[FairfieldLife] Word Aversions

[turquoiseb]

It's confirmed...they're phobias.

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/the_good_word/2013/04/word_aversion_hate_moist_slacks_crevice_why_do_people_hate_words.single.html

[FairfieldLife] Hacking The Brain

[turquoiseb]

Remember the movie "Limitless?" And the drug that turned 
Bradley Cooper into such a superbrain? Who knew that it 
was based on a real drug?

http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/modafinil-2013-4/

[FairfieldLife] The Existence of Nothing

[John]

Here's a discussion about nothing.  And, it turned out to be a complicated 
subject than it appears.  One scientist stated that our universe could have 
just started for no reason at all.

Now I'm beginning to understand what MMY was saying in the past in that 
knowledge is different at the various levels of consciousness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OLz6uUuMp8

[FairfieldLife] Uh-oh...Oprah's off the program

[turquoiseb]

Here she is hangin' with Thich Nhat Hanh, one of them dreaded Buddhists.
Nabby will have a cow. :-)
 
[https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/72621_5973750436\
23525_846568786_n.jpg]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just stumbled on this

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> Awesome
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DeNCm-nxgk

Excellent. Your one-word comment says it all.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Fairfield, v1.0

[turquoiseb]

Excellent. That's *real*, and a celebration of the 
little things in life that make life worth living. No
one had to "change the world," no one had to be all
enlightened, and no one seemed in need of deeper
meaning or importance. 

Just as you say about a balsamic reduction, the Law
Of Nature of a good "life reduction" seems to be to
just simmer life slowly, without adding all that other
crap like spirituality and self-importance.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> Despite being the laziest person on the planet, overeating at Rory and Rena's 
> Easter potluck, sleeping like crap, and dragging my sorry carcass out of bed 
> at 7am, I actually had a very productive day. 
> 
> First project: I decided to upgrade the iMac that serves up 
> http://alex.natel.net/ from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion. And rather than 
> simply running the downloaded upgrade app, I extracted the install data from 
> the download and used it to create a bootable USB flash drive. That way, I 
> always have bootable media from which to reinstall the OS, even if the hard 
> drive shits the bed.
> 
> Second project: Putting together an EP-960 Teeter Hang Up inversion table. 
> The written instructions that come with it are worthless, and just as I was 
> about to call up the company and rip 'em a new one, I remembered the DVD that 
> came with it. So, I fired it up, and sure enough, the DVD has a chapter that 
> perfectly demonstrates proper assembly. Duh.
> 
> Getting back to the potluck...
> 
> Law of Nature: The positively absolutely unmistakably *BEST* way to cook 
> boneless skinless chicken breast is sous vide at 140 deg F for 3 hours.
> 
> My favorite source of external validation is cooking outstanding food for 
> potlucks, and potlucks chez Rory and Rena are great because they are a 
> meat-friendly household. So, on Saturday morning, I cooked a couple organic 
> chicken breasts at 140 deg F for 3 hours and then popped the bag into the 
> fridge until Sunday morning. I then made some balsamic vinegar reduction, 
> using a recipe I found online that called for balsamic vinegar, soy sauce, 
> and brown sugar. Big mistake.
> 
> Law of Nature: The *ONLY* ingredient in a balsamic vinegar reduction is 
> balsamic vinegar.
> 
> The soy sauce and sugar ruined it, so I tossed it down the drain and made a 
> fresh batch in accord with Natural Law. 
> 
> Rena was going to make roast lamb, and I suggested she buy some Crosse & 
> Blackwell mint sauce, which is a vinegar based mint sauce, instead of that 
> godawful, radioactive green, jelly crap. She couldn't find any, so I made my 
> own version of it. I made a cider vinegar reduction, sweetened it with 
> jaggery, and infused mint leaves in the hot reduction. 
> 
> I woke up Sunday morning and did my usual Sunday ritual: had my coffee, 
> turned on the far infrared sauna, and watched CBS Sunday Morning from inside 
> the sauna. After that, I hit the kitchen. First task: make lime-ginger flash 
> pickles. Inspired by this video:
> 
> http://youtu.be/yuDFFJ2mazg
> 
> I make a pickling liquid from either fresh squeezed lemons or limes and then 
> use a vacuum canister and the vacuum port on my foodvac to vacuum infuse the 
> liquid into the cucumber slices. This time, I used limes, and for the first 
> time, used the single-gear juicer to make fresh ginger juice to add to the 
> citrus. In the future, I won't add quite so much ginger, as the pickles were 
> a bit medicinally bitter. I almost didn't bring them to the potluck, but I'm 
> glad I did because people LOVED them. 
> 
> Second task: make the chicken breast hors d'oeuvres. I cut the chicken breast 
> into neat little rectangles and topped them with fresh basil and/or fresh 
> tarragon and half a cherry tomato, with a toothpick holding them together. 
> Then I drizzled them with the balsamic vinegar reduction. I tried one and was 
> totally blown away... unbelievably delicious. What's great about cooking 
> chicken at 140 degrees is that very little liquid separates out; it's fully 
> cooked, and any microorganisms are destroyed, but the meat is not subject to 
> higher temperatures where the proteins contract and express out all the 
> moisture. At the potluck, the chicken breast was a HUGE hit; people raved 
> about it, and they polished off the entire platter.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[Emily Reyn]

Good one Steve.  Smiley face.  



>
> From: seventhray27 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 9:01 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement
> 
>
>  
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEpCud53c2s
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>>
>> "They are also waiting for a few more people to die off..."  Excellent 
>> strategy to avoid conflict.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> > From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@...
>> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>> >Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 8:33 PM
>> >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement
>> > 
>> >
>> >  
>> >Nice post Wayback,
>> >JTowbridge,
>> >I did send the link to your FFL letter earlier this morning directly over 
>> >to Dr. John Hagelin right after you posted it on FFL. He responded back to 
>> >me immediately too before I went to the Dome. I'm just in from the day's 
>> >farm work now. The work is going long in the fields with spring upon us 
>> >now. I stopped earlier and meditated along in time with the large group 
>> >tonite while I was on my tractor. Frankly the New TM Movement is 
>> >incorporating more over-sight and process within its workings. It's dynamic 
>> >and changing. Things started changing from back before and around when 
>> >Maharishi died. There are different elements within it still including some 
>> >strict preservationists who obstruct change but things are also 
>> >progressive. I would say from talking with folks inside that some yet are 
>> >essentially afraid to be more transparent in process because they fear 
>> >someone like MJ coming along and being negative. But in a direction of more 
>> >transparency is
>> coming. The strict preservationists have nothing to fear but fear itself. I 
>> think your paper is a good common-sense advocacy for better management 
>> practices that are actively being figured out more by committee process as J 
>> Hagelin has been setting about engaging people in that kind of process. They 
>> are also waiting for a few more people to die off as there is an active 
>> preparing of a younger set going on to take over. These are very exciting 
>> times within TM. It is in re-set. I agree, may the Unified Field save the 
>> group meditation.
>> >-Buck 
>> >
>> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wayback71@ wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I too really enjoyed your post, Mr Trowbridge. It was genuine and so 
>> >> right on. Loved your points about conflict. In the name of being 
>> >> "positive," so much has been overlooked, not dealt with, and repressed. 
>> >> At every level. And for those whose very livelihood revolved around all 
>> >> this for some years, it took a real toll. The frustration of trying to 
>> >> get a "problem" dealt with was incredible - because the person was 
>> >> considered to be unstressing or negative. A really unhealthy system 
>> >> evolved. Anyway, you said it all so well and I thank you for that.
>> >> I suspect that in posting it here on FFL, it will be read by the people 
>> >> you are talking to. My guess is that the big issue on the inside is 
>> >> whether to try and mimic exactly how MMY ran the TMO or whether to modify 
>> >> that so as to appeal to more people. Not modify the teaching, but the 
>> >> organization, how it is run, the way rules are "enforced," how to handle 
>> >> conflict. I think a lot will depend on how that unfolds now and in the 
>> >> next decade as Bevan and John and the rajas begin to retire. Not that the 
>> >> TMO needs to become a corporate place, but it is all so very fuzzy and 
>> >> odd and seemingly going to end with our generation unless things change. 
>> >> Too much garbage being dragged along to interest the younger generation. 
>> >> But TM is pure gold for you? Lucky guy. 
>> >> 
>> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jwtrowbridge"  
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you, a beautiful response, and I will carry on. I go by my own 
>> >> > experiences. This has always been my guide, and my experiences daily 
>> >> > have been magnificent. The program is pure gold. Thanks,
>> >> > 
>> >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > 
>> >> > > 
>> >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Thanks John, beautiful post in it's positivity. And unique on this 
>> >> > > > forum because you are one of perhaps only 5 posters here altogether 
>> >> > > > that does TM regularily and have a non-agressive take on the TMO. 
>> >> > > > So your idea of sending it here was perhaps a bit too enthusiastic, 
>> >> > > > it will unfortunately only fuel more vile attacs on the TMO from 
>> >> > > > the regulars here, most of whom have not done TM in decades.
>> >> > > > 
>> >> > > > Aside from that it is impossible to disagree with you on any point, 
>> >> > > > except for perhaps the most important; your idea that the
>> >> >

[FairfieldLife] Just stumbled on this

[seventhray27]

Awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DeNCm-nxgk

[FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[seventhray27]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEpCud53c2s



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn 
wrote:
>
> "They are also waiting for a few more people to die off..." Â
Excellent strategy to avoid conflict. Â
>
>
>
> >
> > From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@...
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 8:33 PM
> >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement
> >
> >
> >Â
> >Nice post Wayback,
> >JTowbridge,
> >I did send the link to your FFL letter earlier this morning directly
over to Dr. John Hagelin right after you posted it on FFL. He responded
back to me immediately too before I went to the Dome. I'm just in from
the day's farm work now. The work is going long in the fields with
spring upon us now. I stopped earlier and meditated along in time with
the large group tonite while I was on my tractor. Frankly the New TM
Movement is incorporating more over-sight and process within its
workings. It's dynamic and changing. Things started changing from back
before and around when Maharishi died. There are different elements
within it still including some strict preservationists who obstruct
change but things are also progressive. I would say from talking with
folks inside that some yet are essentially afraid to be more transparent
in process because they fear someone like MJ coming along and being
negative. But in a direction of more transparency is
> coming. The strict preservationists have nothing to fear but fear
itself. I think your paper is a good common-sense advocacy for better
management practices that are actively being figured out more by
committee process as J Hagelin has been setting about engaging people in
that kind of process. They are also waiting for a few more people to die
off as there is an active preparing of a younger set going on to take
over. These are very exciting times within TM. It is in re-set. I agree,
may the Unified Field save the group meditation.
> >-Buck
> >
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wayback71@ wrote:
> >>
> >> I too really enjoyed your post, Mr Trowbridge. It was genuine and
so right on. Loved your points about conflict. In the name of being
"positive," so much has been overlooked, not dealt with, and repressed.
At every level. And for those whose very livelihood revolved around all
this for some years, it took a real toll. The frustration of trying to
get a "problem" dealt with was incredible - because the person was
considered to be unstressing or negative. A really unhealthy system
evolved. Anyway, you said it all so well and I thank you for that.
> >> I suspect that in posting it here on FFL, it will be read by the
people you are talking to. My guess is that the big issue on the inside
is whether to try and mimic exactly how MMY ran the TMO or whether to
modify that so as to appeal to more people. Not modify the teaching, but
the organization, how it is run, the way rules are "enforced," how to
handle conflict. I think a lot will depend on how that unfolds now and
in the next decade as Bevan and John and the rajas begin to retire. Not
that the TMO needs to become a corporate place, but it is all so very
fuzzy and odd and seemingly going to end with our generation unless
things change. Too much garbage being dragged along to interest the
younger generation.
> >> But TM is pure gold for you? Lucky guy.
> >>
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jwtrowbridge"
 wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Thank you, a beautiful response, and I will carry on. I go by my
own experiences. This has always been my guide, and my experiences daily
have been magnificent. The program is pure gold. Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 
wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 
wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks John, beautiful post in it's positivity. And unique on
this forum because you are one of perhaps only 5 posters here altogether
that does TM regularily and have a non-agressive take on the TMO. So
your idea of sending it here was perhaps a bit too enthusiastic, it will
unfortunately only fuel more vile attacs on the TMO from the regulars
here, most of whom have not done TM in decades.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Aside from that it is impossible to disagree with you on any
point, except for perhaps the most important; your idea that the
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "The goal of this organization is not to appeal to a
particular leader or person, but to the widest possible audience who
will appreciate and practice the TM program in its purity."
> >> > > > and
> >> > > > "reach the widest possible audience who will appreciate
and practice the TM program in its purity. This is the goal. This is
what the TM organization is about."
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This is a widespread misunderstanding due largely to being
stuck in Maharishi's old thinking or having been exposed only to this
timeframe of M

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[Emily Reyn]

"They are also waiting for a few more people to die off..."  Excellent strategy 
to avoid conflict.  



>
> From: Buck 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 8:33 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement
> 
>
>  
>Nice post Wayback,
>JTowbridge,
>I did send the link to your FFL letter earlier this morning directly over to 
>Dr. John Hagelin right after you posted it on FFL.  He responded back to me 
>immediately too before I went to the Dome.  I'm just in from the day's farm 
>work now.  The work is going long in the fields with spring upon us now.  I 
>stopped earlier and meditated along in time with the large group tonite while 
>I was on my tractor.  Frankly the New TM Movement is incorporating more 
>over-sight and process within its workings.  It's dynamic and changing.  
>Things started changing from back before and around when Maharishi died.  
>There are different elements within it still including some strict 
>preservationists who obstruct change but things are also progressive.  I would 
>say from talking with folks inside that some yet are essentially afraid to be  
>more transparent in process because they fear someone like MJ coming along and 
> being negative.  But in a direction of more transparency is
 coming.  The strict preservationists have nothing to fear but fear itself.  I 
think your paper is a good common-sense advocacy for better management 
practices that are actively being figured out more by committee process as J 
Hagelin has been setting about engaging people in that kind of process.  They 
are also waiting for a few more people to die off as there is an active 
preparing of a younger set going on to take over.  These are very exciting 
times within TM. It is in re-set.  I agree, may the Unified Field save the 
group meditation.
>-Buck 
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
>>
>> I too really enjoyed your post, Mr Trowbridge.  It was genuine and so right 
>> on. Loved your points about conflict. In the name of being "positive," so 
>> much has been overlooked, not dealt with, and repressed.  At every level. 
>> And for those whose very livelihood revolved around all this for some years, 
>> it took a real toll. The frustration of trying to get a "problem" dealt with 
>> was incredible - because the person was considered to be unstressing or 
>> negative. A really unhealthy system evolved. Anyway, you said it all so well 
>> and I thank you for that.
>>   I suspect that in posting it here on FFL, it will be read by the people 
>> you are talking to.  My guess is that the big issue on the inside is whether 
>> to try and mimic exactly how MMY ran the TMO or whether to modify that so as 
>> to appeal to more people.  Not modify the teaching, but the organization, 
>> how it is run, the way rules are "enforced,"  how to handle conflict. I 
>> think a lot will depend on how that unfolds now and in the next decade as 
>> Bevan and John and the rajas begin to retire.   Not that the TMO needs to 
>> become a corporate place, but it is all so very fuzzy and odd and seemingly 
>> going to end with our generation unless things change. Too much garbage 
>> being dragged along to interest the younger generation. 
>>  But TM is pure gold for you?   Lucky guy. 
>> 
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jwtrowbridge"  
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thank you, a beautiful response, and I will carry on. I go by my own 
>> > experiences. This has always been my guide, and my experiences daily have 
>> > been magnificent. The program is pure gold. Thanks,
>> > 
>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks John, beautiful post in it's positivity. And unique on this 
>> > > > forum because you are one of perhaps only 5 posters here altogether 
>> > > > that does TM regularily and have a non-agressive take on the TMO. So 
>> > > > your idea of sending it here was perhaps a bit too enthusiastic, it 
>> > > > will unfortunately only fuel more vile attacs on the TMO from the 
>> > > > regulars here, most of whom have not done TM in decades.
>> > > > 
>> > > > Aside from that it is impossible to disagree with you on any point, 
>> > > > except for perhaps the most important; your idea that the
>> > > > 
>> > > > "The goal of this organization is not to appeal to a particular leader 
>> > > > or person, but to the widest possible audience who will appreciate and 
>> > > > practice the TM program in its purity."
>> > > > and
>> > > > "reach the widest possible audience who will appreciate and 
>> > > > practice the TM program in its purity. This is the goal. This is what 
>> > > > the TM organization is about." 
>> > > > 
>> > > > This is a widespread misunderstanding due largely to being stuck in 
>> > > > Maharishi's old thinking or having been exposed only to this timef

[FairfieldLife] Just found this extra inspiring

[seventhray27]

I think she has quite a gift for speaking

http://www.thedailybeast.com/videos/2013/02/04/malala-s-new-life.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[Buck]

Nice post Wayback,
JTowbridge,
I did send the link to your FFL letter earlier this morning directly over to 
Dr. John Hagelin right after you posted it on FFL.  He responded back to me 
immediately too before I went to the Dome.  I'm just in from the day's farm 
work now.  The work is going long in the fields with spring upon us now.  I 
stopped earlier and meditated along in time with the large group tonite while I 
was on my tractor.  Frankly the New TM Movement is incorporating more 
over-sight and process within its workings.  It's dynamic and changing.  Things 
started changing from back before and around when Maharishi died.  There are 
different elements within it still including some strict preservationists who 
obstruct change but things are also progressive.  I would say from talking with 
folks inside that some yet are essentially afraid to be  more transparent in 
process because they fear someone like MJ coming along and  being negative.  
But in a direction of more transparency is coming.  The strict preservationists 
have nothing to fear but fear itself.  I think your paper is a good 
common-sense advocacy for better management practices that are actively being 
figured out more by committee process as J Hagelin has been setting about 
engaging people in that kind of process.  They are also waiting for a few more 
people to die off as there is an active preparing of a younger set going on to 
take over.  These are very exciting times within TM. It is in re-set.  I agree, 
may the Unified Field save the group meditation.
-Buck  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
>
> I too really enjoyed your post, Mr Trowbridge.  It was genuine and so right 
> on. Loved your points about conflict. In the name of being "positive," so 
> much has been overlooked, not dealt with, and repressed.  At every level. And 
> for those whose very livelihood revolved around all this for some years, it 
> took a real toll. The frustration of trying to get a "problem" dealt with was 
> incredible - because the person was considered to be unstressing or negative. 
> A really unhealthy system evolved. Anyway, you said it all so well and I 
> thank you for that.
>   I suspect that in posting it here on FFL, it will be read by the people you 
> are talking to.  My guess is that the big issue on the inside is whether to 
> try and mimic exactly how MMY ran the TMO or whether to modify that so as to 
> appeal to more people.  Not modify the teaching, but the organization, how it 
> is run, the way rules are "enforced,"  how to handle conflict. I think a lot 
> will depend on how that unfolds now and in the next decade as Bevan and John 
> and the rajas begin to retire.   Not that the TMO needs to become a corporate 
> place, but it is all so very fuzzy and odd and seemingly going to end with 
> our generation unless things change. Too much garbage being dragged along to 
> interest the younger generation. 
>  But TM is pure gold for you?   Lucky guy.  
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jwtrowbridge"  wrote:
> >
> > Thank you, a beautiful response, and I will carry on. I go by my own 
> > experiences. This has always been my guide, and my experiences daily have 
> > been magnificent. The program is pure gold. Thanks,
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks John, beautiful post in it's positivity. And unique on this 
> > > > forum because you are one of perhaps only 5 posters here altogether 
> > > > that does TM regularily and have a non-agressive take on the TMO. So 
> > > > your idea of sending it here was perhaps a bit too enthusiastic, it 
> > > > will unfortunately only fuel more vile attacs on the TMO from the 
> > > > regulars here, most of whom have not done TM in decades.
> > > > 
> > > > Aside from that it is impossible to disagree with you on any point, 
> > > > except for perhaps the most important; your idea that the
> > > > 
> > > > "The goal of this organization is not to appeal to a particular leader 
> > > > or person, but to the widest possible audience who will appreciate and 
> > > > practice the TM program in its purity."
> > > > and
> > > > "reach the widest possible audience who will appreciate and 
> > > > practice the TM program in its purity. This is the goal. This is what 
> > > > the TM organization is about." 
> > > > 
> > > > This is a widespread misunderstanding due largely to being stuck in 
> > > > Maharishi's old thinking or having been exposed only to this timeframe 
> > > > of Maharishi's philosophy on video, strategies that were perfect until 
> > > > about 1985. As the Age of Enlightenment grew and became an irreversible 
> > > > process the old thinking based on the individual was replaced with the 
> > > > concern for groups, and ultimately the whole world. Already in 1980, 
> > > > after having prevented the WWII du

[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Xeno wrote:
> > > > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > > > Who here wants their miserable 
> > > > > > > > > little life to continue forever? 
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You're sure it'll be just a continuation
> > > > > > > > of your miserable little life forever, are
> > > > > > > > you?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Well, actually no. But I imagine some think of 
> > > > > > > it this way. That somehow, if one lives 
> > > > > > > forever, that will be better than the same 
> > > > > > > thing lasting a short time.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > My point was that there are more ways of
> > > > > > thinking of eternal life for the individual than
> > > > > > as a continuation of one's miserable little life
> > > > > > forever.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Of course. There are many ways to imagine this. My question is 'does 
> > > > > eternal life have anything to do with individuality?' If a person who 
> > > > > thinks of themselves as an individual entity, a soul, entertains the 
> > > > > idea of immortality, can they meaningfully conceive of eternity free 
> > > > > of that conceptual model?
> > > > 
> > > > You mean the conceptual model in which eternal life for
> > > > the individual is just a continuation of one's miserable
> > > > little life forever?
> > > > 
> > > > Er, yes. That's what I was saying, you see, when I wrote,
> > > > "There are more ways of thinking..." etc.
> > > 
> > > The words 'Of course' were meant to acknowledge what you said.
> > 
> > Yes, I know that. ??? That wasn't what I was addressing. I 
> > was asking what conceptual model you were talking about. If
> > it was the "continuation of one's miserable little life
> > forever," I was puzzled because I had just addressed that,
> > pointing out that it was hardly the only conceptual model
> > available.
> > 
> > > One could also imagine having a very happy fulfilled life
> > > that one would also want to continue indefinitely. My point
> > > is, is it possible for a person who thinks of themselves as
> > > an individual entity to accurately visualise an eternal
> > > state that does not contain individuality as its centrepiece?
> > > That immortality, undeath, is not a function of some
> > > individuality surviving? Does 'eternal life' as it is called,
> > > even have a conceptual model that can underscore its nature?
> > 
> > Since we don't know whether eternal life is a reality,
> > much less what its nature would be if it is, one
> > conceptual model is as good as another.
> > 
> > My point is that the continuation of one's life, whether
> > miserable or happy, is not the only possible way of
> > conceptualizing eternal life, except in the most general
> > sense: the maintenance of one's existence as oppposed to
> > its extinction.
> > 
> > Eternal life need not resemble one's earthly life at all.
> > It may have no temporal component, or spatial component,
> > for that matter. It may have no physical component. It may
> > have no sensory component, at least as we know it. There
> > may be no such thing as action as we know it.
> > Individuality may be of a very different order.
> > 
> > It's astonishing to me that anyone would expect eternal
> > life to be just like one's present life, only forever. That
> > strikes me as a truly massive failure of the imagination.
> > 
> > I've been reading an amazing book by Carlos Eire titled
> > "A Very Brief History of Eternity." His discussion of
> > the role that the concept of eternity played in the life
> > of pre-Reformation Europe is spellbinding and revelatory.
> > To refer to it as merely a "concept" in this context is
> > to significantly understate the case. It may have had its
> > disadvantages, but the spiritual richness bestowed by
> > belief in eternity and eternal life during that period is
> > incontestable. Did we lose more than we gained when Martin
> > Luther appeared on the scene?
> >
> Nice response. You brought up a number of possibilities that did not occur to 
> me. Without Luther, we would not have had Bach. What kind of spiritual 
> richness might come from the idea that we have just one shot at it, and we 
> have to succeed before we die? That seems to be the gist of enlightenment and 
> the end of rebirth which then is understood in a completely different way 
> than it is usually interpreted. At the same time eternal life might be 
> exactly the same as what we experience every day.

See, nobody has a clue.

[FairfieldLife] Group Meditating

[Buck]

Strive to become one with the Unified Field in this lifetime. Have firm faith 
in the Vedas, shastras and all the laws of Nature and keep the company of those 
wise people who also have faith in them. Only then will the purpose of your 
life be fulfilled.
-Buck in the Dome

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Will LBS soon publish the words of Guru DEV? Some stand ready 2 assist him in that!!

[Richard J. Williams]

wleed3:
> Will LBS soon publish the words of Guru DEV? 
>
"In reality, the aim of life is to stop the mind from 
involvement with this world. If one engages in the 
spiritual practice of Bhagavan and in thinking and 
speaking about Him, the mind will start dwelling on 
Him, and after some time, it will withdraw from 
samsara on its own." - Swami Brahmananda Saraswati

http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm

'Rocks Are Melting'
The Everyday Teachings of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati 
[Jagadguru Shankaracharya, Jyotir Math, Himalayas, 
1941-53] 
Translation Edited and Annotation by Cynthia A. Humes 
Edited and Introduction by L. B. Shriver 
Compiled by Rameswar Tiwari 
Clear River Press, 2001 
http://tinyurl.com/6nl5ml

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[Michael Jackson]

Except that if such a video existed, it was a lie - TM as it is practiced by 
the leaders of the TMO IS a religion - a sightly altered form of Hinduism - 
just look at the celebrations they have all the time - all Hindu celebrations





 From: sparaig 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 7:13 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jwtrowbridge"  
wrote:
[...]
> For lack of a better expression, I would like to suggest that their needs to 
> be a separation of church and state. The church is the purity of the 
> knowledge, and the state is how TM is administrated, the organization. The 
> organization should consider some of the principles I have suggested. There 
> is nothing wrong with conflict. Conflict is just an opportunity to solve a 
> problem. It is how something maladaptive, and disorganized becomes beautiful.
> 

At one point in time MMY directed that all TM centers would be run by the 
"sidhi parliament," comprised of all the local meditators, while the teaching 
duties would remain with the TM teachers.

The TM teachers, seeing their priesthood threatened, ignored him and insisted 
in running "their" centers, their way.

Another time, MMY heard that TM teachers were making the puja a standard ritual 
in their own lives in all circumstances and released a video to be shown to all 
meditators everywhere, where he discussed why he had ensured that TM wasn't a 
religion. It was shown once, as far as I know, and then virtually every center 
in the world appears to have conveniently lost track of it, with many gung-ho 
TMers denying that it ever existed.

L

L


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Being Special

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Some time ago I posed the question that if, as Marshy always claimed, TM is 
> better, superior to all other meditations, how can that be so, what makes TM 
> special?
> 
> In addition to being reviled for supposedly setting up a condition which 
> would allow me to take shots at the TMO, I was told that it was not the 
> mantras that are successful, but rather the fantastic instruction on how to 
> use said mantras.
> 
> Complete horseshit. If that were the case, then you really could use any word 
> as long as you used it the way Marshy told everyone to use his mantras. And 
> we know that ain't right. 
> 
> The mantras are as good as any others but even you true believers have said 
> the mantras are not superior to others, its the WAY they are used. But if its 
> the instruction, then any word should do, so why have the mantras at all?
> 
> So with TM being special, it has to either be the mantras or the way you use 
> them or a combination - I don't see the instruction as being all that special 
> - its not much different than other meditations including Deepak Chopra's 
> Primordial Sound meditation and others where you are told to just not pay 
> attention to thoughts and bring the awareness back to whatever when you 
> notice you are on a thought.
> 
> Thus we can see quite clearly that the idea that TM is a superior meditation, 
> or as Marshy put it, the "jet plane" to enlightenment is complete nonsense, 
> or to be more precise, a lie.
> 
> Now of course if one believes Mark Landau, then one knows that mantras are 
> repeated to actually receive the blessings of whatever
>  goddess the sound is associated with - in other words its about doing a 
> practice to git something, its about accrual of power, not transcending to 
> gain enlightenment.
> 
> Oh and Richard W, we all know the blabbity blab blab about all things TM 
> coming from some Buddhist temple or other so no need to repeat it.
> 
> And I was not setting up a situation to enable me to revile the Movement - I 
> can do that all on my own. As I have said before, I am willing to believe 
> anything, but not without evidence.
> 
> Thus far, the evidence I have collected has shown me that Marshy was a liar, 
> perhaps well intentioned in the beginning but soon after he left India he 
> allowed himself to be seduced by the blandishments of the ego. 
> 
> The evidence I have also shows me that TM is a decent meditation, but no more 
> special than anything else available and yet most of the claims made for it 
> are false, such as enlightenment accruing from said practice and ability to 
> fly etc, also all claims made of TM Sidhis are false (like world peace).
> 
> The evidence is that TM has caused many problems on multiple levels for 
> thousands of people, and that thousands of others have ceased the practice 
> due to many reasons. 
> 
> Other evidence is that long term practice doesn't lead to any kind of 
> superlative behavior as demonstrated by the TMO leaders and managers. Given 
> the downside of TM, the evidence is that other meditations are far superior 
> to TM since few of them have the kind of baggage that TM has.
>
If TM has failed you, has anything else taken its place and succeeded in 
whatever it is you are aiming at? Techniques and practices have a lifetime. 
Like a multi-stage rocket, where the lower stages fall away to get the payload 
in orbit, at some point spiritual machinations wear thin. But by then one 
should be close to a significant result.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Being Special

[Richard J. Williams]

Michael Jackson:
> Richard W, we all know the blabbity blab blab about 
> all things TM coming from some Buddhist temple or 
> other so no need to repeat it...
>
So, let's sum up what we know.

Most historians agree that the enlightenment tradition
came from the pre-Vedic practices in India - there's
no mention of Yoga in the Vedas and there's no mention
of any bija mantra usage.

The historical Buddha (circa 463 B.C) was the founder 
of the enlightenment tradition in India. 

Buddha taught yoga, what Eliade terms introspective 
'enstasis'. Yoga was later systematized by Patanjali 
(circa 200 B.C.). This all explainedin Eliade's 
definitive book on yoga cited below. According to 
Eliade, the yoga system is unique to South Asia.

Shakya the Muni defined 'enlightenment' as the
dispelling of the illusion of the individual 
soul-monad. Patanjali pretty much agrees with this; 
Patanjali taught *isolation* of the Purusha from the 
prakriti by yogic means. 

"Confusion arises from erroneously identifying words, 
objects, and ideas with one another; knowledge of the 
cries of all creatures comes through perfect 
discipline of the distinctions between them" (Yoga 
Sutra 3.17). 

'Yoga: Immortality and Freedom'
by Mircea Eliade
Princeton, Bollengen Foundation
Second Edition 1969
Paper: 0-691-01764-6
The standard text on Yoga; scholarly; definitive, by 
the author of 'Shamanism', The Myth of the Eternal 
Return, History of Religious Ideas, etc.
p. 264

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Fairfield, v1.0

[Emily Reyn]

Ha ha ha...yes, I breezed over the term "sous vide."  I'm not that good a cook 
- just looked it up - sounds a bit complicated for my skill level.  I just 
started cooking two years ago and then took last year off, mostly, except for a 
few good soups.  Oh dear, oh dear. I'm ready to pick it up again though.  
Perhaps I'll just go with a traditional cooking method for a naked chicken 
breast (not leaving the meat alone to dry out while I go out and mow the lawn) 
and start playing around with reductionssmile.  Your inspired post has 
inspired me



>
> From: Alex Stanley 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 6:55 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Fairfield, v1.0
> 
>
>  
>
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>>
>> Fabulous Alex!  I will try this for a boneless, skinless chicken
>> breast (although I like the skin, I sometimes buy them).  9.5
>> times out of 10 I overcook them and they come out dry - sauce or
>> no sauce.  They can be undercooked one minute and overcooked the
>> next.  I had given up.  
>
>Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but you need a special "water oven" to cook sous 
>vide. Chefs first started cooking this way using laboratory grade water baths, 
>which cost $1000+. Some years ago, a company that makes digital temperature 
>controllers came out with a $120 unit into which you plug in a crock pot or 
>rice cooker, filled with water, and the controller turns the electricity on 
>and off, keeping the water at exactly the temperature it's set at. That's the 
>set-up I use, but there's now a company that makes a reasonably priced 
>consumer water bath:
>
>http://www.sousvidesupreme.com/
>
>Still kinda pricey, and for best results, you should have a foodvac for vacuum 
>packing the food to be cooked. If you already own a crock pot, and you have 
>$150 burning a hole in your pocket, you can still get the latest version of 
>the unit I use:
>
>http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=44
>
>
> 
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Xeno wrote:
> > > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > > Who here wants their miserable 
> > > > > > > > little life to continue forever? 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You're sure it'll be just a continuation
> > > > > > > of your miserable little life forever, are
> > > > > > > you?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Well, actually no. But I imagine some think of 
> > > > > > it this way. That somehow, if one lives 
> > > > > > forever, that will be better than the same 
> > > > > > thing lasting a short time.
> > > > > 
> > > > > My point was that there are more ways of
> > > > > thinking of eternal life for the individual than
> > > > > as a continuation of one's miserable little life
> > > > > forever.
> > > > 
> > > > Of course. There are many ways to imagine this. My question is 'does 
> > > > eternal life have anything to do with individuality?' If a person who 
> > > > thinks of themselves as an individual entity, a soul, entertains the 
> > > > idea of immortality, can they meaningfully conceive of eternity free of 
> > > > that conceptual model?
> > > 
> > > You mean the conceptual model in which eternal life for
> > > the individual is just a continuation of one's miserable
> > > little life forever?
> > > 
> > > Er, yes. That's what I was saying, you see, when I wrote,
> > > "There are more ways of thinking..." etc.
> > 
> > The words 'Of course' were meant to acknowledge what you said.
> 
> Yes, I know that. ??? That wasn't what I was addressing. I 
> was asking what conceptual model you were talking about. If
> it was the "continuation of one's miserable little life
> forever," I was puzzled because I had just addressed that,
> pointing out that it was hardly the only conceptual model
> available.
> 
> > One could also imagine having a very happy fulfilled life
> > that one would also want to continue indefinitely. My point
> > is, is it possible for a person who thinks of themselves as
> > an individual entity to accurately visualise an eternal
> > state that does not contain individuality as its centrepiece?
> > That immortality, undeath, is not a function of some
> > individuality surviving? Does 'eternal life' as it is called,
> > even have a conceptual model that can underscore its nature?
> 
> Since we don't know whether eternal life is a reality,
> much less what its nature would be if it is, one
> conceptual model is as good as another.
> 
> My point is that the continuation of one's life, whether
> miserable or happy, is not the only possible way of
> conceptualizing eternal life, except in the most general
> sense: the maintenance of one's existence as oppposed to
> its extinction.
> 
> Eternal life need not resemble one's earthly life at all.
> It may have no temporal component, or spatial component,
> for that matter. It may have no physical component. It may
> have no sensory component, at least as we know it. There
> may be no such thing as action as we know it.
> Individuality may be of a very different order.
> 
> It's astonishing to me that anyone would expect eternal
> life to be just like one's present life, only forever. That
> strikes me as a truly massive failure of the imagination.
> 
> I've been reading an amazing book by Carlos Eire titled
> "A Very Brief History of Eternity." His discussion of
> the role that the concept of eternity played in the life
> of pre-Reformation Europe is spellbinding and revelatory.
> To refer to it as merely a "concept" in this context is
> to significantly understate the case. It may have had its
> disadvantages, but the spiritual richness bestowed by
> belief in eternity and eternal life during that period is
> incontestable. Did we lose more than we gained when Martin
> Luther appeared on the scene?
>
Nice response. You brought up a number of possibilities that did not occur to 
me. Without Luther, we would not have had Bach. What kind of spiritual richness 
might come from the idea that we have just one shot at it, and we have to 
succeed before we die? That seems to be the gist of enlightenment and the end 
of rebirth which then is understood in a completely different way than it is 
usually interpreted. At the same time eternal life might be exactly the same as 
what we experience every day.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Fairfield, v1.0

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> Alex, have I ever said I loved you?
> 

No, I don't believe you ever have. But, if the urge to do so becomes too 
overwhelming, I'll try to keep my manly pheromones to a minimum.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Being Special

[Richard J. Williams]

> > I am willing to believe anything, but not 
> > without evidence.
> > 
laughinggull:
> No you're not, Michael. People have tried and 
> what they've presented has fallen on "deaf" 
> eyes. Of at least, a mind that wasn't open to 
> other ways of thinking...
>
Who would you believe? A very large group of people
standing on the corner, who all said that they saw 
a 'big blue bus' just go by.

Or,

Another, very small group of people, standing on 
the same street corner, who all said that 'no big 
blue bus' came by.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Fairfield, v1.0

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Fabulous Alex!  I will try this for a boneless, skinless chicken
> breast (although I like the skin, I sometimes buy them).  9.5
> times out of 10 I overcook them and they come out dry - sauce or
> no sauce.  They can be undercooked one minute and overcooked the
> next.  I had given up.  


Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but you need a special "water oven" to cook sous 
vide. Chefs first started cooking this way using laboratory grade water baths, 
which cost $1000+. Some years ago, a company that makes digital temperature 
controllers came out with a $120 unit into which you plug in a crock pot or 
rice cooker, filled with water, and the controller turns the electricity on and 
off, keeping the water at exactly the temperature it's set at. That's the 
set-up I use, but there's now a company that makes a reasonably priced consumer 
water bath:

http://www.sousvidesupreme.com/

Still kinda pricey, and for best results, you should have a foodvac for vacuum 
packing the food to be cooked. If you already own a crock pot, and you have 
$150 burning a hole in your pocket, you can still get the latest version of the 
unit I use:

http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=44

[FairfieldLife] Gay man deserves credit for so much of TM success

[srijau]

Beatles is mostly a delusion of self-importance indulged in by the British, it 
is Merv who deserves huge credit

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2007/08/17/people-griffin-dc-idUKN1639738120070817

[FairfieldLife] Must Pleez the Chineez

[Bhairitu]

Seems that our overlords the Chinese demanded some changes in the 
forthcoming film "World War Z":
http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/fearing-chinese-censors-paramount-changes-world-war-z-exclusive-83316

So how are those Mandarin lessons coming?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Free Man In Fairfield, v1.0

[Emily Reyn]

Fabulous Alex!  I will try this for a boneless, skinless chicken breast 
(although I like the skin, I sometimes buy them).  9.5 times out of 10 I 
overcook them and they come out dry - sauce or no sauce.  They can be 
undercooked one minute and overcooked the next.  I had given up.  



>
> From: Alex Stanley 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 6:03 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Free Man In Fairfield, v1.0
> 
>
>  
>Despite being the laziest person on the planet, overeating at Rory and Rena's 
>Easter potluck, sleeping like crap, and dragging my sorry carcass out of bed 
>at 7am, I actually had a very productive day. 
>
>First project: I decided to upgrade the iMac that serves up 
>http://alex.natel.net/ from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion. And rather than 
>simply running the downloaded upgrade app, I extracted the install data from 
>the download and used it to create a bootable USB flash drive. That way, I 
>always have bootable media from which to reinstall the OS, even if the hard 
>drive shits the bed.
>
>Second project: Putting together an EP-960 Teeter Hang Up inversion table. The 
>written instructions that come with it are worthless, and just as I was about 
>to call up the company and rip 'em a new one, I remembered the DVD that came 
>with it. So, I fired it up, and sure enough, the DVD has a chapter that 
>perfectly demonstrates proper assembly. Duh.
>
>Getting back to the potluck...
>
>Law of Nature: The positively absolutely unmistakably *BEST* way to cook 
>boneless skinless chicken breast is sous vide at 140 deg F for 3 hours.
>
>My favorite source of external validation is cooking outstanding food for 
>potlucks, and potlucks chez Rory and Rena are great because they are a 
>meat-friendly household. So, on Saturday morning, I cooked a couple organic 
>chicken breasts at 140 deg F for 3 hours and then popped the bag into the 
>fridge until Sunday morning. I then made some balsamic vinegar reduction, 
>using a recipe I found online that called for balsamic vinegar, soy sauce, and 
>brown sugar. Big mistake.
>
>Law of Nature: The *ONLY* ingredient in a balsamic vinegar reduction is 
>balsamic vinegar.
>
>The soy sauce and sugar ruined it, so I tossed it down the drain and made a 
>fresh batch in accord with Natural Law. 
>
>Rena was going to make roast lamb, and I suggested she buy some Crosse & 
>Blackwell mint sauce, which is a vinegar based mint sauce, instead of that 
>godawful, radioactive green, jelly crap. She couldn't find any, so I made my 
>own version of it. I made a cider vinegar reduction, sweetened it with 
>jaggery, and infused mint leaves in the hot reduction. 
>
>I woke up Sunday morning and did my usual Sunday ritual: had my coffee, turned 
>on the far infrared sauna, and watched CBS Sunday Morning from inside the 
>sauna. After that, I hit the kitchen. First task: make lime-ginger flash 
>pickles. Inspired by this video:
>
>http://youtu.be/yuDFFJ2mazg
>
>I make a pickling liquid from either fresh squeezed lemons or limes and then 
>use a vacuum canister and the vacuum port on my foodvac to vacuum infuse the 
>liquid into the cucumber slices. This time, I used limes, and for the first 
>time, used the single-gear juicer to make fresh ginger juice to add to the 
>citrus. In the future, I won't add quite so much ginger, as the pickles were a 
>bit medicinally bitter. I almost didn't bring them to the potluck, but I'm 
>glad I did because people LOVED them. 
>
>Second task: make the chicken breast hors d'oeuvres. I cut the chicken breast 
>into neat little rectangles and topped them with fresh basil and/or fresh 
>tarragon and half a cherry tomato, with a toothpick holding them together. 
>Then I drizzled them with the balsamic vinegar reduction. I tried one and was 
>totally blown away... unbelievably delicious. What's great about cooking 
>chicken at 140 degrees is that very little liquid separates out; it's fully 
>cooked, and any microorganisms are destroyed, but the meat is not subject to 
>higher temperatures where the proteins contract and express out all the 
>moisture. At the potluck, the chicken breast was a HUGE hit; people raved 
>about it, and they polished off the entire platter.
>
>
> 
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[srijau]

well once about the movement Maharishi said "It takes a thorn to remove a 
thorn" but I think the thorn being removed was Kali Yuga so if Kali Yuga is 
coming to an end then there should be no longer a need or excuse for the 
movement to be thorn-like any longer!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jwtrowbridge"  wrote:
> [...]
> > For lack of a better expression, I would like to suggest that their needs 
> > to be a separation of church and state. The church is the purity of the 
> > knowledge, and the state is how TM is administrated, the organization. The 
> > organization should consider some of the principles I have suggested. There 
> > is nothing wrong with conflict. Conflict is just an opportunity to solve a 
> > problem. It is how something maladaptive, and disorganized becomes 
> > beautiful.
> > 
> 
> 
> At one point in time MMY directed that all TM centers would be run by the 
> "sidhi parliament," comprised of all the local meditators, while the teaching 
> duties would remain with the TM teachers.
> 
> The TM teachers, seeing their priesthood threatened, ignored him and insisted 
> in running "their" centers, their way.
> 
> Another time, MMY heard that TM teachers were making the puja a standard 
> ritual in their own lives in all circumstances and released a video to be 
> shown to all meditators everywhere, where he discussed why he had ensured 
> that TM wasn't a religion. It was shown once, as far as I know, and then 
> virtually every center in the world appears to have conveniently lost track 
> of it, with many gung-ho TMers denying that it ever existed.
> 
> 
> L
> 
> 
> L
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v2.05

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> > Good food, good wine, interesting people to 
> > watch and comment on, and I'm happy...YMMV.
> >
> "If you're ridin' on a gravy train
> instead of walkin' down lover's lane
> You can't make hay boy
> cause your goin' the wrong way boy
> You gotta get a little honey
> it's better than money
> If you ain't lovin'
> than you ain't livin'"

Amen
> 
> 'If You Ain't Lovin, You Ain't Livin', Lyrics:
> http://tinyurl.com/cwz5c53
> 
> George Strait - If You Ain't Lovin' (You Ain't Livin') 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCoSH-V_akI
>

[FairfieldLife] Rk Veda sound recording resources???

[srijau]

Maharaja revealed that the Veda is expressed in human physiology under the 
guidance of Maharshi; and that there is a correspondence between the Mandalas 
of the Rk Veda and the 10 Mandals, like 4th is the digestive system and 2nd is 
musculo-skeletal etc, but from the very nice and clear Maharishi Pundit 
recitals we still only have like at most the first one or two suktas of each 
mandal available even with the "Individual is Cosmic" course
a search of the available recordings turns up nothing more at present:

http://vedic-arts.com/AdvSearch.jsp

does anyone here know of a better quality recording available than this:

https://vedavichara.com/vedic-chants/rig-veda.html

which is not so great sound quality by comparison, also it is divided in 
Ashtakas,  not helpful from the point of view of the medico-healing experiment 
based on Mandals.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Fairfield, v1.0

[Ann]

Alex, have I ever said I loved you?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> Despite being the laziest person on the planet, overeating at Rory and Rena's 
> Easter potluck, sleeping like crap, and dragging my sorry carcass out of bed 
> at 7am, I actually had a very productive day. 
> 
> First project: I decided to upgrade the iMac that serves up 
> http://alex.natel.net/ from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion. And rather than 
> simply running the downloaded upgrade app, I extracted the install data from 
> the download and used it to create a bootable USB flash drive. That way, I 
> always have bootable media from which to reinstall the OS, even if the hard 
> drive shits the bed.
> 
> Second project: Putting together an EP-960 Teeter Hang Up inversion table. 
> The written instructions that come with it are worthless, and just as I was 
> about to call up the company and rip 'em a new one, I remembered the DVD that 
> came with it. So, I fired it up, and sure enough, the DVD has a chapter that 
> perfectly demonstrates proper assembly. Duh.
> 
> Getting back to the potluck...
> 
> Law of Nature: The positively absolutely unmistakably *BEST* way to cook 
> boneless skinless chicken breast is sous vide at 140 deg F for 3 hours.
> 
> My favorite source of external validation is cooking outstanding food for 
> potlucks, and potlucks chez Rory and Rena are great because they are a 
> meat-friendly household. So, on Saturday morning, I cooked a couple organic 
> chicken breasts at 140 deg F for 3 hours and then popped the bag into the 
> fridge until Sunday morning. I then made some balsamic vinegar reduction, 
> using a recipe I found online that called for balsamic vinegar, soy sauce, 
> and brown sugar. Big mistake.
> 
> Law of Nature: The *ONLY* ingredient in a balsamic vinegar reduction is 
> balsamic vinegar.
> 
> The soy sauce and sugar ruined it, so I tossed it down the drain and made a 
> fresh batch in accord with Natural Law. 
> 
> Rena was going to make roast lamb, and I suggested she buy some Crosse & 
> Blackwell mint sauce, which is a vinegar based mint sauce, instead of that 
> godawful, radioactive green, jelly crap. She couldn't find any, so I made my 
> own version of it. I made a cider vinegar reduction, sweetened it with 
> jaggery, and infused mint leaves in the hot reduction. 
> 
> I woke up Sunday morning and did my usual Sunday ritual: had my coffee, 
> turned on the far infrared sauna, and watched CBS Sunday Morning from inside 
> the sauna. After that, I hit the kitchen. First task: make lime-ginger flash 
> pickles. Inspired by this video:
> 
> http://youtu.be/yuDFFJ2mazg
> 
> I make a pickling liquid from either fresh squeezed lemons or limes and then 
> use a vacuum canister and the vacuum port on my foodvac to vacuum infuse the 
> liquid into the cucumber slices. This time, I used limes, and for the first 
> time, used the single-gear juicer to make fresh ginger juice to add to the 
> citrus. In the future, I won't add quite so much ginger, as the pickles were 
> a bit medicinally bitter. I almost didn't bring them to the potluck, but I'm 
> glad I did because people LOVED them. 
> 
> Second task: make the chicken breast hors d'oeuvres. I cut the chicken breast 
> into neat little rectangles and topped them with fresh basil and/or fresh 
> tarragon and half a cherry tomato, with a toothpick holding them together. 
> Then I drizzled them with the balsamic vinegar reduction. I tried one and was 
> totally blown away... unbelievably delicious. What's great about cooking 
> chicken at 140 degrees is that very little liquid separates out; it's fully 
> cooked, and any microorganisms are destroyed, but the meat is not subject to 
> higher temperatures where the proteins contract and express out all the 
> moisture. At the potluck, the chicken breast was a HUGE hit; people raved 
> about it, and they polished off the entire platter.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v2.05

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> >
> > It seems really fine, Barry, that at your stage in life you  
> > have the chance to love and help care for a young child.  
> > Nothing  like it  - you get to relive the wonder of 
> > childhood all over again!  You have the time to do this 
> > and that is great.  Maya is a lucky girl.  BTW, I also 
> > love all the Wallace and Grommit movies, and especially 
> > the shorts that were done years ago.  Did you see the one 
> > where the animals in a zoo talk about what their lives 
> > are like?
> > 
> > Also, just a comment - and you know this is not antagonistic. 
> 
> Nor do I take it as such. Merely as an opportunity...
> 
> > I wonder why you wrote the last paragraph?  Who cares if 
> > others are interested or not in your travels or in only 
> > posting spiritual things?  It came across to me as if you 
> > are fishing around to push some buttons. What you wrote 
> > before was really of a different flavor altogether and 
> > stood on its own quite nicely.
> 
> Go back and read what I wrote. Did I mention anyone by
> name? If anyone reacts -- or more accurately, given this
> forum, overreacts -- to what I wrote, it seems to me that
> they are projecting their *own* self-importance and
> narcissism into what I wrote. I wrote generically. Those
> who react as if they had been personally insulted have 
> responded almost as if -- almost -- their own sense of 
> self-importance leads them to believe that what I wrote 
> was ALL ABOUT THEM. 
> 
> If that's the way they feel they have to react to a generic
> and non-specific rap, so be it. Me, I was just rappin'...

No you're not. You're all alone in a crowded restaurant eating your dinner at a 
table for one. Maybe you have your computer with you or are taking notes - 
mental ones at least. But you focus on the irritants in the room, those women 
who are of the same nationality that you are. You focus on them and you find 
every which way to illustrate how crass, and uninteresting and pedestrian they 
are. Because? Because this is what you do. Then you take time out of your 
dinner or when you find yourself alone back at your French apartment and make a 
point of finding all the ways that you can create a portrait of what you hated 
about the evening. But you didn't hate it. You loved the fact that you could 
use some American women as fodder for just one more opportunity to write the 
same things you always write. And what you write is just window dressing for 
the guts of the thing. The guts are the opportunity to rag on people who you 
think you know inside and out, people who you have seen a thousand times 
before, people who aren't worth the air they breath. YOU are a suave and 
experienced world traveller (Curtis?), you are THE MAN and most of all, you are 
beyond and above the boringness of people like those Americans you made a great 
point of studying in that restaurant. But you are just a visitor, a guest, in 
France like they are, you are an American, like they are, and you are looking 
for any opportunity to come up with reasons why you are better than them. Try 
again.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v2.05

[Richard J. Williams]

> Good food, good wine, interesting people to 
> watch and comment on, and I'm happy...YMMV.
>
"If you're ridin' on a gravy train
instead of walkin' down lover's lane
You can't make hay boy
cause your goin' the wrong way boy
You gotta get a little honey
it's better than money
If you ain't lovin'
than you ain't livin'"

'If You Ain't Lovin, You Ain't Livin', Lyrics:
http://tinyurl.com/cwz5c53

George Strait - If You Ain't Lovin' (You Ain't Livin') 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCoSH-V_akI

[FairfieldLife] The Short Freecycle Guide

[Dick Mays]

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Date: April 1, 2013 3:14:48 PM CDT
 

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[FairfieldLife] Free Man In Fairfield, v1.0

[Alex Stanley]

Despite being the laziest person on the planet, overeating at Rory and Rena's 
Easter potluck, sleeping like crap, and dragging my sorry carcass out of bed at 
7am, I actually had a very productive day. 

First project: I decided to upgrade the iMac that serves up 
http://alex.natel.net/ from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion. And rather than 
simply running the downloaded upgrade app, I extracted the install data from 
the download and used it to create a bootable USB flash drive. That way, I 
always have bootable media from which to reinstall the OS, even if the hard 
drive shits the bed.

Second project: Putting together an EP-960 Teeter Hang Up inversion table. The 
written instructions that come with it are worthless, and just as I was about 
to call up the company and rip 'em a new one, I remembered the DVD that came 
with it. So, I fired it up, and sure enough, the DVD has a chapter that 
perfectly demonstrates proper assembly. Duh.

Getting back to the potluck...

Law of Nature: The positively absolutely unmistakably *BEST* way to cook 
boneless skinless chicken breast is sous vide at 140 deg F for 3 hours.

My favorite source of external validation is cooking outstanding food for 
potlucks, and potlucks chez Rory and Rena are great because they are a 
meat-friendly household. So, on Saturday morning, I cooked a couple organic 
chicken breasts at 140 deg F for 3 hours and then popped the bag into the 
fridge until Sunday morning. I then made some balsamic vinegar reduction, using 
a recipe I found online that called for balsamic vinegar, soy sauce, and brown 
sugar. Big mistake.

Law of Nature: The *ONLY* ingredient in a balsamic vinegar reduction is 
balsamic vinegar.

The soy sauce and sugar ruined it, so I tossed it down the drain and made a 
fresh batch in accord with Natural Law. 

Rena was going to make roast lamb, and I suggested she buy some Crosse & 
Blackwell mint sauce, which is a vinegar based mint sauce, instead of that 
godawful, radioactive green, jelly crap. She couldn't find any, so I made my 
own version of it. I made a cider vinegar reduction, sweetened it with jaggery, 
and infused mint leaves in the hot reduction. 

I woke up Sunday morning and did my usual Sunday ritual: had my coffee, turned 
on the far infrared sauna, and watched CBS Sunday Morning from inside the 
sauna. After that, I hit the kitchen. First task: make lime-ginger flash 
pickles. Inspired by this video:

http://youtu.be/yuDFFJ2mazg

I make a pickling liquid from either fresh squeezed lemons or limes and then 
use a vacuum canister and the vacuum port on my foodvac to vacuum infuse the 
liquid into the cucumber slices. This time, I used limes, and for the first 
time, used the single-gear juicer to make fresh ginger juice to add to the 
citrus. In the future, I won't add quite so much ginger, as the pickles were a 
bit medicinally bitter. I almost didn't bring them to the potluck, but I'm glad 
I did because people LOVED them. 

Second task: make the chicken breast hors d'oeuvres. I cut the chicken breast 
into neat little rectangles and topped them with fresh basil and/or fresh 
tarragon and half a cherry tomato, with a toothpick holding them together. Then 
I drizzled them with the balsamic vinegar reduction. I tried one and was 
totally blown away... unbelievably delicious. What's great about cooking 
chicken at 140 degrees is that very little liquid separates out; it's fully 
cooked, and any microorganisms are destroyed, but the meat is not subject to 
higher temperatures where the proteins contract and express out all the 
moisture. At the potluck, the chicken breast was a HUGE hit; people raved about 
it, and they polished off the entire platter.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v2.05

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > As much as I love the Netherlands, and spending time with my extended
> > family there, it is *also* an utter delight to be back in Paris, and to
> > be having dinner in a sidewalk cafe (covered and heated, of course,
> > because it's still almost as cold here as it was there -- global
> > colding, and all that), and enjoying both the food and the ambiance.
> > 
> > The highlight of my time "back home" revolves around the time I get to
> > spend with young 4-year-old Maya. We have a weekend routine, in which
> > she comes downstairs in the mornings while the rest of the family gets
> > to sleep in, and we watch "Mayamovies" together on my computer. This
> > morning we watched the classic Disney "Cinderella" and a "Winnie The
> > Pooh" movie, and the morning before we watched "Despicable Me" (always a
> > delight) and a bunch of Nick Park's wonderful Wallace & Gromit movies.
> > We chat and do "film crit" all the way through them, which the other
> > members of my family don't appreciate as much as Maya and I do, as they
> > fear they'll never be able to take her to an actual movie theater
> > because she'll want to talk about the movie all the way through it. My
> > bad. :-)
> > 
> > But anyway, back to here and now, and Paris. It's "happy hour" in this
> > cafe/restaurant, and the crowd reflects this. At a table next to mine,
> > there are three French women -- two from the traditional French gene
> > pool, one clearly from a more Moroccan gene pool, and they are drinking
> > coffees (2-for-the-price-of-one) and chatting amongst themselves quietly
> > and with admirable French restraint. Across the terrace, however, sit a
> > group of seven clearly American Girls.
> 
> You know, we should start a regular pool on how far Barry
> will get into his next "vignette" before he starts to rag
> on one of his favorite targets.

Yes, he reminds me of myself when I was 9 years old. My family was transferred 
to Europe and I lived there until I was 17. At that time, as an impressionable 
and silly adolescent, I hated and looked down on all things American. It just 
wasn't cool to like Americans or the US. We lived in EUROPE and how incredible 
were we - all of us well-heeled kids of corporate American executives living 
the high life over there, snubbing our noses at those silly, ignorant, 
uncultured people Stateside. We were the cool ones, the ones who had access to 
European food, art, music. I was a little like Barry back then, grade 4 to 
grade 10, but luckily I have grown up just a wee bit. I still don't eat 
MacDonalds or shop at Walmart but damn I like a lot of things this side of the 
pond.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Orange agni??

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
> 
> Is this real???
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZp_q_7IExA

Well, the fact that the title was written "How to Make Fire Using Only a 
Orange" instead of "an orange" I am not too confident this is for real. Plus, 
what was that "rock" that he put in the orange and there was an awful lot of 
time when the camera was not shooting the orange so anything could have been 
going on "down there". So no, I don't think it is real.

But maybe your question wasn't serious.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[jwtrowbridge]

I would be most pleased if I thought Raja Hagelin just read my letter.  I read 
the other day that someone said if one door closes then another door opens, or 
just open the closed door because that's how doors work. TMO can maximize all 
fronts all doors to get this amazing knowledge out. I was hoping by my post to 
attract some attention by someone who could help at least broach some of the 
questions. Nonetheless I am happy with my program, and continue to support the 
TMO. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@...  wrote:
>
> Thank-you for your taking the time to address these thoughts to Raja Hagelin.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jwtrowbridge"  wrote:
> >
> > I would like to give feedback from the perspective of one who loves TM, but 
> > not how the organization is run. I have wanted to do so for many years. I 
> > feel I have a unique perspective to do so. I am not angry. I am not 
> > dependent on TM other than my wonderful program I practice. I have no ax to 
> > grind other than a genuine desire to see the organization succeed. I wish 
> > to help this organization from the point of view of one who is a family 
> > man, a professional who sees the divinity of my practice, and the missteps 
> > of the organization.
> > 
> > My TM program is the only time during the day that I know my activity is 
> > perfect. It is a perfect program. It is a perfect activity. It is perfect 
> > knowledge. I have recently obtained all of the advanced techniques. I have 
> > missed maybe five meditations in 40 years only because I enjoy it. There is 
> > no other reason. Not for health, not for enlightenment, such is the joy and 
> > power of my program. 
> > 
> > I have just finished 34 years as a public school teacher in North Carolina, 
> > and I am still teaching. I have been married 30 years. I have two children. 
> > My wife meditates. My two children have been initiated. From the beginning, 
> > I have provided support to the TM Movement through the use of my house for 
> > lectures, initiations, and whatever I have to offer all these years. I am 
> > your biggest fan.
> > 
> > I started TM on November 13th, 1971 and got the sidhis in `80 or `81 at 
> > MUM. I practiced my program by myself over the decades until 5 years ago, 
> > when I went to MUM to fly in the dome for a 7-week visit. I have gone ever 
> > 2 years during the summer thereafter. I have never taken one dime of grant 
> > money. 
> > 
> > I mention specific names and impressions in this letter, not to target 
> > individuals, but to show relevant examples of what concerns me. I also want 
> > to describe what could be done differently, especially if you want to have 
> > credibility with Americans. The goal of this organization is not to appeal 
> > to a particular leader or person, but to the widest possible audience who 
> > will appreciate and practice the TM program in its purity. 
> > 
> > 2007: This incident exemplifies so many of the elements of what is wrong 
> > with how the TM organization is managed. When I came 5 years ago, I was in 
> > the dome for the IA course for just a few days when the men's group had to 
> > move because workmen were replacing the roof. We moved to a flying hall 
> > near the swimming pool. Unfortunately, a mistake had been made in preparing 
> > the new hall. The floor and walls had been painted with a toxic, oil-based 
> > paint, and the odor was awful, awful. The air in the new hall was extremely 
> > noxious. Fans in the eaves of the building were run night and day. Sidhas 
> > pleaded with Dr. Doug Birx not to move us into this situation. He said it 
> > could not be helped. I spent one day in the new hall experiencing bliss 
> > with an underlying headache. I never have headaches. 
> > 
> > I walked and hitchhiked to Vedic City to do program for most of the week 
> > instead of going to this toxic hall. Once I was picked up by a Board of 
> > Trustees member. I don't remember his name. In casual conversation, told 
> > him I had not come from North Carolina to huff paint fumes. The next day, 
> > thinking the fumes would be better, I went to fly in the newly painted 
> > hall. It was better, but still not good. During the 10 a.m. experience 
> > time, Dr. Bevan Morris asked Dr. Doug Birx an introductory question, "Is 
> > there a problem with the hall?" I assumed that the trustee I had talked to 
> > called Dr. Morris. Dr. Birx stated no. Who could question the bliss 
> > emanating from this hall? he asked. He added that there were some problems, 
> > but they had been worked out. He completely dismissed the issue.
> > 
> > Who knows why Dr. Birx moved us into a hall that could have sickened the 
> > whole men's flying group, but the result was they were exposed to toxic 
> > fumes  for a week due to his decision. And when he was questioned about 
> > this, he did not admit a mistake had been made and remedy the situation by 
> > moving the sidhas to a safe space. 
> > 
> > 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Being Special

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Some time ago I posed the question that if, as Marshy always claimed, TM is 
> better, superior to all other meditations, how can that be so, what makes TM 
> special?

In MMY's own words about how TM is taught:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRSvW9Ml9DQ


> Other evidence is that long term practice doesn't lead to any kind of 
> superlative behavior as demonstrated by the TMO leaders and managers. Given 
> the downside of TM, the evidence is that other meditations are far superior 
> to TM since few of them have the kind of baggage that TM has.
>

Most other organizations that teach meditation aren't designed to scale to the 
world level, and certainly not during the lifetime of the founder of said 
organization. That brings its own headaches.


L

[FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jwtrowbridge"  
wrote:
[...]
> For lack of a better expression, I would like to suggest that their needs to 
> be a separation of church and state. The church is the purity of the 
> knowledge, and the state is how TM is administrated, the organization. The 
> organization should consider some of the principles I have suggested. There 
> is nothing wrong with conflict. Conflict is just an opportunity to solve a 
> problem. It is how something maladaptive, and disorganized becomes beautiful.
> 


At one point in time MMY directed that all TM centers would be run by the 
"sidhi parliament," comprised of all the local meditators, while the teaching 
duties would remain with the TM teachers.

The TM teachers, seeing their priesthood threatened, ignored him and insisted 
in running "their" centers, their way.

Another time, MMY heard that TM teachers were making the puja a standard ritual 
in their own lives in all circumstances and released a video to be shown to all 
meditators everywhere, where he discussed why he had ensured that TM wasn't a 
religion. It was shown once, as far as I know, and then virtually every center 
in the world appears to have conveniently lost track of it, with many gung-ho 
TMers denying that it ever existed.


L


L

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi how do you feel about reincarnation?

[srijau]

Pink is considered the colour of the sign Cancer in Jyotish. It has an 
influence of gentleness and refinement. The other pastels are nice too. 

"A sattvik person likes to wear clothes of sattvik colours like yellow, blue, 
pink etc.

Read more at: 
http://www.hindujagruti.org/hinduism/knowledge/article/how-do-the-colour-and-design-of-the-clothes-affect-the-person-wearing-it.html

"When a sattvik person wears raja-tama-predominant clothes, distressing 
vibrations are created.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> 
> would that be a pink carnation, where every car in the country is pink?
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> >
> > "I am opposed to it."
> >
> >
> > Another time (holding a flower): "One carnation is enough."
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[srijau]

Thank-you for your taking the time to address these thoughts to Raja Hagelin.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jwtrowbridge"  
wrote:
>
> I would like to give feedback from the perspective of one who loves TM, but 
> not how the organization is run. I have wanted to do so for many years. I 
> feel I have a unique perspective to do so. I am not angry. I am not dependent 
> on TM other than my wonderful program I practice. I have no ax to grind other 
> than a genuine desire to see the organization succeed. I wish to help this 
> organization from the point of view of one who is a family man, a 
> professional who sees the divinity of my practice, and the missteps of the 
> organization.
> 
> My TM program is the only time during the day that I know my activity is 
> perfect. It is a perfect program. It is a perfect activity. It is perfect 
> knowledge. I have recently obtained all of the advanced techniques. I have 
> missed maybe five meditations in 40 years only because I enjoy it. There is 
> no other reason. Not for health, not for enlightenment, such is the joy and 
> power of my program. 
> 
> I have just finished 34 years as a public school teacher in North Carolina, 
> and I am still teaching. I have been married 30 years. I have two children. 
> My wife meditates. My two children have been initiated. From the beginning, I 
> have provided support to the TM Movement through the use of my house for 
> lectures, initiations, and whatever I have to offer all these years. I am 
> your biggest fan.
> 
> I started TM on November 13th, 1971 and got the sidhis in `80 or `81 at MUM. 
> I practiced my program by myself over the decades until 5 years ago, when I 
> went to MUM to fly in the dome for a 7-week visit. I have gone ever 2 years 
> during the summer thereafter. I have never taken one dime of grant money. 
> 
> I mention specific names and impressions in this letter, not to target 
> individuals, but to show relevant examples of what concerns me. I also want 
> to describe what could be done differently, especially if you want to have 
> credibility with Americans. The goal of this organization is not to appeal to 
> a particular leader or person, but to the widest possible audience who will 
> appreciate and practice the TM program in its purity. 
> 
> 2007: This incident exemplifies so many of the elements of what is wrong with 
> how the TM organization is managed. When I came 5 years ago, I was in the 
> dome for the IA course for just a few days when the men's group had to move 
> because workmen were replacing the roof. We moved to a flying hall near the 
> swimming pool. Unfortunately, a mistake had been made in preparing the new 
> hall. The floor and walls had been painted with a toxic, oil-based paint, and 
> the odor was awful, awful. The air in the new hall was extremely noxious. 
> Fans in the eaves of the building were run night and day. Sidhas pleaded with 
> Dr. Doug Birx not to move us into this situation. He said it could not be 
> helped. I spent one day in the new hall experiencing bliss with an underlying 
> headache. I never have headaches. 
> 
> I walked and hitchhiked to Vedic City to do program for most of the week 
> instead of going to this toxic hall. Once I was picked up by a Board of 
> Trustees member. I don't remember his name. In casual conversation, told him 
> I had not come from North Carolina to huff paint fumes. The next day, 
> thinking the fumes would be better, I went to fly in the newly painted hall. 
> It was better, but still not good. During the 10 a.m. experience time, Dr. 
> Bevan Morris asked Dr. Doug Birx an introductory question, "Is there a 
> problem with the hall?" I assumed that the trustee I had talked to called Dr. 
> Morris. Dr. Birx stated no. Who could question the bliss emanating from this 
> hall? he asked. He added that there were some problems, but they had been 
> worked out. He completely dismissed the issue.
> 
> Who knows why Dr. Birx moved us into a hall that could have sickened the 
> whole men's flying group, but the result was they were exposed to toxic fumes 
>  for a week due to his decision. And when he was questioned about this, he 
> did not admit a mistake had been made and remedy the situation by moving the 
> sidhas to a safe space. 
> 
> Systemic Issues: The TM movement employs managers who are brilliant and well 
> versed in the Vedas or special knowledge. However, this does not make them 
> skilled managers. The problems that allowed this one example to unfold are 
> systemic in the organization. People are good, and when good people make 
> wrong decisions, it is usually due to responding to the stressors and 
> structure of the system that is in place. I blame the systems under which 
> they are managing, and the environment of not recognizing issues that should 
> be addressed when they emerge. 
> 
> This one example reveals a lot about the dynamics of how the organization is 
> managed. This dynamic is repeat

[FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[Susan]

I too really enjoyed your post, Mr Trowbridge.  It was genuine and so right on. 
Loved your points about conflict. In the name of being "positive," so much has 
been overlooked, not dealt with, and repressed.  At every level. And for those 
whose very livelihood revolved around all this for some years, it took a real 
toll. The frustration of trying to get a "problem" dealt with was incredible - 
because the person was considered to be unstressing or negative. A really 
unhealthy system evolved. Anyway, you said it all so well and I thank you for 
that.
  I suspect that in posting it here on FFL, it will be read by the people you 
are talking to.  My guess is that the big issue on the inside is whether to try 
and mimic exactly how MMY ran the TMO or whether to modify that so as to appeal 
to more people.  Not modify the teaching, but the organization, how it is run, 
the way rules are "enforced,"  how to handle conflict. I think a lot will 
depend on how that unfolds now and in the next decade as Bevan and John and the 
rajas begin to retire.   Not that the TMO needs to become a corporate place, 
but it is all so very fuzzy and odd and seemingly going to end with our 
generation unless things change. Too much garbage being dragged along to 
interest the younger generation. 
 But TM is pure gold for you?   Lucky guy.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jwtrowbridge"  
wrote:
>
> Thank you, a beautiful response, and I will carry on. I go by my own 
> experiences. This has always been my guide, and my experiences daily have 
> been magnificent. The program is pure gold. Thanks,
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks John, beautiful post in it's positivity. And unique on this forum 
> > > because you are one of perhaps only 5 posters here altogether that does 
> > > TM regularily and have a non-agressive take on the TMO. So your idea of 
> > > sending it here was perhaps a bit too enthusiastic, it will unfortunately 
> > > only fuel more vile attacs on the TMO from the regulars here, most of 
> > > whom have not done TM in decades.
> > > 
> > > Aside from that it is impossible to disagree with you on any point, 
> > > except for perhaps the most important; your idea that the
> > > 
> > > "The goal of this organization is not to appeal to a particular leader or 
> > > person, but to the widest possible audience who will appreciate and 
> > > practice the TM program in its purity."
> > > and
> > > "reach the widest possible audience who will appreciate and practice 
> > > the TM program in its purity. This is the goal. This is what the TM 
> > > organization is about." 
> > > 
> > > This is a widespread misunderstanding due largely to being stuck in 
> > > Maharishi's old thinking or having been exposed only to this timeframe of 
> > > Maharishi's philosophy on video, strategies that were perfect until about 
> > > 1985. As the Age of Enlightenment grew and became an irreversible process 
> > > the old thinking based on the individual was replaced with the concern 
> > > for groups, and ultimately the whole world. Already in 1980, after having 
> > > prevented the WWII during the winther of 1979, Maharishi said "From today 
> > > no more meditators are necessary". Thus Maharishi's focus shifted and the 
> > > TMO as we know it became in many ways obsolete, left unattended also by 
> > > it's own Founder simply because it had no more function other than being 
> > > the safekeeper of the purity of the teaching. No small task, but the real 
> > > job of securing permanent world peace was given to the Rajas and the 
> > > Vedic Pundits, a responsebility that remains theirs to this day.
> > > 
> > > So my advice to you would be to "stay calm and carry on". Continue with 
> > > your beautiful programme, knowing that some obstacles like bad smell or 
> > > bad food or whatever will be thown into the mix at regular intervals, 
> > > they don't matter much. Forget about the mismanagement of the TMO, it is 
> > > irrelevant for you. Forget that the TMO must become in better shape to 
> > > save the world, they won't and their task isn't. Let them do their bit as 
> > > you do yours, life is too short to waste on such small things. 
> > > One last thing; please see as many as possible of Maharishi's newest 
> > > tapes that are available on youtube and are available here:
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/user/maharishichannel
> > 
> > Perhaps what I've stated above will be clearer. Thank you again for your 
> > well-meaning post.
> > > Jai Guru Dev
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v2.05

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> >
> > It seems really fine, Barry, that at your stage in life you  
> > have the chance to love and help care for a young child.  
> > Nothing  like it  - you get to relive the wonder of 
> > childhood all over again!  You have the time to do this 
> > and that is great.  Maya is a lucky girl.  BTW, I also 
> > love all the Wallace and Grommit movies, and especially 
> > the shorts that were done years ago.  Did you see the one 
> > where the animals in a zoo talk about what their lives 
> > are like?
> > 
> > Also, just a comment - and you know this is not antagonistic. 
> 
> Nor do I take it as such. Merely as an opportunity...
> 
> > I wonder why you wrote the last paragraph?  Who cares if 
> > others are interested or not in your travels or in only 
> > posting spiritual things?  It came across to me as if you 
> > are fishing around to push some buttons. What you wrote 
> > before was really of a different flavor altogether and 
> > stood on its own quite nicely.
> 
> Go back and read what I wrote. Did I mention anyone by
> name? If anyone reacts -- or more accurately, given this
> forum, overreacts -- to what I wrote, it seems to me that
> they are projecting their *own* self-importance and
> narcissism into what I wrote. I wrote generically. Those
> who react as if they had been personally insulted have 
> responded almost as if -- almost -- their own sense of 
> self-importance leads them to believe that what I wrote 
> was ALL ABOUT THEM.

PSSST, Barry, Susan was the only one who reacted to
that paragraph.

And she's one of your biggest fans (of the few you
have left).

Ooopsie!


 

> If that's the way they feel they have to react to a generic
> and non-specific rap, so be it. Me, I was just rappin'...

[FairfieldLife] Hey Buck!

[Michael Jackson]

Buck,

I did a bunch of yard work today and my shoulder/back is pretty sore, so while 
I was waiting for my daughter and her mother to get back from a few errands so 
we could watch Warehouse 13, I decided to do my entire TM Sidhi program, minus 
the flying - it was pretty good, energywise, I even had the idea that I was in 
the Dome and I swear the energy got... well more something, let's say higher or 
brighter - could be a fantasy of course.

I still despise Marshy, the TMO and hope Nabby, Feste, SeventhRay, and Dr DUmmy 
will get on that ship to Mars, but I just thought you might like to know I did 
TM Sidhi today.

Yer Pal,

MJ

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kim Jung Un is Angry with Willy

[John]

Share,

Kim Jong Un just threatened the USA with a nuclear attack.  This is due to the 
transits of Saturn and Rahu in Libra, which is the 8th house of death from 
Pisces, the homeland of the USA chart.

Understandably, that threat is enough for Obama to send B-2 bombers and F-22 
jet fighters to South Korea for protection.  Aside from the US combat troops in 
South Korea, I'm sure a Navy carrier in the Pacific is standing by for possible 
action.  Also, it would be safe to assume that the US nuclear submarines have 
already programmed their nuclear missiles on key cities in North Korea.

In short, Kim Jong Un has no leg to stand on.  His belligerent and erratic 
actions only show that he is unstable mentally, which is shown in his birth 
chart.  He should realize that his army is not well fed to sustain a long 
protracted war.  Further, his nuclear missiles are also not strong enough to 
reach the US mainland.

JR
 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> I guess the Illuminati are also an aspect of the karma of the human race.
> Hey John, does jyotish do charts for cities?  Would it be possible to know 
> if Austin is really a likely target?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: John 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 12:31 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kim Jung Un is Angry with Willy
>  
> 
>   
> Or from the Illuminati.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > Or North Korea is taking orders from the US Military Industrial 
> > Complex.  All kinds of money to be made with a big war and maybe setting 
> > off a nuke (false flag) in Austin would get the fearful American sheep 
> > to march in step to support a big war.
> > 
> > On 03/29/2013 06:19 PM, John wrote:
> > > Kim Jong Un's actions don't fit with his ayurvedic body constitution.  
> > > IMO, he's a puppet of the North Korean Army generals.  He's a type that 
> > > would prefer to eat than fight.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >> So what did Willy do to piss off the Jong Un?
> > >>
> > >> http://www.kvue.com/news/NKorea-orders-rocket-prep-after-US-B-2-drill-200590371.html
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] to Remember at Easter

[srijau]

It is good at Easter to remember the one who swallowed the poison, died for the 
sins of the world and resurrected himself over the course of a year by the 
reverberations of the Veda within himself, not minding or complaining at all.

Jai Maharishi!

" The attending physician felt that Maharishi was clinically dead."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/the-maharishi-years-the-u_b_86412.html
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Feedback to the TM Movement

[Michael Jackson]

The TMO has a sentence that guides all things - "Give us more money, keep your 
heads down, don't question what we do and keep them checks coming, and know 
that something gd is happening!!!"





 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Feedback to the TM Movement
 

  
Mr. Trowbridge, it's always a pleasure to read such clear and reasonable and 
impassioned writing.  Thank you for posting this here.  I am sorry for your 
experience in 2007 and appreciate how you're attempting to bring good from it.  
I also LOVE the concept of a sentence or phrase that is used to guide every 
decision such as was used at Black Mountain Center.  Will let my brain 
percolate on that with reference to contemporary TMO.


I tend to think of negativity and or conflict like a cut on the finger.  Good 
to give it as much attention as it needed to set up the conditions needed for 
healing.  Then live life.  The attention and healing conditions needed for a 
paper cut will probably be vastly different than that required for a finger 
caught in a car door and dangling by a tendon.

>From your last 2 paragraphs it sounds like, but I could be making a connection 
>you do not intend, that the larger issue is such that it could be remedied by 
>what you call a separation of Church and state.  First, I'd be very interested 
>to hear what you think the larger, hidden issues are.  

I think you are onto something here and have my own opinions, but welcome 
hearing ideas enriched as they would be by your unique and qualified 
perspective.  


And from at least one poster on FFL, I get the impression that there is a bit 
of the separation you suggest.  At least as far as teaching TM is concerned.  
I'm not a TM teacher so cannot speak from experience about how this fairly 
recent set up is working.  It sounds like one TMO leader is focused on purity 
of the teaching and another is focused getting the TM message out.


Thanks again and I hope you will continue posting here.
All the best,
Share  




 From: jwtrowbridge 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 7:25 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Feedback to the TM Movement
 

  
I would like to give feedback from the perspective of one who loves TM, but not 
how the organization is run. I have wanted to do so for many years. I feel I 
have a unique perspective to do so. I am not angry. I am not dependent on TM 
other than my wonderful program I practice. I have no ax to grind other than a 
genuine desire to see the organization succeed. I wish to help this 
organization from the point of view of one who is a family man, a professional 
who sees the divinity of my practice, and the missteps of the organization.

My TM program is the only time during the day that I know my activity is 
perfect. It is a perfect program. It is a perfect activity. It is perfect 
knowledge. I have recently obtained all of the advanced techniques. I have 
missed maybe five meditations in 40 years only because I enjoy it. There is no 
other reason. Not for health, not for enlightenment, such is the joy and power 
of my program. 

I have just finished 34 years as a public school teacher in North Carolina, and 
I am still teaching. I have been married 30 years. I have two children. My wife 
meditates. My two children have been initiated. From the beginning, I have 
provided support to the TM Movement through the use of my house for lectures, 
initiations, and whatever I have to offer all these years. I am your biggest 
fan.

I started TM on November 13th, 1971 and got the sidhis in `80 or `81 at MUM. I 
practiced my program by myself over the decades until 5 years ago, when I went 
to MUM to fly in the dome for a 7-week visit. I have gone ever 2 years during 
the summer thereafter. I have never taken one dime of grant money. 

I mention specific names and impressions in this letter, not to target 
individuals, but to show relevant examples of what concerns me. I also want to 
describe what could be done differently, especially if you want to have 
credibility with Americans. The goal of this organization is not to appeal to a 
particular leader or person, but to the widest possible audience who will 
appreciate and practice the TM program in its purity. 

2007: This incident exemplifies so many of the elements of what is wrong with 
how the TM organization is managed. When I came 5 years ago, I was in the dome 
for the IA course for just a few days when the men's group had to move because 
workmen were replacing the roof. We moved to a flying hall near the swimming 
pool. Unfortunately, a mistake had been made in preparing the new hall. The 
floor and walls had been painted with a toxic, oil-based paint, and the odor 
was awful, awful. The air in the new hall was extremely noxious. Fans in the 
eaves of the building were run night and day. Sidhas 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[Michael Jackson]

Amen!




 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 11:35 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement
 

  

What's this? Problems in a perfect organisation?

I thought "nature" was organising things for the TMO? If you can't
trust the teaching that people meditating together spontaneously
create harmony then what can you trust?

My advice is to quit now before it's too late. The TMO is like
it is because that's how Marshy wanted it to be. He chose the
people in charge and trained them with everything they know.
It isn't a democracy, it never was. I was told that if I didn't
like it I knew where the door was. And that the TMO isn't there
for my benefit, it's there to change the world.

And they won't ever embrace transparency. It was a principle of
Marshy that the people who didn't need to know things didn't find
out about them. Can you imagine an honest statement about the
situation with Marshy's family in India at the moment? You've
got to be dreaming! That'd be like admitting that it's all a load
of crap. They'll keep quiet about it and pray no one reads the 
Times of India. Or FFL.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jwtrowbridge"  
wrote:
>
> I would like to give feedback from the perspective of one who loves TM, but 
> not how the organization is run. I have wanted to do so for many years. I 
> feel I have a unique perspective to do so. I am not angry. I am not dependent 
> on TM other than my wonderful program I practice. I have no ax to grind other 
> than a genuine desire to see the organization succeed. I wish to help this 
> organization from the point of view of one who is a family man, a 
> professional who sees the divinity of my practice, and the missteps of the 
> organization.
> 
> My TM program is the only time during the day that I know my activity is 
> perfect. It is a perfect program. It is a perfect activity. It is perfect 
> knowledge. I have recently obtained all of the advanced techniques. I have 
> missed maybe five meditations in 40 years only because I enjoy it. There is 
> no other reason. Not for health, not for enlightenment, such is the joy and 
> power of my program. 
> 
> I have just finished 34 years as a public school teacher in North Carolina, 
> and I am still teaching. I have been married 30 years. I have two children. 
> My wife meditates. My two children have been initiated. From the beginning, I 
> have provided support to the TM Movement through the use of my house for 
> lectures, initiations, and whatever I have to offer all these years. I am 
> your biggest fan.
> 
> I started TM on November 13th, 1971 and got the sidhis in `80 or `81 at MUM. 
> I practiced my program by myself over the decades until 5 years ago, when I 
> went to MUM to fly in the dome for a 7-week visit. I have gone ever 2 years 
> during the summer thereafter. I have never taken one dime of grant money. 
> 
> I mention specific names and impressions in this letter, not to target 
> individuals, but to show relevant examples of what concerns me. I also want 
> to describe what could be done differently, especially if you want to have 
> credibility with Americans. The goal of this organization is not to appeal to 
> a particular leader or person, but to the widest possible audience who will 
> appreciate and practice the TM program in its purity. 
> 
> 2007: This incident exemplifies so many of the elements of what is wrong with 
> how the TM organization is managed. When I came 5 years ago, I was in the 
> dome for the IA course for just a few days when the men's group had to move 
> because workmen were replacing the roof. We moved to a flying hall near the 
> swimming pool. Unfortunately, a mistake had been made in preparing the new 
> hall. The floor and walls had been painted with a toxic, oil-based paint, and 
> the odor was awful, awful. The air in the new hall was extremely noxious. 
> Fans in the eaves of the building were run night and day. Sidhas pleaded with 
> Dr. Doug Birx not to move us into this situation. He said it could not be 
> helped. I spent one day in the new hall experiencing bliss with an underlying 
> headache. I never have headaches. 
> 
> I walked and hitchhiked to Vedic City to do program for most of the week 
> instead of going to this toxic hall. Once I was picked up by a Board of 
> Trustees member. I don't remember his name. In casual conversation, told him 
> I had not come from North Carolina to huff paint fumes. The next day, 
> thinking the fumes would be better, I went to fly in the newly painted hall. 
> It was better, but still not good. During the 10 a.m. experience time, Dr. 
> Bevan Morris asked Dr. Doug Birx an introductory question, "Is there a 
> problem with the hall?" I assumed that the trustee I had talked to called Dr. 
> Morris. Dr. Birx stated no. Who could question the bliss emanating from this 
> hall? he asked. He added that there were some prob

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[Michael Jackson]

Jesus Nabby you are so full of it - you think Marshy prevented WWIII??? Who 
told you, Benji Creme? Hundreds of people in the Domes can't even prevent 
murders right on campus.





 From: nablusoss1008 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 3:28 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement
 

  
Thanks John, beautiful post in it's positivity. And unique on this forum 
because you are one of perhaps only 5 posters here altogether that does TM 
regularily and have a non-agressive take on the TMO. So your idea of sending it 
here was perhaps a bit too enthusiastic, it will unfortunately only fuel more 
vile attacs on the TMO from the regulars here, most of whom have not done TM in 
decades.

Aside from that it is impossible to disagree with you on any point, except for 
perhaps the most important; your idea that the

"The goal of this organization is not to appeal to a particular leader or 
person, but to the widest possible audience who will appreciate and practice 
the TM program in its purity."
and
"reach the widest possible audience who will appreciate and practice the TM 
program in its purity. This is the goal. This is what the TM organization is 
about." 

This is a widespread misunderstanding due largely to being stuck in Maharishi's 
old thinking or having been exposed only to this timeframe of Maharishi's 
philosophy on video, strategies that were perfect until about 1985. As the Age 
of Enlightenment grew and became an irreversible process the old thinking based 
on the individual was replaced with the concern for groups, and ultimately the 
whole world. Already in 1980, after having prevented the WWII during the 
winther of 1979, Maharishi said "From today no more meditators are necessary". 
Thus Maharishi's focus shifted and the TMO as we know it became in many ways 
obsolete, left unattended also by it's own Founder simply because it had no 
more function other than being the safekeeper of the purity of the teaching. No 
small task, but the real job of securing permanent world peace was given to the 
Rajas and the Vedic Pundits, a responsebility that remains theirs to this day.

So my advice to you would be to "stay calm and carry on". Continue with your 
beautiful programme, knowing that some obstacles like bad smell or bad food or 
whatever will be thown into the mix at regular intervals, they don't matter 
much. Forget about the mismanagement of the TMO, it is irrelevant for you. 
Forget that the TMO must become in better shape to save the world, they won't 
and their task isn't. Let them do their bit as you do yours, life is too short 
to waste on such small things. 
One last thing; please see as many as possible of Maharishi's newest tapes that 
are available on youtube. Perhaps what I've stated above will be clearer. Thank 
you again for your well meaning post.
Jai Guru Dev 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v2.05

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
>
> It seems really fine, Barry, that at your stage in life you  
> have the chance to love and help care for a young child.  
> Nothing  like it  - you get to relive the wonder of 
> childhood all over again!  You have the time to do this 
> and that is great.  Maya is a lucky girl.  BTW, I also 
> love all the Wallace and Grommit movies, and especially 
> the shorts that were done years ago.  Did you see the one 
> where the animals in a zoo talk about what their lives 
> are like?
> 
> Also, just a comment - and you know this is not antagonistic. 

Nor do I take it as such. Merely as an opportunity...

> I wonder why you wrote the last paragraph?  Who cares if 
> others are interested or not in your travels or in only 
> posting spiritual things?  It came across to me as if you 
> are fishing around to push some buttons. What you wrote 
> before was really of a different flavor altogether and 
> stood on its own quite nicely.

Go back and read what I wrote. Did I mention anyone by
name? If anyone reacts -- or more accurately, given this
forum, overreacts -- to what I wrote, it seems to me that
they are projecting their *own* self-importance and
narcissism into what I wrote. I wrote generically. Those
who react as if they had been personally insulted have 
responded almost as if -- almost -- their own sense of 
self-importance leads them to believe that what I wrote 
was ALL ABOUT THEM. 

If that's the way they feel they have to react to a generic
and non-specific rap, so be it. Me, I was just rappin'...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v2.05

[Susan]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> As much as I love the Netherlands, and spending time with my extended
> family there, it is *also* an utter delight to be back in Paris, and to
> be having dinner in a sidewalk cafe (covered and heated, of course,
> because it's still almost as cold here as it was there -- global
> colding, and all that), and enjoying both the food and the ambiance.
> 
> The highlight of my time "back home" revolves around the time I get to
> spend with young 4-year-old Maya. We have a weekend routine, in which
> she comes downstairs in the mornings while the rest of the family gets
> to sleep in, and we watch "Mayamovies" together on my computer. This
> morning we watched the classic Disney "Cinderella" and a "Winnie The
> Pooh" movie, and the morning before we watched "Despicable Me" (always a
> delight) and a bunch of Nick Park's wonderful Wallace & Gromit movies.
> We chat and do "film crit" all the way through them, which the other
> members of my family don't appreciate as much as Maya and I do, as they
> fear they'll never be able to take her to an actual movie theater
> because she'll want to talk about the movie all the way through it. My
> bad. :-)

It seems really fine, Barry, that at your stage in life you  have the chance to 
love and help care for a young child.  Nothing  like it  - you get to relive 
the wonder of childhood all over again!  You have the time to do this and that 
is great.  Maya is a lucky girl.  BTW, I also love all the Wallace and Grommit 
movies, and especially the shorts that were done years ago.  Did you see the 
one where the animals in a zoo talk about what their lives are like?

Also, just a comment - and you know this is not antagonistic. I wonder why you 
wrote the last paragraph?  Who cares if others are interested or not in your 
travels or in only posting spiritual things?  It came across to me as if you 
are fishing around to push some buttons. What you wrote before was really of a 
different flavor altogether and stood on its own quite nicely.
> 
> But anyway, back to here and now, and Paris. It's "happy hour" in this
> cafe/restaurant, and the crowd reflects this. At a table next to mine,
> there are three French women -- two from the traditional French gene
> pool, one clearly from a more Moroccan gene pool, and they are drinking
> coffees (2-for-the-price-of-one) and chatting amongst themselves quietly
> and with admirable French restraint. Across the terrace, however, sit a
> group of seven clearly American Girls. They're all in their early
> twenties, and my bet is that their daddies have paid for them to "study
> abroad" and they have just returned from their "Easter vacations," and
> have gotten together here tonight to compare notes on their respective
> adventures, or the lack thereof. They are all taking advantage of the
> "twofer" happy hour discount to get tanked on cocktails, while smoking
> cigarettes the way that people in their early twenties smoke them, as if
> cigarettes are 'way cool and 'way French, and as if they won't kill
> them.
> 
> In contrast to the French women, all of the American girls are talking
> FAR TOO LOUDLY, and far too animatedly. They've clearly been here in
> Paris long enough to have picked up the French habit of gesticulating
> madly while talking, but somehow when the French do it, it's cool and
> sexy, and when the American Girls do it, it...uh...isn't. Their
> conversations, which I cannot help but eavesdrop on even across the cafe
> because they're talking SO FUCKING LOUDLY, all seem to have to do with
> the guys they hooked up with while on vacation, and why none of them
> measured up to their fantasies. The French girls much nearer to me, whom
> I have to go out of my way to eavesdrop on because they're talking
> quietly, more like actual human beings talk, seem to be talking
> philosophy. Then again, they're just on their second cuppa coffee, not
> on their fourth or sixth set of happy hour cocktails. If there is a
> lesson to be drawn here in the difference between two cultures, I leave
> it to you to draw it...I'm just reporting on what I see and hear.
> 
> Finally the END OF HAPPY HOUR arrives, and the American girls are out of
> here like shit through a goose. The French women remain, still talking
> (as far as I can tell) about Sartre and l'existentialisme. Go figure.
> 
> Meanwhile the Moroccan cafe owner collects the glasses (many) and the
> tips (few) from the American Girls' table, and shrugs. He's clearly been
> in the biz for some time, and knows that some people are drawn to his
> cafe/restaurant only for the happy hour. Me, I was drawn back here
> because they serve an admirable magret de canard (duck breast) with
> gratin dauphinois et salade, and for a quite reasonable price. I also
> like the place because their house wine is good and their coffee is even
> better. Does that make me "easy to please" and possessed of "low
> standards?" Perhaps. Your cal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v2.05

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> As much as I love the Netherlands, and spending time with my extended
> family there, it is *also* an utter delight to be back in Paris, and to
> be having dinner in a sidewalk cafe (covered and heated, of course,
> because it's still almost as cold here as it was there -- global
> colding, and all that), and enjoying both the food and the ambiance.
> 
> The highlight of my time "back home" revolves around the time I get to
> spend with young 4-year-old Maya. We have a weekend routine, in which
> she comes downstairs in the mornings while the rest of the family gets
> to sleep in, and we watch "Mayamovies" together on my computer. This
> morning we watched the classic Disney "Cinderella" and a "Winnie The
> Pooh" movie, and the morning before we watched "Despicable Me" (always a
> delight) and a bunch of Nick Park's wonderful Wallace & Gromit movies.
> We chat and do "film crit" all the way through them, which the other
> members of my family don't appreciate as much as Maya and I do, as they
> fear they'll never be able to take her to an actual movie theater
> because she'll want to talk about the movie all the way through it. My
> bad. :-)
> 
> But anyway, back to here and now, and Paris. It's "happy hour" in this
> cafe/restaurant, and the crowd reflects this. At a table next to mine,
> there are three French women -- two from the traditional French gene
> pool, one clearly from a more Moroccan gene pool, and they are drinking
> coffees (2-for-the-price-of-one) and chatting amongst themselves quietly
> and with admirable French restraint. Across the terrace, however, sit a
> group of seven clearly American Girls.

You know, we should start a regular pool on how far Barry
will get into his next "vignette" before he starts to rag
on one of his favorite targets.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kim Jung Un is Angry with Willy

[Share Long]

I guess the Illuminati are also an aspect of the karma of the human race.
Hey John, does jyotish do charts for cities?  Would it be possible to know if 
Austin is really a likely target?





 From: John 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 12:31 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kim Jung Un is Angry with Willy
 

  
Or from the Illuminati.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Or North Korea is taking orders from the US Military Industrial 
> Complex.  All kinds of money to be made with a big war and maybe setting 
> off a nuke (false flag) in Austin would get the fearful American sheep 
> to march in step to support a big war.
> 
> On 03/29/2013 06:19 PM, John wrote:
> > Kim Jong Un's actions don't fit with his ayurvedic body constitution.  IMO, 
> > he's a puppet of the North Korean Army generals.  He's a type that would 
> > prefer to eat than fight.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >> So what did Willy do to piss off the Jong Un?
> >>
> >> http://www.kvue.com/news/NKorea-orders-rocket-prep-after-US-B-2-drill-200590371.html
> >>
> >
> >
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Free Man In Paris, v2.05

[turquoiseb]

As much as I love the Netherlands, and spending time with my extended
family there, it is *also* an utter delight to be back in Paris, and to
be having dinner in a sidewalk cafe (covered and heated, of course,
because it's still almost as cold here as it was there -- global
colding, and all that), and enjoying both the food and the ambiance.

The highlight of my time "back home" revolves around the time I get to
spend with young 4-year-old Maya. We have a weekend routine, in which
she comes downstairs in the mornings while the rest of the family gets
to sleep in, and we watch "Mayamovies" together on my computer. This
morning we watched the classic Disney "Cinderella" and a "Winnie The
Pooh" movie, and the morning before we watched "Despicable Me" (always a
delight) and a bunch of Nick Park's wonderful Wallace & Gromit movies.
We chat and do "film crit" all the way through them, which the other
members of my family don't appreciate as much as Maya and I do, as they
fear they'll never be able to take her to an actual movie theater
because she'll want to talk about the movie all the way through it. My
bad. :-)

But anyway, back to here and now, and Paris. It's "happy hour" in this
cafe/restaurant, and the crowd reflects this. At a table next to mine,
there are three French women -- two from the traditional French gene
pool, one clearly from a more Moroccan gene pool, and they are drinking
coffees (2-for-the-price-of-one) and chatting amongst themselves quietly
and with admirable French restraint. Across the terrace, however, sit a
group of seven clearly American Girls. They're all in their early
twenties, and my bet is that their daddies have paid for them to "study
abroad" and they have just returned from their "Easter vacations," and
have gotten together here tonight to compare notes on their respective
adventures, or the lack thereof. They are all taking advantage of the
"twofer" happy hour discount to get tanked on cocktails, while smoking
cigarettes the way that people in their early twenties smoke them, as if
cigarettes are 'way cool and 'way French, and as if they won't kill
them.

In contrast to the French women, all of the American girls are talking
FAR TOO LOUDLY, and far too animatedly. They've clearly been here in
Paris long enough to have picked up the French habit of gesticulating
madly while talking, but somehow when the French do it, it's cool and
sexy, and when the American Girls do it, it...uh...isn't. Their
conversations, which I cannot help but eavesdrop on even across the cafe
because they're talking SO FUCKING LOUDLY, all seem to have to do with
the guys they hooked up with while on vacation, and why none of them
measured up to their fantasies. The French girls much nearer to me, whom
I have to go out of my way to eavesdrop on because they're talking
quietly, more like actual human beings talk, seem to be talking
philosophy. Then again, they're just on their second cuppa coffee, not
on their fourth or sixth set of happy hour cocktails. If there is a
lesson to be drawn here in the difference between two cultures, I leave
it to you to draw it...I'm just reporting on what I see and hear.

Finally the END OF HAPPY HOUR arrives, and the American girls are out of
here like shit through a goose. The French women remain, still talking
(as far as I can tell) about Sartre and l'existentialisme. Go figure.

Meanwhile the Moroccan cafe owner collects the glasses (many) and the
tips (few) from the American Girls' table, and shrugs. He's clearly been
in the biz for some time, and knows that some people are drawn to his
cafe/restaurant only for the happy hour. Me, I was drawn back here
because they serve an admirable magret de canard (duck breast) with
gratin dauphinois et salade, and for a quite reasonable price. I also
like the place because their house wine is good and their coffee is even
better. Does that make me "easy to please" and possessed of "low
standards?" Perhaps. Your call, which doth not affect me in the least.

Some on this particlar forum (FFL) might not be satisfied with a good
meal and entertaining cafe scenery. Judging from what they regularly
post, they might only be satisfied with their evening out if they could
characterize it as being SO SPIRITUAL, and reflective of the OH SO
ADVANCED states of consciousness they claim to live in. Me, I'm easier
to please. Good food, good wine, interesting people to watch and comment
on, and I'm happy. No "specialnessitudeness" here, and none needed. Just
everyday life, in everyday Paris. YMMV.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[jwtrowbridge]

Thank you, a beautiful response, and I will carry on. I go by my own 
experiences. This has always been my guide, and my experiences daily have been 
magnificent. The program is pure gold. Thanks,

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks John, beautiful post in it's positivity. And unique on this forum 
> > because you are one of perhaps only 5 posters here altogether that does TM 
> > regularily and have a non-agressive take on the TMO. So your idea of 
> > sending it here was perhaps a bit too enthusiastic, it will unfortunately 
> > only fuel more vile attacs on the TMO from the regulars here, most of whom 
> > have not done TM in decades.
> > 
> > Aside from that it is impossible to disagree with you on any point, except 
> > for perhaps the most important; your idea that the
> > 
> > "The goal of this organization is not to appeal to a particular leader or 
> > person, but to the widest possible audience who will appreciate and 
> > practice the TM program in its purity."
> > and
> > "reach the widest possible audience who will appreciate and practice 
> > the TM program in its purity. This is the goal. This is what the TM 
> > organization is about." 
> > 
> > This is a widespread misunderstanding due largely to being stuck in 
> > Maharishi's old thinking or having been exposed only to this timeframe of 
> > Maharishi's philosophy on video, strategies that were perfect until about 
> > 1985. As the Age of Enlightenment grew and became an irreversible process 
> > the old thinking based on the individual was replaced with the concern for 
> > groups, and ultimately the whole world. Already in 1980, after having 
> > prevented the WWII during the winther of 1979, Maharishi said "From today 
> > no more meditators are necessary". Thus Maharishi's focus shifted and the 
> > TMO as we know it became in many ways obsolete, left unattended also by 
> > it's own Founder simply because it had no more function other than being 
> > the safekeeper of the purity of the teaching. No small task, but the real 
> > job of securing permanent world peace was given to the Rajas and the Vedic 
> > Pundits, a responsebility that remains theirs to this day.
> > 
> > So my advice to you would be to "stay calm and carry on". Continue with 
> > your beautiful programme, knowing that some obstacles like bad smell or bad 
> > food or whatever will be thown into the mix at regular intervals, they 
> > don't matter much. Forget about the mismanagement of the TMO, it is 
> > irrelevant for you. Forget that the TMO must become in better shape to save 
> > the world, they won't and their task isn't. Let them do their bit as you do 
> > yours, life is too short to waste on such small things. 
> > One last thing; please see as many as possible of Maharishi's newest tapes 
> > that are available on youtube and are available here:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/user/maharishichannel
> 
> Perhaps what I've stated above will be clearer. Thank you again for your 
> well-meaning post.
> > Jai Guru Dev
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] File - FFL Acronyms

[FairfieldLife]

BC - Brahman Consciousness
BN - Bliss Ninny or Bliss Nazi
CC - Cosmic Consciousness
GC - God Consciousness
MMY - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
OTP - Off the Program - a phrase used in the TM movement meaning to do 
something (such as see another spiritual teacher) considered in violation of 
Maharishi's program.
POV - Point of View
SBS - Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Maharishi's master
SCI – Science of Creative Intelligence
SOC - State of Consciousness
SSRS - Sri Sri Ravi Shankar (Pundit-ji)
SV - Stpathya Ved (Vedic Architecture)
TB - True Believer (in TM doctrines)
TNB - True Non-Believer
TMO - The Transcendental Meditation organization
TTC – TM Teacher Training Course
UC - Unity Consciousness
WYMS - "World Youth Meditation Society" later changed to "World Youth Movement 
for the Science of Creative Intelligence" was founded by Peter Hübner in 
Germany, as a national TM outlet competing with SIMS, Students International 
Meditation Society
YMMV = Your Mileage may vary




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Extend your senses with Google Nose

[turquoiseb]

"April 1st. This is the day upon which we are reminded of 
what we are on the other three hundred and sixty-four." 
- Mark Twain

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> And, you can tell everyone about this combo by emailing them with Gmail Blue:
> 
> http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2013/03/introducing-gmail-blue.html
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.google.com/landing/nose/
> > Cool. You can get them combined with my Guardian glasses. It's a must.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> Thanks John, beautiful post in it's positivity. And unique on this forum 
> because you are one of perhaps only 5 posters here altogether that does TM 
> regularily and have a non-agressive take on the TMO. So your idea of sending 
> it here was perhaps a bit too enthusiastic, it will unfortunately only fuel 
> more vile attacs on the TMO from the regulars here, most of whom have not 
> done TM in decades.
> 
> Aside from that it is impossible to disagree with you on any point, except 
> for perhaps the most important; your idea that the
> 
> "The goal of this organization is not to appeal to a particular leader or 
> person, but to the widest possible audience who will appreciate and practice 
> the TM program in its purity."
> and
> "reach the widest possible audience who will appreciate and practice the 
> TM program in its purity. This is the goal. This is what the TM organization 
> is about." 
> 
> This is a widespread misunderstanding due largely to being stuck in 
> Maharishi's old thinking or having been exposed only to this timeframe of 
> Maharishi's philosophy on video, strategies that were perfect until about 
> 1985. As the Age of Enlightenment grew and became an irreversible process the 
> old thinking based on the individual was replaced with the concern for 
> groups, and ultimately the whole world. Already in 1980, after having 
> prevented the WWII during the winther of 1979, Maharishi said "From today no 
> more meditators are necessary". Thus Maharishi's focus shifted and the TMO as 
> we know it became in many ways obsolete, left unattended also by it's own 
> Founder simply because it had no more function other than being the 
> safekeeper of the purity of the teaching. No small task, but the real job of 
> securing permanent world peace was given to the Rajas and the Vedic Pundits, 
> a responsebility that remains theirs to this day.
> 
> So my advice to you would be to "stay calm and carry on". Continue with your 
> beautiful programme, knowing that some obstacles like bad smell or bad food 
> or whatever will be thown into the mix at regular intervals, they don't 
> matter much. Forget about the mismanagement of the TMO, it is irrelevant for 
> you. Forget that the TMO must become in better shape to save the world, they 
> won't and their task isn't. Let them do their bit as you do yours, life is 
> too short to waste on such small things. 
> One last thing; please see as many as possible of Maharishi's newest tapes 
> that are available on youtube and are available here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/maharishichannel

Perhaps what I've stated above will be clearer. Thank you again for your 
well-meaning post.
> Jai Guru Dev
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[nablusoss1008]

Thanks John, beautiful post in it's positivity. And unique on this forum 
because you are one of perhaps only 5 posters here altogether that does TM 
regularily and have a non-agressive take on the TMO. So your idea of sending it 
here was perhaps a bit too enthusiastic, it will unfortunately only fuel more 
vile attacs on the TMO from the regulars here, most of whom have not done TM in 
decades.

Aside from that it is impossible to disagree with you on any point, except for 
perhaps the most important; your idea that the

"The goal of this organization is not to appeal to a particular leader or 
person, but to the widest possible audience who will appreciate and practice 
the TM program in its purity."
and
"reach the widest possible audience who will appreciate and practice the TM 
program in its purity. This is the goal. This is what the TM organization is 
about." 

This is a widespread misunderstanding due largely to being stuck in Maharishi's 
old thinking or having been exposed only to this timeframe of Maharishi's 
philosophy on video, strategies that were perfect until about 1985. As the Age 
of Enlightenment grew and became an irreversible process the old thinking based 
on the individual was replaced with the concern for groups, and ultimately the 
whole world. Already in 1980, after having prevented the WWII during the 
winther of 1979, Maharishi said "From today no more meditators are necessary". 
Thus Maharishi's focus shifted and the TMO as we know it became in many ways 
obsolete, left unattended also by it's own Founder simply because it had no 
more function other than being the safekeeper of the purity of the teaching. No 
small task, but the real job of securing permanent world peace was given to the 
Rajas and the Vedic Pundits, a responsebility that remains theirs to this day.

So my advice to you would be to "stay calm and carry on". Continue with your 
beautiful programme, knowing that some obstacles like bad smell or bad food or 
whatever will be thown into the mix at regular intervals, they don't matter 
much. Forget about the mismanagement of the TMO, it is irrelevant for you. 
Forget that the TMO must become in better shape to save the world, they won't 
and their task isn't. Let them do their bit as you do yours, life is too short 
to waste on such small things. 
One last thing; please see as many as possible of Maharishi's newest tapes that 
are available on youtube. Perhaps what I've stated above will be clearer. Thank 
you again for your well meaning post.
Jai Guru Dev 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Orange agni??

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
> 
> Is this real???
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZp_q_7IExA
>

No, but this is:

http://youtu.be/DD5UKQggXTc

[FairfieldLife] Highlights from Jazz at Lincoln Center Benefit for David Lynch Foundation

[Dick Mays]

Jazz legends Raise Funds to Bring TM to At-risk Children and Adults.

Excellent five-minute clip of the highlights of this benefit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MYBWbGs9t18

and the written form and the same video:
http://www.tm.org/blog/people/jazz-legends-raise-funds-to-bring-tm-to-at-risk-children-and-adults/
 

[FairfieldLife] Orange agni??

[card]

Is this real???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZp_q_7IExA

[FairfieldLife] Re: Easter Today, The Christ Resurrected

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Xeno wrote:
> > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > Who here wants their miserable 
> > > > > > > little life to continue forever? 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You're sure it'll be just a continuation
> > > > > > of your miserable little life forever, are
> > > > > > you?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Well, actually no. But I imagine some think of 
> > > > > it this way. That somehow, if one lives 
> > > > > forever, that will be better than the same 
> > > > > thing lasting a short time.
> > > > 
> > > > My point was that there are more ways of
> > > > thinking of eternal life for the individual than
> > > > as a continuation of one's miserable little life
> > > > forever.
> > > 
> > > Of course. There are many ways to imagine this. My question is 'does 
> > > eternal life have anything to do with individuality?' If a person who 
> > > thinks of themselves as an individual entity, a soul, entertains the idea 
> > > of immortality, can they meaningfully conceive of eternity free of that 
> > > conceptual model?
> > 
> > You mean the conceptual model in which eternal life for
> > the individual is just a continuation of one's miserable
> > little life forever?
> > 
> > Er, yes. That's what I was saying, you see, when I wrote,
> > "There are more ways of thinking..." etc.
> 
> The words 'Of course' were meant to acknowledge what you said.

Yes, I know that. ??? That wasn't what I was addressing. I 
was asking what conceptual model you were talking about. If
it was the "continuation of one's miserable little life
forever," I was puzzled because I had just addressed that,
pointing out that it was hardly the only conceptual model
available.

> One could also imagine having a very happy fulfilled life
> that one would also want to continue indefinitely. My point
> is, is it possible for a person who thinks of themselves as
> an individual entity to accurately visualise an eternal
> state that does not contain individuality as its centrepiece?
> That immortality, undeath, is not a function of some
> individuality surviving? Does 'eternal life' as it is called,
> even have a conceptual model that can underscore its nature?

Since we don't know whether eternal life is a reality,
much less what its nature would be if it is, one
conceptual model is as good as another.

My point is that the continuation of one's life, whether
miserable or happy, is not the only possible way of
conceptualizing eternal life, except in the most general
sense: the maintenance of one's existence as oppposed to
its extinction.

Eternal life need not resemble one's earthly life at all.
It may have no temporal component, or spatial component,
for that matter. It may have no physical component. It may
have no sensory component, at least as we know it. There
may be no such thing as action as we know it.
Individuality may be of a very different order.

It's astonishing to me that anyone would expect eternal
life to be just like one's present life, only forever. That
strikes me as a truly massive failure of the imagination.

I've been reading an amazing book by Carlos Eire titled
"A Very Brief History of Eternity." His discussion of
the role that the concept of eternity played in the life
of pre-Reformation Europe is spellbinding and revelatory.
To refer to it as merely a "concept" in this context is
to significantly understate the case. It may have had its
disadvantages, but the spiritual richness bestowed by
belief in eternity and eternal life during that period is
incontestable. Did we lose more than we gained when Martin
Luther appeared on the scene?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Renewal

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> I wrote those questions in order to better understand
> what and or who I don't understand, and to do so with
> as little reactivity on my part as possible. The only
> preconceived idea I have about Robin's motives is that
> he has said a few times, and here I will have to
> paraphrase, he has said that he likes to help people
> test their relationship to reality. I am assuming that
> that is why he wrote the analysis of turq and that is
> why he had an exchange with Curtis. I would like to
> understand more clearly if that is what is still
> motivating him.

Share, as I said, if you would be willing to be
straightforward about your objections to Robin's posts,
I might be willing to share my thoughts with you. I will
not do so otherwise. You underestimate the degree to 
which it's possible to discern what you're really
thinking from what you write.

> I asked your opinion because I think you understand him best.

You have no need of my or anyone else's opinion. As I 
said, there is no mystery as to why he wrote the posts
you cite.

There's no mystery as to why you pretend otherwise either,
although you've done your best to hide your thoughts.

> I hold no grudge towards Robin

"With as little reactivity on my part as possible."
Uh-huh. Now, what would that reaction to his posts
be that you're trying to keep from expressing?

> and I am glad he returned to FFL.

Which is why you're asking *me* to explain why he
wrote those posts. Uh-huh.




> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 9:56 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Renewal
>  
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> (snip)
> > Last but not least, I do envy you and Doc your ability to 
> > understand Robin's writing.
> 
> No need; DrD and I have no special ability to understand
> Robin's writing. What we do have are an interest in what
> he has to say and a willingness to take the time to read
> his posts with attention. The only real barrier to
> understanding his writing is personal antagonism toward
> him.
> 
> > I find myself wondering why he chose to share his thoughts
> > about turq with FFL at this time and why he chose to have
> > that exchange with Curtis.
> 
> You do? Really?
> 
> > I'd appreciate any thoughts you have on this topic.
> 
> Since there's no mystery at all with regard to either
> question, my thoughts as to why you claim to have found
> yourself wondering about them is that it's a way of
> sneakily suggesting there was something somehow untoward
> about Robin choosing to share his thoughts about Barry
> with FFL at this time and about Robin's choosing to have
> that exchange with Curtis.
> 
> If you will now choose to be straightforward as to why
> you think Robin should not have posted his thoughts about
> Barry or had that exchange with Curtis instead of
> pretending you're puzzled, perhaps we could have an honest
> discussion. You might also want to address why you chose
> to introduce the issue disingenuously.
> 
> And while you're at it, you might want to think about
> your recent comments concerning holding grudges past the
> new year. After all, it's April now.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Renewal

[Share Long]

I wrote those questions in order to better understand what and or who I don't 
understand, and to do so with as little reactivity on my part as possible.  The 
only preconceived idea I have about Robin's motives is that he has said a few 
times, and here I will have to paraphrase, he has said that he likes to help 
people test their relationship to reality.  I am assuming that that is why he 
wrote the analysis of turq and that is why he had an exchange with Curtis.  I 
would like to understand more clearly if that is what is still motivating him.  
I asked your opinion because I think you understand him best.  I hold no grudge 
towards Robin and I am glad he returned to FFL.     





 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 9:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Renewal
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
(snip)
> Last but not least, I do envy you and Doc your ability to 
> understand Robin's writing.

No need; DrD and I have no special ability to understand
Robin's writing. What we do have are an interest in what
he has to say and a willingness to take the time to read
his posts with attention. The only real barrier to
understanding his writing is personal antagonism toward
him.

> I find myself wondering why he chose to share his thoughts
> about turq with FFL at this time and why he chose to have
> that exchange with Curtis.

You do? Really?

> I'd appreciate any thoughts you have on this topic.

Since there's no mystery at all with regard to either
question, my thoughts as to why you claim to have found
yourself wondering about them is that it's a way of
sneakily suggesting there was something somehow untoward
about Robin choosing to share his thoughts about Barry
with FFL at this time and about Robin's choosing to have
that exchange with Curtis.

If you will now choose to be straightforward as to why
you think Robin should not have posted his thoughts about
Barry or had that exchange with Curtis instead of
pretending you're puzzled, perhaps we could have an honest
discussion. You might also want to address why you chose
to introduce the issue disingenuously.

And while you're at it, you might want to think about
your recent comments concerning holding grudges past the
new year. After all, it's April now.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[salyavin808]

What's this? Problems in a perfect organisation?

I thought "nature" was organising things for the TMO? If you can't
trust the teaching that people meditating together spontaneously
create harmony then what can you trust?

My advice is to quit now before it's too late. The TMO is like
it is because that's how Marshy wanted it to be. He chose the
people in charge and trained them with everything they know.
It isn't a democracy, it never was. I was told that if I didn't
like it I knew where the door was. And that the TMO isn't there
for my benefit, it's there to change the world.

And they won't ever embrace transparency. It was a principle of
Marshy that the people who didn't need to know things didn't find
out about them. Can you imagine an honest statement about the
situation with Marshy's family in India at the moment? You've
got to be dreaming! That'd be like admitting that it's all a load
of crap. They'll keep quiet about it and pray no one reads the 
Times of India. Or FFL.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jwtrowbridge"  
wrote:
>
> I would like to give feedback from the perspective of one who loves TM, but 
> not how the organization is run. I have wanted to do so for many years. I 
> feel I have a unique perspective to do so. I am not angry. I am not dependent 
> on TM other than my wonderful program I practice. I have no ax to grind other 
> than a genuine desire to see the organization succeed. I wish to help this 
> organization from the point of view of one who is a family man, a 
> professional who sees the divinity of my practice, and the missteps of the 
> organization.
> 
> My TM program is the only time during the day that I know my activity is 
> perfect. It is a perfect program. It is a perfect activity. It is perfect 
> knowledge. I have recently obtained all of the advanced techniques. I have 
> missed maybe five meditations in 40 years only because I enjoy it. There is 
> no other reason. Not for health, not for enlightenment, such is the joy and 
> power of my program. 
> 
> I have just finished 34 years as a public school teacher in North Carolina, 
> and I am still teaching. I have been married 30 years. I have two children. 
> My wife meditates. My two children have been initiated. From the beginning, I 
> have provided support to the TM Movement through the use of my house for 
> lectures, initiations, and whatever I have to offer all these years. I am 
> your biggest fan.
> 
> I started TM on November 13th, 1971 and got the sidhis in `80 or `81 at MUM. 
> I practiced my program by myself over the decades until 5 years ago, when I 
> went to MUM to fly in the dome for a 7-week visit. I have gone ever 2 years 
> during the summer thereafter. I have never taken one dime of grant money. 
> 
> I mention specific names and impressions in this letter, not to target 
> individuals, but to show relevant examples of what concerns me. I also want 
> to describe what could be done differently, especially if you want to have 
> credibility with Americans. The goal of this organization is not to appeal to 
> a particular leader or person, but to the widest possible audience who will 
> appreciate and practice the TM program in its purity. 
> 
> 2007: This incident exemplifies so many of the elements of what is wrong with 
> how the TM organization is managed. When I came 5 years ago, I was in the 
> dome for the IA course for just a few days when the men's group had to move 
> because workmen were replacing the roof. We moved to a flying hall near the 
> swimming pool. Unfortunately, a mistake had been made in preparing the new 
> hall. The floor and walls had been painted with a toxic, oil-based paint, and 
> the odor was awful, awful. The air in the new hall was extremely noxious. 
> Fans in the eaves of the building were run night and day. Sidhas pleaded with 
> Dr. Doug Birx not to move us into this situation. He said it could not be 
> helped. I spent one day in the new hall experiencing bliss with an underlying 
> headache. I never have headaches. 
> 
> I walked and hitchhiked to Vedic City to do program for most of the week 
> instead of going to this toxic hall. Once I was picked up by a Board of 
> Trustees member. I don't remember his name. In casual conversation, told him 
> I had not come from North Carolina to huff paint fumes. The next day, 
> thinking the fumes would be better, I went to fly in the newly painted hall. 
> It was better, but still not good. During the 10 a.m. experience time, Dr. 
> Bevan Morris asked Dr. Doug Birx an introductory question, "Is there a 
> problem with the hall?" I assumed that the trustee I had talked to called Dr. 
> Morris. Dr. Birx stated no. Who could question the bliss emanating from this 
> hall? he asked. He added that there were some problems, but they had been 
> worked out. He completely dismissed the issue.
> 
> Who knows why Dr. Birx moved us into a hall that could have sickened the 
> whole men's flying group, but the result 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Renewal

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> (snip)
> > Last but not least, I do envy you and Doc your ability to 
> > understand Robin's writing.
> 
> No need; DrD and I have no special ability to understand
> Robin's writing. What we do have are an interest in what
> he has to say and a willingness to take the time to read
> his posts with attention. The only real barrier to
> understanding his writing is personal antagonism toward
> him.
> 
> > I find myself wondering why he chose to share his thoughts
> > about turq with FFL at this time and why he chose to have
> > that exchange with Curtis.
> 
> You do? Really?
> 
> > I'd appreciate any thoughts you have on this topic.
> 
> Since there's no mystery at all with regard to either
> question, my thoughts as to why you claim to have found
> yourself wondering about them is that it's a way of
> sneakily suggesting there was something somehow untoward
> about Robin choosing to share his thoughts about Barry
> with FFL at this time and about Robin's choosing to have
> that exchange with Curtis.
> 
> If you will now choose to be straightforward as to why
> you think Robin should not have posted his thoughts about
> Barry or had that exchange with Curtis instead of
> pretending you're puzzled, perhaps we could have an honest
> discussion. You might also want to address why you chose
> to introduce the issue disingenuously.

Good luck.
> 
> And while you're at it, you might want to think about
> your recent comments concerning holding grudges past the
> new year. After all, it's April now.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[jwtrowbridge]

Thanks Sharelong60. I feel very strong about the beauty of the TM practice, and 
the widespread agreement among so many meditators, and TM teachers of 
weaknesses in the organization. Thanks.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Mr. Trowbridge, it's always a pleasure to read such clear and reasonable and 
> impassioned writing.  Thank you for posting this here.  I am sorry for your 
> experience in 2007 and appreciate how you're attempting to bring good from 
> it.  I also LOVE the concept of a sentence or phrase that is used to guide 
> every decision such as was used at Black Mountain Center.  Will let my brain 
> percolate on that with reference to contemporary TMO.
> 
> 
> I tend to think of negativity and or conflict like a cut on the finger.  
> Good to give it as much attention as it needed to set up the conditions 
> needed for healing.  Then live life.  The attention and healing conditions 
> needed for a paper cut will probably be vastly different than that required 
> for a finger caught in a car door and dangling by a tendon.
> 
> From your last 2 paragraphs it sounds like, but I could be making a 
> connection you do not intend, that the larger issue is such that it could be 
> remedied by what you call a separation of Church and state.  First, I'd be 
> very interested to hear what you think the larger, hidden issues are.  
> 
> I think you are onto something here and have my own opinions, but welcome 
> hearing ideas enriched as they would be by your unique and qualified 
> perspective.  
> 
> 
> And from at least one poster on FFL, I get the impression that there is a bit 
> of the separation you suggest.  At least as far as teaching TM is 
> concerned.  I'm not a TM teacher so cannot speak from experience about how 
> this fairly recent set up is working.  It sounds like one TMO leader is 
> focused on purity of the teaching and another is focused getting the TM 
> message out.
> 
> 
> Thanks again and I hope you will continue posting here.
> All the best,
> Share  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: jwtrowbridge 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 7:25 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Feedback to the TM Movement
>  
> 
>   
> I would like to give feedback from the perspective of one who loves TM, but 
> not how the organization is run. I have wanted to do so for many years. I 
> feel I have a unique perspective to do so. I am not angry. I am not dependent 
> on TM other than my wonderful program I practice. I have no ax to grind other 
> than a genuine desire to see the organization succeed. I wish to help this 
> organization from the point of view of one who is a family man, a 
> professional who sees the divinity of my practice, and the missteps of the 
> organization.
> 
> My TM program is the only time during the day that I know my activity is 
> perfect. It is a perfect program. It is a perfect activity. It is perfect 
> knowledge. I have recently obtained all of the advanced techniques. I have 
> missed maybe five meditations in 40 years only because I enjoy it. There is 
> no other reason. Not for health, not for enlightenment, such is the joy and 
> power of my program. 
> 
> I have just finished 34 years as a public school teacher in North Carolina, 
> and I am still teaching. I have been married 30 years. I have two children. 
> My wife meditates. My two children have been initiated. From the beginning, I 
> have provided support to the TM Movement through the use of my house for 
> lectures, initiations, and whatever I have to offer all these years. I am 
> your biggest fan.
> 
> I started TM on November 13th, 1971 and got the sidhis in `80 or `81 at MUM. 
> I practiced my program by myself over the decades until 5 years ago, when I 
> went to MUM to fly in the dome for a 7-week visit. I have gone ever 2 years 
> during the summer thereafter. I have never taken one dime of grant money. 
> 
> I mention specific names and impressions in this letter, not to target 
> individuals, but to show relevant examples of what concerns me. I also want 
> to describe what could be done differently, especially if you want to have 
> credibility with Americans. The goal of this organization is not to appeal to 
> a particular leader or person, but to the widest possible audience who will 
> appreciate and practice the TM program in its purity. 
> 
> 2007: This incident exemplifies so many of the elements of what is wrong with 
> how the TM organization is managed. When I came 5 years ago, I was in the 
> dome for the IA course for just a few days when the men's group had to move 
> because workmen were replacing the roof. We moved to a flying hall near the 
> swimming pool. Unfortunately, a mistake had been made in preparing the new 
> hall. The floor and walls had been painted with a toxic, oil-based paint, and 
> the odor was awful, awful. The air in the new hall was extremely noxious. 
> Fans in the eave

[FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[jwtrowbridge]

I sent this as an email to Dr. Hagelin, and have never heard a word. I forgot I 
wrote it, and thought maybe with a few people on this site it would ring a bell.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> That's brilliantly put. I am wondering if you have sent this to anyone in the 
> organization, since the wording of it suggests you are writing direct to the 
> organization, not to the people in this Yahoo group. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jwtrowbridge"  wrote:
> >
> > I would like to give feedback from the perspective of one who loves TM, but 
> > not how the organization is run. I have wanted to do so for many years. I 
> > feel I have a unique perspective to do so. I am not angry. I am not 
> > dependent on TM other than my wonderful program I practice. I have no ax to 
> > grind other than a genuine desire to see the organization succeed. I wish 
> > to help this organization from the point of view of one who is a family 
> > man, a professional who sees the divinity of my practice, and the missteps 
> > of the organization.
> > 
> > My TM program is the only time during the day that I know my activity is 
> > perfect. It is a perfect program. It is a perfect activity. It is perfect 
> > knowledge. I have recently obtained all of the advanced techniques. I have 
> > missed maybe five meditations in 40 years only because I enjoy it. There is 
> > no other reason. Not for health, not for enlightenment, such is the joy and 
> > power of my program. 
> > 
> > I have just finished 34 years as a public school teacher in North Carolina, 
> > and I am still teaching. I have been married 30 years. I have two children. 
> > My wife meditates. My two children have been initiated. From the beginning, 
> > I have provided support to the TM Movement through the use of my house for 
> > lectures, initiations, and whatever I have to offer all these years. I am 
> > your biggest fan.
> > 
> > I started TM on November 13th, 1971 and got the sidhis in `80 or `81 at 
> > MUM. I practiced my program by myself over the decades until 5 years ago, 
> > when I went to MUM to fly in the dome for a 7-week visit. I have gone ever 
> > 2 years during the summer thereafter. I have never taken one dime of grant 
> > money. 
> > 
> > I mention specific names and impressions in this letter, not to target 
> > individuals, but to show relevant examples of what concerns me. I also want 
> > to describe what could be done differently, especially if you want to have 
> > credibility with Americans. The goal of this organization is not to appeal 
> > to a particular leader or person, but to the widest possible audience who 
> > will appreciate and practice the TM program in its purity. 
> > 
> > 2007: This incident exemplifies so many of the elements of what is wrong 
> > with how the TM organization is managed. When I came 5 years ago, I was in 
> > the dome for the IA course for just a few days when the men's group had to 
> > move because workmen were replacing the roof. We moved to a flying hall 
> > near the swimming pool. Unfortunately, a mistake had been made in preparing 
> > the new hall. The floor and walls had been painted with a toxic, oil-based 
> > paint, and the odor was awful, awful. The air in the new hall was extremely 
> > noxious. Fans in the eaves of the building were run night and day. Sidhas 
> > pleaded with Dr. Doug Birx not to move us into this situation. He said it 
> > could not be helped. I spent one day in the new hall experiencing bliss 
> > with an underlying headache. I never have headaches. 
> > 
> > I walked and hitchhiked to Vedic City to do program for most of the week 
> > instead of going to this toxic hall. Once I was picked up by a Board of 
> > Trustees member. I don't remember his name. In casual conversation, told 
> > him I had not come from North Carolina to huff paint fumes. The next day, 
> > thinking the fumes would be better, I went to fly in the newly painted 
> > hall. It was better, but still not good. During the 10 a.m. experience 
> > time, Dr. Bevan Morris asked Dr. Doug Birx an introductory question, "Is 
> > there a problem with the hall?" I assumed that the trustee I had talked to 
> > called Dr. Morris. Dr. Birx stated no. Who could question the bliss 
> > emanating from this hall? he asked. He added that there were some problems, 
> > but they had been worked out. He completely dismissed the issue.
> > 
> > Who knows why Dr. Birx moved us into a hall that could have sickened the 
> > whole men's flying group, but the result was they were exposed to toxic 
> > fumes  for a week due to his decision. And when he was questioned about 
> > this, he did not admit a mistake had been made and remedy the situation by 
> > moving the sidhas to a safe space. 
> > 
> > Systemic Issues: The TM movement employs managers who are brilliant and 
> > well versed in the Vedas or special knowledge. However, this does not make 
> > them skilled managers. The probl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Feedback to the TM Movement

[Share Long]

Mr. Trowbridge, it's always a pleasure to read such clear and reasonable and 
impassioned writing.  Thank you for posting this here.  I am sorry for your 
experience in 2007 and appreciate how you're attempting to bring good from it.  
I also LOVE the concept of a sentence or phrase that is used to guide every 
decision such as was used at Black Mountain Center.  Will let my brain 
percolate on that with reference to contemporary TMO.


I tend to think of negativity and or conflict like a cut on the finger.  Good 
to give it as much attention as it needed to set up the conditions needed for 
healing.  Then live life.  The attention and healing conditions needed for a 
paper cut will probably be vastly different than that required for a finger 
caught in a car door and dangling by a tendon.

>From your last 2 paragraphs it sounds like, but I could be making a connection 
>you do not intend, that the larger issue is such that it could be remedied by 
>what you call a separation of Church and state.  First, I'd be very interested 
>to hear what you think the larger, hidden issues are.  

I think you are onto something here and have my own opinions, but welcome 
hearing ideas enriched as they would be by your unique and qualified 
perspective.  


And from at least one poster on FFL, I get the impression that there is a bit 
of the separation you suggest.  At least as far as teaching TM is concerned.  
I'm not a TM teacher so cannot speak from experience about how this fairly 
recent set up is working.  It sounds like one TMO leader is focused on purity 
of the teaching and another is focused getting the TM message out.


Thanks again and I hope you will continue posting here.
All the best,
Share  




 From: jwtrowbridge 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 7:25 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Feedback to the TM Movement
 

  
I would like to give feedback from the perspective of one who loves TM, but not 
how the organization is run. I have wanted to do so for many years. I feel I 
have a unique perspective to do so. I am not angry. I am not dependent on TM 
other than my wonderful program I practice. I have no ax to grind other than a 
genuine desire to see the organization succeed. I wish to help this 
organization from the point of view of one who is a family man, a professional 
who sees the divinity of my practice, and the missteps of the organization.

My TM program is the only time during the day that I know my activity is 
perfect. It is a perfect program. It is a perfect activity. It is perfect 
knowledge. I have recently obtained all of the advanced techniques. I have 
missed maybe five meditations in 40 years only because I enjoy it. There is no 
other reason. Not for health, not for enlightenment, such is the joy and power 
of my program. 

I have just finished 34 years as a public school teacher in North Carolina, and 
I am still teaching. I have been married 30 years. I have two children. My wife 
meditates. My two children have been initiated. From the beginning, I have 
provided support to the TM Movement through the use of my house for lectures, 
initiations, and whatever I have to offer all these years. I am your biggest 
fan.

I started TM on November 13th, 1971 and got the sidhis in `80 or `81 at MUM. I 
practiced my program by myself over the decades until 5 years ago, when I went 
to MUM to fly in the dome for a 7-week visit. I have gone ever 2 years during 
the summer thereafter. I have never taken one dime of grant money. 

I mention specific names and impressions in this letter, not to target 
individuals, but to show relevant examples of what concerns me. I also want to 
describe what could be done differently, especially if you want to have 
credibility with Americans. The goal of this organization is not to appeal to a 
particular leader or person, but to the widest possible audience who will 
appreciate and practice the TM program in its purity. 

2007: This incident exemplifies so many of the elements of what is wrong with 
how the TM organization is managed. When I came 5 years ago, I was in the dome 
for the IA course for just a few days when the men's group had to move because 
workmen were replacing the roof. We moved to a flying hall near the swimming 
pool. Unfortunately, a mistake had been made in preparing the new hall. The 
floor and walls had been painted with a toxic, oil-based paint, and the odor 
was awful, awful. The air in the new hall was extremely noxious. Fans in the 
eaves of the building were run night and day. Sidhas pleaded with Dr. Doug Birx 
not to move us into this situation. He said it could not be helped. I spent one 
day in the new hall experiencing bliss with an underlying headache. I never 
have headaches. 

I walked and hitchhiked to Vedic City to do program for most of the week 
instead of going to this toxic hall. Once I was picked up by a Board of 
Trustees member. I don't remember his name.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[jwtrowbridge]

Thanks Buck!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Beautiful.  Thanks for taking the time and having the courage to post this 
> here.
> -Buck in the Dome
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jwtrowbridge"  wrote:
> >
> > I would like to give feedback from the perspective of one who loves TM, but 
> > not how the organization is run. I have wanted to do so for many years. I 
> > feel I have a unique perspective to do so. I am not angry. I am not 
> > dependent on TM other than my wonderful program I practice. I have no ax to 
> > grind other than a genuine desire to see the organization succeed. I wish 
> > to help this organization from the point of view of one who is a family 
> > man, a professional who sees the divinity of my practice, and the missteps 
> > of the organization.
> > 
> > My TM program is the only time during the day that I know my activity is 
> > perfect. It is a perfect program. It is a perfect activity. It is perfect 
> > knowledge. I have recently obtained all of the advanced techniques. I have 
> > missed maybe five meditations in 40 years only because I enjoy it. There is 
> > no other reason. Not for health, not for enlightenment, such is the joy and 
> > power of my program. 
> > 
> > I have just finished 34 years as a public school teacher in North Carolina, 
> > and I am still teaching. I have been married 30 years. I have two children. 
> > My wife meditates. My two children have been initiated. From the beginning, 
> > I have provided support to the TM Movement through the use of my house for 
> > lectures, initiations, and whatever I have to offer all these years. I am 
> > your biggest fan.
> > 
> > I started TM on November 13th, 1971 and got the sidhis in `80 or `81 at 
> > MUM. I practiced my program by myself over the decades until 5 years ago, 
> > when I went to MUM to fly in the dome for a 7-week visit. I have gone ever 
> > 2 years during the summer thereafter. I have never taken one dime of grant 
> > money. 
> > 
> > I mention specific names and impressions in this letter, not to target 
> > individuals, but to show relevant examples of what concerns me. I also want 
> > to describe what could be done differently, especially if you want to have 
> > credibility with Americans. The goal of this organization is not to appeal 
> > to a particular leader or person, but to the widest possible audience who 
> > will appreciate and practice the TM program in its purity. 
> > 
> > 2007: This incident exemplifies so many of the elements of what is wrong 
> > with how the TM organization is managed. When I came 5 years ago, I was in 
> > the dome for the IA course for just a few days when the men's group had to 
> > move because workmen were replacing the roof. We moved to a flying hall 
> > near the swimming pool. Unfortunately, a mistake had been made in preparing 
> > the new hall. The floor and walls had been painted with a toxic, oil-based 
> > paint, and the odor was awful, awful. The air in the new hall was extremely 
> > noxious. Fans in the eaves of the building were run night and day. Sidhas 
> > pleaded with Dr. Doug Birx not to move us into this situation. He said it 
> > could not be helped. I spent one day in the new hall experiencing bliss 
> > with an underlying headache. I never have headaches. 
> > 
> > I walked and hitchhiked to Vedic City to do program for most of the week 
> > instead of going to this toxic hall. Once I was picked up by a Board of 
> > Trustees member. I don't remember his name. In casual conversation, told 
> > him I had not come from North Carolina to huff paint fumes. The next day, 
> > thinking the fumes would be better, I went to fly in the newly painted 
> > hall. It was better, but still not good. During the 10 a.m. experience 
> > time, Dr. Bevan Morris asked Dr. Doug Birx an introductory question, "Is 
> > there a problem with the hall?" I assumed that the trustee I had talked to 
> > called Dr. Morris. Dr. Birx stated no. Who could question the bliss 
> > emanating from this hall? he asked. He added that there were some problems, 
> > but they had been worked out. He completely dismissed the issue.
> > 
> > Who knows why Dr. Birx moved us into a hall that could have sickened the 
> > whole men's flying group, but the result was they were exposed to toxic 
> > fumes  for a week due to his decision. And when he was questioned about 
> > this, he did not admit a mistake had been made and remedy the situation by 
> > moving the sidhas to a safe space. 
> > 
> > Systemic Issues: The TM movement employs managers who are brilliant and 
> > well versed in the Vedas or special knowledge. However, this does not make 
> > them skilled managers. The problems that allowed this one example to unfold 
> > are systemic in the organization. People are good, and when good people 
> > make wrong decisions, it is usually due to responding to the stressors and 
> > structure of the system that is in place. I blame the

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Being Special

[authfriend]

LG, I was planning to make my own response to this post
of Michael's, but I find you've made all the points I
was going to make. Well done, thank you.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108  wrote:
>
> Michael, if you're going to bring this up again, and before reading responses 
> from anyone willing to take the time, relax and open your mind to what you 
> are about to read. No one here is trying to convince you of the efficacy of 
> TM or convert you back to its practice. They're trying to help you move past 
> this and find some peace in your life. More interpersed below.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > Some time ago I posed the question that if, as Marshy always claimed, TM is 
> > better, superior to all other meditations, how can that be so, what makes 
> > TM special?
> > 
> > In addition to being reviled for supposedly setting up a condition which 
> > would allow me to take shots at the TMO, I was told that it was not the 
> > mantras that are successful, but rather the fantastic instruction on how to 
> > use said mantras.
> > 
> > Complete horseshit. If that were the case, then you really could use any 
> > word as long as you used it the way Marshy told everyone to use his 
> > mantras. And we know that ain't right.
> > 
> 
> Sorry Michael, but your reasoning above doesn't make sense. The mantras used 
> *aren't* special in that they're just meaningless sounds whose effects are 
> known. They've been around and used for a long, long time. How do you get 
> from that understanding that *any* word can be used? The effortless use of 
> the mantra *is* what made TM different in the worldwide marketplace in the 
> very beginning. There may have been other techniques just as effortless but 
> this was the way that Maharishi chose to *market* his technique and he wasn't 
> lying - it *is* effortless. Now there may be many techniques that advertise 
> their effortlessness either from copying TM or the realization that it is a 
> great marketing ploy.
> 
> > The mantras are as good as any others but even you true believers have said 
> > the mantras are not superior to others, its the WAY they are used. But if 
> > its the instruction, then any word should do, so why have the mantras at 
> > all?
> > 
> 
> Again Michael, your reasoning doesn't make sense. Where is your bridge from 
> "mantras not superior to others" (as in mantras I assume) to "any word should 
> do"?
> 
> > So with TM being special, it has to either be the mantras or the way you 
> > use them or a combination - I don't see the instruction as being all that 
> > special - its not much different than other meditations including Deepak 
> > Chopra's Primordial Sound meditation and others where you are told to just 
> > not pay attention to thoughts and bring the awareness back to whatever when 
> > you notice you are on a thought.
> > 
> 
> In the beginning, TM *was* different, and what made it different, its 
> effortlessness, was copied by others. After all, Chopra was part of the TMO 
> before he branched out on his own so doesn't it make sense that he would have 
> incorporated what was best about TM into his own money-making endeavors? 
> Other techniques may have been effortless also but they don't promote 
> themselves as such.
> 
> > Thus we can see quite clearly that the idea that TM is a superior 
> > meditation, or as Marshy put it, the "jet plane" to enlightenment is 
> > complete nonsense, or to be more precise, a lie.
> > 
> 
> I'm sure marketing to the general western masses has a lot of do with these 
> claims. However "different strokes for different folks" as the saying goes.
> 
> > Now of course if one believes Mark Landau, then one knows that mantras are 
> > repeated to actually receive the blessings of whatever
> >  goddess the sound is associated with - in other words its about doing a 
> > practice to git something, its about accrual of power, not transcending to 
> > gain enlightenment.
> > 
> 
> And why can't it be both? What's wrong with "gitting" something?
> 
> > Oh and Richard W, we all know the blabbity blab blab about all things TM 
> > coming from some Buddhist temple or other so no need to repeat it.
> > 
> 
> Michael, the same could be said about your writing.
> 
> > And I was not setting up a situation to enable me to revile the Movement - 
> > I can do that all on my own. As I have said before, I am willing to believe 
> > anything, but not without evidence.
> > 
> 
> No you're not, Michael. People have tried and what they've presented has 
> fallen on "deaf" eyes. Of at least, a mind that wasn't open to other ways of 
> thinking.
> 
> I'm sorry to say this, but Michael, I'm beginning to sense that you're only 
> interested in the "dirt" about anything that Maharishi and his movement has 
> *ever* done (your recent request for "stories" about the Vedic Atoms was 
> interpreted by me in this vein). And your thinking and/or belief that 
> Mahari

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Being Special

[laughinggull108]

Michael, if you're going to bring this up again, and before reading responses 
from anyone willing to take the time, relax and open your mind to what you are 
about to read. No one here is trying to convince you of the efficacy of TM or 
convert you back to its practice. They're trying to help you move past this and 
find some peace in your life. More interpersed below.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Some time ago I posed the question that if, as Marshy always claimed, TM is 
> better, superior to all other meditations, how can that be so, what makes TM 
> special?
> 
> In addition to being reviled for supposedly setting up a condition which 
> would allow me to take shots at the TMO, I was told that it was not the 
> mantras that are successful, but rather the fantastic instruction on how to 
> use said mantras.
> 
> Complete horseshit. If that were the case, then you really could use any word 
> as long as you used it the way Marshy told everyone to use his mantras. And 
> we know that ain't right.
> 

Sorry Michael, but your reasoning above doesn't make sense. The mantras used 
*aren't* special in that they're just meaningless sounds whose effects are 
known. They've been around and used for a long, long time. How do you get from 
that understanding that *any* word can be used? The effortless use of the 
mantra *is* what made TM different in the worldwide marketplace in the very 
beginning. There may have been other techniques just as effortless but this was 
the way that Maharishi chose to *market* his technique and he wasn't lying - it 
*is* effortless. Now there may be many techniques that advertise their 
effortlessness either from copying TM or the realization that it is a great 
marketing ploy.

> The mantras are as good as any others but even you true believers have said 
> the mantras are not superior to others, its the WAY they are used. But if its 
> the instruction, then any word should do, so why have the mantras at all?
> 

Again Michael, your reasoning doesn't make sense. Where is your bridge from 
"mantras not superior to others" (as in mantras I assume) to "any word should 
do"?

> So with TM being special, it has to either be the mantras or the way you use 
> them or a combination - I don't see the instruction as being all that special 
> - its not much different than other meditations including Deepak Chopra's 
> Primordial Sound meditation and others where you are told to just not pay 
> attention to thoughts and bring the awareness back to whatever when you 
> notice you are on a thought.
> 

In the beginning, TM *was* different, and what made it different, its 
effortlessness, was copied by others. After all, Chopra was part of the TMO 
before he branched out on his own so doesn't it make sense that he would have 
incorporated what was best about TM into his own money-making endeavors? Other 
techniques may have been effortless also but they don't promote themselves as 
such.

> Thus we can see quite clearly that the idea that TM is a superior meditation, 
> or as Marshy put it, the "jet plane" to enlightenment is complete nonsense, 
> or to be more precise, a lie.
> 

I'm sure marketing to the general western masses has a lot of do with these 
claims. However "different strokes for different folks" as the saying goes.

> Now of course if one believes Mark Landau, then one knows that mantras are 
> repeated to actually receive the blessings of whatever
>  goddess the sound is associated with - in other words its about doing a 
> practice to git something, its about accrual of power, not transcending to 
> gain enlightenment.
> 

And why can't it be both? What's wrong with "gitting" something?

> Oh and Richard W, we all know the blabbity blab blab about all things TM 
> coming from some Buddhist temple or other so no need to repeat it.
> 

Michael, the same could be said about your writing.

> And I was not setting up a situation to enable me to revile the Movement - I 
> can do that all on my own. As I have said before, I am willing to believe 
> anything, but not without evidence.
> 

No you're not, Michael. People have tried and what they've presented has fallen 
on "deaf" eyes. Of at least, a mind that wasn't open to other ways of thinking.

I'm sorry to say this, but Michael, I'm beginning to sense that you're only 
interested in the "dirt" about anything that Maharishi and his movement has 
*ever* done (your recent request for "stories" about the Vedic Atoms was 
interpreted by me in this vein). And your thinking and/or belief that Maharishi 
and his movement did nothing whatsoever of benefit to thousands of people would 
be the greatest lie of all. Have you ever heard the expression "throwing out 
the baby with the bathwater"?

> Thus far, the evidence I have collected has shown me that Marshy was a liar, 
> perhaps well intentioned in the beginning but soon after he left India he 
> allowed himself to be seduced by the blandishments of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Renewal

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
(snip)
> Last but not least, I do envy you and Doc your ability to 
> understand Robin's writing.

No need; DrD and I have no special ability to understand
Robin's writing. What we do have are an interest in what
he has to say and a willingness to take the time to read
his posts with attention. The only real barrier to
understanding his writing is personal antagonism toward
him.

> I find myself wondering why he chose to share his thoughts
> about turq with FFL at this time and why he chose to have
> that exchange with Curtis.

You do? Really?

> I'd appreciate any thoughts you have on this topic.

Since there's no mystery at all with regard to either
question, my thoughts as to why you claim to have found
yourself wondering about them is that it's a way of
sneakily suggesting there was something somehow untoward
about Robin choosing to share his thoughts about Barry
with FFL at this time and about Robin's choosing to have
that exchange with Curtis.

If you will now choose to be straightforward as to why
you think Robin should not have posted his thoughts about
Barry or had that exchange with Curtis instead of
pretending you're puzzled, perhaps we could have an honest
discussion. You might also want to address why you chose
to introduce the issue disingenuously.

And while you're at it, you might want to think about
your recent comments concerning holding grudges past the
new year. After all, it's April now.

[FairfieldLife] JESUS THE ANUNNAKI Web Radio plus extensive articles, youtubes

[Goddess Ninmah]

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http://aquarianradio.com/2013/03/jesus-the-anunnaki/

[FairfieldLife] TM Being Special

[Michael Jackson]

Some time ago I posed the question that if, as Marshy always claimed, TM is 
better, superior to all other meditations, how can that be so, what makes TM 
special?

In addition to being reviled for supposedly setting up a condition which would 
allow me to take shots at the TMO, I was told that it was not the mantras that 
are successful, but rather the fantastic instruction on how to use said mantras.

Complete horseshit. If that were the case, then you really could use any word 
as long as you used it the way Marshy told everyone to use his mantras. And we 
know that ain't right. 

The mantras are as good as any others but even you true believers have said the 
mantras are not superior to others, its the WAY they are used. But if its the 
instruction, then any word should do, so why have the mantras at all?

So with TM being special, it has to either be the mantras or the way you use 
them or a combination - I don't see the instruction as being all that special - 
its not much different than other meditations including Deepak Chopra's 
Primordial Sound meditation and others where you are told to just not pay 
attention to thoughts and bring the awareness back to whatever when you notice 
you are on a thought.

Thus we can see quite clearly that the idea that TM is a superior meditation, 
or as Marshy put it, the "jet plane" to enlightenment is complete nonsense, or 
to be more precise, a lie.

Now of course if one believes Mark Landau, then one knows that mantras are 
repeated to actually receive the blessings of whatever
 goddess the sound is associated with - in other words its about doing a 
practice to git something, its about accrual of power, not transcending to gain 
enlightenment.

Oh and Richard W, we all know the blabbity blab blab about all things TM 
coming from some Buddhist temple or other so no need to repeat it.

And I was not setting up a situation to enable me to revile the Movement - I 
can do that all on my own. As I have said before, I am willing to believe 
anything, but not without evidence.

Thus far, the evidence I have collected has shown me that Marshy was a liar, 
perhaps well intentioned in the beginning but soon after he left India he 
allowed himself to be seduced by the blandishments of the ego. 

The evidence I have also shows me that TM is a decent meditation, but no more 
special than anything else available and yet most of the claims made for it are 
false, such as enlightenment accruing from said practice and ability to fly 
etc, also all claims made of TM Sidhis are false (like world peace).

The evidence is that TM has caused many problems on multiple levels for 
thousands of people, and that thousands of others have ceased the practice due 
to many reasons. 

Other evidence is that long term practice doesn't lead to any kind of 
superlative behavior as demonstrated by the TMO leaders and managers. Given the 
downside of TM, the evidence is that other meditations are far superior to TM 
since few of them have the kind of baggage that TM has.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[feste37]

That's brilliantly put. I am wondering if you have sent this to anyone in the 
organization, since the wording of it suggests you are writing direct to the 
organization, not to the people in this Yahoo group. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jwtrowbridge"  
wrote:
>
> I would like to give feedback from the perspective of one who loves TM, but 
> not how the organization is run. I have wanted to do so for many years. I 
> feel I have a unique perspective to do so. I am not angry. I am not dependent 
> on TM other than my wonderful program I practice. I have no ax to grind other 
> than a genuine desire to see the organization succeed. I wish to help this 
> organization from the point of view of one who is a family man, a 
> professional who sees the divinity of my practice, and the missteps of the 
> organization.
> 
> My TM program is the only time during the day that I know my activity is 
> perfect. It is a perfect program. It is a perfect activity. It is perfect 
> knowledge. I have recently obtained all of the advanced techniques. I have 
> missed maybe five meditations in 40 years only because I enjoy it. There is 
> no other reason. Not for health, not for enlightenment, such is the joy and 
> power of my program. 
> 
> I have just finished 34 years as a public school teacher in North Carolina, 
> and I am still teaching. I have been married 30 years. I have two children. 
> My wife meditates. My two children have been initiated. From the beginning, I 
> have provided support to the TM Movement through the use of my house for 
> lectures, initiations, and whatever I have to offer all these years. I am 
> your biggest fan.
> 
> I started TM on November 13th, 1971 and got the sidhis in `80 or `81 at MUM. 
> I practiced my program by myself over the decades until 5 years ago, when I 
> went to MUM to fly in the dome for a 7-week visit. I have gone ever 2 years 
> during the summer thereafter. I have never taken one dime of grant money. 
> 
> I mention specific names and impressions in this letter, not to target 
> individuals, but to show relevant examples of what concerns me. I also want 
> to describe what could be done differently, especially if you want to have 
> credibility with Americans. The goal of this organization is not to appeal to 
> a particular leader or person, but to the widest possible audience who will 
> appreciate and practice the TM program in its purity. 
> 
> 2007: This incident exemplifies so many of the elements of what is wrong with 
> how the TM organization is managed. When I came 5 years ago, I was in the 
> dome for the IA course for just a few days when the men's group had to move 
> because workmen were replacing the roof. We moved to a flying hall near the 
> swimming pool. Unfortunately, a mistake had been made in preparing the new 
> hall. The floor and walls had been painted with a toxic, oil-based paint, and 
> the odor was awful, awful. The air in the new hall was extremely noxious. 
> Fans in the eaves of the building were run night and day. Sidhas pleaded with 
> Dr. Doug Birx not to move us into this situation. He said it could not be 
> helped. I spent one day in the new hall experiencing bliss with an underlying 
> headache. I never have headaches. 
> 
> I walked and hitchhiked to Vedic City to do program for most of the week 
> instead of going to this toxic hall. Once I was picked up by a Board of 
> Trustees member. I don't remember his name. In casual conversation, told him 
> I had not come from North Carolina to huff paint fumes. The next day, 
> thinking the fumes would be better, I went to fly in the newly painted hall. 
> It was better, but still not good. During the 10 a.m. experience time, Dr. 
> Bevan Morris asked Dr. Doug Birx an introductory question, "Is there a 
> problem with the hall?" I assumed that the trustee I had talked to called Dr. 
> Morris. Dr. Birx stated no. Who could question the bliss emanating from this 
> hall? he asked. He added that there were some problems, but they had been 
> worked out. He completely dismissed the issue.
> 
> Who knows why Dr. Birx moved us into a hall that could have sickened the 
> whole men's flying group, but the result was they were exposed to toxic fumes 
>  for a week due to his decision. And when he was questioned about this, he 
> did not admit a mistake had been made and remedy the situation by moving the 
> sidhas to a safe space. 
> 
> Systemic Issues: The TM movement employs managers who are brilliant and well 
> versed in the Vedas or special knowledge. However, this does not make them 
> skilled managers. The problems that allowed this one example to unfold are 
> systemic in the organization. People are good, and when good people make 
> wrong decisions, it is usually due to responding to the stressors and 
> structure of the system that is in place. I blame the systems under which 
> they are managing, and the environment of not recognizing issues that should 
> be addressed wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[laughinggull108]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Beautiful.  Thanks for taking the time and having the courage to post this 
> here.
> -Buck in the Dome
> 

Ditto. In fact, worth saying again: *Beautiful*, Mr. Trowbridge. Perhaps it 
will be read by people with the ability to affect the changes of which you 
write.

Doug, your last six words bothered me just a little. In what way? As in fearful 
of repercussions for expressing one's opinions? If so, do you really feel this 
way?

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jwtrowbridge"  wrote:
> >
> > I would like to give feedback from the perspective of one who loves TM, but 
> > not how the organization is run. I have wanted to do so for many years. I 
> > feel I have a unique perspective to do so. I am not angry. I am not 
> > dependent on TM other than my wonderful program I practice. I have no ax to 
> > grind other than a genuine desire to see the organization succeed. I wish 
> > to help this organization from the point of view of one who is a family 
> > man, a professional who sees the divinity of my practice, and the missteps 
> > of the organization.
> > 
> > My TM program is the only time during the day that I know my activity is 
> > perfect. It is a perfect program. It is a perfect activity. It is perfect 
> > knowledge. I have recently obtained all of the advanced techniques. I have 
> > missed maybe five meditations in 40 years only because I enjoy it. There is 
> > no other reason. Not for health, not for enlightenment, such is the joy and 
> > power of my program. 
> > 
> > I have just finished 34 years as a public school teacher in North Carolina, 
> > and I am still teaching. I have been married 30 years. I have two children. 
> > My wife meditates. My two children have been initiated. From the beginning, 
> > I have provided support to the TM Movement through the use of my house for 
> > lectures, initiations, and whatever I have to offer all these years. I am 
> > your biggest fan.
> > 
> > I started TM on November 13th, 1971 and got the sidhis in `80 or `81 at 
> > MUM. I practiced my program by myself over the decades until 5 years ago, 
> > when I went to MUM to fly in the dome for a 7-week visit. I have gone ever 
> > 2 years during the summer thereafter. I have never taken one dime of grant 
> > money. 
> > 
> > I mention specific names and impressions in this letter, not to target 
> > individuals, but to show relevant examples of what concerns me. I also want 
> > to describe what could be done differently, especially if you want to have 
> > credibility with Americans. The goal of this organization is not to appeal 
> > to a particular leader or person, but to the widest possible audience who 
> > will appreciate and practice the TM program in its purity. 
> > 
> > 2007: This incident exemplifies so many of the elements of what is wrong 
> > with how the TM organization is managed. When I came 5 years ago, I was in 
> > the dome for the IA course for just a few days when the men's group had to 
> > move because workmen were replacing the roof. We moved to a flying hall 
> > near the swimming pool. Unfortunately, a mistake had been made in preparing 
> > the new hall. The floor and walls had been painted with a toxic, oil-based 
> > paint, and the odor was awful, awful. The air in the new hall was extremely 
> > noxious. Fans in the eaves of the building were run night and day. Sidhas 
> > pleaded with Dr. Doug Birx not to move us into this situation. He said it 
> > could not be helped. I spent one day in the new hall experiencing bliss 
> > with an underlying headache. I never have headaches. 
> > 
> > I walked and hitchhiked to Vedic City to do program for most of the week 
> > instead of going to this toxic hall. Once I was picked up by a Board of 
> > Trustees member. I don't remember his name. In casual conversation, told 
> > him I had not come from North Carolina to huff paint fumes. The next day, 
> > thinking the fumes would be better, I went to fly in the newly painted 
> > hall. It was better, but still not good. During the 10 a.m. experience 
> > time, Dr. Bevan Morris asked Dr. Doug Birx an introductory question, "Is 
> > there a problem with the hall?" I assumed that the trustee I had talked to 
> > called Dr. Morris. Dr. Birx stated no. Who could question the bliss 
> > emanating from this hall? he asked. He added that there were some problems, 
> > but they had been worked out. He completely dismissed the issue.
> > 
> > Who knows why Dr. Birx moved us into a hall that could have sickened the 
> > whole men's flying group, but the result was they were exposed to toxic 
> > fumes  for a week due to his decision. And when he was questioned about 
> > this, he did not admit a mistake had been made and remedy the situation by 
> > moving the sidhas to a safe space. 
> > 
> > Systemic Issues: The TM movement employs managers who are brilliant and 
> > well versed in the Vedas or special knowledge. However, thi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extend your senses with Google Nose

[Alex Stanley]

And, you can tell everyone about this combo by emailing them with Gmail Blue:

http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2013/03/introducing-gmail-blue.html

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.google.com/landing/nose/
> Cool. You can get them combined with my Guardian glasses. It's a must.
> 
> 
>   [300]
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Feedback to the TM Movement

[Buck]

Beautiful.  Thanks for taking the time and having the courage to post this here.
-Buck in the Dome


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jwtrowbridge"  
wrote:
>
> I would like to give feedback from the perspective of one who loves TM, but 
> not how the organization is run. I have wanted to do so for many years. I 
> feel I have a unique perspective to do so. I am not angry. I am not dependent 
> on TM other than my wonderful program I practice. I have no ax to grind other 
> than a genuine desire to see the organization succeed. I wish to help this 
> organization from the point of view of one who is a family man, a 
> professional who sees the divinity of my practice, and the missteps of the 
> organization.
> 
> My TM program is the only time during the day that I know my activity is 
> perfect. It is a perfect program. It is a perfect activity. It is perfect 
> knowledge. I have recently obtained all of the advanced techniques. I have 
> missed maybe five meditations in 40 years only because I enjoy it. There is 
> no other reason. Not for health, not for enlightenment, such is the joy and 
> power of my program. 
> 
> I have just finished 34 years as a public school teacher in North Carolina, 
> and I am still teaching. I have been married 30 years. I have two children. 
> My wife meditates. My two children have been initiated. From the beginning, I 
> have provided support to the TM Movement through the use of my house for 
> lectures, initiations, and whatever I have to offer all these years. I am 
> your biggest fan.
> 
> I started TM on November 13th, 1971 and got the sidhis in `80 or `81 at MUM. 
> I practiced my program by myself over the decades until 5 years ago, when I 
> went to MUM to fly in the dome for a 7-week visit. I have gone ever 2 years 
> during the summer thereafter. I have never taken one dime of grant money. 
> 
> I mention specific names and impressions in this letter, not to target 
> individuals, but to show relevant examples of what concerns me. I also want 
> to describe what could be done differently, especially if you want to have 
> credibility with Americans. The goal of this organization is not to appeal to 
> a particular leader or person, but to the widest possible audience who will 
> appreciate and practice the TM program in its purity. 
> 
> 2007: This incident exemplifies so many of the elements of what is wrong with 
> how the TM organization is managed. When I came 5 years ago, I was in the 
> dome for the IA course for just a few days when the men's group had to move 
> because workmen were replacing the roof. We moved to a flying hall near the 
> swimming pool. Unfortunately, a mistake had been made in preparing the new 
> hall. The floor and walls had been painted with a toxic, oil-based paint, and 
> the odor was awful, awful. The air in the new hall was extremely noxious. 
> Fans in the eaves of the building were run night and day. Sidhas pleaded with 
> Dr. Doug Birx not to move us into this situation. He said it could not be 
> helped. I spent one day in the new hall experiencing bliss with an underlying 
> headache. I never have headaches. 
> 
> I walked and hitchhiked to Vedic City to do program for most of the week 
> instead of going to this toxic hall. Once I was picked up by a Board of 
> Trustees member. I don't remember his name. In casual conversation, told him 
> I had not come from North Carolina to huff paint fumes. The next day, 
> thinking the fumes would be better, I went to fly in the newly painted hall. 
> It was better, but still not good. During the 10 a.m. experience time, Dr. 
> Bevan Morris asked Dr. Doug Birx an introductory question, "Is there a 
> problem with the hall?" I assumed that the trustee I had talked to called Dr. 
> Morris. Dr. Birx stated no. Who could question the bliss emanating from this 
> hall? he asked. He added that there were some problems, but they had been 
> worked out. He completely dismissed the issue.
> 
> Who knows why Dr. Birx moved us into a hall that could have sickened the 
> whole men's flying group, but the result was they were exposed to toxic fumes 
>  for a week due to his decision. And when he was questioned about this, he 
> did not admit a mistake had been made and remedy the situation by moving the 
> sidhas to a safe space. 
> 
> Systemic Issues: The TM movement employs managers who are brilliant and well 
> versed in the Vedas or special knowledge. However, this does not make them 
> skilled managers. The problems that allowed this one example to unfold are 
> systemic in the organization. People are good, and when good people make 
> wrong decisions, it is usually due to responding to the stressors and 
> structure of the system that is in place. I blame the systems under which 
> they are managing, and the environment of not recognizing issues that should 
> be addressed when they emerge. 
> 
> This one example reveals a lot about the dynamics of how the organization is 
> managed. 

[FairfieldLife] Feedback to the TM Movement

[jwtrowbridge]

I would like to give feedback from the perspective of one who loves TM, but not 
how the organization is run. I have wanted to do so for many years. I feel I 
have a unique perspective to do so. I am not angry. I am not dependent on TM 
other than my wonderful program I practice. I have no ax to grind other than a 
genuine desire to see the organization succeed. I wish to help this 
organization from the point of view of one who is a family man, a professional 
who sees the divinity of my practice, and the missteps of the organization.

My TM program is the only time during the day that I know my activity is 
perfect. It is a perfect program. It is a perfect activity. It is perfect 
knowledge. I have recently obtained all of the advanced techniques. I have 
missed maybe five meditations in 40 years only because I enjoy it. There is no 
other reason. Not for health, not for enlightenment, such is the joy and power 
of my program. 

I have just finished 34 years as a public school teacher in North Carolina, and 
I am still teaching. I have been married 30 years. I have two children. My wife 
meditates. My two children have been initiated. From the beginning, I have 
provided support to the TM Movement through the use of my house for lectures, 
initiations, and whatever I have to offer all these years. I am your biggest 
fan.

I started TM on November 13th, 1971 and got the sidhis in `80 or `81 at MUM. I 
practiced my program by myself over the decades until 5 years ago, when I went 
to MUM to fly in the dome for a 7-week visit. I have gone ever 2 years during 
the summer thereafter. I have never taken one dime of grant money. 

I mention specific names and impressions in this letter, not to target 
individuals, but to show relevant examples of what concerns me. I also want to 
describe what could be done differently, especially if you want to have 
credibility with Americans. The goal of this organization is not to appeal to a 
particular leader or person, but to the widest possible audience who will 
appreciate and practice the TM program in its purity. 

2007: This incident exemplifies so many of the elements of what is wrong with 
how the TM organization is managed. When I came 5 years ago, I was in the dome 
for the IA course for just a few days when the men's group had to move because 
workmen were replacing the roof. We moved to a flying hall near the swimming 
pool. Unfortunately, a mistake had been made in preparing the new hall. The 
floor and walls had been painted with a toxic, oil-based paint, and the odor 
was awful, awful. The air in the new hall was extremely noxious. Fans in the 
eaves of the building were run night and day. Sidhas pleaded with Dr. Doug Birx 
not to move us into this situation. He said it could not be helped. I spent one 
day in the new hall experiencing bliss with an underlying headache. I never 
have headaches. 

I walked and hitchhiked to Vedic City to do program for most of the week 
instead of going to this toxic hall. Once I was picked up by a Board of 
Trustees member. I don't remember his name. In casual conversation, told him I 
had not come from North Carolina to huff paint fumes. The next day, thinking 
the fumes would be better, I went to fly in the newly painted hall. It was 
better, but still not good. During the 10 a.m. experience time, Dr. Bevan 
Morris asked Dr. Doug Birx an introductory question, "Is there a problem with 
the hall?" I assumed that the trustee I had talked to called Dr. Morris. Dr. 
Birx stated no. Who could question the bliss emanating from this hall? he 
asked. He added that there were some problems, but they had been worked out. He 
completely dismissed the issue.

Who knows why Dr. Birx moved us into a hall that could have sickened the whole 
men's flying group, but the result was they were exposed to toxic fumes  for a 
week due to his decision. And when he was questioned about this, he did not 
admit a mistake had been made and remedy the situation by moving the sidhas to 
a safe space. 

Systemic Issues: The TM movement employs managers who are brilliant and well 
versed in the Vedas or special knowledge. However, this does not make them 
skilled managers. The problems that allowed this one example to unfold are 
systemic in the organization. People are good, and when good people make wrong 
decisions, it is usually due to responding to the stressors and structure of 
the system that is in place. I blame the systems under which they are managing, 
and the environment of not recognizing issues that should be addressed when 
they emerge. 

This one example reveals a lot about the dynamics of how the organization is 
managed. This dynamic is repeated a thousand fold up and down the organization, 
resulting in less than stellar results. No one holds the leadership 
accountable.  And there is no mechanism in place for the rank and file to 
report problems, concerns, or issues. There is no mechanism for addressing 
problems. There is no mech

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta is brahma(n)??

[Share Long]

This and That, the ocean and the drop
tsunamis of everything and nothing colliding
Atman and Brahmin walking hand in hand






 From: merudanda 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 6:29 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta is brahma(n)??
 

  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoaNGsyHwpo 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> I am That
> Thou art That
> All this is That
> That alone is
> 
> That is very jealous of Brahman?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: card cardemaister@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 4:16 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nisargadatta is brahma(n)??
> 
> 
>   
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iamthat_goethean.jpg
> 
> It seems to me the devanaagarii text reads something like:
> 
> ahaM brahmaasmi (brahma + asmi)
> 
> Why ain't it translated as
> 
> I am brahma(n)?
>

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Renewal

[Share Long]

That little critter!  Nothing says Happy Spring better, IMO.  Thanks again, 
Judy.  And I'm also enjoying your exchanges with paligap even though I don't 
comprehend them completely.  Now and then I glimpse just enough to appreciate 
the intellectual rigor that permeates such writing.  Last but not least, I do 
envy you and Doc your ability to understand Robin's writing.  I find myself 
wondering why he chose to share his thoughts about turq with FFL at this time 
and why he chose to have that exchange with Curtis.  I'd appreciate any 
thoughts you have on this topic.   





 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 7:45 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Renewal
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Thanks, Judy, sweet and perfect image for the end of Easter day.

My pleasure. Sorry the second image didn't come 
through--it was of a week-old baby giraffe from a
story in tne NYTimes.

Here's the link if you want to have a look:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/01/nyregion/baby-giraffe-brings-attention-to-connecticut-animal-sanctuary.html?ref=us

http://tinyurl.com/d6esp9o

More pictures and videos--including of the little
critter standing up for the first time--here:

http://leozoo.org/endangered-rothschild-giraffe/

>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 4:51 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Renewal
> 
> 
>   
> http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/03/31/face-of-the-day-124/
>  
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/01/nyregion/baby-giraffe-brings-attention-to-connecticut-animal-sanctuary.html
>  
>  
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nisargadatta is brahma(n)??

[merudanda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoaNGsyHwpo

 
[http://konekrusoskronos.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/grand-mosque_thumb.\
jpg?w=1006&h=683]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
wrote:
>
> I am That
> Thou art That
> All this is That
> That alone is
>
> That is very jealous of Brahman?
>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: card cardemaister@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 4:16 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nisargadatta is brahma(n)??
>
>
> Â
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iamthat_goethean.jpg
>
> It seems to me the devanaagarii text reads something like:
>
> ahaM brahmaasmi (brahma + asmi)
>
> Why ain't it translated as
>
> I am brahma(n)?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extend your senses with Google Nose

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.google.com/landing/nose/
> Cool. You can get them combined with my Guardian glasses. 
> It's a must.

Combine Google Nose with the new Google Maps Treasure Hunt
feature (click the Treasure icon in the upper right on
Google Maps) and you can not only find buried treasure,
you can tell what the pirates who buried it smelled like.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Nisargadatta is brahma(n)??

[Share Long]

I am That
Thou art That
All this is That
That alone is

That is very jealous of Brahman?





 From: card 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 4:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nisargadatta is brahma(n)??
 

  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iamthat_goethean.jpg

It seems to me the devanaagarii text reads something like:

ahaM brahmaasmi (brahma + asmi)

Why ain't it translated as

I am brahma(n)?


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extend your senses with Google Nose

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> http://www.google.com/landing/nose/
Cool. You can get them combined with my Guardian glasses. It's a must.


  [300]

[FairfieldLife] Extend your senses with Google Nose

[turquoiseb]

http://www.google.com/landing/nose/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi how do you feel about reincarnation?

[merudanda]

Besides the fact that this may or may not be an accurate translation,
lets discuss its from a different angles of thought(a 'provocative'
question involving both gender and caste ) on the fact that birth within
a male body(note: Sri Ramana, for example, this work an omitted this
statement about " being born in a body " ) seems to have more "
possibilities "for spiritual growth (at least as long as one believes to
be the body)as indicated in this classic work by Sri Shankara.
Vivekachudamani seems to suggest a few criteria
  1) one you have to be born in a human body ( which excludes plants
/animals ) and in a man'sbody ( which excludes women) and finally a
brahmin ( which on the face of it seems to suggest a Class connotation)
OTOH
The following references to Rishikas in Rigveda may be of
interest
http://www.advaitin.net/MayainVedas.pdf


In the olden days , Sanyasis were not allowed to cross the seven
seas - it was considered an 'offense ' but now we have them
traveling all over the world and giving spiritual discourses
The wise sees no difference between happiness and misery, man and
woman, fortune and misfortune.
" it is a man-making religion that we need " ,
" the older I grow, the more everything seems to me to lie in manliness
"
Swami Vivekananda
In case of great Rishis the meaning follows their words!
Normally a person thinks of the meaning first and then frames the
sentence as per that meaning.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@ no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> >  "I am opposed to it."
> >
> >
> > Another time (holding a flower): "One carnation is enough."
> >
>
> jantUnAM narajanma durlabhamataH pu.nstvaM tato vipratA
> tasmAdvaidikadharmamArgaparatA vidvattvamasmAtparam.h .
> AtmAnAtmavivechanaM svanubhavo brahmAtmanA sa.nsthitiH muktirno
> shatajanmakoTisukR^itaiH puNyairvinA labhyate .. 2..
> - Shrii Shankara Bhagavatpaada, Viveka-cuuDaa-maNi
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi how do you feel about reincarnation?

[merudanda]

let's help out here it's Easter Monday
 


http://ajaytao2010.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/adi-shankaracharya-vivek-\
chudamani-with-translation.pdf

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@ no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> >  "I am opposed to it."
> >
> >
> > Another time (holding a flower): "One carnation is enough."
> >
>
> jantUnAM narajanma durlabhamataH pu.nstvaM tato vipratA
> tasmAdvaidikadharmamArgaparatA vidvattvamasmAtparam.h .
> AtmAnAtmavivechanaM svanubhavo brahmAtmanA sa.nsthitiH muktirno
> shatajanmakoTisukR^itaiH puNyairvinA labhyate .. 2..
> - Shrii Shankara Bhagavatpaada, Viveka-cuuDaa-maNi
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Best analogy, or stuff??

[merudanda]

Another way of lifting up? [:D]
 
[http://www.globalcountry.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Weight-in-go\
ld.jpg]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
>
> One of the best analogies(?) of human levitation:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyqOTJOJSoU
>
> Starting at ~ 2:20
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Best analogy, or stuff??

[merudanda]

Some online dealers selling pyrolytic graphite:

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/

http://scitoys.com/ 
http://digikey.com 

If you know any good sellers, message cardemaister?? [:D] .And do not
forget to drink water water water
   w   e  r
a
t
Maharishi Ved water(copyright)?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5JvNeVZf50&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Magnet moves water (diamagnetism)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FvWtEdY4sE&feature=related

who wants to move me? [;)]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ww-AeKyBfU

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
>
> One of the best analogies(?) of human levitation:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyqOTJOJSoU
>
> Starting at ~ 2:20
>transcript:
Greetings fellow nerds.
Quick question.
[dialogue on screen]
Most of you will answer C and you wouldn't be wrong,
after all in everyday life you'd notice nothing unusual about water and
magnetism.
But interestingly enough the correct answer is B)
water is actually slightly repelled by a magnet.
This anti-magnetic property is called diamagnetism.
However the effect is extremely weak,
that's why most people don't know it's there.
To see it we need to build an extremely sensitive detector.
Luckily, this is brutally simple.
Just get a basin of water and then put into it a Styrofoam block.
It's going to move around a lot but this is actually a good thing.
The Styrofoam floats and because it's so light even the smallest force
will push it around.
So try and build this away from drafts and moving air
and be careful that your own breathing doesn't disrupt it.
The water helps to dampen any stray motion.
Now get a test tube and fill it with water and push it into the center
of the Styrofoam.
This is the water we're actually going to measure, not the water in the
basin.
Now steady it and when it's still,
get a strong neodymium magnet
and hold it as close as possible to the tube without touching it.
Whoops, I hit it there,
let me steady it...
Ok let me try it again.
Slowly, but surely, it's moving away from the magnet.
It's an extremely weak effect, but it's happening.
A perceptive viewer will also ask about the glass,
and yes the glass is also diamagnetic and also contributes to the
repulsive effect.
Now it doesn't matter the orientation of magnet,
there is no north or south in a diamagnetic material,
it will always be repelled by the magnet.
Now this video was time-lapsed, it actually moves a lot slower than
this,
I'll show you the actual speed at the end of this video.
Moving on, I'm going to show this special material called pyrolytic
carbon.
Sometimes called pyrolytic graphite,
it's made by heating a hydrocarbon to decomposition temperature without
oxygen.
Pyrolytic carbon is much more diamagnetic than water, and it's pushed
around quite easily.
In fact, it can even support it's own weight.
I have here four strong neodymium magnets arranged with the poles facing
up
but like poles on opposite corners.
This creates a magnetic weak spot in the center
where the pyrolytic carbon can be stably levitated.
As you can see with this sheet of paper, there is nothing underneath.
It doesn't matter what side it is, as said before,
diamagnetic materials are always repelled by magnetic fields.
Let me move the camera.
As you can see the sheet is levitating about a millimeter off the
magnets
and a sheet a paper can be easily passed around it.
Whoops.
It can support of a small piece of tissue.
Superconductors are even stronger and levitate higher than water
or pyrolytic carbon but currently require very cold temperatures.
Pyrolytic carbon however works at room temperature and can be easily
purchased online.
I've listed some sellers in the video description.
So that's the amazing property of diamagnetism.
Please subscribe, rate and comment.
Alright, so this is the actual speed of the diamagnetic water
experiment.
As you can see it's really weak.

[FairfieldLife] Highlights from Jazz at Lincoln Center Benefit for David Lynch Foundation

[merlin]

Jazz legends Raise Funds to Bring TM to At-risk Children and Adults
__ o __


First see this excellent clip:
The highlights of this benefit fundraising >>>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MYBWbGs9t18
~

http://www.tm.org/blog/people/jazz-legends-raise-funds-to-bring-tm-to-at-risk-children-and-adults/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi how do you feel about reincarnation?

[card]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@...  wrote:
>
>  "I am opposed to it."
>
>
> Another time (holding a flower): "One carnation is enough."
>

jantUnAM narajanma durlabhamataH pu.nstvaM tato vipratA
tasmAdvaidikadharmamArgaparatA vidvattvamasmAtparam.h .
AtmAnAtmavivechanaM svanubhavo brahmAtmanA sa.nsthitiH muktirno
shatajanmakoTisukR^itaiH puNyairvinA labhyate .. 2..
- Shrii Shankara Bhagavatpaada, Viveka-cuuDaa-maNi

[FairfieldLife] Nisargadatta is brahma(n)??

[card]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iamthat_goethean.jpg

It seems to me the devanaagarii text reads something like:

ahaM brahmaasmi (brahma + asmi)

Why ain't it translated as

I am brahma(n)?

[FairfieldLife] Re: He Is Risen!

[merudanda]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment

[merudanda]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=Z1nu_8IQd78&NR=1

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Meditate,Worship the Unified Field.
> Seek beauty;
> Give service, &
> Knowledge pursue.
> Be trustworthy ever, in all that you do.
> Hold fast onto health,
> And your work glorify,
> And you will be happy, in the law of the Unified Field.
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Yea, I finally got a chance to reread it as well, and I think it was
an
> > easy mistake to make on my part. Thanks for the acknowledgement.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Rereading my original post I can see how you would think I was
> > referring to Girish - but I was referring to Marshy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:17 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual
harassment
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Bravo Michael! I was wondering when you'd get up to speed. 
Now
> > let me make sure I have it straight.  Bevan and the rest had to
know
> > what Girish was up to, and they aided and abetted all his alleged
> > activities.  You are speaking of this as though you have first
hand
> > knowledge of this.  An is it okay for me to use the word
"alleged",
> > or is that just some old fashioned western concept.
> > > And, would it be a bit of fallacy to declare that Maharishi
was a
> > typical male Hindu and therefore misogynisitic and therefore
declare
> > that he embraces all attributes you have in quotes, (without a
clickable
> > link I might add). Â
> > > I cannot take issue with the fact that there are no woman in
> > positions of authority in the TMO.  I think that would be well
to be
> > remedied if the movement can survive, but to take that fact
and
> > therefore draw the conclusions you make I think is unwarranted, and
a
> > stretch.
> > > But let's be real.  That is your usual method of operation.
> > > And may I anticipate your retort.
> > > "To seventhray and all those who are in deep denial about the real
> > TMO, there is little hope you can climb out of you naive
perceptions."
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think you are looking through gold tinted glasses - Bevan and
all
> > the rest who were close to Marshy had to know what he was up to,
they
> > condoned and abetted his womanizing, lying and defrauding people
> > financially, so in that sense they are good custodians of his
"legacy" -
> > they Girish is a Marshy student who learned the tricks of a fake
master
> > at his uncle's knee - its is just more of the same behavior -
nothing
> > else.
> > > >
> > > > There never have been and never will be women in positions of
power
> > in the TM Movement because Marshy was a misogynistic man with fairly
> > typical male Hindu
> > > > views of women (kitchen and bedroom), but don't believe me,
let's
> > see what some Indian women have to say on the matter:
> > > >
> > > > "For Indians, girls are a burden; the desire for male progeny is
as
> > > > natural to us as breathing. We utter prayers, make vows, observe
> > fasts,
> > > > bow before this or that divinity all for the cherished,
penis-laden
> > > > offspring, all so that we may not remain childless or burdened
with
> > the
> > > > debit side of the accountâ€"the girl child. For burden
she
> > isâ€"practically
> > > > every Indian, in almost every single region of India, barring a
few
> > > > areas where matrilineal systems existâ€"must be familiar
with
> > the idea
> > > > that a girl is â€Å"paraya dhan,â€�â€"the
> > treasure of another’s home. Exiled at
> > > > birth, she already belongs to her in-laws, who are her
> > â€Å"true� family.
> > > > The word â€Å"treasure� should not fool us. We
are
> > commodities, chattel,
> > > > goods. Why else would we have to pay a groom’s
family
> > for the favor of taking the girl child off our sinful hands?"
> > > >
> > > > from this page: http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/8529
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Sons are taught that they are a blessing to be cherished and
that
> > > > women are there to serve them however they please. This is only
> > echoed
> > > > in Bollywood films, which are regrettably romanticized by the
west,
> > in
> > > > which male protagonists depict their sexual prowess by sexually
> > > > harassing the principal female character into submission. In the
> > world
> > > > of Indian melodramas, a "no" will inevitably turn to a "yes"
after a
> > few song and dance routines in the rain, of course.
> > > >
> > > > Women have no ally in the legislature either, as every major
> > political party has candidates that have b

[FairfieldLife] Cool tech....

[salyavin808]

Gotta get me some of these:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/video/2013/apr/01/guardian-goggles-video