Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Sort of. It took me awhile to recognize that this place has been allowed to deteriorate one post at a time, deliberately. Once I saw that, that this is Rick's intention and legacy, I was OK with it. For the longest time, I simply thought he wasn't doing his job as moderator, when in fact he is precisely enabling the behavior he wants to see on here, and always has been. I have no issues with that at all - like I said, it just took me awhile to see it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : The funny thing is the more they go on about FFL and the need for moderating the more Rick is likely to keep it up the way it is. After what FFL has always been is a place for people who have on thing in common, that they were involved in TM, to share their outlook on everything, not just TM or spirituality. I've always said it's like the off topic sections many forums have. On 06/07/2015 04:37 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Xeno, you've been doing such a good job of explaining yourself and bringing clarity to these murky topics that I haven't felt any need to add anything. But I did want you to know that I've been reading what you have been writing and appreciating it. I especially like the distinction you make below and that I have highlighted in red. Jim's weakness is that he is either too lazy to rigorously engage his intellect, or is such an mental lightweight that he *can't* get involved with a topic intellectually. I tend towards believing the latter. Your strength, however -- AS I SEE THINGS -- is that as you say you get involved intellectually in topics here, but *don't* get involved with them emotionally. If there is such a thing as an actual demonstration of enlightened behavior on this forum -- it's not being demonstrated by Jim, but by Xeno -- line on water. From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2015 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show When you try to characterise an argument as feeble, you are not trying to respond to an argument in a reasoned way, you are just taking the lazy way out, so you do not have to do the work to think of a proper response. The only person on FFL I do not respond to is Richard, and I ignore his posts. I take time to respond to you however, but often you are very curt and dismissive. Judy was often dismissive in this way. I do not think Barry is this way, he is more of a hit and run assassin, and does not stay around to argue. I think you get annoyed if people disagree with you. I too get annoyed, but I usually try to think it through. Do you think of yourself as impatient? I often get that feeling from you. You sort of breeze through things without getting deeply involved intellectually, whereas I do not get deeply involved emotionally. Each of us is superficial in some way then. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... mailto:reverse_archery@... wrote : Despite your protestations to the contrary, trolls all look alike, and their objectives are always the same. Same template, different day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... wrote : Well, you certainly do not put any effort into responding to those you disagree with. That is another sort of feeble. Do you think everyone is out to hook you? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... mailto:reverse_archery@... wrote : You, like Barry, try to disguise your troll-bait. Unfortunately, you aren't any good at it. If you have any more questions about how the Yahoo groups interface operates, please ask. Otherwise, Xeno, I am content to be aware of your feeble intellectual masturbation, from a distance. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... wrote : I don't see there is much distinction between a distinction and a 'technical distinction' here. Yes Rick allows trolls, although who is and is not a troll partially depends on whether you like the content or not. Share liked Richard's content, while I think he is a troll. Would be easier to scan through things if Richard was not on the site. Because Rick does not post much, and does not actively moderate the site content, what rule is he breaking? Content by others is not moderated, the guidelines specify self-moderation because Rick choose the hands-off op! tion. Is 'darn' allowed bit not 'damn'? Seems like there is a certain flexibility. Generally I observe people want content that they disagree with to be moderated, so
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
I didn't mean to take away from either of you, Barry. Both you and Xeno do an amazing job on here of maintaining the vibe. Stellar, really. A true unity of spirit and intention, that you have demonstrated unceasingly. Congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Xeno, you've been doing such a good job of explaining yourself and bringing clarity to these murky topics that I haven't felt any need to add anything. But I did want you to know that I've been reading what you have been writing and appreciating it. I especially like the distinction you make below and that I have highlighted in red. Jim's weakness is that he is either too lazy to rigorously engage his intellect, or is such an mental lightweight that he *can't* get involved with a topic intellectually. I tend towards believing the latter. Your strength, however -- AS I SEE THINGS -- is that as you say you get involved intellectually in topics here, but *don't* get involved with them emotionally. If there is such a thing as an actual demonstration of enlightened behavior on this forum -- it's not being demonstrated by Jim, but by Xeno -- line on water. From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2015 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show When you try to characterise an argument as feeble, you are not trying to respond to an argument in a reasoned way, you are just taking the lazy way out, so you do not have to do the work to think of a proper response. The only person on FFL I do not respond to is Richard, and I ignore his posts. I take time to respond to you however, but often you are very curt and dismissive. Judy was often dismissive in this way. I do not think Barry is this way, he is more of a hit and run assassin, and does not stay around to argue. I think you get annoyed if people disagree with you. I too get annoyed, but I usually try to think it through. Do you think of yourself as impatient? I often get that feeling from you. You sort of breeze through things without getting deeply involved intellectually, whereas I do not get deeply involved emotionally. Each of us is superficial in some way then. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Despite your protestations to the contrary, trolls all look alike, and their objectives are always the same. Same template, different day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Well, you certainly do not put any effort into responding to those you disagree with. That is another sort of feeble. Do you think everyone is out to hook you? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : You, like Barry, try to disguise your troll-bait. Unfortunately, you aren't any good at it. If you have any more questions about how the Yahoo groups interface operates, please ask. Otherwise, Xeno, I am content to be aware of your feeble intellectual masturbation, from a distance. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I don't see there is much distinction between a distinction and a 'technical distinction' here. Yes Rick allows trolls, although who is and is not a troll partially depends on whether you like the content or not. Share liked Richard's content, while I think he is a troll. Would be easier to scan through things if Richard was not on the site. Because Rick does not post much, and does not actively moderate the site content, what rule is he breaking? Content by others is not moderated, the guidelines specify self-moderation because Rick choose the hands-off option. Is 'darn' allowed bit not 'damn'? Seems like there is a certain flexibility. Generally I observe people want content that they disagree with to be moderated, so which one is right in a disagreement over this? You do not break a rule because another does. I am not confused. I just do not care what you think about this particular subject. Moderating may require having some personal issues with what people say. If the guidelines were followed slavishly and literally, FFL would be as boring as The Peak usually is. If I were moderating this site, I would only eliminate one poster in the current group. Suppose I was moderating this site, and I made a rule that you had prove beyond a reasonable doubt that God existed before you were allowed to use the word or even the concept and related words on this site (you could publish a scientific paper in Science or Nature, that was accepted by scientists and replicated, that would work). You could talk about spirituality, but you could not use the word, say, 'divine' and others, otherwise you would be eliminated. What would your reaction be? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Surely you aren't as naive as you make yourself out to be, Xeno? Yes, the site
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
I think you need to figure out why you have issues with damned near everything I write. Not my problem, Xeno. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : One thing the guidelines do not tell you is to not be stupid, which tends to invite repercussions from those who think they know better. Cruelty is sometimes only in appearance. A true master might be very rough with a student (common in historical Zen for example), to wake the student from their slumbers, and appear to be cruel, if that particular student is in need of being aroused that way. The TMO seems rather callous at times, but it not because of a student's need, but an endemic flaw in the org. Some people seem naturally cruel. I have not encountered this on FFL but I have only been here about 1/3 the time FFL has been online. Most of the badgering on FFL seems to come from one person thinking another has made a stupid move and thinking they know better, tell them so in rather certain explicit terms. I do not think any of us have not done this. Now I agree with Buck's comments below about being constantly negative is an issue that can head one toward trouble, but I do not believe the reason he gave from one of Charlie's lectures, even though I liked Charlie. Charlie was fun to listen too, but I thought he was a bit nuts, into a lot of esoteric woo. unkind: uncharitable, unpleasant, disagreeable, nasty, mean, mean-spirited, cruel, vindictive, vicious, spiteful, malicious, callous, unsympathetic, unfeeling, uncaring, unsparing, hurtful, ill-natured, hard-hearted, cold-hearted; unfriendly, uncivil, inconsiderate, insensitive, and hostile — if you can face this, you might be a candidate for invincibility, and if not, you might be a candidate for ridicule if you are promoting a technique that promotes invincibility, but it did not work for you, even though you keep saying it does. No one is invincible on the personal level of life because that is the weakest level, in which our flaws become most evident. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you all the best in your new role... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in their guidance. For instance, “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances and one's health and lifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and excess sunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained by cosmic current.” -Charles Lutes, Will and Desire, 5/3/91 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting limit. WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : J Alexander Stanley is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy making colloidal silver and cooking meat at low temps for a loong time (wish I had some now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than I would any moderation stuff. And I appreciated him giving me the info on his silver maker. So thus far, I am quite pleased at the moderate role J Alexander plays as moderator. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
What is the point here? We were originally discussing the reason that Rick is not in compliance over here, and you want to discuss anything but. It is tiresome.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : When you try to characterise an argument as feeble, you are not trying to respond to an argument in a reasoned way, you are just taking the lazy way out, so you do not have to do the work to think of a proper response. The only person on FFL I do not respond to is Richard, and I ignore his posts. I take time to respond to you however, but often you are very curt and dismissive. Judy was often dismissive in this way. I do not think Barry is this way, he is more of a hit and run assassin, and does not stay around to argue. I think you get annoyed if people disagree with you. I too get annoyed, but I usually try to think it through. Do you think of yourself as impatient? I often get that feeling from you. You sort of breeze through things without getting deeply involved intellectually, whereas I do not get deeply involved emotionally. Each of us is superficial in some way then. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Despite your protestations to the contrary, trolls all look alike, and their objectives are always the same. Same template, different day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Well, you certainly do not put any effort into responding to those you disagree with. That is another sort of feeble. Do you think everyone is out to hook you? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : You, like Barry, try to disguise your troll-bait. Unfortunately, you aren't any good at it. If you have any more questions about how the Yahoo groups interface operates, please ask. Otherwise, Xeno, I am content to be aware of your feeble intellectual masturbation, from a distance. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I don't see there is much distinction between a distinction and a 'technical distinction' here. Yes Rick allows trolls, although who is and is not a troll partially depends on whether you like the content or not. Share liked Richard's content, while I think he is a troll. Would be easier to scan through things if Richard was not on the site. Because Rick does not post much, and does not actively moderate the site content, what rule is he breaking? Content by others is not moderated, the guidelines specify self-moderation because Rick choose the hands-off option. Is 'darn' allowed bit not 'damn'? Seems like there is a certain flexibility. Generally I observe people want content that they disagree with to be moderated, so which one is right in a disagreement over this? You do not break a rule because another does. I am not confused. I just do not care what you think about this particular subject. Moderating may require having some personal issues with what people say. If the guidelines were followed slavishly and literally, FFL would be as boring as The Peak usually is. If I were moderating this site, I would only eliminate one poster in the current group. Suppose I was moderating this site, and I made a rule that you had prove beyond a reasonable doubt that God existed before you were allowed to use the word or even the concept and related words on this site (you could publish a scientific paper in Science or Nature, that was accepted by scientists and replicated, that would work). You could talk about spirituality, but you could not use the word, say, 'divine' and others, otherwise you would be eliminated. What would your reaction be? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Surely you aren't as naive as you make yourself out to be, Xeno? Yes, the site is not moderated, but that is only a technical distinction. The Peak is not moderated either, with regard to the group settings. You possibly don't grasp the difference between moderating a site proactively, which is what the Yahoo setting refers to, and consciously breaking the rules here, as Rick does. Rick enables trolls, and that is definitely against the guidelines here. I hope that clears things up. I understand your confusion, as you have yet to run or moderate a forum, but perhaps you could understand the issue better next time, before posting? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Surely you aren't as naive as you make yourself out to be, Xeno? Yes, the site is not moderated, but that is only a technical distinction. The Peak is not moderated either, with regard to the group settings. You possibly don't grasp the difference between moderating a site proactively, which is what the Yahoo setting refers to, and consciously breaking the rules here, as Rick does. Rick enables trolls, and that is definitely against the guidelines here. I hope that clears things up. I understand your confusion, as you have yet to run or moderate a forum, but perhaps you could understand the issue better next time, before posting? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line free speech. You have your own content-moderated group by choice, so what is drawing you to a place you clearly SAY you do not like? This is insane behaviour. You have obviously not looked at some of the other so-called 'spiritual' groups on Yahoo and other places where similar ideological battles take place. Some get overrun with spam. Quite a lot simply die from lack of interest. Quite a lot of them hide messages from non-members so you cannot see what it is really about without joining. Some are moderated by their administrators, and some are not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting limit. WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : J Alexander Stanley is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy making colloidal silver and cooking meat at low temps for a loong time (wish I had some now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than I would any moderation stuff. And I appreciated him giving me the info on his silver maker. So thus far, I am quite pleased at the moderate role J Alexander plays as moderator. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder these deep questions, but when it attracts trolls, he bails. No problem now that I have adjusted, but let's please not act as if someone is EVER going to do anything per the Yahoo Guidelines here. It is imo a useless thing to bring up at this point. I thought you left? Left to start a group with moderation? Why not stay there if you can't cope with being here? Why the endless whining? Is it some sort of denial of service for the people who actually like it here? Are you on some sort of mission to save us from ourselves? You are the irritating troll, do you understand? You and your mates who also never contribute anything. Go away. Nothing is
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
You, like Barry, try to disguise your troll-bait. Unfortunately, you aren't any good at it. If you have any more questions about how the Yahoo groups interface operates, please ask. Otherwise, Xeno, I am content to be aware of your feeble intellectual masturbation, from a distance. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I don't see there is much distinction between a distinction and a 'technical distinction' here. Yes Rick allows trolls, although who is and is not a troll partially depends on whether you like the content or not. Share liked Richard's content, while I think he is a troll. Would be easier to scan through things if Richard was not on the site. Because Rick does not post much, and does not actively moderate the site content, what rule is he breaking? Content by others is not moderated, the guidelines specify self-moderation because Rick choose the hands-off option. Is 'darn' allowed bit not 'damn'? Seems like there is a certain flexibility. Generally I observe people want content that they disagree with to be moderated, so which one is right in a disagreement over this? You do not break a rule because another does. I am not confused. I just do not care what you think about this particular subject. Moderating may require having some personal issues with what people say. If the guidelines were followed slavishly and literally, FFL would be as boring as The Peak usually is. If I were moderating this site, I would only eliminate one poster in the current group. Suppose I was moderating this site, and I made a rule that you had prove beyond a reasonable doubt that God existed before you were allowed to use the word or even the concept and related words on this site (you could publish a scientific paper in Science or Nature, that was accepted by scientists and replicated, that would work). You could talk about spirituality, but you could not use the word, say, 'divine' and others, otherwise you would be eliminated. What would your reaction be? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Surely you aren't as naive as you make yourself out to be, Xeno? Yes, the site is not moderated, but that is only a technical distinction. The Peak is not moderated either, with regard to the group settings. You possibly don't grasp the difference between moderating a site proactively, which is what the Yahoo setting refers to, and consciously breaking the rules here, as Rick does. Rick enables trolls, and that is definitely against the guidelines here. I hope that clears things up. I understand your confusion, as you have yet to run or moderate a forum, but perhaps you could understand the issue better next time, before posting? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line free speech. You have your own content-moderated group by choice, so what is drawing you to a place you clearly SAY you do not like? This is insane behaviour. You have obviously not looked at some of the other so-called 'spiritual' groups on Yahoo and other places where similar ideological battles take place. Some get overrun with spam. Quite a lot simply die from lack of interest. Quite a lot of them hide messages from non-members so you cannot see what it is really about without joining. Some are moderated by their administrators, and some are not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you all the best in your new role... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in their guidance. For instance, “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances and one's health and lifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and excess sunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained by cosmic current.” -Charles Lutes, Will and Desire, 5/3/91 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting limit. WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : J Alexander Stanley is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy making colloidal silver and cooking meat at low temps for a loong time (wish I had some now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than I would any moderation stuff. And I appreciated him giving me the info on his silver maker. So thus far, I am quite pleased at the moderate role J Alexander plays as moderator. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder these deep questions, but when it attracts trolls, he bails. No problem now that I have adjusted, but let's please not act as if someone is EVER going to do anything per the Yahoo Guidelines here. It is imo a useless thing to bring up at this point. I thought you left? Left to start a group with moderation? Why not stay there if you can't cope with being here? Why the endless whining? Is it some sort of denial of service for the people who actually like it here? Are you on some sort of mission to save us from ourselves? You are the irritating troll, do you understand? You and your mates who also never contribute anything. Go away. Nothing is going to change here because we like chatting and having fun. Go away and stop spoiling it. You and your mates are tedious beyond words. Go away. You are the trolls. Go away. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : It is true the original post by Turqb was the meme of a slur in violation of the Yahoo-groups guidelines and should have been moderated simply then by the group owner. Moderation is simple to do, either ask someone to withdraw/delete such a post themselves or a moderator remove it and suspend the perp's membership posting privilege. Either-or. Ask the person for some self-restraint and if they don't come right through then clip their membership privilege. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are quite reasonable. -JaiGuruYou! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show How do you know no one here is a child molester? Since, for you Xeno, it doesn't qualify if
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Despite your protestations to the contrary, trolls all look alike, and their objectives are always the same. Same template, different day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Well, you certainly do not put any effort into responding to those you disagree with. That is another sort of feeble. Do you think everyone is out to hook you? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : You, like Barry, try to disguise your troll-bait. Unfortunately, you aren't any good at it. If you have any more questions about how the Yahoo groups interface operates, please ask. Otherwise, Xeno, I am content to be aware of your feeble intellectual masturbation, from a distance. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I don't see there is much distinction between a distinction and a 'technical distinction' here. Yes Rick allows trolls, although who is and is not a troll partially depends on whether you like the content or not. Share liked Richard's content, while I think he is a troll. Would be easier to scan through things if Richard was not on the site. Because Rick does not post much, and does not actively moderate the site content, what rule is he breaking? Content by others is not moderated, the guidelines specify self-moderation because Rick choose the hands-off option. Is 'darn' allowed bit not 'damn'? Seems like there is a certain flexibility. Generally I observe people want content that they disagree with to be moderated, so which one is right in a disagreement over this? You do not break a rule because another does. I am not confused. I just do not care what you think about this particular subject. Moderating may require having some personal issues with what people say. If the guidelines were followed slavishly and literally, FFL would be as boring as The Peak usually is. If I were moderating this site, I would only eliminate one poster in the current group. Suppose I was moderating this site, and I made a rule that you had prove beyond a reasonable doubt that God existed before you were allowed to use the word or even the concept and related words on this site (you could publish a scientific paper in Science or Nature, that was accepted by scientists and replicated, that would work). You could talk about spirituality, but you could not use the word, say, 'divine' and others, otherwise you would be eliminated. What would your reaction be? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Surely you aren't as naive as you make yourself out to be, Xeno? Yes, the site is not moderated, but that is only a technical distinction. The Peak is not moderated either, with regard to the group settings. You possibly don't grasp the difference between moderating a site proactively, which is what the Yahoo setting refers to, and consciously breaking the rules here, as Rick does. Rick enables trolls, and that is definitely against the guidelines here. I hope that clears things up. I understand your confusion, as you have yet to run or moderate a forum, but perhaps you could understand the issue better next time, before posting? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line free speech. You have your own content-moderated group by choice, so what is drawing you to a place you clearly SAY you do not like? This is insane behaviour. You have obviously not looked at some of the other so-called 'spiritual' groups on Yahoo and other places where similar ideological battles take place. Some get overrun with spam. Quite a lot simply die from lack of interest. Quite a lot of them hide messages from non-members so you cannot see what it is really about without joining. Some are moderated by their administrators, and some are not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
How do you know no one here is a child molester? Since, for you Xeno, it doesn't qualify if someone suggests anal sex with babies, where do you personally draw the line, whether or not someone has such tendencies? I think you've sort of painted yourself into a corner on this one. I am not accusing Barry of anything, but I am *very curious* about how you know the truth of what you just said, about Barry, or anyone else here? Wouldn't the simplest way to make such an association (of child molestation), be based on what someone said? Especially if no one else has even come close to making such a suggestion? How else would you determine the truth? This has nothing to do with conditioning. It has to do with understanding better how your mind works, because you aren't sounding at all logical right now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Somebody Cares is a gift shop in Fairfield Iowa. I don't live there any more. There are pressing issues on FFL? You just did not do what you said, that's all. That is not an issue with me, but to write about something here, an attempt at subject matter gives focus, until the conversation drifts off on another tangent. By the way, violence against children in the world is fairly commonplace, but here no one I am aware of is a child molester, so its mention is not really a matter of any concern unless a person is accused of it, and then it is a concern to that person perhaps as it was to Barry. Where violence is actually directed at children is the concern. Why you got off on that tangent is beyond me. Maybe you have or had a particular button that got pressed. It happens. Everybody has buttons. Conditioning lasts all life long. Enlightenment does not get rid of conditioning automatically, it does rid the mind of certain patterns of thought and reaction, but not all patterns. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Since you cracked open the post, might as well share the whole thing... Rick, I am sorry, but a forum where anyone is allowed to suggest sexual violence AGAINST children, is not someplace I want to be. I am truly sorry things have degenerated to this point. I am local to the Yahoo corporation, and am considering a detailed notice to the Yahoo administrators, including screen names, of this current activity. Barry makes one excuse after another, about using this foul, sexually perverted, and unbalanced voice, and is clearly not well. This is no longer a healthy environment for anyone to participate in. I am all for differing opinions on here, but you have allowed one individual's mental illness to co-opt what could be a fun place to hang out, and I guess I am one of the casualties. See ya!! Anyway, Rick hasn't done jack, so who cares whether I post here or not, or what I said about posting here, previously? Is that truly our most pressing issue here on FFL, Xeno? If you agree that it is, I'd love to hear why. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : 'Perhaps they were under the impression' refers to Barry and Salyavin; 'persons' refers to Jim and Judy. Jim on 28 Nov 2014 Rick - Until Barry is removed - Goodbye So, if Jim was true to his word, he ought not be posting to FFL now. So he lied. Judy made no such announcement, just stopped posting one day, but returned 24 April 2015 for a few posts and then on 27 April 2015 wrote, 'You can all relax now.' and 'Now I'm going to go take a long hot bath to wash off the corruption. Phew. Bye.' This implied she was signing off and would prefer not to have to deal with certain people on FFL, for example 'It was the relentless vicious and dishonest personal attacks, led by Barry, on those TM supporters that finally triggered the mass exodus to The Peak.' Judy made references to Barry's thugs, which might include me. However she did not specifically say she would not return. As for me, because Judy said 'I stand by what I wrote', she cannot have a discussion with me without lying because I have not withdrawn or documented certain accusations, Judy saying 'Why don't you fuck off? I'm not going to discuss anything with you until you've documented your accusations, or withdrawn them.' As far as I can tell, Judy is consistent here, as far as never having said she would not return. Returning to a situation that has never resolved is a good example of how the mind's thinking processes revolve in samsara, and this is not a bad thing, rebirth involves both experiences we wish not to revisit and those we wish to. Ah, the glory of battle! Hell grant soon we hear again the swords clash! And the shrill neighs of destriers in battle rejoicing, Spiked breast to spiked breast opposing! Better one hour's stour than a year's peace With fat boards, bawds, wine and frail music! Bah! there's no wine like the blood's crimson! —Ezra
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder these deep questions, but when it attracts trolls, he bails. No problem now that I have adjusted, but let's please not act as if someone is EVER going to do anything per the Yahoo Guidelines here. It is imo a useless thing to bring up at this point. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : It is true the original post by Turqb was the meme of a slur in violation of the Yahoo-groups guidelines and should have been moderated simply then by the group owner. Moderation is simple to do, either ask someone to withdraw/delete such a post themselves or a moderator remove it and suspend the perp's membership posting privilege. Either-or. Ask the person for some self-restraint and if they don't come right through then clip their membership privilege. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are quite reasonable. -JaiGuruYou! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show How do you know no one here is a child molester? Since, for you Xeno, it doesn't qualify if someone suggests anal sex with babies, where do you personally draw the line, whether or not someone has such tendencies? I think you've sort of painted yourself into a corner on this one. I am not accusing Barry of anything... Similarly, I am not accusing Jim Flanegin from the Chico, California area of anything, just reminding him that people who boast of having a huge stash of automatic weapons and ammunition and of knowing how to create IEDs and chemical weapons might just show up in the keyword scans of Internet traffic conducted by the NSA, ATF, and Secret Service, so such bragging might not be the smartest thing for him to do.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Sounds pretty proprietary. I'd get that looked at if I were you...:-) I don't usually read your posts. Why all the attention? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder these deep questions, but when it attracts trolls, he bails. No problem now that I have adjusted, but let's please not act as if someone is EVER going to do anything per the Yahoo Guidelines here. It is imo a useless thing to bring up at this point. I thought you left? Left to start a group with moderation? Why not stay there if you can't cope with being here? Why the endless whining? Is it some sort of denial of service for the people who actually like it here? Are you on some sort of mission to save us from ourselves? You are the irritating troll, do you understand? You and your mates who also never contribute anything. Go away. Nothing is going to change here because we like chatting and having fun. Go away and stop spoiling it. You and your mates are tedious beyond words. Go away. You are the trolls. Go away. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : It is true the original post by Turqb was the meme of a slur in violation of the Yahoo-groups guidelines and should have been moderated simply then by the group owner. Moderation is simple to do, either ask someone to withdraw/delete such a post themselves or a moderator remove it and suspend the perp's membership posting privilege. Either-or. Ask the person for some self-restraint and if they don't come right through then clip their membership privilege. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are quite reasonable. -JaiGuruYou! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show How do you know no one here is a child molester? Since, for you Xeno, it doesn't qualify if someone suggests anal sex with babies, where do you personally draw the line, whether or not someone has such tendencies? I think you've sort of painted yourself into a corner on this one. I am not accusing Barry of anything... Similarly, I am not accusing Jim Flanegin from the Chico, California area of anything, just reminding him that people who boast of having a huge stash of automatic weapons and ammunition and of knowing how to create IEDs and chemical weapons might just show up in the keyword scans of Internet traffic conducted by the NSA, ATF, and Secret Service, so such bragging might not be the smartest thing for him to do.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
I'm sorry but the image this instantly called up, was you wearing a set of chrome plastic six-shooters, with a tiny cowboy hat perched on your head, and a real Sheriff's Badge pinned to your shirt. Have a nice day. Thank God I am quite busy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Doug, here is a question for you. What would you suggest is the proper way to deal with someone on a Yahoo group who not only baselessly calls a fellow member of that group a child molestor, but who then goes further, and urges other members of the group to call or write to authorities in this person's home town to report him as a child molestor? I'll be interested to hear your suggestion for what an appropriate response to this might be, because the Dutch police and Interpol agents I worked with thought that the most appropriate response to posts such as this should be prison. These Dutch officials are back on the case, BTW, given that the offender in question doesn't seem to have learned his lesson... From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show It is true the original post by Turqb was the meme of a slur in violation of the Yahoo-groups guidelines and should have been moderated simply then by the group owner. Moderation is simple to do, either ask someone to withdraw/delete such a post themselves or a moderator remove it and suspend the perp's membership posting privilege. Either-or. Ask the person for some self-restraint and if they don't come right through then clip their membership privilege. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are quite reasonable. -JaiGuruYou! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show How do you know no one here is a child molester? Since, for you Xeno, it doesn't qualify if someone suggests anal sex with babies, where do you personally draw the line, whether or not someone has such tendencies? I think you've sort of painted yourself into a corner on this one. I am not accusing Barry of anything... Similarly, I am not accusing Jim Flanegin from the Chico, California area of anything, just reminding him that people who boast of having a huge stash of automatic weapons and ammunition and of knowing how to create IEDs and chemical weapons might just show up in the keyword scans of Internet traffic conducted by the NSA, ATF, and Secret Service, so such bragging might not be the smartest thing for him to do.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Xeno, you appear to be giving child molestation a pass, as simply subject to our conditioning. I find this line of thinking inhumane, and morally bankrupt. No need to discuss this further with you, and I recommend that you see a therapist. Something in your core has apparently rotted. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Of course I actually do not know. Estimates range from 1% to 5% of the population. There is a difference between thought and action except when identification is so strong that thought and desire is the only possible reality overriding all alternatives. That it is possible to imagine things, invent things in the mind that are not real but which are disturbing to other people. For example, writers like Stephen King, and makers of horror movies, for example, can dream up all sorts of gruesome things that they would never imagine doing in their private life at home. Take for example the motion picture 'Let the Right One In', a Swedish production. It is a peculiar romance, a love story, set amid the background of vampirism. It is a strange, dark, but wonderfully moving film, and yet I suspect many people would be totally revolted by it, or deeply upset. People's thoughts and conditioning result in many things in this film appearing as somehow real. Truth is never based on what someone said. It is the background by which one might determine how what someone says conforms to what happens in the universe. It is the 'sense' from which logic is born, and the 'sense' that allows us to see difference between thoughts, actions, experiences. There are linear modes of appreciation (thought) and non-linear modes (intuition). Neither is absolutely reliable in determining the states of things, but they are a guide. There were at last post count 23 posters (minus Fairfield Life and Barry posting two different ways). Thus based on statistics there is about 1/4 to one child molester on this forum. We sometimes find the people who object to something strenuously themselves are guilty of that very thing. Barry lives with what seems to be a close knit group; it seems unlikely to me he would be what you think. I usually suspect the most vocal people first, those who make a show of how horrible something is. But in reality we do not have any evidence whatever. Just going by what a person says is not reliable. Have you ever been to the Baby in the Meat Grinder Hamburger Palace? I love horror films. I seldom get my buttons pushed watching horror movies, though it has happened a few times in the past 7 decades. I find romantic movies harder to watch, they push my buttons more. Whatever, but those who react most strongly always seem to me to not be thinking clearly. If something is really that bad in 'real life', you don't run away, you stay and try to do something about it if that is possible. FFL is not exactly real life. Ideas are discussed here, it is a platform for discussion, even though it often devolves into personal rivalries, which I believe is the result of conditioning. If you really want to find out anything directly, you would have to go to the Netherlands. It is much easier to say something. And in the United States, by law, a person is presumed innocent until proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be guilty of something. Statistically, you could be just as guilty of what you spoke about Barry. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : How do you know no one here is a child molester? Since, for you Xeno, it doesn't qualify if someone suggests anal sex with babies, where do you personally draw the line, whether or not someone has such tendencies? I think you've sort of painted yourself into a corner on this one. I am not accusing Barry of anything, but I am *very curious* about how you know the truth of what you just said, about Barry, or anyone else here? Wouldn't the simplest way to make such an association (of child molestation), be based on what someone said? Especially if no one else has even come close to making such a suggestion? How else would you determine the truth? This has nothing to do with conditioning. It has to do with understanding better how your mind works, because you aren't sounding at all logical right now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Somebody Cares is a gift shop in Fairfield Iowa. I don't live there any more. There are pressing issues on FFL? You just did not do what you said, that's all. That is not an issue with me, but to write about something here, an attempt at subject matter gives focus, until the conversation drifts off on another tangent. By the way, violence against children in the world is fairly commonplace, but here no one I am aware of is a child molester, so its mention is not really a matter of any concern unless a person is accused of it, and then it is a concern to that person perhaps
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
In any case, Michael, you are welcome at The Peak. We all have differing opinions over there, but discussions are more reserved in nature, and it cuts both ways - there is not the same level of controversy, which can be engaging on FFL, though discussions are also allowed to proceed further than they typically do here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : nabby and I were never pleasant to one another - I really didn't know of his existence till he began to revile me for having said some (according to him and Dougy) vile things about marshy, which I thought was actually expressing truth but they disagreed and Nabby reviled and that was the way of it. Of course I must admit I also made quite a bit of fun of Benjy Creme so that didn't help matters any. From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show Interestingly, Nabby hasn't gotten much in the way of agreement concerning crop circles or Creme. Yet nobody has been booted off The Peak for expressing their disagreement. How can this be? It almost seems as though the only real difference between FFL and The Peak is that the members of the latter are able to disagree with each other pleasantly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : NO ONE from FFL does the same thing over on The_Leak. I thought about it a few times, but I know if I read any of Nabby's crop circle or Benjy Creme stuff, my response would get me booted off right fast, so I don't bother.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting limit. WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : J Alexander Stanley is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy making colloidal silver and cooking meat at low temps for a loong time (wish I had some now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than I would any moderation stuff. And I appreciated him giving me the info on his silver maker. So thus far, I am quite pleased at the moderate role J Alexander plays as moderator. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder these deep questions, but when it attracts trolls, he bails. No problem now that I have adjusted, but let's please not act as if someone is EVER going to do anything per the Yahoo Guidelines here. It is imo a useless thing to bring up at this point. I thought you left? Left to start a group with moderation? Why not stay there if you can't cope with being here? Why the endless whining? Is it some sort of denial of service for the people who actually like it here? Are you on some sort of mission to save us from ourselves? You are the irritating troll, do you understand? You and your mates who also never contribute anything. Go away. Nothing is going to change here because we like chatting and having fun. Go away and stop spoiling it. You and your mates are tedious beyond words. Go away. You are the trolls. Go away. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : It is true the original post by Turqb was the meme of a slur in violation of the Yahoo-groups guidelines and should have been moderated simply then by the group owner. Moderation is simple to do, either ask someone to withdraw/delete such a post themselves or a moderator remove it and suspend the perp's membership posting privilege. Either-or. Ask the person for some self-restraint and if they don't come right through then clip their membership privilege. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are quite reasonable. -JaiGuruYou! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show How do you know no one here is a child molester? Since, for you Xeno, it doesn't qualify if someone suggests anal sex with babies, where do you personally draw the line, whether or not someone has such tendencies? I think you've sort of painted yourself into a corner on this one. I am not accusing Barry of anything... Similarly, I am not accusing Jim Flanegin from the Chico, California area of anything, just reminding him that people who boast of having a huge stash of automatic weapons and ammunition and of knowing how to create IEDs and chemical weapons might just show up in the keyword scans of Internet traffic conducted by the NSA, ATF, and Secret Service, so such bragging might not be the smartest thing for him to do.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Believe me, Alex, after seeing the torpor demonstrated by the moderators here, I have long ago adjusted to the environment. If Rick wants to continue to violate the guidelines, that is on him. Not my problem. I am not here to clean up his mess, nor to take the rap for his laziness and/or ineptitude. I just like to call a spade a spade. After all, isn't that what we do here on FFL, the free speech zone? FFL really makes him look bad, too, especially with his new visibility due to his BATGAP interviews. The thing I find puzzling about Rick, is that he has closed down the comments on his BATGAP site, due to trolls, but doesn't have the integrity to deal with the problem here. Not very consistent, almost seems blatantly self-serving. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : If it bothers you that much, feel free to bring the violations to Yahoo's attention. Personally, I think FFL has served its original purpose, and it's time to shut it down. But, Rick is content to leave it as it is, taking a peek at it once in a while. A few years ago, he offered to transfer ownership of the group to me, and I turned him down. Considering that Rick has practically abandoned FFL, perhaps it's a good time for someone to step up and take over the reins. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting limit. WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : J Alexander Stanley is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy making colloidal silver and cooking meat at low temps for a loong time (wish I had some now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than I would any moderation stuff. And I appreciated him giving me the info on his silver maker. So thus far, I am quite pleased at the moderate role J Alexander plays as moderator. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder these deep questions, but when it attracts trolls, he bails. No problem now that I have adjusted, but let's please not act as if someone is EVER going to do anything per the Yahoo Guidelines here. It is imo a useless thing to bring up at this point. I thought you left? Left to start a group with moderation? Why not stay there if you can't cope with being here? Why the endless whining? Is it some sort of denial of service for the people who actually like it here? Are you on some sort of mission to save us from ourselves? You are the irritating troll, do you understand? You and your mates who also never contribute anything. Go away. Nothing is going to change here because we like chatting and having fun. Go away and stop spoiling it. You and your mates are tedious beyond words. Go away. You are the trolls. Go away. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : It is true the original post by Turqb was the meme of a slur in violation of the Yahoo-groups guidelines and should have been moderated simply then by the group owner. Moderation is simple to do, either ask someone to withdraw/delete such a post themselves or a moderator remove it and suspend the perp's membership posting privilege. Either-or. Ask the person for some self-restraint and if they don't come right through then clip their membership privilege. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are quite reasonable. -JaiGuruYou! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Since you cracked open the post, might as well share the whole thing... Rick, I am sorry, but a forum where anyone is allowed to suggest sexual violence AGAINST children, is not someplace I want to be. I am truly sorry things have degenerated to this point. I am local to the Yahoo corporation, and am considering a detailed notice to the Yahoo administrators, including screen names, of this current activity. Barry makes one excuse after another, about using this foul, sexually perverted, and unbalanced voice, and is clearly not well. This is no longer a healthy environment for anyone to participate in. I am all for differing opinions on here, but you have allowed one individual's mental illness to co-opt what could be a fun place to hang out, and I guess I am one of the casualties. See ya!! Anyway, Rick hasn't done jack, so who cares whether I post here or not, or what I said about posting here, previously? Is that truly our most pressing issue here on FFL, Xeno? If you agree that it is, I'd love to hear why. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : 'Perhaps they were under the impression' refers to Barry and Salyavin; 'persons' refers to Jim and Judy. Jim on 28 Nov 2014 Rick - Until Barry is removed - Goodbye So, if Jim was true to his word, he ought not be posting to FFL now. So he lied. Judy made no such announcement, just stopped posting one day, but returned 24 April 2015 for a few posts and then on 27 April 2015 wrote, 'You can all relax now.' and 'Now I'm going to go take a long hot bath to wash off the corruption. Phew. Bye.' This implied she was signing off and would prefer not to have to deal with certain people on FFL, for example 'It was the relentless vicious and dishonest personal attacks, led by Barry, on those TM supporters that finally triggered the mass exodus to The Peak.' Judy made references to Barry's thugs, which might include me. However she did not specifically say she would not return. As for me, because Judy said 'I stand by what I wrote', she cannot have a discussion with me without lying because I have not withdrawn or documented certain accusations, Judy saying 'Why don't you fuck off? I'm not going to discuss anything with you until you've documented your accusations, or withdrawn them.' As far as I can tell, Judy is consistent here, as far as never having said she would not return. Returning to a situation that has never resolved is a good example of how the mind's thinking processes revolve in samsara, and this is not a bad thing, rebirth involves both experiences we wish not to revisit and those we wish to. Ah, the glory of battle! Hell grant soon we hear again the swords clash! And the shrill neighs of destriers in battle rejoicing, Spiked breast to spiked breast opposing! Better one hour's stour than a year's peace With fat boards, bawds, wine and frail music! Bah! there's no wine like the blood's crimson! —Ezra Pound ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Perhaps they were under the impression, based on what was said, these particular persons would not return to FFL ever. You wouldn't be referring to Jim and me, would you? Are you afraid to state our names? Actually if they were under that impression based on what I said, they were hallucinating, because I didn't say nuttin'. Such a reappearance is like the re-discovery of some rare endangered species thought to be extinct, like the mugwort salamander is to botanists and batrachologists. In this case though, preservation of species is not the goal. I believe hunting techniques to extinction are probably more likely, one of the forces of natural selection here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : This is hilarious. Jim and I pop in for brief visits, leave a few posts each, and Barry and Salyavin spring into full-on jibbering-idiot mode, slapping together a tag-team pastiche of stupid mistakes, lies, misrepresentations, and wildly illogical analyses. Funniest of all, they portray Jim's and my visits as a massive invasion of a horde of bloodthirsty Peakers. I wasn't going to post again for awhile, but this is just too tempting. I have a little extra time this week, so I may stick around and take apart their freakout piece by piece. Stay tuned...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
No one hates you, Barry. What a ridiculous thing to assert. I don't hate you. I think you spend way too much time on the Internet, wasting your time, trying to get negative reactions from others, instead of finding a woman to share your heart with. I certainly don't hate you, though - I am in a different league from you. With the little that you have accomplished in life, I can't compare myself to you. That would be cruel. Anyway, me hate you? Not a chance. Do I think you are throwing your life away? Yes, I do. Once again, this everyone hates Barry routine, is another strawman fantasy that prevents you from helping yourself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I know they're trying to start up their old Mean Girls Club Hate Barry sessions again, but I'm trying to ignore them so that they don't drag FFL back into the gutter of their own state of consciousness again. I'm not surprised to see Jim and his minions continuing to plague FFL so they can drop their Get Barry bombs. After all, that's really why they left. Jimbo made a big stink about nothing because he was attempting to badger Rick into throwing me off of the forum. When Rick called his bluff and ignored him, Jimbo was stuck over their on Boring Forum, having to make up new lies about his supposed enlightenment every day to keep the people he'd suckered into following him there entertained. Personally I think his most recent attempts to pander to his fellow The_Leak people *by writing to them on FFL* are (dare I say it) the peak of silliness and idiocy. He talked these poor people into running away from this negative forum and now he writes *to* them here, having created a situation in which they're so bored with him and the BS he slings over there on The_Leak that they have to come back here and read FFL every day just to get by. What makes it even more embarrassing for him (and more hilarious for us to watch) is that he has to do all of this while pretending to be three different people. As for the Judester, it is kinda surprising that she's still so *obviously* stuck in Hate Barry Mode. I don't think she's made a *single* post in either of her drive-bys that *didn't* attempt to demonize Barry and his (her new favorite word) thugs. One would think that if a person is trying to claim they left FFL for positive reasons, they shouldn't undercut that claim by coming back every so often to prove that she's still *just as negative as ever* and towards *the same people as ever* -- Barry and anyone who dares to like him. But, as Salyavin suggests, I guess we have to be somewhat compassionate towards these dweebs because WE -- the ones they obsess on and have *been* obsessing on for years -- are clearly the most interesting people in their lives. They may claim to hate us, but they *clearly* can't live without us. I hate going on about it in case anyone thinks I'm reciprocating what I claim to dislike or even provoking it, but it is funny to see Judy coming over all self-righteous. Anyone would think she was some sort of ultra-pure force for good on here when the reality of it is that she was as aggressive and intense as they come. Why, even WillyTex came out of character long enough to call her a mean spirited old bag for her endless haranguing of Share. And it was hardly just Share, Judy loves arguing and when she took a dislike to someone she was happy to drive them off. If the peaksters want her as their queen bee I'm happy for them but it does underline what I'm going on about as far as self awareness goes. I'm starting to think people assume I mean just being aware of their feelings or something but being properly self aware is being objective about what we are really like. We dislike in others what we fear in ourselves. I have cosmic love for everyone, I just wish they'd post what they think about things rather than just whining about everybody else. Great minds discuss ideas etc... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Why are all these blustering blowhards scurrying back to FFL from the Peep? Must be really boring over there with everyone congratulating themselves about how intelligent they really are - oh, and enlightened too. Seemed that they all left FFL in a big huff. So how come they're now still going on and on with the same old fluff? So, ca... ca... can we jus... just get along? You know ... being in Unity and all that. No, the trouble is they aren't allowed to be negative over there so they have to come here and indulge their inner bitch. I'd rather they came here and posted something they thought was worth reading rather than all this whining but until Rick sets them free we'll be stuck with it because it doesn't seem like any of them are
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
MJ, Please find one post where I did that. I certainly stated it as obvious, but I never congratulated myself about it. That is a story someone else invented. I do recall someone posting all caps that I was not fucking enlightened, which is a little extreme, don't you think? It is a tough subject to talk about, especially with the rest of life happening at the same time, and I am certainly neither a teacher or a scholar when it comes to writing about spirituality. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : have never seen anyone congratulating him- or herself on how intelligent or enlightened they really are. Jim did it plenty enough here on FFL. From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 5:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show Before Barry and/or one or more of the Thugs decides to pile on, allow me to point out that there is actually only one person from The Peak, Jim, who posts here once in awhile. Doug and Steve have been posting on both forums all along. I don't post on The Peak at all and extremely rarely on FFL (this is my second brief visit since last June). Xeno never left FFL but slums over on The Peak. I think that about covers it. Did you have anyone else in mind? Or were you simply imagining things? And just for the record, I read The Peak occasionally and have never seen anyone congratulating him- or herself on how intelligent or enlightened they really are. I think you must have hallucinated that as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Why are all these blustering blowhards scurrying back to FFL from the Peep? Must be really boring over there with everyone congratulating themselves about how intelligent they really are - oh, and enlightened too. Seemed that they all left FFL in a big huff. So how come they're now still going on and on with the same old fluff? So, ca... ca... can we jus... just get along? You know ... being in Unity and all that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Thanks MJ. It was something I felt could be mentioned at the time with everyone talking about enlightenment, but very third person about it. I am inclined to open doors to see what is behind them. I always learn a lot. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : come to think of it, I believe you are right and I apologize to you here and now. From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show MJ, Please find one post where I did that. I certainly stated it as obvious, but I never congratulated myself about it. That is a story someone else invented. I do recall someone posting all caps that I was not fucking enlightened, which is a little extreme, don't you think? It is a tough subject to talk about, especially with the rest of life happening at the same time, and I am certainly neither a teacher or a scholar when it comes to writing about spirituality. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : have never seen anyone congratulating him- or herself on how intelligent or enlightened they really are. Jim did it plenty enough here on FFL. From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 5:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show Before Barry and/or one or more of the Thugs decides to pile on, allow me to point out that there is actually only one person from The Peak, Jim, who posts here once in awhile. Doug and Steve have been posting on both forums all along. I don't post on The Peak at all and extremely rarely on FFL (this is my second brief visit since last June). Xeno never left FFL but slums over on The Peak. I think that about covers it. Did you have anyone else in mind? Or were you simply imagining things? And just for the record, I read The Peak occasionally and have never seen anyone congratulating him- or herself on how intelligent or enlightened they really are. I think you must have hallucinated that as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Why are all these blustering blowhards scurrying back to FFL from the Peep? Must be really boring over there with everyone congratulating themselves about how intelligent they really are - oh, and enlightened too. Seemed that they all left FFL in a big huff. So how come they're now still going on and on with the same old fluff? So, ca... ca... can we jus... just get along? You know ... being in Unity and all that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Astrology Science?
Nope. Wrong direction for you, Barry. Does dreaming up new insults for me, do anything to get you closer to the woman of your dreams? Try something else for awhile. Dating, as I suggested. Or renovate your house – do some work that pays off physically. This will boost your self-confidence. Always works for me. You're like the guy that took a cab to the 25th mile of the Hew York marathon, and now runs alongside those who have earned the miles. No street cred. You need to spend some time on some long term relationships, build a family, take up hobbies, build a social circle of friends, purchase and fix up a few homes. Even write a book and get it published. What you are doing here is a waste of both our time and our energy. Try something new. Here's hoping you find a special woman in your life. It's not a matter of being nicer, its a matter of moving on, seeking new horizons, traveling out of the familiar ruts. Based on our comparative histories, you have a ways to go. Better late, than never though. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com You want to assemble a mob so you can make a post about something? Just when you think FFL can't get any weirder.. Publish and be damned. Edg is to writers what ham actors are to the theater. Just wait...after a while when no one encourages him he'll get so desperate to hear his own voice that he'll offer to pay *us* to read his posts. I suppose that will happen. I reckon those enlightened folk over at 'the peak' will demand Xeno gets his comeuppance because he never joined the let's hate Barry and shit all over FFL club. Never mind that Xeno posts some of the most thoughtful and challenging posts here and is never rude or arrogant or condescending about anything. He is judged by the company he keeps and that is that. Call me a skeptic if you like, but does that suggest to you a well developed state of consciousness? How much Marshy-style enlightenment does one need before they can look at themselves with a modicum of self-awareness and say I wonder if the problem is me? So let's all hate Xeno. It's easier than thinking. Not to mention how much easier it is to make hate-posts on FFL under an alias than it is to stay on The_Leak and use your real name. How many fake IDs *has* Jim posted under so far? He *finally* admitted only yesterday to having been enlightened_dawn11 and there must have been a dozen other names that he used on FFL before that. Back in the day, his particular form of crazy was to spin out of control under one of these names, embarrass himself thoroughly, throw a tantrum, and then disappear for a while. Then he'd come back with a whole new posting ID and attempt to start over, never realizing that we could *always* tell it was him because he always hated the same people and never could keep from declaring himself better than everyone else. Now he's *theoretically* over on the nicer forum he created called The_Leak, but it doesn't seem to be holding *his* attention any more than it's holding anyone else's. He has to sneak out at night and get his hate-fix by ragging on the same people on FFL that he did before, just under another made-up alias. It must really suck to be him if he can't even be honest enough to post under his name.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's so hard about leaving a place and actually *leaving* it?
LOL - I love the over the top drama of this goodbye and thanks for all the fish letter, from FIVE YEARS AGO! You can almost hear the violins in the background. I have mentioned to Barry that he is welcome to apply for membership at The Peak, but I haven't heard back yet... :-} :-) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Nothing you would know about it would you? :-) :-) :-) https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/261448 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/261448 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I mean, one of them ran away 11 months ago, the other ran away 6 months ago, and yet they're still here, still pretending they aren't. It's like they're addicted to the sensation of the door hitting them in the ass on their way out. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's so hard about leaving a place and actually *leaving* it?
Wow, counting my posts and everything. Here is more of you obsessing about me - four full pages, single spaced. What a loser.:-) :-) :-) Any time you want to stop slandering me, I'll forget about you faster than a rocketship to the moon. Your choice, my dear. :-) What's always boggled my mind is how many of the people who have *BEEN* kept in line by TM teachers and Governors of the Age of Enlightenment (I mean...just *think* about that term, and that people are *so* brainwashed that they take it for granted and never question it) react. Rather than resenting having been told what they can and cannot do and what they can and cannot think for years by these dweebs, *they aspire to be just like them*. Thus you find people like Jim Flanegin, who never had what it took to become a TM teacher, wanting to become just like them and impose his will on others and force them to live the way *he* wants them to. In a very real sense, this strikes me as the same kind of inherited behavior we see in victims of child abuse. Instead of growing up to hate such abuse, they tend to grow up to become abusers themselves. I find the very existence of The_Leak quite fascinating. It started because one person on FFL (Jim Flanegin) had a grudge against another person on FFL (moi) because he wouldn't buy into his (ludicrous) claims of being enlightened. Mr. Enlightened got angrier and angrier and angrier until one day I used a throwaway phrase to make a point, and Jimbo went fuckin' crazy over it and started slinging libel accusing me of being a pedophile, and encouraging people to sic the authorities on me in the real world. He *also* did the same thing that Doug/Buck is *still* doing, and started appealing to Rick Archer to have me thrown off of FFL, and created whole threads with this in the Subject line, thus smearing my name in search engines. Rick of course ignored him like the idiotic control freak he was acting like. Me, because what he was doing was ILLEGAL and the very definition of libel, I sicced the Dutch cops on his ass. Mr. Enlightened reacted by not only NOT apologizing for the libel, but by running away and forming his own group, where he has now developed a history of banning anyone who dares to say something he doesn't like. It's not just the COWARDICE of all of this that gets me, but the abused trying to become the abuser phenomenon that makes me roll my eyes. After all these years of being indoctrinated by the TM movement, it's understandable that someone with as weak an intellect as Jimbo's can no longer even *conceive* of thinking any way other than he's been told to think. What is less understandable is that he wants to be able to do to other people what was done to him. I guess he finally managed it, by creating a forum on which *HE* has the final word on what anyone can say and what they can't. I hope he's finally happy. That would be a first, in the entire time I've known him on the Internet. I honestly hope that Jimbo and his followers have a grand time over on The_Leak. He gets to finally be the control freak he's always wanted to be, and his followers get to feel superior to those they've left behind. But the bottom line is that they simply couldn't handle dealing with a forum on which people were allowed to express their own ideas as they wanted. They're only comfortable on a forum in which the ways they're *allowed* to interact with others is dictated to them. If anyone is looking to define the legacy of the TM movement, I would suggest that this is it.I did my weekly scan of The_Leak this morning as my Dutch cop friends have advised me to do, just to make sure that the weasel who created the group isn't still spouting libel about me. He doesn't seem to be, so it would seem that even the dumbest people can finally learn if you just hit them over the head with reality enough times. :-)However, scanning a few of the posts quickly just to get a feel for what they talk about over there, it occurs to me that a few of them are still holding onto grudges and fostering the notion that they were pushed out of FFL and forced to create another group because Rick didn't protect them and their interests on FFL. This strikes me as so delusional I felt I should discuss it a bit. First, Fairfield Life was NEVER created for them, meaning as a place of refuge (the actual word that Buck used in one of his latest gripes) for TM True Believers. It's ASTOUNDING that anyone could *possibly* believe that. FFL has -- since Day One -- been the *opposite* of a refuge for TBs. Its charter is right there on the home page for all to see. It is *by design* a place where one has the right to challenge anything and discuss it. FFL was, in fact, created as an *alternative* to the TM movement itself, where you could get yourself excommunicated just for expressing criticism or doubt about the official TM dogma, Maharishi, or even TM itself. How did these bozos who are
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's so hard about leaving a place and actually *leaving* it?
Kinda scary. The guy IS addicted to me. I rarely post about him, and the guy just won't shut up about me. He counts my posts, tracks what the stats are in a forum of mine that he is not a member of, and misrepresents damned near everything I say. Its like a creepy misplaced need for attention - Like the expression, there is no such thing as bad publicity, Barry thinks that, there is no such thing as bad attention...(as long as I am getting attention). Reply: Yes, there is Barry, there is a cost for selling yourself out, by not having anything but a naked desire for others to notice you, no matter what you must do to get their attention. Very interesting that neither you, nor Sal have wives or girlfriends. I think you are both lonely. But you must also consider what it is you are doing, and how you appear, and how far you have to go, in your misplaced needed for attention. Personally, I think you're way over the line, but that is just my opinion. I don't have to live with the consequences of being you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote : So, it's all about Jim. Quoting TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... When you start replying to your own posts on internet forums it's probably time to re-evaluate your life and find something useful to do. Non sequitur. It was already that time back when he was pretending to be a woman named enlightened_dawn11 for several months here on FFL, making 1,036 posts under her name. Non sequitur. A fair and balanced debate should not be gender based - it really doesn't matter if anyone posts a message anonymously as a male or a female, a cross-dresser, gay, lesbian or transgender. Losing track of two of the fake names he hides behind these days and replying to one of them from the other is just more of the same. Non sequitur. Just for the record, we should note that Barry has posted messages on discussion groups under at least three aliases. And remember, this is someone who is demonstrating to us low-lives what it is to be enlightened, Maharishi-style. :-) Non sequitur. And remember, you're the guy that posted using the alias of an old uncle tantra and a pretty turquoisebee, posing as a celibate tantric yogi. It doesn't even make any sense. Barry sounds confused about the Rama-style enlightenment. Is it libertarian or hedonistic or neither or both? Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : LOL - I love the over the top drama of this goodbye and thanks for all the fish letter, from FIVE YEARS AGO! You can almost hear the violins in the background. I have mentioned to Barry that he is welcome to apply for membership at The Peak, but I haven't heard back yet... :-} :-) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Nothing you would know about it would you? :-) :-) :-) https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/261448 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/261448 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I mean, one of them ran away 11 months ago, the other ran away 6 months ago, and yet they're still here, still pretending they aren't. It's like they're addicted to the sensation of the door hitting them in the ass on their way out. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's so hard about leaving a place and actually *leaving* it?
I was just saying that spending your time in this way doesn't help. I have heard some of them are weird, but they must have normal dating sites in the Netherlands. I think you should give them a shot. I think it will boost your self-esteem. This Internet world isn't of much lasting consequence, and rather than spending so much time counting my posts (on The Peak, where you are not a member), I think you would be a different person if you found someone significant in your life, that you could share your hopes and dreams with. But if you mostly watch TV and try to build a following on the Internet, I think you will continue to be lonely and disappointed. Here's to you getting out more! You mentioned mountain climbing awhile ago - Anything come of that? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com When you start replying to your own posts on internet forums it's probably time to re-evaluate your life and find something useful to do. It was already that time back when he was pretending to be a woman named enlightened_dawn11 for several months here on FFL, making 1,036 posts under her name. Wow, counting my posts and everything. (and from another post) Kinda scary. The guy IS addicted to me. I rarely post about him, and the guy just won't shut up about me. He counts my posts... Better late than never, I guess. The Dutch police and Interpol have known for months that Jim was enlightened_dawn11 but this is really the first time he has admitted it himself.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I think former TM teachers fear the C word because of the D word
Here's even more from Barry about me - Kaopectate, anyone?? :-) What's always boggled my mind is how many of the people who have *BEEN* kept in line by TM teachers and Governors of the Age of Enlightenment (I mean...just *think* about that term, and that people are *so* brainwashed that they take it for granted and never question it) react. Rather than resenting having been told what they can and cannot do and what they can and cannot think for years by these dweebs, *they aspire to be just like them*. Thus you find people like Jim Flanegin, who never had what it took to become a TM teacher, wanting to become just like them and impose his will on others and force them to live the way *he* wants them to. In a very real sense, this strikes me as the same kind of inherited behavior we see in victims of child abuse. Instead of growing up to hate such abuse, they tend to grow up to become abusers themselves. I find the very existence of The_Leak quite fascinating. It started because one person on FFL (Jim Flanegin) had a grudge against another person on FFL (moi) because he wouldn't buy into his (ludicrous) claims of being enlightened. Mr. Enlightened got angrier and angrier and angrier until one day I used a throwaway phrase to make a point, and Jimbo went fuckin' crazy over it and started slinging libel accusing me of being a pedophile, and encouraging people to sic the authorities on me in the real world. He *also* did the same thing that Doug/Buck is *still* doing, and started appealing to Rick Archer to have me thrown off of FFL, and created whole threads with this in the Subject line, thus smearing my name in search engines. Rick of course ignored him like the idiotic control freak he was acting like. Me, because what he was doing was ILLEGAL and the very definition of libel, I sicced the Dutch cops on his ass. Mr. Enlightened reacted by not only NOT apologizing for the libel, but by running away and forming his own group, where he has now developed a history of banning anyone who dares to say something he doesn't like. It's not just the COWARDICE of all of this that gets me, but the abused trying to become the abuser phenomenon that makes me roll my eyes. After all these years of being indoctrinated by the TM movement, it's understandable that someone with as weak an intellect as Jimbo's can no longer even *conceive* of thinking any way other than he's been told to think. What is less understandable is that he wants to be able to do to other people what was done to him. I guess he finally managed it, by creating a forum on which *HE* has the final word on what anyone can say and what they can't. I hope he's finally happy. That would be a first, in the entire time I've known him on the Internet. I honestly hope that Jimbo and his followers have a grand time over on The_Leak. He gets to finally be the control freak he's always wanted to be, and his followers get to feel superior to those they've left behind. But the bottom line is that they simply couldn't handle dealing with a forum on which people were allowed to express their own ideas as they wanted. They're only comfortable on a forum in which the ways they're *allowed* to interact with others is dictated to them. If anyone is looking to define the legacy of the TM movement, I would suggest that this is it.I did my weekly scan of The_Leak this morning as my Dutch cop friends have advised me to do, just to make sure that the weasel who created the group isn't still spouting libel about me. He doesn't seem to be, so it would seem that even the dumbest people can finally learn if you just hit them over the head with reality enough times. :-)However, scanning a few of the posts quickly just to get a feel for what they talk about over there, it occurs to me that a few of them are still holding onto grudges and fostering the notion that they were pushed out of FFL and forced to create another group because Rick didn't protect them and their interests on FFL. This strikes me as so delusional I felt I should discuss it a bit. First, Fairfield Life was NEVER created for them, meaning as a place of refuge (the actual word that Buck used in one of his latest gripes) for TM True Believers. It's ASTOUNDING that anyone could *possibly* believe that. FFL has -- since Day One -- been the *opposite* of a refuge for TBs. Its charter is right there on the home page for all to see. It is *by design* a place where one has the right to challenge anything and discuss it. FFL was, in fact, created as an *alternative* to the TM movement itself, where you could get yourself excommunicated just for expressing criticism or doubt about the official TM dogma, Maharishi, or even TM itself. How did these bozos who are now holding court over on The_Leak *MISS THAT*? I mean, that defies belief. HOW did they come to believe that FFL was somehow created for *THEM*, and come to believe that if Rick allowed someone
[FairfieldLife] Re: I think former TM teachers fear the C word because of the D word
I think lurking_reporter might be the same one who pushed Barry''s buttons earlier, but neither one of them is from The Peak. I think you have the lock over here, on acting like immature schoolgirls, so no competition from my forum in that regard. An immature schoolgirl would be the one to invent lurking reporters to begin with. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Absolutely hilarious. Why don't you behave like a bunch of immature schoolgirls on your own site? Because you wouldn't be allowed. Funny really that you have to come over here to indulge your pettiness. It seems the irony is lost on you still... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Whoa look there Steve seventhray--our readers demand and thrive on consistent content; and I dare you to show someone who can match Barry Wright's ability in producing such monotonous, identical content with this methodical frequency and consistency. We are not looking for anything reasoned or objective, neither are our readers. I know I will take flak from FFL lurker reporter community and Barrry for breaking our sacred code of silence--but they surely can't disagree with my assessment. We are united in our admiration for Barry and your sarcastic barbs will do nothing to change that! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Yay LR! I don't think you ever have to worry about Barry running out of this kind of content. This is home for the Barster, his little oyster, where he gets to be a big shot, with his minions. Just remember the TPR (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : We lurker reporters love ya Barry !! Without you we would be nothing, you hear me lurker_reporter. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Here's my theory, which is mine. I have long noticed the vehemence and exaggerated outrage with which long-term TMers (and especially current or former TM teachers) react to having the C word aimed in their direction. This is curious, because many of them use the C word all the time to describe *other* organizations that they see as competing with TM, as in Sure, Scientology is a cult because of its weird beliefs about alien overlords bringing humans to Earth in space ships and then dropping them in volcanos, but when we talk about the Vedic gods and how *they* created the Earth, we're being rational. But the moment that term is applied to TMers -- or horror!, to themselves -- they flip out and go crazy. I think that this *consistent* overreaction to the C word is because most of these former TM teachers' minds are still controlled by the D word. The D word started being a big thing in their lives shortly after they returned from their TM Teacher Training Course. On that course, they had learned the things they were supposed to say in intro lectures, primary among which was, TM is not in any way religious. But also on that course, they had learned the puja, along with its English translation, so they clearly knew not only *that* they were bowing down to Hindu gods every time they performed it, they actually knew these gods' *names*. So now the course is over, and they're giving their first intro lecture and someone asks, Is TM a religion? And they look at the person asking the question and they say No. Absolutely not. And then they repeat the rest of the stock phrases they were taught to parrot whenever this question comes up. Bingo -- the D word. DENIAL. It's *not* IMO as if these people are actually *lying*. They've just learned to compartmentalize things such that when they say TM is not religious they manage to DENY what they know from the translation of the puja, that it is *definitely* religious in nature. And the more often they stand up in public and experience this level of DENIAL of what they really know, and tell stories that some part of them *knows* isn't true, the more cognitive dissonance they feel, and the more guilty that part of them feels about lying. That GUILT is what I think gets triggered when they hear the C word applied to them. Part of them bristles, because being considered a cultist just doesn't fit with how they see themselves. But another part of them -- the part that lied so easily and so smoothly so many times during intro lectures -- realizes that this lying and this level of denial IS part and parcel of being a cultist, so they feel guilty. And that's why they lash out...they *hate* feeling guilty. They want to feel special, and superior, and above all *better* than these people who consider them to be cultists. But that feeling, too marks them as cultists. So that's my theory. It's *just* a theory. I am not presenting it as if it's Truth. So if it pushes your buttons and makes you angry, you might just want to spend a few minutes trying to
Re: [FairfieldLife] Posting Ratios
Funny how those who accomplish the least, are those who criticize the most. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Well now that FFL has been brought a little more under a reforming watchful eye of the owner [Rick] I should hope FFL could be safer and more welcoming for a wider scope of awakened and more enlightened views to return to posting and sharing perspective on FFL without their being driven off by an unkindness of a few intolerant writers resident on FFL. This place could be more enlightening in many more ways for many more people if the yahoo-groups guidelines were respected and more strictly adhered to. The place could use more self-restraint and sustained moderation where people can't control themselves otherwise in character. -JaiGuruYou # Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines, Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. Be courteous. Moderate your content. “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy.” ..the group owner may remove your content — or you — from the group altogether. “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or ranting.” Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group for profit or advantage; to use selfishly for one's own ends. Degrading: causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, or attitude. Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful. Slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation. Profanity: abusive, vulgar, or irreverent. To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild over-vehement way; rave. Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. “Don't be unkind”. We depend on each member to help keep it [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience. If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know by contacting us [..yahoo-groups]. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : That's probably because Jimbo's too busy making up new IDs to post under here on FFL, to make it look as if he isn't really posting here. At least so far this time he isn't pretending to be a woman. :-) From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Posting Ratio From May 21 to this post, FFL has 458% more posts than The Peak. They are discussing crop circles over there.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault
Hey Steve, this is getting complicated...Will you please pass on to Barry that he is making it ever more difficult for his application to me, for membership at The Peak, to be approved? His latest outburst, hysterically accusing me of carefully snipping and concatenating his words was very worrisome, as the entire vomitus came from just two screeds he had written earlier. Someone sure doesn't like to be reminded of his less than rational responses these days...He also tries to excuse the picture I posted about a year ago, not photoshopped, of our very portly ex-pat. I remember one of the last things Barry wrote when I would still respond to him, was, Jim Flanegin is not fucking enlightened!!! Only it was BOLD and ALL CAPS. Really made his point - lol. As my wife says, You can't argue with crazy. Good advice for us all. Good morning. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Barry, you are fuckin' crazy? Admit it, you live for this stuff. Any sane person would simply ignore posters they don't like. But, you? You become fully engaged. Seriously, my friend, try to find something of interest besides Jim Flanegin and The_Peak. No matter what anyone tells you, you do have options. Remember Judy? Well, she doesn't post here because she realized the reality of diminishing returns. You, on the other hand, have no such understanding. Good luck. Oh, sorry about Paris. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Too sad for words. Now we know what an enlightened person -- someone who claims to have achieved the peak in life -- does with his time. He looks up a number of old posts from someone he doesn't like, carefully snips passages from them and concatenates them together to give the impression that they were all written at once in a big wall of words, and posts them in an attempt to further demonize the person he doesn't like. What were the terms a couple of this dweeb's followers posted recently on FFL, claiming that they deplored such tactics? Misrepresentation? Straw man arguments? This appears to be the counterpart of what Mr. Enlightened was doing shortly before he ran away from FFL with his tail between his legs. Back then he spent hours scouring the Internet for photographs of the same person he didn't like, cropped and modified them in Photoshop to make them look more embarrassing than they really were, and then posted them to FFL. Here he's doing the same thing, only with words. For the record -- and for the benefit of his followers on The_Leak, who we all know will be reading this on FFL -- this is a person who claims to be enlightened, demonstrating how he believes an enlightened person should act. Even if you ignore the total lack of ethics involved in this little exercise in lashing out, you have to wonder how someone supposedly enlightened and representing the peak of human achievement has that much hatred in his heart and time on his hands... :-) From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault Will someone please tell Barry that he is welcome to submit his application to me, for membership over at The Peak, at any time. But I do have a small requirement for him first, not reflected in his writing below: mental stability. Thanks. What's always boggled my mind is how many of the people who have *BEEN* kept in line by TM teachers and Governors of the Age of Enlightenment (I mean...just *think* about that term, and that people are *so* brainwashed that they take it for granted and never question it) react. Rather than resenting having been told what they can and cannot do and what they can and cannot think for years by these dweebs, *they aspire to be just like them*. Thus you find people like Jim Flanegin, who never had what it took to become a TM teacher, wanting to become just like them and impose his will on others and force them to live the way *he* wants them to. In a very real sense, this strikes me as the same kind of inherited behavior we see in victims of child abuse. Instead of growing up to hate such abuse, they tend to grow up to become abusers themselves. I find the very existence of The_Leak quite fascinating. It started because one person on FFL (Jim Flanegin) had a grudge against another person on FFL (moi) because he wouldn't buy into his (ludicrous) claims of being enlightened. Mr. Enlightened got angrier and angrier and angrier until one day I used a throwaway phrase to make a point, and Jimbo went fuckin' crazy over it and started slinging libel accusing me of being a pedophile, and encouraging people to sic the authorities on me in the real world. He *also* did the same thing that Doug/Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault
Will someone please tell Barry that he is welcome to submit his application to me, for membership over at The Peak, at any time. But I do have a small requirement for him first, not reflected in his writing below: mental stability. Thanks. What's always boggled my mind is how many of the people who have *BEEN* kept in line by TM teachers and Governors of the Age of Enlightenment (I mean...just *think* about that term, and that people are *so* brainwashed that they take it for granted and never question it) react. Rather than resenting having been told what they can and cannot do and what they can and cannot think for years by these dweebs, *they aspire to be just like them*. Thus you find people like Jim Flanegin, who never had what it took to become a TM teacher, wanting to become just like them and impose his will on others and force them to live the way *he* wants them to. In a very real sense, this strikes me as the same kind of inherited behavior we see in victims of child abuse. Instead of growing up to hate such abuse, they tend to grow up to become abusers themselves. I find the very existence of The_Leak quite fascinating. It started because one person on FFL (Jim Flanegin) had a grudge against another person on FFL (moi) because he wouldn't buy into his (ludicrous) claims of being enlightened. Mr. Enlightened got angrier and angrier and angrier until one day I used a throwaway phrase to make a point, and Jimbo went fuckin' crazy over it and started slinging libel accusing me of being a pedophile, and encouraging people to sic the authorities on me in the real world. He *also* did the same thing that Doug/Buck is *still* doing, and started appealing to Rick Archer to have me thrown off of FFL, and created whole threads with this in the Subject line, thus smearing my name in search engines. Rick of course ignored him like the idiotic control freak he was acting like. Me, because what he was doing was ILLEGAL and the very definition of libel, I sicced the Dutch cops on his ass. Mr. Enlightened reacted by not only NOT apologizing for the libel, but by running away and forming his own group, where he has now developed a history of banning anyone who dares to say something he doesn't like. It's not just the COWARDICE of all of this that gets me, but the abused trying to become the abuser phenomenon that makes me roll my eyes. After all these years of being indoctrinated by the TM movement, it's understandable that someone with as weak an intellect as Jimbo's can no longer even *conceive* of thinking any way other than he's been told to think. What is less understandable is that he wants to be able to do to other people what was done to him. I guess he finally managed it, by creating a forum on which *HE* has the final word on what anyone can say and what they can't. I hope he's finally happy. That would be a first, in the entire time I've known him on the Internet. I honestly hope that Jimbo and his followers have a grand time over on The_Leak. He gets to finally be the control freak he's always wanted to be, and his followers get to feel superior to those they've left behind. But the bottom line is that they simply couldn't handle dealing with a forum on which people were allowed to express their own ideas as they wanted. They're only comfortable on a forum in which the ways they're *allowed* to interact with others is dictated to them. If anyone is looking to define the legacy of the TM movement, I would suggest that this is it. I did my weekly scan of The_Leak this morning as my Dutch cop friends have advised me to do, just to make sure that the weasel who created the group isn't still spouting libel about me. He doesn't seem to be, so it would seem that even the dumbest people can finally learn if you just hit them over the head with reality enough times. :-) However, scanning a few of the posts quickly just to get a feel for what they talk about over there, it occurs to me that a few of them are still holding onto grudges and fostering the notion that they were pushed out of FFL and forced to create another group because Rick didn't protect them and their interests on FFL. This strikes me as so delusional I felt I should discuss it a bit. First, Fairfield Life was NEVER created for them, meaning as a place of refuge (the actual word that Buck used in one of his latest gripes) for TM True Believers. It's ASTOUNDING that anyone could *possibly* believe that. FFL has -- since Day One -- been the *opposite* of a refuge for TBs. Its charter is right there on the home page for all to see. It is *by design* a place where one has the right to challenge anything and discuss it. FFL was, in fact, created as an *alternative* to the TM movement itself, where you could get yourself excommunicated just for expressing criticism or doubt about the official TM dogma, Maharishi, or even TM itself. How did these bozos who are now holding court
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault
as fiction, or non-fiction? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote : Maybe if we break it down, Jim, we can understand what he's talking about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Will someone please tell Barry that he is welcome to submit his application to me, for membership over at The Peak, at any time. But I do have a small requirement for him first, not reflected in his writing below: mental stability. Thanks. What's always boggled my mind is how many of the people who have *BEEN* kept in line by TM teachers and Governors of the Age of Enlightenment (I mean...just *think* about that term, and that people are *so* brainwashed that they take it for granted and never question it) react. Rather than resenting having been told what they can and cannot do and what they can and cannot think for years by these dweebs, *they aspire to be just like them*. Thus you find people like Jim Flanegin, who never had what it took to become a TM teacher, wanting to become just like them and impose his will on others and force them to live the way *he* wants them to. In a very real sense, this strikes me as the same kind of inherited behavior we see in victims of child abuse. Instead of growing up to hate such abuse, they tend to grow up to become abusers themselves. I find the very existence of The_Leak quite fascinating. It started because one person on FFL (Jim Flanegin) had a grudge against another person on FFL (moi) because he wouldn't buy into his (ludicrous) claims of being enlightened. Mr. Enlightened got angrier and angrier and angrier until one day I used a throwaway phrase to make a point, and Jimbo went fuckin' crazy over it and started slinging libel accusing me of being a pedophile, and encouraging people to sic the authorities on me in the real world. He *also* did the same thing that Doug/Buck is *still* doing, and started appealing to Rick Archer to have me thrown off of FFL, and created whole threads with this in the Subject line, thus smearing my name in search engines. Rick of course ignored him like the idiotic control freak he was acting like. Me, because what he was doing was ILLEGAL and the very definition of libel, I sicced the Dutch cops on his ass. Mr. Enlightened reacted by not only NOT apologizing for the libel, but by running away and forming his own group, where he has now developed a history of banning anyone who dares to say something he doesn't like. It's not just the COWARDICE of all of this that gets me, but the abused trying to become the abuser phenomenon that makes me roll my eyes. After all these years of being indoctrinated by the TM movement, it's understandable that someone with as weak an intellect as Jimbo's can no longer even *conceive* of thinking any way other than he's been told to think. What is less understandable is that he wants to be able to do to other people what was done to him. I guess he finally managed it, by creating a forum on which *HE* has the final word on what anyone can say and what they can't. I hope he's finally happy. That would be a first, in the entire time I've known him on the Internet. I honestly hope that Jimbo and his followers have a grand time over on The_Leak. He gets to finally be the control freak he's always wanted to be, and his followers get to feel superior to those they've left behind. But the bottom line is that they simply couldn't handle dealing with a forum on which people were allowed to express their own ideas as they wanted. They're only comfortable on a forum in which the ways they're *allowed* to interact with others is dictated to them. If anyone is looking to define the legacy of the TM movement, I would suggest that this is it. I did my weekly scan of The_Leak this morning as my Dutch cop friends have advised me to do, just to make sure that the weasel who created the group isn't still spouting libel about me. He doesn't seem to be, so it would seem that even the dumbest people can finally learn if you just hit them over the head with reality enough times. :-) However, scanning a few of the posts quickly just to get a feel for what they talk about over there, it occurs to me that a few of them are still holding onto grudges and fostering the notion that they were pushed out of FFL and forced to create another group because Rick didn't protect them and their interests on FFL. This strikes me as so delusional I felt I should discuss it a bit. First, Fairfield Life was NEVER created for them, meaning as a place of refuge (the actual word that Buck used in one of his latest gripes) for TM True Believers. It's ASTOUNDING that anyone could *possibly* believe that. FFL has -- since Day One -- been the *opposite* of a refuge for TBs. Its charter is right there
[FairfieldLife] On visiting FFL from The Peak
No problem. Anyone who thinks that The Peak was started as an *exclusive* alternative to FFL, is not thinking clearly. Any time any members at The Peak want to visit over here, leave an opinion, or say anything at all, we will. This is so childish, the few of you left over here, acting like ladies in a sewing circle when someone from The Peak shows up. If you want an exclusive environment with which to bandy about your ideas, then form your own group. Until then, please keep it to yourself. It is annoying. Thanks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Message for Jim at the Peak
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : From Jim: Thanks for clearing that up, Curtis. I apologize for assuming it was you. Whoever it was, I am glad they are gone, and given what you have to say below, please don't trip over yourself, trying to join The Peak. Perhaps you and Barry can start your own forum - Best of luck! Me: Could have been cleared up before the accusation was posted, but better late than never. You got your dig in on me even though it was manufactured, and now the retraction can be posted on page 17 near the garden club announcements. Oh well, Internet life.. Jim: Oh, its not all fluff over there. Here's a piece I wrote about Barry yesterday. Enjoy! Ha! What nonsense from him. I remember about ten years ago, interacting with Barry, and he was a different person. But, when I recognized around that time, that my experience and my life were meeting the criteria for spiritual liberation, or enlightenment, and decided to come out of the closet about it on FFL, he kinda flipped out, and hasn’t been the same since. In evaluating what he has to say, regarding these endless rants against TM, it suddenly occurred to me that if I were to compare Barry’s REAL life, against mine and those in my social circle, he has accomplished very little. He strikes me as someone who has lived so much of his life in a spiritual cocoon, and wearing his ‘anti-cult’ glasses, now spreads the warning *of his own experience* tirelessly, not realizing that most of us, certainly everyone I know, has managed to simply elude the snares he rails against incessantly. His life’s reality, focused unerringly on turning others away from the spiritual dependency he lived for decades, is so tiny, so restricted, so unsuccessful, compared to the life I live, it becomes something very much about Barry, but with little relevance to me. He has made up his mind long ago about those who have faithfully practiced TM, and the notion that someone has accomplished the goal, in spite of his judgments and assumptions, drives him mad. It is just not at all my problem, and something he will have to resolve on his own. Or not. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Message for Jim at the Peak
From Jim: Thanks for clearing that up, Curtis. I apologize for assuming it was you. Whoever it was, I am glad they are gone, and given what you have to say below, please don't trip over yourself, trying to join The Peak. Perhaps you and Barry can start your own forum - Best of luck! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : A few times a year I do a search on my name here and at the Peak. I found this entry by Jim from back in January: Jim: PS Before you get too carried away with the whole boot me meme, I have banned one person, Curtis, who tried to sneak on under false pretenses, just to cause trouble. His alias was cardozy or something. Other than that, everyone who has applied, has been accepted, and no one has been booted. Yes, everyone, no exceptions. Me: I have never applied for the Peak under my own or any other name. I suspect that Jim used his intuition rather than any actual facts to make this claim. But on the lighter side someone got canned from his tiny kingdom and was accused of being someone else by an enlightened guy! Methinks he may have blown out a possible follower due to paranoid delusions. Jim, you and I have nothing to discuss ever so I don't need to join your group. But I hope you have the integrity to print a retraction for your baseless accusation. And if someone here was using that name I hope you will come forward to bust Jim on his false accusation because if I know Jim, this will start a round of the infamous doubledown routine. I know it is appealing for Jim to believe that his group is so desirable that I would take this trouble. But if anyone with a brain actually looks a my posting pattern, I own everything I write, and have never (unlike the slippery Jim) posted as anyone else from my earliest days on AMT. Not only falsely imagining that it was me, Jim compounds his misguided self confidence by claiming to know about the motive of the person who used that name. I am always a fan of an example that shows why the subjective means of gaining knowledge is a farce. Oddly it is the quest for subjective confidence in one's knowledge that often draws people to spiritual groups. It makes life so much easier not to have to worry about messy facts!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Thanks, Buck. Just doing what comes naturally and Jai Guru Dev to you too! Yep, this world is only going to change if we change it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Dear ReVerseArrow; tonite they are giving Maharishi Awards in celebration to distinguished citizens of the larger community at the Spring Celebration on campus. I have a couple of friends in the community who are receiving Maharishi Awards tonite. I should think that you are deserving too of such recognition given both the breadth of your advanced state of 'number one' spiritual experience and your easy ability to speak and write to it by contrast of so much speculation that gets written on FFL. Yet, not only your resilience here in the coarse and malignant crossfire of FFL but yours as a straight arrow on target here amidsts the residual of FFL deserves recognition at the level of a Maharishi Award. Thank you. I appreciate your participation when it comes here. It seems always clarifying. I do feel the disrespect of a pernicious unkindness by the few that has overtaken FFL as that you endured here on Rick's list forcing you even to leave FFL on moral ground was reprehensible and Rick should have given you much more protection from it. But a recognition of your longer contribution to what was FFL should not go without acknowledgment. Thank you for your service. JaiGuruYou, -Buck in Fairfield ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Hi Barry, Jim Flanegin here. I appreciate your ability to fantasize (as usual), though this post wasn't from me. I have said before I have no desire to interact with you, *ever again*, and I meant it. Have a nice day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Sounds to me as if Jim Flanegin, concerned that the number of posts made each day in the last week on The_Leak is less than half of the number of registered members, and that the only reason the number of people actually making these posts is greater than 8 this week is that Rick posted a couple of times, suddenly realizes that he is not getting nearly the amount of attention he needs. So he reads FFL and realizes that once again Barry is making valid points of criticism about Maharishi and the TM movement that none of the TM supporters there can refute. Of course a couple of die-hard cultists have piled on to him to try to demonize him so that lurkers don't pay attention to the fact that what he's saying is fact, but that doesn't seem to be working. Horrors. So Jimbo realizes he has to come to the rescue. Because *he* can't refute the facts that Barry's been posting either (because...duh...they're facts), the only thing he can do is make up slander about Barry, the way he used to before he ran away from FFL with his tail between his legs. But, he realizes, he can't even do *that* any more because everyone will know it's him, and will know that even *he* is so bored with the trivial mind-pablum that passes for discussion on The_Leak that he has to come back to FFL to get his throw-some-nastiness-around fix. Jimbo realizes that to pull this off he's going to have to create a new ID, and spends 15 whole minutes trying to decide whether to make this one male or female. Finally, deciding that he *still* hasn't gotten over the embarrassment of pretending to be a woman called enlightened_dawn11 for months, he decides on the name ak_ak, because that's the sound his throat makes involuntarily every time he realizes that someone's getting more attention than he is. He adds a random number to the end of ak_ak and lets fly, making up stuff he imagines about Barry's day. Then, spent, he goes back to *his* day, which consists of sitting in front of his computer, staring at the screen, clicking Return every 30 seconds, saying, Why hasn't anyone said anything about me yet? Meanwhile, Barry dashes off this post in a couple of minutes to make him feel better, because someone finally has. :-) :-) :-) From: ak_ak_0828 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 11:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world 12:00 pm - 05:00 am A restless dreamy sleepy stupor, imaginary battles with Richard Steve on FFL (now that the likes of Judy, Robin, Emily, Ann, Jim, Ravi aren't around). Lurker reporter interviews with a gloating Barry on TM and cults 06:00 - 7:00 am Barry rudely awakened from bed, need to drop Maya off at school and walk the dogs to earn free rent 07:00 - 09:00 am Morning routine and then read FFL and write about fantasy trips to the coffee shop and some hot waitress chick 10:00 - 12:00 Watch movies with generous forwarding so he has something interesting to write about on FFL to impress the likes of noozguru, salyavin, MJ 12:00 - 02:00 Lunch nap, chores,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world
Hi Barry, Jim Flanegin here. I appreciate your ability to fantasize (as usual), though this post wasn't from me. I have said before I have no desire to interact with you, *ever again*, and I meant it. Have a nice day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Sounds to me as if Jim Flanegin, concerned that the number of posts made each day in the last week on The_Leak is less than half of the number of registered members, and that the only reason the number of people actually making these posts is greater than 8 this week is that Rick posted a couple of times, suddenly realizes that he is not getting nearly the amount of attention he needs. So he reads FFL and realizes that once again Barry is making valid points of criticism about Maharishi and the TM movement that none of the TM supporters there can refute. Of course a couple of die-hard cultists have piled on to him to try to demonize him so that lurkers don't pay attention to the fact that what he's saying is fact, but that doesn't seem to be working. Horrors. So Jimbo realizes he has to come to the rescue. Because *he* can't refute the facts that Barry's been posting either (because...duh...they're facts), the only thing he can do is make up slander about Barry, the way he used to before he ran away from FFL with his tail between his legs. But, he realizes, he can't even do *that* any more because everyone will know it's him, and will know that even *he* is so bored with the trivial mind-pablum that passes for discussion on The_Leak that he has to come back to FFL to get his throw-some-nastiness-around fix. Jimbo realizes that to pull this off he's going to have to create a new ID, and spends 15 whole minutes trying to decide whether to make this one male or female. Finally, deciding that he *still* hasn't gotten over the embarrassment of pretending to be a woman called enlightened_dawn11 for months, he decides on the name ak_ak, because that's the sound his throat makes involuntarily every time he realizes that someone's getting more attention than he is. He adds a random number to the end of ak_ak and lets fly, making up stuff he imagines about Barry's day. Then, spent, he goes back to *his* day, which consists of sitting in front of his computer, staring at the screen, clicking Return every 30 seconds, saying, Why hasn't anyone said anything about me yet? Meanwhile, Barry dashes off this post in a couple of minutes to make him feel better, because someone finally has. :-) :-) :-) From: ak_ak_0828 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 11:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world Barry Wright's nar-ci-fan-ta-stun-ted world 12:00 pm - 05:00 am A restless dreamy sleepy stupor, imaginary battles with Richard Steve on FFL (now that the likes of Judy, Robin, Emily, Ann, Jim, Ravi aren't around). Lurker reporter interviews with a gloating Barry on TM and cults 06:00 - 7:00 am Barry rudely awakened from bed, need to drop Maya off at school and walk the dogs to earn free rent 07:00 - 09:00 am Morning routine and then read FFL and write about fantasy trips to the coffee shop and some hot waitress chick 10:00 - 12:00 Watch movies with generous forwarding so he has something interesting to write about on FFL to impress the likes of noozguru, salyavin, MJ 12:00 - 02:00 Lunch nap, chores, cleaning for free rent and food. 02:00 - 4:00 pm Pick up Maya, walk dogs, clean house to earn free rent 04:00 pm - 10:00 pm Write on FFL ranting against TM, Scientology, Robin, Judy, calling Richard, Steve and others narcissists and his interesting sojourns around Amsterdam. 10:00 - 12:00 pm Read random articles on Internet and Facebook so he can impress the likes of noozguru, salyavin, MJ 12:00 pm Barry exhausted, drifting to sleep. Another day ends.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Safe posting on FFL for 2015
Oh shut up, you big blowhard. I am so tired of every time I show you to be the anti-social, sexually confused, mean spirited, low life that you are, out trot the ego-excuses, and plain bullshit, that you make up in reply. No, Barry Wright, you live with what you did, take responsibility for it, and stop the pity party. You frequently act like an asshole, and apparently can't take it, when it blows right back in your face. You are immature, and in great denial. To say I am the crazy one, after threatening at least three people here with being reported to the Dutch Police and Interpol, because it was YOU, who used the phrase, Maharishi butt-fucking babies, is such a joke, as Emily and Steve pointed out to you, several times yesterday. No one else said it. YOU SAID IT. Now fuck off, and shut up, you crazy old fart. And stay away from the kiddies. I am sure Roland and Lauren are pretty freaked out if they have been reading about you on here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Thanks for the comments. Naturally, I agree. Jim has turned into Willytex, this Terminator-like machine intent on getting the person he hates. It's driven him to read two whole books looking for material to diss me with, it's led him to scouring the Internet looking for photos he can doctor to make me look bad, and it's led him to most recently meeting the legal definitions of slander. He's *admitted* on this forum that he doesn't really believe that I'm a pedophile, but he keeps posting saying I'm one anyway -- that is the very essence of malice aforethought. I really don't know what happened to Jim to make him this crazy, but I for one am really tired of him taking his insanity out on me. He stalked off the playground, screaming, If you don't do what I want I'm going to go and start my own game. And now that he's got it, it's not enough, and he has to come here to get his gotta get Barry fix. I hope Rick does the right thing and boots his ass off of FFL, so that he is forced to live with the repercussions of being a drama queen. From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 5:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Safe posting on FFL for 2015 I agree with this. I think Jim should be removed from FFL for obsessively bringing up this point of his, distorting the original context, and because Barry is here under his real name, this is way over the line. This could reflect badly on his part time business contacts now that he is no longer working for IBM. Jim is being slanderous. I think Jim should be summarily dismissed from FFL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Jim's post is a serious breach of the FFL guidelines and provides a chilling precedent for online slander meant to cause harm to someone in their real life. I hope anyone who agrees will first delete the slanderous message in the post before commenting. This is way over the line. I almost commented when Jim used a heading with an inflammatory statement just as Nabbie did in his little FU to FFL when he left. I believe it was maliciously intended to get the newsgroup in trouble with Yahoo. But this post is clearly meant to hurt Barry in his real life with a phrase taken out of context. The original context of Barry's hyperbole was to show something so universally considered heinous, that no one would miss his point that people in a cult mindset can overlook what is WRONG. In context it refers to cultural norms and reinforces them concerning child welfare. The intended use was obvious. For Jim to take it out of its context as if it revealed something else is a chilling use of misinterpretation to hurt someone's reputation online. Having been he victim of this myself here I understand how helpless you can feel when this is going on. I needed Rick's help and I got it, and I greatly appreciate that support for my free speech in safety here. I also want to comment on this misuse of a serious topic for a personal vendetta online. It is the lowest form of a get someone at any cost mentality to use child welfare as a pawn in a gotchya game online. By trivializing it by using someone's statement out of context, we add to the static that obscures real harm. People become numb to the accusation when it is misused this way. And in that maliciously generated cacophony, we miss real harm done to real kids by real bad people. I am against Jim's misappropriation of this topic on these grounds also. To pretend his malicious misuse of what Barry wrote is in support of child welfare is the sickest kind of cynicism. Hiding behind this topic to do harm to someone else here is disgusting. Finally, both Buck and Jim have demonstrated that all their faux objections to contentious exchanges here are just that. They are both addicted to conflict online and must
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Rick -- please read before Jim lands you in legal trouble
You show me the line and I will agree with you, Barry Wright. I am raising the possibility of an issue. Are you overreacting again? Yes, we think so. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Point of order, Rick. Recently you FINALLY got rid of Richard Williams, for the crime of using someone's real name on Fairfield Life, while trying to slander them and ruin their reputations in the real world. It seems to me that Jim Flanegin has just stepped over that same line. What are you going to do about it? From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 2:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] My concern for Barry being around children - An analysis Barry has been around FFL for many years. He has also freely insulted Maharishi for many years. However, this was always done in terms of Maharishi's supposed dalliances with adult women. Barry had a field day with it, living by himself in France and Spain. However, a couple of years ago, Barry informed us all that he would be moving into a mixed household, including a two year old girl. Keep in mind that the other adults are sexually involved with each other, and also run a business. This leaves Uncle Barry ample time for baby sitting. My concern is the coincidence of Barry now living with a small child, a girl of three, and suddenly, inexplicably revising his insults of Maharishi, to now include a reference to sex with children; Maharishi butt-fucking babies. Am I making too much of this? I don't think so. The other thing of great concern, is Barry's reaction to this. Far from being chagrined at this monstrous expression, he has gone on the offensive, pretending to turn in anyone who takes offense, to the police and Interpol. A bit of overreaction, don't you think? As if he has a lot to hide, and protect. Reminded me of Bill Cosby, hiring an army of investigators to dig up dirt and discredit his accusers, those he drugged and raped. I don't make a secret of my dislike of Barry. But I think there may be a more serious issue here, and from the way Barry is acting, it is getting worse, not better.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Safe posting on FFL for 2015
Right on. Barry needs to watch himself around the children. His lack of accountability, and ridiculous threats are a huge red flag. Why there are those who enable him this way, I'll never know. I don't believe for a minute this was some sort of 'fealty test', for followers of Maharishi. This was an attempt to put people down as Barry has been doing all his life, and yet, his choice of subject matter may reveal other tendencies in him, that he tries mightily to keep hidden. I think we can count on him pulling his cowardice number now, and disappearing for awhile.:-) Whew. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emily.mae50@... wrote : GeezusBW is the one who wrote those three wordsheinous and illegalthe fact that those three words were even able to be generated in his consciousness is disturbing and disturbed ALL, is my guess, on some level, except those that are unable to *feel.* And, now for some reason, it's the person who most vociferously opposed those three words and the person who wrote them in writing that is being attacked? Get a grip, get real. BW can issue an apology at any time; it isn't too late, yet, for him to take a little accountability for himself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Two issues. Our opinions about what people want to post about here, and a clear line of safety concerning certain content meant to hurt people's reputation offline. Calling someone an assclown is an entirely different insult than accusing someone of illegal activity. And it is even more critical for a topic like child welfare where people can lose their rational minds and go after someone ala Salem witch trial. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I think that people who continued slinging insults at Jim, even after he'd left, demonstrate just as much addiction to conflict online. BOTH sides need to get the fuck over each other. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Jim's post is a serious breach of the FFL guidelines and provides a chilling precedent for online slander meant to cause harm to someone in their real life. I hope anyone who agrees will first delete the slanderous message in the post before commenting. This is way over the line. I almost commented when Jim used a heading with an inflammatory statement just as Nabbie did in his little FU to FFL when he left. I believe it was maliciously intended to get the newsgroup in trouble with Yahoo. But this post is clearly meant to hurt Barry in his real life with a phrase taken out of context. The original context of Barry's hyperbole was to show something so universally considered heinous, that no one would miss his point that people in a cult mindset can overlook what is WRONG. In context it refers to cultural norms and reinforces them concerning child welfare. The intended use was obvious. For Jim to take it out of its context as if it revealed something else is a chilling use of misinterpretation to hurt someone's reputation online. Having been he victim of this myself here I understand how helpless you can feel when this is going on. I needed Rick's help and I got it, and I greatly appreciate that support for my free speech in safety here. I also want to comment on this misuse of a serious topic for a personal vendetta online. It is the lowest form of a get someone at any cost mentality to use child welfare as a pawn in a gotchya game online. By trivializing it by using someone's statement out of context, we add to the static that obscures real harm. People become numb to the accusation when it is misused this way. And in that maliciously generated cacophony, we miss real harm done to real kids by real bad people. I am against Jim's misappropriation of this topic on these grounds also. To pretend his malicious misuse of what Barry wrote is in support of child welfare is the sickest kind of cynicism. Hiding behind this topic to do harm to someone else here is disgusting. Finally, both Buck and Jim have demonstrated that all their faux objections to contentious exchanges here are just that. They are both addicted to conflict online and must leave their other forum to cause trouble here. While I find Bucks constant baiting and trolling obnoxious, it does not violate the reasonable terms of use here. Jim's post did. It makes this an unsafe place to post our opinions if people are allowed to make such real life damaging accusations based on nothing but their own bile and misrepresentation. I hope this forum will be safe place to post in 2015. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Rick -- Barry is wetting his pants, can't find the Interpol phone #
Funny how Cordozo, er, Curtis, stood up for Barry immediately. Great minds think alike, I guess.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emily.mae50@... wrote : You know, I am willing to grant BW the benefit of the explanatory context for the three words that he put together. Curtis has explained this for him in a clear and concise manner; Alex understands this to be the case as well. I am also, interestingly enough, practicing the idea of being transparent, in the sense of allowing things to pass through one (after all, I do have a teenage daughter who rejects/opposes me right now in everything, no matter how compassionately I try and approach her) to reduce reactivity for one and for two, not lock in and get all obsessive about whatever it is, requiring a bunch of effort to let go at that point. However, I cannot even IMAGINE a conversation where those three words would cross my lips or fingertips ever, for any reason whatsoever. None - for no reason. Horrifying, they are. I would have thought, personally, that BW would have issued an apology for putting those three words on paper and subjecting those who read this forum to them. But no, he doubled down and tripled down and moved into a massive ego-driven response. Uck and more Uck. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : You show me the line and I will agree with you, Barry Wright. I am raising the possibility of an issue. Are you overreacting again? Yes, we think so. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Point of order, Rick. Recently you FINALLY got rid of Richard Williams, for the crime of using someone's real name on Fairfield Life, while trying to slander them and ruin their reputations in the real world. It seems to me that Jim Flanegin has just stepped over that same line. What are you going to do about it? From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 2:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] My concern for Barry being around children - An analysis Barry has been around FFL for many years. He has also freely insulted Maharishi for many years. However, this was always done in terms of Maharishi's supposed dalliances with adult women. Barry had a field day with it, living by himself in France and Spain. However, a couple of years ago, Barry informed us all that he would be moving into a mixed household, including a two year old girl. Keep in mind that the other adults are sexually involved with each other, and also run a business. This leaves Uncle Barry ample time for baby sitting. My concern is the coincidence of Barry now living with a small child, a girl of three, and suddenly, inexplicably revising his insults of Maharishi, to now include a reference to sex with children; Maharishi butt-fucking babies. Am I making too much of this? I don't think so. The other thing of great concern, is Barry's reaction to this. Far from being chagrined at this monstrous expression, he has gone on the offensive, pretending to turn in anyone who takes offense, to the police and Interpol. A bit of overreaction, don't you think? As if he has a lot to hide, and protect. Reminded me of Bill Cosby, hiring an army of investigators to dig up dirt and discredit his accusers, those he drugged and raped. I don't make a secret of my dislike of Barry. But I think there may be a more serious issue here, and from the way Barry is acting, it is getting worse, not better.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My concern for Barry being around children - An analysis
Yes, I am astonished that anyone is bent out of shape by it. Barry is once again turning himself into a pretzel. His roomies, the mom and dad, should read his initial insult, and be the judge of what he meant. It is easy for you to say he meant this or that. I am simply going on what he SAID, not what he may or may not have meant. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I think you are making too much of this. The comment was purely hypothetical, and the language was so strongly colorful to an offensive extreme in order to make a point about the degree to which true believers are willingly blind. I'm astounded at how bent out of shape people are getting in reaction to it, but the result is that two groups of people who are much better off not interacting with each other have, for the most part, gone their separate ways. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Barry has been around FFL for many years. He has also freely insulted Maharishi for many years. However, this was always done in terms of Maharishi's supposed dalliances with adult women. Barry had a field day with it, living by himself in France and Spain. However, a couple of years ago, Barry informed us all that he would be moving into a mixed household, including a two year old girl. Keep in mind that the other adults are sexually involved with each other, and also run a business. This leaves Uncle Barry ample time for baby sitting. My concern is the coincidence of Barry now living with a small child, a girl of three, and suddenly, inexplicably revising his insults of Maharishi, to now include a reference to sex with children; Maharishi butt-fucking babies. Am I making too much of this? I don't think so. The other thing of great concern, is Barry's reaction to this. Far from being chagrined at this monstrous expression, he has gone on the offensive, pretending to turn in anyone who takes offense, to the police and Interpol. A bit of overreaction, don't you think? As if he has a lot to hide, and protect. Reminded me of Bill Cosby, hiring an army of investigators to dig up dirt and discredit his accusers, those he drugged and raped. I don't make a secret of my dislike of Barry. But I think there may be a more serious issue here, and from the way Barry is acting, it is getting worse, not better.
[FairfieldLife] My concern for Barry being around children - An analysis
Barry has been around FFL for many years. He has also freely insulted Maharishi for many years. However, this was always done in terms of Maharishi's supposed dalliances with adult women. Barry had a field day with it, living by himself in France and Spain. However, a couple of years ago, Barry informed us all that he would be moving into a mixed household, including a two year old girl. Keep in mind that the other adults are sexually involved with each other, and also run a business. This leaves Uncle Barry ample time for baby sitting. My concern is the coincidence of Barry now living with a small child, a girl of three, and suddenly, inexplicably revising his insults of Maharishi, to now include a reference to sex with children; Maharishi butt-fucking babies. Am I making too much of this? I don't think so. The other thing of great concern, is Barry's reaction to this. Far from being chagrined at this monstrous expression, he has gone on the offensive, pretending to turn in anyone who takes offense, to the police and Interpol. A bit of overreaction, don't you think? As if he has a lot to hide, and protect. Reminded me of Bill Cosby, hiring an army of investigators to dig up dirt and discredit his accusers, those he drugged and raped. I don't make a secret of my dislike of Barry. But I think there may be a more serious issue here, and from the way Barry is acting, it is getting worse, not better.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry's Interpol and Dutch Police fantasy
Excuse me, Alex? I kept my mouth shut as insults were slung freely around here for a month. If I want to get over here, and even things out, that is my right. If you and Rick do not like it, then please ban me, as I did for Cordozy. I am OK with you exercising your power as moderator. Your phony appeal for calm doesn't mean anything, when you and Rick allow the kind of language and trolling on here, that has made this place a cesspit. PS Thanks for inadvertently reminding everyone of Barry's ridiculous notion that he can report anyone to the authorities, for taking umbrage at his expression about, Maharishi butt-fucking babies. Wouldn't be such a big deal if he didn't regularly babysit a three year old girl. I am sorry everyone else here takes such an expression in stride, but that is their problem, and not mine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Time to let it go, Jim. You didn't like Cardoza stirring up shit on your group, so you immediately booted him off and deleted his post. I don't wield that kind of power on FFL because I am merely Rick's lowly henchman, but I'd appreciate it if you didn't come here just to stir up shit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : [snip]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry's Interpol and Dutch Police fantasy
LOL - No, the ass clown, in this case is claiming a delusional relationship with the dutch police and Interpol. Interpol, for God's sake. Do you know what they would be saying about Barry, is he HAD contacted them?? What a fool and an idiot. I can see it now: Barry: I'd like to report a slander. Interpol: Oh? Barry: Yes, I referred to Maharishi butt-fucking babies, and someone is saying I am sick and unhealthy for saying so. Interpol: And YOU want to report THEM?? Barry: That is correct. Interpol: Very good, we take this sort of thing very seriously. What is your name, address, and contact info? Barry: But don't you want to know their name, my enemy's name? Interpol: No, thank you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : LOL. Thanks for reposting all of this. It's pretty classic -- Jim transitions from enlightened poseur claiming to be all sweetness and light back to being on Interpol's cyberterrorist watch list in one day, all while trying to hide all of it from the people he's suckered into reading The_Leak. :-) Just to remind folks of the sequence, Jimbo *started* the argument by making a post on FFL trying to lure new sycophants to his group, a place they could chat without the over the top insanity. Someone called him on this obvious attempt to insult FFLers and start a fight, so he quickly deleted his original post and reposted it without that phrase. A couple of people (myself and aryavazhi) poked gentle fun at him for his cluelessness, while someone else suggested his new FFL-only screen name (reverse_archery) was itself a cloaked dig at Rick Archer. NEXT, however, *with no further provocation*, Jim replied by re-launching his Barry is a pedophile slander. signing off with I won't be commenting further on here. I responded by notifying Jim that I'd notified the Dutch police of his illegal activities once again. He went ballistic, lost control the way he used to, and made almost a dozen more postshere on FFL, each one as one person put it dripping with vitriol and crazy talk. WHILE he's doing all of this on FFL, back over on peaceful and moderated The_Leak, he's congratulating everyone for having selected *his* forum as the go-to location. NOT A WORD about all of the shit he's been slinging back over on FFL, while pretending to be all enlightened and wonderful on The_Leak. I wondered whether anyone would call him on this, and fortunately someone did, as the posts cited below from Cardozo indicate. Jim is busted. He reacts by lying about who started the nastiness on FFL, and by deleting Cardozy's posts. There you have it -- enlightenment in action. What an ass clown. :-) From: jamesalan735@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 7:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL vs The Peak I guess I'm not the only one seeing the disparity in tone between Jim's posts on The Peak and his post on FFL https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/conversations/messages/1089 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/conversations/messages/1089 Cardozy and his insults have been deleted. Know thy audience. Yes, I said all of those things, in context, as a well provoked response on FFL. I took serious offense at what was being said, and responded in kind. I began this forum as an alternative to the cesspit over there, and plan to keep it that way. If anyone has any further questions, let's get them out of the way, now - Otherwise, I'd just as soon continue into a brighter New Year! ---In the_p...@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : cardozo, so what you are saying is that Barry slings shit at Jim, and Jim returns the favor? Is that the extent of it? that Barry's raison d'etre, by his own admission, is pushing people's buttons, and that some people will decide that what he really is, is sort of an ass, and that he runs the risk of getting push back on the misrepresentations he puts out there? Yea, it gets ugly sometimes. So, what else is new. ---In the_p...@yahoogroups.com, cardozo2015@... wrote : Well, that sounds fine and good. But here’s a small sampling of what your moderator is continuing to post on FairfieldLife, literally at the same time today that he was thanking all of you for joining this forum where ‘the wonder, integration and knowledge of life can be shared and appreciated.’ I hold a US Government clearance (Confidential - one step below Top Secret), and have also been investigated by the FBI to get same. They didn't have a problem with me. Stop your bullshit, stay away from the kiddies, and Shut The Fuck Up. :-) That sure blew up in your face, didn't it? LOL. What a putz. Keep those greasy mitts of yours away from the kids, OK? That
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL vs The Peak
This may come as quite a shock to you, jamesalan - Wait for it...wait for it...I changed my mind. I am not sure you can get your head around that concept, but if you meditate on it awhile, the truth will eventually dawn. See, I am not like my current object of derision - He thrives on conformity and shaming. Not me. We are both quite different. Hope I answered your question, and your deep concern. :-) Happy New Year! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jamesalan735@... wrote : Geez, Jim, what's going on with you? Seriously. You left FFL with a post titled 'Rick: Until Barry is removed, Goodbye', and saying that FFL 'was no longer a healthy environment for anyone to participate in'. You founded 'The Peak' which you wanted to be 'without the over the top insanity' that you perceived on FFL. The comments you've posted there cannot be faulted in terms of tone or content. Now, exactly to the day one month after you left, you're back on FFL, and you've posted 9 messages on FFL today, compared to just one to your own group. The messages you post in The Peak seem to fit the environment you wanted to create for yourself and others, but most of the 9 messages you posted here today are dripping with vitriol and crazy talk.
Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL vs The Peak
Yes, I am THAT powerful Barry - LOL. Must be because I am enlightened. Now let's immediately discount your weak minded inability to stay focused on anything. Did you know that nearly 90% of the posts here, mention or refer to my new group? And less that 10% of the posts on The Peak mention FFL? Who is obsessed with whom? I sure hope you have curbed your babysitting duties. I don't think you are a pedophile, but possibly have your mind wandering in unhealthy areas. Watch your step around the kiddies, and I hope that Maya's parents keep a watch on you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: jamesalan735@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Geez, Jim, what's going on with you? Seriously. You left FFL with a post titled 'Rick: Until Barry is removed, Goodbye', and saying that FFL 'was no longer a healthy environment for anyone to participate in'. You founded 'The Peak' which you wanted to be 'without the over the top insanity' that you perceived on FFL. The comments you've posted there cannot be faulted in terms of tone or content. Now, exactly to the day one month after you left, you're back on FFL, and you've posted 9 messages on FFL today, compared to just one to your own group. The messages you post in The Peak seem to fit the environment you wanted to create for yourself and others, but most of the 9 messages you posted here today are dripping with vitriol and crazy talk. At least it's clear now who actually *created* the toxic environment at FFL he used to complain about. It's been a pretty good month without him and his ilk around, but it took him only a few hours to bring back the crazy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Subscribe to The Peak - An alternative to FFL
Rick and I have known each other since the late 1970's - If he had truly been offended, he would not have subscribed to my new forum, The Peak. I can appreciate your sensitivity, though you expressed no such qualms, when Turq made a reference to Maharishi butt-fucking babies. His exact words, a month ago. This, along with the knowledge that Turq now lives with, and often babysits, a two year old girl, and had never used language like that before, really got to *my* sensitivities, so much so that I started my own forum. Apparently a lot of people agreed with my sensitivities, too. I guess we are all sensitive in different areas, eh? Anyway if you grow too sensitive for FFL, come on over the The Peak, and let's talk about it.:-) I thought your comment merited a response, though I won't be commenting further on here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jamesalan735@... wrote : Maybe I'm being a bit too sensitive, but the reverse_archery moniker suggests to me a cheap shot at Rick Archer which isn't needed.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Subscribe to The Peak - An alternative to FFL
LOL - Yes, please tell me *exactly* whom you have supposedly reported me to. I hold a US Government clearance (Confidential - one step below Top Secret), and have also been investigated by the FBI to get same. They didn't have a problem with me. Stop your bullshit, stay away from the kiddies, and Shut The Fuck Up, Barry. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For the record, Jim, the Netherlands police and Interpol have been notified again of your renewed stalking attempts and breaches of Dutch law. They have now notified authorities in the U.S. You are now on record as having made these slanderous remarks on *two different occasions*, the second time after having been warned that these slanderous statements are in breach of Dutch law. Congratulations -- all of this boosts you to a higher level of surveillance. You may now rest assured that pretty much *everything* you write to the Internet from now on will be scrutinized. Too bad you couldn't let your obsession with me go. First reading two entire books in an attempt to find stuff you could post to slander me. Second, stalking me all over the Internet to try to find photos of me that you could crop and add derogatory captions to. Third, making up all of these claims about me, based on me using a throwaway phrase about a dead spiritual teacher no one seems to care about. Maybe you should go back to The_Leak before your brains leak completely out. :-) Oh, and by the way, since you seem to have forgotten about it, when you *first* stalked off in a snit from Fairfield Life, in an attempt to threaten Rick into getting rid of me, you claimed you wouldn't post here again as long as I was still here: Rick, I am sorry, but a forum where anyone is allowed to suggest sexual violence AGAINST children, is not someplace I want to be. I am truly sorry things have degenerated to this point. I am local to the Yahoo corporation, and am considering a detailed notice to the Yahoo administrators, including screen names, of this current activity. Barry makes one excuse after another, about using this foul, sexually perverted, and unbalanced voice, and is clearly not well. This is no longer a healthy environment for anyone to participate in. I am all for differing opinions on here, but you have allowed one individual's mental illness to co-opt what could be a fun place to hang out, and I guess I am one of the casualties. See ya!! So in addition to being so obsessed with someone you don't like that you're willing to break the law and have law enforcement officials in three countries looking into your activities, you're willing to LIE as you stalk out the door and have it hit you in the ass. You sure are some great role model for enlightenment, Jimbo. Up after midnight, STILL obsessing about Barry, and STILL so desperate for attention that you're trying to get people from FFL to come visit your lame-o forum. Sure must be tough to be you, but if I were you I'd stick to talking about Newage bullshit and making false claims about your enlightenment on The_Leak and stay away from FFL. Every time you come here you get yourself into more trouble. From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 9:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Subscribe to The Peak - An alternative to FFL Rick and I have known each other since the late 1970's - If he had truly been offended, he would not have subscribed to my new forum, The Peak. I can appreciate your sensitivity, though you expressed no such qualms, when Turq made a reference to Maharishi butt-fucking babies. His exact words, a month ago. This, along with the knowledge that Turq now lives with, and often babysits, a two year old girl, and had never used language like that before, really got to *my* sensitivities, so much so that I started my own forum. Apparently a lot of people agreed with my sensitivities, too. I guess we are all sensitive in different areas, eh? Anyway if you grow too sensitive for FFL, come on over the The Peak, and let's talk about it.:-) I thought your comment merited a response, though I won't be commenting further on here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jamesalan735@... wrote : Maybe I'm being a bit too sensitive, but the reverse_archery moniker suggests to me a cheap shot at Rick Archer which isn't needed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Subscribe to The Peak - An alternative to FFL
Incorrect. My point is that when someone suddenly begins using that language, while also newly having access to children, it raises a red flag, and it would with anyone, whether it was Barry Wright saying these horrid things, or even his mom, who was probably a nice lady. As a friend of mine said, Who even thinks that way? Yes, the expression is deeply disturbing, and I only mention it to underscore this issue. How you and others can defend this type of statement is beyond me. This is *not* my attempt to get Barry as he constantly fantasizes. I am raising awareness that a potentially deeply disturbed individual is around kids, and we ougtha watch him more carefully. That's it.:-) OK, back to The Peak. Get a clue, people... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Rick and I have known each other since the late 1970's - If he had truly been offended, he would not have subscribed to my new forum, The Peak. I can appreciate your sensitivity, though you expressed no such qualms, when Turq made a reference to Maharishi butt-fucking babies. His exact words, a month ago. And you are repeating it right now, here, verbatim. That means your whole act is hypocritical, because, if it offends you, why would you repeat it? I guess context is everything - not that I would like this example, but I understand that it was posted purely as hypothesis - that Maharishi's name was associated with it, was sort of incidental. While I can still understand your reaction, to leave the group, and make your own one - what you are doing now is simply absurd and ridiculus, you come here, and try to pull everybody over to your group in attempt to isolate Turq, that's all too transparent. For that matter, count me out, I'm not interested to join a group with you partonizing. This, along with the knowledge that Turq now lives with, and often babysits, a two year old girl, and had never used language like that before, really got to *my* sensitivities, so much so that I started my own forum. Now here it gets a whole lot weirder from your side: Whily Turq made a purely theoretical hypothesis, you are actually insinuating this for him as a reality. That's a big difference. Not only that, you try to isolate him, and basically destroy this group, together with Buck, who is a lot more outspoken about your real goals. Apparently a lot of people agreed with my sensitivities, too. I guess we are all sensitive in different areas, eh? Anyway if you grow too sensitive for FFL, come on over the The Peak, and let's talk about it.:-) I thought your comment merited a response, though I won't be commenting further on here. Yeah, sure, because you are already gone, right? Give this as a message to Buck as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jamesalan735@... wrote : Maybe I'm being a bit too sensitive, but the reverse_archery moniker suggests to me a cheap shot at Rick Archer which isn't needed.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Subscribe to The Peak - An alternative to FFL
LOL - What were those names again? Just do me a favor, and keep those greasy mitts of yours away from the kids, OK? That is all I am asking of you. As for me renewing my clearance, no chance - I am retired, and it doesn't expire until 2021, anyway.:-) :-) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Thanks for the information. The history of your slandering me has been duly passed along to the right parties, as has information about the...uh...gender confusion that led you to pose as a woman here on FFL for many months. Good luck trying to get that security clearance renewed in the future. :-) You've GOT your own playground now. You can sit in your sandbox and rule everything, and say anything you want about how superior you are without fear of anyone contradicting you or calling you on your bullshit. (They wouldn't dare, because you'd throw them out for doing it.) So essentially you've got everything your tiny narcissistic personality disordered mind has ever wanted. My advice is to stay over on The_Leak and enjoy it, rather than *demonstrating* how petty and obsessed and self-destructive you are by continuing to post slander about me here on FFL. If you keep it up, you're so unintelligent and impulse-driven that sooner or later you're going to say something that I can actually have you arrested for back in the U.S. As things stand now, I wouldn't try flying through Amsterdam any time soon if I were you. Just sayin'... From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Subscribe to The Peak - An alternative to FFL LOL - Yes, please tell me *exactly* whom you have supposedly reported me to. I hold a US Government clearance (Confidential - one step below Top Secret), and have also been investigated by the FBI to get same. They didn't have a problem with me. Stop your bullshit, stay away from the kiddies, and Shut The Fuck Up, Barry. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For the record, Jim, the Netherlands police and Interpol have been notified again of your renewed stalking attempts and breaches of Dutch law. They have now notified authorities in the U.S. You are now on record as having made these slanderous remarks on *two different occasions*, the second time after having been warned that these slanderous statements are in breach of Dutch law. Congratulations -- all of this boosts you to a higher level of surveillance. You may now rest assured that pretty much *everything* you write to the Internet from now on will be scrutinized. Too bad you couldn't let your obsession with me go. First reading two entire books in an attempt to find stuff you could post to slander me. Second, stalking me all over the Internet to try to find photos of me that you could crop and add derogatory captions to. Third, making up all of these claims about me, based on me using a throwaway phrase about a dead spiritual teacher no one seems to care about. Maybe you should go back to The_Leak before your brains leak completely out. :-) Oh, and by the way, since you seem to have forgotten about it, when you *first* stalked off in a snit from Fairfield Life, in an attempt to threaten Rick into getting rid of me, you claimed you wouldn't post here again as long as I was still here: Rick, I am sorry, but a forum where anyone is allowed to suggest sexual violence AGAINST children, is not someplace I want to be. I am truly sorry things have degenerated to this point. I am local to the Yahoo corporation, and am considering a detailed notice to the Yahoo administrators, including screen names, of this current activity. Barry makes one excuse after another, about using this foul, sexually perverted, and unbalanced voice, and is clearly not well. This is no longer a healthy environment for anyone to participate in. I am all for differing opinions on here, but you have allowed one individual's mental illness to co-opt what could be a fun place to hang out, and I guess I am one of the casualties. See ya!! So in addition to being so obsessed with someone you don't like that you're willing to break the law and have law enforcement officials in three countries looking into your activities, you're willing to LIE as you stalk out the door and have it hit you in the ass. You sure are some great role model for enlightenment, Jimbo. Up after midnight, STILL obsessing about Barry, and STILL so desperate for attention that you're trying to get people from FFL to come visit your lame-o forum. Sure must be tough to be you, but if I were you I'd stick to talking about Newage bullshit and making false claims about your enlightenment on The_Leak and stay away from FFL. Every time you come here you get yourself into more trouble. From:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Loser with a capital L
LOL - The way you announced yourself, in the title of this email - Hey Barry, next you will be telling us that the Walter Mitty routine, the one where you report me to the authorities, was all a big joke. It was, but not in the way you think. Get real, Barry, you are such a punk. You have the manners of a two year old, and a mouth that could use some soap, and every time someone calls you on it, you have what, a youtube video, as rebuttal?? Typical. I'd be surprised if you could create a glass of water by yourself. So, keep up your childish routines, and I'll come over here and call you on it, once in a while. It'll keep things interesting for you, and perhaps prevent you from ever referring to sex with babies, again. Are we clear, loser? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Jim just can't help himself. Not only does he LOOK like Biff Tannen in the Back to the Future movies, he acts like him, too. And he wants people to believe he's enlightened. :-) The Many Insults of Biff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7wVEAgVPi8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7wVEAgVPi8 The Many Insults of Biff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7wVEAgVPi8 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7wVEAgVPi8 Preview by Yahoo From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Subscribe to The Peak - An alternative to FFL LOL - What were those names again? Just do me a favor, and keep those greasy mitts of yours away from the kids, OK? That is all I am asking of you. As for me renewing my clearance, no chance - I am retired, and it doesn't expire until 2021, anyway.:-) :-) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Thanks for the information. The history of your slandering me has been duly passed along to the right parties, as has information about the...uh...gender confusion that led you to pose as a woman here on FFL for many months. Good luck trying to get that security clearance renewed in the future. :-) You've GOT your own playground now. You can sit in your sandbox and rule everything, and say anything you want about how superior you are without fear of anyone contradicting you or calling you on your bullshit. (They wouldn't dare, because you'd throw them out for doing it.) So essentially you've got everything your tiny narcissistic personality disordered mind has ever wanted. My advice is to stay over on The_Leak and enjoy it, rather than *demonstrating* how petty and obsessed and self-destructive you are by continuing to post slander about me here on FFL. If you keep it up, you're so unintelligent and impulse-driven that sooner or later you're going to say something that I can actually have you arrested for back in the U.S. As things stand now, I wouldn't try flying through Amsterdam any time soon if I were you. Just sayin'... From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Subscribe to The Peak - An alternative to FFL LOL - Yes, please tell me *exactly* whom you have supposedly reported me to. I hold a US Government clearance (Confidential - one step below Top Secret), and have also been investigated by the FBI to get same. They didn't have a problem with me. Stop your bullshit, stay away from the kiddies, and Shut The Fuck Up, Barry. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For the record, Jim, the Netherlands police and Interpol have been notified again of your renewed stalking attempts and breaches of Dutch law. They have now notified authorities in the U.S. You are now on record as having made these slanderous remarks on *two different occasions*, the second time after having been warned that these slanderous statements are in breach of Dutch law. Congratulations -- all of this boosts you to a higher level of surveillance. You may now rest assured that pretty much *everything* you write to the Internet from now on will be scrutinized. Too bad you couldn't let your obsession with me go. First reading two entire books in an attempt to find stuff you could post to slander me. Second, stalking me all over the Internet to try to find photos of me that you could crop and add derogatory captions to. Third, making up all of these claims about me, based on me using a throwaway phrase about a dead spiritual teacher no one seems to care about. Maybe you should go back to The_Leak before your brains leak completely out. :-) Oh, and by the way, since you seem to have forgotten about it, when you *first* stalked off in a snit from Fairfield Life, in an attempt to threaten Rick into getting rid of me, you
[FairfieldLife] Re: Creator of The Peak admits he can't live without FFL to crap on
So, pretty much giving up on the, I am reporting you to the Dutch Police, Interpol, and My Mom routine, Barry? That sure blew up in your face, didn't it? LOL. What a putz. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Ironic, isn't it? The guy who threw a drama queen fit and tried to extort Rick into banning someone he didn't like (moi), and then when that failed threw another drama queen fit and stalked loudly off the forum to start his own supposedly moderated and insanity-free forum, claiming he'd never be back on FFL as long as it contained the person he didn't like, has lasted less than a month away. Like clockwork, he's back on FFL -- AGAIN -- with a new name -- AGAIN -- ragging on the same person he was obsessed with before -- AGAIN. And please bear in mind we're talking about a guy who claims he's ENLIGHTENED. For a short time, he actually seemed to be pulling off his sham Come to The_Peak...it's all peaceful and fluffy and light routine, limiting himself to inane Newage topics and self-promotion over there. But obviously the lack of someone to dump on begins to wear on him, so he feels the need to return to FFL to rip off some of its members and entice them to join his group and *tries* to start an argument, starting by calling *this* forum the home of over-the-top insanity. When a couple of people call him on this, he has one of his normal FFL meltdowns and starts hurling insults, *including* the slanderous kind that are going to get his retarded ass locked up if he's not careful. Now he announces his intention to keep coming back to FFL to do the same thing, whenever he feels the need to. He'll be all peaceful and lovey-dovey over on The_Leak, and use this place to take periodic gotta dump on somebody breaks. All while being ENLIGHTENED. The Internet really doesn't GET much lamer -- or funnier -- than this. From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 5:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Loser with a capital L LOL - The way you announced yourself, in the title of this email - Hey Barry, next you will be telling us that the Walter Mitty routine, the one where you report me to the authorities, was all a big joke. It was, but not in the way you think. Get real, Barry, you are such a punk. You have the manners of a two year old, and a mouth that could use some soap, and every time someone calls you on it, you have what, a youtube video, as rebuttal?? Typical. I'd be surprised if you could create a glass of water by yourself. So, keep up your childish routines, and I'll come over here and call you on it, once in a while. It'll keep things interesting for you, and perhaps prevent you from ever referring to sex with babies, again. Are we clear, loser? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Jim just can't help himself. Not only does he LOOK like Biff Tannen in the Back to the Future movies, he acts like him, too. And he wants people to believe he's enlightened. :-) The Many Insults of Biff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7wVEAgVPi8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7wVEAgVPi8 The Many Insults of Biff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7wVEAgVPi8 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7wVEAgVPi8 Preview by Yahoo From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Subscribe to The Peak - An alternative to FFL LOL - What were those names again? Just do me a favor, and keep those greasy mitts of yours away from the kids, OK? That is all I am asking of you. As for me renewing my clearance, no chance - I am retired, and it doesn't expire until 2021, anyway.:-) :-) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Thanks for the information. The history of your slandering me has been duly passed along to the right parties, as has information about the...uh...gender confusion that led you to pose as a woman here on FFL for many months. Good luck trying to get that security clearance renewed in the future. :-) You've GOT your own playground now. You can sit in your sandbox and rule everything, and say anything you want about how superior you are without fear of anyone contradicting you or calling you on your bullshit. (They wouldn't dare, because you'd throw them out for doing it.) So essentially you've got everything your tiny narcissistic personality disordered mind has ever wanted. My advice is to stay over on The_Leak and enjoy it, rather than *demonstrating* how petty and obsessed and self-destructive you are by continuing to post slander about me here on FFL. If you keep it up, you're so unintelligent and impulse-driven that
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sex With Babies
That would be plagiarism, dude, as your dad already wrote that book. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Sounds to me like the title of the tell all book Jim fears his former wives will write. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Subscribe to The Peak - An alternative to FFL
Hi, Jim Flanegin here, a former poster to FFL. I invite anyone who likes a good conversation, to my new Yahoo Group, The Peak. the_peak-subscr...@yahoogroups.com The Peak is an ongoing conversation about our journey as human beings, upwards towards the pinnacle, and fulfillment of our existence; Enlightenment. Any other topics, such as politics, economics, sexuality, UFO's, every day life, designing umbrellas, and even religion, are welcome, too. This site is moderated, with the focus being on entertaining, civil, and interesting discussions. Thank you for contributing! We have about 25 members and about 1,000 posts, so far, in just a month, with a wide range of topics discussed. If you have an open mind, or even a mostly closed one, with a ray of light within that wishes to grow brighter, I invite you to please check out this alternative to FFL. Thanks!
[FairfieldLife] Subscrtibe to The Peak - An alternative to FFL
Hi, Jim Flanegin here, a former poster to FFL. I invite anyone who likes a good conversation, without the over the top insanity, to my new Yahoo Group, The Peak. the_peak-subscr...@yahoogroups.com The Peak is an ongoing conversation about our journey as human beings, upwards towards the pinnacle, and fulfillment of our existence; Enlightenment. Any other topics, such as politics, economics, sexuality, UFO's, every day life, designing umbrellas, and even religion, are welcome, too. This site is moderated, with the focus being on entertaining, civil, and interesting discussions. Thank you for contributing! We have about 25 members and about 1,000 posts, so far, in just a month, with a wide range of topics discussed. If you have an open mind, or even a mostly closed one, with a ray of light within that wishes to grow brighter, I invite you to please check out this alternative to FFL. Thanks!
[FairfieldLife] The Peak - An alternative Yahoo Group to FFL - from fleetwood_macncheese
Hi, Jim Flanegin here, aka, fleetwood_macncheese. I have made some good friends here, and invite them, and anyone who likes a good conversation, without the over the top insanity, to my new Yahoo Group, The Peak. Very similar format to here - Moderated membership, and open content. I will moderate, with the goal being creating an entertaining and enjoyable environment, and good conversation. The Peak is an ongoing conversation about our journey as human beings, upwards towards the pinnacle, and fulfillment of our existence; Enlightenment. Any other topics, such as politics, economics, sexuality, UFO's, every day life, designing umbrellas, and even religion, are welcome, too. This site is moderated, with the focus being on entertaining, civil, and interesting discussions. Thank you for contributing! PS I am pretty busy today, so if I don't approve your membership immediately, hold tight. Thanks!
