[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-27 Thread Ravi Yogi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@... wrote:

 -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:

 Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born
  out of a fling with the whore (intellect). The pain, suffering,
  consistent message of this bastard child is always attractive to the
  likes of pain projecting liberals like you.
 

 Why would you use the term projection while doing just that?

 I am not a Buddhist.  I not a pain projecting liberal, whatever that
means.

 Weird game Ravi.  Weird game.


Does my brazenly outrageous weird game given you any hint about the
weird game you play?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-27 Thread Ravi Yogi
Good point - there are only 2 main religions - Hinduism and Judaism,
other eastern and the Judeo-christian religions are their respective
offshoots.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote:

 I'm not sure what the implications of being a child of something
are. Our universe could be the offspring of anther. What became
(eventually) Christianity can be said to be born of Judaism - although I
can't find any mention of the early so-called Christians thinking of
themselves other than Jews. It appears that everything is a child of
something else; and yet a parent too.
 ...
 Stained glass window, Sulkowski Castle, Poland:
 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/49277.jpg

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born
   out of a fling with the whore (intellect). The pain, suffering,
   consistent message of this bastard child is always attractive to
the
   likes of pain projecting liberals like you.
  




[FairfieldLife] Calling ducks!

2011-08-27 Thread cardemaister

Calling ducks with your Nokia phone:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNx-VQzSJ_E

LoL!



[FairfieldLife] The liberation of dropping the concept of liberation

2011-08-27 Thread turquoiseb
One of the things that I think has helped me most in my recapitulation
of my life on the spiritual path, and in my ongoing reassessment of the
value of that life, is dropping the notion of liberation.

NOT in the sense of liberation from the binding effects of one's thought
and actions. I still believe that can and possibly should be achieved;
the less attached we are to the play of the inner and outer worlds on
our self, the better able we probably are to appreciate the wonder of
both worlds.

The sense in which I have abandoned liberation is the way that many
spiritual trips (including Maharishi's) see things -- that once one
realizes enlightened one is liberated from the need to ever again
self-assess or self-monitor. In enlightenment, such dogma teaches, one
is completely in tune with God's will or the Laws Of Nature, and thus
every thought and action is right and wrong thought and wrong action
are no longer possible. Off the hook. Home free. No need to ever even be
concerned with the rightness of our thoughts and actions ever again.

I no longer believe this. My own fleeting experiences with enlightened
states of consciousness has convinced me that they are 1) completely
subjective, and 2) without any appreciable impact on the comings and
goings of the relative world. I found it *just* as possible to fuck up
when in the throes of some passing state of mind that matched
word-for-word MMY's description of one of the higher states of
consciousness as I did in any lesser or lower state of consciousness.
My feeling is that this is a clue I should pay attention to. :-)

Many spiritual seekers seem to view the realization of enlightenment as
synonymous with no longer having to work at life. The Big E will be for
them -- at least in their expectations -- a big Get Out Of Jail Free
card. They will incur no further negative karma because it will be
impossible for them to do so. Every thought and action they have will be
essentially perfect, because now that they're all enlightened and all,
that's just the nature of life. And they know this because someone told
them it was true, and since they assume that the person who told them
this is enlightened, it must be true. They're enlightened, after all;
*everything* they say is true.  :-)

In my imagining of How It All Works, the realization of enlightened
states of mind doesn't really change ANYTHING outside of the mind that
has realized it. It's an additive process, not one based on fundamental
changes to How It All Works. It continues to work exactly the same way
it always did, with the component of 24/7 subjective awareness of our
eternal nature added in to the mix. Thoughts still arise, emotions still
arise, and karma in the form of outside actions we must react to -- or
resist reacting to -- in the relative world still arise. Nothing
changes. Before enlightenment, sport wood and carry condoms; after
enlightenment, ditto.

In my model of How It All Works, the realization of enlightenment would
not impact my need to self-assess and self-monitor in any way. I would
still have to monitor my thoughts, and assess my fleeting emotions via
mindfulness, with the constant realization in mind that I can *always*
fuck up. My hope is that if this enlightenment thang ever happens
permanently for me, this model will help to keep me from becoming as
much of an asshole behind it as some others have been.

Holiness doth not prohibit assholiness IMO. And I base this belief on
examples we have seen of people who declared their enlightenment. Many
of these folks assumed that they now had a cosmic Get Out Of Jail Free
card in their wallets, and as a result *stopped* self-monitoring and
just assumed that everything they thought and did was perfect. My
assessment of their actions was simpler; they were fucking up. The
Supposedly Enlightened have done some WAY stupid shit along the Way,
stuff that their followers make excuses for and say that they cannot
evaluate the same way they would evaluate similar stupid shit in
themselves or in normal people because...well...they're enlightened.

I don't buy this -- for others, or for myself. Liberation to me implies
an even greater need to self-assess and self-monitor, not a relaxation
or cessation of those efforts. If the truly enlightened are truly
special in any way, my hope is that they would perform their
mindfulness even more diligently than ever.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born
   out of a fling with the whore (intellect). The pain, suffering,
   consistent message of this bastard child is always attractive to the
   likes of pain projecting liberals like you.
  
 
  Why would you use the term projection while doing just that?
 
  I am not a Buddhist.  I not a pain projecting liberal, whatever that
 means.
 
  Weird game Ravi.  Weird game.
 
 
 Does my brazenly outrageous weird game given you any hint about the
 weird game you play?


So you thought going cryptic would get you off the hook for misstating my 
beliefs?

You are welcome to make a case that I am playing a weird game.  You aren't 
making it by making false statements and then doubling down when called on them.

I am playing no game here.  I am trying to express my beliefs and invite others 
to express theirs.  I prefer when they employ accuracy and respect for the most 
basic  facts.  Your incoherence just means you are not on board with having an 
upfront discussion. Your choice.  



[FairfieldLife] Re: The liberation of dropping the concept of liberation

2011-08-27 Thread whynotnow7
One of the things that I think has helped me most in my recapitulation of my 
life on the spiritual path, and in my ongoing reassessment of the value of that 
life, is dropping the notion of 'liberation.' 

Yep, if you see the Buddha on the road, kill him. Same thing. 

Liberation is no more a notion or belief than the Milky Way is just a group of 
stars. Any notion of liberation is a trap, some fanciful dream that the ego has 
cooked up in order to contain the concept of liberation. Liberation doesn't 
have to be thought about, or seemingly resolved. It just IS.:-) 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 One of the things that I think has helped me most in my recapitulation
 of my life on the spiritual path, and in my ongoing reassessment of the
 value of that life, is dropping the notion of liberation.
 
 NOT in the sense of liberation from the binding effects of one's thought
 and actions. I still believe that can and possibly should be achieved;
 the less attached we are to the play of the inner and outer worlds on
 our self, the better able we probably are to appreciate the wonder of
 both worlds.
 
 The sense in which I have abandoned liberation is the way that many
 spiritual trips (including Maharishi's) see things -- that once one
 realizes enlightened one is liberated from the need to ever again
 self-assess or self-monitor. In enlightenment, such dogma teaches, one
 is completely in tune with God's will or the Laws Of Nature, and thus
 every thought and action is right and wrong thought and wrong action
 are no longer possible. Off the hook. Home free. No need to ever even be
 concerned with the rightness of our thoughts and actions ever again.
 
 I no longer believe this. My own fleeting experiences with enlightened
 states of consciousness has convinced me that they are 1) completely
 subjective, and 2) without any appreciable impact on the comings and
 goings of the relative world. I found it *just* as possible to fuck up
 when in the throes of some passing state of mind that matched
 word-for-word MMY's description of one of the higher states of
 consciousness as I did in any lesser or lower state of consciousness.
 My feeling is that this is a clue I should pay attention to. :-)
 
 Many spiritual seekers seem to view the realization of enlightenment as
 synonymous with no longer having to work at life. The Big E will be for
 them -- at least in their expectations -- a big Get Out Of Jail Free
 card. They will incur no further negative karma because it will be
 impossible for them to do so. Every thought and action they have will be
 essentially perfect, because now that they're all enlightened and all,
 that's just the nature of life. And they know this because someone told
 them it was true, and since they assume that the person who told them
 this is enlightened, it must be true. They're enlightened, after all;
 *everything* they say is true.  :-)
 
 In my imagining of How It All Works, the realization of enlightened
 states of mind doesn't really change ANYTHING outside of the mind that
 has realized it. It's an additive process, not one based on fundamental
 changes to How It All Works. It continues to work exactly the same way
 it always did, with the component of 24/7 subjective awareness of our
 eternal nature added in to the mix. Thoughts still arise, emotions still
 arise, and karma in the form of outside actions we must react to -- or
 resist reacting to -- in the relative world still arise. Nothing
 changes. Before enlightenment, sport wood and carry condoms; after
 enlightenment, ditto.
 
 In my model of How It All Works, the realization of enlightenment would
 not impact my need to self-assess and self-monitor in any way. I would
 still have to monitor my thoughts, and assess my fleeting emotions via
 mindfulness, with the constant realization in mind that I can *always*
 fuck up. My hope is that if this enlightenment thang ever happens
 permanently for me, this model will help to keep me from becoming as
 much of an asshole behind it as some others have been.
 
 Holiness doth not prohibit assholiness IMO. And I base this belief on
 examples we have seen of people who declared their enlightenment. Many
 of these folks assumed that they now had a cosmic Get Out Of Jail Free
 card in their wallets, and as a result *stopped* self-monitoring and
 just assumed that everything they thought and did was perfect. My
 assessment of their actions was simpler; they were fucking up. The
 Supposedly Enlightened have done some WAY stupid shit along the Way,
 stuff that their followers make excuses for and say that they cannot
 evaluate the same way they would evaluate similar stupid shit in
 themselves or in normal people because...well...they're enlightened.
 
 I don't buy this -- for others, or for myself. Liberation to me implies
 an even greater need to self-assess and self-monitor, not a relaxation
 or cessation of those efforts. If the truly enlightened 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cripple Creek

2011-08-27 Thread whynotnow7
Yes, we appear to be creatures who habitually create patterns from the inward 
and outward perception of our six senses, with storage facilities for those 
perceptions, allowing for imagination and reflection, in order to grow the 
patterns in complexity, which we can then mirror in our physical environment. I 
can only conclude we do this for fun, with the granularity of our creation 
offering endless possibilities for perception, reflection, imagination, and 
expression, vs. dwelling simply in universal pure potential.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 * * Yeah, especially when it comes to the siddhis. But in all honesty, I 
 probably just made this story up, because my mind does love creating patterns 
 out of chaos.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  ...subtlety is always a virtue :-0)
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
  
   * * Feel it? Hell, doubtless I caused it when I asked my wife Rena to -- 
   well, let's just say it was not unlike Curtis's rock me! earthquake 
   siddhi-experience, but delicacy forbids me to go into the details :-)
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
   
Perhaps you are feeling the influence of Hurricane Irene (Irene = 
peace), Rory!:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
 
  On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote:
  
   Cripple Creek, CO; 1890, Departure of Stagecoach:
   http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/47453.jpg
  
  
  One of my very favorite places on Earth.  Great saloon, great ice 
  cream
  parlor.  Regrettably, the place is contaminated with all sorts of 
  sulfates
  and nasty metals like arsenic.  Great times in the Summer.
  
  Now Rory, RC and Ravi should be one the stage.  The one leaving for 
  Cheyenne
  in an hour.
 
 * * I knew you'd take a Cheyenne to us once you got to know us, Tom. 
 And you're quite right, when we're Home, be it ever so humble, there 
 is no where but now here, ever only the one stage. ISness is our 
 business. 
 
 But you know Why Homing requires eight stages, wheels a-spinning, 
 steeds a-grinning from Here to Here, right? (Idaho, but Kali Fornia 
 does; Alaska.)
 
 We are... climbing... Jacob's ... ladder; ... ev'ry ... round goes 
 ... higher, ... higher! 
 
 Yama to Niyama, Shakti to Shiva, Doing to Nondoing.
 
 Feet and ...  Base and ... Sex and ... Navel, ... Heart and ... 
 Throat and ... Brow and ... Crow-hown!
 
 And mounting laboriously from Yama to Asana to Pranayam to 
 Pratyahara, to Dharana to Dhyana to Samdhi to Niyama, we come Home 
 where we have always and all ways been, here and now, in the 
 radiantly Cheyenning secret Sacred Heart amidst the nine. The one 
 stage IS Now, ever has been, and always shall be, whirled without 
 end, Amen.

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Cripple Creek

2011-08-27 Thread richardwillytexwilliams


  my mind does love creating patterns out of chaos.
 
whynotnow7:
 Yes, we appear to be creatures who habitually create 
 patterns from the inward and outward perception of 
 our six senses...

It's obvious that different people may not see the same 
object 'as it is', but may perceive different objects 
when confronted by the same stimulus source. Ofte we 
fail to take into account the 'constructed character of 
knowing'. 

The term constructed character of knowing may be used 
to name the synthesizing process that goes on in the 
brain before experiences are produced. 

According to A.J. Bahm, objects appear in consciousness 
as wholes, or 'gestalts'. They enter experience already 
made. Some unconscious or subconscious process determines 
our conscious experiences for us, even though we can 
never become aware of it.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-27 Thread Vaj

On Aug 26, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@... wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
  
  Snip
  
   But Hinduism gets too complicated, too many paradoxes, ups and downs, too 
   many inconsistencies, like the beloved. It takes love, faith, trust and 
   commitment. Only with love can you accept a person in totality.
   
   No wonder the majority of Americans including Vaj, Barry and Curtis 
   choose Buddhism.
  
  
  Little Hindu triumphalism huh Ravi? Ethno-centric bias is so predictable. 
  So you were born in that part of the world and amazingly enough conclude 
  that the stories they tell are the rightest ones. How convenient!
  
 
 
 Hmm, no, not right stories, the wrong ones too, the good , bad and the ugly, 
 stories of love and hatred, war and peace, life in its all fullness. Buddhism 
 is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born out of a fling with the 
 whore (intellect). The pain, suffering, consistent message of this bastard 
 child is always attractive to the likes of pain projecting liberals like you.


Pretty naive statement. What you have to realize Ravi is that Shakyamuni Buddha 
is just the primary Buddha of this era - there were Buddhas before him and 
there were Buddhas after him. In fact, some believe that Shiva is a corruption 
of a great Bonpo Buddha associated with the kingdom of Xhang Xhung (the area 
around current Mt. Kailash). Some of the Vedic rishis would be Buddhas as 
well...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-27 Thread Vaj

On Aug 26, 2011, at 11:42 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

 -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:
 
 Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born
  out of a fling with the whore (intellect). The pain, suffering,
  consistent message of this bastard child is always attractive to the
  likes of pain projecting liberals like you.
 
 
 Why would you use the term projection while doing just that? 
 
 I am not a Buddhist. I not a pain projecting liberal, whatever that means.
 
 Weird game Ravi. Weird game.

Weird guy, weird guy. I think his whore gave him a spiritual STD. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Revolutionary Transcendental Meditation

2011-08-27 Thread Buck
This is us?

This is us?
Millennial religious and communal movements typically anticipate the
imminent and literal end of what they view as a profoundly wicked, corrupt
existing world order and its replacement by a glorious new heaven and new
earth, in which the first shall be last and the last first,  Describing
millennial groups this way implies that they must be inherently revolutionary
in their underlying goals and their impact upon the larger social order that
they criticize so harshly
   


 Describing millennial movements in this way implies that they must be
inherently revolutionary...
 ...This article will argue, instead, that the complex trajectories of
millennial movements may lead them to two quite different directions -either
toward increasing accommodation with the larger society, on the one hand, or
toward escalating conflict and confrontation that typically results in the
group's dispersal or violent suppression by political power holders, on the
other.


-When do Millennial Religious Movements Become Revolutionary?:   - Lawrence 
Foster
(Communal Studies Association vol 31,1 2011)



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 Choose your millenarian end-of-days and descent of Heaven on Earth.  However, 
 surveying the 60 years of Maharishi and TM in the West or even just the 4 
 decades of TM in Iowa the TM movement as a millenarian movement has tried 
 everything and has both accommodated the larger culture, been suppressed 
 some, and even dispersed.  And it has changed the larger culture some too. 
 Evidently was revolutionary in its time too.
 
  
   
   Yep.  Well of course there is a whole spectrum.  Some of us are and some 
   are not.  Recently I saw Bevan and his people who are around him at a 
   meeting and also I've directly watched and heard him speak within the 
   year a couple of times, and yes they evidently are millenarian.  
   Millennial-ist.  To the extent that he and they have been the right hand 
   of the TM movement all these years and decades, then yes it is.  
   Essentially the TM movement and TM has been and is theirs now.  Certainly 
   TM as a movement is communal at their level and millennial from the 
   inside at that level.   If it walks like a duck and quacks like one, 
   then... in modern times, TM's a millenarian movement. 
   
   
   
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes  
   
   
   
Dedicated millenarians -inspired by their intense emotional commitment 
to goals they view as cosmically important and by their true believer 
millenarian rhetoric- often seek to assist the divine process of 
transformation in which they believe they are participating by taking 
matters into their own hands rather than passively waiting for God to 
inaugurate His kingdom on earth.  Initially, such movements may engage 
in relatively quiet and largely non-confrontational efforts to withdraw 
from what they view as the wicked world around them, in order to try to 
create purer, more communally cohesive groups in preparation for the 
anticipated millennial kingdom.
- Lawrence Foster, Journal of the Communal Studies Association 
vol31:1,2011

   
   
   

 
 
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes 
  are we millennialists?
  
 
 
 This is us?
  Millennial religious and communal movements typically anticipate 
 the imminent and literal end of what they view as a profoundly 
 wicked, corrupt existing world order and its replacement by a 
 glorious new heaven and new earth, in which the first shall be 
 last and the last first,   Describing millennial groups this way 
 implies that they must be inherently revolutionary in their 
 underlying goals and their impact upon the larger social order that 
 they criticize so harshly
 
  
  
  Describing millennial movements in this way implies that they must be 
  inherently revolutionary...
  ...This article will argue, instead, that the complex trajectories of 
  millennial movements may lead them to two quite different directions 
  -either toward increasing accommodation with the larger society, on the one 
  hand, or toward escalating conflict and confrontation that typically 
  results in the group's dispersal or violent suppression by political power 
  holders, on the other.  
  
  Lawrence Foster , Journal of the Communal Studies Association  v31-1, 2011
  
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote:
   
Oh, oh..you just confirmed to Buck (and no doubt Tex) that 
you're in on it too Rick.

   
   Rick, in meditator typology? Naw, i know Rick, he's one of them 
   progressive maoist meditators.  Like Hagelin.
   
   As in: ...those who envision a gradually improving world 
   (progressive millennialists--Shakers, some Marxists, many 
   

[FairfieldLife] Something Kinda Funny

2011-08-27 Thread seventhray1
http://oddnews.yahoo.com/video-odd-news-26411321



[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-27 Thread richardwillytexwilliams


Ravi Yogi:
 Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child...

There was no 'Hinduism' at the time of the
Buddha, Shakya the Muni. Hinduism came much 
later, after the rise of the devotional 
sects, during the Gupta Age of Indian 
history.

In South Asian history, first came the Mound 
Builders, then the Dravidians who built 
Harrapa on the Indus; then came the Aryan
speakers, who composed the Rig Veda.

The Hindu sects - Shivaism, Bhakti, and the
Vedanta, all came after the historical 
Buddha (563 BC).



[FairfieldLife] Re: Cripple Creek

2011-08-27 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams willytex@... 
wrote:

 
 
   my mind does love creating patterns out of chaos.
  
 whynotnow7:
  Yes, we appear to be creatures who habitually create 
  patterns from the inward and outward perception of 
  our six senses...
 
 It's obvious that different people may not see the same 
 object 'as it is', but may perceive different objects 
 when confronted by the same stimulus source. Ofte we 
 fail to take into account the 'constructed character of 
 knowing'. 
 
 The term constructed character of knowing may be used 
 to name the synthesizing process that goes on in the 
 brain before experiences are produced. 
 
 According to A.J. Bahm, objects appear in consciousness 
 as wholes, or 'gestalts'. They enter experience already 
 made. Some unconscious or subconscious process determines 
 our conscious experiences for us, even though we can 
 never become aware of it.

* * Never is a very long time!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Cripple Creek

2011-08-27 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams willytex@... 
wrote:

 
 
   my mind does love creating patterns out of chaos.
  
 whynotnow7:
  Yes, we appear to be creatures who habitually create 
  patterns from the inward and outward perception of 
  our six senses...
 
 It's obvious that different people may not see the same 
 object 'as it is', but may perceive different objects 
 when confronted by the same stimulus source. Ofte we 
 fail to take into account the 'constructed character of 
 knowing'. 
 
 The term constructed character of knowing may be used 
 to name the synthesizing process that goes on in the 
 brain before experiences are produced. 
 
 According to A.J. Bahm, objects appear in consciousness 
 as wholes, or 'gestalts'. They enter experience already 
 made. Some unconscious or subconscious process determines 
 our conscious experiences for us, even though we can 
 never become aware of it.

* * What, never?

No, never!

What, never?

Hardly ever!

(HM. Spin a four; tour hyah and if you wanna good story, abhaya one for free!) 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Escape from the Jersey Shore

2011-08-27 Thread raunchydog
Lena Horne - Stormy Weather (1943) 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCG3kJtQBKo



[FairfieldLife] Church of the Giant Radiantly Luminous Jellyfish

2011-08-27 Thread RoryGoff
* * I just watched Star Trek TNG, episode I, for the first time (the whole 
series is available on Netflix WI). ** SPOILER ALERT: If you haven't seen it 
and wish to watch it fresh, please stop reading now! * *  

Called Encounter at Far Point, the episode surprised me as it features our 
old friends the Giant Radiantly Luminous Jellyfish! Able to materialize objects 
from energy, one of this species was captured by a lesser species and 
imprisoned onplanet and harnessed to create a Star Base to enable the lesser 
species to join the Federation. Our heroes, Capt. Picard et al., inspect the 
Star Base and persevere through obstacles thrown up by the mischievous Q to 
eventually discover the prisoner's plight and free it to meet its mate, who is 
still in space, resembling a giant flying saucer. A lot of truth in this 
episode! They look much like our crown chakras, which do indeed materialize 
substance from energy, and in many of us are imprisoned within a 
strictly-materialistic worldview.

(Also, FWIW the luminous discs or UFOs which supervised our 
frequency-acceleration, levitation and dematerialization in 1986 felt like our 
own Higher Selves or semi-detached crown chakras...)



[FairfieldLife] Purusha and Mother Divine turn Irene from DC

2011-08-27 Thread Buck
You following the radar images?  Amazing how powerful the protection of the 
TM-siddhi program really is. I sense there is an affinity between TM and the DC 
area.  We've been there a lot.  It seems to work so really well.

-Buck in FF

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:

 Lena Horne - Stormy Weather (1943) 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCG3kJtQBKo





[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha and Mother Divine turn Irene from DC

2011-08-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
The full force hasn't hit us yet.  Later tonight.
 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 You following the radar images?  Amazing how powerful the protection of the 
 TM-siddhi program really is. I sense there is an affinity between TM and the 
 DC area.  We've been there a lot.  It seems to work so really well.
 
 -Buck in FF
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  Lena Horne - Stormy Weather (1943) 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCG3kJtQBKo
 





[FairfieldLife] Let Them Eat Baklava: Food Prices and the Arab Spring

2011-08-27 Thread Bhairitu
“From now on, price pressure and shortages of resources will be a 
permanent feature of our lives,” he contends. “The world is using up its 
natural resources at an alarming rate, and this has caused a permanent 
shift in their value. We all need to adjust our behavior to this new 
environment. It would help if we did it quickly.”

Article here:
http://whowhatwhy.com/2011/08/26/let-them-eat-baklava-food-prices-and-the-arab-spring/

We're all so lucky that we are yogis and can live on air if we need to. ;-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha and Mother Divine turn Irene from DC

2011-08-27 Thread cardemaister

Because Yogic Flying obviusly is based on the same brahman*-
force that causes the expansion of the universe to accelerate,
I gather levitons, antiparticles of hypothetical gravitons,
the force carriers of the pulling component (Shiva) of Brahma(n),
are to blame. 

Perhaps YF causes some kind of concentration, or whatever,
of levitons, that might annihiliate or at least diminish
the force of hurricanes, and stuff... (naah, just kidding!).

* The verbal root of 'brahma(n)' and 'brahmaa' (The Creator),of 
course, is bRh:

bRh 2 or %{bRMh} cl. 1. P. (Dha1tup. xvii , 85) %{bRMhati} (also 
%{-te} S3Br. and %{bRhati} AV. ; pf. %{babarha} AV. ; A. p. %{babRhANa4} RV.) , 
to be thick , grow great or strong , increase (the finite verb only with a 
prep.): Caus. %{bRMhayati} , %{-te} (also written %{vR-}) , to make big or fat 
or strong , increase , ***expand*** , further , promote MBh. Katha1s. Pur. 
Sus3r. ; 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 You following the radar images?  Amazing how powerful the protection of the 
 TM-siddhi program really is. I sense there is an affinity between TM and the 
 DC area.  We've been there a lot.  It seems to work so really well.
 
 -Buck in FF
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  Lena Horne - Stormy Weather (1943) 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCG3kJtQBKo
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Church of the Giant Radiantly Luminous Jellyfish

2011-08-27 Thread turquoiseb
I love it, Rory, but I'm just SO not going to go there. :-)
First, I haven't seen the episode in question since it first
aired. Second, when I read about the Giant Radiantly Luminous
Jellyfish, I couldn't help but hope that the followers of the
Flying Spaghetti Monster know of this episode. Mentally flash-
forwarding from that, I experienced an entertaining vision of 
them partying down next to the other Trekkies at a convention,
only wearing big jellyfish costumes. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 * * I just watched Star Trek TNG, episode I, for the first time (the whole 
 series is available on Netflix WI). ** SPOILER ALERT: If you haven't seen it 
 and wish to watch it fresh, please stop reading now! * *  
 
 Called Encounter at Far Point, the episode surprised me as it features our 
 old friends the Giant Radiantly Luminous Jellyfish! Able to materialize 
 objects from energy, one of this species was captured by a lesser species 
 and imprisoned onplanet and harnessed to create a Star Base to enable the 
 lesser species to join the Federation. Our heroes, Capt. Picard et al., 
 inspect the Star Base and persevere through obstacles thrown up by the 
 mischievous Q to eventually discover the prisoner's plight and free it to 
 meet its mate, who is still in space, resembling a giant flying saucer. A lot 
 of truth in this episode! They look much like our crown chakras, which do 
 indeed materialize substance from energy, and in many of us are imprisoned 
 within a strictly-materialistic worldview.
 
 (Also, FWIW the luminous discs or UFOs which supervised our 
 frequency-acceleration, levitation and dematerialization in 1986 felt like 
 our own Higher Selves or semi-detached crown chakras...)





[FairfieldLife] The Fed Audit

2011-08-27 Thread nablusoss1008
The Fed Audit
Share This


July 21, 2011

The first top-to-bottom audit of the Federal Reserve uncovered
eye-popping new details about how the U.S. provided a whopping $16
trillion in secret loans to bail out American and foreign banks and
businesses during the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.
An amendment by Sen. Bernie Sanders to the Wall Street reform law passed
one year ago this week directed the Government Accountability Office
http://sanders.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/GAO%20Fed%20Investigation.pdf 
to conduct the study. As a result of this audit, we now know that the
Federal Reserve provided more than $16 trillion in total financial
assistance to some of the largest financial institutions and
corporations in the United States and throughout the world, said
Sanders. This is a clear case of socialism for the rich and rugged,
you're-on-your-own individualism for everyone else.

Among the investigation's key findings is that the Fed unilaterally
provided trillions of dollars in financial assistance to foreign banks
and corporations from South Korea to Scotland, according to the GAO
report. No agency of the United States government should be allowed to
bailout a foreign bank or corporation without the direct approval of
Congress and the president, Sanders said.

The non-partisan, investigative arm of Congress also determined that the
Fed lacks a comprehensive system to deal with conflicts of interest,
despite the serious potential for abuse.  In fact, according to the
report, the Fed provided conflict of interest waivers to employees and
private contractors so they could keep investments in the same financial
institutions and corporations that were given emergency loans.

For example, the CEO of JP Morgan Chase served on the New York Fed's
board of directors at the same time that his bank received more than
$390 billion in financial assistance from the Fed.  Moreover, JP Morgan
Chase served as one of the clearing banks for the Fed's emergency
lending programs.

In another disturbing finding, the GAO said that on Sept. 19, 2008,
William Dudley, who is now the New York Fed president, was granted a
waiver to let him keep investments in AIG and General Electric at the
same time AIG and GE were given bailout funds.  One reason the Fed did
not make Dudley sell his holdings, according to the audit, was that it
might have created the appearance of a conflict of interest.

To Sanders, the conclusion is simple. No one who works for a firm
receiving direct financial assistance from the Fed should be allowed to
sit on the Fed's board of directors or be employed by the Fed, he said.

The investigation also revealed that the Fed outsourced most of its
emergency lending programs to private contractors, many of which also
were recipients of extremely low-interest and then-secret loans.

The Fed outsourced virtually all of the operations of their emergency
lending programs to private contractors like JP Morgan Chase, Morgan
Stanley, and Wells Fargo.  The same firms also received trillions of
dollars in Fed loans at near-zero interest rates. Altogether some
two-thirds of the contracts that the Fed awarded to manage its emergency
lending programs were no-bid contracts. Morgan Stanley was given the
largest no-bid contract worth $108.4 million to help manage the Fed
bailout of AIG.

A more detailed GAO investigation into potential conflicts of interest
at the Fed is due on Oct. 18, but Sanders said one thing already is
abundantly clear. The Federal Reserve must be reformed to serve the
needs of working families, not just CEOs on Wall Street.

To read the GAO report, click here
http://sanders.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/GAO%20Fed%20Investigation.pdf
.

http://rajpatel.org/ http://rajpatel.org/



[FairfieldLife] Re: Church of the Giant Radiantly Luminous Jellyfish

2011-08-27 Thread RoryGoff
* * Right, Barry! As you may recall, I was thinking of the Flying Spaghetti 
Monster when I founded the Church of the Giant Radiantly Luminous Jellyfish. 
However, we really need to get some zealous young missionaries over to them to 
spread the Good News that theirs is a false idol, whereas our God is REAL! :-D

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 I love it, Rory, but I'm just SO not going to go there. :-)
 First, I haven't seen the episode in question since it first
 aired. Second, when I read about the Giant Radiantly Luminous
 Jellyfish, I couldn't help but hope that the followers of the
 Flying Spaghetti Monster know of this episode. Mentally flash-
 forwarding from that, I experienced an entertaining vision of 
 them partying down next to the other Trekkies at a convention,
 only wearing big jellyfish costumes. 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  * * I just watched Star Trek TNG, episode I, for the first time (the whole 
  series is available on Netflix WI). ** SPOILER ALERT: If you haven't seen 
  it and wish to watch it fresh, please stop reading now! * *  
  
  Called Encounter at Far Point, the episode surprised me as it features 
  our old friends the Giant Radiantly Luminous Jellyfish! Able to materialize 
  objects from energy, one of this species was captured by a lesser species 
  and imprisoned onplanet and harnessed to create a Star Base to enable the 
  lesser species to join the Federation. Our heroes, Capt. Picard et al., 
  inspect the Star Base and persevere through obstacles thrown up by the 
  mischievous Q to eventually discover the prisoner's plight and free it to 
  meet its mate, who is still in space, resembling a giant flying saucer. A 
  lot of truth in this episode! They look much like our crown chakras, which 
  do indeed materialize substance from energy, and in many of us are 
  imprisoned within a strictly-materialistic worldview.
  
  (Also, FWIW the luminous discs or UFOs which supervised our 
  frequency-acceleration, levitation and dematerialization in 1986 felt like 
  our own Higher Selves or semi-detached crown chakras...)
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha and Mother Divine turn Irene from DC

2011-08-27 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 You following the radar images?  Amazing how powerful the protection of the 
 TM-siddhi program really is. I sense there is an affinity between TM and the 
 DC area.  We've been there a lot.  It seems to work so really well.
 
 -Buck in FF


Interesting. Where are the maps you see this ?


 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  Lena Horne - Stormy Weather (1943) 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCG3kJtQBKo
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-27 Thread Ravi Yogi


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 
 On Aug 26, 2011, at 11:42 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
 
  -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
  
  Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born
   out of a fling with the whore (intellect). The pain, suffering,
   consistent message of this bastard child is always attractive to the
   likes of pain projecting liberals like you.
  
  
  Why would you use the term projection while doing just that? 
  
  I am not a Buddhist. I not a pain projecting liberal, whatever that means.
  
  Weird game Ravi. Weird game.
 
 Weird guy, weird guy. I think his whore gave him a spiritual STD. :-)


A good one Vakri, I'm so happy to see you having a lighter moment, anything 
that gives you comfort from the constant choking of your parroted shit.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-27 Thread Ravi Yogi


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 
 On Aug 26, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
   
   Snip
   
But Hinduism gets too complicated, too many paradoxes, ups and downs, 
too many inconsistencies, like the beloved. It takes love, faith, trust 
and commitment. Only with love can you accept a person in totality.

No wonder the majority of Americans including Vaj, Barry and Curtis 
choose Buddhism.
   
   
   Little Hindu triumphalism huh Ravi? Ethno-centric bias is so predictable. 
   So you were born in that part of the world and amazingly enough conclude 
   that the stories they tell are the rightest ones. How convenient!
   
  
  
  Hmm, no, not right stories, the wrong ones too, the good , bad and the 
  ugly, stories of love and hatred, war and peace, life in its all fullness. 
  Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born out of a fling 
  with the whore (intellect). The pain, suffering, consistent message of this 
  bastard child is always attractive to the likes of pain projecting liberals 
  like you.
 
 
 Pretty naive statement. What you have to realize Ravi is that Shakyamuni 
 Buddha is just the primary Buddha of this era - there were Buddhas before him 
 and there were Buddhas after him. In fact, some believe that Shiva is a 
 corruption of a great Bonpo Buddha associated with the kingdom of Xhang Xhung 
 (the area around current Mt. Kailash). Some of the Vedic rishis would be 
 Buddhas as well...


Whatever rocks your boat Vakri, it's a big burden to be the illegitimate child 
that too of the whore and trust me, I totally sympathize with you and will not 
take offense at these tall tales.



[FairfieldLife] A Gift for Maharishi and 55 million people on the East Coast of USA

2011-08-27 Thread Dick Mays

Forwarded from: Diane Rosenberg drosenb...@lisco.com


Dear Friends,

My Mom and brother are on Long Island, smack where Hurricane Irene is 
scheduled to land next, so I have a vested interest in our 
community's ability to stave off devastation from this hurricane. I'm 
passing along this heartfelt letter and hope you take a moment to 
read it.


Thanks very much,
Diane


Dear friends,

Please join me in giving a gift to Maharishi and the 55 million 
peolpe who are in harms way of Hurricane Irene. As I write to you 
this morning, family and friends up and down the entire East Coast 
from the Carolinas to New York to Maine are being evacuated from 
coastal, low lying areas. For the first time in New York City's 
history, over 300,000 people were given mandatory evacuation notices. 
Trains, subways and buses of mass transit will close at noon today in 
preparation for this hurricane. All airlines will be closed at noon.


What can we do to help these people? Is it too little, too late? 
Perhaps not. Maybe, just maybe we have a technique to change this 
forecast.


Maharishi told us 5 years ago, With 2000, you will begin to see the 
desired changes in society When he started the Invincible 
America Assembly here in Fairfield at that time, he gave us a gift, 
his blessing, not only for us but all of America. Do you remember 
listening to America the Beautiful when we entered and left the 
Golden Domes each day? It always brought tears to my eyes when I 
heard it. Well, today and tomorrow and EVERYDAY, we have an 
opportunity to give a gift back to Maharishi.


What's the gift? Give Maharishi the gift of 2000 joined together in 
Blissful meditation each and every day in our golden domes. This is 
all he asked of us. Maharishi's desire is still waiting to be 
fulfilled. Let's just DO IT ... DO IT TODAY ... make him proud of us, 
show him our gratitude for everything he has given us over the last 
30-40 years.


We are so very blessed not only to have his knowledge of eternal life 
and bliss in our lives, but to live in such a precious community as 
Fairfield. Let's join together, ask your friends to join us and 
maybe, just maybe, we can fulfill Maharishi's statement that We are 
changing the destiny of mankind for all those people in the way of 
this hurricane and all future hurricanes.


Thanks you from the bottom of my very grateful heart for listening. 
See you in the Golden Domes!!!


Jai Guru Dev
Sharon Starr

P.S. Please forgive me if I send this to you twice. I sent it out to 
a few of my mailing lists. Why not do the same?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-27 Thread Ravi Yogi

You already know it Curtis, I always have a single pointed agenda, all the word 
play is just a mask. I'm not here to indulge in foreplays for yours or anyone 
else's intellectual hard-ons.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
  
   Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born
out of a fling with the whore (intellect). The pain, suffering,
consistent message of this bastard child is always attractive to the
likes of pain projecting liberals like you.
   
  
   Why would you use the term projection while doing just that?
  
   I am not a Buddhist.  I not a pain projecting liberal, whatever that
  means.
  
   Weird game Ravi.  Weird game.
  
  
  Does my brazenly outrageous weird game given you any hint about the
  weird game you play?
 
 
 So you thought going cryptic would get you off the hook for misstating my 
 beliefs?
 
 You are welcome to make a case that I am playing a weird game.  You aren't 
 making it by making false statements and then doubling down when called on 
 them.
 
 I am playing no game here.  I am trying to express my beliefs and invite 
 others to express theirs.  I prefer when they employ accuracy and respect for 
 the most basic  facts.  Your incoherence just means you are not on board with 
 having an upfront discussion. Your choice.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Treat Ron Paul with Extreme Caution

2011-08-27 Thread wgm4u
He also hates little children and steps on ants..

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 5 Reasons Progressives Should Treat Ron Paul with Extreme Caution --
 'Cuddly' Libertarian Has Some Very Dark Politics
 
 He's anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-black, anti-senior-citizen, anti-equality
 and anti-education, and that's just the start. 
 
 August 26, 2011 | 
 
 Description:
 http://images.alternet.org/images/managed/blogteaser_ronpaulrevolution.jpg_3
 10x220
 
 There are few things as maddening in a maddening political season as the
 warm and fuzzy feelings some progressives evince for Rep. Ron Paul of Texas,
 the Republican presidential candidate. The anti-war Republican, people
 say, as if that's good enough.
 
 But Ron Paul is much, much more than that. He's the anti-Civil-Rights-Act
 Republican. He's an anti-reproductive-rights Republican. He's a
 gay-demonizing Republican. He's an anti-public education Republican and an
 anti-Social Security Republican. He's the John Birch Society's favorite
 congressman. And he's a booster of the Constitution Party, which has a
 Christian Reconstructionist platform. So, if you're a member of the
 anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-black, anti-senior-citizen, anti-equality,
 anti-education, pro-communist-witch-hunt wing of the progressive movement, I
 can see how he'd be your guy.
 
 Paul first drew the attention of progressives with his vocal opposition to
 the invasion of Iraq. Coupled with the Texan's famous call to end the
 Federal Reserve,  that somehow rendered him, in the eyes of the
 single-minded, the GOP's very own Dennis Kucinich. Throw in Paul's
 opposition to the drug war and his belief that marriage rights should be
 determined by the states, and Paul seemed suitable enough to an emotionally
 immature segment of the progressive movement, a wing populated by people
 with privilege adequate enough to insulate them from the nasty bits of the
 Paul agenda. (Tough on you blacks! And you, women! And you, queers! And you,
 old people without money.)
 
 Ron Paul's anti-war stance, you see, comes not from a cry for peace, but
 from the deeply held isolationism of the far right. Some may say that, when
 it comes to ending the slaughter of innocents, the ends justify the means.
 But, in the case of Ron Paul, the ends involve trading the rights and
 security of a great many Americans for the promise of non-intervention.
 
 Here's a list -- by no means comprehensive -- of Ron Paul positions and
 associates that should explain, once and for all, why no self-respecting
 progressive could possibly sidle up to Paul.
 
 1) Ron Paul on Race
 
 Based on his religious adherence to his purportedly libertarian principles,
 Ron Paul opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Unlike his son, Sen. Rand Paul,
 R-Ky., Ron Paul has not even tried to walk back from this position. In fact,
 he wears it proudly. Here's an excerpt
 http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul188.html  from Ron Paul's 2004 floor
 speech about the Civil Rights Act, in which he explains why he voted against
 a House resolution honoring the 40th anniversary of the law:
 
 The Civil Rights Act of 1964 not only violated the Constitution and reduced
 individual liberty; it also failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting
 racial harmony and a color-blind society. Federal bureaucrats and judges
 cannot read minds to see if actions are motivated by racism. Therefore, the
 only way the federal government could ensure an employer was not violating
 the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was to ensure that the racial composition of a
 business's workforce matched the racial composition of a bureaucrat or
 judge's defined body of potential employees. Thus, bureaucrats began forcing
 employers to hire by racial quota. Racial quotas have not contributed to
 racial harmony or advanced the goal of a color-blind society. Instead, these
 quotas encouraged racial balkanization, and fostered racial strife. 
 
 He also said this
 http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/533817/ron_pauls_libertarian_newsl
 etters_revealed_pg4.html?cat=9 : [T]he forced integration dictated by the
 Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing
 individual liberty.
 
 Ron Paul also occasionally appears at events sponsored by the John Birch
 Society, the segregationist right-wing organization that is closely aligned
 with the Christian Reconstructionist wing of the religious right.
 
 In 2008, James Kirchick brought to light in the pages of the New Republic a
 number of newsletters with Paul's name in the title -- Ron Paul's Freedom
 Report, Ron Paul Political Report, The Ron Paul Survival Report, and The Ron
 Paul Investment Letter -- that contained baldly racist material, which Paul
 denied writing.
 
 At NewsOne, Casey Gane-McCalla reported
 http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/opinion-ron-paul-is-a-white-su
 premacist/  a number of these vitriolic diatribes, including this, on the
 L.A. riots after the Rodney 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Gift for Maharishi and 55 million people on the East Coast of USA

2011-08-27 Thread seventhray1

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@... wrote:
 Forwarded from: Diane Rosenberg drosenberg@...
 P.S. Please forgive me if I send this to you twice. I sent it out to
 a few of my mailing lists. Why not do the same?

At least she didn't threaten me with getting run over by a bus in the
next 24 hours if I didn't send it to 15 more people.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Treat Ron Paul with Extreme Caution

2011-08-27 Thread Robert
He has zero charisma, and zero chance of winning, so not to worry...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 5 Reasons Progressives Should Treat Ron Paul with Extreme Caution --
 'Cuddly' Libertarian Has Some Very Dark Politics
 
 He's anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-black, anti-senior-citizen, anti-equality
 and anti-education, and that's just the start. 
 
 August 26, 2011 | 
 
 Description:
 http://images.alternet.org/images/managed/blogteaser_ronpaulrevolution.jpg_3
 10x220
 
 There are few things as maddening in a maddening political season as the
 warm and fuzzy feelings some progressives evince for Rep. Ron Paul of Texas,
 the Republican presidential candidate. The anti-war Republican, people
 say, as if that's good enough.
 
 But Ron Paul is much, much more than that. He's the anti-Civil-Rights-Act
 Republican. He's an anti-reproductive-rights Republican. He's a
 gay-demonizing Republican. He's an anti-public education Republican and an
 anti-Social Security Republican. He's the John Birch Society's favorite
 congressman. And he's a booster of the Constitution Party, which has a
 Christian Reconstructionist platform. So, if you're a member of the
 anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-black, anti-senior-citizen, anti-equality,
 anti-education, pro-communist-witch-hunt wing of the progressive movement, I
 can see how he'd be your guy.
 
 Paul first drew the attention of progressives with his vocal opposition to
 the invasion of Iraq. Coupled with the Texan's famous call to end the
 Federal Reserve,  that somehow rendered him, in the eyes of the
 single-minded, the GOP's very own Dennis Kucinich. Throw in Paul's
 opposition to the drug war and his belief that marriage rights should be
 determined by the states, and Paul seemed suitable enough to an emotionally
 immature segment of the progressive movement, a wing populated by people
 with privilege adequate enough to insulate them from the nasty bits of the
 Paul agenda. (Tough on you blacks! And you, women! And you, queers! And you,
 old people without money.)
 
 Ron Paul's anti-war stance, you see, comes not from a cry for peace, but
 from the deeply held isolationism of the far right. Some may say that, when
 it comes to ending the slaughter of innocents, the ends justify the means.
 But, in the case of Ron Paul, the ends involve trading the rights and
 security of a great many Americans for the promise of non-intervention.
 
 Here's a list -- by no means comprehensive -- of Ron Paul positions and
 associates that should explain, once and for all, why no self-respecting
 progressive could possibly sidle up to Paul.
 
 1) Ron Paul on Race
 
 Based on his religious adherence to his purportedly libertarian principles,
 Ron Paul opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Unlike his son, Sen. Rand Paul,
 R-Ky., Ron Paul has not even tried to walk back from this position. In fact,
 he wears it proudly. Here's an excerpt
 http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul188.html  from Ron Paul's 2004 floor
 speech about the Civil Rights Act, in which he explains why he voted against
 a House resolution honoring the 40th anniversary of the law:
 
 The Civil Rights Act of 1964 not only violated the Constitution and reduced
 individual liberty; it also failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting
 racial harmony and a color-blind society. Federal bureaucrats and judges
 cannot read minds to see if actions are motivated by racism. Therefore, the
 only way the federal government could ensure an employer was not violating
 the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was to ensure that the racial composition of a
 business's workforce matched the racial composition of a bureaucrat or
 judge's defined body of potential employees. Thus, bureaucrats began forcing
 employers to hire by racial quota. Racial quotas have not contributed to
 racial harmony or advanced the goal of a color-blind society. Instead, these
 quotas encouraged racial balkanization, and fostered racial strife. 
 
 He also said this
 http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/533817/ron_pauls_libertarian_newsl
 etters_revealed_pg4.html?cat=9 : [T]he forced integration dictated by the
 Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing
 individual liberty.
 
 Ron Paul also occasionally appears at events sponsored by the John Birch
 Society, the segregationist right-wing organization that is closely aligned
 with the Christian Reconstructionist wing of the religious right.
 
 In 2008, James Kirchick brought to light in the pages of the New Republic a
 number of newsletters with Paul's name in the title -- Ron Paul's Freedom
 Report, Ron Paul Political Report, The Ron Paul Survival Report, and The Ron
 Paul Investment Letter -- that contained baldly racist material, which Paul
 denied writing.
 
 At NewsOne, Casey Gane-McCalla reported
 http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/opinion-ron-paul-is-a-white-su
 premacist/  a number of these vitriolic diatribes, including this, on the
 L.A. riots 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 
 You already know it Curtis, I always have a single pointed agenda, all the 
 word play is just a mask. I'm not here to indulge in foreplays for yours or 
 anyone else's intellectual hard-ons.

You have made it clear repeatedly that you are above it all.  Unfortunately I 
don't share that view of your posts so I'm gunna hold you accountable for any 
bullshit that includes my name. 






 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
   
Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born
 out of a fling with the whore (intellect). The pain, suffering,
 consistent message of this bastard child is always attractive to the
 likes of pain projecting liberals like you.

   
Why would you use the term projection while doing just that?
   
I am not a Buddhist.  I not a pain projecting liberal, whatever that
   means.
   
Weird game Ravi.  Weird game.
   
   
   Does my brazenly outrageous weird game given you any hint about the
   weird game you play?
  
  
  So you thought going cryptic would get you off the hook for misstating my 
  beliefs?
  
  You are welcome to make a case that I am playing a weird game.  You aren't 
  making it by making false statements and then doubling down when called on 
  them.
  
  I am playing no game here.  I am trying to express my beliefs and invite 
  others to express theirs.  I prefer when they employ accuracy and respect 
  for the most basic  facts.  Your incoherence just means you are not on 
  board with having an upfront discussion. Your choice.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha and Mother Divine turn Irene from DC

2011-08-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  You following the radar images?  Amazing how powerful the protection of the 
  TM-siddhi program really is. I sense there is an affinity between TM and 
  the DC area.  We've been there a lot.  It seems to work so really well.
  
  -Buck in FF
 
 
 Interesting. Where are the maps you see this ?

Just close your eyes Nabby.  There you go.  




 
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
  
   Lena Horne - Stormy Weather (1943) 
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCG3kJtQBKo
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Cripple Creek

2011-08-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 Yes, we appear to be creatures who habitually create patterns from the inward 
 and outward perception of our six senses, with storage facilities for those 
 perceptions, allowing for imagination and reflection, in order to grow the 
 patterns in complexity, which we can then mirror in our physical environment. 
 I can only conclude we do this for fun, with the granularity of our creation 
 offering endless possibilities for perception, reflection, imagination, and 
 expression, vs. dwelling simply in universal pure potential. 


I'm pretty sure we have this skill because any ancestor who lacked it got eaten 
by something bigger.



 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  * * Yeah, especially when it comes to the siddhis. But in all honesty, I 
  probably just made this story up, because my mind does love creating 
  patterns out of chaos.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
  
   ...subtlety is always a virtue :-0)
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
   
* * Feel it? Hell, doubtless I caused it when I asked my wife Rena to 
-- well, let's just say it was not unlike Curtis's rock me! 
earthquake siddhi-experience, but delicacy forbids me to go into the 
details :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:

 Perhaps you are feeling the influence of Hurricane Irene (Irene = 
 peace), Rory!:-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
  
   On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote:
   
Cripple Creek, CO; 1890, Departure of Stagecoach:
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/47453.jpg
   
   
   One of my very favorite places on Earth.  Great saloon, great ice 
   cream
   parlor.  Regrettably, the place is contaminated with all sorts of 
   sulfates
   and nasty metals like arsenic.  Great times in the Summer.
   
   Now Rory, RC and Ravi should be one the stage.  The one leaving 
   for Cheyenne
   in an hour.
  
  * * I knew you'd take a Cheyenne to us once you got to know us, 
  Tom. And you're quite right, when we're Home, be it ever so humble, 
  there is no where but now here, ever only the one stage. ISness is 
  our business. 
  
  But you know Why Homing requires eight stages, wheels a-spinning, 
  steeds a-grinning from Here to Here, right? (Idaho, but Kali Fornia 
  does; Alaska.)
  
  We are... climbing... Jacob's ... ladder; ... ev'ry ... round goes 
  ... higher, ... higher! 
  
  Yama to Niyama, Shakti to Shiva, Doing to Nondoing.
  
  Feet and ...  Base and ... Sex and ... Navel, ... Heart and ... 
  Throat and ... Brow and ... Crow-hown!
  
  And mounting laboriously from Yama to Asana to Pranayam to 
  Pratyahara, to Dharana to Dhyana to Samdhi to Niyama, we come Home 
  where we have always and all ways been, here and now, in the 
  radiantly Cheyenning secret Sacred Heart amidst the nine. The one 
  stage IS Now, ever has been, and always shall be, whirled without 
  end, Amen.
 

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Revolutionary Transcendental Meditation

2011-08-27 Thread Buck
Evidently it's true, that (Maharishi)

 [Noyes] with (Transcendental Meditation) evidently ably utilized the wide 
range of social and financial connections at his disposal to create a 
millennial group that skillfully pursued its objectives with in American 
society for more than three (five) decades.  ... might appear as extreme at 
first sight, the group is actually a remarkable example of how a millennial 
group can successfully develop its own distinctive identity, while avoiding 
destructive confrontation with larger society.
-When do Millennial Religious Movements Become Revolutionary?:   - Lawrence 
Foster
(Communal Studies Association vol 31,1 2011)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 This is us?
 
 This is us?
 Millennial religious and communal movements typically anticipate the
 imminent and literal end of what they view as a profoundly wicked, corrupt
 existing world order and its replacement by a glorious new heaven and new
 earth, in which the first shall be last and the last first,  Describing
 millennial groups this way implies that they must be inherently 
 revolutionary
 in their underlying goals and their impact upon the larger social order that
 they criticize so harshly

 
 
  Describing millennial movements in this way implies that they must be
 inherently revolutionary...
  ...This article will argue, instead, that the complex trajectories of
 millennial movements may lead them to two quite different directions -either
 toward increasing accommodation with the larger society, on the one hand, or
 toward escalating conflict and confrontation that typically results in the
 group's dispersal or violent suppression by political power holders, on the
 other.
 
 
 -When do Millennial Religious Movements Become Revolutionary?:   - Lawrence 
 Foster
 (Communal Studies Association vol 31,1 2011)
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  Choose your millenarian end-of-days and descent of Heaven on Earth.  
  However, surveying the 60 years of Maharishi and TM in the West or even 
  just the 4 decades of TM in Iowa the TM movement as a millenarian movement 
  has tried everything and has both accommodated the larger culture, been 
  suppressed some, and even dispersed.  And it has changed the larger culture 
  some too. Evidently was revolutionary in its time too.
  
   

Yep.  Well of course there is a whole spectrum.  Some of us are and 
some are not.  Recently I saw Bevan and his people who are around him 
at a meeting and also I've directly watched and heard him speak within 
the year a couple of times, and yes they evidently are millenarian.  
Millennial-ist.  To the extent that he and they have been the right 
hand of the TM movement all these years and decades, then yes it is.  
Essentially the TM movement and TM has been and is theirs now.  
Certainly TM as a movement is communal at their level and millennial 
from the inside at that level.   If it walks like a duck and quacks 
like one, then... in modern times, TM's a millenarian movement. 



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes  



 Dedicated millenarians -inspired by their intense emotional 
 commitment to goals they view as cosmically important and by their 
 true believer millenarian rhetoric- often seek to assist the divine 
 process of transformation in which they believe they are 
 participating by taking matters into their own hands rather than 
 passively waiting for God to inaugurate His kingdom on earth.  
 Initially, such movements may engage in relatively quiet and largely 
 non-confrontational efforts to withdraw from what they view as the 
 wicked world around them, in order to try to create purer, more 
 communally cohesive groups in preparation for the anticipated 
 millennial kingdom.
 - Lawrence Foster, Journal of the Communal Studies Association 
 vol31:1,2011
 



 
  
  
  
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes 
   are we millennialists?
   
  
  
  This is us?
   Millennial religious and communal movements typically anticipate 
  the imminent and literal end of what they view as a profoundly 
  wicked, corrupt existing world order and its replacement by a 
  glorious new heaven and new earth, in which the first shall be 
  last and the last first,   Describing millennial groups this way 
  implies that they must be inherently revolutionary in their 
  underlying goals and their impact upon the larger social order that 
  they criticize so harshly
  
   
   
   Describing millennial movements in this way implies that they must be 
   inherently revolutionary...
   ...This article will argue, instead, that the complex trajectories of 
   millennial movements may lead them to two quite different 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Treat Ron Paul with Extreme Caution

2011-08-27 Thread raunchydog

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 5 Reasons Progressives Should Treat Ron Paul with Extreme Caution --
 'Cuddly' Libertarian Has Some Very Dark Politics
 
 He's anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-black, anti-senior-citizen, anti-equality
 and anti-education, and that's just the start. 
 
 August 26, 2011 | 
 
 Description:
 http://images.alternet.org/images/managed/blogteaser_ronpaulrevolution.jpg_3
 10x220
 

Like said...Ron Paul is Ayn Rand in drag.

The Tea Party, The Greedy Rich and Ayn Rand--Parasites, Lice and Moochers
http://tinyurl.com/3o6rl5d



[FairfieldLife] Re: Treat Ron Paul with Extreme Caution

2011-08-27 Thread raunchydog
Like said...Ron Paul is Ayn Rand in drag.

The Tea Party, The Greedy Rich and Ayn Rand--Parasites, Lice and Moochers
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Tea-Party-The-Greedy-by-JON-LARSEN-110423-710.html

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 5 Reasons Progressives Should Treat Ron Paul with Extreme Caution --
 'Cuddly' Libertarian Has Some Very Dark Politics
 
 He's anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-black, anti-senior-citizen, anti-equality
 and anti-education, and that's just the start. 
 
 August 26, 2011 | 
 
 Description:
 http://images.alternet.org/images/managed/blogteaser_ronpaulrevolution.jpg_3
 10x220
 
 There are few things as maddening in a maddening political season as the
 warm and fuzzy feelings some progressives evince for Rep. Ron Paul of Texas,
 the Republican presidential candidate. The anti-war Republican, people
 say, as if that's good enough.
 
 But Ron Paul is much, much more than that. He's the anti-Civil-Rights-Act
 Republican. He's an anti-reproductive-rights Republican. He's a
 gay-demonizing Republican. He's an anti-public education Republican and an
 anti-Social Security Republican. He's the John Birch Society's favorite
 congressman. And he's a booster of the Constitution Party, which has a
 Christian Reconstructionist platform. So, if you're a member of the
 anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-black, anti-senior-citizen, anti-equality,
 anti-education, pro-communist-witch-hunt wing of the progressive movement, I
 can see how he'd be your guy.
 
 Paul first drew the attention of progressives with his vocal opposition to
 the invasion of Iraq. Coupled with the Texan's famous call to end the
 Federal Reserve,  that somehow rendered him, in the eyes of the
 single-minded, the GOP's very own Dennis Kucinich. Throw in Paul's
 opposition to the drug war and his belief that marriage rights should be
 determined by the states, and Paul seemed suitable enough to an emotionally
 immature segment of the progressive movement, a wing populated by people
 with privilege adequate enough to insulate them from the nasty bits of the
 Paul agenda. (Tough on you blacks! And you, women! And you, queers! And you,
 old people without money.)
 
 Ron Paul's anti-war stance, you see, comes not from a cry for peace, but
 from the deeply held isolationism of the far right. Some may say that, when
 it comes to ending the slaughter of innocents, the ends justify the means.
 But, in the case of Ron Paul, the ends involve trading the rights and
 security of a great many Americans for the promise of non-intervention.
 
 Here's a list -- by no means comprehensive -- of Ron Paul positions and
 associates that should explain, once and for all, why no self-respecting
 progressive could possibly sidle up to Paul.
 
 1) Ron Paul on Race
 
 Based on his religious adherence to his purportedly libertarian principles,
 Ron Paul opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Unlike his son, Sen. Rand Paul,
 R-Ky., Ron Paul has not even tried to walk back from this position. In fact,
 he wears it proudly. Here's an excerpt
 http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul188.html  from Ron Paul's 2004 floor
 speech about the Civil Rights Act, in which he explains why he voted against
 a House resolution honoring the 40th anniversary of the law:
 
 The Civil Rights Act of 1964 not only violated the Constitution and reduced
 individual liberty; it also failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting
 racial harmony and a color-blind society. Federal bureaucrats and judges
 cannot read minds to see if actions are motivated by racism. Therefore, the
 only way the federal government could ensure an employer was not violating
 the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was to ensure that the racial composition of a
 business's workforce matched the racial composition of a bureaucrat or
 judge's defined body of potential employees. Thus, bureaucrats began forcing
 employers to hire by racial quota. Racial quotas have not contributed to
 racial harmony or advanced the goal of a color-blind society. Instead, these
 quotas encouraged racial balkanization, and fostered racial strife. 
 
 He also said this
 http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/533817/ron_pauls_libertarian_newsl
 etters_revealed_pg4.html?cat=9 : [T]he forced integration dictated by the
 Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing
 individual liberty.
 
 Ron Paul also occasionally appears at events sponsored by the John Birch
 Society, the segregationist right-wing organization that is closely aligned
 with the Christian Reconstructionist wing of the religious right.
 
 In 2008, James Kirchick brought to light in the pages of the New Republic a
 number of newsletters with Paul's name in the title -- Ron Paul's Freedom
 Report, Ron Paul Political Report, The Ron Paul Survival Report, and The Ron
 Paul Investment Letter -- that contained baldly racist material, which Paul
 denied writing.
 
 At NewsOne, Casey Gane-McCalla reported
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Revolutionary Transcendental Meditation

2011-08-27 Thread Buck
Before considering these important questions, a working definition of 
polictical revolution first is necessary.  The definition of political 
revolution used in this article is drawn primarily from Crane Brinton's classic 
comparative study, Anatomy of Revolutions...  

Brinton argues that for such an overthrow or attempted overthrow to be 
considered revolutionary the leaders of the movement must also seek to 
initiate major changes in the structure of government (as opposed to simply who 
is running it), as well as in economic life, social relationships, and 
ideological or religious beliefs.

When do Millennial Religious Movements become Politically Revolutionary?  - 
Lawrence Foster


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 Evidently it's true, that (Maharishi)
 
  [Noyes] with (Transcendental Meditation) evidently ably utilized the wide 
 range of social and financial connections at his disposal to create a 
 millennial group that skillfully pursued its objectives with in American 
 society for more than three (five) decades.  ... might appear as extreme at 
 first sight, the group is actually a remarkable example of how a millennial 
 group can successfully develop its own distinctive identity, while avoiding 
 destructive confrontation with larger society.
 -When do Millennial Religious Movements Become Revolutionary?:   - Lawrence 
 Foster
 (Communal Studies Association vol 31,1 2011)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  This is us?
  
  This is us?
  Millennial religious and communal movements typically anticipate 
  the
  imminent and literal end of what they view as a profoundly wicked, corrupt
  existing world order and its replacement by a glorious new heaven and new
  earth, in which the first shall be last and the last first,  Describing
  millennial groups this way implies that they must be inherently 
  revolutionary
  in their underlying goals and their impact upon the larger social order that
  they criticize so harshly
 
  
  
   Describing millennial movements in this way implies that they must be
  inherently revolutionary...
   ...This article will argue, instead, that the complex trajectories of
  millennial movements may lead them to two quite different directions -either
  toward increasing accommodation with the larger society, on the one hand, or
  toward escalating conflict and confrontation that typically results in the
  group's dispersal or violent suppression by political power holders, on the
  other.
  
  
  -When do Millennial Religious Movements Become Revolutionary?:   - 
  Lawrence Foster
  (Communal Studies Association vol 31,1 2011)
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  
   Choose your millenarian end-of-days and descent of Heaven on Earth.  
   However, surveying the 60 years of Maharishi and TM in the West or even 
   just the 4 decades of TM in Iowa the TM movement as a millenarian 
   movement has tried everything and has both accommodated the larger 
   culture, been suppressed some, and even dispersed.  And it has changed 
   the larger culture some too. Evidently was revolutionary in its time too.
   

 
 Yep.  Well of course there is a whole spectrum.  Some of us are and 
 some are not.  Recently I saw Bevan and his people who are around him 
 at a meeting and also I've directly watched and heard him speak 
 within the year a couple of times, and yes they evidently are 
 millenarian.  Millennial-ist.  To the extent that he and they have 
 been the right hand of the TM movement all these years and decades, 
 then yes it is.  Essentially the TM movement and TM has been and is 
 theirs now.  Certainly TM as a movement is communal at their level 
 and millennial from the inside at that level.   If it walks like a 
 duck and quacks like one, then... in modern times, TM's a millenarian 
 movement. 
 
 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes  
 
 
 
  Dedicated millenarians -inspired by their intense emotional 
  commitment to goals they view as cosmically important and by their 
  true believer millenarian rhetoric- often seek to assist the 
  divine process of transformation in which they believe they are 
  participating by taking matters into their own hands rather than 
  passively waiting for God to inaugurate His kingdom on earth.  
  Initially, such movements may engage in relatively quiet and 
  largely non-confrontational efforts to withdraw from what they view 
  as the wicked world around them, in order to try to create purer, 
  more communally cohesive groups in preparation for the anticipated 
  millennial kingdom.
  - Lawrence Foster, Journal of the Communal Studies Association 
  vol31:1,2011
  
 
 
 
  
   
   
   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha and Mother Divine turn Irene from DC

2011-08-27 Thread Buck
Card, not a kidding aside here I feel that you are on to something with this.  
It's all very brahmaanaic.  Thanks for the insight,   

-Buck in FF


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:

 
 Because Yogic Flying obviusly is based on the same brahman*-
 force that causes the expansion of the universe to accelerate,
 I gather levitons, antiparticles of hypothetical gravitons,
 the force carriers of the pulling component (Shiva) of Brahma(n),
 are to blame. 
 
 Perhaps YF causes some kind of concentration, or whatever,
 of levitons, that might annihiliate or at least diminish
 the force of hurricanes, and stuff... .
 
 * The verbal root of 'brahma(n)' and 'brahmaa' (The Creator),of 
 course, is bRh:
 
   bRh 2 or %{bRMh} cl. 1. P. (Dha1tup. xvii , 85) %{bRMhati} (also 
 %{-te} S3Br. and %{bRhati} AV. ; pf. %{babarha} AV. ; A. p. %{babRhANa4} RV.) 
 , to be thick , grow great or strong , increase (the finite verb only with a 
 prep.): Caus. %{bRMhayati} , %{-te} (also written %{vR-}) , to make big or 
 fat or strong , increase , ***expand*** , further , promote MBh. Katha1s. 
 Pur. Sus3r. ; 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  You following the radar images?  Amazing how powerful the protection of the 
  TM-siddhi program really is. I sense there is an affinity between TM and 
  the DC area.  We've been there a lot.  It seems to work so really well.
  
  -Buck in FF
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
  
   Lena Horne - Stormy Weather (1943) 
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCG3kJtQBKo
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-27 Thread Ravi Yogi


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  
  You already know it Curtis, I always have a single pointed agenda, all the 
  word play is just a mask. I'm not here to indulge in foreplays for yours or 
  anyone else's intellectual hard-ons.
 
 You have made it clear repeatedly that you are above it all.  Unfortunately I 
 don't share that view of your posts so I'm gunna hold you accountable for any 
 bullshit that includes my name. 
 
 

Well I have been forthright about my bullshit, I indulge in brazenly outrageous 
BS to deal with your and others BS. Mine's obvious, others's not so much.


 
 
 
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:

 -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:

 Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born
  out of a fling with the whore (intellect). The pain, suffering,
  consistent message of this bastard child is always attractive to the
  likes of pain projecting liberals like you.
 

 Why would you use the term projection while doing just that?

 I am not a Buddhist.  I not a pain projecting liberal, whatever that
means.

 Weird game Ravi.  Weird game.


Does my brazenly outrageous weird game given you any hint about the
weird game you play?
   
   
   So you thought going cryptic would get you off the hook for misstating my 
   beliefs?
   
   You are welcome to make a case that I am playing a weird game.  You 
   aren't making it by making false statements and then doubling down when 
   called on them.
   
   I am playing no game here.  I am trying to express my beliefs and invite 
   others to express theirs.  I prefer when they employ accuracy and respect 
   for the most basic  facts.  Your incoherence just means you are not on 
   board with having an upfront discussion. Your choice.
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha and Mother Divine turn Irene from DC

2011-08-27 Thread seventhray1

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:

  Interesting. Where are the maps you see this ?

 Just close your eyes Nabby. There you go.
 
And when we close our eyes, naturally we feel some quiet, some silence,
yes?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Revolutionary Transcendental Meditation

2011-08-27 Thread Buck
Similarly, the potentially disruptive activities of millennial religious or 
communal movements (which in Hagopian's framework are classed as revolts) 
also may develop in revolutionary or non-revolutionary directions, 
depending upon their goals and on the context within which their protest 
develops.

When do Millennial Religious Movements become Politically Revolutionary? -
 (Communal Studies Association vol 31,1 2011) 
Lawrence Foster 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 Before considering these important questions, a working definition of 
 polictical revolution first is necessary.  The definition of political 
 revolution used in this article is drawn primarily from Crane Brinton's 
 classic comparative study, Anatomy of Revolutions...  
 
 Brinton argues that for such an overthrow or attempted overthrow to be 
 considered revolutionary the leaders of the movement must also seek to 
 initiate major changes in the structure of government (as opposed to simply 
 who is running it), as well as in economic life, social relationships, and 
 ideological or religious beliefs.
 
 When do Millennial Religious Movements become Politically Revolutionary?  - 
 Lawrence Foster
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  Evidently it's true, that (Maharishi)
  
   [Noyes] with (Transcendental Meditation) evidently ably utilized the wide 
  range of social and financial connections at his disposal to create a 
  millennial group that skillfully pursued its objectives with in American 
  society for more than three (five) decades.  ... might appear as extreme 
  at first sight, the group is actually a remarkable example of how a 
  millennial group can successfully develop its own distinctive identity, 
  while avoiding destructive confrontation with larger society.
  -When do Millennial Religious Movements Become Revolutionary?:   - 
  Lawrence Foster
  (Communal Studies Association vol 31,1 2011)
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  
   This is us?
   
   This is us?
   Millennial religious and communal movements typically anticipate 
   the
   imminent and literal end of what they view as a profoundly wicked, corrupt
   existing world order and its replacement by a glorious new heaven and new
   earth, in which the first shall be last and the last first,  Describing
   millennial groups this way implies that they must be inherently 
   revolutionary
   in their underlying goals and their impact upon the larger social order 
   that
   they criticize so harshly
  
   
   
Describing millennial movements in this way implies that they must be
   inherently revolutionary...
...This article will argue, instead, that the complex trajectories of
   millennial movements may lead them to two quite different directions 
   -either
   toward increasing accommodation with the larger society, on the one hand, 
   or
   toward escalating conflict and confrontation that typically results in the
   group's dispersal or violent suppression by political power holders, on 
   the
   other.
   
   
   -When do Millennial Religious Movements Become Revolutionary?:   - 
   Lawrence Foster
   (Communal Studies Association vol 31,1 2011)
   
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
   
Choose your millenarian end-of-days and descent of Heaven on Earth.  
However, surveying the 60 years of Maharishi and TM in the West or even 
just the 4 decades of TM in Iowa the TM movement as a millenarian 
movement has tried everything and has both accommodated the larger 
culture, been suppressed some, and even dispersed.  And it has changed 
the larger culture some too. Evidently was revolutionary in its time 
too.

 
  
  Yep.  Well of course there is a whole spectrum.  Some of us are and 
  some are not.  Recently I saw Bevan and his people who are around 
  him at a meeting and also I've directly watched and heard him speak 
  within the year a couple of times, and yes they evidently are 
  millenarian.  Millennial-ist.  To the extent that he and they have 
  been the right hand of the TM movement all these years and decades, 
  then yes it is.  Essentially the TM movement and TM has been and is 
  theirs now.  Certainly TM as a movement is communal at their level 
  and millennial from the inside at that level.   If it walks like a 
  duck and quacks like one, then... in modern times, TM's a 
  millenarian movement. 
  
  
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes  
  
  
  
   Dedicated millenarians -inspired by their intense emotional 
   commitment to goals they view as cosmically important and by 
   their true believer millenarian rhetoric- often seek to assist 
   the divine process of transformation in which they believe they 
   are 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha and Mother Divine turn Irene from DC

2011-08-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
 
   Interesting. Where are the maps you see this ?
 
  Just close your eyes Nabby. There you go.
  
 And when we close our eyes, naturally we feel some quiet, some silence,
 yes?

And then when you feel all floaty, just make some shit up!

Feels good, yes?








[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
  
   
   You already know it Curtis, I always have a single pointed agenda, all 
   the word play is just a mask. I'm not here to indulge in foreplays for 
   yours or anyone else's intellectual hard-ons.
  
  You have made it clear repeatedly that you are above it all.  Unfortunately 
  I don't share that view of your posts so I'm gunna hold you accountable for 
  any bullshit that includes my name. 
  
  
 
 Well I have been forthright about my bullshit, I indulge in brazenly 
 outrageous BS to deal with your and others BS. Mine's obvious, others's not 
 so much.


Yeah, that strategy is working really well for Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman 
too.

Burble nonsense.

Get called on nonsense.

Double down on nonsense.




 
 
  
  
  
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born
   out of a fling with the whore (intellect). The pain, suffering,
   consistent message of this bastard child is always attractive to 
   the
   likes of pain projecting liberals like you.
  
 
  Why would you use the term projection while doing just that?
 
  I am not a Buddhist.  I not a pain projecting liberal, whatever that
 means.
 
  Weird game Ravi.  Weird game.
 
 
 Does my brazenly outrageous weird game given you any hint about the
 weird game you play?


So you thought going cryptic would get you off the hook for misstating 
my beliefs?

You are welcome to make a case that I am playing a weird game.  You 
aren't making it by making false statements and then doubling down when 
called on them.

I am playing no game here.  I am trying to express my beliefs and 
invite others to express theirs.  I prefer when they employ accuracy 
and respect for the most basic  facts.  Your incoherence just means you 
are not on board with having an upfront discussion. Your choice.
   
  
 





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[FairfieldLife] #5# Think About This: Are you happy?

2011-08-27 Thread Paulo Barbosa
Think About This...

Know ye that the LORD he is God: it is he that hath made us,
and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture.

I was created by God and belong to Him. I am very happy... and you?


Paulo Barbosa


[FairfieldLife] Re: Revolutionary Transcendental Meditation

2011-08-27 Thread Buck


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 Similarly, the potentially disruptive activities of millennial religious or 
 communal movements (which in Hagopian's framework are classed as revolts) 
 also may develop in revolutionary or non-revolutionary directions, 
 depending upon their goals and on the context within which their protest 
 develops.
 
 When do Millennial Religious Movements become Politically Revolutionary? -
  (Communal Studies Association vol 31,1 2011) 
 Lawrence Foster 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  Before considering these important questions, a working definition of 
  polictical revolution first is necessary.  The definition of political 
  revolution used in this article is drawn primarily from Crane Brinton's 
  classic comparative study, Anatomy of Revolutions...  
  
  Brinton argues that for such an overthrow or attempted overthrow to be 
  considered revolutionary the leaders of the movement must also seek to 
  initiate major changes in the structure of government (as opposed to simply 
  who is running it), as well as in economic life, social relationships, and 
  ideological or religious beliefs.
  
  When do Millennial Religious Movements become Politically Revolutionary?  
  - Lawrence Foster
  
  

Well, and that said, then it's Revolutionary Maharishi Transcendental 
Meditation.

Seems that Maharishi was one of the revolutionaries of the late 20th Century 
and of the early 21st Century.  Certainly not the only one but one of them.

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  
   Evidently it's true, that (Maharishi)
   
[Noyes] with (Transcendental Meditation) evidently ably utilized the 
   wide range of social and financial connections at his disposal to create 
   a millennial group that skillfully pursued its objectives with in 
   American society for more than three (five) decades.  ... might appear 
   as extreme at first sight, the group is actually a remarkable example of 
   how a millennial group can successfully develop its own distinctive 
   identity, while avoiding destructive confrontation with larger society.
   -When do Millennial Religious Movements Become Revolutionary?:   - 
   Lawrence Foster
   (Communal Studies Association vol 31,1 2011)
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
   
This is us?

This is us?
Millennial religious and communal movements typically 
anticipate the
imminent and literal end of what they view as a profoundly wicked, 
corrupt
existing world order and its replacement by a glorious new heaven and 
new
earth, in which the first shall be last and the last first,  
Describing
millennial groups this way implies that they must be inherently 
revolutionary
in their underlying goals and their impact upon the larger social order 
that
they criticize so harshly
   


 Describing millennial movements in this way implies that they must be
inherently revolutionary...
 ...This article will argue, instead, that the complex trajectories of
millennial movements may lead them to two quite different directions 
-either
toward increasing accommodation with the larger society, on the one 
hand, or
toward escalating conflict and confrontation that typically results in 
the
group's dispersal or violent suppression by political power holders, on 
the
other.


-When do Millennial Religious Movements Become Revolutionary?:   - 
Lawrence Foster
(Communal Studies Association vol 31,1 2011)



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:

 Choose your millenarian end-of-days and descent of Heaven on Earth.  
 However, surveying the 60 years of Maharishi and TM in the West or 
 even just the 4 decades of TM in Iowa the TM movement as a 
 millenarian movement has tried everything and has both accommodated 
 the larger culture, been suppressed some, and even dispersed.  And it 
 has changed the larger culture some too. Evidently was revolutionary 
 in its time too.
 
  
   
   Yep.  Well of course there is a whole spectrum.  Some of us are 
   and some are not.  Recently I saw Bevan and his people who are 
   around him at a meeting and also I've directly watched and heard 
   him speak within the year a couple of times, and yes they 
   evidently are millenarian.  Millennial-ist.  To the extent that 
   he and they have been the right hand of the TM movement all these 
   years and decades, then yes it is.  Essentially the TM movement 
   and TM has been and is theirs now.  Certainly TM as a movement is 
   communal at their level and millennial from the inside at that 
   level.   If it walks like a duck and quacks like one, then... in 
   modern 

[FairfieldLife] Re: #5# Think About This: Are you happy?

2011-08-27 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paulo Barbosa tprobert@... wrote:

 Think About This...
 
 Know ye that the LORD he is God: it is he that hath made us,
 and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture.
 
 I was created by God and belong to Him. I am very happy... and you?

 
* * Are you happy, too?
Then there's a pair of us -- don't tell!
They'd b-nish us, you know.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Cripple Creek

2011-08-27 Thread whynotnow7
That got me thinking about that first time something decided to eat something 
else, that also moved: The grass IS greener on the other side of the fence, its 
called *Steak*!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  Yes, we appear to be creatures who habitually create patterns from the 
  inward and outward perception of our six senses, with storage facilities 
  for those perceptions, allowing for imagination and reflection, in order to 
  grow the patterns in complexity, which we can then mirror in our physical 
  environment. I can only conclude we do this for fun, with the granularity 
  of our creation offering endless possibilities for perception, reflection, 
  imagination, and expression, vs. dwelling simply in universal pure 
  potential. 
 
 
 I'm pretty sure we have this skill because any ancestor who lacked it got 
 eaten by something bigger.
 
 
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
  
   * * Yeah, especially when it comes to the siddhis. But in all honesty, I 
   probably just made this story up, because my mind does love creating 
   patterns out of chaos.
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
   
...subtlety is always a virtue :-0)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:

 * * Feel it? Hell, doubtless I caused it when I asked my wife Rena to 
 -- well, let's just say it was not unlike Curtis's rock me! 
 earthquake siddhi-experience, but delicacy forbids me to go into the 
 details :-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ 
 wrote:
 
  Perhaps you are feeling the influence of Hurricane Irene (Irene = 
  peace), Rory!:-)
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ 
   wrote:
   
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote:

 Cripple Creek, CO; 1890, Departure of Stagecoach:
 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/47453.jpg


One of my very favorite places on Earth.  Great saloon, great 
ice cream
parlor.  Regrettably, the place is contaminated with all sorts 
of sulfates
and nasty metals like arsenic.  Great times in the Summer.

Now Rory, RC and Ravi should be one the stage.  The one leaving 
for Cheyenne
in an hour.
   
   * * I knew you'd take a Cheyenne to us once you got to know us, 
   Tom. And you're quite right, when we're Home, be it ever so 
   humble, there is no where but now here, ever only the one stage. 
   ISness is our business. 
   
   But you know Why Homing requires eight stages, wheels a-spinning, 
   steeds a-grinning from Here to Here, right? (Idaho, but Kali 
   Fornia does; Alaska.)
   
   We are... climbing... Jacob's ... ladder; ... ev'ry ... round 
   goes ... higher, ... higher! 
   
   Yama to Niyama, Shakti to Shiva, Doing to Nondoing.
   
   Feet and ...  Base and ... Sex and ... Navel, ... Heart and ... 
   Throat and ... Brow and ... Crow-hown!
   
   And mounting laboriously from Yama to Asana to Pranayam to 
   Pratyahara, to Dharana to Dhyana to Samdhi to Niyama, we come 
   Home where we have always and all ways been, here and now, in the 
   radiantly Cheyenning secret Sacred Heart amidst the nine. The one 
   stage IS Now, ever has been, and always shall be, whirled without 
   end, Amen.
  
 

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: #5# Think About This: Are you happy?

2011-08-27 Thread whynotnow7
I thought the rhyme went, Here is the church, and here is the steeple, with a 
T, not an H.:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paulo Barbosa tprobert@ wrote:
 
  Think About This...
  
  Know ye that the LORD he is God: it is he that hath made us,
  and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture.
  
  I was created by God and belong to Him. I am very happy... and you?
 
  
 * * Are you happy, too?
 Then there's a pair of us -- don't tell!
 They'd b-nish us, you know.





[FairfieldLife] Re: #5# Think About This: Are you happy?

2011-08-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
If you mean the God  Poseidon, we are not on very good terms today due to the 
storm he is flinging on us.  The wind God Vayu is being a bit of a dick as well 
today.

This isn't the greatest PR day for God ideas.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paulo Barbosa tprobert@... wrote:

 Think About This...
 
 Know ye that the LORD he is God: it is he that hath made us,
 and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture.
 
 I was created by God and belong to Him. I am very happy... and you?
 
 
 Paulo Barbosa





[FairfieldLife] Re: Just learned...

2011-08-27 Thread Ravi Yogi


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
   

You already know it Curtis, I always have a single pointed agenda, all 
the word play is just a mask. I'm not here to indulge in foreplays for 
yours or anyone else's intellectual hard-ons.
   
   You have made it clear repeatedly that you are above it all.  
   Unfortunately I don't share that view of your posts so I'm gunna hold you 
   accountable for any bullshit that includes my name. 
   
   
  
  Well I have been forthright about my bullshit, I indulge in brazenly 
  outrageous BS to deal with your and others BS. Mine's obvious, others's not 
  so much.
 
 
 Yeah, that strategy is working really well for Sarah Palin and Michelle 
 Bachman too.
 
 Burble nonsense.
 
 Get called on nonsense.
 
 Double down on nonsense.
 

I'm sorry you are having so much trouble with the concept of Epshittamology. It 
would be useful to review the definition of Epshittamology from Dr. Ravi Yogi, 
Psy. D, UC Berekeley's ground breaking research.

So as to not startle others around you, repeat softly and gently after me - 
epshittamology is the indulgence and open admission of brazenly outrageous 
bullshit to counter others bullshit.

Now Sarah and Michelle would never admit they are full of nonsense or bullshit 
would they Curtis? They really believe it, really believe it LIKE YOU !!!







 
 
 
  
  
   
   
   
   


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
  
   Buddhism is just Hindu's bastard child, more of a child born
out of a fling with the whore (intellect). The pain, suffering,
consistent message of this bastard child is always attractive 
to the
likes of pain projecting liberals like you.
   
  
   Why would you use the term projection while doing just that?
  
   I am not a Buddhist.  I not a pain projecting liberal, whatever 
   that
  means.
  
   Weird game Ravi.  Weird game.
  
  
  Does my brazenly outrageous weird game given you any hint about the
  weird game you play?
 
 
 So you thought going cryptic would get you off the hook for 
 misstating my beliefs?
 
 You are welcome to make a case that I am playing a weird game.  You 
 aren't making it by making false statements and then doubling down 
 when called on them.
 
 I am playing no game here.  I am trying to express my beliefs and 
 invite others to express theirs.  I prefer when they employ accuracy 
 and respect for the most basic  facts.  Your incoherence just means 
 you are not on board with having an upfront discussion. Your choice.

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: #5# Think About This: Are you happy?

2011-08-27 Thread RoryGoff
* * I herd otherwise :-)
 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 I thought the rhyme went, Here is the church, and here is the steeple, with 
 a T, not an H.:-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paulo Barbosa tprobert@ wrote:
  
   Think About This...
   
   Know ye that the LORD he is God: it is he that hath made us,
   and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture.
   
   I was created by God and belong to Him. I am very happy... and you?
  
   
  * * Are you happy, too?
  Then there's a pair of us -- don't tell!
  They'd b-nish us, you know.
 





[FairfieldLife] Dawkins Destroys Perry on Evolution

2011-08-27 Thread Rick Archer
Dawkins Destroys Perry on Evolution

We all know Rick Perry is full of it with his anti-science beliefs. But a
smackdown from Richard Dawkins on the subject of said beliefs has a
particularly satisfying highbrow but low-blow quality to it. He delivered
such a Smackdown to Perry in the course of a Q and A in the Washington
Post's On Faith column.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-faith/post/attention-governor-perry-
evolution-is-a-fact/2011/08/23/gIQAuIFUYJ_blog.html 

Dawkins said that while a candidate's views on evolution are not paramount,
they're indicative of his or her ability to understand science and general
levels of educational literacy. He also had harsh words for the valuation of
ignorance among the Republican electorate.

Here are some choice excerpts:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-faith/post/attention-governor-perry-
evolution-is-a-fact/2011/08/23/gIQAuIFUYJ_blog.html 

There is nothing unusual about Governor Rick Perry. Uneducated fools can be
found in every country and every period of history, and they are not unknown
in high office. What is unusual about today's Republican party (I disavow
the ridiculous 'GOP' nickname, because the party of Lincoln and Theodore
Roosevelt has lately forfeited all claim to be considered 'grand') is this:
In any other party and in any other country, an individual may occasionally
rise to the top in spite of being an uneducated ignoramus. In today's
Republican Party 'in spite of' is not the phrase we need. Ignorance and lack
of education are positive qualifications, bordering on obligatory.
Intellect, knowledge and linguistic mastery are mistrusted by Republican
voters, who, when choosing a president, would apparently prefer someone like
themselves over someone actually qualified for the job. 

***

A politician's attitude to evolution is perhaps not directly important in
itself. It can have unfortunate consequences on education and science policy
but, compared to Perry's and the Tea Party's pronouncements on other topics
such as economics, taxation, history and sexual politics, their ignorance of
evolutionary science might be overlooked. Except that a politician's
attitude to evolution, however peripheral it might seem, is a surprisingly
apposite litmus test of more general inadequacy. This is because unlike,
say, string theory where scientific opinion is genuinely divided, there is
about the fact of evolution no doubt at all. Evolution is a fact, as
securely established as any in science, and he who denies it betrays woeful
ignorance and lack of education, which likely extends to other fields as
well. Evolution is not some recondite backwater of science, ignorance of
which would be pardonable. It is the stunningly simple but elegant
explanation of our very existence and the existence of every living creature
on the planet. Thanks to Darwin, we now understand why we are here and why
we are the way we are. You cannot be ignorant of evolution and be a
cultivated and adequate citizen of today.

I'd love to see Dawkins debate Perry on live TV, wouldn't you?

 



[FairfieldLife] 'Dr. King Weeps From His Grave'

2011-08-27 Thread Robert


 

THE Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial was to be dedicated on the National Mall on 
Sunday — exactly 56 years after the murder of Emmett Till in Mississippi and 48 
years after the historic March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom. (Because of 
Hurricane Irene, the ceremony has been postponed.) 
These events constitute major milestones in the turbulent history of race and 
democracy in America, and the undeniable success of the civil rights movement — 
culminating in the election of Barack Obama in 2008 — warrants our attention 
and elation. Yet the prophetic words of Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel still 
haunt us: “The whole future of America depends on the impact and influence of 
Dr. King.” 
Rabbi Heschel spoke those words during the last years of King’s life, when 72 
percent of whites and 55 percent of blacks disapproved of King’s opposition to 
the Vietnam War and his efforts to eradicate poverty in America. King’s dream 
of a more democratic America had become, in his words, “a nightmare,” owing to 
the persistence of “racism, poverty, militarism and materialism.” He called 
America a “sick society.” On the Sunday after his assassination, in 1968, he 
was to have preached a sermon titled “Why America May Go to Hell.” 
King did not think that America ought to go to hell, but rather that it might 
go to hell owing to its economic injustice, cultural decay and political 
paralysis. He was not an American Gibbon, chronicling the decline and fall of 
the American empire, but a courageous and visionary Christian blues man, 
fighting with style and love in the face of the four catastrophes he 
identified. 
Militarism is an imperial catastrophe that has produced a military-industrial 
complex and national security state and warped the country’s priorities and 
stature (as with the immoral drones, dropping bombs on innocent civilians). 
Materialism is a spiritual catastrophe, promoted by a corporate media multiplex 
and a culture industry that have hardened the hearts of hard-core consumers and 
coarsened the consciences of would-be citizens. Clever gimmicks of mass 
distraction yield a cheap soulcraft of addicted and self-medicated narcissists. 
Racism is a moral catastrophe, most graphically seen in the prison industrial 
complex and targeted police surveillance in black and brown ghettos rendered 
invisible in public discourse. Arbitrary uses of the law — in the name of the 
“war” on drugs — have produced, in the legal scholar Michelle Alexander’s apt 
phrase, a new Jim Crow of mass incarceration. And poverty is an economic 
catastrophe, inseparable from the power of greedy oligarchs and avaricious 
plutocrats indifferent to the misery of poor children, elderly citizens and 
working people. 
The age of Obama has fallen tragically short of fulfilling King’s prophetic 
legacy. Instead of articulating a radical democratic vision and fighting for 
homeowners, workers and poor people in the form of mortgage relief, jobs and 
investment in education, infrastructure and housing, the administration gave us 
bailouts for banks, record profits for Wall Street and giant budget cuts on the 
backs of the vulnerable. 
As the talk show host Tavis Smiley and I have said in our national tour against 
poverty, the recent budget deal is only the latest phase of a 30-year, 
top-down, one-sided war against the poor and working people in the name of a 
morally bankrupt policy of deregulating markets, lowering taxes and cutting 
spending for those already socially neglected and economically abandoned. Our 
two main political parties, each beholden to big money, offer merely 
alternative versions of oligarchic rule. 
The absence of a King-worthy narrative to reinvigorate poor and working people 
has enabled right-wing populists to seize the moment with credible claims about 
government corruption and ridiculous claims about tax cuts’ stimulating growth. 
This right-wing threat is a catastrophic response to King’s four catastrophes; 
its agenda would lead to hellish conditions for most Americans. 
King weeps from his grave. He never confused substance with symbolism. He never 
conflated a flesh and blood sacrifice with a stone and mortar edifice. We 
rightly celebrate his substance and sacrifice because he loved us all so 
deeply. Let us not remain satisfied with symbolism because we too often fear 
the challenge he embraced. Our greatest writer, Herman Melville, who spent his 
life in love with America even as he was our most fierce critic of the myth of 
American exceptionalism, noted, “Truth uncompromisingly told will always have 
its ragged edges; hence the conclusion of such a narration is apt to be less 
finished than an architectural finial.” 
King’s response to our crisis can be put in one word: revolution. A revolution 
in our priorities, a re-evaluation of our values, a reinvigoration of our 
public life and a fundamental transformation of our way of thinking and living 
that promotes a transfer of power from oligarchs