[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Holding Internet Grudges A Form Of PTSD?
LOL, WB you are too much! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Other side of the wall, AGAIN, Barry. Geez, you are one imprisoned soul. Turn around 180 degrees, as I suggested earlier, watch yet another movie, or TV show, or drink some psychoactive coffee (did you know coffee is the most widely used psychoactive substance on earth?), or have a beer, or visit a hooker. Anything to prevent you from facing the world which upsets you continuously. It is one thing to complain and insult and whine, but the real difference between you and most others who find something to whine about, is the others Get-Over-It. You seem to be so lost in complaining, insulting and whining, that you would rather do that, than getting off that soft, lily-white ass of yours, and doing something about it. Note: Doing something about it means not spending all day pouring over statistics in the FFL archives to yet make a larger complaint. Try facing the REAL world, Barry, where the rest of us live. PS You'll know the difference because life experiences don't begin with a title, and end with rolling credits. You'll figure it out after awhile. Will you marry me? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: In studies I've read recently, researchers have found that those who score highly on a scale of neurotic behavior have a significantly higher risk of developing PTSD if exposed to a traumatic event. In the study, neuroticism was defined as a type of personality behavior in which people experience high degrees of anxiety in response to everyday events, and thus tend to overreact to those ordinary events. The hypothesis was that this tendency to overreact to the ordinary might put them at risk of developing PTSD if they were exposed to an extraordinary traumatic event. Well, the data backed that hypothesis up -- the neurotics *were* more likely to develop PTSD. PTSD is a disorder in which people are trapped in an endless loop of dwelling on and flashing back to the past. Some event triggered an initial reaction to the event, but this reaction fails to fade. It may, in fact, become stronger as time passes, and become very much an overreaction, leading to panic attacks, nightmares, sleep disorders, and resulting in the PTSD sufferers becoming easily startled and prone to emotional outbursts. They dwell on the past, can't get over it, and often attempt to get others to dwell on the same past, to as it were share the misery. Now extrapolate these findings to the Internet, and behavior we see there. Most people are non-neurotic in their everyday Net behavior. Sure, they might get pissed off about something someone says and go FLAME ON for a few posts, but then the next day it's forgotten, and both the flamer and the flamee are having civilized conversations again. Others hang on to perceived affronts longer. In other words, they start to display neurotic behavior, taking an ordinary event and turning it into a Big Fucking Deal, one that they just can't get over. So they may stay in FLAME ON mode for longer than the non-neurotic Net denizens -- a week, or occasionally a couple of weeks. Then there are the ones who hold onto perceived affronts for years. They turn them into vendettas, pursuing the supposed perpetrator of the original affront in thread after thread, even the ones that have nothing to do with whatever was originally considered an affront. They actively attempt to persuade others to dwell on this past affront the way they do, often citing posts *from* the past and encouraging others to read them, so that they can become as affronted by and unable to get over something that happened in the past as the grudgeholder is. Whatever precipitated the original affront, the grudgeholders continue to overreact to any mention of it, or any contact with the supposed perpetrator of the affront as if it happened minutes ago, not years ago. At times it feels -- vibe-wise -- as if they're having actual *flashbacks* of the original event, reliving the emotions it provoked for them in the past all over again. This last behavior strikes me as the Net counterpart of PTSD. That's my theory, anyway. Cyberstalking and holding long-term grudges on the Internet is a form of PTSD. On a spiritual level it's also classic samskaric behavior -- allowing yourself to be ruled by past impressions you can't get over. Maybe if those studies that indicate that TM is helpful in the treatment of PTSD are correct, these long-term Netgrudgeholders could benefit from learning it. Oh. Wait. Many of them already practice TM, and have for several decades. Never mind.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers
I need an editor - I like a simple drip brew From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers Ah ha haI've had their coffee - nice. I like a simply drip brew as well with a dollop of cream. From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 5:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Starbucks - terrible coffee. No flavor, no nuance, no aroma, no taste. Fairfield will have a Caribou Coffee at the brand new HyVee gas station; I think the grand opening is tomorrow. I make coffee at home... Pegasus organic espresso roast from Bainbridge Island, drip brewed, with Radiance Dairy organic heavy cream.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers
Starbuck's chai tea latte is made with a syrup, which annoys me. They *were* a better place when they were small. The independents are the best. From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 6:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Right on! When they were small, they were better - I'm a chai guy - Oregon Chai - for me, tea has a less 'electric' buzz than coffee... Right on Doc. I'm a chai guyess. Has to be a latte though. Starbucks chai's are fine but I like to drink at the independent coffee shops. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Starbucks - terrible coffee.  No flavor, no nuance, no aroma, no taste.  From: doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 2:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers  Speaking of addicts, drive past a Starbucks on a rainy workday morning at 5:30 AM, and the cars are lined up around the building, waiting for the needle. Its pretty creepy! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: You are right, and I misstated your name and used the word life instead of like - it was before I had experienced the psychoactive effect of the coffee I drink every morning, like a good addict should.  At least, that's the best excuse I can come up with for now.  I'm sorry.  From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 10:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Not to worry, Carol.  I've been called creepy too.  Sal and Barry are exercising double standards - it's O.K. for them to trash TM and TM-doers repeatedly, Erm, who does this? but not O.K. for you to post a balanced review of your experience with Mr. Knapp and his counseling services.  Makes no sense at all.  Glad you showed up here and post as much and about whatever you life as often as you like.  There is nothing but benefit to be gained by multiple perspectives.   From: Carol To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 7:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers  Hey Saly.. Thanks for you analysis. But, like Barry, you know little and almost nothing about me or the situation. If you bothered to read before throwing out your analysis, maybe you could state some criticism that is factual and holds some weight. I'm not out to get anyone on my side. Regardless, as I stated to Barry, your impression is noted. As far as Knapp not being around to defend himself, he can come here and defend himself if he so desires; it's a public board. All that said, the Knapp discussion is pretty much dead at this point...except that you bring it up here. Combining yours and Barry's labels toward me, I am a creepy loon. Loons fly, they don't creep. Happy 2013... ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Since I'm obviously one of the people Barry is libeling with the term cyberstalker, I can remember when you used to work out what time Barry made his first post of the day, you'd then triumphantly post this fact as though it proved some point. Dead creepy behaviour, kind of worrying you don't have the self-awareness to realise it. Maybe Carol shouldn't take your analyses at face value? But Carol is a bit creepy too, she turns up here simply to rubbish someone who isn't around to defend themselves to a bunch of people with - what? a presumed shared dislike of TM? Is that what this is about, TM gets criticised here and J Knapp does some criticising too so therefore there must be something deficient with TM critics? Or does she assume we are all good mates and is trying to drive a presumed wedge between anyone who might have TM-free sympathies? Whatever it is, it doesn't come across as a public service announcement, more like some revenge fantasy. The only thing that's obvious is that she needs more therapy to work out why she behaves in this
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Holding Internet Grudges A Form Of PTSD?
Yes, that elicited a good laugh. Ah ha ha...still laughing. Mustgowalk.dog From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 6:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Holding Internet Grudges A Form Of PTSD? LOL, WB you are too much! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Other side of the wall, AGAIN, Barry. Geez, you are one imprisoned soul. Turn around 180 degrees, as I suggested earlier, watch yet another movie, or TV show, or drink some psychoactive coffee (did you know coffee is the most widely used psychoactive substance on earth?), or have a beer, or visit a hooker. Anything to prevent you from facing the world which upsets you continuously. It is one thing to complain and insult and whine, but the real difference between you and most others who find something to whine about, is the others Get-Over-It. You seem to be so lost in complaining, insulting and whining, that you would rather do that, than getting off that soft, lily-white ass of yours, and doing something about it. Note: Doing something about it means not spending all day pouring over statistics in the FFL archives to yet make a larger complaint. Try facing the REAL world, Barry, where the rest of us live. PS You'll know the difference because life experiences don't begin with a title, and end with rolling credits. You'll figure it out after awhile. Will you marry me? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: In studies I've read recently, researchers have found that those who score highly on a scale of neurotic behavior have a significantly higher risk of developing PTSD if exposed to a traumatic event. In the study, neuroticism was defined as a type of personality behavior in which people experience high degrees of anxiety in response to everyday events, and thus tend to overreact to those ordinary events. The hypothesis was that this tendency to overreact to the ordinary might put them at risk of developing PTSD if they were exposed to an extraordinary traumatic event. Well, the data backed that hypothesis up -- the neurotics *were* more likely to develop PTSD. PTSD is a disorder in which people are trapped in an endless loop of dwelling on and flashing back to the past. Some event triggered an initial reaction to the event, but this reaction fails to fade. It may, in fact, become stronger as time passes, and become very much an overreaction, leading to panic attacks, nightmares, sleep disorders, and resulting in the PTSD sufferers becoming easily startled and prone to emotional outbursts. They dwell on the past, can't get over it, and often attempt to get others to dwell on the same past, to as it were share the misery. Now extrapolate these findings to the Internet, and behavior we see there. Most people are non-neurotic in their everyday Net behavior. Sure, they might get pissed off about something someone says and go FLAME ON for a few posts, but then the next day it's forgotten, and both the flamer and the flamee are having civilized conversations again. Others hang on to perceived affronts longer. In other words, they start to display neurotic behavior, taking an ordinary event and turning it into a Big Fucking Deal, one that they just can't get over. So they may stay in FLAME ON mode for longer than the non-neurotic Net denizens -- a week, or occasionally a couple of weeks. Then there are the ones who hold onto perceived affronts for years. They turn them into vendettas, pursuing the supposed perpetrator of the original affront in thread after thread, even the ones that have nothing to do with whatever was originally considered an affront. They actively attempt to persuade others to dwell on this past affront the way they do, often citing posts *from* the past and encouraging others to read them, so that they can become as affronted by and unable to get over something that happened in the past as the grudgeholder is. Whatever precipitated the original affront, the grudgeholders continue to overreact to any mention of it, or any contact with the supposed perpetrator of the affront as if it happened minutes ago, not years ago. At times it feels -- vibe-wise -- as if they're having actual *flashbacks* of the original event, reliving the emotions it provoked for them in the past all over again. This last behavior strikes me as the Net counterpart of PTSD. That's my theory, anyway. Cyberstalking and holding long-term grudges on the Internet is a form of PTSD. On a spiritual level it's also classic samskaric behavior -- allowing yourself to be ruled by past impressions
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Holding Internet Grudges A Form Of PTSD?
You had me at man panties [on you-know-who...]. Thank God THAT won't be searchable... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: LOL, WB you are too much! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Other side of the wall, AGAIN, Barry. Geez, you are one imprisoned soul. Turn around 180 degrees, as I suggested earlier, watch yet another movie, or TV show, or drink some psychoactive coffee (did you know coffee is the most widely used psychoactive substance on earth?), or have a beer, or visit a hooker. Anything to prevent you from facing the world which upsets you continuously. It is one thing to complain and insult and whine, but the real difference between you and most others who find something to whine about, is the others Get-Over-It. You seem to be so lost in complaining, insulting and whining, that you would rather do that, than getting off that soft, lily-white ass of yours, and doing something about it. Note: Doing something about it means not spending all day pouring over statistics in the FFL archives to yet make a larger complaint. Try facing the REAL world, Barry, where the rest of us live. PS You'll know the difference because life experiences don't begin with a title, and end with rolling credits. You'll figure it out after awhile. Will you marry me? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: In studies I've read recently, researchers have found that those who score highly on a scale of neurotic behavior have a significantly higher risk of developing PTSD if exposed to a traumatic event. In the study, neuroticism was defined as a type of personality behavior in which people experience high degrees of anxiety in response to everyday events, and thus tend to overreact to those ordinary events. The hypothesis was that this tendency to overreact to the ordinary might put them at risk of developing PTSD if they were exposed to an extraordinary traumatic event. Well, the data backed that hypothesis up -- the neurotics *were* more likely to develop PTSD. PTSD is a disorder in which people are trapped in an endless loop of dwelling on and flashing back to the past. Some event triggered an initial reaction to the event, but this reaction fails to fade. It may, in fact, become stronger as time passes, and become very much an overreaction, leading to panic attacks, nightmares, sleep disorders, and resulting in the PTSD sufferers becoming easily startled and prone to emotional outbursts. They dwell on the past, can't get over it, and often attempt to get others to dwell on the same past, to as it were share the misery. Now extrapolate these findings to the Internet, and behavior we see there. Most people are non-neurotic in their everyday Net behavior. Sure, they might get pissed off about something someone says and go FLAME ON for a few posts, but then the next day it's forgotten, and both the flamer and the flamee are having civilized conversations again. Others hang on to perceived affronts longer. In other words, they start to display neurotic behavior, taking an ordinary event and turning it into a Big Fucking Deal, one that they just can't get over. So they may stay in FLAME ON mode for longer than the non-neurotic Net denizens -- a week, or occasionally a couple of weeks. Then there are the ones who hold onto perceived affronts for years. They turn them into vendettas, pursuing the supposed perpetrator of the original affront in thread after thread, even the ones that have nothing to do with whatever was originally considered an affront. They actively attempt to persuade others to dwell on this past affront the way they do, often citing posts *from* the past and encouraging others to read them, so that they can become as affronted by and unable to get over something that happened in the past as the grudgeholder is. Whatever precipitated the original affront, the grudgeholders continue to overreact to any mention of it, or any contact with the supposed perpetrator of the affront as if it happened minutes ago, not years ago. At times it feels -- vibe-wise -- as if they're having actual *flashbacks* of the original event, reliving the emotions it provoked for them in the past all over again. This last behavior strikes me as the Net counterpart of PTSD. That's my theory, anyway. Cyberstalking and holding long-term grudges on the Internet is a form of PTSD. On a spiritual level it's also classic samskaric behavior -- allowing yourself to be ruled by past impressions you can't get over. Maybe if those studies that indicate that TM is helpful in the treatment of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Cave of Forgoten Dreams
I saw this in the theatre - it was really moving in an almost indescribable way, I agree. I had enormous difficulty trying to define for myself how it affected me. I would love to hear your personal epiphany if and when you feel so inspired. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 3:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Cave of Forgoten Dreams Wow, how did I miss this? Oldest cave art EVER, and perfectly preserved and SACRED. I was deeply moved. And the ending is pure worship. This is amazing stuff. I watched it first as an acolyte, then as a priest, and in the end I had a personal epiphany -- about which I might yet write, but it was a holy moment by any definition. Edg http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/cave_of_forgotten_dreams/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re- John M Knapp - Johnny Profane + TV reviews
I would have been in panic mode and stressed out, probably would have taken black beauties and stayed up all night - so that I really couldn't think at all and then would have written enough BS to get at least a C. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Love it Doc. Here's another: the students entered the classroom for their final exam in Philosophy 101. On the board was one word: Why? The only student who received an A+ for the course was the student who wrote: Why not? There must have been at least half the class who would have written that, it is so obvious. I would have, wouldn't you? From: doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 11:02 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re- John M Knapp - Johnny Profane + TV reviews  I was inspired by a story I read years ago about the world's shortest written conversation, and I think it was between Proust and his publisher. Proust sent a telegram to his publisher, inquiring about the success of a book, consisting of the single character, ?. The publisher then replied, !. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Fe-ic!:-) ??? My guess: of or pertaining to iron, i.e., irony Smart man. I didn't get it either until you just pointed it out. Nor did I. I refer to the version of it that afflicts Barry as inadvertent Fe-y, but that's giving him the benefit of the doubt, which I suspect he doesn't deserve. I think he knows when he's being hypocritical and simply hopes nobody else will notice. The real Fe-y is that it's so painfully obvious.
[FairfieldLife] Quantum Language
Find out how Bill Clinton was able to dismiss his impeachment trial in Congress. Or, find out how the Freemasons control the entire world economy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br_9lZcTFVMplaynext=1list=PL8AAB1E9B8D1786F8
[FairfieldLife] Madonna - Turn up the Radio
My teen daughter just shared this song with me - pop music follower that she is. She's like Mom, she's 54. Oh dear, oh dear. And she hasn't seen the video yet. I do like the fact that her computer broke and she can't have another until she earns the money to buy it. Now, she's on her ipod though so she will see the video. Madonna is still the queen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkYyqxHdwNg
[FairfieldLife] where I like to live
This is called New Years Day 2013 MD - the MD stands for Mother Divine - not doctor...:-) Thought you might enjoy this, for the beginning of the year! PS Doesn't sound like MMY music, though captures the same sensibilities. Better for dancing, this. :-) https://www.box.com/s/3199oz4soxyqjs8jlxjz (4:30) c2013 templedog (aka doc)
