Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What inaccurate predictions? Most people had questions for things that really stood out in the chart. Those predictions are easy to see. Also many people just wanted to know why their life went the way it did, not necessarily predictions. I also use a lot of intuition. I bet, intuition and randomness, can be mighty impressive, even to the person pulling the scam , erm I mean casting the runes. It's a point worth remembering about cold-reading, astrology or any sort of divination. The practitioner may not be aware of what they are doing. Intuition and general knowledge of what people want to hear are behind this, the fiddling around with ephemeris is irrelevant. We ought to know that by now. The chart helps key that and gives direction. If you tie yourself down to much to rules you start making bad predictions. Exactly, it aint nothing to do with planets or stars or anything astronomical. I'm glad we finally got there Bhairitu, it was wearing me out! Exactly what I said earlier. The chart does absolutely NOTHING but trigger the supposed astrologer's intuition or bullshittery. If they're actually intuitive, they'll get a few random hits on future events, if they're mainly bullshitters, they won't. But not a word of it will ever have anything to do with the positions of the planets.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
What is this, a Drama Queen Convention? One poster drops out for a while, and others feel the need to make up stories about it. Meanwhile, those of us who have known her longest are paying the same attention to her absence that we did to anything she posted -- none, whatsoever. If she were here I wouldn't be thinking about her, so why should I spend any time thinking about her when she isn't? The only relevant question about this short break, if that is what it is, is What Comes Next. If she returns, only to drop into the same patterns and habits within a few days, then the entire exercise will have been for naught. Taking a break, only to return as the exact same person with the exact same patterns, is in my book pretty much the ultimate waste of time and energy. From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. Somebody should followup in the hospitals near Judy's home to see about her condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. Worry not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
Barryread what you wrote below! When is the last time you took a break? Has there been one in the last 2.5 years? Never taking a break and relentlessly showcasing your completely predictable patterns and habits is far more arrogant a routine than those who choose to exit for awhile and shift focus. I am *not* usually focused on you - when posting or lurking or neither - but thought I'd take a quick spin around the outside of the track tonight. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : What is this, a Drama Queen Convention? One poster drops out for a while, and others feel the need to make up stories about it. Meanwhile, those of us who have known her longest are paying the same attention to her absence that we did to anything she posted -- none, whatsoever. If she were here I wouldn't be thinking about her, so why should I spend any time thinking about her when she isn't? The only relevant question about this short break, if that is what it is, is What Comes Next. If she returns, only to drop into the same patterns and habits within a few days, then the entire exercise will have been for naught. Taking a break, only to return as the exact same person with the exact same patterns, is in my book pretty much the ultimate waste of time and energy. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. Somebody should followup in the hospitals near Judy's home to see about her condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. Worry not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What inaccurate predictions? Most people had questions for things that really stood out in the chart. Those predictions are easy to see. Also many people just wanted to know why their life went the way it did, not necessarily predictions. I also use a lot of intuition. I bet, intuition and randomness, can be mighty impressive, even to the person pulling the scam , erm I mean casting the runes. It's a point worth remembering about cold-reading, astrology or any sort of divination. The practitioner may not be aware of what they are doing. Intuition and general knowledge of what people want to hear are behind this, the fiddling around with ephemeris is irrelevant. We ought to know that by now. The chart helps key that and gives direction. If you tie yourself down to much to rules you start making bad predictions. Exactly, it aint nothing to do with planets or stars or anything astronomical. I'm glad we finally got there Bhairitu, it was wearing me out! Exactly what I said earlier. Yes, I was going to let your previous post be the last word but I can't help myself, that hornets nest is just begging to be kicked ;-) The chart does absolutely NOTHING but trigger the supposed astrologer's intuition or bullshittery. If they're actually intuitive, they'll get a few random hits on future events, if they're mainly bullshitters, they won't. But not a word of it will ever have anything to do with the positions of the planets. Shame Bhairitu never took up my challenge of doing a chart and making some predictions years ago, would have been fun as he claims to have a 100% success rate. Don't suppose it would work now
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... wrote : Barryread what you wrote below! When is the last time you took a break? Has there been one in the last 2.5 years? Never taking a break and relentlessly showcasing your completely predictable patterns and habits is far more arrogant a routine than those who choose to exit for awhile and shift focus. I am *not* usually focused on you - when posting or lurking or neither - but thought I'd take a quick spin around the outside of the track tonight. Yep, it's a drama queen convention alright... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : What is this, a Drama Queen Convention? One poster drops out for a while, and others feel the need to make up stories about it. Meanwhile, those of us who have known her longest are paying the same attention to her absence that we did to anything she posted -- none, whatsoever. If she were here I wouldn't be thinking about her, so why should I spend any time thinking about her when she isn't? The only relevant question about this short break, if that is what it is, is What Comes Next. If she returns, only to drop into the same patterns and habits within a few days, then the entire exercise will have been for naught. Taking a break, only to return as the exact same person with the exact same patterns, is in my book pretty much the ultimate waste of time and energy. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. Somebody should followup in the hospitals near Judy's home to see about her condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. Worry not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Exactly, it aint nothing to do with planets or stars or anything astronomical. I'm glad we finally got there Bhairitu, it was wearing me out! Exactly what I said earlier. Yes, I was going to let your previous post be the last word but I can't help myself, that hornets nest is just begging to be kicked ;-) The chart does absolutely NOTHING but trigger the supposed astrologer's intuition or bullshittery. If they're actually intuitive, they'll get a few random hits on future events, if they're mainly bullshitters, they won't. But not a word of it will ever have anything to do with the positions of the planets. Shame Bhairitu never took up my challenge of doing a chart and making some predictions years ago, would have been fun as he claims to have a 100% success rate. Don't suppose it would work now Well, we have a test prediction now. JR hath proclaimed: Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. I suspect that this exercise in bullshittery will put an end to JR's credibility, but not his predictions. :-) salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Exactly, it aint nothing to do with planets or stars or anything astronomical. I'm glad we finally got there Bhairitu, it was wearing me out! Exactly what I said earlier. Yes, I was going to let your previous post be the last word but I can't help myself, that hornets nest is just begging to be kicked ;-) The chart does absolutely NOTHING but trigger the supposed astrologer's intuition or bullshittery. If they're actually intuitive, they'll get a few random hits on future events, if they're mainly bullshitters, they won't. But not a word of it will ever have anything to do with the positions of the planets. Shame Bhairitu never took up my challenge of doing a chart and making some predictions years ago, would have been fun as he claims to have a 100% success rate. Don't suppose it would work now Well, we have a test prediction now. JR has made his Jyotish prediction:
[FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT
In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics, it turns out that if you're an Israeli soldier and you get captured, your buddies have orders to bomb the area to make sure that you're dead. That's taking We don't negotiate with terrorists a bit far, doncha think? Hadar Goldin and the Hannibal Directive - The New Yorker Hadar Goldin and the Hannibal Directive - The New Yorker A once secret Israeli military order puts soldiers at risk to prevent their capture. View on www.newyorker.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Exactly, it aint nothing to do with planets or stars or anything astronomical. I'm glad we finally got there Bhairitu, it was wearing me out! Exactly what I said earlier. Yes, I was going to let your previous post be the last word but I can't help myself, that hornets nest is just begging to be kicked ;-) The chart does absolutely NOTHING but trigger the supposed astrologer's intuition or bullshittery. If they're actually intuitive, they'll get a few random hits on future events, if they're mainly bullshitters, they won't. But not a word of it will ever have anything to do with the positions of the planets. Shame Bhairitu never took up my challenge of doing a chart and making some predictions years ago, would have been fun as he claims to have a 100% success rate. Don't suppose it would work now Well, we have a test prediction now. JR hath proclaimed: Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. Yes, good for John for nailing some colours to the mast. But I hope he's wrong for Judy's sake and not just because it will give us a chance to have a good chortle at his expense. You can see the intuition at work though. Jude was one of the least likely people to pull up the stumps and retire to the pavillion without saying goodbye. And I doubt she got bored - just wasn't the type, not with all the provocations on here - so a curious mind will go to the next logical position and assume some sort of worst. I like the vagueness of John's prediction - car or house, knee or lungs. Probably some awareness of the most likely places of accidental death surfacing there. I'm more optimistic, she probably got my lottery karma and is now on a yatch in the mediterranean.or at her sisters wishing she had a 3G phone so she could call me an asshole about astrology or something I suspect that this exercise in bullshittery will put an end to JR's credibility, but not his predictions. :-) I do hope not... -- salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Exactly, it aint nothing to do with planets or stars or anything astronomical. I'm glad we finally got there Bhairitu, it was wearing me out! Exactly what I said earlier. Yes, I was going to let your previous post be the last word but I can't help myself, that hornets nest is just begging to be kicked ;-) The chart does absolutely NOTHING but trigger the supposed astrologer's intuition or bullshittery. If they're actually intuitive, they'll get a few random hits on future events, if they're mainly bullshitters, they won't. But not a word of it will ever have anything to do with the positions of the planets. Shame Bhairitu never took up my challenge of doing a chart and making some predictions years ago, would have been fun as he claims to have a 100% success rate. Don't suppose it would work now Well, we have a test prediction now. JR has made his Jyotish prediction:
[FairfieldLife] New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation
For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Science and the Meissner Effect of Consciousness as Field
Steve, you raise some very good points here. Which will likely not be addressed. I noticed that MJ did not answer any of the very reasonable, unprejudiced questions posted by soundofstillness a few weeks back. IMO, that spoke volumes about MJ. On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 10:08 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You have no idea what effect meditation and practicing the siddhis in a large group may have. You trot out the fact that Fairfield is not an ideal place, or that it has not produced the desired effect in high profile demonstrations as proof that it is useless program. And you suggest that any benefits which one associates with the practice* are due to the power of suggestion. *Again, as has been pointed out, you exempt any particular new age teachings, or techniques that you may be embracing at the moment, and you are undecided, (according to you own words) about channeling. And if you feel that you may be in a position to benefit financially, as in promoting treatments for PTSD for veterans, then certainly you exempt those treatments, even it they have a new agey twinge about them.. As for your usual Willytex reference, you might want to consider the advice he has sometimes offered you, which is to look more to the future, instead of spending so much time rehashing the past. He does not lie when he states that this TMO has made a remarkably deep impression on you. I mean, let's face it, you've often bragged about the profound experiences you've had (or had) both during and after meditation. The time spent watching you try to disown those experiences were some of the best posts we had in a while. I'd love to have a taste of that again. Oh, this wasting time is sometimes fun! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : The ME hasn't produced the result as it has predicted, so therefore it has not effect, no value. Now how in the world can you interpret it any other way? Are you really a Willy Tex clone? What do you do, sit in the John Hagelin presentations and say Oh the Marshy Effect hasn't worked like you said it would, but I am just going to go on ignoring the man behind the curtain and believe whatever you and Big Bopper Bevan tell me. Here, here is another check to support the pundit project which is part of the ME effect. I answered my own question - you are a Willy Tex clone in addition to being a schnook and a schmoe. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Science and the Meissner Effect of Consciousness as Field You have to understand that Michael lives in a black and white world. Darshan doesn't exist if not everyone responds to an so called enlightened individual in an exact same way. The ME hasn't produced the result as it has predicted, so therefore it has not effect, no value. I am not sure what makes a person view things in such a black and white way, and really wouldn't want to speculate about it. Oh, and then anyone who believes otherwise is some kind of cult apologist, or true believer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Prove darshan exists - its a made up feel good deal. There are people who met Marshy and didn't feel shit for energy from him. So how do you account for that? Just interjecting here - I haven't been around anyone with this thing you call darshan and I certainly don't believe in saints. Saints are renderings on canvas and in sculpture of mythical creatures who existed centuries ago and were memorialized in works of art. There are only human beings. Some are charismatic, some could charm the pants (literally) off someone and some can make you do all sorts of things like spend lots of money or time doing things they want you to do. However, there is power and there is energy and there is all sorts of stuff going on in the universe that is mysterious and scary and wonderful and invisible. The fact that some can feel the purported darshan from MMY and some don't is just like some people can be moved or can appreciate or feel the power in a great piece of music or art or film and some simply don't get it. It's in the perception of the perceiver, not necessarily inherent or not inherent in the object, person or event. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 7:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Science and the Meissner Effect of Consciousness as Field ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Yes quite evidently you and the other anti-meditation anti-science folks here are afraid of where the data is going. Your asserting no
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
It's all grist for the mill... On Thursday, August 7, 2014 1:36 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... wrote : Barryread what you wrote below! When is the last time you took a break? Has there been one in the last 2.5 years? Never taking a break and relentlessly showcasing your completely predictable patterns and habits is far more arrogant a routine than those who choose to exit for awhile and shift focus. I am *not* usually focused on you - when posting or lurking or neither - but thought I'd take a quick spin around the outside of the track tonight. Yep, it's a drama queen convention alright... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : What is this, a Drama Queen Convention? One poster drops out for a while, and others feel the need to make up stories about it. Meanwhile, those of us who have known her longest are paying the same attention to her absence that we did to anything she posted -- none, whatsoever. If she were here I wouldn't be thinking about her, so why should I spend any time thinking about her when she isn't? The only relevant question about this short break, if that is what it is, is What Comes Next. If she returns, only to drop into the same patterns and habits within a few days, then the entire exercise will have been for naught. Taking a break, only to return as the exact same person with the exact same patterns, is in my book pretty much the ultimate waste of time and energy. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. Somebody should followup in the hospitals near Judy's home to see about her condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. Worry not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
[FairfieldLife] Dueling Pirates
I think that Bhairitu and I have both mentioned the two Pirate TV series that have come out recently. For the record, I don't give a hoot whether someone prefers Crossbones (starring John Malcovich) to the earlier (and...ahem...better) series Black Sails, from STARZ. I watched both series faithfully, and enjoyed both of them immensely. But I've said since Day One of seeing Crossbones that it just wasn't up to Black Sails standards. Go figure. The viewing audiences seem to agree. Mark my words...STARZ is a creative force to be watched... Michael Bay's 'Black Sails' Gets Early Second-Season Renewal at Starz Michael Bay's 'Black Sails' Gets Early Second-Season Ren... More than five months before its series premiere, Starz has granted an early second-season renewal to pirate drama Black Sails. The Michael Bay-produced drama will ... View on www.hollywoodrepo... Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT
On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: * The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. * The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. * The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
[FairfieldLife] FFL is being taken over by reformed cult addicts
Every day, MJ and Barry and Sally, rev up and begin their testament to the rest of us, how seriously addicted to cults they were, and the rest of us need to listen to them, and not fall into the same trap. As I have mentioned before, it is only the weak minded and gullible who would give their lives over to a cult. Barry and MJ have the perfect combination of zealotry and lack of intellectual ability, to be former cult addicts. All they do is rail against the mindset they both had, that no longer exists on FFL. The rest of us are cured, but these ex cult addicts, just as they couldn't let go of their slavish adherence to the cult, no proclaim their truth for the rest of us, with the same enthusiasm and blindness that they once championed their respective cults. Funny to watch them try to cure the rest of us, of the issues that they alone face. Have at it, Barry and MJ and Sally - we're enjoying a good laugh!
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT
Yes, Barry is the most conforming of all the people on FFL. He loves to proclaim and enjoy the power of organizations he belongs to, or used to belong to. It makes him feel like a bigshot, when he is not watching stolen movies in his rented room. Quite a giant among men, that one. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation
Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT
On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: it turns out that if you're an Israeli soldier and you get captured, your buddies have orders to bomb the area to make sure that you're dead. Obviously this is just another false flag planted by an informant working as a reporter writing another so-called science article for his parents who worked for the U.S. State Department. It turns out that if you're an Israeli soldier and you get captured, your buddies will do everything to save you, even if it means putting in danger the lives other IDF soldiers. So, when terrorists sneak into a tunnel and snatch one of your guys, under no circumstances will an IDF soldier be left behind - you will do anything possible to prevent the captors from escaping, so that they can't hide and then torture and kill and mutilate the bodies of those captured. There is going to to be hell to pay for the kidnapper terrorists. This sounds like a reasonable command in war against terrorists. /In the case of capture, the main mission becomes rescuing soldiers from the captors, even at the cost of hitting or wounding other IDF soldiers. Putting an Israeli soldier's life at risk is a reasonable measure to take in order to prevent a soldier falling into the hands of Hamas or Hezbollah./ 'The Hannibal Directive: Why Israel risks the life of the soldier being rescued' Haaretz, August 3, 2014 http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.608693
[FairfieldLife] Re: That Red Dot
Something tells me, that there is very, very little bliss, enlightenment, easier life and whatnot in MJ's, Barry's or Sally's life. For example, Barry would do anything to have a girlfriend, or even go on a date. But he is too afraid to approach the babes in the bars he frequents, so we get to hear the results of his sexual frustration on here, and it ain't pretty. I wonder what MJ's problem is? Domestic issues, or works at a job he doesn't like? As for Sally, he just doesn't have a lot of goals in his cynical life, and is happy enough, hanging with the former cult addicts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : We do love you here Michael. The TM centric mindset. And so, I must ask, were you enjoying a pizza while you were watching TV, the enjoyment enhanced by the fact that you were tormenting MMY by having mushrooms on the pizza? Inquiring minds? (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I have been playing with my cat tonight using a laser pointer and as I watched him rip and tear all over the living room and den seeking to catch that little red dot, I realized cats behave the same way with a laser dot that feste, Buck, Nappy, Willy Tex's clone and all the other TM junkies behave chasing that little red dot of bliss, enlightenment, easier life and whatnot by using TM and all its bullshit adjunct programs like jyotish. My cat is worn out, sleeping beside me now as I watch the Big Bang Theory. So keep it up boys! Cat is happier now than you will ever be from chasing the TM Red Dot, but knock yourselves out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Science and the Meissner Effect of Consciousness as Field
The Meissener Effect. One percent. N-squared. All through the history of the TM movement Maharishi was making observation and hypothesis and based on observation and testing of hypothesis came the actions of policy and direction of the larger TM movement. Science process entirely drove what we see as the TM movement now. That is a clear history of the TM movement. All the movement initiatives all through the decades were always driven as science testing of hypothesis about spirituality. All along Maharishi even from the first moments of his coming to the West was dragging science in to the 21st Century around spirituality. A problem now is that the perceived less-than-ethical performance of the TM movement all along has also stalled a support of participation in and finances of the programs today that are needed to test for data and hypothesis on any of these former fronts. The old days of large science driving policy initiatives evidently are over.. related mostly to the old TM meditating community's perception around the finances of the TM movement. -Buck # Yes quite evidently you and the other anti-meditation anti-science folks here are afraid of where the data is going. Your asserting no data therefore no replication and therefore it can't be talked about or researched. Asserting that it does not exist defies reality and scientific process itself of data, observation, hypothesis and testing . Lawson is looking at how to replicate given the practical constraints of such a project given the data. You completely miss-interpret to your own vile ends. You evidently don't want anything to happen less it disturb your anti-meditation and anti-spiritual grumblings. You contend the research can't be replicated and shouldn't be, well talk about subterfuge and anti-science anti-intellectualism. Next we'll hear from you that there never was such a thing as darshan where obviously there is and then you'll say it is not worth trying to look at for fear of what we might find. Did you just renew your membership down at the local conservative Anglican Church or something that you come on so regressive like you do? -Buck in the Dome Thanks LEnglish5 very much for this more even-handed review of what is current. It is refreshing in the face of all the anti-science and allergy that so many have to TM and spirituality here on this board. -Buck What are you talking about Buck? Lawson used to be the hard core defender of ME research, it's only very recently he's come round to the viewpoint I've held all along, that ME research doesn't show what is claimed for it. So why are you calling me anti-science? Criticism is science, that's how it works. Someone has an idea, they collect evidence and publish it. The ME research doesn't show anything beyond statistical manipulation, it sure as hell didn't show a huge decrease in crime. So the ball is back in the court of the people who claim its efficacy to prove it was a real effect. Your problem is that you get all sensitive when someone criticises a pet theory of yours when it's all part of the scientific process. If the ME stands up someone will find a way of demonstrating it. It might help if they had an explanation for how it might work in the first place. Instead all they have is a bunch of wishy-washy new age terms explained in the context of other wishy-washy new age terms. So why should anyone take it seriously and go to the expense of testing it when, as Lawson points out, there appears to be no evidence to try and replicate? LEnglish5 writes: It may have been demonstrated to the satisfaction of true believers, but not to the satisfaction of skeptics. The problem with the ME research is that it is essentially not replicatable on a large-scale. No two cities or groups of cities are really alike, and even using the same city over and over again for a study has many issues. Fred Travis' thesis research on interpersonal EEG coherence (the ME between two people) would be a better route to go, but he was forced to use averages of EEG statistics over a period of many seconds, and it turns out that there is a ceiling effect on that specific measure which makes it unlikely to find the effect consistently. So... what to do? As I pointed out before, there's a more sophisticated way of analyzing global EEG called EEG microstates, where the average electrical activation of the brain can be examined in tiny slices of time, down to as low as 2-10 milliseconds per slice. That is easily 400x the resolution that Fred used in his original study. The people in charge of the TM organization are well aware of how the ME research is viewed by most non-believers, but there's been no way to satisfy genuine concerns like independent replication until now. The DC experiment not only cost the TM organization several million to conduct, but it required coordinating the lives
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation
With all due disrespect, dude, you're the guy going on about holding a candle to others, but you're also the guy who pretended to be a woman on this forum for several months. Where do you feel that you fit in in this elitist Most Successful hierarchy you fantasize about? :-) From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 3:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT
Barry's parents never worked for the Department of State. Their progeny is an obvious indication. It is an insult to suggest otherwise. Have you ever even driven past the Department of State, in your car, Dick? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: it turns out that if you're an Israeli soldier and you get captured, your buddies have orders to bomb the area to make sure that you're dead. Obviously this is just another false flag planted by an informant working as a reporter writing another so-called science article for his parents who worked for the U.S. State Department. It turns out that if you're an Israeli soldier and you get captured, your buddies will do everything to save you, even if it means putting in danger the lives other IDF soldiers. So, when terrorists sneak into a tunnel and snatch one of your guys, under no circumstances will an IDF soldier be left behind - you will do anything possible to prevent the captors from escaping, so that they can't hide and then torture and kill and mutilate the bodies of those captured. There is going to to be hell to pay for the kidnapper terrorists. This sounds like a reasonable command in war against terrorists. In the case of capture, the main mission becomes rescuing soldiers from the captors, even at the cost of hitting or wounding other IDF soldiers. Putting an Israeli soldier's life at risk is a reasonable measure to take in order to prevent a soldier falling into the hands of Hamas or Hezbollah. 'The Hannibal Directive: Why Israel risks the life of the soldier being rescued' Haaretz, August 3, 2014 http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.608693 http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.608693
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the povertyof Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: The TB has never served in the military and he is probably adraft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently werecareer U.S. military. The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and underpeer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religiousideology. The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - acountry that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocentcivilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Suc cessful, Transcendental Meditation
You and your stupid fantasy about me being a woman. Is that the best an ex cult addict can do? I suggest you not be so quick to mouth off, and instead look around at YOUR life. When is the last time you even talked to a straight woman, Barry, had a date, went out for a drink, or enjoyed a dinner together, with a real woman? A real,one, not in a magazine, or in a movie, or on a website. Flesh, Blood and sex, dude. Your masturbating is nothing to be ashamed of, but I wish you would do a LOT LESS of it, on here, and address your issues, instead, in the real world. Now, how do you compare to these people I mentioned below?? I'll wait.:-) :-) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : With all due disrespect, dude, you're the guy going on about holding a candle to others, but you're also the guy who pretended to be a woman on this forum for several months. Where do you feel that you fit in in this elitist Most Successful hierarchy you fantasize about? :-) From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 3:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Science and the Meissner Effect of Consciousness as Field
On 8/6/2014 10:07 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You have no idea what effect meditation and practicing the siddhis in a large group may have. The one thing /we do know/ is that MJ, in a trance-induction state, baked cupcakes and served them to poor students in the MIU cafeteria, resulting in at least one cult leader becoming obese. What we /don't know/ is how much pot and hash MJ put into the confections, or if he didn't put enough. It could be that he horded most of the weed in his pod and shared it with some of the female students and plied them with cheap beer every night. It may that these are some of the reason MJ was kicked off the campus in the middle of the night and had to call his parents to get a bus ticket back to where he came from. /We also know for sure/ that MJ didn't do much in the way of academic study at the religious school, but he may have prayed on his hands and knees inside a golden dome on a few occasions. Go figure. You trot out the fact that Fairfield is not an ideal place, or that it has not produced the desired effect in high profile demonstrations as proof that it is useless program. And you suggest that any benefits which one associates with the practice* are due to the power of suggestion. *Again, as has been pointed out, you exempt any particular new age teachings, or techniques that you may be embracing at the moment, and you are undecided, (according to you own words) about channeling. And if you feel that you may be in a position to benefit financially, as in promoting treatments for PTSD for veterans, then certainly you exempt those treatments, even it they have a new agey twinge about them.. As for your usual Willytex reference, you might want to consider the advice he has sometimes offered you, which is to look more to the future, instead of spending so much time rehashing the past. He does not lie when he states that this TMO has made a remarkably deep impression on you. I mean, let's face it, you've often bragged about the profound experiences you've had (or had) both during and after meditation.The time spent watching you try to disown those experiences were some of the best posts we had in a while. I'd love to have a taste of that again. Oh, this wasting time is sometimes fun! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : The ME hasn't produced the result as it has predicted, so therefore it has not effect, no value. Now how in the world can you interpret it any other way? Are you really a Willy Tex clone? What do you do, sit in the John Hagelin presentations and say Oh the Marshy Effect hasn't worked like you said it would, but I am just going to go on ignoring the man behind the curtain and believe whatever you and Big Bopper Bevan tell me. Here, here is another check to support the pundit project which is part of the ME effect. I answered my own question - you are a Willy Tex clone in addition to being a schnook and a schmoe. *From:* steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 6, 2014 7:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Science and the Meissner Effect of Consciousness as Field You have to understand that Michael lives in a black and white world. Darshan doesn't exist if not everyone responds to an so called enlightened individual in an exact same way. The ME hasn't produced the result as it has predicted, so therefore it has not effect, no value. I am not sure what makes a person view things in such a black and white way, and really wouldn't want to speculate about it. Oh, and then anyone who believes otherwise is some kind of cult apologist, or true believer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Prove darshan exists - its a made up feel good deal. There are people who met Marshy and didn't feel shit for energy from him. So how do you account for that? Just interjecting here - I haven't been around anyone with this thing you call darshan and I certainly don't believe in saints. Saints are renderings on canvas and in sculpture of mythical creatures who existed centuries ago and were memorialized in works of art. There are only human beings. Some are charismatic, some could charm the pants (literally) off someone and some can make you do all sorts of things like spend lots of money or time doing things they want you to do. However, there is power and there is energy and there is all sorts of stuff going on in the universe that is mysterious and scary and wonderful and invisible. The fact that some can feel the purported darshan from MMY and some don't is just like some people can be moved or can appreciate or feel the power in a great piece of music or art or film and some simply don't
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What inaccurate predictions? Most people had questions for things that really stood out in the chart. Those predictions are easy to see. Also many people just wanted to know why their life went the way it did, not necessarily predictions. I also use a lot of intuition. I bet, intuition and randomness, can be mighty impressive, even to the person pulling the scam , erm I mean casting the runes. It's a point worth remembering about cold-reading, astrology or any sort of divination. The practitioner may not be aware of what they are doing. Intuition and general knowledge of what people want to hear are behind this, the fiddling around with ephemeris is irrelevant. We ought to know that by now. The chart helps key that and gives direction. If you tie yourself down to much to rules you start making bad predictions. Exactly, it aint nothing to do with planets or stars or anything astronomical. I'm glad we finally got there Bhairitu, it was wearing me out! Exactly what I said earlier. The chart does absolutely NOTHING but trigger the supposed astrologer's intuition or bullshittery. If they're actually intuitive, they'll get a few random hits on future events, if they're mainly bullshitters, they won't. But not a word of it will ever have anything to do with the positions of the planets. You know you're in the majority on this, right bawee? Yours is the common man's viewpoint. You are the average shmo who ridicules and scoffs while somehow posturing themselves on the higher, although rickety, soapbox. Doubting is the lazy man's route and the unimaginative ones as well. You are never original, you simply give voice to the meat and potatoes attitude of the majority of the population who finds comfort in vapid entertainment, pooh poohs others for having a hope or a dream that doesn't conform to their tired way of viewing the world and who doesn't appear to be able to be surprised by anything any more.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : What is this, a Drama Queen Convention? One poster drops out for a while, and others feel the need to make up stories about it. Meanwhile, those of us who have known her longest are paying the same attention to her absence that we did to anything she posted -- none, whatsoever. If she were here I wouldn't be thinking about her, so why should I spend any time thinking about her when she isn't? And why would you post about this, why take the time, the bother? You know damn well there isn't a soul on this forum who isn't abundantly aware that Judy is no longer posting. I find it human and natural for people to wonder where she is and how she is. Only someone like yourself who feels the universe revolves around himself would resent the fact that others care about your nemesis, would be concerned that perhaps she is ill or injured or in some way unfortunately indisposed. The only relevant question about this short break, if that is what it is, is What Comes Next. If she returns, only to drop into the same patterns and habits within a few days, then the entire exercise will have been for naught. Taking a break, only to return as the exact same person with the exact same patterns, is in my book pretty much the ultimate waste of time and energy. Try it sometime, you might find your world expanding, your viewpoints becoming more rounded and intelligent. This place is such a known to you, you who have all the answers for yourself and everyone else on the planet. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. Somebody should followup in the hospitals near Judy's home to see about her condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. Worry not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... wrote : Barryread what you wrote below! When is the last time you took a break? Has there been one in the last 2.5 years? Never taking a break and relentlessly showcasing your completely predictable patterns and habits is far more arrogant a routine than those who choose to exit for awhile and shift focus. I am *not* usually focused on you - when posting or lurking or neither - but thought I'd take a quick spin around the outside of the track tonight. Yep, it's a drama queen convention alright... Yes, bickering about astrology ad infinitum is rather tiresome, boys... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : What is this, a Drama Queen Convention? One poster drops out for a while, and others feel the need to make up stories about it. Meanwhile, those of us who have known her longest are paying the same attention to her absence that we did to anything she posted -- none, whatsoever. If she were here I wouldn't be thinking about her, so why should I spend any time thinking about her when she isn't? The only relevant question about this short break, if that is what it is, is What Comes Next. If she returns, only to drop into the same patterns and habits within a few days, then the entire exercise will have been for naught. Taking a break, only to return as the exact same person with the exact same patterns, is in my book pretty much the ultimate waste of time and energy. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. Somebody should followup in the hospitals near Judy's home to see about her condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. Worry not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Science and the Meissner Effect of Consciousness as Field
On 8/6/2014 10:47 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The effect as you call it is the effect of gullible people listening to Hagelin and Marshy's bullshit about it and suspending their logical critical thinking skills, feeling wonderful about creating non-existent world peace and giving more time and money to a fake ass movement and guru. /Now this is funny/ - a guy who is in a trance-induction state that was so gullible and prone to suggestion that he took a Greyhound bus up to Iowa to live in a pod for two years during the winter and work for free, so he could get down on his hands and knees and pray inside a golden dome twice a day, thinks Buck is /suspending his logical thinking/. You just can't make this stuff up - it's a wonderful feeling for someone like me who just feels better when he has somone to talk to. It's the gift that just keeps on giving and giving and giving! Thanks, but please don't feed it anymore - it's just to funny. *From:* dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 6, 2014 10:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Science and the Meissner Effect of Consciousness as Field Data, Observation, Hypothesis and Test. Quite evidently it [the Meissner Effect of Consciousness] was hypothesized, data gathered, tested and demonstrated quite well statistically. You quite evidently are just saying what you are saying as part of your own emotionally damaged anti-science anti-intellectual very personal PR program against TM and spirituality. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck mjackson74 writes: The ME hasn't produced the result as it has predicted, so therefore it has not effect, no value. Now how in the world can you interpret it any other way? Are you really a Willy Tex clone? What do you do, sit in the John Hagelin presentations and say Oh the Marshy Effect hasn't worked like you said it would, but I am just going to go on ignoring the man behind the curtain and believe whatever you and Big Bopper Bevan tell me. Here, here is another check to support the pundit project which is part of the ME effect. I answered my own question - you are a Willy Tex clone in addition to being a schnook and a schmoe. *From:* steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 6, 2014 7:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Science and the Meissner Effect of Consciousness as Field You have to understand that Michael lives in a black and white world. Darshan doesn't exist if not everyone responds to an so called enlightened individual in an exact same way. The ME hasn't produced the result as it has predicted, so therefore it has not effect, no value. I am not sure what makes a person view things in such a black and white way, and really wouldn't want to speculate about it. Oh, and then anyone who believes otherwise is some kind of cult apologist, or true believer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Prove darshan exists - its a made up feel good deal. There are people who met Marshy and didn't feel shit for energy from him. So how do you account for that? Just interjecting here - I haven't been around anyone with this thing you call darshan and I certainly don't believe in saints. Saints are renderings on canvas and in sculpture of mythical creatures who existed centuries ago and were memorialized in works of art. There are only human beings. Some are charismatic, some could charm the pants (literally) off someone and some can make you do all sorts of things like spend lots of money or time doing things they want you to do. However, there is power and there is energy and there is all sorts of stuff going on in the universe that is mysterious and scary and wonderful and invisible. The fact that some can feel the purported darshan from MMY and some don't is just like some people can be moved or can appreciate or feel the power in a great piece of music or art or film and some simply don't get it. It's in the perception of the perceiver, not necessarily inherent or not inherent in the object, person or event. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 6, 2014 7:44 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Science and the Meissner Effect of Consciousness as Field ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Yes quite evidently you and the other anti-meditation anti-science folks here are afraid of where the data is going. Your asserting no data therefore no replication and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Exactly, it aint nothing to do with planets or stars or anything astronomical. I'm glad we finally got there Bhairitu, it was wearing me out! Exactly what I said earlier. Yes, I was going to let your previous post be the last word but I can't help myself, that hornets nest is just begging to be kicked ;-) The chart does absolutely NOTHING but trigger the supposed astrologer's intuition or bullshittery. If they're actually intuitive, they'll get a few random hits on future events, if they're mainly bullshitters, they won't. But not a word of it will ever have anything to do with the positions of the planets. Shame Bhairitu never took up my challenge of doing a chart and making some predictions years ago, would have been fun as he claims to have a 100% success rate. Don't suppose it would work now Well, we have a test prediction now. JR hath proclaimed: Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. I suspect that this exercise in bullshittery will put an end to JR's credibility, but not his predictions. :-) Or is this the gomer convention? salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Exactly, it aint nothing to do with planets or stars or anything astronomical. I'm glad we finally got there Bhairitu, it was wearing me out! Exactly what I said earlier. Yes, I was going to let your previous post be the last word but I can't help myself, that hornets nest is just begging to be kicked ;-) The chart does absolutely NOTHING but trigger the supposed astrologer's intuition or bullshittery. If they're actually intuitive, they'll get a few random hits on future events, if they're mainly bullshitters, they won't. But not a word of it will ever have anything to do with the positions of the planets. Shame Bhairitu never took up my challenge of doing a chart and making some predictions years ago, would have been fun as he claims to have a 100% success rate. Don't suppose it would work now Well, we have a test prediction now. JR has made his Jyotish prediction:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
Gold Star for you Ann, hands down! Yes, Barry is the panderer to mediocrity, the big fish in the little puddle, the orator of all things compromised and broken; the idiot's champion, but I digress... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What inaccurate predictions? Most people had questions for things that really stood out in the chart. Those predictions are easy to see. Also many people just wanted to know why their life went the way it did, not necessarily predictions. I also use a lot of intuition. I bet, intuition and randomness, can be mighty impressive, even to the person pulling the scam , erm I mean casting the runes. It's a point worth remembering about cold-reading, astrology or any sort of divination. The practitioner may not be aware of what they are doing. Intuition and general knowledge of what people want to hear are behind this, the fiddling around with ephemeris is irrelevant. We ought to know that by now. The chart helps key that and gives direction. If you tie yourself down to much to rules you start making bad predictions. Exactly, it aint nothing to do with planets or stars or anything astronomical. I'm glad we finally got there Bhairitu, it was wearing me out! Exactly what I said earlier. The chart does absolutely NOTHING but trigger the supposed astrologer's intuition or bullshittery. If they're actually intuitive, they'll get a few random hits on future events, if they're mainly bullshitters, they won't. But not a word of it will ever have anything to do with the positions of the planets. You know you're in the majority on this, right bawee? Yours is the common man's viewpoint. You are the average shmo who ridicules and scoffs while somehow posturing themselves on the higher, although rickety, soapbox. Doubting is the lazy man's route and the unimaginative ones as well. You are never original, you simply give voice to the meat and potatoes attitude of the majority of the population who finds comfort in vapid entertainment, pooh poohs others for having a hope or a dream that doesn't conform to their tired way of viewing the world and who doesn't appear to be able to be surprised by anything any more.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Science and the Meissner Effect of Consciousness as Field
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Science and the Meissner Effect of Consciousness as Field On 8/6/2014 10:07 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You have no idea what effect meditation and practicing the siddhis in a large group may have. The one thing we do know is that MJ, in a trance-induction state, baked cupcakes and served them to poor students in the MIU cafeteria, resulting in at least one cult leader becoming obese. What we don't know is how much pot and hash MJ put into the confections, or if he didn't put enough. It could be that he horded most of the weed in his pod and shared it with some of the female students and plied them with cheap beer every night. It may that these are some of the reason MJ was kicked off the campus in the middle of the night and had to call his parents to get a bus ticket back to where he came from. We also know for sure that MJ didn't do much in the way of academic study at the religious school, but he may have prayed on his hands and knees inside a golden dome on a few occasions. Go figure. OK, Rick and Alex...WTF? If this isn't using Fairfield Life to smear the name, reputation and potential livelihood of another FFL poster, what is? Richard Williams is actually accusing Michael on a publicly published forum of several *Federal fucking crimes*, ferchrssakes. None of this shit ever happened, and he knows it. Yet he writes it anyway. This is the legal dictionary definition of libel. Remember back when you threw Ravi off of Fairfield Life for saying untrue things about Curtis, things that could very well harm his reputation and his ability to earn a living in the real world? That was a Good Thing. Overlooking Richard doing the same thing and worse really ISN'T a Good Thing. Just sayin'...
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL is being taken over by reformed cult addicts
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Every day, MJ and Barry and Sally, rev up and begin their testament to the rest of us, how seriously addicted to cults they were, and the rest of us need to listen to them, and not fall into the same trap. As I have mentioned before, it is only the weak minded and gullible who would give their lives over to a cult. Barry and MJ have the perfect combination of zealotry and lack of intellectual ability, to be former cult addicts. All they do is rail against the mindset they both had, that no longer exists on FFL. The rest of us are cured, but these ex cult addicts, just as they couldn't let go of their slavish adherence to the cult, no proclaim their truth for the rest of us, with the same enthusiasm and blindness that they once championed their respective cults. Funny to watch them try to cure the rest of us, of the issues that they alone face. Have at it, Barry and MJ and Sally - we're enjoying a good laugh! What is the most droll is how this trio thinks we need some mindset changed or that we give a damn about either what they believe about themselves or us. Half the time I don't know who they're spouting on about and then I look around and they are pointing a finger at the most unattached/unconcerned/open-minded people at FFL. It is like they need to create this imaginary audience in order to provide meaning to their misplaced scolding and contempt.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successfu l, Transcendental Meditation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... Well Sally did imagine himself to be a giant paperclip once... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
[FairfieldLife] Judy and Barry, was Judy
On 8/7/2014 1:20 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: What is this, a Drama Queen Convention? So, it's all about Judy. It looks like to me that Barry lost his target audience, which may account for why we haven't heard much lately from the TB. Debating Judy has been his main online activity since before 1995 - he must have posted over 10,000 replies to Judy by now on Google Groups and Yahoo! Groups. The TB has probably written and submitted dozens of science articles for his family to read, based on what he reads on the internet. So, where are these science articles he writes - that's the question. If we are going to have our messages swiped and published by someone for money we ought to be able to at least read them on PubMed or in a science magazine somewhere, right? Go figure. One poster drops out for a while, and others feel the need to make up stories about it. Meanwhile, those of us who have known her longest are paying the same attention to her absence that we did to anything she posted -- none, whatsoever. If she were here I wouldn't be thinking about her, so why should I spend any time thinking about her when she isn't? The only relevant question about this short break, if that is what it is, is What Comes Next. If she returns, only to drop into the same patterns and habits within a few days, then the entire exercise will have been for naught. Taking a break, only to return as the exact same person with the exact same patterns, is in my book pretty much the ultimate waste of time and energy. *From:* jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:51 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. Somebody should followup in the hospitals near Judy's home to see about her condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. Worry not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: it turns out that if you're an Israeli soldier and you get captured, your buddies have orders to bomb the area to make sure that you're dead. Obviously this is just another false flag planted by an informant working as a reporter writing another so-called science article for his parents who worked for the U.S. State Department. It turns out that if you're an Israeli soldier and you get captured, your buddies will do everything to save you, even if it means putting in danger the lives other IDF soldiers. So, when terrorists sneak into a tunnel and snatch one of your guys, under no circumstances will an IDF soldier be left behind - you will do anything possible to prevent the captors from escaping, so that they can't hide and then torture and kill and mutilate the bodies of those captured. There is going to to be hell to pay for the kidnapper terrorists. This sounds like a reasonable command in war against terrorists. In the case of capture, the main mission becomes rescuing soldiers from the captors, even at the cost of hitting or wounding other IDF soldiers. Putting an Israeli soldier's life at risk is a reasonable measure to take in order to prevent a soldier falling into the hands of Hamas or Hezbollah. 'The Hannibal Directive: Why Israel risks the life of the soldier being rescued' Haaretz, August 3, 2014 The Hannibal Directive: Why Israel risks the life of the soldier being rescued - Diplomacy and Defense http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.608693 http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.608693 The Hannibal Directive: Why Israel risks the life of the... http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.608693 For 17 years, the dramatically named directive, one of the most controversial orders in Israeli military history, remained a secret. When it was made public, it g... View on www.haaretz.com http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.608693 Preview by Yahoo It's okay, bawee gets all his information off FB, he's bound to make a couple of reporting mistakes as a result.
Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL is being taken over by reformed cult addicts
you really are living in a dream world if you think others here on FFL don't have a slavish Marshy is god mentality - ever read the posts of Nabby? I thought enlightened people never made mistakes? From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL is being taken over by reformed cult addicts Every day, MJ and Barry and Sally, rev up and begin their testament to the rest of us, how seriously addicted to cults they were, and the rest of us need to listen to them, and not fall into the same trap. As I have mentioned before, it is only the weak minded and gullible who would give their lives over to a cult. Barry and MJ have the perfect combination of zealotry and lack of intellectual ability, to be former cult addicts. All they do is rail against the mindset they both had, that no longer exists on FFL. The rest of us are cured, but these ex cult addicts, just as they couldn't let go of their slavish adherence to the cult, no proclaim their truth for the rest of us, with the same enthusiasm and blindness that they once championed their respective cults. Funny to watch them try to cure the rest of us, of the issues that they alone face. Have at it, Barry and MJ and Sally - we're enjoying a good laugh!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: That Red Dot
You mean this wasn't about a *tika*? On Thursday, August 7, 2014 6:30 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Something tells me, that there is very, very little bliss, enlightenment, easier life and whatnot in MJ's, Barry's or Sally's life. For example, Barry would do anything to have a girlfriend, or even go on a date. But he is too afraid to approach the babes in the bars he frequents, so we get to hear the results of his sexual frustration on here, and it ain't pretty. I wonder what MJ's problem is? Domestic issues, or works at a job he doesn't like? As for Sally, he just doesn't have a lot of goals in his cynical life, and is happy enough, hanging with the former cult addicts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : We do love you here Michael. The TM centric mindset. And so, I must ask, were you enjoying a pizza while you were watching TV, the enjoyment enhanced by the fact that you were tormenting MMY by having mushrooms on the pizza? Inquiring minds? (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I have been playing with my cat tonight using a laser pointer and as I watched him rip and tear all over the living room and den seeking to catch that little red dot, I realized cats behave the same way with a laser dot that feste, Buck, Nappy, Willy Tex's clone and all the other TM junkies behave chasing that little red dot of bliss, enlightenment, easier life and whatnot by using TM and all its bullshit adjunct programs like jyotish. My cat is worn out, sleeping beside me now as I watch the Big Bang Theory. So keep it up boys! Cat is happier now than you will ever be from chasing the TM Red Dot, but knock yourselves out.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy
On 8/7/2014 1:33 AM, dmevans...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Barryread what you wrote below! When is the last time you took a break? Has there been one in the last 2.5 years? Never taking a break and relentlessly showcasing your completely predictable patterns and habits is far more arrogant a routine than those who choose to exit for awhile and shift focus. I am *not* usually focused on you - when posting or lurking or neither - but thought I'd take a quick spin around the outside of the track tonight. For the record, the TB has been posting to social media every day since 1995 without a single break and it's the same message day after day, year after year: Get Judy. 2014 - 1995 = 19 years, that's nearly half of his adult life. The other half was spent supporting the Rama cult and trying to get people to believe that Rama could levitate. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : What is this, a Drama Queen Convention? One poster drops out for a while, and others feel the need to make up stories about it. Meanwhile, those of us who have known her longest are paying the same attention to her absence that we did to anything she posted -- none, whatsoever. If she were here I wouldn't be thinking about her, so why should I spend any time thinking about her when she isn't? The only relevant question about this short break, if that is what it is, is What Comes Next. If she returns, only to drop into the same patterns and habits within a few days, then the entire exercise will have been for naught. Taking a break, only to return as the exact same person with the exact same patterns, is in my book pretty much the ultimate waste of time and energy. *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:51 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. Somebody should followup in the hospitals near Judy's home to see about her condition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I only just saw this, Seventh. I fear that something bad may have happened, because I don't recall Judy ever going silent for so long. But I have no way of finding out what is going on with her. Like many posters here, I had some rough exchanges with Judy, but there were some pleasant ones too, and I miss her. The fact that she has not replied to private emails from me or Ann is not good news at all. Perhaps we will never know. Worry not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I always said to her, as a public comment, that she shared very little of her personal life, for someone who was such a prolific poster. She always said that I was mistaken. I guess I was right. How does someone like that, as you say, just disappear, without some comment about it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's been about 6 weeks since Judy posted. She once said, quite recently, that posting here was her hobby. She has been doing it here since, what, 2005? Then she suddenly disappears. I emailed her but did not get a reply. Usually people do not suddenly give up their long-standing hobbies unless they are in some adverse circumstances, such as bad health or worse. Does anyone know anything? I think it rather sad that someone could be such a presence on this board for so long and then vanish, and for it to produce such little comment.
[FairfieldLife] For the Turq and his Superiors
For Some of New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation Read more at For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/#ixzz39iRGlNR0 Follow us: @newyorkobserver on Twitter http://ec.tynt.com/b/rw?id=bgPjROrI8r44uZacwqm_6lu=newyorkobserver | newyorkobserver on Facebook http://ec.tynt.com/b/rf?id=bgPjROrI8r44uZacwqm_6lu=newyorkobserver http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/#ixzz39iRGlNR0 For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendent... http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/#ixzz39iRGlNR0 TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and celebrities ... View on observer.com http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/#ixzz39iRGlNR0 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] TV series review: Outlander
Sorry, bad link: Outlander Trailer (Season 1 Trailer) - IMDb Outlander Trailer (Season 1 Trailer) - IMDb Watch the latest Outlander Trailer (Season 1 Trailer) on IMDb View on www.imdb.com Preview by Yahoo From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] TV series review: Outlander OK...gulp...I'll go for it, and review this new series, before most others on the Net do. I think it'll become a contentious subject in the near future, so I want to get out in front of the snarling pack. :-) Outlander appears to be a new British-American TV series that is about to create a sensation when it is released in the U.S. on the STARZ network. (Yes, them again.) I stumbled upon it in PirateLand a few days ago, and downloaded it just for the title, but then, as it was actually being downloaded, I read further to learn that it was the TV version of a remarkably popular series of Romance Porn novels. OK, I thought, that's a bit odd, but maybe worth a shot. Then I read further to learn that the Outlander series of novels -- and thus the TV series -- is an odd mish-mash of bodice ripper/science fiction/romance porn. So I watched it. And my personal jury is still out, but I'm bemused enough by the first episode to write this. It's an odd series, and very well done IMO for being all of the things it's trying to be. The basic plot seems to be that a combat nurse in 1945 is magically transported back to the same place in Scotland in 1743. Adventure and bodice-ripping ensue. http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi1462938649/of
[FairfieldLife] TV series review: Outlander
OK...gulp...I'll go for it, and review this new series, before most others on the Net do. I think it'll become a contentious subject in the near future, so I want to get out in front of the snarling pack. :-) Outlander appears to be a new British-American TV series that is about to create a sensation when it is released in the U.S. on the STARZ network. (Yes, them again.) I stumbled upon it in PirateLand a few days ago, and downloaded it just for the title, but then, as it was actually being downloaded, I read further to learn that it was the TV version of a remarkably popular series of Romance Porn novels. OK, I thought, that's a bit odd, but maybe worth a shot. Then I read further to learn that the Outlander series of novels -- and thus the TV series -- is an odd mish-mash of bodice ripper/science fiction/romance porn. So I watched it. And my personal jury is still out, but I'm bemused enough by the first episode to write this. It's an odd series, and very well done IMO for being all of the things it's trying to be. The basic plot seems to be that a combat nurse in 1945 is magically transported back to the same place in Scotland in 1743. Adventure and bodice-ripping ensue. http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi1462938649/of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation
I see your enlightenment doesn't make you immune from ignorantly admiring people for the amount of money they have. Let's see now. Ray Dalio – here is what a couple of his former employees say about him. “I was a former employee, hired to restructure the trading platform but after day 48 of listening to the mandatory morning brainwash tapes I asked Ray how long this would continue? I was told to leave for the day and upon returning my access had been revoked.“ “Dalio’s shop reminds me of Military mind fucking. Sure they’re smart, going in, a couple of years working for Dalio and the only skill they acquired- Coordinating the firms lunch menu. True story!” Says former Marine and 18-year veteran hedge fund recruiter who asked to remain anonymous. “Empathy and kindness aren’t a top priority there,” says a former Bridgewater employee. The asshole runs his hedge fund company like a cult – he learned from the TMO and Marshy. End of story. Both he and Dan Loeb are a couple of rapacious greedy crooks. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/dan-loeb-simultaneously-solicits-betrays-pension-funds-20130411 Paul McCartney smoked pot daily for 46 years and now suddenly he's stumping for David Lynch. Ringo too – they just suddenly woke up and decided to do TM again? I don't think so. Mario Batali – famous for abusing his employees. Mario Batali hands over $5 million to staff for withholding tips Mario Batali hands over $5 million to staff for withhold... Celebrity Chef Mario Batali and his partner Joseph Bastianich have agreed to hand over $5.25 million to employees at his restaurant who claim he withheld tips. View on www.dailymail.co.uk Preview by Yahoo As to the actors like Lena Dunham a bunch of them are doing it cause its trendy and it gets their names mentioned in the press. Read the rest of the article about what an idiot Hagelin looks like when he touts his shit. As to the so called successful, liars, abusers and cheats – if you admire them, you need to have your meditation checked or get your money back from the Movement. From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
[FairfieldLife] For the Turq and his Superiors
Mindfulness and Transcendental Meditation – A Georgetown Researcher’s One Minute Comparison - See more at: Mindfulness and Transcendental Meditation – A Georgetown Researcher’s One Minute Comparison http://www.tm.org/blog/vlog/comparison-of-transcendental-meditation-and-mindfulness/#sthash.mQiABfF2.dpuf http://www.tm.org/blog/vlog/comparison-of-transcendental-meditation-and-mindfulness/#sthash.mQiABfF2.dpuf Mindfulness and Transcendental Meditation –... http://www.tm.org/blog/vlog/comparison-of-transcendental-meditation-and-mindfulness/#sthash.mQiABfF2.dpuf The Video: This short highlight features Dr. Norman Rosenthal’s participation in the February 2014 New York Town Hall Forum panel discussion Meditation: Cre... View on www.tm.org http://www.tm.org/blog/vlog/comparison-of-transcendental-meditation-and-mindfulness/#sthash.mQiABfF2.dpuf Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. From: William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: * The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. * The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. * The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL is being taken over by reformed cult addicts
On 8/7/2014 8:12 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Every day, MJ and Barry and Sally, rev up and begin their testament to the rest of us, how seriously addicted to cults they were, and the rest of us need to listen to them, and not fall into the same trap. Apparently these three misfits sponged off of the TMO for years without doing the slightest it of honest work. What is really amazing is, to this day they are still trying to get traction off of using MMY. So, I ask you, if they lied for all those years, why would anyone believe anything they say now? According to Curtis, they were trying to sell us snake-oil - now they're trying to tell us it was all MMY's fault. Obviously these guys have been in a trance-induction state for most of their adult lives. Go figure. As I have mentioned before, it is only the weak minded and gullible who would give their lives over to a cult. Barry and MJ have the perfect combination of zealotry and lack of intellectual ability, to be former cult addicts. All they do is rail against the mindset they both had, that no longer exists on FFL. The rest of us are cured, but these ex cult addicts, just as they couldn't let go of their slavish adherence to the cult, no proclaim their truth for the rest of us, with the same enthusiasm and blindness that they once championed their respective cults. Funny to watch them try to cure the rest of us, of the issues that they alone face. Have at it, Barry and MJ and Sally - we're enjoying a good laugh!
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. From: William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: * The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. * The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. * The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT
On 8/7/2014 8:14 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yes, Barry is the most conforming of all the people on FFL. He loves to proclaim and enjoy the power of organizations he belongs to, or used to belong to. It makes him feel like a bigshot, when he is not watching stolen movies in his rented room. Quite a giant among men, that one. lol Here's a guy that steals other people's work off the internet and then tries to make us believe that he is the ethical artist. Everyone knows that the TB is self-professed pirate and hacker. The question is, /how could a guy be so stupid as to proclaim his piracy and then publish his own IP address?/ It just doesn't make any sense. The TB has got to be a plant and informant of some kind - nobody is so stupid as to use their real name on social media and then brag about stealing the personal information of others by a subterfuge, posing as a science writer and reporting back to his own family in Houston for money to live in Amsterdam and frequent biker bars and hash dens on a dank canal. It's stupid, really stupid. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: * The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. * The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. * The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
its ignored by the TMO and all True Believers - if you know diff, come on and make a liar out-a me. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. From: William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: * The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. * The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. * The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Suc cessful, Transcendental Meditation
I forgot, the rest of the world is wrong, and the three ex cult addicts are always right, about everything. Cult thinking at its best, MJ. You guys really need some therapy. The TMers on here are doing much, much better than any of the ex cult addicts, in every way; sexually, economically, and socially. BUT you three are ALWAYS RIGHT, Right?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I see your enlightenment doesn't make you immune from ignorantly admiring people for the amount of money they have. Let's see now. Ray Dalio – here is what a couple of his former employees say about him. “I was a former employee, hired to restructure the trading platform but after day 48 of listening to the mandatory morning brainwash tapes I asked Ray how long this would continue? I was told to leave for the day and upon returning my access had been revoked.“ “Dalio’s shop reminds me of Military mind fucking. Sure they’re smart, going in, a couple of years working for Dalio and the only skill they acquired- Coordinating the firms lunch menu. True story!” Says former Marine and 18-year veteran hedge fund recruiter who asked to remain anonymous. “Empathy and kindness aren’t a top priority there,” says a former Bridgewater employee. The asshole runs his hedge fund company like a cult – he learned from the TMO and Marshy. End of story. Both he and Dan Loeb are a couple of rapacious greedy crooks. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/dan-loeb-simultaneously-solicits-betrays-pension-funds-20130411 http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/dan-loeb-simultaneously-solicits-betrays-pension-funds-20130411 Paul McCartney smoked pot daily for 46 years and now suddenly he's stumping for David Lynch. Ringo too – they just suddenly woke up and decided to do TM again? I don't think so. Mario Batali – famous for abusing his employees. Mario Batali hands over $5 million to staff for withholding tips http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2549595/Fork-Celebrity-chef-Mario-Bataliu.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2549595/Fork-Celebrity-chef-Mario-Bataliu.html Mario Batali hands over $5 million to staff for withhold... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2549595/Fork-Celebrity-chef-Mario-Bataliu.html Celebrity Chef Mario Batali and his partner Joseph Bastianich have agreed to hand over $5.25 million to employees at his restaurant who claim he withheld tips. View on www.dailymail.co.uk http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2549595/Fork-Celebrity-chef-Mario-Bataliu.html Preview by Yahoo As to the actors like Lena Dunham a bunch of them are doing it cause its trendy and it gets their names mentioned in the press. Read the rest of the article about what an idiot Hagelin looks like when he touts his shit. As to the so called successful, liars, abusers and cheats – if you admire them, you need to have your meditation checked or get your money back from the Movement. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
Anything to avoid his real life, which must be a real nightmare. Like Barry's, and Sally's. These three are doing their damnedest to distract themselves away from their pathetic livelihoods. Trouble is, not one is taking the bait. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. From: William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
Michael, as with many of your allegations, you are very much out of date with your accusation that suicide is ignored by the TMO. If you or anyone else sincerely wants more info, then email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:59 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: its ignored by the TMO and all True Believers - if you know diff, come on and make a liar out-a me. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. From: William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: * The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. * The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. * The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. This is such a complicated subject, MJ. Those who attempt suicide are complex subjects and certainly not you and maybe not even a mental health professional can always pinpoint why some people chose to take their own lives. To blame TM directly for suicides would be virtually impossible to do just as blaming a bad breakup, the loss of a job or a health crisis may not be the one and only, or even relevant factor, in why someone wants to kill themselves. Prior mental instability or psychological problems caused by chemical imbalances in the body and brain all contribute. Personality is another factor. The simplistic thinking inherent in blaming one thing only for the gargantuan decision to pull the plug on one's life is not doing anyone any favors. You are merely looking for an excuse to pin another accusation on TM for something that is multi-dimensional and extremely complex. From: William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT
On 8/7/2014 8:33 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Barry's parents never worked for the Department of State. Their progeny is an obvious indication. It is an insult to suggest otherwise. Have you ever even driven past the Department of State, in your car, Dick? According to the TB, his parents were employed in the U.S. diplomatic corp and were stationed in numerous military installations all over the world. In order to be allowed entrance to top secret military bases the whole family needs a security clearance. The TB already claimed to be in close touch to lurking reporters and that he writes science articles for his family for money. So, it's not a stretch to imagine the TB to be an informant, since that's what he tries to do most of the time - inform. It's always of interest to know why some people turn against their own country and go over to the other side, but he could be a double-agent - he already admitted to having an agent of his own and his Pal, the impostorMichael Jackson, recently proclaimed to have an official proclamation to share with us. Go figure. What we don't know is how all these hippies like the TB avoided the military draft - unless maybe they had some very high connections. And, yes I have driven past many offices of the U.S. State Department - I was a military brat myself for over 18 years, including three years in Britain and three years in the Far East. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: it turns out that if you're an Israeli soldier and you get captured, your buddies have orders to bomb the area to make sure that you're dead. Obviously this is just another false flag planted by an informant working as a reporter writing another so-called science article for his parents who worked for the U.S. State Department. It turns out that if you're an Israeli soldier and you get captured, your buddies will do everything to save you, even if it means putting in danger the lives other IDF soldiers. So, when terrorists sneak into a tunnel and snatch one of your guys, under no circumstances will an IDF soldier be left behind - you will do anything possible to prevent the captors from escaping, so that they can't hide and then torture and kill and mutilate the bodies of those captured. There is going to to be hell to pay for the kidnapper terrorists. This sounds like a reasonable command in war against terrorists. /In the case of capture, the main mission becomes rescuing soldiers from the captors, even at the cost of hitting or wounding other IDF soldiers. Putting an Israeli soldier's life at risk is a reasonable measure to take in order to prevent a soldier falling into the hands of Hamas or Hezbollah./ 'The Hannibal Directive: Why Israel risks the life of the soldier being rescued' Haaretz, August 3, 2014 http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.608693
Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL is being taken over by reformed cult addicts
Nabby seems to be doing quite well - Nothing slavish in his personality, at all. You three are the ones with issues, MJ, bitching and moaning all the time, about what others are doing, that you don't like. Take your hand out of your pants, and begin some introspection. Enough jerking off about what the rest of us should do. That goes for your spouting buddies, too. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : you really are living in a dream world if you think others here on FFL don't have a slavish Marshy is god mentality - ever read the posts of Nabby? I thought enlightened people never made mistakes? From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL is being taken over by reformed cult addicts Every day, MJ and Barry and Sally, rev up and begin their testament to the rest of us, how seriously addicted to cults they were, and the rest of us need to listen to them, and not fall into the same trap. As I have mentioned before, it is only the weak minded and gullible who would give their lives over to a cult. Barry and MJ have the perfect combination of zealotry and lack of intellectual ability, to be former cult addicts. All they do is rail against the mindset they both had, that no longer exists on FFL. The rest of us are cured, but these ex cult addicts, just as they couldn't let go of their slavish adherence to the cult, no proclaim their truth for the rest of us, with the same enthusiasm and blindness that they once championed their respective cults. Funny to watch them try to cure the rest of us, of the issues that they alone face. Have at it, Barry and MJ and Sally - we're enjoying a good laugh!
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
On 8/7/2014 8:36 AM, William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. It is a fact that the TB has never served in the military, so he probably avoided the draft on psychological grounds.But, he could have also have been rejected for being a drug user or all of the above. At any rate, we know the TB often frequents hash dens over in Amsterdam and reports back to skin-head bikers at cheap cafes located on a dank canal. His alias is known all over the internet for being associated with internet pirates and hackers. What we don't know is what is his connection is with Judy, his debating partner for twenty years, and what happened to her. So, I wonder if Judy was taken out for knowing too much? Go figure. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: * The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. * The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. * The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT
TB's dad was in the air force. They would not have let him into the diplomatic corps - The standards are much, much higher, than getting into a branch of the war machine. Even if he had made it in, he would have been what they call selected out in a few years, no doubt. People that don't get along with others, having the my way or the highway attitude, as his father did, and he does, would not last even a few months in the Foreign Service. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/7/2014 8:33 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Barry's parents never worked for the Department of State. Their progeny is an obvious indication. It is an insult to suggest otherwise. Have you ever even driven past the Department of State, in your car, Dick? According to the TB, his parents were employed in the U.S. diplomatic corp and were stationed in numerous military installations all over the world. In order to be allowed entrance to top secret military bases the whole family needs a security clearance. The TB already claimed to be in close touch to lurking reporters and that he writes science articles for his family for money. So, it's not a stretch to imagine the TB to be an informant, since that's what he tries to do most of the time - inform. It's always of interest to know why some people turn against their own country and go over to the other side, but he could be a double-agent - he already admitted to having an agent of his own and his Pal, the impostorMichael Jackson, recently proclaimed to have an official proclamation to share with us. Go figure. What we don't know is how all these hippies like the TB avoided the military draft - unless maybe they had some very high connections. And, yes I have driven past many offices of the U.S. State Department - I was a military brat myself for over 18 years, including three years in Britain and three years in the Far East. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: it turns out that if you're an Israeli soldier and you get captured, your buddies have orders to bomb the area to make sure that you're dead. Obviously this is just another false flag planted by an informant working as a reporter writing another so-called science article for his parents who worked for the U.S. State Department. It turns out that if you're an Israeli soldier and you get captured, your buddies will do everything to save you, even if it means putting in danger the lives other IDF soldiers. So, when terrorists sneak into a tunnel and snatch one of your guys, under no circumstances will an IDF soldier be left behind - you will do anything possible to prevent the captors from escaping, so that they can't hide and then torture and kill and mutilate the bodies of those captured. There is going to to be hell to pay for the kidnapper terrorists. This sounds like a reasonable command in war against terrorists. In the case of capture, the main mission becomes rescuing soldiers from the captors, even at the cost of hitting or wounding other IDF soldiers. Putting an Israeli soldier's life at risk is a reasonable measure to take in order to prevent a soldier falling into the hands of Hamas or Hezbollah. 'The Hannibal Directive: Why Israel risks the life of the soldier being rescued' Haaretz, August 3, 2014 http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.608693 http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.608693
[FairfieldLife] Dan Harris: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/07/2014
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[FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... Gosh Jim, is this what TM has done for you? This reads like a first graders playground taunt. I actually feel sorry for you. The thing is, I'm quite happy in my skin and don't feel the need to aspire to being a billionaire or live in a fancy house in New York and I don't need a Ferrari penis extension - I'm happy on me bike. So sorry to disappoint you there. But I know where you get this craziness about aspirational wealth from, I used to work at the TMO's secret mansion in London where they would try to woo the great and good - as defined by them having lots of money obviously. I helped out at a few banquets where a couple of Euro royals, a Greek restaurant owner and a few city spivs were gushed and fawned over by the grovelling governors of the TMO, and all for a tawdry bit of cash. You'd have been jerking off over these people I'm sure, I found the whole thing utterly shallow and depressing, what sort of spiritual movement is this? I wondered. A completely shite one, I concluded. Here's a couple of things I think will depress you even further than your obvious need for aspirational living ought to: 1, I do TM twice a day. 2, I notice you aren't on the list, or anywhere near it. What gives Jimbo? Wouldn't they travel to the trailer park for the interview? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Science and the Meissner Effect of Consciousness as Field
Thanks for having my back Turq. As I said a couple days ago, I actually never read Willy's posts anymore so I never know what he blabbers about till someone else comments on his idiocy. It is true his accusations are scurrilous and untrue. And it may be Alex and Rick haven't commented on them because they delete his posts unread like me. I dunno how long Willy did TM or wore a Buddhist stupa on his head, but it obviously gave him mental problems. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Science and the Meissner Effect of Consciousness as Field From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Science and the Meissner Effect of Consciousness as Field On 8/6/2014 10:07 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You have no idea what effect meditation and practicing the siddhis in a large group may have. The one thing we do know is that MJ, in a trance-induction state, baked cupcakes and served them to poor students in the MIU cafeteria, resulting in at least one cult leader becoming obese. What we don't know is how much pot and hash MJ put into the confections, or if he didn't put enough. It could be that he horded most of the weed in his pod and shared it with some of the female students and plied them with cheap beer every night. It may that these are some of the reason MJ was kicked off the campus in the middle of the night and had to call his parents to get a bus ticket back to where he came from. We also know for sure that MJ didn't do much in the way of academic study at the religious school, but he may have prayed on his hands and knees inside a golden dome on a few occasions. Go figure. OK, Rick and Alex...WTF? If this isn't using Fairfield Life to smear the name, reputation and potential livelihood of another FFL poster, what is? Richard Williams is actually accusing Michael on a publicly published forum of several *Federal fucking crimes*, ferchrssakes. None of this shit ever happened, and he knows it. Yet he writes it anyway. This is the legal dictionary definition of libel. Remember back when you threw Ravi off of Fairfield Life for saying untrue things about Curtis, things that could very well harm his reputation and his ability to earn a living in the real world? That was a Good Thing. Overlooking Richard doing the same thing and worse really ISN'T a Good Thing. Just sayin'...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Suc cessful, Transcendental Meditation
that you admire crooks and men like Batali who cheat their own employees says a lot about your much ballyhooed enlightenment. From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Suc cessful, Transcendental Meditation I forgot, the rest of the world is wrong, and the three ex cult addicts are always right, about everything. Cult thinking at its best, MJ. You guys really need some therapy. The TMers on here are doing much, much better than any of the ex cult addicts, in every way; sexually, economically, and socially. BUT you three are ALWAYS RIGHT, Right?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I see your enlightenment doesn't make you immune from ignorantly admiring people for the amount of money they have. Let's see now. Ray Dalio – here is what a couple of his former employees say about him. “I was a former employee, hired to restructure the trading platform but after day 48 of listening to the mandatory morning brainwash tapes I asked Ray how long this would continue? I was told to leave for the day and upon returning my access had been revoked.“ “Dalio’s shop reminds me of Military mind fucking. Sure they’re smart, going in, a couple of years working for Dalio and the only skill they acquired- Coordinating the firms lunch menu. True story!” Says former Marine and 18-year veteran hedge fund recruiter who asked to remain anonymous. “Empathy and kindness aren’t a top priority there,” says a former Bridgewater employee. The asshole runs his hedge fund company like a cult – he learned from the TMO and Marshy. End of story. Both he and Dan Loeb are a couple of rapacious greedy crooks. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/dan-loeb-simultaneously-solicits-betrays-pension-funds-20130411 Paul McCartney smoked pot daily for 46 years and now suddenly he's stumping for David Lynch. Ringo too – they just suddenly woke up and decided to do TM again? I don't think so. Mario Batali – famous for abusing his employees. Mario Batali hands over $5 million to staff for withholding tips Mario Batali hands over $5 million to staff for withhold... Celebrity Chef Mario Batali and his partner Joseph Bastianich have agreed to hand over $5.25 million to employees at his restaurant who claim he withheld tips. View on www.dailymail.co.uk Preview by Yahoo As to the actors like Lena Dunham a bunch of them are doing it cause its trendy and it gets their names mentioned in the press. Read the rest of the article about what an idiot Hagelin looks like when he touts his shit. As to the so called successful, liars, abusers and cheats – if you admire them, you need to have your meditation checked or get your money back from the Movement. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
E-mail me - you've got my address here. mjackso...@yahoo.com How can they be doing anything about it when they adamantly claim TM is 100% life supporting. I know what kind of response they had when Mark Totten stepped in front of a train - it was their usual response - He must not have been meditating correctly. Wonder if they said that about the purusha man who set himself on fire in Marshy's basement? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, as with many of your allegations, you are very much out of date with your accusation that suicide is ignored by the TMO. If you or anyone else sincerely wants more info, then email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:59 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: its ignored by the TMO and all True Believers - if you know diff, come on and make a liar out-a me. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. From: William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: * The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. * The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. * The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL is being taken over by reformed cult addicts
and you are above us as you bitch and moan about us not being Marshy and TMO sycophants? From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL is being taken over by reformed cult addicts Nabby seems to be doing quite well - Nothing slavish in his personality, at all. You three are the ones with issues, MJ, bitching and moaning all the time, about what others are doing, that you don't like. Take your hand out of your pants, and begin some introspection. Enough jerking off about what the rest of us should do. That goes for your spouting buddies, too. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : you really are living in a dream world if you think others here on FFL don't have a slavish Marshy is god mentality - ever read the posts of Nabby? I thought enlightened people never made mistakes? From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL is being taken over by reformed cult addicts Every day, MJ and Barry and Sally, rev up and begin their testament to the rest of us, how seriously addicted to cults they were, and the rest of us need to listen to them, and not fall into the same trap. As I have mentioned before, it is only the weak minded and gullible who would give their lives over to a cult. Barry and MJ have the perfect combination of zealotry and lack of intellectual ability, to be former cult addicts. All they do is rail against the mindset they both had, that no longer exists on FFL. The rest of us are cured, but these ex cult addicts, just as they couldn't let go of their slavish adherence to the cult, no proclaim their truth for the rest of us, with the same enthusiasm and blindness that they once championed their respective cults. Funny to watch them try to cure the rest of us, of the issues that they alone face. Have at it, Barry and MJ and Sally - we're enjoying a good laugh!
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Anything to avoid his real life, which must be a real nightmare. Like Barry's, and Sally's. These three are doing their damnedest to distract themselves away from their pathetic livelihoods. Trouble is, not one is taking the bait. There is no bait, but you seem to have posted about it a dozen times today with your odd fantasy that we are a trio up to no good in your eyes. It's verging on the obsessive. I must have got under your skin in a major way. Interesting, wonder what it was that lit the touch paper for your meltdown? Oh well, if it makes you happy ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. From: William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
Great points, Ann. IMO the TMO is a wonderful, flawed, evolving organization in a beautiful, flawed, evolving universe. A person can simply use what's good and, if one wants, help heal and or develop what's still evolving. In my experience, this leads to more health and deep peace. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:08 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. This is such a complicated subject, MJ. Those who attempt suicide are complex subjects and certainly not you and maybe not even a mental health professional can always pinpoint why some people chose to take their own lives. To blame TM directly for suicides would be virtually impossible to do just as blaming a bad breakup, the loss of a job or a health crisis may not be the one and only, or even relevant factor, in why someone wants to kill themselves. Prior mental instability or psychological problems caused by chemical imbalances in the body and brain all contribute. Personality is another factor. The simplistic thinking inherent in blaming one thing only for the gargantuan decision to pull the plug on one's life is not doing anyone any favors. You are merely looking for an excuse to pin another accusation on TM for something that is multi-dimensional and extremely complex. From: William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: * The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. * The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. * The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
Better yet, Michael, if any friend of yours in FF would like to attend a meeting about these matters for the purpose of preventing such situations and improving life for all, that person can email me and I'll supply the time and place of the next meeting. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:32 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: E-mail me - you've got my address here. mjackso...@yahoo.com How can they be doing anything about it when they adamantly claim TM is 100% life supporting. I know what kind of response they had when Mark Totten stepped in front of a train - it was their usual response - He must not have been meditating correctly. Wonder if they said that about the purusha man who set himself on fire in Marshy's basement? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, as with many of your allegations, you are very much out of date with your accusation that suicide is ignored by the TMO. If you or anyone else sincerely wants more info, then email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:59 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: its ignored by the TMO and all True Believers - if you know diff, come on and make a liar out-a me. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. From: William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: * The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. * The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. * The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
Michael, all I'm saying is that wrt suicide and the TMO, your allegation that the TMO is ignoring such situations is out of date. I'd also add that the TMO is an evolving organization comprised of evolving individuals in an evolving universe. It's healthy to make use of what's beneficial in the world and if one wants, help heal and or develop what's still evolving. I don't think it's healthy to keep focused on what happened a long time ago with a non healing intention. Which is what I think you do. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:32 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: E-mail me - you've got my address here. mjackso...@yahoo.com How can they be doing anything about it when they adamantly claim TM is 100% life supporting. I know what kind of response they had when Mark Totten stepped in front of a train - it was their usual response - He must not have been meditating correctly. Wonder if they said that about the purusha man who set himself on fire in Marshy's basement? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, as with many of your allegations, you are very much out of date with your accusation that suicide is ignored by the TMO. If you or anyone else sincerely wants more info, then email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:59 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: its ignored by the TMO and all True Believers - if you know diff, come on and make a liar out-a me. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. From: William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: * The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. * The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. * The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
On 08/06/2014 10:41 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What inaccurate predictions? Most people had questions for things that really stood out in the chart. Those predictions are easy to see. Also many people just wanted to know why their life went the way it did, not necessarily predictions. I also use a lot of intuition. I bet, intuition and randomness, can be mighty impressive, even to the person pulling the scam , erm I mean casting the runes. It's a point worth remembering about cold-reading, astrology or any sort of divination. The practitioner may not be aware of what they are doing. Intuition and general knowledge of what people want to hear are behind this, the fiddling around with ephemeris is irrelevant. We ought to know that by now. The chart helps key that and gives direction. If you tie yourself down to much to rules you start making bad predictions. Exactly, it aint nothing to do with planets or stars or anything astronomical. I'm glad we finally got there Bhairitu, it was wearing me out! What! Waving the white flag already? I was only getting started. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation
salyavin, I admit I'm shocked. I figured that you no longer practice TM. Would you be willing to say why you still practice TM even though you have no contact with the TMO? On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:27 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... Gosh Jim, is this what TM has done for you? This reads like a first graders playground taunt. I actually feel sorry for you. The thing is, I'm quite happy in my skin and don't feel the need to aspire to being a billionaire or live in a fancy house in New York and I don't need a Ferrari penis extension - I'm happy on me bike. So sorry to disappoint you there. But I know where you get this craziness about aspirational wealth from, I used to work at the TMO's secret mansion in London where they would try to woo the great and good - as defined by them having lots of money obviously. I helped out at a few banquets where a couple of Euro royals, a Greek restaurant owner and a few city spivs were gushed and fawned over by the grovelling governors of the TMO, and all for a tawdry bit of cash. You'd have been jerking off over these people I'm sure, I found the whole thing utterly shallow and depressing, what sort of spiritual movement is this? I wondered. A completely shite one, I concluded. Here's a couple of things I think will depress you even further than your obvious need for aspirational living ought to: 1, I do TM twice a day. 2, I notice you aren't on the list, or anywhere near it. What gives Jimbo? Wouldn't they travel to the trailer park for the interview? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
On 08/06/2014 08:50 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Your own words - What *I get* is that from the horoscopes for people I have done the predictions played out. Not gonna stand by them now? What has that to do with the price of flour in the Deep South? You're beginning to sound like Lawson. Next you'll want to hook up astrologers to EEG machines to see what their brainwaves are like during readings. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation
Good one Sal! And thank you for the glimpse into the TM Movement's greedy workings. Was the mansion really secret? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... Gosh Jim, is this what TM has done for you? This reads like a first graders playground taunt. I actually feel sorry for you. The thing is, I'm quite happy in my skin and don't feel the need to aspire to being a billionaire or live in a fancy house in New York and I don't need a Ferrari penis extension - I'm happy on me bike. So sorry to disappoint you there. But I know where you get this craziness about aspirational wealth from, I used to work at the TMO's secret mansion in London where they would try to woo the great and good - as defined by them having lots of money obviously. I helped out at a few banquets where a couple of Euro royals, a Greek restaurant owner and a few city spivs were gushed and fawned over by the grovelling governors of the TMO, and all for a tawdry bit of cash. You'd have been jerking off over these people I'm sure, I found the whole thing utterly shallow and depressing, what sort of spiritual movement is this? I wondered. A completely shite one, I concluded. Here's a couple of things I think will depress you even further than your obvious need for aspirational living ought to: 1, I do TM twice a day. 2, I notice you aren't on the list, or anywhere near it. What gives Jimbo? Wouldn't they travel to the trailer park for the interview? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
And its Movement sponsored? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Better yet, Michael, if any friend of yours in FF would like to attend a meeting about these matters for the purpose of preventing such situations and improving life for all, that person can email me and I'll supply the time and place of the next meeting. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:32 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: E-mail me - you've got my address here. mjackso...@yahoo.com How can they be doing anything about it when they adamantly claim TM is 100% life supporting. I know what kind of response they had when Mark Totten stepped in front of a train - it was their usual response - He must not have been meditating correctly. Wonder if they said that about the purusha man who set himself on fire in Marshy's basement? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, as with many of your allegations, you are very much out of date with your accusation that suicide is ignored by the TMO. If you or anyone else sincerely wants more info, then email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:59 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: its ignored by the TMO and all True Believers - if you know diff, come on and make a liar out-a me. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. From: William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: * The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. * The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. * The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation
Michael, what do you think about the fact that salyavin still does TM twice a day? On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:58 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Good one Sal! And thank you for the glimpse into the TM Movement's greedy workings. Was the mansion really secret? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... Gosh Jim, is this what TM has done for you? This reads like a first graders playground taunt. I actually feel sorry for you. The thing is, I'm quite happy in my skin and don't feel the need to aspire to being a billionaire or live in a fancy house in New York and I don't need a Ferrari penis extension - I'm happy on me bike. So sorry to disappoint you there. But I know where you get this craziness about aspirational wealth from, I used to work at the TMO's secret mansion in London where they would try to woo the great and good - as defined by them having lots of money obviously. I helped out at a few banquets where a couple of Euro royals, a Greek restaurant owner and a few city spivs were gushed and fawned over by the grovelling governors of the TMO, and all for a tawdry bit of cash. You'd have been jerking off over these people I'm sure, I found the whole thing utterly shallow and depressing, what sort of spiritual movement is this? I wondered. A completely shite one, I concluded. Here's a couple of things I think will depress you even further than your obvious need for aspirational living ought to: 1, I do TM twice a day. 2, I notice you aren't on the list, or anywhere near it. What gives Jimbo? Wouldn't they travel to the trailer park for the interview? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
the pundit riot which proves pretty clearly to anyone with half a brain the Marshy Effect is non-existent happened back in April. The latest TM suicide in Fairfield is also must a few months old. How much time has to go by before you say Oh, we don't need to dwell on THAT anymore. Its a PATTERN Share - one that keeps repeating. If the TMO and you sycophants are willing to quote studies that prove TM is great and good that date back 40 years, be prepared to have decades old lies, theft, graft, abuse of staff and suicides to be talked about as a PATTERN of experiences and events that continue to accrue and appear in and around TM. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, all I'm saying is that wrt suicide and the TMO, your allegation that the TMO is ignoring such situations is out of date. I'd also add that the TMO is an evolving organization comprised of evolving individuals in an evolving universe. It's healthy to make use of what's beneficial in the world and if one wants, help heal and or develop what's still evolving. I don't think it's healthy to keep focused on what happened a long time ago with a non healing intention. Which is what I think you do. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:32 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: E-mail me - you've got my address here. mjackso...@yahoo.com How can they be doing anything about it when they adamantly claim TM is 100% life supporting. I know what kind of response they had when Mark Totten stepped in front of a train - it was their usual response - He must not have been meditating correctly. Wonder if they said that about the purusha man who set himself on fire in Marshy's basement? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, as with many of your allegations, you are very much out of date with your accusation that suicide is ignored by the TMO. If you or anyone else sincerely wants more info, then email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:59 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: its ignored by the TMO and all True Believers - if you know diff, come on and make a liar out-a me. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. From: William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
Michael, if your friend comes to the next meeting, they can find out for themselves and report back to you. BTW, this is how I'm choosing to respond to the out of date allegations you have made here. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:00 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And its Movement sponsored? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Better yet, Michael, if any friend of yours in FF would like to attend a meeting about these matters for the purpose of preventing such situations and improving life for all, that person can email me and I'll supply the time and place of the next meeting. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:32 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: E-mail me - you've got my address here. mjackso...@yahoo.com How can they be doing anything about it when they adamantly claim TM is 100% life supporting. I know what kind of response they had when Mark Totten stepped in front of a train - it was their usual response - He must not have been meditating correctly. Wonder if they said that about the purusha man who set himself on fire in Marshy's basement? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, as with many of your allegations, you are very much out of date with your accusation that suicide is ignored by the TMO. If you or anyone else sincerely wants more info, then email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:59 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: its ignored by the TMO and all True Believers - if you know diff, come on and make a liar out-a me. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. From: William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: * The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. * The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
Michael, I'm simply addressing one serious allegation you made that is out of date. I'm neither quoting studies nor talking about the Maharishi Effect. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:04 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: the pundit riot which proves pretty clearly to anyone with half a brain the Marshy Effect is non-existent happened back in April. The latest TM suicide in Fairfield is also must a few months old. How much time has to go by before you say Oh, we don't need to dwell on THAT anymore. Its a PATTERN Share - one that keeps repeating. If the TMO and you sycophants are willing to quote studies that prove TM is great and good that date back 40 years, be prepared to have decades old lies, theft, graft, abuse of staff and suicides to be talked about as a PATTERN of experiences and events that continue to accrue and appear in and around TM. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, all I'm saying is that wrt suicide and the TMO, your allegation that the TMO is ignoring such situations is out of date. I'd also add that the TMO is an evolving organization comprised of evolving individuals in an evolving universe. It's healthy to make use of what's beneficial in the world and if one wants, help heal and or develop what's still evolving. I don't think it's healthy to keep focused on what happened a long time ago with a non healing intention. Which is what I think you do. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:32 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: E-mail me - you've got my address here. mjackso...@yahoo.com How can they be doing anything about it when they adamantly claim TM is 100% life supporting. I know what kind of response they had when Mark Totten stepped in front of a train - it was their usual response - He must not have been meditating correctly. Wonder if they said that about the purusha man who set himself on fire in Marshy's basement? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, as with many of your allegations, you are very much out of date with your accusation that suicide is ignored by the TMO. If you or anyone else sincerely wants more info, then email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:59 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: its ignored by the TMO and all True Believers - if you know diff, come on and make a liar out-a me. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. From: William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
And with true Movement slippery-ness you are refusing to give us any info on how the Movement is dealing with ongoing suicides. Why the secrecy? Interesting in that you just took me to task for not responding to Sounds of Silence's bs. So what are the Movement's remedies to prevent suicide? More meditation? More yagyas? More money donated to the Movement? Come on Share, don't blather about it unless you are gonna come clean. I know the Movement. The Movement in fact does not evolve. They are still stuck in the vibe that the Old Fraud himself gave that TM is 10% life supporting. They can't offer a damn thing to mitigate suicides among TM'ers that works, cause you could have to cease TM to do so. Their remedies are all superstitious nonsense. So come on, prove me wrong. Are they now suggesting that depressed TM'ers go get professional non-TM help from psychiatrists? Or is it some ayurvedic mental health fakir who come from India to squirt some mango juice in their ears while chanting mantras to them, all at an exorbitant price? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, all I'm saying is that wrt suicide and the TMO, your allegation that the TMO is ignoring such situations is out of date. I'd also add that the TMO is an evolving organization comprised of evolving individuals in an evolving universe. It's healthy to make use of what's beneficial in the world and if one wants, help heal and or develop what's still evolving. I don't think it's healthy to keep focused on what happened a long time ago with a non healing intention. Which is what I think you do. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:32 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: E-mail me - you've got my address here. mjackso...@yahoo.com How can they be doing anything about it when they adamantly claim TM is 100% life supporting. I know what kind of response they had when Mark Totten stepped in front of a train - it was their usual response - He must not have been meditating correctly. Wonder if they said that about the purusha man who set himself on fire in Marshy's basement? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, as with many of your allegations, you are very much out of date with your accusation that suicide is ignored by the TMO. If you or anyone else sincerely wants more info, then email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:59 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: its ignored by the TMO and all True Believers - if you know diff, come on and make a liar out-a me. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. From: William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dueling Pirates
I'm not really fascinated with the pirate era. I only watched Crossbones to see what Malkovich brought to the series. American network television often tends to be too much just filler between commercials. Crossbones failed in the ratings and the final episodes relegated to Saturday known as a dead night in TV. I was finding myself reluctantly dragging myself to watch the last few episodes. In the meantime I've caught up on True Detectives which turned out to be an eight hour indie movie. The final season of True Blood which has gotten about as ridiculous as 24 and should have had a stake driven through it at season 4. And then we have Damon Lindelof's latest interpretation of the computer game Myst as a TV series (the game was also the inspiration for Lost) called Leftovers. Guess he never figured out how to solve the game in just a few minutes. Season 2 of Utopia shows what can be done with television. Interesting that similar themed series are popping up on places like the Lifetime channel? They've got one called The Lottery but is weak unlike their adopted Those Who Kill which for some reason as pulled from AE. Similarly the Netflix produced season 4 of The Killing was stunning and shows what can be done again if you aren't just making a show as a filler between commercials. Last night after some of that viewing I took a look at a locally produced indie film called Love, Concord which is currently available on Hulu. It's a weird film whose target market should be teens but not rated (in fact to watch it on Popcornflix where it is also playing they ask for you to prove you are 18 or older). That for just some f words. It was a bit flat arc wise but fun to watch to see recognizable local places including a gas station that I used to take my car to get smog checked. It's only a couple miles down the road from me. They also shot some scenes in downtown but those apparently went to the cutting room floor. On 08/07/2014 05:33 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think that Bhairitu and I have both mentioned the two Pirate TV series that have come out recently. For the record, I don't give a hoot whether someone prefers Crossbones (starring John Malcovich) to the earlier (and...ahem...better) series Black Sails, from STARZ. I watched both series faithfully, and enjoyed both of them immensely. But I've said since Day One of seeing Crossbones that it just wasn't up to Black Sails standards. Go figure. The viewing audiences seem to agree. Mark my words...STARZ is a creative force to be watched... Michael Bay's 'Black Sails' Gets Early Second-Season Renewal at Starz http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/michael-bays-black-sails-gets-594102 image http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/michael-bays-black-sails-gets-594102 Michael Bay's 'Black Sails' Gets Early Second-Season Ren... http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/michael-bays-black-sails-gets-594102 More than five months before its series premiere, Starz has granted an early second-season renewal to pirate drama Black Sails. The Michael Bay-produced drama will ... View on www.hollywoodrepo... http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/michael-bays-black-sails-gets-594102 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
and you are also claiming the Movement is addressing TM suicides in a meaningful way yet in usual slippery Movement fashion refusing to give details. If they are doing so, its the first time in nearly 60 years - so come on give, what's the deal, or is it, as so much of TM baloney is, considered confidential? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, I'm simply addressing one serious allegation you made that is out of date. I'm neither quoting studies nor talking about the Maharishi Effect. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:04 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: the pundit riot which proves pretty clearly to anyone with half a brain the Marshy Effect is non-existent happened back in April. The latest TM suicide in Fairfield is also must a few months old. How much time has to go by before you say Oh, we don't need to dwell on THAT anymore. Its a PATTERN Share - one that keeps repeating. If the TMO and you sycophants are willing to quote studies that prove TM is great and good that date back 40 years, be prepared to have decades old lies, theft, graft, abuse of staff and suicides to be talked about as a PATTERN of experiences and events that continue to accrue and appear in and around TM. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, all I'm saying is that wrt suicide and the TMO, your allegation that the TMO is ignoring such situations is out of date. I'd also add that the TMO is an evolving organization comprised of evolving individuals in an evolving universe. It's healthy to make use of what's beneficial in the world and if one wants, help heal and or develop what's still evolving. I don't think it's healthy to keep focused on what happened a long time ago with a non healing intention. Which is what I think you do. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:32 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: E-mail me - you've got my address here. mjackso...@yahoo.com How can they be doing anything about it when they adamantly claim TM is 100% life supporting. I know what kind of response they had when Mark Totten stepped in front of a train - it was their usual response - He must not have been meditating correctly. Wonder if they said that about the purusha man who set himself on fire in Marshy's basement? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, as with many of your allegations, you are very much out of date with your accusation that suicide is ignored by the TMO. If you or anyone else sincerely wants more info, then email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:59 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: its ignored by the TMO and all True Believers - if you know diff, come on and make a liar out-a me. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
Michael, how I am responding here is totally my choice. And the meetings I am referring to are open to the public. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:15 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: and you are also claiming the Movement is addressing TM suicides in a meaningful way yet in usual slippery Movement fashion refusing to give details. If they are doing so, its the first time in nearly 60 years - so come on give, what's the deal, or is it, as so much of TM baloney is, considered confidential? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, I'm simply addressing one serious allegation you made that is out of date. I'm neither quoting studies nor talking about the Maharishi Effect. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:04 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: the pundit riot which proves pretty clearly to anyone with half a brain the Marshy Effect is non-existent happened back in April. The latest TM suicide in Fairfield is also must a few months old. How much time has to go by before you say Oh, we don't need to dwell on THAT anymore. Its a PATTERN Share - one that keeps repeating. If the TMO and you sycophants are willing to quote studies that prove TM is great and good that date back 40 years, be prepared to have decades old lies, theft, graft, abuse of staff and suicides to be talked about as a PATTERN of experiences and events that continue to accrue and appear in and around TM. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, all I'm saying is that wrt suicide and the TMO, your allegation that the TMO is ignoring such situations is out of date. I'd also add that the TMO is an evolving organization comprised of evolving individuals in an evolving universe. It's healthy to make use of what's beneficial in the world and if one wants, help heal and or develop what's still evolving. I don't think it's healthy to keep focused on what happened a long time ago with a non healing intention. Which is what I think you do. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:32 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: E-mail me - you've got my address here. mjackso...@yahoo.com How can they be doing anything about it when they adamantly claim TM is 100% life supporting. I know what kind of response they had when Mark Totten stepped in front of a train - it was their usual response - He must not have been meditating correctly. Wonder if they said that about the purusha man who set himself on fire in Marshy's basement? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, as with many of your allegations, you are very much out of date with your accusation that suicide is ignored by the TMO. If you or anyone else sincerely wants more info, then email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:59 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: its ignored by the TMO and all True Believers - if you know diff, come on and make a liar out-a me. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
You guys aren't up to anything, no good, or otherwise. Just bitching about this TMO stuff, to distract from the lack of anything going on in your personal lives. Have at it - we are enjoying the show! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Anything to avoid his real life, which must be a real nightmare. Like Barry's, and Sally's. These three are doing their damnedest to distract themselves away from their pathetic livelihoods. Trouble is, not one is taking the bait. There is no bait, but you seem to have posted about it a dozen times today with your odd fantasy that we are a trio up to no good in your eyes. It's verging on the obsessive. I must have got under your skin in a major way. Interesting, wonder what it was that lit the touch paper for your meltdown? Oh well, if it makes you happy ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. From: William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL is being taken over by reformed cult addicts
Is your hand getting sore yet? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : and you are above us as you bitch and moan about us not being Marshy and TMO sycophants? From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL is being taken over by reformed cult addicts Nabby seems to be doing quite well - Nothing slavish in his personality, at all. You three are the ones with issues, MJ, bitching and moaning all the time, about what others are doing, that you don't like. Take your hand out of your pants, and begin some introspection. Enough jerking off about what the rest of us should do. That goes for your spouting buddies, too. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : you really are living in a dream world if you think others here on FFL don't have a slavish Marshy is god mentality - ever read the posts of Nabby? I thought enlightened people never made mistakes? From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL is being taken over by reformed cult addicts Every day, MJ and Barry and Sally, rev up and begin their testament to the rest of us, how seriously addicted to cults they were, and the rest of us need to listen to them, and not fall into the same trap. As I have mentioned before, it is only the weak minded and gullible who would give their lives over to a cult. Barry and MJ have the perfect combination of zealotry and lack of intellectual ability, to be former cult addicts. All they do is rail against the mindset they both had, that no longer exists on FFL. The rest of us are cured, but these ex cult addicts, just as they couldn't let go of their slavish adherence to the cult, no proclaim their truth for the rest of us, with the same enthusiasm and blindness that they once championed their respective cults. Funny to watch them try to cure the rest of us, of the issues that they alone face. Have at it, Barry and MJ and Sally - we're enjoying a good laugh!
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
Michael, how I am replying is totally my choice and is based to a large extent on the tone of your posts here, including this one. I think you are stuck in the past about the TMO. More importantly, I don't think you welcome good news about the TMO. But you are welcome to come to one of the public meetings I'm referring to and find out for yourself. That is, if you are sincerely interested in improving situations. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:10 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And with true Movement slippery-ness you are refusing to give us any info on how the Movement is dealing with ongoing suicides. Why the secrecy? Interesting in that you just took me to task for not responding to Sounds of Silence's bs. So what are the Movement's remedies to prevent suicide? More meditation? More yagyas? More money donated to the Movement? Come on Share, don't blather about it unless you are gonna come clean. I know the Movement. The Movement in fact does not evolve. They are still stuck in the vibe that the Old Fraud himself gave that TM is 10% life supporting. They can't offer a damn thing to mitigate suicides among TM'ers that works, cause you could have to cease TM to do so. Their remedies are all superstitious nonsense. So come on, prove me wrong. Are they now suggesting that depressed TM'ers go get professional non-TM help from psychiatrists? Or is it some ayurvedic mental health fakir who come from India to squirt some mango juice in their ears while chanting mantras to them, all at an exorbitant price? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, all I'm saying is that wrt suicide and the TMO, your allegation that the TMO is ignoring such situations is out of date. I'd also add that the TMO is an evolving organization comprised of evolving individuals in an evolving universe. It's healthy to make use of what's beneficial in the world and if one wants, help heal and or develop what's still evolving. I don't think it's healthy to keep focused on what happened a long time ago with a non healing intention. Which is what I think you do. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:32 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: E-mail me - you've got my address here. mjackso...@yahoo.com How can they be doing anything about it when they adamantly claim TM is 100% life supporting. I know what kind of response they had when Mark Totten stepped in front of a train - it was their usual response - He must not have been meditating correctly. Wonder if they said that about the purusha man who set himself on fire in Marshy's basement? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, as with many of your allegations, you are very much out of date with your accusation that suicide is ignored by the TMO. If you or anyone else sincerely wants more info, then email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:59 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: its ignored by the TMO and all True Believers - if you know diff, come on and make a liar out-a me. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Suc cessful, Transcendental Meditation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Good one Sal! And thank you for the glimpse into the TM Movement's greedy workings. Was the mansion really secret? Not many knew about it, to keep just anyone from turning up. There are plenty of centres in London to go for prog. The building was amazing, it was left to the TMO by a businessman and had a few years left on the lease so they put it to suitable use. It was opposite Kensington palace, if only we'd had rajas then, we could have popped over the road and swapped crown cleaning tips. Funny thing was it faced due east which was a big bonus to them, the only properly east facing building in the UK TMO at the time. You can feel the positive vibes they said. I found out later it was previously owned by the ministry of defence and it was where they took captured Gestapo officers for interrogation during WW2. LOL, I wonder if they noticed the effect of good vastu! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... Gosh Jim, is this what TM has done for you? This reads like a first graders playground taunt. I actually feel sorry for you. The thing is, I'm quite happy in my skin and don't feel the need to aspire to being a billionaire or live in a fancy house in New York and I don't need a Ferrari penis extension - I'm happy on me bike. So sorry to disappoint you there. But I know where you get this craziness about aspirational wealth from, I used to work at the TMO's secret mansion in London where they would try to woo the great and good - as defined by them having lots of money obviously. I helped out at a few banquets where a couple of Euro royals, a Greek restaurant owner and a few city spivs were gushed and fawned over by the grovelling governors of the TMO, and all for a tawdry bit of cash. You'd have been jerking off over these people I'm sure, I found the whole thing utterly shallow and depressing, what sort of spiritual movement is this? I wondered. A completely shite one, I concluded. Here's a couple of things I think will depress you even further than your obvious need for aspirational living ought to: 1, I do TM twice a day. 2, I notice you aren't on the list, or anywhere near it. What gives Jimbo? Wouldn't they travel to the trailer park for the interview? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Just bitching about this TMO stuff, to distract from the lack of anything going on in your personal lives. Yet another strange statement, is this projection? Feel free to answer in a rational way. If you still can. Have at it - we are enjoying the show! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Anything to avoid his real life, which must be a real nightmare. Like Barry's, and Sally's. These three are doing their damnedest to distract themselves away from their pathetic livelihoods. Trouble is, not one is taking the bait. There is no bait, but you seem to have posted about it a dozen times today with your odd fantasy that we are a trio up to no good in your eyes. It's verging on the obsessive. I must have got under your skin in a major way. Interesting, wonder what it was that lit the touch paper for your meltdown? Oh well, if it makes you happy ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. From: William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
so how do I find out about them? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, how I am replying is totally my choice and is based to a large extent on the tone of your posts here, including this one. I think you are stuck in the past about the TMO. More importantly, I don't think you welcome good news about the TMO. But you are welcome to come to one of the public meetings I'm referring to and find out for yourself. That is, if you are sincerely interested in improving situations. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:10 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And with true Movement slippery-ness you are refusing to give us any info on how the Movement is dealing with ongoing suicides. Why the secrecy? Interesting in that you just took me to task for not responding to Sounds of Silence's bs. So what are the Movement's remedies to prevent suicide? More meditation? More yagyas? More money donated to the Movement? Come on Share, don't blather about it unless you are gonna come clean. I know the Movement. The Movement in fact does not evolve. They are still stuck in the vibe that the Old Fraud himself gave that TM is 10% life supporting. They can't offer a damn thing to mitigate suicides among TM'ers that works, cause you could have to cease TM to do so. Their remedies are all superstitious nonsense. So come on, prove me wrong. Are they now suggesting that depressed TM'ers go get professional non-TM help from psychiatrists? Or is it some ayurvedic mental health fakir who come from India to squirt some mango juice in their ears while chanting mantras to them, all at an exorbitant price? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, all I'm saying is that wrt suicide and the TMO, your allegation that the TMO is ignoring such situations is out of date. I'd also add that the TMO is an evolving organization comprised of evolving individuals in an evolving universe. It's healthy to make use of what's beneficial in the world and if one wants, help heal and or develop what's still evolving. I don't think it's healthy to keep focused on what happened a long time ago with a non healing intention. Which is what I think you do. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:32 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: E-mail me - you've got my address here. mjackso...@yahoo.com How can they be doing anything about it when they adamantly claim TM is 100% life supporting. I know what kind of response they had when Mark Totten stepped in front of a train - it was their usual response - He must not have been meditating correctly. Wonder if they said that about the purusha man who set himself on fire in Marshy's basement? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, as with many of your allegations, you are very much out of date with your accusation that suicide is ignored by the TMO. If you or anyone else sincerely wants more info, then email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:59 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: its ignored by the TMO and all True Believers - if you know diff, come on and make a liar out-a me. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation
I think several things about it. I think its fine. I think he is stable enough that he doesn't let it rot his brain or turn himself into a grinning sycophant who leaps up out of his chair if a raja were to enter a room he might be sitting in. I think Sal's innate Scorpion nature might give him some protection from becoming a bliss ninny. I think its his business and none of mine. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation Michael, what do you think about the fact that salyavin still does TM twice a day? On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:58 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Good one Sal! And thank you for the glimpse into the TM Movement's greedy workings. Was the mansion really secret? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... Gosh Jim, is this what TM has done for you? This reads like a first graders playground taunt. I actually feel sorry for you. The thing is, I'm quite happy in my skin and don't feel the need to aspire to being a billionaire or live in a fancy house in New York and I don't need a Ferrari penis extension - I'm happy on me bike. So sorry to disappoint you there. But I know where you get this craziness about aspirational wealth from, I used to work at the TMO's secret mansion in London where they would try to woo the great and good - as defined by them having lots of money obviously. I helped out at a few banquets where a couple of Euro royals, a Greek restaurant owner and a few city spivs were gushed and fawned over by the grovelling governors of the TMO, and all for a tawdry bit of cash. You'd have been jerking off over these people I'm sure, I found the whole thing utterly shallow and depressing, what sort of spiritual movement is this? I wondered. A completely shite one, I concluded. Here's a couple of things I think will depress you even further than your obvious need for aspirational living ought to: 1, I do TM twice a day. 2, I notice you aren't on the list, or anywhere near it. What gives Jimbo? Wouldn't they travel to the trailer park for the interview? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successfu l, Transcendental Meditation
Good for you - keep up the TM. As for your cult addiction, please see a therapist. Note to you and the other wankers: The TMO is not perfect. Why you all hold that organization to such a high standard, looks like a cult addict's withdrawal symptoms, to me, and others, on here. It hurts to have become such spiritual zombies, I am sure, but you aren't getting anywhere, trying to convince the rest of us, that we are as screwed up as you, and the other two, are. Cult addiction is serious business, and you won't be able to cure that addiction by externalizing it. Barry has been trying that technique for twenty years, and look how far it has gotten him. Best of luck, though. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... Gosh Jim, is this what TM has done for you? This reads like a first graders playground taunt. I actually feel sorry for you. The thing is, I'm quite happy in my skin and don't feel the need to aspire to being a billionaire or live in a fancy house in New York and I don't need a Ferrari penis extension - I'm happy on me bike. So sorry to disappoint you there. But I know where you get this craziness about aspirational wealth from, I used to work at the TMO's secret mansion in London where they would try to woo the great and good - as defined by them having lots of money obviously. I helped out at a few banquets where a couple of Euro royals, a Greek restaurant owner and a few city spivs were gushed and fawned over by the grovelling governors of the TMO, and all for a tawdry bit of cash. You'd have been jerking off over these people I'm sure, I found the whole thing utterly shallow and depressing, what sort of spiritual movement is this? I wondered. A completely shite one, I concluded. Here's a couple of things I think will depress you even further than your obvious need for aspirational living ought to: 1, I do TM twice a day. 2, I notice you aren't on the list, or anywhere near it. What gives Jimbo? Wouldn't they travel to the trailer park for the interview? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Suc cessful, Transcendental Meditation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I think several things about it. I think its fine. It's mostly fine, with discipline I can get into a nice steady state, especially if I do asanas first. I do mindfulness too on occasion, I got some great techniques out of a book, real close to nature stuff, I do it when I'm lying in a field, it increases the awareness so all the stuff you thought you were aware of suddenly comes alive and it feels like you've melted into the world of wind and insects and birdsong. It's like the world was there but you didn't notice it, take the veil off and see reality big time. Just did some on a bike ride today actually, hence the enthusiasm! Better not tell anyone in the TMO though, they'd rather you think it's all straining and whatever... I think he is stable enough that he doesn't let it rot his brain or turn himself into a grinning sycophant who leaps up out of his chair if a raja were to enter a room he might be sitting in. I think my brain rotted years ago, but I wouldn't be in a situation where a raja was about to enter the room. That was the final and complete end of it for me. I do not need a king, real or imaginary. I am not a cult member. I think Sal's innate Scorpion nature might give him some protection from becoming a bliss ninny. I think its his business and none of mine. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation Michael, what do you think about the fact that salyavin still does TM twice a day? On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:58 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Good one Sal! And thank you for the glimpse into the TM Movement's greedy workings. Was the mansion really secret? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... Gosh Jim, is this what TM has done for you? This reads like a first graders playground taunt. I actually feel sorry for you. The thing is, I'm quite happy in my skin and don't feel the need to aspire to being a billionaire or live in a fancy house in New York and I don't need a Ferrari penis extension - I'm happy on me bike. So sorry to disappoint you there. But I know where you get this craziness about aspirational wealth from, I used to work at the TMO's secret mansion in London where they would try to woo the great and good - as defined by them having lots of money obviously. I helped out at a few banquets where a couple of Euro royals, a Greek restaurant owner and a few city spivs were gushed and fawned over by the grovelling governors of the TMO, and all for a tawdry bit of cash. You'd have been jerking off over these people I'm sure, I found the whole thing utterly shallow and depressing, what sort of spiritual movement is this? I wondered. A completely shite one, I concluded. Here's a couple of things I think will depress you even further than your obvious need for aspirational living ought to: 1, I do TM twice a day. 2, I notice you aren't on the list, or anywhere near it. What gives Jimbo? Wouldn't they travel to the trailer park for the interview? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
On 08/07/2014 06:49 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Exactly, it aint nothing to do with planets or stars or anything astronomical. I'm glad we finally got there Bhairitu, it was wearing me out! Exactly what I said earlier. Yes, I was going to let your previous post be the last word but I can't help myself, that hornets nest is just begging to be kicked ;-) The chart does absolutely NOTHING but trigger the supposed astrologer's intuition or bullshittery. If they're actually intuitive, they'll get a few random hits on future events, if they're mainly bullshitters, they won't. But not a word of it will ever have anything to do with the positions of the planets. Shame Bhairitu never took up my challenge of doing a chart and making some predictions years ago, would have been fun as he claims to have a 100% success rate. Don't suppose it would work now Well, we have a test prediction now. JR hath proclaimed: Ann and everyone I just did a prasna about Judy's status. The chart shows that Judy might have gotten in an accident, either in her car or a house fire. She may have injured her lungs or knees in the process. The accident is serious and may still be in the hospital. I suspect that this exercise in bullshittery will put an end to JR's credibility, but not his predictions. :-) Or is this the gomer convention? Or an episode with Larry, Moe and Curly?
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
Exactly right. It is these unbalanced individuals who are confused, thinking that the TMO and Maharishi were some sort of perfection that they could glom onto and become perfect, too. Sadly, their lives and karma interceded, and rather than be responsible, they are forever angry at the TMO and Maharishi, much as little children don't understand the consequences of their actions, and throw tantrums, instead. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Great points, Ann. IMO the TMO is a wonderful, flawed, evolving organization in a beautiful, flawed, evolving universe. A person can simply use what's good and, if one wants, help heal and or develop what's still evolving. In my experience, this leads to more health and deep peace. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:08 AM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. This is such a complicated subject, MJ. Those who attempt suicide are complex subjects and certainly not you and maybe not even a mental health professional can always pinpoint why some people chose to take their own lives. To blame TM directly for suicides would be virtually impossible to do just as blaming a bad breakup, the loss of a job or a health crisis may not be the one and only, or even relevant factor, in why someone wants to kill themselves. Prior mental instability or psychological problems caused by chemical imbalances in the body and brain all contribute. Personality is another factor. The simplistic thinking inherent in blaming one thing only for the gargantuan decision to pull the plug on one's life is not doing anyone any favors. You are merely looking for an excuse to pin another accusation on TM for something that is multi-dimensional and extremely complex. From: William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Suc cessful, Transcendental Meditation
Oh man! I laughed like hell when I saw the poster a Pint and a fight! What book did you get the techniques out of if I may inquire? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Suc cessful, Transcendental Meditation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I think several things about it. I think its fine. It's mostly fine, with discipline I can get into a nice steady state, especially if I do asanas first. I do mindfulness too on occasion, I got some great techniques out of a book, real close to nature stuff, I do it when I'm lying in a field, it increases the awareness so all the stuff you thought you were aware of suddenly comes alive and it feels like you've melted into the world of wind and insects and birdsong. It's like the world was there but you didn't notice it, take the veil off and see reality big time. Just did some on a bike ride today actually, hence the enthusiasm! Better not tell anyone in the TMO though, they'd rather you think it's all straining and whatever... I think he is stable enough that he doesn't let it rot his brain or turn himself into a grinning sycophant who leaps up out of his chair if a raja were to enter a room he might be sitting in. I think my brain rotted years ago, but I wouldn't be in a situation where a raja was about to enter the room. That was the final and complete end of it for me. I do not need a king, real or imaginary. I am not a cult member. I think Sal's innate Scorpion nature might give him some protection from becoming a bliss ninny. I think its his business and none of mine. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation Michael, what do you think about the fact that salyavin still does TM twice a day? On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:58 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Good one Sal! And thank you for the glimpse into the TM Movement's greedy workings. Was the mansion really secret? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... Gosh Jim, is this what TM has done for you? This reads like a first graders playground taunt. I actually feel sorry for you. The thing is, I'm quite happy in my skin and don't feel the need to aspire to being a billionaire or live in a fancy house in New York and I don't need a Ferrari penis extension - I'm happy on me bike. So sorry to disappoint you there. But I know where you get this craziness about aspirational wealth from, I used to work at the TMO's secret mansion in London where they would try to woo the great and good - as defined by them having lots of money obviously. I helped out at a few banquets where a couple of Euro royals, a Greek restaurant owner and a few city spivs were gushed and fawned over by the grovelling governors of the TMO, and all for a tawdry bit of cash. You'd have been jerking off over these people I'm sure, I found the whole thing utterly shallow and depressing, what sort of spiritual movement is this? I wondered. A completely shite one, I concluded. Here's a couple of things I think will depress you even further than your obvious need for aspirational living ought to: 1, I do TM twice a day. 2, I notice you aren't on the list, or anywhere near it. What gives Jimbo? Wouldn't they travel to the trailer park for the interview? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 08/06/2014 10:41 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Exactly, it aint nothing to do with planets or stars or anything astronomical. I'm glad we finally got there Bhairitu, it was wearing me out! What! Waving the white flag already? I was only getting started. :-D Oh, OK then, I'm always game. Here's a thought experiment: Ted Bundy, serial killer and obvious psychopath and nasty piece of work. What sort of chart would he have had? Surely his pathology would be visible astrologically, and if it was could we predict who was going to be a mass murderer from their chart? If not, why not? And if we can, how many days or whatever later/earlier would he have to be born to not be so pathologically affected? (For the oversensitive among us, this is a debate and not an attempt to change Bhairitu's mind about anything. Not that I could...)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation
To summarize thus far, of the three most vocal anti TMO people here: one of them practices TM twice a day another one thinks that's fine As Richard might say: go figger and you can't make this stuff up! On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:32 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think several things about it. I think its fine. I think he is stable enough that he doesn't let it rot his brain or turn himself into a grinning sycophant who leaps up out of his chair if a raja were to enter a room he might be sitting in. I think Sal's innate Scorpion nature might give him some protection from becoming a bliss ninny. I think its his business and none of mine. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation Michael, what do you think about the fact that salyavin still does TM twice a day? On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:58 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Good one Sal! And thank you for the glimpse into the TM Movement's greedy workings. Was the mansion really secret? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... Gosh Jim, is this what TM has done for you? This reads like a first graders playground taunt. I actually feel sorry for you. The thing is, I'm quite happy in my skin and don't feel the need to aspire to being a billionaire or live in a fancy house in New York and I don't need a Ferrari penis extension - I'm happy on me bike. So sorry to disappoint you there. But I know where you get this craziness about aspirational wealth from, I used to work at the TMO's secret mansion in London where they would try to woo the great and good - as defined by them having lots of money obviously. I helped out at a few banquets where a couple of Euro royals, a Greek restaurant owner and a few city spivs were gushed and fawned over by the grovelling governors of the TMO, and all for a tawdry bit of cash. You'd have been jerking off over these people I'm sure, I found the whole thing utterly shallow and depressing, what sort of spiritual movement is this? I wondered. A completely shite one, I concluded. Here's a couple of things I think will depress you even further than your obvious need for aspirational living ought to: 1, I do TM twice a day. 2, I notice you aren't on the list, or anywhere near it. What gives Jimbo? Wouldn't they travel to the trailer park for the interview? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Suc cessful, Transcendental Meditation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh man! I laughed like hell when I saw the poster a Pint and a fight! What book did you get the techniques out of if I may inquire? All this sort of foolishness I get from Viz, the comic for people who should have grown up years ago... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Suc cessful, Transcendental Meditation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I think several things about it. I think its fine. It's mostly fine, with discipline I can get into a nice steady state, especially if I do asanas first. I do mindfulness too on occasion, I got some great techniques out of a book, real close to nature stuff, I do it when I'm lying in a field, it increases the awareness so all the stuff you thought you were aware of suddenly comes alive and it feels like you've melted into the world of wind and insects and birdsong. It's like the world was there but you didn't notice it, take the veil off and see reality big time. Just did some on a bike ride today actually, hence the enthusiasm! Better not tell anyone in the TMO though, they'd rather you think it's all straining and whatever... I think he is stable enough that he doesn't let it rot his brain or turn himself into a grinning sycophant who leaps up out of his chair if a raja were to enter a room he might be sitting in. I think my brain rotted years ago, but I wouldn't be in a situation where a raja was about to enter the room. That was the final and complete end of it for me. I do not need a king, real or imaginary. I am not a cult member. I think Sal's innate Scorpion nature might give him some protection from becoming a bliss ninny. I think its his business and none of mine. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation Michael, what do you think about the fact that salyavin still does TM twice a day? On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:58 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Good one Sal! And thank you for the glimpse into the TM Movement's greedy workings. Was the mansion really secret? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... Gosh Jim, is this what TM has done for you? This reads like a first graders playground taunt. I actually feel sorry for you. The thing is, I'm quite happy in my skin and don't feel the need to aspire to being a billionaire or live in a fancy house in New York and I don't need a Ferrari penis extension - I'm happy on me bike. So sorry to disappoint you there. But I know where you get this craziness about aspirational wealth from, I used to work at the TMO's secret mansion in London where they would try to woo the great and good - as defined by them having lots of money obviously. I helped out at a few banquets where a couple of Euro royals, a Greek restaurant owner and a few city spivs were gushed and fawned over by the grovelling governors of the TMO, and all for a tawdry bit of cash. You'd have been jerking off over these people I'm sure, I found the whole thing utterly shallow and depressing, what sort of spiritual movement is this? I wondered. A completely shite one, I concluded. Here's a couple of things I think will depress you even further than your obvious need for aspirational living ought to: 1, I do TM twice a day. 2, I notice you aren't on the list, or anywhere near it. What gives Jimbo? Wouldn't they travel to the trailer park for the interview? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
I found out from friends who know of my interest in helping improve the situation. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:38 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: so how do I find out about them? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, how I am replying is totally my choice and is based to a large extent on the tone of your posts here, including this one. I think you are stuck in the past about the TMO. More importantly, I don't think you welcome good news about the TMO. But you are welcome to come to one of the public meetings I'm referring to and find out for yourself. That is, if you are sincerely interested in improving situations. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:10 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And with true Movement slippery-ness you are refusing to give us any info on how the Movement is dealing with ongoing suicides. Why the secrecy? Interesting in that you just took me to task for not responding to Sounds of Silence's bs. So what are the Movement's remedies to prevent suicide? More meditation? More yagyas? More money donated to the Movement? Come on Share, don't blather about it unless you are gonna come clean. I know the Movement. The Movement in fact does not evolve. They are still stuck in the vibe that the Old Fraud himself gave that TM is 10% life supporting. They can't offer a damn thing to mitigate suicides among TM'ers that works, cause you could have to cease TM to do so. Their remedies are all superstitious nonsense. So come on, prove me wrong. Are they now suggesting that depressed TM'ers go get professional non-TM help from psychiatrists? Or is it some ayurvedic mental health fakir who come from India to squirt some mango juice in their ears while chanting mantras to them, all at an exorbitant price? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, all I'm saying is that wrt suicide and the TMO, your allegation that the TMO is ignoring such situations is out of date. I'd also add that the TMO is an evolving organization comprised of evolving individuals in an evolving universe. It's healthy to make use of what's beneficial in the world and if one wants, help heal and or develop what's still evolving. I don't think it's healthy to keep focused on what happened a long time ago with a non healing intention. Which is what I think you do. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:32 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: E-mail me - you've got my address here. mjackso...@yahoo.com How can they be doing anything about it when they adamantly claim TM is 100% life supporting. I know what kind of response they had when Mark Totten stepped in front of a train - it was their usual response - He must not have been meditating correctly. Wonder if they said that about the purusha man who set himself on fire in Marshy's basement? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael, as with many of your allegations, you are very much out of date with your accusation that suicide is ignored by the TMO. If you or anyone else sincerely wants more info, then email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:59 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: its ignored by the TMO and all True Believers - if you know diff, come on and make a liar out-a me. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Suc cessful, Transcendental Meditation
Barry has also said in the past that he finds nothing wrong with TM, and sometimes does it himself. Given his relentless criticism of the technique, it conjures up the unmistakable image of an old man, punching himself in the face. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : To summarize thus far, of the three most vocal anti TMO people here: one of them practices TM twice a day another one thinks that's fine As Richard might say: go figger and you can't make this stuff up! On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:32 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think several things about it. I think its fine. I think he is stable enough that he doesn't let it rot his brain or turn himself into a grinning sycophant who leaps up out of his chair if a raja were to enter a room he might be sitting in. I think Sal's innate Scorpion nature might give him some protection from becoming a bliss ninny. I think its his business and none of mine. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation Michael, what do you think about the fact that salyavin still does TM twice a day? On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:58 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Good one Sal! And thank you for the glimpse into the TM Movement's greedy workings. Was the mansion really secret? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... Gosh Jim, is this what TM has done for you? This reads like a first graders playground taunt. I actually feel sorry for you. The thing is, I'm quite happy in my skin and don't feel the need to aspire to being a billionaire or live in a fancy house in New York and I don't need a Ferrari penis extension - I'm happy on me bike. So sorry to disappoint you there. But I know where you get this craziness about aspirational wealth from, I used to work at the TMO's secret mansion in London where they would try to woo the great and good - as defined by them having lots of money obviously. I helped out at a few banquets where a couple of Euro royals, a Greek restaurant owner and a few city spivs were gushed and fawned over by the grovelling governors of the TMO, and all for a tawdry bit of cash. You'd have been jerking off over these people I'm sure, I found the whole thing utterly shallow and depressing, what sort of spiritual movement is this? I wondered. A completely shite one, I concluded. Here's a couple of things I think will depress you even further than your obvious need for aspirational living ought to: 1, I do TM twice a day. 2, I notice you aren't on the list, or anywhere near it. What gives Jimbo? Wouldn't they travel to the trailer park for the interview? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
On 8/7/2014 9:36 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. So, you're going to blame everything on a few Indian pundit boys. Go figure. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. Let's hope you don't do something rash - you were deep inside the TMO cult for over ten years, so maybe you were on the dark side as well. It sure looks like you got into a very powerful trance-induction state. Probably everyone would agree that being forced to work in a kitchen and live alone inside a pod for two years is probably very traumatic. Especially when you can't escape and you have no friends and no money and you are you coerced into getting down on your hands and knees and praying twice a day in a golden dome and made to listen to propaganda tapes for hours on end. Gawd! The question is, if you in the cult that long and that deep, why haven't you tried to get help, like just getting some advice from a cult-exit counselor? You sound like a /time-bomb/ about to go off at any time. We can only help you so much on an internet chat room like this, so you should probably try to get some professional help before it's too late. Don't do it - get help NOW! *From:* William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: * The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. * The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. * The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
On 8/7/2014 9:46 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. There's been what, 5 million people all over the world that have tried TM without any bad effects? Based on what Michael has claimed, we should all be on the verge of suicide at any minute! Just for the record, there is not a single scientific blind study that proves that TM practice caused any adverse effects on anyone. Not a single one - if there were Michael would have posted the link so we could all go and read it and decide for ourselves. It's just logical that anything adverse would be the result of a precondition and not caused by simple relaxation practice. Go figure. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. *From:* William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: * The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. * The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. * The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it
On 8/7/2014 9:56 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: its ignored by the TMO and all True Believers - if you know diff, come on and make a liar out-a me. The burden of proof is on you to prove that TM is the cause of any adverse effects. Just go ahead and post the links to the double-blind scientific studies that have been published in peer-reviewed journals. What are you waiting for? Do we have to do everything for you? Put up or close your big pie hole. It's that simple. *From:* Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:46 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. *From:* William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well 4 as many of my troops who learned it continue to so practice it. I a very few have joined various WPS groups to more fully spread what we believe in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally those about me then. -Original Message- From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... Several other points need to made on this subject: * The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. * The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. * The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Suc cessful, Transcendental Meditation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Barry has also said in the past that he finds nothing wrong with TM, and sometimes does it himself. Given his relentless criticism of the technique, it conjures up the unmistakable image of an old man, punching himself in the face. Your fantasies are becoming detached from reality, I remember both Barry's saying that TMO was okay - as a starter technique - but that they had moved on to other, and better techniques. This stuff is easy to remember - I managed it - why colour it with something that wasn't there? It's like you're just looking for stuff to add to your cathedral of hate and don't care if it's true or not. All apologies to the Barry's for getting in first... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : To summarize thus far, of the three most vocal anti TMO people here: one of them practices TM twice a day another one thinks that's fine As Richard might say: go figger and you can't make this stuff up! On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:32 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think several things about it. I think its fine. I think he is stable enough that he doesn't let it rot his brain or turn himself into a grinning sycophant who leaps up out of his chair if a raja were to enter a room he might be sitting in. I think Sal's innate Scorpion nature might give him some protection from becoming a bliss ninny. I think its his business and none of mine. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation Michael, what do you think about the fact that salyavin still does TM twice a day? On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:58 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Good one Sal! And thank you for the glimpse into the TM Movement's greedy workings. Was the mansion really secret? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New York’s Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Hey Barry, MJ and Sally, can any of you hold a candle to any of these people, all practicing the technique of TM, that sends each of you into an apoplectic fit? Didn't think so... Gosh Jim, is this what TM has done for you? This reads like a first graders playground taunt. I actually feel sorry for you. The thing is, I'm quite happy in my skin and don't feel the need to aspire to being a billionaire or live in a fancy house in New York and I don't need a Ferrari penis extension - I'm happy on me bike. So sorry to disappoint you there. But I know where you get this craziness about aspirational wealth from, I used to work at the TMO's secret mansion in London where they would try to woo the great and good - as defined by them having lots of money obviously. I helped out at a few banquets where a couple of Euro royals, a Greek restaurant owner and a few city spivs were gushed and fawned over by the grovelling governors of the TMO, and all for a tawdry bit of cash. You'd have been jerking off over these people I'm sure, I found the whole thing utterly shallow and depressing, what sort of spiritual movement is this? I wondered. A completely shite one, I concluded. Here's a couple of things I think will depress you even further than your obvious need for aspirational living ought to: 1, I do TM twice a day. 2, I notice you aren't on the list, or anywhere near it. What gives Jimbo? Wouldn't they travel to the trailer park for the interview? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental Meditation http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ For Some of New York's Most Successful, Transcendental... http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ TM enthusiasts include billionaire hedge funder Dan Loeb, chef Mario Batali, social dragonfly Arianna Huffington, Cy Young Award-winner Barry Zito, and ... View on observer.com http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/ Preview by Yahoo http://observer.com/2014/08/for-some-of-new-yorks-most-successful-transcendental-meditation/