[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas
You should consider that gospel as fiction and for entertainment use only. There's a reason why the Christian Church excluded this writing from the official church canon. More likely, the source of that writing is questionable. You should do more research on this matter to satisfy your own curiousity. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shainm307" wrote: > > Hello, I recently watched the Gospel of Judas on Netflix(you can also look at > it online). The 3rd-4th century text was apparently found a few years back > and about 85% of it is still readable. I personally found it to be one of the > most interesting of all the Gospels. Apparently Jesus wanted Judas to turn > him in and also Jesus said "You will be greater than the others Judas. Your > star will shine brighter than the rest." I personally found it interesting > because that morning I was wondering what Satan's role was and wondering > whether or not he should be ignored. Anyways, what do you guys think? >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?
Actually, in a type IV multiverse, ALL consistent stories are true somewhere. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > > > When meeting Lord Shiva, being on hands and knees doesn't cut it. > > > > Better to be faced down, laying prone on the floor in abject unworthiness, > > and crying in body shuddering sobs and having your hairs standing on end > > and abiding with your mantra: "have mercy on me Lord." > > > > And be prepared to have your head removed in order to create a teachable > > moment for all possible future histories. > > > > Edg > > Poor Edg, he just don't get it! Shiva is merely a symbolic form > *representing* a formless creative intelligence of nature. There ain't no > Shiva out there wearing a tiger skin, (except in Edg's imagination), he just > don't get it! > > Edg, Edg, Edg...it ain't a literal head! :-) It represents the human ego > being sublimated into the cosmic ego or God, dude! > > http://www.koausa.org/Gods/God9.html >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The significance of OM
The term "istava-devata" in the Yoga Sutras is used to describe "mantra". The term is usually translated as "personal god," but obviously, since the Yoga Sutras say that any attractive object can be used as an istava-devata, "personal god" is a lousy translation. MMY uses "word/sound chosen for its sound-quality". Do you disagree with MMY's decision to translate things using more secular language? Your video seems to imply that you disagree. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: > > OM is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and endings of all things. > > As MMY says in his translation/book "The Vedas", > > "If you strike a bell it produces a hum-m-m-m. From that eternal silence a > hum starts and this hum is called OM. You may have heard of the glory of OM > and the greatness of OM, that OM is everything and that from OM the creation > comes and into OM the creation dissolves, (the Alpha and the Omega) that OM > is the sustain-er of life (Vishnu), that OM is the beginning (Brahma) and the > end (Shiva) of ALL creation. All this is *OM*, that hum, which is the first > silent sound, first silent wave that starts from that silent ocean of > UN-manifested life. The Vedas, page two. (parenthesis added by poster) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRMtVr-s9vo > > > "Eko-ham bahu-ssyaam", "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with > God" (The word was OM). >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
Alright - the girls hold their own, but that guy in the video is positively creepy. Btw, did you know that Estonian men have the shortest life span? http://www.baltictimes.com/news/articles/21774/ From: cardemaister To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2012 3:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > butt-bouncing in Helsinki could cause women all over Finland to become > more beautiful. That is, none at all. > mmmh should stop elevating for awhile [:D] > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYPhTE6CGsI Estonia only has something like one million inhabitants as opposed to more than 5 million in Finland, but there are much more attractive girls in Estonia than in Finland. That's most probably due to lots of German and Danish "blood" in Estonia... In fact, Mrs. Anu Saagim, who's married to a Finnish businessman said that all Finnish girls are ugly! But hey Anu, how many Miss Universes has Estonia got? :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcozYuPTnBU > > Yes they are models, celebs.., but in Finland it is illegal to take > someone's photo and put it to youtube, with celeb pics it's not that > same thing... > > except they are smart and clever"outspoken" , too-- of course > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxQMHDGXFCU >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shainm307" wrote: > > Hello, I recently watched the Gospel of Judas on Netflix(you can also look at > it online). The 3rd-4th century text was apparently found a few years back > and about 85% of it is still readable. I personally found it to be one of the > most interesting of all the Gospels. Apparently Jesus wanted Judas to turn > him in and also Jesus said "You will be greater than the others Judas. Your > star will shine brighter than the rest." I personally found it interesting > because that morning I was wondering what Satan's role was and wondering > whether or not he should be ignored. Anyways, what do you guys think? We remember names like Jesus, Buddha, Einstein, Shakespeare, and also Stalin, Hitler, Attila the Hun, Pol Pot. Just take your pick of which side you want to be on.
[FairfieldLife] The Gospel of Judas
Hello, I recently watched the Gospel of Judas on Netflix(you can also look at it online). The 3rd-4th century text was apparently found a few years back and about 85% of it is still readable. I personally found it to be one of the most interesting of all the Gospels. Apparently Jesus wanted Judas to turn him in and also Jesus said "You will be greater than the others Judas. Your star will shine brighter than the rest." I personally found it interesting because that morning I was wondering what Satan's role was and wondering whether or not he should be ignored. Anyways, what do you guys think?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The significance of OM
Whoa... I have the OM symbol tattooed on my arm... that must mean I'm like totally super spiritual and stuff! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: > > OM is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and endings of all things. > > As MMY says in his translation/book "The Vedas", > > "If you strike a bell it produces a hum-m-m-m. From that eternal silence a > hum starts and this hum is called OM. You may have heard of the glory of OM > and the greatness of OM, that OM is everything and that from OM the creation > comes and into OM the creation dissolves, (the Alpha and the Omega) that OM > is the sustain-er of life (Vishnu), that OM is the beginning (Brahma) and the > end (Shiva) of ALL creation. All this is *OM*, that hum, which is the first > silent sound, first silent wave that starts from that silent ocean of > UN-manifested life. The Vedas, page two. (parenthesis added by poster) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRMtVr-s9vo > > > "Eko-ham bahu-ssyaam", "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with > God" (The word was OM). >
[FairfieldLife] The significance of OM
OM is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and endings of all things. As MMY says in his translation/book "The Vedas", "If you strike a bell it produces a hum-m-m-m. From that eternal silence a hum starts and this hum is called OM. You may have heard of the glory of OM and the greatness of OM, that OM is everything and that from OM the creation comes and into OM the creation dissolves, (the Alpha and the Omega) that OM is the sustain-er of life (Vishnu), that OM is the beginning (Brahma) and the end (Shiva) of ALL creation. All this is *OM*, that hum, which is the first silent sound, first silent wave that starts from that silent ocean of UN-manifested life. The Vedas, page two. (parenthesis added by poster) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRMtVr-s9vo "Eko-ham bahu-ssyaam", "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God" (The word was OM).
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat May 05 00:00:00 2012 End Date (UTC): Sat May 12 00:00:00 2012 55 messages as of (UTC) Sun May 06 00:09:12 2012 7 sparaig 7 cardemaister 7 Bhairitu 6 nablusoss1008 4 merudanda 4 authfriend 3 turquoiseb 3 Emily Reyn 3 "Richard J. Williams" 2 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 2 Buck 1 wgm4u 1 shanti2218411 1 salyavin808 1 merlin 1 Susan 1 Robert 1 Duveyoung Posters: 18 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > When meeting Lord Shiva, being on hands and knees doesn't cut it. > > Better to be faced down, laying prone on the floor in abject unworthiness, > and crying in body shuddering sobs and having your hairs standing on end and > abiding with your mantra: "have mercy on me Lord." > > And be prepared to have your head removed in order to create a teachable > moment for all possible future histories. > > Edg Poor Edg, he just don't get it! Shiva is merely a symbolic form *representing* a formless creative intelligence of nature. There ain't no Shiva out there wearing a tiger skin, (except in Edg's imagination), he just don't get it! Edg, Edg, Edg...it ain't a literal head! :-) It represents the human ego being sublimated into the cosmic ego or God, dude! http://www.koausa.org/Gods/God9.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?
When meeting Lord Shiva, being on hands and knees doesn't cut it. Better to be faced down, laying prone on the floor in abject unworthiness, and crying in body shuddering sobs and having your hairs standing on end and abiding with your mantra: "have mercy on me Lord." And be prepared to have your head removed in order to create a teachable moment for all possible future histories. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > >>> There are probably many witnesses that observed Barry > >>> down on his hands and knees doing a puja to Lord > >>> Shiva! > >>> > > authfriend: > >> It's funny how often people say "on his hands and knees" > >> when they mean "on his knees." They're two very different > >> postures. > >> > > Let me re-phrase that: > > > > There are probably many witnesses that observed Barry, like > > a little baby, down on his hands and knees doing a puja to > > Lord Shiva! > > At the age some of us are, getting down on one's knees almost guarantees > one's hands get in on the action as well. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > butt-bouncing in Helsinki could cause women all over Finland to become > more beautiful. That is, none at all. > mmmh should stop elevating for awhile [:D] > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYPhTE6CGsI Estonia only has something like one million inhabitants as opposed to more than 5 million in Finland, but there are much more attractive girls in Estonia than in Finland. That's most probably due to lots of German and Danish "blood" in Estonia... In fact, Mrs. Anu Saagim, who's married to a Finnish businessman said that all Finnish girls are ugly! But hey Anu, how many Miss Universes has Estonia got? :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcozYuPTnBU > > Yes they are models, celebs.., but in Finland it is illegal to take > someone's photo and put it to youtube, with celeb pics it's not that > same thing... > > except they are smart and clever"outspoken" , too-- of course > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxQMHDGXFCU >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > For many diabetics, TM + a good diet, controls blood sugar quite well. > > I'd just be regular with my practice, eat a proper/appropriate (as defined by > Western medicine) diet, and check with a physician on a regular basis to see > if medication is indicated. > > Trusting it all to some mental technique or another is probably not a good > idea. That's not my intention. BTW, e.g. coffee might be quite effective, but not decaf, unfortunately: http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/why-coffee-protects-against-diabetes-190743.aspx
[FairfieldLife] Not for Brahmacharis movie review
But very much for film buffs especially if you like B-Movies. One of the most prolific B-Movie directors other than Roger Corman is Jim Wynorski. Never heard of him? Bet you've seen one of his films though. "Popatopolis" is a documentary that follows Wynorski as he attempts to make a feature film, "Witches of Breastwick" in just three days. The documentary is very fascinating and yes there is some skin in it (soft core). The guy runs on pure gumption and very low budgets. It's also very hilarious at times. http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Popatopolis/70234828 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1453253/ Most recently I saw his work in "Camel Spiders" which we discussed here. Yesterday I came across a dead Jerusalem cricket which also resembles a camel spider but of course has 6 legs and the one I found was 2 inches long. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_cricket
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's not your grandfather's military any more
Still haven't found General Cornum's email. However, Major General Schneider's contact info is: Richard Schneider PRESIDENTS OFFICE (802) 485-2065 p...@norwich.edu Enjoy, Vaj. L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > [...] > > I bet the Vaj fellow is already preparing an e-mail to Cornum, spreading > > all kinds of lies about TM while praising "mindfullness". > > > > Actually, I was looking for General Cornum's email so that Vaj COULD do that > if he wanted, but it isn't immediately obvious how to contact her (sorry Vaj). > > > > Why doesn't he see that the three aspects Lord Buddha claimed were eternal > > also included "Truth" ? > > > > Just as with all the other TM-ex type folk, Vaj was a True Believer when he > started TM and now has bounced to the opposite extreme since his > disillusionment. > > To be candid, many pro-TMers on this group are likely candidates to become > very Vaj-like should they have a change of heart later on... > > > L. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: >>> There are probably many witnesses that observed Barry >>> down on his hands and knees doing a puja to Lord >>> Shiva! >>> > authfriend: >> It's funny how often people say "on his hands and knees" >> when they mean "on his knees." They're two very different >> postures. >> > Let me re-phrase that: > > There are probably many witnesses that observed Barry, like > a little baby, down on his hands and knees doing a puja to > Lord Shiva! At the age some of us are, getting down on one's knees almost guarantees one's hands get in on the action as well.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
On 05/05/2012 12:46 PM, cardemaister wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> One of my ayurvedic books mentions 22 kinds of diabetes. > "The word "diabetes" is borrowed from the Greek word meaning "a siphon." The > 2nd-century A.D. Greek physician, Aretus the Cappadocian, named the condition > "diabetes." He explained that patients with it had polyuria and "passed water > like a siphon." > > http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=11148 > > That's why I added the modifier(?) 'mellitus', obviously > referring to 'sweets', or stuff. Being a Sanskrit buff did you also notice the word "moodhana" in the mantra I provided? Mudhana (I used the phonetic spelling or people would miss the long "u") refers to "madhu" or honey. Swaha, of course, sends it out away from the practitioner. Hoong is an ayurvedic mantra for kapha. So in general the mantra supposedly would help reduce high blood sugar.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > > > Do youse think it could be possible to lower ones blood sugar by > > performing Number 10 (the one after the Heavenly Bodies)? > > > > My blood sugar was slightly too high after 12 hours of fasting. > > > > The effect of Number 10 (III 31) is 'kSut-pipaasa-nivRttiH' > > (hunger-thirst-cessation). Those two are typical symptoms of diabetes > > mellitus. > > > > This morning I tried doing that saMyama. Almost immediately > > after I started, the taste in my mouth changed much more pleasant > > than it was before, somewhat sweet, I'd say. Furthermore, my > > mouth stopped feeling so dry. > > > > Anyone? > > Strong flavors on sutras reminds me you're becoming a real Sidha ! :-) > > Seems extremely unlikely! As I've told before, I "do" the saMyama-s only very occasionally, and usually only a few "selected" ones. I believe that's almost like not doing them at all... ;)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > One of my ayurvedic books mentions 22 kinds of diabetes. "The word "diabetes" is borrowed from the Greek word meaning "a siphon." The 2nd-century A.D. Greek physician, Aretus the Cappadocian, named the condition "diabetes." He explained that patients with it had polyuria and "passed water like a siphon." http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=11148 That's why I added the modifier(?) 'mellitus', obviously referring to 'sweets', or stuff.
Re: [FairfieldLife] "Sherlock" - A Scandal In Belgravia
On 05/05/2012 02:02 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > For those who missed it last night in the US, you really > might want to look into whether it's being rebroadcast > sometime this week. The series itself, penned by UK TV > maestros Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss, is never less > than excellent, but this particular episode is the best > of the six I've seen so far. On Sunday night in the US: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/sherlock/season2.html > > The updating of Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson to modern > times technically *shouldn't* work, but it does, mainly > because Moffat and Gatiss really know and understand the > original stories and the original characters. Benedict > Cumberbatch is SO narcissistic and SO unlikable as Holmes > that you really can't help but love him. He's like House > squared. :-) And in this episode the 40+-year-old virgin > meets the babe who he will refer ever afterwards as "The > Woman." She (Irene Adler, who had a similarly powerful > and never-fully-explained presence in Conan-Doyle's > original stories and novels) is *very* well played by > Lara Pulver. There hasn't been "romantic tension between > equals" like this onscreen for decades. > > It's a *very* enjoyable series, and the nature of it > (each episode dealing with one of the stories) means > that you can dive into it with this episode (or any), > without having missed too much that is essential. It > is worth pointing out that Martin Freeman (soon to > appear as Bilbo Baggins in "The Hobbit") is the Best > Watson Ever, just as Cumberbatch is arguably the > Best Holmes Ever. It's the characterization that > matters, not which era it's set in. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW9EUWsvftE > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PhzRmUD4mI > > http://www.salon.com/2012/05/04/sherlocks_masterful_return/ > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
On 05/05/2012 10:23 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: > >>> This morning I tried doing that saMyama... >>> >>> Anyone? >>> > turquoiseb: >> Possible? > Apparently Barry has been practicing saMyama on > the TM-Sidhi program for a number of years and > that would probably account for his not having > any symtoms of diabetes. It remains to be seen > if he can fly or not! > > > From what I've read, type 1 and type 2 diabetes > where identified as separate conditions for the > first time by the Indian physicians Sushruta and > Charaka in 400-500 AD (Poretsky 3). > > 'Principles of diabetes mellitus' > edited by Leonid Poretsky > New York: Springer. 2009 > > One of my ayurvedic books mentions 22 kinds of diabetes. There's also diabetes insipidus which results from poor kidney function. Some doctors think that "leaky gut" syndrome can lead to a miss-diagnosis too. Type 2 and insipidus can be controlled with low carb diets. In fact, diabetic specialists are often the most knowledgeable when it comes to nutrition since nutrition is used to keep it under control. If you have Netflix streaming here is a good Gary Null special on diabetes: http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Preventing_and_Reversing_Diabetes_Naturally/70158344
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna Chat?
Drop back around 7:30 PM PDT then if you can. I'm just going to keep the chat room open on Chrome. And I want to see if the site tells you without logging in if there's anyone there and if it will give a sound when someone logs in. Last week a couple of people dropped by around noon on Saturday but not at the same time. On 05/05/2012 09:58 AM, Emily Reyn wrote: > I'll be out for the day, but wish I could lurk :) Could be fun. > > > > From: Bhairitu > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2012 9:56 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Wanna Chat? > > > > I'm going to drop by the FFL Chat Room around noon PDT (2 CDT) if anyone > wants to try out it out. The chat room link is on the sidebar menu of > the FFL web page. Could be a hoot! :-D > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
Just a few comments.Whenever I hear the phrase like the "real" anything I really(sorry :)) want to ask what exactly the word real means in that phrase(see below) IOW the answer to what is the "real" universe? kinda depends on what you mean and who you are asking.With respect to diabetes, the question is can a mental intention or expectation initiate actual physical changes in the body e.g lower the glucose level.Actually, I think the answer to that is yes. In fact, placebo research pretty strongly supports the latter. A good article to look at with regard to this is "the Neurobiological Basis Of The Placebo Effect". The question of whether samyama on a particular sutra would have a separate effect on glucose levels(beyond a general placebo effect) would have to be determined by research.However, I think from my own experience that it is as likely as not that the subjective experience of the sutra practice could certainly increase the power of individuals expectation of a positive outcome(reduced glucose levels)and consequently result in an actual change in glucose levels. (there are a # of studies that indicate that hypnosis may work in this way i.e. by inducing an altered state consciousness in reducing pain sensation). > > Possible? In the Magical Thinking Universe, *anything* > is possible. That's why people prefer it to the real one. > > In the real universe, I would say that there is *just* > as much possibility of that happening as a person ever > levitating as a result of the TM "flying" siddhi. Or that > a few people butt-bouncing in Helsinki could cause women > all over Finland to become more beautiful. That is, none > at all. > > You asked. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
> > This morning I tried doing that saMyama... > > > > Anyone? > > turquoiseb: > Possible? Apparently Barry has been practicing saMyama on the TM-Sidhi program for a number of years and that would probably account for his not having any symtoms of diabetes. It remains to be seen if he can fly or not! >From what I've read, type 1 and type 2 diabetes where identified as separate conditions for the first time by the Indian physicians Sushruta and Charaka in 400-500 AD (Poretsky 3). 'Principles of diabetes mellitus' edited by Leonid Poretsky New York: Springer. 2009
[FairfieldLife] Re: Learning might be a sin??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > "Learning anything without the knowledge of one's guru while still under his > authority constitutes a sin according to the Vedas.[20]" Yeah, don't go thinking for yourself. That's bd. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adi_Shankara >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna Chat?
I'll be out for the day, but wish I could lurk :) Could be fun. From: Bhairitu To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2012 9:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Wanna Chat? I'm going to drop by the FFL Chat Room around noon PDT (2 CDT) if anyone wants to try out it out. The chat room link is on the sidebar menu of the FFL web page. Could be a hoot! :-D
[FairfieldLife] Wanna Chat?
I'm going to drop by the FFL Chat Room around noon PDT (2 CDT) if anyone wants to try out it out. The chat room link is on the sidebar menu of the FFL web page. Could be a hoot! :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?
I think Merudanda's poetry might make for an enjoyable compilation. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 7:09 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > But that's just my opinion. You are free to have your > own opinion. I rest my case. Now make yours. > > :-) I think of scripture being basically advertising that everyone has forgotten was promotional material. At its best it contains clues to unburdening our experience, but usually is incomplete in this regard. Just think what a treasure trove of scripture could be made from the material on this forum. It is probably even more diverse and incoherent as a body of work than most scripture that has been cobbled together by the followers of whoever.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is describing the Bible accurately "oppression?"
Yes, after I wrote that, I coughed, because it was a stupid comment in that "compartmentalism" is employed in almost all aspects of life - i.e., "don't throw the baby out with the bath water." From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 4:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is describing the Bible accurately "oppression?" --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > > I've always made a distinction between MMY's teachings on > the nature and mechanics of consciousness and his personal > opinions on social/sexual/political etc. issues. I've never > "revered" the latter and strenuously disagree with many of > them. > > You see, this requires "compartmentalism". Â While I want all > the benefits espoused in Dr. Oz's ad, and I love the fact that > both Oprah and Dr. Oz are supporting their employees in this > practice, I have a hard time compartmentalizing - or rather, > separating the practice from the Guru. Â But, perhaps, I need > to reframe the idea, because stress remains a big problem, a > year after being laid off, with no end in sight to the new > thresholds. The saying "Take what you need and leave the rest" can be helpful in this context. There's really no need to buy the whole hog, as it were. > > From: authfriend > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 11:27 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is describing the Bible accurately "oppression?" > > > Â > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > A good article that makes the same point I just tried to make > > about the idiocy of playing "shoot the messenger" when someone > > points out disturbing truths about something one believes in. > > Note the automatic, unquestioned assumption that what's > being pointed out are always "truths," as opposed to, say, > bullshit just as ignorant as that of the Waco woman. > > > > Let's test this theory out. Some TM supporters here are not > > homophobic. How do you justify that when the teacher whose > > teachings you revere once replied to one of his students > > asking about what it meant to be gay, "Better to be dead." > > I've always made a distinction between MMY's teachings on > the nature and mechanics of consciousness and his personal > opinions on social/sexual/political etc. issues. I've never > "revered" the latter and strenuously disagree with many of > them. > > > Do you believe Maharishi's statement represents > > Eternal Truth, or was it just the personal opinion of an Indian > > homophobe? > > The latter (although it might be interesting to know > the context). > > > If the latter, do you ignore his words about homosexuality > > as the obvious bullshit they are? If you swing behind the > > latter, why can't you consider someone considering what he > > said about the need to protect the "purity" of a tradition > > he made up to be bullshit as being as OK for them to do as > > you do when you ignore what he said about gays? > > It's easy to see what happens to the value of MMY's > teaching about the nature and mechanics of consciousness > (including the practice of his techniques) when the > "purity" of that teaching isn't maintained. > > Apples and prickly pears, in other words. Typical > shallowness from Barry. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
On 05/05/2012 12:26 AM, cardemaister wrote: > Do youse think it could be possible to lower ones blood sugar by > performing Number 10 (the one after the Heavenly Bodies)? > > My blood sugar was slightly too high after 12 hours of fasting. > > The effect of Number 10 (III 31) is 'kSut-pipaasa-nivRttiH' > (hunger-thirst-cessation). Those two are typical symptoms of diabetes > mellitus. > > This morning I tried doing that saMyama. Almost immediately > after I started, the taste in my mouth changed much more pleasant > than it was before, somewhat sweet, I'd say. Furthermore, my > mouth stopped feeling so dry. > > Anyone? > > Try: om hoong moodana swaha There is also Type 3 diabetes which was discovered in the 90's and there has been more research on it even suggesting people who spend a lot of time at computers may be prone to getting it. And sometimes I think that if the food transit is slower the fasting level when you get up may be high but wait a couple hours more and it may be normal.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > For many diabetics, TM + a good diet, controls blood sugar quite well. > > > > > > > > I'd just be regular with my practice, eat a proper/appropriate (as > > > > defined by Western medicine) diet, and check with a physician on a > > > > regular basis to see if medication is indicated. > > > > > > > > Trusting it all to some mental technique or another is probably not a > > > > good idea. > > > > > > Look at the rumored issues MMY had with blood sugar. > > > > > > > > > What rumours ? The man lived to become 93 years old spending most of his > > > life sitting down after all. > > > > > > > His older brother was 99 at the time of MMY's funeral, or so I have heard, > > and far healthier. MMY had a sweet tooth, by all accounts, and a serious > > incident 20 years before his death that he may never have fully recovered > > from. > > > We only have Deepak's exalted story to back that claim. And he said it had > something to do with the heart, from what I remember. Complete organ failure, I thought, and there were many rumors about MMY's failing health from that period. When was MMY's "Year of Silence?" L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > > For many diabetics, TM + a good diet, controls blood sugar quite well. > > > > > > I'd just be regular with my practice, eat a proper/appropriate (as > > > defined by Western medicine) diet, and check with a physician on a > > > regular basis to see if medication is indicated. > > > > > > Trusting it all to some mental technique or another is probably not a > > > good idea. > > > > Look at the rumored issues MMY had with blood sugar. > > > > > > What rumours ? The man lived to become 93 years old spending most of his > > life sitting down after all. > > > > His older brother was 99 at the time of MMY's funeral, or so I have heard, > and far healthier. MMY had a sweet tooth, by all accounts, and a serious > incident 20 years before his death that he may never have fully recovered > from. We only have Deepak's exalted story to back that claim. And he said it had something to do with the heart, from what I remember. > > L >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?
> > There are probably many witnesses that observed Barry > > down on his hands and knees doing a puja to Lord > > Shiva! > > authfriend: > It's funny how often people say "on his hands and knees" > when they mean "on his knees." They're two very different > postures. > Let me re-phrase that: There are probably many witnesses that observed Barry, like a little baby, down on his hands and knees doing a puja to Lord Shiva!
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's not your grandfather's military any more
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > [...] > > I bet the Vaj fellow is already preparing an e-mail to Cornum, spreading > > all kinds of lies about TM while praising "mindfullness". > > > > Actually, I was looking for General Cornum's email so that Vaj COULD do that > if he wanted, but it isn't immediately obvious how to contact her (sorry Vaj). > > > > Why doesn't he see that the three aspects Lord Buddha claimed were eternal > > also included "Truth" ? > > > > Just as with all the other TM-ex type folk, Vaj was a True Believer when he > started TM Who told you that Vaj started TM, Vaj ? Whatever you do don't believe a word of what that fellow tells you :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > For many diabetics, TM + a good diet, controls blood sugar quite well. > > > > I'd just be regular with my practice, eat a proper/appropriate (as defined > > by Western medicine) diet, and check with a physician on a regular basis to > > see if medication is indicated. > > > > Trusting it all to some mental technique or another is probably not a good > > idea. > > Look at the rumored issues MMY had with blood sugar. > > > What rumours ? The man lived to become 93 years old spending most of his life > sitting down after all. > His older brother was 99 at the time of MMY's funeral, or so I have heard, and far healthier. MMY had a sweet tooth, by all accounts, and a serious incident 20 years before his death that he may never have fully recovered from. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's not your grandfather's military any more
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: [...] > I bet the Vaj fellow is already preparing an e-mail to Cornum, spreading all > kinds of lies about TM while praising "mindfullness". > Actually, I was looking for General Cornum's email so that Vaj COULD do that if he wanted, but it isn't immediately obvious how to contact her (sorry Vaj). > Why doesn't he see that the three aspects Lord Buddha claimed were eternal > also included "Truth" ? > Just as with all the other TM-ex type folk, Vaj was a True Believer when he started TM and now has bounced to the opposite extreme since his disillusionment. To be candid, many pro-TMers on this group are likely candidates to become very Vaj-like should they have a change of heart later on... L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > Do youse think it could be possible to lower ones blood sugar by > performing Number 10 (the one after the Heavenly Bodies)? > > My blood sugar was slightly too high after 12 hours of fasting. > > The effect of Number 10 (III 31) is 'kSut-pipaasa-nivRttiH' > (hunger-thirst-cessation). Those two are typical symptoms of diabetes > mellitus. > > This morning I tried doing that saMyama. Almost immediately > after I started, the taste in my mouth changed much more pleasant > than it was before, somewhat sweet, I'd say. Furthermore, my > mouth stopped feeling so dry. > > Anyone? Strong flavors on sutras reminds me you're becoming a real Sidha ! :-) >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > For many diabetics, TM + a good diet, controls blood sugar quite well. > > I'd just be regular with my practice, eat a proper/appropriate (as defined by > Western medicine) diet, and check with a physician on a regular basis to see > if medication is indicated. > > Trusting it all to some mental technique or another is probably not a good > idea. Look at the rumored issues MMY had with blood sugar. What rumours ? The man lived to become 93 years old spending most of his life sitting down after all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's not your grandfather's military any more
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > interesting video concerning study on TM at Norwich University, the "home of > the ROTC": > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIH0913lQe0&feature=g-all-u > > > The brigadier who comments on the study later on is > > http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/cgsc/Events/CSF/BG_Rhonda_Cornum_Bio.pdf > > Brigadier General Rhonda Cornum, Ph.D., M.D. > Director, Comprehensive Soldier Fitness HQDA, DCS G-3/5/7 > > > > The US military is evaluating TM, mindfulness, and I assume other mental > techniques to see which one(s) are appropriate to teach to which people in > which situations. > > The testing will probably take a total of 20+ years since they will track the > subjects throughout their US military careers. > > The results of the studies should start to become available in the next few > years, if they aren't already, at least for mindfulness. > > > L. I bet the Vaj fellow is already preparing an e-mail to Cornum, spreading all kinds of lies about TM while praising "mindfullness". Why doesn't he see that the three aspects Lord Buddha claimed were eternal also included "Truth" ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > There are probably many witnesses that observed Barry > down on his hands and knees doing a puja to Lord > Shiva! It's funny how often people say "on his hands and knees" when they mean "on his knees." They're two very different postures.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?
> > You guys can talk about the "appropiate-ness" [sic] > > of doing puja all you want. I'm still rolling my > > eyes at the phrase "Maharishi allowed." > > > > Grown adults talking about someone "allowing" them > > to do something? What a waste of a mind. > authfriend: > As long as what Barry claims to believe works as a > putdown of a TMer, it's of no consequence that he > doesn't acually believe it... > It's just getting to easy to take Barry down! Everyone knows by now that he used to bow down before the Hindu Gods and recite a pledge to keep MMY's teaching pure. There are probably many witnesses that observed Barry down on his hands and knees doing a puja to Lord Shiva! So, Barry once believed the scriptures were sacred, or he's been a fibber for a very, very long time, or he conned many poor students out of a lot of money!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > Just to start the week off right :-), Translation: Barry is about to tell a lie. I'll point > out that not a single "TM defender" here has tried > to make a case for either 1) the need to protect > the "purity" of a "tradition" that Maharishi made > up, and which has no basis in the actual history > of the Shankaracharya tradition, I pointed out to Barry yesterday that I had posted about the tradition in a recent thread. Aside from that lie from Barry, note that he demands TM defenders make a case for *his* opinion, regardless of whether they agree with it. > Until one does, I have to believe that my analysis > of why they focus *instead* on "shooting the messen- > ger" in my last paragraph above is right on. As I pointed out in my previous post, Barry feels no need to actually believe what he claims to believe, as long as it puts down a TMer. > They don't want to actually defend the silly things > they believe in, because if they did they'd have to > admit that they believed them. "Shooting the messenger" > is much more convenient -- you can make a big show of > defending the things you believe in without ever > owning up to believing in them. :-) :-) :-) No, dishonest and/or ignorant and/or obnoxious messengers get shot regardless of the shooter's adherence to the belief in question. And note the inadvertent slip-up: while he pretends to be asking folks why they believe things, in fact he considers himself the "messenger" delivering the bad news that their beliefs are false. > Honest people can respond to criticism of ideas they > believe in by discussing the actual ideas. Dishonest > people can only try to demonize the critic. When the "critic" dishonestly demonizes the honest people, he has nothing to complain about when he gets called on it. The way to elicit a real discussion of ideas is to broach the topic respectfully and honestly. Criticism of ideas need not involve demonizing those who hold those ideas. When it does, you know that the critic is not, in fact, interested in a discussion of the ideas but only in the demonizing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: : MILITARY LEADERS PROMOTE TM
Maharishi would have loved this. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin wrote: > > > > > > National News > > MILITARY LEADERS, MEDICAL RESEARCHERS PROMOTE TM FOR RESILIENCE AND HEALTH > More than 130 military and governmental leaders and medical researchers > gathered yesterday at the Army and Navy Club in Washington, D.C. for a > national summit on "Resilience, the Brain and Meditation." The meeting > investigated the extensive scientific evidence and clinical experience using > the Transcendental Meditation technique to promote resilience and overcome > post-traumatic stress disorder among active-duty military personnel, > veterans, and cadets. > > W. Scott Gould > Deputy Secretary > Veterans Administration > Candy Crowley, Host > CNN's State of the Union >  > > Dr. Richard Schneider > President, Norwich University > Dr. John Hagelin, President > David Lynch Foundation > The Summit was sponsored by Operation Warrior Wellness, a division of the > David Lynch Foundation, and hosted by Candy Crowley, the Emmy Award-winning > host of CNNâs "State of the Union with Candy Crowley." >  > Speakers included W. Scott Gould, the deputy secretary at the Veterans > Administration; Dr. Richard Schneider, the 23rd president of Norwich > University, the oldest private military college in the country, where > Transcendental Meditation is being studied as a tool to promote resilience > among cadets; Norman Rosenthal, M.D., clinical professor of psychiatry at > Georgetown University Medical School and author of the New York Times > bestseller Transcendence: Healing and Transformation through Transcendental > Meditation; and Col. Brian Rees, M.D., M.P.H., Command Surgeon, 63rd Regional > Support Command. > > The Summit is receiving considerable positive media coverage, including: > * The Washington Post (May 4) FULL STORY > * Politico, a top-ranked political website read by government leaders > in Washington (May 3) FULL STORY > Dr. John Hagelin, president of the David Lynch Foundation, who co-hosted the > Summit with Candy Crowley and who reported on the positive effects of TM > brain functioning, said the leadership in Washington is finally recognizing > the benefits of Transcendental Meditation. "The problem of traumatic stress > is so daunting, and the research on Transcendental Meditation is so > compelling. It is gratifying to see our national leaders moving to adopt on a > large scale this simple, effective technique for improving the resilience and > health of the brave men and women who safeguard our country." >  > Copyright 2012, David Lynch Foundation. All rights reserved. >  > > > This message was sent to vedamerlin@... from: > David Lynch Foundation | 654 Madison Avenue - Suite 806 | New York, NY 10065 > Email Marketing by > Unsubscribe  | Forward To a Friend >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > Very nice, thanks for sharing. > > Regarding the Puja, Maharishi allowed doing Puja when > > appropiate, and not only for Initiation many years ago. > > You guys can talk about the "appropiate-ness" [sic] > of doing puja all you want. I'm still rolling my eyes > at the phrase "Maharishi allowed." > > Grown adults talking about someone "allowing" them > to do something? What a waste of a mind. One wonders why we don't see Barry posting hard-core porn to FFL or exposing posters' real names. Couldn't be because he isn't allowed to do it. As long as what Barry claims to believe works as a putdown of a TMer, it's of no consequence that he doesn't acually believe it.
[FairfieldLife] : MILITARY LEADERS PROMOTE TM
National News MILITARY LEADERS, MEDICAL RESEARCHERS PROMOTE TM FOR RESILIENCE AND HEALTH More than 130 military and governmental leaders and medical researchers gathered yesterday at the Army and Navy Club in Washington, D.C. for a national summit on "Resilience, the Brain and Meditation." The meeting investigated the extensive scientific evidence and clinical experience using the Transcendental Meditation technique to promote resilience and overcome post-traumatic stress disorder among active-duty military personnel, veterans, and cadets. W. Scott Gould Deputy Secretary Veterans Administration Candy Crowley, Host CNN's State of the Union Dr. Richard Schneider President, Norwich University Dr. John Hagelin, President David Lynch Foundation The Summit was sponsored by Operation Warrior Wellness, a division of the David Lynch Foundation, and hosted by Candy Crowley, the Emmy Award-winning host of CNN’s "State of the Union with Candy Crowley." Speakers included W. Scott Gould, the deputy secretary at the Veterans Administration; Dr. Richard Schneider, the 23rd president of Norwich University, the oldest private military college in the country, where Transcendental Meditation is being studied as a tool to promote resilience among cadets; Norman Rosenthal, M.D., clinical professor of psychiatry at Georgetown University Medical School and author of the New York Times bestseller Transcendence: Healing and Transformation through Transcendental Meditation; and Col. Brian Rees, M.D., M.P.H., Command Surgeon, 63rd Regional Support Command. The Summit is receiving considerable positive media coverage, including: * The Washington Post (May 4) FULL STORY * Politico, a top-ranked political website read by government leaders in Washington (May 3) FULL STORY Dr. John Hagelin, president of the David Lynch Foundation, who co-hosted the Summit with Candy Crowley and who reported on the positive effects of TM brain functioning, said the leadership in Washington is finally recognizing the benefits of Transcendental Meditation. "The problem of traumatic stress is so daunting, and the research on Transcendental Meditation is so compelling. It is gratifying to see our national leaders moving to adopt on a large scale this simple, effective technique for improving the resilience and health of the brave men and women who safeguard our country." Copyright 2012, David Lynch Foundation. All rights reserved. This message was sent to vedamer...@yahoo.de from: David Lynch Foundation | 654 Madison Avenue - Suite 806 | New York, NY 10065 Email Marketing by Unsubscribe | Forward To a Friend
[FairfieldLife] Re: Morning Meditation
"..we have brought nearly 200 more Pandits to the U.S. At this rate, we will soon achieve 1,250 Maharishi Vedic Pandits in MVC, bringing our super-radiance totals to over 2,000. This is a great and historic achievement!" --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > how many get in the domes? Some 400 to 600, depending on the day. Tends to > > be more in the evenings, fewer in the mornings. The mornings tend to be > > more wakeful. The evenings folks bring a fatigue of the day and can nod off > > more. Spiritually it's nice either way, morning with fewer or evening with > > more. > > -Buck > > If that's men and women it's way down on the IA goal then. What happened to > the rest of you? I guess apathy sets in, it always > did for me after a while. Seems to have inspired you into poetry > though. > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > The Golden Domes yield > > > > A thousand sacred sweets > > > > Before we reach the heav'nly fields, > > > > Or walk the golden streets. > > > > > > > > (fugue) > > > > Then let your songs abound, > > > > And ev'ry tear by dry; > > > > We're marching through > > > > To fairer worlds on high. > > > > > > > > > > How many get into the domes these days? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om, Return Again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Om, revive us! Om, revive us! > > > > > > All our help must come from you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lest for want of Thy assistance, > > > > > > > Every plant should droop and die. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om, revive us! Om, revive us! > > > > > > > All our help must come from you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep no longer at a distance, > > > > > > > > Shower upon us a graceful rain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om, revive us! Om, revive us! > > > > > > > > All our help must come from you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All will come to desolation, > > > > > > > > > Unless Thou return again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om, revive us! Om, revive us! > > > > > > > > > All our help must come from you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om, Visit Thy plantation, > > > > > > > > > > Grant us Om, a gracious rain! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om, revive us! Om, revive us! > > > > > > > > > > All our help must come from you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Heart" is merely another name for the Supreme Spirit, > > > > > > > > > > > because He is in all hearts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The entire Universe is condensed in the body, and the > > > > > > > > > > > entire body in the Heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus the Heart is the nucleus of the whole Universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Ramana Maharshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Come, let us raise our voices high, > > > > > > > > > > > > > And form a sacred song, > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Him who rules the earth and sky, > > > > > > > > > > > > > And does our days prolong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who thru the night gave us to rest, > > > > > > > > > > > > > This morning cheered our eyes; > > > > > > > > > > > > > And with the thousands of the blest, > > > > > > > > > > > > > In health made us to rise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Early to God we'll send our prayer, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Make hast to pray and praise, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That He may make our good His care, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And guide us all our days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And when the night of death comes on, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And we shall end our days; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May His rich grace the theme prolong, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of His eternal praise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: "Sherlock" - A Scandal In Belgravia
TFTR [:x] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > For those who missed it last night in the US, you really > might want to look into whether it's being rebroadcast > sometime this week. The series itself, penned by UK TV > maestros Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss, is never less > than excellent, but this particular episode is the best > of the six I've seen so far. > > The updating of Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson to modern > times technically *shouldn't* work, but it does, mainly > because Moffat and Gatiss really know and understand the > original stories and the original characters. Benedict > Cumberbatch is SO narcissistic and SO unlikable as Holmes > that you really can't help but love him. He's like House > squared. :-) And in this episode the 40+-year-old virgin > meets the babe who he will refer ever afterwards as "The > Woman." She (Irene Adler, who had a similarly powerful > and never-fully-explained presence in Conan-Doyle's > original stories and novels) is *very* well played by > Lara Pulver. There hasn't been "romantic tension between > equals" like this onscreen for decades. > > It's a *very* enjoyable series, and the nature of it > (each episode dealing with one of the stories) means > that you can dive into it with this episode (or any), > without having missed too much that is essential. It > is worth pointing out that Martin Freeman (soon to > appear as Bilbo Baggins in "The Hobbit") is the Best > Watson Ever, just as Cumberbatch is arguably the > Best Holmes Ever. It's the characterization that > matters, not which era it's set in. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW9EUWsvftE > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PhzRmUD4mI > > http://www.salon.com/2012/05/04/sherlocks_masterful_return/ >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara, like Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > "Learning anything without the knowledge of one's guru while still under his > authority constitutes a sin according to the Vedas.[20]" > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adi_Shankara > Yes, but this sounds like Maharishi too and the SRM: "His works in Sanskrit concern themselves with establishing the doctrine of advaita (nondualism). He also established the importance of monastic life as sanctioned in the Upanishads and Brahma Sutra, in a time when the Mimamsa school established strict ritualism and ridiculed monasticism. Shankara represented his works as elaborating on ideas found in the Upanishads, and he wrote copious commentaries on the Vedic canon (Brahma Sutra, principal upanishads and Bhagavad Gita) in support of his thesis. The main opponent in his work is the Mimamsa school of thought, though he also offers arguments against the views of some other schools like Samkhya and certain schools of Buddhism.[3][5][6]"
[FairfieldLife] Shankara and Agricola!
(This is a completely unscientific short rant, just to kill some time...LoL!) Aadi-Shankara was probably born in Kerala. So, let's suppose his native language was related to Tamil (malayalam, or its predecessor?) If that's the case, his mother tongue belonged to the Dravidian languages of Southern India, and was not at all related to Sanskrit. So he had a Sanskrit name, despite of possibly being "Dravidian". The best analogy, or stuff, in Europe we can think of, is Mikael (me-kah-el) Agricola, who had a Latin family name despite of being Finnish. (Originally he was Michael Olaui or Mikkel Olofsson). His first language might have been Swedish. Thus, he is not completely like Shankara, provided the latter actually had a Dravidian language as his first one, because Swedish belongs to IE-languages like Latin, as opposed to Finnish that belongs to the Uralic (Finno-Ugric) languages (and would have been like Malayalam, or somesuch, in the case of Shankara). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adi_Shankara http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikael_Agricola http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayalam
[FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: butt-bouncing in Helsinki could cause women all over Finland to become more beautiful. That is, none at all. mmmh should stop elevating for awhile [:D] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYPhTE6CGsI Yes they are models, celebs.., but in Finland it is illegal to take someone's photo and put it to youtube, with celeb pics it's not that same thing... except they are smart and clever"outspoken" , too-- of course http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxQMHDGXFCU
[FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: butt-bouncing in Helsinki could cause women all over Finland to become more beautiful. That is, none at all. mmmh should stop elevating for awhile [:D] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYPhTE6CGsI Yes they are models, celebs.., but in Finland it is illegal to take someone's photo and put it to youtube, with celeb pics it's not that same thing... except they are smart and clever"outspoken" , too-- of course http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxQMHDGXFCU
[FairfieldLife] Re: Learning might be a sin??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > "Learning anything without the knowledge of one's guru while still under his > authority constitutes a sin according to the Vedas.[20]" > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adi_Shankara > That's not exactly unheard of in Western traditions, either. There are plenty of contexts where independent experimentation is frowned on in a learning environment. L
[FairfieldLife] Learning might be a sin??
"Learning anything without the knowledge of one's guru while still under his authority constitutes a sin according to the Vedas.[20]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adi_Shankara
[FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
For many diabetics, TM + a good diet, controls blood sugar quite well. I'd just be regular with my practice, eat a proper/appropriate (as defined by Western medicine) diet, and check with a physician on a regular basis to see if medication is indicated. Trusting it all to some mental technique or another is probably not a good idea. Look at the rumored issues MMY had with blood sugar. YMMV, of course. L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > Do youse think it could be possible to lower ones blood sugar by > performing Number 10 (the one after the Heavenly Bodies)? > > My blood sugar was slightly too high after 12 hours of fasting. > > The effect of Number 10 (III 31) is 'kSut-pipaasa-nivRttiH' > (hunger-thirst-cessation). Those two are typical symptoms of diabetes > mellitus. > > This morning I tried doing that saMyama. Almost immediately > after I started, the taste in my mouth changed much more pleasant > than it was before, somewhat sweet, I'd say. Furthermore, my > mouth stopped feeling so dry. > > Anyone? >
[FairfieldLife] "Sherlock" - A Scandal In Belgravia
For those who missed it last night in the US, you really might want to look into whether it's being rebroadcast sometime this week. The series itself, penned by UK TV maestros Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss, is never less than excellent, but this particular episode is the best of the six I've seen so far. The updating of Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson to modern times technically *shouldn't* work, but it does, mainly because Moffat and Gatiss really know and understand the original stories and the original characters. Benedict Cumberbatch is SO narcissistic and SO unlikable as Holmes that you really can't help but love him. He's like House squared. :-) And in this episode the 40+-year-old virgin meets the babe who he will refer ever afterwards as "The Woman." She (Irene Adler, who had a similarly powerful and never-fully-explained presence in Conan-Doyle's original stories and novels) is *very* well played by Lara Pulver. There hasn't been "romantic tension between equals" like this onscreen for decades. It's a *very* enjoyable series, and the nature of it (each episode dealing with one of the stories) means that you can dive into it with this episode (or any), without having missed too much that is essential. It is worth pointing out that Martin Freeman (soon to appear as Bilbo Baggins in "The Hobbit") is the Best Watson Ever, just as Cumberbatch is arguably the Best Holmes Ever. It's the characterization that matters, not which era it's set in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW9EUWsvftE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PhzRmUD4mI http://www.salon.com/2012/05/04/sherlocks_masterful_return/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > > > Do youse think it could be possible to lower ones blood sugar by > > performing Number 10 (the one after the Heavenly Bodies)? > > > > My blood sugar was slightly too high after 12 hours of fasting. > > > > The effect of Number 10 (III 31) is 'kSut-pipaasa-nivRttiH' > > (hunger-thirst-cessation). Those two are typical symptoms of > > diabetes mellitus. > > > > This morning I tried doing that saMyama. Almost immediately > > after I started, the taste in my mouth changed much more pleasant > > than it was before, somewhat sweet, I'd say. Furthermore, my > > mouth stopped feeling so dry. > > > > Anyone? > > Possible? In the Magical Thinking Universe, *anything* > is possible. That's why people prefer it to the real one. > > In the real universe, I would say that there is *just* > as much possibility of that happening as a person ever > levitating as a result of the TM "flying" siddhi. Or that > a few people butt-bouncing in Helsinki could cause women > all over Finland to become more beautiful. That is, none > at all. > > You asked. > Transcendence provides what you need, not necessarily what you want. Sometimes getting what you want, doesn't get you where you need to Be. When you need to fly through space, then travel at the speed of thought. Transcend the body; realize the soul. The soul is what is real... The soul is eternal; the body is temperary... I Am That= Atma Am I
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > As many have probably figured out, I have just been > having fun with this "scripture" thread. I knew when > I started it that it would push a few people's buttons. > I also knew that some of them ones whose buttons had > gotten pushed would react by trying to shoot the mes- > senger (moi) rather than deal with how attached they > were to scripture or the idea of it. And I suspected > that their reactions would say (and *demonstrate* more > about the rather questionable value of *believing in* > scripture than I could say in words myself. I submit > that the reactions of Willytex, emptybill, and Judy > have proved my point for me. > > It would have been more interesting if one or more > people who *do* revere scriptures of one sort or > another had attempted to explain WHY they believe > as they do. That would have been a sane and honest > thing to do, reacting to the challenge of an idea > by actually defending the idea. But nooo. > > Personally I think that the "shoot the messenger" > thang is a way for people who DO believe indefensible > things to pretend to "defend" them without ever really > defending them. They play "shoot the messenger" so > that they never have to ADMIT to believing in the > thing the messenger is criticizing. But they DO > believe in it. So much so that when it's criticized, > they feel that it -- and they -- are being "attacked." > The approach is sorta like, "I'm not going to ADMIT > to believing the thing you're challenging, but I'll > attempt to demonize you for challenging it." Just to start the week off right :-), I'll point out that not a single "TM defender" here has tried to make a case for either 1) the need to protect the "purity" of a "tradition" that Maharishi made up, and which has no basis in the actual history of the Shankaracharya tradition, or 2) the value of or authenticity of "scripture." Until one does, I have to believe that my analysis of why they focus *instead* on "shooting the messen- ger" in my last paragraph above is right on. They don't want to actually defend the silly things they believe in, because if they did they'd have to admit that they believed them. "Shooting the messenger" is much more convenient -- you can make a big show of defending the things you believe in without ever owning up to believing in them. :-) :-) :-) Honest people can respond to criticism of ideas they believe in by discussing the actual ideas. Dishonest people can only try to demonize the critic.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > Do youse think it could be possible to lower ones blood sugar by > performing Number 10 (the one after the Heavenly Bodies)? > > My blood sugar was slightly too high after 12 hours of fasting. > > The effect of Number 10 (III 31) is 'kSut-pipaasa-nivRttiH' > (hunger-thirst-cessation). Those two are typical symptoms of > diabetes mellitus. > > This morning I tried doing that saMyama. Almost immediately > after I started, the taste in my mouth changed much more pleasant > than it was before, somewhat sweet, I'd say. Furthermore, my > mouth stopped feeling so dry. > > Anyone? Possible? In the Magical Thinking Universe, *anything* is possible. That's why people prefer it to the real one. In the real universe, I would say that there is *just* as much possibility of that happening as a person ever levitating as a result of the TM "flying" siddhi. Or that a few people butt-bouncing in Helsinki could cause women all over Finland to become more beautiful. That is, none at all. You asked.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > > > > > You are a smart enough guy, Richard, that you don't > > > need to make stuff up to make your points. > > > Xenophaneros: > > Not every procedure in the TMO has existed throughout > > its history. Legalese documents etc., have proliferated > > over the years. > > > So, maybe some teachers didn't agree to a pledge and > others did. But, I didn't make anything up; it was > entered as evidence at the trial in U.S. Malnak v Yogi > way back in 1979 and posted by Mike Doughney at Minit > Org. > > So, lets review the pledge: > > "It is my fortune, Guru Dev, that I have been > accepted to serve the Holy Tradition and spread > the Light of God to all those who need it. It is > my joy to undertake the responsibility of > representing the Holy Tradition in all its purity > as it has been given to me by Maharishi and I > promise on your altar, Guru Dev, that with all > my heart and mind I will always work within the > framework of the Organisations founded by > Maharishi. And to you, Maharishi, I promise that > as a Meditation Guide I will be faithful in all > ways to the trust that you have placed in me." I suppose you took the oath Richard, and promised to "with all > my heart and mind I will always work within the > framework of the Organisations founded by Maharishi." ?
[FairfieldLife] Number 10 and diabetes mellitus?
Do youse think it could be possible to lower ones blood sugar by performing Number 10 (the one after the Heavenly Bodies)? My blood sugar was slightly too high after 12 hours of fasting. The effect of Number 10 (III 31) is 'kSut-pipaasa-nivRttiH' (hunger-thirst-cessation). Those two are typical symptoms of diabetes mellitus. This morning I tried doing that saMyama. Almost immediately after I started, the taste in my mouth changed much more pleasant than it was before, somewhat sweet, I'd say. Furthermore, my mouth stopped feeling so dry. Anyone?
