Re: [FairfieldLife] Could Russel Brand change the dome policies?
The Movement gives a free pass to the celebs who give them publicity and make
it possible for the Movement to make more money. The rules are ignored for
them, but are still in force for the TM peons.
From: aryavazhi no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 7:55 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Could Russel Brand change the dome policies?
Obviously Russel is not only the posterboy for TM..With special attention
to Buck and Nabby
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Could Russel Brand change the dome policies?
You might be right, though I think he feels very indebted to TM. But he is discovering new things, here he seems to have discovered the Ashram principle: Russell Brand | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152653190763177set=vb.21641548176 https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152653190763177set=vb.21641548176 Russell Brand | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152653190763177set=vb.21641548176 We need to create a safe cradle-like society ... View on www.facebook.com https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152653190763177set=vb.21641548176 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : How do you know the TMO isn't frowning at the moment? Russell has an inquisitive mind and more free time to explore things. He might wind up learning something far more powerful than TM. Good on him! On 01/15/2015 07:09 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: The Movement gives a free pass to the celebs who give them publicity and make it possible for the Movement to make more money. The rules are ignored for them, but are still in force for the TM peons. From: aryavazhi no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 7:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Could Russel Brand change the dome policies? Obviously Russel is not only the posterboy for TM.. With special attention to Buck and Nabby
[FairfieldLife] A Frank Movie Review
Hard to say how Frank might go down with some here. It's another UK delight though some of it filmed in the US. It's about a musician who finds himself in a band where the lead singer wears a fake head. And the band is weird. Even weirder is the cast for this film. You have Scoot McNairy (though I barely recognized him from Halt and Catch Fire) and award winner Maggie Gyllenhaal playing the synth/theremin player. Plus another award winner playing the guy wearing the head but revealing who that is would be a spoiler. Curtis might love this film and Turq hate it. It's available on Netflix. I saw what was maybe a clip from the film in UK movie I watched the other night, might have been Filth. But there seems to be an acknowledgement to some (TV?) performer who did this in the credits. Maybe our UK friends can fill us in.
[FairfieldLife] Holy Wars
People like to criticize Maharishi for playing kiss-ass with horrible dictators, and yet... The intent was to make them want to bring TM into their country in a big way with the expectation that their country, despite their own horrible shortcomings, would spontaneously improve, just because so many people started practicing TM.. Violence, even/especially a 'just' war, is never a good solution if there's even a hint that something might improve things without violence. HOWARD ZINN: Holy Wars http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2010/1/8/howard_zinn_three_holy_wars http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2010/1/8/howard_zinn_three_holy_wars HOWARD ZINN: Holy Wars http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2010/1/8/howard_zinn_three_holy_wars Howard Zinn is an American historian, social critic, and activist. He is best known as author of the best-seller A People’s History of the United States. ... View on www.democr... http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2010/1/8/howard_zinn_three_holy_wars Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: AOL wants to make changing your religion illegal in India.
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar for law banning conversion http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/sri-sri-ravi-shankar-for-law-banning-conversion_1528004.html http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/sri-sri-ravi-shankar-for-law-banning-conversion_1528004.html Sri Sri Ravi Shankar for law banning conversion http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/sri-sri-ravi-shankar-for-law-banning-conversion_1528004.html Claiming that the controversy surrounding VHP's 'Ghar Wapsi' programme was political in nature and confined only to Parliament, spiritual gu... View on zeenews.india.com http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/sri-sri-ravi-shankar-for-law-banning-conversion_1528004.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Snowmen deemed anti-Islamic...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : So your British Bangers are going to have goat instead of pork in them? :-D Sausages having any actual meat in them at all will be a distinct improvement! On 01/14/2015 11:28 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : The madness is now unstoppable. Schoolbook authors have been told not to write about sausages or pigs for fear of causing offence. Guidance from leading educational publisher the Oxford University Press prohibits authors from including anything that could be perceived as pork-related in their books. [Yes - that's Oxford University Press!] Among the things prohibited in a text that was commissioned by OUP was the following: Pigs plus sausages, or anything else which could be perceived as pork The OUP says its guidelines exist because it needs to make its educational material available to as many people as possible. A spokesman said: ‘Many of the educational materials we publish in the UK are sold in more than 150 countries, and as such they need to consider a range of cultural differences and sensitivities. 'Our editorial guidelines are intended to help ensure that the resources that we produce can be disseminated to the widest possible audience.’ Only a bloody revolution is going to wrest power from these half-wits. LOL I agree totally, it's like the human race is happy to die of over-sensitivity! Is anyone really going to take offence at the sight of a pig? If they do they don't deserve to have their feeling pandered to. Drag em back to reality that's what I say. One almost wishes there was a satirical magazine that had the guts to confront these maniacs directly! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I wouldn't worry about him too much, Seventh. It's just Turquoise, after all, ranting as usual, distorting what others have said, creating a straw man argument, and generally being an asshole. Nothing new here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote : Okay, so just so I have this straight. This is the same Barry, who just a few days ago was talking about the superior Dutch approach to integrating their Muslim population, I presume by some measure of tolerance, and, horror, respect of their religious traditions, which, as practiced by the great majority of Muslims does not include the slaughter of people not part of their belief system. And I presume that when Barry interacts with some member of the Muslim population when he is getting a piece of pizza, or a cell phone charger*, he will find it necessary to inform the proprietor, or worker as to what a pile of shit is the religion he subscribes to. Is this enough to be thankful to God, that Barry's sphere of influence is limited to just four or five people on this site? (-: * okay, this is light hearted stereotype. okay, just chill. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : Yep, as I was saying a few days ago when Feste was urging us to respect Muslims' religious beliefs, how exactly are we supposed to feel anything but disgust for a group that really believes it's permissible to order a hit on anyone who creates an image of a human being? I know that the Guardian ran this story because they believe that this nut job cleric is out of the ordinary and a bit of a statistical outlier, but it is actually *standard Sunni Muslim dogma* that creating images of human beings is worshipping idols and thus punishable by death. Technically, the Charlie Hebdo murders would have been justified in these fanatics' eyes if they'd published completely reverential images of Mohammed. So I'm sorry, but anyone who dares to tell me that I have to respect these people's religion is as insane as they are. Anyone who believes this shit is either stuck in the Middle Ages or insane or both, and we have a responsibility to other sane human beings to point it out. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Snowmen deemed anti-Islamic... I think the silly season must have started early this year. But how sad to be art of a society where you feel you need to ask for permission to build a snowman... Saudi cleric issues fatwa on snowmen http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/12/saudi-arabia-snowmen-winter-fatwa Saudi cleric issues fatwa on snowmen Religious leader forbids building of anti-Islamic idols
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How cool in Fairfield?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Apparently our UK friends decided to send some London fog my way. Yesterday I could barely see across the street it was so thick. That's what we call a pea souper. Just like the good old days in London town but it doesn't happen much any more, probably since they banned the burning of coal, so it might have been something different - and less dangerous - for you... The bigger problem here in California is after a wet December, that if it kept up through the new year would have ended the drought, we are now half way through January and not a drop of rain. On 01/15/2015 05:16 AM, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Weather Underground says (in Deg F 'cuz Murica ain't no commie pinko state): Jan 10: -2 Jan 11: 17 Jan 12: -4 Jan 13: -7 http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KFFL/2015/1/15/MonthlyHistory.html#calendar http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KFFL/2015/1/15/MonthlyHistory.html#calendar ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hepa7@... mailto:hepa7@... wrote : Just curious, how cool was it in Fairfield (IA?) between Jan. 10th and Jan. 13th?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Could Russel Brand change the dome policies?
Is Russell Brand a sidha? Does he participate in teh Invincible America thing? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Here is some comments on a satirical site, you might be interested in. Obviously not everyone likes this new association. https://www.facebook.com/170255186340026/photos/a.359216714110538.83516.170255186340026/881754848523386/ https://www.facebook.com/170255186340026/photos/a.359216714110538.83516.170255186340026/881754848523386/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : The Movement gives a free pass to the celebs who give them publicity and make it possible for the Movement to make more money. The rules are ignored for them, but are still in force for the TM peons. From: aryavazhi no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 7:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Could Russel Brand change the dome policies? Obviously Russel is not only the posterboy for TM.. With special attention to Buck and Nabby
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion itself is a strawman
Ignorance is so think (in this world) you could cut it with a knife, Jerry Jarvis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote : The point is, fraudulent people use fraudulent religions as a smokescreen, to advance their own fraudulent agenda. The modern civilisation still hasn't reconciled itself with the darker side of islamic ideology. The educational system in these countries only makes it worse. They churn out mindless zombies. --- anartaxius@... wrote : Religious taboos are memes, concepts designed to protect ideas that do not stand up to scrutiny from being scrutinised by way of coercion and fear, an attempt to condition the mind, which is naturally curious, from directing its attention in the direction of such scrutiny. 'It will not do to investigate the subject of religion too closely, as it is apt to lead to Infidelity.' —Abraham Lincoln --- s3raphita@... wrote : Thanks. Yes, he seems to be making the same point as I just have. Re I don't think cowardice comes into it.: well, in The Guardian's case it seems not - judging from the article; but in may other cases fear is for sure playing a part. --- salyavin808 @... wrote : Je suis d'accord, though my instinct is to feel pity rather than disgust - and then Saudi Arabia publicly flogs a journalist for running a liberal website on the same day they condemn the killings in Paris and I'm disgusted too: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/11/flogging-global-outrage-saudi-arabia-silent http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/11/flogging-global-outrage-saudi-arabia-silent --- turquoiseb@... wrote : Yep, as I was saying a few days ago when Feste was urging us to respect Muslims' religious beliefs, how exactly are we supposed to feel anything but disgust for a group that really believes it's permissible to order a hit on anyone who creates an image of a human being? I know that the Guardian ran this story because they believe that this nut job cleric is out of the ordinary and a bit of a statistical outlier, but it is actually *standard Sunni Muslim dogma* that creating images of human beings is worshipping idols and thus punishable by death. Technically, the Charlie Hebdo murders would have been justified in these fanatics' eyes if they'd published completely reverential images of Mohammed. So I'm sorry, but anyone who dares to tell me that I have to respect these people's religion is as insane as they are. Anyone who believes this shit is either stuck in the Middle Ages or insane or both, and we have a responsibility to other sane human beings to point it out.
[FairfieldLife] AOL wants to make changing your religion illegal in India.
Conversions should not happen in any religion. There are many instances of conversion through allurements. That should also stop and a law should be enacted for this purpose. ~ Sri Sri Ravi Shankar as reported by Press Trust of India http://www.ptinews.com/news/5561199_Sri-Sri-Ravi-Shankar-for-law-banning-conversion.html http://www.ptinews.com/news/5561199_Sri-Sri-Ravi-Shankar-for-law-banning-conversion.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Could Russel Brand change the dome policies?
How do you know the TMO isn't frowning at the moment? Russell has an inquisitive mind and more free time to explore things. He might wind up learning something far more powerful than TM. Good on him! On 01/15/2015 07:09 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The Movement gives a free pass to the celebs who give them publicity and make it possible for the Movement to make more money. The rules are ignored for them, but are still in force for the TM peons. *From:* aryavazhi no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 15, 2015 7:55 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Could Russel Brand change the dome policies? Obviously Russel is not only the posterboy for TM.. With special attention to Buck and Nabby https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10300884_10152650766033177_8394554687926112446_n.jpg?oh=b27cb77e605d3ddf50c1ba8b310ac195oe=5531BB4C alt
[FairfieldLife] Re: Could Russel Brand change the dome policies?
Here is some comments on a satirical site, you might be interested in. Obviously not everyone likes this new association. https://www.facebook.com/170255186340026/photos/a.359216714110538.83516.170255186340026/881754848523386/ https://www.facebook.com/170255186340026/photos/a.359216714110538.83516.170255186340026/881754848523386/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : The Movement gives a free pass to the celebs who give them publicity and make it possible for the Movement to make more money. The rules are ignored for them, but are still in force for the TM peons. From: aryavazhi no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 7:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Could Russel Brand change the dome policies? Obviously Russel is not only the posterboy for TM.. With special attention to Buck and Nabby
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Snowmen deemed anti-Islamic...
So your British Bangers are going to have goat instead of pork in them? :-D On 01/14/2015 11:28 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : The madness is now unstoppable. Schoolbook authors have been told not to write about sausages or pigs for fear of causing offence. Guidance from leading educational publisher the Oxford University Press prohibits authors from including anything that could be perceived as pork-related in their books. [Yes - that's Oxford University Press!] Among the things prohibited in a text that was commissioned by OUP was the following: Pigs plus sausages, or anything else which could be perceived as pork The OUP says its guidelines exist because it needs to make its educational material available to as many people as possible. A spokesman said: ‘Many of the educational materials we publish in the UK are sold in more than 150 countries, and as such they need to consider a range of cultural differences and sensitivities. 'Our editorial guidelines are intended to help ensure that the resources that we produce can be disseminated to the widest possible audience.’ Only a bloody revolution is going to wrest power from these half-wits. LOL I agree totally, it's like the human race is happy to die of over-sensitivity! Is anyone really going to take offence at the sight of a pig? If they do they don't deserve to have their feeling pandered to. Drag em back to reality that's what I say. One almost wishes there was a satirical magazine that had the guts to confront these maniacs directly! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I wouldn't worry about him too much, Seventh. It's just Turquoise, after all, ranting as usual, distorting what others have said, creating a straw man argument, and generally being an asshole. Nothing new here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Okay, so just so I have this straight. This is the same Barry, who just a few days ago was talking about the superior Dutch approach to integrating their Muslim population, I presume by some measure of tolerance, and, horror, respect of their religious traditions, which, as practiced by the great majority of Muslims does not include the slaughter of people not part of their belief system. And I presume that when Barry interacts with some member of the Muslim population when he is getting a piece of pizza, or a cell phone charger*, he will find it necessary to inform the proprietor, or worker as to what a pile of shit is the religion he subscribes to. Is this enough to be thankful to God, that Barry's sphere of influence is limited to just four or five people on this site? (-: * okay, this is light hearted stereotype. okay, just chill. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : */Yep, as I was saying a few days ago when Feste was urging us to respect Muslims' religious beliefs, how exactly are we supposed to feel anything but disgust for a group that really believes it's permissible to order a hit on anyone who creates an image of a human being? /* */ /* */I know that the Guardian ran this story because they believe that this nut job cleric is out of the ordinary and a bit of a statistical outlier, but it is actually *standard Sunni Muslim dogma* that creating images of human beings is worshipping idols and thus punishable by death. Technically, the Charlie Hebdo murders would have been justified in these fanatics' eyes if they'd published completely reverential images of Mohammed./* */ /* */So I'm sorry, but anyone who dares to tell me that I have to respect these people's religion is as insane as they are. Anyone who believes this shit is either stuck in the Middle Ages or insane or both, and we have a responsibility to other sane human beings to point it out. /* *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:08 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Snowmen deemed anti-Islamic... I think the silly season must have started early this year. But how sad to be art of a society where you feel you need to ask for permission to build a snowman... Saudi cleric issues fatwa on snowmen http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/12/saudi-arabia-snowmen-winter-fatwa image http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/12/saudi-arabia-snowmen-winter-fatwa Saudi cleric issues fatwa on snowmen http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/12/saudi-arabia-snowmen-winter-fatwa Religious leader forbids building of anti-Islamic idols that might resemble human beings, after winter storm in north of country View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/12/saudi-arabia-snowmen-winter-fatwa Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How cool in Fairfield?
Apparently our UK friends decided to send some London fog my way. Yesterday I could barely see across the street it was so thick. The bigger problem here in California is after a wet December, that if it kept up through the new year would have ended the drought, we are now half way through January and not a drop of rain. On 01/15/2015 05:16 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Weather Underground says (in Deg F 'cuz Murica ain't no commie pinko state): Jan 10: -2 Jan 11: 17 Jan 12: -4 Jan 13: -7 http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KFFL/2015/1/15/MonthlyHistory.html#calendar ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, he...@hotmail.com wrote : Just curious, how cool was it in Fairfield (IA?) between Jan. 10th and Jan. 13th?
[FairfieldLife] Salman Rushdie and the But Brigade
Salman Rushie defending the right to free speech: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/salman-rushdie-defends-the-absolute-right-to-free-speech-against-the-but-brigade/ Kinda reminds me of the yes, but people we've seen over the years on FFL.
[FairfieldLife] Religion itself is a strawman
The point is, fraudulent people use fraudulent religions as a smokescreen, to advance their own fraudulent agenda. The modern civilisation still hasn't reconciled itself with the darker side of islamic ideology. The educational system in these countries only makes it worse. They churn out mindless zombies. --- anartaxius@... wrote : Religious taboos are memes, concepts designed to protect ideas that do not stand up to scrutiny from being scrutinised by way of coercion and fear, an attempt to condition the mind, which is naturally curious, from directing its attention in the direction of such scrutiny. 'It will not do to investigate the subject of religion too closely, as it is apt to lead to Infidelity.' —Abraham Lincoln --- s3raphita@... wrote : Thanks. Yes, he seems to be making the same point as I just have. Re I don't think cowardice comes into it.: well, in The Guardian's case it seems not - judging from the article; but in may other cases fear is for sure playing a part. --- salyavin808 @... wrote : Je suis d'accord, though my instinct is to feel pity rather than disgust - and then Saudi Arabia publicly flogs a journalist for running a liberal website on the same day they condemn the killings in Paris and I'm disgusted too: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/11/flogging-global-outrage-saudi-arabia-silent http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/11/flogging-global-outrage-saudi-arabia-silent --- turquoiseb@... wrote : Yep, as I was saying a few days ago when Feste was urging us to respect Muslims' religious beliefs, how exactly are we supposed to feel anything but disgust for a group that really believes it's permissible to order a hit on anyone who creates an image of a human being? I know that the Guardian ran this story because they believe that this nut job cleric is out of the ordinary and a bit of a statistical outlier, but it is actually *standard Sunni Muslim dogma* that creating images of human beings is worshipping idols and thus punishable by death. Technically, the Charlie Hebdo murders would have been justified in these fanatics' eyes if they'd published completely reverential images of Mohammed. So I'm sorry, but anyone who dares to tell me that I have to respect these people's religion is as insane as they are. Anyone who believes this shit is either stuck in the Middle Ages or insane or both, and we have a responsibility to other sane human beings to point it out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The pope is a dope:
This guy is way better than Pope Palpatine, but he's just flat out wrong in this case. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Another silly remark from the pontiff, I think he'd be better off saying you have to respect the right of others to hold religious beliefs but not the beliefs themselves. As for religion being off-limits to criticism, that's really convenient isn't it? No more having to weigh your beliefs against knowledge in the harsh glare of the real world, just demand that no one else questions them either and you can stay in your bubble. But then if he did he'd be redundant so he kinda has to keep the illusion going somehow. Pope Francis: there are limits to freedom of expression http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/pope-francis-limits-to-freedom-of-expression http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/pope-francis-limits-to-freedom-of-expression Pope Francis: there are limits to freedom of expression http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/pope-francis-limits-to-freedom-of-expression Pontiff defends freedom of expression en route to the Philippines but says ‘you cannot insult the faith of others’ View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/pope-francis-limits-to-freedom-of-expression Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fw: Fwd: Subject: A Texas Goodbye
---BeginMessage--- On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 12:58 PM, The movie American Sniper, starring Bradley Cooper and directed by Clint Eastwood, was released on December 25th. It's the story of Chris Kyle. It promises to be another Clint Eastwood classic film. A TEXAS GOODBYE Although this event took place almost two years ago, it still tells a great story. This is why America will remain strong. We take care of our own as well as others who may not deserve taking care of. I just wanted to share with you all that out of a horrible tragedy we were blessed by so many people. Chris Kyle was Derek's teammate through 10 years of training and battle. They both suffer/suffered from PTSD to some extent and took great care of each other because of it. 2006 in Ramadi was horrible for young men that never had any more aggressive physical contact with another human than on a Texas football field. They lost many friends. Chris became the armed services number #1 sniper of all time. Not something he was happy about, other than the fact that in so doing, he saved a lot of American lives. Three years ago, his wife Taya asked him to leave the SEAL teams as he had a huge bounty on his head by Al Qaeda. He did and wrote the book The American Sniper. 100% of the proceeds from the book went to two of the SEAL families who had lost their sons in Iraq . That was the kind of guy Chris was. He formed a company in Dallas to train military, police and I think firemen as far as protecting themselves in difficult situations. He also formed a foundation to work with military people suffering from PTSD. Chris was a giver not a taker. He, along with a friend and neighbor, Chad Littlefield, were murdered trying to help a young man that had served six months in Iraq and claimed to have PTSD. Now I need to tell you about all of the blessings. Southwest Airlines flew in any SEAL and their family from any airport they flew into free of charge. The employees donated buddy passes and one lady worked for four days without much of a break to see that it happened. Volunteers were at both airports in Dallas to drive them to the hotel. The Marriott Hotel reduced their rates to $45 a night and cleared the hotel for only SEALs and family. The Midlothian, TX Police Department paid the $45 a night for each room. I would guess there were about 200 people staying at the hotel, 100 of them were SEALs. Two large buses were chartered (an unknown donor paid the bill) to transport people to the different events and they also had a few rental cars (donated). The police and secret service were on duty 24 hours during the stay at our hotel. At the Kyle house, the Texas DPS parked a large motor home in front to block the view from reporters. It remained there the entire five days for the SEALs to congregate in and all to use the restroom so as not to have to go in the house. Taya, their two small children and both sets of parents were staying in the home. Only a hand full of SEALs went into the home as they had different duties and meetings were held sometimes on a hourly basis. It was a huge coordination of many different events and security. Derek was assigned to be a Pall Bearer, to escort Chris' body when it was transferred from the Midlothian Funeral Home to the Arlington Funeral Home, and to be with Taya. A tough job. Taya seldom came out of her bedroom. The house was full with people from the church and other family members that would come each day to help. I spent one morning in a bedroom with Chris? mom and the next morning with Chad Littlefield's parents (the other man murdered with Chris). A tough job. George W Bush and his wife Laura met and talked to everyone on the Seal Team one on one. They went behind closed doors with Taya for quite a while. They had prayer with us all. You can tell when people were sincere and caring Nolan Ryan sent his cooking team, a huge grill and lots of steaks, chicken and hamburgers. They set up in the front yard and fed people all day long including the 200 SEALs and their families. The next day a local BBQ restaurant set up a buffet in front of the house and fed all once again. Food was plentiful and all were taken care of. The family's church kept those inside the house well fed. Jerry Jones, the man everyone loves to hate, was a rock star. He made sure that we all were taken care of. His wife and he were just making sure everyone was taken care of?.Class... He donated the use of Cowboy Stadium for the services as it was determined that so many wanted to attend. The charter buses transported us to the stadium on Monday at 10:30 am. Every car, bus, motorcycle was searched with bomb dogs and police. I am not sure if kooks were making threats trying to make a name for themselves or if so many SEALs in one place was a
[FairfieldLife] Re: AOL wants to make changing your religion illegal in India.
It's often said that there will be a clash of civilisations between Islam and the west, but I'm starting to think it will be between the sane and the religious. They all fundamentally agree with each other, just today we had the pope advocating a violent response for blasphemy - no more turning the other cheek then! Maybe we'll split the world up into areas where you can be safe not believing in the supernatural. I vote the TBs have the Sahara, or maybe Antartica, in empty places like that they can tread on eggshells round each others precious sensitivities and the occasional bombing and bit of mass slaughter won't affect any innocent wildlife. We'll have the nice bits where we can evolve in peace. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Conversions should not happen in any religion. There are many instances of conversion through allurements. That should also stop and a law should be enacted for this purpose. ~ Sri Sri Ravi Shankar as reported by Press Trust of India http://www.ptinews.com/news/5561199_Sri-Sri-Ravi-Shankar-for-law-banning-conversion.html http://www.ptinews.com/news/5561199_Sri-Sri-Ravi-Shankar-for-law-banning-conversion.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Xeno, The Romans back then were worshipping pagan gods. I tend to think that the people were accepting them as part of the state religion, but not because they believed in them. The educated Romans more likely knew about Greek philosophy but regarded it more as an intellectual pursuit rather than a subject that had immediate political application. You may differ and question the historicity of Jesus. But the fact remains that Christians swept the ancient world paradigm and changed the religion of the Roman Empire into Christianity. For me, I find it hard to believe that the people back then would accept a new religion based on a work of fiction. Also, many theologians and bible scholars have studied the gospels and analyzed them with a fine tooth comb. Their studies have shown that a person by the name of Jesus existed. Specifically, an ancient Jewish writer by the name of Josephus had corroborated the existence of Jesus who once lived in Palestine. The Romans back then were worshipping the Roman gods, the term pagan is used derisively by Christians today to signify people who do not believe in the monotheistic god of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. It is used much like 'heathen'. It also refers to pantheists and neo-pagans. Originally paganus (Latin) meant you were a hick, but was applied by the early Christian church to non-Christians. For example, Jupiter, the primary Roman god is derived from a proto-Indo-European god Dyēus pəter (shining father) via a Vedic sky god Dyaus Pita via the Greek Zeus Pitar. The word etymology is pretty clear here. Dyēus pəter Dyaus Pita Zeus Pitar Jupiter Note that most religious have a strong tendency to think of their religion as true and those of others as fiction, not true, because obviously other religions have a different story to tell with different characters which are not the one you 'know' are right. The Romans sometimes considered Christians cannibals because of the Eucharist ceremony. In general Christians were regarded by the Romans as atheists and excessively devotional and excessively enthusiastic in their religious observances, far more into believing and activity than was reasonably necessary. It wasn't until the fourth century that Christianity took over in Rome by way of a sly decision by Constantine, the first Roman Emperor to adopt Christianity, some 300 years after the beginnings of Christianity. The historicity of Jesus is certainly difficult to ascertain. Nothing is certain. The Jew Titus Flavius Josephus fought the Romans in first century Jerusalem, and the Jews lost. He proved useful as a translator and his life was spared and became a Roman citizen after being freed by Emperor Vespasian. His writings are considered by Christians as the primary non-Christian historical source for information about Jesus. The problem is no original manuscripts exist. The earliest are from the 11th century, some thousand years after the events in question. About a dozen Christian writers in the first 200 years of Christianity mention Josephus but never mention the passage about Jesus. The first such mention appears in the year 324 in the writings of Eusebius and are regarded (except by conservative Christian sects) to be interpolations in Josephus's text, probably by Eusebius himself. The passage about Jesus is inserted in a section on Pontius Pilatus, and breaks the flow of text where Josephus is describing various difficulties Jews had with Pilate's projects and behaviour toward their religion. The passage about Jesus sticks out like a sore thumb in the flow of the text because of its theological flavour, but it is in the most likely spot a forger could find to insert something like this. The Christian writings thought to be the earliest are some of the letters attributed to Paul. The gospels come later, and three of them (Mark, Matthew, and Luke) seem to be a composites from earlier common sources though Mark is the roughest and earliest compilation. The gospel of John came later. The earliest complete manuscripts are from the fourth century, and some fragments of gospels and mentions of them in the writings of early Christian fathers are found from the second century, so nothing earlier than about 100 years after Jesus supposedly lived. The Gospels at any rate are not historical documents, but writings designed to inspire religious belief and sentiment. There are so many contradictions between them as to what happened, it is impossible to come to what actually may have happened. Paul, in his letters seems mostly unaware of Jesus the man and his history which is very odd, some suspect that the Jesus passages might be additions. Paul speaks mostly of the Christ, not Jesus, often as if the Christ is an abstract spiritual principle. So finding out just what transpired in first century Palestine is
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[FairfieldLife] Anime review: Your lie in April
四月は君の嘘 (literally: April is your lie) is a Japanese comic with 9 volumes thus far, that has been turned into an anime. The story is about Kousei Arima, most famous of all Japan's musical prodigies, whose death of his mother when he was 11 years old, led to a psychotic break during a piano recital where he could no longer hear himself play. Three years later, Kousei's friends trick him into attending a performance by another prodigy his own age, Kaori Miyazono. Kousei's strict adherence to the score led to his nickname, the human metronome, and Kaori's decision to turn a competition recital of Beethoven's Kreutzer Sonata into an improvisational piece, leads to judges tearing up her scorecard, the audience giving her a standing ovation, and Kousei's instant--albeit dumbfounded--infatuation, even though his official role was to be Friend A (an actual literary term in Japanese teen-oriented drama) during a double-date. Kaori's mercurial personality and dedication to music combine to gradually force Kousei to confront his own demons that prevent him from hearing his own music, and lead him back towards the concert stage. The comic version started only 2 years ago, and has already received one major literary award in the genre and a nomination for another. The anime adaptation is only 3 months old, and is already one of my all-time favorites, even though the story is such that it could logically end at any moment. The very name of the story and the sub-text concerning Kaori's health implies that the story will be short-lived, but who knows? Anyone who has ever been through the biting-your-hands-til-they-bleed, head-pounding, hand-cramping, practice-until-you-collapse from exhaustion and/or lack-of-food, OCD behavior mandated to become a professional classical musician, can appreciate the nuanced story being told. If ever there can be a worthy short introduction to the more refined aspects of anime and japanese graphic story-telling, this is it. L
Re: [FairfieldLife] AOL wants to make changing your religion illegal in India.
Well we certainly wouldn't want those untouchables and other lower castes
running off and joining another religion. Who would we look down our noses at?
From: aryavazhi no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 9:15 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] AOL wants to make changing your religion illegal in
India.
Conversions should not happen in any religion. There are many instances of
conversion through allurements. That should also stop and a law should be
enacted for this purpose. ~ Sri Sri Ravi Shankar as reported by Press Trust of
India
http://www.ptinews.com/news/5561199_Sri-Sri-Ravi-Shankar-for-law-banning-conversion.html
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Anime review: Your lie in April
From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Anyone who has ever been through the biting-your-hands-til-they-bleed, head-pounding, hand-cramping, practice-until-you-collapse from exhaustion and/or lack-of-food, OCD behavior mandated to become a professional classical musician, can appreciate the nuanced story being told. This should guarantee it a huge audience. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: AOL wants to make changing your religion illegal in India.
Well said. We'll get real chefs and good food, too, while the non-sane
religious nuts eat only kale.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 11:37 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: AOL wants to make changing your religion illegal
in India.
It's often said that there will be a clash of civilisations between Islam and
the west, but I'm starting to think it will be between the sane and the
religious. They all fundamentally agree with each other, just today we had the
pope advocating a violent response for blasphemy - no more turning the other
cheek then!
Maybe we'll split the world up into areas where you can be safe not believing
in the supernatural. I vote the TBs have the Sahara, or maybe Antartica, in
empty places like that they can tread on eggshells round each others precious
sensitivities and the occasional bombing and bit of mass slaughter won't affect
any innocent wildlife.
We'll have the nice bits where we can evolve in peace.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Conversions should not happen in any religion. There are many instancesof
conversion through allurements. That should also stop and a lawshould be
enacted for this purpose. ~ Sri Sri Ravi Shankar as reportedby Press Trust of
India
http://www.ptinews.com/news/5561199_Sri-Sri-Ravi-Shankar-for-law-banning-conversion.html
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species
Xeno, Thanks for your thorough analysis. Perhaps, you can summarize for us the rise and fall of the Roman Empire. And, why did Latin die as a language despite its apparent usefulness and application in the ancient known world? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Xeno, The Romans back then were worshipping pagan gods. I tend to think that the people were accepting them as part of the state religion, but not because they believed in them. The educated Romans more likely knew about Greek philosophy but regarded it more as an intellectual pursuit rather than a subject that had immediate political application. You may differ and question the historicity of Jesus. But the fact remains that Christians swept the ancient world paradigm and changed the religion of the Roman Empire into Christianity. For me, I find it hard to believe that the people back then would accept a new religion based on a work of fiction. Also, many theologians and bible scholars have studied the gospels and analyzed them with a fine tooth comb. Their studies have shown that a person by the name of Jesus existed. Specifically, an ancient Jewish writer by the name of Josephus had corroborated the existence of Jesus who once lived in Palestine. The Romans back then were worshipping the Roman gods, the term pagan is used derisively by Christians today to signify people who do not believe in the monotheistic god of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. It is used much like 'heathen'. It also refers to pantheists and neo-pagans. Originally paganus (Latin) meant you were a hick, but was applied by the early Christian church to non-Christians. For example, Jupiter, the primary Roman god is derived from a proto-Indo-European god Dyēus pəter (shining father) via a Vedic sky god Dyaus Pita via the Greek Zeus Pitar. The word etymology is pretty clear here. Dyēus pəter Dyaus Pita Zeus Pitar Jupiter Note that most religious have a strong tendency to think of their religion as true and those of others as fiction, not true, because obviously other religions have a different story to tell with different characters which are not the one you 'know' are right. The Romans sometimes considered Christians cannibals because of the Eucharist ceremony. In general Christians were regarded by the Romans as atheists and excessively devotional and excessively enthusiastic in their religious observances, far more into believing and activity than was reasonably necessary. It wasn't until the fourth century that Christianity took over in Rome by way of a sly decision by Constantine, the first Roman Emperor to adopt Christianity, some 300 years after the beginnings of Christianity. The historicity of Jesus is certainly difficult to ascertain. Nothing is certain. The Jew Titus Flavius Josephus fought the Romans in first century Jerusalem, and the Jews lost. He proved useful as a translator and his life was spared and became a Roman citizen after being freed by Emperor Vespasian. His writings are considered by Christians as the primary non-Christian historical source for information about Jesus. The problem is no original manuscripts exist. The earliest are from the 11th century, some thousand years after the events in question. About a dozen Christian writers in the first 200 years of Christianity mention Josephus but never mention the passage about Jesus. The first such mention appears in the year 324 in the writings of Eusebius and are regarded (except by conservative Christian sects) to be interpolations in Josephus's text, probably by Eusebius himself. The passage about Jesus is inserted in a section on Pontius Pilatus, and breaks the flow of text where Josephus is describing various difficulties Jews had with Pilate's projects and behaviour toward their religion. The passage about Jesus sticks out like a sore thumb in the flow of the text because of its theological flavour, but it is in the most likely spot a forger could find to insert something like this. The Christian writings thought to be the earliest are some of the letters attributed to Paul. The gospels come later, and three of them (Mark, Matthew, and Luke) seem to be a composites from earlier common sources though Mark is the roughest and earliest compilation. The gospel of John came later. The earliest complete manuscripts are from the fourth century, and some fragments of gospels and mentions of them in the writings of early Christian fathers are found from the second century, so nothing earlier than about 100 years after Jesus supposedly lived. The Gospels at any rate are not historical documents, but writings designed to inspire religious belief and sentiment. There are so many contradictions between them as to what happened, it is impossible to come to what actually may have happened. Paul, in his letters seems
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe
From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Re How did God acquire the male sex ('Him')?:
Can't you guess?
Re Russell and co., certainly did not care for metaphysics of the
scholasticism sort, but I doubt the arguments about being would have scared
him:
Funnily enough Russell himself once recalled that when he was a young man he
was one day mulling over the ontological argument and it suddenly hit him with
the force of a revelation that the argument was valid and so God must indeed
exist. That sense of conviction only lasted a few minutes and then he started
seeing flaws in the reasoning . . . He never looked back.
The ontological argument - which relies on using the semantics of language to
insist on momentous consequences - has always lent itself to parody. For
example:
God is the Perfect Being, so . . .Nothing is more perfect than God, so . . .God
is more perfect than Barry, so . . .Nothing is more perfect than Barry, so . .
.Barry is God.
Silly wabbit. Barry is FAR more perfect than God, for the simple reason that
God doesn't exist.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :
Re: I do not understand how a vacuum cleaner would have an accidental
existence, considering what it takes to bring one into existence. This seems to
be an unsupported assumption taken as an axiom.:
By accidental they don't always imply a chance event. They mean contingent,
ie *not* necessary but dependent on something else. Vacuum cleaners had to be
invented by someone.
Re Also defining something as having necessary existence does not prove that
that existence is necessary. For example eye liner makeup could be defined as
having necessary existence.:
Eye-liner could indeed by *defined* as having necessary existence but no one
would fall for it as it clearly doesn't. It's trickier with GOD as it does
strike one as odd that God should just *happen* to exist. Surely any God that
measures up to what the religious have thought of as the Perfect Being couldn't
depend for His existing on a lucky break or on something outside Him?
How did God acquire the male sex ('Him')?. That slip alone reveals a certain
limitation and bias imposed by thought on the concept, and would imply there is
something outside of God that shaped Perfect Being a certain way, in a
dependent way. To my way of thinking there is no way there could be a verbal
answer to the question of being.
I agree it's a sneaky argument. It is amusing though that modern logic was
developed in order to defuse the ontological argument so it clearly scared the
shit out of Bertrand Russell co.
Russell and co., certainly did not care for metaphysics of the scholasticism
sort, but I doubt the arguments about being would have scared him a bit, and
Russell did seem to have a sense of metaphysics, though not of the religious
kind, but a priori knowledge, unlike some of his followers like Carnap and
Ayer, who sought to eliminate metaphysics entirely. The curious thing for me is
as a result of experiences resulting from meditation, my ability to conceive of
metaphysics simply vanished one day. Perhaps time will bring a different
understanding at some point, but the merging of what I used to call
transcendence with normal everyday experience makes it ludicrous to imagine
something beyond what is everyday life. This certainly seems contrary to what
people seem to expect from this process, but it would be a logical outcome of
unification. This does not mean new aspects of experience could not be
discovered, such as the kind of knowledge gained using a powerful telescope to
extend the senses and interpreting that using mathematics and logic, but these
things are not beyond the awareness but part and parcel of it.
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[FairfieldLife] Charlie Hebdo
Because I am almost certainly the only person on this forum able to hold an actual copy of the latest issue of Charlie Hebdo in their hands, I guess I should comment on it. I think it's pretty respectful, overall, and of almost all parties involved. (Some deserve no respect.) It's a combination of new socio-political cartoons and writing and old socio-political cartoons and writing, published by the...uh, you ready for this...survivors of the last attempt to publish socio-political cartoons and writing. When was the last time you had to put YOUR life on the line by writing or drawing something and pressing Enter, eh?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe
Re How did God acquire the male sex ('Him')?:
Can't you guess?
Re Russell and co., certainly did not care for metaphysics of the
scholasticism sort, but I doubt the arguments about being would have scared
him:
Funnily enough Russell himself once recalled that when he was a young man he
was one day mulling over the ontological argument and it suddenly hit him with
the force of a revelation that the argument was valid and so God must indeed
exist. That sense of conviction only lasted a few minutes and then he started
seeing flaws in the reasoning . . . He never looked back.
The ontological argument - which relies on using the semantics of language to
insist on momentous consequences - has always lent itself to parody. For
example:
God is the Perfect Being, so . . .
Nothing is more perfect than God, so . . .
God is more perfect than Barry, so . . .
Nothing is more perfect than Barry, so . . .
Barry is God.
Apologies for giving you nightmares.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :
Re: I do not understand how a vacuum cleaner would have an accidental
existence, considering what it takes to bring one into existence. This seems to
be an unsupported assumption taken as an axiom.:
By accidental they don't always imply a chance event.
They mean contingent, ie *not* necessary but dependent on something else.
Vacuum cleaners had to be invented by someone.
Re Also defining something as having necessary existence does not prove that
that existence is necessary. For example eye liner makeup could be defined as
having necessary existence.:
Eye-liner could indeed by *defined* as having necessary existence but no one
would fall for it as it clearly doesn't. It's trickier with GOD as it does
strike one as odd that God should just *happen* to exist. Surely any God that
measures up to what the religious have thought of as the Perfect Being couldn't
depend for His existing on a lucky break or on something outside Him?
How did God acquire the male sex ('Him')?. That slip alone reveals a certain
limitation and bias imposed by thought on the concept, and would imply there is
something outside of God that shaped Perfect Being a certain way, in a
dependent way. To my way of thinking there is no way there could be a verbal
answer to the question of being.
I agree it's a sneaky argument. It is amusing though that modern logic was
developed in order to defuse the ontological argument so it clearly scared the
shit out of Bertrand Russell co.
Russell and co., certainly did not care for metaphysics of the scholasticism
sort, but I doubt the arguments about being would have scared him a bit, and
Russell did seem to have a sense of metaphysics, though not of the religious
kind, but a priori knowledge, unlike some of his followers like Carnap and
Ayer, who sought to eliminate metaphysics entirely. The curious thing for me is
as a result of experiences resulting from meditation, my ability to conceive of
metaphysics simply vanished one day. Perhaps time will bring a different
understanding at some point, but the merging of what I used to call
transcendence with normal everyday experience makes it ludicrous to imagine
something beyond what is everyday life. This certainly seems contrary to what
people seem to expect from this process, but it would be a logical outcome of
unification. This does not mean new aspects of experience could not be
discovered, such as the kind of knowledge gained using a powerful telescope to
extend the senses and interpreting that using mathematics and logic, but these
things are not beyond the awareness but part and parcel of it.
[FairfieldLife] Welcome to the new age
A new epoch known as the Anthropocene began when the first atomic bomb was detonated in the New Mexico in 1945, scientists believe. http://tinyurl.com/n32jsm5 http://tinyurl.com/n32jsm5
[FairfieldLife] Re: R. Crumb on Mohammed's ass
Re Watch The Guardian editor explain why The Guardian did not reprint them.: The online edition of The Guardian did reprint the Charlie Hebdo cover (yeah, it surprised me also). They preceded it with the following alert: Warning: this article contains the image of the magazine cover, which some may find offensive. Charlie Hebdo: first cover since terror attack depicts prophet Muhammad http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/13/charlie-hebdo-cover-magazine-prophet-muhammad http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/13/charlie-hebdo-cover-magazine-prophet-muhammad Charlie Hebdo: first cover since terror attack depicts p... http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/13/charlie-hebdo-cover-magazine-prophet-muhammad French satirical magazine’s surviving columnist says cover is a call to forgive the terrorists who murdered her colleagues last week View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/13/charlie-hebdo-cover-magazine-prophet-muhammad Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Watch the Guardian editor explain why the Guardian did not reprint them. The argument was that every journal has its own voice, and these cartoons do not represent the voice of the Guardian. They were written for another publication, another readership. (He explains it much better than that -- it's a few days since I watched it.) I don't think cowardice comes into it. The Guardian view on Charlie Hebdo: show solidarity, but in your own voice | Editorial http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/08/guardian-view-charlie-hebdo-show-solidarity-own-voice http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/08/guardian-view-charlie-hebdo-show-solidarity-own-voice The Guardian view on Charlie Hebdo: show solidarity, but... http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/08/guardian-view-charlie-hebdo-show-solidarity-own-voice Editorial: Journalists were murdered for exercising free speech. They trampled on religious taboos. But the principal conflict is not between liberty and majority M... View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/08/guardian-view-charlie-hebdo-show-solidarity-own-voice Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : One issue that has cropped up in recent days is where we've had many pundits criticizing newspapers for not re-printing the Mohammed cartoons to show solidarity with the murdered journalists of Charlie Hebdo. The offending editors are (correctly) being accused of cowardice. I've mixed feelings about this one. What I mean is: suppose some idiot were to publish an article claiming the Holocaust never happened. Then further suppose that a Jewish activist group murdered this idiot and announced that anyone who followed his example and dared to print such denials of Jewish suffering would be likewise assassinated. Now, I believe that people can express any opinion they like so I'd condemn the killing without reservation. But if I were a newspaper or magazine editor would I feel under an obligation to *myself* print the Holocaust-denying article? Surely not. I know the situations are not strictly comparable but I'm sure you can see where I'm coming from. Any thoughts? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re But whether Charlie will approve of the sort of people that turned up for the defend free speech rally remains to be seen.: Yes. The midget Sarkozy is being mocked on social media after he pushed his way to the front row of the politicians' rally. These people have no shame. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : The cover of the latest edition of satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo has been published in French media, and depicts the Prophet Muhammad. The cover shows the Prophet holding a sign reading I am Charlie, below the words all is forgiven. Brilliant. I can't see how anyone would fail to find it amusing. Open season. LOL I'm sure that Allah the merciful will approve.. But whether Charlie will approve of the sort of people that turned up for the defend free speech rally remains to be seen. In the front row you've got Vladimir Putin - who recently signed into law legislation forbidding transexual people from driving. Benyamin Netanyahu, Mohammad Abbas? Netanyahu was actually *officially* asked not to come by President Hollande. He ignored it and came anyway, and used his appearance to stir up fear among French Jews. What a putz. I noticed he was encouraging more immigration to Israel, there
[FairfieldLife] How cool in Fairfield?
Just curious, how cool was it in Fairfield (IA?) between Jan. 10th and Jan. 13th?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Snowmen deemed anti-Islamic...
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : The madness is now unstoppable. Schoolbook authors have been told not to write about sausages or pigs for fear of causing offence. Guidance from leading educational publisher the Oxford University Press prohibits authors from including anything that could be perceived as pork-related in their books. [Yes - that's Oxford University Press!] Among the things prohibited in a text that was commissioned by OUP was the following: Pigs plus sausages, or anything else which could be perceived as pork The OUP says its guidelines exist because it needs to make its educational material available to as many people as possible. A spokesman said: ‘Many of the educational materials we publish in the UK are sold in more than 150 countries, and as such they need to consider a range of cultural differences and sensitivities. 'Our editorial guidelines are intended to help ensure that the resources that we produce can be disseminated to the widest possible audience.’ Only a bloody revolution is going to wrest power from these half-wits. LOL I agree totally, it's like the human race is happy to die of over-sensitivity! Is anyone really going to take offence at the sight of a pig? If they do they don't deserve to have their feeling pandered to. Drag em back to reality that's what I say. One almost wishes there was a satirical magazine that had the guts to confront these maniacs directly! I guess even the phrase When pigs fly is a no-no these days. Gotta use something more politically correct. Oh, wait...that's not it...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Could Russel Brand change the dome policies?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Could Russel Brand change the dome policies?
Russell Brand - Russell Brand's Photos | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/RussellBrand/photos/pb.21641548176.-220752.1421326927./10152650766168177/?type=1theater https://www.facebook.com/RussellBrand/photos/pb.21641548176.-220752.1421326927./10152650766168177/?type=1theater Russell Brand - Russell Brand's Photos | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/RussellBrand/photos/pb.21641548176.-220752.1421326927./10152650766168177/?type=1theater Russell Brand posted this photo on 2015-01-08. 1168 likes. 197 comments. 53 shares. View on www.facebook.com https://www.facebook.com/RussellBrand/photos/pb.21641548176.-220752.1421326927./10152650766168177/?type=1theater Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Obviously Russel is not only the posterboy for TM.. With special attention to Buck and Nabby
[FairfieldLife] Could Russel Brand change the dome policies?
Obviously Russel is not only the posterboy for TM.. With special attention to Buck and Nabby
[FairfieldLife] Re: How cool in Fairfield?
Weather Underground says (in Deg F 'cuz Murica ain't no commie pinko state): Jan 10: -2 Jan 11: 17 Jan 12: -4 Jan 13: -7 http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KFFL/2015/1/15/MonthlyHistory.html#calendar http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KFFL/2015/1/15/MonthlyHistory.html#calendar ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, he...@hotmail.com wrote : Just curious, how cool was it in Fairfield (IA?) between Jan. 10th and Jan. 13th?
Re: [FairfieldLife] How cool in Fairfield?
Well... for some there , it was totally cool, while others were totally bummed
out.
From: he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 12:02 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] How cool in Fairfield?
Just curious, how cool was it in Fairfield (IA?) between Jan. 10th and Jan.
13th?
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[FairfieldLife] The Competitive Foursome: Music As Soap Opera
Just sayin'... https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152094507698546
[FairfieldLife] The pope is a dope:
Another silly remark from the pontiff, I think he'd be better off saying you have to respect the right of others to hold religious beliefs but not the beliefs themselves. As for religion being off-limits to criticism, that's really convenient isn't it? No more having to weigh your beliefs against knowledge in the harsh glare of the real world, just demand that no one else questions them either and you can stay in your bubble. But then if he did he'd be redundant so he kinda has to keep the illusion going somehow. Pope Francis: there are limits to freedom of expression http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/pope-francis-limits-to-freedom-of-expression http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/pope-francis-limits-to-freedom-of-expression Pope Francis: there are limits to freedom of expression http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/pope-francis-limits-to-freedom-of-expression Pontiff defends freedom of expression en route to the Philippines but says ‘you cannot insult the faith of others’ View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/pope-francis-limits-to-freedom-of-expression Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Snowmen deemed anti-Islamic...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : So your British Bangers are going to have goat instead of pork in them? :-D Sausages having any actual meat in them at all will be a distinct improvement! For FFLifers in the UK I recommend that you buy the (German) bratwurst sausages from Lidl. Ludicrously cheap and yet morish. Like British bangers used to taste like. They're half the size of a regular sausage - just eat twice as many. On 01/14/2015 11:28 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : The madness is now unstoppable. Schoolbook authors have been told not to write about sausages or pigs for fear of causing offence. Guidance from leading educational publisher the Oxford University Press prohibits authors from including anything that could be perceived as pork-related in their books. [Yes - that's Oxford University Press!] Among the things prohibited in a text that was commissioned by OUP was the following: Pigs plus sausages, or anything else which could be perceived as pork The OUP says its guidelines exist because it needs to make its educational material available to as many people as possible. A spokesman said: ‘Many of the educational materials we publish in the UK are sold in more than 150 countries, and as such they need to consider a range of cultural differences and sensitivities. 'Our editorial guidelines are intended to help ensure that the resources that we produce can be disseminated to the widest possible audience.’ Only a bloody revolution is going to wrest power from these half-wits. LOL I agree totally, it's like the human race is happy to die of over-sensitivity! Is anyone really going to take offence at the sight of a pig? If they do they don't deserve to have their feeling pandered to. Drag em back to reality that's what I say. One almost wishes there was a satirical magazine that had the guts to confront these maniacs directly! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I wouldn't worry about him too much, Seventh. It's just Turquoise, after all, ranting as usual, distorting what others have said, creating a straw man argument, and generally being an asshole. Nothing new here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote : Okay, so just so I have this straight. This is the same Barry, who just a few days ago was talking about the superior Dutch approach to integrating their Muslim population, I presume by some measure of tolerance, and, horror, respect of their religious traditions, which, as practiced by the great majority of Muslims does not include the slaughter of people not part of their belief system. And I presume that when Barry interacts with some member of the Muslim population when he is getting a piece of pizza, or a cell phone charger*, he will find it necessary to inform the proprietor, or worker as to what a pile of shit is the religion he subscribes to. Is this enough to be thankful to God, that Barry's sphere of influence is limited to just four or five people on this site? (-: * okay, this is light hearted stereotype. okay, just chill. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : Yep, as I was saying a few days ago when Feste was urging us to respect Muslims' religious beliefs, how exactly are we supposed to feel anything but disgust for a group that really believes it's permissible to order a hit on anyone who creates an image of a human being? I know that the Guardian ran this story because they believe that this nut job cleric is out of the ordinary and a bit of a statistical outlier, but it is actually *standard Sunni Muslim dogma* that creating images of human beings is worshipping idols and thus punishable by death. Technically, the Charlie Hebdo murders would have been justified in these fanatics' eyes if they'd published completely reverential images of Mohammed. So I'm sorry, but anyone who dares to tell me that I have to respect these people's religion is as insane as they are. Anyone who believes this shit is either stuck in the Middle Ages or insane or both, and we have a responsibility to other sane human beings to point it out. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Snowmen deemed anti-Islamic... I think the silly season must have started early this year.
