[FairfieldLife] Re: We Were at this Place Today

[j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I had no idea that anything physically existed above Central Park.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We were at this place today.
 

 Visit The Cloisters | The Metropolitan Museum of Art 
http://www.metmuseum.org/visit/visit-the-cloisters
 
 
 Visit The Cloisters | The Metropolitan Museum of Art 
http://www.metmuseum.org/visit/visit-the-cloisters The Cloisters museum and 
gardens is the branch of The Metropolitan Museum of Art in northern Manhattan 
devoted to the art and architecture of medieval Europe.


 
 View on www.metmuseum.org http://www.metmuseum.org/visit/visit-the-cloisters
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 Was gonna invite xeno to meet us for lunch one day up here in NYC, but guess 
that ain't gonna happen.
 

 Got some funny directions leaving the museum trying to find the subway,and we 
ended up walking two miles along the freeway, looking down at the Hudson River, 
before we finally found it.
 

 Ain't a lot of green in NYC, but we had a nice stroll through Central Park.
 

 Tired as hell, but we're gonna have some dindin, and check out Times Square.
 

 Good Times!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM

[curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re "Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in a 
role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by 
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.":

Me: 
Many Homeless people accept help to live inside when they reach the age where 
it is too hard to continue to camp on public land which is what Guru Dev was 
doing when they asked him. I never heard about any trickery. He accepted once, 
then reneged and ran away for a while. Then they convinced him to come live 
inside. Quite a posh homeless shelter.

It was probably hard for an old guy to make such a big change. But the 3 hots 
and a cot lifestyle has its appeal for a man of a certain age. Even if it comes 
with people waving camphor and incense in your face occasionally. 

Reading his words about religion reminds me of other fundamentalist religious 
people who like to think and talk about God all the time. I gotta figure it was 
because of a lack of commitment to mastering the guitar.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Re "Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in a 
role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by 
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.":
 

 Didn't MMY say that Guru Dev was tricked into accepting the position? Or am I 
imagining that I heard that story? If so, I must be going senile.
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 that is a damn good question - I appreciate you posting this. I am gonna get 
this book and see what it does have to say, esp. now with this in mind.

 

 From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:02 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
 
 
   Anyone read this stuff?
 
 These types of biographies contain lots of valuable information. However, all 
of them tend to be hagiographies written by Western psychophantic householders. 
Consequently none of them reflect the ACTUAL view of sannyasa held by someone 
like swami Brahmananda Saraswati. He was not just a sannyasin, but rather a 
Danda-Sannyasin, which is a specific category of stict renunciation. 
Danda-Sannyasins have no concern with the world at all. Rather, they take care 
of simple bodily needs and use their remaining life moments to engage in 
nididhyasana (contemplation). This means examination of the apparent difference 
between the Awareness-Self and experience itself. Between Self and Other. 
Between Brahman and appearances.
 
 It also means contemplating the Upanishad declarations that Brahman is reality 
itself (satyam), Awareness itself (jnanam), limitlessness itself (anantam) and 
that this apparent world is that very Brahman itself. 
 
 Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in a 
role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by 
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.
 
 PS: Don't bother replying with "He loved us so much he wanted to save us from 
ourselves" christian theologizing B.S. Also leave off the "He was a great 
bodhisattva" Buddhist B.S. These types of answers will only demonstrate lack of 
understanding the question.


 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: We Were at this Place Today

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

well, actually you go back in time.
 

 017 | The Metropolitan Museum of Art 
http://www.metmuseum.org/visit/museum-map/galleries/cloisters/017

 
 
 017 | The Metropolitan Museum of Art 
http://www.metmuseum.org/visit/museum-map/galleries/cloisters/017 Unicorn 
Tapestries
 
 
 
 View on www.metmuseum.org 
http://www.metmuseum.org/visit/museum-map/galleries/cloisters/017 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I had no idea that anything physically existed above Central Park.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We were at this place today.
 

 Visit The Cloisters | The Metropolitan Museum of Art 
http://www.metmuseum.org/visit/visit-the-cloisters
 
 
 Visit The Cloisters | The Metropolitan Museum of Art 
http://www.metmuseum.org/visit/visit-the-cloisters The Cloisters museum and 
gardens is the branch of The Metropolitan Museum of Art in northern Manhattan 
devoted to the art and architecture of medieval Europe.


 
 View on www.metmuseum.org http://www.metmuseum.org/visit/visit-the-cloisters
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 Was gonna invite xeno to meet us for lunch one day up here in NYC, but guess 
that ain't gonna happen.
 

 Got some funny directions leaving the museum trying to find the subway,and we 
ended up walking two miles along the freeway, looking down at the Hudson River, 
before we finally found it.
 

 Ain't a lot of green in NYC, but we had a nice stroll through Central Park.
 

 Tired as hell, but we're gonna have some dindin, and check out Times Square.
 

 Good Times!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

As long as he had a dry cave to sleep in, why would he worry about his housing, 
given the fact that he had that bag was it, the one that GD could reach into 
and pull out any food or other items he wanted? Reckon what happened to that 
bag, I doubt Marshy had it, otherwise he wouldn't have needed to defraud people 
to get money.

  From: "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 10:11 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
   
    Re "Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in 
a role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by 
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.":

Me: 
Many Homeless people accept help to live inside when they reach the age where 
it is too hard to continue to camp on public land which is what Guru Dev was 
doing when they asked him. I never heard about any trickery. He accepted once, 
then reneged and ran away for a while. Then they convinced him to come live 
inside. Quite a posh homeless shelter.

It was probably hard for an old guy to make such a big change. But the 3 hots 
and a cot lifestyle has its appeal for a man of a certain age. Even if it comes 
with people waving camphor and incense in your face occasionally. 

Reading his words about religion reminds me of other fundamentalist religious 
people who like to think and talk about God all the time. I gotta figure it was 
because of a lack of commitment to mastering the guitar.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Re "Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in a 
role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by 
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.":

Didn't MMY say that Guru Dev was tricked into accepting the position? Or am I 
imagining that I heard that story? If so, I must be going senile.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

that is a damn good question - I appreciate you posting this. I am gonna get 
this book and see what it does have to say, esp. now with this in mind.

  From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:02 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
 
 Anyone read this stuff?

These types of biographies contain lots of valuable information. However, all 
of them tend to be hagiographies written by Western psychophantic householders. 
Consequently none of them reflect the ACTUAL view of sannyasa held by someone 
like swami Brahmananda Saraswati. He was not just a sannyasin, but rather a 
Danda-Sannyasin, which is a specific category of stict renunciation. 
Danda-Sannyasins have no concern with the world at all. Rather, they take care 
of simple bodily needs and use their remaining life moments to engage in 
nididhyasana (contemplation). This means examination of the apparent difference 
between the Awareness-Self and experience itself. Between Self and Other. 
Between Brahman and appearances.

It also means contemplating the Upanishad declarations that Brahman is reality 
itself (satyam), Awareness itself (jnanam), limitlessness itself (anantam) and 
that this apparent world is that very Brahman itself. 

Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in a 
role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by 
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.

PS: Don't bother replying with "He loved us so much he wanted to save us from 
ourselves" christian theologizing B.S. Also leave off the "He was a great 
bodhisattva" Buddhist B.S. These types of answers will only demonstrate lack of 
understanding the question.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM

[curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 As long as he had a dry cave to sleep in, why would he worry about his 
housing, 

Me: Throw pillows. If you look at the pictures it is all about the color 
coordinated throw pillows.

M: given the fact that he had that bag was it, the one that GD could reach into 
and pull out any food or other items he wanted? 

Me: Tee hee. Swami Rama said that when he met him he was living on chick pea 
sprouts and salt. 

M:
Reckon what happened to that bag,

Me: It ended up in Never Never Land with Peter Pan

M: I doubt Marshy had it, otherwise he wouldn't have needed to defraud people 
to get money.

Me: It is interesting that Maharishi was able to sell us on the idea of a 
technique bringing us to a state of mind that he himself did not credit with 
producing his own special state of mind. That is why I could relate best to 
full time people when I was in the movement. We were imaging (accompanied by 
Maharishi's pitch) that we were living as closely to what he had done as we 
could. I believed in the techniques, but not as much as I believed in his more 
subtle message of how he had gained his state of mind through serving the 
master.

I almost asked him to clarify this relationship in India but in retrospect am 
glad I had not. This was supposed to be an implied teaching, and me asking him 
to be more explicit in a large group with mixed commitments would have brought 
down some "corrections to my thinking."  

 

 From: "curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 10:11 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
 
 
   Re "Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in 
a role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by 
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.":

Me: 
Many Homeless people accept help to live inside when they reach the age where 
it is too hard to continue to camp on public land which is what Guru Dev was 
doing when they asked him. I never heard about any trickery. He accepted once, 
then reneged and ran away for a while. Then they convinced him to come live 
inside. Quite a posh homeless shelter.

It was probably hard for an old guy to make such a big change. But the 3 hots 
and a cot lifestyle has its appeal for a man of a certain age. Even if it comes 
with people waving camphor and incense in your face occasionally. 

Reading his words about religion reminds me of other fundamentalist religious 
people who like to think and talk about God all the time. I gotta figure it was 
because of a lack of commitment to mastering the guitar.

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Re "Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in a 
role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by 
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.":
 

 Didn't MMY say that Guru Dev was tricked into accepting the position? Or am I 
imagining that I heard that story? If so, I must be going senile.
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 that is a damn good question - I appreciate you posting this. I am gonna get 
this book and see what it does have to say, esp. now with this in mind.

 

 From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:02 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
 
 
   Anyone read this stuff?
 
 These types of biographies contain lots of valuable information. However, all 
of them tend to be hagiographies written by Western psychophantic householders. 
Consequently none of them reflect the ACTUAL view of sannyasa held by someone 
like swami Brahmananda Saraswati. He was not just a sannyasin, but rather a 
Danda-Sannyasin, which is a specific category of stict renunciation. 
Danda-Sannyasins have no concern with the world at all. Rather, they take care 
of simple bodily needs and use their remaining life moments to engage in 
nididhyasana (contemplation). This means examination of the apparent difference 
between the Awareness-Self and experience itself. Between Self and Other. 
Between Brahman and appearances.
 
 It also means contemplating the Upanishad declarations that Brahman is reality 
itself (satyam), Awareness itself (jnanam), limitlessness itself (anantam) and 
that this apparent world is that very Brahman itself. 
 
 Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in a 
role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by 
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.
 
 PS: Don't bother replying with "He loved us so much he wanted to save us from 
ourselves" christian theologizing B.S. Also leave off the "He was a great 
bodhisattva" Buddhist B.S. These types of answers will only demonstrate lack of 
understanding the question.


 
















 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: We Were at this Place Today

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Does New York look like an armed encampment.  A bunch of self-important 
dorks in uniform with machine guns?


On 07/04/2015 07:15 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


well, actually you go back in time.


017 | The Metropolitan Museum of Art 






017 | The Metropolitan Museum of Art 


Unicorn Tapestries

View on www.metmuseum.org 



Preview by Yahoo



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I had no idea that anything physically existed above Central Park.


---In Fai! rfieldl...@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We were at this place today.


Visit The Cloisters | The Metropolitan Museum of Art 






Visit The Cloisters | The Metropolitan Museum of Art 

The Cloisters museum and gardens is the branch of The Metropolitan 
Museum of Art in northern Manhattan devoted to the art and 
architecture of medieval Europe.


View on www.metmuseum.org 



Preview by Yahoo

Was gonna invite xeno to meet us for lunch one day up here in NYC, but 
guess that ain't gonna happen.



Got some funny directions leaving the museum trying to find the 
subway,and we ended up walking two miles along the freeway, looking 
dow! n at the Hudson River, before we finally found it.



Ain't a lot of green in NYC, but we had a nice stroll through Central 
Park.



Tired as hell, but we're gonna have some dindin, and check out Times 
Square.



Good Times!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Indians don't eat "three squares" a day.  They eat more like Europeans 
with one big lunch and two smaller meals.  Some of the yogis only eat 
once a day or it interferes with their sadhana.  After all these 
techniques slow ... you ... down.


Americans need to adopt that too but it would be heresy to our 
industrial agricultural complex.  Remember America is all about money.  
That's what we worship.


Also yogis don't like added responsibilities.  Probably many of them 
would flee the area if a institution wanted them as their leader.  
Again, it interferes with sadhana.


On 07/04/2015 09:44 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

As long as he had a dry cave to sleep in, why would he worry about his 
housing,


Me: Throw pillows. If you look at the pictures it is all about the 
color coordinated throw pillows.


M: given the fact that he had that bag was it, the one that GD could 
reach into and pull out any food or other items he wanted?


Me: Tee hee. Swami Rama said that when he met him he was living on 
chick pea sprouts and salt.


M:
Reckon what happened to that bag,

Me: It ended up in Never Never Land with Peter Pan

M: I doubt Marshy had it, otherwise he wouldn't have needed to defraud 
people to get money.


Me: It is interesting that Maharishi was able to sell us on the idea 
of a technique bringing us to a state of mind that he himself did not 
credit with producing his own special state of mind. That is why I 
could relate best to full time people when I was in the movement. We 
were imaging (accompanied by Maharishi's pitch) that we were living as 
closely to what he had done as we could. I believed in the techniques, 
but not as much as I believed in his more subtle message of how he had 
gained his state of mind through serving the master.


I almost asked him to clarify this relationship in India but in 
retrospect am glad I had not. This was supposed to be an implied 
teaching, and me asking him to be more explicit in a large group with 
mixed commitments would have brought down some "corrections to my 
thinking."




*From:* "curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, July 4, 2015 10:11 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM

Re "Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to 
engage in a role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is 
never addressed by the biographies but is glossed over with pious 
platitudes.":


Me:
Many Homeless people accept help to live inside when they reach the 
age where it is too hard to continue to camp on public land which is 
what Guru Dev was doing when they asked him. I never heard about any 
trickery. He accepted once, then reneged and ran away for a while. 
Then they convinced him to come live inside. Quite a posh homeless 
shelter.


It was probably hard for an old guy to make such a big change. But the 
3 hots and a cot lifestyle has its appeal for a man of a certain age. 
Even if it comes with people waving camphor and incense in your face 
occasionally.


Reading his words about religion reminds me of other fundamentalist 
religious people who like to think and talk about God all the time. I 
gotta figure it was because of a lack of commitment to mastering the 
guitar.





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Re "Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to 
engage in a role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is 
never addressed by the biographies but is glossed over with pious 
platitudes.":


Didn't MMY say that Guru Dev was tricked into accepting the position? 
Or am I imagining that I heard that story?! If so, I must be going senile.





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

that is a damn good question - I appreciate you posting this. I am 
gonna get this book and see what it does have to say, esp. now with 
this in mind.



*From:* "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, July 3, 2015 12:02 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM

Anyone read this stuff?

These types of biographies contain lots of valuable information. 
However, all of them tend to be hagiographies written by Western 
psychophantic householders. Consequently none of them reflect the 
ACTUAL view of sannyasa held by someone like swami Brahmananda 
Saraswati. He was not just a sannyasin, but rather a Danda-Sannyasin, 
which is a specific category of stict renunciation. Danda-Sannyasins 
have no concern with the world at all. Rather, they take care of 
simple bodily needs and use their remaining life moments to engage in 
nididhyasana (contemplation). This means examination of the apparent 
difference between the Awareness-Self and experience itself. Between 
Self and Other. Between Br

[FairfieldLife] TM poster boy seeks sponsorship for one-man coherence creating course in Syria.

[salyavin808]

 Russell Brand says he'll move to Syria 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3149281/Russell-Brand-says-ll-Syria.html

 
 
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3149281/Russell-Brand-says-ll-Syria.html
 
 
 Russell Brand says he'll move to Syria 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3149281/Russell-Brand-says-ll-Syria.html
 Russell Brand, 40, made the comment in a string of sick jokes about the 
Tunisian beach massacre - hours after denouncing yesterday's minute's silence 
as ...
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Happy "Mayberry 4th!"

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

I'm sure that Fairfield is celebrating it's annual "Mayberry" style 4th 
of July just as this town is.  Usually Saturdays I head down to the 
waterfront park for a walk but they've got all kinds of foo-foo going on 
and I wouldn't have even been able to get to the park let along park 
there.   It began with a pancake breakfast then a parade at 10 through 
the downtown.  So no Starbucks for me today.

I was musing to a friend about why it's celebrated this way.  The town 
demographic is thirty something with kids but the organizers of events 
are old farts.  I imagine if the millennials organized the celebration 
would be a rock concert with $1 admission and nude body painting with 
selfies gallery. :-D

On a side note there is a new espresso bar opening around the corner 
from Starbucks this week. Hopefully prices will be good and they use a 
good roast.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: We Were at this Place Today [1 Attachment]

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The one time I was at the Cloisters, my camera died. I was photographing a 
wooden statue of Jesus, and the camera's life came to an end, unrepairable. 
What can you expect from a Jesus dummy. As the ticket also included the Met 
museum as well, I went there next. I took an image of an Egyptian statue, some 
tomb builder or something who lived several thousand years ago.
  From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 2:15 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We Were at this Place Today
   
    well, actually you go back in time.
017 | The Metropolitan Museum of Art
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I had no idea that anything physically existed above Central Park.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We were at this place today.
Visit The Cloisters | The Metropolitan Museum of Art
|  |
|  | Visit The Cloisters | The Metropolitan Museum of Art The Cloisters 
museum and gardens is the branch of The Metropolitan Museum of Art in northern 
Manhattan devoted to the art and architecture of medieval Europe. |  |
| View on www.metmuseum.org|   Preview by Yahoo  |
|  |

  Was gonna invite xeno to meet us for lunch one day up here in NYC, but guess 
that ain't gonna happen.
Got some funny directions leaving the museum trying to find the subway,and we 
ended up walking two miles along the freeway, looking down at the Hudson River, 
before we finally found it.
Ain't a lot of green in NYC, but we had a nice stroll through Central Park.
Tired as hell, but we're gonna have some dindin, and check out Times Square.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] TM poster boy seeks sponsorship for one-man coherence creating course in Syria.

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Would somebody at least buy him the right kind of beads.

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 1:28 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM poster boy seeks sponsorship for one-man coherence 
creating course in Syria.
   
    
Russell Brand says he'll move to Syria
 
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[FairfieldLife] PROVIDER OF KNOWLEDGE

[anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Having located the source of our knowledge from India it turns out to be 
DIKSHIT
 

 Dikshit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dikshit

 
 
 Dikshit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dikshit Dikshit or Dikshitar (/ˈdɪkʃɪt/) (Hindi: 
दीक्षित) is a Hindu family name. The word is an adjective form of the Sanskrit 
word diksha, meaning provider of knowledge. Dikshit in Sanskrit derives itself 
as a person involved in scientific studies, and literally translates as "one ...
 
 
 
 View on en.wikipedia.org https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dikshit 
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 This simple discovery solves a lot of problems with regard to technical and 
intellectual difficulties anyone has encountered in the TM movement.

Re: [FairfieldLife] PROVIDER OF KNOWLEDGE

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yeah, but one can only get dikshit from a certified dipshit

  From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 2:36 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] PROVIDER OF KNOWLEDGE
   
    Having located the source of our knowledge from India it turns out to 
be DIKSHIT
Dikshit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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(/ˈdɪkʃɪt/) (Hindi: दीक्षित) is a Hindu family name. The word is an adjective 
form of the Sanskrit word diksha, meaning provider of knowledge. Dikshit in 
Sanskrit derives itself as a person involved in scientific studies, and 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re "I never heard about any trickery. He accepted once, then reneged and ran 
away for a while. Then they convinced him to come live inside.": 

 That could be the source of my confusion. 
 

 Plato's philosopher-guardians in The Republic had to be coaxed into taking on 
the role of leading the society - they would have preferred to spend their 
lives in contemplation and studying geometry - but duty called. 
 Guru Dev's reluctance to take up the position of Shankaracharya strikes me as 
coming from the same mind set.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Re "Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in a 
role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by 
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.":

Me: 
Many Homeless people accept help to live inside when they reach the age where 
it is too hard to continue to camp on public land which is what Guru Dev was 
doing when they asked him. I never heard about any trickery. He accepted once, 
then reneged and ran away for a while. Then they convinced him to come live 
inside. Quite a posh homeless shelter.

It was probably hard for an old guy to make such a big change. But the 3 hots 
and a cot lifestyle has its appeal for a man of a certain age. Even if it comes 
with people waving camphor and incense in your face occasionally. 

Reading his words about religion reminds me of other fundamentalist religious 
people who like to think and talk about God all the time. I gotta figure it was 
because of a lack of commitment to mastering the guitar.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Re "Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in a 
role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by 
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.":
 

 Didn't MMY say that Guru Dev was tricked into accepting the position? Or am I 
imagining that I heard that story? If so, I must be going senile.
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 that is a damn good question - I appreciate you posting this. I am gonna get 
this book and see what it does have to say, esp. now with this in mind.

 

 From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:02 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
 
 
   Anyone read this stuff?
 
 These types of biographies contain lots of valuable information. However, all 
of them tend to be hagiographies written by Western psychophantic householders. 
Consequently none of them reflect the ACTUAL view of sannyasa held by someone 
like swami Brahmananda Saraswati. He was not just a sannyasin, but rather a 
Danda-Sannyasin, which is a specific category of stict renunciation. 
Danda-Sannyasins have no concern with the world at all. Rather, they take care 
of simple bodily needs and use their remaining life moments to engage in 
nididhyasana (contemplation). This means examination of the apparent difference 
between the Awareness-Self and experience itself. Between Self and Other. 
Between Brahman and appearances.
 
 It also means contemplating the Upanishad declarations that Brahman is reality 
itself (satyam), Awareness itself (jnanam), limitlessness itself (anantam) and 
that this apparent world is that very Brahman itself. 
 
 Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in a 
role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by 
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.
 
 PS: Don't bother replying with "He loved us so much he wanted to save us from 
ourselves" christian theologizing B.S. Also leave off the "He was a great 
bodhisattva" Buddhist B.S. These types of answers will only demonstrate lack of 
understanding the question.


 


 














  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re "Guru Dev was tricked into accepting the position": 

 I was right! From The TM Technique by Peter Russell (1976), page 23:
 

 Every twelve years in India there is a large gathering of "saints" and holy 
men at Allahabad where two of the holy rivers, the Ganges and the Yamuna, meet. 
This festival is called the Kumbla [sic] Mela and it is customary for many of 
the recluses to come down from the mountains for this occasion. Along with 
thousands of others Guru Dev had left his cave to attend. Making the best of 
the opportunity his proponents performed the inauguration ceremony and having 
been officially invested as Shankaracharya for North India Guru Dev had little 
choice but to accept the honour.
 

 I'm sure I've come across that account in other books and articles.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Re "Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in a 
role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by 
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.":
 

 Didn't MMY say that Guru Dev was tricked into accepting the position? Or am I 
imagining that I heard that story? If so, I must be going senile.
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 that is a damn good question - I appreciate you posting this. I am gonna get 
this book and see what it does have to say, esp. now with this in mind.

 

 From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:02 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
 
 
   Anyone read this stuff?
 
 These types of biographies contain lots of valuable information. However, all 
of them tend to be hagiographies written by Western psychophantic householders. 
Consequently none of them reflect the ACTUAL view of sannyasa held by someone 
like swami Brahmananda Saraswati. He was not just a sannyasin, but rather a 
Danda-Sannyasin, which is a specific category of stict renunciation. 
Danda-Sannyasins have no concern with the world at all. Rather, they take care 
of simple bodily needs and use their remaining life moments to engage in 
nididhyasana (contemplation). This means examination of the apparent difference 
between the Awareness-Self and experience itself. Between Self and Other. 
Between Brahman and appearances.
 
 It also means contemplating the Upanishad declarations that Brahman is reality 
itself (satyam), Awareness itself (jnanam), limitlessness itself (anantam) and 
that this apparent world is that very Brahman itself. 
 
 Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in a 
role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by 
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.
 
 PS: Don't bother replying with "He loved us so much he wanted to save us from 
ourselves" christian theologizing B.S. Also leave off the "He was a great 
bodhisattva" Buddhist B.S. These types of answers will only demonstrate lack of 
understanding the question.


 


 












 
  

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM

[curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Me: It may have been after this that he disappeared for a while before finally 
accepting the position. 

The way Maharishi tells this story is that when they did all the pujas for him 
to be Shankaracharia, he said "Are you done, now go." From his perspective it 
wasn't that he was tricked into it which makes him seem weak, but that the 
supporters were more enthusiastic about the whole thing than he was.

I would have to dig up my notes to see how he claims it went down in more 
detail but it may be moot now that Paul Mason has done so much research. Funny 
how the nuances of this period are still fascinating to me after all these 
years. 



 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Re "Guru Dev was tricked into accepting the position": 

 I was right! From The TM Technique by Peter Russell (1976), page 23:
 

 Every twelve years in India there is a large gathering of "saints" and holy 
men at Allahabad where two of the holy rivers, the Ganges and the Yamuna, meet. 
This festival is called the Kumbla [sic] Mela and it is customary for many of 
the recluses to come down from the mountains for this occasion. Along with 
thousands of others Guru Dev had left his cave to attend. Making the best of 
the opportunity his proponents performed the inauguration ceremony and having 
been officially invested as Shankaracharya for North India Guru Dev had little 
choice but to accept the honour.
 

 I'm sure I've come across that account in other books and articles.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Re "Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in a 
role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by 
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.":
 

 Didn't MMY say that Guru Dev was tricked into accepting the position? Or am I 
imagining that I heard that story? If so, I must be going senile.
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 that is a damn good question - I appreciate you posting this. I am gonna get 
this book and see what it does have to say, esp. now with this in mind.

 

 From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:02 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
 
 
   Anyone read this stuff?
 
 These types of biographies contain lots of valuable information. However, all 
of them tend to be hagiographies written by Western psychophantic householders. 
Consequently none of them reflect the ACTUAL view of sannyasa held by someone 
like swami Brahmananda Saraswati. He was not just a sannyasin, but rather a 
Danda-Sannyasin, which is a specific category of stict renunciation. 
Danda-Sannyasins have no concern with the world at all. Rather, they take care 
of simple bodily needs and use their remaining life moments to engage in 
nididhyasana (contemplation). This means examination of the apparent difference 
between the Awareness-Self and experience itself. Between Self and Other. 
Between Brahman and appearances.
 
 It also means contemplating the Upanishad declarations that Brahman is reality 
itself (satyam), Awareness itself (jnanam), limitlessness itself (anantam) and 
that this apparent world is that very Brahman itself. 
 
 Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in a 
role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by 
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.
 
 PS: Don't bother replying with "He loved us so much he wanted to save us from 
ourselves" christian theologizing B.S. Also leave off the "He was a great 
bodhisattva" Buddhist B.S. These types of answers will only demonstrate lack of 
understanding the question.