't expect a dumbass > society to ever look at real horoscopes as a tool. Years ago I spoke with someone who looked at the horoscopes of several psychiatric patients in a particular psychiatrist's office (prior patient permission given, but astrologer had no info on the patients other than birthdate and time) and was able to tell the dr just what was going on with the patients in terms of reason for the problem and diagnosis. He did this while in a graduate program at Harvard in the 70's. Never published, just an experiment. He says the psychiatrist was amazed at the accuracy and some of the insights. Astrology will never be taken seriously until some really good research is done and redone to prove, or disprove, its accuracy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
Nice questions, wayback. As little as I find myself being interested in Maharishi himself these days, I would be very interested to hear Mark's response, because as you say he expresses his experiences very well, and IMO a well-balanced manner. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > Mark, if you reconsider and decide to write that book (maybe a few of you should get together, brainstorm your memories and get the thing written) that would be of interest to many of of us. - I think it would sell and not just to TM'ers. If you don't do the book, I for one would be delighted to read more of these memories and stories. You have a wonderfully thoughtful way of writing about them, including the ambiguity. > > If you care to answer any or all - > > Were you there when the spaceship supposedly landed in Mallorca and MMY was driven to the beach and got on for a while? If so, what hapened? I was on TCC there then (Fall 1971 and early winter of 1972 til the move to Fiuggi) but not up that late at night. > > You say you saw angels, devas. Did you ever see anything on a subtle level that indicated that MMY was not on his best behavior or had an entirely human side as well? (ie did his energy change or darken) > > How did Maharishi chose you as skin boy? > > Was there any talk among the inner circle staff about doubts and concerns (especially when people got burned out and decided to leave), suspicions about meetings with Judith? Or were you all so heavily drugged by the bliss? > > What was the single most powerful experience you had in your time around MMY? > > Were you around to see the introduction of the siddhis? If so, how did that come about from your perspective? > > Do you still do TM? > > Was it worth it, the growth and bliss versus the lengthy process of disillusionment of your dreams? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" rick@ wrote: > > > > Thanks for this Mark. Awesome post. > > > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] > > On Behalf Of Mark Landau > > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:22 PM > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow, are we one dimensional? I believe it's the sign of a developed being > > that he or she can easily hold all the paradoxes. Not only can I have it > > both ways, but I must have it both ways and, beyond that, have it all ways > > that were, are or ever will be, if I am to do any justice to truth and > > reality. That's a lot of ways. I also believe that, ultimately, we must go > > beyond all the paradoxes and polarities, including the polarity of good and > > bad (and that, of course, doesn't mean that we rush out to do all the "bad" > > things we possibly can ASAP). > > > > > > > > The truth of the matter, if anyone cares, is that, like Judith Bourke, who I > > find to be a wonderful, honest person, I was in love with him (no, prurient > > ones, not that way, though there are things I could say about that, too) and > > the notion and seeming experience that TM could transform the world for the > > better. Why else would I work seven days a week for the movement for nearly > > five years and pay significantly to do so? Are we not all some blend of the > > three gunas? Aren't there glorious and dark things about all of us? > > > > > > > > M was no different. One of the most glorious things about him was his > > energy. I lived and basked in it pretty much straight for the seven months > > I was skin boy and for a lot of the five years I was with him. I went > > through withdrawal for two years when I lost it. > > > > > > > > That's my voice in the background of DWTF when David cut to the archival > > footage of M entering the hall with Jerry carrying the skin saying something > > like, "It was like divine air came down from heaven and I got addicted to > > it." Is that so very negative? > > > > > > > > In one other sentence I said something like, "Remember how I said he could > > get into you and help you sleep? He could also get into you and completely > > pulverize you." Is that both "negative" and "positive"? Of course, > > one-dimensional believers would say having M pulverize you would be the > > greatest blessing. It could only be all positive. But what if he did it > > because he was pissed, out of sorts or sexually frustrated? Yes, IME, he > > definitely got sexually frustrated. In my total reworking of his own words, > > the only man in all of recored history that anyone knew about who lived > > beyond the libido was Sukadeva. > > > > > > > > I also said in the movie, "It took me a while to put the paradox together. > > How could he be wonderful and awful at the same time? Well, that's just how > > it was. He was wonderful and awful at the same time." David filmed me for > > over two hours and he used the several minutes that suited his purpose in > > segueing from the more positiv
[FairfieldLife] Jyotish Explanation for the USA Debt-Ceiling Controversy
The reasons for the Congressional disagreement relating to the debt-ceiling legislation are due to the malefic graha influences on the 12th house, the field of loss and expenditures, in the USA kundali. Specifically, > > 1. Rahu is debilitated in Scorpio or Vrishika, the 12th bhava of the > national chart. This means that both major political parties in Congress are > blinded by ideological differences. Thus, they are unable to come up with a > compromise or solution to the problem. > > 2. Saturn, a malefic graha, is aspecting Rahu from Kanya, the 10th bhava. > This means that the reduction of economic growth and revenues has contributed > to deficit spending and national debt. > > 3. Mars, another malefic graha, is aspecting Rahu from Vrishaba, the 6th > bhava of the national chart. This means that the various wars in Iraq and > Afghanistan have contributed to the problems in deficit spending. > > 4. Ketu, another malefic graha, is debilitated in Vrishaba and in > conjunction with Mars or Kuja. This indicates the mindless preoccupation of > the US politician in the eradication of terrorists throughout the world. > Thus, the USA has conducted various wars that it could not afford. > > Conclusion: > > Even though both major parties are not happy with the tentative compromise, > they will have to approve the debt-ceiling due to the negative effects of > having the US default on its debts to creditors. > > The approved legislation will have many complicated terms which would require > the president to step in and perhaps exercise a controversial executive power > by raising the debt-ceiling himself without Congressional approval.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
Mark, if you reconsider and decide to write that book (maybe a few of you should get together, brainstorm your memories and get the thing written) that would be of interest to many of of us. - I think it would sell and not just to TM'ers. If you don't do the book, I for one would be delighted to read more of these memories and stories. You have a wonderfully thoughtful way of writing about them, including the ambiguity. If you care to answer any or all - Were you there when the spaceship supposedly landed in Mallorca and MMY was driven to the beach and got on for a while? If so, what hapened? I was on TCC there then (Fall 1971 and early winter of 1972 til the move to Fiuggi) but not up that late at night. You say you saw angels, devas. Did you ever see anything on a subtle level that indicated that MMY was not on his best behavior or had an entirely human side as well? (ie did his energy change or darken) How did Maharishi chose you as skin boy? Was there any talk among the inner circle staff about doubts and concerns (especially when people got burned out and decided to leave), suspicions about meetings with Judith? Or were you all so heavily drugged by the bliss? What was the single most powerful experience you had in your time around MMY? Were you around to see the introduction of the siddhis? If so, how did that come about from your perspective? Do you still do TM? Was it worth it, the growth and bliss versus the lengthy process of disillusionment of your dreams? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > Thanks for this Mark. Awesome post. > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Mark Landau > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:22 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals > > > > > > Wow, are we one dimensional? I believe it's the sign of a developed being > that he or she can easily hold all the paradoxes. Not only can I have it > both ways, but I must have it both ways and, beyond that, have it all ways > that were, are or ever will be, if I am to do any justice to truth and > reality. That's a lot of ways. I also believe that, ultimately, we must go > beyond all the paradoxes and polarities, including the polarity of good and > bad (and that, of course, doesn't mean that we rush out to do all the "bad" > things we possibly can ASAP). > > > > The truth of the matter, if anyone cares, is that, like Judith Bourke, who I > find to be a wonderful, honest person, I was in love with him (no, prurient > ones, not that way, though there are things I could say about that, too) and > the notion and seeming experience that TM could transform the world for the > better. Why else would I work seven days a week for the movement for nearly > five years and pay significantly to do so? Are we not all some blend of the > three gunas? Aren't there glorious and dark things about all of us? > > > > M was no different. One of the most glorious things about him was his > energy. I lived and basked in it pretty much straight for the seven months > I was skin boy and for a lot of the five years I was with him. I went > through withdrawal for two years when I lost it. > > > > That's my voice in the background of DWTF when David cut to the archival > footage of M entering the hall with Jerry carrying the skin saying something > like, "It was like divine air came down from heaven and I got addicted to > it." Is that so very negative? > > > > In one other sentence I said something like, "Remember how I said he could > get into you and help you sleep? He could also get into you and completely > pulverize you." Is that both "negative" and "positive"? Of course, > one-dimensional believers would say having M pulverize you would be the > greatest blessing. It could only be all positive. But what if he did it > because he was pissed, out of sorts or sexually frustrated? Yes, IME, he > definitely got sexually frustrated. In my total reworking of his own words, > the only man in all of recored history that anyone knew about who lived > beyond the libido was Sukadeva. > > > > I also said in the movie, "It took me a while to put the paradox together. > How could he be wonderful and awful at the same time? Well, that's just how > it was. He was wonderful and awful at the same time." David filmed me for > over two hours and he used the several minutes that suited his purpose in > segueing from the more positive part of the film to the more negative. > > > > So I feel no conflict or contradiction in saying "In my experience, they > still carry a lot of his energy, as if the atoms and molecules have been > entrained in it. And, of course, in India, they would be holy objects to be > revered. I have kept them very well protected and have handled them very > little over the decades." and > > > > M abused women, devastated
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed
On 07/23/2011 12:19 PM, wayback71 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> On 07/23/2011 11:23 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: >>> We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of >>> losing people to this shit. >>> >>> At her best: >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rs&playnext=1&list=PL2D4F755C610950CA >> Legalize all recreational drugs. Use taxes from it to help educate >> people from grade school on up as to how these work and why people take >> them. > Bhairi - I work in a school. Kids at all grade levels have been educated for > many many years now, ad nauseum, about drug use, alcohol, smoking, what it > all does to the brain and body and not to start. Things is, some kids just > do it all anyway and need some way to alleviate their > anxiety/stress/whatever. Maybe it would help a bit if some rock stars come > out and do some ads suggesting never starting. And also promote starting to > meditate, do yoga etc, as you suggest below. But lack of knowledge is not the > problem any more. I also meant to mention "peer pressure." Some people can get into drugs and take or leave them. I'm sure you've know people like that. And others develop a dependency on drugs. Many people feel a need to keep up with their peers. They need to know that they shouldn't and it's even a bad idea. The music scene is horrible to deal with unless you are real individual and stand up to the peer pressure that goes on there. People need to also understand themselves. Believe it or not I've seen codependency markers in horoscopes. But we can't expect a dumbass society to ever look at real horoscopes as a tool.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of > losing people to this shit. > > At her best: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rs&playnext=1&list=PL2D4F755C610950CA > At 27, like Jim, Jimi, Janis, Brian, Kurt...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm "for"
On 07/22/2011 06:43 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: > re astrology: My sun sign is Gemini, with Taurus rising. My stepson is the > opposite. We get along like brothers. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > Tropical or sidereal? If tropical in sidereal you might wind up having the same sign for the ascendant. However inter family relationships are often a lot more than that such as aspect of certain planets between two charts. I've seen it time and again in families. It was topic by one of my Indian astrology teachers at a symposium. The two charts act like transits on each other. I've seen really strange ones in my family right down to the degree aspects.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > Legalize all recreational drugs. Use taxes from it to help > educate people from grade school on up as to how these work > and why people take them. This approach seems to have worked in Portugal, and in the Netherlands. Their incidence of hard drug usage is almost nil compared to the US and its "War On Drugs" mentality. > Musicians often get into downers because they were high > strung to begin with and therefore very bright to > understand the art and sciences of music and master them. > But they were often too high strung to pull off good > performances. They turn to drugs. I think a lot of it involves the realities of touring. You drive in a bus to a gig, wait around while the roadies set everything up, play your hearts out for the audience, and then the audience goes home and goes to sleep. The musicians, wired to the gills from the high of playing, can't sleep. They wait for the roadies to load up again, pile into the bus, and head for the next town. And they *still* can't sleep. So a lot of them turn to downers. And then they need uppers the next day to get up and do the same thing in the next town. As Robbie Robertson said at the end of the film The Last Waltz, "It's an unlivable lifestyle." Because I promoted rock 'n roll in college, I got to know a few musicians because we hired them for our shows. Plus, we got to party with them after the shows, so I got to see the down side of their unlivable lifestyles close up. Many of the people I met went the same way -- Janis, Jimi, Jim Morrison, Jerry Garcia. They paid their money and they took their chance. Sadly, they lost.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real cost of Android?
On 07/23/2011 08:00 AM, Vaj wrote: > On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > >> On 07/22/2011 06:29 PM, Vaj wrote: >>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Bhairitu wrote: >>> Ha, you guys are stuck with a retro 4:3 aspect screen. >>> It is true, that's the shape, but I prefer that form factor in my klutzy >>> hands. Besides, it displays in whatever aspect I prefer, at a touch - and >>> streams seamlessly to my TV, with no hassles. It just works. >>> >>> Hook it up to Netflix - and I'm streaming movies to the TV or wherever I am. >> You know that Netflix uses Microsoft Silverlight, don't you? I've read >> it has to be built for each device. They're rolling out Netflix for >> Android devices but I'm still waiting for the Acer version that will >> play video not just show you your queue and let you add movies or >> discs. My Android phone is too old to ever get it but my "ins" may >> deliver me a newer phone. That's how I got the Acer tablet. ;-) > I didn't realize that it was based on Silverlight. You'd have thought they'd > use something less proprietary. > > I use a Netflix frontend called Cinetap. I makes up for the weaknesses in the > Netflix website and apps. Reed Hastings is on the Microsoft board of directors. >> See, that's the thing about Apple: their accessories are usually quite >> pricey - but very well thought out, both aesthetically and based on the fact >> you can usually use them for more than one thing. For example, their pricey >> camera connection kit also lets you connect to SD cards and many different >> USB devices. Once you jailbreak an iPhone or an iPad, it's essentially a >> Open Source device. >> >> Not really, you don't get the source! It's just a hack someone figured >> out. Yup, Steve Jobs is a master wallet sucker. > Well the underlying OS is Open Sourced BSD UNIX, as are a huge number of > their efforts and apps. 'Apple is the first major computer company to make > Open Source development > a key part of its software strategy, and continues to both use and release > significant quantities of open source software.' Can Microsoft say the same > thing? It may be may be fair to say that the Mac OS is the most viable and > polished Open Source OS available: I wouldn't because the entire OS would have to be open source. The advantage of releasing your software code as open source is to get many times the eyes that a company could ever afford to find bugs and design flaws. Open BSD is one thing but the UI isn't. The paradigm at Apple is to keep things simple. Any developer will tell you the simpler the program the fewer the bugs. The larger the project the more you need eyes and QA groups on it. And always soon after release some user will find a bug or vulnerability. There is no such thing as a perfect programmer or perfect program unless it does next to nothing. Thinking that Apple is anything special is on par with thinking that TM is anything special. It's just another computer company with a certain shtick.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Freemason kills at least 84??
On 07/23/2011 01:06 AM, cardemaister wrote: > http://truthfrequencynews.com/?p=6853 > > Illuminati-Freemason Mind Controled Slave Anders Behring Breivik Identified > As Suspect In Norway Shooting Earlier this week the US Department of Homeland Security ramped up their campaign against "home grown" terrorist. IOW, terrorists with "white skin" and who are probably "right wing." Here is a propaganda video their released: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7q3bWEvl7o Of course it's a typically lame government video. We used to laugh at these when I was in school they sounded so corny. Of course people are going to report suspicious activity and it doesn't take a police state agency like the DHS to get them to do it. Many would have done it before 9-11. And after they reported things stupidly like a dumb woman who thought that a telescopic lens on a camera was a rocket launcher. If I notice like in the video someone had spray painted over a lens I would expect someone trying to pull off a heist more than terrorists. And I would alert someone. We might for a moment entertain the idea for the moment that even this Norway attack might have been a false flag. We can doubt it but note that early on they tried to blame it on Islamic terrorists. But who do we have instead? A "blond blue eyed" farmer, reaffirming the idea of "white terrorists." Let's entertain for a moment that Norway does not have the security systems at their airports that the US employs. Maybe this was a plot to make Norwegians support giving up their freedoms so the airports buy a bunch of Chertoff Porno Scanners. Lots of money to be made there by a number of companies. So you mind control some unstable person and get him to pull off the act or make him the patsy while experts pull off the real attacks. See the possibilities? And why not do this in the US? Well maybe the benefit of the truther movement has been to make people very alert. So much so that covert false flag activities could uncovered by the public. All we have here is attacks by a lone wolf crazy. One should always ask what would a terrorist group gain from an attack? If it doesn't make any sense then either it is a lone wolf crazy attack or a false flag or both if the crazy was mind controlled. To capitalists what are a few lives if billions are to be made? Of course these ideas tend to make some people on FFL get all wound up and unstress. Just watch. I now return you to your normally scheduled sheeplethink.
[FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
MZ, Always makes my day to hear from you. I love talent no matter how I'm honoured to enjoy it. Which brings me to a hope that continues to spring eternal. Is there any chance we could get you to share some thoughts on performance art? I know in a past life or two you taught drama and you had a grand idea to more personalize the teaching through performance. I thought that was the best idea I had heard since the "World Plan". Obviously you were ahead of your time (just can't predict audiences) but maybe some of us are ready. Please give it some serious thought. LOL PS: If GD hadn't existed Big M would have had to invent him-now there's a thought. From: maskedzebra To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 9:04:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: BP: She is sublime, I have no doubt David Bowie and Sir Elton are her biggest fans! RESPONSE: correct. > BP:I did have a another thought! To kick-start Marks marketing campaign (I think 7 figures is more than fair) what if he got Howard to interview Maharishi's sandals? Who better? RESPONSE: Howard knows what sacrilege is better than the Pope. But he got done in by Gaga. I like the idea of interviewing those sandals, although it this were 1975 I'd do anything to take possession of this relic. But the secret ambivalence that everyone—even in the TMO—has about MMY, it is forced into the open in contemplating purchasing those sandals. Imagine though if they were Guru Dev's sandals—although, paradoxically, I think Maharishi was more powerful than his Master. I confess to knowing nothing about GD—except that it wouldn't make it like MMY did in the Sixties. > BP: PS: I believe Fitzgerald said "exclamation marks are like laughing at your own jokes"! RESPONSE: True. I find that once you put the exclamation point in, you can, after you have finished your post, remove it; because you see, Bob (IMO) *it has already done its work*—and leaves a trace of its impression there in the exclamation point-less sentence. So, even though it is now removed, it is having its subliminal effect—because it was once there at the end of the sentence where it isn't anymore. This makes all the difference. With Gaga it's "I Married The Night" [New York] versus "Walking on Sunshine" [California]. Thank you, Bob, for your generous support. And your kindness. Hope we at FFL really get somewhere before one of us has to die. R
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
Nice, thank you, Bill, but, with M, of course, to the nth degree... On Jul 22, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Bill Coop wrote: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Mark Landau wrote: > > > Why did so many skin boys get disillusioned? Because, as Robin says, the > images that forced themselves upon us forced us to revise our estimation of > the man. Bevan never really became skin boy. He always wanted to, but was > "spared" that. Most of the skin boys got close enough to the man to see his > underbelly. And it wasn't as pretty as we all thought it was. > > > "No man is a hero to his valet-de-chambre"—Marshal Catinat (1637–1712). > > "Few men have been admired by their domestics".—Montaigne: Essays, book iii. > chap. 2.
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife] ZomGas 1 (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)
Sal, I'm wondering if you might consider being my next guest on ZomGas? I could send you the 20 questions without the answers. The questions beg for pithy answers which I know are right up your alley. On FFL,we have plastic enlightenment, editors using urban dictionaries, men wearing lipstick and women referring to male genitalia they can't seem to find. IMO, some of this stuff is getting a bit old hat, but plastic sexism thats something brand sp**king new and ZomGas wants to own this topic. What do you say? From: Sal Sunshine To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 7:01:55 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ZomGas 1 (was Zombie in My Gas Tank) On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Bob Price wrote: I apologize in advance for the "excessively loquacious" nature of this post, > >I asked the wife what that meant and she said: "If you don't want to be >thought of a pompous ass, just say you're being a "Chatty Cathy". In which case you'll be thought of as a sexist pig instead. Which might be a step up. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good by Amy, you will be missed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 07/23/2011 11:23 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of > > losing people to this shit. > > > > At her best: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rs&playnext=1&list=PL2D4F755C610950CA > > Legalize all recreational drugs. Use taxes from it to help educate > people from grade school on up as to how these work and why people take > them. Bhairi - I work in a school. Kids at all grade levels have been educated for many many years now, ad nauseum, about drug use, alcohol, smoking, what it all does to the brain and body and not to start. Things is, some kids just do it all anyway and need some way to alleviate their anxiety/stress/whatever. Maybe it would help a bit if some rock stars come out and do some ads suggesting never starting. And also promote starting to meditate, do yoga etc, as you suggest below. But lack of knowledge is not the problem any more. Musicians often get into downers because they were high strung to > begin with and therefore very bright to understand the art and sciences > of music and master them. But they were often too high strung to pull > off good performances. They turn to drugs. I was also high strung and > meditation solved the problem. I had high strung music students. They > would come in an play for me and blow the piece but I could tell they > had practiced and mentally understood the point of the lesson. But I > couldn't exactly suggest they do meditation. > > I did have a band teacher when I was in the 5th grade who had the whole > band do a visualization technique where we closed our eyes and imagined > a handkerchief slowly falling to the ground. Mind you this was the 1950s! > > The "war on drugs" is just a political thing. It is really just a "war > on the underclass" to keep the "great unwashed" in their "proper > place." In the US drug laws are very unpopular but they sure roll out > the propaganda when we try to legalize drugs just as they did here in > California last year with the pot legalization proposition. The only > thing we could figure out was the that vote got rigged or the dopers > were too stoned to remember to vote. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Good by Amy, you will be missed
On Jul 23, 2011, at 1:23 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of > losing people to this shit. > > At her best: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rs&playnext=1&list=PL2D4F755C610950CA And at her worst: http://bit.ly/knERmL You'd think some of the people watching this, and cheering her on in her quite obviously impaired state, not to mention her managers, might have said, "Hey, Amy~~this is it. You go into a hospital NOW or else you're not going to be here next year." Maybe some people close to her did say that. But I would guess not. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Good by Amy, you will be missed
On 07/23/2011 11:23 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of > losing people to this shit. > > At her best: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rs&playnext=1&list=PL2D4F755C610950CA Legalize all recreational drugs. Use taxes from it to help educate people from grade school on up as to how these work and why people take them. Musicians often get into downers because they were high strung to begin with and therefore very bright to understand the art and sciences of music and master them. But they were often too high strung to pull off good performances. They turn to drugs. I was also high strung and meditation solved the problem. I had high strung music students. They would come in an play for me and blow the piece but I could tell they had practiced and mentally understood the point of the lesson. But I couldn't exactly suggest they do meditation. I did have a band teacher when I was in the 5th grade who had the whole band do a visualization technique where we closed our eyes and imagined a handkerchief slowly falling to the ground. Mind you this was the 1950s! The "war on drugs" is just a political thing. It is really just a "war on the underclass" to keep the "great unwashed" in their "proper place." In the US drug laws are very unpopular but they sure roll out the propaganda when we try to legalize drugs just as they did here in California last year with the pot legalization proposition. The only thing we could figure out was the that vote got rigged or the dopers were too stoned to remember to vote.
[FairfieldLife] Harry Potter and Interdimensionality: A blog and review.
I just finished my blog on the Harry Potter series and inter-dimensionality. http://www.moviereviewsfromaspiritualperspective.com/mainstream-movie-reviews/harry-potter-series
Re: [FairfieldLife] Good by Amy, you will be missed
I guess she should have gone to rehab... but she said no no no! From: Sal Sunshine To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Good by Amy, you will be missed On Jul 23, 2011, at 1:23 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of > losing people to this shit. > > At her best: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rs&playnext=1&list=PL2D4F755C610950CA WTF~~did she die?? What a loss. But almost in the cards for some people, considering the lifestyle choices they make. Not sure any research can ever get that under control, C, but I appreciate your letting us know. RIP, Amy~~and thanks for some truly great music. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Good by Amy, you will be missed
On Jul 23, 2011, at 1:23 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of > losing people to this shit. > > At her best: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rs&playnext=1&list=PL2D4F755C610950CA WTF~~did she die?? What a loss. But almost in the cards for some people, considering the lifestyle choices they make. Not sure any research can ever get that under control, C, but I appreciate your letting us know. RIP, Amy~~and thanks for some truly great music. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Good by Amy, you will be missed
We really have to get this drug-synapse connection handled. I am sick of losing people to this shit. At her best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBoXtxD0Rs&playnext=1&list=PL2D4F755C610950CA
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardwillytexwilliams" wrote: > > > > Bhairitu: > > Of course but until they fall down you have to fight > > them or they will harm you. I don't think you would > > want to stand around and just let a mythical rakshasa > > eat you alive... > > > You guys need to read a history book. In the Ramayana > it is Rama the Hindu that calls the Buddhists of Ceylon > 'rakshasas' and try to kill them. Get some smarts! > > The term 'rakshasas' you are using stands for racial > purity of the Caucasian race. Why are you two insisting > on speaking a language you can't even understand? > > You got everything backwards! > > > > According to vedic literature, human beings are > > actually higher than the rakshasas in the natural > > > order of things on earth. So, the wickedness of the > > rakshasas become their own downfall, e.g. Hitler and > > the Third Reich... > Please, read the Srimad Bhagavatam to get an understanding of the terms "rakshasa" and "asura". Srila Prabhupada made commentaries on the literal meaning of these terms as "human eaters", and as "demons". However, for the modern reader, these terms can apply to humans who are blinded by hatred, greed, lust and all the other vices. As such, they become rakshasas or asuras who are below the status of a human being in terms of consciousness and spiritual development.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cern scientists suspect glimpse of Higgs boson 'God particle'
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:53 PM, John wrote: > Vaj, > > For the general public, this development is admirable. But for most > physicists in academia and research fields, the discovery of the Higgs-Boson > is expected. Many are saying that the LHC would have to discover more > particles or unknown quantum phenomena in order for the LHC to earn its huge > monetary investment. It would be considered a disappointment if the LHC > would rest its laurels on the discovery of the Higgs-Boson alone. Yeah. The LHC will earn more than its investment when it nuclear fizzes the entire universe.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cern scientists suspect glimpse of Higgs boson 'God particle'
Vaj, For the general public, this development is admirable. But for most physicists in academia and research fields, the discovery of the Higgs-Boson is expected. Many are saying that the LHC would have to discover more particles or unknown quantum phenomena in order for the LHC to earn its huge monetary investment. It would be considered a disappointment if the LHC would rest its laurels on the discovery of the Higgs-Boson alone. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > For those who haven't been watching data coming in this last week, here's the > gist of it: > > > URL: > http://www.todayonline.com/World/EDC110723-092/Cern-scientists-suspect-glimpse-of-Higgs-boson-God-particle > > TODAYonline: Cern scientists suspect glimpse of Higgs boson 'God particle' > 03:05 PM July 23, 2011 > > LONDON - Scientists may have caught their first glimpse of the elusive Higgs > boson, or "God particle", which is thought to give mass to the basic building > blocks of nature. > > Researchers at the Large Hadron Collider at Cern, the European particle > physics lab near Geneva, announced the findings at a conference on Friday > yesterday. > > The world's most powerful atom smasher hunts for signs of new physics by > slamming subatomic particles together... > > > > I thought I would indicate that this week is going to be interesting in other > ways than debt ceilings and horrible Republicans. Some announcements are > coming with LHC results. The fun starts this week at the Europhsyics HEP > conference (EPS2011). It may even begin sooner if CERN release all the > results as conference notes before the start as they did for PLHC last month. > What will be shown at EPS2011, the main conference on particle physics this > year, involves potential results on the Higgs field. There is already a list > of 370 talks online and 130 posters. All are interesting in their own way, > but at least 60 of them are going to include new results from LHC and the > Tevatron that could contain new physics about the Higgs sector. these are the > ones everybody will be looking out for. The first day is July 21, where > ATLAS will present some SUSY search results which may or may not go beyond > the results from PLHC last month. Then CFD and D0 will give us all the > details of their Higgs channels using 8.5/fb or 8.9/fb for each one. > > Last week the following graph was presented at a seminar at Chamonix. The > graph is normalized to a unity for the ratio of cross sections. Below the > unit line Higgs fields are 95% excluded. The peak on the left is not a > signature of the Higgs, but other stuff. This is fortunate, for a Higgs > field of less than 135 GeV/c^2 has stability problems with the standard model > vacuum. > > > > The observed curve has some data peaks at the heavy Higgs end, where these > are about 3-sigma. On the left there is a smaller curve, sub 3-sigma peak, > for a potential Higgs mass near the 140GeV/c^2 mark, which is about where the > standard model Higgs should exist. This graph is the result of data > filtering, where the results display a failure to exclude signal that might > be Higgsian. > > So not all of this week is going to be consumed by horrible people. We may > get some data announcements on signature for the Higgs field and even for > supersymmetry. I can post the LHC realtime links to the conference for those > interested. > > Lawrence B. Crowell > > > Visit TODAYonline at http://www.todayonline.com/ > > Copyright ©2011 MediaCorp Press Ltd | All rights reserved | Terms of Use | > Privacy statement > > So far the data has only given exclusion results which push the putative > Higgs into some narrow zones outside these exclusion limits. The Tevatron > data (Dzero and CDF) show some good exclusion limits that limit the Higgs to > a region of 114 GeV to 137 GeV, but that is not the end of the story. We > will have to wait for the plenary talks next week to see the full Tevatron > results. Above 185 GeV they only use indirect measurements to exclude the > Higgs (heavy Higgs, and MSSM charged Higgs) and these assume that no new > particles beyond the standard model exist. That could be a weak assumption. > > The main talks start today, and we might get more heads up on what is > happening with the Higgs field. By the end of the week we might get some > idea on whether Jacques Distler's rather gloomy prediction that the LHC would > find nothing is real. > > Lawrence B. Crowell >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
Mark, YMMV stands for "Your Mileage May Vary," an Internet way of saying "Make up your own mind." --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > Hi Ravi, I agree with most of what you say here with 1 possible > and 1 definite exception. > > Firstly, you seem to be holding M as pure Satguru. This, of > course, is your prerogative. But, if so, we have no basis > for discussion, because any blemish, shadow or dysfunction > seen in him would, by definition, be pure projection of the > observer. I hold that no human is pure Satguru, though > Satguru exists in all things. If human, the possibility of > blemish, shadow or dysfunction could, at any time, arise in > any person, guru or not, and be truly perceived by a > discerning observer and not be projection. I completely agree with you. On another forum followers of another controversial teacher are busy making excuses for some of his outlandish, illegal, and finally self- destructive behavior writing it all off with their dogma's counterpart of "The ways of the enlightened are unfathomable." Many of them repeat the same things we've seen on this forum from time to time, that the enlightened (I would say "sup- posedly enlightened," since the only evidence we ever have of it is their claim, based on their subjective experience) are not subject to the same rules we are. Instead, they live (these folks would say) in a different dimension than lesser people. Miming the same "the enlightened can do no harm because all of their actions are by definition in tune with the will of God or the laws of nature" meme we're so familiar with, they find a way to either deny (pretend that the behavior never existed) or "explain" (come up with often outlandish rationalizations for) behaviors that they would condemn *in any other person*. The thing that fascinates me most in all of this is that no one seems to notice that when they use the phrase "by definition," they are referring to definitions taught to them *by the person they are making excuses for*. When they say that the enlightened are "special" and not subject to the same laws or ethical guidelines as other people, they remain blissfully unaware that *these very phrases* were taught to them by -- again -- the very person they are making excuses for. It's like there is a complete disconnect with the *source* of the beliefs they are relying on to justify their justifications. I remain unconvinced that anyone on earth is or ever has been so "special" that they are not subject to the same laws and ethical guidelines as everyone else. Satguru, schmatguru. If Maharishi had been caught doing all the money-laundering he did over the years, he'd have been charged with the same crime as anyone else doing the same thing. And IMO that's the way it should be.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: The resolve to have a checking was just empty words. You now posted 32 full pages of even more words ! "snip"
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm "for"
I got caught by the spell checker. I mean to say only a few sickophants and Judy would be listening to Barry's raps on Skype. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Tom Pall wrote: > On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Bob Price wrote: >> >> >> Below >> From: wgm4u >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 6:00:38 AM >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm "for" >> You talk too much? >> Actually, I believe its called "writing" although from your post I >> understand >> you're not completely familiar with this particular human skill. >> Talking is more like what you do on Skype. >> To learn more about "writing" can I recommend: >> "How to Read and Why" >> by Harold Bloom. >> I have no doubt Professor Bloom would enjoy The Turq's "writing" as much >> as I do. >> For more on talking can recommend >> a pod-cast called "BATGAP". > > Barry says he raps to FFL. A rap is speech. If we were on Skype only a > few sycophants and Judy would be listening to his raps, so he has to write > them. He talks too much. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
Hi Ravi, I agree with most of what you say here with 1 possible and 1 definite exception. Firstly, you seem to be holding M as pure Satguru. This, of course, is your prerogative. But, if so, we have no basis for discussion, because any blemish, shadow or dysfunction seen in him would, by definition, be pure projection of the observer. I hold that no human is pure Satguru, though Satguru exists in all things. If human, the possibility of blemish, shadow or dysfunction could, at any time, arise in any person, guru or not, and be truly perceived by a discerning observer and not be projection. Secondly, the statement "sexual frustration is just a judgment" is downright silly. Sexual frustration is an event, like sex, that can occur within anyone. Unlike sex, which is, traditionally, a physical act between two physical bodies, sexual frustration is a psycho-physical-emotional-energetic complex that arises within an individual and can effect their mind, body, mood and appearance and spill over into overt behavioral acts. Because it occurs within the individual, it's harder to perceive and more prone to projection. But, with discernment on the part of the observer, it could reliably be perceive in another as reality and not projection, especially if it occurs regularly ever long periods of time and affects the mood, appearance and behavior of the individual in which it is occurring. What is YMMV? On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:30 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote: > Mark - Thanks for your reply. I have to clarify that at no point I suggested > or would ever imply that you were an imbecile or reborn as a donkey for the > things you said about MMY otherwise I wouldn't have wished for your success. > I hope I can try to address your points and further clarify my thoughts. > > > "So, just as an example, if I say "M slept with women and got sexually > frustrated when he couldn't get any," what kind of statement is this? Is it > purely my projection? Is it a moral judgement? Is it objective? Is it > subjective? Is it true? Is it false? Is it cavil? Will I be reborn a donkey > for saying it?" > > M slept with women would be reality and portrayal of his behavior as sexual > frustration is just a judgment and most likely your projection. > > "Because, as Robin says, the images that forced themselves upon us forced us > to revise our estimation of the man" > > I wouldn't have revised the estimation, that would be swinging to the other > direction, I would have doubted my initial estimation. > > I explained before how a Satguru as a perfect mirror, of pure awareness, > would cause an array of dizzying, bewildering, conflicting emotions. > > However if one is aware we would find this opportunity in our day to day > interactions. Any person or situation that causes bewildering, conflicting > emotions would be our Guru, would point to the core pains that haven't been > healed within us. > > This will definitely happen in any loving, intimate relationship and a > relationship with someone like M definitely surpasses that. > > In my life my ex caused these kind of emotions, I madly loved her, so my > initial estimation of her was very positive but soon over the years, she > caused me lot of grief which caused me to revise my estimation like you. I > was bitter, angry, miserable. > > But eventually I realized that all these emotions were all mine, she was who > she was, but by her very nature she created this array of emotions in me, she > was much more of a Guru than my Guru Ammachi. Now I just look at her, I just > look at the reality, untainted, undisturbed by my own pain. > > Once I was healed, I was free to truly act without projecting any of my > pains, I was free of the grip, grip of my own fears, insecurities, pains > reflected by the other, which can only be caused by a deep intimate > relationship. > > A deep intimate relationship where the center falls to the other, a great > start but not the end, the end isn't until the center falls back in to you, > into your own core. > > Till you are tethered to the other, the fascination continues, the blame > continues, since you are not to blame. How could you be blamed? You are > innocent, gullible, you are a victim, the other is to blame, the other is > responsible. And the drama continues. > > YMMV. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > Ah, yes, first the easy way out. Thank you, Ravi, for your well wishes on > > the sandals, but let's go into epistemology. And, of course, Robin does so > > eloquently in a subsequent response, which beautifully exemplifies the not > > so easy way out and will not be as easy for me to reply to. > > > > It's all Mark. None of it could be MMY. Mark must be an imbecile not to see > > this. (Should I even reply to this email? Let's see if it might be > > fruitful...) > > > > In order to make it fruitful, I guess I have to bring up spiritual maturity > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm "for"
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Bob Price wrote: > > > *Below* > * > * > *From:* wgm4u > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2011 6:00:38 AM > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm "for" > You talk too much? > > Actually, I believe its called "writing" although from your post I > understand > you're not completely familiar with this particular human skill. > > Talking is more like what you do on Skype. > > To learn more about "writing" can I recommend: > > "How to Read and Why" > by Harold Bloom. > > I have no doubt Professor Bloom would enjoy The Turq's "writing" as much as > I do. > > For more on talking can recommend > > a pod-cast called "BATGAP". > Barry says he raps to FFL. A rap is speech. If we were on Skype only a few sycophants and Judy would be listening to his raps, so he has to write them. He talks too much.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Freemason kills at least 84??
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 4:06 AM, cardemaister wrote: > > http://truthfrequencynews.com/?p=6853 > > Illuminati-Freemason Mind Controled Slave Anders Behring Breivik Identified > As Suspect In Norway Shooting These people have killed for centuries. Washington, Lincoln, FDR, Truman, GWBush to name just a few.
Re: [FairfieldLife] John Muir
On 07/22/2011 10:01 PM, Yifu wrote: > on "Muir's Trail" no doubt...(1907) > http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/52393.jpg John Muir's mansion is just down the street and I live in what was once his orchard. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
nablusoss: > You just posted 52 pages ! > > "snip" > And 52 pages with no formatting the word wrap!
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle; East Kennett, Wiltshire. Reported 22nd July
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2011/eastkennett2/eastkennett2011b.html It's quite a stectacular Crop Circle, do have a look. I'd like to meet Peter's "friends from the Pub" making this one who "made" this within a few hours during last night. :-)
[FairfieldLife] New Crop Circle; East Kennett, Wiltshire. Reported 22nd July
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2011/eastkennett2/eastkennett2011b.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: ZomGas 1 (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > > On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Bob Price wrote: > > > > > I apologize in advance for the "excessively loquacious" > > > nature of this post, I asked the wife what that meant > > > and she said: "If you don't want to be thought of a > > > pompous ass, just say you're being a "Chatty Cathy". > > > > In which case you'll be thought of as a sexist pig > > instead. Which might be a step up. > > I may be missing something, but isn't "Chatty Cathy" > the name of a plastic toy? Which sex is plastic, so > I can recognize plastic sexism in the future if I > run across it? :-) Here's a recent example for you: "One of my 'tests' for whether a new romantic interest will blossom into a longer relationship, in fact, is to take a road trip with them. While on the road, does the person feel the need to talk at all times to 'fill up the silence,' or are they content to just drive along enjoying the scenery and listening to music and talk- ing when we actually have something to say? Suffice it to say that my long-term girlfriends have never included any Chatty Cathy dolls. :-)" Then there's this: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Chatty%20Cathy Interestingly enough, though, "Chatty Cathy" as slang for a person who talks too much first became popular among *gay men* in the '60s and '70s.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
Bhairitu: > Of course but until they fall down you have to fight > them or they will harm you. I don't think you would > want to stand around and just let a mythical rakshasa > eat you alive... > You guys need to read a history book. In the Ramayana it is Rama the Hindu that calls the Buddhists of Ceylon 'rakshasas' and try to kill them. Get some smarts! The term 'rakshasas' you are using stands for racial purity of the Caucasian race. Why are you two insisting on speaking a language you can't even understand? You got everything backwards! > > According to vedic literature, human beings are > actually higher than the rakshasas in the natural > > order of things on earth. So, the wickedness of the > rakshasas become their own downfall, e.g. Hitler and > the Third Reich...
[FairfieldLife] Cern scientists suspect glimpse of Higgs boson 'God particle'
For those who haven't been watching data coming in this last week, here's the gist of it:URL: http://www.todayonline.com/World/EDC110723-092/Cern-scientists-suspect-glimpse-of-Higgs-boson-God-particleTODAYonline: Cern scientists suspect glimpse of Higgs boson 'God particle'03:05 PM July 23, 2011LONDON - Scientists may have caught their first glimpse of the elusive Higgs boson, or "God particle", which is thought to give mass to the basic building blocks of nature.Researchers at the Large Hadron Collider at Cern, the European particle physics lab near Geneva, announced the findings at a conference on Friday yesterday.The world's most powerful atom smasher hunts for signs of new physics by slamming subatomic particles together...I thought I would indicate that this week is going to be interesting in other ways than debt ceilings and horrible Republicans. Some announcements are coming with LHC results. The fun starts this week at the Europhsyics HEP conference (EPS2011). It may even begin sooner if CERN release all the results as conference notes before the start as they did for PLHC last month. What will be shown at EPS2011, the main conference on particle physics this year, involves potential results on the Higgs field. There is already a list of 370 talks online and 130 posters. All are interesting in their own way, but at least 60 of them are going to include new results from LHC and the Tevatron that could contain new physics about the Higgs sector. these are the ones everybody will be looking out for. The first day is July 21, where ATLAS will present some SUSY search results which may or may not go beyond the results from PLHC last month. Then CFD and D0 will give us all the details of their Higgs channels using 8.5/fb or 8.9/fb for each one. Last week the following graph was presented at a seminar at Chamonix. The graph is normalized to a unity for the ratio of cross sections. Below the unit line Higgs fields are 95% excluded. The peak on the left is not a signature of the Higgs, but other stuff. This is fortunate, for a Higgs field of less than 135 GeV/c^2 has stability problems with the standard model vacuum.The observed curve has some data peaks at the heavy Higgs end, where these are about 3-sigma. On the left there is a smaller curve, sub 3-sigma peak, for a potential Higgs mass near the 140GeV/c^2 mark, which is about where the standard model Higgs should exist. This graph is the result of data filtering, where the results display a failure to exclude signal that might be Higgsian. So not all of this week is going to be consumed by horrible people. We may get some data announcements on signature for the Higgs field and even for supersymmetry. I can post the LHC realtime links to the conference for those interested.Lawrence B. CrowellVisit TODAYonline at http://www.todayonline.com/Copyright ©2011 MediaCorp Press Ltd | All rights reserved | Terms of Use | Privacy statementSo far the data has only given exclusion results which push the putative Higgs into some narrow zones outside these exclusion limits. The Tevatron data (Dzero and CDF) show some good exclusion limits that limit the Higgs to a region of 114 GeV to 137 GeV, but that is not the end of the story. We will have to wait for the plenary talks next week to see the full Tevatron results. Above 185 GeV they only use indirect measurements to exclude the Higgs (heavy Higgs, and MSSM charged Higgs) and these assume that no new particles beyond the standard model exist. That could be a weak assumption.The main talks start today, and we might get more heads up on what is happening with the Higgs field. By the end of the week we might get some idea on whether Jacques Distler’s rather gloomy prediction that the LHC would find nothing is real.Lawrence B. Crowell
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
Bhairitu: > Responsible people have a duty to be involved > with social policy. > Responsible people in a political debate don't post religious racial slurs in a dead language against their opponents. You can't read Sanskrit and apparently Robert can't even spell 'Rakshasa'! Go figure. You and Robert may be enthralled with your Vedic racial cult activities, but not everyone agrees with your Hindu Aryan religious notions of racial purity. Please keep your Hindu caste system out of U.S. politics. Thank you, Sir. Rakshasa: 1. Aryan term for South Asian native inhabitants. 2. A Vedic term of derogation for dark skinned Indian aborigines. 3. A demon; an evil spirit that comes out of the forest at night to wander about; who often take the shape of husbands or lovers for the purposes of fornication. They are called 'confounders of the sacrifice' who at one time used to lay in wait at fords to kill those who tried to cross. - (Kaus. Br. XII.1). According to the 'Dictionary of Hinduism', the term Rakshasa is "...an epithet applied in the Rig Veda to Indian indigenes whose characteristics were likened to demons of popular folklore. Most of the native resistanceo the Aryan infiltration was made from fortified positions, that offered by less organized tribes consisted of guerrilla tactics from forest hiding places, which Indra was constantly invoked to burn and destroy." - (R.V. I.76,3, etc. Reference: "Dictionary of Hinduism" Its Mythology, Folklore, Philosophy, Literature, and History By M. and J. Stutley Harper & Row, 1977 Page 245 > > > > The republican party and it's members > > > > have turned into raksashas... > > > > > > > You can keep your Hindu religious biases > > > out of U.S. politics, Robert. This is a > > > free country, Sir. Nobody here has to > > > abide by your notions of caste, class, > > > skin color, or birth circumstances.
[FairfieldLife] Cooling effect of Yffers?
Summer rounding course of Finnish TMers near Espo (should be Espoo) began on Thursday. See, how the temperature drops because of Maharishi effect: http://www.gypsii.com/album.cgi?op=viewitem&id=21050566
[FairfieldLife] hitopadesha on money
Well, hitopadesha[1] on money:
taaniindriyaani avikalaani, tad eva naama,
sa buddhir apratihataa, vacanaM tad eva.
artoSmanaa virahitaH puruSaH sa eva
anyaH kSaNena bhavatiiti - vicitram etat!
taani+indriyaani; avikalaani, tat; eva naama,
saH; buddhiH; apratihataa, vacanam; tat eva.
artha;uSmanaa virahitaH puruSaH saH; eva
anyaH kSaNena bhavati+iti - vicitram etat!
Your limbs are the same, uninjured; your name is
the same, and your intelligence also is the same,
unimpaired, and your words are the same - you
are the same. Yet when you are deprived of the
warmth of money, you become someone else in
a second - how strange!
1. hitopadesha < hita + upadesha
The word 'hita' obviously is the same as for
instance in sam-hitaa, except that the latter
is a feminine form (long [diirgha] a-sound at the end).
CDSL:
hita2 mf(%{A4})n. (p.p. of 1. %{dhA} cf. %{dhita} ; for 1. %{hita} see p.
1297 , col. 2) put , placed , set , laid , laid upon , imposed , lying or
situated or contained in (loc.) RV. AV. Up. ; set up , established , fixed (as
a prize) RV. ; planned , arranged (as a race or contest) ib. ; prepared , made
ready ib. ; held , taken MW. ; assigned to , destined for (dat. or gen.) ib. ;
reckoned among(loc) TS. ; constituted or appointed as (nom.) RV. ; given (as a
name) AV. ; beneficial , advantageous , salutary , wholesome , suitable ,
agreeing with (of ten , said of diet , regimen , medicines &c.) , convenient ,
suitable , fit , agreeable to or for (dat. gen. loc. , or comp.) RV. &c.&c. ;
well-disposed , favourable , *friendly*** , affectionate , kind Mn. MBh.
&c. ; m. a friend , benefactor ib. ; (%{A4}) f. a causeway , dike (see
%{hitA-bhaGga}) ; pl. N. of partic. veins or arteries S3Br. KaushUp. Ya1jn5. ;
(%{am}) n. (sg. or pl.) anything useful or salutary or suitable or proper ,
benefit , advantage , profit , service , good , welfare , good advice &c. Mn.
MBh. &c.
upadeza m. pointing out to , reference to Pa1n2. 1-4 , 70 Kap. Ba1dar. Jaim.
&c. ; specification , instruction , teaching , information , advice ,
prescription TUp. MBh. Mn. Sus3r. S3ak. Hit. &c. ; plea , pretext (=
%{apa-deza}) Mn. ix , 268 Ragh. Katha1s. ; initiation , communication of the
initiatory Mantra or formula Ka1tyS3r. ; (in Gr.) original enunciation (i.e.
the original form [often having an Anubandha] in which a root , base , affix ,
augment , or any word or part of a word is enunciated in grammatical treatises)
Pa1n2. Ka1s3. Siddh. &c. ; N. of a class of writings (Buddh.) ; a name , title
MW
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: You just posted 52 pages ! "snip"
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ZomGas 1 (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)
Curtis, Thanks for this, coming from you it means a lot. One of the many things Maharishi taught me was how to get up in front of 400 people and sell them the keys to the kingdom. IMO, it takes a high degree of EI to be willing to embrace the kind of vulnerability it takes to be an entertainer. I'm obviously not a Mr. Wonderful yet, but I'm working on it. From: curtisdeltablues To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 7:43:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: ZomGas 1 (was Zombie in My Gas Tank) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: > > I apologize in advance for the "excessively loquacious" nature of this post, > > I asked the wife what that meant and she said: "If you don't want to be > thought of a pompous ass, just say you're being a "Chatty Cathy". One of the cleverest raps I have read here. I equate "loquacious" with big writing balls. The thing is none of us is really writing ( which means re-writing) We are offering our shitty first drafts of creative flow. And yours are working overtime brother. Want me to speak for an hour, I am ready now. Want me to speak for a half hour give me a day. Want me to speak for ten minutes, I need a week. What we do here is cleaning the pipes for writing and the inevitable work of re-writing. And when the first draft can strike a chord, we are lucky. Your different voices in your writing creating the character of your wife is totally charming. When I read you here I know I must step up my perceptiveness game or I will not "get" you. You are doing some really interesting work here brother, and I am doing my best to keep up. Thanks. > > Ravi, > > I was thrilled when you took the time > to answer my post a second time. In fact, > I was so thrilled I took your advice and > watched your interview on BatGap. I was not disappointed! > It took all-the limited vessel, that I am to take in just a small > fraction of the illumination you and Rick shared > in the interview. > > It happened like a thunderbolt!!! > It was like the ugly head of my Kundalini > snarled and almost gave me whip lash as my heart > chakra blossomed and the illumination poured in > like a cool spring on a hot summers day. > > Of course you know to what I refer because as we both know you set the > whole lila up (not Ricks cat-as much as I love Rick, I can promise > you there will be no Dan Rather moments of letting half the screen > "go black" on ZomGas. I thought your look of "what the f**k" was fully > justified) > sorry where was I? Oh yes the "lila" you set in motion. I get it my friend > and as > you hoped I'm ready to grab the proverbial "Brahma bull" by the horns. > As you know, what I'm referring to is that thousand petal-ed gem you planted > for me at 24:10 into the interview. That koan or Thor's hammer that broke my > final > resistance, where you opened up and explained everything we need to know > about "Zombies". > As much as I hate to distract anyone from MZ's post, I have to say Ned > Wynn's email exchange > on Big M's short shorts has nothing on this. When i heard and saw you speak > "truth > to power" (after all it is Ricks show) about Zombies I knew what you had been > saying to me > all a long. For a clearer explanation please check out this clip on you tube. > Its about one of > my favourite hero's in the history of cinema, General George Armstrong Custer > in "Little Big Man". > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejssO2XqFcI > > So I now understand you want me to go ahead and complete the > questionnaire for you > based on the ample content you have so graciously provided. > > For starters, I've decided to take your lead and take a stand > and use an acronym (imitation being the "...sincerest form of flattery") > So henceforth Zombie...will be called: ZomGas with the following > being our first show. > > ZomGas 1: (Guest Ravi Yogi) > > 1. Your favourite qualities in a woman? > > A woman who loves me like my mother and always wears  white > > 2. Your favourite qualities in a man? > > > See answer #1. > > 3. Your favourite virtue? > > Selfless devotion to my next female disciple. > > 4. Your favourite occupation? > > Being interviewed on ZomGas. > > 5. What do you appreciate the most in your friends? > > Their listening skills. > > 6. Your main fault? > > Loving too much. > > 7. Your idea of happiness? > > Reading WN's posts. > > 8. Your idea of misery? > > Reading Turq'sposts. > > 9. If not yourself, who would you be? > > Ravi Yogi Yogi (Yogi), the third honorific needed to avoid being > confused with that other glorious guy that uses a double handle > to avoid being confused with the Sitar player. > > 10. Where would you like to live? > > San Jose > > 11. Your favourite colour? > > See #1 > > 12. Your favourite heroes in fiction? > > Lord Rama > > 13. What characters in history do yo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
Curtis - loved it, though I pretty much disagree with everything in this post here, but I love the heart and the ethical stands, and the writing too, goes without saying. Yes it does gets sad, lonely and depressing in the Yogi land, you have responded with heart and I should be good for another uh...few weeks at least. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > > > Curtis, In your new Avatar as the Mr. Nice Guy, > > Are you trying to parrot Judy's "Mr. Wonderful" putdown to score points with her? That is so cute. Usually opening with a vague ad hominem would make me skip the rest but if you are going for a pat on the head, I'll indulge you a bit more. > > everything becomes a > > POV> > or opinion even it is downright lies, deception, sarcasm, > > No, you missed my point about the distinction between agenda, which means an underlying ideological plan and a documentarian's POV. I don't believe that we have evidence for the claim that he came into the project with a the bias that he acquired from his interaction with a group you were never a part of for a guru you never met in a movie neither of us has seen. > > > something simple.> > > I mock both simple and complex bad ideas. If you feel I have been remiss in the complex ones lately, I'll take a crack at astrology for you. > > > > so much since I struggled with it so much myself to integrate these > > > opposing forces, 3rd for intellect, diplomacy and 9th for morals, > > > ethics. > > Arising concurrently with divination by sheep intestines by a superstitious pre-scientific culture, astrology is an attempt to reduce the complexity of reality into a simplistic formula that can be understood by a person like Nancy Reagan, because the challenges of that complexity made her anxious. > > How was that Ravi, did I take out Mr. Nice guy AND mock something complex at the same time or what? > > < An out and out intellectual has hard time with morals, ethics > > > and taking a stand.> > > I have not found this to be the case having read Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle, who was known as a bit of a thinker. > > > > I would had no problem if you viewed it as entertainment or examined > > the> > film's creative, artistic side, but so stamp it as a POV instead of > > > agenda is just crap> > > Is this the movie neither of us has seen about a group you never were a part of for a guru you never met? I made my point about this distinction. So make yours. What evidence do you have that this documentarian had an agenda? (You don't get to say it is crap again, you already used that big gun.) We both have access to his interviews about the movie which is how I formed my opinion. So do your homework and make your case. > . > > > > > Oh BTW I think both you and Rick consistently show an inability to take > > an ethical stand> > > Curious complaint. My discussions on the problem with religious beliefs and authoritarian belief systems have ethical implications. But perhaps I don't get your point. Can you show me some examples of ethical stands you have taken here as a model for my future improved behavior? And while you are putting that together perhaps I can take a crack at it. > > Your not understanding the role Dr. Martin Luther King had in pushing the civil rights agenda of African Americans in this country can be understood as your not being born here and not much of a reader of history. But for an Indian to not understand the value Gandhi had in liberating India from the British so that you could come here and work in a high tech field instead of standing behind an old English fart filling his scotch glasses with your white gloved hand as an inferior human under the jack boot of the colonial Raj, is a disgusting insult to the millions of Indians who Gandhi lead in passive resistance at the cost of many lives. > > So how did I do? Again I'm hoping for a twofer on that piece. Not nice and an ethical stand. > > (unless it's a dead guy like M) to maintain this > > persona of Mr. Nice Guy,> > > See how my example accomplished both since you are alive. > > < Rick at least surprised me by taking a stand > > against this movie,> > > Yes but I need to point out that Rick is still very nice about it so doesn't he get Mr. Nice Guy demerits? (Sorry to rat you out Rick but I'm not taking the Mr. Nice Guy heat alone.) > > < guess I have to wait for a lng time to > > see you to take a clear stand against something.> > > Not so long, I took a clear stand against you above. > > > come against each of you guys persistently and strongly but they do have > > a point that neither of you seem to acknowledge, at least publicly.> > > You are rambling a bit here. I acknowledge Judy all the time, what point do you mean? I don't always respond when Nabbie calls me a Hillbilly, that is true. > > > Fair, balanced, keeping both aisles happy always comes with an inherent >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Economic Collapse -- why it won't be stopped (and The Last Mountain)
Sure. If you go with Brother, look for a cheap alternative to the LC-61 print cartridges, which are just as expensive as any other mfg's ink. Despite their innovative products, I have stayed away from Apple since I was a tech support engr. for modems and Apple would not supply the pinouts for their interfaces so we could integrate our products with theirs. All the best to you during these challenging times. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > Thanks for all the advice/encouragement - electronics are just all about > patience and perservering (sp?) - I choose this as another spiritual lesson - > god bless it :) Â I have a teacher that recommended a Brother as well. Â Â > > --- On Fri, 7/22/11, whynotnow7 wrote: > > From: whynotnow7 > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Economic Collapse -- why it won't be stopped > (and The Last Mountain) > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 4:59 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > When you need to replace that HP printer, you may want to go with the > Brother brand. I had three HP printers, each one worse that the last. After > being stuck with over $100 in ink cartridges after each failure, I bought a > Brother all-in-one wireless printer/scanner/fax/copier and found a great deal > on-line for ink at $1.50 per cartridge. Fast, cheap and flawless. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > > > > > Thank you. ÃÂ I will read this. ÃÂ > > > I have just purchased a MacBook Pro after years on a PC and I have an HP > > printer (old) and now cannot print in colorI downloaded the driver, > > etc. and it doesn't work, of course. Of course, my 14 year old took down > > the PC with viruses, which is why I purchased a Mac.ÃÂ > > > Have enrolled in school and am taking my first online class along with 2 > > others which is sooo much work and of course, my unemployment is tied to > > passing and I am sooo behind. ÃÂ And, I have just realized I have Word > > 2010 on the computer - yet another program to figure out - doubling and > > tripling the amount of time I have to spend on design/writing assignments. > > ÃÂ > > > Nothing frustrates one more than one's electronics not working when one has > > deadlines. ÃÂ Argghhh - compatibilityhuh? > > > > > > --- On Thu, 7/21/11, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: > > > > > > From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Economic Collapse -- why it won't be stopped > > (and The Last Mountain) > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 8:39 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÂ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The following analysis is for those who are interested in the current > > financial situation of the United States government. [from factcheck.org] > > > > > > > > > > > > *Does Washington have a spending problem or an income problem? We offer > > some key facts.* > > > > > > > > > > > > http://factcheck.org/2011/07/fiscal-factcheck/ > > > > > > > > > > > > This site offers interesting information on politicians and political > > organisations (both parties) that twist facts to suit their message. This > > current page discusses where the government's income comes from, and where > > it goes within some historical perspective. They also provide the > > references for their sources of information. > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
Thanks Jim. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > Nailed it. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" raviyogi@ wrote: > > > > Mark - Thanks for your reply. I have to clarify that at no point I > > suggested or would ever imply that you were an imbecile or reborn as a > > donkey for the things you said about MMY otherwise I wouldn't have > > wished for your success. I hope I can try to address your points and > > further clarify my thoughts. > > "So, just as an example, if I say "M slept with women and got sexually > > frustrated when he couldn't get any," what kind of statement is this? Is > > it purely my projection? Is it a moral judgement? Is it objective? Is it > > subjective? Is it true? Is it false? Is it cavil? Will I be reborn a > > donkey for saying it?" > > M slept with women would be reality and portrayal of his behavior as > > sexual frustration is just a judgment and most likely your projection. > > "Because, as Robin says, the images that forced themselves upon us > > forced us to revise our estimation of the man" > > I wouldn't have revised the estimation, that would be swinging to the > > other direction, I would have doubted my initial estimation. > > I explained before how a Satguru as a perfect mirror, of pure awareness, > > would cause an array of dizzying, bewildering, conflicting emotions. > > However if one is aware we would find this opportunity in our day to day > > interactions. Any person or situation that causes bewildering, > > conflicting emotions would be our Guru, would point to the core pains > > that haven't been healed within us. > > This will definitely happen in any loving, intimate relationship and a > > relationship with someone like M definitely surpasses that. > > In my life my ex caused these kind of emotions, I madly loved her, so my > > initial estimation of her was very positive but soon over the years, she > > caused me lot of grief which caused me to revise my estimation like you. > > I was bitter, angry, miserable. > > But eventually I realized that all these emotions were all mine, she was > > who she was, but by her very nature she created this array of emotions > > in me, she was much more of a Guru than my Guru Ammachi. Now I just look > > at her, I just look at the reality, untainted, undisturbed by my own > > pain. > > Once I was healed, I was free to truly act without projecting any of my > > pains, I was free of the grip, grip of my own fears, insecurities, pains > > reflected by the other, which can only be caused by a deep intimate > > relationship. > > A deep intimate relationship where the center falls to the other, a > > great start but not the end, the end isn't until the center falls back > > in to you, into your own core. > > Till you are tethered to the other, the fascination continues, the blame > > continues, since you are not to blame. How could you be blamed? You are > > innocent, gullible, you are a victim, the other is to blame, the other > > is responsible. And the drama continues. > > YMMV. > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: ZomGas 1 (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)
Bob, I'm so impressed at your devotion that I just had to let you know that. I will respond as soon as I can (too late in the day now, so please don't be upset). I really like Turq's writing, Curtis's too but you have certainly bested them and then you have the quality that they both lack - love, devotion and attachment to this mad Yogi. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: > > I apologize in advance for the "excessively loquacious" nature of this post, > > I asked the wife what that meant and she said: "If you don't want to be > thought of a pompous ass, just say you're being a "Chatty Cathy". > > Ravi, > > I was thrilled when you took the time > to answer my post a second time. In fact, > I was so thrilled I took your advice and > watched your interview on BatGap. I was not disappointed! > It took all-the limited vessel, that I am to take in just a small > fraction of the illumination you and Rick shared > in the interview. > > It happened like a thunderbolt!!! > It was like the ugly head of my Kundalini > snarled and almost gave me whip lash as my heart > chakra blossomed and the illumination poured in > like a cool spring on a hot summers day. > > Of course you know to what I refer because as we both know you set the > whole lila up (not Ricks cat-as much as I love Rick, I can promise > you there will be no Dan Rather moments of letting half the screen > "go black" on ZomGas. I thought your look of "what the f**k" was fully justified) > sorry where was I? Oh yes the "lila" you set in motion. I get it my friend and as > you hoped I'm ready to grab the proverbial "Brahma bull" by the horns. > As you know, what I'm referring to is that thousand petal-ed gem you planted > for me at 24:10 into the interview. That koan or Thor's hammer that broke my final > resistance, where you opened up and explained everything we need to know about "Zombies". > As much as I hate to distract anyone from MZ's post, I have to say Ned Wynn's email exchange > on Big M's short shorts has nothing on this. When i heard and saw you speak "truth > to power" (after all it is Ricks show) about Zombies I knew what you had been saying to me > all a long. For a clearer explanation please check out this clip on you tube. Its about one of > my favourite hero's in the history of cinema, General George Armstrong Custer in "Little Big Man". > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejssO2XqFcI > > So I now understand you want me to go ahead and complete the questionnaire for you > based on the ample content you have so graciously provided. > > For starters, I've decided to take your lead and take a stand > and use an acronym (imitation being the "...sincerest form of flattery") > So henceforth Zombie...will be called: ZomGas with the following > being our first show. > > ZomGas 1: (Guest Ravi Yogi) > > 1. Your favourite qualities in a woman? > > A woman who loves me like my mother and always wears  white > > 2. Your favourite qualities in a man? > > > See answer #1. > > 3. Your favourite virtue? > > Selfless devotion to my next female disciple. > > 4. Your favourite occupation? > > Being interviewed on ZomGas. > > 5. What do you appreciate the most in your friends? > > Their listening skills. > > 6. Your main fault? > > Loving too much. > > 7. Your idea of happiness? > > Reading WN's posts. > > 8. Your idea of misery? > > Reading Turq'sposts. > > 9. If not yourself, who would you be? > > Ravi Yogi Yogi (Yogi), the third honorific needed to avoid being > confused with that other glorious guy that uses a double handle > to avoid being confused with the Sitar player. > > 10. Where would you like to live? > > San Jose > > 11. Your favourite colour? > > See #1 > > 12. Your favourite heroes in fiction? > > Lord Rama > > 13. What characters in history do you most dislike? > > Gandhi and MLK. > > 14. Your favourite names? > > Ravi and Yogi. > > 15. What I hate the most? > > Posters who won't take a stand. > > 16. The military event I admire the most? > > The Mahabharata > > 17. The natural talent I'd like to be gifted with? > > I would like to know more scatological references. > > 18. What is your present state of mind? > > How would I know, I'm not writing this. > > 19. For what fault have you most toleration? > > "excessively loquacious" posting > > > 20. Your favourite motto. > > Woman, love me like my mother and treat me like a guru and we'll get a long just fine. >  > > > > From: Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 1:00:23 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Zombie in My Gas Tank > > >  > Bob - Sorry you are one of the last I'm responding to, that's not because I love you the least, quite the opposite. I was just too touched by your love, attachment and innocence. I didn't want to cause you any more pain by my hasty response. I can be see how you are attached to this project, I know how you came t
[FairfieldLife] Re: ZomGas 1 (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Bob Price wrote: > > > I apologize in advance for the "excessively loquacious" > > nature of this post, I asked the wife what that meant > > and she said: "If you don't want to be thought of a > > pompous ass, just say you're being a "Chatty Cathy". > > In which case you'll be thought of as a sexist pig > instead. Which might be a step up. I may be missing something, but isn't "Chatty Cathy" the name of a plastic toy? Which sex is plastic, so I can recognize plastic sexism in the future if I run across it? :-) Interestingly, the person who provided the voice of the original Chatty Cathy also provided the voice for Talk- ing Tina in a famous Twilight Zone episode (in 3 parts): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-SiF9L5buk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arw9UAXCpH8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt2BWEWZFs4
[FairfieldLife] Freemason kills at least 84??
http://truthfrequencynews.com/?p=6853 Illuminati-Freemason Mind Controled Slave Anders Behring Breivik Identified As Suspect In Norway Shooting
[FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm "for"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > re astrology: My sun sign is Gemini, with Taurus rising. My stepson is the > > opposite. We get along like brothers.> > > Any other gloomy "double" (tropical) Scorpios (Sun & rising) here? > And to add insult to injury, Pluto in the Midheaven!
[FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm "for"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > re astrology: My sun sign is Gemini, with Taurus rising. My stepson is the > opposite. We get along like brothers.> Any other gloomy "double" (tropical) Scorpios (Sun & rising) here?
Re: [FairfieldLife] ZomGas 1 (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)
Yes, I picked up on that reference but didn't have the balls to say anything. --- On Fri, 7/22/11, Sal Sunshine wrote: From: Sal Sunshine Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ZomGas 1 (was Zombie in My Gas Tank) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 7:01 PM On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Bob Price wrote: I apologize in advance for the "excessively loquacious" nature of this post, I asked the wife what that meant and she said: "If you don't want to be thought of a pompous ass, just say you're being a "Chatty Cathy". In which case you'll be thought of as a sexist piginstead. Which might be a step up. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Economic Collapse -- why it won't be stopped (and The Last Mountain)
Thanks for all the advice/encouragement - electronics are just all about patience and perservering (sp?) - I choose this as another spiritual lesson - god bless it :) I have a teacher that recommended a Brother as well. --- On Fri, 7/22/11, whynotnow7 wrote: From: whynotnow7 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Economic Collapse -- why it won't be stopped (and The Last Mountain) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 4:59 PM When you need to replace that HP printer, you may want to go with the Brother brand. I had three HP printers, each one worse that the last. After being stuck with over $100 in ink cartridges after each failure, I bought a Brother all-in-one wireless printer/scanner/fax/copier and found a great deal on-line for ink at $1.50 per cartridge. Fast, cheap and flawless. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans wrote: > > Thank you.  I will read this.  > I have just purchased a MacBook Pro after years on a PC and I have an HP > printer (old) and now cannot print in colorI downloaded the driver, etc. > and it doesn't work, of course. Of course, my 14 year old took down the PC > with viruses, which is why I purchased a Mac. > Have enrolled in school and am taking my first online class along with 2 > others which is sooo much work and of course, my unemployment is tied to > passing and I am sooo behind.  And, I have just realized I have Word 2010 on > the computer - yet another program to figure out - doubling and tripling the > amount of time I have to spend on design/writing assignments.  > Nothing frustrates one more than one's electronics not working when one has > deadlines.  Argghhh - compatibilityhuh? > > --- On Thu, 7/21/11, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: > > From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Economic Collapse -- why it won't be stopped > (and The Last Mountain) > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 8:39 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The following analysis is for those who are interested in the current > financial situation of the United States government. [from factcheck.org] > > > > *Does Washington have a spending problem or an income problem? We offer some > key facts.* > > > > http://factcheck.org/2011/07/fiscal-factcheck/ > > > > This site offers interesting information on politicians and political > organisations (both parties) that twist facts to suit their message. This > current page discusses where the government's income comes from, and where it > goes within some historical perspective. They also provide the references for > their sources of information. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] THOUGHT PROVOKING VIDEO
This is the ultimate conspiracy theory and not new, although this is the first time I have listened to the details. I think it interesting that the very big picture concept of a "new world order" that is on its way is finding its way into all our institutions. Religion, spirituality, politics, the financial industry, etc. How it is described differs depending on the "author" and "target audience." The messages of how to respond however are worthy. I appreciate how he describes the approach to love and how to do that as the mechanism to "fight". I appreciate the concept of non-violent defiance. The forums on this site have topics I'd like to check out...thanks for posting this John. --- On Fri, 7/22/11, johnt wrote: From: johnt Subject: [FairfieldLife] THOUGHT PROVOKING VIDEO To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 9:23 PM http://thecrowhouse.com/nwofs.html
