Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[Emily Reyn]

Ha ha...Jefferson Airplane.  Brings back memories of my first year in college 
high on hallucinogens up on the snow fields above Boulder, CO, communing with 
the oneness of nature and in particular, the trees.  Sliding down the snow 
fields to a big bonfire waiting for it all to wear off.  No wonder I flunked 
math that semester - couldn't find a single reason to attend class.  Thank 
goodness it did wear off :)



 From: obbajeeba 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 8:16 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
 

  
Beautiful. 
Welcome back, Emily.

You give such a kind way to botox the turq's value up. 
Tendering his heart is what is needed for him to see not all women carry a 
whiny tone as he interpreted. If only he could here the voice, he would feel so 
much different in what he reads. The non squeaky, clear as a bell sooth, he 
misses in his extraction of meanings from the words typed, like 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcWZV-FHB2U
or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZPmZ64m3_4   or 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Ckee7rabM
or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0
Turq just has the wrong tone in his musical ear when he reads the typed words 
from the babes of FFL.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Barry, here is my heartfelt and light response to several of your recent 
> posts.  Yes, I included a "funny" for you in video format, although not 
> nearly as "face value" funny as the Kate Winslet clip re: gender perceptions. 
>  Nor as humorous and gentle and as Merudanda's posts.  Mine is focused more 
> on social convention as an art :)
> 
> For context of my post, consider that perhaps some or many FFL participants 
> are giving similar treatment to all members in acknowledging and witnessing 
> their posts as being written by human beings; of participating in a 
> conversation; of expressing and sharing different points of view; of serving 
> as entertainment or provoking thought with regard to the topics discussed; or 
> aiding in understanding the human condition and ourselves better.
> 
> IMO, you misconstrued (and changed the reality) of Obba's email to you by 
> representing it as a "whiny plea for attention from you" and you would also 
> have your readers believe that you were being "compassionate" in your 
> response.  Is that how you were feeling about the "dreck?"  I thought you 
> were angry.  It's O.K. - we all get angry now and again, Barry, and this is 
> now all in the past and the dirty laundry has been aired out..  
> 
> Barry, do you really think that all of us who respond to you, who you don't 
> like, or who you continually put down, are just "looking for attention from 
> you?" And you go even further in assuming this (and I read you here at face 
> value as you seem so intent on making this point): 
> 
> "But *THEY* are so obsessed with me that *they read every 
> word of every one of my posts*. They probably read them 
> multiple times, trying to work up enough faux outrage and
> hatred to fuel a stinging reply. 
> 
> Seems to me that obsession is its own reward. They're 
> trapped in a samskaric cycle that they cannot escape from.
> They're in EXACTLY the position they want *me* to be in,
> but which they cannot achieve. They have to sit there and 
> read every word I write, whether about them, or about 
> anything else.
> 
> As Ravi might say, they're my bitches. :-)
> 
> And they will continue to be as long as they continue
> obsessing on me..."
> 
> You are most definitely not "prescient", IMHO.  Could you have predicted 
> that in Ravi's absence, you would choose to assume this part of his internet 
> character where you now refer to *THEY* that read your posts and respond to 
> you in ways that offend you as obsessed with you and your "bitches?"  So 
> funny, Barry, you must see the humor in this, n'est-ce pas?  I hope you 
> weren't serious.  You just have been presenting in such a depressed manner 
> of late (IMO), I'm not sure anymore.
> 
> Barry, you so undersell yourself herethink better of yourself, man.  In 
> the context you wrote it, why assume that the only reason I might read you, 
> for example, is because I am "obsessing" on you?  Was it meant as a put-down 
> to your readers that don't always agree with you? It says more about your own 
> self-worth.  Maybe I think you may have something to say that could be 
> "interesting," regardless of whether I appreciate all of your posts all the 
> time, and regardless of whether I comment back to you in ways you don't 
> always like. 
> 
> And, this statement below from another of your posts is also truly amazing 
> coming out of your mouth.  Why are you here?  What is the payoff of staying 
> here?  You could easily correspond offline with those people you deem worth 
> reading - why suffer here year after year?  There is a reason, Barry, and I 
> hope y

[FairfieldLife] Re: What A Week

[futur.musik]

his beef stick, your neck chain? I'll drop it if you will. :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Thank you for your concern. Please do not feel sorry for me.
> I think I may have deserved it. Although is was very rude and could have 
> harmed some other type of person for what the Turq had posted, if I was 
> someone else. I actually was jerking his beef stick and I believe he knew it, 
> so he jerked my neck chain a little back. 
> I really do not think he meant harm to me. Takes a little while to break in 
> the green, don't ya know. : )
> 
>  Where I come from, the karma rinses off like water color paints. Like on 
> Holi. 
> 
> Thank you for the compliments of being insightful, sweet and refreshing, 
> those are my middle names!
>  As one Pandit put it, I play with negativity like a tiger plays with a 
> smaller object. 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik"  wrote:
> >
> > What a week on FFL – Robin, your posts as always sing a dynamic tune of 
> > coherent reality. I have read each one enjoyably, happily traveling along 
> > to wherever they lead, knowing that I will never be led astray logically. 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > And Barry, I feel sorry for Obba – she is an insightful, sweet and 
> > refreshing presence here, and what you said to her was cruel, and hateful. 
> > As much as I have openly insulted you, I have been very reluctant to apply 
> > the label sadist to you. Sadism is an incomprehensible psychological 
> > reality for me; that someone could get so far away from the pure flame 
> > within themselves, that they would *relish* hurting someone sweet and 
> > innocent.
> > 
> > This wasn't the garden variety FFL pissing contest, or tit for tat that I 
> > have participated in. This was different, and really ugly. I am not 
> > bringing it up to cast aspersions on you Barry. It goes much deeper than 
> > that. This sickens me and saddens me. 
> > 
> > I must confess that sometimes when I have responded to you, I see in my 
> > mind's eye a small frightened boy, eight or nine years old (?), within you. 
> > I am not making fun of you Barry, and this is not a gleeful perception of 
> > mine. I see your fragility, pain and rejection in that young child, and I 
> > hope you see it and deal with it too, in a healthy and liberating way.
> > 
> > But you haven't yet. Hurting others deliberately who are innocent of 
> > anything other than befriending you as Obba was doing, is a really 
> > sub-human way to act. Your family would be ashamed of you. 
> > 
> > Mean people suck.
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[Emily Reyn]

Oh, well that clears it up.  Emily Dickinson...I want to read her poetry.  
Thank you for reminding me. The way things have been going here, I just wasn't 
sure.  Life is surreal right now.  Thank you Robin.  



 From: maskedzebra 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 7:41 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
 

  
Ah, dear Emily: The Emily referred to at the end of the poem is Emily 
DICKINSON—no other Emily. The cold reptilian creature that 
Emily—Dickinson—wrote about had some relevance for the "zero at the bone" 
sensation that obbajeeba must have experienced when Barry couldn't help himself 
and injected obbajeeba with his mystical venom. As often as I remember you, 
Emily—and I owe you a post—you were not in thoughts whatsoever when it came to 
the obbajeeba episode. Emily Dickinson was describing her experience of a 
snake. See my final paragraph in my last post to the Barry guy. 

Robin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Barry, here is my heartfelt and light response to several of your recent 
> posts.  Yes, I included a "funny" for you in video format, although not 
> nearly as "face value" funny as the Kate Winslet clip re: gender perceptions. 
>  Nor as humorous and gentle and as Merudanda's posts.  Mine is focused more 
> on social convention as an art :)
> 
> For context of my post, consider that perhaps some or many FFL participants 
> are giving similar treatment to all members in acknowledging and witnessing 
> their posts as being written by human beings; of participating in a 
> conversation; of expressing and sharing different points of view; of serving 
> as entertainment or provoking thought with regard to the topics discussed; or 
> aiding in understanding the human condition and ourselves better.
> 
> IMO, you misconstrued (and changed the reality) of Obba's email to you by 
> representing it as a "whiny plea for attention from you" and you would also 
> have your readers believe that you were being "compassionate" in your 
> response.  Is that how you were feeling about the "dreck?"  I thought you 
> were angry.  It's O.K. - we all get angry now and again, Barry, and this is 
> now all in the past and the dirty laundry has been aired out..  
> 
> Barry, do you really think that all of us who respond to you, who you don't 
> like, or who you continually put down, are just "looking for attention from 
> you?" And you go even further in assuming this (and I read you here at face 
> value as you seem so intent on making this point): 
> 
> "But *THEY* are so obsessed with me that *they read every 
> word of every one of my posts*. They probably read them 
> multiple times, trying to work up enough faux outrage and
> hatred to fuel a stinging reply. 
> 
> Seems to me that obsession is its own reward. They're 
> trapped in a samskaric cycle that they cannot escape from.
> They're in EXACTLY the position they want *me* to be in,
> but which they cannot achieve. They have to sit there and 
> read every word I write, whether about them, or about 
> anything else.
> 
> As Ravi might say, they're my bitches. :-)
> 
> And they will continue to be as long as they continue
> obsessing on me..."
> 
> You are most definitely not "prescient", IMHO.  Could you have predicted 
> that in Ravi's absence, you would choose to assume this part of his internet 
> character where you now refer to *THEY* that read your posts and respond to 
> you in ways that offend you as obsessed with you and your "bitches?"  So 
> funny, Barry, you must see the humor in this, n'est-ce pas?  I hope you 
> weren't serious.  You just have been presenting in such a depressed manner 
> of late (IMO), I'm not sure anymore.
> 
> Barry, you so undersell yourself herethink better of yourself, man.  In 
> the context you wrote it, why assume that the only reason I might read you, 
> for example, is because I am "obsessing" on you?  Was it meant as a put-down 
> to your readers that don't always agree with you? It says more about your own 
> self-worth.  Maybe I think you may have something to say that could be 
> "interesting," regardless of whether I appreciate all of your posts all the 
> time, and regardless of whether I comment back to you in ways you don't 
> always like. 
> 
> And, this statement below from another of your posts is also truly amazing 
> coming out of your mouth.  Why are you here?  What is the payoff of staying 
> here?  You could easily correspond offline with those people you deem worth 
> reading - why suffer here year after year?  There is a reason, Barry, and I 
> hope you continue to stay until you figure it out.  Barry, IMHO, you don't 
> see "trends" - how can you when you only look at some of the data? You don't 
> see "the forest through the trees" - how can you when you are so far in the 
> forest yourself on a daily basis?  If you were to decid

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy January 12th

[merudanda]

"the best"? no postal  or editing service necessary. Judy (ourfriend)..
What'd he have to say?
He has been said to have said that it will take the world 400 years to
understand what he was saying- so take your time.


We are organizing yagya on this occasion too. The price of the yagya for
one day is: 391 USD.

Anybody can order it online at: 
http://www.worldofyagyas.com/next-yagya-suggestion


Jai Guru Dev

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik" futur.musik@
wrote:
> >
> > I found myself speaking with him the other evening. Must've
> > been the cognac...;-)
>
> How's he doing? What'd he have to say?
>
> If you talk to him again, please give him our best.
>
> (Well, the best of *some* of us, anyway!)
>
>
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 
wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik" 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A very clear thinker - from this comes a movement which provides
millions with a technique for realization. Happy (belated) Birthday to
Maharishi!
> > > >
> > > > Thank you again for the life changing techniques of TM and TMSP,
and the engineering ability to take this fragile technique and spread it
world wide. Jai Maharishi.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jai Maharishi !
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy January 12th

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
> ..is it not more convenient to be reincarnated into a dog? 
> --easier to recognise the old outworn rag [:D]


All this reminds me of a great sig line used years 
ago on a forum called alt.buddha.short.fat.guy by
a poster who called himself Ned Ludd:

Given the choice between a dog biscuit and a Buddha 
nature, is there any question which a dog would choose?


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote:
> > >
> > > lol
> > > and  you as a dog owner please consider this(really did mean no
> > > disrespect):
> > > Regarding dogs reincarnating. Can a dog come  back in another
> > > life, and will it come back to its current owner?  According
> > > to the website, many pet owners hope this is the case.
> >
> > More important in a way, if a dog reincarnates as
> > another dog and manages to find its way back to
> > the stash of bones it buried in Buddha's time,
> > will it have any more or any less Buddha Nature?
> >
> > Mu. Or woof. Whatever. :-)
> >
> > > Reminds of A.S. King's novel, The Dust of 100 Dogs, [:D] nice read
> > > 
> > >
> > > http://www.thedustof100dogs.com/ 
> > >
> > > which follows  a woman who incarnates 100 times as a dog before
> > > reincarnating as a  woman again in modern times. She remembers her
> > > previous incarnations not  only as a dog, but also as a pirate in
> > > the 1600s who buried her  treasure in the Caribbean. The story
> > > weaves between both womens worlds,  as we wait to see if the
> > > treasure will be found over 400 years later.The Dust of 100 Dogs,
> > > heroine had to wait until she was old enough to travel by herself
> > > to get to the Caribbean, and then get to the spot where she'd
> > > buried the goods.
> >
> > Sounds cool. I'll look for it.
> >
> > > What if you reincarnate into an impoverished part of the world,
> > > and at age five remember, "I've got me a big old hunking wad of
> > > cash in that bank in Gibraltar" how exactly would  you get it?
> >
> > Almost more important, inflation being what it is,
> > when you managed to get your hands on that big old
> > hunking wad of cash, would it buy more than a cup
> > of coffee at Starbucks?
> >
> > Mu. Or woof. Whatever. :-)
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That's hilarious. Great find.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Reincarnation Bank was originally set up for Elliott Trevesk who
> > > > > has now decided to give the banking facility to all believers of
> > > > > reincarnation...
> > > >
> > > > So would the "password check" involve a simple password,
> > > > or would the new reincarnatee need to pick out some item
> > > > of clothing he'd worn in a past life?  :-)
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy January 12th

[merudanda]

..is it not more convenient to be reincarnated into a dog? --easier to
recognise the old outworn rag [:D]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > lol
> > and  you as a dog owner please consider this(really did mean no
> > disrespect):
> > Regarding dogs reincarnating. Can a dog come  back in another
> > life, and will it come back to its current owner?  According
> > to the website, many pet owners hope this is the case.
>
> More important in a way, if a dog reincarnates as
> another dog and manages to find its way back to
> the stash of bones it buried in Buddha's time,
> will it have any more or any less Buddha Nature?
>
> Mu. Or woof. Whatever. :-)
>
> > Reminds of A.S. King's novel, The Dust of 100 Dogs, [:D] nice read
> > 
> >
> > http://www.thedustof100dogs.com/ 
> >
> > which follows  a woman who incarnates 100 times as a dog before
> > reincarnating as a  woman again in modern times. She remembers her
> > previous incarnations not  only as a dog, but also as a pirate in
> > the 1600s who buried her  treasure in the Caribbean. The story
> > weaves between both womens worlds,  as we wait to see if the
> > treasure will be found over 400 years later.The Dust of 100 Dogs,
> > heroine had to wait until she was old enough to travel by herself
> > to get to the Caribbean, and then get to the spot where she'd
> > buried the goods.
>
> Sounds cool. I'll look for it.
>
> > What if you reincarnate into an impoverished part of the world,
> > and at age five remember, "I've got me a big old hunking wad of
> > cash in that bank in Gibraltar" how exactly would  you get it?
>
> Almost more important, inflation being what it is,
> when you managed to get your hands on that big old
> hunking wad of cash, would it buy more than a cup
> of coffee at Starbucks?
>
> Mu. Or woof. Whatever. :-)
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > That's hilarious. Great find.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Reincarnation Bank was originally set up for Elliott Trevesk who
> > > > has now decided to give the banking facility to all believers of
> > > > reincarnation...
> > >
> > > So would the "password check" involve a simple password,
> > > or would the new reincarnatee need to pick out some item
> > > of clothing he'd worn in a past life?  :-)
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: What A Week

[obbajeeba]

Thank you for your concern. Please do not feel sorry for me.
I think I may have deserved it. Although is was very rude and could have harmed 
some other type of person for what the Turq had posted, if I was someone else. 
I actually was jerking his beef stick and I believe he knew it, so he jerked my 
neck chain a little back. 
I really do not think he meant harm to me. Takes a little while to break in the 
green, don't ya know. : )

 Where I come from, the karma rinses off like water color paints. Like on Holi. 

Thank you for the compliments of being insightful, sweet and refreshing, those 
are my middle names!
 As one Pandit put it, I play with negativity like a tiger plays with a smaller 
object. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik"  wrote:
>
> What a week on FFL – Robin, your posts as always sing a dynamic tune of 
> coherent reality. I have read each one enjoyably, happily traveling along to 
> wherever they lead, knowing that I will never be led astray logically. Thanks!
> 
> And Barry, I feel sorry for Obba – she is an insightful, sweet and refreshing 
> presence here, and what you said to her was cruel, and hateful. As much as I 
> have openly insulted you, I have been very reluctant to apply the label 
> sadist to you. Sadism is an incomprehensible psychological reality for me; 
> that someone could get so far away from the pure flame within themselves, 
> that they would *relish* hurting someone sweet and innocent.
> 
> This wasn't the garden variety FFL pissing contest, or tit for tat that I 
> have participated in. This was different, and really ugly. I am not bringing 
> it up to cast aspersions on you Barry. It goes much deeper than that. This 
> sickens me and saddens me. 
> 
> I must confess that sometimes when I have responded to you, I see in my 
> mind's eye a small frightened boy, eight or nine years old (?), within you. I 
> am not making fun of you Barry, and this is not a gleeful perception of mine. 
> I see your fragility, pain and rejection in that young child, and I hope you 
> see it and deal with it too, in a healthy and liberating way.
> 
> But you haven't yet. Hurting others deliberately who are innocent of anything 
> other than befriending you as Obba was doing, is a really sub-human way to 
> act. Your family would be ashamed of you. 
> 
> Mean people suck.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: What A Week

[seventhray1]

Oh, okay.  Thanks for the clarification.   Just a topic I  have always
been interested in.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik" 
wrote:
>
> Hi, yeah I'd be happy to talk about celestial sight! As for
whatshisface, no worries, I am done. This isn't some master tirade. I
meant what I said and I take it seriously. It wasn't a "get him" post at
all. But I will let time tell that tale as it unfolds.
>
> Regarding celestial sight, I guess I described it as halfway between
sight and imagination, although that isn't it. It is truly a subtler
dimension of sight, seen somewhere on a finer level of sight, 3D like
this common version, but fainter, more internal or something, and more
revealing when I focus on it, intentionally or otherwise.
>
> Something seen similarly are body maladies. Not really accurate to say
because a healthy body can be seen into as easily, it is just that my
attention is naturally drawn to an injury when it occurs.
>
> Some of the things I have noticed over the span of this stuff: There
is a color scale I see, not a person's aura or anything, but a subtle
sight of the affected body part color, from red to yellow to green to
black, going from healthy to injured. White can indicate muscle strain.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > I like you. I really do. And I especially enjoyed what you said last
> > week about how to slightly alter your perception to see the
celestial
> > side of things. I hope you will elaborate on that some. But I must
> > say, that your comments here remind me of what you sometimes hear
from
> > Obama critics. I mean they've been criticizing him for years, but
now
> > and then they will chime in that "now he's really done it. I was
> > holding back a little in how poorly I thought he was doing, but now
I've
> > been pushed over the edge".
> >
> > That's kind of what I'm reminded of by your comments. Seems like
you've
> > been going full bore for a while now.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > What a week on FFL – Robin, your posts as always sing a
dynamic
> > tune of coherent reality. I have read each one enjoyably, happily
> > traveling along to wherever they lead, knowing that I will never be
led
> > astray logically. Thanks!
> > >
> > > And Barry, I feel sorry for Obba – she is an insightful, sweet
and
> > refreshing presence here, and what you said to her was cruel, and
> > hateful. As much as I have openly insulted you, I have been very
> > reluctant to apply the label sadist to you. Sadism is an
> > incomprehensible psychological reality for me; that someone could
get so
> > far away from the pure flame within themselves, that they would
*relish*
> > hurting someone sweet and innocent.
> > >
> > > This wasn't the garden variety FFL pissing contest, or tit for tat
> > that I have participated in. This was different, and really ugly. I
am
> > not bringing it up to cast aspersions on you Barry. It goes much
deeper
> > than that. This sickens me and saddens me.
> > >
> > > I must confess that sometimes when I have responded to you, I see
in
> > my mind's eye a small frightened boy, eight or nine years old (?),
> > within you. I am not making fun of you Barry, and this is not a
gleeful
> > perception of mine. I see your fragility, pain and rejection in that
> > young child, and I hope you see it and deal with it too, in a
healthy
> > and liberating way.
> > >
> > > But you haven't yet. Hurting others deliberately who are innocent
of
> > anything other than befriending you as Obba was doing, is a really
> > sub-human way to act. Your family would be ashamed of you.
> > >
> > > Mean people suck.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[obbajeeba]

I agree. The original post of Judy's as subject below of, red and hot, fits the 
description very well as so is the obsession worthy to have.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Er, Judy, do not second guess the perfection of your original post here - it 
> was divine, I must say.  Now, please, have pity on us incoherants and do 
> consult with the Others and get back to us, as time and intention dictate. We 
> are, after all, waiting for something new and worthy to "obsess on."  Ho ho 
> ho.    
> 
> P.S.  I won't hold my breath :)
> 
> 
> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:38 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
>  
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> 
> > (MZ, front and center, please. I'd like a word with you. No,
> > just leave the harp where you found it. You don't know how
> > to play it anyway. I'm going to give you something much
> > more interesting to play with, something red-hot, heh heh.)
> 
> Er, that didn't come out quite the way I meant it. I had in
> mind *red-hot coals* to fit with the mise-en-scene here.
> Punishment for MZ, IOW. Yoicks.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[obbajeeba]

I agree. The original post of Judy's as subject below of, red and hot, fits the 
description very well as so is the obsession worthy to have.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Er, Judy, do not second guess the perfection of your original post here - it 
> was divine, I must say.  Now, please, have pity on us incoherants and do 
> consult with the Others and get back to us, as time and intention dictate. We 
> are, after all, waiting for something new and worthy to "obsess on."  Ho ho 
> ho.    
> 
> P.S.  I won't hold my breath :)
> 
> 
> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:38 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
>  
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> 
> > (MZ, front and center, please. I'd like a word with you. No,
> > just leave the harp where you found it. You don't know how
> > to play it anyway. I'm going to give you something much
> > more interesting to play with, something red-hot, heh heh.)
> 
> Er, that didn't come out quite the way I meant it. I had in
> mind *red-hot coals* to fit with the mise-en-scene here.
> Punishment for MZ, IOW. Yoicks.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Er, Judy, do not second guess the perfection of your original
> post here - it was divine, I must say.  Now, please, have pity
> on us incoherants and do consult with the Others and get back
> to us, as time and intention dictate. We are, after all, 
> waiting for something new and worthy to "obsess on." Ho ho ho.
> 
> P.S. I won't hold my breath :)

No, DO NOT hold your breath. We've had some extra-special
prana piped in after the recent, uh, disturbance. It'll
make you feel real fine; you don't want to interrupt the
effect. I'll see what I can do to rustle you up a nice
relaxing obsession.

(Let me know if you can hear the harps, by the way. We
may need to up the prana dosage if we find they're still
getting through.)




> 
> 
> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:38 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
>  
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> 
> > (MZ, front and center, please. I'd like a word with you. No,
> > just leave the harp where you found it. You don't know how
> > to play it anyway. I'm going to give you something much
> > more interesting to play with, something red-hot, heh heh.)
> 
> Er, that didn't come out quite the way I meant it. I had in
> mind *red-hot coals* to fit with the mise-en-scene here.
> Punishment for MZ, IOW. Yoicks.
>

[FairfieldLife] Native American Indian Symbolism

[ynorthr]

Native Americans hold and use symbols as a sacred part of their traditions. 
This is interesting and explained here.
http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/ameerican-indian-symbolism-children-of-light/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Revelation and Conversion

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Within the week this was composed, and after reading it several
> times, each time wearing a different pair of multi-colored
> glasses, I must say that this exchange is the epitome of FFL 
> loveliness.  *So* well constructed, that even if the "names
> were changed to protect the innocent," it is still brilliantly 
> comedic and otherworldly and worldly all at the same time.

Wow, thank you.

> My week off from FFL started with an absolute *fit* of joyful 
> laughter.

'Twas all worth it, then.

SO glad to see you back. Watch your post count this week,
please! Things tend to go to pot after a few days when
you aren't around, especially now that Ravi's no longer
here. The necessary clean-up can be very entertaining and
even enlightening, but it ain't as joyful.

> I was at a Seattle symphony event this week - Joshua Bell
> was visiting and played the solo for this orchestral piece.

Bruch has never been one of my favorites, but I don't
think I'd ever heard this piece. I liked it a lot, thanks.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[obbajeeba]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87XQKCXfFjQ

and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HRa4X07jdE

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Beautiful. 
> Welcome back, Emily.
> 
> You give such a kind way to botox the turq's value up. 
> Tendering his heart is what is needed for him to see not all women carry a 
> whiny tone as he interpreted. If only he could here the voice, he would feel 
> so much different in what he reads. The non squeaky, clear as a bell sooth, 
> he misses in his extraction of meanings from the words typed, like 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcWZV-FHB2U
> or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZPmZ64m3_4   or 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Ckee7rabM
> or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0
> Turq just has the wrong tone in his musical ear when he reads the typed words 
> from the babes of FFL.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> >
> > Barry, here is my heartfelt and light response to several of your recent 
> > posts.  Yes, I included a "funny" for you in video format, although not 
> > nearly as "face value" funny as the Kate Winslet clip re: gender 
> > perceptions.  Nor as humorous and gentle and as Merudanda's posts.  Mine 
> > is focused more on social convention as an art :)
> > 
> > For context of my post, consider that perhaps some or many FFL participants 
> > are giving similar treatment to all members in acknowledging and witnessing 
> > their posts as being written by human beings; of participating in a 
> > conversation; of expressing and sharing different points of view; of 
> > serving as entertainment or provoking thought with regard to the topics 
> > discussed; or aiding in understanding the human condition and ourselves 
> > better.
> > 
> > IMO, you misconstrued (and changed the reality) of Obba's email to you by 
> > representing it as a "whiny plea for attention from you" and you would also 
> > have your readers believe that you were being "compassionate" in your 
> > response.  Is that how you were feeling about the "dreck?"  I thought you 
> > were angry.  It's O.K. - we all get angry now and again, Barry, and this 
> > is now all in the past and the dirty laundry has been aired out..  
> > 
> > Barry, do you really think that all of us who respond to you, who you don't 
> > like, or who you continually put down, are just "looking for attention from 
> > you?" And you go even further in assuming this (and I read you here at face 
> > value as you seem so intent on making this point): 
> > 
> > "But *THEY* are so obsessed with me that *they read every 
> > word of every one of my posts*. They probably read them 
> > multiple times, trying to work up enough faux outrage and
> > hatred to fuel a stinging reply. 
> > 
> > Seems to me that obsession is its own reward. They're 
> > trapped in a samskaric cycle that they cannot escape from.
> > They're in EXACTLY the position they want *me* to be in,
> > but which they cannot achieve. They have to sit there and 
> > read every word I write, whether about them, or about 
> > anything else.
> > 
> > As Ravi might say, they're my bitches. :-)
> > 
> > And they will continue to be as long as they continue
> > obsessing on me..."
> > 
> > You are most definitely not "prescient", IMHO.  Could you have predicted 
> > that in Ravi's absence, you would choose to assume this part of his 
> > internet character where you now refer to *THEY* that read your posts and 
> > respond to you in ways that offend you as obsessed with you and your 
> > "bitches?"  So funny, Barry, you must see the humor in this, n'est-ce pas? 
> >  I hope you weren't serious.  You just have been presenting in such a 
> > depressed manner of late (IMO), I'm not sure anymore.
> > 
> > Barry, you so undersell yourself herethink better of yourself, man. 
> >  In the context you wrote it, why assume that the only reason I might read 
> > you, for example, is because I am "obsessing" on you?  Was it meant as a 
> > put-down to your readers that don't always agree with you? It says more 
> > about your own self-worth.  Maybe I think you may have something to say 
> > that could be "interesting," regardless of whether I appreciate all of your 
> > posts all the time, and regardless of whether I comment back to you in ways 
> > you don't always like. 
> > 
> > And, this statement below from another of your posts is also truly amazing 
> > coming out of your mouth.  Why are you here?  What is the payoff of 
> > staying here?  You could easily correspond offline with those people you 
> > deem worth reading - why suffer here year after year?  There is a reason, 
> > Barry, and I hope you continue to stay until you figure it out.  Barry, 
> > IMHO, you don't see "trends" - how can you when you only look at some of 
> > the data? You don't see "the forest through the trees" - how can you when 
> > you are so far in the forest yourself on a daily basis?  If you were to 
> > decide t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy January 12th

[futur.musik]

I was surfing around on my pc out in the studio and I remember his voice. Not 
out loud or anything, but in my head, kind of like the subtle sight only it 
works with all of the senses. I was surprised and then through the same process 
of thought I began speaking with him. Nothing memorable, just more or less 
checking out the phenomenon. It was the first time I had heard from him, didn't 
really have my attention on it. 

It is odd in a way interacting with saints and other beings celestially, 
because the same rules of courtesy and respect apply as if you were meeting the 
person in so-called real life. Same expectations and blending of personalities 
for friendship and relationship.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik"  wrote:
> >
> > I found myself speaking with him the other evening. Must've
> > been the cognac...;-)
> 
> How's he doing? What'd he have to say?
> 
> If you talk to him again, please give him our best.
> 
> (Well, the best of *some* of us, anyway!)
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A very clear thinker - from this comes a movement which provides 
> > > > millions with a technique for realization. Happy (belated) Birthday to 
> > > > Maharishi! 
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you again for the life changing techniques of TM and TMSP, and 
> > > > the engineering ability to take this fragile technique and spread it 
> > > > world wide. Jai Maharishi.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Jai Maharishi !
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy January 12th

[obbajeeba]

It is Friday the 13th!

The 12th was very nice and special. The small group was auspiciously adhered 
with more than one and smaller than five,  a very enjoyable and delicious 
celebration of simple foods.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik"  wrote:
> >
> > I found myself speaking with him the other evening. Must've
> > been the cognac...;-)
> 
> How's he doing? What'd he have to say?
> 
> If you talk to him again, please give him our best.
> 
> (Well, the best of *some* of us, anyway!)
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A very clear thinker - from this comes a movement which provides 
> > > > millions with a technique for realization. Happy (belated) Birthday to 
> > > > Maharishi! 
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you again for the life changing techniques of TM and TMSP, and 
> > > > the engineering ability to take this fragile technique and spread it 
> > > > world wide. Jai Maharishi.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Jai Maharishi !
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: What A Week

[futur.musik]

Hi, yeah I'd be happy to talk about celestial sight! As for whatshisface, no 
worries, I am done. This isn't some master tirade. I meant what I said and I 
take it seriously. It wasn't a "get him" post at all. But I will let time tell 
that tale as it unfolds.

Regarding celestial sight, I guess I described it as halfway between sight and 
imagination, although that isn't it. It is truly a subtler dimension of sight, 
seen somewhere on a finer level of sight, 3D like this common version, but 
fainter, more internal or something, and more revealing when I  focus on it, 
intentionally or otherwise.

Something seen similarly are body maladies. Not really accurate to say because 
a healthy body can be seen into as easily, it is just that my attention is 
naturally drawn to an injury when it occurs. 

Some of the things I have noticed over the span of this stuff: There is a color 
scale I see, not a person's aura or anything, but a subtle sight of the 
affected body part color, from red to yellow to green to black, going from 
healthy to injured. White can indicate muscle strain.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> Jim,
> 
> I like you.  I really do.  And I especially enjoyed what you said last
> week about how to slightly alter your perception to see the celestial
> side of things.  I hope you will elaborate on that some.  But I must
> say, that your comments here remind me of what you sometimes hear from
> Obama critics.  I mean they've been criticizing him for years, but now
> and then they will chime in that "now he's really done it.  I was
> holding back a little in how poorly I thought he was doing, but now I've
> been pushed over the edge".
> 
> That's kind of what I'm reminded of by your comments.  Seems like you've
> been going full bore for a while now.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik" 
> wrote:
> >
> > What a week on FFL – Robin, your posts as always sing a dynamic
> tune of coherent reality. I have read each one enjoyably, happily
> traveling along to wherever they lead, knowing that I will never be led
> astray logically. Thanks!
> >
> > And Barry, I feel sorry for Obba – she is an insightful, sweet and
> refreshing presence here, and what you said to her was cruel, and
> hateful. As much as I have openly insulted you, I have been very
> reluctant to apply the label sadist to you. Sadism is an
> incomprehensible psychological reality for me; that someone could get so
> far away from the pure flame within themselves, that they would *relish*
> hurting someone sweet and innocent.
> >
> > This wasn't the garden variety FFL pissing contest, or tit for tat
> that I have participated in. This was different, and really ugly. I am
> not bringing it up to cast aspersions on you Barry. It goes much deeper
> than that. This sickens me and saddens me.
> >
> > I must confess that sometimes when I have responded to you, I see in
> my mind's eye a small frightened boy, eight or nine years old (?),
> within you. I am not making fun of you Barry, and this is not a gleeful
> perception of mine. I see your fragility, pain and rejection in that
> young child, and I hope you see it and deal with it too, in a healthy
> and liberating way.
> >
> > But you haven't yet. Hurting others deliberately who are innocent of
> anything other than befriending you as Obba was doing, is a really
> sub-human way to act. Your family would be ashamed of you.
> >
> > Mean people suck.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Lady of Naju miracles

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:

> Manifestations associated with Julia Kim, such as the incident
> in which - witnessed by the last Pope - the Host on her tongue 
> transformed into bloody flesh.
> ...
> [an interesting case of cannibalism! Could this be called
> "Vulture Catholocism"...as opposed to Romney's "Vulture
> Capitalism"].

LOL. Meaning no disrespect to Sister Kim or Catholicism, but
that's a pretty good line, Yifu.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy January 12th

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik"  wrote:
>
> I found myself speaking with him the other evening. Must've
> been the cognac...;-)

How's he doing? What'd he have to say?

If you talk to him again, please give him our best.

(Well, the best of *some* of us, anyway!)


> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik"  wrote:
> > >
> > > A very clear thinker - from this comes a movement which provides millions 
> > > with a technique for realization. Happy (belated) Birthday to Maharishi! 
> > > 
> > > Thank you again for the life changing techniques of TM and TMSP, and the 
> > > engineering ability to take this fragile technique and spread it world 
> > > wide. Jai Maharishi.
> > 
> > 
> > Jai Maharishi !
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[obbajeeba]

Beautiful. 
Welcome back, Emily.

You give such a kind way to botox the turq's value up. 
Tendering his heart is what is needed for him to see not all women carry a 
whiny tone as he interpreted. If only he could here the voice, he would feel so 
much different in what he reads. The non squeaky, clear as a bell sooth, he 
misses in his extraction of meanings from the words typed, like 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcWZV-FHB2U
or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZPmZ64m3_4   or 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Ckee7rabM
or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0
Turq just has the wrong tone in his musical ear when he reads the typed words 
from the babes of FFL.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Barry, here is my heartfelt and light response to several of your recent 
> posts.  Yes, I included a "funny" for you in video format, although not 
> nearly as "face value" funny as the Kate Winslet clip re: gender perceptions. 
>  Nor as humorous and gentle and as Merudanda's posts.  Mine is focused more 
> on social convention as an art :)
> 
> For context of my post, consider that perhaps some or many FFL participants 
> are giving similar treatment to all members in acknowledging and witnessing 
> their posts as being written by human beings; of participating in a 
> conversation; of expressing and sharing different points of view; of serving 
> as entertainment or provoking thought with regard to the topics discussed; or 
> aiding in understanding the human condition and ourselves better.
> 
> IMO, you misconstrued (and changed the reality) of Obba's email to you by 
> representing it as a "whiny plea for attention from you" and you would also 
> have your readers believe that you were being "compassionate" in your 
> response.  Is that how you were feeling about the "dreck?"  I thought you 
> were angry.  It's O.K. - we all get angry now and again, Barry, and this is 
> now all in the past and the dirty laundry has been aired out..  
> 
> Barry, do you really think that all of us who respond to you, who you don't 
> like, or who you continually put down, are just "looking for attention from 
> you?" And you go even further in assuming this (and I read you here at face 
> value as you seem so intent on making this point): 
> 
> "But *THEY* are so obsessed with me that *they read every 
> word of every one of my posts*. They probably read them 
> multiple times, trying to work up enough faux outrage and
> hatred to fuel a stinging reply. 
> 
> Seems to me that obsession is its own reward. They're 
> trapped in a samskaric cycle that they cannot escape from.
> They're in EXACTLY the position they want *me* to be in,
> but which they cannot achieve. They have to sit there and 
> read every word I write, whether about them, or about 
> anything else.
> 
> As Ravi might say, they're my bitches. :-)
> 
> And they will continue to be as long as they continue
> obsessing on me..."
> 
> You are most definitely not "prescient", IMHO.  Could you have predicted 
> that in Ravi's absence, you would choose to assume this part of his internet 
> character where you now refer to *THEY* that read your posts and respond to 
> you in ways that offend you as obsessed with you and your "bitches?"  So 
> funny, Barry, you must see the humor in this, n'est-ce pas?  I hope you 
> weren't serious.  You just have been presenting in such a depressed manner 
> of late (IMO), I'm not sure anymore.
> 
> Barry, you so undersell yourself herethink better of yourself, man.  In 
> the context you wrote it, why assume that the only reason I might read you, 
> for example, is because I am "obsessing" on you?  Was it meant as a put-down 
> to your readers that don't always agree with you? It says more about your own 
> self-worth.  Maybe I think you may have something to say that could be 
> "interesting," regardless of whether I appreciate all of your posts all the 
> time, and regardless of whether I comment back to you in ways you don't 
> always like. 
> 
> And, this statement below from another of your posts is also truly amazing 
> coming out of your mouth.  Why are you here?  What is the payoff of staying 
> here?  You could easily correspond offline with those people you deem worth 
> reading - why suffer here year after year?  There is a reason, Barry, and I 
> hope you continue to stay until you figure it out.  Barry, IMHO, you don't 
> see "trends" - how can you when you only look at some of the data? You don't 
> see "the forest through the trees" - how can you when you are so far in the 
> forest yourself on a daily basis?  If you were to decide to take a few weeks 
> off, or even maybe one, or maybe even a few days, you might be able to walk
>  out far enough
>  or climb far enough up in a tall tree to get a different perspective on FFL, 
> as a whole and also on its participants. Again, you are undermining your own 
> choices and yourself badly, IMO.  
> 
> "If I h

[FairfieldLife] The Frog Princess

[Yifu]

by Van Oostzanen

http://www.vanoostzanen.com/limited_edition/ltd_frog_princess_2_en.htm

[FairfieldLife] Day

[Yifu]

Day, by William-Adolphe Bouguereau

http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/7896.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Saint Gregory

[Yifu]

by Matthias Stormer
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/6047.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[obbajeeba]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aVbJhg23Ao

...susie... : )  It is just that... : )

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkje4FiH9Qc
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> >
> > Obba,
> > I think it is sometimes difficult to understand whether you are
> serious, or joking. And also to understand the main point of some of
> your posts. Don't take the replies to heart. After all the drama and
> back and forth of the past week, we need a break. I know I am a bit
> irritable and sensitive, and I imagine you are and Barry is too, along
> with everyone else.
> >
> > So my suggestion is, if you can, to let this issue go and forget any
> words that upset you. Just be genuine and be yourself. Relax.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Mr. Barry Turq,
> > > I must consider the most important line of what I wrote below that
> was deserving of your attention, if any, that you responded with your
> below strange angry mood, below this post too, and this comes from my
> first paragraph in what you so attacked with as my needing to get a
> life, and you must have missed it in your quick read through, a post you
> found boring and uninteresting:
> > >
> > > " If the regular life as those who do not sit on forums was so full
> of excitement, this would not matter."
> > >
> > > This obviously mattered to you, because you are projecting your own
> life?
> > > I was only trying to rescue you.
> > > I was reaching out to you.
> > > I was trying to talk doggie talk, the language you are so cuddly
> with, because dogs give unconditional love and licks and wags as long as
> "Master," feeds them. The dog owner, the controller of what he can not
> get from either male or female human, by touch of the skin, caress or
> kiss.
> > >
> > > The matter, came to one who does only sit on forums and is not
> exciting in anyway, I am sure. Woof, woof, woof.
> > >
> > > All that mattered, was that one line, and you took the bait and
> showed your inner selfish love for your self only, and wishing to stay
> that way till the day you leave the earth as if life was already in
> doggie heaven. You are in the dog house. Mr. Meany.
> > > I thought you had better awareness as you judge me for some TM
> branding you created about me, not even knowing if I actually do it or
> not, based on what I say on this board. You labeled me and that is not
> nice.
> > > Bummer. I really thought you were a nice fellow overtaken by cult
> tendencies, beliefs and they are still there, because you are gullible
> to any or all and that is why you attacked me. You do not trust anyone
> to be your friend unless they praise you and sit at your heels.
> > > Think about it. I want an apology, please.
> > > My eyes were swollen almost shut and the pretty blues were
> surrounded by pink, puffy stuff.
> > > It was good for me to be near my last post at the time, it gave me
> time to think and reflect, a spanking from Mr. Turq, and on how you
> attacked me for no reason and that is what I am thankful for.
> > > I had to reread what I wrote to see why you were so mean.
> > > That one line,
> > >
> > > " If the regular life as those who do not sit on forums was so full
> of excitement, this would not matter."
> > >
> > > mattered to you.
> > >
> > > ...Mattered so much, you went on and on about Judy, and the
> MaskedZebra standing up to you about your, "non-matter," of my post as I
> was on my 49th post for the week, kick'em when they're down.
> > >
> > > Have a nice day.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you need attention (or even entertainment) so desperately
> > > > that you feel it's appropriate to write all this dreck, get
> > > > it from someone else. I find that level of neediness a total
> > > > turnoff, both in real life and in surreal cyberspace.
> > > >
> > > > Advice? Get a life, then write about it. Living vicariously
> > > > on the lives of others is so TM.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb 
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" 
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb 
> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba
>  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Not like some dudes on this forum who piss the spot with
> > > > > > > > > complete teeth grinding bark, protection for their red
> > > > > > > > > fire hydrant in multiple layers of consciousness
> available
> > > > > > > > > if only to break through their awareness as something
> more
> > > > > > > > > that tangible, all muddled together 75 foot lead wall
> with
> > > > > > > > > dancing football cheerleaders in

[FairfieldLife] Convent Lily

[Yifu]

by Marie Stillman

http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/32857.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Jacob's Ladder

[Yifu]

by William Blake
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/51347.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Cinderella

[Yifu]

by Dore
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/53428.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[maskedzebra]

Ah, dear Emily: The Emily referred to at the end of the poem is Emily 
DICKINSON—no other Emily. The cold reptilian creature that 
Emily—Dickinson—wrote about had some relevance for the "zero at the bone" 
sensation that obbajeeba must have experienced when Barry couldn't help himself 
and injected obbajeeba with his mystical venom. As often as I remember you, 
Emily—and I owe you a post—you were not in thoughts whatsoever when it came to 
the obbajeeba episode. Emily Dickinson was describing her experience of a 
snake. See my final paragraph in my last post to the Barry guy. 

Robin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Barry, here is my heartfelt and light response to several of your recent 
> posts.  Yes, I included a "funny" for you in video format, although not 
> nearly as "face value" funny as the Kate Winslet clip re: gender perceptions. 
>  Nor as humorous and gentle and as Merudanda's posts.  Mine is focused more 
> on social convention as an art :)
> 
> For context of my post, consider that perhaps some or many FFL participants 
> are giving similar treatment to all members in acknowledging and witnessing 
> their posts as being written by human beings; of participating in a 
> conversation; of expressing and sharing different points of view; of serving 
> as entertainment or provoking thought with regard to the topics discussed; or 
> aiding in understanding the human condition and ourselves better.
> 
> IMO, you misconstrued (and changed the reality) of Obba's email to you by 
> representing it as a "whiny plea for attention from you" and you would also 
> have your readers believe that you were being "compassionate" in your 
> response.  Is that how you were feeling about the "dreck?"  I thought you 
> were angry.  It's O.K. - we all get angry now and again, Barry, and this is 
> now all in the past and the dirty laundry has been aired out..  
> 
> Barry, do you really think that all of us who respond to you, who you don't 
> like, or who you continually put down, are just "looking for attention from 
> you?" And you go even further in assuming this (and I read you here at face 
> value as you seem so intent on making this point): 
> 
> "But *THEY* are so obsessed with me that *they read every 
> word of every one of my posts*. They probably read them 
> multiple times, trying to work up enough faux outrage and
> hatred to fuel a stinging reply. 
> 
> Seems to me that obsession is its own reward. They're 
> trapped in a samskaric cycle that they cannot escape from.
> They're in EXACTLY the position they want *me* to be in,
> but which they cannot achieve. They have to sit there and 
> read every word I write, whether about them, or about 
> anything else.
> 
> As Ravi might say, they're my bitches. :-)
> 
> And they will continue to be as long as they continue
> obsessing on me..."
> 
> You are most definitely not "prescient", IMHO.  Could you have predicted 
> that in Ravi's absence, you would choose to assume this part of his internet 
> character where you now refer to *THEY* that read your posts and respond to 
> you in ways that offend you as obsessed with you and your "bitches?"  So 
> funny, Barry, you must see the humor in this, n'est-ce pas?  I hope you 
> weren't serious.  You just have been presenting in such a depressed manner 
> of late (IMO), I'm not sure anymore.
> 
> Barry, you so undersell yourself herethink better of yourself, man.  In 
> the context you wrote it, why assume that the only reason I might read you, 
> for example, is because I am "obsessing" on you?  Was it meant as a put-down 
> to your readers that don't always agree with you? It says more about your own 
> self-worth.  Maybe I think you may have something to say that could be 
> "interesting," regardless of whether I appreciate all of your posts all the 
> time, and regardless of whether I comment back to you in ways you don't 
> always like. 
> 
> And, this statement below from another of your posts is also truly amazing 
> coming out of your mouth.  Why are you here?  What is the payoff of staying 
> here?  You could easily correspond offline with those people you deem worth 
> reading - why suffer here year after year?  There is a reason, Barry, and I 
> hope you continue to stay until you figure it out.  Barry, IMHO, you don't 
> see "trends" - how can you when you only look at some of the data? You don't 
> see "the forest through the trees" - how can you when you are so far in the 
> forest yourself on a daily basis?  If you were to decide to take a few weeks 
> off, or even maybe one, or maybe even a few days, you might be able to walk
>  out far enough
>  or climb far enough up in a tall tree to get a different perspective on FFL, 
> as a whole and also on its participants. Again, you are undermining your own 
> choices and yourself badly, IMO.  
> 
> "If I had to recommend to a young person what might be better
> for their evolution -- hang

[FairfieldLife] The Heavenly Hosts

[Yifu]

by Dore
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/53448.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Depiction of Satan

[Yifu]

by Paul Gustav Dore

http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/53431.jpg

that was back then; now it's a different story. Nope, he's not in Hell. He 
has his own Heaven, "on High", for worthy Souls not granted into the Jesus 
Heaven.

[FairfieldLife] Andromeda

[Yifu]

Andromeda, by Paul Gustave Dore
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/53424.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Matterhorn Disaster

[Yifu]

by Paul Gustave Dore
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/53436.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Andromeda

[Yifu]

by Paul Gustave Dore
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/2/11929.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Dante in Exile

[Yifu]

by Lord Frederick Leighton, 1864
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/2/11929.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Dante

[Yifu]

by Michael Parkes
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/3/20223.jpg

[FairfieldLife] The Barque of Dante

[Yifu]

by Delacroix, 1822
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/3564.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Dante is Accepted by the Greek and Roman Poets

[Yifu]

by Paul Gustave Dore
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/53429.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Punishment of the Serpents in Dantes' Hell

[Yifu]

by Van Ostzanen
http://www.vanoostzanen.com/painting/dante_hell_2_en.html

Looks like a punishment for both.

[FairfieldLife] Dante's Way to Inferno

[Yifu]

by Jacek Lipowczan
http://www.artofimagination.org/Pages/Lipowczan_dantesway.html

[FairfieldLife] Perfect Moment

[Yifu]

by Deborah DeLisi
http://www.artofimagination.org/Pages/DeLisi_perfectmoment.html

[FairfieldLife] Impossibility of Being in the Brain of Someone Living

[Yifu]

by Yvonne Maps Francis

http://www.artofimagination.org/Pages/Francis_impossibility.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[seventhray1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkje4FiH9Qc



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
>
> Obba,
> I think it is sometimes difficult to understand whether you are
serious, or joking. And also to understand the main point of some of
your posts. Don't take the replies to heart. After all the drama and
back and forth of the past week, we need a break. I know I am a bit
irritable and sensitive, and I imagine you are and Barry is too, along
with everyone else.
>
> So my suggestion is, if you can, to let this issue go and forget any
words that upset you. Just be genuine and be yourself. Relax.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mr. Barry Turq,
> > I must consider the most important line of what I wrote below that
was deserving of your attention, if any, that you responded with your
below strange angry mood, below this post too, and this comes from my
first paragraph in what you so attacked with as my needing to get a
life, and you must have missed it in your quick read through, a post you
found boring and uninteresting:
> >
> > " If the regular life as those who do not sit on forums was so full
of excitement, this would not matter."
> >
> > This obviously mattered to you, because you are projecting your own
life?
> > I was only trying to rescue you.
> > I was reaching out to you.
> > I was trying to talk doggie talk, the language you are so cuddly
with, because dogs give unconditional love and licks and wags as long as
"Master," feeds them. The dog owner, the controller of what he can not
get from either male or female human, by touch of the skin, caress or
kiss.
> >
> > The matter, came to one who does only sit on forums and is not
exciting in anyway, I am sure. Woof, woof, woof.
> >
> > All that mattered, was that one line, and you took the bait and
showed your inner selfish love for your self only, and wishing to stay
that way till the day you leave the earth as if life was already in
doggie heaven. You are in the dog house. Mr. Meany.
> > I thought you had better awareness as you judge me for some TM
branding you created about me, not even knowing if I actually do it or
not, based on what I say on this board. You labeled me and that is not
nice.
> > Bummer. I really thought you were a nice fellow overtaken by cult
tendencies, beliefs and they are still there, because you are gullible
to any or all and that is why you attacked me. You do not trust anyone
to be your friend unless they praise you and sit at your heels.
> > Think about it. I want an apology, please.
> > My eyes were swollen almost shut and the pretty blues were
surrounded by pink, puffy stuff.
> > It was good for me to be near my last post at the time, it gave me
time to think and reflect, a spanking from Mr. Turq, and on how you
attacked me for no reason and that is what I am thankful for.
> > I had to reread what I wrote to see why you were so mean.
> > That one line,
> >
> > " If the regular life as those who do not sit on forums was so full
of excitement, this would not matter."
> >
> > mattered to you.
> >
> > ...Mattered so much, you went on and on about Judy, and the
MaskedZebra standing up to you about your, "non-matter," of my post as I
was on my 49th post for the week, kick'em when they're down.
> >
> > Have a nice day.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > If you need attention (or even entertainment) so desperately
> > > that you feel it's appropriate to write all this dreck, get
> > > it from someone else. I find that level of neediness a total
> > > turnoff, both in real life and in surreal cyberspace.
> > >
> > > Advice? Get a life, then write about it. Living vicariously
> > > on the lives of others is so TM.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb 
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" 
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb 
wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba
 wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not like some dudes on this forum who piss the spot with
> > > > > > > > complete teeth grinding bark, protection for their red
> > > > > > > > fire hydrant in multiple layers of consciousness
available
> > > > > > > > if only to break through their awareness as something
more
> > > > > > > > that tangible, all muddled together 75 foot lead wall
with
> > > > > > > > dancing football cheerleaders in cowboy lingerie.
> > > > > > > > Nabby not included. He has some morals about morals.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let me guess. You've been taking the same "How To
> > > > > > > Write Completely Incoherent English" correspondence
> > > > > > > course that MZ, Ravi, and Bob Price took, right?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For me, the thought/c

[FairfieldLife] Operating the Intutition Machine

[Yifu]

by Van Oostzanen
http://www.vanoostzanen.com/painting/venus_intuition_2_en.htm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[seventhray1]

Thank you Emily.  I would be lying if I said I wasn't looking forward to
your return.  And I do feel better already.  But it looks to me like
we've traded Ravi for Robin, and I don't feel it's a zero sum game.  I
think we're coming out ahead!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn 
wrote:
>
> Steve. Â Pull up, pull out...I think I might see a ray of
lightbut, come on Steveyou have a *BIG* heart, I know you
do...look how upset you were about Ravi's dismissal...after all. Â
Here's Madonna for you. Â She's in white. Â
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyBQ0MDDcCQ&feature=related
>
>
>
> 
> From: seventhray1 steve.sundur@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:15 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
>
>
> Â
> Let me reply as I go through.
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > Dear Steve,
> >
> > You see what a beautiful rose has flowered from your last post. Your
weakness has been perfectly exploited, and the post which you see here
from Amsterdam is the offspring of your Inspector
Clouseauâ€"Neville Chamberlain approach to these disputes.  You
already have me smiling with these references.
> >
> > Barry is one tricky dude, that's for sure. Poor obbajeeba. She now
knows that Barry acted with justice. I hope she realizes this.
> >
> > The sadism, it has made you a pawn, and this is only inevitable,
given your refusal to call that nun a burglar when even the judge
declared, based on the evidence, she was guilty of stealing your
mother's jewellery.
> This is a good point.  I do seem to have a blind spot in that
regard.  FTR, it was the detective who coaxed a confession out of
her.  Her date with the judge is coming up.
> > No, Barry is much worse than I thought. But I can thank you, Steve,
for drawing him out like this.
> >
> > Obviously he has made his case. Now go back to his post to
obbajeeba, read it carefully from beginning to end; then read Judy's
post; after that my first post to Barry; and finally read the post to
which Barry is referring here, which, according to him, *he has not
read*.
> >
> > I think it best just to give him his rightful influence at
FFLâ€"even as he, most despicably has refused to speak to me
directly, or make his case inside the context of a counter-argument
which takes me on personally.
> >
> > He is the subtlest liar there could be. And everything, down to the
last nuance, is, in this post addressed to you, deceitful and
manipulativeâ€"but very inspired.
> >
> > This level of bullshit, it leaves everyone, or almost everyone, with
their head spinning. As it will yours. You see, Steve, Barry has taken
the hard and categorical position vis-a-vis myself that you in principle
refuse to or cannot take. You should take your cues from him. For he has
finally committed himself all the way.
> >
> > You now can't have it both ways. Either you argue with Barry the way
you have argued with meâ€"which you will not do; or if you make the
half-hearted attempt to do so, Barry will just have contempt for you. As
he does even now.Â
> Robin, I will be completely honest.  I pull my punches with
both of you.  And that is all I will say on that for now.Â
> > You have allowed yourself to be used, Stevie Baby. And he looked
upon his works. And he saw that it was good.
> How about as Shakespeare in Julies Caesar might say, "And
Barry is an h-o-n-o-r-a-b-l-e man".  I couldn't resist that. 
Apropos of nothing Â
> > This is on one level great fun; on another level it is politics that
goes well past poor little Nicolo.
> >
> > You will have to come down, finally, on one side or the other,
Steve.
> >
> > From strictly a human standpoint I deem this long post by Barry
Wright to be devoid of human feeling, and to be deliberately and
cunningly conceived out of pure malice and deceit. But to perceive this,
well, I guess you'd have to hate Barry as much as I do.
> Yes, I thought Barry's reply to Obbajeeba was a little harsh, but
that's Barry - often.  I mean, even Curtis has called him on
this sometimes.  In particular in one instance when he was harsh
in responding to you.  But, I mean, so what.  Is this a capital
offense? Â
> > Lovely man, Barry. And I am only saying this because he has, gentle
FFL reader, refuted me up and down. And this, by cracky, hurts.
> >
> > As you can imagine.
> >
> > Barry has found your weakness, Steve, and he has put it to use
big-time. If Barry is who I think he is, then you have just received all
the proof you need of the stupidity and blindness of a particular aspect
of your modus operandi.
> Okay, confession time.  I had my astrological chart done by Hart
Defoe around 25 years ago, and he said I was a slow processor.  And
of course as recently as just last week, I was declared to be a "pea
brained heartland retard".  At least I wasn't called a
"heartless retard".  Now that might have hurt.Â
> 

[FairfieldLife] Schroomglow

[Yifu]

by Robert Venosa
http://www.artofimagination.org/Pages/Venosa_schroomglow.html

[FairfieldLife] Trying to Navigate by the Machine

[Yifu]

by Van Oostzanen

http://www.vanoostzanen.com/painting/navigate_machine_2_en.htm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[seventhray1]

written by someone who has access to the faint feeling level many of us
learned about, which by the way seems to  have the qualities of humor,
vulnerability, and strength to name a few


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Dear Mr. Barry Turq,
> I must consider the most important line of what I wrote below that was
deserving of your attention, if any, that you responded with your below
strange angry mood, below this post too, and this comes from my first
paragraph in what you so attacked with as my needing to get a life, and
you must have missed it in your quick read through, a post you found
boring and uninteresting:
>
> " If the regular life as those who do not sit on forums was so full of
excitement, this would not matter."
>
> This obviously mattered to you, because you are projecting your own
life?
> I was only trying to rescue you.
> I was reaching out to you.
> I was trying to talk doggie talk, the language you are so cuddly with,
because dogs give unconditional love and licks and wags as long as
"Master," feeds them. The dog owner, the controller of what he can not
get from either male or female human, by touch of the skin, caress or
kiss.
>
> The matter, came to one who does only sit on forums and is not
exciting in anyway, I am sure. Woof, woof, woof.
>
> All that mattered, was that one line, and you took the bait and showed
your inner selfish love for your self only, and wishing to stay that way
till the day you leave the earth as if life was already in doggie
heaven. You are in the dog house. Mr. Meany.
> I thought you had better awareness as you judge me for some TM
branding you created about me, not even knowing if I actually do it or
not, based on what I say on this board. You labeled me and that is not
nice.
> Bummer. I really thought you were a nice fellow overtaken by cult
tendencies, beliefs and they are still there, because you are gullible
to any or all and that is why you attacked me. You do not trust anyone
to be your friend unless they praise you and sit at your heels.
> Think about it. I want an apology, please.
> My eyes were swollen almost shut and the pretty blues were surrounded
by pink, puffy stuff.
> It was good for me to be near my last post at the time, it gave me
time to think and reflect, a spanking from Mr. Turq, and on how you
attacked me for no reason and that is what I am thankful for.
> I had to reread what I wrote to see why you were so mean.
> That one line,
>
> " If the regular life as those who do not sit on forums was so full of
excitement, this would not matter."
>
> mattered to you.
>
> ...Mattered so much, you went on and on about Judy, and the
MaskedZebra standing up to you about your, "non-matter," of my post as I
was on my 49th post for the week, kick'em when they're down.
>
> Have a nice day.
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > If you need attention (or even entertainment) so desperately
> > that you feel it's appropriate to write all this dreck, get
> > it from someone else. I find that level of neediness a total
> > turnoff, both in real life and in surreal cyberspace.
> >
> > Advice? Get a life, then write about it. Living vicariously
> > on the lives of others is so TM.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" 
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb 
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba 
wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not like some dudes on this forum who piss the spot with
> > > > > > > complete teeth grinding bark, protection for their red
> > > > > > > fire hydrant in multiple layers of consciousness available
> > > > > > > if only to break through their awareness as something more
> > > > > > > that tangible, all muddled together 75 foot lead wall with
> > > > > > > dancing football cheerleaders in cowboy lingerie.
> > > > > > > Nabby not included. He has some morals about morals.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let me guess. You've been taking the same "How To
> > > > > > Write Completely Incoherent English" correspondence
> > > > > > course that MZ, Ravi, and Bob Price took, right?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > For me, the thought/concern/problem was the the writing
> > > > > just might be an accurate reflection of the thinking process!
> > > >
> > > > My point exactly.
> > >
> > > Since this post is the last of two for this week, and this may
turn out rather long because of that as mentioned in the beginning of
this sentence, I wish to ask Mr. Turq for some advice. The thinking
process could be upset and that is the purpose and intent of the write.
If the regular life as those who do not sit on forums was so full of
excitement, this would not matter. I find your concern for me, Mr. Turq,
a bit appreciating to my jilted mind.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Levana - Guardian Angel

[seventhray1]

I guess there is some unobtanium in heaven.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
>
> by Wim Kuenen
> http://prema.exto.nl/kunstwerk/12576833_LEVANA.html
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[obbajeeba]

Susan, 
It is not difficult for me to understand if I am serious, or joking. 
A nice cool shower can help, if you need a break. Some candles, essential oils, 
pitta, blissful joy. These are good, hum? Achaa.
 : )
I am sorry you are a bit irritable and sensitive, from your admission below,  
as I know I am not (irritable or sensitive).  

Group hug, okay? 
  Group hug. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL12P0Litfg

Come on, put your arms out just like asanas, and sun salutations,  there. Good 
girl. Feel better soon. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
>
> Obba,
> I think it is sometimes difficult to understand whether you are serious, or 
> joking. And also to understand the main point of some of your posts.  Don't 
> take the replies to heart.  After all the drama and back and forth of the 
> past week, we need a break.  I know I am a bit irritable and sensitive, and I 
> imagine you are and Barry is too, along with everyone else.
> 
> So my suggestion is, if you can, to let this issue go and forget any words 
> that upset you. Just be genuine and be yourself.  Relax.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mr. Barry Turq,
> >   I must consider the most important line of what I wrote below that was 
> > deserving of your attention, if any, that you responded with your below 
> > strange angry mood, below this post too,  and this comes from my first 
> > paragraph in what you so attacked with as my needing to get a life, and you 
> > must have missed it in your quick read through, a post you found boring and 
> > uninteresting: 
> > 
> > " If the regular life as those who do not sit on forums was so full of 
> > excitement, this would not matter."
> > 
> > This obviously mattered to you, because you are projecting your own life?
> >  I was only trying to rescue you. 
> >   I was reaching out to you. 
> >I was trying to talk doggie talk, the language you are so cuddly with, 
> > because dogs give unconditional love and licks and wags as long as 
> > "Master," feeds them. The dog owner, the controller of what he can not get 
> > from either male or female human, by touch of the skin, caress or kiss. 
> > 
> > The matter, came to one who does only sit on forums and is not exciting in 
> > anyway, I am sure. Woof, woof, woof.
> > 
> >   All that mattered, was that one line, and you took the bait and showed 
> > your inner selfish love for your self only, and wishing to stay that way 
> > till the day you leave the earth as if life was already in doggie heaven. 
> > You are in the dog house.  Mr. Meany.  
> > I thought you had better awareness as you judge me for some TM branding you 
> > created about me, not even knowing if I actually do it or not, based on 
> > what I say on this board. You labeled me and that is not nice. 
> > Bummer. I really thought you were a nice fellow overtaken by cult 
> > tendencies, beliefs and they are still there, because you are gullible to 
> > any or all and that is why you attacked me.  You do not trust anyone to be 
> > your friend unless they praise you and sit at your heels. 
> > Think about it. I want an apology, please.  
> >   My eyes were swollen almost shut and the pretty blues were surrounded by 
> > pink, puffy stuff. 
> >   It was good for me to be near my last post at the time, it gave me time 
> > to think and reflect, a spanking from Mr. Turq, and on how you attacked me 
> > for no reason and that is what I am thankful for.
> >   I had to reread what I wrote to see why you were so mean. 
> > That one line,
> > 
> >  " If the regular life as those who do not sit on forums was so full of 
> > excitement, this would not matter."
> > 
> > mattered to you. 
> > 
> > ...Mattered so much, you went on and on about Judy, and the MaskedZebra 
> > standing up to you about your, "non-matter," of my post as I was on my 49th 
> > post for the week, kick'em when they're down. 
> > 
> > Have a nice day. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > If you need attention (or even entertainment) so desperately 
> > > that you feel it's appropriate to write all this dreck, get
> > > it from someone else. I find that level of neediness a total
> > > turnoff, both in real life and in surreal cyberspace. 
> > > 
> > > Advice? Get a life, then write about it. Living vicariously 
> > > on the lives of others is so TM. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not like some dudes on this forum who piss the spot with 
> > > > > > > > complete teeth grinding bark, protection for their red 
> > > > > > > > fire hydra

[FairfieldLife] Re: What A Week

[seventhray1]

Jim,

I like you.  I really do.  And I especially enjoyed what you said last
week about how to slightly alter your perception to see the celestial
side of things.  I hope you will elaborate on that some.  But I must
say, that your comments here remind me of what you sometimes hear from
Obama critics.  I mean they've been criticizing him for years, but now
and then they will chime in that "now he's really done it.  I was
holding back a little in how poorly I thought he was doing, but now I've
been pushed over the edge".

That's kind of what I'm reminded of by your comments.  Seems like you've
been going full bore for a while now.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik" 
wrote:
>
> What a week on FFL – Robin, your posts as always sing a dynamic
tune of coherent reality. I have read each one enjoyably, happily
traveling along to wherever they lead, knowing that I will never be led
astray logically. Thanks!
>
> And Barry, I feel sorry for Obba – she is an insightful, sweet and
refreshing presence here, and what you said to her was cruel, and
hateful. As much as I have openly insulted you, I have been very
reluctant to apply the label sadist to you. Sadism is an
incomprehensible psychological reality for me; that someone could get so
far away from the pure flame within themselves, that they would *relish*
hurting someone sweet and innocent.
>
> This wasn't the garden variety FFL pissing contest, or tit for tat
that I have participated in. This was different, and really ugly. I am
not bringing it up to cast aspersions on you Barry. It goes much deeper
than that. This sickens me and saddens me.
>
> I must confess that sometimes when I have responded to you, I see in
my mind's eye a small frightened boy, eight or nine years old (?),
within you. I am not making fun of you Barry, and this is not a gleeful
perception of mine. I see your fragility, pain and rejection in that
young child, and I hope you see it and deal with it too, in a healthy
and liberating way.
>
> But you haven't yet. Hurting others deliberately who are innocent of
anything other than befriending you as Obba was doing, is a really
sub-human way to act. Your family would be ashamed of you.
>
> Mean people suck.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[seventhray1]

Hey Robin,

I read this all, and enjoyed it.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
>
> Robin: Just for fun Barry, especially since I did read every word of
the following rant, and can therefore almost certainly tell you what it
means and what motivated it.
>
> Barry: Just for fun, Steve, especially because I didn't read aword of
the rant that you're referring to, but can almostcertainly tell you what
it said, and what motivated it.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
> > >
> > > For instance, I feel it would be cruel of me to ask you
> > > to read my last long post to Barry. And why is this?
> > > Because the extent to which it was successfully exposing
> > > Barry's weakness, is precisely the extent to which you
> > > would not like it. And in fact, you *couldn't* continue
> > > to read it—for this very...
> >
> Steve: I read about a third of it. And you are right, I *couldn't*
> > read anymore.
>
> Barry: That's because you're sane, Steve. :-)
>
> Robin: Knockdown argument here manifested. Saneness made visible
>
> Barry: I didn't read any of it, but I can tell you all about it.
>
> Robin: You read it, liar.
>
> Barry: First, it was long, at least a couple of thousand words,
> the result of easily half an hour or an hour's worth of
> ranting.
>
> Robin: Your hatred is the result of easily 40 years worth of ranting.
>
> Barry: Second, it went through my post point by point
> and tried to turn each point into a condemnation of me,
> "pointing out my weaknesses."
>
> Robin: It succeeded perfectly, or almost perfectly, in this aim.
>
> Barry: Third, it was so badly
> written that only someone with abysmally low standards
> (like an avid Dan Brown reader) would be able to make
> their way through it.
>
> Robin: There will be readers on FFL who will dispute this. In fact if
you compare Barry's Amsterdam Manifesto on Boring and Uninteresting with
my critique of same, there can be no question about it: Robin's putdown
of Barry, interesting; Barry's manifesto, pretty goddamn boring. You
should read it again, Barry. This would be the unanimous verdict of
anyone who was outside of FFL and knew neither one of us. Happy to have
this hypothesis tested. Although you are doing better in your more
venomous rant here.
>
> Barry: And fourth, it was so obviously an"attack on Barry" that no one
other than a person who
> already had a grudge against him would *want* to read it.
>
> Robin: Not an attack upon you at all, Barry. Just making you
accountable, and demonstrating how silly and worthless was your long
boring and uninteresting manifesto.
>
> Barry: Also, it was "cruel" to ask you to read it, but it wasn't
> cruel of him to write it, or to demand that I read it.
>
> Robin: Not sure what you mean here, Barry Boy. I think, according to
what you set out to do here, that it was in fact cruel of me to write
it. But I didn't have to demand that you read it, Barry. You did that on
your own. No one in their right mind who was sane would ever spend a
thousand words commenting on an analysis they didn't read. It would be
too chancy. For all you know, I might have been burying the hatchet.
>
> As it turns out, however, I *was* burying the hatchet. [Reader
supplies own punchline here.]
>
> Barry: How'd I do? :-)
>
> Robin: You're doing fine, Barry. Go on now.
>
> Barry: The reason I'm bothering to comment is to point out some-
> thing that has been pointed out before by Vaj and to some
> extent by Curtis -- the fact that Robin's act *has not
> changed in the least since he was a faux spiritual teacher
> in Fairfield*. It's the same old same old. He's an abuser.
>
> Robin: A bipolar mindset, manic, drama queen, mentally ill abuser,
attention vampire. And it all shine forth in my posts—especially the
ones to Barry.
>
> But an abuser? Do you feel you have been abused, Barry? Well, then, I
have succeeded, although my intent was not to abuse, but to challenge
and refute you.
>
> The sensation of abuse comes in when its hurts, I suppose. Yeah, you
got abused, Barry. Why don't I abuse more persons on this forum, though.
I need some more victims.
>
> To satisfy my craving.
>
> By the way: I have never 'abused' Curtis. Not the way I have abused
you. So I can demonstrate some discrimination in applying my 35 year-old
Unity Consciousness schtick: which *did* violate the personal space of
other human beings. I have stopped doing that, Barry—some 25 years
ago; but if someone acts the part of the liar and abuser here on FFL,
then why should I not, like everyone else, exercise my prerogative to
answer them? You abused obbajeeba. Judy called you on it. I called you
on it. You were so humiliated by that that you wrote your Amsterdam
Manifesto on Boring and Uninteresting, which I replied to with much brio
and delight. You sought to use your manifest

[FairfieldLife] Eve

[Yifu]

Eve, by Klarwein
http://www.matiklarweinart.com/en/gallery/eve-1963.htm

[FairfieldLife] Time

[Yifu]

Time, by Mati Klarwein
http://www.matiklarweinart.com/en/gallery/time-1965.htm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Flight to Egypt

[futur.musik]

That was fun!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
>
> by Mati Klarwein
> scroll over to zoom in
> 
> http://www.matiklarweinart.com/artworkgallery.php?category=Visionary
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama

[futur.musik]

sure - cool, though not sure I want to live there except in one of the many 
penthouses.

This is a trip around the world in 6,237 pictures:

http://youtu.be/UGnrT0F-Igs

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
>
> thx for the Futuristic-Retro links.  I'll have to check out that genre.
> "Is It Enough" - by Zelinsky:
> http://features.cgsociety.org/newgallerycrits/g23/13/13_1226506169_large.jpg
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik"  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/11/retro-future-to-stars.html
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Dalai Lama, Girl in Bluebell Wood, and others...
> > > 
> > >  http://www.artofimagination.org/Pages/Marlin.html
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Flight to Egypt

[Yifu]

by Mati Klarwein
scroll over to zoom in

http://www.matiklarweinart.com/artworkgallery.php?category=Visionary

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama

[Yifu]

thx for the Futuristic-Retro links.  I'll have to check out that genre.
"Is It Enough" - by Zelinsky:
http://features.cgsociety.org/newgallerycrits/g23/13/13_1226506169_large.jpg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik"  wrote:
>
> http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/11/retro-future-to-stars.html
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
> >
> > Dalai Lama, Girl in Bluebell Wood, and others...
> > 
> >  http://www.artofimagination.org/Pages/Marlin.html
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Women painting women

[Yifu]

Women Painting Women

"Woman with Muskrat Skull" and many others...

http://womenpaintingwomen.blogspot.com/

[FairfieldLife] Compassion (to Robin)

[Emily Reyn]

Dear Robin:  Can you explain this statement below?  I cut it out of the post it 
was in, but think that it can stand on its own without the surrounding context 
of what you were discussing then (the SC quote) - however I may be wrong there. 
 Are you saying simply that *man's existence and behavior* does not demonstrate 
compassion and that *the use of the word* is unwarranted, in this respect (in 
the 21st century)?  Or, are you saying something else?

[Robin: Just my own bias here, Emily, but I find the use of the word
"compassion"—almost in any context inside 21st Century existence—unreal and
unmeaning.] 

Wiki discussion of compassion for different religions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compassion

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama

[futur.musik]

http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/11/retro-future-to-stars.html

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
>
> Dalai Lama, Girl in Bluebell Wood, and others...
> 
>  http://www.artofimagination.org/Pages/Marlin.html
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[Emily Reyn]

Er, Judy, do not second guess the perfection of your original post here - it 
was divine, I must say.  Now, please, have pity on us incoherants and do 
consult with the Others and get back to us, as time and intention dictate. We 
are, after all, waiting for something new and worthy to "obsess on."  Ho ho ho. 
   

P.S.  I won't hold my breath :)



 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:38 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:

> (MZ, front and center, please. I'd like a word with you. No,
> just leave the harp where you found it. You don't know how
> to play it anyway. I'm going to give you something much
> more interesting to play with, something red-hot, heh heh.)

Er, that didn't come out quite the way I meant it. I had in
mind *red-hot coals* to fit with the mise-en-scene here.
Punishment for MZ, IOW. Yoicks.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Incatation

[Yifu]

Sorry. It's "Incantation".
Here's Phedra, by Machalek
http://www.artofimagination.org/Pages/MachalekDetail4.html


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
>
> Incatation, by Jan Machalek
> 
> http://www.artofimagination.org/Pages/MachalekDetail1.html
>

[FairfieldLife] Incatation

[Yifu]

Incatation, by Jan Machalek

http://www.artofimagination.org/Pages/MachalekDetail1.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[Emily Reyn]

Barry, here is my heartfelt and light response to several of your recent posts. 
 Yes, I included a "funny" for you in video format, although not nearly as 
"face value" funny as the Kate Winslet clip re: gender perceptions.  Nor as 
humorous and gentle and as Merudanda's posts.  Mine is focused more on social 
convention as an art :)

For context of my post, consider that perhaps some or many FFL participants are 
giving similar treatment to all members in acknowledging and witnessing their 
posts as being written by human beings; of participating in a conversation; of 
expressing and sharing different points of view; of serving as entertainment or 
provoking thought with regard to the topics discussed; or aiding in 
understanding the human condition and ourselves better.

IMO, you misconstrued (and changed the reality) of Obba's email to you by 
representing it as a "whiny plea for attention from you" and you would also 
have your readers believe that you were being "compassionate" in your response. 
 Is that how you were feeling about the "dreck?"  I thought you were angry.  
It's O.K. - we all get angry now and again, Barry, and this is now all in the 
past and the dirty laundry has been aired out..  

Barry, do you really think that all of us who respond to you, who you don't 
like, or who you continually put down, are just "looking for attention from 
you?" And you go even further in assuming this (and I read you here at face 
value as you seem so intent on making this point): 

"But *THEY* are so obsessed with me that *they read every 
word of every one of my posts*. They probably read them 
multiple times, trying to work up enough faux outrage and
hatred to fuel a stinging reply. 

Seems to me that obsession is its own reward. They're 
trapped in a samskaric cycle that they cannot escape from.
They're in EXACTLY the position they want *me* to be in,
but which they cannot achieve. They have to sit there and 
read every word I write, whether about them, or about 
anything else.

As Ravi might say, they're my bitches. :-)

And they will continue to be as long as they continue
obsessing on me..."

You are most definitely not "prescient", IMHO.  Could you have predicted that 
in Ravi's absence, you would choose to assume this part of his internet 
character where you now refer to *THEY* that read your posts and respond to you 
in ways that offend you as obsessed with you and your "bitches?"  So funny, 
Barry, you must see the humor in this, n'est-ce pas?  I hope you weren't 
serious.  You just have been presenting in such a depressed manner of late 
(IMO), I'm not sure anymore.

Barry, you so undersell yourself herethink better of yourself, man.  In the 
context you wrote it, why assume that the only reason I might read you, for 
example, is because I am "obsessing" on you?  Was it meant as a put-down to 
your readers that don't always agree with you? It says more about your own 
self-worth.  Maybe I think you may have something to say that could be 
"interesting," regardless of whether I appreciate all of your posts all the 
time, and regardless of whether I comment back to you in ways you don't always 
like. 

And, this statement below from another of your posts is also truly amazing 
coming out of your mouth.  Why are you here?  What is the payoff of staying 
here?  You could easily correspond offline with those people you deem worth 
reading - why suffer here year after year?  There is a reason, Barry, and I 
hope you continue to stay until you figure it out.  Barry, IMHO, you don't see 
"trends" - how can you when you only look at some of the data? You don't see 
"the forest through the trees" - how can you when you are so far in the forest 
yourself on a daily basis?  If you were to decide to take a few weeks off, or 
even maybe one, or maybe even a few days, you might be able to walk
 out far enough
 or climb far enough up in a tall tree to get a different perspective on FFL, 
as a whole and also on its participants. Again, you are undermining your own 
choices and yourself badly, IMO.  

"If I had to recommend to a young person what might be better
for their evolution -- hanging out on an Internet movie
forum or hanging out on a spiritual forum -- I'd have
to go with movies. You meet a nicer class of people."

And speaking of funny, because in your rant on "interesting and not 
interesting" you give yourself an *out* at the end by saying that "funny 
overrides everything,"  
here you go.  Will this override everything and warrant a read?  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81szj1vpEu8&feature=youtu.be

THE END of my long and "obsessive" post to you (as I'm sure you will 
characterize it), boring to the very end.  Even though I am compassionately 
trying to get through to you on a couple of things.  But, not to worry, I wrote 
it for myself as much as for you, Barry, and I will likely continue to read 
your posts, because your participation in FFL is part of the gig and I am an 
equal-oppor

[FairfieldLife] Dalai Lama

[Yifu]

Dalai Lama, Girl in Bluebell Wood, and others...

 http://www.artofimagination.org/Pages/Marlin.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Russian Within

[futur.musik]

Magritte rip-off.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
>
> by Catherine McCartney
> 
> http://www.artofimagination.org/Pages/McCartneyRussianwithin.html
>

[FairfieldLife] The Russian Within

[Yifu]

by Catherine McCartney

http://www.artofimagination.org/Pages/McCartneyRussianwithin.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[Susan]

Obba,
I think it is sometimes difficult to understand whether you are serious, or 
joking. And also to understand the main point of some of your posts.  Don't 
take the replies to heart.  After all the drama and back and forth of the past 
week, we need a break.  I know I am a bit irritable and sensitive, and I 
imagine you are and Barry is too, along with everyone else.

So my suggestion is, if you can, to let this issue go and forget any words that 
upset you. Just be genuine and be yourself.  Relax.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Dear Mr. Barry Turq,
>   I must consider the most important line of what I wrote below that was 
> deserving of your attention, if any, that you responded with your below 
> strange angry mood, below this post too,  and this comes from my first 
> paragraph in what you so attacked with as my needing to get a life, and you 
> must have missed it in your quick read through, a post you found boring and 
> uninteresting: 
> 
> " If the regular life as those who do not sit on forums was so full of 
> excitement, this would not matter."
> 
> This obviously mattered to you, because you are projecting your own life?
>  I was only trying to rescue you. 
>   I was reaching out to you. 
>I was trying to talk doggie talk, the language you are so cuddly with, 
> because dogs give unconditional love and licks and wags as long as "Master," 
> feeds them. The dog owner, the controller of what he can not get from either 
> male or female human, by touch of the skin, caress or kiss. 
> 
> The matter, came to one who does only sit on forums and is not exciting in 
> anyway, I am sure. Woof, woof, woof.
> 
>   All that mattered, was that one line, and you took the bait and showed your 
> inner selfish love for your self only, and wishing to stay that way till the 
> day you leave the earth as if life was already in doggie heaven. You are in 
> the dog house.  Mr. Meany.  
> I thought you had better awareness as you judge me for some TM branding you 
> created about me, not even knowing if I actually do it or not, based on what 
> I say on this board. You labeled me and that is not nice. 
> Bummer. I really thought you were a nice fellow overtaken by cult tendencies, 
> beliefs and they are still there, because you are gullible to any or all and 
> that is why you attacked me.  You do not trust anyone to be your friend 
> unless they praise you and sit at your heels. 
> Think about it. I want an apology, please.  
>   My eyes were swollen almost shut and the pretty blues were surrounded by 
> pink, puffy stuff. 
>   It was good for me to be near my last post at the time, it gave me time to 
> think and reflect, a spanking from Mr. Turq, and on how you attacked me for 
> no reason and that is what I am thankful for.
>   I had to reread what I wrote to see why you were so mean. 
> That one line,
> 
>  " If the regular life as those who do not sit on forums was so full of 
> excitement, this would not matter."
> 
> mattered to you. 
> 
> ...Mattered so much, you went on and on about Judy, and the MaskedZebra 
> standing up to you about your, "non-matter," of my post as I was on my 49th 
> post for the week, kick'em when they're down. 
> 
> Have a nice day. 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > If you need attention (or even entertainment) so desperately 
> > that you feel it's appropriate to write all this dreck, get
> > it from someone else. I find that level of neediness a total
> > turnoff, both in real life and in surreal cyberspace. 
> > 
> > Advice? Get a life, then write about it. Living vicariously 
> > on the lives of others is so TM. 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not like some dudes on this forum who piss the spot with 
> > > > > > > complete teeth grinding bark, protection for their red 
> > > > > > > fire hydrant in multiple layers of consciousness available 
> > > > > > > if only to break through their awareness as something more 
> > > > > > > that tangible, all muddled together 75 foot lead wall with 
> > > > > > > dancing football cheerleaders in cowboy lingerie. 
> > > > > > > Nabby not included. He has some morals about morals.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Let me guess. You've been taking the same "How To
> > > > > > Write Completely Incoherent English" correspondence
> > > > > > course that MZ, Ravi, and Bob Price took, right?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > For me, the thought/concern/problem was the the writing 
> > > > > just might be an accurate reflection of the thinking process!  
> > > > 
> > > > My point exactly.
> > > 
> > > S

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interdimensional Predator

[futur.musik]

I haven't seen that guy...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
>
> by Greg Petchkovsky
> 
> http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=317072&utm_source=cgsociety&utm_medium=cgchoice&utm_term=317072
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pragmatic knowledge, or stuff, in translating languages!

[Alex Stanley]

I can't top that.  :)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam"  wrote:
>
> Served with a tossed salad, of course.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Jan 13, 2012, at 5:23 PM, jpgillam wrote:
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > A blog entry headline on a US Newspaper's website:
> > > > 
> > > > Santorum surges from behind in Iowa
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/136347948.html
> > > 
> > > Part of me suspects it was a very mischievous copy editor 
> > > behind that headline. Hope so, anyway. 
> > 
> > 
> > I had an idea I would have liked to have seen implemented in Iowa:
> > 
> > A breakfast special, The Santorum.
> > 
> > The Santorum consists of a donut shaped biscuit, smothered in sausage gravy.
> > 
> > It would be cheap…but you'd definitely be scared to eat it.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Interdimensional Predator

[Yifu]

by Greg Petchkovsky

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=317072&utm_source=cgsociety&utm_medium=cgchoice&utm_term=317072

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jewel World

[futur.musik]

A painted dream!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu"  wrote:
>
> by Carol Spicuzza
> 
> http://www.artofimagination.org/Pages/SpicuzzaDetail2.html
>

[FairfieldLife] Jewel World

[Yifu]

by Carol Spicuzza

http://www.artofimagination.org/Pages/SpicuzzaDetail2.html

[FairfieldLife] Top Five (fairly) New Discoveries

[futur.musik]

1. RC helicopters
Completely fun, flying a craft around in 3D. They are fragile - learning curve 
is easily five of them, mine was probably ten, but they are cheap, $20 each.

2. Navan
Developed as a response to the Hip Hop crowd's favoring cognac, the House of 
Grand Marnier came out with a vanilla flavored cognac that is amazing, rich, 
sweet and packed with the flavor of vanilla. Also, Meukow produces a great 
alternative, a lighter recipe, in a frosted bottle with the bas relief of a 
panther wrapping around it. 

3. Aquarius restaurant
I am not a foodie, but this place is the restaurant attached to the thrice 
remodeled Dream Inn in Santa Cruz, with floor to ceiling glass overlooking 
Cowells Beach and the Pacific and the Wharf. Who cares about the food? I had an 
omelette.

4. XK8 clutchless shifting
Recently I got a 97' Jag XK8, a coupe with a 290hp V8 and a smooth 6 speed 
German transmission. The transmission is in a configuration called a J-Gate, 
because on the left side of the automatic functions, you can shift over to 
having clutchless control regarding shifts to 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. The engine 
doesn't redline until 6800 rpm, so when you are going less than 150 it is 
loafing. In my best Spanish, it is mucho funno.

5. The Tuareg band, Tinawaren
Found a CD of these guys when I went to an exhibit at Stanford on the Tuareq. 
Slightly electrified tribal with the sound of the desert.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[Emily Reyn]

Steve.  Pull up, pull out...I think I might see a ray of lightbut, come on 
Steveyou have a *BIG* heart, I know you do...look how upset you were about 
Ravi's dismissal...after all.  Here's Madonna for you.  She's in white.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyBQ0MDDcCQ&feature=related




 From: seventhray1 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:15 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
 

  
Let me reply as I go through.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
>
> Dear Steve,
> 
> You see what a beautiful rose has flowered from your last post. Your weakness 
> has been perfectly exploited, and the post which you see here from Amsterdam 
> is the offspring of your Inspector Clouseau—Neville Chamberlain approach to 
> these disputes.  You already have me smiling with these references.
> 
> Barry is one tricky dude, that's for sure. Poor obbajeeba. She now knows that 
> Barry acted with justice. I hope she realizes this.
> 
> The sadism, it has made you a pawn, and this is only inevitable, given your 
> refusal to call that nun a burglar when even the judge declared, based on the 
> evidence, she was guilty of stealing your mother's jewellery.
This is a good point.  I do seem to have a blind spot in that regard.  FTR, it 
was the detective who coaxed a confession out of her.  Her date with the judge 
is coming up. 
> No, Barry is much worse than I thought. But I can thank you, Steve, for 
> drawing him out like this.
> 
> Obviously he has made his case. Now go back to his post to obbajeeba, read it 
> carefully from beginning to end; then read Judy's post; after that my first 
> post to Barry; and finally read the post to which Barry is referring here, 
> which, according to him, *he has not read*.
> 
> I think it best just to give him his rightful influence at FFL—even as he, 
> most despicably has refused to speak to me directly, or make his case inside 
> the context of a counter-argument which takes me on personally.
> 
> He is the subtlest liar there could be. And everything, down to the last 
> nuance, is, in this post addressed to you, deceitful and manipulative—but 
> very inspired.
> 
> This level of bullshit, it leaves everyone, or almost everyone, with their 
> head spinning. As it will yours. You see, Steve, Barry has taken the hard and 
> categorical position vis-a-vis myself that you in principle refuse to or 
> cannot take. You should take your cues from him. For he has finally committed 
> himself all the way.
> 
> You now can't have it both ways. Either you argue with Barry the way you have 
> argued with me—which you will not do; or if you make the half-hearted attempt 
> to do so, Barry will just have contempt for you. As he does even now. 
Robin, I will be completely honest.  I pull my punches with both of you.  And 
that is all I will say on that for now. 
> You have allowed yourself to be used, Stevie Baby. And he looked upon his 
> works. And he saw that it was good.
How about as Shakespeare in Julies Caesar might say, "And Barry is an 
h-o-n-o-r-a-b-l-e man".  I couldn't resist that.  Apropos of nothing  
> This is on one level great fun; on another level it is politics that goes 
> well past poor little Nicolo.
> 
> You will have to come down, finally, on one side or the other, Steve.
> 
> From strictly a human standpoint I deem this long post by Barry Wright to be 
> devoid of human feeling, and to be deliberately and cunningly conceived out 
> of pure malice and deceit. But to perceive this, well, I guess you'd have to 
> hate Barry as much as I do.
Yes, I thought Barry's reply to Obbajeeba was a little harsh, but that's Barry 
- often.  I mean, even Curtis has called him on this sometimes.  In particular 
in one instance when he was harsh in responding to you.  But, I mean, so what.  
Is this a capital offense?  
> Lovely man, Barry. And I am only saying this because he has, gentle FFL 
> reader, refuted me up and down. And this, by cracky, hurts.
> 
> As you can imagine.
> 
> Barry has found your weakness, Steve, and he has put it to use big-time. If 
> Barry is who I think he is, then you have just received all the proof you 
> need of the stupidity and blindness of a particular aspect of your modus 
> operandi.
Okay, confession time.  I had my astrological chart done by Hart Defoe around 
25 years ago, and he said I was a slow processor.  And of course as recently as 
just last week, I was declared to be a "pea brained heartland retard".  At 
least I wasn't called a "heartless retard".  Now that might have hurt. 
> By the way, unless you can testify to me that you have read obbajeeba's post 
> to Barry; Barry's response to obbajeeba; Judy's response to Barry's post to 
> obbajeeba; then my first response to Barry; then my second response to Barry; 
> and finally, my open letter to Ravi (#4), I will not be saying another word 
> to you.
Ouch!.  Does 3-1/2 out

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[obbajeeba]

Dear Mr. Barry Turq,
  I must consider the most important line of what I wrote below that was 
deserving of your attention, if any, that you responded with your below strange 
angry mood, below this post too,  and this comes from my first paragraph in 
what you so attacked with as my needing to get a life, and you must have missed 
it in your quick read through, a post you found boring and uninteresting: 

" If the regular life as those who do not sit on forums was so full of 
excitement, this would not matter."

This obviously mattered to you, because you are projecting your own life?
 I was only trying to rescue you. 
  I was reaching out to you. 
   I was trying to talk doggie talk, the language you are so cuddly with, 
because dogs give unconditional love and licks and wags as long as "Master," 
feeds them. The dog owner, the controller of what he can not get from either 
male or female human, by touch of the skin, caress or kiss. 

The matter, came to one who does only sit on forums and is not exciting in 
anyway, I am sure. Woof, woof, woof.

  All that mattered, was that one line, and you took the bait and showed your 
inner selfish love for your self only, and wishing to stay that way till the 
day you leave the earth as if life was already in doggie heaven. You are in the 
dog house.  Mr. Meany.  
I thought you had better awareness as you judge me for some TM branding you 
created about me, not even knowing if I actually do it or not, based on what I 
say on this board. You labeled me and that is not nice. 
Bummer. I really thought you were a nice fellow overtaken by cult tendencies, 
beliefs and they are still there, because you are gullible to any or all and 
that is why you attacked me.  You do not trust anyone to be your friend unless 
they praise you and sit at your heels. 
Think about it. I want an apology, please.  
  My eyes were swollen almost shut and the pretty blues were surrounded by 
pink, puffy stuff. 
  It was good for me to be near my last post at the time, it gave me time to 
think and reflect, a spanking from Mr. Turq, and on how you attacked me for no 
reason and that is what I am thankful for.
  I had to reread what I wrote to see why you were so mean. 
That one line,

 " If the regular life as those who do not sit on forums was so full of 
excitement, this would not matter."

mattered to you. 

...Mattered so much, you went on and on about Judy, and the MaskedZebra 
standing up to you about your, "non-matter," of my post as I was on my 49th 
post for the week, kick'em when they're down. 

Have a nice day. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> If you need attention (or even entertainment) so desperately 
> that you feel it's appropriate to write all this dreck, get
> it from someone else. I find that level of neediness a total
> turnoff, both in real life and in surreal cyberspace. 
> 
> Advice? Get a life, then write about it. Living vicariously 
> on the lives of others is so TM. 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not like some dudes on this forum who piss the spot with 
> > > > > > complete teeth grinding bark, protection for their red 
> > > > > > fire hydrant in multiple layers of consciousness available 
> > > > > > if only to break through their awareness as something more 
> > > > > > that tangible, all muddled together 75 foot lead wall with 
> > > > > > dancing football cheerleaders in cowboy lingerie. 
> > > > > > Nabby not included. He has some morals about morals.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Let me guess. You've been taking the same "How To
> > > > > Write Completely Incoherent English" correspondence
> > > > > course that MZ, Ravi, and Bob Price took, right?
> > > > > 
> > > > > :-)
> > > > 
> > > > For me, the thought/concern/problem was the the writing 
> > > > just might be an accurate reflection of the thinking process!  
> > > 
> > > My point exactly.
> > 
> > Since this post is the last of two for this week, and this may turn out 
> > rather long because of that as mentioned in the beginning of this sentence, 
> >  I wish to ask Mr. Turq for some advice. The thinking process could be 
> > upset and that is the purpose and intent of the write. If the regular life 
> > as those who do not sit on forums was so full of excitement, this would not 
> > matter. I find your concern for me, Mr. Turq, a bit appreciating to my 
> > jilted mind. 
> > 
> > Maybe you have some tantric remedy to offer or share as relief for such 
> > supply of need? 
> > 
> > Losing Ravi from here and Emily posting out and Mr. Price and wife 
> > disappearing and the MaskedZoro ignoring me, well, maybe I did lose it a 
> > bit since my i

[FairfieldLife] Transfigurations

[Yifu]

Alex Grey's famous painting, "Transfigurations"

http://www.artofimagination.org/Pages/Grey.html

[FairfieldLife] Vlindervlucht

[Yifu]

by Connie Ekkers

http://www.artofimagination.org/Pages/EkkerVlindervlucht.html

[FairfieldLife] featuring Herman Smorenburg

[Yifu]

http://www.artofimagination.org/Pages/Smorenburg.html

[FairfieldLife] Maya

[Yifu]

by Wim Kuenen
on MMY's (and others) - "that which is not", the NOT entity referred to is Maya 
having an independent existence, "in-itself". But the false notion of this 
truth can be called illusory. (thus, Wiki's usage of the term "illusory" 
several dozens of times).
http://prema.exto.nl/kunstwerk/311175_next.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Revelation and Conversion

[Emily Reyn]

Within the week this was composed, and after reading it several times, each 
time wearing a different pair of multi-colored glasses, I must say that this 
exchange is the epitome of FFL loveliness.  *So* well constructed, that even if 
the "names were changed to protect the innocent," it is still brilliantly 
comedic and otherworldly and worldly all at the same time.  My week off from 
FFL started with an absolute *fit* of joyful laughter.  

I was at a Seattle symphony event this week - Joshua Bell was visiting and 
played the solo for this orchestral piece.

"The first movement, for all its violinistic diablerie, is tinged with an 
undercurrent of melancholy assuaged by its abundant melodic charm.  It begins 
with a virtual dialogue between the soloist and the orchestra before the 
virtuosic side of the music is given its ample moment." - Seattle Symphony 
program 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jASjfzFNUUU


Whew!  If the violin/orchestra doesn't bring joy to one's heart (it can be an 
acquired taste), there is always this favorite tune from the *Spinners*.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPl68mhgxbM


Thank you Robin and Judy for this...and the follow-up conversation was pretty 
fantabulous as well.  



  






 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, January 6, 2012 5:09 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Revelation and Conversion
 

  
Traitor. Turncoat.

After working with me for 17 years now to discredit
Barry, staying discreetly behind the scenes until
just recently, you've decided to switch sides.

Or were you on his side all along, acting as a double
agent, setting me up for this odious betrayal?

That was the plan all along, wasn't it?

It all becomes clear to me now. Your masters trained
you well in the art of deception; I never suspected.

But it hardly matters. The damage you've done with
this post is well-nigh irreparable. Almost two decades
of exhausting labor to counter everything Barry says,
even what he says outside the context of TM, everything
his *allies* say, straight down the tubes.

I imagine you're pretty proud of yourself right about
now. "For in the end, I assure you, Barry will be
vindicated."

Yes, you've bloody well made sure of that, haven't you?

"Barry is the martyr here."

No, *Judy* is the martyr here. But her blood, her
sweat, her toil, her unswerving devotion to the cause, 
will not go unavenged. Enjoy your moment of triumph, 
for it will not, it cannot last.

"Would you even just for the sake of how much I have
defended you in the past, think about what I have said 
here?"

Yes, I most certainly will think about it. And so will 
others, the Others for whom I've been tirelessly 
working, whose power is more vast than you dream. You 
may be certain they've taken note of your perfidy, and 
there will be, not a reconciliation, as you so fondly 
imagine, but a showdown and a reckoning. Your masters 
have overreached themselves and in so doing wrought 
their own destruction.

Count on it...and tremble.

OR (your choice):

I grovel here before you, the bitter dust of
humiliation filling my mouth as I struggle to 
formulate the words of my repentance.

"There are none so blind as those who will not see."
That was me, right up until the moment I read this 
post.

I am still blinded, but now by the light, the blessed 
light of Truth.

I dare not hope for reconciliation; my sins have been 
too great for that. I can only pray that those whom I 
have so grievously misled through my own hubris will 
understand and accept what you have laid out before 
them at such personal cost and repudiate the Cult of 
Judy. For it is dead; Robin has slain it.

Robin, I cannot express my boundless gratitude for
the selflessness of the holy work you have just
accomplished here. In the pain with which it has
seared my very soul may others find sweet release.

Now let us all together, cleansed of our hatred and 
joined in our determination to march forth into
sanctified renewal, repeat the beautiful prayer the
Devoted Brother Vaj has composed for us on this
awesome occasion:

Hail Barry, full of Grace, Blessed be the fruit of his 
thumbs.

Can I get an -MEN?

Hallelujah!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
>
> In withdrawing from FFL I have had time to reflect upon my history there and 
> the characters I have interacted with.
> 
> It will perhaps come as a shock to some, but in reading Barry more closely 
> and without the intense bias that has gripped me right from the start when 
> Barry appeared to make himself immune to the effects of my posts, I have 
> concluded that essentially Barry is right. Right not just about Judy; but 
> right about even myself. Barry is arguing from a point of view which I have 
> up until very recently been unable to accept—even tolerate. And this was of 
> course because of his refusal to take me seriously in what I said in all my 
> posts. For Barry, these were tedious, narcissis

[FairfieldLife] Levana - Guardian Angel

[Yifu]

by Wim Kuenen
http://prema.exto.nl/kunstwerk/12576833_LEVANA.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy January 12th

[futur.musik]

I found myself speaking with him the other evening. Must've been the 
cognac...;-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik"  wrote:
> >
> > A very clear thinker - from this comes a movement which provides millions 
> > with a technique for realization. Happy (belated) Birthday to Maharishi! 
> > 
> > Thank you again for the life changing techniques of TM and TMSP, and the 
> > engineering ability to take this fragile technique and spread it world 
> > wide. Jai Maharishi.
> 
> 
> Jai Maharishi !
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[futur.musik]

Ha-ha! but of course the FBI would have nothing to do with "valve job".

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
> >
> > You saw nothing, Vaj. Because you were not there. Not one person living 
> > will testify to your physical presence at one of those seminars. And you 
> > cannot furnish a single personalized and particular memory which would 
> > verify and substantiate this claim of yours. You are bearing false witness. 
> > What reason do I have to deny what is the truth? There must be 300 persons 
> > out there in the world who can present evidence of what happened in those 
> > seminars. But you can't, because you did not go through the experience. 
> > Sooner or later someone will speak up about their recollection of those 
> > days—and as soon as they do, I will immediately recognize they have 
> > provided the requisite evidence of the truthfulness of their testimony. 
> > This is a striptease you are performing, Vaj, but you see, you never 
> > actually take off any part of your clothes. Produce the goods, Vaj, because 
> > sooner or later someone else *will*, and then you will have nothing to say 
> > in this regard, because I will remember this person. And they will thus be 
> > accorded the authority that you can never acquire.
> > 
> > Believe me, Vaj, anyone who was there would never write in the way you have 
> > here. 
> > 
> > And finally: I have repudiated the entire principle and context at the 
> > basis of those seminars. I have renounced my enlightenment. And I have gone 
> > a very long ways towards atoning for whatever I did during those ten years 
> > for which I must held accountable. My personal culpability.
> > 
> > I must suppose you cannot help yourself in this, Vaj. But how I wish you 
> > would do something to dispel this perfect impression you give of the 
> > unbelievability of all of your claims: about TM, about Maharishi, and about 
> > myself.
> > 
> > When it comes to TM, Maharishi, and those seminars, second-hand knowledge 
> > just will not do. *You had to be there*. No one who went through that 
> > experience could, even if they tried, produce the lack of credibility that 
> > you do in everything you say about me, about TM, and about Maharishi.
> > 
> > But this is especially true of the seminars, because the experience there 
> > was unforgettable. Ineffaceable. A particular and concrete memory you have, 
> > Vaj: I would wish so much for you to give this to me. But alas, you cannot, 
> > and until you do I will just have to keep calling you out for what you are 
> > doing here at FFL.
> 
> 
> He can't for the simple reason he was not there. The bits and pieces he has 
> collected, including the odd picture, is from the FBI files.
> He is on their payroll, but you knew that already.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy January 12th

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik"  wrote:
>
> A very clear thinker - from this comes a movement which provides millions 
> with a technique for realization. Happy (belated) Birthday to Maharishi! 
> 
> Thank you again for the life changing techniques of TM and TMSP, and the 
> engineering ability to take this fragile technique and spread it world wide. 
> Jai Maharishi.


Jai Maharishi !

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy January 12th

[futur.musik]

A very clear thinker - from this comes a movement which provides millions with 
a technique for realization. Happy (belated) Birthday to Maharishi! 

Thank you again for the life changing techniques of TM and TMSP, and the 
engineering ability to take this fragile technique and spread it world wide. 
Jai Maharishi.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> 
> Happy January 12th
> 
>  
> 
> Description: MMY JC
> 
>  
> 
> Maharishi's Message to Peaceless and Sufferings
> 
> (Handwritten text on the inside cover of "Beacon Light of the Himalayas"
> published in 1955)
> 
> Oh ye of the peace less and suffering humanity!
> 
> My happiness desires to root out your suffering. Will you extend your arm
> and allow me to lift you up from the mire of misery and peacelessness?
> 
> Come on, here is the call of peace and joy for you. Here is an invitation, a
> cordial invitation for you all to come and enjoy the blissful Grace and All
> Powerful Blessings of my Lord the Great Swami Brahmanand Saraswati, the
> Great among the greats of the Himalayas. I have found a treasure in the Dust
> of His Lotus Feet and now I invite you to share it with me and make yourself
> happy.
> 
> Come on; I invite you to get into the Blissful Realm of His Universal
> Benevolence. See, the path is straight and entry is free. Come on with faith
> and you will find that the very cause of your peacelessness and misery will
> be eradicated and you will be adorned with lasting peace and real happiness
> in your day-to-day life.
> 
> Feel not disappointment in life and shirk not from your responsibilities in
> despair whatever are your circumstances, rich or poor, if you are not in
> peace and if you want peace and happiness, come on with faith and you will
> have it. Here is the message of hope for you. Here is the Divine call of
> rescue for you. Peace and joy of living await you. Do not reject it. Come on
> and have it.
> 
> The sun of Guru Deva's Blessings is now up on the horizon. Wake up from the
> deep slumber of apathy and agony and enjoy all glories of life material and
> divine. 
> 
> ~ Bal Brahmachari Mahesh, 20 Nov. 1955
> 
> Jaya Guru Deva
> 
>  
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Our Lady of Naju miracles

[Yifu]

featuring Julia Kim, a self-styled "Saint" (not recognized officially by the 
Catholic Church); having the telltale marks such as the Stigmata and the 
ability to see into people's Souls.
http://www.marypages.com/NajuKorea.htm
...
Various miracles have been reported in Naju such as:
Miraculous appearance of the Hosts descending from Heaven
Healings
The Miraculous Healing Water
Manifestations associated with Julia Kim, such as the incident in which - 
witnessed by the last Pope - the Host on her tongue transformed into bloody 
flesh.
...
[an interesting case of cannibalism! Could this be called "Vulture 
Catholocism"...as opposed to Romney's "Vulture Capitalism"].

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[Yifu]

Fine, but there are 3 parts to becomming a Christian: 1. repentance and by 
Atonement 2. Sin no more (Buck is working on a list of sins that you can refer 
to) 3. Accepting Jesus as your Savior, which takes care of the Atonement part 
since His Sacrifice is a once and for all Substitute for our 
transgressions(unless one is Catholic in which case the Atonement is an 
ongoing process of guilt-ridden works and observances which ultimately may 
qualify you for Purgatory and ultimately the Paradisethe Kingdom.
...
However, if you take the Catholic route, the Atonement part would also include 
"works" and the Sacraments. (Luther of course differed on this part).
...
In any event, I have yet to see the "I accept Jesus as my Personal Savior" 
part. This should be accompanied by plenty of Tebowing and writing "Jn 3-16" on 
your tee shirts for all to see.
...
On another topic, it may interest you to know that Concrete, WA (NW Washington 
State, 30 miles from Bellingham); is reported by Ben Collins of Puja.net as 
being the Center of the Known Universe.
http://bencollins.net/journal/2011/6/7/the-center-of-the-universe.html 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
>
> You saw nothing, Vaj. Because you were not there. Not one person living will 
> testify to your physical presence at one of those seminars. And you cannot 
> furnish a single personalized and particular memory which would verify and 
> substantiate this claim of yours. You are bearing false witness. What reason 
> do I have to deny what is the truth? There must be 300 persons out there in 
> the world who can present evidence of what happened in those seminars. But 
> you can't, because you did not go through the experience. Sooner or later 
> someone will speak up about their recollection of those days—and as soon as 
> they do, I will immediately recognize they have provided the requisite 
> evidence of the truthfulness of their testimony. This is a striptease you are 
> performing, Vaj, but you see, you never actually take off any part of your 
> clothes. Produce the goods, Vaj, because sooner or later someone else *will*, 
> and then you will have nothing to say in this regard, because I will remember 
> this person. And they will thus be accorded the authority that you can never 
> acquire.
> 
> Believe me, Vaj, anyone who was there would never write in the way you have 
> here. 
> 
> And finally: I have repudiated the entire principle and context at the basis 
> of those seminars. I have renounced my enlightenment. And I have gone a very 
> long ways towards atoning for whatever I did during those ten years for which 
> I must held accountable. My personal culpability.
> 
> I must suppose you cannot help yourself in this, Vaj. But how I wish you 
> would do something to dispel this perfect impression you give of the 
> unbelievability of all of your claims: about TM, about Maharishi, and about 
> myself.
> 
> When it comes to TM, Maharishi, and those seminars, second-hand knowledge 
> just will not do. *You had to be there*. No one who went through that 
> experience could, even if they tried, produce the lack of credibility that 
> you do in everything you say about me, about TM, and about Maharishi.
> 
> But this is especially true of the seminars, because the experience there was 
> unforgettable. Ineffaceable. A particular and concrete memory you have, Vaj: 
> I would wish so much for you to give this to me. But alas, you cannot, and 
> until you do I will just have to keep calling you out for what you are doing 
> here at FFL.
> 
> Still, I appreciated those two posts of yours awhile back.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Jan 13, 2012, at 1:13 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
> > 
> > > Barry: Back in the Bad Old Days, RWC would drag his followers up
> > > on stage and yell at them (and possibly even strike them),
> > > "pointing out their weaknesses" and telling them exactly
> > > what kinds of demons were possessing them.
> > > 
> > > Robin: This is a crude and misinformed and inaccurate description of what 
> > > went on between 1976 and 1986. I never once struck someone on stage.
> > 
> > Well, that's not what I saw. I cannot say it is accurate that you were 
> > "beating" them, but it would be accurate to say you were pounding them with 
> > clenched fists as if in total exasperation and frustration.
> > 
> > > If you read Rory's account from his autobiography you get the very 
> > > essence of metaphysical theatre that I acted out under my enlightenment. 
> > > Although not nearly the whole picture. Someone who has a mature and 
> > > unbiased perspective—who was there—will eventually speak out on this 
> > > forum I hope, and then we can hear the other side, which will be 
> > > critical, but will not resemble in the least the description given here.
> > 
> > I don't know what you'd want us to say? After all, it was not one of the 
> > things you'd remember by your constant r

[FairfieldLife] What A Week

[futur.musik]

What a week on FFL – Robin, your posts as always sing a dynamic tune of 
coherent reality. I have read each one enjoyably, happily traveling along to 
wherever they lead, knowing that I will never be led astray logically. Thanks!

And Barry, I feel sorry for Obba – she is an insightful, sweet and refreshing 
presence here, and what you said to her was cruel, and hateful. As much as I 
have openly insulted you, I have been very reluctant to apply the label sadist 
to you. Sadism is an incomprehensible psychological reality for me; that 
someone could get so far away from the pure flame within themselves, that they 
would *relish* hurting someone sweet and innocent.

This wasn't the garden variety FFL pissing contest, or tit for tat that I have 
participated in. This was different, and really ugly. I am not bringing it up 
to cast aspersions on you Barry. It goes much deeper than that. This sickens me 
and saddens me. 

I must confess that sometimes when I have responded to you, I see in my mind's 
eye a small frightened boy, eight or nine years old (?), within you. I am not 
making fun of you Barry, and this is not a gleeful perception of mine. I see 
your fragility, pain and rejection in that young child, and I hope you see it 
and deal with it too, in a healthy and liberating way.

But you haven't yet. Hurting others deliberately who are innocent of anything 
other than befriending you as Obba was doing, is a really sub-human way to act. 
Your family would be ashamed of you. 

Mean people suck.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[seventhray1]

Let me reply as I go through.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
>
> Dear Steve,
>
> You see what a beautiful rose has flowered from your last post. Your
weakness has been perfectly exploited, and the post which you see here
from Amsterdam is the offspring of your Inspector Clouseau—Neville
Chamberlain approach to these disputes.  You already have me smiling
with these references.
>
> Barry is one tricky dude, that's for sure. Poor obbajeeba. She now
knows that Barry acted with justice. I hope she realizes this.
>
> The sadism, it has made you a pawn, and this is only inevitable, given
your refusal to call that nun a burglar when even the judge declared,
based on the evidence, she was guilty of stealing your mother's
jewellery.

This is a good point.  I do seem to have a blind spot in that regard. 
FTR, it was the detective who coaxed a confession out of her.  Her date
with the judge is coming up.
> No, Barry is much worse than I thought. But I can thank you, Steve,
for drawing him out like this.
>
> Obviously he has made his case. Now go back to his post to obbajeeba,
read it carefully from beginning to end; then read Judy's post; after
that my first post to Barry; and finally read the post to which Barry is
referring here, which, according to him, *he has not read*.
>
> I think it best just to give him his rightful influence at
FFL—even as he, most despicably has refused to speak to me directly,
or make his case inside the context of a counter-argument which takes me
on personally.
>
> He is the subtlest liar there could be. And everything, down to the
last nuance, is, in this post addressed to you, deceitful and
manipulative—but very inspired.
>
> This level of bullshit, it leaves everyone, or almost everyone, with
their head spinning. As it will yours. You see, Steve, Barry has taken
the hard and categorical position vis-a-vis myself that you in principle
refuse to or cannot take. You should take your cues from him. For he has
finally committed himself all the way.
>
> You now can't have it both ways. Either you argue with Barry the way
you have argued with me—which you will not do; or if you make the
half-hearted attempt to do so, Barry will just have contempt for you. As
he does even now.
Robin, I will be completely honest.  I pull my punches with both of you.
And that is all I will say on that for now.
> You have allowed yourself to be used, Stevie Baby. And he looked upon
his works. And he saw that it was good.
How about as Shakespeare in Julies Caesar might say, "And Barry is an
h-o-n-o-r-a-b-l-e man".  I couldn't resist that.  Apropos of nothing
> This is on one level great fun; on another level it is politics that
goes well past poor little Nicolo.
>
> You will have to come down, finally, on one side or the other, Steve.
>
> From strictly a human standpoint I deem this long post by Barry Wright
to be devoid of human feeling, and to be deliberately and cunningly
conceived out of pure malice and deceit. But to perceive this, well, I
guess you'd have to hate Barry as much as I do.
Yes, I thought Barry's reply to Obbajeeba was a little harsh, but that's
Barry - often.  I mean, even Curtis has called him on this sometimes. 
In particular in one instance when he was harsh in responding to you. 
But, I mean, so what.  Is this a capital offense?
> Lovely man, Barry. And I am only saying this because he has, gentle
FFL reader, refuted me up and down. And this, by cracky, hurts.
>
> As you can imagine.
>
> Barry has found your weakness, Steve, and he has put it to use
big-time. If Barry is who I think he is, then you have just received all
the proof you need of the stupidity and blindness of a particular aspect
of your modus operandi.
Okay, confession time.  I had my astrological chart done by Hart Defoe
around 25 years ago, and he said I was a slow processor.  And of course
as recently as just last week, I was declared to be a "pea brained
heartland retard".  At least I wasn't called a "heartless retard".  Now
that might have hurt.
> By the way, unless you can testify to me that you have read
obbajeeba's post to Barry; Barry's response to obbajeeba; Judy's
response to Barry's post to obbajeeba; then my first response to Barry;
then my second response to Barry; and finally, my open letter to Ravi
(#4), I will not be saying another word to you.
Ouch!.  Does 3-1/2 out of 5 count.  (and yes, I did have to use my
fingers)
> Unfortunately for those readers who enjoyed
reading—perhaps—posts by both Barry and Robin you are faced with
an either-or proposition, because Barry has made it thus.
>
> You either go with the good guy—Robin—or you go with the bad
guy—the unsinkable Mr Wright. No other choice, else you will find
yourself attempting to reconcile the irreconcilable.
No, I am going with the unsinkable Molly Brown.  And that is my final
answer.
> It is hard to make one's case when one's enemy chooses never to come
onto the battlefield directly. I wonder if a war could be fought this
w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
>
> You saw nothing, Vaj. Because you were not there. Not one person living will 
> testify to your physical presence at one of those seminars. And you cannot 
> furnish a single personalized and particular memory which would verify and 
> substantiate this claim of yours. You are bearing false witness. What reason 
> do I have to deny what is the truth? There must be 300 persons out there in 
> the world who can present evidence of what happened in those seminars. But 
> you can't, because you did not go through the experience. Sooner or later 
> someone will speak up about their recollection of those days—and as soon as 
> they do, I will immediately recognize they have provided the requisite 
> evidence of the truthfulness of their testimony. This is a striptease you are 
> performing, Vaj, but you see, you never actually take off any part of your 
> clothes. Produce the goods, Vaj, because sooner or later someone else *will*, 
> and then you will have nothing to say in this regard, because I will remember 
> this person. And they will thus be accorded the authority that you can never 
> acquire.
> 
> Believe me, Vaj, anyone who was there would never write in the way you have 
> here. 
> 
> And finally: I have repudiated the entire principle and context at the basis 
> of those seminars. I have renounced my enlightenment. And I have gone a very 
> long ways towards atoning for whatever I did during those ten years for which 
> I must held accountable. My personal culpability.
> 
> I must suppose you cannot help yourself in this, Vaj. But how I wish you 
> would do something to dispel this perfect impression you give of the 
> unbelievability of all of your claims: about TM, about Maharishi, and about 
> myself.
> 
> When it comes to TM, Maharishi, and those seminars, second-hand knowledge 
> just will not do. *You had to be there*. No one who went through that 
> experience could, even if they tried, produce the lack of credibility that 
> you do in everything you say about me, about TM, and about Maharishi.
> 
> But this is especially true of the seminars, because the experience there was 
> unforgettable. Ineffaceable. A particular and concrete memory you have, Vaj: 
> I would wish so much for you to give this to me. But alas, you cannot, and 
> until you do I will just have to keep calling you out for what you are doing 
> here at FFL.


He can't for the simple reason he was not there. The bits and pieces he has 
collected, including the odd picture, is from the FBI files.
He is on their payroll, but you knew that already.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[maskedzebra]

You saw nothing, Vaj. Because you were not there. Not one person living will 
testify to your physical presence at one of those seminars. And you cannot 
furnish a single personalized and particular memory which would verify and 
substantiate this claim of yours. You are bearing false witness. What reason do 
I have to deny what is the truth? There must be 300 persons out there in the 
world who can present evidence of what happened in those seminars. But you 
can't, because you did not go through the experience. Sooner or later someone 
will speak up about their recollection of those days—and as soon as they do, I 
will immediately recognize they have provided the requisite evidence of the 
truthfulness of their testimony. This is a striptease you are performing, Vaj, 
but you see, you never actually take off any part of your clothes. Produce the 
goods, Vaj, because sooner or later someone else *will*, and then you will have 
nothing to say in this regard, because I will remember this person. And they 
will thus be accorded the authority that you can never acquire.

Believe me, Vaj, anyone who was there would never write in the way you have 
here. 

And finally: I have repudiated the entire principle and context at the basis of 
those seminars. I have renounced my enlightenment. And I have gone a very long 
ways towards atoning for whatever I did during those ten years for which I must 
held accountable. My personal culpability.

I must suppose you cannot help yourself in this, Vaj. But how I wish you would 
do something to dispel this perfect impression you give of the unbelievability 
of all of your claims: about TM, about Maharishi, and about myself.

When it comes to TM, Maharishi, and those seminars, second-hand knowledge just 
will not do. *You had to be there*. No one who went through that experience 
could, even if they tried, produce the lack of credibility that you do in 
everything you say about me, about TM, and about Maharishi.

But this is especially true of the seminars, because the experience there was 
unforgettable. Ineffaceable. A particular and concrete memory you have, Vaj: I 
would wish so much for you to give this to me. But alas, you cannot, and until 
you do I will just have to keep calling you out for what you are doing here at 
FFL.

Still, I appreciated those two posts of yours awhile back.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Jan 13, 2012, at 1:13 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
> 
> > Barry: Back in the Bad Old Days, RWC would drag his followers up
> > on stage and yell at them (and possibly even strike them),
> > "pointing out their weaknesses" and telling them exactly
> > what kinds of demons were possessing them.
> > 
> > Robin: This is a crude and misinformed and inaccurate description of what 
> > went on between 1976 and 1986. I never once struck someone on stage.
> 
> Well, that's not what I saw. I cannot say it is accurate that you were 
> "beating" them, but it would be accurate to say you were pounding them with 
> clenched fists as if in total exasperation and frustration.
> 
> > If you read Rory's account from his autobiography you get the very essence 
> > of metaphysical theatre that I acted out under my enlightenment. Although 
> > not nearly the whole picture. Someone who has a mature and unbiased 
> > perspective—who was there—will eventually speak out on this forum I hope, 
> > and then we can hear the other side, which will be critical, but will not 
> > resemble in the least the description given here.
> 
> I don't know what you'd want us to say? After all, it was not one of the 
> things you'd remember by your constant reflection on it. The people, now 
> that's something different, because there were (like old rounding courses, 
> etc.) a lot of remarkable humans.
> 
> > There are persons out there who know all about what happened. And I have 
> > already interrogated myself over this very serious matter these past 25 
> > years. And I haven't seen any demons for a few decades, Barry :-)—but 
> > perhaps now my streak will be broken.
> 
> Well if you haven't declared Our Dear Editor demonic by now, it's a given 
> that you're third eye blind. In the day I could see the brouhaha build as Our 
> Dear Judy was revealed as the very core of resistance to G_d and driven from 
> the course by protective students. Incense would be lit.
> 
> > You don't ever grasp a hold of reality when you argue like this, Barry. You 
> > systematically avoid contact with reality. And it shows. Not to Steve, but 
> > to a few others I would think. (I mean besides the horrible woman Judy—now 
> > talk about abuse: did you read some of her recent posts to me, Barry? Now 
> > *that's* what I call abuse.)
> 
> Robindra, by the Grace of G_d, open your third eye!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pragmatic knowledge, or stuff, in translating languages!

[jpgillam]

Served with a tossed salad, of course.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Jan 13, 2012, at 5:23 PM, jpgillam wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > A blog entry headline on a US Newspaper's website:
> > > 
> > > Santorum surges from behind in Iowa
> > > 
> > > http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/136347948.html
> > 
> > Part of me suspects it was a very mischievous copy editor 
> > behind that headline. Hope so, anyway. 
> 
> 
> I had an idea I would have liked to have seen implemented in Iowa:
> 
> A breakfast special, The Santorum.
> 
> The Santorum consists of a donut shaped biscuit, smothered in sausage gravy.
> 
> It would be cheap…but you'd definitely be scared to eat it.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pragmatic knowledge, or stuff, in translating languages!

[Vaj]

On Jan 13, 2012, at 5:23 PM, jpgillam wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > A blog entry headline on a US Newspaper's website:
> > 
> > Santorum surges from behind in Iowa
> > 
> > http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/136347948.html
> 
> Part of me suspects it was a very mischievous copy editor 
> behind that headline. Hope so, anyway. 


I had an idea I would have liked to have seen implemented in Iowa:

A breakfast special, The Santorum.

The Santorum consists of a donut shaped biscuit, smothered in sausage gravy.

It would be cheap…but you'd definitely be scared to eat it.

[FairfieldLife] Jack Nicholson talks about UFO's and our antiquated system.

[nablusoss1008]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73PnAymHAHk

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pragmatic knowledge, or stuff, in translating languages!

[jpgillam]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> A blog entry headline on a US Newspaper's website:
> 
> Santorum surges from behind in Iowa
> 
> http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/136347948.html

Part of me suspects it was a very mischievous copy editor 
behind that headline. Hope so, anyway. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts

[Vaj]

On Jan 13, 2012, at 1:13 PM, maskedzebra wrote:

> Barry: Back in the Bad Old Days, RWC would drag his followers up
> on stage and yell at them (and possibly even strike them),
> "pointing out their weaknesses" and telling them exactly
> what kinds of demons were possessing them.
> 
> Robin: This is a crude and misinformed and inaccurate description of what 
> went on between 1976 and 1986. I never once struck someone on stage.

Well, that's not what I saw. I cannot say it is accurate that you were 
"beating" them, but it would be accurate to say you were pounding them with 
clenched fists as if in total exasperation and frustration.

> If you read Rory's account from his autobiography you get the very essence of 
> metaphysical theatre that I acted out under my enlightenment. Although not 
> nearly the whole picture. Someone who has a mature and unbiased 
> perspective—who was there—will eventually speak out on this forum I hope, and 
> then we can hear the other side, which will be critical, but will not 
> resemble in the least the description given here.

I don't know what you'd want us to say? After all, it was not one of the things 
you'd remember by your constant reflection on it. The people, now that's 
something different, because there were (like old rounding courses, etc.) a lot 
of remarkable humans.

> There are persons out there who know all about what happened. And I have 
> already interrogated myself over this very serious matter these past 25 
> years. And I haven't seen any demons for a few decades, Barry :-)—but perhaps 
> now my streak will be broken.

Well if you haven't declared Our Dear Editor demonic by now, it's a given that 
you're third eye blind. In the day I could see the brouhaha build as Our Dear 
Judy was revealed as the very core of resistance to G_d and driven from the 
course by protective students. Incense would be lit.

> You don't ever grasp a hold of reality when you argue like this, Barry. You 
> systematically avoid contact with reality. And it shows. Not to Steve, but to 
> a few others I would think. (I mean besides the horrible woman Judy—now talk 
> about abuse: did you read some of her recent posts to me, Barry? Now *that's* 
> what I call abuse.)

Robindra, by the Grace of G_d, open your third eye!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy January 12th

[merudanda]

hilarious
wouldn't Mu. or Woof. give your dog instant enlightment? ---Mu-so the
scriptures says

BTW  You do teach your dog how to read?do you..?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > lol
> > and you as a dog owner please consider this(really did mean no
> > disrespect):
> > Regarding dogs reincarnating. Can a dog come back in another
> > life, and will it come back to its current owner? According
> > to the website, many pet owners hope this is the case.
>
> More important in a way, if a dog reincarnates as
> another dog and manages to find its way back to
> the stash of bones it buried in Buddha's time,
> will it have any more or any less Buddha Nature?
>
> Mu. Or woof. Whatever. :-)
>
> > Reminds of A.S. King's novel, The Dust of 100 Dogs, [:D] nice read
> > 
> >
> > http://www.thedustof100dogs.com/ 
> >
> > which follows a woman who incarnates 100 times as a dog before
> > reincarnating as a woman again in modern times. She remembers her
> > previous incarnations not only as a dog, but also as a pirate in
> > the 1600s who buried her treasure in the Caribbean. The story
> > weaves between both womens worlds, as we wait to see if the
> > treasure will be found over 400 years later.The Dust of 100 Dogs,
> > heroine had to wait until she was old enough to travel by herself
> > to get to the Caribbean, and then get to the spot where she'd
> > buried the goods.
>
> Sounds cool. I'll look for it.
>
> > What if you reincarnate into an impoverished part of the world,
> > and at age five remember, "I've got me a big old hunking wad of
> > cash in that bank in Gibraltar" how exactly would you get it?
>
> Almost more important, inflation being what it is,
> when you managed to get your hands on that big old
> hunking wad of cash, would it buy more than a cup
> of coffee at Starbucks?
Starbucks? back up stars for the future [:D]
>
> Mu. Or woof. Whatever. :-)
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > That's hilarious. Great find.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Reincarnation Bank was originally set up for Elliott Trevesk who
> > > > has now decided to give the banking facility to all believers of
> > > > reincarnation...
> > >
> > > So would the "password check" involve a simple password,
> > > or would the new reincarnatee need to pick out some item
> > > of clothing he'd worn in a past life? :-)
> > >
> >
>

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > lol
> > and  you as a dog owner please consider this(really did mean no
> > disrespect):
> > Regarding dogs reincarnating. Can a dog come  back in another
> > life, and will it come back to its current owner?  According
> > to the website, many pet owners hope this is the case.
>
> More important in a way, if a dog reincarnates as
> another dog and manages to find its way back to
> the stash of bones it buried in Buddha's time,
> will it have any more or any less Buddha Nature?
>
> Mu. Or woof. Whatever. :-)
>
> > Reminds of A.S. King's novel, The Dust of 100 Dogs, [:D] nice read
> > 
> >
> > http://www.thedustof100dogs.com/ 
> >
> > which follows  a woman who incarnates 100 times as a dog before
> > reincarnating as a  woman again in modern times. She remembers her
> > previous incarnations not  only as a dog, but also as a pirate in
> > the 1600s who buried her  treasure in the Caribbean. The story
> > weaves between both womens worlds,  as we wait to see if the
> > treasure will be found over 400 years later.The Dust of 100 Dogs,
> > heroine had to wait until she was old enough to travel by herself
> > to get to the Caribbean, and then get to the spot where she'd
> > buried the goods.
>
> Sounds cool. I'll look for it.
>
> > What if you reincarnate into an impoverished part of the world,
> > and at age five remember, "I've got me a big old hunking wad of
> > cash in that bank in Gibraltar" how exactly would  you get it?
>
> Almost more important, inflation being what it is,
> when you managed to get your hands on that big old
> hunking wad of cash, would it buy more than a cup
> of coffee at Starbucks?
>
> Mu. Or woof. Whatever. :-)
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > That's hilarious. Great find.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Reincarnation Bank was originally set up for Elliott Trevesk who
> > > > has now decided to give the banking facility to all believers of
> > > > reincarnation...
> > >
> > > So would the "password check" involve a simple password,
> > > or would the new reincarnatee need to pick out some item
> > > of clothing he'd worn in a past

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy January 12th

[merudanda]

hilarious
wouldn't Mu. or Woof. give your dog instant enlightment? ---so the
scriptures says

BTW  You do teach your dog how to read?do you..?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > lol
> > and  you as a dog owner please consider this(really did mean no
> > disrespect):
> > Regarding dogs reincarnating. Can a dog come  back in another
> > life, and will it come back to its current owner?  According
> > to the website, many pet owners hope this is the case.
>
> More important in a way, if a dog reincarnates as
> another dog and manages to find its way back to
> the stash of bones it buried in Buddha's time,
> will it have any more or any less Buddha Nature?
>
> Mu. Or woof. Whatever. :-)
>
> > Reminds of A.S. King's novel, The Dust of 100 Dogs, [:D] nice read
> > 
> >
> > http://www.thedustof100dogs.com/ 
> >
> > which follows  a woman who incarnates 100 times as a dog before
> > reincarnating as a  woman again in modern times. She remembers her
> > previous incarnations not  only as a dog, but also as a pirate in
> > the 1600s who buried her  treasure in the Caribbean. The story
> > weaves between both womens worlds,  as we wait to see if the
> > treasure will be found over 400 years later.The Dust of 100 Dogs,
> > heroine had to wait until she was old enough to travel by herself
> > to get to the Caribbean, and then get to the spot where she'd
> > buried the goods.
>
> Sounds cool. I'll look for it.
>
> > What if you reincarnate into an impoverished part of the world,
> > and at age five remember, "I've got me a big old hunking wad of
> > cash in that bank in Gibraltar" how exactly would  you get it?
>
> Almost more important, inflation being what it is,
> when you managed to get your hands on that big old
> hunking wad of cash, would it buy more than a cup
> of coffee at Starbucks?
Starbucks? back up stars for the future
>
> Mu. Or woof. Whatever. :-)
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > That's hilarious. Great find.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Reincarnation Bank was originally set up for Elliott Trevesk who
> > > > has now decided to give the banking facility to all believers of
> > > > reincarnation...
> > >
> > > So would the "password check" involve a simple password,
> > > or would the new reincarnatee need to pick out some item
> > > of clothing he'd worn in a past life?  :-)
> > >
> >
>