date:20140218

I love the people have shifted the idea of what god is when earlier 
interpretations turn out to be too easily disposed of. I can see why theology 
never satisfactorily answered any questions! But I am impressed with the energy 
people put in to weaving their way past the need for evidence into some sort of 
logical cul de sac of him being unfathomable. God has always been 
anthropomorphism, mankind's vanity and paranoia writ large. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Re "So the argument must be falling down somewhere, probably because I can 
conceive of Him not existing.": 

 So the "Him" you can conceive as not existing is clearly NOT the Him whose 
non-existence is inconceivable! The God you conceive might not exist is an 
image that you've constructed in your imagination based on your Sunday School 
lessons, so is essentially an *idol* - a false god. It is good news that you 
see that idols can't exist. The more idols you dismiss the closer you come to 
the real God that lies beyond your or anyone else's conceptions.

 The 14th-century theologian Meister Eckhart made the same point: "The more 
they curse God the more they praise Him!" 

 

 Re "Seems reasonable to me that God would have a strong moral sense, stronger 
than mine even, and that he wouldn't like to see people suffer.":

 

 The Godhead doesn't have a strong moral sense. It is the crassest 
anthropomorphism to imagine otherwise. (It's another category error!) But we 
humans have a moral sense ("The soul is naturally Christian" - Tertullian, 
third century) so we should encourage that moral sense to flourish in the same 
way that a gardener encourages a flower to bloom and emit its fragrance.

[FairfieldLife] RE: An amazing rock


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 my front yard?! lol
 

 Perhaps, perhaps but I was referring to that rock. Your front yard might be 
mind boggling for all I know. Is it?
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Um...right. From each angle it presents another facet of its personality. I 
wish I didn't sound so crazy talking about this - it is a very cool object to 
have discovered - Would love to take it home for a front yard ornament.
 

 Just more evidence of our cool and imaginative Creator!

[FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Empty - you need to stop this seriously, get some professional help. 

 I can't understand this, I don't participate in this group nor do I have any 
kind of communication with you. Take a screenshot of the message you supposedly 
have or else shut up.
 

 Moderators - Alex, Rick - please delete this thread and reprimand/kick this 
psychotic liar off the list please.
 

 I had this exact same thought. I would like to see the thread and to see the 
context of this supposed "stalking" comment.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 There was no context to explain. Ravi decided to let my wife know he was 
"thinking about her" even though she doesn't know him except through my 
descriptions. Originally she had to ask me who this Ravi guy was. 
When someone you don't know writes "I love you" and "I'm thinking of you" on 
your Facebook page then I call it stalking. Perhaps, instead, you would feel 
pleased and excited and call it worship.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 There was no context to explain. Ravi decided to let my wife know he was 
"thinking about her" even though she doesn't know him except through my 
descriptions. Originally she had to ask me who this Ravi guy was. 
When someone you don't know writes "I love you" and "I'm thinking of you" on 
your Facebook page then I call it stalking. Perhaps, instead, you would feel 
pleased and excited and call it worship.
 

 Oh fuck off Empty. Just because you're disturbed by some Facebook message 
don't be so insulting. You're an ass as well as a tattle tale. Deal with this 
"problem" and stop running off to FFL to tattle on Ravi. Big fucking deal.

[FairfieldLife] RE: CLASSICAL THEISM

Xeno, 

 Reading and learning from books can be a form of meditation to gain knowledge 
and enlightenment.  I suggest that you read all of the books of Aquinas and try 
to disprove all of his ideas about God if you can.  If you are successful in 
doing so, let us know if you have gained any bliss in doing so.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Empathy versus cruelty

True, but just to make the point, even if I meditate regularly, it doesn't ever 
give me the excuse to be an asshole; teacher or students, alike.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 S3, 

 It's a good thing that you empathize with the sufferings of others.  But karma 
is unfathomable according to the Bhagavad Gita.  Some people commit certain 
actions that bring bad karma into their lives, such as violating the laws of 
society.  So, they must suffer the consequences of their actions.
 

 If it is within your nature, you can help others by teaching them how to help 
themselves.  But sometimes some people are not in the proper state to learn.  
This is where charity comes in.  So, you can help by giving some of your time 
and money.  In the end, your good karma will return back to you in equal 
measure, or hopefully in many folds.
 

 As can be seen in jyotish, meditation is a form of charity.  By practicing it, 
a person gets benefits in health, relationships and wealth.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Empathy versus cruelty

S3, 

 It's a good thing that you empathize with the sufferings of others.  But karma 
is unfathomable according to the Bhagavad Gita.  Some people commit certain 
actions that bring bad karma into their lives, such as violating the laws of 
society.  So, they must suffer the consequences of their actions.
 

 If it is within your nature, you can help others by teaching them how to help 
themselves.  But sometimes some people are not in the proper state to learn.  
This is where charity comes in.  So, you can help by giving some of your time 
and money.  In the end, your good karma will return back to you in equal 
measure, or hopefully in many folds.
 

 As can be seen in jyotish, meditation is a form of charity.  By practicing it, 
a person gets benefits in health, relationships and wealth.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Empathy versus cruelty

I empathize, but it is still wrong to steal. As much as injustice surrounds us, 
all we have left is our integrity. Same goes for all the smirking pricks, 
surrounding that unfortunate young man - shame on them.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Avert the danger that has already come?

On 2/18/2014 2:55 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I think it would be more useful to do a yagya that would ameliorate 
> the damage that have already occurred
 >
Suffering is pain, lamentation and grief. Everyone wants to reduce pain 
and suffering, but pain and suffering that was suffered in the past is 
no longer a present experience; pain and suffering that is experienced 
in the present, is an already accomplished fact; the avoidance of pain 
in the future is the only pain anyone can do anything about, whether 
it's a minute from now, or a year from now, or in a future life.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention

No Problem-o, Senor Ricardo. Check this out - I gave her a fake number, anyway 
- the reliable,  "555-1212", that they use on older TV shows, like Columbo. 
So if you find *that* number on Rita's cell phone, you've got *her* number - 
Comprende, Senor?? (wink, wink)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 On 2/18/2014 5:57 PM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote:

 Rita told me you used "Head and Shoulders", and then asked me for my phone 
number. >
 That was the Rita at the Free Clinic - you should call them back right away!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why Can't Hinduism Rid Itself of Fake Gurus?

On 2/18/2014 2:15 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> I thought since many here on FFL have had a passing interest in that 
> which the Hindu hath wrought, they might find it of interest.
 >
So, did anyone coerce or brainwash you into making a post to FFL?

[FairfieldLife] RE: It's just sheer awareness (drišti- mâtratâ) and it ain't transcendent

2014-02-18 Thread LEnglish5

Upcoming research should present the EEG microstate patterns of advanced TMers.

EEG microstates are global snapshots of EEG activity taken every 2-20
milliseconds. It turns out that there are generally 4 basic global patterns of
EEG activity that people are found in in any given split-second. The frequency
and duration of each of these four basic patterns varies from person to person,
state to state, and so on, and people with specific personality traits,
specific mental dysfunctions, etc., tend to show similar patterns of these
patterns.

Different forms of meditation should show different patterns of these patterns
as well, and if you look at the 4th of these major patterns, it looks
suspiciously like the average EEG found during the pure consciousness state
during TM practice.

It is plausible that "pure consciousness" during TM is a period where the
fourth microstate pattern is extremely common. It is also possible that the
claim that "pure consciousness" is a transitional state that occurs between
*thoughts* isn't that far off the mark, either.

It is, after all, where the entire brain appears to be active in a kind of
"idling"mode before moving on to task-specific modes of activity.

See the bottom of figure 4, and the enlarged diagram in figure 6:
http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/EEG_microstates#Microstate-dependent_information_processing

http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/EEG_microstates#Microstate-dependent_information_processing

[FairfieldLife] RE: Empathy versus cruelty

S3raphita, to live in this world one has to have a certain armour. Would you 
have the weight of the suffering and missteps of everyone on Earth fall upon 
you all at once? Empathy requires a certain amount of detachment or it will 
paralyse. If you lock onto a situation so closely that you cannot do this, in 
those situations where in fact you could help, you may be unable to. The 
universe at large does not care in this way, it allows these things to happen, 
so we need to discover an understanding why to make sense of it, for ourselves, 
but that is for oneself, we cannot transform others if we do not get it 
together for ourselves, and even then we might fail. Maybe it has to do with 
our lack of integrity (except for Judy of course), that hidden away there is 
the fear we know that it could just as well have been us, that somewhere in us 
we could slip up in an analogous way, or maybe we wouldn't slip up, but because 
of circumstances beyond our individual reach we could get accused nonetheless.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Ultimate Techno Tracks

2014-02-18 Thread Pundit Sir

Pump Up the Volume

[image: Inline image 1]

Pump Up the Volume - MARRS (extended mix)
http://youtu.be/KJ3uZNpH5dk

"Pump Up the Volume" is a song and the only single by British recording act
MARRS. Recorded and released in 1987, it was a number-one hit in many
countries and is sometimes regarded as a significant milestone in the
development of British house music and music sampling.


On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Pundit Sir  wrote:

> Get ready for a techno rave with the Professor DJ. It's time for some
> techo dance music at the Armadillo World Headquarters. It's time to get
> down and dirty and dancing naked. Let's move - if you aren't going to
> dance, why did you come to the party?
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> Naked - Inside Treatment - The Official Techno Club Compilation Volume 2
> http://youtu.be/Ch_4VY-5gdQ
>
> "A good disc jockey entertains the audience with his extensive knowledge
> of music. Only an individual with great passion can become a fine DJ. It is
> not all about skills. A lot of people become good music players just
> because of their passion, and ability to make interesting moves with the
> music."
>
> Disc Jockey
>
> Steps to Become a DJ at a Club:
> http://www.stepbystep.com/steps-to-become-a-dj-at-a-club-25946/
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Pundit Sir  wrote:
>
>> You can start a garage band - just hook up a Moog Synthesizer to your
>> computer and you have a complete DAW. It's not complicated.
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]  [image: Inline image 2]
>>
>> First, we installed the free Audacity software on our computer. Then, we
>> bought a microphone from the Shack. So, we hooked up our Yamaha keyboard
>> with the synth. You can also get yourself an outboard unit like an Mbox or
>> Motu that comes with Pro Tools. Always try to use audiophile-grade
>> components and MIDI and XLR connections which deliver a signal-to-noise
>> ratio (SNR) of 114dB.
>>
>> [image: Inline image 3]
>>
>> [image: Inline image 4]
>>
>> Daphne Oram - inventor of the first portable synthesizer
>>
>>
>> http://www.mixmag.net/words/news/history-of-electronic-music-exhibition-opens-2013
>>
>> Example of electronic music:
>>
>> *Give It Up* - The Goodmen - *Batacuda Refreshcante* - Platinum on Black
>> Vol 1 Track 5
>>
>> http://youtu.be/B6qzwSxhezk
>>
>> Notes:
>>
>> Audacity is a free and open-source digital audio editor that can run on
>> Mac OS X, Microsoft Windows, and Linux; it is particularly popular in the
>> podcast community, and also has a large following among the visually
>> impaired due to its keyboard interface.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audacity_%28audio_editor%29
>>
>> GarageBand is a software application for OS X and iOS that allows users
>> to create music or podcasts. It is developed by Apple Inc. as a part of the
>> iLife software package on OS X.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GarageBand
>>
>> "A digital audio workstation (DAW) is an electronic system designed
>> solely or primarily for recording, editing and playing back digital audio.
>> DAWs were originally tape-less, microprocessor-based systems such as the
>> Synclavier. Modern DAWs are software running on computers with audio
>> interface hardware."
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_audio_workstation
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Pundit Sir  wrote:
>>
>>> Get ready for a techno tribal beat stomp!
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>> This tribal beat stomp with DJ Danny Tenaglia is legendary - a  homage
>>> to the original Sound Factory on West 27th St in New York City. Picture a
>>> thousand improvisational dancers going wild on a dance floor getting sweaty
>>> and raw; in a huge dark warehouse with nothing but a big dance floor; an
>>> awesome sound system; a huge mirror ball; and a health juice bar. It just
>>> doesn't get any better than this - work it!
>>>
>>> Mix This Pussy - Danny Tenaglia Mix - 1994
>>> http://youtu.be/4iNFfErYMLU
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 2]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Pundit Sir wrote:
>>>
 Tribal Dance Night at the Techno Club

 It's techno DJ night at the Armadillo World Headquarters in Austin -
 three thousand  hardcore techno fans crowd a city-club celebrating the
 re-birth of genuine techno. On Friday nights techno addicts from all over
 the Midwest unite to indulge in their favorite techno dance tunes. Bursting
 onto the dance hall at 9:00 pm with the DJs who set the dance floor on fire
 with a sea of sweat and body energies writhing and swaying in a dance
 frenzy until the sun comes up. If you're not going to dance, why did you
 come to the dance party?

 [image: Inline image 2]

 The Official Techno Club Compilation Vol 2 (CD1) Tribal

 Sundown - (Babmix) - Club
 http://youtu.be/MovNmpKBixI

 [image: Inline image 1]

 'How to DJ Right: The Art and Science of Playing Records'
 by Frank Broughton
 Grove Press, 2003


 On Sun

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Internet TV review: House Of Cards

...reminds me, of the time (squints)...uh-oh, definitely turning into a 
Geezer...but there WAS this incident, early 70's,  on the Governor-General's 
yacht, in Hong Kong (it was still 'BCC', back then - a British Crown Colony), 
off the island of Cheung Chau. I jumped off the side, for a swim, in deep 
water, right into jellyfish tentacles. Felt like someone holding a lit Zippo 
lighter on the affected portions of my body, for hours - not awesome.

So, I was in the head, cursing, well...like a sailor, or perhaps a dozen, 
simultaneously - while my dad, God bless him, attempted to alleviate the pain, 
by pouring the G-G's finest cognac, on the stings (having suffered a similar 
fate in The Gulf of Cortez, Mexico). I finally calmed down, after we pulled 
into the island harbor, made a bee-line for a pharmacy, dosed myself liberally 
with tablets of something, and the rest is history.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 The funny thing was that I think people thought I was drunk, but I hadn't had 
anything to drink. But in order to save face, I did feel compelled to mention 
that fact to one or two people who were close by. 

 I also don't recall that anyone inquired about my well being.
 

 I mean here is a boat full of people on a Saturday night around 10:30, 
relaxing, coming back from having a nice dinner, and then there is some yahoo 
barfing off the side of the boat!
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Reminds me of the time I was in Baltimore for a business convention and took a 
boat ride to the area where they had all the restaurants.  I had dinner at the 
place known for it's crap cakes, and sort of stuffed myself.  After dinner for 
some reason, I decided I wanted a cigar, so stopped into a tobacco store and 
got one, or maybe it was two. 

 Anyway, I walked around some smoking my cigars and finally got on the loaded 
boat to get to the place we started, and once on the boat I started to get 
light headed.  I said to myself, "God, please don't let me throw up, please 
don't let me throw up".  But shortly thereafter I had to lean off the side of 
the board with a very loud throw up.
 

 Now, that was embarrassing!
 

 I guess God didn't come through for me in that instance. (-:
 

 I hope you went for distance and not style!
 

 

 

 

 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 The first pizza joint I encountered was in HK, and the pizza guy only spoke 
Italian, in Hong Kong...Their pizza was really good, baked in a real pizza 
oven, so it took just minutes. The last time I was there, was with a buddy 
visiting from the Navy, on R&R from Vietnam (1971-ish), and we smoked an 
authentic Thai Stick, and then got hungry - what a shocker. I recall trying to 
get up from the table, after eating pizza, and drinking Chianti, for what 
seemed like hours, and passing out very slowly and gracefully, onto my back, on 
 the cool stone floor, and then coming to, several seconds later, just like in 
the movies, with a bunch of faces staring down at me, quizzically. lol - I made 
it outside, and the fresh air revived me after awhile. Obviously, I never 
returned.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Parma Pizza.  Does anyone else remember Parma Pizza?  It was a frozen pizza, 
and I remember cutting open the little frozen plastic packet that contained the 
tomato sauce, and then the cheese.  Very fine indeed.  In fact with my favorite 
pizza now, it is the tomato sauce that makes it.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Interesting about the minimalist pizzas, since a lot of the Italian ones are 
like that - not the triple cheese and meat with pineapple monsters you 
encounter here. Garlic in the crust definitely rocks.
Even though it has been 40 years since I lived abroad, I am always a little 
surprised at how everything, pizza included, has gone global. There was a small 
amount of that, growing up - like seeing a Coca-Cola sign out in the middle of 
nowhere, on a tropical island, or the single outpost of Wimpys (British 
"burger" chain) in Hong Kong, that was unfortunately, inedible - not a lot of 
cattle ranching going on in Hong Kong.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 The best pizza in town (at least home-delivery pizza) is from a place 
ironically named New York Pizza. It's more "thick crust" than "thin crust," and 
they sprinkle the crust liberally with garlic so it's much tastier than the 
thin, limp pizzas you get in other places here in Leiden. In general, Europeans 
tend to go for "minimalist pizza," with only a couple of toppings, but this 
chain also allows you to "build your own" and create truly monumental one-dish 
meals. 

 

 And yes, it was fun. Many of my friends are ex-pats and all are...uh...shall 
we say...critical of the US, so seeing its politicians portrayed as they 
probably are in real life was right up their alley. Still, there were a few 
moments that no

[FairfieldLife] RE: Drink Vedic Coffee and Support Peace

2014-02-18 Thread LEnglish5

Witnessing Sleep ala TM is associated with higher levels of alpha EEG not 
delta. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Do they witness the sleep?  If so they are going deeper with delta rather than 
experiencing just alpha or theta brain waves.
 
 On 02/15/2014 12:04 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
 
   Om, it is better to drink a cup of coffee than fall asleep in meditation.
 -Buck
 
 I can think of less dangerous ways of reducing kapha than smoking. I suppose 
he can always take some amrit kalash if he gets cancer, that's bound to work...
 
 noozguru writes:
 Coffee helps reduce kapha as does tobacco.  Maybe Lynch would look like 
Michael Moore if he didn't drink coffee and smoke.
 
 On 02/14/2014 10:45 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
 
   Is this a joke. Are they drinking coffee to stay awake in the domes now?
 

 If anything is bound to interfere with those subtle level of awareness it's 
coffee. That's what I was taught anyway. Obviously it's not an official TM 
product but then David Lynch drinks it like it's going out of fashion. And 
smokes like a chimney too! I look forward to the vedic coffin nails advert...
 
 U.S.Buck Writes:
 
 The Transcendental Meditative State of Consciousness is Found Within Restful 
ALERTNESS. 

 Drink:
  Vedic Coffee to Support Restful ALERTNESS!

 

 http://vediccoffee.com/ http://vediccoffee.com/

[FairfieldLife] RE: An amazing rock

my front yard?! lol
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Um...right. From each angle it presents another facet of its personality. I 
wish I didn't sound so crazy talking about this - it is a very cool object to 
have discovered - Would love to take it home for a front yard ornament.
 

 Just more evidence of our cool and imaginative Creator!

[FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...

2014-02-18 Thread s3raphita

Re "So the argument must be falling down somewhere, probably because I can 
conceive of Him not existing.": 

 So the "Him" you can conceive as not existing is clearly NOT the Him whose 
non-existence is inconceivable! The God you conceive might not exist is an 
image that you've constructed in your imagination based on your Sunday School 
lessons, so is essentially an *idol* - a false god. It is good news that you 
see that idols can't exist. The more idols you dismiss the closer you come to 
the real God that lies beyond your or anyone else's conceptions.

 The 14th-century theologian Meister Eckhart made the same point: "The more 
they curse God the more they praise Him!" 

 

 Re "Seems reasonable to me that God would have a strong moral sense, stronger 
than mine even, and that he wouldn't like to see people suffer.":

 

 The Godhead doesn't have a strong moral sense. It is the crassest 
anthropomorphism to imagine otherwise. (It's another category error!) But we 
humans have a moral sense ("The soul is naturally Christian" - Tertullian, 
third century) so we should encourage that moral sense to flourish in the same 
way that a gardener encourages a flower to bloom and emit its fragrance.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Country Chuckles

2014-02-18 Thread Pundit Sir

"He who laughs last didn't get it." - Helen Giangregorio


On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Pundit Sir  wrote:

> "Don't find fault. Find a remedy." - Henry Ford
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Pundit Sir  wrote:
>
>> "The best place to find a helping hand is at the end of your own arm." -
>> Swedish proverb
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Pundit Sir  wrote:
>>
>>> "The wise man has long ears and a short tongue." - Anonymous
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Pundit Sir wrote:
>>>
 "Don't mess with old men, they didn't get old by being stupid." - Will
 Rogers


 On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Pundit Sir wrote:

> "Anyone can fail many times, but you aren't a failure until you begin
> to blame somebody else." - John Burroughs
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Pundit Sir wrote:
>
>> "Doing nothing is hard to do - you never know when you're finished."
>> - Leslie Nielsen
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Pundit Sir wrote:
>>
>>> "We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse." - Will
>>> Rogers
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Pundit Sir wrote:
>>>
 "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - Will Rogers


 On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:27 AM,  wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> That's it, Richard! I'm in love with Will Rogers. Is he still
> alive? (-:
>
> Long dead, Share:
> On August 15, 1935, Rogers was on a flight to Asia with the famous
> pilot Wiley Post when the craft developed engine troubles and crashed 
> near
> Point Barrow, Alaska . The
> crash killed both men. Rogers was only 55.
>
>
>
>  On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:46 AM, Pundit Sir 
> wrote:
>
> "Timing has an awful lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance."
> - Will Rogers
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Share Long wrote:
>
>
> Richard, I love this guy! I bet he was enlightened (-:
>
> PS Maharishi said that at the deepest level of every atom, even
> every atom of our body, Purusha IS Prakriti. Go figure!
>
>
>
>
>  On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:14 AM, Pundit Sir 
> wrote:
>
> "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need
> it." - Will Rogers
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Pundit Sir wrote:
>
> "Generally speaking, you aren't learning much when your mouth is
> moving." - Will Rogers
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM,  wrote:
>
>
> So what was the "good catch" you said I made, Share? I don't
> believe you've responded to that question.
>
> << Keep 'em coming Richard and thank you... >>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>


>>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>

[FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention

2014-02-18 Thread lol_you_got_it

Empty - you need to stop this seriously, get some professional help. 

 I can't understand this, I don't participate in this group nor do I have any 
kind of communication with you. Take a screenshot of the message you supposedly 
have or else shut up.
 

 Moderators - Alex, Rick - please delete this thread and reprimand or kick this 
psychotic liar off the list please.
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 There was no context to explain. Ravi decided to let my wife know he was 
"thinking about her" even though she doesn't know him except through my 
descriptions. Originally she had to ask me who this Ravi guy was. 
When someone you don't know writes "I love you" and "I'm thinking of you" on 
your Facebook page then I call it stalking. Perhaps, instead, you would feel 
pleased and excited and call it worship.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention

On 2/18/2014 9:14 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Perhaps, instead, you would feel pleased and excited and call it worship.
 >
Perhaps, but I don't know you from Adam, yet you keep leaving messages 
for me on this bulletin board Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention

2014-02-18 Thread emptyliar

Empty - you need to stop this seriously, get some professional help. 

 I can't understand this, I don't participate in this group nor do I have any 
kind of communication with you. Take a screenshot of the message you supposedly 
have or else shut up.
 

 Moderators - Alex, Rick - please delete this thread and reprimand/kick this 
psychotic liar off the list please.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 There was no context to explain. Ravi decided to let my wife know he was 
"thinking about her" even though she doesn't know him except through my 
descriptions. Originally she had to ask me who this Ravi guy was. 
When someone you don't know writes "I love you" and "I'm thinking of you" on 
your Facebook page then I call it stalking. Perhaps, instead, you would feel 
pleased and excited and call it worship.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger, before it arises!

On 2/18/2014 8:26 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> was it Emily Levin who wrote that, or was it someone else?
No, I think it was the Indian Patanjali who wrote the Yoga Sutras:

"What is to be avoided is suffering that has not yet come." - Yoga Sutra 
II.16

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Is TM a Cult?

On 2/18/2014 8:23 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> Yep that's a fine description of what the TMO does these days
 >
Do you have any evidence that the TMO is holding any pundit boys or 
students against their will?

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...

On 2/18/2014 6:41 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Feser's last name doesn't appear in the post except in the links, 
> which use his full name "edwardfeser" (not "Fesler").
 >
Just cut out all the double-speak - everyone knows that I'm the 
professor and the fester lives up in IA.

[FairfieldLife] RE: An amazing rock


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Um...right. From each angle it presents another facet of its personality. I 
wish I didn't sound so crazy talking about this - it is a very cool object to 
have discovered - Would love to take it home for a front yard ornament.
 

 Just more evidence of our cool and imaginative Creator!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention


On 2/18/2014 5:57 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:
Rita told me you used "Head and Shoulders", and then asked me for my 
phone number.

>
That was the Rita at the Free Clinic - you should call them back right away!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger, before it arises!

On 2/18/2014 6:47 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Avert the danger before it arises!
 >
"pains 2 avoid

"What is to be avoided is suffering that has not yet come." - Yoga Sutra 
2.16

It's a little easier to understand when you read the YS in context: 2:15 
- Everything is suffering for the wise man because of change, stress, 
and anxiety. 2:17 - The cause of the suffering is the super-imposition 
of the material onto the immaterial.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention

2014-02-18 Thread emptybill

There was no context to explain. Ravi decided to let my wife know he was 
"thinking about her" even though she doesn't know him except through my 
descriptions. Originally she had to ask me who this Ravi guy was. 
When someone you don't know writes "I love you" and "I'm thinking of you" on 
your Facebook page then I call it stalking. Perhaps, instead, you would feel 
pleased and excited and call it worship.

[FairfieldLife] Empathy versus cruelty

2014-02-18 Thread s3raphita

Today I was walking past a department store when a sudden commotion caught my 
attention. A young man was being frogmarched to a waiting police car by two 
constables - obviously he was a shoplifter who hadn't been as careful as he 
should have been. But what appalled me was that everyone around me - fellow 
pedestrians, people in coffee shops, those waiting at the bus stop - were 
almost universally smiling and exchanging knowing glances. I've noticed that 
reaction countless times in similar situations. But me: I just felt depressed. 
Here was a youth, perhaps on his way to prison. His mum and dad and sisters, 
his other relatives and his friends would be shocked and saddened by the news 
of his arrest. What is there to smile about for God's sake? It's a reaction 
I've noticed about other misfortunes. People see drug addicts in the final 
stages of degradation and judge these unfortunates as being "losers". I see the 
same people and wonder what sexual or physical abuse they suffered as children 
- or maybe as adults they encountered some other misfortune, perhaps having to 
see a loved one die slowly and painfully of cancer - and think to myself how 
lucky I am that I have never had to cope with such trauma. So is Seraphita a 
saint? Not bloody likely. I am as selfish, as self-centred, as narrowly 
concerned with my own well-being as anyone. The difference seems to be an 
ability to enter imaginatively into the suffering of others and appreciate what 
a raw deal they had. Of course, some shop-lifters and drug addicts are complete 
saddos and probably need a kick up the arse and told to get a grip. But many 
will have just been unlucky - and luck plays a dominant role in all our lives. 
Imagination is often dismissed as idle fancy but really it is a faculty in 
which we grasp real aspects of the world - just like perception and reason. But 
perhaps another cause for people to enjoy the misfortunes of others - complete 
strangers at that - is that they are unhappy ("The mass of men lead lives of 
quiet desperation." - Thoreau) and seeing someone worse off than themselves 
gives them a boost. They suddenly see that their own lives could be even more 
miserable so for a brief moment they can feel complacently self-satisfied. 
 Alas - according to Nietzsche - pity is just cruelty disguised. There's a lot 
to be said for that view - just observe carefully how your friends and 
colleagues savour reports of disasters on the latest news bulletins while 
convincing themselves how compassionate they are. So what can we conclude? That 
Seraphita is a hypocrite! Heads you win; tails I lose.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger, before it arises!

was it Emily Levin who wrote that, or was it someone else?

On Wed, 2/19/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger, before it arises!
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2014, 12:47 AM

   Avert the danger before it arises!

 Every nation wants to be invincible
 thirsting for underlying principle
 now we know the way
 dear Maharishi says: 

 Avert the danger before
 it arises

  long before the army mobilizes.
  In raising world consciousness 

 world purity will grow
 no enemy will be born
 only happiness will grow
 ringing the bell of invincibility.
 mjackson74
 writes:I
 wish I could find a copy of that old song - it was my
 favorite

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Is TM a Cult?

Yep that's a fine description of what the TMO does these days

On Wed, 2/19/14, Richard J. Williams  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Is TM a Cult?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2014, 2:09 AM

   On 2/18/2014 7:55 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:

 > Against - a cult by any other name is still a cult

  >

 Maybe it's time to review the definition of a cult:

 A cult is a small group of people forming a new religious
 movement who 

 use mind control, coercion, or brainwashing techniques in
 order to 

 cultivate certain behaviors in members.

 So how exactly, were you brainwashed or coerced into working
 in a school 

 bakery? Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Is TM a Cult?

On 2/18/2014 7:55 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> Against - a cult by any other name is still a cult
 >
Maybe it's time to review the definition of a cult:

A cult is a small group of people forming a new religious movement who 
use mind control, coercion, or brainwashing techniques in order to 
cultivate certain behaviors in members.

So how exactly, were you brainwashed or coerced into working in a school 
bakery? Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Is TM a Cult?

Against - a cult by any other name is still a cult

On Wed, 2/19/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:

Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Is TM a Cult?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2014, 1:18 AM

Dear FFL I recently thought to
share this with you; So, I
have been in meetings in this last week with both Drs. John
Hagelin
and Bevan Morris: Instruction of new TM meditators is way
up and
growing consistently despite any bad past. As we were long
ago told,
'. .the past is a lesser state
of evolution',
this seems could be true. We are productively moving
forward. TM in
nature now as a corporate organizational movement sect
incorporating meditation, modern science and vedic science
and now in its
post-charismatic founder phase is moving manifestly forward
again in good order.

It is going well again. Will you come
with us and
move forward with us? So, are you with us or are you against us in
this?
Are you with us or are you against us moving forward? It is
time to
move forward or at the least be 'silent' and get out
of the way if
you can't actively be helpful. There is a great need
for teachers of
meditation right now in many places. The news is quite good
around
TM and spiritual regeneration using meditation, modern
science and
vedic science together in the world.
Yours in Revolution,

-U.S. Buck in the Dome
One can conceive
of gradients in spectrum of cults and sects.
Paired data-points on Cartesian axis: Like on one scale
have it run
from a low end of immoral-sociopathic-NPDisordered then to
highly
transformative moral and spiritual at the top of that
scale. That
could work for sorting individuals or movement
organizations. On the
other, 2nd axis have a scale of types of teachers or their
organizations that run from just authors or lecturers, to
sadhus,
swamis, gurus, sat gurus, jagad gurus, saints and avatars at
the top
end. X-Y axis. Draw it and then place your person
organization cult
or sect vs the type of teacher or saint. . as a dot placed
on the
graph. Knapp for instance, being in the news again here on
FFL may
appear to be down at the low of each scale on the graph.
That
placement can change according to time and event horizon
too. Even
can work to plot dynamic life-cycle of someone's
spiritual teaching
or organization through time. Play with it.
-Buck

DoctorDA writes: As far as the long time
habit, and progression, of expanding
one's awareness, through meditation, it has nothing to
do with
achieving signposts, or escaping this world, or acting like
either an
asshole or a saint. It is simply a means of discovering the
full
range of human experience, and integrating it. No robes or
sexual
exploitation, required.
Graphing Data-pairs, Charismatics and
Spiritual
movementshttp://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/370787
As Charisma:
"Weber, in an oft quoted passage, defined charisma as a certain quality of an
individual
personality, by virtue of which [s/]he is set apart from ordinary [people] and
treated as
endowed with supernatural, superhuman, or at least specifically exceptional
powers or
qualities. These are such as are not accessible to the ordinary person, but
are regarded as
of divine origin or as exemplary, and on the basis of them the individual
concerned is
treated as a leader." 1
Okay, no
charismatic leader no cult. It is just an
organization. So by more
scholarly definition evidently your feelings around the TM
movement
is that TM never quite rose up to be a cult, but was/is a
sect. No
charismatic leader, no cult. It evidently was a
movement that you were part of,-Buck
See FFL Post 370565 for a
discussion of the context of charisma, cults and

sects:https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/370565

salyavin808
writes:As far as I'm concerned it
never had a charismatic leader. Marshy's woolly,
illogical and ignorant lecturing style always left me cold.
Corporation is a good word for it though. As it sells both a
product and a belief system that makes that product seem a
lot more valuable than it actually is. Marshy's genius
is the lectures he gave that conned everyone into thinking
all the unified field, sci, land of the ved bollocks was an
ultimate truth for all mankind and that he was its natural
voice.
awoelflebater
writes:I'd have to agree with you about
MMY not being the most riveting of speakers. He was a snooze
for me but he certainly, at least, seemed like a pleasant
enough guy but hardly profound, hardly magnetic and
definitely not charismatic.
TM, more
accurately now is a [religious spiritual] sect in its
post-charismatic leader phase. As an organizational
structure it is
a corporation. Fairly, TM is no longer a

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Is TM a Cult?

Against

On Wed, 2/19/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:

Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Is TM a Cult?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2014, 1:18 AM

sects:https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/370565

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention

I was shocked to discover a few months ago that Target sells Dr. B's.  On my 
second bottle. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 On 2/18/2014 8:53 AM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:

 pycho-Ravi, has sent another unsolicited message to my wife's facebook page >
 My wife Rita, who works at Whole Foods in the vitamin section, said she got a 
call on the company phone during business hours from someone calling himself 
"Bob" wanting to know what kind of shampoo I use n my hair. For the record, I 
use Dr. Bronner's, if anyone else is interested. Go figure.
 
 http://www.drbronner.com/ http://www.drbronner.com/

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...

well, it is an interesting point you make Ann.  I do think that the atheists, 
in general like keeping the discussion on a more abstract, highly philosophical 
track. 

 I mean, if I understand it correctly, an atheist would have to believe that we 
are born as a blank slate.  And that when we die, it is "fade to black"
 

 That has so many implications that fly in the face of everyday experience, me 
thinks.
 

 Twins separated at birth, growing up in different environments.  How could 
they in any way develop similarities as they are know to do.
 

 Or all the strange accounts of children recalling past lives and verifiable 
events.
 

 I mean, these things happen all the time, and I don't think the atheist has 
any sensible explanation for them, except, "there is so much we don't know 
about brain functioning or genetics"
 

 Anyway, that's my rant.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Well, I think once you open the door to the possibility that consciousness may 
continue after physical death you open the door to the possibility that there 
is an agency at work behind the scenes organizing this activity.  
 And then there's there are the many anomalies such as twins separated at 
birth, who develop similar skills, or the hundreds of examples of people 
recalling things that they have no business recalling.  And when you bring up 
these examples to atheists, you sometimes hear them play a very Godlike card 
such as, "There's so much we don't know about genetics", or "There's so much we 
don't know about the brain".  Sounds very much like, "God works in mysteries 
ways".

 

 For the record, I am pretty clueless about God, but I do believe in a higher 
power at work here.
 

 I do too. And I find it so strange when people say I want "proof" because it 
is everywhere. There is nothing but proof from the oatmeal you cook for 
breakfast to the airplane that flies. It is just so strange that everyone 
doesn't see that. It is like being in a garden and the person next to you asks 
where the flowers are.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Good questions, especially in an argument started by and perpetuated by 
someone who doesn't even have the balls to say what she believes. She's arguing 
*literally* just for the sake of arguing. Go figure. 

As for life after death, you didn't ask me but I don't see that this has 
anything to do with God or the belief or non-belief in one. I don't believe in 
a God, but I suspect (based on subjective experience of fairly dynamic waking 
state "past-life flashbacks) that consciousness may continue after physical 
death. But that has nothing whatsoever IMO to do with either the existence of a 
God or the existence of any kind of "morality" or "fairness" as you imply with 
your notions about karma. 

I think that "fairness" is a human-invented concept that does not exist in 
nature, and never has. It's a myth that people think up so that they won't be 
so frightened of the idea of chaos and indeterminancy. That's why they invent 
the myth of God too IMO, but one doesn't necessarily have anything to do with 
the other. 

Anyway, as for the Great Mystery that we call death, I pass along an 
interesting song that will probably not mean anything to anyone here who isn't 
a fan of the Canadian TV show "Lost Girl." This song (in its entirety) was used 
to close the last show of the season, in which one of everyone's favorite 
characters gets to explore the Great Mystery, and IMO it was brilliantly 
chosen, because all over Canada and North America fans were weeping to see her 
go. But as to WHERE she's going, that's still a Great Mystery, as much in 
fiction as in real life. No problemo...we'll all find out soon enough 
ourselves. 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2fCcggNkTs 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2fCcggNkTs


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Does it advance the discussion in anyway to ask what "you" believe, say in 
regards to what happens when you die, or when "anyone" dies?  Is it the atheist 
position that it's "lights out". Options - "expire worthless" 

 Now, I know one might say, "I have no evidence that, that's not the case", but 
I'd like to know what "you" believe.
 

 My analysis compels me to believe that there is an element of karma, and that 
karma carries over from one existence to the next, and the next.  To use a oft 
cited example, the person who is a mass murderer, just merges back into 
nothingness upon death?  No consequences?  So people get away with murder?  Or 
no kudos for a generous life?  No second chance for a life cut down after one 
or two years?
 

 Step away from the theory for a moment and tell us, if you care to, what you 
believe in this regard.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...

Sure, thanks for elaborating.  Although I don't have any recall experiences of 
a previous existence, I think we all have spent some time trying to come to 
some understanding of "what it all means"

 Now, in my cosmology, I can't make sense of things without introducing the 
tenants of karma and reincarnation.  Having said that, it's not anything I 
think about regularly, at least anymore.

 Now, sal is on record here that he is baffled by karma - how it might work etc.

 Well, hell yea, I'm baffled too.

 But here is a bottom line for me.  Once you open yourself that we are not born 
as blank slate. Once you you open yourself to the notion of consciousness 
existing after physical death, then you might have to adjust your beliefs as to 
their being some sort of  higher power who has a hand in things.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 From: "steve.sundur@..." 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 3:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...
 > 
 > I mean, I guess it could boil down to one question.  
> 
> If there is consciousness after physical death, why?

 Why not? 

I differ with Curtis and others God-skeptics here in that I don't necessarily 
see a one-to-one mapping between brain chemistry and consciousness. I've had 
too many OOTB experiences and remembrances of time spent in the Bardo between 
death and life to not place some credence in them. 

True, they could all be illusions, mere brain farts that I am interpreting as 
memories, but they are just as strong and just as real as any other memories 
I've ever formed, so I give them the same weight. I've also studied enough 
Tibetan Buddhism to be comfortable with its descriptions of life after death, 
and had them resonate so deeply with my own memories that I pay that belief 
system heed.

Do I think about this stuff much? No way. It's just a baseline set of 
assumptions that I assume...for now. I certainly don't debate them or try to 
convince others to assume the same things. As I've said many times before, I 
don't see the percentage in dwelling on the subject too much. I've got my own 
version of Pascal's Wager, and it keeps me feeling fine and dandy, and focusing 
on life, not death. 

Pascal's Wager? Classic God/No God argument. I never liked it because it always 
struck me as entirely fear-based, but here goes. As I remember it, ole' Blaise 
came up with his strongest argument for believing in God, and phrased it in 
terms of a bet, a wager. You either bet that God exists, or you bet that he 
doesn't. This leads to four possible outcomes. If you bet that God doesn't 
exist and he doesn't...no harm, no foul. If you bet that he does exist and he 
doesn't...again no harm, no foul. If you bet that God does exist and he does, 
you win. If you bet that God doesn't exist and he doesbt...you lose. 
Especially if you believe in sin and punishment and a vengeful God and all 
that. Pascal figured that the safest bet was to wager that God exists. 

My wager is more like this, because I don't believe in any of that sin and 
vengeful God crap. If I believe in life after death and there is some, then I 
will be pleased by that and I win. If I believe that there is life after death 
and there is none, and everything just goes black, there will be no "I" present 
to even be disappointed, so again I win. 

So I'll stick with my win-win baseline set of assumptions for now. :-)

 From: "steve.sundur@..." 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 3:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...

   I mean, I guess it could boil down to one question.  

 If there is consciousness after physical death, why?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Good questions, especially in an argument started by and perpetuated by 
someone who doesn't even have the balls to say what she believes. She's arguing 
*literally* just for the sake of arguing. Go figure. 

As for life after death, you didn't ask me but I don't see that this has 
anything to do with God or the belief or non-belief in one. I don't believe in 
a God, but I suspect (based on subjective experience of fairly dynamic waking 
state "past-life flashbacks) that consciousness may continue after physical 
death. But that has nothing whatsoever IMO to do with either the existence of a 
God or the existence of any kind of "morality" or "fairness" as you imply with 
your notions about karma. 

I think that "fairness" is a human-invented concept that does not exist in 
nature, and never has. It's a myth that people think up so that they won't be 
so frightened of the idea of chaos and indeterminancy. That's why they invent 
the myth of God too IMO, but one doesn't necessarily have anything to do with 
the other. 

Anyway, as for the Great Mystery that we call death, I pass along an 
interesting song that will probably not mean anything to anyone here who isn't 
a fan of the Canadi

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Internet TV review: House Of Cards

The funny thing was that I think people thought I was drunk, but I hadn't had 
anything to drink. But in order to save face, I did feel compelled to mention 
that fact to one or two people who were close by. 

 I also don't recall that anyone inquired about my well being.
 

 I mean here is a boat full of people on a Saturday night around 10:30, 
relaxing, coming back from having a nice dinner, and then there is some yahoo 
barfing off the side of the boat!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Reminds me of the time I was in Baltimore for a business convention and took a 
boat ride to the area where they had all the restaurants.  I had dinner at the 
place known for it's crap cakes, and sort of stuffed myself.  After dinner for 
some reason, I decided I wanted a cigar, so stopped into a tobacco store and 
got one, or maybe it was two. 

 Anyway, I walked around some smoking my cigars and finally got on the loaded 
boat to get to the place we started, and once on the boat I started to get 
light headed.  I said to myself, "God, please don't let me throw up, please 
don't let me throw up".  But shortly thereafter I had to lean off the side of 
the board with a very loud throw up.
 

 Now, that was embarrassing!
 

 I guess God didn't come through for me in that instance. (-:
 

 I hope you went for distance and not style!
 

 

 

 

 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 The first pizza joint I encountered was in HK, and the pizza guy only spoke 
Italian, in Hong Kong...Their pizza was really good, baked in a real pizza 
oven, so it took just minutes. The last time I was there, was with a buddy 
visiting from the Navy, on R&R from Vietnam (1971-ish), and we smoked an 
authentic Thai Stick, and then got hungry - what a shocker. I recall trying to 
get up from the table, after eating pizza, and drinking Chianti, for what 
seemed like hours, and passing out very slowly and gracefully, onto my back, on 
 the cool stone floor, and then coming to, several seconds later, just like in 
the movies, with a bunch of faces staring down at me, quizzically. lol - I made 
it outside, and the fresh air revived me after awhile. Obviously, I never 
returned.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Parma Pizza.  Does anyone else remember Parma Pizza?  It was a frozen pizza, 
and I remember cutting open the little frozen plastic packet that contained the 
tomato sauce, and then the cheese.  Very fine indeed.  In fact with my favorite 
pizza now, it is the tomato sauce that makes it.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Interesting about the minimalist pizzas, since a lot of the Italian ones are 
like that - not the triple cheese and meat with pineapple monsters you 
encounter here. Garlic in the crust definitely rocks.
Even though it has been 40 years since I lived abroad, I am always a little 
surprised at how everything, pizza included, has gone global. There was a small 
amount of that, growing up - like seeing a Coca-Cola sign out in the middle of 
nowhere, on a tropical island, or the single outpost of Wimpys (British 
"burger" chain) in Hong Kong, that was unfortunately, inedible - not a lot of 
cattle ranching going on in Hong Kong.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 The best pizza in town (at least home-delivery pizza) is from a place 
ironically named New York Pizza. It's more "thick crust" than "thin crust," and 
they sprinkle the crust liberally with garlic so it's much tastier than the 
thin, limp pizzas you get in other places here in Leiden. In general, Europeans 
tend to go for "minimalist pizza," with only a couple of toppings, but this 
chain also allows you to "build your own" and create truly monumental one-dish 
meals. 

 

 And yes, it was fun. Many of my friends are ex-pats and all are...uh...shall 
we say...critical of the US, so seeing its politicians portrayed as they 
probably are in real life was right up their alley. Still, there were a few 
moments that no one was prepared for, such as the end of episode 1 of this new 
season. *Nobody* saw that coming.  

 

 From: "doctordumbass@..." 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 3:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Internet TV review: House Of Cards
 
 
   Oops - yeah, I fucked up on that one -- Much of the time, when you do not 
set the stage for your viewing pleasure, it sounds like you are holed up in 
your room, in front of the tube. But obviously, not always. Sounds like a great 
time!! Can the Dutch make a decent pizza - is it thin crust, or deep dish?


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Sounds to me as if you've never figured out that you can watch a TV series in 
the company of other people, in my case half a dozen friends who also liked the 
first season who took advantage of me being the first person in town to get the 
entire series.  We went through fairly extraordinary amounts

[FairfieldLife] Avert the danger, before it arises!

2014-02-18 Thread dhamiltony2k5

Avert the danger before it arises!
 
 
 Every nation wants to be invincible
 thirsting for underlying principle
 now we know the way
 dear Maharishi says: 
 
Avert the danger before it arises

 long before the army mobilizes.
 In raising world consciousness 
 world purity will grow
 no enemy will be born
 only happiness will grow
 ringing the bell of invincibility.
 

 mjackson74 writes:
 I wish I could find a copy of that old song - it was my favorite

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...

Feser's last name doesn't appear in the post except in the links, which use his 
full name "edwardfeser" (not "Fesler"). 

 The neo search function does not work very well, I could not find the material 
you mentioned. Can you give me the post number? There was no post I could find 
that credited Fesler directly in the past few days. Name the post number that 
has Fesler quotes that describe classical theism.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention

"...from someone calling himself "Bob" wanting to know what kind of shampoo I 
use n my hair. For the record, I use Dr. Bronner's, if anyone else is 
interested. Go figure."

Guilty. Hmmm, Rita told me you used "Head and Shoulders", and then asked me for 
my phone number. Go figure...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention


On 2/18/2014 3:49 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

Let me say it another way

>
Let me say it another way: Maybe by "stalking" Barry means "monitoring" 
his messages on FFL. Internet stalking is defined as unwanted or 
obsessive attention by an individual or group toward another person. So, 
I'd say that if Judy is monitoring 24 x 7 every single message Barry 
posts to FFL and posting corrections and comments, then I'd say Judy is 
probably monitoring Barry. But, the real question is, why did Judy and 
Barry come over here from Google Groups to stalk and monitor me? Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...


On 2/18/2014 4:00 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Xeno might also want to check with his mentor Barry concerning 
Wikipedia's reliability.

>
We should probably also check the dictionary.

the·ism:

"belief in the existence of a god or gods; specifically :  belief in the 
existence of one God viewed as the creative source of the human race and 
the world who transcends yet is immanent in the world ."


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theism

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...


On 2/18/2014 4:00 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

It's very well established what it is.

>
It may be very well established but let's review what we know about theism:

Monotheism, the belief in the existence of one transcendent God, is the 
classical use of the word "theism" in Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. 
Polytheism is the belief that there is more than one god, for example in 
Hindu, Egyptian, and Greek religions. First came polytheism, then can 
monotheism, and then came deism - the belief in reason and observation 
to determine the existence of God the Creator.

[FairfieldLife] RE: An amazing rock

Um...right. From each angle it presents another facet of its personality. I 
wish I didn't sound so crazy talking about this - it is a very cool object to 
have discovered - Would love to take it home for a front yard ornament.

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'thot'

Yes, exactly! Not a big surprise - just play it repeatedly. Of course it comes 
from inside me, so I will sometimes listen to a song of mine thirty or forty 
times, to truly understand it. Fade The Cloth!!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Man post some more of that - playing that really amped up the bliss I am 
currently perceiving (no joke, it did!)
 
 On Tue, 2/18/14, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@...> wrote:
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'thot'
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, February 18, 2014, 6:10 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 My latest - surfing the line between music and
 thinking. Two minutes:
 https://app.box.com/s/1umn41y4wd8vmgif2w4u 
https://app.box.com/s/1umn41y4wd8vmgif2w4u
 copyright Temple Dog 2014

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Some Americans Believe the Sun Revolves around the Earth

Yes, of course. Haven't seen her for a couple of years, lowly sinner that I 
am.:-)
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Doc, 

 Your daughter-in-law must think you're misguided and must be saved.  :)

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...

The neo search function does not work very well, I could not find the material 
you mentioned. Can you give me the post number? There was no post I could find 
that credited Fesler directly in the past few days. Name the post number that 
has Fesler quotes that describe classical theism.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger that has already come?

They used to make regular pleas for money for yagyas because jyotishees had 
predicted trouble ahead from bad planetary influences. I used to tell anyone 
who would listen (not many to be honest) NOT to donate to the yagya, I reasoned 
that no prayer to the gods for intervention might be a good test of jyotish, if 
something terrible happened we'd have a positive result!   Sort of, you know 
what I mean 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 THey love this kind of crap cause they can ask for heaps more money - and if 
their jyotish worked, why didn't they predict the rains and do a jyotish/yagya 
rain dance in reverse to "avert the danger, before it arises!" I wish I could 
find a copy of that old song - it was my favorite to mock even in my old TM 
junkie days.
 
 On Tue, 2/18/14, salyavin808 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger that has already come?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, February 18, 2014, 8:18 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Got this in the
 post today. Bless them, but I can't help thinking
 it's a missed opportunity. The purpose of jyotish and
 yagya is to predict
 and avert dangers, not get a yagya together after it's
 stopped raining and half the country is underwater.
 Doh! 
 Still, a bit of affluence will be
 most welcome I'm sure...
 National Maharishi Yagyas
 sponsored by the United Kingdom
 from February 18th to February 28th 2014 Special Yagya to Avert
 Natural Disaster 
  National Maharishi Yagyas
 for the United Kingdom.Dear
 Governors, Sidhas, and
 Meditators,  We are very happy to announce that
 as from February 18th the Maharishi Vedic Pandits are
 performing two National Maharishi Yagyas for the United
 Kingdom.  Because
 of the severe flooding and very high winds over the past
 weeks which have caused such devastation, we have organised
 a National Yagya to avert natural disaster. We would like to
 organise another of these Yagyas from March 5th to 15th, and
 everyone is warmly invited to donate towards
 this.   The full purposes of these
 National Yagyas are:to promote affluence
 for the United Kingdom.to help avert natural
 disaster in the United
 KingdomThese Yagyas are being
 performed from February 18th to February 28th, and extend
 over February 27th, the very auspicious Vedic day of
 Mahashivaratri. The National Yagyas are
 being sponsored by the Governors, Sidhas and Meditators of
 the United Kingdom, and we are acknowledged as such in the
 Yagya.
During the time of these National
 Yagyas, anyone who wishes to do so is welcome to follow the
 Maharishi Yagya guidelines.  Please contact your local
 centre for
 these. We have been able to organise these
 and previous Yagyas thanks to the kind donations of our very
 generous donors. The next set of National Maharishi Yagyas
 will be performed from March 5th to March
 15th, and if anyone would like to make a
 donation towards a Yagya during this time period, then the
 details of how to do so are shown
 below.  National Maharishi Yagyas are a
 great blessing for everyone and for the country as a whole.
  We would like to warmly thank everyone who has been
 contributing to the Maharishi Vedic Pandit project and to
 the National Maharishi Yagyas recently and over the longer
 term. Your donations are so appreciated, and our collective
 contribution enables us all to participate in these
 beautiful Yagyas, and to enjoy their benefits.
   Again, a very big thank you to
 everyone who is
 donating. With all best wishes for a wonderful
 year in Maharishi's 7th Year of Invincibility - Global
 Raam Raj. Jai Guru Dev

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...

Xeno's questions are once again disingenuous. I think classical theism is what 
Feser says in his posts. That's, you know, why I posted them here, along with 
additional links. Nor have I ever seen any other classical theist describe it 
differently. In any case, of course it isn't a matter of what I "think" 
classical theism is. It's very well established what it is. 

 Xeno's question about why his statement is wrong is also disingenuous if he's 
been reading my posts, and if he read Feser's post.
 

 Xeno might also want to check with his mentor Barry concerning Wikipedia's 
reliability.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 I arrived back late last night and read no posts except that one I responded 
to. I derived my material principally from the Wikipedia article, but what I 
asked you was what *you* thought classical theism was that resulted in your 
rejection what I presumed it was, not what someone else thought it was. So you 
still have not supplied a response. 

 All I am asking is what you think is wrong with the phrase which you specified 
negatively below, what is the correction you would supply?:
 

 "An/the absolutely metaphysically ultimate being" is not how classical theism 
characterizes God. ---Judy Stein

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention

Let me say it another way, since Xeno seems to have had a little trouble 
reading it the first time: 

 Nobody is stalking Barry. That's a misuse of the term. But if you want to 
misuse it to mean "comment negatively," as he does, then you have to say he 
"stalks" more than anybody else here.
 

 Plus which, as Xeno knows perfectly well, word-counting via Yahoo Advanced 
Search doesn't tell you how many times a word was used in original posts, so it 
can't be used the way he's pretending to use (th way Barry does) it to "prove" 
something. And of course a selection of five words doesn't tell you anything 
about negativity quotient either.
 

 Xeno is definitely picking up the tricks of the "stalking" trade from Barry. 
Frauds of a feather flock together.
 

 So much for the enlightened guru/grandfather figure/spiritual teacher image 
he's been trying to project. As I told him not long ago, he needs to tend to 
his own buttons before he sets himself up to advise anyone else on the 
importance of not letting them be pushed.
 

 < < Maybe not.
 

 Of course, nobody is "stalking" Barry. That's a misuse of the term. But if you 
want to misuse it to mean "comment negatively," as he does, then you have to 
say he "stalks" more than anybody else here. 

 Judy has made 22,444 posts
 Barry has made 21,209 posts
 

 Percentage frequency of certain words in these posts:
 

 
 Judy Barry no 84.77% 82.14% wrong 13.24% 11.16% liar 2.81% 1.77% hypocrite 
0.83% 0.40% deceptive 0.67% 0.13% >>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger that has already come?

THey love this kind of crap cause they can ask for heaps more money - and if 
their jyotish worked, why didn't they predict the rains and do a jyotish/yagya 
rain dance in reverse to "avert the danger, before it arises!" I wish I could 
find a copy of that old song - it was my favorite to mock even in my old TM 
junkie days.

On Tue, 2/18/14, salyavin808  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger that has already come?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, February 18, 2014, 8:18 PM

   Got this in the
 post today. Bless them, but I can't help thinking
 it's a missed opportunity. The purpose of jyotish and
 yagya is to predict
 and avert dangers, not get a yagya together after it's
 stopped raining and half the country is underwater.
 Doh! 
 Still, a bit of affluence will be
 most welcome I'm sure...
 National Maharishi Yagyas
 sponsored by the United Kingdom
 from February 18th to February 28th 2014 Special Yagya to Avert
 Natural Disaster 
  National Maharishi Yagyas
 for the United Kingdom.Dear
 Governors, Sidhas, and
 Meditators,  We are very happy to announce that
 as from February 18th the Maharishi Vedic Pandits are
 performing two National Maharishi Yagyas for the United
 Kingdom.  Because
 of the severe flooding and very high winds over the past
 weeks which have caused such devastation, we have organised
 a National Yagya to avert natural disaster. We would like to
 organise another of these Yagyas from March 5th to 15th, and
 everyone is warmly invited to donate towards
 this.   The full purposes of these
 National Yagyas are:to promote affluence
 for the United Kingdom.to help avert natural
 disaster in the United
 KingdomThese Yagyas are being
 performed from February 18th to February 28th, and extend
 over February 27th, the very auspicious Vedic day of
 Mahashivaratri. The National Yagyas are
 being sponsored by the Governors, Sidhas and Meditators of
 the United Kingdom, and we are acknowledged as such in the
 Yagya.        
        During the time of these National
 Yagyas, anyone who wishes to do so is welcome to follow the
 Maharishi Yagya guidelines.  Please contact your local
 centre for
 these. We have been able to organise these
 and previous Yagyas thanks to the kind donations of our very
 generous donors. The next set of National Maharishi Yagyas
 will be performed from March 5th to March
 15th, and if anyone would like to make a
 donation towards a Yagya during this time period, then the
 details of how to do so are shown
 below.  National Maharishi Yagyas are a
 great blessing for everyone and for the country as a whole.
  We would like to warmly thank everyone who has been
 contributing to the Maharishi Vedic Pandit project and to
 the National Maharishi Yagyas recently and over the longer
 term. Your donations are so appreciated, and our collective
 contribution enables us all to participate in these
 beautiful Yagyas, and to enjoy their benefits.
   Again, a very big thank you to
 everyone who is
 donating. With all best wishes for a wonderful
 year in Maharishi's 7th Year of Invincibility - Global
 Raam Raj. Jai Guru Dev

[FairfieldLife] RE: Avert the danger that has already come?

I think it would be more useful to do a yagya that would ameliorate the damage 
that have already occurred, and that would show evidence of efficacy, rather 
than averting a danger that has not been predicted and therefore can never be 
shown that it was averted. It just seems that dangers follow yagyas no matter 
what they are for, so why bother with them? Sucker bait.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Got this in the post today. Bless them, but I can't help thinking it's a 
missed opportunity. The purpose of jyotish and yagya is to predict and avert 
dangers, not get a yagya together after it's stopped raining and half the 
country is underwater. Doh!  

 Still, a bit of affluence will be most welcome I'm sure...
 
 National Maharishi Yagyas sponsored by the United Kingdom
from February 18th to February 28th 2014
  
 Special Yagya to Avert Natural Disaster
  
 
 
 National Maharishi Yagyas for the United Kingdom.
 Dear Governors, Sidhas, and Meditators, 
  
 We are very happy to announce that as from February 18th the Maharishi Vedic 
Pandits are performing two National Maharishi Yagyas for the United Kingdom. 
  
 Because of the severe flooding and very high winds over the past weeks which 
have caused such devastation, we have organised a National Yagya to avert 
natural disaster. We would like to organise another of these Yagyas from March 
5th to 15th, and everyone is warmly invited to donate towards this. 
  
  The full purposes of these National Yagyas are:
 to promote affluence for the United Kingdom. to help avert natural disaster in 
the United Kingdom These Yagyas are being performed from February 18th to 
February 28th, and extend over February 27th, the very auspicious Vedic day of 
Mahashivaratri.
  
 The National Yagyas are being sponsored by the Governors, Sidhas and 
Meditators of the United Kingdom, and we are acknowledged as such in the Yagya. 
 
   
 During the time of these National Yagyas, anyone who wishes to do so is 
welcome to follow the Maharishi Yagya guidelines.  Please contact your local 
centre for these.


  
 We have been able to organise these and previous Yagyas thanks to the kind 
donations of our very generous donors. The next set of National Maharishi 
Yagyas will be performed from March 5th to March 15th, and if anyone would like 
to make a donation towards a Yagya during this time period, then the details of 
how to do so are shown below. 
  
 National Maharishi Yagyas are a great blessing for everyone and for the 
country as a whole.  We would like to warmly thank everyone who has been 
contributing to the Maharishi Vedic Pandit project and to the National 
Maharishi Yagyas recently and over the longer term. Your donations are so 
appreciated, and our collective contribution enables us all to participate in 
these beautiful Yagyas, and to enjoy their benefits.  
  
 Again, a very big thank you to everyone who is donating.
  
 With all best wishes for a wonderful year in Maharishi's 7th Year of 
Invincibility - Global Raam Raj.
  
 Jai Guru Dev

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...

I arrived back late last night and read no posts except that one I responded 
to. I derived my material principally from the Wikipedia article, but what I 
asked you was what *you* thought classical theism was that resulted in your 
rejection what I presumed it was, not what someone else thought it was. So you 
still have not supplied a response. 

 All I am asking is what you think is wrong with the phrase which you specified 
negatively below, what is the correction you would supply?:
 

 "An/the absolutely metaphysically ultimate being" is not how classical theism 
characterizes God. ---Judy Stein

[FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the Day,

2014-02-18 Thread dhamiltony2k5

“Today, with the discovery that within every brain physiology are tremendous 
powers, the world today is different than the world of yesterday. All those 
powers that are administering the individual life are those powers which 
together are administering the whole universe. That higher power can be 
enlivened in the brains of people in every nation, and this will free the life 
of every country from suffering, problems, and failures. Just free it and free 
it and free it. For this, we have Maharishi Open University. It will open the 
treasures of bliss, happiness, and energy that are there inside of everyone.” 
-Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, July 9, 1998, Guru Purnima 
 Nablusoss1008 writes:
 "“The important thing is this: to be able, at any moment, to sacrifice what we 
are for what we could become” - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi -
 

 "we"  as individuals and we the peoples, humanity. When humanity collectively 
(more or less)  are willing to sacrifice our past for what we can become, then 
we stand at an important threshold; The Rising Sun of The Age of Enlightenment. 
This is what Masters are urging and inspiring us to become; a true humanity, 
brothers. All the Saints, the messengers of Godhead throughout recorded history 
gave voice to the same thing. Buddha, Maharishi, Jesus, Mohammad - same thing, 
same message.

[FairfieldLife] Avert the danger that has already come?

Got this in the post today. Bless them, but I can't help thinking it's a missed 
opportunity. The purpose of jyotish and yagya is to predict and avert dangers, 
not get a yagya together after it's stopped raining and half the country is 
underwater. Doh!  

 Still, a bit of affluence will be most welcome I'm sure...
 
 National Maharishi Yagyas sponsored by the United Kingdom
from February 18th to February 28th 2014
  
 Special Yagya to Avert Natural Disaster
  
 
 
 National Maharishi Yagyas for the United Kingdom.
 Dear Governors, Sidhas, and Meditators, 
  
 We are very happy to announce that as from February 18th the Maharishi Vedic 
Pandits are performing two National Maharishi Yagyas for the United Kingdom. 
  
 Because of the severe flooding and very high winds over the past weeks which 
have caused such devastation, we have organised a National Yagya to avert 
natural disaster. We would like to organise another of these Yagyas from March 
5th to 15th, and everyone is warmly invited to donate towards this. 
  
  The full purposes of these National Yagyas are:
 to promote affluence for the United Kingdom. to help avert natural disaster in 
the United Kingdom These Yagyas are being performed from February 18th to 
February 28th, and extend over February 27th, the very auspicious Vedic day of 
Mahashivaratri.
  
 The National Yagyas are being sponsored by the Governors, Sidhas and 
Meditators of the United Kingdom, and we are acknowledged as such in the Yagya. 
 
   
 During the time of these National Yagyas, anyone who wishes to do so is 
welcome to follow the Maharishi Yagya guidelines.  Please contact your local 
centre for these.


  
 We have been able to organise these and previous Yagyas thanks to the kind 
donations of our very generous donors. The next set of National Maharishi 
Yagyas will be performed from March 5th to March 15th, and if anyone would like 
to make a donation towards a Yagya during this time period, then the details of 
how to do so are shown below. 
  
 National Maharishi Yagyas are a great blessing for everyone and for the 
country as a whole.  We would like to warmly thank everyone who has been 
contributing to the Maharishi Vedic Pandit project and to the National 
Maharishi Yagyas recently and over the longer term. Your donations are so 
appreciated, and our collective contribution enables us all to participate in 
these beautiful Yagyas, and to enjoy their benefits.  
  
 Again, a very big thank you to everyone who is donating.
  
 With all best wishes for a wonderful year in Maharishi's 7th Year of 
Invincibility - Global Raam Raj.
  
 Jai Guru Dev

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention

Maybe not.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
 Of course, nobody is "stalking" Barry. That's a misuse of the term. But if you 
want to misuse it to mean "comment negatively," as he does, then you have to 
say he "stalks" more than anybody else here. 
 

 Judy has made 22,444 posts
 Barry has made 21,209 posts
 

 Percentage frequency of certain words in these posts:
 

 
 Judy Barry no 84.77% 82.14% wrong 13.24% 11.16% liar 2.81% 1.77% hypocrite 
0.83% 0.40% deceptive 0.67% 0.13%

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why Can't Hinduism Rid Itself of Fake Gurus?

Sometimes the article I might post here is just an article and has nothing to 
do with my former TM experience, Willy-Tex. I thought since many here on FFL 
have had a passing interest in that which the Hindu hath wrought, they might 
find it of interest.

On Tue, 2/18/14, Richard J. Williams  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Why Can't Hinduism Rid Itself of Fake Gurus?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, February 18, 2014, 7:44 PM

   On 2/18/2014 10:40 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:

 > ...a fundamental misunderstanding of the mind of its
 adherents: They 

 > are not gullible fools. They take a calculated risk
 that they 

 > intuitively feel is worth the spiritual payoff. Going
 down the wrong 

 > mystical path is an unavoidable hazard of their
 religion that they 

 > knowingly accept. They are no more blind or blinkered
 than lovers 

 > willing to repeatedly risk heartbreak to find a soul
 mate.

  >

 So, you took a calculated risk by going to work for a
 religious school 

 in order to learn how to meditate for world peace, but you
 didn't get 

 the payoff. Maybe you went down the wrong mystical path
 because you were 

 blind and blinkered thinking you could find heaven on earth.
 Thank God, 

 now you've come to your senses and you're back down
 to earth! You have 

 the support of TM-Free and your own computer-repair business
 working out 

 of your garage. Now that's better!

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...


Sounds like enlightenment is coming to FFL!
Duck!




On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:54 PM, salyavin808  
wrote:
 
  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Salyavin, I actually find these questions quite profound, worth mulling over, 
etc. I also like your question about what is my karma bouncing off of but won't 
address that here and now.

A good mull does one good I think. 

Anyway, when I think about my belief in a supreme existence, I realize what it 
does for me is create a possibility of a unity underlying all the separate 
existences I know via my senses. That FEELS right to me even though I can't 
prove it.


Sounds like enlightenment is coming to FFL!



On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:45 AM, salyavin808  
wrote:

 
So basically what you are saying is that the early gods that man invented 
turned out to be too easily disposed of intellectually, so everyone is going 
out of their minds to make him as oblique and impenetrable as possible yet 
still keep him existing in some way. I'm a lot more interested in why the god 
meme stays relevant. What does it do for you? Or perhaps, what does the 
universe lack without whatever powers you are giving this supreme being?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some Americans Believe the Sun Revolves around the Earth

 "The so-called paradox of freedom is the argument that 
freedom in the sense of absence of any constraining control 
must lead to very great restraint, since it makes the bully 
free to enslave the meek. The idea is, in a slightly 
different form, and with very different tendency, clearly 
expressed in Plato.

Less well known is the paradox of tolerance: Unlimited 
tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we 
extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, 
if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against 
the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be 
destroyed, and tolerance with them. 

In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we 
should always suppress the utterance of intolerant 
philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational 
argument and keep them in check by public opinion, 
suppression would certainly be unwise. But we should claim 
the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for 
it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us 
on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing 
all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to 
rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them 
to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols.

We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the 
right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that 
any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the 
law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and 
persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should 
consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the 
revival of the slave trade, as criminal. 

We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for 
no other reason than only freedom can make security more 
secure.

.. the attempt to make heaven on earth invariably produces 
hell. It leads to intolerance. It leads to religious wars, 
and to the saving of souls through the inquisition. And it 
is, I believe, based on a complete misunderstanding of our 
moral duties. It is our duty to help those who need help; 
but it cannot be our duty to make others happy, since this 
does not depend on us, and since it would only too often 
mean intruding on the privacy of those towards whom we have 
such amiable intentions. 

The open society is one in which men have learned to be to 
some extent critical of taboos, and to base decisions on the 
authority of their own intelligence."

~ Karl Popper

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Karl_Popper 
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Karl_Popper

> --- John  wrote:
> 
 > Salyavin, > 

 > Here in the US, the people are free to believe in any religion or ideas they 
 > want just as long as they don't harm others in the process.  The founding 
 > fathers of this country were wise in including this freedom as part of the 
 > Constitution.  After seeing the religious persecutions in Europe at the 
 > time, they wisely created a government that was separate from religion or 
 > ideologies.
 > 

 > Their ideas are still applicable today.  We see the destruction that happens 
 > when the Islamists in the Arab countries attempt to impose their wills on 
 > those who believe otherwise.  In the long run, there may be a world war 
 > caused by religious feuds in the Middle East that is equivalent to the 
 > biblical Armageddon.  And, there may be some Americans who would secretly or 
 > tacitly allow this to happen in the hope of realizing the Rapture.
 > 

 > But I do believe that the creationists here in the US or elsewhere are 
 > wrong.  They fail to understand that the Bible is not a scientific treatise 
 > that answers the questions relating to the Big Bang and the evolution of 
 > life here on earth or other planets in the universe.  The Bible should be 
 > understood as a testament of faith among the Hebrews and the subsequent 
 > Christian religion and denominations.
 >

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Salyavin, I actually find these questions quite profound, worth mulling over, 
etc. I also like your question about what is my karma bouncing off of but won't 
address that here and now.
 

 A good mull does one good I think. 
 

 Anyway, when I think about my belief in a supreme existence, I realize what it 
does for me is create a possibility of a unity underlying all the separate 
existences I know via my senses. That FEELS right to me even though I can't 
prove it.

 

 Sounds like enlightenment is coming to FFL!
 
 
 On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:45 AM, salyavin808  
wrote:
 
   So basically what you are saying is that the early gods that man invented 
turned out to be too easily disposed of intellectually, so everyone is going 
out of their minds to make him as oblique and impenetrable as possible yet 
still keep him existing in some way. I'm a lot more interested in why the god 
meme stays relevant. What does it do for you? Or perhaps, what does the 
universe lack without whatever powers you are giving this supreme being?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention



 
https://lh3.ggpht.com/-2OESjjhkhlQ/TrCE_-pDqBI/AWg/Zc4-2_ZBAUI/s1600/facebook.jpg
 
https://lh3.ggpht.com/-2OESjjhkhlQ/TrCE_-pDqBI/AWg/Zc4-2_ZBAUI/s1600/facebook.jpg


 On 2/18/2014 12:23 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:

 Of course, nobody is "stalking" Barry. That's a misuse of the term. But if you 
want to misuse it to mean "comment negatively," as he does, then you have to 
say he "stalks" more than anybody else here. >
> --- WillyTex  wrote:
> 
 > By "stalking", Barry probably means "monitoring" all his messages posted to 
 > FFL 24 x 7 from a home office by someone who is obsessed with correcting and 
 > commenting on his every word and every sentence. I'm convinced that someone, 
 > maybe more than one person, is monitoring all my posts to FFL. I came over 
 > here to Yahoo Groups from Google Groups way before Barry or Judy - why would 
 > they be monitoring all my posts more than anybody else here? Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Internet TV review: House Of Cards

2014-02-18 Thread Bhairitu

You should  have had black bars at the top and bottom since it is shot 
and presented in 2:1 aspect ratio.  I didn't realize this with season 1 
because I watched it on my old HD RPTV which has overscan and cropped 
most if not all of the black bars.  The only way to fix that is to have 
the tubes shimmed which is something I didn't want to do myself though 
the tech who resoldered the power supply was willing to do for a fee. 
The new LED set came with overscan on but I turned it off to get the 
full aspect ratios.  So when I watched episode 1 of season 2 last night 
with no network problems there were the black bars at top and bottom.


FYI, "Hannibal" returns a week from Friday:
http://youtu.be/Y1LzcS7Db68


On 02/17/2014 09:24 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
I had it in 1080p full HD form before Netflix ever released it. 
Pirate. My versions were better quality than the streaming Netflix 
versions, which is why my friends came over to my place to binge-watch 
it. :-)



**

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why Can't Hinduism Rid Itself of Fake Gurus?

On 2/18/2014 10:40 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> ...a fundamental misunderstanding of the mind of its adherents: They 
> are not gullible fools. They take a calculated risk that they 
> intuitively feel is worth the spiritual payoff. Going down the wrong 
> mystical path is an unavoidable hazard of their religion that they 
> knowingly accept. They are no more blind or blinkered than lovers 
> willing to repeatedly risk heartbreak to find a soul mate.
 >
So, you took a calculated risk by going to work for a religious school 
in order to learn how to meditate for world peace, but you didn't get 
the payoff. Maybe you went down the wrong mystical path because you were 
blind and blinkered thinking you could find heaven on earth. Thank God, 
now you've come to your senses and you're back down to earth! You have 
the support of TM-Free and your own computer-repair business working out 
of your garage. Now that's better!

[FairfieldLife] RE: Some Americans Believe the Sun Revolves around the Earth

We have that freedom here John, I agree that everyone should be free to 
interpret the world as they please. Where we might disagree is whether lying to 
children harms them or not. I say an education that involves things known not 
to be true it leaves children intellectually badly equipped. It also means time 
that could be spent teaching them something useful is wasted. 

 Keep the creationism, geocentrism and anything else that is plainly wrong for 
kids to decide to believe when they are old enough to evaluate evidence 
properly. 
 

 World war starting in the middle east? Bound to happen sooner or later.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Salyavin, 

 Here in the US, the people are free to believe in any religion or ideas they 
want just as long as they don't harm others in the process.  The founding 
fathers of this country were wise in including this freedom as part of the 
Constitution.  After seeing the religious persecutions in Europe at the time, 
they wisely created a government that was separate from religion or ideologies.
 

 Their ideas are still applicable today.  We see the destruction that happens 
when the Islamists in the Arab countries attempt to impose their wills on those 
who believe otherwise.  In the long run, there may be a world war caused by 
religious feuds in the Middle East that is equivalent to the biblical 
Armageddon.  And, there may be some Americans who would secretly or tacitly 
allow this to happen in the hope of realizing the Rapture.
 

 But I do believe that the creationists here in the US or elsewhere are wrong.  
They fail to understand that the Bible is not a scientific treatise that 
answers the questions relating to the Big Bang and the evolution of life here 
on earth or other planets in the universe.  The Bible should be understood as a 
testament of faith among the Hebrews and the subsequent Christian religion and 
denominations.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: An amazing rock

Doc's Rock rocks (-:





On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:33 PM, "jr_...@yahoo.com"  
wrote:
 
  
Doc,

It's a rock and has an awareness of a rock.

[FairfieldLife] RE: An amazing rock

Doc, 

 It's a rock and has an awareness of a rock.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Some Americans Believe the Sun Revolves around the Earth

Doc, 

 Your daughter-in-law must think you're misguided and must be saved.  :)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention



 

http://media.theweek.com/img/dir_0069/34631_cartoon_main/facebook-stalker.jpg 
http://media.theweek.com/img/dir_0069/34631_cartoon_main/facebook-stalker.jpg

> --- doctordumbass  wrote:
> 
 > Mom and apple pie. 
 > > --- turquoiseb  wrote:
 > > 
> > Stalkers of a feather flock together. 
 


> --- awoelflebater  wrote:

 > In your dreams, Bayyy. Always trying to make yourself feel important (or 
 > is that impotent) in some way. You're a joke.

---  wrote:

 I think he enjoys making false accusations, and probably 
enjoys being stalked as well.

I wonder how many people he has accused of stalking?

I think narcissists like Uncle Tantra love attention, which 
is apparent from his posts.
 
   > > > > --- emptybill  wrote:
 > > > >
 > > > > My oh-so-great buddy, pycho-Ravi, has sent another unsolicited message 
 > > > > to my wife's facebook page ...  "I miss you". Nice for her to know 
 > > > > that this internet troll is stalking her. 

 > > > 
 > > > --- awoelflebater  wrote:
> > > 

 > > > This is stalking? It's Facebook,  Empty. If posting something to 
 > > > someone's wall (or was it a private message?)  is "stalking" then 
 > > > Facebook is one big stalk. On the other hand, you didn't explain this 
 > > > clearly nor the context in which it happened.  Barry claimed I was 
 > > > stalking him on FB when I wrote a comment on someone else's wall in 
 > > > response to his comment. Hardly.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention


On 2/18/2014 8:53 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
pycho-Ravi, has sent another unsolicited message to my wife's facebook 
page

>
My wife Rita, who works at Whole Foods in the vitamin section, said she 
got a call on the company phone during business hours from someone 
calling himself "Bob" wanting to know what kind of shampoo I use n my 
hair. For the record, I use Dr. Bronner's, if anyone else is interested. 
Go figure.


http://www.drbronner.com/

[FairfieldLife] RE: Some Americans Believe the Sun Revolves around the Earth

Salyavin, 

 Here in the US, the people are free to believe in any religion or ideas they 
want just as long as they don't harm others in the process.  The founding 
fathers of this country were wise in including this freedom as part of the 
Constitution.  After seeing the religious persecutions in Europe at the time, 
they wisely created a government that was separate from religion or ideologies.
 

 Their ideas are still applicable today.  We see the destruction that happens 
when the Islamists in the Arab countries attempt to impose their wills on those 
who believe otherwise.  In the long run, there may be a world war caused by 
religious feuds in the Middle East that is equivalent to the biblical 
Armageddon.  And, there may be some Americans who would secretly or tacitly 
allow this to happen in the hope of realizing the Rapture.
 

 But I do believe that the creationists here in the US or elsewhere are wrong.  
They fail to understand that the Bible is not a scientific treatise that 
answers the questions relating to the Big Bang and the evolution of life here 
on earth or other planets in the universe.  The Bible should be understood as a 
testament of faith among the Hebrews and the subsequent Christian religion and 
denominations.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention


On 2/18/2014 12:23 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Of course, nobody is "stalking" Barry. That's a misuse of the term. 
But if you want to misuse it to mean "comment negatively," as he does, 
then you have to say he "stalks" more than anybody else here.

>
By "stalking", Barry probably means "monitoring" all his messages posted 
to FFL 24 x 7 from a home office by someone who is obsessed with 
correcting and commenting on his every word and every sentence. I'm 
convinced that someone, maybe more than one person, is monitoring all my 
posts to FFL. I came over here to Yahoo Groups from Google Groups way 
before Barry or Judy - why would they be monitoring all my posts more 
than anybody else here? Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs20/i/2007/292/8/0/devID_version_1_by_bishie_stalker_club.jpg

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs20/i/2007/292/8/0/devID_version_1_by_bishie_stalker_club.jpg

--- authfriend  wrote:

 Of course, nobody is "stalking" Barry. That's a misuse of the term. But if you 
want to misuse it to mean "comment negatively," as he does, then you have to 
say he "stalks" more than anybody else here. 

 > > Stalkers of a feather flock together.

 > In your dreams, Bayyy. Always trying to make yourself feel important (or 
 > is that impotent) in some way. You're a joke.

I think he enjoys making false accusations, and probably 
 enjoys being stalked as well.

I wonder how many people he has accused of stalking?

I think narcissists like Uncle Tantra love attention, which 
is apparent from his posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] An amazing rock

2014-02-18 Thread nablusoss1008

It certainly has personality and sensual lips :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...

Salyavin, I actually find these questions quite profound, worth mulling over, 
etc. I also like your question about what is my karma bouncing off of but won't 
address that here and now.

Anyway, when I think about my belief in a supreme existence, I realize what it 
does for me is create a possibility of a unity underlying all the separate 
existences I know via my senses. That FEELS right to me even though I can't 
prove it.




On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:45 AM, salyavin808  
wrote:
 
  
So basically what you are saying is that the early gods that man invented 
turned out to be too easily disposed of intellectually, so everyone is going 
out of their minds to make him as oblique and impenetrable as possible yet 
still keep him existing in some way. I'm a lot more interested in why the god 
meme stays relevant. What does it do for you? Or perhaps, what does the 
universe lack without whatever powers you are giving this supreme being?

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Well, I think once you open the door to the possibility that consciousness may 
continue after physical death you open the door to the possibility that there 
is an agency at work behind the scenes organizing this activity.  
 And then there's there are the many anomalies such as twins separated at 
birth, who develop similar skills, or the hundreds of examples of people 
recalling things that they have no business recalling.  And when you bring up 
these examples to atheists, you sometimes hear them play a very Godlike card 
such as, "There's so much we don't know about genetics", or "There's so much we 
don't know about the brain".  Sounds very much like, "God works in mysteries 
ways".

 

 For the record, I am pretty clueless about God, but I do believe in a higher 
power at work here.
 

 I do too. And I find it so strange when people say I want "proof" because it 
is everywhere. There is nothing but proof from the oatmeal you cook for 
breakfast to the airplane that flies. It is just so strange that everyone 
doesn't see that. It is like being in a garden and the person next to you asks 
where the flowers are.
 Ah, now I see where you are coming from

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'thot'

Man post some more of that - playing that really amped up the bliss I am 
currently perceiving (no joke, it did!)

On Tue, 2/18/14, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com  
wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'thot'
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, February 18, 2014, 6:10 PM

   My latest - surfing the line between music and
 thinking. Two minutes:
 https://app.box.com/s/1umn41y4wd8vmgif2w4u
 copyright Temple Dog 2014

Re: [FairfieldLife] An amazing rock

I agree, Doc, and would add: this rock is a Being! Love the view too. Thanks 
for posting such an awesome photo.

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:17 PM, "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
 wrote:

>From my adventures a couple of days ago - this rock has a lot of awareness 
>(and I am not referring to myself!):
https://app.box.com/s/32pdpokzgr5h0f8fs0b5

Re: [FairfieldLife] An amazing rock

That's pretty cool - where is it? Is it on public land?

On Tue, 2/18/14, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com  
wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] An amazing rock
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, February 18, 2014, 6:17 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   From my adventures a couple of days ago - this rock
 has a lot of awareness (and I am not referring to myself!):
 https://app.box.com/s/32pdpokzgr5h0f8fs0b5

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention

Of course, nobody is "stalking" Barry. That's a misuse of the term. But if you 
want to misuse it to mean "comment negatively," as he does, then you have to 
say he "stalks" more than anybody else here. 

 > > Stalkers of a feather flock together.
 

 > In your dreams, Bayyy. Always trying to make yourself feel important (or 
 > is that impotent) in some way. You're a joke.
 

 I think he enjoys making false accusations, and probably 
 enjoys being stalked as well.

I wonder how many people he has accused of stalking?

I think narcissists like Uncle Tantra love attention, which 
is apparent from his posts.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention

Mom and apple pie.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 > > --- turquoiseb  wrote:
 > > 
> > Stalkers of a feather flock together. 
 
 

> --- awoelflebater  wrote:
 > 

 > In your dreams, Bayyy. Always trying to make yourself feel important (or 
 > is that impotent) in some way. You're a joke.

 I think he enjoys making false accusations, and probably 
enjoys being stalked as well.

I wonder how many people he has accused of stalking?

I think narcissists like Uncle Tantra love attention, which 
is apparent from his posts.
 
   > > > > --- emptybill  wrote:
 > > > >
 > > > > My oh-so-great buddy, pycho-Ravi, has sent another unsolicited message 
 > > > > to my wife's facebook page ...  "I miss you". Nice for her to know 
 > > > > that this internet troll is stalking her. 

 > > > 
 > > > --- awoelflebater  wrote:
> > > 

 > > > This is stalking? It's Facebook,  Empty. If posting something to 
 > > > someone's wall (or was it a private message?)  is "stalking" then 
 > > > Facebook is one big stalk. On the other hand, you didn't explain this 
 > > > clearly nor the context in which it happened.  Barry claimed I was 
 > > > stalking him on FB when I wrote a comment on someone else's wall in 
 > > > response to his comment. Hardly.

[FairfieldLife] An amazing rock

From my adventures a couple of days ago - this rock has a lot of awareness (and 
I am not referring to myself!):
https://app.box.com/s/32pdpokzgr5h0f8fs0b5 
https://app.box.com/s/32pdpokzgr5h0f8fs0b5

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention


 > > --- turquoiseb  wrote:
 > > 
> > Stalkers of a feather flock together. 
 
> --- awoelflebater  wrote:
> 

 > In your dreams, Bayyy. Always trying to make yourself feel important (or 
 > is that impotent) in some way. You're a joke.

I think he enjoys making false accusations, and probably 
enjoys being stalked as well.

I wonder how many people he has accused of stalking?

I think narcissists like Uncle Tantra love attention, which 
is apparent from his posts.
 
   > > > > --- emptybill  wrote:
 > > > >
 > > > > My oh-so-great buddy, pycho-Ravi, has sent another unsolicited message 
 > > > > to my wife's facebook page ...  "I miss you". Nice for her to know 
 > > > > that this internet troll is stalking her. 

 > > > 
> > > --- awoelflebater  wrote:
> > > 

 > > > This is stalking? It's Facebook,  Empty. If posting something to 
 > > > someone's wall (or was it a private message?)  is "stalking" then 
 > > > Facebook is one big stalk. On the other hand, you didn't explain this 
 > > > clearly nor the context in which it happened.  Barry claimed I was 
 > > > stalking him on FB when I wrote a comment on someone else's wall in 
 > > > response to his comment. Hardly.

[FairfieldLife] 'thot'

My latest - surfing the line between music and thinking. Two minutes:
https://app.box.com/s/1umn41y4wd8vmgif2w4u 
https://app.box.com/s/1umn41y4wd8vmgif2w4u
copyright Temple Dog 2014

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Some Americans Believe the Sun Revolves around the Earth

On the other hand, I was appalled at a book my granddaughter brought over,
several years ago, when she was about six. Her mom is the perfect "born again"
(I tend to think of them as, "reheated", vs. "reborn") Xtian hypocrite.
It was a creationist coloring book, stating that the earth was just 6,000 years
old, and that man existed with the dinosaurs, etc. After I saw that bullshit,
the book somehow got lost, and ended up in the recycling bin.:-)

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

Dude! You can *believe* in both, religion and science! And many of those 40%
do! Equating anybody that is uninformed about the nature of the solar system
with those that follow religion is just down right bigoted. BTW, criminalizing
religion *is* a crime, check your first amendment. I know of no religion that
currently teaches that the sun revolves around the earth. If you want to find
blame, look at the education or lack of education young people are receiving
today. There seems to be a lot of focus on raising little Johnny's self esteem
and not hurting his *creative* thinking process by not telling him he's wrong
when he is. I'm sure there has to be other things to consider as well but
blaming people for being uninformed about the solar system on religion is just
as ignorant. Personally, I think people tend to give stupid answers to
pollsters just to have some fun or may have misunderstood the question or could
be total stoners.

On Monday, February 17, 2014 11:35 PM, salyavin808
wrote:

Dude, I admire your optimism but 40% of Americans believe in creationism.

I blame the education system,(and what the hell are parents doing?), thinking
the sun goes round the earth is fair enough as that is how it appears, but for
schools not to give you basic info about the planet we live on is a shocking
state of affairs. I swear I knew this stuff before I could walk, but I am a
born nerd so maybe that explains it...

Teaching creationism ought to be a crime though, children don't deserve to
have their heads actually filled with nonsense. I hear there is a museum
dedicated to creationism in America, with models of dinosaurs and people with
sciencey sounding explanations about floods etc Would love to go, but it
means giving money to creationists.

"If you can get people to believe ridiculous things, it's easier to get them
to do dangerous things"

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

That's what a survey showed. But I can't help thinking some of these people
intentionally answered the questionnaire incorrectly as a joke.

http://news.yahoo.com/quarter-americans-convinced-sun-revolves-around-earth-survey-062143342--abc-news-topstories.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...

Yes, yes, yes! Thanks Ann and Steve.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Well, I think once you open the door to the possibility that consciousness may 
continue after physical death you open the door to the possibility that there 
is an agency at work behind the scenes organizing this activity.  
 And then there's there are the many anomalies such as twins separated at 
birth, who develop similar skills, or the hundreds of examples of people 
recalling things that they have no business recalling.  And when you bring up 
these examples to atheists, you sometimes hear them play a very Godlike card 
such as, "There's so much we don't know about genetics", or "There's so much we 
don't know about the brain".  Sounds very much like, "God works in mysteries 
ways".

 

 For the record, I am pretty clueless about God, but I do believe in a higher 
power at work here.
 

 I do too. And I find it so strange when people say I want "proof" because it 
is everywhere. There is nothing but proof from the oatmeal you cook for 
breakfast to the airplane that flies. It is just so strange that everyone 
doesn't see that. It is like being in a garden and the person next to you asks 
where the flowers are.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Good questions, especially in an argument started by and perpetuated by 
someone who doesn't even have the balls to say what she believes. She's arguing 
*literally* just for the sake of arguing. Go figure. 

As for life after death, you didn't ask me but I don't see that this has 
anything to do with God or the belief or non-belief in one. I don't believe in 
a God, but I suspect (based on subjective experience of fairly dynamic waking 
state "past-life flashbacks) that consciousness may continue after physical 
death. But that has nothing whatsoever IMO to do with either the existence of a 
God or the existence of any kind of "morality" or "fairness" as you imply with 
your notions about karma. 

I think that "fairness" is a human-invented concept that does not exist in 
nature, and never has. It's a myth that people think up so that they won't be 
so frightened of the idea of chaos and indeterminancy. That's why they invent 
the myth of God too IMO, but one doesn't necessarily have anything to do with 
the other. 

Anyway, as for the Great Mystery that we call death, I pass along an 
interesting song that will probably not mean anything to anyone here who isn't 
a fan of the Canadian TV show "Lost Girl." This song (in its entirety) was used 
to close the last show of the season, in which one of everyone's favorite 
characters gets to explore the Great Mystery, and IMO it was brilliantly 
chosen, because all over Canada and North America fans were weeping to see her 
go. But as to WHERE she's going, that's still a Great Mystery, as much in 
fiction as in real life. No problemo...we'll all find out soon enough 
ourselves. 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2fCcggNkTs 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2fCcggNkTs


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Does it advance the discussion in anyway to ask what "you" believe, say in 
regards to what happens when you die, or when "anyone" dies?  Is it the atheist 
position that it's "lights out". Options - "expire worthless" 

 Now, I know one might say, "I have no evidence that, that's not the case", but 
I'd like to know what "you" believe.
 

 My analysis compels me to believe that there is an element of karma, and that 
karma carries over from one existence to the next, and the next.  To use a oft 
cited example, the person who is a mass murderer, just merges back into 
nothingness upon death?  No consequences?  So people get away with murder?  Or 
no kudos for a generous life?  No second chance for a life cut down after one 
or two years?
 

 Step away from the theory for a moment and tell us, if you care to, what you 
believe in this regard.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Internet TV review: House Of Cards


On 2/17/2014 8:06 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
Many of my friends are ex-pats and all are...uh...shall we 
say...critical of the US

>
Now that's funny - expats in Leiden, NE, that are still interested in 
U.S. politics, watching an American TV show, and eating Italian food 
called "New York" pizza. Some expats just feel better when they have 
someone to talk to I guess. Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] The coming joy of Aquarius

On 2/18/2014 4:59 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> they make it sound like its just ABOUT to happen, just round the bend 
> so the faithful will continue to fill the coffers. 
 >
Sometimes you just have to keep working in order to get the PC to boot 
up. If you fail, there will be NOTHING to fill your coffers. Just keep 
at and don't give up - if all else fails try booting from a disk to get 
into the BIOS.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...


On 2/18/2014 8:45 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
If I believe that there is life after death and there is none, and 
everything just goes black, there will be no "I" present to even be 
disappointed, so again I win. 

>
So, who does the winning?

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention

Share, 

 I would assume it's the full moon which brings about strange behavior in some 
people.  But those malefics in Libra are much more destructive than a nasty 
email.  The eruption of a volcano in Indonesia is much more representative of 
the malefic effects.
 

 We should keep a careful watch for bad news in countries where there are 
already ongoing wars and in those countries with unstable leadership, like 
North Korea.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Country Chuckles

2014-02-18 Thread Pundit Sir

"Don't find fault. Find a remedy." - Henry Ford


On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Pundit Sir  wrote:

> "The best place to find a helping hand is at the end of your own arm." -
> Swedish proverb
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Pundit Sir  wrote:
>
>> "The wise man has long ears and a short tongue." - Anonymous
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>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Pundit Sir wrote:
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>>> "Don't mess with old men, they didn't get old by being stupid." - Will
>>> Rogers
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>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Pundit Sir wrote:
>>>
 "Anyone can fail many times, but you aren't a failure until you begin
 to blame somebody else." - John Burroughs


 On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Pundit Sir wrote:

> "Doing nothing is hard to do - you never know when you're finished." -
> Leslie Nielsen
>
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> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Pundit Sir wrote:
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>> "We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse." - Will
>> Rogers
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>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Pundit Sir wrote:
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>>> "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - Will Rogers
>>>
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>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:27 AM,  wrote:
>>>





 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 That's it, Richard! I'm in love with Will Rogers. Is he still
 alive? (-:

 Long dead, Share:
 On August 15, 1935, Rogers was on a flight to Asia with the famous
 pilot Wiley Post when the craft developed engine troubles and crashed 
 near
 Point Barrow, Alaska . The
 crash killed both men. Rogers was only 55.



  On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:46 AM, Pundit Sir 
 wrote:

 "Timing has an awful lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance." -
 Will Rogers


 On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Share Long wrote:


 Richard, I love this guy! I bet he was enlightened (-:

 PS Maharishi said that at the deepest level of every atom, even
 every atom of our body, Purusha IS Prakriti. Go figure!




  On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:14 AM, Pundit Sir 
 wrote:

 "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need
 it." - Will Rogers


 On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Pundit Sir  wrote:

 "Generally speaking, you aren't learning much when your mouth is
 moving." - Will Rogers


 On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM,  wrote:


 So what was the "good catch" you said I made, Share? I don't
 believe you've responded to that question.

 << Keep 'em coming Richard and thank you... >>








  

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[FairfieldLife] Why Can't Hinduism Rid Itself of Fake Gurus?


Why Can't Hinduism Rid Itself of Fake Gurus?

Shikha Dalmia|Nov. 3, 2013 10:00 am

Today is Diwali, the biggest Hindu holiday, when believers celebrate the 
victory of good over evil. Usually, nothing dampens the Diwali spirit among 
observant Hindus, but this year there is a cloud hanging over some 30 million 
followers of Asaram Bapu, one of India’s most popular Hindu gurus. This 
self-styled godman, a septuagenarian who has amassed a $1 billion empire by 
preaching the evils of sexual desire, is accused of raping the minor daughter 
of an ardent devotee.

Asaram is under arrest and, regardless of the final verdict, is finished. But 
he’s not the first Hindu guru to go rogue, and he won’t be the last. That’s 
because to the extent that the loose and amorphous Hindu faith has avoided the 
tendency to militancy, internecine conflict and intolerance experienced by the 
more organized monotheistic faiths, it is at the price of opening itself to 
charlatans and cults.

A thousand gurus have always bloomed among Hindus.  In the 1980s, there was 
Osho Rajneesh, whose fleet of Rolls Royces’ and message of free love got him 
ejected from Oregon after a four-year stay. Among the new generation is the 
Hugging Amma, who has accumulated a net worth of about $250 million by jet 
setting around and giving 33 million hugs . Then there is Nirmal Baba, the TV 
phenom, who advises women to eat green—not red—chutney with samosas to get 
pregnant.

Bigger than all was Asaram. He combined a message that appealed to Hindus’ 
puritanical sensibilities—renunciation of sensual pleasures and material 
comforts—with impressive oratory to generate a worldwide following. His 
devotees include a former prime minister, leading politicos, rich businessmen 
and professionals. The donations he raked in allowed him to erect 1,700 
religious schools and 435 ashrams the world over.

The antics of gurus provide steady fodder for comedy in India. But Asaram’s 
behavior was raising eyebrows even before the rape accusations. His anti-sex 
crusade had morphed from nuttiness (advising couples to avoid having sex on 
religious holidays) to extremism (demanding that Valentine’s Day be replaced 
with Parent Worship Day).

Some details of Asaram’s rise-and-fall are unique, but the basic plotline of a 
guru corrupted by power is as familiar as a B-grade Bollywood movie. The puzzle 
is why can't Hinduism, the world's oldest religion, rid itself of fake gurus?

Hinduism, unlike Christianity, is not an organized faith with settled dogmas, 
an established church and a priestly hierarchy handing down truths worked out 
top-down as in Catholicism. Nor does it prescribe a strict and elaborate code 
of law as Judaism’s torah and Islam’s sharia.

Rather, it is an open-ended faith that has a core goal—experiencing the God 
within and releasing oneself from the cycle of birth and rebirth — but no set 
prescription for achieving it. It simply calls upon believers to overcome their 
inner demons and find their own unique path to enlightenment. But a good guru, 
who has overcome the vices of ordinary mortals and reached a higher state of 
consciousness, can greatly accelerate the journey.

The effect of such radical openness, on the one had, is that Hinduism has 
produced an “absolutely staggering” body of “scientific, faith-based and 
experience-based knowledge,” notes Josh Schrei, a religion writer. 
Diametrically opposed paths for achieving inner bliss have been explored: 
asceticism and materialism; intoxication and sobriety; sensuality and celibacy; 
solitude and communion.

On the other hand, Hinduism’s spiritual laissez faire means that it lacks the 
inner resources of other religions for quality control. Unlike monotheistic 
faiths, Hinduism is not preoccupied with policing superstition, idolatry, and 
heresy.  Literally anyone with a formula for enlightenment—and the charisma to 
sell it—can hang a shingle saying “guru inside” and wait for the flock to 
arrive. (This was perfectly captured by the recent documentary Kumare in which 
an Indian American born and raised in New York, moves to Arizona feigns a guru 
accent, invents some mumbo jumbo, and quickly acquires a devoted following.)

While there is no external hierarchy minding the gurus, there is an extreme 
internal hierarchy between the guru and the disciple. The guru’s superior 
consciousness is neither visible nor describable. The only way for the faithful 
to reach it is by surrendering completely. Questioning the guru is not a sin, 
but it is counterproductive. “Faith is to believe what you do not see,” 
explained Swami Chinmayananda, one of Hinduism’s greatest theologians. “The 
reward of faith is to see what you believed.”

Observers of Hinduism sometimes regard this total lack of oversight of gurus 
who can “simply make things up” to wield enormous powers over disciples as a 
defect. But that betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of the mind of its 
adherents: They are not gullible fools. Th

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention

John, me being me, I wonder if it happened around the time of the full Moon. 
Plus all those malefics in Libra! 





On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 10:32 AM, "jr_...@yahoo.com"  
wrote:
 
  
Emptybill,

His language of delivery is seemingly friendly, but there is a needle point to 
make his intention known. :)

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 
Stalkers of a feather flock together. 
 

 In your dreams, Bayyy. Always trying to make yourself feel important (or 
is that impotent) in some way. You're a joke.

 From: "awoelflebater@..." 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:09 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention
 
 
   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
 
 My oh-so-great buddy, pycho-Ravi, has sent another unsolicited message to my 
wife's facebook page ...  "I miss you". Nice for her to know that this internet 
troll is stalking her. 

 

 This is stalking? It's Facebook,  Empty. If posting something to someone's 
wall (or was it a private message?)  is "stalking" then Facebook is one big 
stalk. On the other hand, you didn't explain this clearly nor the context in 
which it happened.  Barry claimed I was stalking him on FB when I wrote a 
comment on someone else's wall in response to his comment. Hardly.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Ravi Yogi back at it - must need the attention

Emptybill, 

 His language of delivery is seemingly friendly, but there is a needle point to 
make his intention known. :)

[FairfieldLife] RE: Quote of the day...

So basically what you are saying is that the early gods that man invented 
turned out to be too easily disposed of intellectually, so everyone is going 
out of their minds to make him as oblique and impenetrable as possible yet 
still keep him existing in some way. I'm a lot more interested in why the god 
meme stays relevant. What does it do for you? Or perhaps, what does the 
universe lack without whatever powers you are giving this supreme being?

[FairfieldLife] RE: The Skeptic and the Scientist