date:20150403

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brand rejected by Scientology?

2015-04-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]

Why do non-comformists have to worry about teh Age of Enlightenment and why 
would TM teachers be worried about it? 

 I mean, what is wrong with being an enlightened non-conformist?
 

 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'd have thought he'd be perfect, they could show how effective their 
programmes are by transforming his life. Or not. I think he'd be more likely to 
expose any wrong doing than most celebs.
 

 It's always telling when people get thrown out of utopian cults. I used to ask 
TM teachers where the non-conformists would go in the age of enlightenment and 
they'd just look blank like they hadn't really thought it through. After all, 
if you can guarantee perfection for people because of an innocent technique and 
that technique doesn't work for some or it turns out that there's more to being 
a member of the gang than an innocent technique then you've clearly been lying 
about something.
 

 Seems to me that every utopian group attracts the sort of people it needs to 
function as a closed order and anyone who rocks the boat needs to be thrown out 
to keep everyone else happy in the delusion that the perfect society they'e 
created would work when scaled up to greater society. It wouldn't of course, 
but the feeling of superiority the cultists get from "knowing" they have the 
answer because their group functions perfectly is a powerful trip and worth the 
occasional casualty
 

 

 Why Tom Cruise rejected Russell Brand from the Church of Scientology 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/russell-brand-rejected-by-the-church-of-scientology-because-tom-cruise-thought-he-was-too-much-of-a-troublemaker-10150818.html

 
 
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/russell-brand-rejected-by-the-church-of-scientology-because-tom-cruise-thought-he-was-too-much-of-a-troublemaker-10150818.html
 
 Why Tom Cruise rejected Russell Brand from the Ch... 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/russell-brand-rejected-by-the-church-of-scientology-because-tom-cruise-thought-he-was-too-much-of-a-troublemaker-10150818.html
 Russell Brand has been vocal about his devotion to the Hare Krishna movement. 
But it seems Indian spirituality isn’t the only aspect of religion he’s pursued 
in...


 
 View on www.independent.co.uk 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/russell-brand-rejected-by-the-church-of-scientology-because-tom-cruise-thought-he-was-too-much-of-a-troublemaker-10150818.html
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Brand rejected by Scientology?

2015-04-03 Thread salyavin808

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Why do non-comformists have to worry about teh Age of Enlightenment and why
would TM teachers be worried about it?

Because the AofE - as far as the TMO teaches it - is going to be a full
expression of what Marshy wanted the TMO to be. A certain amount of conformity
is expected when you work in the organisation (or frequent it's courses and
programmes) So if you don't fit in you have no place in it. You will have how
things are supposed to be explained to you and if you question it too much
you'll be shown the door. The idea is that because Marshy was "in absolute"
everything he said and wanted was perfect because it was in tune with "natural
law", therefore if you disagree you are contradicting him.

I had some great arguments about it, and saw some hilarious slack jaws when
offering my opinions about all sorts of stuff. In my defence I'd say that in
the intro talk I was told that TM was something you could do without changing
your beliefs, so I held them to it. They didn't like that. The assumption is
that as you grow in experience and hear more about the "knowledge" you will
naturally accept it as true and for the reasons outlined above - Marshy said
so.

I mean, what is wrong with being an enlightened non-conformist?

No such thing according to the reesh. See above. I mean, of course there is
really what I'm talking about is how cults like their people to conform. I
would say that going along with a belief system you don't agree with is going
to hold you back no matter what you are trying to acheive.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I'd have thought he'd be perfect, they could show how effective their
programmes are by transforming his life. Or not. I think he'd be more likely to
expose any wrong doing than most celebs.

It's always telling when people get thrown out of utopian cults. I used to ask
TM teachers where the non-conformists would go in the age of enlightenment and
they'd just look blank like they hadn't really thought it through. After all,
if you can guarantee perfection for people because of an innocent technique and
that technique doesn't work for some or it turns out that there's more to being
a member of the gang than an innocent technique then you've clearly been lying
about something.

Seems to me that every utopian group attracts the sort of people it needs to
function as a closed order and anyone who rocks the boat needs to be thrown out
to keep everyone else happy in the delusion that the perfect society they'e
created would work when scaled up to greater society. It wouldn't of course,
but the feeling of superiority the cultists get from "knowing" they have the
answer because their group functions perfectly is a powerful trip and worth the
occasional casualty

Why Tom Cruise rejected Russell Brand from the Church of Scientology
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/russell-brand-rejected-by-the-church-of-scientology-because-tom-cruise-thought-he-was-too-much-of-a-troublemaker-10150818.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/russell-brand-rejected-by-the-church-of-scientology-because-tom-cruise-thought-he-was-too-much-of-a-troublemaker-10150818.html

Why Tom Cruise rejected Russell Brand from the Ch...
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Russell Brand has been vocal about his devotion to the Hare Krishna movement.
But it seems Indian spirituality isn’t the only aspect of religion he’s pursued
in...

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Brand rejected by Scientology?

2015-04-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]

I never heard anyone claim that Maharishi said that everyone would conform to
some societal norm.

In fact, CC was about no longer being bound by norms: you would simply
spontaneously do what was right. Until that time, the path of least stress
would be to follow societal and cultural norms, but once enlightenment started
to set in, all bets were off.

Of course, enlightened or not, you still have to deal with the consequences of
going against societal norms, but in CC or higher, societal norms no longer are
any more relevant than any other relative aspect of existence.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Why do non-comformists have to worry about teh Age of Enlightenment and why
would TM teachers be worried about it?

I mean, what is wrong with being an enlightened non-conformist?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I'd have thought he'd be perfect, they could show how effective their
programmes are by transforming his life. Or not. I think he'd be more likely to
expose any wrong doing than most celebs.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/russell-brand-rejected-by-the-church-of-scientology-because-tom-cruise-thought-he-was-too-much-of-a-troublemaker-10150818.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brand rejected by Scientology?

2015-04-03 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

From: "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" 

    I never heard anyone claim that Maharishi said that everyone would conform 
to some societal norm.
Don't be dense. Of course he never *said* it -- he just expected it. And 
*enforced* it, by throwing out everyone who didn't "fit the mold."

In fact, CC was about no longer being bound by norms: you would simply 
spontaneously do what was right. Until that time, the path of least stress 
would be to follow societal and cultural norms, but once enlightenment  started 
to set in, all bets were off.
Of course, enlightened or not, you still have to deal with the consequences of 
going against societal norms, but in CC or higher, societal norms no longer are 
any more relevant than any other relative aspect of existence.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Why do non-comformists have to worry about teh Age of Enlightenment and why 
would TM teachers be worried about it?
Because the AofE - as far as the TMO teaches it - is going to be a full 
expression of what Marshy wanted the TMO to be. A certain amount of conformity 
is expected when you work in the organisation (or frequent it's courses and 
programmes) So if you don't fit in you have no place in it. You will have how 
things are supposed to be explained to you and if you question it too much 
you'll be shown the door. The idea is that because Marshy was "in absolute" 
everything he said and wanted was perfect because it was in tune with "natural 
law", therefore if you disagree you are contradicting him. 
I had some great arguments about it, and saw some hilarious slack jaws when 
offering my opinions about all sorts of stuff. In my defence I'd say that in 
the intro talk I was told that TM was something you could do without changing 
your beliefs, so I held them to it. They didn't like that. The assumption is 
that as you grow in experience and hear more about the "knowledge" you will 
naturally accept it as true and for the reasons outlined above - Marshy said 
so. 


I mean, what is wrong with being an enlightened non-conformist?
No such thing according to the reesh. See above. I mean, of course there is 
really what I'm talking about is how cults like their people to conform. I 
would say that going along with a belief system you don't agree with is going 
to hold you back no matter what you are trying to acheive.

L

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'd have thought he'd be perfect, they could show how effective their 
programmes are by transforming his life. Or not. I think he'd be more likely to 
expose any wrong doing than most celebs.
It's always telling when people get thrown out of utopian cults. I used to ask 
TM teachers where the non-conformists would go in the age of enlightenment and 
they'd just look blank like they hadn't really thought it through. After all, 
if you can guarantee perfection for people because of an innocent technique and 
that technique doesn't work for some or it turns out that there's more to being 
a member of the gang than an innocent technique then you've clearly been lying 
about something.
Seems to me that every utopian group attracts the sort of people it needs to 
function as a closed order and anyone who rocks the boat needs to be thrown out 
to keep everyone else happy in the delusion that the perfect society they'e 
created would work when scaled up to greater society. It wouldn't of course, 
but the feeling of superiority the cultists get from "knowing" they have the 
answer because their group functions perfectly is a powerful trip and worth the 
occasional casualty

Why Tom Cruise rejected Russell Brand from the Church of Scientology

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Brand has been vocal about his devotion to the Hare Krishna movement. But it 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brand rejected by Scientology?

2015-04-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]

He threw out people who were unwilling to play the game his way.

That has nothing to do with CC, only with his desire to have a strictly
controlled organization.

Someone in CC could certainly play the game his way, or not. Whether they do
so or not has nothing to do with CC, only with what they do or not do, CC or
not.

I marvel at how many of you seem to have completely misunderstood his words
and actions over the years.

Very strange.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

From: "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]"

I never heard anyone claim that Maharishi said that everyone would conform
to some societal norm.

Don't be dense. Of course he never *said* it -- he just expected it. And
*enforced* it, by throwing out everyone who didn't "fit the mold."

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Why do non-comformists have to worry about teh Age of Enlightenment and why
would TM teachers be worried about it?

I mean, what is wrong with being an enlightened non-conformist?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I'd have thought he'd be perfect, they could show how effective their
programmes are by transforming his life. Or not. I think he'd be more likely to
expose any wrong doing than most celebs.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/russell-brand-rejected-by-the-church-of-scientology-because-tom-cruise-thought-he-was-too-much-of-a-troublemaker-10150818.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

2015-04-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]

Bobby isn't a shill. A shill is someone who is pretending that they do NOT work 
for an organization but actually do. 

 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 For what purpose would you be wanting to get your TM med checked? Go figure.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wow! Golly gee! 

 

 A real shore 'nuff news article posted on the Maharishi Foundation USA web 
site and written by grinning Bobby Roth, certified shill for the TM Movement! 

 

 I must-a been wrong in all I ever said about TM being a mediocre technique and 
Marshy being a con man! 

 

 I guess I need to dust off my TM mantra and go to the nearest Peace Palace and 
get my TM med checked.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 12:37 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM reaches the Orient...
 
 
   
 More than 3,000 Buddhist monks in 100 monasteries throughout Southeast Asia 
have learned the Transcendental Meditation technique 
http://www.tm.org/meditation-techniques?leadsource=CRM421, as a result of the 
work by a revered Japanese Buddhist 
http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/japan/japanworkbook/religion/jbuddhis.htmlmonk, 
Reverend Koji Oshima, who is a longtime TM practitioner and certified TM 
teacher.
 
 According to Rev. Oshima, the Buddhist monks appreciate the simplicity, 
effortlessness, and profound experience of transcendence, which is gained 
almost immediately after starting the TM practice. Rev. Oshima adds that 
transcendence provides the natural basis for the monk’s subsequent prayers and 
practices.
 Thousands of Buddhist Monks in Asia Learn Transcendental Meditation | 
Transcendental Meditation® Blog 
http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/buddhist-monks/

 
 
 http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/buddhist-monks/
 
 Thousands of Buddhist Monks in Asia Learn Transcendenta... 
http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/buddhist-monks/ More than 3,000 Buddhist 
monks in 100 monasteries throughout Southeast Asia have learned the 
Transcendental Meditation technique, as a result of...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brand rejected by Scientology?

2015-04-03 Thread salyavin808

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

He threw out people who were unwilling to play the game his way.

That has nothing to do with CC, only with his desire to have a strictly
controlled organization.

Someone in CC could certainly play the game his way, or not. Whether they do
so or not has nothing to do with CC, only with what they do or not do, CC or
not.

I marvel at how many of you seem to have completely misunderstood his words
and actions over the years.

Very strange.

They really got you didn't they?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

From: "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]"

I never heard anyone claim that Maharishi said that everyone would conform
to some societal norm.

Don't be dense. Of course he never *said* it -- he just expected it. And
*enforced* it, by throwing out everyone who didn't "fit the mold."

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Why do non-comformists have to worry about teh Age of Enlightenment and why
would TM teachers be worried about it?

I mean, what is wrong with being an enlightened non-conformist?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I'd have thought he'd be perfect, they could show how effective their
programmes are by transforming his life. Or not. I think he'd be more likely to
expose any wrong doing than most celebs.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/russell-brand-rejected-by-the-church-of-scientology-because-tom-cruise-thought-he-was-too-much-of-a-troublemaker-10150818.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

2015-04-03 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Like you, right?

Another definition of "shill" that I like is someone stupid enough to be 
tricked into working for free: "A person engaged in covert advertising. The 
shill attempts to spread buzz by personally endorsing an organization in public 
forums with the pretense of sincerity, when in fact he is being paid for his 
services, either in money or by gaining favor with the organization he is 
shilling for."
 From: "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 12:54 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

    Bobby isn't a shill. A shill is someone who is pretending that they do NOT 
work for an organization but actually do.L

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

For what purpose would you be wanting to get your TM med checked? Go figure.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Wow! Golly gee! 

A real shore 'nuff news article posted on the Maharishi Foundation USA web site 
and written by grinning Bobby Roth, certified shill for the TM Movement! 

I must-a been wrong in all I ever said about TM being a mediocre technique and 
Marshy being a con man! 

I guess I need to dust off my TM mantra and go to the nearest Peace Palace and 
get my TM med checked.
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 12:37 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM reaches the Orient...

 More than 3,000 Buddhist monks in 100 monasteries throughout Southeast Asia 
have learned the Transcendental Meditation technique, as a result of the work 
by a revered Japanese Buddhistmonk, Reverend Koji Oshima, who is a longtime TM 
practitioner and certified TM teacher.According to Rev. Oshima, the Buddhist 
monks appreciate the simplicity, effortlessness, and profound experience of 
transcendence, which is gained almost immediately after starting the TM 
practice. Rev. Oshima adds that transcendence provides the natural basis for 
the monk’s subsequent prayers and practices.Thousands of Buddhist Monks in Asia 
Learn Transcendental Meditation | Transcendental Meditation® Blog

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|  | |  | Thousands of Buddhist Monks in Asia Learn Transcendenta... 
More than 3,000 Buddhist monks in 100 monasteries throughout Southeast Asia 
have learned the Transcendental Meditation technique, as a result of... |  |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

2015-04-03 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Another definition of "shill" --
a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of 
self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty.
You have been conned into believing that Maharishi and the TMO deserve your 
loyalty.
Now think this through. If you -- after spending the countless hours, days, 
weeks, and years you have spent shilling for TM on the Internet over the years 
-- were to admit to having visited another spiritual teacher, just out of 
curiosity, how long do you think it would take the organization you've been 
shilling for to throw you under the bus?
The same length of time it took Maharishi to throw Jerry Jarvis under the bus 
when he refused MMY's orders to not pay the law firm that represented the TMO 
in the New Jersey court case, or shorter? The same length of time it took 
Maharishi to throw Chopra under the bus when *he* refused to do what MMY wanted 
him to do, or shorter? 

  From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...
   
    Like you, right?

Another definition of "shill" that I like is someone stupid enough to be 
tricked into working for free: "A person engaged in covert advertising. The 
shill attempts to spread buzz by personally endorsing an organization in public 
forums with the pretense of sincerity, when in fact he is being paid for his 
services, either in money or by gaining favor with the organization he is 
shilling for."


 From: "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 12:54 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...
   
    Bobby isn't a shill. A shill is someone who is pretending that they do NOT 
work for an organization but actually do.L



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


For what purpose would you be wanting to get your TM med checked? Go figure.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Wow! Golly gee! 

A real shore 'nuff news article posted on the Maharishi Foundation USA web site 
and written by grinning Bobby Roth, certified shill for the TM Movement! 

I must-a been wrong in all I ever said about TM being a mediocre technique and 
Marshy being a con man! 

I guess I need to dust off my TM mantra and go to the nearest Peace Palace and 
get my TM med checked.
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 12:37 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM reaches the Orient...
 
 More than 3,000 Buddhist monks in 100 monasteries throughout Southeast Asia 
have learned the Transcendental Meditation technique, as a result of the work 
by a revered Japanese Buddhistmonk, Reverend Koji Oshima, who is a longtime TM 
practitioner and certified TM teacher.According to Rev. Oshima, the Buddhist 
monks appreciate the simplicity, effortlessness, and profound experience of 
transcendence, which is gained almost immediately after starting the TM 
practice. Rev. Oshima adds that transcendence provides the natural basis for 
the monk’s subsequent prayers and practices.Thousands of Buddhist Monks in Asia 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Brand rejected by Scientology?

2015-04-03 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 8:02 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Brand rejected by Scientology?

    Seems to me that every utopian group attracts the sort of people it needs 
to function as a closed order...
Cultists "self-select," IMO. Subconsciously, they always know when they're 
being recruited by a cult. The ones who aren't attracted to cults see through 
the subterfuge and deception and aren't interested. Like this guy:
I just watched five hours of Scientology DVDs and this is what I learned

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feel crazy just watching this." |
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[FairfieldLife] new report from Raja Luis on latin America

2015-04-03 Thread srijau

http://www.maharishichannel.in/archives/2014_mp4/2014_play_mp4.php 
http://www.maharishichannel.in/archives/2014_mp4/2014_play_mp4.php

[FairfieldLife] happiness breaking out all over

2015-04-03 Thread srijau

especially in Latin America

 People Worldwide Are Reporting a Lot of Positive Emotions 
http://www.gallup.com/poll/169322/people-worldwide-reporting-lot-positive-emotions.aspx

 
 
 
http://www.gallup.com/poll/169322/people-worldwide-reporting-lot-positive-emotions.aspx
 
 
 People Worldwide Are Reporting a Lot of Positive... 
http://www.gallup.com/poll/169322/people-worldwide-reporting-lot-positive-emotions.aspx
 Gallup finds that a majority of adults worldwide are experiencing positive 
emotions. Of the 10 countries in the world with the highest percentages ...
 
 
 
 View on www.gallup.com 
http://www.gallup.com/poll/169322/people-worldwide-reporting-lot-positive-emotions.aspx
 
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[FairfieldLife] latin America tops in happiness

2015-04-03 Thread srijau

Latin American Countries Are The Happiest In The World, Gallup Poll Finds 
http://www.ibtimes.com/latin-american-countries-are-happiest-world-gallup-poll-finds-1855110
 
 
 
http://www.ibtimes.com/latin-american-countries-are-happiest-world-gallup-poll-finds-1855110
 
 
 Latin American Countries Are The Happiest In The World, ... 
http://www.ibtimes.com/latin-american-countries-are-happiest-world-gallup-poll-finds-1855110
 Paraguay ranked highest in Gallup's Positive Experience Index.
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: happiness breaking out all over

2015-04-03 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Yes, the warmth of the sunshine of an Age of Enlightenment is being felt.
 It is Spring time in the AoE for those who can see it.
 I look forward to the full day ahead.
 Jai Guru Dev
 -Buck in Fairfield, Iowa out standing in his fields
 

Srijau writes:

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 especially in Latin America

 People Worldwide Are Reporting a Lot of Positive Emotions 
http://www.gallup.com/poll/169322/people-worldwide-reporting-lot-positive-emotions.aspx

 
 
 
http://www.gallup.com/poll/169322/people-worldwide-reporting-lot-positive-emotions.aspx
 
 People Worldwide Are Reporting a Lot of Positive... 
http://www.gallup.com/poll/169322/people-worldwide-reporting-lot-positive-emotions.aspx
 Gallup finds that a majority of adults worldwide are experiencing positive 
emotions. Of the 10 countries in the world with the highest percentages ...


 
 View on www.gallup.com 
http://www.gallup.com/poll/169322/people-worldwide-reporting-lot-positive-emotions.aspx
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2015-04-03 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

2015-04-03 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I was just listening to an audio book version of War of the Worldviews in which 
Deepak Chopra and physicist Leaonard Mlodinow present essays of opposing 
viewpoints on various subjects such as science consciousness etc. I am 
surprised in a way that Chopra still sounds a lot like Maharishi, and has 
especially spongy thinking. Mlodinaw is sharp as a tack. In the audio book 
(which the authors are reading) you get a better idea of how they are regarding 
their subject matter. However which author's argument you prefer might be a 
function of how your brain has been preprogrammed. What is interesting in this 
exchange is Mlodinow is a real physicist and is not making any concessions to 
Woo and sloppy thinking. 

 I heard that the Westchester TM in their Spring Celebration showed a video of 
Bobby Roth interviewing Cameron Diaz, a TM meditator. What I find interesting 
is I recently watched a movie with Diaz, Bad Teacher, in which her character 
displays most of the worst characteristics of a human being, things the TM org 
would not allow any of their members to display in public, but which behind the 
scenes they do as a matter of course. As long as it provides a means to 
advertise TM the org will go for it. 
 

 One could take David Lynch's films, most of which are dark, weird, and 
murderous as an example of what TM does for the creative mind. I wonder how 
many in the TMO have watched Lynch's films. I once mentioned one of his films 
to the governors running one of the facilities, and I was told I shouldn't 
watch it. So of course I did. It was brilliantly sick, the product of a truly 
deviant but very creative mind. I loved the film, but I think a lot of 
meditators, if they saw these things, would crawl out of the room totally 
disgusted. Of course young people who have not practised TM but are familiar 
with Lynch would probably find it intriguing that he is promoting meditation, 
as they would not be familiar with the weird internal world of the TM org.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Another definition of "shill" --
 

 a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of 
self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty.
 

 You have been conned into believing that Maharishi and the TMO deserve your 
loyalty.
 

 Now think this through. If you -- after spending the countless hours, days, 
weeks, and years you have spent shilling for TM on the Internet over the years 
-- were to admit to having visited another spiritual teacher, just out of 
curiosity, how long do you think it would take the organization you've been 
shilling for to throw you under the bus?
 

 The same length of time it took Maharishi to throw Jerry Jarvis under the bus 
when he refused MMY's orders to not pay the law firm that represented the TMO 
in the New Jersey court case, or shorter? The same length of time it took 
Maharishi to throw Chopra under the bus when *he* refused to do what MMY wanted 
him to do, or shorter?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Raja Luis on yogic flyers in S.A.: 50,000 => 100,000 => 1 million

2015-04-03 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

According to Raja Luis
That is the operative phrase. Luis is a liar and learned to be so from his 
mentors in the Movement. Lying to get prestige and money is endemic to and an 
integral part of the Movement. Always has been always will be.

  From: "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 9:23 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Raja Luis on yogic flyers in S.A.: 50,000 => 100,000 
=> 1 million
   
    http://www.maharishichannel.in/archives/2014_mp4/2014_play_mp4.php


The video shows the inauguration of the first official vastu flying hall in 
Mexico, attended by the governor of the state and other government dignitaries. 
According to Raja Luis, South American governments are jumping on the bandwagon 
of requesting TM and TM-SIdhis instruction far faster than they can meet demand 
and they are training one or two teachers in each school to be TM teachers to 
provide followup for each school because there is no practical way to do it 
otherwise.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Raja Luis on yogic flyers in S.A.: 50,000 => 100,000 => 1 million

2015-04-03 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]


 The operative phrase with most of your messages is non sequitur. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 According to Raja Luis
 

 That is the operative phrase. Luis is a liar and learned to be so from his 
mentors in the Movement. Lying to get prestige and money is endemic to and an 
integral part of the Movement. Always has been always will be.

 

 From: "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 9:23 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Raja Luis on yogic flyers in S.A.: 50,000 => 100,000 
=> 1 million
 
 
   
 http://www.maharishichannel.in/archives/2014_mp4/2014_play_mp4.php 
http://www.maharishichannel.in/archives/2014_mp4/2014_play_mp4.php

 

 

 The video shows the inauguration of the first official vastu flying hall in 
Mexico, attended by the governor of the state and other government dignitaries. 
According to Raja Luis, South American governments are jumping on the bandwagon 
of requesting TM and TM-SIdhis instruction far faster than they can meet demand 
and they are training one or two teachers in each school to be TM teachers to 
provide followup for each school because there is no practical way to do it 
otherwise.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Brand rejected by Scientology?

2015-04-03 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 "I used to ask TM teachers where the non-conformists would go in the age of 
enlightenment and they'd just look blank like they hadn't really thought it 
through."
Now what kind of question was that to ask? You must not have paid attention in 
all the many lectures. The deal is and what all TM teachers (the True Believer 
kind anyway) expect is that there will be no non-conformists in the A of E. 

That's right. Marshy used to teach it. When the world becomes enlightened, it 
will wake up to the fact that TM is the be all and end all of everything to 
everyone, everyone will want to do TM, the TM teachers will have to run to the 
mountains to get away from the masses of people coming to learn TM, of course 
the roads will be full and crowded so the teachers will have to levitate above 
the taxis to get to their mountain retreats and we will all live in one big 
happy Vedic world where everyone comes to the Domes on time and everyone 
worships Marshy.

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 2:02 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Brand rejected by Scientology?
   
    I'd have thought he'd be perfect, they could show how effective their 
programmes are by transforming his life. Or not. I think he'd be more likely to 
expose any wrong doing than most celebs.
It's always telling when people get thrown out of utopian cults. I used to ask 
TM teachers where the non-conformists would go in the age of enlightenment and 
they'd just look blank like they hadn't really thought it through. After all, 
if you can guarantee perfection for people because of an innocent technique and 
that technique doesn't work for some or it turns out that there's more to being 
a member of the gang than an innocent technique then you've clearly been lying 
about something.
Seems to me that every utopian group attracts the sort of people it needs to 
function as a closed order and anyone who rocks the boat needs to be thrown out 
to keep everyone else happy in the delusion that the perfect society they'e 
created would work when scaled up to greater society. It wouldn't of course, 
but the feeling of superiority the cultists get from "knowing" they have the 
answer because their group functions perfectly is a powerful trip and worth the 
occasional casualty

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brand rejected by Scientology?

2015-04-03 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

The only non-conformists in the Age of E will be the unenlightened and they 
will be all together in a colony, probably on Devil's Island.

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 5:50 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brand rejected by Scientology?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Why do non-comformists have to worry about teh Age of Enlightenment and why 
would TM teachers be worried about it?
Because the AofE - as far as the TMO teaches it - is going to be a full 
expression of what Marshy wanted the TMO to be. A certain amount of conformity 
is expected when you work in the organisation (or frequent it's courses and 
programmes) So if you don't fit in you have no place in it. You will have how 
things are supposed to be explained to you and if you question it too much 
you'll be shown the door. The idea is that because Marshy was "in absolute" 
everything he said and wanted was perfect because it was in tune with "natural 
law", therefore if you disagree you are contradicting him. 
I had some great arguments about it, and saw some hilarious slack jaws when 
offering my opinions about all sorts of stuff. In my defence I'd say that in 
the intro talk I was told that TM was something you could do without changing 
your beliefs, so I held them to it. They didn't like that. The assumption is 
that as you grow in experience and hear more about the "knowledge" you will 
naturally accept it as true and for the reasons outlined above - Marshy said 
so. 

I mean, what is wrong with being an enlightened non-conformist?
No such thing according to the reesh. See above. I mean, of course there is 
really what I'm talking about is how cults like their people to conform. I 
would say that going along with a belief system you don't agree with is going 
to hold you back no matter what you are trying to acheive.

L

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'd have thought he'd be perfect, they could show how effective their 
programmes are by transforming his life. Or not. I think he'd be more likely to 
expose any wrong doing than most celebs.
It's always telling when people get thrown out of utopian cults. I used to ask 
TM teachers where the non-conformists would go in the age of enlightenment and 
they'd just look blank like they hadn't really thought it through. After all, 
if you can guarantee perfection for people because of an innocent technique and 
that technique doesn't work for some or it turns out that there's more to being 
a member of the gang than an innocent technique then you've clearly been lying 
about something.
Seems to me that every utopian group attracts the sort of people it needs to 
function as a closed order and anyone who rocks the boat needs to be thrown out 
to keep everyone else happy in the delusion that the perfect society they'e 
created would work when scaled up to greater society. It wouldn't of course, 
but the feeling of superiority the cultists get from "knowing" they have the 
answer because their group functions perfectly is a powerful trip and worth the 
occasional casualty

Why Tom Cruise rejected Russell Brand from the Church of Scientology

|  |
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Brand has been vocal about his devotion to the Hare Krishna movement. But it 
seems Indian spirituality isn’t the only aspect of religion he’s pursued in... 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

2015-04-03 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]


 Now this is funny - Lawson never worked for the TMO in any capacity, but Barry 
worked for free for 14 years as a TM Teacher and TM Minister and then went on 
to work for other cults for another 20 years, wrote a memoir, and then spent 15 
years posting to various spiritual groups on the internet, but Lawson is the 
"shill"? Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance? LoL!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Like you, right?
 

 Another definition of "shill" that I like is someone stupid enough to be 
tricked into working for free: 
 "A person engaged in covert advertising. The shill attempts to spread buzz 
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=buzz by personally endorsing an 
organization in public forums with the pretense of sincerity, when in fact he 
is being paid for his services, either in money or by gaining favor with the 
organization he is shilling for."
 

 From: "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 12:54 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...
 
 
   Bobby isn't a shill. A shill is someone who is pretending that they do NOT 
work for an organization but actually do.
 L
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 For what purpose would you be wanting to get your TM med checked? Go figure.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wow! Golly gee! 

 

 A real shore 'nuff news article posted on the Maharishi Foundation USA web 
site and written by grinning Bobby Roth, certified shill for the TM Movement! 

 

 I must-a been wrong in all I ever said about TM being a mediocre technique and 
Marshy being a con man! 

 

 I guess I need to dust off my TM mantra and go to the nearest Peace Palace and 
get my TM med checked.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 12:37 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM reaches the Orient...
 
 
   
 More than 3,000 Buddhist monks in 100 monasteries throughout Southeast Asia 
have learned the Transcendental Meditation technique 
http://www.tm.org/meditation-techniques?leadsource=CRM421, as a result of the 
work by a revered Japanese Buddhist 
http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/japan/japanworkbook/religion/jbuddhis.htmlmonk, 
Reverend Koji Oshima, who is a longtime TM practitioner and certified TM 
teacher.
 
 According to Rev. Oshima, the Buddhist monks appreciate the simplicity, 
effortlessness, and profound experience of transcendence, which is gained 
almost immediately after starting the TM practice. Rev. Oshima adds that 
transcendence provides the natural basis for the monk’s subsequent prayers and 
practices.
 Thousands of Buddhist Monks in Asia Learn Transcendental Meditation | 
Transcendental Meditation® Blog 
http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/buddhist-monks/

 
 
 http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/buddhist-monks/
 
 Thousands of Buddhist Monks in Asia Learn Transcendenta... 
http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/buddhist-monks/ More than 3,000 Buddhist 
monks in 100 monasteries throughout Southeast Asia have learned the 
Transcendental Meditation technique, as a result of...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

2015-04-03 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Great response. For the record, if I ever mention Deepak Chopra here, know that 
it is on the basis of the few -- VERY few -- net articles of his I have glanced 
at over the years. Color me not impressed. The analogy of "sponge mind" may be 
aiming too far up the evolutionary chain for me to agree with it. :-)
I missed him entirely in the TMO, having bailed years before he appeared and 
did his cometary flame-out. So when I say I think he's a mental midget, it's 
NOT because I am compulsively trying to dump on all things TM. I don't even 
*know* him in relation to TM. I think he's a mental midget because he speaks 
and writes like a mental midget. 
The "Bad Teacher" thing is amusing, and I take it as a "writing prompt" cue and 
will duly download that movie and watch it. I missed it as if wafted through 
the mediaverse, and will try to catch up to it now.  
I've waxed forth on my underwhelmedness about David Lynch here before, and 
don't feel the need to do so extensively again. I think he's a guy who *could* 
have been a true creative force in the cinema, but instead decided to settle 
first for being a "critics' darling" and then later for a "guru's darling." 

Here's a prediction. No "seeing" involved, just watching trends and 
extrapolating from them. The much-discussed and in some circles 
much-anticipated followup to Lynch's "Twin Peaks" will never happen. The reason 
it will never happen is that Lynch will come up with excuse after excuse after 
excuse for why he can't supply the contracted-for scripts and will finally bail 
from the project. You heard it here first.  :-) 
 From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...
   
    I was just listening to an audio book version of War of the Worldviews in 
which Deepak Chopra and physicist Leaonard Mlodinow present essays of opposing 
viewpoints on various subjects such as science consciousness etc. I am 
surprised in a way that Chopra still sounds a lot like Maharishi, and has 
especially spongy thinking. Mlodinaw is sharp as a tack. In the audio book 
(which the authors are reading) you get a better idea of how they are regarding 
their subject matter. However which author's argument you prefer might be a 
function of how your brain has been preprogrammed. What is interesting in this 
exchange is Mlodinow is a real physicist and is not making any concessions to 
Woo and sloppy thinking.
I heard that the Westchester TM in their Spring Celebration showed a video of 
Bobby Roth interviewing Cameron Diaz, a TM meditator. What I find interesting 
is I recently watched a movie with Diaz, Bad Teacher, in which her character 
displays most of the worst characteristics of a human being, things the TM org 
would not allow any of their members to display in public, but which behind the 
scenes they do as a matter of course. As long as it provides a means to 
advertise TM the org will go for it. 
One could take David Lynch's films, most of which are dark, weird, and 
murderous as an example of what TM does for the creative mind. I wonder how 
many in the TMO have watched Lynch's films. I once mentioned one of his films 
to the governors running one of the facilities, and I was told I shouldn't 
watch it. So of course I did. It was brilliantly sick, the product of a truly 
deviant but very creative mind. I loved the film, but I think a lot of 
meditators, if they saw these things, would crawl out of the room totally 
disgusted. Of course young people who have not practised TM but are familiar 
with Lynch would probably find it intriguing that he is promoting meditation, 
as they would not be familiar with the weird internal world of the TM org.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Another definition of "shill" --
a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of 
self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty.
You have been conned into believing that Maharishi and the TMO deserve your 
loyalty.
Now think this through. If you -- after spending the countless hours, days, 
weeks, and years you have spent shilling for TM on the Internet over the years 
-- were to admit to having visited another spiritual teacher, just out of 
curiosity, how long do you think it would take the organization you've been 
shilling for to throw you under the bus?
The same length of time it took Maharishi to throw Jerry Jarvis under the bus 
when he refused MMY's orders to not pay the law firm that represented the TMO 
in the New Jersey court case, or shorter? The same length of time it took 
Maharishi to throw Chopra under the bus when *he* refused to do what MMY wanted 
him to do, or shorter? 


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brand rejected by Scientology?

2015-04-03 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

He certainly heavily implied it in his endless blabber about how great TM 
is.His assertions of everyone embracing TM were very clear and implied that in 
the Age of E, everyone would spontaneously have the good sense to do TM and be 
a conformist. All the sycophantic TM'ers drooled over it because it seemed 
logical at the time to believe that everyone would believe as the TB'ers 
believed. 

  From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 6:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brand rejected by Scientology?

    From: "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" 

    I never heard anyone claim that Maharishi said that everyone would conform 
to some societal norm.
Don't be dense. Of course he never *said* it -- he just expected it. And 
*enforced* it, by throwing out everyone who didn't "fit the mold."

In fact, CC was about no longer being bound by norms: you would simply 
spontaneously do what was right. Until that time, the path of least stress 
would be to follow societal and cultural norms, but once enlightenment  started 
to set in, all bets were off.
Of course, enlightened or not, you still have to deal with the consequences of 
going against societal norms, but in CC or higher, societal norms no longer are 
any more relevant than any other relative aspect of existence.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Why do non-comformists have to worry about teh Age of Enlightenment and why 
would TM teachers be worried about it?
Because the AofE - as far as the TMO teaches it - is going to be a full 
expression of what Marshy wanted the TMO to be. A certain amount of conformity 
is expected when you work in the organisation (or frequent it's courses and 
programmes) So if you don't fit in you have no place in it. You will have how 
things are supposed to be explained to you and if you question it too much 
you'll be shown the door. The idea is that because Marshy was "in absolute" 
everything he said and wanted was perfect because it was in tune with "natural 
law", therefore if you disagree you are contradicting him. 
I had some great arguments about it, and saw some hilarious slack jaws when 
offering my opinions about all sorts of stuff. In my defence I'd say that in 
the intro talk I was told that TM was something you could do without changing 
your beliefs, so I held them to it. They didn't like that. The assumption is 
that as you grow in experience and hear more about the "knowledge" you will 
naturally accept it as true and for the reasons outlined above - Marshy said 
so. 

I mean, what is wrong with being an enlightened non-conformist?
No such thing according to the reesh. See above. I mean, of course there is 
really what I'm talking about is how cults like their people to conform. I 
would say that going along with a belief system you don't agree with is going 
to hold you back no matter what you are trying to acheive.

L

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'd have thought he'd be perfect, they could show how effective their 
programmes are by transforming his life. Or not. I think he'd be more likely to 
expose any wrong doing than most celebs.
It's always telling when people get thrown out of utopian cults. I used to ask 
TM teachers where the non-conformists would go in the age of enlightenment and 
they'd just look blank like they hadn't really thought it through. After all, 
if you can guarantee perfection for people because of an innocent technique and 
that technique doesn't work for some or it turns out that there's more to being 
a member of the gang than an innocent technique then you've clearly been lying 
about something.
Seems to me that every utopian group attracts the sort of people it needs to 
function as a closed order and anyone who rocks the boat needs to be thrown out 
to keep everyone else happy in the delusion that the perfect society they'e 
created would work when scaled up to greater society. It wouldn't of course, 
but the feeling of superiority the cultists get from "knowing" they have the 
answer because their group functions perfectly is a powerful trip and worth the 
occasional casualty

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

2015-04-03 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]


 For the record, I've never known Lawson, in 15 years of posting to newsgroups, 
to ever claim any TMO status, or to personally profit from the practice of TM 
or from teaching. On the other hand, Barry is the guy that bragged about 
selling mantras for money for the TMO for over a decade. What some of us want 
to know is - what happened to all the money?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Another definition of "shill" --
 

 a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of 
self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty.
 

 You have been conned into believing that Maharishi and the TMO deserve your 
loyalty.
 

 Now think this through. If you -- after spending the countless hours, days, 
weeks, and years you have spent shilling for TM on the Internet over the years 
-- were to admit to having visited another spiritual teacher, just out of 
curiosity, how long do you think it would take the organization you've been 
shilling for to throw you under the bus?
 

 The same length of time it took Maharishi to throw Jerry Jarvis under the bus 
when he refused MMY's orders to not pay the law firm that represented the TMO 
in the New Jersey court case, or shorter? The same length of time it took 
Maharishi to throw Chopra under the bus when *he* refused to do what MMY wanted 
him to do, or shorter? 

 


 From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...
 
 
   
 Like you, right?
 

 Another definition of "shill" that I like is someone stupid enough to be 
tricked into working for free: 
 "A person engaged in covert advertising. The shill attempts to spread buzz 
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=buzz by personally endorsing an 
organization in public forums with the pretense of sincerity, when in fact he 
is being paid for his services, either in money or by gaining favor with the 
organization he is shilling for."
 

 


 From: "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 12:54 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...
 
 
   Bobby isn't a shill. A shill is someone who is pretending that they do NOT 
work for an organization but actually do.
 L
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 For what purpose would you be wanting to get your TM med checked? Go figure.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wow! Golly gee! 

 

 A real shore 'nuff news article posted on the Maharishi Foundation USA web 
site and written by grinning Bobby Roth, certified shill for the TM Movement! 

 

 I must-a been wrong in all I ever said about TM being a mediocre technique and 
Marshy being a con man! 

 

 I guess I need to dust off my TM mantra and go to the nearest Peace Palace and 
get my TM med checked.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 12:37 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM reaches the Orient...
 
 
   
 More than 3,000 Buddhist monks in 100 monasteries throughout Southeast Asia 
have learned the Transcendental Meditation technique 
http://www.tm.org/meditation-techniques?leadsource=CRM421, as a result of the 
work by a revered Japanese Buddhist 
http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/japan/japanworkbook/religion/jbuddhis.htmlmonk, 
Reverend Koji Oshima, who is a longtime TM practitioner and certified TM 
teacher.
 
 According to Rev. Oshima, the Buddhist monks appreciate the simplicity, 
effortlessness, and profound experience of transcendence, which is gained 
almost immediately after starting the TM practice. Rev. Oshima adds that 
transcendence provides the natural basis for the monk’s subsequent prayers and 
practices.
 Thousands of Buddhist Monks in Asia Learn Transcendental Meditation | 
Transcendental Meditation® Blog 
http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/buddhist-monks/

 
 
 http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/buddhist-monks/
 
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http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/buddhist-monks/ More than 3,000 Buddhist 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

2015-04-03 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Your years of TM have turned your mind to mush.You are incorrect. Here is the 
definition of shill:
an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic 
customer to entice or encourage others.
Marshy was the swindler and the TMO is now the swindler. Roth is the 
accomplice. It fits very well.

  From: "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 6:54 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

    Bobby isn't a shill. A shill is someone who is pretending that they do NOT 
work for an organization but actually do.

L

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

For what purpose would you be wanting to get your TM med checked? Go figure.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Wow! Golly gee! 

A real shore 'nuff news article posted on the Maharishi Foundation USA web site 
and written by grinning Bobby Roth, certified shill for the TM Movement! 

I must-a been wrong in all I ever said about TM being a mediocre technique and 
Marshy being a con man! 

I guess I need to dust off my TM mantra and go to the nearest Peace Palace and 
get my TM med checked.
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 12:37 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM reaches the Orient...

 More than 3,000 Buddhist monks in 100 monasteries throughout Southeast Asia 
have learned the Transcendental Meditation technique, as a result of the work 
by a revered Japanese Buddhistmonk, Reverend Koji Oshima, who is a longtime TM 
practitioner and certified TM teacher.According to Rev. Oshima, the Buddhist 
monks appreciate the simplicity, effortlessness, and profound experience of 
transcendence, which is gained almost immediately after starting the TM 
practice. Rev. Oshima adds that transcendence provides the natural basis for 
the monk’s subsequent prayers and practices.Thousands of Buddhist Monks in Asia 
Learn Transcendental Meditation | Transcendental Meditation® Blog

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

2015-04-03 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]


 You do realize that you've posted a message to Barry, the guy that just 
binge-watched a Western series on TV - "Justified", right? Sometimes I wonder 
if you and I are on the same planet. What does Cameron Diaz have to do with 
Buddhists in the Orient learning TM? Go figure.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I was just listening to an audio book version of War of the Worldviews in 
which Deepak Chopra and physicist Leaonard Mlodinow present essays of opposing 
viewpoints on various subjects such as science consciousness etc. I am 
surprised in a way that Chopra still sounds a lot like Maharishi, and has 
especially spongy thinking. Mlodinaw is sharp as a tack. In the audio book 
(which the authors are reading) you get a better idea of how they are regarding 
their subject matter. However which author's argument you prefer might be a 
function of how your brain has been preprogrammed. What is interesting in this 
exchange is Mlodinow is a real physicist and is not making any concessions to 
Woo and sloppy thinking.

Non sequitur. 
 

 I heard that the Westchester TM in their Spring Celebration showed a video of 
Bobby Roth interviewing Cameron Diaz, a TM meditator. What I find interesting 
is I recently watched a movie with Diaz, Bad Teacher, in which her character 
displays most of the worst characteristics of a human being, things the TM org 
would not allow any of their members to display in public, but which behind the 
scenes they do as a matter of course. As long as it provides a means to 
advertise TM the org will go for it. 

Non sequitur. 

 

 One could take David Lynch's films, most of which are dark, weird, and 
murderous as an example of what TM does for the creative mind. I wonder how 
many in the TMO have watched Lynch's films. I once mentioned one of his films 
to the governors running one of the facilities, and I was told I shouldn't 
watch it. So of course I did. It was brilliantly sick, the product of a truly 
deviant but very creative mind. I loved the film, but I think a lot of 
meditators, if they saw these things, would crawl out of the room totally 
disgusted. Of course young people who have not practised TM but are familiar 
with Lynch would probably find it intriguing that he is promoting meditation, 
as they would not be familiar with the weird internal world of the TM org.

Non sequitur. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Another definition of "shill" --
 

 a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of 
self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty.
 

 You have been conned into believing that Maharishi and the TMO deserve your 
loyalty.
 

 Now think this through. If you -- after spending the countless hours, days, 
weeks, and years you have spent shilling for TM on the Internet over the years 
-- were to admit to having visited another spiritual teacher, just out of 
curiosity, how long do you think it would take the organization you've been 
shilling for to throw you under the bus?
 

 The same length of time it took Maharishi to throw Jerry Jarvis under the bus 
when he refused MMY's orders to not pay the law firm that represented the TMO 
in the New Jersey court case, or shorter? The same length of time it took 
Maharishi to throw Chopra under the bus when *he* refused to do what MMY wanted 
him to do, or shorter? 

 


 
 








 
   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Another definition of "shill" --
 

 a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of 
self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty.
 

 You have been conned into believing that Maharishi and the TMO deserve your 
loyalty.
 

 Now think this through. If you -- after spending the countless hours, days, 
weeks, and years you have spent shilling for TM on the Internet over the years 
-- were to admit to having visited another spiritual teacher, just out of 
curiosity, how long do you think it would take the organization you've been 
shilling for to throw you under the bus?
 

 The same length of time it took Maharishi to throw Jerry Jarvis under the bus 
when he refused MMY's orders to not pay the law firm that represented the TMO 
in the New Jersey court case, or shorter? The same length of time it took 
Maharishi to throw Chopra under the bus when *he* refused to do what MMY wanted 
him to do, or shorter? 

 


 
 








 

   

 I heard that the Westchester TM in their Spring Celebration showed a video of 
Bobby Roth interviewing Cameron Diaz, a TM meditator. What I find interesting 
is I recently watched a movie with Diaz, Bad Teacher, in which her character 
displays most of the worst characteristics of a human being, things the TM org 
would not allow any of their members to display in public, but which behind the 
scenes they do as a matter of course. As long as it provides a means to 
advertise TM the org will go for it. 
 

 One could take David Lynch's films, most of which are dark,

Re: [FairfieldLife] latin America tops in happiness

2015-04-03 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Just go visit and you will find out what bullshit this is, perhaps when you are 
being robbed.
Paraguay 2015 Crime and Safety Report
 3/4/2015
 
Overall Crime and Safety Situation

Crime Rating: High

Crime Threats

Crime continues to be a serious concern. Crime is generally non-violent, but 
the common use of knives and firearms in muggings and street crime creates the 
possibility for serious harm. Recent statistics indicate a growing willingness 
to use weapons. Street crime, including pickpocketing and mugging, is common in 
downtown Asuncion, at the bus terminal, and on public buses. Groups of children 
have been known to mob pedestrians and steal purses and wallets. For 2014, the 
Paraguayan National Police (PNP) reported marked increases in vehicle theft 
(+25 percent), robbery (+10 percent), aggravated robbery (+12 percent), and 
aggravated theft (+13 percent) as compared to 2013, with other crime categories 
remaining mostly stagnant. The PNP acknowledges that many crimes go unreported 
due to lack of confidence in the judicial process. Armed robberies, car thefts 
(occasionally including carjacking), and burglaries are common. 

Increasing incidents of muggers using motorcycles to approach their victims 
have also been reported. One tactic becoming more common is a thief breaking 
the passenger window of a vehicle stopped at a traffic light or in traffic, 
grabbing a purse or bag from the car seat, and escaping on the back of a 
waiting motorcycle.

Another tactic is for thieves to target people making large cash transactions 
at banks. There have been instances of bank employees working with criminal 
elements to identify and rob individuals after they withdraw large amounts of 
cash.

Residences with augmented security are not immune from burglaries. Many 
burglaries occur during the day when occupants are not at the residence or when 
easily manipulated household staff fails to use appropriate security protocols. 
In some cases, police officers and security guards are complicit in the crimes. 
It is common for homeowners to be held at gunpoint during robberies.  

There is no pervasive anti-American sentiment in Paraguay, however, criminals 
frequently target those believed to be wealthy, which. U.S. citizens are 
perceived to be.  
https://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=17213
  From: "sri...@ymail.com" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 8:22 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] latin America tops in happiness
   
    Latin American Countries Are The Happiest In The World, Gallup Poll Finds 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

2015-04-03 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]


 Now this is funny - a guy joins a spiritual discussion group focused on TM and 
MMY and for 15 years posts non sequitur messages, but has read only a very few 
articles on the net about Deepak Chopra - while almost the entire group has 
probably discussed Chopra thousands of times over the years. 

You would think Barry would have at least read one single Chopra book we were 
discussing BEFORE he opened his big pie-hole about Deepakage. Go figure.

If Judy is still a reader on FFL, I'm sure she won't miss this instance of 
irony. LoL! 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great response. For the record, if I ever mention Deepak Chopra here, know 
that it is on the basis of the few -- VERY few -- net articles of his I have 
glanced at over the years. Color me not impressed. The analogy of "sponge mind" 
may be aiming too far up the evolutionary chain for me to agree with it. :-)
 

 I missed him entirely in the TMO, having bailed years before he appeared and 
did his cometary flame-out. So when I say I think he's a mental midget, it's 
NOT because I am compulsively trying to dump on all things TM. I don't even 
*know* him in relation to TM. I think he's a mental midget because he speaks 
and writes like a mental midget. 

 
 The "Bad Teacher" thing is amusing, and I take it as a "writing prompt" cue 
and will duly download that movie and watch it. I missed it as if wafted 
through the mediaverse, and will try to catch up to it now.  
 

 I've waxed forth on my underwhelmedness about David Lynch here before, and 
don't feel the need to do so extensively again. I think he's a guy who *could* 
have been a true creative force in the cinema, but instead decided to settle 
first for being a "critics' darling" and then later for a "guru's darling." 

 

 Here's a prediction. No "seeing" involved, just watching trends and 
extrapolating from them. The much-discussed and in some circles 
much-anticipated followup to Lynch's "Twin Peaks" will never happen. The reason 
it will never happen is that Lynch will come up with excuse after excuse after 
excuse for why he can't supply the contracted-for scripts and will finally bail 
from the project. You heard it here first.  :-)
 

 From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...
 
 
   I was just listening to an audio book version of War of the Worldviews in 
which Deepak Chopra and physicist Leaonard Mlodinow present essays of opposing 
viewpoints on various subjects such as science consciousness etc. I am 
surprised in a way that Chopra still sounds a lot like Maharishi, and has 
especially spongy thinking. Mlodinaw is sharp as a tack. In the audio book 
(which the authors are reading) you get a better idea of how they are regarding 
their subject matter. However which author's argument you prefer might be a 
function of how your brain has been preprogrammed. What is interesting in this 
exchange is Mlodinow is a real physicist and is not making any concessions to 
Woo and sloppy thinking.
 

 I heard that the Westchester TM in their Spring Celebration showed a video of 
Bobby Roth interviewing Cameron Diaz, a TM meditator. What I find interesting 
is I recently watched a movie with Diaz, Bad Teacher, in which her character 
displays most of the worst characteristics of a human being, things the TM org 
would not allow any of their members to display in public, but which behind the 
scenes they do as a matter of course. As long as it provides a means to 
advertise TM the org will go for it. 
 

 One could take David Lynch's films, most of which are dark, weird, and 
murderous as an example of what TM does for the creative mind. I wonder how 
many in the TMO have watched Lynch's films. I once mentioned one of his films 
to the governors running one of the facilities, and I was told I shouldn't 
watch it. So of course I did. It was brilliantly sick, the product of a truly 
deviant but very creative mind. I loved the film, but I think a lot of 
meditators, if they saw these things, would crawl out of the room totally 
disgusted. Of course young people who have not practised TM but are familiar 
with Lynch would probably find it intriguing that he is promoting meditation, 
as they would not be familiar with the weird internal world of the TM org.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Another definition of "shill" --
 

 a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of 
self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty.
 

 You have been conned into believing that Maharishi and the TMO deserve your 
loyalty.
 

 Now think this through. If you -- after spending the countless hours, days, 
weeks, and years you have spent shilling for TM on the Internet over the years 
-- were to admit to having visited another spiritual teacher, just out of 
curiosity, how long do you think it would take the organiza

Re: [FairfieldLife] latin America tops in happiness

2015-04-03 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Now that I have posted this Sri, how do you deal with it? I assume you were 
implying that all these positive feelings are coming out all over the world due 
to TM and TMSP in groups? 

And that the elusive and possibly non-existent yogic flying groups in Latin 
America are responsible for Latin American countries being the happiest in the 
world according to Gallup pollsters?
Now that I have posted a dose of reality are you willing to say that the high 
crime rates in Paraguay are due to TM and TMSP?
Think for a minute about who the Gallup pollsters talked to. Did they ask the 
ultra wealthy elite of the country? If so, hell yeah they are happy and happy 
they don't live in shit holes like the rest of the country? 

Did the pollsters go into the poorest neighborhoods and ask their questions? 
Fuck no they didn't because they knew better than to go where they would at 
least be robbed if not killed. 

Wake up man.

  From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 10:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] latin America tops in happiness
   
    Just go visit and you will find out what bullshit this is, perhaps when you 
are being robbed.
Paraguay 2015 Crime and Safety Report
 3/4/2015
 
Overall Crime and Safety Situation

Crime Rating: High

Crime Threats

Crime continues to be a serious concern. Crime is generally non-violent, but 
the common use of knives and firearms in muggings and street crime creates the 
possibility for serious harm. Recent statistics indicate a growing willingness 
to use weapons. Street crime, including pickpocketing and mugging, is common in 
downtown Asuncion, at the bus terminal, and on public buses. Groups of children 
have been known to mob pedestrians and steal purses and wallets. For 2014, the 
Paraguayan National Police (PNP) reported marked increases in vehicle theft 
(+25 percent), robbery (+10 percent), aggravated robbery (+12 percent), and 
aggravated theft (+13 percent) as compared to 2013, with other crime categories 
remaining mostly stagnant. The PNP acknowledges that many crimes go unreported 
due to lack of confidence in the judicial process. Armed robberies, car thefts 
(occasionally including carjacking), and burglaries are common. 

Increasing incidents of muggers using motorcycles to approach their victims 
have also been reported. One tactic becoming more common is a thief breaking 
the passenger window of a vehicle stopped at a traffic light or in traffic, 
grabbing a purse or bag from the car seat, and escaping on the back of a 
waiting motorcycle.

Another tactic is for thieves to target people making large cash transactions 
at banks. There have been instances of bank employees working with criminal 
elements to identify and rob individuals after they withdraw large amounts of 
cash.

Residences with augmented security are not immune from burglaries. Many 
burglaries occur during the day when occupants are not at the residence or when 
easily manipulated household staff fails to use appropriate security protocols. 
In some cases, police officers and security guards are complicit in the crimes. 
It is common for homeowners to be held at gunpoint during robberies.  

There is no pervasive anti-American sentiment in Paraguay, however, criminals 
frequently target those believed to be wealthy, which. U.S. citizens are 
perceived to be.  
https://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=17213
 

 From: "sri...@ymail.com" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 8:22 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] latin America tops in happiness
   
    Latin American Countries Are The Happiest In The World, Gallup Poll Finds 
||
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World, ...  Paraguay ranked highest in Gallup's Positive Experience Index.| 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

2015-04-03 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]


 So, you tried to pass yourself off as a TMer "cook", so you could get a job in 
the kitchen of a religious school up in Iowa, where you could take naps twice a 
day, and sleep inside a pod, but Lawson's mind is mush, living in a house in 
Phoenix, working as a trained computer programmer. Go figure.

You're not even making any sense.Why would you try to pass yourself off as a 
TMer cook when you couldn't even set a dinning room table? Go figure.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Your years of TM have turned your mind to mush.You are incorrect. Here is the 
definition of shill:
 

 an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic 
customer to entice or encourage others.
 

 Marshy was the swindler and the TMO is now the swindler. Roth is the 
accomplice. It fits very well.




 

 From: "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 6:54 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...
 
 
   Bobby isn't a shill. A shill is someone who is pretending that they do NOT 
work for an organization but actually do.
 

 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 For what purpose would you be wanting to get your TM med checked? Go figure.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wow! Golly gee! 

 

 A real shore 'nuff news article posted on the Maharishi Foundation USA web 
site and written by grinning Bobby Roth, certified shill for the TM Movement! 

 

 I must-a been wrong in all I ever said about TM being a mediocre technique and 
Marshy being a con man! 

 

 I guess I need to dust off my TM mantra and go to the nearest Peace Palace and 
get my TM med checked.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 12:37 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM reaches the Orient...
 
 
   
 More than 3,000 Buddhist monks in 100 monasteries throughout Southeast Asia 
have learned the Transcendental Meditation technique 
http://www.tm.org/meditation-techniques?leadsource=CRM421, as a result of the 
work by a revered Japanese Buddhist 
http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/japan/japanworkbook/religion/jbuddhis.htmlmonk, 
Reverend Koji Oshima, who is a longtime TM practitioner and certified TM 
teacher.
 
 According to Rev. Oshima, the Buddhist monks appreciate the simplicity, 
effortlessness, and profound experience of transcendence, which is gained 
almost immediately after starting the TM practice. Rev. Oshima adds that 
transcendence provides the natural basis for the monk’s subsequent prayers and 
practices.
 Thousands of Buddhist Monks in Asia Learn Transcendental Meditation | 
Transcendental Meditation® Blog 
http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/buddhist-monks/

 
 
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 Thousands of Buddhist Monks in Asia Learn Transcendenta... 
http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/buddhist-monks/ More than 3,000 Buddhist 
monks in 100 monasteries throughout Southeast Asia have learned the 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

2015-04-03 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

What I liked about the movie Bad Teacher, is while the character played by Diaz 
has to adjust to a new situation in her life that resulted from her 'badness', 
it is not a Cinderella, Disney kind of story where everything like her 
personality turns to gold. It has a more realistic arc that does not magically 
undo her 'morally bankrupt' characteristics. She adapts to the extent she has 
to and finds a modicum of satisfaction well below her original goals. 

 I did see Chopra a few times within the movement. The last time I saw him he 
was coming out of the Twenty-First Century Bookstore in Fairfield, IA (the 
local Ru Woo bookstore which no longer exists I hear). Interestingly, the first 
time I heard Chopra speak within the movement he was much more sceptical about 
such things as what Ayurveda could accomplish, but I think once he got the idea 
he could make money selling nostrums, that scepticism was quietly put away. 
Those well inculcated by TM philosophy always seemed to feel that something was 
not quite right with him, that he was out for himself, which probably was true, 
as he did not turn out to be the tool Maharishi wanted for promoting the 
movement, which is of course someone who only promotes Maharishi's goals, 
financial and otherwise.
 

 The Chopra-Mlodinow book was one of the results after the following exchange 
occurred at the end of a panel debate (the future of God) at CalTech. This was 
the first time they encountered each other, and Mlodinow was in the audience. 
Physicist Leonard Mlodinow vs. Deepak Chopra.WMV https://youtu.be/Z17sIJyQ3oY 
 
 https://youtu.be/Z17sIJyQ3oY 
 
 Physicist Leonard Mlodinow vs. Deepak Chopra.WMV https://youtu.be/Z17sIJyQ3oY 
TrueSquimished
 
 
 
 View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/Z17sIJyQ3oY 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great response. For the record, if I ever mention Deepak Chopra here, know 
that it is on the basis of the few -- VERY few -- net articles of his I have 
glanced at over the years. Color me not impressed. The analogy of "sponge mind" 
may be aiming too far up the evolutionary chain for me to agree with it. :-)
 

 I missed him entirely in the TMO, having bailed years before he appeared and 
did his cometary flame-out. So when I say I think he's a mental midget, it's 
NOT because I am compulsively trying to dump on all things TM. I don't even 
*know* him in relation to TM. I think he's a mental midget because he speaks 
and writes like a mental midget. 

 
 The "Bad Teacher" thing is amusing, and I take it as a "writing prompt" cue 
and will duly download that movie and watch it. I missed it as if wafted 
through the mediaverse, and will try to catch up to it now.  
 

 I've waxed forth on my underwhelmedness about David Lynch here before, and 
don't feel the need to do so extensively again. I think he's a guy who *could* 
have been a true creative force in the cinema, but instead decided to settle 
first for being a "critics' darling" and then later for a "guru's darling." 

 

 Here's a prediction. No "seeing" involved, just watching trends and 
extrapolating from them. The much-discussed and in some circles 
much-anticipated followup to Lynch's "Twin Peaks" will never happen. The reason 
it will never happen is that Lynch will come up with excuse after excuse after 
excuse for why he can't supply the contracted-for scripts and will finally bail 
from the project. You heard it here first.  :-)
 

 From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...
 
 
   I was just listening to an audio book version of War of the Worldviews in 
which Deepak Chopra and physicist Leaonard Mlodinow present essays of opposing 
viewpoints on various subjects such as science consciousness etc. I am 
surprised in a way that Chopra still sounds a lot like Maharishi, and has 
especially spongy thinking. Mlodinaw is sharp as a tack. In the audio book 
(which the authors are reading) you get a better idea of how they are regarding 
their subject matter. However which author's argument you prefer might be a 
function of how your brain has been preprogrammed. What is interesting in this 
exchange is Mlodinow is a real physicist and is not making any concessions to 
Woo and sloppy thinking.
 

 I heard that the Westchester TM in their Spring Celebration showed a video of 
Bobby Roth interviewing Cameron Diaz, a TM meditator. What I find interesting 
is I recently watched a movie with Diaz, Bad Teacher, in which her character 
displays most of the worst characteristics of a human being, things the TM org 
would not allow any of their members to display in public, but which behind the 
scenes they do as a matter of course. As long as it provides a means to 
advertise TM the org will go for it. 
 

 One could take David Lynch's films, most of which are dark, weird, and 
murderous as an example of wha

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

2015-04-03 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

"Interestingly, the first time I heard Chopra speak within the movement he was 
much more sceptical about such things as what Ayurveda could accomplish"
You are kidding!!! When and where was this? This is the first time I have ever 
heard of that!

  From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 11:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

    What I liked about the movie Bad Teacher, is while the character played by 
Diaz has to adjust to a new situation in her life that resulted from her 
'badness', it is not a Cinderella, Disney kind of story where everything like 
her personality turns to gold. It has a more realistic arc that does not 
magically undo her 'morally bankrupt' characteristics. She adapts to the extent 
she has to and finds a modicum of satisfaction well below her original goals.
I did see Chopra a few times within the movement. The last time I saw him he 
was coming out of the Twenty-First Century Bookstore in Fairfield, IA (the 
local Ru Woo bookstore which no longer exists I hear). Interestingly, the first 
time I heard Chopra speak within the movement he was much more sceptical about 
such things as what Ayurveda could accomplish, but I think once he got the idea 
he could make money selling nostrums, that scepticism was quietly put away. 
Those well inculcated by TM philosophy always seemed to feel that something was 
not quite right with him, that he was out for himself, which probably was true, 
as he did not turn out to be the tool Maharishi wanted for promoting the 
movement, which is of course someone who only promotes Maharishi's goals, 
financial and otherwise.
The Chopra-Mlodinow book was one of the results after the following exchange 
occurred at the end of a panel debate (the future of God) at CalTech. This was 
the first time they encountered each other, and Mlodinow was in the audience. 
Physicist Leonard Mlodinow vs. Deepak Chopra.WMV 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Great response. For the record, if I ever mention Deepak Chopra here, know that 
it is on the basis of the few -- VERY few -- net articles of his I have glanced 
at over the years. Color me not impressed. The analogy of "sponge mind" may be 
aiming too far up the evolutionary chain for me to agree with it. :-)
I missed him entirely in the TMO, having bailed years before he appeared and 
did his cometary flame-out. So when I say I think he's a mental midget, it's 
NOT because I am compulsively trying to dump on all things TM. I don't even 
*know* him in relation to TM. I think he's a mental midget because he speaks 
and writes like a mental midget. 
The "Bad Teacher" thing is amusing, and I take it as a "writing prompt" cue and 
will duly download that movie and watch it. I missed it as if wafted through 
the mediaverse, and will try to catch up to it now.  
I've waxed forth on my underwhelmedness about David Lynch here before, and 
don't feel the need to do so extensively again. I think he's a guy who *could* 
have been a true creative force in the cinema, but instead decided to settle 
first for being a "critics' darling" and then later for a "guru's darling." 

Here's a prediction. No "seeing" involved, just watching trends and 
extrapolating from them. The much-discussed and in some circles 
much-anticipated followup to Lynch's "Twin Peaks" will never happen. The reason 
it will never happen is that Lynch will come up with excuse after excuse after 
excuse for why he can't supply the contracted-for scripts and will finally bail 
from the project. You heard it here first.  :-) 
  From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

 I was just listening to an audio book version of War of the Worldviews in 
which Deepak Chopra and physicist Leaonard Mlodinow present essays of opposing 
viewpoints on various subjects such as science consciousness etc. I am 
surprised in a way that Chopra still sounds a lot like Maharishi, and has 
especially spongy thinking. Mlodinaw is sharp as a tack. In the audio book 
(which the authors are reading) you get a better idea of how they are regarding 
their subject matter. However which author's argument you prefer might be a 
function of how your brain has been preprogrammed. What is interesting in this 
exchange is Mlodinow is a real physicist and is not making any concessions to 
Woo and sloppy thinking.
I heard that the Westchester TM in their Spring Celebration showed a video of 
Bobby Roth interviewing Cameron Diaz, a TM meditator. What I find interesting 
is I recently watched a movie with Diaz, Bad Teacher, in which her character 
displays most of the worst char

[FairfieldLife] Cool

2015-04-03 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

This Is Big: A Robo-Car Just Drove Across the Country | WIRED


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| This Is Big: A Robo-Car Just Drove Across the Country | ...Nine days, 15 
states, and 3,400 miles after leaving San Francisco, Delphi's autonomous car 
arrived in New York City. |
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[FairfieldLife] Flashback: One of my first FFL posts, explaining my nom de net

2015-04-03 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Some poems I enjoyed re-reading this afternoon, as
translated by Coleman Barks. There is information
about the author after the poems themselves.

**

Even the stars can be measured,
their arrangements and influences.
Her body can be lovingly touched,
but not her deep longings.
Those cannot be understood
by science.

**

The ink of lovesongs
washes off in the rain,
but the love itself,
that which cannot be
written down, stays
inside *here*

**

I listen intently
to what my teacher says
but beneath that concentration
my loving slips
out of the room
to be with you.

**

In meditation, the face of my teacher
does not come to me very clearly,
but your face does, smiling one way,
then smiling another.

**

If I could meditate as deeply
on the sacred texts as I do
on you, I would clearly be
enlightened in this lifetime.

**

Your stallion trots on the slippery ice,
over deep-frozen and nearly-frozen water.
When you move toward the beauty of a new lover,
be careful that your secret legs
don't scatter and fall!

**

The old dog at the gate
has a more subtle soul
than most human beings.
Please don't tell them
how I left at dusk
and came back in at dawn!

**

Lover waiting in my bed
to give me your soft, sweet body,
do you mean well?
What will you take off me,
besides my clothes?

**

At night, I'm so in love
I can't sleep, and each day
fills with the fatigue
of not having you again.

**

Wanting this landlord's daughter
is wanting the topmost
peach.

**

The moon lifts
over the hill edge.
Inside, I see
you smiling.

**

Back when I was lucky,
I could hoist a prayerflag,
and some well-bred young woman
would invite me home.

**

She shone her whole smiling face
at the crowd in the tavern.
Then, from the delicate corners
of her eyes, she spoke
love-secrets to me.

**

I'm young, so
with a slight smile
you have me.
But what I want
is a word from the stream
of your being.

**

I often see my lost lover in dreams.
I will ask a shaman to search in there
and bring her back to me.

**

We've had our short walk together,
this joy. Let's hope we meet early
in the next life, as young lovers.

**

Pure snow-water from the holy mountain,
Dew off the rare Naga Vajra grass.
These essences make a nectar
which is fermented by one
who is incarnated as a maiden.
Her cup's contents can protect you
from rebirth in a lower form,
if it is tasted in the state
of awareness it deserves.

**

I know her body's softness
but not her love.
I draw figures in sand
to measure great distances
through the sky.

**

While I live in the monastery palace,
I am Ridzin Tsangyang Gyatso,
honored in this lineage.
When I roam the streets in Lhasa,
and down in the valley to Shol,
I am the wildman, Dangyang Wangpo,
who has many lovers.


These poems are actually songs, written spontaneously
by a 17th-century poet who called himself the Turquoise
Bee. His real name was Ridzin ("treasure") Tsangyang
("having a voice like God's") Gyatso (the lineage),
also known as the Sixth Dalai Lama.

The Great Fifth died suddenly, without fully predicting
where his next incarnation would be born, so he was not
enthroned as the Dalai Lama until he was 14. And although
he passed all of the 30-day tests to indicate that he
was the true tulku of the Great Fifth, he never quite
"worked out" as Dalai Lama the way the monks expected
him to.

He spent his days in the Potala palace, writing scholarly
works about Buddhism and presiding over the spiritual and
mundane affairs of Tibet, but he spent his night in Shol-
town (Lhasa's red light district) drinking and carousing
with the gals. And writing spontaneous poem-songs like
these. His songs were so lovely that they were still sung 
on the streets in Tibet until the 1950s, when the Chinese 
outlawed street singing.

I like his poetry because it has the majesty of the best
writers of koans and haiku, but I like *him* because I
identify with his lifestyle. Like him, I paid my dues
learning the ins and outs of spiritual thought and the
arts of meditation. Like him I make my living during the
day writing esoteric treatises -- his on Buddhism, me

Re: [FairfieldLife] Long but tremendous article about "Max Headroom"

2015-04-03 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]


Did you watch the series back then?

On 04/02/2015 10:26 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
*/Great article about one of the weirdest TV series ever, which was 
all about taking the piss out of television ON television. There has 
never been anything else quite like it.../*

*/
/*
*/Max Headroom: the definitive history of the 1980s digital icon 
/*



image 







Max Headroom: the definitive history of the 1980s digita... 
 

On Thursday, April 4th, 1985, a blast of dystopian satire hit the UK 
airwaves. Max Headroom: 20 Minutes into the Future was a snarky take 
on media and corporate gr...


View on www.theverge.com 



Preview by Yahoo

[FairfieldLife] Finding "Going Clear"

2015-04-03 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

Try before HBO finds it:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2l7b1p

[FairfieldLife] More UK "weird" TV

2015-04-03 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

Netflix streaming added "Residue" season 1. It's three episodes and I 
binge watched it last night.  I like the way the UK makes their guvmint 
the villain in some of their shows.  This one is no exception.  We used 
to do that in the US too until Asscroft, after 9/11, told Hollywood to 
stop it.

http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/80035480

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Future Living for Americans?

2015-04-03 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]


Article in the Guardian about Oregon's tiny house solution for the homeless:
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/apr/01/oregon-tiny-houses-solution-homelessness

Problem with America is instead of reasonably sized home or even 
bungalows, contractors went for large "McMansion" homes due to the 
profit.  The fate of those may well be the same as when they went nutso 
about building big houses 100 years ago.  They wind up being "boarding 
houses".


As for bungalows (usually 2 bedroom homes), I hear some contractors are 
building them again.  But I can imagine the "out of touch" yuppies 
protesting it.  Back when I bought this house I was looking for 
bungalows as a more reasonable buy but they often got snapped up before 
they hit the market through word of mouth.


On 04/02/2015 06:58 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


It's reminds me of the lifestyle of the (anti-)hero of William 
Gibson's seminal novel Neuromancer.



One striking feature is that anyone who tried to live in an internet 
café in London, Paris or New York would have their meagre possessions 
stolen within days. Japan has such a strong shame-culture ethic they 
don't have those worries. In Tokyo you can find food- and 
cigarette-vending machines on street corners made of such flimsy 
plastic that they could be ripped open using muscle power alone. 
They'd be cleaned out within 24 hours anywhere else.


The Japanese have also pioneered those capsule hotels that look like 
they should be on a submarine or spaceship rather than planet Earth. 
 (There is something dinky and cute about them mind!) This is what the 
future looks like . . .

[FairfieldLife] Re: Finding "Going Clear"

2015-04-03 Thread salyavin808


 Good find. cheers.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Try before HBO finds it:
 
 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2l7b1p 
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2l7b1p

Re: [FairfieldLife] Cool

2015-04-03 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

I always thought that self driving cars would have a manual override in 
them.  But some of these don't even have a steering wheel.  I suspect we 
may seem some massive accidents from these.  You don't want to trust 
technology too much:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/03/31/driver-follows-gps-off-demolished-bridge-killing-wife-police-say/

BTW, Mercedes tested their robo car at the nearby abandoned naval base 
and now Honda is.


On 04/03/2015 08:41 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
*/This Is Big: A Robo-Car Just Drove Across the Country | WIRED 
/*

*/
/*


image 





This Is Big: A Robo-Car Just Drove Across the Country | ... 

Nine days, 15 states, and 3,400 miles after leaving San Francisco, 
Delphi's autonomous car arrived in New York City.


View on www.wired.com 



Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Long but tremendous article about "Max Headroom"

2015-04-03 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Duh. Of course. It was the hippest thing anyone had ever seen.

  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 6:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Long but tremendous article about "Max Headroom"
   
 Did you watch the series back then?  
 
 On 04/02/2015 10:26 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
  


     Great article about one of the weirdest TV series ever, which was all 
about taking the piss out of television ON television.  There has never been 
anything else quite like it... 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Flashback: One of my first FFL posts, explaining my nom de net

2015-04-03 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

Now this is really funny - a guy used as his alias the nickname of the perv 
"Sixth Dalai Lama" and before that posed as an old geezer named "Uncle Tantra", 
is obviously a guy practicing celibacy, quoting religious scriptures, and can't 
even get a date on Saturday night. You can't make this stuff up. LoL!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Some poems I enjoyed re-reading this afternoon, as
translated by Coleman Barks. There is information
about the author after the poems themselves.

**

Even the stars can be measured,
their arrangements and influences.
Her body can be lovingly touched,
but not her deep longings.
Those cannot be understood
by science.

**

The ink of lovesongs
washes off in the rain,
but the love itself,
that which cannot be
written down, stays
inside *here*

**

I listen intently
to what my teacher says
but beneath that concentration
my loving slips
out of the room
to be with you.

**

In meditation, the face of my teacher
does not come to me very clearly,
but your face does, smiling one way,
then smiling another.

**

If I could meditate as deeply
on the sacred texts as I do
on you, I would clearly be
enlightened in this lifetime.

**

Your stallion trots on the slippery ice,
over deep-frozen and nearly-frozen water.
When you move toward the beauty of a new lover,
be careful that your secret legs
don't scatter and fall!

**

The old dog at the gate
has a more subtle soul
than most human beings.
Please don't tell them
how I left at dusk
and came back in at dawn!

**

Lover waiting in my bed
to give me your soft, sweet body,
do you mean well?
What will you take off me,
besides my clothes?

**

At night, I'm so in love
I can't sleep, and each day
fills with the fatigue
of not having you again.

**

Wanting this landlord's daughter
is wanting the topmost
peach.

**

The moon lifts
over the hill edge.
Inside, I see
you smiling.

**

Back when I was lucky,
I could hoist a prayerflag,
and some well-bred young woman
would invite me home.

**

She shone her whole smiling face
at the crowd in the tavern.
Then, from the delicate corners
of her eyes, she spoke
love-secrets to me.

**

I'm young, so
with a slight smile
you have me.
But what I want
is a word from the stream
of your being.

**

I often see my lost lover in dreams.
I will ask a shaman to search in there
and bring her back to me.

**

We've had our short walk together,
this joy. Let's hope we meet early
in the next life, as young lovers.

**

Pure snow-water from the holy mountain,
Dew off the rare Naga Vajra grass.
These essences make a nectar
which is fermented by one
who is incarnated as a maiden.
Her cup's contents can protect you
from rebirth in a lower form,
if it is tasted in the state
of awareness it deserves.

**

I know her body's softness
but not her love.
I draw figures in sand
to measure great distances
through the sky.

**

While I live in the monastery palace,
I am Ridzin Tsangyang Gyatso,
honored in this lineage.
When I roam the streets in Lhasa,
and down in the valley to Shol,
I am the wildman, Dangyang Wangpo,
who has many lovers.



 These poems are actually songs, written spontaneously
by a 17th-century poet who called himself the Turquoise
Bee. His real name was Ridzin ("treasure") Tsangyang
("having a voice like God's") Gyatso (the lineage),
also known as the Sixth Dalai Lama.

The Great Fifth died suddenly, without fully predicting
where his next incarnation would be born, so he was not
enthroned as the Dalai Lama until he was 14. And although
he passed all of the 30-day tests to indicate that he
was the true tulku of the Great Fifth, he never quite
"worked out" as Dalai Lama the way the monks expected
him to.

He spent his days in the Potala palace, writing scholarly
works about Buddhism and presiding over the spiritual and
mundane affairs of Tibet, but he spent his night in Shol-
town (Lhasa's red light district) drinking and carousing
with the gals. And writing spontaneous poem-songs like
these. His songs were so lovely that they were still sung 

 on the streets in Tibet until the 1950s, when the Chi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Long but tremendous article about "Max Headroom"

2015-04-03 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]


 Network https://youtu.be/MTN3s2iVKKI 
 
 https://youtu.be/MTN3s2iVKKI 
 
 Network https://youtu.be/MTN3s2iVKKI A movie made 30 years ago that perfectly 
describes the situation today about television, news, and the main stream 
media. It resonates louder and sounds ...
 
 
 
 View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/MTN3s2iVKKI 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great article about one of the weirdest TV series ever, which was all about 
taking the piss out of television ON television. There has never been anything 
else quite like it...
 

 Max Headroom: the definitive history of the 1980s digital icon 
http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/2/8285139/max-headroom-oral-history-80s-cyberpunk-interview
 

  
  
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

2015-04-03 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]


 So, you watched the movie "Bad Teacher" with Carmen Diaz, but you've never 
read a single Chopra book? Go figure.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What I liked about the movie Bad Teacher, is while the character played by 
Diaz has to adjust to a new situation in her life that resulted from her 
'badness', it is not a Cinderella, Disney kind of story where everything like 
her personality turns to gold. It has a more realistic arc that does not 
magically undo her 'morally bankrupt' characteristics. She adapts to the extent 
she has to and finds a modicum of satisfaction well below her original goals. 

 I did see Chopra a few times within the movement. The last time I saw him he 
was coming out of the Twenty-First Century Bookstore in Fairfield, IA (the 
local Ru Woo bookstore which no longer exists I hear). Interestingly, the first 
time I heard Chopra speak within the movement he was much more sceptical about 
such things as what Ayurveda could accomplish, but I think once he got the idea 
he could make money selling nostrums, that scepticism was quietly put away. 
Those well inculcated by TM philosophy always seemed to feel that something was 
not quite right with him, that he was out for himself, which probably was true, 
as he did not turn out to be the tool Maharishi wanted for promoting the 
movement, which is of course someone who only promotes Maharishi's goals, 
financial and otherwise.
 

 The Chopra-Mlodinow book was one of the results after the following exchange 
occurred at the end of a panel debate (the future of God) at CalTech. This was 
the first time they encountered each other, and Mlodinow was in the audience. 
Physicist Leonard Mlodinow vs. Deepak Chopra.WMV https://youtu.be/Z17sIJyQ3oY 
 
 https://youtu.be/Z17sIJyQ3oY
 
 Physicist Leonard Mlodinow vs. Deepak Chopra.WMV https://youtu.be/Z17sIJyQ3oY 
TrueSquimished


 
 View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/Z17sIJyQ3oY
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great response. For the record, if I ever mention Deepak Chopra here, know 
that it is on the basis of the few -- VERY few -- net articles of his I have 
glanced at over the years. Color me not impressed. The analogy of "sponge mind" 
may be aiming too far up the evolutionary chain for me to agree with it. :-)
 

 I missed him entirely in the TMO, having bailed years before he appeared and 
did his cometary flame-out. So when I say I think he's a mental midget, it's 
NOT because I am compulsively trying to dump on all things TM. I don't even 
*know* him in relation to TM. I think he's a mental midget because he speaks 
and writes like a mental midget. 

 
 The "Bad Teacher" thing is amusing, and I take it as a "writing prompt" cue 
and will duly download that movie and watch it. I missed it as if wafted 
through the mediaverse, and will try to catch up to it now.  
 

 I've waxed forth on my underwhelmedness about David Lynch here before, and 
don't feel the need to do so extensively again. I think he's a guy who *could* 
have been a true creative force in the cinema, but instead decided to settle 
first for being a "critics' darling" and then later for a "guru's darling." 

 

 Here's a prediction. No "seeing" involved, just watching trends and 
extrapolating from them. The much-discussed and in some circles 
much-anticipated followup to Lynch's "Twin Peaks" will never happen. The reason 
it will never happen is that Lynch will come up with excuse after excuse after 
excuse for why he can't supply the contracted-for scripts and will finally bail 
from the project. You heard it here first.  :-)
 

 From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...
 
 
   I was just listening to an audio book version of War of the Worldviews in 
which Deepak Chopra and physicist Leaonard Mlodinow present essays of opposing 
viewpoints on various subjects such as science consciousness etc. I am 
surprised in a way that Chopra still sounds a lot like Maharishi, and has 
especially spongy thinking. Mlodinaw is sharp as a tack. In the audio book 
(which the authors are reading) you get a better idea of how they are regarding 
their subject matter. However which author's argument you prefer might be a 
function of how your brain has been preprogrammed. What is interesting in this 
exchange is Mlodinow is a real physicist and is not making any concessions to 
Woo and sloppy thinking.
 

 I heard that the Westchester TM in their Spring Celebration showed a video of 
Bobby Roth interviewing Cameron Diaz, a TM meditator. What I find interesting 
is I recently watched a movie with Diaz, Bad Teacher, in which her character 
displays most of the worst characteristics of a human being, things the TM org 
would not allow any of their members to display in public, but which behind the 
scenes they do as a matter of course. As long as it provi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Long but tremendous article about "Max Headroom"

2015-04-03 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

I watched it too back then.  I might had to use a newly acquired device 
to watch it though: a VCR. :-D


That was because I was working some nights it was on.

On 04/03/2015 11:01 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

*/Duh. Of course. It was the hippest thing anyone had ever seen./*


*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, April 3, 2015 6:03 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Long but tremendous article about "Max 
Headroom"


Did you watch the series back then?

On 04/02/2015 10:26 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:



*/Great article about one of the weirdest TV series ever, which was 
all about taking the piss out of television ON television. There has 
never been anything else quite like it.../*

*/
/*
*/Max Headroom: the definitive history of the 1980s digital icon 
/*



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on media and corporate gr...


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Preview by Yahoo

[FairfieldLife] One for Turq and fellow conspiracy fans

2015-04-03 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

"American Odyssey" stars Anna Friel and debuts on NBC Sunday night:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3551796/

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/01/arts/television/review-american-odyssey-a-new-nbc-series-stars-anna-friel.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Finding "Going Clear"

2015-04-03 Thread salyavin808


 Compulsory viewing. Particularly pleasing to see is the apology from the 
ex-member who gave John Sweeney from the BBC such a hard time when he was 
trying to film a documentary about them.
 

 Particularly sinister is the "squirrel buster" team that harass you constantly 
for years if you leave the org and say things they don't like.
 

 The rest of it is just bonkers.
 

 It's a lucky escape not getting involved with that lot...

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Try before HBO finds it:
 
 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2l7b1p 
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2l7b1p

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-03 Thread ultrarishi

So here's my 2 bits worth.  I think "Going Clear" did a good job with a complex 
subject in a limited amount  of time.  It probably would have done better as a 
series or mini-series because there is just so much great stuff to talk about.  
Lisa McPherson, Ron DeWolfe, Grady Ward, etc.
 
 My limited involvement with SCN began in 1975 about the same time I started 
TM.  I was in my last year of college and generally stressed out and unhappy at 
that time.  I saw the Merv special and took up TM in October and got some 
relief in life.  In December, a cousin of mine who had been in the CoS for 
about 7 years (I'm guessing) came to Christmas and gave as a present a 
paperback copy of Dianetics:TMOMH.
 I knew next to nothing about a Dianetics and just the tiniest bit about SCN.  
 
 After having read it, I thought I should look into this.  But, I was wondering 
how has this been kept so quiet for 26 years if it really lives up to its 
claims. 
 
 I went to the downtown CoS in San Francisco and spoke with a very aggressive 
and attractive blonde who explained the basics of you need to get on The Bridge 
and learn auditing and the whole sales pitch.
 She also explained how ridiculously expensive it was (so I thought).  Anyway, 
I did their Communications Course, which I found interesting, but having 
completed that I moved on.  I saw serious dysfunction in a place supposedly 
full of advance people and I saw opportunism taking place against the naive who 
were desperately looking for solutions.
 Anyway, finished college, stuck with TM and moved on with my life.  Over the 
years I read most of what Hubbard publicly published about SCN and Dianetics 
and some of his fiction.  Found him absolutely fascinating and bat-shit crazy.  
He tapped into that perfect blend of wisdom and affability while disguising his 
avarice and his paranoia.
  
 While I continue to do TM and later on the Siddhis, I never wanted to be part 
of the TM movement itself.  I felt that despite its many benefits, I am not a 
follower or worshipper, and I'm too self-centered to want to save the world and 
forgo my own needs and desires.  Most die-hard teachers and followers I found 
just too annoying, vapid, one-sided.  I was and am thankful for their 
dedication and keeping centers open (when they can), but I had other interest, 
many of which are far from Sattvic.
  
 One of the great things about getting on the Internet back in the early 90's 
was the use of Netcom and its built-in IRC applet.  I was able to participate 
and lurk with the #scientology group during the early outing of the CoS 
misdeeds and misbehavior.  It was interesting to see them aggressively try to 
"handle the Internet".
 My favorite resource online of all things anti-CoS and anti-LRH has been 
Xenu.net.  It is an incredible collection of stuff.  Their links to xenu tv are 
precious and xenu tv has some documentaries that are far more informative than 
what HBO attempted.  Their especially good since they are produced with 
1/10,000 the budget of the cable company.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

2015-04-03 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

This was in Washington D.C. Think it was about 1985, I do not recall exactly. 
His comments were specifically related to the claim that Ayurveda could cure 
diabetes. As you recall, there was a time that TM was supposed to cure 
everything, the solution to all problems. At time went on, Chopra the MD became 
more and more Chopra the Woo Doctor. He also had a wife who did not want to 
live within the movement's restrictions as far as income etc., and Chopra was 
concerned about this, he had had after all a good position at a hospital. 
Apparently he got some financial concessions from Maharishi, but eventually 
Chopra wanted to go his own way more independently and Maharishi could not get 
his cut of the action, which as you know would ideally be all of it. My guess 
is Chopra was fairly rational until the movement got its claws into him, and 
like Hagelin, fell into a more irrational frame of mind. The movement seems to 
lack someone who could put the ideas about reality and consciousness into some 
kind of rational perspective that is also actually in tune with scientific 
principles rather than in tune with a parody of scientific principles.
  From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 3:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...
   
    "Interestingly, the first time I heard Chopra speak within the movement he 
was much more sceptical about such things as what Ayurveda could accomplish"
You are kidding!!! When and where was this? This is the first time I have ever 
heard of that!

 

 From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 11:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...
   
    What I liked about the movie Bad Teacher, is while the character played by 
Diaz has to adjust to a new situation in her life that resulted from her 
'badness', it is not a Cinderella, Disney kind of story where everything like 
her personality turns to gold. It has a more realistic arc that does not 
magically undo her 'morally bankrupt' characteristics. She adapts to the extent 
she has to and finds a modicum of satisfaction well below her original goals.
I did see Chopra a few times within the movement. The last time I saw him he 
was coming out of the Twenty-First Century Bookstore in Fairfield, IA (the 
local Ru Woo bookstore which no longer exists I hear). Interestingly, the first 
time I heard Chopra speak within the movement he was much more sceptical about 
such things as what Ayurveda could accomplish, but I think once he got the idea 
he could make money selling nostrums, that scepticism was quietly put away. 
Those well inculcated by TM philosophy always seemed to feel that something was 
not quite right with him, that he was out for himself, which probably was true, 
as he did not turn out to be the tool Maharishi wanted for promoting the 
movement, which is of course someone who only promotes Maharishi's goals, 
financial and otherwise.
The Chopra-Mlodinow book was one of the results after the following exchange 
occurred at the end of a panel debate (the future of God) at CalTech. This was 
the first time they encountered each other, and Mlodinow was in the audience. 
Physicist Leonard Mlodinow vs. Deepak Chopra.WMV 
||
||||   Physicist Leonard Mlodinow vs. Deepak Chopra.WMV  
TrueSquimished||
|  View on youtu.be  |Preview by Yahoo|
||

   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Great response. For the record, if I ever mention Deepak Chopra here, know that 
it is on the basis of the few -- VERY few -- net articles of his I have glanced 
at over the years. Color me not impressed. The analogy of "sponge mind" may be 
aiming too far up the evolutionary chain for me to agree with it. :-)
I missed him entirely in the TMO, having bailed years before he appeared and 
did his cometary flame-out. So when I say I think he's a mental midget, it's 
NOT because I am compulsively trying to dump on all things TM. I don't even 
*know* him in relation to TM. I think he's a mental midget because he speaks 
and writes like a mental midget. 
The "Bad Teacher" thing is amusing, and I take it as a "writing prompt" cue and 
will duly download that movie and watch it. I missed it as if wafted through 
the mediaverse, and will try to catch up to it now.  
I've waxed forth on my underwhelmedness about David Lynch here before, and 
don't feel the need to do so extensively again. I think he's a guy who *could* 
have been a true creative force in the cinema, but instead decided to settle 
first for being a "critics' darling" and then later for a "guru's darling." 

Here's a prediction. No "seeing" involved, just watching trends and 
extrapolating from them. The much-discussed and in some circles 
much-anticipated followup to Lynch's "Twin Peaks" will never happen. The reason

Re: [FairfieldLife] Raja Luis on yogic flyers in S.A.: 50,000 => 100,000 => 1 million

2015-04-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]

Certainly, there is quite a distance between the Governor of a Mexican state 
cutting hte ribbon for a new building, and one million students in Latin 
America learning Yogic Flying, but my impression is that Luis Alverez is a 
pretty decent fellow, overall. 

 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 According to Raja Luis
 

 That is the operative phrase. Luis is a liar and learned to be so from his 
mentors in the Movement. Lying to get prestige and money is endemic to and an 
integral part of the Movement. Always has been always will be.

 

 From: "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 9:23 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Raja Luis on yogic flyers in S.A.: 50,000 => 100,000 
=> 1 million
 
 
   
 http://www.maharishichannel.in/archives/2014_mp4/2014_play_mp4.php 
http://www.maharishichannel.in/archives/2014_mp4/2014_play_mp4.php

 

 

 The video shows the inauguration of the first official vastu flying hall in 
Mexico, attended by the governor of the state and other government dignitaries. 
According to Raja Luis, South American governments are jumping on the bandwagon 
of requesting TM and TM-SIdhis instruction far faster than they can meet demand 
and they are training one or two teachers in each school to be TM teachers to 
provide followup for each school because there is no practical way to do it 
otherwise.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

2015-04-03 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]


 According to what I've read, Chopra never said that "TM" was "the solution to 
all problems." In fact, Chopra doesn't even mention TM in his first book, 
"Return of the Rishi". It's just too bad Judy isn't here anymore to correct all 
these claims. We will ask Chopra about this when he gets to town. Go figure.

San Antonio, TX - The Future of Wellbeing, The 13th Disciple Book Tour 
https://www.deepakchopra.com/event/article/362 
 
 https://www.deepakchopra.com/event/article/362 
 
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https://www.deepakchopra.com/event/article/362 San Antonio, TX April 8, 2015 
The 13th Disciple Book Tour Join Deepak Chopra for a book signing!
 
 
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This was in Washington D.C. Think it was about 1985, I do not recall exactly. 
His comments were specifically related to the claim that Ayurveda could cure 
diabetes. As you recall, there was a time that TM was supposed to cure 
everything, the solution to all problems. 

Non sequitur. Nobody ever claimed that TM could cure diabetes.

At time went on, Chopra the MD became more and more Chopra the Woo Doctor. 

Non sequitur.

He also had a wife who did not want to live within the movement's restrictions 
as far as income etc., and Chopra was concerned about this, he had had after 
all a good position at a hospital.

Non sequitur.

Apparently he got some financial concessions from Maharishi, but eventually 
Chopra wanted to go his own way more independently and Maharishi could not get 
his cut of the action, which as you know would ideally be all of it. My guess 
is Chopra was fairly rational until the movement got its claws into him, and 
like Hagelin, fell into a more irrational frame of mind. The movement seems to 
lack someone who could put the ideas about reality and consciousness into some 
kind of rational perspective that is also actually in tune with scientific 
principles rather than in tune with a parody of scientific principles.

Non sequitur. Of course, Chopra, who is an M.D., couldn't begin to compare to 
all your scientific credentials. LoL!


 From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 3:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...
 
 
   
 "Interestingly, the first time I heard Chopra speak within the movement he was 
much more sceptical about such things as what Ayurveda could accomplish"
 

 You are kidding!!! When and where was this? This is the first time I have ever 
heard of that!
 

 

 


 From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 11:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...
 
 
   What I liked about the movie Bad Teacher, is while the character played by 
Diaz has to adjust to a new situation in her life that resulted from her 
'badness', it is not a Cinderella, Disney kind of story where everything like 
her personality turns to gold. It has a more realistic arc that does not 
magically undo her 'morally bankrupt' characteristics. She adapts to the extent 
she has to and finds a modicum of satisfaction well below her original goals.
 

 I did see Chopra a few times within the movement. The last time I saw him he 
was coming out of the Twenty-First Century Bookstore in Fairfield, IA (the 
local Ru Woo bookstore which no longer exists I hear). Interestingly, the first 
time I heard Chopra speak within the movement he was much more sceptical about 
such things as what Ayurveda could accomplish, but I think once he got the idea 
he could make money selling nostrums, that scepticism was quietly put away. 
Those well inculcated by TM philosophy always seemed to feel that something was 
not quite right with him, that he was out for himself, which probably was true, 
as he did not turn out to be the tool Maharishi wanted for promoting the 
movement, which is of course someone who only promotes Maharishi's goals, 
financial and otherwise.
 

 The Chopra-Mlodinow book was one of the results after the following exchange 
occurred at the end of a panel debate (the future of God) at CalTech. This was 
the first time they encountered each other, and Mlodinow was in the audience. 
Physicist Leonard Mlodinow vs. Deepak Chopra.WMV https://youtu.be/Z17sIJyQ3oY 
 
 https://youtu.be/Z17sIJyQ3oY
 
 Physicist Leonard Mlodinow vs. Deepak Chopra.WMV https://youtu.be/Z17sIJyQ3oY 
TrueSquimished


 
 View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/Z17sIJyQ3oY
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great response. For the record, if I ever mention Deepak Chopra here, know 
that it is on the basis of the few -- VERY few -- net articles of his I have 
glanced at over the years. Color me not impressed. The analogy of "sponge mind" 
may be aiming too far up the evolu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of "Going Clear"

2015-04-03 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

So, it's all about the people, not about the ideas. 

Anyone is a "scientologist" that believes in science as their religion. So, 
it's ironic that this movie review was posted by Barry, the "spiritual" 
science-writer. Go figure.

The interesting thing about "Going Clear" is that not one of the individuals 
said they changed their mind about believing in "souls" that reincarnate and a 
"soul" that is the individual expression of a non-material, cosmic life "force" 
(Thetans).

It's a fact that some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to 
- auditing -  talking things over with a counselor. That's why I can't 
understand why Barry never visited a cult-exit counselor. It just doesn't make 
any sense - I mean, if you can't even admit that you're a cultist, then you 
can't even start the 12-step program to recovery and going clear. 

Of course, anyone can talk to themselves - solo-auditing - but it's just not he 
same as a person-to-person talk with a therapist. Posting to newsgroups has the 
same effect - some people feel better when they have someone to talk to, even 
if it's talking to an alias on the internet. LoL!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 So here's my 2 bits worth.  I think "Going Clear" did a good job with a 
complex subject in a limited amount  of time.  It probably would have done 
better as a series or mini-series because there is just so much great stuff to 
talk about.  Lisa McPherson, Ron DeWolfe, Grady Ward, etc.
 
 My limited involvement with SCN began in 1975 about the same time I started 
TM.  I was in my last year of college and generally stressed out and unhappy at 
that time.  I saw the Merv special and took up TM in October and got some 
relief in life.  In December, a cousin of mine who had been in the CoS for 
about 7 years (I'm guessing) came to Christmas and gave as a present a 
paperback copy of Dianetics:TMOMH.
 I knew next to nothing about a Dianetics and just the tiniest bit about SCN.  
 
 After having read it, I thought I should look into this.  But, I was wondering 
how has this been kept so quiet for 26 years if it really lives up to its 
claims. 
 
 I went to the downtown CoS in San Francisco and spoke with a very aggressive 
and attractive blonde who explained the basics of you need to get on The Bridge 
and learn auditing and the whole sales pitch.
 She also explained how ridiculously expensive it was (so I thought).  Anyway, 
I did their Communications Course, which I found interesting, but having 
completed that I moved on.  I saw serious dysfunction in a place supposedly 
full of advance people and I saw opportunism taking place against the naive who 
were desperately looking for solutions.
 Anyway, finished college, stuck with TM and moved on with my life.  Over the 
years I read most of what Hubbard publicly published about SCN and Dianetics 
and some of his fiction.  Found him absolutely fascinating and bat-shit crazy.  
He tapped into that perfect blend of wisdom and affability while disguising his 
avarice and his paranoia.
  
 While I continue to do TM and later on the Siddhis, I never wanted to be part 
of the TM movement itself.  I felt that despite its many benefits, I am not a 
follower or worshipper, and I'm too self-centered to want to save the world and 
forgo my own needs and desires.  Most die-hard teachers and followers I found 
just too annoying, vapid, one-sided.  I was and am thankful for their 
dedication and keeping centers open (when they can), but I had other interest, 
many of which are far from Sattvic.
  
 One of the great things about getting on the Internet back in the early 90's 
was the use of Netcom and its built-in IRC applet.  I was able to participate 
and lurk with the #scientology group during the early outing of the CoS 
misdeeds and misbehavior.  It was interesting to see them aggressively try to 
"handle the Internet".
 My favorite resource online of all things anti-CoS and anti-LRH has been 
Xenu.net.  It is an incredible collection of stuff.  Their links to xenu tv are 
precious and xenu tv has some documentaries that are far more informative than 
what HBO attempted.  Their especially good since they are produced with 
1/10,000 the budget of the cable company.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Finding "Going Clear"

2015-04-03 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Thanks for the link. 

 I must say that this is probably the most damning documentary I have ever seen.
 

 Kudos to the production team for coming up with such a compelling lineup of 
interviewees.
 

 The clip shown early on featuring Marjorie Cameron (O.T.O. leader Jack 
Parsons' mistress) is from Kenneth Anger's Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome.
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2bwU5V4B5o 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2bwU5V4B5o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...

2015-04-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]

Actually, Chopra's first book was NOT _Return of the Rishi_ but but _Creating 
Health_, written before he had fully integrated with the TM organization. 

 

 Certainly, _Return of the Rishi_ mentioned TM, because it was about the 
journey of a young doctor discovering the revival of Vedic India in the form of 
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's various projects.
 

 IN fact, _Return of the Rishi_ is the only one of Chopra's books to still have 
a dedication to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. 
 

 It is also the only one of his books he doesn't sell through his website, last 
I checked, though he does sell a selected readings audio version.
 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 According to what I've read, Chopra never said that "TM" was "the solution to 
all problems." In fact, Chopra doesn't even mention TM in his first book, 
"Return of the Rishi". It's just too bad Judy isn't here anymore to correct all 
these claims. We will ask Chopra about this when he gets to town. Go figure.

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This was in Washington D.C. Think it was about 1985, I do not recall exactly. 
His comments were specifically related to the claim that Ayurveda could cure 
diabetes. As you recall, there was a time that TM was supposed to cure 
everything, the solution to all problems. 

Non sequitur. Nobody ever claimed that TM could cure diabetes.

At time went on, Chopra the MD became more and more Chopra the Woo Doctor. 

Non sequitur.

He also had a wife who did not want to live within the movement's restrictions 
as far as income etc., and Chopra was concerned about this, he had had after 
all a good position at a hospital.

Non sequitur.

Apparently he got some financial concessions from Maharishi, but eventually 
Chopra wanted to go his own way more independently and Maharishi could not get 
his cut of the action, which as you know would ideally be all of it. My guess 
is Chopra was fairly rational until the movement got its claws into him, and 
like Hagelin, fell into a more irrational frame of mind. The movement seems to 
lack someone who could put the ideas about reality and consciousness into some 
kind of rational perspective that is also actually in tune with scientific 
principles rather than in tune with a parody of scientific principles.

Non sequitur. Of course, Chopra, who is an M.D., couldn't begin to compare to 
all your scientific credentials. LoL!


 From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 3:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...
 
 
   
 "Interestingly, the first time I heard Chopra speak within the movement he was 
much more sceptical about such things as what Ayurveda could accomplish"
 

 You are kidding!!! When and where was this? This is the first time I have ever 
heard of that!
 

 

 


 From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 11:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reaches the Orient...
 
 
   What I liked about the movie Bad Teacher, is while the character played by 
Diaz has to adjust to a new situation in her life that resulted from her 
'badness', it is not a Cinderella, Disney kind of story where everything like 
her personality turns to gold. It has a more realistic arc that does not 
magically undo her 'morally bankrupt' characteristics. She adapts to the extent 
she has to and finds a modicum of satisfaction well below her original goals.
 

 I did see Chopra a few times within the movement. The last time I saw him he 
was coming out of the Twenty-First Century Bookstore in Fairfield, IA (the 
local Ru Woo bookstore which no longer exists I hear). Interestingly, the first 
time I heard Chopra speak within the movement he was much more sceptical about 
such things as what Ayurveda could accomplish, but I think once he got the idea 
he could make money selling nostrums, that scepticism was quietly put away. 
Those well inculcated by TM philosophy always seemed to feel that something was 
not quite right with him, that he was out for himself, which probably was true, 
as he did not turn out to be the tool Maharishi wanted for promoting the 
movement, which is of course someone who only promotes Maharishi's goals, 
financial and otherwise.
 

 The Chopra-Mlodinow book was one of the results after the following exchange 
occurred at the end of a panel debate (the future of God) at CalTech. This was 
the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Finding "Going Clear"

2015-04-03 Thread salyavin808


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thanks for the link. 

 I must say that this is probably the most damning documentary I have ever seen.
 

 And it's just a shame there wasn't enough time for one of the saddest and most 
damning tales from the world of "Clears".
 

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 Kudos to the production team for coming up with such a compelling lineup of 
interviewees.
 

 The clip shown early on featuring Marjorie Cameron (O.T.O. leader Jack 
Parsons' mistress) is from Kenneth Anger's Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome.
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2bwU5V4B5o 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2bwU5V4B5o

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