Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
It was a lame film, pretty much pure propaganda, but what do you expect when
you make a movie about the second-most cowardly job in the military (drone
pilots being the first)?
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 6:11 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Anyone see Dinosaur TM'er Clint's latest film?
I watched American Sniper last night and was duly unimpressed. The worst film
Eastwood has ever made and that includes such bombs as Bronco Billy
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Well, there's one thing we know for sure. Michael Jackson has hours a day to pour into his anti-TM addiction. That, I find fascinating in itself. And it's always curious to see someone whose passions are only against something. Because, we know what it says. It says, *that* person doesn't have much going on in their real life, so this *lack* gets directed on finding whats wrong with everyone and everything else. It helps soothe the pain of disappointment, but at some point you have to wake up. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I already addressed those specifics in the very first post I made about the film. If you are too lazy to read it or have poor memory retention from too much TM over the years, maybe you should get a yagya done to hep you out w that. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Michael... something tells me you aren't qualified to be a film critique. So far all I've heard from you is regurgitation of *it's a poorly made film* without substance to back it up. Yeah, I agree Academy awards are highly political as to who wins but not as much to who is nominated. So far your criticism has been entirely focused on character issues you have with Kyle give me some detailed critique of the flaws in the film it's self. What makes it poorly made? I'll give you time to research what some other critiques have come up with. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Like most knee jerkers you make unwarranted and untrue assumptions. You fail to see that your rah rah go America attitude is the same kind of mind set that had you frothing at the mouth over all Marshy's juicy bullshit offerings at one time. I don't like the film because it is poorly made. It only appeals to those who walk into the theatre expecting to see a hero and see what they want to see. AS A MOVIE it is poorly made. The idea that its academy award nominations MAKE it a good film is laughable. The entire academy award process is politicized and movies get chosen often not on their merits but on who gave what to who. I also don't like the fact that Eastwood took a very poorly written book and changed aspects of the author's character to make him seem more appealing than he comes across in his own memoir to create a hero out of a jackass who lied and bragged to make himself look like a big shot. Read the book and its easy to see the guy was a self absorbed narcissist. The fact that he was a good shot and enjoyed killing does not make him a hero. As to the war itself, I am not on the left, and in no way do I dislike the military. I have friends who have served in many branches and admire military service WHEN that admiration is warranted. You fail to see that our government has created a mind set that it wants everyone to adhere to and that mind set is: If anyone dons a uniform, whatever we tell that person to do should be admired and respected. Meaning that the government wants to get support for whatever military action it wants from the public based on respecting the troops. And this means we are never to question what the military does. That is a police state mind set that relies on its civilian population being sheep, rather than people who think for themselves. I admire anyone if they act like they are somebody with decent behavior and common sense. That includes the military. If a man kills efficiently on the battlefield and goes and commits fraud in his post civilian life, give him a medal for his bravery and put him in jail for breaking the law. If he does well in combat and goes off duty and rapes one or more of his fellow soldiers, give him his medal and put him in prison for rape. Its real simple Mikey. If people act decently and behave themselves then I respect them, if they don't, I won't. Not that you will read it, but the posted article gives a good idea of the Academy Award reality. The Politics of the Oscars - Harvard Political Review http://harvardpolitics.com/books-arts/the-politics-of-the-oscars/ http://harvardpolitics.com/books-arts/the-politics-of-the-oscars/ The Politics of the Oscars - Harvard Political Review http://harvardpolitics.com/books-arts/the-politics-of-the-oscars/ Holly Flynn explains the highly politicized nature of the Oscars. View on harvardpolitics.com http://harvardpolitics.com/books-arts/the-politics-of-the-oscars/ Preview by Yahoo From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Like most knee jerkers you make unwarranted and untrue assumptions. You fail to see that your rah rah go America attitude is the same kind of mind set that had you frothing at the mouth over all Marshy's juicy bullshit offerings at one time. I don't like the film because it is poorly made. It only appeals to those who walk into the theatre expecting to see a hero and see what they want to see. AS A MOVIE it is poorly made. The idea that its academy award nominations MAKE it a good film is laughable. The entire academy award process is politicized and movies get chosen often not on their merits but on who gave what to who. I also don't like the fact that Eastwood took a very poorly written book and changed aspects of the author's character to make him seem more appealing than he comes across in his own memoir to create a hero out of a jackass who lied and bragged to make himself look like a big shot. Read the book and its easy to see the guy was a self absorbed narcissist. The fact that he was a good shot and enjoyed killing does not make him a hero. As to the war itself, I am not on the left, and in no way do I dislike the military. I have friends who have served in many branches and admire military service WHEN that admiration is warranted. You fail to see that our government has created a mind set that it wants everyone to adhere to and that mind set is: If anyone dons a uniform, whatever we tell that person to do should be admired and respected. Meaning that the government wants to get support for whatever military action it wants from the public based on respecting the troops. And this means we are never to question what the military does. That is a police state mind set that relies on its civilian population being sheep, rather than people who think for themselves. I admire anyone if they act like they are somebody with decent behavior and common sense. That includes the military. If a man kills efficiently on the battlefield and goes and commits fraud in his post civilian life, give him a medal for his bravery and put him in jail for breaking the law. If he does well in combat and goes off duty and rapes one or more of his fellow soldiers, give him his medal and put him in prison for rape. Its real simple Mikey. If people act decently and behave themselves then I respect them, if they don't, I won't. Not that you will read it, but the posted article gives a good idea of the Academy Award reality. The Politics of the Oscars - Harvard Political Review | | | | | | | | | | | The Politics of the Oscars - Harvard Political ReviewHolly Flynn explains the highly politicized nature of the Oscars. | | | | View on harvardpolitics.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre I'll stand by my original statement that I liked the film and that your hatred for it is political in nature and to be expected from the far left because it (the left) tends to loath the military,at least so say William Jefferson Clinton. So Michael, tell us about your life story. I bet it's fascinating! Maybe Michael Moore will make a movie about it. Millions around the world will come to see how you baked goodies and were so abused by cult leaders. I'd tell you to fuck yourself but I'm afraid that wouldn't qualify as *rape*. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre as I said before, trite, predictable and formulaic - and if you don't know that the academy awards is a purely political process itself then you know nothing about it at all. When a movie like this gets made in a time of war, few are willing to criticize it for fear of right wingers who think all critics should be themselves raped and killed (this has already happened) Only a few weeks into its release, the film has been flattened into a symbol to serve the interests of an ideology that, arguably, runs counter to the ethos of the film itself. How much, if at all, should Eastwood concern himself with fans who misunderstand and misuse his work? If he, intentionally or not, makes a hero out of Kyle – who, bare minimum, was a racist who took pleasure in dehumanising and killing brown people – is he responsible for validating racism, murder, and dehumanisation? Is he a propagandist if people use his work as propaganda? That question came to the fore last week on Twitter when several liberal journalists drew attention to Kyle’s less Oscar-worthy statements. “Chris Kyle boasted of looting the apartments of Iraqi families in Fallujah
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
I really could care less. He may very well have had character flaws, which I have no doubt,leftist would exaggerate and or exploit to further their *cause*. Do you know of any human that doesn't have character flaws? Moses stuttered, had a temper and was a murderer,Washington and Jefferson were slave owners. Jefferson even fathered children with his slaves. Lincoln *raped* the United States Constitution. William Jefferson Clinton was, and still is, a philanderer, pervert,rapist and molester. ,Martin Luther King was known for his philandering as well and he was a minister! Great people are recognized for the great things they do and the impact they have on others lives. Kyle was highly skilled in his profession and saved a lot of US military lives using those skills. If he felt compelled to harden his heart against potential targets, I'll cut him some slack. I'm just wondering if any of Kyles critiques have done anything useful in their lives as they sit in judgment on his. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre then educate yourself and read his book as I have From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre I would comment but I have no idea of the context in which it was said nor would I trust you to provide the correct context. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Kyle said in his book he didn't give a fuck about any of the Iraqis and that included men, women and children. Make a patriotic platitude out of that. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre BTW, the *brown people* comment reminds me of when Bevan tried to explain Obama Ben Laden's justification for the 9/11 attacks was because the US was *contaminating* Saudi soil with a US military presence in Saudi Arabia. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
I'll stand by my original statement that I liked the film and that your hatred for it is political in nature and to be expected from the far left because it (the left) tends to loath the military,at least so say William Jefferson Clinton. So Michael, tell us about your life story. I bet it's fascinating! Maybe Michael Moore will make a movie about it. Millions around the world will come to see how you baked goodies and were so abused by cult leaders. I'd tell you to fuck yourself but I'm afraid that wouldn't qualify as *rape*. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre as I said before, trite, predictable and formulaic - and if you don't know that the academy awards is a purely political process itself then you know nothing about it at all. When a movie like this gets made in a time of war, few are willing to criticize it for fear of right wingers who think all critics should be themselves raped and killed (this has already happened) Only a few weeks into its release, the film has been flattened into a symbol to serve the interests of an ideology that, arguably, runs counter to the ethos of the film itself. How much, if at all, should Eastwood concern himself with fans who misunderstand and misuse his work? If he, intentionally or not, makes a hero out of Kyle – who, bare minimum, was a racist who took pleasure in dehumanising and killing brown people – is he responsible for validating racism, murder, and dehumanisation? Is he a propagandist if people use his work as propaganda? That question came to the fore last week on Twitter when several liberal journalists drew attention to Kyle’s less Oscar-worthy statements. “Chris Kyle boasted of looting the apartments of Iraqi families in Fallujah,” wrote author and former Daily Beast writer Max Blumenthal. “Kill every male you see,” Rania Khalek quoted, calling Kyle an “American psycho”. Retaliation from the rightwing twittersphere was swift and violent, as Khalek documented in an exhaustive (and exhausting) post at Alternet. “Move your America hating ass to Iraq, let ISIS rape you then cut your cunt head off, fucking media whore muslim,” wrote a rather unassuming-looking mom named Donna. “Rania, maybe we to take you ass overthere and give it to ISIS … Dumb bitch,” offered a bearded man named Ronald, who enjoys either bass fishing or playing the bass (we may never know). “Waterboarding is far from torture,” explained an army pilot named Benjamin, all helpfulness. “I wouldn’t mind giving you two a demonstration.” The patriots go on, and on and on. They cannot believe what they are reading. They are rushing to the defence of not just Kyle, but their country, what their country means. They call for the rape or death of anyone ungrateful enough to criticise American hero Chris Kyle. Because Chris Kyle is good, and brown people are bad, and America is in danger, and Chris Kyle saved us. The attitude echoes what Miller articulated about Kyle in her Salon piece: “his steadfast imperviousness to any nuance, subtlety or ambiguity, and his lack of imagination and curiosity, seem particularly notable”. The real American Sniper was a hate-filled killer. Why are simplistic patriots treating him as a hero? | Lindy West | | | | | | | | | | | The real American Sniper was a hate-filled killer. Why a...Lindy West: Clint Eastwood’s film about Navy Seal Chris Kyle has hit a raw nerve in America, with right wingers calling for the rape or death of anyone ungrateful e... | | | | View on www.theguardian.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Actually, I've been addressing your original post, that it was a crummy film. Six academy ward nominations are a great honor. Whether you win or not. The nominations come from people far more knowledgeable about films than you or I or the geek who's critique you justified your post by. I could care less about the rest of your rant... any of it. It's quite obvious, your dislike for the film, is purely political in nature. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Horse shit. And what did it win? Best Sound Editing. Big deal. People don't like the movie because it is poorly made on a lot of levels. You just going with the cult mentality knee jerk mind set that any American
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Like a true TM'er you make excuses for those who act like asses. If you think he's such a hero and a big shot, why won't you read his book? I think its because you would rather hug up on him in your mind as a hero rather than facing the reality of what kind of man he was in his own self description. Kind of like the Christians who won't talk to someone who is skeptical about Christianity or read a book that might make them think about their religion because it might challenge their faith. Or like some TM'ers I knew who didn't want to know anything about Marshy screwing or the pundit riot because they don't want to deal with anything negative. That old TM influence just keeps you mind melting away doesn't it? From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre I really could care less. He may very well have had character flaws, which I have no doubt,leftist would exaggerate and or exploit to further their *cause*. Do you know of any human that doesn't have character flaws? Moses stuttered, had a temper and was a murderer,Washington and Jefferson were slave owners. Jefferson even fathered children with his slaves. Lincoln *raped* the United States Constitution. William Jefferson Clinton was, and still is, a philanderer, pervert,rapist and molester. ,Martin Luther King was known for his philandering as well and he was a minister! Great people are recognized for the great things they do and the impact they have on others lives. Kyle was highly skilled in his profession and saved a lot of US military lives using those skills. If he felt compelled to harden his heart against potential targets, I'll cut him some slack. I'm just wondering if any of Kyles critiques have done anything useful in their lives as they sit in judgment on his. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre then educate yourself and read his book as I have From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre I would comment but I have no idea of the context in which it was said nor would I trust you to provide the correct context. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Kyle said in his book he didn't give a fuck about any of the Iraqis and that included men, women and children. Make a patriotic platitude out of that. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre BTW, the *brown people* comment reminds me of when Bevan tried to explain Obama Ben Laden's justification for the 9/11 attacks was because the US was *contaminating* Saudi soil with a US military presence in Saudi Arabia. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife
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Actually, I found your criticisms trite and predictable from the beginning. The same accusations are generic and could be made towards just about any other film. Give me something I could sink my teeth into(Yeah, I still has all my teefies).. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre I already addressed those specifics in the very first post I made about the film. If you are too lazy to read it or have poor memory retention from too much TM over the years, maybe you should get a yagya done to hep you out w that. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Michael... something tells me you aren't qualified to be a film critique. So far all I've heard from you is regurgitation of *it's a poorly made film* without substance to back it up. Yeah, I agree Academy awards are highly political as to who wins but not as much to who is nominated. So far your criticism has been entirely focused on character issues you have with Kyle give me some detailed critique of the flaws in the film it's self. What makes it poorly made? I'll give you time to research what some other critiques have come up with. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Like most knee jerkers you make unwarranted and untrue assumptions. You fail to see that your rah rah go America attitude is the same kind of mind set that had you frothing at the mouth over all Marshy's juicy bullshit offerings at one time. I don't like the film because it is poorly made. It only appeals to those who walk into the theatre expecting to see a hero and see what they want to see. AS A MOVIE it is poorly made. The idea that its academy award nominations MAKE it a good film is laughable. The entire academy award process is politicized and movies get chosen often not on their merits but on who gave what to who. I also don't like the fact that Eastwood took a very poorly written book and changed aspects of the author's character to make him seem more appealing than he comes across in his own memoir to create a hero out of a jackass who lied and bragged to make himself look like a big shot. Read the book and its easy to see the guy was a self absorbed narcissist. The fact that he was a good shot and enjoyed killing does not make him a hero. As to the war itself, I am not on the left, and in no way do I dislike the military. I have friends who have served in many branches and admire military service WHEN that admiration is warranted. You fail to see that our government has created a mind set that it wants everyone to adhere to and that mind set is: If anyone dons a uniform, whatever we tell that person to do should be admired and respected. Meaning that the government wants to get support for whatever military action it wants from the public based on respecting the troops. And this means we are never to question what the military does. That is a police state mind set that relies on its civilian population being sheep, rather than people who think for themselves. I admire anyone if they act like they are somebody with decent behavior and common sense. That includes the military. If a man kills efficiently on the battlefield and goes and commits fraud in his post civilian life, give him a medal for his bravery and put him in jail for breaking the law. If he does well in combat and goes off duty and rapes one or more of his fellow soldiers, give him his medal and put him in prison for rape. Its real simple Mikey. If people act decently and behave themselves then I respect them, if they don't, I won't. Not that you will read it, but the posted article gives a good idea of the Academy Award reality. The Politics of the Oscars - Harvard Political Review | | | | | | | | | | | The Politics of the Oscars - Harvard Political ReviewHolly Flynn explains the highly politicized nature of the Oscars. | | | | View on harvardpolitics.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre I'll stand by my original statement that I liked the film and that your hatred for it is political in nature
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Michael... something tells me you aren't qualified to be a film critique. So far all I've heard from you is regurgitation of *it's a poorly made film* without substance to back it up. Yeah, I agree Academy awards are highly political as to who wins but not as much to who is nominated. So far your criticism has been entirely focused on character issues you have with Kyle give me some detailed critique of the flaws in the film it's self. What makes it poorly made? I'll give you time to research what some other critiques have come up with. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Like most knee jerkers you make unwarranted and untrue assumptions. You fail to see that your rah rah go America attitude is the same kind of mind set that had you frothing at the mouth over all Marshy's juicy bullshit offerings at one time. I don't like the film because it is poorly made. It only appeals to those who walk into the theatre expecting to see a hero and see what they want to see. AS A MOVIE it is poorly made. The idea that its academy award nominations MAKE it a good film is laughable. The entire academy award process is politicized and movies get chosen often not on their merits but on who gave what to who. I also don't like the fact that Eastwood took a very poorly written book and changed aspects of the author's character to make him seem more appealing than he comes across in his own memoir to create a hero out of a jackass who lied and bragged to make himself look like a big shot. Read the book and its easy to see the guy was a self absorbed narcissist. The fact that he was a good shot and enjoyed killing does not make him a hero. As to the war itself, I am not on the left, and in no way do I dislike the military. I have friends who have served in many branches and admire military service WHEN that admiration is warranted. You fail to see that our government has created a mind set that it wants everyone to adhere to and that mind set is: If anyone dons a uniform, whatever we tell that person to do should be admired and respected. Meaning that the government wants to get support for whatever military action it wants from the public based on respecting the troops. And this means we are never to question what the military does. That is a police state mind set that relies on its civilian population being sheep, rather than people who think for themselves. I admire anyone if they act like they are somebody with decent behavior and common sense. That includes the military. If a man kills efficiently on the battlefield and goes and commits fraud in his post civilian life, give him a medal for his bravery and put him in jail for breaking the law. If he does well in combat and goes off duty and rapes one or more of his fellow soldiers, give him his medal and put him in prison for rape. Its real simple Mikey. If people act decently and behave themselves then I respect them, if they don't, I won't. Not that you will read it, but the posted article gives a good idea of the Academy Award reality. The Politics of the Oscars - Harvard Political Review | | | | | | | | | | | The Politics of the Oscars - Harvard Political ReviewHolly Flynn explains the highly politicized nature of the Oscars. | | | | View on harvardpolitics.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre I'll stand by my original statement that I liked the film and that your hatred for it is political in nature and to be expected from the far left because it (the left) tends to loath the military,at least so say William Jefferson Clinton. So Michael, tell us about your life story. I bet it's fascinating! Maybe Michael Moore will make a movie about it. Millions around the world will come to see how you baked goodies and were so abused by cult leaders. I'd tell you to fuck yourself but I'm afraid that wouldn't qualify as *rape*. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre as I said before, trite, predictable and formulaic - and if you don't know that the academy awards is a purely political process itself then you know nothing about it at all. When a movie like this gets made in a time of war, few are willing to criticize it for fear of right wingers who think all critics should be themselves raped
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I already addressed those specifics in the very first post I made about the film. If you are too lazy to read it or have poor memory retention from too much TM over the years, maybe you should get a yagya done to hep you out w that. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Michael... something tells me you aren't qualified to be a film critique. So far all I've heard from you is regurgitation of *it's a poorly made film* without substance to back it up. Yeah, I agree Academy awards are highly political as to who wins but not as much to who is nominated. So far your criticism has been entirely focused on character issues you have with Kyle give me some detailed critique of the flaws in the film it's self. What makes it poorly made? I'll give you time to research what some other critiques have come up with. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Like most knee jerkers you make unwarranted and untrue assumptions. You fail to see that your rah rah go America attitude is the same kind of mind set that had you frothing at the mouth over all Marshy's juicy bullshit offerings at one time. I don't like the film because it is poorly made. It only appeals to those who walk into the theatre expecting to see a hero and see what they want to see. AS A MOVIE it is poorly made. The idea that its academy award nominations MAKE it a good film is laughable. The entire academy award process is politicized and movies get chosen often not on their merits but on who gave what to who. I also don't like the fact that Eastwood took a very poorly written book and changed aspects of the author's character to make him seem more appealing than he comes across in his own memoir to create a hero out of a jackass who lied and bragged to make himself look like a big shot. Read the book and its easy to see the guy was a self absorbed narcissist. The fact that he was a good shot and enjoyed killing does not make him a hero. As to the war itself, I am not on the left, and in no way do I dislike the military. I have friends who have served in many branches and admire military service WHEN that admiration is warranted. You fail to see that our government has created a mind set that it wants everyone to adhere to and that mind set is: If anyone dons a uniform, whatever we tell that person to do should be admired and respected. Meaning that the government wants to get support for whatever military action it wants from the public based on respecting the troops. And this means we are never to question what the military does. That is a police state mind set that relies on its civilian population being sheep, rather than people who think for themselves. I admire anyone if they act like they are somebody with decent behavior and common sense. That includes the military. If a man kills efficiently on the battlefield and goes and commits fraud in his post civilian life, give him a medal for his bravery and put him in jail for breaking the law. If he does well in combat and goes off duty and rapes one or more of his fellow soldiers, give him his medal and put him in prison for rape. Its real simple Mikey. If people act decently and behave themselves then I respect them, if they don't, I won't. Not that you will read it, but the posted article gives a good idea of the Academy Award reality. The Politics of the Oscars - Harvard Political Review | | | | | | | | | | | The Politics of the Oscars - Harvard Political ReviewHolly Flynn explains the highly politicized nature of the Oscars. | | | | View on harvardpolitics.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre I'll stand by my original statement that I liked the film and that your hatred for it is political in nature and to be expected from the far left because it (the left) tends to loath the military,at least so say William Jefferson Clinton. So Michael, tell us about your life story. I bet it's fascinating! Maybe Michael Moore will make a movie about it. Millions around the world will come to see how you baked goodies and were so abused by cult leaders. I'd tell you to fuck yourself but I'm afraid that wouldn't qualify as *rape*. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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I agree with most of what is in all three of these reviews - you can read 'em if u like - the rest of today is a busy one for me, am just about to go out of town and also a visit to my daughter. 'American Sniper' Is Almost Too Dumb to Criticize | | | | | | | | | | | 'American Sniper' Is Almost Too Dumb to CriticizeAlmost. | | | | View on www.rollingstone.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | The real American Sniper was a hate-filled killer. Why a...Lindy West: Clint Eastwood’s film about Navy Seal Chris Kyle has hit a raw nerve in America, with right wingers calling for the rape or death of anyone ungrateful e... | | | | View on www.theguardian.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | AMERICAN SNIPER Movie Review: Nobody Tries Less ...Another terrible, inept movie from an American cinema legend. | | | | View on birthmoviesdeath.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | The real American Sniper was a hate-filled killer. Why are simplistic patriots treating him as a hero? | Lindy West http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2014/12/09/american-sniper-movie-review-nobody-tries-less-than-clint From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Actually, I found your criticisms trite and predictable from the beginning. The same accusations are generic and could be made towards just about any other film. Give me something I could sink my teeth into(Yeah, I still has all my teefies).. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre I already addressed those specifics in the very first post I made about the film. If you are too lazy to read it or have poor memory retention from too much TM over the years, maybe you should get a yagya done to hep you out w that. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Michael... something tells me you aren't qualified to be a film critique. So far all I've heard from you is regurgitation of *it's a poorly made film* without substance to back it up. Yeah, I agree Academy awards are highly political as to who wins but not as much to who is nominated. So far your criticism has been entirely focused on character issues you have with Kyle give me some detailed critique of the flaws in the film it's self. What makes it poorly made? I'll give you time to research what some other critiques have come up with. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Like most knee jerkers you make unwarranted and untrue assumptions. You fail to see that your rah rah go America attitude is the same kind of mind set that had you frothing at the mouth over all Marshy's juicy bullshit offerings at one time. I don't like the film because it is poorly made. It only appeals to those who walk into the theatre expecting to see a hero and see what they want to see. AS A MOVIE it is poorly made. The idea that its academy award nominations MAKE it a good film is laughable. The entire academy award process is politicized and movies get chosen often not on their merits but on who gave what to who. I also don't like the fact that Eastwood took a very poorly written book and changed aspects of the author's character to make him seem more appealing than he comes across in his own memoir to create a hero out of a jackass who lied and bragged to make himself look like a big shot. Read the book and its easy to see the guy was a self absorbed narcissist. The fact that he was a good shot and enjoyed killing does not make him a hero. As to the war itself, I am not on the left, and in no way do I dislike the military. I have friends who have served in many branches and admire military service WHEN that admiration is warranted. You fail to see that our government has created a mind set that it wants everyone to adhere to and that mind set is: If anyone dons a uniform, whatever we tell that person to do should be admired and respected. Meaning that the government wants to get support for whatever military action it wants from the public based on respecting the troops. And this means we are never to question what the military does
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Ah yes, Matt Taibi and Devin Farci . Yes, I would expect that kind of review from them. Just as I said earlier, they've got an agenda to push. You know , there are excellent reviews made by Roger Ebert, Richard Roeper and many others that gave it a far better review without the political BS and far more objective. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre I agree with most of what is in all three of these reviews - you can read 'em if u like - the rest of today is a busy one for me, am just about to go out of town and also a visit to my daughter. 'American Sniper' Is Almost Too Dumb to Criticize | | | | | | | | | | | 'American Sniper' Is Almost Too Dumb to CriticizeAlmost. | | | | View on www.rollingstone.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | The real American Sniper was a hate-filled killer. Why a...Lindy West: Clint Eastwood’s film about Navy Seal Chris Kyle has hit a raw nerve in America, with right wingers calling for the rape or death of anyone ungrateful e... | | | | View on www.theguardian.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | AMERICAN SNIPER Movie Review: Nobody Tries Less ...Another terrible, inept movie from an American cinema legend. | | | | View on birthmoviesdeath.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | The real American Sniper was a hate-filled killer. Why are simplistic patriots treating him as a hero? | Lindy West http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2014/12/09/american-sniper-movie-review-nobody-tries-less-than-clint From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Actually, I found your criticisms trite and predictable from the beginning. The same accusations are generic and could be made towards just about any other film. Give me something I could sink my teeth into(Yeah, I still has all my teefies).. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre I already addressed those specifics in the very first post I made about the film. If you are too lazy to read it or have poor memory retention from too much TM over the years, maybe you should get a yagya done to hep you out w that. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Michael... something tells me you aren't qualified to be a film critique. So far all I've heard from you is regurgitation of *it's a poorly made film* without substance to back it up. Yeah, I agree Academy awards are highly political as to who wins but not as much to who is nominated. So far your criticism has been entirely focused on character issues you have with Kyle give me some detailed critique of the flaws in the film it's self. What makes it poorly made? I'll give you time to research what some other critiques have come up with. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Like most knee jerkers you make unwarranted and untrue assumptions. You fail to see that your rah rah go America attitude is the same kind of mind set that had you frothing at the mouth over all Marshy's juicy bullshit offerings at one time. I don't like the film because it is poorly made. It only appeals to those who walk into the theatre expecting to see a hero and see what they want to see. AS A MOVIE it is poorly made. The idea that its academy award nominations MAKE it a good film is laughable. The entire academy award process is politicized and movies get chosen often not on their merits but on who gave what to who. I also don't like the fact that Eastwood took a very poorly written book and changed aspects of the author's character to make him seem more appealing than he comes across in his own memoir to create a hero out of a jackass who lied and bragged to make himself look like a big shot. Read the book and its easy to see the guy was a self absorbed narcissist. The fact that he was a good shot and enjoyed killing does not make him a hero. As to the war itself
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Or maybe wanted to see a movie that wasn't about comic book heroes or talking pandas.;-) But for the record I like Eastwood's films so I'll probably watch this one too. On 05/21/2015 11:35 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring in the military every year! And this is being done by heroes??? I knew of one instance here in SC - the man, Army officer literally died a hero, jumping on the grenade to save his buddies scenario and man was he ever praised and lionized all over the place with the Governor herself, and many state dignitaries praising this guy to high heaven in any number of memorial services. I have known his widow since she was born, and I know that her husband before his death had been cheating on her. She found out and asked him to stop and start being a husband and a father to their 3 year old and 5 year old. He refused and she began divorce proceedings. Part of her angst was over the fact that while in Iraq, he was sending money that should have gone to her and their kids to pay the mortgage to his girlfriend here so she could buy a new truck. After he was killed his wife discovered that after his last leave when she told him to shape up or she would divorce him, not only did he stop sending her any money at all, he took her name off his life insurance policy and put his mother's name on it. She was a real honey too. The mother came up to the widow at the freaking memorial service and told her to her face in front of others that she (the mother) would see to it that she (the wife) would not collect a penny in his military benefits. Hero on the battlefield, ass in real life. Many of the scenes in the movie were made up, fictional including the butcher character and mustafa, the scene where Kyle's brother was complaining on the tarmac and especially the scenes where Kyle was shown getting tired and uncomfortable with what he was doing. That was complete bullshit. Read his book. He states without question that he loved killing and loved the war. He not only loved it, he said it was fun more than once in the book. Anyone who thinks that war and killing is fun is mentally unbalanced. The fact that he himself was killed by another Iraq war vet is one of the most telling things about his life and the movie barely mentions. As one reviewer put it, they made a movie about a killing machine with a heart of gold. Which is bs too. If you read anything about the real Kyle it is obvious that he was a self centered braggart
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90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring in the military every year! And this is being done by heroes??? I knew of one instance here in SC - the man, Army officer literally died a hero, jumping on the grenade to save his buddies scenario and man was he ever praised and lionized all over the place with the Governor herself, and many state dignitaries praising this guy to high heaven in any number of memorial services. I have known his widow since she was born, and I know that her husband before his death had been cheating on her. She found out and asked him to stop and start being a husband and a father to their 3 year old and 5 year old. He refused and she began divorce proceedings. Part of her angst was over the fact that while in Iraq, he was sending money that should have gone to her and their kids to pay the mortgage to his girlfriend here so she could buy a new truck. After he was killed his wife discovered that after his last leave when she told him to shape up or she would divorce him, not only did he stop sending her any money at all, he took her name off his life insurance policy and put his mother's name on it. She was a real honey too. The mother came up to the widow at the freaking memorial service and told her to her face in front of others that she (the mother) would see to it that she (the wife) would not collect a penny in his military benefits. Hero on the battlefield, ass in real life. Many of the scenes in the movie were made up, fictional including the butcher character and mustafa, the scene where Kyle's brother was complaining on the tarmac and especially the scenes where Kyle was shown getting tired and uncomfortable with what he was doing. That was complete bullshit. Read his book. He states without question that he loved killing and loved the war. He not only loved it, he said it was fun more than once in the book. Anyone who thinks that war and killing is fun is mentally unbalanced. The fact that he himself was killed by another Iraq war vet is one of the most telling things about his life and the movie barely mentions. As one reviewer put it, they made a movie about a killing machine with a heart of gold. Which is bs too. If you read anything about the real Kyle it is obvious that he was a self centered braggart and liar. The Jesse Ventura incident - bs. The story of himself and two other SEALS killing 30 looters in New Orleans from atop the Superdome - bs. And his tale of killing two carjackers and the cops turning him loose when they realized who he was - total bs. If he had to fabricate such stories to make himself look good, how accurate
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BTW, the *brown people* comment reminds me of when Bevan tried to explain Obama Ben Laden's justification for the 9/11 attacks was because the US was *contaminating* Saudi soil with a US military presence in Saudi Arabia. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring in the military every year! And this is being done by heroes??? I knew of one instance here in SC - the man, Army officer literally died a hero, jumping on the grenade to save his buddies scenario and man was he ever praised and lionized all over the place with the Governor herself, and many state dignitaries praising this guy to high heaven in any number of memorial services. I have known his widow since she was born, and I know that her husband before his death had been cheating on her. She found out and asked him to stop and start being a husband and a father to their 3 year old and 5 year old. He refused and she began divorce proceedings. Part of her angst was over the fact that while in Iraq, he was sending money that should have gone to her and their kids to pay the mortgage to his girlfriend
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Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring in the military every year! And this is being done by heroes??? I knew of one instance here in SC - the man, Army officer literally died a hero, jumping on the grenade to save his buddies scenario and man was he ever praised and lionized all over the place with the Governor herself, and many state dignitaries praising this guy to high heaven in any number of memorial services. I have known his widow since she was born, and I know that her husband before his death had been cheating on her. She found out and asked him to stop and start being a husband and a father to their 3 year old and 5 year old. He refused and she began divorce proceedings. Part of her angst was over the fact that while in Iraq, he was sending money that should have gone to her and their kids to pay the mortgage to his girlfriend here so she could buy a new truck. After he was killed his wife discovered that after his last leave when she told him to shape up or she would divorce him, not only did he stop sending her any money at all, he took her name off his life insurance policy and put his mother's name on it. She was a real honey too. The mother came up to the widow at the freaking memorial service and told her to her face in front of others that she (the mother) would see to it that she (the wife) would
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Kyle said in his book he didn't give a fuck about any of the Iraqis and that included men, women and children. Make a patriotic platitude out of that. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre BTW, the *brown people* comment reminds me of when Bevan tried to explain Obama Ben Laden's justification for the 9/11 attacks was because the US was *contaminating* Saudi soil with a US military presence in Saudi Arabia. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring in the military every year! And this is being done by heroes??? I knew of one instance here in SC - the man, Army officer literally died a hero, jumping on the grenade to save his buddies scenario and man was he ever praised and lionized all over the place with the Governor herself, and many state dignitaries praising this guy to high heaven in any number of memorial services. I have known
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Actually, I've been addressing your original post, that it was a crummy film. Six academy ward nominations are a great honor. Whether you win or not. The nominations come from people far more knowledgeable about films than you or I or the geek who's critique you justified your post by. I could care less about the rest of your rant... any of it. It's quite obvious, your dislike for the film, is purely political in nature. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Horse shit. And what did it win? Best Sound Editing. Big deal. People don't like the movie because it is poorly made on a lot of levels. You just going with the cult mentality knee jerk mind set that any American soldier serving in Iraq is automatically a hero. Why don't you address the rape and sexual assault issue I mentioned? You think that because someone serves well on the battlefield he is entitled to rape anyone of his fellow soldiers he likes? Or how about stick with the reality that Kyle said he loved war and his sniping job and that it was fun, but in the movie is portrayed has having remorse and so forth which he did not in reality. Eastwood is way past his prime and will do us all a great favor if this is his last film. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal
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Horse shit. And what did it win? Best Sound Editing. Big deal. People don't like the movie because it is poorly made on a lot of levels. You just going with the cult mentality knee jerk mind set that any American soldier serving in Iraq is automatically a hero. Why don't you address the rape and sexual assault issue I mentioned? You think that because someone serves well on the battlefield he is entitled to rape anyone of his fellow soldiers he likes? Or how about stick with the reality that Kyle said he loved war and his sniping job and that it was fun, but in the movie is portrayed has having remorse and so forth which he did not in reality. Eastwood is way past his prime and will do us all a great favor if this is his last film. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring in the military every year! And this is being done by heroes??? I knew of one instance here in SC - the man, Army officer literally died a hero, jumping on the grenade to save his buddies scenario and man was he ever praised and lionized all over the place with the Governor herself, and many
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I would comment but I have no idea of the context in which it was said nor would I trust you to provide the correct context. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Kyle said in his book he didn't give a fuck about any of the Iraqis and that included men, women and children. Make a patriotic platitude out of that. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre BTW, the *brown people* comment reminds me of when Bevan tried to explain Obama Ben Laden's justification for the 9/11 attacks was because the US was *contaminating* Saudi soil with a US military presence in Saudi Arabia. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring
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then educate yourself and read his book as I have From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre I would comment but I have no idea of the context in which it was said nor would I trust you to provide the correct context. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Kyle said in his book he didn't give a fuck about any of the Iraqis and that included men, women and children. Make a patriotic platitude out of that. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre BTW, the *brown people* comment reminds me of when Bevan tried to explain Obama Ben Laden's justification for the 9/11 attacks was because the US was *contaminating* Saudi soil with a US military presence in Saudi Arabia. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur
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as I said before, trite, predictable and formulaic - and if you don't know that the academy awards is a purely political process itself then you know nothing about it at all. When a movie like this gets made in a time of war, few are willing to criticize it for fear of right wingers who think all critics should be themselves raped and killed (this has already happened) Only a few weeks into its release, the film has been flattened into a symbol to serve the interests of an ideology that, arguably, runs counter to the ethos of the film itself. How much, if at all, should Eastwood concern himself with fans who misunderstand and misuse his work? If he, intentionally or not, makes a hero out of Kyle – who, bare minimum, was a racist who took pleasure in dehumanising and killing brown people – is he responsible for validating racism, murder, and dehumanisation? Is he a propagandist if people use his work as propaganda? That question came to the fore last week on Twitter when several liberal journalists drew attention to Kyle’s less Oscar-worthy statements. “Chris Kyle boasted of looting the apartments of Iraqi families in Fallujah,” wrote author and former Daily Beast writer Max Blumenthal. “Kill every male you see,” Rania Khalek quoted, calling Kyle an “American psycho”. Retaliation from the rightwing twittersphere was swift and violent, as Khalek documented in an exhaustive (and exhausting) post at Alternet. “Move your America hating ass to Iraq, let ISIS rape you then cut your cunt head off, fucking media whore muslim,” wrote a rather unassuming-looking mom named Donna. “Rania, maybe we to take you ass overthere and give it to ISIS … Dumb bitch,” offered a bearded man named Ronald, who enjoys either bass fishing or playing the bass (we may never know). “Waterboarding is far from torture,” explained an army pilot named Benjamin, all helpfulness. “I wouldn’t mind giving you two a demonstration.” The patriots go on, and on and on. They cannot believe what they are reading. They are rushing to the defence of not just Kyle, but their country, what their country means. They call for the rape or death of anyone ungrateful enough to criticise American hero Chris Kyle. Because Chris Kyle is good, and brown people are bad, and America is in danger, and Chris Kyle saved us. The attitude echoes what Miller articulated about Kyle in her Salon piece: “his steadfast imperviousness to any nuance, subtlety or ambiguity, and his lack of imagination and curiosity, seem particularly notable”. The real American Sniper was a hate-filled killer. Why are simplistic patriots treating him as a hero? | Lindy West | | | | | | | | | | | The real American Sniper was a hate-filled killer. Why a...Lindy West: Clint Eastwood’s film about Navy Seal Chris Kyle has hit a raw nerve in America, with right wingers calling for the rape or death of anyone ungrateful e... | | | | View on www.theguardian.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Actually, I've been addressing your original post, that it was a crummy film. Six academy ward nominations are a great honor. Whether you win or not. The nominations come from people far more knowledgeable about films than you or I or the geek who's critique you justified your post by. I could care less about the rest of your rant... any of it. It's quite obvious, your dislike for the film, is purely political in nature. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Horse shit. And what did it win? Best Sound Editing. Big deal. People don't like the movie because it is poorly made on a lot of levels. You just going with the cult mentality knee jerk mind set that any American soldier serving in Iraq is automatically a hero. Why don't you address the rape and sexual assault issue I mentioned? You think that because someone serves well on the battlefield he is entitled to rape anyone of his fellow soldiers he likes? Or how about stick with the reality that Kyle said he loved war and his sniping job and that it was fun, but in the movie is portrayed has having remorse and so forth which he did not in reality. Eastwood is way past his prime and will do us all a great favor if this is his last film. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six
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if you do choose to read his book, be warned it is much much crappier than the movie - here is a partial review off Amazon: Even if it was possible to overlook Kyle's exaggerations, embellishments, and bold-faced untruths, even if it was possible to ignore his overblown ego, immaturity, ignorance, and biases, the fact that the book is so poorly written provides a significant obstacle to its enjoyment even as a work of fiction. It is, hands-down, THE WORST book I have ever read and I cannot begin to fathom how low our standards have sunk when I see the number of stellar reviews this barely literate piece of crap has earned. I cannot begin to consider what it says about America and it's people. I feel dirty and very, very ashamed. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre I would comment but I have no idea of the context in which it was said nor would I trust you to provide the correct context. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Kyle said in his book he didn't give a fuck about any of the Iraqis and that included men, women and children. Make a patriotic platitude out of that. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre BTW, the *brown people* comment reminds me of when Bevan tried to explain Obama Ben Laden's justification for the 9/11 attacks was because the US was *contaminating* Saudi soil with a US military presence in Saudi Arabia. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point
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mentality revolve around him competing with other US snipers to see who would
rack up the highest body count. When one of his competitors gets close to
surpassing his record, he talks about how so many more insurgents suddenly
began to appear in front of his scope, heavily implying that he went out and
killed whoever he had to to keep up his record.
The truth is generally much more sordid than the Clint Eastwoods of the world
make it seem in their films and I guess all his years of TM have finally caught
up with him, cause his latest film is pitiful on all levels.
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Yeah, I watched it last night... again. It's a great film but it isn't
chic(sheik) or PC to admit it. Actually, it's fashionable among libs to
ridicule it. Got to get that Muslim vote! Of course American Muslims hate it
because they say it's anti-Muslim. Anti-Muslim because it shows the greatest
American sniper killing Terrorists( who happen to be Muslims) in order to
prevent the deaths of Marines taking Fallujah and Sadr City in order to
stabilize Iraq. I guess they wanted him to talk the terrorists out of their
attacks. Hmmm... all that effort and all those lives and limbs for nothing.
American Sniper got good reviews in Baghdad with cheers for each kill from many
in the audience. However, it had to be closed down the first week due to
terroristic threats.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Anyone see Dinosaur TM'er Clint's latest film?
I watched American Sniper last night and was duly unimpressed. The worst film
Eastwood has ever made and that includes such bombs as Bronco Billy
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Sure because of the cult US man in uniform good, brown people bad mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring in the military every year! And this is being done by heroes??? I knew of one instance here in SC - the man, Army officer literally died a hero, jumping on the grenade to save his buddies scenario and man was he ever praised and lionized all over the place with the Governor herself, and many state dignitaries praising this guy to high heaven in any number of memorial services. I have known his widow since she was born, and I know that her husband before his death had been cheating on her. She found out and asked him to stop and start being a husband and a father to their 3 year old and 5 year old. He refused and she began divorce proceedings. Part of her angst was over the fact that while in Iraq, he was sending money that should have gone to her and their kids to pay the mortgage to his girlfriend here so she could buy a new truck. After he was killed his wife discovered that after his last leave when she told him to shape up or she would divorce him, not only did he stop sending her any money at all, he took her name off his life insurance policy and put his mother's name on it. She was a real honey too. The mother came up to the widow at the freaking memorial service and told her to her face in front of others that she (the mother) would see to it that she (the wife) would not collect a penny in his military benefits. Hero on the battlefield, ass in real life. Many of the scenes in the movie were made up, fictional including the butcher character and mustafa, the scene where Kyle's brother was complaining on the tarmac and especially the scenes where Kyle was shown getting tired and uncomfortable with what he was doing. That was complete bullshit. Read his book. He states without question that he loved killing and loved the war. He not only loved it, he said it was fun more than once in the book. Anyone who thinks that war and killing is fun is mentally unbalanced. The fact that he himself was killed by another Iraq war vet is one of the most telling things about his life and the movie barely mentions. As one reviewer put it, they made a movie about a killing
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AMERICAN SNIPER Movie Review: Nobody Tries Less Than Clint | | | | | | | | | | | AMERICAN SNIPER Movie Review: Nobody Tries Less ...Another terrible, inept movie from an American cinema legend. | | | | View on birthmoviesdeath.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Or maybe wanted to see a movie that wasn't about comic book heroes or talking pandas. ;-) But for the record I like Eastwood's films so I'll probably watch this one too. On 05/21/2015 11:35 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring in the military every year! And this is being done by heroes??? I knew of one instance here in SC - the man, Army officer literally died a hero, jumping on the grenade to save his buddies scenario and man was he ever praised and lionized all over the place with the Governor herself, and many state dignitaries praising this guy to high heaven in any number of memorial services. I have known his widow since she was born, and I know that her husband before his death had been cheating on her. She found out and asked him to stop and start being a husband and a father to their 3 year old and 5 year old. He refused and she began divorce proceedings. Part of her angst was over the fact that while in Iraq, he was sending money that should have gone to her and their kids to pay the mortgage to his girlfriend here so she could buy a new truck. After he was killed his wife discovered that after his last leave when she told him to shape up or she would divorce him, not only did he stop sending her any money at all, he took her name off his life insurance policy and put his mother's name on it. She was a real honey too. The mother came up to the widow at the freaking memorial service and told her to her face in front of others that she (the mother) would see to it that she (the wife) would not collect a penny in his military benefits. Hero on the battlefield, ass in real life. Many of the scenes in the movie were made up, fictional including the butcher character and mustafa, the scene where Kyle's brother was complaining on the tarmac and especially the scenes where Kyle was shown getting tired and uncomfortable with what he was doing. That was complete bullshit. Read his book. He states without question that he
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Yeah, I watched it last night... again. It's a great film but it isn't
chic(sheik) or PC to admit it. Actually, it's fashionable among libs to
ridicule it. Got to get that Muslim vote! Of course American Muslims hate it
because they say it's anti-Muslim. Anti-Muslim because it shows the greatest
American sniper killing Terrorists( who happen to be Muslims) in order to
prevent the deaths of Marines taking Fallujah and Sadr City in order to
stabilize Iraq. I guess they wanted him to talk the terrorists out of their
attacks. Hmmm... all that effort and all those lives and limbs for nothing.
American Sniper got good reviews in Baghdad with cheers for each kill from many
in the audience. However, it had to be closed down the first week due to
terroristic threats.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Anyone see Dinosaur TM'er Clint's latest film?
I watched American Sniper last night and was duly unimpressed. The worst film
Eastwood has ever made and that includes such bombs as Bronco Billy
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[FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre
Anyone see Dinosaur TM'er Clint's latest film? I watched American Sniper last night and was duly unimpressed. The worst film Eastwood has ever made and that includes such bombs as Bronco Billy
