Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

Suppose we made up a fake and derivative religion, telling people that there is 
a field of force that we are immersed in, called 'Dada'. And we tell people it 
is possible to experience this field if we put all our attention on sensing it, 
day and night. We tell them that after some time one can experience, say, 'Dada 
stage 1', which is the experience of silence at night while asleep. Now it 
seems possible that some people will now report this after a time, that they 
experience silence at night. This might be the result of the shift of 
attention, but is also might be the result of a general placebo effect, you 
tell someone things are a certain way long enough and with enough emphasis, 
they may start to experience it.
Especially if the people reporting experience of the placebo feel that they're 
getting attention or pats on the back for reporting it. For example, the 
well-documented phenomenon in the Fairfield domes where someone reports a "new" 
experience, one that hasn't been mentioned before, and by week's end 20 other 
people are reporting that they've had that experience, too. 

And I think we all remember the was a certain former FFL member would react 
every time someone would report a new experience here. Not *only* would he 
report having had that same experience before, but he'd say that it was 
something he *used* to have, back a few years, but that he'd outgrown it now. 
So for him any reported experience became not only an opportunity to claim "Me, 
too," it became an opportunity to claim "Me, too, back when I was just 
starting...don't worry, someday you'll get past it, too, and become as evolved 
as I am," and thus assert his superiority.  Presumably he's still doing the 
same thing on his new group. 

What I've always wished someone would do is MAKE UP a "new" experience, and 
then either report it in the domes or post it on The_Leak, and then sit back 
and watch how long it is until others start "piling on" and claiming to have 
had the same experience themselves.  :-)

  

[FairfieldLife] Transcend, and know that I'm God?

[he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

Psalms 46:10 (Heb: 11), first clause ("cardian" transliteration from the 
original Hebrew)

harpu (harpoo) ud'u[?] (ood-oo) ki (key) anochi (~un-oh-Hee: H like in Scottish 
loch)
elohim...

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/mp3/t2646.mp3 
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/mp3/t2646.mp3

Starts from 1:15

We have studied very little the fairly complicated Hebrew verbal conjugation
but we think harpu is the hiphil-form (causative?) from the basic (qal) form 
rapha
(as in Rapha-el).

Strong's concordance (or whatever...):

 1) to sink, relax, sink down, let drop, be disheartened 
 1a) (Qal) 
 1a1) to sink down 
 1a2) to sink, drop 
 1a3) to sink, relax, abate 
 1a4) to relax, withdraw 
 1b) (Niphal) idle (participle) 
 1c) (Piel) to let drop 
 1d) (Hiphil) 
 1d1) to let drop, abandon, relax, refrain, forsake 
 1d2) to let go 
 1d3) to refrain, let alone 
 1d4) to be quiet 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hammond, Again.

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Exactly. Hammond's "message from beyond" only appeals only to those with a fear 
of rapidly-approaching death, plus a fear that they have wasted their lives in 
the pursuit of spiritual goals that never seemed to work out as they expected 
them to. 

  From: aryavazhi 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hammond, Again.
   
    Who is interested in overcome the fear of death ? Only old people if you 
ask me. If the movement is more interested in appealing to younger people, this 
would be the wrong message, maybe promising 72 virgins might work better.  
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[FairfieldLife] 2K Kcal!

[he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

What 2,000 Calories Looks Like 
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 What 2,000 Calories Looks Like 
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 Even as restaurants talk about smaller portions, they continue to serve a full 
day's worth of calories in a single meal — or even a single dish.
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 2K Kcal!

[j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

On almost all of the restaurant meals, I could remove enough sides and 
sugary/starchy crap to make the single large meal per day from which I get 
about half my calories, albeit, not as tasty as what I enjoy at home. Obviously 
Sonic is impossible since the shake is 100% non-food. And, at Ruth's Chris I'd 
skip the martini and take half the steak home in a doggy bag.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What 2,000 Calories Looks Like 
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/12/22/upshot/what-2000-calories-looks-like.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=2&abt=0002&abg=0
 
 
 What 2,000 Calories Looks Like 
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 Even as restaurants talk about smaller portions, they continue to serve a full 
day's worth of calories in a single meal — or even a single dish.


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - Goodbye

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The Wreck of The Fairfieldlife group at Yahoo-groups..
 as like:
 The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgI8bta-7aw
 ..Sad Cords of tribute to the dispossessed, the refugees of what was once a 
more kind and civil FFL, what was once an Old Ship of Zion, -Buck in Fairfield 
Iowa




 Merry Christmas to FFL and especially to all our gone-away displaced FFL 
refugees who having fled the provocative hatred and bigotry that now so freely 
floods unchecked displayed on this forum.  Merry Christmas to those who are now 
living elsewhere in other kinder places.  Many have come and gone through FFL.  
Merry Christmas past, present and Christmas future to all who have visited and 
who may yet visit FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups.
 Jai Guru You, -Buck in Fairfield, Iowa 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnPVP23rzo 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnPVP23rzo
 
 

 

 Dear Rick, As an old friend I really feel that you should not just yield 
FairfieldLife [FFL] over to the culture of unkindness that has come to 
overrunning and now overtaken the FairfieldLife [FFL] community on 
Yahoo-groups. Yep, a substantial disciplined period of silence should be good 
for the whole group. A little time-out quiet time.
 Sincerely, -Buck in Fairfield, Iowa



 "And so from this principle of man's being silent, and not acting in the 
things of God of himself, until thus actuated by God's light and grace in the 
heart, did naturally spring that manner of sitting silent together and waiting 
together upon God.  As every one is thus gathered, and so met together inwardly 
in their spirits as well as outwardly in their persons, there the secret power 
and virtue of life is known to refresh the soul, and the pure motions and 
breathings of God's spirit are felt to arise."
 -Barclay Apology 1678

_stanley@... wrote :

 Rick's not even answering the private email I sent him about this, so good 
luck getting him to address this here.
  

 Dear Rick, How about 12 Days of a Holiday Silence starting Christmas Day going 
in sync with Christendom up to the Epiphany, Jan 6th as a re-starter for FFL?  
In so many ways this is the season of renewal, let FFL spiritually re-set 
itself in its own ephiphanaic time of inner silence,-Buck


 There is in fact a lot going on in Fairfield, Iowa spiritually but those more 
substantial things get shared and said elsewhere and not much outside of 
Fairfield, Iowa. This forum should either be taken back or else have its ruins 
more appropriately labeled and renamed to, The_Abyss.


 Bhairitu writes, 
 Why don't you share what's been going on in Fairfield?  I even find your views 
and news on farming interesting.
 
 
 Nope, posting to this forum of Rick's any of a current of real things about 
Fairfield, Iowa and the meditating community here is too much like casting 
pearls before the swine or trying to turn a sow's ear in to a silk purse. - 
Buck in Fairfield, Iowa  

 

 

Aryavazhi writes:
 
Oh, Buck, they will not listen to you, don't you know? It is the same to them  
whether you warn them or do not warn them: They will not believe.
 

 

 Yes, but
 Son, We Shall Overcome
 and walk hand in hand..
 I do feel. -Buck
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnPVP23rzo 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnPVP23rzo
 



 

You can but warn such a one as follows the message and fears the most gracious, 
unseen: give such a one, therefor, good tidings, of forgiveness and a reward 
most generous.

The word is proved true against the greater part of them:
For they do not believe. We have put yokes round their necks up to their chins. 
So they cannot bow their heads.

And we have put a bar in front of them and  a bar behind them, and further. We 
have covered them up, so they cannot see.




 Dear Rick, 
 Negotiating with terrorists? Nope, however I do find that Re-naming, 
Re-branding this place in to The-Abyss is a good middle way of dealing with it. 
It, the forum's seep in to The_Abyss is very descriptive of how it has gone 
down on the old list here.
 You know in our protecting the brand of FFL as it is under attack, then of 
course as an an old and conservative Fairfield, Iowa meditator I should feel 
categorically that we should not negotiate with terrorists. It's a bad 
precedent in strategy. Can't beat 'em head-on then flank 'em.  
 -Buck in Fairfield 
 

 
 emptybill writes : 
 Buck - yer so right...



 Dear Rick; Yes, let us start with a healthy period of silence on FFL and then 
re-title the home page over to: The_Abyss. That new title would better 
represent the forum as it has devolved in to the hands of mostly non-Fairfield 
neganauts. Let us start anew in a period of silence. Let us have no thing here 
until at the least, 12 January 2015. -Buck in Fairfield



 Dear Rick;
 

 Yep, great idea. Re-name/re-brand the Fairfieldlife group.   Re-title FFL on 
the home page to: The_Abyss at Yahoo-groups.   Now that quite transparently and 
trut

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hammond Gearing up

[j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Interesting... I thought that joke would have at least elicited a groan.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 My guess: someone who is incapable of being negative.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Who is Kelvin Chin?

[FairfieldLife] Nabby's Movie

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hammond Gearing up

[aryavazhi]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Interesting... I thought that joke would have at least elicited a groan.

Alex, I was considering it.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 My guess: someone who is incapable of being negative.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Who is Kelvin Chin?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - Goodbye

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

With all due respect, the only person thrashing around in the water claiming to 
be drowning at sea is YOU, Buck. Everyone else seems to be having a pretty nice 
and agreeable time here on the new, improved FFL. 

YOU, on the other hand, are so desperate for someone to put down that you've 
been reduced to reposting conversations from FFL over on the The_Leak, hoping 
to get people to "pile on" and put this place down. To their credit, the folks 
over there seem to be ignoring you the same way people here are. 
  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:22 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - 
Goodbye
   
    The Wreck of The Fairfieldlife group atYahoo-groups..as like:The Wreck of 
the Edmund Fitzgerald..Sad Cords of tribute to the dispossessed, the refugees 
of what was once a more kind and civil FFL, what was once an Old Ship of Zion, 
-Buck in Fairfield Iowa



Merry Christmas to FFL and especially to all ourgone-away displaced FFL 
refugees who having fled the provocativehatred and bigotry that now so freely 
floods unchecked displayed on this forum.  Merry Christmas to those who are now 
living elsewhere in other kinder places.  Many have come and gone through FFL.  
Merry Christmas past, present and Christmas future to all who have visited and 
who may yet visit FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups.Jai Guru You, -Buck in 
Fairfield, Iowa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnPVP23rzo


Dear Rick, As an old friend I reallyfeel that you should not just yield 
FairfieldLife [FFL] over to theculture of unkindness that has come to 
overrunning and now overtakenthe FairfieldLife [FFL] community on Yahoo-groups. 
Yep, asubstantial disciplined period of silence should be good for thewhole 
group. A little time-out quiet time.Sincerely, -Buck in Fairfield, Iowa


"Andso from this principle of man's being silent, and not acting in the things 
ofGod of himself, until thus actuated by God's light and grace in the heart, 
didnaturally spring that manner of sitting silent together and waiting 
togetherupon God.  As every one is thus gathered,and so met together inwardly 
in their spirits as well as outwardly in theirpersons, there the secret power 
and virtue of life is known to refresh the soul, and the pure motions and 
breathings of God's spiritare felt to arise."   
 -BarclayApology 1678
_stanley@... wrote :

Rick's not even answering the private email I sent him about this, so good luck 
getting him to address this here. 
Dear Rick, How about 12 Days of a Holiday Silence starting Christmas Day going 
in sync with Christendom up to the Epiphany, Jan 6th as are-starter for FFL?  
In so many ways this is the season of renewal, let FFL spiritually re-set 
itself in its own ephiphanaic time of inner silence,    -Buck

There is in fact a lot going on inFairfield, Iowa spiritually but those more 
substantial things getshared and said elsewhere and not much outside of 
Fairfield, Iowa. This forum should either be taken back orelse have its ruins 
more appropriately labeled and renamed to, The_Abyss.

Bhairitu writes, Why don't you sharewhat's been going on in Fairfield?  I even 
find your views andnews on farming interesting.
Nope, posting to this forum of Rick'sany of a current of real things about 
Fairfield, Iowa and themeditating community here is too much like casting 
pearls before theswine or trying to turn a sow's ear in to a silk purse. - Buck 
inFairfield, Iowa  


Aryavazhi writes:

Oh, Buck, they will not listen to you, don't you know? It is the same to them  
whether you warn them or do not warn them: They will not believe.

Yes, butSon, We Shall Overcomeand walk hand in hand..I do feel. -Buck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnPVP23rzo


You can but warn such a one as follows the message and fears the most gracious, 
unseen: give such a one, therefor, good tidings, of forgiveness and a reward 
most generous.

The word is proved true against the greater part of them:
For they do not believe. We have put yokes round their necks up to their chins. 
So they cannot bow their heads.

And we have put a bar in front of them and  a bar behind them, and further. We 
have covered them up, so they cannot see.




Dear Rick, Negotiating with terrorists? Nope, however I do find thatRe-naming, 
Re-branding this place in to The-Abyss is a good middleway of dealing with it. 
It, the forum's seep in to The_Abyss is verydescriptive of how it has gone down 
on the old list here.You know in our protecting the brand of FFL as it is under 
attack, then of course as an an old and conservative Fairfield, Iowa meditator 
Ishould feel categorically that we should not negotiate withterrorists. It's a 
bad precedent in strategy. Can't beat 'em head-on then flank'em.   -Buck in 
Fairfield 

emptybillwrites :Buck- yer so right...


Dear Rick; Yes, let us start with a healthy period of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - Goodbye

[aryavazhi]

..Sad Cords of tribute to the dispossessed, the refugees of what was once a 
more kind and civil FFL, what was once an Old Ship of Zion, -Buck in Fairfield 
Iowa
 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence

[anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I have been thinking of going on the peaked, but there is already someone there 
who writes about experience similar to the way I do, so maybe it would not 
matter. I doubt you could get on the peaked with out a pseudonym because Jim 
was so annoyed that you would not recognise his 'enlightened status'. While I 
think he had some sort of profound experience, I think his ego co-opted it. The 
other problem with interpreting what Jim's experience was is he is not very 
articulate in expressing experiences in general, it's like trying to read a 
license plate on a fuzzy photograph.  

 I notice Alex is over there now, they seem to be discussing various kinds of 
de-stressing prior to and following awakening, things I have experienced 
myself. In general the posts over there have a much higher woo factor than ones 
appearing here, such as this post from Jim: 'Just as we were "magnetically" 
attracted to Earth, does the same process continue, after we work out our karma 
here, but on another planet? Just as a for instance, perhaps we continue to 
have desires that cannot be fulfilled here, on Earth, and then gravitate 
towards another world where different 'laws of nature' predominate?'
 

 'I am not all that interested in any alternatives to here, for quite awhile, 
though I am curious about the mechanics of it all, how life continues to 
evolve.'

 A good, clean realisation seems to have a zero wow factor, and is of a totally 
unexpected character. When I was younger I had more spectacular experiences, 
and while a glimpse of what I would call 'real' came through, they were mostly 
de-stressing and hallucinatory. Those sort of pie in the sky experiences 
though, seem like the kind that could be reported on the peaked that would stir 
up a discussion.
 

 Being around like-minded people tends to be more comfortable, but the 
intellect and sense of what is real also suffers when one is not challenged. 
Your challenges tend not to be intellectual arguments but more like a stone 
wall wherein one crashes upon. An absolute rejection of the point of view being 
expressed, and I think that can be an effective technique for unwinding woo, 
provided a person is not too stuck in the goo.
 

 I find it interesting that the groups on the peaked and here have settled into 
a less confrontational mode, and I think this has a lot to do with belief. 
People do not like to have cherished ideas ripped to shreds. It's Winter here, 
but no snow at the moment. Come Spring, I expect Jehovah's witnesses to come 
around with their pamphlets. I am typically cordial to them, and attempt to ask 
odd questions. I am thinking I could be more direct and just ask them why they 
want me to adopt their mythology.
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 

 Especially if the people reporting experience of the placebo feel that they're 
getting attention or pats on the back for reporting it. For example, the 
well-documented phenomenon in the Fairfield domes where someone reports a "new" 
experience, one that hasn't been mentioned before, and by week's end 20 other 
people are reporting that they've had that experience, too. 

 

 And I think we all remember the was a certain former FFL member would react 
every time someone would report a new experience here. Not *only* would he 
report having had that same experience before, but he'd say that it was 
something he *used* to have, back a few years, but that he'd outgrown it now. 
So for him any reported experience became not only an opportunity to claim "Me, 
too," it became an opportunity to claim "Me, too, back when I was just 
starting...don't worry, someday you'll get past it, too, and become as evolved 
as I am," and thus assert his superiority.  Presumably he's still doing the 
same thing on his new group. 

 

 What I've always wished someone would do is MAKE UP a "new" experience, and 
then either report it in the domes or post it on The_Leak, and then sit back 
and watch how long it is until others start "piling on" and claiming to have 
had the same experience themselves.  :-)
 
























 
  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence

[aryavazhi]

"And I think we all remember the was a certain former FFL member would react 
every time someone would report a new experience here. Not *only* would he 
report having had that same experience before, but he'd say that it was 
something he *used* to have, back a few years, but that he'd outgrown it now. "

Yep, I know whom you mean. And exactly this has happened in the past, but then 
this 'experience' I had is very real even now, and why should another person 
not having had it. I'm actually glad that other people too had it, It's not 
very common, but not so rare either. Regarding, how intense it is, and how 
persistent is anyones guess, and how you actually interpret is, is yet another 
story. So, right, I also dislike this one-upmanship that's so obvious. 
Especially if you have gone at least 10 steps above the highest here usually 
ennumerated SOC.

I once had a friend, who told me each time I met him, which initiation I had 
just received. I don't remember where I was, when I last met him. Each time I 
narrated an experience or a meeting with one master I had met, he would tell 
me, it was an important initiation. I had experiences, but couldn't at all 
relate to his story about initiations, and sure enough he would give me some 
himself. Finally he became a guru himself, invented or rather cognized his own 
system of transference of a new cosmic power, he just had discovered in the 
fast universe in an actually very different galaxy.  He still has some 
following, has written books etc. His system is a sort of spiritualized variant 
of Reiki, he doesn't call it like this, but it sounds like it, definitely not 
my calling.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I have never considered, even for a moment, posting on The_Leak. About once a 
week -- under the advice of my cop friend here in Leiden -- I do a quick search 
of the forum for my name and scan the list of posts at the top level to make 
sure neither Jim nor Nabby are continuing their illegal activities with regard 
to me and my family. That's why I noticed that Buck tried to start an argument 
over there -- and failed -- by reposting an exchange from FFL that never even 
escalated to argument level here. 

That exercise, though, is about the only contact I want with the group. The 
dynamic, as far as I can tell, is similar to the now-abandoned Batgap forum -- 
anyone can claim anything they want, and no one will ever challenge them. 
Newage (rhymes with sewage) laissez-faire, to the max. Not my kinda scene. As 
far as I can tell, there is no one there who could even *understand* the usual 
depth of your posts, much less respond to them in a way you'd find interesting. 
Just my opinion...
 From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence
   
    I have been thinking of going on the peaked, but there is already someone 
there who writes about experience similar to the way I do, so maybe it would 
not matter. I doubt you could get on the peaked with out a pseudonym because 
Jim was so annoyed that you would not recognise his 'enlightened status'. While 
I think he had some sort of profound experience, I think his ego co-opted it. 
The other problem with interpreting what Jim's experience was is he is not very 
articulate in expressing experiences in general, it's like trying to read a 
license plate on a fuzzy photograph. 
I notice Alex is over there now, they seem to be discussing various kinds of 
de-stressing prior to and following awakening, things I have experienced 
myself. In general the posts over there have a much higher woo factor than ones 
appearing here, such as this post from Jim:
'Just as we were "magnetically" attracted to Earth, does the same process 
continue, after we work out our karma here, but on another planet? Just as a 
for instance, perhaps we continue to have desires that cannot be fulfilled 
here, on Earth, and then gravitate towards another world where different 'laws 
of nature' predominate?'
'I am not all that interested in any alternatives to here, for quite awhile, 
though I am curious about the mechanics of it all, how life continues to 
evolve.'
A good, clean realisation seems to have a zero wow factor, and is of a totally 
unexpected character. When I was younger I had more spectacular experiences, 
and while a glimpse of what I would call 'real' came through, they were mostly 
de-stressing and hallucinatory. Those sort of pie in the sky experiences 
though, seem like the kind that could be reported on the peaked that would stir 
up a discussion.
Being around like-minded people tends to be more comfortable, but the intellect 
and sense of what is real also suffers when one is not challenged. Your 
challenges tend not to be intellectual arguments but more like a stone wall 
wherein one crashes upon. An absolute rejection of the point of view being 
expressed, and I think that can be an effective technique for unwinding woo, 
provided a person is not too stuck in the goo.
I find it interesting that the groups on the peaked and here have settled into 
a less confrontational mode, and I think this has a lot to do with belief. 
People do not like to have cherished ideas ripped to shreds. It's Winter here, 
but no snow at the moment. Come Spring, I expect Jehovah's witnesses to come 
around with their pamphlets. I am typically cordial to them, and attempt to ask 
odd questions. I am thinking I could be more direct and just ask them why they 
want me to adopt their mythology.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Especially if the people reporting experience of the placebo feel that they're 
getting attention or pats on the back for reporting it. For example, the 
well-documented phenomenon in the Fairfield domes where someone reports a "new" 
experience, one that hasn't been mentioned before, and by week's end 20 other 
people are reporting that they've had that experience, too. 

And I think we all remember the was a certain former FFL member would react 
every time someone would report a new experience here. Not *only* would he 
report having had that same experience before, but he'd say that it was 
something he *used* to have, back a few years, but that he'd outgrown it now. 
So for him any reported experience became not only an opportunity to claim "Me, 
too," it became an opportunity to claim "Me, too, back when I was just 
starting...don't worry, someday you'll get past it, too, and become as evolved 
as I am," and thus assert his superiority.  Presumably he's still doing the 
same thing on his new group. 

What I've 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You forget, Jimmie was interviewed on BATGAP - that has to mean he is 
enlightened, no?

  From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence
   
    I have been thinking of going on the peaked, but there is already someone 
there who writes about experience similar to the way I do, so maybe it would 
not matter. I doubt you could get on the peaked with out a pseudonym because 
Jim was so annoyed that you would not recognise his 'enlightened status'. While 
I think he had some sort of profound experience, I think his ego co-opted it. 
The other problem with interpreting what Jim's experience was is he is not very 
articulate in expressing experiences in general, it's like trying to read a 
license plate on a fuzzy photograph. 
I notice Alex is over there now, they seem to be discussing various kinds of 
de-stressing prior to and following awakening, things I have experienced 
myself. In general the posts over there have a much higher woo factor than ones 
appearing here, such as this post from Jim:
'Just as we were "magnetically" attracted to Earth, does the same process 
continue, after we work out our karma here, but on another planet? Just as a 
for instance, perhaps we continue to have desires that cannot be fulfilled 
here, on Earth, and then gravitate towards another world where different 'laws 
of nature' predominate?'
'I am not all that interested in any alternatives to here, for quite awhile, 
though I am curious about the mechanics of it all, how life continues to 
evolve.'
A good, clean realisation seems to have a zero wow factor, and is of a totally 
unexpected character. When I was younger I had more spectacular experiences, 
and while a glimpse of what I would call 'real' came through, they were mostly 
de-stressing and hallucinatory. Those sort of pie in the sky experiences 
though, seem like the kind that could be reported on the peaked that would stir 
up a discussion.
Being around like-minded people tends to be more comfortable, but the intellect 
and sense of what is real also suffers when one is not challenged. Your 
challenges tend not to be intellectual arguments but more like a stone wall 
wherein one crashes upon. An absolute rejection of the point of view being 
expressed, and I think that can be an effective technique for unwinding woo, 
provided a person is not too stuck in the goo.
I find it interesting that the groups on the peaked and here have settled into 
a less confrontational mode, and I think this has a lot to do with belief. 
People do not like to have cherished ideas ripped to shreds. It's Winter here, 
but no snow at the moment. Come Spring, I expect Jehovah's witnesses to come 
around with their pamphlets. I am typically cordial to them, and attempt to ask 
odd questions. I am thinking I could be more direct and just ask them why they 
want me to adopt their mythology.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Especially if the people reporting experience of the placebo feel that they're 
getting attention or pats on the back for reporting it. For example, the 
well-documented phenomenon in the Fairfield domes where someone reports a "new" 
experience, one that hasn't been mentioned before, and by week's end 20 other 
people are reporting that they've had that experience, too. 

And I think we all remember the was a certain former FFL member would react 
every time someone would report a new experience here. Not *only* would he 
report having had that same experience before, but he'd say that it was 
something he *used* to have, back a few years, but that he'd outgrown it now. 
So for him any reported experience became not only an opportunity to claim "Me, 
too," it became an opportunity to claim "Me, too, back when I was just 
starting...don't worry, someday you'll get past it, too, and become as evolved 
as I am," and thus assert his superiority.  Presumably he's still doing the 
same thing on his new group. 

What I've always wished someone would do is MAKE UP a "new" experience, and 
then either report it in the domes or post it on The_Leak, and then sit back 
and watch how long it is until others start "piling on" and claiming to have 
had the same experience themselves.  :-)


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Him and Ravi Chivukula. Virtual supernovas in the celestial panorama of 
consciousness.

  From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 5:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence
   
    You forget, Jimmie was interviewed on BATGAP - that has to mean he is 
enlightened, no?

 

 From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence
   
    I have been thinking of going on the peaked, but there is already someone 
there who writes about experience similar to the way I do, so maybe it would 
not matter. I doubt you could get on the peaked with out a pseudonym because 
Jim was so annoyed that you would not recognise his 'enlightened status'. While 
I think he had some sort of profound experience, I think his ego co-opted it. 
The other problem with interpreting what Jim's experience was is he is not very 
articulate in expressing experiences in general, it's like trying to read a 
license plate on a fuzzy photograph. 
I notice Alex is over there now, they seem to be discussing various kinds of 
de-stressing prior to and following awakening, things I have experienced 
myself. In general the posts over there have a much higher woo factor than ones 
appearing here, such as this post from Jim:
'Just as we were "magnetically" attracted to Earth, does the same process 
continue, after we work out our karma here, but on another planet? Just as a 
for instance, perhaps we continue to have desires that cannot be fulfilled 
here, on Earth, and then gravitate towards another world where different 'laws 
of nature' predominate?'
'I am not all that interested in any alternatives to here, for quite awhile, 
though I am curious about the mechanics of it all, how life continues to 
evolve.'
A good, clean realisation seems to have a zero wow factor, and is of a totally 
unexpected character. When I was younger I had more spectacular experiences, 
and while a glimpse of what I would call 'real' came through, they were mostly 
de-stressing and hallucinatory. Those sort of pie in the sky experiences 
though, seem like the kind that could be reported on the peaked that would stir 
up a discussion.
Being around like-minded people tends to be more comfortable, but the intellect 
and sense of what is real also suffers when one is not challenged. Your 
challenges tend not to be intellectual arguments but more like a stone wall 
wherein one crashes upon. An absolute rejection of the point of view being 
expressed, and I think that can be an effective technique for unwinding woo, 
provided a person is not too stuck in the goo.
I find it interesting that the groups on the peaked and here have settled into 
a less confrontational mode, and I think this has a lot to do with belief. 
People do not like to have cherished ideas ripped to shreds. It's Winter here, 
but no snow at the moment. Come Spring, I expect Jehovah's witnesses to come 
around with their pamphlets. I am typically cordial to them, and attempt to ask 
odd questions. I am thinking I could be more direct and just ask them why they 
want me to adopt their mythology.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Especially if the people reporting experience of the placebo feel that they're 
getting attention or pats on the back for reporting it. For example, the 
well-documented phenomenon in the Fairfield domes where someone reports a "new" 
experience, one that hasn't been mentioned before, and by week's end 20 other 
people are reporting that they've had that experience, too. 

And I think we all remember the was a certain former FFL member would react 
every time someone would report a new experience here. Not *only* would he 
report having had that same experience before, but he'd say that it was 
something he *used* to have, back a few years, but that he'd outgrown it now. 
So for him any reported experience became not only an opportunity to claim "Me, 
too," it became an opportunity to claim "Me, too, back when I was just 
starting...don't worry, someday you'll get past it, too, and become as evolved 
as I am," and thus assert his superiority.  Presumably he's still doing the 
same thing on his new group. 

What I've always wished someone would do is MAKE UP a "new" experience, and 
then either report it in the domes or post it on The_Leak, and then sit back 
and watch how long it is until others start "piling on" and claiming to have 
had the same experience themselves.  :-)


   

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ravi was interviewed on BATGAP?!?! I did not know that. Too bad Rick never got 
Robin and Andy on tape - then he could'a done a round table interview with all 
of them and labeled it the 4 Horsemen interview. 

  From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 11:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence
   
    Him and Ravi Chivukula. Virtual supernovas in the celestial panorama of 
consciousness.

 

 From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 5:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence
   
    You forget, Jimmie was interviewed on BATGAP - that has to mean he is 
enlightened, no?

 

 From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence
   
    I have been thinking of going on the peaked, but there is already someone 
there who writes about experience similar to the way I do, so maybe it would 
not matter. I doubt you could get on the peaked with out a pseudonym because 
Jim was so annoyed that you would not recognise his 'enlightened status'. While 
I think he had some sort of profound experience, I think his ego co-opted it. 
The other problem with interpreting what Jim's experience was is he is not very 
articulate in expressing experiences in general, it's like trying to read a 
license plate on a fuzzy photograph. 
I notice Alex is over there now, they seem to be discussing various kinds of 
de-stressing prior to and following awakening, things I have experienced 
myself. In general the posts over there have a much higher woo factor than ones 
appearing here, such as this post from Jim:
'Just as we were "magnetically" attracted to Earth, does the same process 
continue, after we work out our karma here, but on another planet? Just as a 
for instance, perhaps we continue to have desires that cannot be fulfilled 
here, on Earth, and then gravitate towards another world where different 'laws 
of nature' predominate?'
'I am not all that interested in any alternatives to here, for quite awhile, 
though I am curious about the mechanics of it all, how life continues to 
evolve.'
A good, clean realisation seems to have a zero wow factor, and is of a totally 
unexpected character. When I was younger I had more spectacular experiences, 
and while a glimpse of what I would call 'real' came through, they were mostly 
de-stressing and hallucinatory. Those sort of pie in the sky experiences 
though, seem like the kind that could be reported on the peaked that would stir 
up a discussion.
Being around like-minded people tends to be more comfortable, but the intellect 
and sense of what is real also suffers when one is not challenged. Your 
challenges tend not to be intellectual arguments but more like a stone wall 
wherein one crashes upon. An absolute rejection of the point of view being 
expressed, and I think that can be an effective technique for unwinding woo, 
provided a person is not too stuck in the goo.
I find it interesting that the groups on the peaked and here have settled into 
a less confrontational mode, and I think this has a lot to do with belief. 
People do not like to have cherished ideas ripped to shreds. It's Winter here, 
but no snow at the moment. Come Spring, I expect Jehovah's witnesses to come 
around with their pamphlets. I am typically cordial to them, and attempt to ask 
odd questions. I am thinking I could be more direct and just ask them why they 
want me to adopt their mythology.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Especially if the people reporting experience of the placebo feel that they're 
getting attention or pats on the back for reporting it. For example, the 
well-documented phenomenon in the Fairfield domes where someone reports a "new" 
experience, one that hasn't been mentioned before, and by week's end 20 other 
people are reporting that they've had that experience, too. 

And I think we all remember the was a certain former FFL member would react 
every time someone would report a new experience here. Not *only* would he 
report having had that same experience before, but he'd say that it was 
something he *used* to have, back a few years, but that he'd outgrown it now. 
So for him any reported experience became not only an opportunity to claim "Me, 
too," it became an opportunity to claim "Me, too, back when I was just 
starting...don't worry, someday you'll get past it, too, and become as evolved 
as I am," and thus assert his superiority.  Presumably he's still doing the 
same thing on his new group. 

What I've always wished someone would do is MAKE UP a "new" experience, and 
then either report it in the domes or post it on The_Leak, and then sit back 
and watch how long

[FairfieldLife] Amazing what people will believe

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence

[j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 I'm participating because davidfb108 has been saying stuff that I can 
recognize in my own experience. I recognize him from the BATGAP Yahoo group, 
but I've never interacted with him before. These days, I am seldom inspired to 
communicate openly about personal matters. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I have been thinking of going on the peaked, but there is already someone 
there who writes about experience similar to the way I do, so maybe it would 
not matter. I doubt you could get on the peaked with out a pseudonym because 
Jim was so annoyed that you would not recognise his 'enlightened status'. While 
I think he had some sort of profound experience, I think his ego co-opted it. 
The other problem with interpreting what Jim's experience was is he is not very 
articulate in expressing experiences in general, it's like trying to read a 
license plate on a fuzzy photograph.  

 I notice Alex is over there now, they seem to be discussing various kinds of 
de-stressing prior to and following awakening, things I have experienced 
myself. In general the posts over there have a much higher woo factor than ones 
appearing here, such as this post from Jim: 'Just as we were "magnetically" 
attracted to Earth, does the same process continue, after we work out our karma 
here, but on another planet? Just as a for instance, perhaps we continue to 
have desires that cannot be fulfilled here, on Earth, and then gravitate 
towards another world where different 'laws of nature' predominate?'
 

 'I am not all that interested in any alternatives to here, for quite awhile, 
though I am curious about the mechanics of it all, how life continues to 
evolve.'

 A good, clean realisation seems to have a zero wow factor, and is of a totally 
unexpected character. When I was younger I had more spectacular experiences, 
and while a glimpse of what I would call 'real' came through, they were mostly 
de-stressing and hallucinatory. Those sort of pie in the sky experiences 
though, seem like the kind that could be reported on the peaked that would stir 
up a discussion.
 

 Being around like-minded people tends to be more comfortable, but the 
intellect and sense of what is real also suffers when one is not challenged. 
Your challenges tend not to be intellectual arguments but more like a stone 
wall wherein one crashes upon. An absolute rejection of the point of view being 
expressed, and I think that can be an effective technique for unwinding woo, 
provided a person is not too stuck in the goo.
 

 I find it interesting that the groups on the peaked and here have settled into 
a less confrontational mode, and I think this has a lot to do with belief. 
People do not like to have cherished ideas ripped to shreds. It's Winter here, 
but no snow at the moment. Come Spring, I expect Jehovah's witnesses to come 
around with their pamphlets. I am typically cordial to them, and attempt to ask 
odd questions. I am thinking I could be more direct and just ask them why they 
want me to adopt their mythology.
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 

 Especially if the people reporting experience of the placebo feel that they're 
getting attention or pats on the back for reporting it. For example, the 
well-documented phenomenon in the Fairfield domes where someone reports a "new" 
experience, one that hasn't been mentioned before, and by week's end 20 other 
people are reporting that they've had that experience, too. 

 

 And I think we all remember the was a certain former FFL member would react 
every time someone would report a new experience here. Not *only* would he 
report having had that same experience before, but he'd say that it was 
something he *used* to have, back a few years, but that he'd outgrown it now. 
So for him any reported experience became not only an opportunity to claim "Me, 
too," it became an opportunity to claim "Me, too, back when I was just 
starting...don't worry, someday you'll get past it, too, and become as evolved 
as I am," and thus assert his superiority.  Presumably he's still doing the 
same thing on his new group. 

 

 What I've always wished someone would do is MAKE UP a "new" experience, and 
then either report it in the domes or post it on The_Leak, and then sit back 
and watch how long it is until others start "piling on" and claiming to have 
had the same experience themselves.  :-)
 
























 
  





  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2K Kcal!

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

People put on weight because they use food as medicine.  You eat 
something that makes you too yin (sweet) then you want something more 
yang (salty) to rebalance (and vice-versa).  In the process you put on 
more calories.  Then there is the whole way your body processes food.  
Some people's daily diet that keeps weight off will put weight on 
others.  And in the US we have these demons who want to wage war on the 
obese. We'll just have to sit on them.


On 12/29/2014 05:11 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


On almost all of the restaurant meals, I could remove enough sides and 
sugary/starchy crap to make the single large meal per day from which I 
get about half my calories, albeit, not as tasty as what I enjoy at 
home. Obviously Sonic is impossible since the shake is 100% non-food. 
And, at Ruth's Chris I'd skip the martini and take half the steak home 
in a doggy bag.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

What 2,000 Calories Looks Like 
 





What 2,000 Calories Looks Like 
 

Even as restaurants talk about smaller portions, they continue to 
serve a full day's worth of calories in a single meal — or even a 
single dish.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Nabby's Movie

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Obviously you've never seen "Fire" by Deepa Mehta.  It mocks gurus and 
Indian religious practices.  She also made a move called "Earth" which 
was about what happened after the UK gave Indian back.  And had to shoot 
"Water" in another country after being thrown out of India.  She lives 
in Canada and her ex was on the Rishikesh course with the Beatles and 
published a book a photos he took while on the course.  Her more recent 
films are about Indians in the west.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116308/

On 12/29/2014 06:21 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Why is Bollywood film PK controversial? 



image 





Why is Bollywood film PK controversial? 

Bollywood film PK raises the sensitive issue of religious 
superstitions in India


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[FairfieldLife] Anime Review: psycho-pass

[lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]]

Psycho-Pass (サイコパス -phonetic spelling in Japanese）
 

 Is a Japanese animation done in the spirit of Ghost in the Shell and 
reminiscent of Minority Report.
 

 The action takes place in 2112 in a city that has adopted a law enforcement 
technology where every citizen is periodically evaluated for their "psymetry" 
and given a color-coded socialization index. A "cloudy" hue suggests a growing 
anti-social attitude, and past a certain point, the police are authorized to 
intervene merely based on your current index. With a high-enough index, 
officers are authorized to shoot on sight. The evaluation is done on-the-spot 
by sensors in the officer's own weapon directly linked to the city-wide system, 
which automatically adjusts from Trigger-off, to Paralyze, to Terminate, 
depending on what the sensor registers.
 

 In order to buffer peace officers from the stress of their job, they command 
teams of "Enforcers"--latent criminals with socialization indexes too high to 
be allowed roam freely--to do most of the dirty work of interacting with the 
potential criminal element.
 

 Hints that--civil rights issues aside--there are serious problems with the 
system, appear as a rape victim, mockingly informed by her rapist that her 
post-rape socialization index now makes her unfit for society, attempts to 
commit suicide by soaking herself with gasoline and threatening to blow up 
everyone around her. Naturally, officers' and Enforcers' weapons switch to 
Terminate mode and only a quick "Paralyze" shot at the nearest Enforcer from 
the officer-in-charge prevents the death of the rape victim, who eventually 
calms down sufficiently for her Index to warrant attempts at therapy and 
rehabilitation rather than instant Termination.
 

 It's an interesting dystopian series and, despite being more psychological 
than most popular anime, has qualified for a second season. I'm re-watching the 
first season in preparation for the second. It explores the themes of morality 
and ethics based on high technology in far more depth than Minority Report ever 
did, in my opinion, and is worth watching if you don't mind subtitles and drawn 
characters rather than live action.
 

 

 

 

[FairfieldLife] Virtuoso Wheeler of Fortune!

[he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

Wheel Of Fortune 2014 12 26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHfhVq-f-RQ 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHfhVq-f-RQ 
 
 Wheel Of Fortune 2014 12 26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHfhVq-f-RQ Wheel 
Of Fortune 26.Dec.2014 Wheel Of Fortune Dec.26.2014 Wheel Of Fortune 
2014.Dec.26 Wheel Of Fortune 2014.26.Dec Wheel Of For...
 
 
 
 View on www.yout... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHfhVq-f-RQ 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence

[anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 I watched the entire video of Jim, as he was making such a fuss on FFL. I 
found his explanation of his experience rather opaque. I do think he had some 
sort of intense opening but because his explanations do not have a lot of 
intellectual resolution, I find them difficult to parse. Basically he says he 
is in silence 24/7 which could place him in CC territory, but he avoided saying 
much more so its ambiguous. As we have been discussing, CC is not such a great 
hot state, and seems rather common now among meditators of various meditation 
systems. In observing meditators for some four decades, I do not find that 
people's personalities change that much.
 

 I had mini awakenings long ago, but as time has passed found that it is very 
easy to over-interpret their significance and 'depth'. A really solid awakening 
pretty much knocks you off the saddle of whatever horse you happen to be 
riding, and can take years to assimilate what was experienced.
 

 Ravi's video was pulled, so I never saw it. I found a blog he has. He seems 
much more rational there than when he was on FFL, even though I do not agree 
with his view of things. I guess it is easier to sound rational when people are 
not calling you on your game.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ravi was interviewed on BATGAP?!?! I did not know that. Too bad Rick never got 
Robin and Andy on tape - then he could'a done a round table interview with all 
of them and labeled it the 4 Horsemen interview. 

 

 From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 11:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence
 
 
   
 Him and Ravi Chivukula. Virtual supernovas in the celestial panorama of 
consciousness.

 


 From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 5:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence
 
 
   
 You forget, Jimmie was interviewed on BATGAP - that has to mean he is 
enlightened, no?
 

 


 From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence
 
 
   I have been thinking of going on the peaked, but there is already someone 
there who writes about experience similar to the way I do, so maybe it would 
not matter. I doubt you could get on the peaked with out a pseudonym because 
Jim was so annoyed that you would not recognise his 'enlightened status'. While 
I think he had some sort of profound experience, I think his ego co-opted it. 
The other problem with interpreting what Jim's experience was is he is not very 
articulate in expressing experiences in general, it's like trying to read a 
license plate on a fuzzy photograph. 
 

 I notice Alex is over there now, they seem to be discussing various kinds of 
de-stressing prior to and following awakening, things I have experienced 
myself. In general the posts over there have a much higher woo factor than ones 
appearing here, such as this post from Jim: 'Just as we were "magnetically" 
attracted to Earth, does the same process continue, after we work out our karma 
here, but on another planet? Just as a for instance, perhaps we continue to 
have desires that cannot be fulfilled here, on Earth, and then gravitate 
towards another world where different 'laws of nature' predominate?'
 

 'I am not all that interested in any alternatives to here, for quite awhile, 
though I am curious about the mechanics of it all, how life continues to 
evolve.'

 A good, clean realisation seems to have a zero wow factor, and is of a totally 
unexpected character. When I was younger I had more spectacular experiences, 
and while a glimpse of what I would call 'real' came through, they were mostly 
de-stressing and hallucinatory. Those sort of pie in the sky experiences 
though, seem like the kind that could be reported on the peaked that would stir 
up a discussion.
 

 Being around like-minded people tends to be more comfortable, but the 
intellect and sense of what is real also suffers when one is not challenged. 
Your challenges tend not to be intellectual arguments but more like a stone 
wall wherein one crashes upon. An absolute rejection of the point of view being 
expressed, and I think that can be an effective technique for unwinding woo, 
provided a person is not too stuck in the goo.
 

 I find it interesting that the groups on the peaked and here have settled into 
a less confrontational mode, and I think this has a lot to do with belief. 
People do not like to have cherished ideas ripped to shreds. It's Winter here, 
but no snow at the moment. Come Spring, I expect Jehovah's witnesses to come 
around with their pamphlets. I am typically cordial to them, and attempt to ask 
odd questions. I am thinking I could be more direct and just ask them why they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing what people will believe

[marty...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

werewolf, werewolf?..there wolfthere wolf..there castle... 

 Werewolf...There wolf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_G8mHdJ5UI 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_G8mHdJ5UI 
 
 Werewolf...There wolf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_G8mHdJ5UI Young 
Frankenstien
 
 
 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_G8mHdJ5UI 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  


 

[FairfieldLife] Who's On First?

[aryavazhi]

Who's On First? 
 Jerry Katz and Rick Archer, the non-dual comedy duo, were organizing an 
upcoming advaita forum. They were discussing the lineup of speakers, and the 
following discussion ensued:

 JERRY: Who’s on first? 

 RICK: Nobody.

 JERRY: No one’s on first?

 RICK: No, nobody’s on first. No one’s on second.

 JERRY: Wait, you said that nobody’s on first.

 RICK: Right.

 JERRY: Well, if nobody’s on first then no one will be giving a presention at 
the beginning?

 RICK: No, no one will be giving the second presentation.

 JERRY: Nobody is giving the second presentation either?

 RICK: No, nobody is giving the first presentation. No one is giving the second 
presentation.

 JERRY: If nobody is giving the first presentation, and no one is giving the 
second presentation either, then who is the third speaker?

 RICK: Who cares.

 JERRY: I do! That’s why I’m asking.

 RICK: No, who cares is the third speaker.

 JERRY: I do! If nobody is giving the first talk, and no one is on second, then 
somebody better be giving the third presentation!

 RICK: No, somebody is at home.

 JERRY: Who’s at home?

 RICK: No, somebody’s at home. Who’s running the video camera.

 JERRY: I don’t know.

 RICK: He’s collecting the donations at the door.

 JERRY: Who is?

 RICK: I don’t know.

 JERRY: You don’t know who’s collecting the donations at the door?

 RICK: Yes, I do. I don’t know.

 JERRY: You don't know or you do know?

 RICK: I do know, I don't know.

 JERRY: Ok, let me get this straight. Nobody is giving the first presentation.

 RICK: Right.

 JERRY: And no one is giving the second presentation.

 RICK: Exactly.

 JERRY: And you don't care who's giving the third presentation.

 RICK: No, I do care. The third presentation is who cares.

 JERRY: You just said that you did!

 RICK: I do. Who cares.

 JERRY: Allright, forget that. At least let's figure out who's collecting the 
donations at the door.

 RICK: I already told you, I don't know.

 JERRY: Well, let's get somebody on it right away!

 RICK: Somebody's at home.

 JERRY: Then no one can do it?

 RICK: No, no one is giving the second presentation.

 JERRY: You're telling me that nobody can collection donations?

 RICK: No. Nobody is the first speaker.

 JERRY: Who's going to collect donations!!??

 RICK: Who's running the video camera.

 JERRY: I don't know!

 RICK: That's who's collecting donations at the door.

 JERRY: Who is?

 RICK: I don't know.

 JERRY: Oh my God, I quit! I’m going to become a Scientologist. Less craziness! 

from:

The Braying Jackass: Who's On First? 
http://thebrayingjackass.blogspot.de/2014/12/whos-on-first.html 
 
 http://thebrayingjackass.blogspot.de/2014/12/whos-on-first.html 
 
 The Braying Jackass: Who's On First? 
http://thebrayingjackass.blogspot.de/2014/12/whos-on-first.html Jerry Katz and 
Rick Archer, the non-dual comedy duo, were organizing an upcoming advaita 
forum. They were discussing the lineup of speakers, and t...
 
 
 
 View on thebrayingjackass.blo... 
http://thebrayingjackass.blogspot.de/2014/12/whos-on-first.html 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence

[aryavazhi]

I saw him on Batgap before seeing him on FFL. He totally put me off. He comes 
across so extrovert and superficial - no thank you. And then his silly 
insistence for acknowledging his 'enlightenment'. Even the word 'The_Peak' is a 
commedy. 

The first thing, I look for, in anyone claiming any sort of 'enlightenment' is 
a sense of detachment. The people I know whom I regard as enlightened, have a 
strong sense of inner independence and detachment. You can feel it in the air. 
That is very different from compassion and love, which is the next thing to 
look for.

This is simply missing. Maybe the Bhagavad Gita is after all wrong that there 
are no signs for enlightenment, or maybe there are no signs for enlightenment, 
but there are some signs for non-enlightenment. So, all in all I found him 
shallow, easily upset and rude. 

I remember Maharishi warning us from 'moody Brahman', I understand today, to be 
a sort of mixed up realization, not grounded, down-to-earth,  and with 
delusional fantasies. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 I watched the entire video of Jim, as he was making such a fuss on FFL. I 
found his explanation of his experience rather opaque. I do think he had some 
sort of intense opening but because his explanations do not have a lot of 
intellectual resolution, I find them difficult to parse. Basically he says he 
is in silence 24/7 which could place him in CC territory, but he avoided saying 
much more so its ambiguous. As we have been discussing, CC is not such a great 
hot state, and seems rather common now among meditators of various meditation 
systems. In observing meditators for some four decades, I do not find that 
people's personalities change that much.
 

 I had mini awakenings long ago, but as time has passed found that it is very 
easy to over-interpret their significance and 'depth'. A really solid awakening 
pretty much knocks you off the saddle of whatever horse you happen to be 
riding, and can take years to assimilate what was experienced.
 

 Ravi's video was pulled, so I never saw it. I found a blog he has. He seems 
much more rational there than when he was on FFL, even though I do not agree 
with his view of things. I guess it is easier to sound rational when people are 
not calling you on your game.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ravi was interviewed on BATGAP?!?! I did not know that. Too bad Rick never got 
Robin and Andy on tape - then he could'a done a round table interview with all 
of them and labeled it the 4 Horsemen interview. 

 

 From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 11:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence
 
 
   
 Him and Ravi Chivukula. Virtual supernovas in the celestial panorama of 
consciousness.

 


 From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 5:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence
 
 
   
 You forget, Jimmie was interviewed on BATGAP - that has to mean he is 
enlightened, no?
 

 


 From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence
 
 
   I have been thinking of going on the peaked, but there is already someone 
there who writes about experience similar to the way I do, so maybe it would 
not matter. I doubt you could get on the peaked with out a pseudonym because 
Jim was so annoyed that you would not recognise his 'enlightened status'. While 
I think he had some sort of profound experience, I think his ego co-opted it. 
The other problem with interpreting what Jim's experience was is he is not very 
articulate in expressing experiences in general, it's like trying to read a 
license plate on a fuzzy photograph. 
 

 I notice Alex is over there now, they seem to be discussing various kinds of 
de-stressing prior to and following awakening, things I have experienced 
myself. In general the posts over there have a much higher woo factor than ones 
appearing here, such as this post from Jim: 'Just as we were "magnetically" 
attracted to Earth, does the same process continue, after we work out our karma 
here, but on another planet? Just as a for instance, perhaps we continue to 
have desires that cannot be fulfilled here, on Earth, and then gravitate 
towards another world where different 'laws of nature' predominate?'
 

 'I am not all that interested in any alternatives to here, for quite awhile, 
though I am curious about the mechanics of it all, how life continues to 
evolve.'

 A good, clean realisation seems to have a zero wow factor, and is of a totally 
unexpected character. When I was younger I had more spectacular experiences, 
and while a glimpse of what I would call 'real' came through, they were mostly 
de-stressing and ha

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence

[j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

And, on some hard drive somewhere, I have an .FLV file of it that I never once 
watched.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ravi's video was pulled, so I never saw it. 


 








 


 











 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Interesting that Rick finally yanked the Ravi video. I remember we (Rick and I) 
had a discussion about it on FFL once, and I was a proponent of leaving it up, 
*as a cautionary tale* of how badly Rick could fuck up and be taken in with 
regard to who is enlightened and who is not. 

I suggested that he leave the video up, but comment on it as I have above. Last 
I heard, that is what he had done. 

Too bad in many ways that it's no longer available. He was quite the loon. But 
more important, because of Rick he became for a short time a loon with a forum, 
and a loon with an audience for whom to act loony. 

That's very dangerous, and I still feel some kind of record of that should have 
been left. 
  From: "j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 11:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence
   
    And, on some hard drive somewhere, I have an .FLV file of it that I never 
once watched.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ravi's video was pulled, so I never saw it.








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I wonder what led Rick to interview him to start with?

  From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 6:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence
   
    Interesting that Rick finally yanked the Ravi video. I remember we (Rick 
and I) had a discussion about it on FFL once, and I was a proponent of leaving 
it up, *as a cautionary tale* of how badly Rick could fuck up and be taken in 
with regard to who is enlightened and who is not. 

I suggested that he leave the video up, but comment on it as I have above. Last 
I heard, that is what he had done. 

Too bad in many ways that it's no longer available. He was quite the loon. But 
more important, because of Rick he became for a short time a loon with a forum, 
and a loon with an audience for whom to act loony. 

That's very dangerous, and I still feel some kind of record of that should have 
been left. 
 

 From: "j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 11:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real nature of transcendence
   
    And, on some hard drive somewhere, I have an .FLV file of it that I never 
once watched.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ravi's video was pulled, so I never saw it.








  

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Nabby's Movie

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re "Her ex was on the Rishikesh course with the Beatles and published a book a 
photos he took while on the course.": 

 Yes, Paul Saltzman. Wonderful photos ("The Beatles in Rishikesh"). That was a 
time when TM seemed so magical, full of promise and mysteriously alluring.
 

 

 

 .
 
 

 


 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Obviously you've never seen "Fire" by Deepa Mehta.  It mocks gurus and Indian 
religious practices.  She also made a move called "Earth" which was about what 
happened after the UK gave Indian back.  And had to shoot "Water" in another 
country after being thrown out of India.  She lives in Canada and her ex was on 
the Rishikesh course with the Beatles and published a book a photos he took 
while on the course.  Her more recent films are about Indians in the west.
 
 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116308/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116308/
 
 On 12/29/2014 06:21 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Why is Bollywood film PK controversial?  
  
 
  
  
  
  
  
 Why is Bollywood film PK controversial? Bollywood film PK raises the sensitive 
issue of religious superstitions in India


 
 View on www.bbc.com
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

  


 
 

  

  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - Goodbye

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Where Have all The FFL Flowers Gone?
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y2SIIeqy34 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y2SIIeqy34
 
 
 They've all gone over to The_Peak
 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/info 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/info
 
 
 

..Sad Cords of tribute to the dispossessed, the refugees of what was once a 
more kind and civil FFL, what was once an Old Ship of Zion, -Buck in Fairfield 
Iowa 

 The Wreck of The Fairfieldlife group at Yahoo-groups..
 as like:
 The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgI8bta-7aw
 



 Merry Christmas to FFL and especially to all our gone-away displaced FFL 
refugees who having fled the provocative hatred and bigotry that now so freely 
floods unchecked displayed on this forum.  Merry Christmas to those who are now 
living elsewhere in other kinder places.  Many have come and gone through FFL.  
Merry Christmas past, present and Christmas future to all who have visited and 
who may yet visit FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups.
 Jai Guru You, -Buck in Fairfield, Iowa 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnPVP23rzo 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnPVP23rzo
 
 

 

 Dear Rick, As an old friend I really feel that you should not just yield 
FairfieldLife [FFL] over to the culture of unkindness that has come to 
overrunning and now overtaken the FairfieldLife [FFL] community on 
Yahoo-groups. Yep, a substantial disciplined period of silence should be good 
for the whole group. A little time-out quiet time.
 Sincerely, -Buck in Fairfield, Iowa



 "And so from this principle of man's being silent, and not acting in the 
things of God of himself, until thus actuated by God's light and grace in the 
heart, did naturally spring that manner of sitting silent together and waiting 
together upon God.  As every one is thus gathered, and so met together inwardly 
in their spirits as well as outwardly in their persons, there the secret power 
and virtue of life is known to refresh the soul, and the pure motions and 
breathings of God's spirit are felt to arise."
 -Barclay Apology 1678

_stanley@... wrote :

 Rick's not even answering the private email I sent him about this, so good 
luck getting him to address this here.
  

 Dear Rick, How about 12 Days of a Holiday Silence starting Christmas Day going 
in sync with Christendom up to the Epiphany, Jan 6th as a re-starter for FFL?  
In so many ways this is the season of renewal, let FFL spiritually re-set 
itself in its own ephiphanaic time of inner silence,-Buck


 There is in fact a lot going on in Fairfield, Iowa spiritually but those more 
substantial things get shared and said elsewhere and not much outside of 
Fairfield, Iowa. This forum should either be taken back or else have its ruins 
more appropriately labeled and renamed to, The_Abyss.


 Bhairitu writes, 
 Why don't you share what's been going on in Fairfield?  I even find your views 
and news on farming interesting.
 
 
 Nope, posting to this forum of Rick's any of a current of real things about 
Fairfield, Iowa and the meditating community here is too much like casting 
pearls before the swine or trying to turn a sow's ear in to a silk purse. - 
Buck in Fairfield, Iowa  

 

 

Aryavazhi writes:
 
Oh, Buck, they will not listen to you, don't you know? It is the same to them  
whether you warn them or do not warn them: They will not believe.
 

 

 Yes, but
 Son, We Shall Overcome
 and walk hand in hand..
 I do feel. -Buck
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnPVP23rzo 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnPVP23rzo
 



 

You can but warn such a one as follows the message and fears the most gracious, 
unseen: give such a one, therefor, good tidings, of forgiveness and a reward 
most generous.

The word is proved true against the greater part of them:
For they do not believe. We have put yokes round their necks up to their chins. 
So they cannot bow their heads.

And we have put a bar in front of them and  a bar behind them, and further. We 
have covered them up, so they cannot see.




 Dear Rick, 
 Negotiating with terrorists? Nope, however I do find that Re-naming, 
Re-branding this place in to The-Abyss is a good middle way of dealing with it. 
It, the forum's seep in to The_Abyss is very descriptive of how it has gone 
down on the old list here.
 You know in our protecting the brand of FFL as it is under attack, then of 
course as an an old and conservative Fairfield, Iowa meditator I should feel 
categorically that we should not negotiate with terrorists. It's a bad 
precedent in strategy. Can't beat 'em head-on then flank 'em.  
 -Buck in Fairfield 
 

 
 emptybill writes : 
 Buck - yer so right...



 Dear Rick; Yes, let us start with a healthy period of silence on FFL and then 
re-title the home page over to: The_Abyss. That new title would better 
represent the forum as it has devolved in to the hands of mostly non-Fairfield 
neganauts. Let us start anew in a pe

[FairfieldLife] Subscrtibe to "The Peak" - An alternative to FFL

[reverse_arch...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Hi, Jim Flanegin here, a former poster to FFL. I invite anyone who likes a good 
conversation, without the over the top insanity, to my new Yahoo Group, The 
Peak. 
 

 
 the_peak-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
 

 "The Peak is an ongoing conversation about our journey as human beings, 
upwards towards the pinnacle, and fulfillment of our existence; Enlightenment. 
Any other topics, such as politics, economics, sexuality, UFO's, every day 
life, designing umbrellas, and even religion, are welcome, too. 

 
This site is moderated, with the focus being on entertaining, civil, and 
interesting discussions. Thank you for contributing!"
 

 
 We have about 25 members and about 1,000 posts, so far, in just a month, with 
a wide range of topics discussed. If you have an open mind, or even a mostly 
closed one, with a ray of light within that wishes to grow brighter, I invite 
you to please check out this alternative to FFL. 
 

 Thanks!