[FairfieldLife] Mike Scozarri being sued
Regarding the dirt that one supporter of Mike Scozzari requested, I know that item is not central to Mike's defense. Mike told me he just wants everybody to be able to teach TM openly without fear and threats from the so called trademark holder. If someone gets a masters in education, pays for their education themselves, the university has no right to try and take the degree back 30 years later! But to the post from someone (below) who wrote that there would not be precedent, I think you are way off. Don't be naive - winning this will be winning it for everybody and we can end this for good. I'm guessing this was written by an attny, possibly with the TMO as he must realize it will set precedent. He is just trying to sidestep that issue, which for supporters that are TM teachers would be the most important issue. If they win, the TMO could serve the papers on other independent teachers using the TM trademark - and THEY WILL- precedent has power! What independent teacher would risk it if the TMO wins the case in Florida? The trademark holder in this case has a long history of misusing that trademark. Do we need to go over this again? A judge knows that threats against the trademark not acted on by the TMO do not amount to defending the trademark. If you know someone is misusing the trademark and has done so for years, threatening them with phone calls is not defending the trademark, it's harassment. The courts will have this information as it unravels. If TM is going to continue to be available I agree - it will be thanks to the independents. They just need to see the importance of this case in Florida and help with the defense. Who can honestly say that the TMO is headed in the right direction? Daniel Jeffers One friend who has a spiritual take wrote this The Bastards are abusing us, the legitimate teachers of M's knowledge, As they have for the Past 25 Years. This is nothing new. Their deliberate intention is to crush us and take away our livelihood our sacred mission to help people in need. They use intimidation, they use divide conquer. They brainwash our friends turn them against us. They attempt to isolate us from our friends. They are demons playing the destructive role that demons always play. Everyone on the planet has to battle against demons of various kinds, whether in the form of family members or bosses or government authorities, criminals, terrorists, etc. etc. Can you imagine the karma associated with actively attempting to stop people from becoming enlightened, and to stop people from having their suffering alleviated? From: a_non_moose_ff Subject: Re: Mike Scozarri being sued --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone sent me the following: This is serious. He needs a legal defense fund. Does he have a case to argue? He is using a trademarked name against the wishes of the trademark holder. And depending what agreements he signed at his TTC or beyond, he may be violating a contract. And he needs all the 'dirt' on the movement that we can discover. And people willing to be witnesses, etc. Why would dirt on the TMO be relevant in trial to determine if Mike is breaking trademark law? If the TMO broke other laws, they would need to be tried for that. Is the poster suggesting sexie-sadie files or ru dissatisfaction with fund raising will make a jury go oh dear, then their trademark is no good.? If he loses this, then there will be legal precedent Where is there precedent? Is an appeals court hearing the case already -- interpreting new unsettled issues in trademerk and contract law? and they will go after EVERYONE that is teaching And why does the TMO winning the scozarri case make them more likely to do that? And why does losing it make them less likely? and that will be the end of it. No more TM technique. Because the independents are the only one really teaching. How many are teaching in the US -- using TMO trademarks? Just a handful I would imagine. Its all ready pretty much over. Though teaching Beatles meditation or TransX Meditation by word of mouth should not be a problem. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
Message: 10 Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:35:48 - From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: Forwarded Message From: Mike Scozzari tm@ Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:26:47 -0800 To: Rick Archer rick@ Subject: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter? Hi Rick If possible, please post on Fairfield life. This is the most recentl letter i received from the TMO. According to one attorney, it's mostly saber rattling. Mike I hope Mike has some good representation. And a lot of money. JohnY As this situation draws in on Mike I think it is obvious that he is making progress with his attornies. I know he's been in S Florida for years and has financial supporters like any teacher in the field. You don't need to be wealthy to tackle the threats of the TMO. Money is not the issue here. Teachers like Mike feel like they have more to loose by complying with the requests we read in the TMO attorneys template letter. I think a loss for Mike would mean a loss for the teaching. The TMO would need to hire or recruit an attorney in Florida to do it's bidding. Attorneys from the other side would sue for their expenses too. I just received word here in California that the recert program is out of money (what, you thought the millionaire courses would bail them out!) and that teachers were told by administrators to keep all the money they collect for course fees. They must charge $2500 so it's still crazy. To my knowledge no recert teachers are getting any salaries. I think any intelligent judge would begin to see the goofy pattern and realize the TMO is not capable of taking care of it's employees, defending it's trademark or proving it's non- profits status, especially in light of the new Patriot Act re transfer of funds abroad. Daniel Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] TMO as a valid employer
TMO as a valid employer It will be interesting to see how things shape up in South Florida with the independent TM teacher there. He recently posted here that he is having trouble with advertising TM as an unrecertified teacher. The TMO is trying to block that activity. Goldstein with MUM legal had written a letter to a magazine there. I just found out Mike Scozzari has received the standard cease and desist letter from a law firm representing the TMO. Mike said his legal counsel is advising him not to respond to threats unless ordered by the courts. In addition to a legal team, he has a publicist here in San Francisco that wants to do a feature on independents who teach for less should this go to court. Back in 1993 here in California one independent TM teacher (a regular to fairfieldlife) told me he advised the movement they would only hurt themselves if they took legal action against him. The court and publicity could potentially uncover a long list of TMO errors and embarrassments. If they threatened trademark infringement in 1993 but didn't take legal action over all these years, any judge would question the validity of an unprotected trademark. The California teacher referred to here teaches TM as an independent today and has helped many people learn the technique charging much less than the national average, He is successful because he is a good teacher. Lets not get lost criticizing him for not sharing the income with national. They make that impossible for someone who wants to make a living at this. Teachers should be making the majority of the course fee with a small percentage going to the TMO for a franchise fee. That wold never happen as the movement would not have a stronghold on the purse and therefore a stronghold on the teacher. With the latest round of TMO stupidity and recertification to teach, and with promises for salaries not kept, what legitimate U.S. court would accept the TMO as a valid employer? I agree in part with an earlier post from spraig@ - The TMO does have the right to it's trademark protection. L'm not an attorney either but if the owner of the trademark fails to protect it and misuses it..that could be a very interesting question for the courts to look at. The TMO has demonstrated itself to be an unreliable employer incapable of fulfilling it's promises, withdrawing promised salaries with the latest recertification project. If teachers pay to train to teach and the trademark owner makes that impossible, who then has the right to use the trademark? The argument could be made in court that overwhelming evidence exists to sue the tm org for Fraudulent Deceptive Exploitative employment practices. I thought the letter to the magazine in south Florida was threatening. This TMO tactic is designed to frighten and why go after the magazine. The recertified teachers there are probably ticked off that someone is competing with them. Competition is good and everyone should teach! I received an e-mail which I think did a good job of summing up: The national course fee in the US set by the Transcendental Meditation Organization is 5 times what it was in 1993. Consequently the numbers are way down, people are not starting. Many experienced/certified teachers throughout the U.S. have had to settle the problem of runaway prices by privately offering TM instruction at very reasonable rates. Without compromising the original effective technique, TM can now be learned for less. It's the same technique. People everywhere, rich or poor, should have the opportunity to take the course and follow-up lessons. I wonder how many TM teachers there are who would like to teach if they knew they would not be threatened. This latest event could be the rallying point for all of them - and don't kid yourself, there are many! Of the 40K trained in the US, and so few teaching, there are still many who would love to teach and could make a difference. I know the attorneys in south Florida have been talking about a fund to help cover the costs if they go to trail. If all TM teachers could benefit, independence could be for all. Maybe they are already free of this and just don't realize it! Daniel Jeffers Sent to me from one recertified teacher from California..regarding TMO threat to the magazine in Florida: If anyone should be censored, it is the tm org. For trying to monopolize a universally- beneficial spiritual teaching, and for trying to intimidate prohibit qualified teachers from sharing this teaching with the public. Most publications are natural advocates of free speech. In our society we celebrate diversity of opinions teachings lifestyles. As one attorney stated: the tm org. has an illegitimate trademark---they've never defended it in the past 40 years--and it will certainly fail in court, whenever it comes to court they, the tm org.,
[FairfieldLife] Farrokh Requests Correction
I posted Farrok's letter. I'm sorry if the wrong impression was given. The letter was from a gov in the UK. Farrokh simply forwarded it to me. Daniel Jeffers Message: 6 Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 17:39:05 -0600 From: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:Re: Latest from Farrokh Did Farrokh write the passage quoted beneath yours? on 12/4/05 5:27 PM, at_man_and_brahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I respect Farrokh's stand. I'm a little curious, though, about some of his remarks here. First, he is apparently of the Brigante school, thinking that the tomfoolery in the Movement is purely the fault of its administrators and not of the founder. I have an undergraduate background in physics and math, from MIU during the Hagelin years, and I am a long way from being able to touch Hagelin's level of math. It's unclear which works of Hagelin's Farrokh is criticizing: his two TM monographs (Is Consciousness the Unified Field? and Restructuring Physics from Its Foundation in Light of Maharishi's Vedic Science) or his published high-energy physics papers. The former are not particularly mathematics-based, so a series of courses in math is not really the right foundation to critique them; a long series of graduate-level courses in high-energy physics, for which the math would be a prerequisite, would be, however. It doesn't sound as though Farrokh has taken such classes. Even if he had, the monographs do not attempt to construct a finite unified field theory, a central point in Farrokh's critique. Hagelin's published physics papers, similarly, do not attempt to construct a finite unified theory, nor do they discuss Vedic science. Hagelin's most celebrated mainstream work was in grand unified theory and superstrings. Maharishi has an undergrad background in physics, at least a working knowledge of Maharishi's Vedic Science, and the experience of discussing physics with Hagelin for decades. If Farrokh is correct that Maharishi is an intellectual superstar, wouldn't Maharishi himself be the best judge of whether Hagelin is using his theories correctly? What does Farrokh think of Schanbacher's work? Clements'? Most notably, given that Farrokh has constructed wonderfully elegant solutions to the problems of the dimensionality of space and the origin of the symmetries of the Standard Model, it's just a matter of time until he wins multiple Nobel prizes. That's pretty cool. You get on with your bad self, Farrokh! In this battle of crap vs crap, I think that Farrokh still has the upper hand, 'cause he makes sense in just about every other way. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tmforlife108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My own approach is somewhat different. I applaud those who take a stand against the crap and the nonsense we all have to endure within the movement but I have chosen to take a stand against a different type of crap and the nonsense. I realised some time ago that the supposed scientific analysis of the relationships between modern science and Vedic science was in fact pseudo-scientific rubbish. Rather than turn around and walk away in disgust I resolved to do something about it. So I put myself through a series of courses in mathematics so that I could acquire the skills required. My reasoning being that although the present analysis is total nonsense, if the insights of Vedic science as proposed by Maharishi are true then it ought to be possible to use those insights to guide one to solutions to the deepest problems of modern physics. I've discovered that this inspiration is correct. But in a very unexpected way, or rather perhaps in a way that should have been expected for anyone who has had any contact with Maharishi's knowledge. When cast in mathematical terms the insight that the ultimate reality is of transcendental nature suggests that there can be no finite Unified Field Theory. Also the insight that this transcendental reality can be experienced as if it were a sequence of experiences happening one after the other, as expressed in the Apurusheya Bhashya, has very interesting mathematical consequences. Taking this point of view, then some of the deepest problems of modern physics such as the dimensionality of space and the origin of the symmetries of the Standard Model have wonderfully elegant solutions. I recently presented a paper outlining these ideas at a conference in Europe, (where I took prize for best lecture), and this initial paper will be published next year. Though it's nice to get some appreciation from experts who are utterly disdainful of John Hagelin, much remains to be done. So it will be some time yet before a complete analysis will be possible. The interesting thing is that one can use use Maharishi's knowledge to solve these problems and hence give the knowledge true scientific credibility while at the same time demolishing just
[FairfieldLife] Latest from Farrokh
Farouk Hi, I'm a governor from the UK and via a roundabout route I got your open letter to Michael Dilbeck. I thought I'd send you a quote from another email which I got from Michael Moore. begins Friends, I just thought we should all pause for a moment today to remember the simple act of courage, defiance and dignity committed by Rosa Parks when she refused to move to the back of the bus because the law said she had the wrong skin color. The greatest moments in history, the ones that have truly mattered and have taken us to a better place, are made up of scores of these singular acts by ordinary, everyday people who could no longer tolerate the crap and the nonsense of those in charge. Today, whether it is a student who holds a sit-in to get the army recruiters off his campus, or the mother of a dead soldier who refuses to leave the front gate of the president's ranch, we continue to be saved by brave people who risk ridicule and rejection but end up turning huge tides of public opinion in the direction of righteousness. We owe them enormous debts of gratitude. It is not easy to stand up for what is right, especially when everyone else is afraid to leave the comfortable path of conformity. ... ends Highly relevant in the case of the TM movement don't you think? My own approach is somewhat different. I applaud those who take a stand against the crap and the nonsense we all have to endure within the movement but I have chosen to take a stand against a different type of crap and the nonsense. I realised some time ago that the supposed scientific analysis of the relationships between modern science and Vedic science was in fact pseudo-scientific rubbish. Rather than turn around and walk away in disgust I resolved to do something about it. So I put myself through a series of courses in mathematics so that I could acquire the skills required. My reasoning being that although the present analysis is total nonsense, if the insights of Vedic science as proposed by Maharishi are true then it ought to be possible to use those insights to guide one to solutions to the deepest problems of modern physics. I've discovered that this inspiration is correct. But in a very unexpected way, or rather perhaps in a way that should have been expected for anyone who has had any contact with Maharishi's knowledge. When cast in mathematical terms the insight that the ultimate reality is of transcendental nature suggests that there can be no finite Unified Field Theory. Also the insight that this transcendental reality can be experienced as if it were a sequence of experiences happening one after the other, as expressed in the Apurusheya Bhashya, has very interesting mathematical consequences. Taking this point of view, then some of the deepest problems of modern physics such as the dimensionality of space and the origin of the symmetries of the Standard Model have wonderfully elegant solutions. I recently presented a paper outlining these ideas at a conference in Europe, (where I took prize for best lecture), and this initial paper will be published next year. Though it's nice to get some appreciation from experts who are utterly disdainful of John Hagelin, much remains to be done. So it will be some time yet before a complete analysis will be possible. The interesting thing is that one can use use Maharishi's knowledge to solve these problems and hence give the knowledge true scientific credibility while at the same time demolishing just about everything John Hagelin has done. One wonders at the intellectual ineptitude that has allowed his ideas to gain credence within the movement. The more I study this field the more I find that his ideas are packed solid with errors of reasoning and elementary maths. I know of many intelligent people within the movement who have their doubts about John Hagelin's ideas and even more doubts about Tony Nader's ideas but fail to speak out for fear of punishment. However I do not think that he and people like him are in any way inherently bad people, it's just that the organisational structure of the movement discourages intelligent thought. It is the culture of fear within the movement that is inimical to genuine scientific enquiry and ultimately that culture of fear has its basis in Maharishi himself. I think that as the movement contracts and becomes ever more ludicrous more and more intelligent sincere people are going to find their voices. People are thinking to themselves I've kept my gob shut for fear of being chucked out of the movement, but if things carry on as they are then there isn't going to be a movement left to be chucked out of. Little things like your action have big consequences in such an environment. Ultimately, if we are going to create Sat Yuga, then the movement has to be reformed. Arrogance, spitefulness, pseudo-science and pantomime kings have to be removed. Absurd prices and absurd restrictions on teaching will have to go. We have been waiting for an
[FairfieldLife] Q A re Farrokh and his students
Bob, Here is what Farrokh said regarding my post and his total number of initiations Daniel Jeffers Good Morning Farrokh, It seems I might have misinterpreted the total number of initiations. Would I be more correct to say your projects have resulted in the instruction of over 40K people? Daniel Dear Daniel: Yes, it is indeed over 40K!! Glad to know that we have inadvertently tapped into a wellspring of support from all and sundry. Our plight with the TMO is the same for all independent TM teachers. With best wishes, Farrokh Ruffina Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Forum for the Anklesaria's
In many ways Farrokh has expressed what many of us have kept to ourselves. For me his honesty here is a breath of fresh air and I salute he and his wife for taking on the TMO. Farrokh has taught TM to over 40K people, more than most of us could ever achieve. He's tolerated much of the same stupidity from the TMO most have and still he wants to teach and do so at reasonable prices. I'm not surprized to read that the movement representatives have threatened him. I've read from many on this list that such fear tactics continue. I salute Farrokh because he has the desire to side-step the limos, rajas, bagpipes, etc and continue making TM available in it's simplicity. With the support of the judges in St. Louis and Farrokh's legal background, with the success of his project and determination to succeed where other's have not, I think Farokh might be just what the movement needs right now - a way out! How many intelligent movement leaders really believe deep down that the current policies have merit? In their quiet moments, are they so brainwashed that they don't hear another voice saying what if this is wrong? If Farrokh has something to say maybe it's time he be given a real chance to say it. He wants to teach anybody, he doesn't want to overcharge them and he believes teachers need to make a living. First teachers are taught to teach then they are told they can not, and if they do so outside the TMO guidelines, they will incur bad karma and possible 'legal action'. That is the latest nonsense being peddled by the movement. What reasonable person would subscribe to such nonsense? Daniel Jeffers Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Certified and recertified, where it's going
I'm sure there are TM teachers and meditators out there who would like to find a solution to the new movement and it's approach. I think TM is going to loose credibility if we don't try to keep it alive somehow. I remember a course in 1970, Maharishi responding to a large group of us, mostly college age. The subject was change the world - make it better. Maharishi appeared to have his hands full and I know some would have preferred a radical solution to the problems in the world. Everyone could agree on one thing - things must change. Someone asked, Why not just invent a new way? and Maharishi replied with a seemingly oversimplified solution: Don't change the traditions, just fix the old ones. Given the time and the theme of that course, fix the traditions did not mean become a raja and have people bow down to you. Did anyone ever suspect it would come to this? I'm not enlightened, I'm not an expert in vedic literature and my goals in writing are simple. Many of us came on board after learning TM. Some became teachers, moved to Fairfield, changed directions. Some are obviously bitter, want to attack what resembles the TMO logic, and for me, that's fine. Go ahead, get it out of your system. But I think that eventually FFL can provide us with a playing field for creating something concrete. Daniel Jeffers To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] New Coke vs Classic Coke, Old Movement, New Movement
Were marketers of Coca Cola aware from the start that they were introducing 2 different flavors? They introduced new Coke. It wasn't long before classic Coke returned with a vengeance. Clever marketing or unexpected reaction, Coke was the ultimate beneficiary. I wouldn't say the public benefited from their product, no. Classic Coke, or the TM formula that worked before, it's already out there. It works because it's simple. We don't need to invent another should we want to teach someone. Teachers everywhere already know how to teach and surprisingly, it works despite our own personal beliefs, moods and circumstances. Daniel Jeffers To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Finding a way for TM teachers to regroup
I would like to see a way for teachers to regroup, CERTIFIED or RECERTIFIED, I could care less. You are a teacher, teach. If you need to be part of a palace, a belief system, elitist club, enlightenment for sale, go ahead. There must be hundreds of teachers out there who have been operating out of fear. What are you afraid of? The TMO and their 'contracts, policies and procedures'. I don't think we need to be called 'independent'. Just teach and do what you know to be right. Do you think the TMO is going to try and stop us if enough people throughout the country start teaching again? I think it would be great! Talk to a good civil attorney. They will all tell you the same thing - don't give anything away without a court order. Several who have recertified have been writing to say it was a disaster. Turn that disappointment into resolve. Keep the teaching pure and give it to your students as it was given to you. They don't need to hear about the nonsense. And I would like to hear how readers think we can get the word out to teachers who might want to participate but don't necessarily read these posts. Start a web site for teachers, post ideas for advertising and connecting with your market. Start another site for the public so they can access reasonable prices and qualified teachers. A web site maintenance fee could be charged to teachers who want to stay listed. I don't think students would benefit from a price competition but I still believe teachers should charge a fair price. When the rates went to $1k for adults in Sept 93 everything went down: student instruction, follow-ups and public confidence. As teachers, you've always had to cover all your expenses anyway. If you feel guilty about your earnings, send a donation to someone who needs it. You might lose your dome privileges though. Or you might find that the students you teach appreciate what you are doing and become a good source of support for you. There are enough readers who agree that TM has already helped to improve their lives. Maharishi could have remained in India and we might never have learned. But it didn't roll out that way. I will always remember all the good that Maharishi brought. Daniel Jeffers To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Certified and recertified TM teachers
Ideas for CERTIFIED and RECERTIFIED teachers Over the past several weeks writers of FFL posts have debated the advantages and disadvantages of independent teaching. Perhaps certified and recertified teachers would benefit by considering what I believe is a basic truth: You already have the knowledge and training. You can use it. If you call yourself an independent, it's still the same truth. I've always liked Maharishi's _expression, Don't do what you know to be wrong. While I think the TMO has morphed into something totally unrecognizable, the grass roots teaching is still in tact. New policies and procedures can not take that away from you. I think it depends on how much importance we give to it, how we look at it. Daniel Jeffers To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Certified and recertified tM Teachers
In an earlier posting someone said, If the majority of teachers were to take steps now we might be able to keep the teaching alive. I will always appreciate all the good that Maharishi has given the world. I remember a time after TTC, and even well into the 90's, the basic message was clear. Now I fear that exposing others to what is happening, with the robes, high fees, failed business plans, palaces and nonsense, that some will become overshadowed and abandon the basic message that has already been shown to have value. A criminal court judge, one of my TM students, refuses to recommend TM to anyone now. He wrote Maharishi is a billionaire who seems to have lost his spiritual side to greed. I get his newsletter and after seeing his progress to all of this king stuff have quit telling people that I do TM as I can't explain what he is doing. A recent graduate of the recertification course circulated a letter recently discouraging future participation , It was hell. Teachers were being told daily that they must adjust to the changing operating principle explained by Maharishi in live broadcasts. Maharishi chastised the governors daily and consistently for the past level of non-cooperation. He was clear and forceful to say the least. I felt at times that he actually took pleasure in making the course participants uncomfortable. After the first five days 80% on the course participants that I spoke to wanted to leave. The long term full- timer national staff were the first to accept it. Daniel Jeffers To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
