[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?
Fuxero, My answer is simply that I was born into this tradition. At this point, I don't see why I should reject it. Also, Jesus was predicted by the prophets in the Old Testament to incarnate as the Messiah. The Jews assumed that the messiah would be a political leader. But he came instead to proclaim the kingdom of heaven as the spirit within all human beings. This is the reason why orthodox Jews would not and cannot accept him as the messiah. IMO, that's the same reason why Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thx for the excellent discussion, but I believe a point is lacking. Let's assume that Jesus has presented a body of knowledge and techniques pointing to the Unified Field (Ground of Being) and It's Realization. Fine, but here's a question I posed to Bishop Spong (a deceased Christian Gnostic). I asked him that given that Buddhism and or what is collectively called "Hinduism" (Sanatana Dharma) have countless teachers in unbroken traditions geared toward Self Realization (Enlightenment, or whatever terms are used), and there doesn't seem to be much of an unbroken Gnostic Tradition in Christianity comprised of large numbers of Realized persons that we can point to (apart from luminaries such as St. John of the Cross); then..why the Jesus part? Spong's reply: simply because devotion to Jesus pleases him. Fine, but I don't see how any Jesus Program is superior to what's offered as derived from Buddhism and Hinduism. (notwithstanding the case of the Spiritual Giants in the Quaker Tradition.) So why Jesus?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?
MD, I agree with your point about the "living waters". IMO, entering the Kingdom means being reborn in the spirit or maintaining transcendental consciousness permanently in the waking, sleeping and dreaming consciousness-- which is cosmic consciousness, or reaching enlightenment. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of course not. It is baby food. You must be born again to enter the Kingdom. A new infant can only digest the simplest of foods. Yeshua also spoke of bubbling bliss as *living waters* flowing from within. He asked for a drink of water at a well from a Sumerian woman and then gave her his living waters so as never to thirst again. Shaktipat. From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 1:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field? Of course not However, I don't believe the mainline Christians today and in the past fully understand this concept, which can be practically and scientifically understood in the way MMY explained the unified field or Being.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good Article
Thanks for posting. The article that I read after this one, even more fascinating and extremely interesting and informative and entertaining, albeit quite long, was "The Obama Doctrine" by Jeffrey Goldberg, which gives the backdrop and his thinking behind his foreign policy approach and decisions. Boy, are we going to miss our President. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/can-clinton-reconstruct-trump-supporters-hope/476319/ http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/can-clinton-reconstruct-trump-supporters-hope/476319/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lynch endorses Sanders
Gawd... that was so embarrassing. I really had to put some distance between me
and the *movement* when that happened.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lynch endorses Sanders
Yeah, next thing you'll know they'll start a political party. Oh wait.
On 04/01/2016 06:59 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
LOL, I thought you were referring to Loretta Lynch. I would say that would
be a sure sign Hillary was going to be indicted!
But then maybe David is just intuitive. It's a big mistake for TMO and it's
affiliates to get involved in politics and take sides for anyone.
From: "sri...@ymail.com"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 8:53 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lynch endorses Sanders
David Lynch endorsed Sanders.. came out on twitter on the 30th so it
doesnt look like a joke. Sanders has said he wants Yoga and Meditation in
hospitals so it might be about that. Still kind of surprising from the head of
the biggest charity for TM to be publicly partisan.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Lynch endorses Sanders
Yeah, next thing you'll know they'll start a political party. Oh wait. On 04/01/2016 06:59 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: LOL, I thought you were referring to Loretta Lynch. I would say that would be a sure sign Hillary was going to be indicted! But then maybe David is just intuitive. It's a big mistake for TMO and it's affiliates to get involved in politics and take sides for anyone. *From:* "sri...@ymail.com" *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 1, 2016 8:53 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Lynch endorses Sanders David Lynch endorsed Sanders.. came out on twitter on the 30th so it doesnt look like a joke. Sanders has said he wants Yoga and Meditation in hospitals so it might be about that. Still kind of surprising from the head of the biggest charity for TM to be publicly partisan.
[FairfieldLife] Good Movie
I saw *Eye in the Sky* today. Excellent suspense movie about using drones to take out terrorists and the possible collateral damage. Might be somewhat self serving though. It deals with the moral and legal ramifications and the extent that the good guys go to avoid collateral casualties.The military has a job to do with rules of engagement and then the politicians have to be able to accept the responsibility for the consequences that follow.It's a real *nail biter*.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lynch endorses Sanders
LOL, I thought you were referring to Loretta Lynch. I would say that would be a
sure sign Hillary was going to be indicted!
But then maybe David is just intuitive.It's a big mistake for TMO and it's
affiliates to get involved in politics and take sides for anyone.
From: "sri...@ymail.com"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 8:53 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lynch endorses Sanders
David Lynch endorsed Sanders.. came out on twitter on the 30th so it doesnt
look like a joke. Sanders has said he wants Yoga and Meditation in hospitals so
it might be about that. Still kind of surprising from the head of the biggest
charity for TM to be publicly partisan.
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[FairfieldLife] Lynch endorses Sanders
David Lynch endorsed Sanders.. came out on twitter on the 30th so it doesnt look like a joke. Sanders has said he wants Yoga and Meditation in hospitals so it might be about that. Still kind of surprising from the head of the biggest charity for TM to be publicly partisan.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?
He *is* the program. Once you have surrendered your life to Him(reborn in His
name), He guides it to completion, birth after birth.
From: "yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 7:43 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?
Thx for the excellent discussion, but I believe a point is lacking. Let's
assume that Jesus has presented a body of knowledge and techniques pointing to
the Unified Field (Ground of Being) and It's Realization. Fine, but here's a
question I posed to Bishop Spong (a deceased Christian Gnostic). I asked him
that given that Buddhism and or what is collectively called "Hinduism"
(Sanatana Dharma) have countless teachers in unbroken traditions geared toward
Self Realization (Enlightenment, or whatever terms are used), and there doesn't
seem to be much of an unbroken Gnostic Tradition in Christianity comprised of
large numbers of Realized persons that we can point to (apart from luminaries
such as St. John of the Cross); then..why the Jesus part?Spong's reply:
simply because devotion to Jesus pleases him. Fine, but I don't see how any
Jesus Program is superior to what's offered as derived from Buddhism and
Hinduism. (notwithstanding the case of the Spiritual Giants in the Quaker
Tradition.)So why Jesus?
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[FairfieldLife] Supplements in bulk
PowderCity.com PureBulk.com Herbstoreusa.com Bulksupplements.com I've only had experience with the first, thus far. Super efficient, fast, and cheap while not sacrificing high quality. Received my L-Theanine (a rare amino acid found in green tea) in a few days, shipped from PA. A typical cup of store bought green tea has only about 10 mg of L-Theanine, while supplement caps come in 100 and 200 mg sizes. Also available - combined with caffeine. (where you get the both of both effects: the energy buzz from the caffeine and the restful (but not drowsy) effect of the L-Theanine. ... This makes me wonder what kind of effect dope addicts might have if they took heroin along with their cocaine. I'll pass on that and stick with the L-Theanine.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?
Thx for the excellent discussion, but I believe a point is lacking. Let's assume that Jesus has presented a body of knowledge and techniques pointing to the Unified Field (Ground of Being) and It's Realization. Fine, but here's a question I posed to Bishop Spong (a deceased Christian Gnostic). I asked him that given that Buddhism and or what is collectively called "Hinduism" (Sanatana Dharma) have countless teachers in unbroken traditions geared toward Self Realization (Enlightenment, or whatever terms are used), and there doesn't seem to be much of an unbroken Gnostic Tradition in Christianity comprised of large numbers of Realized persons that we can point to (apart from luminaries such as St. John of the Cross); then..why the Jesus part? Spong's reply: simply because devotion to Jesus pleases him. Fine, but I don't see how any Jesus Program is superior to what's offered as derived from Buddhism and Hinduism. (notwithstanding the case of the Spiritual Giants in the Quaker Tradition.) So why Jesus?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?
S3, I'm glad you understand what I was saying. I believe there are some priests in the Catholic Church who think the same way. But they're afraid to rock the boat and be labelled a heretic. It will take hundreds of years for the mainline Christian churches to accept it because they think it is a form or pantheism. and does not follow the original thinking and dogma of the Church Fathers. For example, it took the Catholic Church at least 500 years to admit that it was wrong in accusing Galileo of heresy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : That's my take also. Though I'd expect very few church-goers would understand what we're on about. Alan Watts wrote clearly defending this same interpretation. The more correct post header should be: Jesus Christ said "I am the Unified Field" - the "I" is all of us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes, it would appear so. There's a passage in the New Testament in which he broke the bread, during the Last Supper, and said, 'take this and eat for this is my body. Then, he raised the cup of wine and said, 'drink this for this is my blood'. He also said his body and blood are true food and he who eats and drinks them will never die. IOW, he is saying that Being or the unified field is true food and he who partakes in it will be become eternal. How can his body and blood be in the form of bread and wine? Because Being or the unified field is in everything in creation, including the bread and wine, and because it is simultaneously the basis of all creation. So, Jesus was saying He is in everyone and everything. In one stroke, Jesus explained a very complex concept to the apostles so that they can understand how the universe functions and that He is the source of it all. However, I don't believe the mainline Christians today and in the past fully understand this concept, which can be practically and scientifically understood in the way MMY explained the unified field or Being.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Finding New Leadership for Old TM
An effect on morbidity with Amrit Kalash on sedentary 300lbs administrators? Time will tell. Parkinson's and Amrit Kalash? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : No, they'd just die poorer. From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Finding New Leadership for Old TM Would the stats change if one takes Amrit Kalash? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Prime Minister of TM was born in 1955? Your odds of living 10 more years.. if you are 45 years of age is about 24 in 25. According to the USA Census your odds of making it ten more years if you are: 53 years of age is about 10 in 11. Your odds of living 10 years more from 60 years of age is about 5 in 6. Your odds of making it 10 more years if you are 68 are about 3 in 4. If you are 70 the odds are 2 in 3 that you will make it 10 more years. Age 75, 1 in 2 will last ten more years. Age 80, 1 in 3 you will last 10 years. At age 85, 3 in 20 will make it another 10 years. Age 88, 1 in 20 living at age 88 will make it another 10 years, ..cumulatively, most everyone else is gone before then. The die-off really starts to happen from about age 60. Very few actually make it to be older than age 85, most are gone on by then. https://sites.google.com/site/ffhamfampage/our-company/bransonanalyticsageexpectancy -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Currently, on average FF TM'ers would be.. of the Boomer II generation, ..about 65-70 years of age, on average. 1994, Survey of Fairfield Adult Meditators, Age: 25-35 65 10% 36-45 391 60% 46-55 138 21% > 55 47 7% ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Rates of Change. The calculus of aging in TM.. Some of what we can see in these mortality lists of TM'ers below is a natural aging-out of the Post-War Cohort, the people who were early with Maharishi in the very early SRM movement, the Walter Koch and Charlie Lutes generation of TM. Now what we are seeing in TM is an accelerating rate of attrition to aging-out of the Boomer I and Boomer II’s. Interestingly, the cusp time period where the Boomers I and Boomers II met was the time frame where TM took off in popular (college undergrad, grad student, professor-age) culture for a time. A lot of the TM movement intake happened in those years 1968-76, over the cusp of the Boomers I and II. The teaching of TM virtually disappeared during the 1980's, 1990's and first half of the 00's. Initiations have crept upward since y-2006. You can see this particular cusp of Boomers I and II in the general age span in the Dome meditation or at campus meetings of the TM community now. The WWII generation is pretty much gone from the ranks of TM now. The Post-War Cohort are pretty gone or geriatric now and the Boomers I are increasingly shuffling or gone on. Boomers II are increasingly ‘in diminish’. Time is short regardless. Post-War Cohort Born: 1928-1945 Coming of Age: 1946-1963 Age in 2004: 59 to 76 Current Population: 41 million (declining) Boomers I or The Baby Boomers Born: 1946-1954 Coming of Age: 1963-1972 Age in 2004: 50-58 Current Population: 33 million Boomers II or Generation Jones Born: 1955-1965 Coming of Age: 1973-1983 Age in 2004: 39 to 49 Current Population: 49 million For a long time the Baby Boomers were defined as those born between 1945 and 1964. That would make the generation huge (71 million) and encompass people who were 20 years apart in age. It didn't compute to have those born in 1964 compared with those born in 1946. http://www.socialmarketing.org/newsletter/features/generation2.htm http://www.socialmarketing.org/newsletter/features/generation2.htm [ For researching, Scroll further down thru the 'previous' posts to this thread to find other lists of deceased meditators, ] ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Robert Vaughn Abrams • April 13, 1949 • Seattle, WA • August 12, 1997 • North Carolina Roy Adams • February 16, 1949 • August, 1980 • California Jefferson Aikens • December, 2015 • Fairfield, Iowa Antoinette F. Alazraki • November 20, 1947 • July 25, 2013 Farrokh K. Anklesaria • May 29, 1946 • Mumbai, India • June 27, 2012 • St. Louis, MO Gwenn Anderson • September 20, 1944 • February 9, 2016 • Ogden, UT Jean Archer • August 13, 1924 • May 30, 1989 • Ottumwa, IA Margaret Rose Ardussi • June 1, 1941 • Toledo, OH • December 7, 2004 • Belcamp, MD • Estes Park TTC Margaret Ashelman • December 18, 1916 • November 28, 2015 • Fairfield, Iowa Chris Blanchard Ayres • June 26, 1949 • August 21, 2010 • Truckee, CA Geoffrey Baker • June 1, 1926 • April 12, 2011 • Iowa City, Iowa Bruce Murray Beal • October 29, 1954 • February 9, 2010 • Massachusetts Robert L. Bol
Re: [FairfieldLife] Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?
Of course not. It is baby food. You must be born again to enter the Kingdom. A
new infant can only digest the simplest of foods.Yeshua also spoke of bubbling
bliss as *living waters* flowing from within. He asked for a drink of water at
a well from a Sumerian woman and then gave her his living waters so as never to
thirst again. Shaktipat.
From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 1:54 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?
Of course not
However, I don't believe the mainline Christians today and in the past fully
understand this concept, which can be practically and scientifically understood
in the way MMY explained the unified field or Being.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Did Jesus Christ Say He is the Unified Field?
That's my take also. Though I'd expect very few church-goers would understand what we're on about. Alan Watts wrote clearly defending this same interpretation. The more correct post header should be: Jesus Christ said "I am the Unified Field" - the "I" is all of us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes, it would appear so. There's a passage in the New Testament in which he broke the bread, during the Last Supper, and said, 'take this and eat for this is my body. Then, he raised the cup of wine and said, 'drink this for this is my blood'. He also said his body and blood are true food and he who eats and drinks them will never die. IOW, he is saying that Being or the unified field is true food and he who partakes in it will be become eternal. How can his body and blood be in the form of bread and wine? Because Being or the unified field is in everything in creation, including the bread and wine, and because it is simultaneously the basis of all creation. So, Jesus was saying He is in everyone and everything. In one stroke, Jesus explained a very complex concept to the apostles so that they can understand how the universe functions and that He is the source of it all. However, I don't believe the mainline Christians today and in the past fully understand this concept, which can be practically and scientifically understood in the way MMY explained the unified field or Being.
